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July 25, 2025 40 mins

In Hour 1 of The Odd Couple 🎙️, Kelvin Washington is joined by Producer Extraordinaire Rob Guerra, filling in for Rob Parker! The guys break down Bears QB Caleb Williams — is he the real deal who can elevate the franchise, or is he just not it? Then, they dive into the Browns’ quarterback dilemma and react to Aaron Rodgers confirming the Steelers are MID. All that and more in Hour 1! 🔥🎧

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Speaker 3 (00:28):
He's a brother, that is right. It is The Odd Couple.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
On a Funky Flashback Friday, Calvin Washington, we got rob
G in Popp. That's right, rob G like Elijah. No,
rob G sits next No, the dude that's Alex usually Okay, fine, well,
rob G's here in for rob P on this funky

(00:50):
Flashback Friday. Looking forward to that as well.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Uh, rob G. Hopefully everything's good in your world. You're good.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Keep on keeping on man my net if you shout
out to him. Lucas is playing in Cooper's town this week.
Got on this took a tough loss in game one,
but they're back at it right now. Actually hopefully the
win game two.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Nice is Robin Cooper's down too, you know, he goes
like anything that has a baseball field or diamond.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean Rob might be in the real Coopers down
if you ask him.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Well yeah, well yeah hopefully so he can come on
and act like he's not honored. Oh man, I guess
it's a cool thing, right, No, you are excited, stop
it right exactly again. We got a great show line
though for you, Me and Rob g so appreciate you
hanging with you.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
We got some talk throughout the NFL circles right now.
We'll get to that in just a little bit. Coming
up in our next hour, we will have Clay Harbor,
former NFL tight end NFL analysts. We'll talk a bunch
of Rob's, a bunch of different conversations. Now that training
camps underway, OTA's are like, yeah, a little couple of conversations,
but now bigger ones are jumping off. We know some
guys who've gotten paid, others haven't. We know some guys

(01:52):
are injured. We know some quarterbacks haven't performed here you like,
So it's a bunch of get you there as well.
And then in our last hour, my guy Timothy Parker,
who is a reporter with Spectrum News and Sports net La.
Spectrum Sportsnetty covers a bunch of different things for us.
That's where, of course, you know I have the morning
show there. If you're on the West coast here in
l A. You know Spectrum News one.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm there gloss over that where you are an award
winning I appreciate that, Rob g television front man.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'll be hosting the la Emmy's tomorrow too.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Shae, I got it, Shae, you're going You're gonna like
my blazer. You're gonna like my little tux blazer with
the bowtie. You would like to look Shack. I'm excited
you would like to look too. I've been waiting for it.
Oh yeah, and I know what you're waiting for too.
We'll talk about now.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm waiting for the picture against the wall where he's
got his leg up and he kind of leans like
that's the go to double look.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
We know it.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I liked his his you see his commercial, his little
Dodger commercial, edd go and throwing the ball in the air.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
You see that one.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yet First of all, first of all, let me actually
back and say, as much as you roast me, I
love that you watch me like, but I'm a fan
because you know you have a look. Because Rob don't
ever notice nothing that do Rob Parker Now he don't.
I could literally have won like an Oscar and he'd
be like, Shah, what do you want to talk about today?
What's what do you think about Aaron Rodgers after what
a oscar last night? You don't want to talk about that.
Aaron Rodgers had some beautiful ball. He does, Yeah to him,

(03:07):
he does for sure. So welcome in the eye couple crew.
As we mentioned, we got Rob g standing sitting next
to me today. So therefore we got Shay Shy the
official one and he is going to and the official
odd couple side piece. I like that take over for
Jonas as the official couple that is now that he's
too busy take it and you wanted to drop, you

(03:28):
got to drop. You got dj Ali Alex on the
boards over there, Engineer Extraordan there, we have Steve the
Safer in the building getting ready to give you all
your updates throughout the day. And and uh, the guy
that we've never heard of Eli, he's going to be
giving you all the stuff on social media. Right, so
we got a great show line up looking for to
Timothy Parker, Like I said, coming up last hour, All right,
let's get into uh Rob g conversation that I think

(03:50):
I have a feeling because of where he is in
the NFL uh as far as and also the position
he plays. Caleb Williams right, there's gonna be a bunch
of conversations about him because he is the number one
pick from a year or two ago. He is the
Heisman Trophy winner, and he's got a new coach, new
shiny coach who is big time offensive minded in Ben Johnson.
I know because of course Detroit Lions former offensive coordinator

(04:13):
for some years there and did some amazing things and
really revived that town. When it comes to an identity, well,
I think Dan Campbell set the identity as far as tough, gritty,
hard nose. We're gonna run the football, but when we don't,
we're gonna have some cool, unique pass packages and have
you know, even have mess around. Have Jared Goff out
here running rounds like a receiver catching touchdown passes. So
that guy Ben Johnson now teamed up with someone that

