Rob and Kelvin debate whether Shedeur Sanders has a legitimate chance to earn the Cleveland Browns QB1 job before the season starts and explain why sports fans seem so indifferent towards the Oklahoma City Thunder. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NFL insider Adam Caplan swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the NFL. Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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But let's go here, Rob g. What a little news
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about Shador Sanders and we all wishing Diana speed.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, have they said any specific you're still.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, it's kind of out there, and uh yeah, he's
had some issues. You had to lose a couple of
toes from blood clots in the past and different things
going on.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
But his leg all cut up to you. He's been
through a lot those toes. When they showed it was
did you ever see it?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh? Man? How did you get? Like? It was so black?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I just couldn't like when I saw it, I was like,
oh my god, how did it get to that point?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's been rough?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
That's why I Have you ever seen him just a little, little,
little lamp in the walks.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's what it is. He's missing toes on one of
a couple of toes, definitely.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
But Shadoor, yeah, well, while wishes to coach Prime, hopefully
he gets a very soon, we see him back and boulder. Well, no,
do back on his feet with both feet relatively quickly.
But Shador Sanders, guys, it's much the same as what
we saw in their voluntary mini camp. Because you'll recall
we talked about on this show day one of Shador
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during rookie Mini caamp lit it up seven of nine,
three touchdowns, zero picks. Today, during their first practices of
mandatory OTAs with the full squad in tow, Shador did
it again ten of twelve, two touchdowns, no picks, easily
the best numbers of any of the quarterbacks who practice
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on Tuesday. The only problem, Ald is a little caveat
to that. What is that one add no point during
the voluntary mini camp or during the mandatory mini camp
has Shador worked with the first unit. In fact, of
the four quarterbacks on their roster, Shadour, Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco,
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Kenny Pickett, Sanders is the only one who still has
not gotten a single rep with the ones, according to
multiple outlets.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
If that doesn't tell you all you need to know,
Like the idea of him. I hear some guys even
on this radio network talking about he should be to
start from day one. You're not gonna be to start
from day one, Kelvin. If you're not even getting reps with.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The first team. Let's just be honest, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And this is a clear sign of where the Browns
are thinking, Like the idea that he's not getting any
and wasn't it just Flacco didn't even.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Get any reps right and limited?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, he could have got in there or maybe got
a call, like you don't have to go and give
him all the reps, but no reps at either one
of the voluntary and the involunteer and not like no
first team reps at all. Like you're not going to
make it as a starting quarterback from there. And if
you're not lighting up the third and fourth string, then
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you're in trouble. You better be ten for twelve with
two touchdowns against a lot of guys who'll be working
at all State Farm and different places pretty soon. Enterprise, Yeah, enterprise,
car Redder, I'm not knocking a job. But you know
what I'm saying, they won't be in the NFL. Everybody
at camp is not going to be any the NFL.
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That's not how it works. So, you know, I think
the reports have been misleading. A lot of people haven't
even talked about who he's facing and who he's playing against,
and it matters. And and I think that this is
where the Browns are. This is where they drafted them Kelvin,
so this to me makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They're not punishing him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
This is where he was drafted, and this is where
they look at him. As far as progression, He's you know,
getting his reps and then eventually, depending on what happens
with people ahead of him so far into depth trap,
something can happen. I'm not rooting against him at all.
I'm just saying people who are pushing him aren't being
honest with where he is and who's he playing against.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's all. I think.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What's what we're seeing is the delight from the organization
from a few of his teammates so far is what
we've been getting reporting, And you're getting people who are
extremely excited about I think they're getting a better grasp
of his personality.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We had some of the players come out.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Some of the folks in the personnel department have already said, man,
he's super confident, but not in the cockyway some other players.
Oh man, he's the joy to be around. And then
he's doing what he's always done, which, if you remember,
he had a seventy four percent completion percentage last year.
Just to be he's beating. He is throwing the ball
and throwing it accurately. So really, to me, from the
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things that we're hearing, personality, great, he's confident, he's accurate.
To me, it just sounds like Shador Sanders, and he's
doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing. He seems
to have the right output. He already said, what's behind
me is behind me. I got drafted fifth round. What
are you gonna do? It's already over and my job
is to go out there and compete and play and
put all the noise behind me. So he's checking off
to me, rob every box you can do? Right, you
(06:43):
come in? Are you on time? You got your playbook?
Are you studying up?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Check? Are you guys? You know? Like, oh man, he's good,
he's joy to be around. He's a good kid. Check.
Is he accurate as heck? And dicing these people up? Check?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And to me, what you do is you do your
job so that when those ahead of you. Joe Flacco's veteran.
That's why he's not getting a lot of reps right now.
They already said he's getting very minimal with the first
round because you already know who he is. You know
who Joe Black. This is what seventeenth year something like that.
You know what Joe Flacco is? Uh, can he pick it? Okay?
Do you feel like the Steelers let him go too early?
(07:15):
Is there still something on that and that? I think
that's who they want their starter to be. So you're saying,
let's really give him the rest because this is who
we think our game one started, a week one start
is gonna be. But I'm looking if I'm should do it,
I'm gonna keep playing well, keep doing my part.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Not because I.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Get what he's doing. The news is that he's not
getting any first team reps.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But this is what I'm going. I'm thinking, I'm thinking
that's coming. I'm thinking you're gonna because Joe Flacco eventually,
I think you just literally, all right, we got him.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We're good on that good.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And I think if guys keep performing, even if they're
just mediocre, and you keep performing exceptional, even against the
third stringers as you're supposed to, I think they go,
we'll give him a shot.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You know, he ain't saying he start, but just give
him a few with the runs.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
How you got people saying he's gonna start on opening
days and then you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Gonna start opening down?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Does he does he stay the starter past week three, four, five, seas,
we'll see can he pick it down?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Really going to be the starter from week one? I
think that's I think.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
A conversation that I don't think misguided is that he
could be your best player, but you're still not going
to start him.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, that that makes none That makes no sense. I
totally disagree with that thinking. It makes no sense because
if you're a coach trying to win, you're going to
pick the best player. Stop it, stop this whole idea. No,
it doesn't. It's just like Matt Flynn with Seattle, Russell
Wilson showed up. They paid Matt Flinn a ton of
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money and they could have easily sent Matt Flinn's the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Russell Wilson could wait.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
They watched the kid Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. Sometimes
somebody shows up and they're good. And if he does,
if you're a coach and you're really running a fair
and accurate and allowing the best players to play, you're
not gonna.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not play Chador for any other reason. If he's better than.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Kenny Pickett right right now, he should be the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I just don't think it's that simple. I think, I do,
I hear you. I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I think if Kenny Pickett, who was played a couple
more years and who if they're near each other, or
if the Chador is even slightly above, maybe he's had
more of an electric arm, maybe he's been more better
completion pits, maybe he's more uh shows more, the group
shows more excitement with him. I think you're still gonna
run Kenny Pickett again. Joe makes no sense to me.
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And I think you're gonna look at Daniel grape Gabriel
because of where they got them, what you had to
give up, where you're drafted them. And I think shardor Sanders,
if i'm him, I want to make your decision difficult.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I want to be the absolute best player. It does.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
We're not a single person on this organization doesn't go,
oh god, he's the best player out there, and I
want to force your hand.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Start with that makes no sense if he really was
the best player quarterback sports, I just I'm saying, Matt,
Matt Flynn. They gave him a gazillion dollars off the Lions, right, Seriously,
he was supposed to be there. Oh my god, we
got Matt Flynn from Green Bay. You see him set
the all time touchdown record against the line. He looked
(10:16):
a bit fantastic, and they thought they got their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And this kid shows up, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And they didn't flinch because you gotta play the best player.
If Chador is the best player, he's gotta play. I
don't care what Kenny picking his.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Game. First team reps tells you. Where they view him.
It's all off said, right, and that's just where they
view him.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
As we sit here very early in this in the offseason,
and I'm saying, as the off season goes along, I'm trying, you're.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Talking about all seasons. It's just practice.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is it really the end of the world and let
him get a couple of reps with the first team.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's That's what I'm trying to tell you. They have
unusually amount of quarterbacks. Most teams have three. They got four,
maybe five. So I'm saying is as you work each
day to potentially each week, you start moving up to
nine and maybe you get a few. And I just think,
but if I'm him, I'm absolutely wanting to force your
hand to go, Man, this dude, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh, we tried.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He looks good, he looks great, the arm is great,
the stronger than we thought. He's accurate, the guys love him.
