Rob and Kelvin tell us if the fact that Nikola Jokic dominates a Big Man-less era could wind up negatively impacting his legacy and explain why they wouldn’t be surprised if the New York Knicks don’t win another game in their series with the Boston Celtics. Plus, NBC Sports Boston host and author Michael Holley swings by to discuss his biggest problem with Boston’s 3-point-heavy approach to Game 1, the latest on Kristaps Porzingis’ health, the biggest threat to the Celtics in the Eastern Conference and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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of course.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Uh so we have a lot to do there.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
In Denver's win, obviously, the Joker didn't have the big shot.
It was Aaron Gordon. He did hit that big three though, right,
But I'm just saying, you know, like people are jumping
around whatever it was, the Joker wasn't involved in that.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
But but yeah, forty two points, he dom twenty you
have twenty two boards like its.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Stat line is ridiculous. I don't know what else to say.
And once again we talked about it, you're not gonna
when the MVP had a better year than any of
the MVP years he had, and we keep seeing this
guy do stuff that nobody's doing. It's been incredible.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
He's been spectacular, and he's gonna become, to me, really
difficult to assess when we start talking about his legacy,
like where do you put him, where do you rank him?
Where do you know he's got a little Tim Duncan
in him that esthetically now he passes better than Tim Duncans.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
At least you get those dimes that he drops, but.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Just morelo sometimes his game, you know, a little boring
little you know, three inches and below, so you won't
have that flash as some of the other big some
of the historical greats, the Jordan's the bird hidden threes
magic in the dimes, so he won't have that per se.
But I was thinking about this, Rob and I want
to pose this question to you. Will it matter that
(02:58):
in his era he dominated, in an era where night
and night out he was by far the biggest person
outside from Joel Embiid And maybe if you want to say.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
A sa bonus for the most part.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
And the reason I bring that up is sometimes there
have been a few players or a few things that
have happened in sports in general where you kind of go,
you put a little cave out.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
If you will.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So some people will go at baseball, they'll say, those
players were great in nineteen forty six in below, but
they weren't playing any black players, they weren't playing any
Latino players, they weren't play you know, so they were great,
I don't know, but no doubt. But the best of
the best didn't have a chance to actually play. And
so some folks might say that in reference to that.
(03:44):
If you go back to some people down Wilt, what's
the first thing they say, Man, Will was playing five
foot ten guys, six foot ten guys. Will was great,
but he only played against small guys. Only you know,
real defender he had was Bill Russell. To worry about
people will say that about him, so they kind of
use that against Will. And I say that because I
was really talking to Rob Tino was breaking down, like
(04:07):
I would have loved to have seen Yokis, who you know,
you sit next to me every day, who I thoroughly
appreciate and respect. He is incredibly He's the best player
in the league period. Flows make sure I get that clear.
Historically great, But I was like Man, I would have
loved to have seen what he would have been like
the like twenty years stretch where he would have had
to go up against a shack. David Rummins, David Robinson
(04:30):
and Tim Duncan were on the same team the kem
Bae Matumbo, Kenya, Martin Gasaw and bid them were on
the same team starting four and five Kendrick Perkins and
Kevin Garnett, the same four and five ze Bo and
Mark Gasol. That was the four and five starters. You
had the bit you saw this up close, Rasheed and
Ben Wallace, you saw that every night for all those years,
(04:52):
both of them night and night out, Hakeem Olajuwan shacked.
I mean that a lines of morning like that, I
do you wonder? And I still think it would have
been all stared. I still think it'd been heading on
his way to Hall of Fame. But I'm saying what
would have been like if he had to go up
against night in, night out fours and fives, the traditional
(05:12):
fours and fives of the you know, late eighties nineties
through the mid late twenty Tennish era.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, I disagree with you. I think his talent is
one that you could look at and say it doesn't
matter like who was playing. Here's what I'll say. And
you brought up the baseball which people talk about all
the time, even Babe Ruth and not all of players,
but even Babe Ruth still stands out. Even during that
era of not playing, of segregation, he was so much
(05:43):
better than everybody. Nobody diminishes Babe Ruth's ability.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know what I was saying.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I know, I'm but I'm but this is kind of
what you're talking about, like you might you could question
a lot of people during that era and whether or
not they were really major leaguers or but Babe Ruth,
you can't Will Chamberlain. The reason it wasn't just that
he played smaller people. He didn't win as much as
despite all the numbers for people. And what the joker
(06:11):
to me has is, yes, he's dominating, which is what
you should do if there's nobody there, if you if
you weren't putting up these kind of numbers and and
taking advantage of your situation against other people, then you
can look at him and say he didn't get enough.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You bring up Shack, people say, man Shack really.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Didn't do everything that he I don't think you could
look at the jokers say he left any meat on
the bone, like like he's putting he's doing stuff that
no one has ever done. If he was just doing
kind of standard you know what I stand a big
man's staff, you know what I mean, right, And then
you could go, well, you know he's okay, but you know,
(06:54):
like there was nobody really there, and the joker is
exact opposite. He's like, my god, every time you turn
around and talk about something that no one has ever done,
and I think that's what works for him.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And not only that, won multiple.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
MVPs, and he won a championship without another All Star Murray.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Okay, we can put that people, Jamal Murray. I get,
you're right, but but that's really that's right, fact fact, you.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Know what I mean, Like, that's a fact, And I
think that's why he's different to me.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Here is where my counterpoint, Rob, everything you said I get. However,
if he had to guard Shaq Hakame, Kevin Garnet, Dirk
Knwiszk I even mentioned Dirk and Tyson Chandler, if he
had to got guard Park of Paul Gassov.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Literally night in the night out.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I love when I used to hear that Kenny Smith
tells a great story. When he would say Kenny Kaim
would talk to him, say, Kenny, uh, I'm resting. He's like,
what are you wrestling for? He was like, because I
gotta play all these guys every night. He was like,
you know, you gotta go guard all these other people.
And I feel like if every night Yoki j also
not only gets some buckets and gets some pack I
gotta guard all these guys, I name, I gotta guar Rashid.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I gotta guard Chris Webber. I got a guard Pakaso.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I gotta guard to Kim Bay and David Robinson and
or Tim Duncan and Shaq and or a Drey. That's
a lot. I gotta guard marcasol or z Bo. And
I'm also saying that would have been amazing to see,
not that I get. I don't think you'd have been
all of a sudden terrible, no, for sure, but it
would have been interesting because you get a guy like
Chris Webber. Wow, Donovan Mitchell just punched on the entire
(08:27):
city of Indiana, the an entire Indianapolis team right there.
So anyway, I just thought that would to me. I
was thinking about what you going over, the game going
over all last night.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It was a big man out there, right for Okay,
you say Hartenstein, what I might jump? I might jump
on the table. I'm just saying, how tall is chet Holmgrin?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
You even losing weight? Way more than okay, all right,
matter of fact, the wait is more than him.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Here's my point, though, here's my point.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Last night I could Joker finished forty two points, twenty rebounds,
six assists, and in the process, he joined only Giannis
Shaq and Wilt as the only players in NBA history
to post a forty twenty five game okay, and in
this postseason, the Jokers currently second amongst all players all
(09:17):
players in points right, first and rebounds, assists and steal.