(04:36):
they say is the best quarterback prospect since Andrew Luck.
As far as ability, yes, he can do it all.
He's strong, he can run, he's fast, he can throw. Obviously,
make all the throws to the tune of a heisman
in Caleb Williams. But one of the things that's been
coming out the last couple of days, Ben Johnson had
to say, hey, you Caleb and all you starters first team,
get out of here.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Get out.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
He had to kick him out of practice yesterday. That's
a big conversation because they weren't getting out of huddle
in time, and things weren't happening in seven on seven
and seven we didn't even get the playing on seven
on set and shorts and T shirts exactly what the
heck is going on there? And then you fast forward
today the reports are looks bad in the red zone,
a couple of interceptions and inside the twenty couldn't get
it done.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Started out one for ten passing.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
There you go, that's not gonna get it done at all.
So this is now back to back days of not
looking great. And you have some people who would jump
out and say hey, like a JJ Watt who would say, hey,
you can't take much out of training camps and practices.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's what they are. That's where you make the mistakes,
that's where you feel.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I do get that, but I will also say
rob Gi sometimes a concern can be a concern can
be concerned.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Doesn't mean that this person's gonna be terrible, doesn't mean
your team's gonna suck, but you can say, hey, that
is clearly something we got to tighten up, change up,
and fix. And I think there's something going on right
now between Kayleb Williams and Kayleb Williams not being what
we expected him to be coming out of college right, yes,
and what did we know. We knew there were some

(06:02):
things about him that were left undesirable for him coming
out of the draft as well. And my issue with
him right now is coming out there saying he wants
four thousand yards, which is terrible that that's going to
be a first time or time the benchmark, Yeah, for
an organization, and then seventy percent as well, but for
the first time in his career. I'm looking at it

(06:23):
as Cayleb Williams is dealing with adversity. And I don't
mean I don't want to talk about his twelve I
don't want to. I don't know that, but I mean
from probably primetime high school football, through college and now
on the pros, this is the first time where everything
that you've done isn't quite good enough right now. Where
the things that came easy for you, well they're not
really easy right now. And the things that you knew
you can go out there and do, maybe you even

(06:45):
are concerned about the confidence in doing those things. And
now you have a new offensive coordinator, you have a
new head coach, you will have a new system in
your second year where you're trying to learn and development.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Watch this, rob Ge.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
We've even seen guys who were good their first year
take a step back that second year. When you talk
about CJ. Stroud, right when when you talk about Trevor Lawrence,
talk about mac Jones. We talk about mac Jones. We
thought mac Jones is gonna be something. And so you
already may have the sophomore slump. But now you're doing
with the new coach. Now you're doing with the new system.
And I think he's really struggling with man, I can't

(07:17):
be superman like I used to. I may have to
actually adjust to the league, to the system. I gotta
get the ball out backyard sandlot football isn't gonna work
like that. And I think for the first time he's
dealing with that type of adversity, and I think now
with the new system, it's gonna make it tougher. And
they got five six weeks to get it underway because
they're gonna tough division leasely looks like on paper, and

(07:38):
I'm not overly worried, but I have a big concern
right now saying, Yo, some of this stuff should will
be a little more remedia, a little easier, and it's
not looking that way.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
No, it's really not. And even the most staunched Caleb
Williams defenders, and I wouldn't say I was that extreme,
but I was a big believer in they're coming out
of college. Anybody who who thought he was the best
prospects Andrew Luck, they all conceded two flaws, if you will,
about him coming out of thet a USC. Number one,
as you mentioned, all of his best players are backyard football.

(08:09):
It's not on time, it's not on target, it's not
in rhythm in the structure of the offense. That's not
what makes him special. Number two was to your point,
how does he deal with adversity, because we saw in
USC there's video of him going up into the stands
and crying to his mom because they lost a regular

(08:29):
season game and they were basically eliminated from the playoff chase.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Sometimes you need to hug rogie.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
And I'm not saying that's a bad thing, like it's
you know, it is what it is. Everybody operates in
different ways. But those were two legitimate concerns that even
his biggest defenders had and we've seen that now. Both
of those things play out in a big way in
the NFL. We thought after the London game against Jacksonville
last season where he goes twenty three to twenty nine,

(08:56):
two twenty six, four touchdowns, like, oh, he's arrived, he's
figured it out, he's married the structure with the off structure,
and we're gonna get the full Kayleb Williams experience. The
next three games right out of that breakout performance, his
team goes zero to three. He competes fifty percent of
his passes one hundred and fifty six passing yards per game,

(09:16):
no touchdowns, no picks, takes eighteen sacks over the next
three games with the passer rating of sixty four. And
ever since that little dry spell, he might have had
a couple of games where he pops off, you know,
against the Vikings two touchdowns against the Lions three touchdowns,
But what you saw repeatedly was a lack of confidence

