May 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Caitlin Clark or Shohei Ohtani is the more popular athlete in America, and provide up-to-the-minute analysis of Game 1 between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Minnesota Timberwolves. Plus, MLB analyst and Flippin’ Bats podcast host Ben Verlander swings by to discuss Aaron Judge’s incredible season thus far, reports of Juan Soto’s displeasure with the New York Mets, why the Los Angeles Dodgers can’t seem to avoid the injury bug, and much more!
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Speaker 4 (01:12):
On Last Call.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And our number three. Obviously, the basketball game is going on. Yep,
it's a good one right now.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Seventeen sixteen? Okay, see about four and a half minutes
to go in the first quarter. For people who aren't
near TV or working or something, you can't see it,
keep you yep updated and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'll let you start on this thing here because this
will be one of your low points career on the
Odd Couple.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, and just be careful.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I just want you, okay, I want you. You know
you want to have a long career here too. Okay,
So go ahead, Rob g set this up.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So Kelvin, Yeah, yeah, you while you were where you
were going, we had some conversation, right Roch.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
We already know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I saw the bad take on that, and I was
glad I didn't work that night.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That was obviously a night I wasn't working.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Okay, Well, just to give you a pull the curtain
back on what happened in the Odd Couple group chat,
Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Of course, you know I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
A reporter, but anything baseball related trying to I'm going
to make sure you act like a public relations office.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Wait, wait a minute, do I send you stories? It
could be about any sport, do I put in the
group chat?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, so I don't just put baseball no.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, but you hardcore pr with bad eight fifty seven
AM quiet. Rob Parker sent a screenshot that he took
the night before at eleven twenty to me, and it's
a screenshot of the Sunday Night baseball TV ratings. Sunday's
Mets Yankees game average two point five four million viewers,
(02:47):
the most watching in that baseball broadcast since August of
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
That's a big number. That's a long time great for
them twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
The only problem is also on Sunday, Caitlin Clark and
the Indiana Fever in their season opener against Angel Reese
and the Chicago Sky averaged two point seven million viewers,
peaked at three point one million on ABC, making it
the largest w NBA audience ever on an ESPN network.
(03:17):
That of course, now wait a minute, it was on ABC.
It was but ESPN and ABC partnership. It was on
over the air television, Rob Parker. No, no, get to
the point, Kelvin. You know television.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I do know.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Television is spectrum cable, the same as one of the
local stations over the air channels. No, you can't say, man,
I'll give you that. No, no, no, you can't be
and I'm just telling.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You that's true.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But I'm gonna give you all numbers because more people
have free TV didn't have.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But I'm gonna give you here's the difference. Go ahead,
just gonna make I will concede that more twenty years ago.
You either have cable or you don't. Like everybody's watching,
there's no such thing as like I have TV with
you have cable, No, you don't. Everybody doesn't have and
you can access everything now through online. So watching something
on two four seven based off it's not the same. Also,
(04:11):
your numbers are not the same as k NBC and LOSS.
I don't care how many people have cable. Your numbers
do not match up with the local TV stations. I'm
talking about the raw numbers of people watching. I'm convinced
to the surprise. Don't be surprised. Bring in some numbers,
because here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It ain't just saying cable is never even.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Given the NFL games. Gee, this is why this is
a great conversation for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Just ahead the fact that he has to go to
the semantics of it shows how well this is for
the w n b A that we have to go
to the justifications of the semantic point.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, this is part of the point.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So we had the conversation that prior to even this
is prior to those numbers. The impetus was the w
n b A commissioner. She came out and she said,
Caitlin Clark is the biggest American sports most popular American
athlete right now, And she later then clarified and said
under thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
But initially she said that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So Carrie Rose and I had the conversation way, I mean,
I know she's very popular. She top five, and so
we came to she's top five. You got Lebron, you
got Steph, you have Patrick Mahomes, and then I said
she's probably four, and Rob g brought up Aaron Rodgers.
So I was like, all right, Aaron Rodgers right there,
and but we had her in the five, and I said,
it's interesting that neither of us are any of us
(05:30):
rober either put a baseball player ahead of her in
popularity not obviously, finances not obviously, and the key part
being domestically because show Hey obviously in the continent of Asia,
is going crazy with the numbers, but domestically, and that
was our point. And another person called and brought up
one other one and I said, oh wow, I would
put this person above all too, maybe even brother Caitlin
(05:51):
with some own bios.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I said, oh yeah, that some own bios for sure,
because I just threw up in my mouth. You don't
think some o bios. No, I don't go ahead. Hold on,
I don't go ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I'm not gonna lie. You can't say that, can or can? No,
you can't. You can't. Someone's definitely big that. No, I'm
agreeing with you. You agree with me, Rob You can't
say that. You cannot tell me.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Simone Biles is not bigger than anyone you'd like to
name an MLB. It is not even a knock on
MLB as much as it's a compliment to to how big.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
That is the point. Okay, your point that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Kaitlin Clark when we were having a conversation and it
wasn't even But this.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Is typical, Okay, this is prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
She's in the Okay, but she's in the league that
averages nine thousand people, nine thousand, and yes, all the
numbers are great this this time around for her first
year because they were so lousy. They didn't go up
a thousand percent. They went up forty eight percent. Attendance
forty eight when she plays at home or when she goes.
(06:55):
She didn't sell out every game that she plays at
at home. Do they sell out? Absolutely, just still in
the league that has five and six thousand people.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
But I'm talking about her.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
This is what I'm trying to tell you is the
league was so bad that her influence. You think that
everybody in America's watching a WNBA or looking at Caitlin
Clark and the numbers are astronomical, they're not. There were
even some games in the NCAA tournament we talked about
(07:28):
where the women's game had very similar numbers. She got
she bested them, but they were very similar. So it's
not like it was off the charts or whatever. And
when you talk about show, hey, yes, internationally, but you
cannot discount him nationally. And what Joe Theisman, an NFL MVP,
just talked about is true.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
We're watching something we've never seen.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
There's no way Caitlyn Clark is bigger than shoe hail.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Tani internationally or nationally.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
There's no way that Caitlin Clark is bigger than Aaron Judge.
I don't care he that he hasn't won a championship.
There's no way. When you talk about the sales, the
ticket sales at Yankee Stadium, his jersey sales, the numbers.
When you talk about baseball, you always look at the
same thing. Well, a national game of one sixty two.
(08:23):
They played forty WNBA games and still forty four zero
compared to one sixty two. It's like when people judge
a Major League Baseball game against an NFL game, Well,
if baseball had sixteen or seventeen games, not one sixty two.
If I don't watch Tuesday night's Dodger game, I know
(08:44):
I can watch Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I know I can watch Thursday.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
If there were sixteen seventeen baseball games a year, you
wouldn't be able to get a Dodger ticket. The reason
that the NFL dropped the blackout rob g. When you
were growing up, there were blackouts, right, Why did they
out blackouts?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
They can't sell out the stadium. They can't. They used
to have an eighty five percent.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You grew up in Detroit, who used to have to
buy the ticket so that we can see the Lions games.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Aren't van? Am I right or wrong? Thing?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Used to have to buy the tickets because they couldn't
sell out the stadium. And my point is sometimes I
think people get caught up when you look at Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
They sell seventy three million tickets.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
This is not people, you gotta buy tickets go to
the ballpark. You got seventy three million during the summer
when there's a million things to go and do. When
you talk about the NFL, you have a captive audience.
It's wintertime. Where are we going?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Let me see?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Do I want to go to church or do I
want to stay home and watch football? What are my
options in the summer. I have so many different, so
many different options to go see and do in the summer,
and they still draw it unbelievable. We've we've seen these
record numbers April and May. It's not even the best
weather of the year, the best time to go to baseball.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I just don't think, are you done? Yeah, I'm not done.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But I'm just gonna tell you the idea that she's
bigger than Shoe hal Tony is laughable.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Everything just said was about attendance going to as I
just said that I don't disagree that people sell out
Dodger State and people sell out Yankee saying you're right,
Aaron Judge can walk around so much of America and
a lot of people wouldn't know who he is.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And that's just a fetcher cop. That's not He's six
foot eight Aaron Gordon. They would think that was Aaron Gordon.