So he does so many things. And that's just my point.
It's his body of work. His body of work is
so gigantic that you can't like, you just can't go, well,
I'm gonna put an asterisk or I'm not gonna I'm
(09:38):
not going to register it because so and so is missing.
You could do that during this NBA era when it's
easier to score, like like we hear players from from
Europe talk about it all the time, like it's easy
to score in the NBA now with deep like right
and all that stuff. So should we say And as
people were talking about James Harden, can we make the case, well,
(10:02):
it's easy to score in this NBA now, Are we
gonna discount what he was able to do?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And what Steph and some of the other people because
of the lack of defense that we saw, at least
when I was covering the league in the eighties and
the ninety late eighties and the nineties and early two thousands.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I think another point that I use is where we
kind of have these moments where you kind of got it.
I enjoy having smart conversations about sports with people because
you brought up we were talking about earlier with Isaiah Thomas.
People as an Thomas went through Jordan, Larry Bird and
then Magic Johnson.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I use this example too.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Everybody's like, like, Steph is the best shooter I've ever seen,
greatest shoot of all time. But there are a lot
of people right now in the NBA, in my opinion,
who are only in the NBA because of the current
way the game is played. So they're allowed to, Hey,
we're gonna have you on because you get to shoot.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Duncan Robinson and he went to Michigan, So I hate
to be like that.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Duncan Robinson is not in the NBA fifteen years ago,
my Lion rob Gi, but he's allowed literally a liability
on defense. Everybody attacks him, but he's allowed to shoot
twelve threes a game. And I use that to say,
when people forget if I let Mark Price, Joe dumars
Dale Ellis, let's go Steph Curry, Daddy Dale Curry, Hey
you can shoot twelve threes tonight. Hey, Reggie Miller, if
(11:16):
you shot eighteen threes tonight, we wouldn't bat an eye.
So I use that as a sometimes where we have
to remember and people tell me, oh, this person is
a better shooter. He's a better shooter than so, and
so I said, man, Larry Bird only shot like two
point eight threes a game back in his day. If
I told Larry Bird he gets to shoot fifteen, and
we wouldn't even think twice, what the heck would he
have been?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And so you just said.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
A name that brought back to me one of the
best nicknames given to a player.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Just talked about Dale Ellis.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Peter Vessi from the New York Post with the NBA
guy for a long time and the trail Blazers had
all kinds of legal problems, guys getting arrested, all kinds
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, so he called him jail Ellis. That was the nickname.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Was he with the jail Blazers too, Yes, they were
called the jail Blazer?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You got it? Uh?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, I just I think the joker has something really
really special. And I don't care what ear he's playing
in or what the circumstances situation is. I think he is,
to me an, all time great. And I'm not saying
he is sitting here, he's crowding. I'm saying he's the
greatest player.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I just would have loved to have seen him night
and night out. Have to go up against fours and
fives that were legitimate fours and fives every probably sixty
five to seventy five percent of the nights, and I
got to go up against Ben Wallace or she Wallas,
I gotta go up against Kevin Garnet, Kendrick Perkins, I
got to go up against Andrew Biden and Power Gassoon.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I still think he would have done well. I just
really well.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I just think he is I think he is a score,
a rebound. I mean he's a great passer. I'm not
saying that that like he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I just don't see him dropping off because he would
have other pas.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Just what I love to is, you know, love just
seeing that because it's a different it's a different game
when I got to prepare for not only to be defended,
but also he can do oh no, no, no, no,
he can't. It just this is just me throwing it
out just to you, just kind of getting your thoughts.
I was watching the game thinking about that, like he's
incredibly but he I would love to have seen him back.
And also just actually, by the way, it doesn't have
(13:19):
to be a negative, like just to see his battles
going up against other bigs, you know, like when we
have historical battles quem Olajuwan versus David Robinson. Those were amazing,
right seeing uh some of these guys go Alonzo and
Shaq go at and and seeing Powell and Andrew Biden
go up against Perkins and Kevin Garnett, you know, far
the battle of the bigs in those series like that
is also what I'm saying to just to have seen
(13:40):
him have these battles, because the one we get geared
up for is what him and ad and then him
and Embid. Those are like the ones we get geared
up for. The matchups not only not aesthetically to see
him play, is it pleasing? I meaning he only gets
two matchups that really matter individually. You follow what I'm saying, Yes,
Like we love to see oh, Jordana go to Big
Clyde Jordan, Reggie Miller, Jordan's I just I just think he's.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Such as he's such a generational talent. Like I just
I've never seen anybody dominate and just then and and
and all. Even the analytics, like the numbers all match up.
They're not like their empty stats or you know what
I mean, or he's stat padding or whatever, like they
all match he.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Is and he's clutching. He's great.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I just would have loved to see him have some
nights where he goes up against his rival who is
Pile Gasol or his rival z Bo or his you
know these bigs or Mark Gasol. He just he doesn't
he doesn't have that and I would have loved to
have seen that.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
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Speaker 2 (16:07):
All right, Rob, what you got?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
You said, so Colin Cahurb been listening to the Hot
Couple and stilling taking what you say.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah, you know, I don't know if he heard me
because I was thinking it in my head before and
of course this show comes on before us.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, that's why I said. He maybe somebody hacked your
phone unto you.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But I was saying, like, I know, big win obviously
by the Knicks, and I don't want to rain on
everybody's parade, but oh boy, that might be the only
game they win. I mean, here's the thing that's scary.
The Celtics had to miss forty five threes for you
to win barely in overtime. I mean, like seriously, like
that's crazy to me, like to even think that this
(16:45):
is gonna happen, like like forty five threes?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was forty They still win, you know what I mean? Right,
they could have missed forty. They would have won in
a blowout. They would have won by double digits if
they missed forty instead of instead of forty five. And
that's all I'm saying is like, my god, what it
took for them to win? And I get they were
in a hole and all that and coming back, but
well they got to be better.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I actually don't like. I like the next fight. But
why is somebody's corn in my face right now? On
tn T They're ridiculous? So and somebody's told some corn
hanging out of there? Was it cream style or it
was regularly? I don't know who's you like?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Creamstyle? Rob g.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Mary, creamstyle cream corn? You didn't know what cream style?
You know what that means?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Dude? Only cream style corn is eat this dog like
the most elite kind. I haven't had it in years.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
There's one that a family member makes on Thanksgiving and
spicy and on it it's fire.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I'm done with cream style. It's like I like regular.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
You're supposed to get all your older You're supposed to
like it now because you're older.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Now you like that, you like your cream of wheed? No,
I don't. I had creamed in years, man, No only
I don't like the way the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I don't like that they're so Jalen Brunton heavy when
they have another guy that should be a top fifteen
to twenty player. Give a take in Carl Anthony Towns
in the league. And when Jalen Brunton is Jalen brunsoning,
you don't hear from Karl Anthony Towns anymore. And Carlton
Towns is supposed to be finally consistent. I'm giving you
twenty two to twenty five a night, ten twelve, fourteen rebounds.
(18:22):
You feel my presence. And again I'm not saying every
now you gonna have an off night here there. That's
a human. That's every guy in the NBA. But Carl
Anthony Towns, for as good as he is, he disappears.
