August 4, 2025 • 37 mins
Former NFL safety and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Kerry Rhodes is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob tell us why it's becoming more and more apparent that Shedeur Sanders is the odd man out in the Cleveland Browns quarterback race, what -if anything - we can learn from NFL training camp practice results, how much blame Rob Manfred deserves for the MLB Speedway debacle over the weekend, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob's nightly bets.
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Kerry Roads, former NFL safety of course with the Jets
and the Cardinals. Mister Kerry Roads, Carrie, how are you hey?
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Man?
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Always good to sit in with you and be, you know,
around your greatness.
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So I'm here.
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I'm just I'm just trying to support you in any
way I can, man, and I appreciate you, you know
that always. And we always have fun when we are
mixing it up and talking about all kinds of stuff.
We have a big show coming up on this Magic
City Monday. I'm on my way to Atlanta. Matter of fact,
tomorrow you're out to Atlanta. Yeah, I'm going to Atlanta first,
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and then I'm going to Cleveland for the National Association
of Black Journalists Convention, which is taking place in Cleveland.
It's the fiftieth anniversary of the NABJ when it was
formed and some black writers got together and put it
together fifty years later, and I've been going since nineteen
eighty eight, and I it's it's it's a must if
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you're in this business, you know what I mean. That's
as far as being a young person who's taking up
journalism of communications and that's what you're trying to do
because it just opens up so many doors and avenues
and you get to meet so many people. So it's
something that's very important to me and I will love
be heading there. But Magic City Monday, I don't know
if I might make a stop over.
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I don't know.
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Did I get to have singles in my bag? I
gotta think about it. If you don't, Rob, you got them,
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Speaker 4 (04:11):
Carry we got a lot to talk about, and obviously
it's great to have you here with training camp and
everything happening in the NFL and the start of the
season you know, coming sooner than later and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But let's start here, Rob g clue us in on what's.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Going on with Shadoor Sanders and the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Sure, so, as we've talked about at nauseum now since
the start of rookie mini camp in the full training camp,
Shador Sanders has been the talk of the town in
Cleveland during all fats his camp because he has been,
without a doubt, been performing statistically as the best quarterback
there in camp, both in mini camp and here in
training camp. The only problem is something that Rob Parker
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has harped on at nauseum is that he's still is
the only quarterback in rookie camp and here in training
camp who has not gotten a single rep with the
first string Brown's offense. So late last week, Schador told
reporters in Cleveland, you know, I don't really don't want
to have my dad here in camp. You know, he's
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doing some stuff right now. He's got his own fish
to fry over there in Boulder. Today, he was pressed
to get about it again, asked, why is it specifically
that you do not want to see your dad here
on the sidelines at Cleveland training camp.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Here's what you do.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Try to say, I don't want him coming to see
me right now because I want to get to where
I want to go in for him to see me.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
You know, get a couple of reps, and you know
he's cheering like a good dad, Like, Nah, you can't
be proud of me right now. I gotta get to
where I'm going, and I know it's a lot I
gotta do to get there. So it's kind of like
I just want everything that I'm doing is just like
focus on this time. And I don't want to know
distraction because we know out of media, we know how
everybody would take it and take away from the team
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just from him being my own dad showing up. So
you know, it's a gift that occurrese at the same time.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
All right, Carrie, Uh, I'm gonna say this, shador Sanders
sounds like a cop, you know how, because basically he's saying,
nothing to see here, keep it moving. There's nothing to
see here. You heard the cops before. They've shoot you
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away or shooed you away from a situation or a circumstance.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Keep it moving. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
And he's absolutely right, there is nothing to see because
the Cleveland Browns have refused, for whatever reason, which I
think is obvious now, to give him first team reps.
Like Carrie, you you played in the National Football League
when they have decided that everybody else, how are you
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in a football quarterback competition with four guys. The other
three guys have gotten first team reps and you've gotten
zero mini camp and now here we are in training camp.
So the Browns can say whatever they want, but they've
said what I think is obvious. He has a great
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chance of being cut and not being on his team.
It doesn't make any sense. It's practice carry you know this.
What is the harm on getting the guy a few
reps with the first team?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What is the harm? And he better be lighting it up.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
All these chadorf Sanders, flackies, flunkys, fans whatever you want
to call him.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Look at these numbers. You have the best numbers your camp,
or look how goody please?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
He better have the best numbers against the third and
four strings and guys who are gonna be working at
mobile gas station at other places. If you don't have
the numbers against him, what then didn't you have no shot?
So you should be at least shining against the people
still trying on the bubble, trying to make it carry.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
All I'm saying is Buffalo, I mean Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Cleveland can say there's a quarterback competition. I don't see
it involving Shador Sanders. I just don't see it because
it doesn't cost you anything to put the kid out there.
And I'm gonna give you two reasons why I still
don't believe he's gonna be on his team. I don't
care what you invested. I don't care if you traded
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for Kenny Pickett. I don't care about Joe Flacco's championship.