Rob rob.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Nobody's questioning nobody. You're taking it personal on it as
an insult on base It's an insult period. Judge star
is a star. But you can substitute him, No Trout,
you can substitute him with Bryce Opera.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No you can't baseball, simply, no you can.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It is a truth when when you talk about white
Kitlyn Clark, everybody.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Knows who she is. If she's walking by, no.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
They don't, yes her minions, no, no, ro Literally the
last two to three years, everyone knows who she is.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Because of the controversy, you got grown men arguing about her.
Argument is not even about her. They would argue plenty
about her, and so they go past it. But you
got people arguing about her. You got people who never
used to watch watching I'm not questioning does baseball have
a fan base. That's not the argument. Does baseball have loyalists?
Does baseball enjoyable? Absolutely? The question simply was, right now
(11:44):
we're talking about the most popular athletes in America. I
don't think a single baseball player is larger than obviously
Lebron obviously, Steph you said obviously, Mahomes obviously.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Can it sound crazy?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You went to spring training and you saw the crowds
show hal tany did you not?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I just told you, Okay, but you're saying most of
them came from No, they did not.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Would you stop? You're gonna say they came from Japan?
Rob I literally did stories on it. A lot of them.
People came. Everybody came. They don't live here. No, they
flew in from Japan first.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And there were literally, like, I'm asking you, how many
passports did you check?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Come on, Calvin, I literally interview people. I mean, how
are you kidding me? How many did you interview? And
they all came from Japan?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
How did they not? How did they speak to you?
Don't want to talk to me? Okay? Did they have
an interpreter? Actually? Literally some people did what are you talking.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
About man you did. You're kidding yourself. How much everybody
was there? See this is the word.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Now you're making it personal because now you're saying as
if I wasn't there and talking to people.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No, I don't believe that everybody was from the percentage.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'm I'm not American.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I know a lot of people literally telling us all
these signs, I came from Japan?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
How many? How many?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
How many people? Did you see what the sign said?
I came from one hundred and forty people there? You
do realize there's not a lot of people there. It's
just instead of there being twenty, there were one hundred
and twenty rob spring training people there to get ball signed.
You acting like it's a thousand people, there was like
one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Two hundred, which normally it's twenty to thirty.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So the idea that show Hey is massive, Yes, especially internationally.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Nobody's nobody arguing that. No, you're trying to be little
him the same. I guess you walk because you're using
the term internationally. It's not just internationally.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He is a huge star in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But the conversation is pately, No, he's no but and
that's the count. Nobody's questioning, not talking about all You're
talking about it. Oh yeah, internationally because the Asian people
like him, so yeah, because you have a whole state.
He's a huge star. Is when the Dodgers go anywhere,
(13:52):
they sell out. They you're naming baseball fans. Nobody's questioning.
If I buy a ticket to Kendrick Lamar's concert tomorrow,
guess who else gonna you? There a bunch of Kendrick
Lamar fans. Rob Duh, duh.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You're literally telling me the people who are going to
a baseball stadium, why would they not know show hal
tany That's not what I'm saying. That's exactly what you said.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
If you say that they don't know you're going to
because they said, you see the game conversation than baseball,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's no, that's the point of popularity. People know Taylor Swift,
whether they go to a Taylor Swift concert or not.
Exert true ROGI, Robbie, have you ever been to a
Taylor Swift concert?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Negative? Do you know who Taylor Swift is? I do,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Ask Kelvin rob g how many Caitlyn Clark games he's
taken his kids, his wife and kids. I just the
spark to ask you see Caitlyn Clark. Did you guys
literally went and saw her play the Sparks last season?
And how many asking me questions when I as jerseys
have you brought your daughters for Caitlyn Clark, who's so
(15:01):
bar have a single jersey of anything of any sport.
She's so popular she is.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But I don't even understand how this is debatable, Like
you're making it as if this an indictment in baseball
is the worst thing.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
This is just a ridiculous comments baseball.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Baseball has not done a masterful job, huge totally within
the sport.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Absolutely, I totally disagree.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I just don't think that this is a narrative that
people have been saying about baseball forever.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They've been saying everybody at some point, baseball's twenty five
years or thirty. I've been hearing it's not this, it's
but it's extraordinarily region, it's it's it's ridiculous, and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
No, it's not, and that's fine. India and the Indiana
fever or whatever. Nine Clark, nine thousand people, Kaitlyn Clark,
nine thousand people.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay, I don't even know how this is debatable A.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is Kaitlin Clark more
popular than current MLBACH star show Al Tanny or Aaron
Judge in America?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
We'll continue that conversation next with you.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
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Speaker 4 (16:56):
Rob there's some numbers. Two. By the way, Kitlin Clark Jerseys.
You asked you shall receive.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
According to Fanatics, Clark has Fever jersey ranks as the
second best selling basketball jersey across the NBA and the WNBA,
only traveling Steph Curry. That is crazy eight seven seven
ninety nine. On Fox conversation, Who's more popular? I said,
Caitlin Clark is more popular than any star right now
in baseball?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Rob completely disagrees. What do you say?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Who?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
We got Gamo in San Diego. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Gmo?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
What's going on? Rob? I agree with you, no way
know how Kaitlin Clark is a bigger star than Otani.
Look at his bobble headlines. There's people waiting there eight
hours before the game even starts, and they're two miles gone.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I've been that earlier. Naming Dodger Stadium. Likens are making
no sense?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
What's not and you're you're naming one game?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Look at nobody's making a game. We're talking about popularity.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
How many people watch that? It was more than two
point seven millions? Okay, right when O'tan was kitchen Japan.
That was just in the US.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It was.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The conversation was domestically right that she said, American athlete
in America. And they keep giving me either domestic or
people at the stadium in the game going to see them.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
They're not giving me popularity.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
They're not giving me uh social construct that everybody's talking
about whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
They're not giving me any of that.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, because because that's how you base on whether somebody's interested.
It's just like you use TV ratings that means people
are watching and you you attendance is not people who
are going to I'm but I'm trying to tell you
also that it does matter on whether or not people
(18:41):
are interested in you and going to your things that
involve you.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's why people use the level of popularity surpasses the
fans who are only my fans, the grandma in the
in the grocery as is when you're starting to but.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Those are those are the fans who are Caitlin Clark.
She has a very.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Uh faithful group of fans, but not everybody out there.
Most women that I know have no interest in Kaitlyn Clark.
I'm talking about the women that I know. I'm not
saying you're women or people you know. The women that I.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Know could care less about Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Uh, Andre in Massachusetts, You're in the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
What's up, Andre, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Thanks for taking the call. Love this topic. You know,
just from the standpoint of it, you know, it does
show the cultural force and phenomenon the Kaitlyn Clark is
and how the WNBA game has this tremendous opportunity. Again,
I'm coming from the basketball tradition, so real hoopers. I
always say, if you love hoops, then you love the
NBWNBA and you support it. And I think that's true
across the board.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Now, in terms of.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
The top let's get it, let's not get twisted. Shoeyotani
has the top Q rating amongst all athletes at thirty
three percent. I had to go ahead and look it up.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Go ahead, Gang, Please tell Calvin to look up his
Q rating that he brought up and tell him about Toni.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
So it's sort the highest among all of American pro athletes.
He's actually one percentage point above Michael Jordan's and.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He hasn't played in twenty five twenty years.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So first of all, you need to quote sources, Andre,
because if you're gonna tell me it's him, and he's
above Lebron. Nobody believes that he's above step. Nobody believes that.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
He just gave you the number.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Nobody on God's Green Earth believes he's to just call up.