And a part of that is because Jalen Brunton kind
of has that offense where it's that Luca Allen Iverson.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm the system, dribble.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Drible dribb, runn around, run aroundribb, running und around, dribble
and if it works, it's great. But the Celtics move
the ball, they move it around, they take the shots
they want, and by statistics numbers they showed I think
it was like eighty percent of their threes were caught
good threes. It still don't mean you gotta take them whatever,
you know, I'm with you on that, but yeah, they're
(18:59):
not gonna be to beat them just being Jalen Brunson reliant. Right,
I'm just said just it won't work because you're not
gonna miss that meanything.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
You look at one game and you say, oh, wow,
the Knicks win this series.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I just wait a minute. You the one took got
that mad at everybody for picking it the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, no, no, I just like I just couldn't believe like
nobody on that stack.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Because they feel like you were Colin and me and.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Steve when Colin, When Colin says it, I mean it
went viral. I just was too late, right, Rob g
I was too late for my take. Yeah, you put
it on everybody else. You should have just said.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It just like your hookah.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Donc Levator got shirts out the next day before, Rob
copyright and you got a shirt person too, don't you
Don't you got a printer person. Didn't I tell you
I need some uh to get our logo on some
stuff I got. I literally bought but naked, like the
whole suits like nothing on them, just straight track suits,
(19:53):
jumps whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Blank I know, just say you got blanks? What naked? Wow?
You didn't even have to say that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
That was very sad, That's all right. Rob mouthed like
did he just say, but what naked?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
This is like the buns thing all over again. What buns?
What buns pointing at you and buns?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
What Bunsen went on, She's talking about you eating Rob's buns.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No, I was God, they were called pancakes.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
There were no this was the dinner that was bread
there and bread can also be called no, no, no,
there's a difference because they're round.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Bread is flat. Wait, buns around bread is flat. Mary,
We need to drop buns around that. Bread is flat?
All right? Oh God.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
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Speaker 5 (20:59):
You can go ahead and get the those calls in
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. We'll get to
that in about ten minutes or so. Michael Holly our
guests now NBC Sports Boston. He's also an author. And
by the way, Rob, I've been annoying you for the
last two months with Celtic City. He was all up
and down Celtic City as well. Up in there, Michael,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Man? What's some Mike?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Oh, what what's up? Tellas why did I put the
connection together? It's trash talking Tuesday and Rob Parker wants
to talk to me. I know what.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Tell me?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Why didn't I think of it? Rob didn't tell me.
You're a great producer. Rob didn't tell me.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's why he's a great producer. He didn't tell you.
So you were right because otherwise you would have canceled,
you wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
There's still time, There's still.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Time, that's right. What's up, Mike? Everything good?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yes, everything is good. Yeah, Celtic City was fun. Thanks
for watching that. I'm good. And I have to say,
just off the top before I run out of time,
is shout out Rob Parker from putting together the Black
Sports Writers Hall of Fame UH in North Carolina. That
is so overdue, is so worthy, And if I had
(22:06):
to guess, I'm serious. I'll talk trust you later Parker.
But I will say if I if somebody said who
would put that together? Who would who would have discipline
and ambition and follow through to do it? I would
say Rob Parker, So shout out to you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You know what that means the world coming from you
Mike that we're all newspaper dogs and all that stuff,
and we did all that and it was overdue. And Mike,
probably the greatest thing of all is the three people
who got in. They couldn't we couldn't pick three better people,
am I right?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
That's what I told you. I told you that that
picture is that's that's an iconic picture right there, that trio.
That's the way you did that. That sets the foundation
for what is going to become.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And for people don't know, was Claire Smith, who was
the first female be writer. It was a Baseball Hall
of Fame, uh and the writers wing Bill Road.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was a columnist long time New York Times.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
And Mike Wilbonno was a long time columnist at the
Washington Post.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So those three went in as the first in excellent trio.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Excellent job, brother you already, thank you, thank you, no doubt.
So now let me rip the Celtics and now.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Terrible what was that?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
What Harp and Lucy with all the threes nineteen out
of twenty and a third quarter, that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's how you let a team get back in?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean just watching it, and this this is
gonna sound crazy. Just being in the building last night
watching it. I was smiling as I watched it because
I said, you know, you can't you can't make this up.
I can't believe I'm watching this. So that's that's the
that's the formula for a blowing a twenty point lead.
And it was even worse than that. So they missed
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forty five threes. Just say that. Just sit with that
for a second. They missed forty five threes, which meant
which means they took more than that. They took sixty. Yeah,
it's crazy three point shots and they were bricking. But
it was it's even worse because they had Karl Anthony
Towns in foul trouble, they had Josh Hart and foul trouble.
(24:08):
The Knicks, We're really Mitchell Robinson was in foul trouble.
The Knicks were really struggling just to hang on in
that game. And the only reason they were able to
hang on because the Celtics refused to go to the
paint and force them to defend and potentially get in
even deeper foul trouble. So it really was, it really
(24:29):
was a gross performance in any NBA game, but particularly
a playoff game. That you had control of.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
This is what I'm disappointed with, Michael.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
I'm disappointed because Jason Tatum, we know, is supposed to
be one of the top wherever you want to rate them, three, four, five, six,
seven players in the league. And if this were Kobe Bryant,
minind you now he's a champion. It's not like he's
a young one twenty two year old. If this is
MJ if this is Kobe, if this is Shack, if
this is Lebron, if you go on down the line,
there's a point when you say, I'll be dang about
(24:58):
the game plan. Give me the rock, and you put
your head down and you go to the hole and
you draw for or you put somebody on your back
and you fade away and get some buckets. And I
think I was disappointed to see two guys one the finals,
MVP and Jaylen Brown who was one for ten, and
then Jason tATu, who's supposed to be Some people say,
could he be the face of the league.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I say no for other reasons.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
But he's too good to relegate himself to simply a
three point shooter. And that just doesn't And that's why
I think people don't have him as highly regarded as
maybe they should for moments like that. That was his
moment to say they had a cute little comeback. I'm
icing his game out.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Well, you're not wrong. At last night, the problem Kelvin
is he did say give me the rock. But he
said give me the rock and he took three. That
was the problem is what he did with it. And
you're right in that it's disappointing because he usually doesn't
play like that. Like he's one of my favorite players
to watch. I'm not just saying that because I live
(25:55):
in Boston. You want my favorite players to watch, because
in these situations he usually he approaches it like a quarterback.
I mean usually makes the right decisions, he makes the
right reads. His playmaking has gone up, and I get
out the last three years, I think he's the top
five player, no question, in the league. But last night
(26:16):
it wasn't working and he was four to fifteen from
three point range and didn't adjust. And I'll tell you
part of the reason he didn't adjust. And I was
saying this to somebody when they were up by sixteen
at halftime, I said the person sitting next to me,
I said, they're not really playing well, but they're up
by sixteen. I said, the Knicks are dangerous for the Celtics.
(26:36):
Not because of how the Knicks are constructed. It's how
the Celtics view the Knicks. It's like somebody. Don't name him.