(09:40):
in pulling the trigger on passes that were there. He'd
want to hold on the ball a little bit too long,
a beat too long, take a sack, or he'd be
pressing on some of his throws where a guy's open
and he's throwing it a little bit too hard with
a little bit too much anticipation and he misses a
guy that's open. And now you're seeing now that he's
with a coach like Ben Johnson, who very similar to

(10:03):
a guy like Kyle Shanahan, like a Sean McVay. What
they need for them is not the highlight reel quarterback.
They don't need the guy with six' five laser rocket
arm that can make all the. Throws what they need
and What Ben johnson, wants and what thing these guys
have all shown is run my. System it, works trust
me one two, three hit, it play action one two,

(10:26):
three four five hit. It And Caleb, williams at least
through the first two days of, camp is not showing
that he's capable of doing that that it goes against
everything that he fundamentally believes about, himself and to be quite,
HONEST i can't really blame him because that's how he
had all of his. Success that's what made him the
number one prospect that we had. Seen so it's Just

(10:47):
i'm not confident right. Now and as if you're A bears,
Fan i'd love to hear you it's the. Different i'm
not confident that we're going to see the best version
Of Caleb williams in THE. Nfl Matt eberfluss was his,
coach though he's. Terrible SO i got all them out
a little. Bit robb g BECAUSE i got to see
him a couple. Times, obviously as A lions, fan you're, like,
ooh bad. Decisions we know that week after week not
going for you, here should have went for it, there

(11:08):
didn't call time, out miss the field. Goal all these
things were, happening AND i think that does play a
role in not seeing the best version Of Kayleb. Williams,
now while we're putting a lot of this on, him
some of this is gonna go to h To Ben, Johnson,
yeah can you coach something that's? Different can you coach
a guy that isn't directly the type of prototype for?

(11:29):
You right where can you coach a guy can you
say Early Lamar jackson days or, Everybody, OH i mean
he's not, this he's not. That but thankfully For lamar
he went to a system and a Team John harbaugh
and that crew where they're, like, no we're gonna add
that to. You and a lot of times in THE
nfl it has to be my way of the. Highways
sometimes great coaches is.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Meet me in the.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Middle then this is typically HOW i like, it HOW
i want. It these are your Amazing god given talents
and things you're great. At let's find that happy, marriage
ye where we can get the best out of both
what we do and, again but when you do, that
it's gonna take time because to our, points that's What
Kayler williams has been used to doing what he's able
to do and just. Dominate and then Also Ben, johnson

(12:11):
you just spent a handful of years With Jared. Gofu
there is something to knowing your limitations and the.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Weaknesses Tom brady is arguably the greatest quarterback of all
time because he plays within.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Himself he knew good and well, one, two, THREE i gotta.
THROW i don't care if it's a Little Wes welker
three yard slant And mondola. Slant you, know he knew
what it. Was and when he was Having Randy moss
and both of the tight ends grunk and her, neck
it was a little. Different, OKAY i can air it
out a little. Bit WHY i can wait that extra
beat Till hernandez gets open down the middle till. Gronk
but he also knew times are and paid. Many if
he snapped that ball Rob gi and something was one

(12:47):
little bit out of, whack he would drop. Down, remember,
yes he would just slide. Down slide Not i've about
to lock me. Out i'm not about to get my
helmet taken off trying to make something happen Where i'm
now a, Runner i'm eligible to get hit like that
all these. Types hi, bull you are the running. Back
oh he ain't on the play action pos. It, Bam
i'm dropping down and so now to me. Again Ben
johnson new offensive coordinator as. Well can you all get

(13:10):
the best out Of caleb utilizes gifts and? Talents, caleb
can you maximize what they want out of you and
minimize the things that you used to holding on too,
long not being on, time not being in, rhythm messing
up the offensive line because you're supposed to get rid of.
That NOW i look like a bad lineman because you
held on to it and mess around and got sacker got.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Hurried and that's bat on my part when that wasn't
the original.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Play so who of those, Two Ben johnson Or caleb
will do you expect is going to be the one
to k?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
First who it should? Be i'll tell you.

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me with a question before right before.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Break, Yes so we agree that in order for The
bear and For Kayler williams specifically to reach his, potential
he's got to make some. Adjustments either him Or Ben
jonson's gonna adjust the way he. Coaches not everything can
be on rhythm on, rhythm on. Rhythm he needs to
allow his guy to be his. Guy so if we
agree they both need to, adjust which one do you
think adjust?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
First i'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Who i'm gonna answer it by saying who should and
or needs, to and that Is Ben Johnson because we
know coaches can go that's a good. Point number one, quarterbacks,
literally number one, Picks heisman, winner a guy who everyone
is projecting to be that, Guy, well then it's you