You think you just called up and made up a number. Absolutely,
don't think I said quote the source.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
That's all. I just tell you that, no quote. If
you there's no way he just read it, just tell
them where you got it from. That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I can't come on the Odd Cup with just you
know out here open.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I absolutely believe Dre. I respect you know that I wouldn't,
but I wouldn't even waste my time. But I'm saying,
there's no way. You don't even believe he has a
Q rating higher than in Lebron.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yes he does, now he does, Yes he does. On
the downside, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You?
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Get Time magazine? Time Magazine is the source?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I actually, I really am, because there's no way Michael
Jordan there. If they're including the you don't even want
to believe Tom magazine. If they're including the world, that's
an American athlete domestically, Hey, Andre, thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Tony in Michigan you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Tony?
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Yo? Yeah, what's up? So I'm kind of agreeing a
little bit with both of y'all. But just like how
y'all mean with getting all the All Star votes above
Shaq and Kobe around their peak, that don't mean that
he was the most samous. You getting lot of You're
getting a lot of people from from overseas who was
making those votes at the time. But that don't mean
(21:40):
he was more popular than Kobe and Chet.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That's exactly my point. That's exactly my point.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, but but, but, but no, but Otani is not
just a Japanese star.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
He's something, damn it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
First of all, First of all, let me talk no,
you know, I say something.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
My god, he's I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's not.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's not Yeo Ming, my god, stop it with the Yoming.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
He's not me.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I don't care about the Basketball Hall of Fame. I
could care less about that. Come on, man, Yao Ming
is not. He's not old Tawani and he will never be.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I know, Tony, Tony, don't worry about You're making a
lot of sense, Tony, because you absolutely understand you for something.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
We're not talking about vote totals. We're not talking about
vote totals. Okay, that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
I'm talking about popularity.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's That's what the conversation was about. That's literally what
the it was never saying, Tony, conversation, baseball.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Fan, you to bring up Yao ming and Tani actually
didn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
That's an all star for an exhibition game.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Appreciate the carnational star. Stop it so it's not what
we're talking about. Oh, Tani is not an after national star.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And please be balanced with the let me talk. So
if we're gonna do that, yeah, well we'll do it
in balance with that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's all I'm gonna say. Because I let you ride
all the time for ten twelve minutes.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Okay, do you want me all the time? Dude?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's all I'm saying. I'm saying something right away. Cony
noted Steven Saga was trending.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
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Speaker 1 (23:33):
App All right, Steve, have a great night. Appreciate you, man.
It's the odd couple. Rob Parker kelvin Washington on the
Trash Talking Tuesday. We are joined now by Ben Verlander,
MLB analysts, host of the Flipping Bats podcast. Ben, what's
up man? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
What's up? Ben?
Speaker 11 (23:48):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No doubt. Appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
We were talking earlier, Dodgers struggling right now, losing four straight,
hadn't done that in a long time. Obviously losing pictures
by the day. Hey, just your thoughts on where they
are right now at this point the season.
Speaker 11 (24:03):
Yeah, I think they're just struggling pitching wise. The depths
that they had to start the year just immediately is gone.
You know, we're in May at this point, and so
many guys have gone down, so many guys have gotten injured.
And then you know, you look at the year and
you think Roki Sosaki is coming over and he's a
young phenom and you can afford to plug him into
(24:25):
the five spot and watch him blossom. Well, I mean
we're to a point now with injuries where well, rokiy
Sosaki is one of those guys too now injured, but
you know he was immediately then thrown into a position
where you need him to be basically a two guy
in the rotation and not have bumps and bruises he has.
So the pitching depths, it just has really been challenged
(24:45):
earlier in the year. And you know, you can't count
on even though the offense has MVPs everywhere you look,
you can't count on them put up ten runs every night.
And that's what they're having to do. So they're going
through it right now with injuries and it's been it's
been a tough go.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
How about the flip side, The Yankees have had nothing
but injuries that you lose your number one starter and
ace Garrett Cole before the season even starts, and there's somehow,
some way you lose one Soda in the off season
and yet they're still in first place.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
And the addition of obviously Max Freed, who's been tremendous
for them.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
Yeah, I think I gave a lot of pushback to
the way the whole offseason went and obviously like they
did what they could to try and get one Soto back,
but they didn't, and then I didn't feel like they
did enough with Freed, Bellinger and gold Schmidt. And you know,
to this point, especially after the Subway Series, it's looking
(25:44):
like that was enough. In fact, it might even work
out better. You know, you can't plan for Garrett Cole
to go down with his injury and missed the season.
But I'm not so sure if they got won Soto
back that they'd be able to get Max Freed as well.
So you'd miss out on won Soto, but then you're
able to add Freed has been fantastic and one of
the best pitchers in baseball. You're able to add Goldsmith
who's had a resurgence. Spellinger is really heating up at
(26:07):
the plate. So as of right now, it's looked to
work out for them. The offense has been really good.
They're winning ball games. Warren's been fantastic for them. I
watched him pitch tonight, punched out ten guys, a career high.
So everybody's stepping up for them with their injuries, and
I think that's a big reason for their success so far.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, let me ask you here too, Aaron Judge. We
already know the power and what he's been able to do.
At one point, he's leading the league in singles batting
four hundred. I mean, we haven't seen a guy put
together this kind with the kind of power that he has,
and in a league what the league average is two
forty two? Ben, you know what I mean, Like hitting
(26:46):
is like two forty two and he's batting four hundred.
What do you make of Aaron Judge coming back? Remember
you had the big drop in the World Series and
this season ended on a sour note. What do you
make of what he's done at the plate?
Speaker 11 (26:59):
Yeah, and I think the two Look, he's going to
have to deal with postseason narratives at this point. We've
seen it with Clayton Kershall throughout his career. Nobody doubts
Clayton Kershall is one of the greatest of all time,
but he has he's put himself in a position to
deal with postseason narratives and that's what Aaron Judge has
done now. But in the regular season, I mean, we're
(27:20):
getting close to being able to have the conversations of
Barry Bonds Babe Bruce over the last one hundred and
sixty two games. You know, you can compare it to
one of Babe Bruce's best seasons and it's above that.
So I mean, legitimately, I don't say that lightly when
it comes to Barry Bonds. I consider Barry Bonds the
greatest hitter of all time. And if Aaron Judge keeps
(27:42):
doing what he's doing, I mean we're going to have
those conversations with the is this the right handed Barry Bonds? Look,
guys are throwing one hundred now every day with ninety
two mile an hour sliders. Pitching is different. Pitching is
very difficult. So the fact that he's doing what he's
doing and hitting around four hundred with the pitching the
way it is is truly remarkable.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Hey, Ben is our guest.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Ben Verlander, MLB analysts, host of the Flipping Bats podcast
on with the Odd Couple Robin Kevin on the Trash
Talking Tuesday. Ben, we were just talking about a moment ago.
We were talking about Wan Sota when he was when
he was a nick But I want to go back
to some.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Reports, right it was not him.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right now, if Judges at a home run as we're
talking right, as he heards talking about he said, oh
you want to see long time number sixteen forty three
RBIs there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, one of this amazing season after season. At this point,
he's just kind of almost like this just what he does.
I was going back to Wa soda before Judge did
what he does. You got reports out here that right now,
especially coming from Clapshish if I clappish black clappers, talking
about Wuan Soto could be miserable. Reports that obviously get
(28:51):
into it with his manager, that he's not hustling and
could just not be happy. What do you make of
this early season buyer's remorse. Rob and I talked about
it when the deal was done. I said, now he's
got to, you know, heavy as a head that wears
the crown, be careful what happens when you want to
be the face of a franchise were you know, three
quarters of a billion dollars.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Yeah, look, I think it's all I think it's all
ridiculous that it's baseball's ups and downs, and one Soto
is having a good year, not not an exceptional year,
and not a Wan Soto year so far, and then
it's it's exaggerated or accelerated talks when he's banging balls
(29:31):
off the Monster and getting singles because he's not running
out of the box, and it's a bad look. He's
going through a rough stretch right now. Sure, this Subway
series he has won for ten, but kind of off
the field as well, with everything coming about and Mets
fans really want them to show up and he didn't,
and then all the hustling stuff. He's going to be fun.
