July 31, 2025 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why they have a problem with Trey Hendrickson suggesting that contract holdouts are 'selfish' an debate whether it's fair to say that Trey Lance is the biggest bust in NFL history. Later, the Odd Couple Crew shares their proudest professional moments in this week's edition of Shop Talk.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Trey Hendrickson has ended his holdout. He will be back
in Cincinnati with the Bengals this upcoming season, so that's
the big headline. But now, in the wake of his reporting,
he's met with the media couple of times, and his
comments about his decision to come back really raise some
eyebrows around here.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Take it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Listen to what he said.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
What I'm not gonna do is as best as I can,
like avoid being a distraction. You know, I want to
help the guys, you know, the guys that have helped
me along the way Tomorrow, Davis, Cam Jordan, even Sam
Hubbard helped me a lot when I was here, So
to be that right now, I think is that's what's
most important. And this narrative will kind of iron itself
out as we continue to progress towards the season, and.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Rob g he wandup called himself, which I didn't hear
in that sound bite.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
He said later that the idea of holding out and
preventing younger players from learning from him is selfish.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, And can I say this to Trey Hendrickson, You're crazy,
your ma sugar naw. All you football players is this on?
Have been brain washed to think that you're doing something wrong.
Your CBA and your players union Kelvin has put them
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in a spot. The only way that they can get
their fair value is to do what Hendrickson did, which
is to hold out. There is no other option. What
do you mean selfish? Selfish is teams that you play
well for them and they tell you, you know what, No,
you can come back, but you gotta take a cut
otherwise we're gonna release you. That's selfish because when you
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played well, they didn't give you any more money or
do anything or let you out of your deal or
bump it up. No, come on, man, football players, I'll
never get it. How are you selfish? The system doesn't
work for you to be for it to be fair
to you. You have no recourse. You have nothing else
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you can do other than sitting it out until they
come to their senses and take care of you. I
still don't understand this. They got terrible healthcare, terrible pension,
just terrible everything. The NFL is making money hand over fish.
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You got a commission who makes fifty million dollars and
you think you're selfish, that's bread, being brainwashed to think
that you did something wrong. No, you're admirable. You're a
stand up guy to stand up and say I'm not
gonna just fall in line and take whatever you give me.
(03:10):
And I'm just happy to be here and humbled and
yeah whatever, let me let you throw some peanuts at
my feet and I'm good with it. Are you kidding me?
I respect people who are willing to stand up and
do something and say I matter, my value matters. The
reason that the NFL has been able to get away
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with what they've done to these players is because most
of them are cowards and aren't willing to stand up
to ownership, aren't willing to stand up to the union,
aren't willing to stand up to the people that are
the powers that be. That's why they're in such a
bad spot. Because most NFL players are a brainwashed and
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be cowards with a capital C. And it's my boggling
when you think about how big and strong and feel
ass these guys are, but when it comes time to
making sure that they have the best contracting deal, they
bow out. I salute you, Trey Hendrickson, you are not
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n ot selfish.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, I I was saluting him. The problem why I
got a chill on my salute is because he cowered
down and called himself being a bad guy and I'm
being a bad teammate.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
He talked about I want to get back. You know
why I want to get back, and went on show
leadership to the young guys. This is showing leadership to
the young guys. Standing up for yourself is absolutely a
way to do that. You can't be the NFL sack leader.
You can't be one of the best defensive players since
you got there. You're having thirteen plus sacks except once.
You can't be the guy that's sitting around here doing
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all this. When you look at the defensive metrics with
him on the field, it's absolutely astronomical difference than when
he's off. So he knows his worth, he know what
he brings to the Bengals organization. Now, this is an
organization that we know has been historically cheap. This has
been an organization that doesn't pay anybody guarantee contracts outside
of a year for the most part, except quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
So this is to me.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I don't understand why people don't understand this. And this
goes for you listening. This goes for Trey Henderson, this
goes for Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. You have to be
in the business of you. I am in the business
of Kelvin. I'm going to work hard, I'm going to
play it, be a teammate. I'm gonna do absolutely what
I believe it's gonna be best for us, for you,
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for me, the odd couple, but iHeart Media is in
business for iHeart and they're gonna do what's best for them.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Kelvin has to do it's best for me.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Trey Henderson has to do its best for him in
the league, especially where you can do all that you can,
like he has, but be making fifteen million dollars. But
all the comparable guys who are doing exactly what you're doing, TJ. Watt,
Miles Miles Garrett are making three times what you're making
just about so advocating for yourself is admirable. Advocating for
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yourself is good business. Advocating for yourself is exactly what
you're supposed to be doing. But somehow, powerful people rob
have always tricked the younger, the little man, and they're
thinking it's everybody's fault but us.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
So you get players who feel bad, Oh, I don't
want to.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I don't want to me take a haircut, Let me
do it for the team. And I don't want to.