He's in his playbook, smartest heck. And I'm forcing him
because I don't if I'm looking at that line, I'm
looking at the guys ahead of me, and there's not
a single guy ahead of me that I go, you
know what I mean. He's not walking in with Pat mahomes,
Lamar Jackson, Josh Edwell, oh shoot, let me go and
get this clipboard. For a few years, I'm walking in
(11:34):
saying that it's not a single dude in front of me.
There's not a single dude ahead of me other than
Joe Fla who was his experience.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But I'm not talking about his mindset. You just go
out and play.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I'm talking about the Browns, but I haven't been able
to find get the right quarterback they have Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
They ran him out.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Even that he agreed. I won a playoff game. He
beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. They won like the eleven or
twelve game during the regular season. Then they got rid
of j and then he got hurt, and then they
blamed it that he played with an injury, and they
they they got rid of them.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Don't I don't even understand it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm saying, there's no reason if he's lighting it up
and everybody's all he's accurate, all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I want to see some reps against better comp. I don't.
That's what if I'm a coach. I just don't. What
am I waiting for.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's practice, it is, and I'm thinking it very well
could come. I think it's still early right now. I
think they have a home that depth target. Their depth
of the quarterback is insane right now. They drafted two
guys around two rounds ahead of each other, apart from
each other, like they have so many quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think it could get there.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
But I don't see a guy on that roster that
I feel like if i'm him like that, I can't
be better than Himparently.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
They do because they won't give him any reps.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Because right it's political. You're the fifth round right now,
Joe the veteran. I think it's than you. Gabriel was
drafted ahead of you, But don't you have to earn it?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think I think that's too easy. It's truth.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's not the truth because people are fighting for their jobs.
If you're the GM and you're the coach, you kiss
sit and that. I brought this guy in. I traded
for him, I got, I broke picking in. That's literally
the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
If I if I'm one of my GAM I brought
his quarterback, this point guard I just coached. It just
happens all the time. I gotta we talked about I
gotta ride out this coach. I gotta ride out this
player because I brought him in. We drafted this kid
first round. We're gonna ride this scene. Let me see,
I gotta.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I got a great kid who can finally solidify the
quarterback position to be a star, and I'm not gonna
play him.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I don't buy that, Rob. You can watch them too
long and don't think that happens all the time. We
got this picture, we went wet house up. I don't
believe it. Not I for a star shows up.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't will disagree. You might like like he's pretty good,
or you think he's good.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'm not about to be Patrick Mahomes right now. I
don't think it's too early than any of that. But
we often see where I have to ride someone out
because I drafted him, I hired the coach I hired,
brought this guy, I traded for him. We're gonna ride
this thing. I just think the fifth round. Everywhere they believe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's what they believe, and that's why they're not giving
them any reps. All right, America hates the thunder and
we've got the proof.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I hate to say it. That's coming up next.
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
There's my girl right there. This yeah, what's this? Well?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
This is Stevie Nicks part of Oh I thought I
was on a bad mask. She's she's on a I
was a part of Fleetwood magn I don't I know that.
I was just telling them I'm gonna go to Vegas
to go see her.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think you were telling me that. Yeah. Wait, so
you got.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Son Seinfeld, Stevie Nicks, and of course Rob G says
you're not going to see any black artists.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm like, hey, Rob G, I won't go to bring it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Why, I'm just saying, June Teen's coming up, you better
go see somebody.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Do you know what June teen think?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You know what Rob said why he didn't want to
go to a black artist that he don't feel safe.
He said, you know what kind of crowds?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Rob G? I like to put my money out. I
can't do it there. Is that what you're saying? Everybody's
got the Timberling's on. It's just uncomfortable. This stare too
hard at my Travis Scott's I'm gonna need to hire
security guard.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You lucky. I know you. If I didn't know you,
I went to James Brown. Are you kidding? I can
give you a thousand?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You know my car's have already been broken into three times.
You know that I will not be going to know
what hip hop show. Let me staring on typing them
like that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Rob I'm I'm about to run off about ten people.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm just I'm just going because i like the artists,
and that's why I'm going to see Seinfeld, which I've
never seen. And I'm going to see Stevie Nicks. I've
always liked her music.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's what's the next thing you're going to say? Show?
It could be comedian the game if they ain't black,
robb G. We gonna know something. What's the next thing?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Then?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm also going to a comedy club in d C
in July with my best friend Fred and his white Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You're gonna in DC? Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You can't avoid black people in DC. I'm sure maybe
there's Chocolate City. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You got in d C? All right, rob G, we
might be all right, We might be all right?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What we got to little concerned there for a minute.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
All right, we got to talk about the ratings. We
were talking about it, kind of speculating what the ratings
might actually be for the We were right yeah, and unfortunately,
if you're the NBA, you had the ratings, wasn't rating
They went down again, you're looking at an average of
I think it was eight point seven eight point seventy
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six million viewers on it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now that shocking.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
From the standpoint of Game one was exciting, and you
would have thought a couple of people would have been like, oh,
maybe a series and I want to I want to
peek in for Game two, which was on a Sunday,
and people still didn't watch. Just shocking to me, seriously,
after game one, what a dramatic ending.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what my point was.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
When we were first talking about the day after the game,
thought maybe Halliburn's been on a run. You say this,
you talk about the what you call on the Windiana Pacers.
Maybe this is a team of destiny. I thought that
might have Lord. Again, I'm not that expected to jump
up to fourteen million people out of the blue, but
I thought more people might check in. They thought maybe
the thunder were just gonna bow them away. The Pacers
win game one on the road, you thought you draw
(17:30):
some viewers and not the case.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You started to dive deeper in these numbers.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Man, So they're down twenty nine percent from last year
the Maverick Celtics, which had a twelve point three million
viewers and in the least watch game two of the
finals since the heat Lakers in the bubble, what's a game,
We're excusing the bubble because the bubble was a crazy
time in the entire world right now.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What was so funny was people were trapped at home
and didn't watch TV.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Remember, the ratings went down forever.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Everything We're people were outside, people guarding, people found nanking,
they found oh I liked.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It, but they weren't watching TV, which was but they
were a lot of streaming.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
We were watching Tiger King and last day it was
a bunch of streaming went crazy because people were just
at home. People found new hobbies. People started hiking, making
sourdough bread. That was a crazy time and all the.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Cleaned out everything. I believe I just went through.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I was like, I'm not gonna waste this time without
getting something done and accomplished.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, a lot of people will found new hobbies with that.
So but this is this is down again. You know
you the Pacers Thunderfinals. Now ranks is the only second
of the Nielsen People Meter era in which neither Game
one nor two hit the nine million part mark, which
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Now, the NBA tried to spin it. You knew they
were gonna spend it, and they talked about it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
They said nearly uh okay, nearly half of all eighteen
to thirty four year olds watched TV. If they were
watching TV, they were watching Game one and Game two.
And the NBA also generated more than one billion views
and counting across social media, which is an NBA record
for two games. So there is a new and young
people that gives them a silver lining and giving them
a little hope. But my point to this Rob one
(19:09):
of the things I think that is challenging this for say,
for looking for the Thunder is I think the Thunder are.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A really, really good collegiate team.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And what I mean is they got a bunch of
guys that it doesn't matter I can play five minutes,
play twenty five minutes. I'm just there to do what's
best for the team. They got a bunch of guys
you really don't know their names, Sga being really the
only one chat obviously, but even way Chet plays, it's
still part of the team. It's a part of the goal.
He could have twelve points, he could have twenty. And
they don't have that dynamic duo. They don't have the
(19:37):
Kobe Jordan, the Shaka Kobe, the Kareem, the Magic, the
burd McHale.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
They don't have anything like that.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And they're just a really good team with a bunch
of guys who are hungry, who play different roles. And
you can't be as successful as far as notoriety and
visibility if Alex Caruso at times is your second best
or most second most notable player. Alex Caruso can't be
that Rob and wolvers due respect to him. Alex Crusso
is a heck of a player, great role player, he
(20:04):
can't be your second most talked about player, right, you know?
And to draw luster if people want to go to
Buffalo Wild Wings and watch a game, Alice Crusso has
to be your fourth fifth best player and talked about
player in this team a lot of games. He might
even be the first talked about Alex Crusoe. Great we
was playing great defense on yoga. Alex Crusso had twenty
and then in the game again in the NBA Finals.