I don't care about Dylan Gabriel was drafted in the
third round. I don't care about any of that. Because
when Russell Wilson showed up the Seattle after they played
Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Do you remember that a ton of money he showed
up with a.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Peak I'll do oh no, oh no, no, we'll just
have to eat the money. And that kid's playing. Okay,
stop number two. Tom Brady's your mentor. He don't believe
in you, Carrie, you're the Raiders. Don't tell me about
Geno Smith. Oh my god, well they already have Gino
(09:21):
Smith is fine for now, long term if Tom Brady,
who was a sixth round pick, not a fifth, a
sixth round pick, anybody's supposed to be like sympathetic and
understand what could happen with it's Tom Brady. You're working
out with the kid, you're his mentor, you've seen him,
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you know his desire, you know what he's done. And
the Raiders have plenty of picks, and they decided to
pass on your door.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Not hate.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm just reading the tea leaves. That's all I'm gonna say. No,
I mean, you're right.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
The best player eventually is gonna get those reps and
be the starter. Right, That's how it works. That's how
it works. It doesn't matter where you are. I was
a fourth round pick and started from day one. I mean,
that's just how it is, and it was better than
those other guys who weren't fun of you exactly. So
it's like the competition part of it, I understand, and
what you just you made a great point of, Yes,
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his numbers in the stats should be better than the starters.
They're playing against the first defense and he's playing against
the second or third or what fourth defense in that part.
So even like I'm gonna bring it back to me,
then I'm gonna go back to him. So like as
a as a fourth round pick go in, you go
into the first preseason game and you're playing against preseason guys.
You're not playing against the starters. I'm running around thinking,
this is this is easy. I'm meant to be here.
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This is what I do. I run this show. And
then we get the week one against Kansas City against
the against the real real deal, right the big boy, like,
oh coach, so I am I still starting next week.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's how I roll.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
And so for Shador, for him, he just got to
keep his head down and work and keep doing what
he has to do. Like you said, I mean, it's
so many quarterbacks, obviously somebody's has to be the odd
person out.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
And you know, they're not taking four quarterbacks. Come on, no, no, no,
they're not going to take right, It doesn't make any sense.
You can't eat up a roster spot for a guy
who's not going.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
To see the field.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, I mean the only thing I could see that
could keep him there would be the practice squad, which
I'm sure he wouldn't want to be a part of.
So you know, if he's a practice squad guy, he's
not on the active roster, so they can still keep
him as that foot, but he.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Wouldn't be and you wouldn't be an NFL player right
until you play, until you play, am I right, Like
you're not in the league. There are guys who are
on practice, yes, until you play in a real NFL game, exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you can also see the disconnector, right,
Jimmy Haslam, the owner already said that that wasn't this guy.
So that was interesting, Yeah, because if the owner says that,
then you already know and we know this most of
the time, the owner of the GM and the quarterback
is all connected. Right, if you're going to invest in
the GM, you want that GM to invest in the
quarterback and that chain of command, that chain of operation
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is one that should be a solid footing.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Jimmy had no problem telling you when he got Sean
Watson exactly that was his guy blew up in his face,
and that's my point.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, But but here he's like, oh no, I had
nothing to do with.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
This one hundred percent, So he's already removed himself from
the equation, right. And then the other part of it
is the comments that should door said. The only thing
he I there was two things I thought when he
first said it. At first, when he said it not
today or yesterday, whenever that sound was. I think he
was protecting his dad. So his dad was going through
things and the media didn't know about it. The world
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didn't know about it, so I think he was covering
that up. But this second comment, he's right, like, I
have not done anything and my dad doesn't want to
be here.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But when you unveil.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
That, all he's saying is you guys already think I'm
a distraction. So if I bring my dad and he
comes in and he piles on top of that, the
media is gonna run with it. So I think that's
the other part, the other layer of that. It's not
about him not being getting reps. It's about the clown
show that comes along with it. And that's the reason
why it's pretty obvious if you're not going to make
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sur door your quarterback and that you don't want him around.
And it's not just him, because nobody wanted Tim Tebow
around where every conversation everything is about Tim t Is
he going to get the quarterback?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Those two?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Is TBO going to get in? Did you think about
putting t Bow in the second half?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And there's reporters around his locker every day, you know, like,
that's not what you want.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And that's what you just And that's one hundred percent correct.
If the quarterback that's the guy, he's going to get attention,
that's inherent, right. But if the fourth string guys are
getting the same questions that that first string guy would
have gotten, it's such a distraction in general, I.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Agree, and that's why I think people got too caught up.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
There were only three or four teams really looking for
a quarterback, so that was one thing. So when all
he got passed over by all these teams, no, they
weren't looking for quarterback, So it looks worse than it
really is. And the ones who were they didn't really
want if he wasn't going to be You saw the
Giants move up. You saw, uh who else moved up
to take a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Somebody else?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And then yeah, you know, like they moved up so
they had somebody who they really wanted and they went
after him.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And I'm with you. People can make all the excuses,
and they are.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're trying to they're trying to put him in his place, like, no,
this is the NFL where GM's and coaches are trying
to keep their gigs and trying to win games. And
I just want nobody can can dispute my Matt Flynn
take because it's real and they had something invested, they
had money and everything. And he had set the record
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for touchdowns in the game by by a Packer's quarterback
and bart start, I mean, uh yeah, all those great
quarterbacks who played there, right, and he had the record,
and when he got to Seattle, they were like, oh
wait a minute, that kid right there.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's got something, he got something, And that's
how it is.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
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Will Shador Sanders make the fifty three man roster in Cleveland?
Or does he know he's the odd man out and
that's why he's kind of playing it like that. I
don't want dad to come here and all that other stuff.
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number Shador Sanders. We're gonna talk with Jay Crawford. Well,
I used to do co pizza with first Take with
j Uh in Cleveland. Yeah, I've done cold pizza a
couple of times, the host of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Uh, he's gonna give us some insight as well.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Nice. You know how these training camps go. If you're
shu door and you're not, they they just haven't put
you out there yet. What's going on in his head?