I don't want to be the guy that takes all
the money. Ownership takes all the money. They charge people
twenty five dollars for a beer, thank you, They charge
you one hundred dollars apart in a place where there's
no other wor place to park, but at your ballpark
or your stadium or your arena. And then you even
look at powerful politicians, they trick you, pay your taxes,
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do all this. Meanwhile, they've paid seven hundred and fifty dollars,
but they're billionaires and millionaires and I mean literally seven
hundred and fifty dollars in taxes. So somewhere along the line,
ownership always tricks the little man. You give your blood,
sweat and tears for seven years to a team. Six
years to a team you say, hey, I want to
go somewhere else just wasn't working out. They didn't treat
me right, they didn't do all they could. You're the
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bad guy. So I don't know how people fall for
the okie dokee every time. Trey Henderson absolutely deserves to
get this money. He absolutely deserves to hold out if
that's what he chooses to do, and he should not
feel bad about it. In fact, he should be. This
is how we do it. This is how we build
unity as a league and as a players association by
doing what's best for us. And I don't get why
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he now it's bad leadership. No, bad leadership is how
the Bengals have run their business.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Or bad leadership is what Tom Brady did taking a
hometown discount and then making all the owners go, well,
you see what tom Brady did. He took less. Patrick
mahomes woind up taking less too. No, tom Brady did
an injustice to the rest of the membership. You don't
take less that creates other people having to do that
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because he's one of the people that people look up to.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Oh yeah, at his point of doing it justifiable. I
get it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
He wants to keep winning. The problem is to what
you said, They're gonna use that against him. They're gonna
say that against a big body, Right, That's what I'm
saying them, is what I say against them. They're gonna
say the best in the business is doing this. Surely
you can. You know your only player X, your only player,
why you're not Tom Brady if he's doing it, Surely
you can. Yeah, Trey Anderson, I love that he was
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standing on business until he stops standing on business on it.
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Speaker 1 (09:35):
Rob g, this game is so meaningless that Trey Lance
is playing. I'm just saying, wow, I mean, let's just
call it what we want.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Do You ain't like black quarterbacks, but dang.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm just saying what.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
That's right?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Trey Lance, the former top three overall pick in the
NFL Draft twenty twenty one. We'll be getting the start
tonight in the Hall of Fame game because just.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Not a brain trust should have been fired years ago,
but they got lucky with the mister irrelevant. That's what
it's still.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Around because Chargers QB one Justin Herbert will not dress.
Chargers QB two. Tyler Heineke is being held out as
just an emergency quarterback, so that means Trey Lance will
be getting the bulk of the snaps tonight. And guys,
a couple hours ago, I put this tweet out, not
thinking much of it until Martin Weiss retweets it and
friend of the show Daniel Kelly retweets it. Apparently I
was onto something. I put out this tweet and let
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you let me know what you guys think. I say,
nobody brings it up because he went number three is
a number one, but Trey Lance has to be the
front runner for the biggest bust in NFL history. Two
teams didn't even need to really see him play to
decide he couldn't play. That's unheard of for a first
round pick. And here's what I mean, guys, Trey Lance
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will be entering his fifth NFL season. He's only started
five games in his NFL career, this despite being taken
third overall by the forty nine ers, and famously, as
you guys mentioned, got unsurped my mister irrelevant himself brock
Party in San Francisco got traded to the Dallas Cowboys
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for a fourth round pick and a bag of peanuts.
And you would think, hey, Dak Prescott got hurt last year.
I'm sure we saw plenty of Trey Lance in Dallas. No,
they said, hey, Cooper Rush is the guy we want
to see, not the guy we paid a fourth round
pick to get. So I don't think that it's even
a question. I believe Trey Lance is easily the biggest
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bus in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Your thoughts, Calvin he is, So, I don't think he's
the biggest buss.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'm gonna tell you why. And I thought long and
hard about this. I looked at off scenarios. Here's why
he's the biggest bust. Now he's the quietest bust, and
that is the biggest one. But the reason why he's
so bad that nobody even gives him a chance to play,
and you start digging at some of the other guys,
rob they at least got seasons or another season, two,
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three seasons or sixteen eighteen twenty five starts. He don't
even get to start. And he was a third pick
and they moved all the way up to get him.
And part of the Bus part of it is mister
irrelevant took your spot. That's that's you, the guy on
the block. And a nerdy little dude comes and takes
your girl. That can't happen, right, the little lame, nerdy
dude in some nineteen eighties rom com stole your girl,
(12:22):
duck ducky from what is that sweet sixteen or sixteen
candles steals your girl.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
That can't happen. Trey Lancer is so bad.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
He's so bad we actually forget about him because you
remember JaMarcus Russell, You remember a Q.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Smith, You for.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Sure remember Ryan Leaf. We bring these other guys up
when we talk about bus. Trey Lance is so bad
we actually don't forget about him. He's like the football
version of Anthony Bennett. You don't even remember Anthony Bennett.
You talk about OLAA Candy or maybe Ben Simmons when
you talk about bus Mark Hall faults, Anthony Bennet was
so bad you forgot him. And that's what Trey Lance is.
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We don't even remember him. So I disappointing how he
doesn't even get a chance to play.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Teams don't even want him.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
And I think that's why for me, because when I
really look at it, other guys at least got fifteen
twenty five starts a few seasons. Usually you get your chances.
You might just suck, but you get your chances. He's
walking up with the clipboard and they saying, nah, bro
we good. And that's to me why he is he
has to be. He doesn't even get a shot. Rob
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everybody else got a shot.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I disagree with you. Here's my problem. Trey Lance to
me was a was questionable at best. Okay, he played
one college season only through the ball. What he had
two hundred and eighty seven attempts, so he wasn't even
really you know what I mean, Like they thought they
were geniuses and they saw something because you remember, the
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talk was he hadn't played enough. There wasn't enough tape
on him right, so for him to be drafted for
them to move up and draft him third that's on them.
I don't what's his body of work that you thought, seriously, Kelvin,
he was gonna be something special. He didn't do anything
in college. There was a this was a question mark
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from Jump Street. That's why he can't be the biggest bust.