(20:27):
That can't be and they need They just don't have
that punch. And it's a compliment to the way they
play in which is guys are all there and it's competitive.
It's a team atmosphere, but it ain't helping when it
comes to notoriety making people want to watch. You gotta
have some star power and you gotta have a nickname
at some point too.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's something, all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Funks.
You should start lining up for trash talking, Oh right.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Get it in now, getting cold seven seven ninety nine
on Fox if you want to get on trash talking Tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So we don't want to hear Robin. I don't want
to hear that. I tried to call I couldn't get in.
Call it now. We got Adam Kaplan on the other side.
Right now. What's trending with Steve the Sacred? Hey Steve.
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Speaker 4 (21:13):
All right, Steve, thank you so much appreciating it is
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We don't have we do? We got them? Okay, Adam,
I bad, I didn't even see that. All right? We
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NFL insider Kaplin NFL. That's why is why he sounds
so good right there joining us now, Adam, what's going on, ma,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Always good to be with you on the odd couple,
No doubt, my man. We appreciate you. And let's start
in Pittsburgh. We want to start there. No real surprise,
I get Rogers. He didn't want to sign early and
then miss out on going the thing and become a distraction.
And he said he wanted to take his time. To me,
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it all sounds right, and it sounds like people now
who even maybe questioned him coming there and all this
stuff for different. Once you get in camp and you're
ready to start playing again.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, he's there for the three day mandatory camp. He
did ready to work with DK Metcalf and he may
be working with a lot of the past targets in
the off season here for five weeks. He's might be
inviting him out to California. That's kind of what the
word around the team is. So yeah, they're glad to
get him in there. The question really going forward here
is the Steelers is how much better can they be?
Russell Wilson wildly inconsistent in my report I had back
(22:42):
in January, is at Arthur Smith or offense coordinator, won
a bench Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
He was told no.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
So that did end well with Russell Wilson. They wanted
to bring back, by the way, justin fields, it just
didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
They didn't want to make a big commit a commitment
to him.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well the stuff there, I want to go.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I want to go there, sure, because he's a young
now bounced around as his third team in three years,
and I got a side with this Steelers here who
wouldn't commit to him because he's a young kid with
some talent? Right, Okay, why is this happening to him?
Why did he you know, won't people commit to saying
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you're the quarterback, you're a young guy could be here
for a long time and the Steelers wouldn't even do it.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Why, Well, the Steelers want to give him sort of
like a one year structure.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
That's what they typically do.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
The Jets gave him a two year deal with ten
million fully guaranteed it out of the twenty million a
year two. That's really a two year commitment. That's a
pretty good structure. They guaranteed thirty million over two years.
The Steelers weren't willing to come close to that. So
that's where they're at. And what do people.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Say about him as just a player? I don't see
him as a He doesn't throw the football well enough
for me.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
The fields has gotten major issues with processing. It's it's.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
He's just never been a consistent quarterback. For The frustrating
thing with him is this rob Every once in a
WHI I go, holy smokes, what a game he had,
and then he just can't see the broadside of a
bar and he just not seeing the field well, inaccurate,
bailed from the pocket, not sure of what he's seeing. Now,
you're right, he's very young. He's just twenty six years old,
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right like that. That's the point of this. I mean
he's a quarterback. So the hope here's with the Jets
and they're gonna run Tanner Angsterra. Their offensive coordinator came
from Detroit, so it's a very quarterback friendly offense. You
saw what they did with Jared goff Or reclaiming his career,
so let's see what happens with fields here. Their feeling
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is they've got enough around him. They've rebuilt their offensive
one the Jets, by the way, I feel like their
offensive line is gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
But yeah, the problem is getting back the Steelers rub
before we move on. This is a one year solution.
This is the way that they were going to go
at it. They don't know who their quarterback is. And
if you really look at it, right, why is Mike
Tomlin not won a playoff gains his twenty sixteen He's
only five since then quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger retired.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Simple, I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This is why he needs to win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
He really does. So what does that do though, Adam?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
If you win a playoff game, and obviously let's just
say you win one and you lose the next round,
I don't think this is a super Bowl team. Why
why aren't they trying to build long term? Is one
of the questions I have. And also now that they
have Aaron Rodgers in there, they got rid of pickings
and they Najie Harris is gone. What is this offense?
What is it going to be pass friendly? He's gonna
be running? What do you make of the right?
Speaker 7 (25:28):
No, it's no, it's I mean they've been They've been
a run first team for going back five or six decades.
They'll never change as long as the Ronne's own it.
There's no chance over be a passing offense unless it's
a situation where they're knocking enough for running back. There
were a tough years and when they threw the ball
more than they won with Ben because they simply did
didn't feel like they could run the ball enough with
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the running game. Some years, yeah they did, but they
didn't want to do that. They are so run centric.
They want to be physical with the run game and
they want to And Caleb Johnson, who's the third round
running back from Iowa, they expected to be their starter
right now he's not.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He's got to be l Jalen Warren as the veteran.
He's back in a one year deal.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
No, it's it's about the run game and win with defense,
and that's what they want to do. But I want
to get on your question, which is good and what's
the story. Why can't they get it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Right of quarterback?
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Look, they've missed on some right, they missed. The big
one was missing Kenny Pickett. That set them back. And
why didn't they go for quarterback early?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
They didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
As I was told, I kept saying on an FSR
on the weekends, they were not on these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Man, they were not on Shuder Sanders.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
They didn't like these guys and they were not going
to force to see they forced it with Kenny Pickett. Now,
what you probably don't realize that was with the the
Kevin Culvert, the previous general manager. That was his last
class and Kenny Pickett was his guy and it did
not work out in Kenny Pickett's now with his third team.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, you missed sometimes and that that could set you
back for years. Out of Kaplin, our guest Fox Sports Radio,
NFL Insider Captain NFL and X help me.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
With the Bengals who defend last year, we Kelvin and
I we watched Joe Burrow throw and I keep saying
it because it's mind boggling. He threw nine touchdowns against
the Ravens and didn't win either game. Okay, and yeah, defensively,
what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Like they bad?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, and but they keep signing wide receivers and Joe
all the money.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Where's the defense? How do they go to?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
I agree, I've said this from day one. Until they
start committing to their offensive line of defense, they're not
going anywhere. Look, they did make it to a super
Bowl against the Rams. That was a pretty good achievement.
They overachieved. Defensive league was big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
now they were not competitive defensively last season. That's why
lou Ana Romo that with fired their defense coordinators. Now
the Colts defensive coordinator. They brought it out Golden a
(27:45):
former college head coach. He's been in an NFL system before.
He's back in the league.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Now.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Trey Hendrickson's holding out, he's withholding services. He's vastly underpaid.
You know, they they want to get a deal done
with them. They've tried, but they're nowhere close. But they've
Here's another folks, here's another thing. Right, which I think
this has been lost in some people. So Sam Hubbard,
their other starting defensive end, he retired.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Retired.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, okay, that was a big one.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
The other part about this is right, Miles Murphy has
not worked out their first round pick from twenty twenty three.
He has been a disappointment from Clemson's That's another part
of this. Like they're really really thin on the d
line right now at ed edge. Secondary wives are very mediocre.
It's just a bit.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's it's a when you look at the talent level
on defense, it's it's below the standard. They're not going anywhere, right.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Homes, no them, dinner, maybe a show, but they're not
going anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Now. They're gonna have to score thirty five to forty
points a game. That's what they're hoping it. Look, they're
just gonna have to be the greatest showing turf two
point zero. Adam Levy just stay in the same division.
Seems like all the headlines coming out of there. A
little bit, we go to Cleveland and Schnor Sanders, Rob
and I both agree he's doing what he was supposed
to do as far as lighting up against Thirstream, So
(29:00):
I'd be careful when you see highlights of training camp.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
To no right exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So where we're agreed, we agree on that that it's
a bit over sold. But what what do you make
of They have so many quarterbacks right now to get
two or three, it's ridiculous. How does this work out?
How does his five? By the way, yeah five, they
have five? It's a joke or just d Watson is
not going to play the season. So here's here's the deal.
(29:25):
So they're going to go to training camp, They're going
to open up the competition. My money would be on
Joe Flacco. Two years ago. He was incredible. I was
really insane. He was throwing with his kids, comes off
his couch and because like he carried them to the plots.
And last year with INDI didn't play as well.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He's forty years old.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Kenny Pickett's a blow average passer. Dylan Gabriel's really small.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Senior Bowl week was just okay, probably a little bit overdrafted.