I don't want you to name anybody. I just want
you to imagine this person. No matter what you do
against them, you know it's going to be successful because
they're not on your level. You had too much success
against him in the past, and so you, right, you
(26:57):
start to become complacent. He said, that's fine, I could
do whatever. And so the Knicks have not really they
played one close game against the Celtics before last night, and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Even last night.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Let me say this, Mike, And you know, for the Knicks,
of course, you win game one. You know, you have
a little optimism of what's going on. While we did
what we needed to do and we're gonna go back
home and at least have we got a stole home
court or whatever it is. But for them to barely
win and win in overtime right when the other team
missed forty five threes just doesn't sit well, you know
(27:31):
what I mean, Like you could never duplicate that again.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I don't I'll give him credit, but Rob, I'll give
them credit for their character in the game because I
was watching Karl Anthony Towns, who was through like midway
third quarter. It was one of the worst games I've
seen him play. He was a mess, he was losing
the ball, he was frustrated, he was in foul trouble,
and I kept watching him. I was thinking, Hey, Towns
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is a whisper away from losing it, but he didn't.
They kept their composure, just kept they stayed in the game.
So I won't give credit to the Knicks for how
they're wired. I don't think they're better that they're not
good enough to beat the Celtics four times. But last night,
I'll give them credit for just hanging in there.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Hey, what's going on with up Worzegis.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's just been an injury riddled last couple of years,
in and out, in and out, in and out.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Where is he now?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Kelvin? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You know?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
He only played like forty some games this year?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
What like?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
And last year he missed twenty games intentionally because they
were trying to preserve him for the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Last year he.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Just hadn't been able to get it going, and even
though he played in New Orlando series, didn't play well.
He's a big guy.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Does he have a viral issue? What is it? What
are they calling?
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Who knows something?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Sickness? Left the game with the sickness. But this has
been going on all year. He missed a mystery. Nobody's
still figured it out. He missed like seven or eight
games in a row down the stretch in the regular
season with some illness that nobody ever really articulated what
it was. So I don't know what happens damn last night,
But illness or not, he has not been playing well
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for about a month.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I'm gonna call Fauci and see what it is. I'm
just trying to figure it out, you know, I know,
you know.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I interviewed him right there in COVID. Yeah it's my guy.
I just had to get that name. I call him
Big Tone.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Okay, yeah, hey man, you and everybody else you can't
put that on your resume.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But he was.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
He was. He was shitting down with everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Don't don't interrupt my let me moment, Okay.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
He was calling people up. Yeah, you got a podcast.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, you ain't lying. He was every That's why
you got to meet.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
He was tired.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
He was like, oh look, people are sick and stuff
going on. Wear masks, how holler back. That's pretty much
the extent of it.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
All right, we appreciate you taking some quick questions, real quick. Cleveland,
they're banged up, but they're up by twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah they ain't, Mitchell. Is that that is Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I mean, I know that banged up right now? Could
they if they're healthy, you'll get most of their guys back.
Give them Celtics a run for this in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I know we're going jumping ahead.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
So you already think the Celtics. You got the Celtics
over the Knicks. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we all Look,
it really comes down to They made that midseason trade
for DeAndre Hunter because they don't have anybody who matches
up with Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum. So if if
Hunter can bring it, Hunter is the key. Hunter is
the key. If he he is up to it defensively,
(30:29):
if he does the Tatum what Andrew Wiggins did reever
a few years ago in the finals, he does something
like that, then I think the Cavaliers have a shot,
but I just really think that's a tough matchup for them.
Too much Tatum, too much Brown. So I think that
would be a seven game series. The Celtics would have
to win it on the road, but I think the
Celtics get by the Cavaliers.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
All right, all right, thanks Mike, appreciate you man. Thanks
for those con words. Man, that means a lot. Like
I said, we we we're newspaper guys man, from the
from the old days.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So I shat that for real.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
You know what, Valley, this legit. I'll be back to
ripping you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So yeah, I know that. I know this is a
one time, dude, This is a one off. This is
a one off.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Well, we still got trash Talking Tuesday to get you
to appreciate you, Michael, Thank you man. Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
It's time for trash Talking Tuesday. Who you want to trash?
Who you want to get at? It's your chance to
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Speaker 4 (32:08):
Let's start with Trey in Texas. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. Who you Trash? And Trey? Hello
about the trash tray? In a minute, mall we punch
him up?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Trey? All right? Leo in New York City, you're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you Trashing?
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Leo?
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Well, first of all, for the first time on this show,
I heard a song from my side of the glove
to shout out to Mary Max for p Engineers earlier.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I beat that Marry very nice.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
We were jamming too, by the way, Leo, we was
in here getting fact thank you.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
I got a trash one of the part of Pumpings
and even one of our olds here who after game
two and the thirty nine point game was like, who dude,
you how want player in the traduce? He got to
be who are where is he now?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Kwi Me're a reaver?
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Now where he's a messiah?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Now Leo, I'm looking at him and.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Leo, do I sound like that?
Speaker 6 (33:19):
My god, that's how you're talking, Leo.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Thank you, Thank you, Leo. That's funny.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
What people?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Yeah, you really crack me up. Whenever somebody gets you,
you're like that all that sound? Yes, Rob, that is
how you sound.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Shannon in Delaware, you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Who are you trash?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
What's up? I am trashing Benjamin David Trimmings aka Ben Shimmons.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Oh man, listen what I thought.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
He was doing the Clippers? I thought, hey, you'll have
a career resurrection.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Oh man, the guy is zero points everywhere, just basically
doing cardio.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
I am trashing Bennon and her.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Career is over. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I love him, but I'm six and stand but I'm sorry,
Ben Man, you gotta go overseas now.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, I'm starting to one.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
It's unbelievable. It's the biggest bust. Is he the biggest bust?
I know what's my man? From UNLV the uh Anthony Bennett?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
He might be Anthony Bennett was a number one pick
right and he didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
But Ben Simmons, baby, because I had some upset some
That's what makes it bad is because we saw it
and now what's what what happened?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine? On Fox? Let's go Ken
in California. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio
who You're trash and Ken? That's coming for you.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
DJ Reddickin, Rob Polinko, polite, go okay, Oh wow, that's
not pissed up by it? Because the Lakers show is over?
And I don't know why you kept playing Levon and
Lucas and a half and never found out about your bench.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
How are we gonna find out about your bench if
you don't play him?
Speaker 8 (35:06):
What about connect?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
The white boy could shoot? Then you set him?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
He got blackball.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Robe his white balls. Yes, why would he be black balled.
I'm just saying this is what we're doing. Mary, you
want to get one more real quick?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Mitch New Jersey. You gotta make it quick. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you're trashing?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Mitch?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
How you guys doing.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
I'm trashing Mica Porter Junr.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Come on, you're getting paid well, you want the big contract.
Two points lucky still one.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
There because you have the co MVP I think.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
But Michael Pooley got pick up the game.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
There you go, good point.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
He's another person. He's better than all I do is
shoot threes. I know that's his role there, But dude,
you're actually better than that. You got more time, don't
settle for it. Yeah, that's my thing. Like, it's okay
to do something else. It's okay to see you have
a mismatch and say I'm gonna post somebody up or
I'm gonna do something different. I just yeah, I would
log in Jason Tatum. Dude, it's okay to go to
the hole. It's okay to pull somebody up. It's okay
to draw some files, to go to the free throw line.