And then you have JaMarcus Russell, of course, who was
the overall number one pick, and that was just a
disaster you from day one. But I still think that
it's this guy who is the biggest bust in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Don't talk to me, all right, knock it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Up, Ryan Leave, Don't talk to me like that. Dude
was like was bonkers. He was terrible and he acted
like a baby, you know. He was like he was
unhinged because he was terrible and people were asking questions.
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He was a guy right second overall pick, and he
was like this guy where people thought, but you had
a quarterback of the future, like this is the thing
that's different is that people were like, oh my god,
Ryan Leif started only eighteen games four and fourteen. He
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was supposed to be the new hotness. He was supposed
to be something special. That's not what Trey Lance was
supposed to be. Nobody that's why. That's why the forty
nine ers people get off Scott free. It is because
he really, if you're honest about it, and I get it,
to be drafted as third and they moved up. And
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here's the other part. He didn't play enough for us
to say that he can't play. He got hurt in
his first year. What did he play, rob g Three games?
Remember he played like three games. One was in the rain,
he got hurt and then that was it. They really
didn't give him a chance. Like that's why I can't
believe that he could be considered the greatest bust of
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all time. He just did not get a chance to
play enough. Whereas I look at Ryan Leaf, the Ryan.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Leaf has clearly because of all the craziness and the
spiral and the personal life spiral dow. Obviously he's gonna
seem to be in a better place now. If anybody
you know you've seen him speaking was onhand, which he yeah,
and his life went down as well. Some of these guys,
when you look dive deep into it, JaMarcus Russell being another,
I mean coming in twenty at two ninety, coming in
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a camp at two ninety is crazy as a quarterback
getting a DVD that has nothing on it and then
they ask you, hey, did you watch the tape? Yeah,
I got I watched the tape. Man, I was you know,
I I saw all the highlights. Oh that dude, that's embarrassing.
But so I'm not mad at those. But the one
thing I'm saying about Trey Lance is usually in NBA
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NFL it would be something when you're a third pick,
we're gonna run, We're gonna exhaust all options with you.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But playing college, though, can you at least acknowledge that
he you.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Know, he was it Peyton Manning esque or you know
some guy coming out Andrew Lock coming out of college.
But I'm saying to Zach Wilson, wasn't that guy coming
out like that? But Zack Wilson gets, you know, got
a couple of years, he got chances better like he had, No,
he had a better year. But I'm saying there have
been other guys who come from smaller schools. You've Ben Roethlisberger,
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Joe Flacko, and we can go down the list of
guys who come Josh Allen who come from smaller people.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Was stunned when the forty nine has moved up to
take him. I mean, I just like what I'm saying
because they're trying to be geniuses.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
If I that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know, owners love to prove themselves right, and you
had to be so bad that they went all the
way up, gave up a bunch to get you, get you,
and then go, no, we're good and credit them because
you and I have talked about how many times if
you make a mistake, you got to own it.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
You got to move on. Joe, what's the quote from
Joe Dumars.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's right. It ain't about being right, it's about getting
it right.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The forty nine ers, because it now here we are.
We're just a what a month or so ago. Brock
Perty just got a big check, so they got their guy.
So credit then for that, because a lot of teams
do what I'm saying. They hold on.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They hold on, and I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Just to just to keep just to prove a point. No, no, no, no,
we got it right. Trust me. Give him some time. No no, no,
we got to right. Let him get healthy. No no, no,
we got to right.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
He was so bad they said, we're willing to move
on and get mister irrelevant here now to the tune
of him getting a big, huge, massive contract. But Ryan Lee,
obviously I'll never be mad at that because the parallels
to him are tied to Peyton Manning too, Like it
wasn't just he was the guy and he failed. The
guy before you the one and two punch, if you will,
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was Peyton Manning and that and that worked out. A
sneaky name in here is a kill Smith if you
remember him, Achille Smith with the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He was a third overall pick back in ninety nine
and he ended up being terrible. And the biggest thing
is the Bengals really were the biggest losers in this
because Mike Dicka was willing to give them nine picks
because he wanted to get Ricky will him so bad.
He was gonna give them nine picks if they if
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he would just for that one swat, And they chose
not to do it because they thought Achille Smith was
gonna be the guy. So that's a massive one because
what could have been And had you gotten all those picks,
you know, and you could have changed the franchise for
a decade.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But Didko made a lot of mistakes? Oh, my god,
but that but he's lucky at the that the Bengals
didn't take it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, so a chilly Smith with the Bengals as a
sleeper one.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But he got hurt early too, didn't he. I remember
him getting.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
He got her. I believe it was his second year.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
But it was a running back from the Bengals on
his first snap from was it running back who got hurt?
Like the first snap from center was almost like the
Aaron Rodgers Johnny Carter? Yeah, right, Like could Johnny Carton?
Like if it was John Carter from Penn State. Yeah,
he was like to be It was like his first snap.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, he was supposed to be that. I mean, he
was that guy in college. But then yeah he Yeah,
he didn't work out in the league. That's the crass wire.
Listen that, Troy. That's why Trey Henderson get your money
when you came, man, you never know what's gonna happen
in this league in his game.
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Speaker 6 (20:12):
Ain't nobody's nipping a box shop.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You know that ain't nobody you were talking about whoever, whatever,
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Speaker 3 (20:20):
Shop talking, that's right? Is shop talk at second where
we talk about something happened outside of the world of sports.
This week's topic comes to us from Southern Connecticut State University.