He knows better, am I right? Like as a football player, Yeah,
I mean he's got I'm not out there.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, he's gotten.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I mean obviously he has his dad, right, I'm sure
his dad has given him all the uh the information,
the tit bits that he needs. But I mean for
him personally, he can't worry about you know what, He's
not getting right. Now, he can only control what he
can control. And so the fact that he is playing
well with the third and fourth string or whatever it
is and putting up numbers. You got to remember, there's
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a lot of other teams out there, right, and so
once you get into these training camps, you want to play,
You want to put your best foot forward, play well,
give your give yourself a chance to win the games.
Do start in training camp in preseason to go out
there and ball out, because again, you're not just only
playing for the Cleveland Browns, right, He's playing for all
the other teams out there. So if they get some
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good footage on him out there, maybe he ends up
in a better situation.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Now here's my thing. Yeah, here's the issue I have.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yep, for the Chador fans, and I get it, you
pull him for a guy I'm not come on.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I get that. But here's my thing.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, so if he goes out and has a bad game,
people will say, well, what do you want? It's his
first game, Okay, but if he balls out, see out
of proportion?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Am I right?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Like it?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
To me? That's where I have the issue.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
When Cooper Flag had his first game, I ripped on
him for that terrible shooting, and people are.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Like, dude, it's only one game.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
What do you want?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I said, dude, if you would score forty, you would
have gone crazy the other way.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So which one is it? Then? You know, does it
matter or it doesn't matter? It does?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It only matter if you play well, and it doesn't
matter if you play poorly. That's the part that I
have I struggle with because I think people are so
apt to want to trumpet somebody when it's good and
then pooh, pooh, a bad effort.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah we're hot, take USA anyway, right, So people are
trying to get in front of the story and have
their own particular spin on it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So that's just how we are right now. But again, yeah,
I mean, this thing is, this is a journey. Doesn't
matter who you are, doesn't matter if you're Tom Brady,
doesn't matter if your should do a Sanders Like Tom
Brady didn't come out and start right away. It took
a catastrophic injury for him to even get on the field.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So and you don't even know how his life would
have changed had Drew bloodsoe that's say healthy, You don't
even you have no idea, no because he.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Wasn't even even at Michigan.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
You remember that it was Drew Henson and they were
like trying everybody. Tom Brady was in the mix, but
he wasn't like it.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Was never the God, never heard of God. I mean
even early on there, he wasn't the guy. It didn't
even didn't even look like the guy.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
And even said he always had a dad, Bob before
he had kids. He and you're very true.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I mean, I know the picture that circulates all over
his rookie picture.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It was terrible. But we all have those moments, some
of us still have them.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
No, but it's it's a beautiful thing though, man, I
mean when you get to go through the through the
journey and through the wars shador. I mean, you know,
if he was to hear this, just for him, keep grinding, man,
this isn't this isn't the one stop shop.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Keep bawling and prove everybody wrong, but prove people right
as well, no doubt. All right, let's get you caught up.
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Speaker 3 (20:44):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It is the Odd Couple on a Magic City Monday,
Rob Parker and Kerry Rhoades filling in for Kelvin Washington,
and uh, we were just talking about the football cam.
We're hoping they will talk with Jay Crawford who's in Cleveland.
As we both know Jay and work with him over
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the years, back in the old days at esp old days,
that's right when that cole Pizza was in the day.
They were good, the salad days we had plenty. But
football camp it's I know, it's not the same as
it used to. People used to work themselves into shape.
I remember when you stayed there, slept in dormitories. Yes,
(21:28):
am I right, Like it was a totally different, totally
different kind of thing. And I just always wonder, like
I understand, you know, things things get better and improvements
and all that other stuff, but all the working out,
all the other stuff off season and personal trainers and
all that other stuff that come. I think it's changed
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as far as people being heard or over working out over.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You know, is it too much? Rob?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Some things don't need to change, But that's training camp
is exactly what you said. Both to get into shape right,
you need the attrition that happened throughout camp right mentally physically,
like your body has to adjust to the long haul
which the season is. And so we talk about trying
to you know, player safety and all these things. The
(22:20):
head thing I understand one hundred percent. I'm very on
board with protecting the heads. But other than that, like
you need to be in full pads, you need to tackle,
you need to a day, you need to play football,
you need you have to play football. There's no way
around playing tackle football and avoiding injury. So if you
don't give your body the chance to kind of acclimate
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to that, you see that the injuries are even more
catastrophic now than they were back in the day.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
And that's what I'm crazy. I don't know where the
science doesn't make sense to me. You like smart people
being too smart for themselves exactly. They think like I
see people. There used to be a time where football
season came, all right, the season's over, put on ten
pounds eight cheesecake.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It didn't you know what I mean, You didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No, these guys are on video doing the training, but
the season just ended. And they got the trainers and
their nutrition. They won't go on vacation. No, they won't
do anything. And I'm just like, does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
All right?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Alice in Pittsburgh, you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
What's up? Alice?
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Hey, Hi guys, how are.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You are good? How are you good? How are you?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
It's football season again?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
So I'm happy, Oh, I know you are.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I'm going to training camp on Wednesday. You're talking about
training Camp's not the same that they used to stand dorms.
The Steelers still stay in the dorms at college there.
You go, Okay, So they stay there in the dorm
the whole time. They show them moving in all their
like TV's and all their stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I think a lot of teams have moved away from them.