He's won, Soto, all these talks and all the drama
(29:54):
is what makes sports great. I love it. Everybody's going
to overreact, and that's exactly what I think it is.
I think it's an overreaction. Look, I don't know if
you guys saw it, but Pedro Martinez came out with
a tweet today and basically said, look, at one point,
I got paid him as the highest played player, highest
paid player in baseball, and it was it was tough
for me. I had to adjust. I had to learn
(30:15):
how to just be myself and not live up to
those expectations or not put more on myself. And I
think that's what I think, that's what he's doing. It's
not that he doesn't care, which could be. Look, I'm
not advocating for not running out of the box. It's
a bad look, but I don't think it's that he
doesn't care. I think there's frustration. I think he's pressing.
I think he's trying to do too much. And I
(30:37):
think right now he's just struggling a little bit and
he's making and he's getting caught out in the media
for it. But I think he's going to be fine.
He's a stud, he's a star. He's one of the
greatest young players that we've seen, and I think Wanceau
is going to be just fine.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
And we saw this with the.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Mets too, when Francisco Lindor signed a big contract and.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Came to the Mets exactly, he was terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
The fans were on him, and he's turned in blossom
into the start that he was in Cleveland. So I'm
with you on that last thing. We got less than
a minute just the Tigers in the Central. That's a
competitive division. The Twins are on fire. You know how
good Kansas City was a year ago and Cleveland has
always seems to be in the mix. That's a tough division.
(31:18):
What did a Tiger stack up?
Speaker 11 (31:21):
I think Tiger's the best team in baseball right now,
and I think before this week, before you know this
stretch that they've been on. I think everybody would say
the Dodgers are the best team. They're finally you know,
they're they're in a groove. You get swept by the Angels,
who aren't a good baseball team, and continue a losing streak.
I just can't say it's them right now. And you know,
(31:41):
the Tigers are Tigers were the first team in baseball
to reach thirty wins. They did that on Friday of
last week, and they're still the only team in baseball
to even reach thirty wins. They're at thirty one. They
don't do it like the Dodgers, they don't do it
like everyone else. But I in my opinion, they have
the best pitcher in base fall in Trek Scoogle.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
A J.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Hench is incredible. They've gotten a resurgence from Hobby Baiez.
Just everywhere you look. They're pushing the right buttons and
they are going to pitch the lights out. And I
think right now, I think they're the best team in
the game of baseball.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, they were able to you know, you thought was
last year fluke and obviously they're they're not. It wasn't
a fluke, and they're doing very well this season. All right, Ben,
thank you man. We appreciate you.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
Of course, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
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Last Call eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
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Speaker 4 (32:34):
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Speaker 4 (32:54):
Who's that for? Julius Randall? Are here looking like Steph Curry?
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Six?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Seven threes? It's The Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio. Robert
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Go got getting shaped for that?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
All right? Last go? Who we got?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Kevin and Cub City. You're on the Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
What's up? Kevin?
Speaker 10 (33:28):
God is good.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
All the time?
Speaker 10 (33:31):
I loved your debate on Otani and Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
One thing I.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Want to just mention to y'all. I'm gonna take you
back to nineteen seventy nine when a guy named Magic
Johnson played Larry Bird and one of the most watched
college basketball games of all time changed NBA as we
know it and everybody in America. One of the fall
of those players in the NBA. Go fast forward to
LSU versus Iowa with Angel Reese against Caitlin Clark. Angel
(33:57):
Reese is not mentioned as big as Kaitlin Clark what
she's done up for women's basketball because when LSU played
Iowan beat them, that was a rivalry. They were talking
trash Andurieu soaking smack, and we were invested in these
women on the next level. Now you've got angeuries from Chicago,
Caitland Clark on Indiana saying conference it's a rivalry and
(34:17):
women men. Everybody wants to see how those swim for
when they play each other. I go to the two
point four million viewers. Angel Reef is just as part
as the explosion for the excitement of women's basketball as Clayland.
Clayland Clark and women's basketball should be thanking her. When
they get these, all the women get the new contracts.
Thank Angel Reese because she's made in women's basketball via
(34:39):
Boat Watch the Boat, and Big Time Box Office. She's
got the game of selling sports. She looks like Beyonce knows,
and she plays like she's Kevin Durant.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Dennis Robbins.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
She's all over the place. She's a great player, but
she's a great saleswoman of the league, and she knows
what she's doing. And we enjoyed her just as much
as Kaitlyn Clark. So you got to give her flowers.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Too, all right, And I want to do add one thing.
Uh Time Magazine in twenty twenty five. This came out
in April. Caitlin Clark wasn't even on the list of
the one hundred most influential people. Somehow they left her
off the list completely. This is the person who has
the biggest uh Q rating and she's bigger than she
(35:24):
was left off a top one hundred list by Time magazine.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Article where she was second where Otani was second.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
No I'm giving you how she was left off, which
is second or third? She was left off of They lifted,
They lifted. They listed one hundred people most influential.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
That's crazy. Do you think that's a hundred? Yeah, I
think it's right. I just it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
One hundred when nobody would spending that much immediate time
on something that wasn't somebody who didn't warrant it.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Come on, now, how did one hundred people are better
than well more than Caitlin Claw?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
And I still.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Can't find this article, Rob g. Have you been able
to find it? Yes, we're old. Tani is behind Michael
Jordan because the Tiger Woods leave Earth?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Did Tom Brady lead Earth? Did Lebron leave Earth? Okay?
Because I haven't found it either.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well, I just gave you what you just I just
gave you this for a top one hundred.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
You're influential.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I don't even know how that's even possible that she
didn't even make the list.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Time for tom magazine.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
She was the Athlete of the Year in twenty twenty four,
but in twenty twenty five she's not in the top
one hundred.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Wow you sound.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I'm just just saying, all right, what's tomorrow and Wednesday?