We got a big deal going on. Everybody golf, Clap
it up. They're gonna name the just Downfield press Box
after the one the only MLB bro himself, Rob Parker
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Park Saturday, October fourth, two pm. They're gonna rename it
the Rob Parker press Box. First, Rob, your thoughts on
this grand honor?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Definitely, Rob g U humble. And when this all came down,
the first thing I thought about was me and my
mom because we took the greyhound bus Kelvin up to
Southern Connecticut for like the journalism orientation and whatnot. And
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you're on that bus and you don't know, you don't
know what's going to happen. You know, my mom wanted
me to take computer science, not because she didn't believe
in me, because she was doing what most parents. Kelvin right.
The logical thing back in the eighties early eighties, computers
are going to be big. You know, they weren't a
lot of black sports writers and whatnot, so that she
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was saying what was logical at that point to her.
But once I made it clear that this is the
career path I wanted, she was all the way in.
And I remember taking that bus ride and thinking, you know,
is this going to turn into a career? Am I
going to have enough money to finish paying for college?
You know, all these question marks? And then here we
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are and in October, this building that I used to
cover my first game and college is now going to
have my name on it outside and inside with a plaque.
And I think it serves as an example of what
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you could do when you follow your dreams and your passion.
And the other thing that is just hard to come
to terms with is the idea that it's forever, you
know what I mean, that something's going to be there
and people many years from now, either a students at
Southern Connecticut State University of new Haven or kids who
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live in New Haven could look up and see that
and go Rob Parker and maybe google it and figure
out who is that. So I'm humble by it, I'm honored,
and you know I've always. I'm thrilled. I've been a
part of Southern Connecticut for a long time and I'm
not a Johnny come lately. I started a scholarship back
in nineteen ninety four years out of college, so I've
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been involved in this university for a long time.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Shout out to Rice, no big shots, congrats, love to
see it. Said it before.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Man, that's you know, it's great to get flowers when
you can not that when people are dead or going
through it.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
It's great to get it now to be able to
enjoy me. It'll smell on me. You enjoy with your
family that moment coming up in October.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
So that's a beautiful thing. Man, it's been. It's been
a great ride for you. So I think it's awesome
that they're honoring you. And I think it's, you know,
great that you again you'll have this moment that people
can look at and you know, cherish man. So congrats
to you, brother, well deserved for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, And it got me thinking of Rob. This is
a long list of accomogiments you have now you have
a whole Wikipedia page of things that you've done have
been celebrated for. But it got me thinking, God, for
everyone else on the show. Rob, you'll go last because
you have too many. Yes, what is the single most
proud moment of your professional career? Because I imagine license
ranking pretty high for you, Rob, So you'll go last,
double start with you.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Man, that's tough, Bro, I'll say that.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Okay, there's so many, but one one more recent that's
kind of a thing is and I think Rob will
be able to relate to this. We've talked about it
being able to bounce back when you were down and
you know, I was at the other place and you know,
moved on from me, and you're like, all right, what
we're gonna do?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
How are we gonna bounce back? And I was able
to bounce.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Back better, stronger in all facets, you know, in all
facets that you can think of, and in the situation
I'm in now. So to me, it was getting that
first real bump in the roll where you're like, dang,
I was just coming up, just making a name, just
finally making a couple of dollars, and you got, you know,
kicked to the curb, if you will, and and able
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to bounce back and out, you know, a handful of
years later and being in a much better position. That
for me personally was was great, A cool, funny one,
I'll say real quick, having somebody you look up to
that you think great and they find out they're a
fan of yours. Subconsciously, I always wanted to do something
like our Citio Hall and having him be already man,
I watch you every day man, you know, and telling
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you you kind of got it.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Somebody you were like that inspired you that that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
All right, let's get to everybody really quickly. Martin Weiss.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
When Goot Shapiro kept asking me what I was doing
on Saturday Night, and I said, Scott, this is getting weird.
And then he said, no, you know what, I want
to give you a show Saturday night. Because he kept
asking me and I was like, Yo, I'm doing you know,
I'm kind of busy, you know, Saturday Night had plans
and not to cancel the plan.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So after a while I was like, Yo, are you
gonna ask me what I'm doing this Saturday on a Monday?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
And he's like, actually, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like for the rest Saturday life obstensibly.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And he was like, you know, I don't want to
give you a show.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Here you go there you go, rob Ge, Alex, let's
go to Alex Alex.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't know if this is really my comics people,
I'm gonna claim it anyways. Okay, So when we first
launched the Odd Couple six years ago, now, one of
our internal goals was, hey, we got to pass Doug
Gottlieb one of the downloads. Yes, we said we got
six months to pass it. I think we docked it
out like in two and a half. And because unlike
other shows I produced, I do have some input on
this one. There's my fingerprints if you look at the
(26:05):
rundown are on it. So I felt like that was
my own personal confiment, like, hey, we had big goals
and I don't need to we get him. We got
them really.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Quickly, no doubt about it, Rob G. You know that
that is definitely the case, Alex quickly.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
So my two, I guess, the sports one is working
on one of the biggest national sports shows, The Herd
Colin Cowherd, and I don't even like sports, so that's
pretty cool. Oh that's dope. And then the other one,
real quick is anime. I literally had two years with
my friend went nowhere. We started, got three hundred thousand followers,
was hosting anime conventions, and it just shows, like like
you said, Rom, if you commit to something, it'll commit
to you.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And for me, you know, there's two. I mean, obviously
this is the biggest, as I said to you before,
because it's forever. And the other one was, of course
being the first black sports columnist at the Detroit Free
Press because the paper was one hundred and sixty one
years old when they hired me. That's crazy, amazing,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Trey Hendrickson has ended his holdout. He will be back
in Cincinnati with the Bengals this upcoming season, so that's
the big headline. But now, in the wake of his reporting,
he's met with the media couple of times, and his
comments about his decision to come back really raise some
eyebrows around here.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Take it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Listen to what he said.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
What I'm not gonna do is as best as I can,
like avoid being a distraction. You know, I want to
help the guys, you know, the guys that have helped
me along the way Tomorrow, Davis, Cam Jordan, even Sam
Hubbard helped me a lot when I was here, So
to be that right now, I think is that's what's
most important. And this narrative will kind of iron itself
out as we continue to progress towards the season, and.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Rob g he wandup called himself, which I didn't hear
in that sound bite.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
He said later that the idea of holding out and
preventing younger players from learning from him is selfish.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Okay, And can I say this to Trey Hendrickson, You're crazy,
your ma sugar naw. All you football players is this on?