I'm surprised to know the Steelers still do that.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Yeah, the Steelers still do that. Open to the public
certain days of the week. So I'm going when I
have tickets for Wednesday and we just go there and
watch some practice for the day.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
In the tickets, do they charge you, Alice?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Or it is just tickets so that they know how
many just so they know how many people are coming in, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I was gonna say, come on.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
You just have to register a ticketmaster. But yeah, we
still do that. I don't know how many teams do that.
I don't think many do it anymore. But most of
the guys stand there the whole time too.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Alice, I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I give you a lot of football fans who go
to practice and training.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Can I give you credit?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm I'm dead here because because Alice, I'm gonna tell
nobody was a bigger football fan. When I was in
high school. Okay, I used to work at a shoe
store at the mall. I wouldn't work on Sundays during football.
So you know, when you work at a mall, you
got to walk on the weekends. I was like, no, no,
no September through December. No Sundays, I'm watching football. My
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mom used to Alice, let me leave church. I went
to a Baptist church. Baptist church is three hours.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I know.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You know that, Alice all day and I'm like, ma,
I got to see the kickoff?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Can you let me duck out? And you will let me?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Really, I want to know, Alice, So are you going
to camp? Who are you excited to see? I mean,
I know you got a lot of a lot of
ad dishes.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
I'm excited to see DK. I'm excited to see our
new running back, Cale Johnson. I really like him too.
Else do I like Jaylen Samuel. I'm excited to see
Aaron even because you know what, I hear that everybody
loves him and he loves Pittsburgh, which is I shouldn't
expect it at all. I thought he would come here
like cranky and no, because.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
You know what he was in Green Bay and and
and carry will tell you this, Aaron rubbed a lot
of people the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But the people have played with him. Have you talked
to his teammates.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
No, I've never heard anybody say like they like he
can't play or doesn't isn't a team god?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, he is a good He's a good dude.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Tom He loves Tomlin and Tomlin loves him.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh no, they got a man crush other guy. I
know all of them very very well. They're all good dudes.
Am all right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
How have you guys been?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Everything is good, Alice. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
We always thanks for calling in, Thanks for all the support,
Thanks to sate you and and uh the uh, I
was gonna say, oh, the thing that I thought was
really classy, rob g I don't know if you saw
this as well. So you know, Terry Bradshaw went off
on Aaron and he was so classy in his response.
(26:30):
He could have shredded you know what I mean. He
shredded him, yes, okay, and he just refused. He's a
legend if you ever take some time to get to
know me or whatever. I thought that was the right
way to do it. There was no reason to go
back at a seventy eight year old man and you
know what I mean and put his stats and ask
him how much he did this and that, and you know,
(26:52):
could have could have painted his career totally different. Aaron
is a good guy. I know him very well.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
We came and we were it's crazy to think of
this though, but we came in the same year, okay,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Still so that. But like you talk about the good guy.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
After the season, I had a had a charity event
in Louisville, Oh, for the Kentucky Derby. You had like
I did, like a football camp. A lot of players came,
but some people on vacation and.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You couldn't go right he came, Aaron came, spoke throwing
the ball with the kids for that, just like that's
who he is, I know, and I get it, like
people get caught up because of some of the darkest
thing and all the other stuff, and I and I
get it, and they and they they want to paint
him as that.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know, the whole thing about it if you didn't
know that stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
But what would your what would your opinion be would
be totally different, right, That's what and that's what that's
the thing I hate they painted however they want to
paint it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I told people all the time, it wasn't that
long ago when he had a real shot at being
the Jeopardy host.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You remember that when he was like, like you have
to be likable.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You know, they can't put you on a game show
that's going to be on and half the people. This
not like sports talk radio. You don't know what everybody
will like you. So it's very interesting. I just thought
that sound was good.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like like I was.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I thought he took the high road and was like,
Terry up, if you want to meet me and get
to know me or whatever, I'm open to it.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You're a legend. You paved the way.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
It was really really well done and diffused everything. I
don't know what is it If you're Terry Bradshaw, what
do you say? Like you come to practice and pat
him on the back and say, what's up. I'm Terry
Bradshaw and I introduced yourself that way and have a
real conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's how it should be.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
All this stuff that happens in the media and goes,
you know, from play, especially from the player perspective, like
you're sending messages or but that that's weird.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
That's my biggest issue is as much as the media.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And I'm talking about trained journalists and professionals, not because
you have a blog, not because you have a podcast,
not the course. I'm talking about people went to school
and have some skin in the game. If you're you're
just sending stuff from a blog, making up stuff and
throwing it out up against the wall, I'm not talking
about those people, talking about people work for reputable companies
(29:07):
that if you make a mistake, someone's gonna get sued, okay,
and you're gonna get fired. Like those are the places
I'm talking about. And the player on player hate is
just through the roof and it's disrespectful. And that's why
I think a lot of guys aren't really built for
this business because they have skin in the game and
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they can't be real. You know, if you're Cam Newton,
you can't say Jalen Hurts. It's not that Jalen Hurts
can't be in your top ten. That's not if you
make the case and you want to put other people.
But his reasoning about the great team he has around him,
(29:51):
just that can't be because everybody's wont the Super Bowl.
Guess what, they had a great team around them, So
that argument doesn't work. And number two coming off that
Super Bowl carry This is where I had an issue.