We doing tomorrow Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
The flags gotta go? The flag football. We didn't even
talk about that also.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
We got the halftime of this game where the Timberwolves,
I tell you what, Timberwolves should be there up for
forty eight, forty four. But I would be a little
upset that I'm wasting one of the best Julius rand
halves of his life.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
You're on the.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Road, You'll take a lead. You don't want to get
buried on the road. This is a great start for
the Timberwolves. They're not gonna blow out the thunder. They
have a great defense. Why would you be looking at
it going I'm mad, I'm down.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
By four, I'm up. I'm saying I want to make sure.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
But but you're going on the road.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Because that if I if I got Julius Randall, hey
was he had six threes.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
He's got five to threes, six of eight shooting all
Timberwolves not named Julius Randall shooting nine for thirty.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Five the first half.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
The reason why they're winning, though, is because SGA, who
is their hub offensively, you know, k s two for
thirteen shooting in the first that's a bad.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And I could tell he was nervous that his first
shot was a three. Uh or well at least maybe
not for but one of his first couple of shots,
and he hit all backboard. It wasn't a pressure shot,
it wasn't a running the clocks running out. He hit
nothing but the phone. I was like, Okay, he's a
little nervous. He understands, you know, big game. I expected
to bounce back second half too, like he did. Uh
in Game seven was a twenty three combined thirty for
(37:57):
eighty three between the two teams and the first half.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I just think a lot of rebounds to be had
in Oklahoma City right now.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, so much soda Dennis Robin pad ten last night tonight.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
He just naturally has them.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
If they're nervous, they're nervous. It is a big game
all of and again, twenty four years old on average,
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Speaker 4 (01:12):
On Last Call.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And our number three. Obviously, the basketball game is going on. Yep,
it's a good one right now.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Seventeen sixteen? Okay, see about four and a half minutes
to go in the first quarter. For people who aren't
near TV or working or something, you can't see it,
keep you yep updated and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'll let you start on this thing here because this
will be one of your low points career on the
Odd Couple.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, and just be careful.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I just want you, okay, I want you. You know
you want to have a long career here too. Okay,
So go ahead, Rob g set this up.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So Kelvin, Yeah, yeah, you while you were where you
were going, we had some conversation, right Roch.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
We already know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I saw the bad take on that, and I was
glad I didn't work that night.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That was obviously a night I wasn't working.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Okay, Well, just to give you a pull the curtain
back on what happened in the Odd Couple group chat,
Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Of course, you know I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
A reporter, but anything baseball related trying to I'm going
to make sure you act like a public relations office.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Wait, wait a minute, do I send you stories? It
could be about any sport, do I put in the
group chat?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yes, you do.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, so I don't just put baseball no.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, but you hardcore pr with bad eight fifty seven
AM quiet. Rob Parker sent a screenshot that he took
the night before at eleven twenty to me, and it's
a screenshot of the Sunday Night baseball TV ratings. Sunday's
Mets Yankees game average two point five four million viewers,
(02:47):
the most watching in that baseball broadcast since August of
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
That's a big number. That's a long time great for
them twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
The only problem is also on Sunday, Caitlin Clark and
the Indiana Fever in their season opener against Angel Reese
and the Chicago Sky averaged two point seven million viewers,
peaked at three point one million on ABC, making it
the largest w NBA audience ever on an ESPN network.
(03:17):
That of course, now wait a minute, it was on ABC.
It was but ESPN and ABC partnership. It was on
over the air television, Rob Parker. No, no, get to
the point, Kelvin. You know television.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I do know.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Television is spectrum cable, the same as one of the
local stations over the air channels. No, you can't say, man,
I'll give you that. No, no, no, you can't be
and I'm just telling.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You that's true.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But I'm gonna give you all numbers because more people
have free TV didn't have.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
But I'm gonna give you here's the difference. Go ahead,
just gonna make I will concede that more twenty years ago.
You either have cable or you don't. Like everybody's watching,
there's no such thing as like I have TV with
you have cable, No, you don't. Everybody doesn't have and
you can access everything now through online. So watching something
on two four seven based off it's not the same. Also,
(04:11):
your numbers are not the same as k NBC and LOSS.
I don't care how many people have cable. Your numbers
do not match up with the local TV stations. I'm
talking about the raw numbers of people watching. I'm convinced
to the surprise. Don't be surprised. Bring in some numbers,
because here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It ain't just saying cable is never even.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Given the NFL games. Gee, this is why this is
a great conversation for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Just ahead the fact that he has to go to
the semantics of it shows how well this is for
the w n b A that we have to go
to the justifications of the semantic point.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, this is part of the point.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
So we had the conversation that prior to even this
is prior to those numbers. The impetus was the w
n b A commissioner. She came out and she said,
Caitlin Clark is the biggest American sports most popular American
athlete right now, And she later then clarified and said
under thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
But initially she said that.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So Carrie Rose and I had the conversation way, I mean,
I know she's very popular. She top five, and so
we came to she's top five. You got Lebron, you
got Steph, you have Patrick Mahomes, and then I said
she's probably four, and Rob g brought up Aaron Rodgers.
So I was like, all right, Aaron Rodgers right there,
and but we had her in the five, and I said,
it's interesting that neither of us are any of us
(05:30):
rober either put a baseball player ahead of her in
popularity not obviously, finances not obviously, and the key part
being domestically because show Hey obviously in the continent of Asia,
is going crazy with the numbers, but domestically, and that
was our point. And another person called and brought up
one other one and I said, oh wow, I would
put this person above all too, maybe even brother Caitlin
(05:51):
with some own bios.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I said, oh yeah, that some own bios for sure,
because I just threw up in my mouth. You don't
think some o bios. No, I don't go ahead. Hold on,
I don't go ahead.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I'm not gonna lie. You can't say that, can or can? No,
you can't. You can't. Someone's definitely big that. No, I'm
agreeing with you. You agree with me, Rob You can't
say that. You cannot tell me.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Simone Biles is not bigger than anyone you'd like to
name an MLB. It is not even a knock on
MLB as much as it's a compliment to to how big.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
That is the point. Okay, your point that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Kaitlin Clark when we were having a conversation and it
wasn't even But this.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Is typical, Okay, this is prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
She's in the Okay, but she's in the league that
averages nine thousand people, nine thousand, and yes, all the
numbers are great this this time around for her first
year because they were so lousy. They didn't go up
a thousand percent. They went up forty eight percent. Attendance
forty eight when she plays at home or when she goes.
(06:55):
She didn't sell out every game that she plays at
at home. Do they sell out? Absolutely, just still in
the league that has five and six thousand people.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
But I'm talking about her.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
This is what I'm trying to tell you is the
league was so bad that her influence. You think that
everybody in America's watching a WNBA or looking at Caitlin
Clark and the numbers are astronomical, they're not. There were
even some games in the NCAA tournament we talked about
(07:28):
where the women's game had very similar numbers. She got
she bested them, but they were very similar. So it's
not like it was off the charts or whatever. And
when you talk about show, hey, yes, internationally, but you
cannot discount him nationally. And what Joe Theisman, an NFL MVP,
just talked about is true.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
We're watching something we've never seen.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
There's no way Caitlyn Clark is bigger than shoe hail.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Tani internationally or nationally.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
There's no way that Caitlin Clark is bigger than Aaron Judge.
I don't care he that he hasn't won a championship.
There's no way. When you talk about the sales, the
ticket sales at Yankee Stadium, his jersey sales, the numbers.
When you talk about baseball, you always look at the
same thing. Well, a national game of one sixty two.
(08:23):
They played forty WNBA games and still forty four zero
compared to one sixty two. It's like when people judge
a Major League Baseball game against an NFL game, Well,
if baseball had sixteen or seventeen games, not one sixty two.
If I don't watch Tuesday night's Dodger game, I know
(08:44):
I can watch Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I know I can watch Thursday.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
If there were sixteen seventeen baseball games a year, you
wouldn't be able to get a Dodger ticket. The reason
that the NFL dropped the blackout rob g. When you
were growing up, there were blackouts, right, Why did they
out blackouts?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
They can't sell out the stadium. They can't. They used
to have an eighty five percent.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You grew up in Detroit, who used to have to
buy the ticket so that we can see the Lions games.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Aren't van? Am I right or wrong? Thing?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Used to have to buy the tickets because they couldn't
sell out the stadium. And my point is sometimes I
think people get caught up when you look at Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
They sell seventy three million tickets.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
This is not people, you gotta buy tickets go to
the ballpark. You got seventy three million during the summer
when there's a million things to go and do. When
you talk about the NFL, you have a captive audience.
It's wintertime. Where are we going?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Let me see?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Do I want to go to church or do I
want to stay home and watch football? What are my
options in the summer. I have so many different, so
many different options to go see and do in the summer,
and they still draw it unbelievable. We've we've seen these
record numbers April and May. It's not even the best
weather of the year, the best time to go to baseball.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I just don't think, are you done? Yeah, I'm not done.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
But I'm just gonna tell you the idea that she's
bigger than Shoe hal Tony is laughable.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Everything just said was about attendance going to as I
just said that I don't disagree that people sell out
Dodger State and people sell out Yankee saying you're right,
Aaron Judge can walk around so much of America and
a lot of people wouldn't know who he is.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And that's just a fetcher cop. That's not He's six
foot eight Aaron Gordon. They would think that was Aaron Gordon.