(16:21):
because you can't say that because IF i Say matt,
eberfluffs well he was just bad so he almost that
almost bush him out the. Way now you are supposed
to be that. Guy offensive. Guru we saw what you did.
There we had to play you multiple. Times when you
know with The, lions what's wrong with? You kevin O'Connell
out here being the quarterback whisper getting everybody he didn'a
Got Sam darnold a bunch of?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Money what's up with? You you know WHAT i?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Mean AND i feel Like Ben johnson ultimately right or.
Wrong when you're the, coach you're the most. Expendable between
that and a star. Quarterback now he's just a, quarterback
just a.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Guy that's.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Different but if he's the guy we're invested, in the
whole town is this is our? Guy the city Is
do we finally have one of those? One can we
finally have the Greatest bear quarterback in sixty? Years then
you gotta be fixing this because If Kayleb williams is
just a better, version slightly better version of last. Year
and let's say some, progress and let's say they end

(17:13):
up you, know it's not even, crazy but they're ten
and seven.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Nine then that's good for him and they're heading in
the right.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Direction Ben johnson can't afford to not be because then
you're expendable like they can at least. Go he's getting.
Better things are going, right we're winning more, gan what's
up with, You Ben? Johnson if there's some bumping of, heads, right,
OKAY i would agree with.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
That, now speaking of, quarterbacks one team and one franchise
that has similarly putrid reputation when it comes to the
quarterback position is The Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Browns, right don't Do Bernie czar like?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
That shout out To Bernie, Kozar shout out To Baker.
MAYFIELD i know that you know he hates me right,
now but we could be friends shortest.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
You, yeah y'all. Do y'all do got a lot of
the same similar we really. Do it's actually really. Funny
it's a shame that we're not. Friends you need to
be him For. Halloween so you got talking about.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yesterday there's the four way battle for the quarterback. Position you,
know Between Kenny, Pickett Joe, Flacco Dylan, gabriel And Shador.
Sanders Shad Door stadters famously is not getting a single
rep with The, ones but only one of the four
who was Not and when they asked them about it, Today,
chadeur to his, credit A Number, ONE i don't think
it's a question for. ME i don't Think i'm the
kind of guy who should be answering that. Question that's

(18:20):
for somebody. Else but number, two it's just not in my.
Control i'm going to focus WHAT i can focus, on
control WHAT i can, control let the rest worry about.
Later what are they doing In?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Cleveland, man.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You just mentioned, it isn't it funny that we're talking
about two franchises that have never gotten a quarterback position,
right or at least for the most. Part you, know
that's just always been a challenge for these these. Franchises
so to, me it shows me that this is not
an easy, thing right to get done for, them at
least to have not had a sustained run of greatness
at that. Position because you can, name for instance that

(18:57):
The lions weren't the, greatest but you saw we all
went through staffords that got that wasn't. Debatable right, now
you See jared goff to the tune of fifteen to,
two and you're for the first time you're the. Lines
you're just, pointing not a Super. BOWL i can go
down The. Packers they ain't had but three quarterbacks in
one hundred and seventy five. Years point, is people are
you've had a run with some, quarterbacks and these two
teams have struggle with. THAT i, mean so with WHEN

(19:19):
i look at The, BROWNS i don't know what they're.
Doing when you drafted guys higher than they we, Predicted Dylan.
Gabriel you you go out of your way to Get
Kenny pickett when he was already struggling with The, steelers
and you trade for. Him but then you bring Back Joe,
flacco who you could have had but you let him.
Go and then you go get Your, door who by

(19:40):
all accounts to your, point has done everything asked of
him in a sense that he's played very. Well NOW
i wasn't with The, ones but, HEY i can't be
with the ones if you're not gonna put me with the.
Ones and then also answering questions right handl himself and
it seems like they're just kind of determining, no, nah,
nah he's gonna stay there in this. Position, Meanwhile rob
G i ain't heart, good, bad or indifferent From Dylan

(20:02):
gabriel IF i told you he wasn't even know that's
a fact That now that is a part WHERE i
would talk to your. Door, hey, bro gonna find out
as the second.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
One we did it. Twice we did it, twice and that's.
Bad BUT i honestly don't know what they're.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Doing AND i think this is they're gonna mess around
and either fail into something good where somebody's gonna be
that bad and they then they gotta put your door in.
There he ends up being good to go that was
the game. Plan we knew, it or they're gonna ruin this.
Situation But i'll say, this AND i know you wanna
go they. HAVE i think they're gonna another saying they're
not gonna keep. Four they might mess around and keep four.