And Sanders is super gifted.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
We know this.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
He's just got to be committed. Here's what I'll tell you.
What does that mean though? Be committed? Here's what I'm
going to tell you that's what I I said it because
I'm gonna get to this. I'm can explained to you.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
He's got to show that he's about everything. Okay, like it.
Just because you're the son of a former player, Hall
of Fame player doesn't make you a great player on
the field. With Colorado, he was you should not have
got out of the second round. The tape was good enough,
as I was told, but the commitment to doing everything
that you're supposed to do with teams were not satisfied.
They were turned off by his interviews.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I can't tell you how like I did when this
stuff came out for the draft, I was like, all right,
you know, I'm gonna look into this. There's too many
people putting out there that are that are responsible. And
then I'm getting it from coaches. Yeah, he had an
interview with it. He seemed like he was indifferent, didn't care.
We gave him homework, went ready, I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like this really, I was like, wow, I didn't see.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Here's the thing you never heard about this last year,
like during the season, but then the draft process, it
was like it was almost like, guys, he was trying
to tank. He's like, you know, I don't want to
go to that team. I don't go to that team,
so I'm not gonna interview. Well that's almost like the
way it was happening, So let's just see.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
But let's put it out there. He's more gifted than Pickett.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
He's more gift than Gabriel Deshaun Watson can't play anymore. Right,
Joe Flacco's forty. Like now, there's also gonna be some
point in Flacco wins it. He's not going to start
the whole season. There's gonna be a point where they're
out of the playoff race, which they will be, and
they're gonna go why would you play Picket? He's I mean,
Pickett's on the last serious deal he's got. He doesn't
have a future there. That's when you might as well
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play stander.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, that's my issue is it should be Sanders because
of all the other guys and the idea that he
can't even get first team reps that's coming.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
This says relaxed, So we're not telling them. That's what
you're telling them? All right, Adam Kaplin, thank you as always.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Man, appreciate you. We'll do it again soon, all right.
Trash talking Tuesday. See guys already call them my goodness
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I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying your daughter,
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read a diploma?
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Do you know what it even says on this or not?
We don't move these areas and be putting in some
good schools. They better be you better be h.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You're one to talk at what you're talking about all
and we're not dealing with you right now. It's time
now for trash talking Tuesday. We're about to trash talk
all of these people. Don't you talk about me.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Draggy, I don't know whether to smile. Lets you kick
a field goal man, let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh yeah, going a blind Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you're trashing,
blind Seahawks fan.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
We gotta go.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Bum trashing the Cincinnati Bengals bron But before, but before.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
I get into that, I just gotta say, I'm you're
all making me feel old because I never had no
graduating kindergarten thing going on. They just said, yo, go
to the summer, little bro, enjoy your time. The first
trade Bundy, Hey.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I would I would listen.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I'm with you, okay, because that way I ain't got
to show up and do make a big deal of it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
But but that's not the case.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
They awful work. Yeah it's crazy, but I want to
you know, the Bengals. This is getting to a point
where if you don't pay Trey Hendrickson and you don't
get any sort of defense going, you're gonna lose your
star player, Joe Burrow, because he deserves a lot better.
And I think he knows that because he came out
on the record today saying, hey, look, we need to
pay Trey Hendrickson. He basically said he's tired of it.
And it was his offensive line at first game, and
(34:00):
offensive line we saw him get injured. They kind of
fake that. Now it's the defense, which you can argue
is maybe a little bit more important because you know
what they say, defense wins championship.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
So begles.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
If you guys don't pay Trey Hendrickson soon and don't
figure out that defense, Joe Burrow will be gone in
three years.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
There you go appreciate it. What about Mace in San Diego?
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Who you trashing Mace.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Rich Eisen for making the idiogy decision to return to
that garbage network known as ESPN. What the hell is
wrong with you? Rich? ESPN is the CNN of sports networks,
fake news, This network for Petswaight's left leaning, woke ideology
and then it's an absolute to scrape to humanity. But
this garbage network takes money to idiots like Tony Kornheiser,
Michael Wilbloon, Kensrick Perkins, and Ryan Clark. It's a stone
(34:46):
even paying a dime to editing imbeciles here, have a
reason why I've given up in humanity. Make sure I'll
be reduced to being full time Walmart creaders in order
to work at ESPN. It's a prerequisite you get castrated
to have left leaning political ideology. ESPN has the audacity
of charge.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Twenty nine dollars nine with the months.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Of their app the highest parts of any app out there,
a complete rip off. I freaking heat that garbage network.
They might be stuck with fight with my being. He
wasn't just you rich. You shouldn't wink up together and
become contestants when the game so that suitable of your caliber.
Having said that, oh five, you need to be reoccurring
contestants con roopholes Dragrey.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wow, unbelievable. Man, surprised that Mace even knows what that is.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
I'm oh, oh, that's a good point there.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Right Ken in California, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Who you trashing, Ken.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Wal Kevin, you was right yesterday I got off Robin's
wagon yesterday he was shopping bargains again he would let
her take Arren Rogers, then Matthew Stafford. While that comes
from a guy who doesn't less from Rocks, who bits pennies,
cut Kip on clipper by one, get one paint with
(35:52):
Calvin's Humphrey, come.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Out, Thank you for coming back on my side. Ken
Ken Is like, hey, he's a flip flyer. Which you
think I got the weak or you got him like
ten days back? Kevin, I'll tell your Cob is right. Unbelievable.
Shout out the kid. All right, Mitch, Mitch Enjoys. You're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who are you trash?
And Mitch?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
What's I'm trashing?
Speaker 10 (36:17):
The Dodgers or front door?
Speaker 8 (36:19):
They got rid of some of their weeks.
Speaker 11 (36:21):
Month he was on a ball line.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
He's he's a rose, but you gotta get rid of Corforo.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
He's got.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Get him out of here.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Let's bring in both ship Bonos, base for he can hit.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
All right, all right, there we go. There you have
it one last night they did it also didn't be
in New Jersey. I didn't expect that he's a big
Brooklyn doctor fan of something. He's a big l A guy.
He used to call the local station a m. Five
to seven about he's a Clippers fan. I don't know
what's l A. I don't know A shout out to
anybody else, got anyone anybody got in the uh trash talking.
(36:58):
I'm trashing poor Korea. No, I want to trash w
NBA player.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I can't say your name right, said too Sabali because
she went viral over the weekend, ripping into the WNBA
commissioner because the Phoenix Mercury had to play get this nine.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Games in eighteen days? God forbid? You work every other day?
Speaker 6 (37:18):
You know?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Unlast I checked, I could be wrong, but the average
NBA team plays about fourteen to fifteen games a month,
which averages out to a game every other day, and they.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Only play like thirty five forty games in the WNBA.
Come on, really, really, the rest of the year, you.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Can go do whatever you might gonna take you seriously,
if you're not taking yourself seen and you mean that's
another thing.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You had the investigation and the profanity. Listen, there's some
real things are going on. But some of the stuff
you want, you know, you want to it to be
more real conversations like you'll see the game, or do
you see that buzzer beach and they went to three
for nine and some of that kind of stuff. Although
they might trash talk you Rob Parker, you know, you
keep wanting to talk about their.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Ratings going down, Alex. We got the let's we got
to draw Parker. We got the Rod Parker ratings. Uh
you saw those ratings. We got the w rating. God
having it they wanted. They called me, they said, we
need you to trash talk. Still less than when she's
the one. They got two million, no less viewers almost
(38:19):
what hour, almost two million without Kaitlin. They thought she
was playing because it was.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Putting up NBA finals numbers.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
They're putting up NBA finals. They told me to trash
you stop talking about us. They said, oh, let me read.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The text they sent me. I'm just giving you the
real facts. Tell Rod, we.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Said, stop talking reckless. We don't want to have to
come see him and put cheesecake on his face. That's
what they said right there. Nearly two million viewers. It's
like Nancy the Sky and Fever Without Caitlin, class's like
Nancy Lieberman once last part of it says, take that
for data, whatever,
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But let's go here, Rob g. What a little news
(02:03):
about Shador Sanders and we all wishing Diana speed.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, have they said any specific you're still.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, it's kind of out there, and uh yeah, he's
had some issues. You had to lose a couple of
toes from blood clots in the past and different things
going on.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
But his leg all cut up to you. He's been
through a lot those toes. When they showed it was
did you ever see it?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh? Man? How did you get? Like? It was so black?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I just couldn't like when I saw it, I was like,
oh my god, how did it get to that point?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's been rough?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
That's why I Have you ever seen him just a little, little,
little lamp in the walks.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's what it is. He's missing toes on one of
a couple of toes, definitely.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
But Shadoor, yeah, well, while wishes to coach Prime, hopefully
he gets a very soon, we see him back and boulder. Well, no,
do back on his feet with both feet relatively quickly.