It was a Saquon Barkley show, right, oh right, oh yeah,
all they gotta do. I know that the per formula
to beat the Eagles stack the box and make uh
(30:16):
Jalen Hurst ow the football. Guess what, Saquon has forty
yards and they win the Super Bowl easily. Yes, And
he threw the ball and made the throws he called
out and the Super Bowl they lost to the Chief.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He played my home.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So when I like to have Cam say that stuff
doesn't make any sense to me other than jealousy. And
I don't know mad that he didn't win a Super Bowl,
Mad that you know people still remember him not falling
on the loose.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Ball or whatever it is. And and and I think
that's bad.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And I'll say this, I don't even think it's jealousy, Robert.
I think it's because we all play in different times.
We're all asked to do different things. Right, So when
Cam looks at Jalen, their games are similar. So he
would just, in his own like ego way, like ego
maniac way, put himself in Jalen Hurt's position and say
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what he would have done. But it just doesn't work
that way. I can talk about safeties now and be
like I could do that. It doesn't matter though our
time has passed.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You can.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You can give people your flowers without like selling yourself
short in the same breath. And I think that's what
other good players that talk about other players. I think
that's part of the problem. And here's the other thing,
too real quick. I only hear it in the NBA.
I heard a lot in the NBA. And now you're
hearing football.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Where you need to bash other people came before you
to make you look like That's what I'm like, Like
like and I you know, I'm being a baseball guy.
Never ever ever heard anybody say babe roots would be
a bum today?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Like, like why would you have to tear down babe rude?
Or you talk to player, they'll tell you right away
Barry Bond's the best player I ever saw. You know
what I mean, like like without even hesitation. Yeah, and
yet I hear in the NBA, or they gotta trash
this guy.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You're gonna track in the NFL. That trashing this guy?
That guy. I just don't understand that. I think something's
wrong now, Yeah, I think it's It has to be
what you just said.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
It has to be a valid reason for for your argument, right,
like not just based off what that person's doing now
and what you've done or what you could have done.
Like it's not that doesn't matter. If the reason is
a valid reason why you don't want to be in
the top ten, matter perfectly fun. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not I'm not saying he oh no, he's ridiculous.
You can't mean the top No. The only one I'll
(32:41):
say to that was when Shack didn't have cream. Abdude
with the bar in the top ten. I can't get
with that.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
All right, It is the Odd Couple eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox and baseball fans are mad at
the wrong guy, and we'll.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Explain that coming up next.
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Speaker 5 (33:27):
Rob, this sounds like it's going to be uh playing
Monday at Magic City.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Is that right? It sounds like that type of rus
Patty Cake Wiga wig.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
All right, and now it is uh wait, we should
it's time for Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Welcome. All right, let's do a little Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
The other night, I was uh two in one that
takes me to one eighty two and one eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I know it ain't good. I was about to say, man,
that is I need to get back. I need to
get back. I need a hot streak going.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Here announced this next week. Then all right, here we go.
I'm gonna take the Yankees minus one and a half.
That's my best bet. They swept in Miami. Bad weekend
for the Bronx Bombers. They're in Texas taking on the Rangers.
Yankees minus one and a half is my best bet.
I got the Cubs at home hosting the Reds. Take
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the Cubs minus one and a half runs, and I
got the Blue Jays minus one and a half. They're
in Denver taking on the Colorado Rockies. So again, Yankees
minus one and a half is the best bet. At
the Texas Rangers. I'm taking the Cubs minus one and
a half hosting the Reds, and I'm taking the Blue
(35:00):
Jays minus one and a half. They're on the road
in Denver against the Colorado Rockies. And remember this carry
what's that. I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. All right, you
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Speaker 3 (35:17):
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towering solo home run just to the left of the
batter's eye doubles the lead in the eighth with his
thirty eighth home run of the season.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
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(36:08):
and Bristol, Tennessee were mad. Carry eighty five thousand people
bought tickets, the largest crowd for a baseball game, and
everything got messed up because of the rain. And the
game was supposed to be played Saturday.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
They play the Sunday.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
But people are mad at Rob Manford. They want his
buns because they ran out of hot dog buns. How
was he to blame? The commissioner doesn't buy the buns.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
They didn't know they were gonna And you know what
probably happened.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
What happened the rain delay on Saturday, right, Rob g
people while.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Was indefinite at one point, right, So people were eating,
you know, like getting cover, so that they decided, okay.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
We'll eat while we're waiting for this rain to stop,
and they ate all the buns. They had more hot
dogs than buns, so they were selling hot dogs without buns.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
And they ran out of nacho cheese for the nachos,
and they had the nachos without the cheese. Yeah, yeah, buns,
you can keep that. I don't want any glizzies. So
you guys are good. But that's like, that's like that's
like airplane.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
You remember when in the movie where the.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Meteors are hitting upside the.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Spaceship or whatever art and they're like, are you being
honest with you telling us everything that's going on here?
And then they go, all right, one more thing, we're
out of coffee, and they go preserve. Not that they're
gonna crash all right, right, right, but to blame Rob
Manford for the hot dog buns and the nacho cheese stopping,
I'm blaming them.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
If you're gonna take them to that big old speedway
place where ninety ninety five thousand people have enough buns man.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You can run out of buns bunce it happens.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Hey, you can't run out of buns. Not in Magic City, though.
That's what I have to here. You go, all right,
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Carrie did you know that? On the planet?
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Let's go big show and let me welcome in my
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He is.
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Kerry Roads, former NFL safety of course with the Jets
and the Cardinals. Mister Kerry Roads, Carrie, how are you hey?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Man?
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Always good to sit in with you and be, you know,
around your greatness.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
So I'm here.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I'm just I'm just trying to support you in any
way I can, man, and I appreciate you, you know
that always. And we always have fun when we are
mixing it up and talking about all kinds of stuff.