(20:38):
Quarterbacks that would be and be why draft all of?
These you get WHAT i? Mean why bringing old veterans
who at this, point you know, What Joe, fla just move,
on give it To Kenny pickett and make your door
number two in line Or gabriel number, two like just have?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
That know?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
That why Invent Joe? Flacco Joe flacco is a guy
you call off the. Couch he's hit at home eating,
lays and you, say, man we need a. Quarterback you Call, joe,
SAY i know he's got four days, Notice, yeah four days.
Notice he's coaching his son's a and under. League he's
a football league. Pee but he already has the. Playbooks
he's already ready and he comes home, like why bring a?
Man If Kenny picktt is supposed to be the veteran,

(21:14):
leader starter, guy you tell.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Me i'll tell you. What everything you said is right
and and and it's makes total. Sense WHAT i think
is that you're looking at it from the wrong point of.
View so you're, like tell, me why are they doing?
This doesn't make any kind of, Sense like what are
you doing with four? Quarterbacks you already know what you
have In guinea Pick you know What Joe flacco.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
IS i believe.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
That The Cleveland browns are being incompetent on.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Purpose you think it's? Conspiracy thank, You. Alex, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
So here's WHAT i think that they're. Doing here is
WHAT i think that they're. Doing we all know there it.
Is it was, late but it.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Came it.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Came, hey it Was William William. Pass it was a little,
late but so we all. Know you mentioned it.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yesterday The march For arch is on for SEVERAL nfl,
franchises even as early As july twenty. Fifth, today we,
know without even looking at the, schedule without, considering, hey
someone off to a hot, start someone might go worse
to first like they do every. Year we know going
into next, season The New Orleans saints are gonna suck

(22:23):
point play period. Facts we know going into next season
The Carolina panthers is not gonna be any. Good, no
we know going into next season it's a high probability
that both of The New york teams are gonna be. Terrible,
Possible i'm with, you, possible high.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Probability The jets areas to jetson, maybe but they have
at least a slim chance of being the least.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Decent.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
So The Cleveland browns play in WHAT i would, consider
if not the, best arguably the best division in. Football
The baltimore Ravens'es Udi bengals have Legitimate Super bowl. Aspirations
The Pittsburgh steelers their quarterback thinks apparently that they are
the inner circle of champions wish. Contenders The Cleveland, BROWNS i,
believe are aware, that, hey we know What Kenny pickett.

(23:08):
Is if we have him under center at, best we're
six and, eleven seven and ten type Team Joe. Flacco
even if we can make the playoffs with. Him we
know what the ceiling. Is we saw that two years,
ago and we know we can't count on it moving
forward because he's eighty seven years.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Old so what we're.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Gonna do is we're gonna deliberately Suppress Shaduur sanders because
on the off chance that this lottery ticket is as
good as, advertised and he messes around and gets us eight,
wins nine, wins and we end up picking in the
twenties or in the high. Teens that has nothing for.
Us so what we're gonna do is we're gonna act
like we don't know who our quarterback. IS i, mean
it could be this, guy it could be that we

(23:44):
might carry four. Quarterbacks chaduur is never gonna practice with the.
Ones but it's not because of. Him it's, because you,
know it's a lot of things going. On WHAT i
think they're trying to do is set the table so
that they can be okay to start off with one in,
three two and two and then immediately pull the rip
cord and, say, hey it's a race to the bottom
and we can't Let New orleans beat. Us we are

(24:05):
on the march For. Arch he's going to be A Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
BROWN i love. THAT i love that conspiracy, there and
it's not.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Crazy we've seen teams do that where you, know they
sacrificed the now for the future and trying to go
get somebody like An, arch which is so funny that
we're all clamoring if they're all claiming For arch and
we don't really know what he's.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Good we think he's.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
GOOD i don't really ain't really play that much Yet
i'm not mad at. That All, right you just mentioned
that other quarterback that has some thoughts about his. Team
will tell you who he is and what he said
on the other side of the. Update that is What
steve The seger is gonna. Do update you, Now, Hi, Steve.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Hello let's start with The Major League baseball. Scoreboard one
finally in from, Today miami a winner At milwaukee five
to one as The brewers offense went four for thirty.
One The brewers are first in THE Nl. Central they
were a game over The cubs to start the. Day
The cubs are about to begin at The White sox
seven and three show To. Imanaga An all star on
the mound For. Chicago, Tonight dodgers At, boston scoreless in

(24:56):
the bottom of the. First dodger Outfielder Mookie betts exit
ball out for personal, reasons And Fenway park's food workers
are on strike this. Weekend The dodgers are first in
THE Nl, west five games up On San. Diego that
lead was nine games over The padres On july. Third
San diego in action At Saint. Louis it's about to.
Start orioles with a couple of solo homers lead The

(25:17):
rockies two nothing in the top of the. Second those
two long balls off Starter Kyle. Freeland he's two and
ten For. Colorado The rockies have a record of twenty
six and seventy. Six yankees out to a one nothing
lead on The phillies bottom of the. Second Cody bellinger
with a solo home. Run also, Underway Blue jays At Tigers,
toronto the first place team in THE Al. East four