But Shador Sanders, guys, it's much the same as what
we saw in their voluntary mini camp. Because you'll recall
we talked about on this show day one of Shador
(03:04):
during rookie Mini caamp lit it up seven of nine,
three touchdowns, zero picks. Today, during their first practices of
mandatory OTAs with the full squad in tow, Shador did
it again ten of twelve, two touchdowns, no picks, easily
the best numbers of any of the quarterbacks who practice
(03:25):
on Tuesday. The only problem, Ald is a little caveat
to that. What is that one add no point during
the voluntary mini camp or during the mandatory mini camp
has Shador worked with the first unit. In fact, of
the four quarterbacks on their roster, Shadour, Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco,
(03:45):
Kenny Pickett, Sanders is the only one who still has
not gotten a single rep with the ones, according to
multiple outlets.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
If that doesn't tell you all you need to know,
Like the idea of him. I hear some guys even
on this radio network talking about he should be to
start from day one. You're not gonna be to start
from day one, Kelvin. If you're not even getting reps with.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The first team. Let's just be honest, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
And this is a clear sign of where the Browns
are thinking, Like the idea that he's not getting any
and wasn't it just Flacco didn't even.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Get any reps right and limited?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, he could have got in there or maybe got
a call, like you don't have to go and give
him all the reps, but no reps at either one
of the voluntary and the involunteer and not like no
first team reps at all. Like you're not going to
make it as a starting quarterback from there. And if
you're not lighting up the third and fourth string, then
(04:40):
you're in trouble. You better be ten for twelve with
two touchdowns against a lot of guys who'll be working
at all State Farm and different places pretty soon. Enterprise, Yeah, enterprise,
car Redder, I'm not knocking a job. But you know
what I'm saying, they won't be in the NFL. Everybody
at camp is not going to be any the NFL.
(05:00):
That's not how it works. So, you know, I think
the reports have been misleading. A lot of people haven't
even talked about who he's facing and who he's playing against,
and it matters. And and I think that this is
where the Browns are. This is where they drafted them Kelvin,
so this to me makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They're not punishing him.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
This is where he was drafted, and this is where
they look at him. As far as progression, He's you know,
getting his reps and then eventually, depending on what happens
with people ahead of him so far into depth trap,
something can happen. I'm not rooting against him at all.
I'm just saying people who are pushing him aren't being
honest with where he is and who's he playing against.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's all. I think.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What's what we're seeing is the delight from the organization
from a few of his teammates so far is what
we've been getting reporting, And you're getting people who are
extremely excited about I think they're getting a better grasp
of his personality.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We had some of the players come out.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Some of the folks in the personnel department have already said, man,
he's super confident, but not in the cockyway some other players.
Oh man, he's the joy to be around. And then
he's doing what he's always done, which, if you remember,
he had a seventy four percent completion percentage last year.
Just to be he's beating. He is throwing the ball
and throwing it accurately. So really, to me, from the
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things that we're hearing, personality, great, he's confident, he's accurate.
To me, it just sounds like Shador Sanders, and he's
doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing. He seems
to have the right output. He already said, what's behind
me is behind me. I got drafted fifth round. What
are you gonna do? It's already over and my job
is to go out there and compete and play and
put all the noise behind me. So he's checking off
to me, rob every box you can do? Right, you
(06:43):
come in? Are you on time? You got your playbook?
Are you studying up?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Check? Are you guys? You know? Like, oh man, he's good,
he's joy to be around. He's a good kid. Check.
Is he accurate as heck? And dicing these people up? Check?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And to me, what you do is you do your
job so that when those ahead of you. Joe Flacco's veteran.
That's why he's not getting a lot of reps right now.
They already said he's getting very minimal with the first
round because you already know who he is. You know
who Joe Black. This is what seventeenth year something like that.
You know what Joe Flacco is? Uh, can he pick it? Okay?
Do you feel like the Steelers let him go too early?
(07:15):
Is there still something on that and that? I think
that's who they want their starter to be. So you're saying,
let's really give him the rest because this is who
we think our game one started, a week one start
is gonna be. But I'm looking if I'm should do it,
I'm gonna keep playing well, keep doing my part.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Not because I.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Get what he's doing. The news is that he's not
getting any first team reps.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But this is what I'm going. I'm thinking, I'm thinking
that's coming. I'm thinking you're gonna because Joe Flacco eventually,
I think you just literally, all right, we got him.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
We're good on that good.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And I think if guys keep performing, even if they're
just mediocre, and you keep performing exceptional, even against the
third stringers as you're supposed to, I think they go,
we'll give him a shot.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You know, he ain't saying he start, but just give
him a few with the runs.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
How you got people saying he's gonna start on opening
days and then you.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Gonna start opening down?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Does he does he stay the starter past week three, four, five, seas,
we'll see can he pick it down?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Really going to be the starter from week one? I
think that's I think.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
A conversation that I don't think misguided is that he
could be your best player, but you're still not going
to start him.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, that that makes none That makes no sense. I
totally disagree with that thinking. It makes no sense because
if you're a coach trying to win, you're going to
pick the best player. Stop it, stop this whole idea. No,
it doesn't. It's just like Matt Flynn with Seattle, Russell
Wilson showed up. They paid Matt Flinn a ton of
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money and they could have easily sent Matt Flinn's the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Russell Wilson could wait.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
They watched the kid Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. Sometimes
somebody shows up and they're good. And if he does,
if you're a coach and you're really running a fair
and accurate and allowing the best players to play, you're
not gonna.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not play Chador for any other reason. If he's better than.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Kenny Pickett right right now, he should be the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I just don't think it's that simple. I think, I do,
I hear you. I don't.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I think if Kenny Pickett, who was played a couple
more years and who if they're near each other, or
if the Chador is even slightly above, maybe he's had
more of an electric arm, maybe he's been more better
completion pits, maybe he's more uh shows more, the group
shows more excitement with him. I think you're still gonna
run Kenny Pickett again. Joe makes no sense to me.
(09:33):
And I think you're gonna look at Daniel grape Gabriel
because of where they got them, what you had to
give up, where you're drafted them. And I think shardor Sanders,
if i'm him, I want to make your decision difficult.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I want to be the absolute best player. It does.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
We're not a single person on this organization doesn't go,
oh god, he's the best player out there, and I
want to force your hand.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Start with that makes no sense if he really was
the best player quarterback sports, I just I'm saying, Matt,
Matt Flynn. They gave him a gazillion dollars off the Lions, right, Seriously,
he was supposed to be there. Oh my god, we
got Matt Flynn from Green Bay. You see him set
the all time touchdown record against the line. He looked
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a bit fantastic, and they thought they got their quarterback.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And this kid shows up, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And they didn't flinch because you gotta play the best player.
If Chador is the best player, he's gotta play. I
don't care what Kenny picking his.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Game. First team reps tells you. Where they view him.
It's all off said, right, and that's just where they
view him.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
As we sit here very early in this in the offseason,
and I'm saying, as the off season goes along, I'm trying, you're.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Talking about all seasons. It's just practice.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is it really the end of the world and let
him get a couple of reps with the first team.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
That's That's what I'm trying to tell you. They have
unusually amount of quarterbacks. Most teams have three. They got four,
maybe five. So I'm saying is as you work each
day to potentially each week, you start moving up to
nine and maybe you get a few. And I just think,
but if I'm him, I'm absolutely wanting to force your
hand to go, Man, this dude, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh, we tried.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
He looks good, he looks great, the arm is great,
the stronger than we thought. He's accurate, the guys love him.
He's in his playbook, smartest heck. And I'm forcing him
because I don't if I'm looking at that line, I'm
looking at the guys ahead of me, and there's not
a single guy ahead of me that I go, you
know what I mean. He's not walking in with Pat mahomes,
Lamar Jackson, Josh Edwell, oh shoot, let me go and
get this clipboard. For a few years, I'm walking in
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saying that it's not a single dude in front of me.