We have a big show coming up on this Magic
City Monday. I'm on my way to Atlanta. Matter of fact,
tomorrow you're out to Atlanta. Yeah, I'm going to Atlanta first,
(02:49):
and then I'm going to Cleveland for the National Association
of Black Journalists Convention, which is taking place in Cleveland.
It's the fiftieth anniversary of the NABJ when it was
formed and some black writers got together and put it
together fifty years later, and I've been going since nineteen
eighty eight, and I it's it's it's a must if
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you're in this business, you know what I mean. That's
as far as being a young person who's taking up
journalism of communications and that's what you're trying to do
because it just opens up so many doors and avenues
and you get to meet so many people. So it's
something that's very important to me and I will love
be heading there. But Magic City Monday, I don't know
if I might make a stop over.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Did I get to have singles in my bag? I
gotta think about it. If you don't, Rob, you got them,
that's right, all right? Well, let's welcome in the Odd
Couple crew, because you wouldn't be able to do this
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Speaker 3 (04:03):
Why you bug in there? You go? Yes? Indeed, So.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Carry we got a lot to talk about, and obviously
it's great to have you here with training camp and
everything happening in the NFL and the start of the
season you know, coming sooner than later and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But let's start here, Rob g clue us in on what's.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Going on with Shadoor Sanders and the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Sure, so, as we've talked about at nauseum now since
the start of rookie mini camp in the full training camp,
Shador Sanders has been the talk of the town in
Cleveland during all fats his camp because he has been,
without a doubt, been performing statistically as the best quarterback
there in camp, both in mini camp and here in
training camp. The only problem is something that Rob Parker
(04:56):
has harped on at nauseum is that he's still is
the only quarterback in rookie camp and here in training
camp who has not gotten a single rep with the
first string Brown's offense. So late last week, Schador told
reporters in Cleveland, you know, I don't really don't want
to have my dad here in camp. You know, he's
(05:16):
doing some stuff right now. He's got his own fish
to fry over there in Boulder. Today, he was pressed
to get about it again, asked, why is it specifically
that you do not want to see your dad here
on the sidelines at Cleveland training camp.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Here's what you do.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Try to say, I don't want him coming to see
me right now because I want to get to where
I want to go in for him to see me.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I don't want him to come and see me.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
You know, get a couple of reps, and you know
he's cheering like a good dad, Like, Nah, you can't
be proud of me right now. I gotta get to
where I'm going, and I know it's a lot I
gotta do to get there. So it's kind of like
I just want everything that I'm doing is just like
focus on this time. And I don't want to know
distraction because we know out of media, we know how
everybody would take it and take away from the team
(06:00):
just from him being my own dad showing up. So
you know, it's a gift that occurrese at the same time.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
All right, Carrie, Uh, I'm gonna say this, shador Sanders
sounds like a cop, you know how, because basically he's saying,
nothing to see here, keep it moving. There's nothing to
see here. You heard the cops before. They've shoot you
(06:30):
away or shooed you away from a situation or a circumstance.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Keep it moving. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
And he's absolutely right, there is nothing to see because
the Cleveland Browns have refused, for whatever reason, which I
think is obvious now, to give him first team reps.
Like Carrie, you you played in the National Football League
when they have decided that everybody else, how are you
(07:01):
in a football quarterback competition with four guys. The other
three guys have gotten first team reps and you've gotten
zero mini camp and now here we are in training camp.
So the Browns can say whatever they want, but they've
said what I think is obvious. He has a great
(07:23):
chance of being cut and not being on his team.
It doesn't make any sense. It's practice carry you know this.
What is the harm on getting the guy a few
reps with the first team?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
What is the harm? And he better be lighting it up.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
All these chadorf Sanders, flackies, flunkys, fans whatever you want
to call him.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Look at these numbers. You have the best numbers your camp,
or look how goody please?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
He better have the best numbers against the third and
four strings and guys who are gonna be working at
mobile gas station at other places. If you don't have
the numbers against him, what then didn't you have no shot?
So you should be at least shining against the people
still trying on the bubble, trying to make it carry.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
All I'm saying is Buffalo, I mean Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Cleveland can say there's a quarterback competition. I don't see
it involving Shador Sanders. I just don't see it because
it doesn't cost you anything to put the kid out there.
And I'm gonna give you two reasons why I still
don't believe he's gonna be on his team. I don't
care what you invested. I don't care if you traded
(08:39):
for Kenny Pickett. I don't care about Joe Flacco's championship.
I don't care about Dylan Gabriel was drafted in the
third round. I don't care about any of that. Because
when Russell Wilson showed up the Seattle after they played
Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Do you remember that a ton of money he showed
up with a.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Peak I'll do oh no, oh no, no, we'll just
have to eat the money. And that kid's playing. Okay,
stop number two. Tom Brady's your mentor. He don't believe
in you, Carrie, you're the Raiders. Don't tell me about
Geno Smith. Oh my god, well they already have Gino
(09:21):
Smith is fine for now, long term if Tom Brady,
who was a sixth round pick, not a fifth, a
sixth round pick, anybody's supposed to be like sympathetic and
understand what could happen with it's Tom Brady. You're working
out with the kid, you're his mentor, you've seen him,
(09:43):
you know his desire, you know what he's done. And
the Raiders have plenty of picks, and they decided to
pass on your door.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Not hate.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm just reading the tea leaves. That's all I'm gonna say. No,
I mean, you're right.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
The best player eventually is gonna get those reps and
be the starter. Right, That's how it works. That's how
it works. It doesn't matter where you are. I was
a fourth round pick and started from day one. I mean,
that's just how it is, and it was better than
those other guys who weren't fun of you exactly. So
it's like the competition part of it, I understand, and
what you just you made a great point of, Yes,
(10:18):
his numbers in the stats should be better than the starters.