Have been brain washed to think that you're doing something wrong.
Your CBA and your players union Kelvin has put them
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in a spot. The only way that they can get
their fair value is to do what Hendrickson did, which
is to hold out. There is no other option. What
do you mean selfish? Selfish is teams that you play
well for them and they tell you, you know what, No,
you can come back, but you gotta take a cut
otherwise we're gonna release you. That's selfish because when you
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played well, they didn't give you any more money or
do anything or let you out of your deal or
bump it up. No, come on, man, football players, I'll
never get it. How are you selfish? The system doesn't
work for you to be for it to be fair
to you. You have no recourse. You have nothing else
(02:29):
you can do other than sitting it out until they
come to their senses and take care of you. I
still don't understand this. They got terrible healthcare, terrible pension,
just terrible everything. The NFL is making money hand over fish.
(02:49):
You got a commission who makes fifty million dollars and
you think you're selfish, that's bread, being brainwashed to think
that you did something wrong. No, you're admirable. You're a
stand up guy to stand up and say I'm not
gonna just fall in line and take whatever you give me.
(03:10):
And I'm just happy to be here and humbled and
yeah whatever, let me let you throw some peanuts at
my feet and I'm good with it. Are you kidding me?
I respect people who are willing to stand up and
do something and say I matter, my value matters. The
reason that the NFL has been able to get away
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with what they've done to these players is because most
of them are cowards and aren't willing to stand up
to ownership, aren't willing to stand up to the union,
aren't willing to stand up to the people that are
the powers that be. That's why they're in such a
bad spot. Because most NFL players are a brainwashed and
(03:55):
be cowards with a capital C. And it's my boggling
when you think about how big and strong and feel
ass these guys are, but when it comes time to
making sure that they have the best contracting deal, they
bow out. I salute you, Trey Hendrickson, you are not
(04:16):
n ot selfish.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, I I was saluting him. The problem why I
got a chill on my salute is because he cowered
down and called himself being a bad guy and I'm
being a bad teammate.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
No, you're not.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
He talked about I want to get back. You know
why I want to get back, and went on show
leadership to the young guys. This is showing leadership to
the young guys. Standing up for yourself is absolutely a
way to do that. You can't be the NFL sack leader.
You can't be one of the best defensive players since
you got there. You're having thirteen plus sacks except once.
You can't be the guy that's sitting around here doing
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all this. When you look at the defensive metrics with
him on the field, it's absolutely astronomical difference than when
he's off. So he knows his worth, he know what
he brings to the Bengals organization. Now, this is an
organization that we know has been historically cheap. This has
been an organization that doesn't pay anybody guarantee contracts outside
of a year for the most part, except quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
So this is to me.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I don't understand why people don't understand this. And this
goes for you listening. This goes for Trey Henderson, this
goes for Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. You have to be
in the business of you. I am in the business
of Kelvin. I'm going to work hard, I'm going to
play it, be a teammate. I'm gonna do absolutely what
I believe it's gonna be best for us, for you,
(05:35):
for me, the odd couple, but iHeart Media is in
business for iHeart and they're gonna do what's best for them.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Kelvin has to do it's best for me.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Trey Henderson has to do its best for him in
the league, especially where you can do all that you can,
like he has, but be making fifteen million dollars. But
all the comparable guys who are doing exactly what you're doing, TJ. Watt,
Miles Miles Garrett are making three times what you're making
just about so advocating for yourself is admirable. Advocating for
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yourself is good business. Advocating for yourself is exactly what
you're supposed to be doing. But somehow, powerful people rob
have always tricked the younger, the little man, and they're
thinking it's everybody's fault but us.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
So you get players who feel bad, Oh, I don't
want to.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I don't want to me take a haircut, Let me
do it for the team. And I don't want to.