There's not a single dude ahead of me other than
Joe Fla who was his experience.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But I'm not talking about his mindset. You just go
out and play.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I'm talking about the Browns, but I haven't been able
to find get the right quarterback they have Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
They ran him out.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Even that he agreed. I won a playoff game. He
beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. They won like the eleven or
twelve game during the regular season. Then they got rid
of j and then he got hurt, and then they
blamed it that he played with an injury, and they
they they got rid of them.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Don't I don't even understand it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm saying, there's no reason if he's lighting it up
and everybody's all he's accurate, all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I want to see some reps against better comp. I don't.
That's what if I'm a coach. I just don't. What
am I waiting for.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's practice, it is, and I'm thinking it very well
could come. I think it's still early right now. I
think they have a home that depth target. Their depth
of the quarterback is insane right now. They drafted two
guys around two rounds ahead of each other, apart from
each other, like they have so many quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think it could get there.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
But I don't see a guy on that roster that
I feel like if i'm him like that, I can't
be better than Himparently.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
They do because they won't give him any reps.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Because right it's political. You're the fifth round right now,
Joe the veteran. I think it's than you. Gabriel was
drafted ahead of you, But don't you have to earn it?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think I think that's too easy. It's truth.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's not the truth because people are fighting for their jobs.
If you're the GM and you're the coach, you kiss
sit and that. I brought this guy in. I traded
for him, I got, I broke picking in. That's literally
the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
If I if I'm one of my GAM I brought
his quarterback, this point guard I just coached. It just
happens all the time. I gotta we talked about I
gotta ride out this coach. I gotta ride out this
player because I brought him in. We drafted this kid
first round. We're gonna ride this scene. Let me see,
I gotta.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I got a great kid who can finally solidify the
quarterback position to be a star, and I'm not gonna
play him.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I don't buy that, Rob. You can watch them too
long and don't think that happens all the time. We
got this picture, we went wet house up. I don't
believe it. Not I for a star shows up.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't will disagree. You might like like he's pretty good,
or you think he's good.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I'm not about to be Patrick Mahomes right now. I
don't think it's too early than any of that. But
we often see where I have to ride someone out
because I drafted him, I hired the coach I hired,
brought this guy, I traded for him. We're gonna ride
this thing. I just think the fifth round. Everywhere they believe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's what they believe, and that's why they're not giving
them any reps. All right, America hates the thunder and
we've got the proof.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I hate to say it. That's coming up next.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
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Speaker 1 (14:14):
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
There's my girl right there. This yeah, what's this? Well?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
This is Stevie Nicks part of Oh I thought I
was on a bad mask. She's she's on a I
was a part of Fleetwood magn I don't I know that.
I was just telling them I'm gonna go to Vegas
to go see her.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I think you were telling me that. Yeah. Wait, so
you got.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Son Seinfeld, Stevie Nicks, and of course Rob G says
you're not going to see any black artists.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm like, hey, Rob G, I won't go to bring it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Why, I'm just saying, June Teen's coming up, you better
go see somebody.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Do you know what June teen think?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
You know what Rob said why he didn't want to
go to a black artist that he don't feel safe.
He said, you know what kind of crowds?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Rob G? I like to put my money out. I
can't do it there. Is that what you're saying? Everybody's
got the Timberling's on. It's just uncomfortable. This stare too
hard at my Travis Scott's I'm gonna need to hire
security guard.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You lucky. I know you. If I didn't know you,
I went to James Brown. Are you kidding? I can
give you a thousand?
Speaker 5 (15:32):
You know my car's have already been broken into three times.
You know that I will not be going to know
what hip hop show. Let me staring on typing them
like that.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Rob I'm I'm about to run off about ten people.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm just I'm just going because i like the artists,
and that's why I'm going to see Seinfeld, which I've
never seen. And I'm going to see Stevie Nicks. I've
always liked her music.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's what's the next thing you're going to say? Show?
It could be comedian the game if they ain't black,
robb G. We gonna know something. What's the next thing?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Then?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm also going to a comedy club in d C
in July with my best friend Fred and his white Oh.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You're gonna in DC? Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You can't avoid black people in DC. I'm sure maybe
there's Chocolate City. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You got in d C? All right, rob G, we
might be all right, We might be all right?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
What we got to little concerned there for a minute.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
All right, we got to talk about the ratings. We
were talking about it, kind of speculating what the ratings
might actually be for the We were right yeah, and unfortunately,
if you're the NBA, you had the ratings, wasn't rating
They went down again, you're looking at an average of
I think it was eight point seven eight point seventy
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six million viewers on it.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now that shocking.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
From the standpoint of Game one was exciting, and you
would have thought a couple of people would have been like, oh,
maybe a series and I want to I want to
peek in for Game two, which was on a Sunday,
and people still didn't watch. Just shocking to me, seriously,
after game one, what a dramatic ending.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what my point was.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
When we were first talking about the day after the game,
thought maybe Halliburn's been on a run. You say this,
you talk about the what you call on the Windiana Pacers.
Maybe this is a team of destiny. I thought that
might have Lord. Again, I'm not that expected to jump
up to fourteen million people out of the blue, but
I thought more people might check in. They thought maybe
the thunder were just gonna bow them away. The Pacers
win game one on the road, you thought you draw
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some viewers and not the case.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You started to dive deeper in these numbers.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Man, So they're down twenty nine percent from last year
the Maverick Celtics, which had a twelve point three million
viewers and in the least watch game two of the
finals since the heat Lakers in the bubble, what's a game,
We're excusing the bubble because the bubble was a crazy
time in the entire world right now.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What was so funny was people were trapped at home
and didn't watch TV.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Remember, the ratings went down forever.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Everything We're people were outside, people guarding, people found nanking,
they found oh I liked.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It, but they weren't watching TV, which was but they
were a lot of streaming.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
We were watching Tiger King and last day it was
a bunch of streaming went crazy because people were just
at home. People found new hobbies. People started hiking, making
sourdough bread. That was a crazy time and all the.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Cleaned out everything. I believe I just went through.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I was like, I'm not gonna waste this time without
getting something done and accomplished.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, a lot of people will found new hobbies with that.
So but this is this is down again. You know
you the Pacers Thunderfinals. Now ranks is the only second
of the Nielsen People Meter era in which neither Game
one nor two hit the nine million part mark, which
is crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Now, the NBA tried to spin it. You knew they
were gonna spend it, and they talked about it.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
They said nearly uh okay, nearly half of all eighteen
to thirty four year olds watched TV. If they were
watching TV, they were watching Game one and Game two.
And the NBA also generated more than one billion views
and counting across social media, which is an NBA record
for two games. So there is a new and young
people that gives them a silver lining and giving them
a little hope. But my point to this Rob one
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of the things I think that is challenging this for say,
for looking for the Thunder is I think the Thunder are.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A really, really good collegiate team.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And what I mean is they got a bunch of
guys that it doesn't matter I can play five minutes,
play twenty five minutes. I'm just there to do what's
best for the team. They got a bunch of guys
you really don't know their names, Sga being really the
only one chat obviously, but even way Chet plays, it's
still part of the team. It's a part of the goal.
He could have twelve points, he could have twenty. And
they don't have that dynamic duo. They don't have the
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Kobe Jordan, the Shaka Kobe, the Kareem, the Magic, the
burd McHale.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
They don't have anything like that.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And they're just a really good team with a bunch
of guys who are hungry, who play different roles. And
you can't be as successful as far as notoriety and
visibility if Alex Caruso at times is your second best
or most second most notable player. Alex Caruso can't be
that Rob and wolvers due respect to him. Alex Crusso
is a heck of a player, great role player, he
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can't be your second most talked about player, right, you know?
And to draw luster if people want to go to
Buffalo Wild Wings and watch a game, Alice Crusso has
to be your fourth fifth best player and talked about
player in this team a lot of games. He might
even be the first talked about Alex Crusoe. Great we
was playing great defense on yoga. Alex Crusso had twenty
and then in the game again in the NBA Finals.
(20:27):
That can't be and they need They just don't have
that punch. And it's a compliment to the way they
play in which is guys are all there and it's competitive.
It's a team atmosphere, but it ain't helping when it
comes to notoriety making people want to watch. You gotta
have some star power and you gotta have a nickname
at some point too.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's something, all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Funks.
You should start lining up for trash talking, Oh right.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Get it in now, getting cold seven seven ninety nine
on Fox if you want to get on trash talking Tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So we don't want to hear Robin. I don't want
to hear that. I tried to call I couldn't get in.