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All right, Rob, your favorite thing? Could it still continue
to be surging? Something I know you don't miss. We're
gonna talk about that. I'm looking forward to hearing. I
got some facts and stats for you about something we
know you don't miss.
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of course.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Uh so we have a lot to do there.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
In Denver's win, obviously, the Joker didn't have the big shot.
It was Aaron Gordon. He did hit that big three though, right,
But I'm just saying, you know, like people are jumping
around whatever it was, the Joker wasn't involved in that.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
But but yeah, forty two points, he dom twenty you
have twenty two boards like its.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Stat line is ridiculous. I don't know what else to say.
And once again we talked about it, you're not gonna
when the MVP had a better year than any of
the MVP years he had, and we keep seeing this
guy do stuff that nobody's doing. It's been incredible.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
He's been spectacular, and he's gonna become, to me, really
difficult to assess when we start talking about his legacy,
like where do you put him, where do you rank him?
Where do you know he's got a little Tim Duncan
in him that esthetically now he passes better than Tim Duncans.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
At least you get those dimes that he drops, but.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Just morelo sometimes his game, you know, a little boring
little you know, three inches and below, so you won't
have that flash as some of the other big some
of the historical greats, the Jordan's the bird hidden threes
magic in the dimes, so he won't have that per se.
But I was thinking about this, Rob and I want
to pose this question to you. Will it matter that
(02:58):
in his era he dominated, in an era where night
and night out he was by far the biggest person
outside from Joel Embiid And maybe if you want to say.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
A sa bonus for the most part.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
And the reason I bring that up is sometimes there
have been a few players or a few things that
have happened in sports in general where you kind of go,
you put a little cave out.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
If you will.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So some people will go at baseball, they'll say, those
players were great in nineteen forty six in below, but
they weren't playing any black players, they weren't playing any
Latino players, they weren't play you know, so they were great,
I don't know, but no doubt. But the best of
the best didn't have a chance to actually play. And
so some folks might say that in reference to that.
(03:44):
If you go back to some people down Wilt, what's
the first thing they say, Man, Will was playing five
foot ten guys, six foot ten guys. Will was great,
but he only played against small guys. Only you know,
real defender he had was Bill Russell. To worry about
people will say that about him, so they kind of
use that against Will. And I say that because I
was really talking to Rob Tino was breaking down, like
(04:07):
I would have loved to have seen Yokis, who you know,
you sit next to me every day, who I thoroughly
appreciate and respect. He is incredibly He's the best player
in the league period. Flows make sure I get that clear.
Historically great, But I was like Man, I would have
loved to have seen what he would have been like
the like twenty years stretch where he would have had
to go up against a shack. David Rummins, David Robinson
(04:30):
and Tim Duncan were on the same team the kem
Bae Matumbo, Kenya, Martin Gasaw and bid them were on
the same team starting four and five Kendrick Perkins and
Kevin Garnett, the same four and five ze Bo and
Mark Gasol. That was the four and five starters. You
had the bit you saw this up close, Rasheed and
Ben Wallace, you saw that every night for all those years,
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both of them night and night out, Hakeem Olajuwan shacked.
I mean that a lines of morning like that, I
do you wonder? And I still think it would have
been all stared. I still think it'd been heading on
his way to Hall of Fame. But I'm saying what
would have been like if he had to go up
against night in, night out fours and fives, the traditional
(05:12):
fours and fives of the you know, late eighties nineties
through the mid late twenty Tennish era.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, I disagree with you. I think his talent is
one that you could look at and say it doesn't
matter like who was playing. Here's what I'll say. And
you brought up the baseball which people talk about all
the time, even Babe Ruth and not all of players,
but even Babe Ruth still stands out. Even during that
era of not playing, of segregation, he was so much
(05:43):
better than everybody. Nobody diminishes Babe Ruth's ability.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You know what I was saying.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I know, I'm but I'm but this is kind of
what you're talking about, like you might you could question
a lot of people during that era and whether or
not they were really major leaguers or but Babe Ruth,
you can't Will Chamberlain. The reason it wasn't just that
he played smaller people. He didn't win as much as
despite all the numbers for people. And what the joker
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to me has is, yes, he's dominating, which is what
you should do if there's nobody there, if you if
you weren't putting up these kind of numbers and and
taking advantage of your situation against other people, then you
can look at him and say he didn't get enough.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You bring up Shack, people say, man Shack really.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Didn't do everything that he I don't think you could
look at the jokers say he left any meat on
the bone, like like he's putting he's doing stuff that
no one has ever done. If he was just doing
kind of standard you know what I stand a big
man's staff, you know what I mean, right, And then
you could go, well, you know he's okay, but you know,
(06:54):
like there was nobody really there, and the joker is
exact opposite. He's like, my god, every time you turn
around and talk about something that no one has ever done,
and I think that's what works for him.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
And not only that, won multiple.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
MVPs, and he won a championship without another All Star Murray.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Okay, we can put that people, Jamal Murray. I get,
you're right, but but that's really that's right, fact fact, you.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Know what I mean, Like, that's a fact, And I
think that's why he's different to me.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Here is where my counterpoint, Rob, everything you said I get. However,
if he had to guard Shaq Hakame, Kevin Garnet, Dirk
Knwiszk I even mentioned Dirk and Tyson Chandler, if he
had to got guard Park of Paul Gassov.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Literally night in the night out.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I love when I used to hear that Kenny Smith
tells a great story. When he would say Kenny Kaim
would talk to him, say, Kenny, uh, I'm resting. He's like,
what are you wrestling for? He was like, because I
gotta play all these guys every night. He was like,
you know, you gotta go guard all these other people.
And I feel like if every night Yoki j also
not only gets some buckets and gets some pack I
gotta guard all these guys, I name, I gotta guar Rashid.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I gotta guard Chris Webber. I got a guard Pakaso.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I gotta guard to Kim Bay and David Robinson and
or Tim Duncan and Shaq and or a Drey. That's
a lot. I gotta guard marcasol or z Bo. And
I'm also saying that would have been amazing to see,
not that I get. I don't think you'd have been
all of a sudden terrible, no, for sure, but it
would have been interesting because you get a guy like
Chris Webber. Wow, Donovan Mitchell just punched on the entire
(08:27):
city of Indiana, the an entire Indianapolis team right there.
So anyway, I just thought that would to me. I
was thinking about what you going over, the game going
over all last night.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It was a big man out there, right for Okay,
you say Hartenstein, what I might jump? I might jump
on the table. I'm just saying, how tall is chet Holmgrin?
Speaker 5 (08:48):
You even losing weight? Way more than okay, all right,
matter of fact, the wait is more than him.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Here's my point, though, here's my point.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Last night I could Joker finished forty two points, twenty rebounds,
six assists, and in the process, he joined only Giannis
Shaq and Wilt as the only players in NBA history
to post a forty twenty five game okay, and in
this postseason, the Jokers currently second amongst all players all
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players in points right, first and rebounds, assists and steal.
So he does so many things. And that's just my point.
It's his body of work. His body of work is
so gigantic that you can't like, you just can't go, well,
I'm gonna put an asterisk or I'm not gonna I'm
(09:38):
not going to register it because so and so is missing.