(25:39):
and a half games over The. Yankees boston is six
and a half. Back by the, way The yankees acquired
third Baseman ryan McMahon from The rockies for TWO a ball.
Pitchers The mets traded four lefty Reliever Gregory soto from
The orioles for two minor league pitchers to THE. Mls
Miami's Lionel messi was suspended one game for missing The
All Star game Last, wednesday as was his Teammate Jordi,

(26:01):
albo so they're each Out. SATURDAY a. Reminder in women's,
soccer The eurofinal Is sunday On FOX tv Noon Eastern, Time,
spain the Defending World cup champion Against, england which won
the Last Euro. Tournament three W nba games, tonight including
the late game The Golden State vaulcries hosting The Dallas.
Wings Golden State All Star Kayla thornton out for the

(26:21):
season after knee. Surgery The bengals signed first round pass
Rusher Shamar stewart to a reported guaranteed. Contract in a,
Concession stuart gets more of his signing bonus up. Front
The falcon side wide RECEIVER Dj, Shark vikings wide Receiver
Justin jefferson will miss part of camp with a strange.
Hamstring it is said to be mild back to, you all.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Right, steve thank you so much as the odd couple
Kelvin washington and we Got rob g in For rob
on this funky Flashback. Friday appreciate you all hanging with.
US i want to get into more quarterback. Talk Aaron
rodgers of The. Steelers, now it's so. Weird Aaron rodgers.
Too not that The jets felt, right BUT i was
gonna say that any Better, jets, well at least with
The jets you, had you, know you kind of knew

(27:03):
it was. Bad so you had that lot Of jets
And Aaron rodgers and NOW i was, like, oh he's
a a. STUDENT i don't know what To this is.
Weird Aaron rodgers now had some thoughts about the team
and kind of where they fare as far As Super bowl.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Aspirations here's what he had to.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
SAY i think that you, know there's really only six
to eight they really have a legitimate. Chance sometimes it's
ten to, twelve and there's teams to surprise. You BUT
i would say on, paper were probably one of those
ten to.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Twelve first of, all is he starting to sound a
little more current, froggy the froggy like like the sad
When Miss peggy like when.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
He, sings he was giving me a little. Current run
that back real, quick. Guy it just really with.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
IT i think that you, know there's really only six to.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Eight didn't really have a legitimate no.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
ENTHUSIASM i, know well because he, well when you're the
ten to twelve best, team rob g all, right let
me let me start. Here usually we have ABOUT i
would say six teams that we think have a. Shot
and by WHAT i, MEAN i split that up three
in each conference that you kind of Go, Chiefs, Ravens, bills,

(28:02):
right you kind of those are, OKAY i.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Guess somebody picked one of those. Teams you're, LIKE i
don't know IF i would, agree BUT i ain't mad At.
YEAH i absolutely see Why Josh allen finally gets over the.
Hump i'm absolutely this is just What Patrick mahomes.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Does, sure and Finally lamar and then THE nfc you, go,
well live it up for the raigning champs and The,
eagles maybe The homer, me but you maybe say The,
lions and maybe you say The. Commanders maybe those are
kind of the three and maybe The rams would, Say,
hey don't forget about. Us point is once you getting
in at ten to, twelve what in the everybody gets

(28:33):
a participation participation, trophy blue ribbon.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Is going On Aaron. Rodgers you were one of the.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Greatest of all, time one of the best of your,
era one of the best. Ever don't tell me About.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
No ten and no.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Twelves nothing about you should be double digits unless it's the.
Wins how many? WINS i think we're getting twelve? Wins
that's WHAT i want to. HEAR i don't want to
hear about you telling me, YEAH i MEAN i think
we fall.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Into ten and.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Twelve first, off that's how you. Feel do me a,
favor tell me that what me and you are in
and out having a. Burger AND i don't tell the
public THAT i. Know we want honesty from. ATHLETES i
don't want you to be that. Honest ten to, twelve
then you don't have a. SHOT rogi and you said
eight six to, Eight, yeah you, know can we named
the three on each? Other and if you want to add,

(29:19):
in LIKE i, said The rams WITHIN, nfc and then
you want to add in maybe The chargers or, Something
mangals or Something, Okay i'm with. You but to say
ten to twelve teams have a chance to win The Super,
BOWL i don't buy. That this is in baseball where
we do get random teams that, win you, know this
is not THE wnba or, SO i, like.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
What where are you coming up with this ten to twelve? Teams?
Now will they'll be good? Teams? YES i think The
broncos should be.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
GOOD i think The packers should be, good you, Know
BUT i don't think they're legitimate. Teams where we're sitting
here as you AND i, are you talk about who
are the Real Super bowl? Contenders they're not ten to
Twelve because if you're telling me twelve contenders and you're
telling me there aren't any you get WHAT i, Mean
and they're telling me it's just wide. Open then if
you're telling me it's ten to, twelve if you give me,

(30:05):
Eight i'll give you. That in THE nba coming, up
you kind of know the six seven teams at most
that kind of have a usually you, know like two
or three in THE, nbaba and he's a whole other
three double aprons on, people then you kind of. Knew
AM i wrong for THINKING i don't want to hear
my star, quarterback the one who's supposed to by the
way we put everything on this one, year you're not thirty.