Call it now. We got Adam Kaplan on the other side.
Right now. What's trending with Steve the Sacred? Hey Steve.
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Speaker 4 (21:13):
All right, Steve, thank you so much appreciating it is
the odd couple. Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on a trash
talking Tuesday, by the way again eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
is the number to get ready for trash talking Tuesday
here and just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
We don't have we do? We got them? Okay, Adam,
I bad, I didn't even see that. All right? We
got our guests now. Always an out look at that fancy.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
You're right, got our guests now, Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Radio,
NFL insider Kaplin NFL. That's why is why he sounds
so good right there joining us now, Adam, what's going on, ma,
how you doing?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Always good to be with you on the odd couple,
No doubt, my man. We appreciate you. And let's start
in Pittsburgh. We want to start there. No real surprise,
I get Rogers. He didn't want to sign early and
then miss out on going the thing and become a distraction.
And he said he wanted to take his time. To me,
(22:08):
it all sounds right, and it sounds like people now
who even maybe questioned him coming there and all this
stuff for different. Once you get in camp and you're
ready to start playing again.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, he's there for the three day mandatory camp. He
did ready to work with DK Metcalf and he may
be working with a lot of the past targets in
the off season here for five weeks. He's might be
inviting him out to California. That's kind of what the
word around the team is. So yeah, they're glad to
get him in there. The question really going forward here
is the Steelers is how much better can they be?
Russell Wilson wildly inconsistent in my report I had back
(22:42):
in January, is at Arthur Smith or offense coordinator, won
a bench Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
He was told no.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
So that did end well with Russell Wilson. They wanted
to bring back, by the way, justin fields, it just
didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
They didn't want to make a big commit a commitment
to him.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well the stuff there, I want to go.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I want to go there, sure, because he's a young
now bounced around as his third team in three years,
and I got a side with this Steelers here who
wouldn't commit to him because he's a young kid with
some talent? Right, Okay, why is this happening to him?
Why did he you know, won't people commit to saying
(23:18):
you're the quarterback, you're a young guy could be here
for a long time and the Steelers wouldn't even do it.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Why, Well, the Steelers want to give him sort of
like a one year structure.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
That's what they typically do.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
The Jets gave him a two year deal with ten
million fully guaranteed it out of the twenty million a
year two. That's really a two year commitment. That's a
pretty good structure. They guaranteed thirty million over two years.
The Steelers weren't willing to come close to that. So
that's where they're at. And what do people.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Say about him as just a player? I don't see
him as a He doesn't throw the football well enough
for me.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
The fields has gotten major issues with processing. It's it's.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
He's just never been a consistent quarterback. For The frustrating
thing with him is this rob Every once in a
WHI I go, holy smokes, what a game he had,
and then he just can't see the broadside of a
bar and he just not seeing the field well, inaccurate,
bailed from the pocket, not sure of what he's seeing. Now,
you're right, he's very young. He's just twenty six years old,
(24:15):
right like that. That's the point of this. I mean
he's a quarterback. So the hope here's with the Jets
and they're gonna run Tanner Angsterra. Their offensive coordinator came
from Detroit, so it's a very quarterback friendly offense. You
saw what they did with Jared goff Or reclaiming his career,
so let's see what happens with fields here. Their feeling
(24:35):
is they've got enough around him. They've rebuilt their offensive
one the Jets, by the way, I feel like their
offensive line is gonna be pretty good.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
But yeah, the problem is getting back the Steelers rub
before we move on. This is a one year solution.
This is the way that they were going to go
at it. They don't know who their quarterback is. And
if you really look at it, right, why is Mike
Tomlin not won a playoff gains his twenty sixteen He's
only five since then quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger retired.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Simple, I mean, I get it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This is why he needs to win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
He really does. So what does that do though, Adam?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
If you win a playoff game, and obviously let's just
say you win one and you lose the next round,
I don't think this is a super Bowl team. Why
why aren't they trying to build long term? Is one
of the questions I have. And also now that they
have Aaron Rodgers in there, they got rid of pickings
and they Najie Harris is gone. What is this offense?
What is it going to be pass friendly? He's gonna
be running? What do you make of the right?
Speaker 7 (25:28):
No, it's no, it's I mean they've been They've been
a run first team for going back five or six decades.
They'll never change as long as the Ronne's own it.
There's no chance over be a passing offense unless it's
a situation where they're knocking enough for running back. There
were a tough years and when they threw the ball
more than they won with Ben because they simply did
didn't feel like they could run the ball enough with
(25:49):
the running game. Some years, yeah they did, but they
didn't want to do that. They are so run centric.
They want to be physical with the run game and
they want to And Caleb Johnson, who's the third round
running back from Iowa, they expected to be their starter
right now he's not.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He's got to be l Jalen Warren as the veteran.
He's back in a one year deal.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
No, it's it's about the run game and win with defense,
and that's what they want to do. But I want
to get on your question, which is good and what's
the story. Why can't they get it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Right of quarterback?
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Look, they've missed on some right, they missed. The big
one was missing Kenny Pickett. That set them back. And
why didn't they go for quarterback early?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
They didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
As I was told, I kept saying on an FSR
on the weekends, they were not on these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Man, they were not on Shuder Sanders.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
They didn't like these guys and they were not going
to force to see they forced it with Kenny Pickett. Now,
what you probably don't realize that was with the the
Kevin Culvert, the previous general manager. That was his last
class and Kenny Pickett was his guy and it did
not work out in Kenny Pickett's now with his third team.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, you missed sometimes and that that could set you
back for years. Out of Kaplin, our guest Fox Sports Radio,
NFL Insider Captain NFL and X help me.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
With the Bengals who defend last year, we Kelvin and
I we watched Joe Burrow throw and I keep saying
it because it's mind boggling. He threw nine touchdowns against
the Ravens and didn't win either game. Okay, and yeah, defensively,
what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Like they bad?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, and but they keep signing wide receivers and Joe
all the money.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Where's the defense? How do they go to?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
I agree, I've said this from day one. Until they
start committing to their offensive line of defense, they're not
going anywhere. Look, they did make it to a super
Bowl against the Rams. That was a pretty good achievement.
They overachieved. Defensive league was big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
now they were not competitive defensively last season. That's why
lou Ana Romo that with fired their defense coordinators. Now
the Colts defensive coordinator. They brought it out Golden a
(27:45):
former college head coach. He's been in an NFL system before.
He's back in the league.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Now.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Trey Hendrickson's holding out, he's withholding services. He's vastly underpaid.
You know, they they want to get a deal done
with them. They've tried, but they're nowhere close. But they've
Here's another folks, here's another thing. Right, which I think
this has been lost in some people. So Sam Hubbard,
their other starting defensive end, he retired.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Retired.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, okay, that was a big one.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
The other part about this is right, Miles Murphy has
not worked out their first round pick from twenty twenty three.
He has been a disappointment from Clemson's That's another part
of this. Like they're really really thin on the d
line right now at ed edge. Secondary wives are very mediocre.
It's just a bit.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's it's a when you look at the talent level
on defense, it's it's below the standard. They're not going anywhere, right.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Homes, no them, dinner, maybe a show, but they're not
going anywhere else.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Now. They're gonna have to score thirty five to forty
points a game. That's what they're hoping it. Look, they're
just gonna have to be the greatest showing turf two
point zero. Adam Levy just stay in the same division.
Seems like all the headlines coming out of there. A
little bit, we go to Cleveland and Schnor Sanders, Rob
and I both agree he's doing what he was supposed
to do as far as lighting up against Thirstream, So
(29:00):
I'd be careful when you see highlights of training camp.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
To no right exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
So where we're agreed, we agree on that that it's
a bit over sold. But what what do you make
of They have so many quarterbacks right now to get
two or three, it's ridiculous. How does this work out?
How does his five? By the way, yeah five, they
have five? It's a joke or just d Watson is
not going to play the season. So here's here's the deal.
(29:25):
So they're going to go to training camp, They're going
to open up the competition. My money would be on
Joe Flacco. Two years ago. He was incredible. I was
really insane. He was throwing with his kids, comes off
his couch and because like he carried them to the plots.
And last year with INDI didn't play as well.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He's forty years old.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
Kenny Pickett's a blow average passer. Dylan Gabriel's really small.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Senior Bowl week was just okay, probably a little bit overdrafted.
And Sanders is super gifted.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
We know this.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
He's just got to be committed. Here's what I'll tell you.