You could do that during this NBA era when it's
easier to score, like like we hear players from from
Europe talk about it all the time, like it's easy
to score in the NBA now with deep like right
and all that stuff. So should we say And as
people were talking about James Harden, can we make the case, well,
(10:02):
it's easy to score in this NBA now, Are we
gonna discount what he was able to do?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
And what Steph and some of the other people because
of the lack of defense that we saw, at least
when I was covering the league in the eighties and
the ninety late eighties and the nineties and early two thousands.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I think another point that I use is where we
kind of have these moments where you kind of got it.
I enjoy having smart conversations about sports with people because
you brought up we were talking about earlier with Isaiah Thomas.
People as an Thomas went through Jordan, Larry Bird and
then Magic Johnson.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I use this example too.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Everybody's like, like, Steph is the best shooter I've ever seen,
greatest shoot of all time. But there are a lot
of people right now in the NBA, in my opinion,
who are only in the NBA because of the current
way the game is played. So they're allowed to, Hey,
we're gonna have you on because you get to shoot.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Duncan Robinson and he went to Michigan, So I hate
to be like that.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Duncan Robinson is not in the NBA fifteen years ago,
my Lion rob Gi, but he's allowed literally a liability
on defense. Everybody attacks him, but he's allowed to shoot
twelve threes a game. And I use that to say,
when people forget if I let Mark Price, Joe dumars
Dale Ellis, let's go Steph Curry, Daddy Dale Curry, Hey
you can shoot twelve threes tonight. Hey, Reggie Miller, if
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you shot eighteen threes tonight, we wouldn't bat an eye.
So I use that as a sometimes where we have
to remember and people tell me, oh, this person is
a better shooter. He's a better shooter than so, and
so I said, man, Larry Bird only shot like two
point eight threes a game back in his day. If
I told Larry Bird he gets to shoot fifteen, and
we wouldn't even think twice, what the heck would he
have been?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And so you just said.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
A name that brought back to me one of the
best nicknames given to a player.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Just talked about Dale Ellis.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Peter Vessi from the New York Post with the NBA
guy for a long time and the trail Blazers had
all kinds of legal problems, guys getting arrested, all kinds
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, so he called him jail Ellis. That was the nickname.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Was he with the jail Blazers too, Yes, they were
called the jail Blazer?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
You got it? Uh?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, I just I think the joker has something really
really special. And I don't care what ear he's playing
in or what the circumstances situation is. I think he is,
to me an, all time great. And I'm not saying
he is sitting here, he's crowding. I'm saying he's the
greatest player.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I just would have loved to have seen him night
and night out. Have to go up against fours and
fives that were legitimate fours and fives every probably sixty
five to seventy five percent of the nights, and I
got to go up against Ben Wallace or she Wallas,
I gotta go up against Kevin Garnet, Kendrick Perkins, I
got to go up against Andrew Biden and Power Gassoon.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I still think he would have done well. I just
really well.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I just think he is I think he is a score,
a rebound. I mean he's a great passer. I'm not
saying that that like he's gonna.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I just don't see him dropping off because he would
have other pas.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Just what I love to is, you know, love just
seeing that because it's a different it's a different game
when I got to prepare for not only to be defended,
but also he can do oh no, no, no, no,
he can't. It just this is just me throwing it
out just to you, just kind of getting your thoughts.
I was watching the game thinking about that, like he's
incredibly but he I would love to have seen him back.
And also just actually, by the way, it doesn't have
(13:19):
to be a negative, like just to see his battles
going up against other bigs, you know, like when we
have historical battles quem Olajuwan versus David Robinson. Those were amazing,
right seeing uh some of these guys go Alonzo and
Shaq go at and and seeing Powell and Andrew Biden
go up against Perkins and Kevin Garnett, you know, far
the battle of the bigs in those series like that
is also what I'm saying to just to have seen
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him have these battles, because the one we get geared
up for is what him and ad and then him
and Embid. Those are like the ones we get geared
up for. The matchups not only not aesthetically to see
him play, is it pleasing? I meaning he only gets
two matchups that really matter individually. You follow what I'm saying, Yes,
Like we love to see oh, Jordana go to Big
Clyde Jordan, Reggie Miller, Jordan's I just I just think he's.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Such as he's such a generational talent. Like I just
I've never seen anybody dominate and just then and and
and all. Even the analytics, like the numbers all match up.
They're not like their empty stats or you know what
I mean, or he's stat padding or whatever, like they
all match he.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Is and he's clutching. He's great.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
I just would have loved to see him have some
nights where he goes up against his rival who is
Pile Gasol or his rival z Bo or his you
know these bigs or Mark Gasol. He just he doesn't
he doesn't have that and I would have loved to
have seen that.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
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Speaker 2 (16:07):
All right, Rob, what you got?
Speaker 5 (16:09):
You said, so Colin Cahurb been listening to the Hot
Couple and stilling taking what you say.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Yeah, you know, I don't know if he heard me
because I was thinking it in my head before and
of course this show comes on before us.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, that's why I said. He maybe somebody hacked your
phone unto you.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But I was saying, like, I know, big win obviously
by the Knicks, and I don't want to rain on
everybody's parade, but oh boy, that might be the only
game they win. I mean, here's the thing that's scary.
The Celtics had to miss forty five threes for you
to win barely in overtime. I mean, like seriously, like
that's crazy to me, like to even think that this
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is gonna happen, like like forty five threes?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was forty They still win, you know what I mean? Right,
they could have missed forty. They would have won in
a blowout. They would have won by double digits if
they missed forty instead of instead of forty five. And
that's all I'm saying is like, my god, what it
took for them to win? And I get they were
in a hole and all that and coming back, but
well they got to be better.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I actually don't like. I like the next fight. But
why is somebody's corn in my face right now? On
tn T They're ridiculous? So and somebody's told some corn
hanging out of there? Was it cream style or it
was regularly? I don't know who's you like?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Creamstyle? Rob g.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Mary, creamstyle cream corn? You didn't know what cream style?
You know what that means?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Dude? Only cream style corn is eat this dog like
the most elite kind. I haven't had it in years.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
There's one that a family member makes on Thanksgiving and
spicy and on it it's fire.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I'm done with cream style. It's like I like regular.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
You're supposed to get all your older You're supposed to
like it now because you're older.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Now you like that, you like your cream of wheed? No,
I don't. I had creamed in years, man, No only
I don't like the way the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
I don't like that they're so Jalen Brunton heavy when
they have another guy that should be a top fifteen
to twenty player. Give a take in Carl Anthony Towns
in the league. And when Jalen Brunton is Jalen brunsoning,
you don't hear from Karl Anthony Towns anymore. And Carlton
Towns is supposed to be finally consistent. I'm giving you
twenty two to twenty five a night, ten twelve, fourteen rebounds.
(18:22):
You feel my presence. And again I'm not saying every
now you gonna have an off night here there. That's
a human. That's every guy in the NBA. But Carl
Anthony Towns, for as good as he is, he disappears.