They're playing against the first defense and he's playing against
the second or third or what fourth defense in that part.
So even like I'm gonna bring it back to me,
then I'm gonna go back to him. So like as
a as a fourth round pick go in, you go
into the first preseason game and you're playing against preseason guys.
You're not playing against the starters. I'm running around thinking,
this is this is easy. I'm meant to be here.
(10:40):
This is what I do. I run this show. And
then we get the week one against Kansas City against
the against the real real deal, right the big boy, like,
oh coach, so I am I still starting next week.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's how I roll.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
And so for Shador, for him, he just got to
keep his head down and work and keep doing what
he has to do. Like you said, I mean, it's
so many quarterbacks, obviously somebody's has to be the odd
person out.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
And you know, they're not taking four quarterbacks. Come on, no, no, no,
they're not going to take right, It doesn't make any sense.
You can't eat up a roster spot for a guy
who's not going.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
To see the field.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, I mean the only thing I could see that
could keep him there would be the practice squad, which
I'm sure he wouldn't want to be a part of.
So you know, if he's a practice squad guy, he's
not on the active roster, so they can still keep
him as that foot, but he.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Wouldn't be and you wouldn't be an NFL player right
until you play, until you play, am I right, Like
you're not in the league. There are guys who are
on practice, yes, until you play in a real NFL game, exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you can also see the disconnector, right,
Jimmy Haslam, the owner already said that that wasn't this guy.
So that was interesting, Yeah, because if the owner says that,
then you already know and we know this most of
the time, the owner of the GM and the quarterback
is all connected. Right, if you're going to invest in
the GM, you want that GM to invest in the
quarterback and that chain of command, that chain of operation
(11:57):
is one that should be a solid footing.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Jimmy had no problem telling you when he got Sean
Watson exactly that was his guy blew up in his face,
and that's my point.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, But but here he's like, oh no, I had
nothing to do with.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
This one hundred percent, So he's already removed himself from
the equation, right. And then the other part of it
is the comments that should door said. The only thing
he I there was two things I thought when he
first said it. At first, when he said it not
today or yesterday, whenever that sound was. I think he
was protecting his dad. So his dad was going through
things and the media didn't know about it. The world
(12:31):
didn't know about it, so I think he was covering
that up. But this second comment, he's right, like, I
have not done anything and my dad doesn't want to
be here.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But when you unveil.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
That, all he's saying is you guys already think I'm
a distraction. So if I bring my dad and he
comes in and he piles on top of that, the
media is gonna run with it. So I think that's
the other part, the other layer of that. It's not
about him not being getting reps. It's about the clown
show that comes along with it. And that's the reason
why it's pretty obvious if you're not going to make
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sur door your quarterback and that you don't want him around.
And it's not just him, because nobody wanted Tim Tebow
around where every conversation everything is about Tim t Is
he going to get the quarterback?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Those two?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Is TBO going to get in? Did you think about
putting t Bow in the second half?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And there's reporters around his locker every day, you know, like,
that's not what you want.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And that's what you just And that's one hundred percent correct.
If the quarterback that's the guy, he's going to get attention,
that's inherent, right. But if the fourth string guys are
getting the same questions that that first string guy would
have gotten, it's such a distraction in general, I.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Agree, and that's why I think people got too caught up.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
There were only three or four teams really looking for
a quarterback, so that was one thing. So when all
he got passed over by all these teams, no, they
weren't looking for quarterback, So it looks worse than it
really is. And the ones who were they didn't really
want if he wasn't going to be You saw the
Giants move up. You saw, uh who else moved up
to take a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Somebody else?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And then yeah, you know, like they moved up so
they had somebody who they really wanted and they went
after him.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And I'm with you. People can make all the excuses,
and they are.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're trying to they're trying to put him in his place, like, no,
this is the NFL where GM's and coaches are trying
to keep their gigs and trying to win games. And
I just want nobody can can dispute my Matt Flynn
take because it's real and they had something invested, they
had money and everything. And he had set the record
(14:42):
for touchdowns in the game by by a Packer's quarterback
and bart start, I mean, uh yeah, all those great
quarterbacks who played there, right, and he had the record,
and when he got to Seattle, they were like, oh
wait a minute, that kid right there.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's got something, he got something, And that's
how it is.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
That's how it is, No a way, eight seven seven
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(15:21):
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(16:50):
number Shador Sanders. We're gonna talk with Jay Crawford. Well,
I used to do co pizza with first Take with
j Uh in Cleveland. Yeah, I've done cold pizza a
couple of times, the host of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Uh, he's gonna give us some insight as well.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Nice. You know how these training camps go. If you're
shu door and you're not, they they just haven't put
you out there yet. What's going on in his head?
He knows better, am I right? Like as a football player, Yeah,
I mean he's got I'm not out there.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, he's gotten.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I mean obviously he has his dad, right, I'm sure
his dad has given him all the uh the information,
the tit bits that he needs. But I mean for
him personally, he can't worry about you know what, He's
not getting right. Now, he can only control what he
can control. And so the fact that he is playing
well with the third and fourth string or whatever it
is and putting up numbers. You got to remember, there's
(17:50):
a lot of other teams out there, right, and so
once you get into these training camps, you want to play,
You want to put your best foot forward, play well,
give your give yourself a chance to win the games.