Rob rob.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Nobody's questioning nobody. You're taking it personal on it as
an insult on base It's an insult period. Judge star
is a star. But you can substitute him, No Trout,
you can substitute him with Bryce Opera.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No you can't baseball, simply, no you can.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It is a truth when when you talk about white
Kitlyn Clark, everybody.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Knows who she is. If she's walking by, no.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
They don't, yes her minions, no, no, ro Literally the
last two to three years, everyone knows who she is.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Because of the controversy, you got grown men arguing about her.
Argument is not even about her. They would argue plenty
about her, and so they go past it. But you
got people arguing about her. You got people who never
used to watch watching I'm not questioning does baseball have
a fan base. That's not the argument. Does baseball have loyalists?
Does baseball enjoyable? Absolutely? The question simply was, right now
(11:44):
we're talking about the most popular athletes in America. I
don't think a single baseball player is larger than obviously
Lebron obviously, Steph you said obviously, Mahomes obviously.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Can it sound crazy?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You went to spring training and you saw the crowds
show hal tany did you not?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I just told you, Okay, but you're saying most of
them came from No, they did not.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Would you stop? You're gonna say they came from Japan?
Rob I literally did stories on it. A lot of them.
People came. Everybody came. They don't live here. No, they
flew in from Japan first.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And there were literally, like, I'm asking you, how many
passports did you check?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Come on, Calvin, I literally interview people. I mean, how
are you kidding me? How many did you interview? And
they all came from Japan?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
How did they not? How did they speak to you?
Don't want to talk to me? Okay? Did they have
an interpreter? Actually? Literally some people did what are you talking.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
About man you did. You're kidding yourself. How much everybody
was there? See this is the word.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Now you're making it personal because now you're saying as
if I wasn't there and talking to people.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No, I don't believe that everybody was from the percentage.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I'm I'm not American.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I know a lot of people literally telling us all
these signs, I came from Japan?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
How many? How many?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
How many people? Did you see what the sign said?
I came from one hundred and forty people there? You
do realize there's not a lot of people there. It's
just instead of there being twenty, there were one hundred
and twenty rob spring training people there to get ball signed.
You acting like it's a thousand people, there was like
one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Two hundred, which normally it's twenty to thirty.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So the idea that show Hey is massive, Yes, especially internationally.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Nobody's nobody arguing that. No, you're trying to be little
him the same. I guess you walk because you're using
the term internationally. It's not just internationally.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
He is a huge star in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
But the conversation is pately, No, he's no but and
that's the count. Nobody's questioning, not talking about all You're
talking about it. Oh yeah, internationally because the Asian people
like him, so yeah, because you have a whole state.
He's a huge star. Is when the Dodgers go anywhere,
(13:52):
they sell out. They you're naming baseball fans. Nobody's questioning.
If I buy a ticket to Kendrick Lamar's concert tomorrow,
guess who else gonna you? There a bunch of Kendrick
Lamar fans. Rob Duh, duh.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You're literally telling me the people who are going to
a baseball stadium, why would they not know show hal
tany That's not what I'm saying. That's exactly what you said.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
If you say that they don't know you're going to
because they said, you see the game conversation than baseball,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's no, that's the point of popularity. People know Taylor Swift,
whether they go to a Taylor Swift concert or not.
Exert true ROGI, Robbie, have you ever been to a
Taylor Swift concert?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Negative? Do you know who Taylor Swift is? I do,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Ask Kelvin rob g how many Caitlyn Clark games he's
taken his kids, his wife and kids. I just the
spark to ask you see Caitlyn Clark. Did you guys
literally went and saw her play the Sparks last season?
And how many asking me questions when I as jerseys
have you brought your daughters for Caitlyn Clark, who's so
(15:01):
bar have a single jersey of anything of any sport.
She's so popular she is.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But I don't even understand how this is debatable, Like
you're making it as if this an indictment in baseball
is the worst thing.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
This is just a ridiculous comments baseball.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Baseball has not done a masterful job, huge totally within
the sport.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Absolutely, I totally disagree.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I just don't think that this is a narrative that
people have been saying about baseball forever.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They've been saying everybody at some point, baseball's twenty five
years or thirty. I've been hearing it's not this, it's
but it's extraordinarily region, it's it's it's ridiculous, and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
No, it's not, and that's fine. India and the Indiana
fever or whatever. Nine Clark, nine thousand people, Kaitlyn Clark,
nine thousand people.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay, I don't even know how this is debatable A.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Is Kaitlin Clark more
popular than current MLBACH star show Al Tanny or Aaron
Judge in America?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
We'll continue that conversation next with you.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
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Speaker 4 (16:56):
Rob there's some numbers. Two. By the way, Kitlin Clark Jerseys.
You asked you shall receive.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
According to Fanatics, Clark has Fever jersey ranks as the
second best selling basketball jersey across the NBA and the WNBA,
only traveling Steph Curry. That is crazy eight seven seven
ninety nine. On Fox conversation, Who's more popular? I said,
Caitlin Clark is more popular than any star right now
in baseball?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Rob completely disagrees. What do you say?
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Who?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
We got Gamo in San Diego. You're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Gmo?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
What's going on? Rob? I agree with you, no way
know how Kaitlin Clark is a bigger star than Otani.
Look at his bobble headlines. There's people waiting there eight
hours before the game even starts, and they're two miles gone.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I've been that earlier. Naming Dodger Stadium. Likens are making
no sense?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
What's not and you're you're naming one game?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Look at nobody's making a game. We're talking about popularity.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
How many people watch that? It was more than two
point seven millions? Okay, right when O'tan was kitchen Japan.
That was just in the US.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It was.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The conversation was domestically right that she said, American athlete
in America. And they keep giving me either domestic or
people at the stadium in the game going to see them.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
They're not giving me popularity.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
They're not giving me uh social construct that everybody's talking
about whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
They're not giving me any of that.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, because because that's how you base on whether somebody's interested.
It's just like you use TV ratings that means people
are watching and you you attendance is not people who
are going to I'm but I'm trying to tell you
also that it does matter on whether or not people
(18:41):
are interested in you and going to your things that
involve you.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That's why people use the level of popularity surpasses the
fans who are only my fans, the grandma in the
in the grocery as is when you're starting to but.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Those are those are the fans who are Caitlin Clark.
She has a very.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Uh faithful group of fans, but not everybody out there.
Most women that I know have no interest in Kaitlyn Clark.
I'm talking about the women that I know. I'm not
saying you're women or people you know. The women that I.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Know could care less about Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Uh, Andre in Massachusetts, You're in the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
What's up, Andre, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Thanks for taking the call. Love this topic. You know,
just from the standpoint of it, you know, it does
show the cultural force and phenomenon the Kaitlyn Clark is
and how the WNBA game has this tremendous opportunity. Again,
I'm coming from the basketball tradition, so real hoopers. I
always say, if you love hoops, then you love the
NBWNBA and you support it. And I think that's true
across the board.
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Now, in terms of.
Speaker 8 (19:44):
The top let's get it, let's not get twisted. Shoeyotani
has the top Q rating amongst all athletes at thirty
three percent. I had to go ahead and look it up.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Go ahead, Gang, Please tell Calvin to look up his
Q rating that he brought up and tell him about Toni.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
So it's sort the highest among all of American pro athletes.
He's actually one percentage point above Michael Jordan's and.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He hasn't played in twenty five twenty years.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
So first of all, you need to quote sources, Andre,
because if you're gonna tell me it's him, and he's
above Lebron. Nobody believes that he's above step. Nobody believes that.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
He just gave you the number.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Nobody on God's Green Earth believes he's to just call up.