(30:28):
Five he said that this is probably his last. Season
so this is your last. Season you're telling me we're
ten and twelve win contending for nothing.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Different in an effort to gass up his, Team Aaron
rodgers inadvertently admitted their Mid he's, like you know, WHAT
i think we're pretty. GOOD i think we're somewhere around
five Hundred wait what wait?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
What?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah like?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
What we put it all on the house on you
for us to be.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
That and you know what's funny Is i'm looking at
the fan Duel Super bowl future. Hoze, now this is inexact,
science but it gives you an, idea a relative consensus
of who the best teams. Are here are the teams
that are listed ahead of The Pittsburgh steelers in The
Super bowl. Odds Cayler williams and The, bears who we just,
mentioned went one for ten passing in the red zone
and through multiple, interceptions can't even get to put the

(31:13):
playout on.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Time, yeah and you're supposed to be like the better
version of what he?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Exactly, Yeah Kyler murray and The Arizona, Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
ALEX i need to hold, up hold. Up that cannot
be ahead of, you.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Who famously spent more time Playing call Of duty they
did on his playbook that they had to put a
clause in his contract for.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
It that's.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Okay ahead of, them my arch, Nemesis Baker mayfield and
The Tap Bay. Buccaneers i'm not mad at. That i'm
not mad at that. Either but like ahead of, Them, Broncos, Texans, Chargers. Bengals,
like just looking at This Super bowl odds in THE,
afc there may be ten or twelve according to this.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
What are we?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Doing?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Aaron?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
See and this is where you say what are we?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Doing?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Aaron AND i wish you Were Rob parkers SO i
can S ye'll let you eve. More and so what
are we?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Doing? Steelers that's the bigger point for, Me rob g
that's your one year all, right, Baby we're all in city.
Boys we are city boys trying to be. Up city
boys are. Down your quarterback is closer to aarp than
he is. College your quarterback is two years removed for an,

(32:22):
achilles Which i'm not saying that's two years. Ago but
my point is things don't get better health wise as your.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Age.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Nope you got rid of your, start your best, receiver
AND i get. It he was a headache at. Times
but you bring in a new, one so that's a
whole new. System you got rid of your running back
who had a thousand yards and looked. Solid but your
quarterback situation has been bad Since Ben, roethlisberger the last
few years of.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Him and now you're putting it all On Aaron. Rodgers,
like here we, GO. Tj wat's been. Amazing guess. What
you still ain't want to playoff.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Game that's.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Crazy by the, Way you've got the best defender arguably
of his, generations of his, generation or at least when
if you want to Go, miles but he's in the.
Conversation in the, conversation you're known to have great. Defense
you've made something out of. Nothing Sometimes i'll give him.
That the fact that they would win nine or ten.
GAMES i didn't see that that y'all pulled it. Out
but that can't be what you Do. Steelers and this

(33:17):
is WHY i yelled At rob for so long about.
This it's not THAT i Think Aaron, rodgers by the,
WAY i actually don't think he's going to. SUCK i
don't think he's going to be. HORRIBLE i just don't
think he gets you over the, top not in THE,
afc not especially not in THE. Asc, wells by the,
way the NFC's better THAN. Afc y'all ain't ready for that.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Conversation by the, way can we just say That Aaron
rodgers the guy they put all their eggs in the,
basket coming off a situation where he had better receivers
number one and number, two had an offensive system that
was catered to. Him he's not gonna have that In.
Pittsburgh BRO i Told jared ball that. Yesterday, yeah last,
Season Aaron rodgers thirty first to THE nfl just A
qbr twenty first impasser, rating and it was the fourth

(33:56):
time in his career that he threw double digit. Interceptions
And Aaron rodgers playing football since his stone.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Age and now he's with a team that has not
been great with the.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Quarterbacks to the tune Of Russell wilson having beefs with
the quarterback, coach and to the two of them getting
rid Of Russell, wilson they got rid Of Justin, fields
who was playing, well not, great was playing well four and,
two ten in, touchdowns one, interception they got rid of.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Him and so, AGAIN i don't know that this is
a better situation and it's a new.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Situation you mentioned the familiarity of the receiving core that
they brought in for him with The, jets the offensive,
structure his guy In, hackett you, know bringing in my
entire environment THAT i, know all the, guys all the
guys just To DeVante adams of, It Vante. Adams and
then now we don't do. Great the numbers would that