What does that mean though? Be committed? Here's what I'm
going to tell you that's what I I said it because
I'm gonna get to this. I'm can explained to you.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
He's got to show that he's about everything. Okay, like it.
Just because you're the son of a former player, Hall
of Fame player doesn't make you a great player on
the field. With Colorado, he was you should not have
got out of the second round. The tape was good enough,
as I was told, but the commitment to doing everything
that you're supposed to do with teams were not satisfied.
They were turned off by his interviews.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I can't tell you how like I did when this
stuff came out for the draft, I was like, all right,
you know, I'm gonna look into this. There's too many
people putting out there that are that are responsible. And
then I'm getting it from coaches. Yeah, he had an
interview with it. He seemed like he was indifferent, didn't care.
We gave him homework, went ready, I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like this really, I was like, wow, I didn't see.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Here's the thing you never heard about this last year,
like during the season, but then the draft process, it
was like it was almost like, guys, he was trying
to tank. He's like, you know, I don't want to
go to that team. I don't go to that team,
so I'm not gonna interview. Well that's almost like the
way it was happening, So let's just see.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
But let's put it out there. He's more gifted than Pickett.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
He's more gift than Gabriel Deshaun Watson can't play anymore. Right,
Joe Flacco's forty. Like now, there's also gonna be some
point in Flacco wins it. He's not going to start
the whole season. There's gonna be a point where they're
out of the playoff race, which they will be, and
they're gonna go why would you play Picket? He's I mean,
Pickett's on the last serious deal he's got. He doesn't
have a future there. That's when you might as well
(31:24):
play stander.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, that's my issue is it should be Sanders because
of all the other guys and the idea that he
can't even get first team reps that's coming.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
This says relaxed, So we're not telling them. That's what
you're telling them? All right, Adam Kaplin, thank you as always.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Man, appreciate you. We'll do it again soon, all right.
Trash talking Tuesday. See guys already call them my goodness
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox We'll do that
next to Siaka. But Rob and Kelvin on a trash
talk and Tuesday Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
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Speaker 4 (32:01):
Fox Sports Radio. Rob Parker Kelvin, Washington on a trash
Talking Tuesday. You playing this reminded me My baby graduated
from kindergarten Alex and we played.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
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Speaker 1 (32:25):
It is the way tire bikes.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying your daughter,
but I'm just when you graduate from kindergarten, can you
read a diploma?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Do you know what it even says on this or not?
We don't move these areas and be putting in some
good schools. They better be you better be h.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You're one to talk at what you're talking about all
and we're not dealing with you right now. It's time
now for trash talking Tuesday. We're about to trash talk
all of these people. Don't you talk about me.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
It's trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Draggy, I don't know whether to smile. Lets you kick
a field goal man, let's go.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh yeah, going a blind Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who you're trashing,
blind Seahawks fan.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
We gotta go.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Bum trashing the Cincinnati Bengals bron But before, but before.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
I get into that, I just gotta say, I'm you're
all making me feel old because I never had no
graduating kindergarten thing going on. They just said, yo, go
to the summer, little bro, enjoy your time. The first
trade Bundy, Hey.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I would I would listen.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I'm with you, okay, because that way I ain't got
to show up and do make a big deal of it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
But but that's not the case.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
They awful work. Yeah it's crazy, but I want to
you know, the Bengals. This is getting to a point
where if you don't pay Trey Hendrickson and you don't
get any sort of defense going, you're gonna lose your
star player, Joe Burrow, because he deserves a lot better.
And I think he knows that because he came out
on the record today saying, hey, look, we need to
pay Trey Hendrickson. He basically said he's tired of it.
And it was his offensive line at first game, and
(34:00):
offensive line we saw him get injured. They kind of
fake that. Now it's the defense, which you can argue
is maybe a little bit more important because you know
what they say, defense wins championship.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
So begles.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
If you guys don't pay Trey Hendrickson soon and don't
figure out that defense, Joe Burrow will be gone in
three years.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
There you go appreciate it. What about Mace in San Diego?
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Who you trashing Mace.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
Rich Eisen for making the idiogy decision to return to
that garbage network known as ESPN. What the hell is
wrong with you? Rich? ESPN is the CNN of sports networks,
fake news, This network for Petswaight's left leaning, woke ideology
and then it's an absolute to scrape to humanity. But
this garbage network takes money to idiots like Tony Kornheiser,
Michael Wilbloon, Kensrick Perkins, and Ryan Clark. It's a stone
(34:46):
even paying a dime to editing imbeciles here, have a
reason why I've given up in humanity. Make sure I'll
be reduced to being full time Walmart creaders in order
to work at ESPN. It's a prerequisite you get castrated
to have left leaning political ideology. ESPN has the audacity
of charge.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Twenty nine dollars nine with the months.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Of their app the highest parts of any app out there,
a complete rip off. I freaking heat that garbage network.
They might be stuck with fight with my being. He
wasn't just you rich. You shouldn't wink up together and
become contestants when the game so that suitable of your caliber.
Having said that, oh five, you need to be reoccurring
contestants con roopholes Dragrey.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wow, unbelievable. Man, surprised that Mace even knows what that is.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
I'm oh, oh, that's a good point there.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Right Ken in California, you're on the couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Who you trashing, Ken.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Wal Kevin, you was right yesterday I got off Robin's
wagon yesterday he was shopping bargains again he would let
her take Arren Rogers, then Matthew Stafford. While that comes
from a guy who doesn't less from Rocks, who bits pennies,
cut Kip on clipper by one, get one paint with
(35:52):
Calvin's Humphrey, come.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Out, Thank you for coming back on my side. Ken
Ken Is like, hey, he's a flip flyer. Which you
think I got the weak or you got him like
ten days back? Kevin, I'll tell your Cob is right. Unbelievable.
Shout out the kid. All right, Mitch, Mitch Enjoys. You're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Who are you trash?
And Mitch?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
What's I'm trashing?
Speaker 10 (36:17):
The Dodgers or front door?
Speaker 8 (36:19):
They got rid of some of their weeks.
Speaker 11 (36:21):
Month he was on a ball line.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
He's he's a rose, but you gotta get rid of Corforo.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
He's got.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Get him out of here.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Let's bring in both ship Bonos, base for he can hit.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
All right, all right, there we go. There you have
it one last night they did it also didn't be
in New Jersey. I didn't expect that he's a big
Brooklyn doctor fan of something. He's a big l A guy.
He used to call the local station a m. Five
to seven about he's a Clippers fan. I don't know
what's l A. I don't know A shout out to
anybody else, got anyone anybody got in the uh trash talking.
(36:58):
I'm trashing poor Korea. No, I want to trash w
NBA player.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I can't say your name right, said too Sabali because
she went viral over the weekend, ripping into the WNBA
commissioner because the Phoenix Mercury had to play get this nine.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Games in eighteen days? God forbid? You work every other day?
Speaker 6 (37:18):
You know?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Unlast I checked, I could be wrong, but the average
NBA team plays about fourteen to fifteen games a month,
which averages out to a game every other day, and they.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Only play like thirty five forty games in the WNBA.
Come on, really, really, the rest of the year, you.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Can go do whatever you might gonna take you seriously,
if you're not taking yourself seen and you mean that's
another thing.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You had the investigation and the profanity. Listen, there's some
real things are going on. But some of the stuff
you want, you know, you want to it to be
more real conversations like you'll see the game, or do
you see that buzzer beach and they went to three
for nine and some of that kind of stuff. Although
they might trash talk you Rob Parker, you know, you
keep wanting to talk about their.
Speaker 11 (37:57):
Ratings going down, Alex. We got the let's we got
to draw Parker. We got the Rod Parker ratings. Uh
you saw those ratings. We got the w rating. God
having it they wanted. They called me, they said, we
need you to trash talk. Still less than when she's
the one. They got two million, no less viewers almost
(38:19):
what hour, almost two million without Kaitlin. They thought she
was playing because it was.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Putting up NBA finals numbers.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
They're putting up NBA finals. They told me to trash
you stop talking about us. They said, oh, let me read.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The text they sent me. I'm just giving you the
real facts. Tell Rod, we.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Said, stop talking reckless. We don't want to have to
come see him and put cheesecake on his face. That's
what they said right there. Nearly two million viewers. It's
like Nancy the Sky and Fever Without Caitlin, class's like
Nancy Lieberman once last part of it says, take that
for data, whatever,
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