You think you just called up and made up a number. Absolutely,
don't think I said quote the source.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
That's all. I just tell you that, no quote. If
you there's no way he just read it, just tell
them where you got it from. That's all. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
I can't.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I can't come on the Odd Cup with just you
know out here open.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I absolutely believe Dre. I respect you know that I wouldn't,
but I wouldn't even waste my time. But I'm saying,
there's no way. You don't even believe he has a
Q rating higher than in Lebron.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yes he does, now he does, Yes he does. On
the downside, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You?
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Get Time magazine? Time Magazine is the source?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I actually, I really am, because there's no way Michael
Jordan there. If they're including the you don't even want
to believe Tom magazine. If they're including the world, that's
an American athlete domestically, Hey, Andre, thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Tony in Michigan you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Tony?
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Yo? Yeah, what's up? So I'm kind of agreeing a
little bit with both of y'all. But just like how
y'all mean with getting all the All Star votes above
Shaq and Kobe around their peak, that don't mean that
he was the most samous. You getting lot of You're
getting a lot of people from from overseas who was
making those votes at the time. But that don't mean
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he was more popular than Kobe and Chet.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That's exactly my point. That's exactly my point.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, but but, but, but no, but Otani is not
just a Japanese star.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
He's something, damn it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
First of all, First of all, let me talk no,
you know, I say something.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
My god, he's I'm not saying. I'm not saying he's not.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's not Yeo Ming, my god, stop it with the Yoming.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
He's not me.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I don't care about the Basketball Hall of Fame. I
could care less about that. Come on, man, Yao Ming
is not. He's not old Tawani and he will never be.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I know, Tony, Tony, don't worry about You're making a
lot of sense, Tony, because you absolutely understand you for something.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
We're not talking about vote totals. We're not talking about
vote totals. Okay, that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
I'm talking about popularity.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's That's what the conversation was about. That's literally what
the it was never saying, Tony, conversation, baseball.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Fan, you to bring up Yao ming and Tani actually
didn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
That's an all star for an exhibition game.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Appreciate the carnational star. Stop it so it's not what
we're talking about. Oh, Tani is not an after national star.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
And please be balanced with the let me talk. So
if we're gonna do that, yeah, well we'll do it
in balance with that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's all I'm gonna say. Because I let you ride
all the time for ten twelve minutes.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Okay, do you want me all the time? Dude?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
That's all I'm saying. I'm saying something right away. Cony
noted Steven Saga was trending.
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Speaker 1 (23:33):
App All right, Steve, have a great night. Appreciate you, man.
It's the odd couple. Rob Parker kelvin Washington on the
Trash Talking Tuesday. We are joined now by Ben Verlander,
MLB analysts, host of the Flipping Bats podcast. Ben, what's
up man? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
What's up? Ben?
Speaker 11 (23:48):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
No doubt. Appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
We were talking earlier, Dodgers struggling right now, losing four straight,
hadn't done that in a long time. Obviously losing pictures
by the day. Hey, just your thoughts on where they
are right now at this point the season.
Speaker 11 (24:03):
Yeah, I think they're just struggling pitching wise. The depths
that they had to start the year just immediately is gone.
You know, we're in May at this point, and so
many guys have gone down, so many guys have gotten injured.
And then you know, you look at the year and
you think Roki Sosaki is coming over and he's a
young phenom and you can afford to plug him into
(24:25):
the five spot and watch him blossom. Well, I mean
we're to a point now with injuries where well, rokiy
Sosaki is one of those guys too now injured, but
you know he was immediately then thrown into a position
where you need him to be basically a two guy
in the rotation and not have bumps and bruises he has.
So the pitching depths, it just has really been challenged
(24:45):
earlier in the year. And you know, you can't count
on even though the offense has MVPs everywhere you look,
you can't count on them put up ten runs every night.
And that's what they're having to do. So they're going
through it right now with injuries and it's been it's
been a tough go.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
How about the flip side, The Yankees have had nothing
but injuries that you lose your number one starter and
ace Garrett Cole before the season even starts, and there's somehow,
some way you lose one Soda in the off season
and yet they're still in first place.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
And the addition of obviously Max Freed, who's been tremendous
for them.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
Yeah, I think I gave a lot of pushback to
the way the whole offseason went and obviously like they
did what they could to try and get one Soto back,
but they didn't, and then I didn't feel like they
did enough with Freed, Bellinger and gold Schmidt. And you know,
to this point, especially after the Subway Series, it's looking
(25:44):
like that was enough. In fact, it might even work
out better. You know, you can't plan for Garrett Cole
to go down with his injury and missed the season.
But I'm not so sure if they got won Soto
back that they'd be able to get Max Freed as well.
So you'd miss out on won Soto, but then you're
able to add Freed has been fantastic and one of
the best pitchers in baseball. You're able to add Goldsmith
who's had a resurgence. Spellinger is really heating up at
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the plate. So as of right now, it's looked to
work out for them. The offense has been really good.
They're winning ball games. Warren's been fantastic for them. I
watched him pitch tonight, punched out ten guys, a career high.
So everybody's stepping up for them with their injuries, and
I think that's a big reason for their success so far.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, let me ask you here too, Aaron Judge. We
already know the power and what he's been able to do.
At one point, he's leading the league in singles batting
four hundred. I mean, we haven't seen a guy put
together this kind with the kind of power that he has,
and in a league what the league average is two
forty two? Ben, you know what I mean, Like hitting
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is like two forty two and he's batting four hundred.
What do you make of Aaron Judge coming back? Remember
you had the big drop in the World Series and
this season ended on a sour note. What do you
make of what he's done at the plate?
Speaker 11 (26:59):
Yeah, and I think the two Look, he's going to
have to deal with postseason narratives at this point. We've
seen it with Clayton Kershall throughout his career. Nobody doubts
Clayton Kershall is one of the greatest of all time,
but he has he's put himself in a position to
deal with postseason narratives and that's what Aaron Judge has
done now. But in the regular season, I mean, we're
(27:20):
getting close to being able to have the conversations of
Barry Bonds Babe Bruce over the last one hundred and
sixty two games. You know, you can compare it to
one of Babe Bruce's best seasons and it's above that.
So I mean, legitimately, I don't say that lightly when
it comes to Barry Bonds. I consider Barry Bonds the
greatest hitter of all time. And if Aaron Judge keeps
(27:42):
doing what he's doing, I mean we're going to have
those conversations with the is this the right handed Barry Bonds? Look,
guys are throwing one hundred now every day with ninety
two mile an hour sliders. Pitching is different. Pitching is
very difficult. So the fact that he's doing what he's
doing and hitting around four hundred with the pitching the
way it is is truly remarkable.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Hey, Ben is our guest.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Ben Verlander, MLB analysts, host of the Flipping Bats podcast
on with the Odd Couple Robin Kevin on the Trash
Talking Tuesday. Ben, we were just talking about a moment ago.
We were talking about Wan Sota when he was when
he was a nick But I want to go back
to some.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Reports, right it was not him.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right now, if Judges at a home run as we're
talking right, as he heards talking about he said, oh
you want to see long time number sixteen forty three
RBIs there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, one of this amazing season after season. At this point,
he's just kind of almost like this just what he does.
I was going back to Wa soda before Judge did
what he does. You got reports out here that right now,
especially coming from Clapshish if I clappish black clappers, talking
about Wuan Soto could be miserable. Reports that obviously get
(28:51):
into it with his manager, that he's not hustling and
could just not be happy. What do you make of
this early season buyer's remorse. Rob and I talked about
it when the deal was done. I said, now he's
got to, you know, heavy as a head that wears
the crown, be careful what happens when you want to
be the face of a franchise were you know, three
quarters of a billion dollars.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
Yeah, look, I think it's all I think it's all
ridiculous that it's baseball's ups and downs, and one Soto
is having a good year, not not an exceptional year,
and not a Wan Soto year so far, and then
it's it's exaggerated or accelerated talks when he's banging balls
(29:31):
off the Monster and getting singles because he's not running
out of the box, and it's a bad look. He's
going through a rough stretch right now. Sure, this Subway
series he has won for ten, but kind of off
the field as well, with everything coming about and Mets
fans really want them to show up and he didn't,
and then all the hustling stuff. He's going to be fun.