I don't want to be the guy that takes all
the money. Ownership takes all the money. They charge people
twenty five dollars for a beer, thank you, They charge
you one hundred dollars apart in a place where there's
no other wor place to park, but at your ballpark
or your stadium or your arena. And then you even
look at powerful politicians, they trick you, pay your taxes,
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do all this. Meanwhile, they've paid seven hundred and fifty dollars,
but they're billionaires and millionaires and I mean literally seven
hundred and fifty dollars in taxes. So somewhere along the line,
ownership always tricks the little man. You give your blood,
sweat and tears for seven years to a team. Six
years to a team you say, hey, I want to
go somewhere else just wasn't working out. They didn't treat
me right, they didn't do all they could. You're the
(07:03):
bad guy. So I don't know how people fall for
the okie dokee every time. Trey Henderson absolutely deserves to
get this money. He absolutely deserves to hold out if
that's what he chooses to do, and he should not
feel bad about it. In fact, he should be. This
is how we do it. This is how we build
unity as a league and as a players association by
doing what's best for us. And I don't get why
(07:23):
he now it's bad leadership. No, bad leadership is how
the Bengals have run their business.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Or bad leadership is what Tom Brady did taking a
hometown discount and then making all the owners go, well,
you see what tom Brady did. He took less. Patrick
mahomes woind up taking less too. No, tom Brady did
an injustice to the rest of the membership. You don't
take less that creates other people having to do that
(07:50):
because he's one of the people that people look up to.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Oh yeah, at his point of doing it justifiable. I
get it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
He wants to keep winning. The problem is to what
you said, They're gonna use that against him. They're gonna
say that against a big body, Right, That's what I'm
saying them, is what I say against them. They're gonna
say the best in the business is doing this. Surely
you can. You know your only player X, your only player,
why you're not Tom Brady if he's doing it, Surely
you can. Yeah, Trey Anderson, I love that he was
(08:17):
standing on business until he stops standing on business on it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
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Speaker 1 (09:35):
Rob g, this game is so meaningless that Trey Lance
is playing. I'm just saying, wow, I mean, let's just
call it what we want.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Do You ain't like black quarterbacks, but dang.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm just saying what.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
That's right?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Trey Lance, the former top three overall pick in the
NFL Draft twenty twenty one. We'll be getting the start
tonight in the Hall of Fame game because just.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Not a brain trust should have been fired years ago,
but they got lucky with the mister irrelevant. That's what
it's still.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Around because Chargers QB one Justin Herbert will not dress.
Chargers QB two. Tyler Heineke is being held out as
just an emergency quarterback, so that means Trey Lance will
be getting the bulk of the snaps tonight. And guys,
a couple hours ago, I put this tweet out, not
thinking much of it until Martin Weiss retweets it and
friend of the show Daniel Kelly retweets it. Apparently I
was onto something. I put out this tweet and let
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you let me know what you guys think. I say,
nobody brings it up because he went number three is
a number one, but Trey Lance has to be the
front runner for the biggest bust in NFL history. Two
teams didn't even need to really see him play to
decide he couldn't play. That's unheard of for a first
round pick. And here's what I mean, guys, Trey Lance
(10:49):
will be entering his fifth NFL season. He's only started
five games in his NFL career, this despite being taken
third overall by the forty nine ers, and famously, as
you guys mentioned, got unsurped my mister irrelevant himself brock
Party in San Francisco got traded to the Dallas Cowboys
(11:09):
for a fourth round pick and a bag of peanuts.
And you would think, hey, Dak Prescott got hurt last year.
I'm sure we saw plenty of Trey Lance in Dallas. No,
they said, hey, Cooper Rush is the guy we want
to see, not the guy we paid a fourth round
pick to get. So I don't think that it's even
a question. I believe Trey Lance is easily the biggest
(11:31):
bus in NFL history.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Your thoughts, Calvin he is, So, I don't think he's
the biggest buss.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'm gonna tell you why. And I thought long and
hard about this. I looked at off scenarios. Here's why
he's the biggest bust. Now he's the quietest bust, and
that is the biggest one. But the reason why he's
so bad that nobody even gives him a chance to play,
and you start digging at some of the other guys,
rob they at least got seasons or another season, two,
(11:59):
three seasons or sixteen eighteen twenty five starts. He don't
even get to start. And he was a third pick
and they moved all the way up to get him.
And part of the Bus part of it is mister
irrelevant took your spot. That's that's you, the guy on
the block. And a nerdy little dude comes and takes
your girl. That can't happen, right, the little lame, nerdy
dude in some nineteen eighties rom com stole your girl,
(12:22):
duck ducky from what is that sweet sixteen or sixteen
candles steals your girl.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
That can't happen. Trey Lancer is so bad.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
He's so bad we actually forget about him because you
remember JaMarcus Russell, You remember a Q.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Smith, You for.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Sure remember Ryan Leaf. We bring these other guys up
when we talk about bus. Trey Lance is so bad
we actually don't forget about him. He's like the football
version of Anthony Bennett. You don't even remember Anthony Bennett.
You talk about OLAA Candy or maybe Ben Simmons when
you talk about bus Mark Hall faults, Anthony Bennet was
so bad you forgot him. And that's what Trey Lance is.
(12:57):
We don't even remember him. So I disappointing how he
doesn't even get a chance to play.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Teams don't even want him.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
And I think that's why for me, because when I
really look at it, other guys at least got fifteen
twenty five starts a few seasons. Usually you get your chances.
You might just suck, but you get your chances. He's
walking up with the clipboard and they saying, nah, bro
we good. And that's to me why he is he
has to be. He doesn't even get a shot. Rob
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everybody else got a shot.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I disagree with you. Here's my problem. Trey Lance to
me was a was questionable at best. Okay, he played
one college season only through the ball. What he had
two hundred and eighty seven attempts, so he wasn't even
really you know what I mean, Like they thought they
were geniuses and they saw something because you remember, the
(13:50):
talk was he hadn't played enough. There wasn't enough tape
on him right, so for him to be drafted for
them to move up and draft him third that's on them.
I don't what's his body of work that you thought, seriously, Kelvin,
he was gonna be something special. He didn't do anything
in college. There was a this was a question mark
(14:11):
from Jump Street. That's why he can't be the biggest bust.
And then you have JaMarcus Russell, of course, who was
the overall number one pick, and that was just a
disaster you from day one. But I still think that
it's this guy who is the biggest bust in NFL history.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Don't talk to me, all right, knock it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Up, Ryan Leave, Don't talk to me like that. Dude
was like was bonkers. He was terrible and he acted
like a baby, you know. He was like he was
unhinged because he was terrible and people were asking questions.