(34:41):
he had the ugly twin Of Patrick. Mahomes, yeah the
numbers were the exact, same very simple As rob likes the,
scream except for a couple of key. Ones when you
looked At Patrick, mahomes he led THE nfl in third
downs into touchdown.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Conversions.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
HUGE i think it was fifty three percent If i'm not. Mistaken,
yeah but by number one name with a bullet not even.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Close.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yep, Yeah and That's. Hugh that's the winning play that a,
quarterback and that's Historically. Aaron what you used to do
is make those plays And Patrick mahomes knew how to
finish the, game And aaron doesn't do. That. Anymore aaron
might even give you the the ball back to the team,
tied but then they go kick a, field gonna, win
and Then Rob parker, comes well the, Defense, well how

(35:26):
about you give us a, Lead, Aaron, aaron how about
you go win. IT i feel like you're venting some
frustrations to me right. Now the MORE i look at,
you the more you turn keep turning To Rob. Parker
it's The rob in your, name and you're talking About
Aaron rodgers person he has he's blinded. For so that's my.
Point it's just THAT i don't you're screaming ten and twelve. Contenders,

(35:47):
no there's. Not there's no such thing as contender as
if there's ten and twelve of. Them, secondly you might
have spotted yourself as you illustrated There, rodger by putting
yourself at ten or, twelve meaning you might be more like, fifteen.
Eighteen and then, again if that is what we, are
ultimately we go ten and, seven nine and, eight maybe
make the playoffs barely a wild card and lose in
the first.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Round that's what we did this.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
For THEN i could have Kept Russell, wilson you could
have who already knew the, system who was younger and
who you, know we might have been able to run
it back with and maybe improve on upon what we
had last.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Year all, Right.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
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Speaker 3 (37:01):
Lately you got time for?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
THAT i don't LIKE x so IF i was gonna do,
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it's just obviously we're all used To, twitter used to
access kind of the way the brain.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Thinks but what next do to?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
You, yeah, well don't get me. Started Now we'll go Full.
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what my Man?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Winby? Then Did wenby might be your new favorite? Player?
Yes tell? Him tell me why?

Speaker 4 (37:57):
SO Nba history and OFFICIAL I guess sub account of
THE nba put out a Tweet innocuous. Yesterday he, says,
hey join us in wishing a happy sixty second birthday
the fourteen Time All, star two TIME, mvp seventy fifth
anniversary team Member chrome alone, right didn't seem like anything of.
It somebody takes that quote tweets it with a video

(38:20):
about twenty seconds long, saying oh, nas he has not
what he's about to. Do police lock his ass. Up
he needs to be under the, Jail and if you
know About carmelone's, history you know why he would say.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
That, yeah he dated and impregnated someone very young back
back in the early eighties.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
When you say, teenage yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Seats, yes he's had some comments towards other people's wives
that he's league WITH ima leave that. Alone just a
bunch of, little little though not, little but some little,
things some big things throughout his career and a lot
of people don't like.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Him but what's, crazy what's headline, worthy why we're talking
about it is one, person a prominent individual in THE,
nba retweeted that, video none than the shoutling monk, Himself
victor Wimban.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yama so you just let me write down my direction
WHEN i tell you the last person of all four
hundred and fifty people in THE NBA i thought would
not necessarily, care but that would care enough to tweet
is my man who is on a monk for cheat
TREAT yep And Wimby wimby dodn't cut his, Hair wimby
is doing martial. Arts wimby is hanging with, Monks AND

(39:24):
i mean that's sincerely or not even real, money real Monks,
wimby you already to fell off the. Wagon wimmy is
already falling for the hokie. Dog the tweets. Negativity, see
that's WHAT i blame right, now the era in which
we are right, Now, roger everything is. Negative you gotta
have the, snarkiest fastest, Comment you gotta say the wildest.
Thing and even they got all the way up to

(39:46):
seven foot Nine. WIMBY i know adison, mention but you
give What i'm. Saying the, noise the riff, raft the
badness got all the way up past. Him then get
the rest of us who are vertically challenged a little.
Bit we're not seven seven to twelve. EEL i know
that would be eight foot but it's funnier that. Way
but how did they get up to? Him he's supposed
to be above, this figuratively and, literally he's supposed to

(40:07):
be above.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
This no he's, not because let me tell you it's
right in the. Vein it's not. Level but it's paying
homage To Mike. Tyson remember when he converted To, islam
and all praise be to a. Law he gave a
post fight press conference in the. Ring i'm gonna pet
you WITH i wanna beat his. Children all praise be
to a. LAW i don't know if a law was.
LIKE i don't think we didn't eat these.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Children we, SAID i said feed feed the, Children, shaye, right,
yeah it was supposed to feed the. CHILDREN i eat the, children, Right?
Wenby this is crazy from it From. Winby but you be,
both you, know as they get you a girl and do,
both And weinby be. Both can he be a?

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Mother, yeah of it.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
All but WHEN i tell, YOU i didn't hear to
expect that From. Winby if you just said gil With,
ARENAS i would have believed. THAT i would have believed.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
It.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Uh but then also somebody else says some crazy shack
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