He's won, Soto, all these talks and all the drama
(29:54):
is what makes sports great. I love it. Everybody's going
to overreact, and that's exactly what I think it is.
I think it's an overreaction. Look, I don't know if
you guys saw it, but Pedro Martinez came out with
a tweet today and basically said, look, at one point,
I got paid him as the highest played player, highest
paid player in baseball, and it was it was tough
for me. I had to adjust. I had to learn
(30:15):
how to just be myself and not live up to
those expectations or not put more on myself. And I
think that's what I think, that's what he's doing. It's
not that he doesn't care, which could be. Look, I'm
not advocating for not running out of the box. It's
a bad look, but I don't think it's that he
doesn't care. I think there's frustration. I think he's pressing.
I think he's trying to do too much. And I
(30:37):
think right now he's just struggling a little bit and
he's making and he's getting caught out in the media
for it. But I think he's going to be fine.
He's a stud, he's a star. He's one of the
greatest young players that we've seen, and I think Wanceau
is going to be just fine.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
And we saw this with the.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Mets too, when Francisco Lindor signed a big contract and.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Came to the Mets exactly, he was terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
The fans were on him, and he's turned in blossom
into the start that he was in Cleveland. So I'm
with you on that last thing. We got less than
a minute just the Tigers in the Central. That's a
competitive division. The Twins are on fire. You know how
good Kansas City was a year ago and Cleveland has
always seems to be in the mix. That's a tough division.
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What did a Tiger stack up?
Speaker 11 (31:21):
I think Tiger's the best team in baseball right now,
and I think before this week, before you know this
stretch that they've been on. I think everybody would say
the Dodgers are the best team. They're finally you know,
they're they're in a groove. You get swept by the Angels,
who aren't a good baseball team, and continue a losing streak.
I just can't say it's them right now. And you know,
(31:41):
the Tigers are Tigers were the first team in baseball
to reach thirty wins. They did that on Friday of
last week, and they're still the only team in baseball
to even reach thirty wins. They're at thirty one. They
don't do it like the Dodgers, they don't do it
like everyone else. But I in my opinion, they have
the best pitcher in base fall in Trek Scoogle.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
A J.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Hench is incredible. They've gotten a resurgence from Hobby Baiez.
Just everywhere you look. They're pushing the right buttons and
they are going to pitch the lights out. And I
think right now, I think they're the best team in
the game of baseball.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, they were able to you know, you thought was
last year fluke and obviously they're they're not. It wasn't
a fluke, and they're doing very well this season. All right, Ben,
thank you man. We appreciate you.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
Of course, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Guys, Ben Verlander give them a follow on X all Right,
Last Call eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox's Time for Last Call.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Had a bunch of topics throughout the day. If you
couldn't get in, you know what to do. Hit us up.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
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Speaker 4 (32:54):
Who's that for? Julius Randall? Are here looking like Steph Curry?
What do you got?
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Six?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Seven threes? It's The Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio. Robert
Kelvin on the Trash Talking Tuesday. Thank you for rocking
with your boys, and it's time now for Last Call.
Go got getting shaped for that?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
All right? Last go? Who we got?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Kevin and Cub City. You're on the Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
What's up? Kevin?
Speaker 10 (33:28):
God is good.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
All the time?
Speaker 10 (33:31):
I loved your debate on Otani and Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
One thing I.
Speaker 10 (33:35):
Want to just mention to y'all. I'm gonna take you
back to nineteen seventy nine when a guy named Magic
Johnson played Larry Bird and one of the most watched
college basketball games of all time changed NBA as we
know it and everybody in America. One of the fall
of those players in the NBA. Go fast forward to
LSU versus Iowa with Angel Reese against Caitlin Clark. Angel
(33:57):
Reese is not mentioned as big as Kaitlin Clark what
she's done up for women's basketball because when LSU played
Iowan beat them, that was a rivalry. They were talking
trash Andurieu soaking smack, and we were invested in these
women on the next level. Now you've got angeuries from Chicago,
Caitland Clark on Indiana saying conference it's a rivalry and
(34:17):
women men. Everybody wants to see how those swim for
when they play each other. I go to the two
point four million viewers. Angel Reef is just as part
as the explosion for the excitement of women's basketball as Clayland.
Clayland Clark and women's basketball should be thanking her. When
they get these, all the women get the new contracts.
Thank Angel Reese because she's made in women's basketball via
(34:39):
Boat Watch the Boat, and Big Time Box Office. She's
got the game of selling sports. She looks like Beyonce knows,
and she plays like she's Kevin Durant.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Dennis Robbins.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
She's all over the place. She's a great player, but
she's a great saleswoman of the league, and she knows
what she's doing. And we enjoyed her just as much
as Kaitlyn Clark. So you got to give her flowers.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Too, all right, And I want to do add one thing.
Uh Time Magazine in twenty twenty five. This came out
in April. Caitlin Clark wasn't even on the list of
the one hundred most influential people. Somehow they left her
off the list completely. This is the person who has
the biggest uh Q rating and she's bigger than she
(35:24):
was left off a top one hundred list by Time magazine.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Article where she was second where Otani was second.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
No I'm giving you how she was left off, which
is second or third? She was left off of They lifted,
They lifted. They listed one hundred people most influential.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
That's crazy. Do you think that's a hundred? Yeah, I
think it's right. I just it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
One hundred when nobody would spending that much immediate time
on something that wasn't somebody who didn't warrant it.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Come on, now, how did one hundred people are better
than well more than Caitlin Claw?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
And I still.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Can't find this article, Rob g. Have you been able
to find it? Yes, we're old. Tani is behind Michael
Jordan because the Tiger Woods leave Earth?
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Did Tom Brady lead Earth? Did Lebron leave Earth? Okay?
Because I haven't found it either.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Well, I just gave you what you just I just
gave you this for a top one hundred.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
You're influential.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I don't even know how that's even possible that she
didn't even make the list.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Time for tom magazine.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
She was the Athlete of the Year in twenty twenty four,
but in twenty twenty five she's not in the top
one hundred.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Wow you sound.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I'm just just saying, all right, what's tomorrow and Wednesday?
We doing tomorrow Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:45):
The flags gotta go? The flag football. We didn't even
talk about that also.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
We got the halftime of this game where the Timberwolves,
I tell you what, Timberwolves should be there up for
forty eight, forty four. But I would be a little
upset that I'm wasting one of the best Julius rand
halves of his life.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
You're on the.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Road, You'll take a lead. You don't want to get
buried on the road. This is a great start for
the Timberwolves. They're not gonna blow out the thunder. They
have a great defense. Why would you be looking at
it going I'm mad, I'm down.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
By four, I'm up. I'm saying I want to make sure.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
But but you're going on the road.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Because that if I if I got Julius Randall, hey
was he had six threes.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
He's got five to threes, six of eight shooting all
Timberwolves not named Julius Randall shooting nine for thirty.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Five the first half.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
The reason why they're winning, though, is because SGA, who
is their hub offensively, you know, k s two for
thirteen shooting in the first that's a bad.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And I could tell he was nervous that his first
shot was a three. Uh or well at least maybe
not for but one of his first couple of shots,
and he hit all backboard. It wasn't a pressure shot,
it wasn't a running the clocks running out. He hit
nothing but the phone. I was like, Okay, he's a
little nervous. He understands, you know, big game. I expected
to bounce back second half too, like he did. Uh
in Game seven was a twenty three combined thirty for
(37:57):
eighty three between the two teams and the first half.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I just think a lot of rebounds to be had
in Oklahoma City right now.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, so much soda Dennis Robin pad ten last night tonight.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
He just naturally has them.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
If they're nervous, they're nervous. It is a big game
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