(14:53):
He was a guy right second overall pick, and he
was like this guy where people thought, but you had
a quarterback of the future, like this is the thing
that's different is that people were like, oh my god,
Ryan Leif started only eighteen games four and fourteen. He
(15:14):
was supposed to be the new hotness. He was supposed
to be something special. That's not what Trey Lance was
supposed to be. Nobody that's why. That's why the forty
nine ers people get off Scott free. It is because
he really, if you're honest about it, and I get it,
to be drafted as third and they moved up. And
(15:34):
here's the other part. He didn't play enough for us
to say that he can't play. He got hurt in
his first year. What did he play, rob g Three games?
Remember he played like three games. One was in the rain,
he got hurt and then that was it. They really
didn't give him a chance. Like that's why I can't
believe that he could be considered the greatest bust of
(15:56):
all time. He just did not get a chance to
play enough. Whereas I look at Ryan Leaf, the Ryan.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Leaf has clearly because of all the craziness and the
spiral and the personal life spiral dow. Obviously he's gonna
seem to be in a better place now. If anybody
you know you've seen him speaking was onhand, which he yeah,
and his life went down as well. Some of these guys,
when you look dive deep into it, JaMarcus Russell being another,
I mean coming in twenty at two ninety, coming in
(16:23):
a camp at two ninety is crazy as a quarterback
getting a DVD that has nothing on it and then
they ask you, hey, did you watch the tape? Yeah,
I got I watched the tape. Man, I was you know,
I I saw all the highlights. Oh that dude, that's embarrassing.
But so I'm not mad at those. But the one
thing I'm saying about Trey Lance is usually in NBA
(16:45):
NFL it would be something when you're a third pick,
we're gonna run, We're gonna exhaust all options with you.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But playing college, though, can you at least acknowledge that
he you.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Know, he was it Peyton Manning esque or you know
some guy coming out Andrew Lock coming out of college.
But I'm saying to Zach Wilson, wasn't that guy coming
out like that? But Zack Wilson gets, you know, got
a couple of years, he got chances better like he had, No,
he had a better year. But I'm saying there have
been other guys who come from smaller schools. You've Ben Roethlisberger,
(17:17):
Joe Flacko, and we can go down the list of
guys who come Josh Allen who come from smaller people.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Was stunned when the forty nine has moved up to
take him. I mean, I just like what I'm saying
because they're trying to be geniuses.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
If I that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You know, owners love to prove themselves right, and you
had to be so bad that they went all the
way up, gave up a bunch to get you, get you,
and then go, no, we're good and credit them because
you and I have talked about how many times if
you make a mistake, you got to own it.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
You got to move on. Joe, what's the quote from
Joe Dumars.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's right. It ain't about being right, it's about getting
it right.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The forty nine ers, because it now here we are.
We're just a what a month or so ago. Brock
Perty just got a big check, so they got their guy.
So credit then for that, because a lot of teams
do what I'm saying. They hold on.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
They hold on, and I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Just to just to keep just to prove a point. No, no, no, no,
we got it right. Trust me. Give him some time. No no, no,
we got to right. Let him get healthy. No no, no,
we got to right.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
He was so bad they said, we're willing to move
on and get mister irrelevant here now to the tune
of him getting a big, huge, massive contract. But Ryan Lee,
obviously I'll never be mad at that because the parallels
to him are tied to Peyton Manning too, Like it
wasn't just he was the guy and he failed. The
guy before you the one and two punch, if you will,
(18:34):
was Peyton Manning and that and that worked out. A
sneaky name in here is a kill Smith if you
remember him, Achille Smith with the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He was a third overall pick back in ninety nine
and he ended up being terrible. And the biggest thing
is the Bengals really were the biggest losers in this
because Mike Dicka was willing to give them nine picks
because he wanted to get Ricky will him so bad.
He was gonna give them nine picks if they if
(19:05):
he would just for that one swat, And they chose
not to do it because they thought Achille Smith was
gonna be the guy. So that's a massive one because
what could have been And had you gotten all those picks,
you know, and you could have changed the franchise for
a decade.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
But Didko made a lot of mistakes? Oh, my god,
but that but he's lucky at the that the Bengals
didn't take it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, so a chilly Smith with the Bengals as a
sleeper one.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But he got hurt early too, didn't he. I remember
him getting.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
He got her. I believe it was his second year.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
But it was a running back from the Bengals on
his first snap from was it running back who got hurt?
Like the first snap from center was almost like the
Aaron Rodgers Johnny Carter? Yeah, right, Like could Johnny Carton?
Like if it was John Carter from Penn State. Yeah,
he was like to be It was like his first snap.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, he was supposed to be that. I mean, he
was that guy in college. But then yeah he Yeah,
he didn't work out in the league. That's the crass wire.
Listen that, Troy. That's why Trey Henderson get your money
when you came, man, you never know what's gonna happen
in this league in his game.
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Speaker 6 (20:12):
Ain't nobody's nipping a box shop.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You know that ain't nobody you were talking about whoever, whatever,
whatever you want to in the box, why you not wait?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Shop talking, that's right? Is shop talk at second where
we talk about something happened outside of the world of sports.
This week's topic comes to us from Southern Connecticut State University.