And a part of that is because Jalen Brunton kind
of has that offense where it's that Luca Allen Iverson.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm the system, dribble.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Drible dribb, runn around, run aroundribb, running und around, dribble
and if it works, it's great. But the Celtics move
the ball, they move it around, they take the shots
they want, and by statistics numbers they showed I think
it was like eighty percent of their threes were caught
good threes. It still don't mean you gotta take them whatever,
you know, I'm with you on that, but yeah, they're
(18:59):
not gonna be to beat them just being Jalen Brunson reliant. Right,
I'm just said just it won't work because you're not
gonna miss that meanything.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
You look at one game and you say, oh, wow,
the Knicks win this series.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I just wait a minute. You the one took got
that mad at everybody for picking it the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, no, no, I just like I just couldn't believe like
nobody on that stack.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Because they feel like you were Colin and me and.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Steve when Colin, When Colin says it, I mean it
went viral. I just was too late, right, Rob g
I was too late for my take. Yeah, you put
it on everybody else. You should have just said.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It just like your hookah.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Donc Levator got shirts out the next day before, Rob
copyright and you got a shirt person too, don't you
Don't you got a printer person. Didn't I tell you
I need some uh to get our logo on some
stuff I got. I literally bought but naked, like the
whole suits like nothing on them, just straight track suits,
(19:53):
jumps whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Blank I know, just say you got blanks? What naked? Wow?
You didn't even have to say that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
That was very sad, That's all right. Rob mouthed like
did he just say, but what naked?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
This is like the buns thing all over again. What buns?
What buns pointing at you and buns?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
What Bunsen went on, She's talking about you eating Rob's buns.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
No, I was God, they were called pancakes.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
There were no this was the dinner that was bread
there and bread can also be called no, no, no,
there's a difference because they're round.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Bread is flat. Wait, buns around bread is flat. Mary,
We need to drop buns around that. Bread is flat?
All right? Oh God.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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Speaker 5 (20:59):
You can go ahead and get the those calls in
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. We'll get to
that in about ten minutes or so. Michael Holly our
guests now NBC Sports Boston. He's also an author. And
by the way, Rob, I've been annoying you for the
last two months with Celtic City. He was all up
and down Celtic City as well. Up in there, Michael,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Man? What's some Mike?
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Oh, what what's up? Tellas why did I put the
connection together? It's trash talking Tuesday and Rob Parker wants
to talk to me. I know what.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Tell me?
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Why didn't I think of it? Rob didn't tell me.
You're a great producer. Rob didn't tell me.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's why he's a great producer. He didn't tell you.
So you were right because otherwise you would have canceled,
you wouldn't have done it.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
There's still time, There's still.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Time, that's right. What's up, Mike? Everything good?
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yes, everything is good. Yeah, Celtic City was fun. Thanks
for watching that. I'm good. And I have to say,
just off the top before I run out of time,
is shout out Rob Parker from putting together the Black
Sports Writers Hall of Fame UH in North Carolina. That
is so overdue, is so worthy, And if I had
(22:06):
to guess, I'm serious. I'll talk trust you later Parker.
But I will say if I if somebody said who
would put that together? Who would who would have discipline
and ambition and follow through to do it? I would
say Rob Parker, So shout out to you.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You know what that means the world coming from you
Mike that we're all newspaper dogs and all that stuff,
and we did all that and it was overdue. And Mike,
probably the greatest thing of all is the three people
who got in. They couldn't we couldn't pick three better people,
am I right?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
That's what I told you. I told you that that
picture is that's that's an iconic picture right there, that trio.
That's the way you did that. That sets the foundation
for what is going to become.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
And for people don't know, was Claire Smith, who was
the first female be writer. It was a Baseball Hall
of Fame, uh and the writers wing Bill Road.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was a columnist long time New York Times.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
And Mike Wilbonno was a long time columnist at the
Washington Post.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So those three went in as the first in excellent trio.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Excellent job, brother you already, thank you, thank you, no doubt.
So now let me rip the Celtics and now.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Terrible what was that?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
What Harp and Lucy with all the threes nineteen out
of twenty and a third quarter, that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's how you let a team get back in?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, I mean just watching it, and this this is
gonna sound crazy. Just being in the building last night
watching it. I was smiling as I watched it because
I said, you know, you can't you can't make this up.
I can't believe I'm watching this. So that's that's the
that's the formula for a blowing a twenty point lead.
And it was even worse than that. So they missed
(23:46):
forty five threes. Just say that. Just sit with that
for a second. They missed forty five threes, which meant
which means they took more than that. They took sixty. Yeah,
it's crazy three point shots and they were bricking. But
it was it's even worse because they had Karl Anthony
Towns in foul trouble, they had Josh Hart and foul trouble.
(24:08):
The Knicks, We're really Mitchell Robinson was in foul trouble.
The Knicks were really struggling just to hang on in
that game. And the only reason they were able to
hang on because the Celtics refused to go to the
paint and force them to defend and potentially get in
even deeper foul trouble. So it really was, it really
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was a gross performance in any NBA game, but particularly
a playoff game. That you had control of.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
This is what I'm disappointed with, Michael.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
I'm disappointed because Jason Tatum, we know, is supposed to
be one of the top wherever you want to rate them, three, four, five, six,
seven players in the league. And if this were Kobe Bryant,
minind you now he's a champion. It's not like he's
a young one twenty two year old. If this is
MJ if this is Kobe, if this is Shack, if
this is Lebron, if you go on down the line,
there's a point when you say, I'll be dang about
(24:58):
the game plan. Give me the rock, and you put
your head down and you go to the hole and
you draw for or you put somebody on your back
and you fade away and get some buckets. And I
think I was disappointed to see two guys one the finals,
MVP and Jaylen Brown who was one for ten, and
then Jason tATu, who's supposed to be Some people say,
could he be the face of the league.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I say no for other reasons.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
But he's too good to relegate himself to simply a
three point shooter. And that just doesn't And that's why
I think people don't have him as highly regarded as
maybe they should for moments like that. That was his
moment to say they had a cute little comeback. I'm
icing his game out.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Well, you're not wrong. At last night, the problem Kelvin
is he did say give me the rock. But he
said give me the rock and he took three. That
was the problem is what he did with it. And
you're right in that it's disappointing because he usually doesn't
play like that. Like he's one of my favorite players
to watch. I'm not just saying that because I live
(25:55):
in Boston. You want my favorite players to watch, because
in these situations he usually he approaches it like a quarterback.
I mean usually makes the right decisions, he makes the
right reads. His playmaking has gone up, and I get
out the last three years, I think he's the top
five player, no question, in the league. But last night
(26:16):
it wasn't working and he was four to fifteen from
three point range and didn't adjust. And I'll tell you
part of the reason he didn't adjust. And I was
saying this to somebody when they were up by sixteen
at halftime, I said the person sitting next to me,
I said, they're not really playing well, but they're up
by sixteen. I said, the Knicks are dangerous for the Celtics.
(26:36):
Not because of how the Knicks are constructed. It's how
the Celtics view the Knicks. It's like somebody. Don't name him.