We got a big deal going on. Everybody golf, Clap
it up. They're gonna name the just Downfield press Box
after the one the only MLB bro himself, Rob Parker
(20:41):
Park Saturday, October fourth, two pm. They're gonna rename it
the Rob Parker press Box. First, Rob, your thoughts on
this grand honor?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Definitely, Rob g U humble. And when this all came down,
the first thing I thought about was me and my
mom because we took the greyhound bus Kelvin up to
Southern Connecticut for like the journalism orientation and whatnot. And
(21:11):
you're on that bus and you don't know, you don't
know what's going to happen. You know, my mom wanted
me to take computer science, not because she didn't believe
in me, because she was doing what most parents. Kelvin right.
The logical thing back in the eighties early eighties, computers
are going to be big. You know, they weren't a
lot of black sports writers and whatnot, so that she
(21:34):
was saying what was logical at that point to her.
But once I made it clear that this is the
career path I wanted, she was all the way in.
And I remember taking that bus ride and thinking, you know,
is this going to turn into a career? Am I
going to have enough money to finish paying for college?
You know, all these question marks? And then here we
(21:55):
are and in October, this building that I used to
cover my first game and college is now going to
have my name on it outside and inside with a plaque.
And I think it serves as an example of what
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you could do when you follow your dreams and your passion.
And the other thing that is just hard to come
to terms with is the idea that it's forever, you
know what I mean, that something's going to be there
and people many years from now, either a students at
Southern Connecticut State University of new Haven or kids who
(22:37):
live in New Haven could look up and see that
and go Rob Parker and maybe google it and figure
out who is that. So I'm humble by it, I'm honored,
and you know I've always. I'm thrilled. I've been a
part of Southern Connecticut for a long time and I'm
not a Johnny come lately. I started a scholarship back
in nineteen ninety four years out of college, so I've
(22:58):
been involved in this university for a long time.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Shout out to Rice, no big shots, congrats, love to
see it. Said it before.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Man, that's you know, it's great to get flowers when
you can not that when people are dead or going
through it.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
It's great to get it now to be able to
enjoy me. It'll smell on me. You enjoy with your
family that moment coming up in October.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
So that's a beautiful thing. Man, it's been. It's been
a great ride for you. So I think it's awesome
that they're honoring you. And I think it's, you know,
great that you again you'll have this moment that people
can look at and you know, cherish man. So congrats
to you, brother, well deserved for sure.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, And it got me thinking of Rob. This is
a long list of accomogiments you have now you have
a whole Wikipedia page of things that you've done have
been celebrated for. But it got me thinking, God, for
everyone else on the show. Rob, you'll go last because
you have too many. Yes, what is the single most
proud moment of your professional career? Because I imagine license
ranking pretty high for you, Rob, So you'll go last,
double start with you.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Man, that's tough, Bro, I'll say that.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Okay, there's so many, but one one more recent that's
kind of a thing is and I think Rob will
be able to relate to this. We've talked about it
being able to bounce back when you were down and
you know, I was at the other place and you know,
moved on from me, and you're like, all right, what
we're gonna do?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
How are we gonna bounce back? And I was able
to bounce.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Back better, stronger in all facets, you know, in all
facets that you can think of, and in the situation
I'm in now. So to me, it was getting that
first real bump in the roll where you're like, dang,
I was just coming up, just making a name, just
finally making a couple of dollars, and you got, you know,
kicked to the curb, if you will, and and able
(24:40):
to bounce back and out, you know, a handful of
years later and being in a much better position. That
for me personally was was great, A cool, funny one,
I'll say real quick, having somebody you look up to
that you think great and they find out they're a
fan of yours. Subconsciously, I always wanted to do something
like our Citio Hall and having him be already man,
I watch you every day man, you know, and telling
(25:03):
you you kind of got it.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Somebody you were like that inspired you that that was awesome.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
All right, let's get to everybody really quickly. Martin Weiss.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
When Goot Shapiro kept asking me what I was doing
on Saturday Night, and I said, Scott, this is getting weird.
And then he said, no, you know what, I want
to give you a show Saturday night. Because he kept
asking me and I was like, Yo, I'm doing you know,
I'm kind of busy, you know, Saturday Night had plans
and not to cancel the plan.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So after a while I was like, Yo, are you
gonna ask me what I'm doing this Saturday on a Monday?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
And he's like, actually, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like for the rest Saturday life obstensibly.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
And he was like, you know, I don't want to
give you a show.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Here you go there you go, rob Ge, Alex, let's
go to Alex Alex.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't know if this is really my comics people,
I'm gonna claim it anyways. Okay, So when we first
launched the Odd Couple six years ago, now, one of
our internal goals was, hey, we got to pass Doug
Gottlieb one of the downloads. Yes, we said we got
six months to pass it. I think we docked it
out like in two and a half. And because unlike
other shows I produced, I do have some input on
this one. There's my fingerprints if you look at the
(26:05):
rundown are on it. So I felt like that was
my own personal confiment, like, hey, we had big goals
and I don't need to we get him. We got
them really.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Quickly, no doubt about it, Rob G. You know that
that is definitely the case, Alex quickly.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
So my two, I guess, the sports one is working
on one of the biggest national sports shows, The Herd
Colin Cowherd, and I don't even like sports, so that's
pretty cool. Oh that's dope. And then the other one,
real quick is anime. I literally had two years with
my friend went nowhere. We started, got three hundred thousand followers,
was hosting anime conventions, and it just shows, like like
you said, Rom, if you commit to something, it'll commit
to you.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
And for me, you know, there's two. I mean, obviously
this is the biggest, as I said to you before,
because it's forever. And the other one was, of course
being the first black sports columnist at the Detroit Free
Press because the paper was one hundred and sixty one
years old when they hired me. That's crazy, amazing,
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