I don't want you to name anybody. I just want
you to imagine this person. No matter what you do
against them, you know it's going to be successful because
they're not on your level. You had too much success
against him in the past, and so you, right, you
(26:57):
start to become complacent. He said, that's fine, I could
do whatever. And so the Knicks have not really they
played one close game against the Celtics before last night, and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Even last night.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Let me say this, Mike, And you know, for the Knicks,
of course, you win game one. You know, you have
a little optimism of what's going on. While we did
what we needed to do and we're gonna go back
home and at least have we got a stole home
court or whatever it is. But for them to barely
win and win in overtime right when the other team
missed forty five threes just doesn't sit well, you know
(27:31):
what I mean, Like you could never duplicate that again.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I don't I'll give him credit, but Rob, I'll give
them credit for their character in the game because I
was watching Karl Anthony Towns, who was through like midway
third quarter. It was one of the worst games I've
seen him play. He was a mess, he was losing
the ball, he was frustrated, he was in foul trouble,
and I kept watching him. I was thinking, Hey, Towns
(27:55):
is a whisper away from losing it, but he didn't.
They kept their composure, just kept they stayed in the game.
So I won't give credit to the Knicks for how
they're wired. I don't think they're better that they're not
good enough to beat the Celtics four times. But last night,
I'll give them credit for just hanging in there.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Hey, what's going on with up Worzegis.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It's just been an injury riddled last couple of years,
in and out, in and out, in and out.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Where is he now?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Kelvin? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You know?
Speaker 6 (28:23):
He only played like forty some games this year?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
What like?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
And last year he missed twenty games intentionally because they
were trying to preserve him for the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Last year he.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Just hadn't been able to get it going, and even
though he played in New Orlando series, didn't play well.
He's a big guy.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Does he have a viral issue? What is it? What
are they calling?
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Who knows something?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Sickness? Left the game with the sickness. But this has
been going on all year. He missed a mystery. Nobody's
still figured it out. He missed like seven or eight
games in a row down the stretch in the regular
season with some illness that nobody ever really articulated what
it was. So I don't know what happens damn last night,
But illness or not, he has not been playing well
(29:08):
for about a month.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I'm gonna call Fauci and see what it is. I'm
just trying to figure it out, you know, I know,
you know.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I interviewed him right there in COVID. Yeah it's my guy.
I just had to get that name. I call him
Big Tone.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Okay, yeah, hey man, you and everybody else you can't
put that on your resume.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But he was.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
He was. He was shitting down with everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Don't don't interrupt my let me moment, Okay.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
He was calling people up. Yeah, you got a podcast.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, you ain't lying. He was every That's why
you got to meet.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
He was tired.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
He was like, oh look, people are sick and stuff
going on. Wear masks, how holler back. That's pretty much
the extent of it.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
All right, we appreciate you taking some quick questions, real quick. Cleveland,
they're banged up, but they're up by twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah they ain't, Mitchell. Is that that is Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I mean, I know that banged up right now? Could
they if they're healthy, you'll get most of their guys back.
Give them Celtics a run for this in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I know we're going jumping ahead.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
So you already think the Celtics. You got the Celtics
over the Knicks. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we all Look,
it really comes down to They made that midseason trade
for DeAndre Hunter because they don't have anybody who matches
up with Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum. So if if
Hunter can bring it, Hunter is the key. Hunter is
the key. If he he is up to it defensively,
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if he does the Tatum what Andrew Wiggins did reever
a few years ago in the finals, he does something
like that, then I think the Cavaliers have a shot,
but I just really think that's a tough matchup for them.
Too much Tatum, too much Brown. So I think that
would be a seven game series. The Celtics would have
to win it on the road, but I think the
Celtics get by the Cavaliers.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
All right, all right, thanks Mike, appreciate you man. Thanks
for those con words. Man, that means a lot. Like
I said, we we we're newspaper guys man, from the
from the old days.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
So I shat that for real.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
You know what, Valley, this legit. I'll be back to
ripping you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
So yeah, I know that. I know this is a
one time, dude, This is a one off. This is
a one off.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Well, we still got trash Talking Tuesday to get you
to appreciate you, Michael, Thank you man. Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
It's time for trash Talking Tuesday. Who you want to trash?
Who you want to get at? It's your chance to
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him up?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Trey? All right? Leo in New York City, you're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you Trashing?
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Leo?
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Well, first of all, for the first time on this show,
I heard a song from my side of the glove
to shout out to Mary Max for p Engineers earlier.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I beat that Marry very nice.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
We were jamming too, by the way, Leo, we was
in here getting fact thank you.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
I got a trash one of the part of Pumpings
and even one of our olds here who after game
two and the thirty nine point game was like, who dude,
you how want player in the traduce? He got to
be who are where is he now?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Kwi Me're a reaver?
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Now where he's a messiah?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Now Leo, I'm looking at him and.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Leo, do I sound like that?
Speaker 6 (33:19):
My god, that's how you're talking, Leo.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Thank you, Thank you, Leo. That's funny.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
What people?
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Yeah, you really crack me up. Whenever somebody gets you,
you're like that all that sound? Yes, Rob, that is
how you sound.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Shannon in Delaware, you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Who are you trash?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
What's up? I am trashing Benjamin David Trimmings aka Ben Shimmons.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Oh man, listen what I thought.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
He was doing the Clippers? I thought, hey, you'll have
a career resurrection.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Oh man, the guy is zero points everywhere, just basically
doing cardio.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
I am trashing Bennon and her.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Career is over. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I love him, but I'm six and stand but I'm sorry,
Ben Man, you gotta go overseas now.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, I'm starting to one.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
It's unbelievable. It's the biggest bust. Is he the biggest bust?
I know what's my man? From UNLV the uh Anthony Bennett?
Speaker 4 (34:17):
He might be Anthony Bennett was a number one pick
right and he didn't do anything.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
But Ben Simmons, baby, because I had some upset some
That's what makes it bad is because we saw it
and now what's what what happened?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine? On Fox? Let's go Ken
in California. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio
who You're trash and Ken? That's coming for you.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
DJ Reddickin, Rob Polinko, polite, go okay, Oh wow, that's
not pissed up by it? Because the Lakers show is over?
And I don't know why you kept playing Levon and
Lucas and a half and never found out about your bench.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
How are we gonna find out about your bench if
you don't play him?
Speaker 8 (35:06):
What about connect?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
The white boy could shoot? Then you set him?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
He got blackball.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Robe his white balls. Yes, why would he be black balled.
I'm just saying this is what we're doing. Mary, you
want to get one more real quick?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Mitch New Jersey. You gotta make it quick. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you're trashing?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Mitch?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
How you guys doing.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
I'm trashing Mica Porter Junr.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Come on, you're getting paid well, you want the big contract.
Two points lucky still one.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
There because you have the co MVP I think.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
But Michael Pooley got pick up the game.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
There you go, good point.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
He's another person. He's better than all I do is
shoot threes. I know that's his role there, But dude,
you're actually better than that. You got more time, don't
settle for it. Yeah, that's my thing. Like, it's okay
to do something else. It's okay to see you have
a mismatch and say I'm gonna post somebody up or
I'm gonna do something different. I just yeah, I would
log in Jason Tatum. Dude, it's okay to go to
the hole. It's okay to pull somebody up. It's okay
to draw some files, to go to the free throw line.
(36:07):
All right, Rob, your favorite thing? Could it still continue
to be surging? Something I know you don't miss. We're
gonna talk about that. I'm looking forward to hearing. I
got some facts and stats for you about something we
know you don't miss.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
We'll do that. Next, it's Theia Couple. Fox Sports Radio,
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