Do start in training camp in preseason to go out
there and ball out, because again, you're not just only
playing for the Cleveland Browns, right, He's playing for all
the other teams out there. So if they get some
(18:11):
good footage on him out there, maybe he ends up
in a better situation.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Now here's my thing. Yeah, here's the issue I have.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yep, for the Chador fans, and I get it, you
pull him for a guy I'm not come on.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I get that. But here's my thing.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, so if he goes out and has a bad game,
people will say, well, what do you want? It's his
first game, Okay, but if he balls out, see out
of proportion?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Am I right?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Like it?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
To me? That's where I have the issue.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
When Cooper Flag had his first game, I ripped on
him for that terrible shooting, and people are.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Like, dude, it's only one game.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
What do you want?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I said, dude, if you would score forty, you would
have gone crazy the other way.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So which one is it? Then? You know, does it
matter or it doesn't matter? It does?
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It only matter if you play well, and it doesn't
matter if you play poorly. That's the part that I
have I struggle with because I think people are so
apt to want to trumpet somebody when it's good and
then pooh, pooh, a bad effort.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah we're hot, take USA anyway, right, So people are
trying to get in front of the story and have
their own particular spin on it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
So that's just how we are right now. But again, yeah,
I mean, this thing is, this is a journey. Doesn't
matter who you are, doesn't matter if you're Tom Brady,
doesn't matter if your should do a Sanders Like Tom
Brady didn't come out and start right away. It took
a catastrophic injury for him to even get on the field.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So and you don't even know how his life would
have changed had Drew bloodsoe that's say healthy, You don't
even you have no idea, no because he.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Wasn't even even at Michigan.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
You remember that it was Drew Henson and they were
like trying everybody. Tom Brady was in the mix, but
he wasn't like it.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Was never the God, never heard of God. I mean
even early on there, he wasn't the guy. It didn't
even didn't even look like the guy.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
And even said he always had a dad, Bob before
he had kids. He and you're very true.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I mean, I know the picture that circulates all over
his rookie picture.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
It was terrible. But we all have those moments, some
of us still have them.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
No, but it's it's a beautiful thing though, man, I
mean when you get to go through the through the
journey and through the wars shador. I mean, you know,
if he was to hear this, just for him, keep grinding, man,
this isn't this isn't the one stop shop.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Keep bawling and prove everybody wrong, but prove people right
as well, no doubt. All right, let's get you caught up.
We got mister Steve de Sega.
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Speaker 3 (20:44):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It is the Odd Couple on a Magic City Monday,
Rob Parker and Kerry Rhoades filling in for Kelvin Washington,
and uh, we were just talking about the football cam.
We're hoping they will talk with Jay Crawford who's in Cleveland.
As we both know Jay and work with him over
(21:06):
the years, back in the old days at esp old days,
that's right when that cole Pizza was in the day.
They were good, the salad days we had plenty. But
football camp it's I know, it's not the same as
it used to. People used to work themselves into shape.
I remember when you stayed there, slept in dormitories. Yes,
(21:28):
am I right, Like it was a totally different, totally
different kind of thing. And I just always wonder, like
I understand, you know, things things get better and improvements
and all that other stuff, but all the working out,
all the other stuff off season and personal trainers and
all that other stuff that come. I think it's changed
(21:50):
as far as people being heard or over working out over.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You know, is it too much? Rob?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Some things don't need to change, But that's training camp
is exactly what you said. Both to get into shape right,
you need the attrition that happened throughout camp right mentally physically,
like your body has to adjust to the long haul
which the season is. And so we talk about trying
to you know, player safety and all these things. The
(22:20):
head thing I understand one hundred percent. I'm very on
board with protecting the heads. But other than that, like
you need to be in full pads, you need to tackle,
you need to a day, you need to play football,
you need you have to play football. There's no way
around playing tackle football and avoiding injury. So if you
don't give your body the chance to kind of acclimate
(22:41):
to that, you see that the injuries are even more
catastrophic now than they were back in the day.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
And that's what I'm crazy. I don't know where the
science doesn't make sense to me. You like smart people
being too smart for themselves exactly. They think like I
see people. There used to be a time where football
season came, all right, the season's over, put on ten
pounds eight cheesecake.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
It didn't you know what I mean, You didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No, these guys are on video doing the training, but
the season just ended. And they got the trainers and
their nutrition. They won't go on vacation. No, they won't
do anything. And I'm just like, does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
All right?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Alice in Pittsburgh, you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
What's up? Alice?
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Hey, Hi guys, how are.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
You are good? How are you good? How are you?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
It's football season again?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
So I'm happy, Oh, I know you are.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
I'm going to training camp on Wednesday. You're talking about
training Camp's not the same that they used to stand dorms.
The Steelers still stay in the dorms at college there.
You go, Okay, So they stay there in the dorm
the whole time. They show them moving in all their
like TV's and all their stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I think a lot of teams have moved away from them.
I'm surprised to know the Steelers still do that.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Yeah, the Steelers still do that. Open to the public
certain days of the week. So I'm going when I
have tickets for Wednesday and we just go there and
watch some practice for the day.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
In the tickets, do they charge you, Alice?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Or it is just tickets so that they know how
many just so they know how many people are coming in, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I was gonna say, come on.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
You just have to register a ticketmaster. But yeah, we
still do that. I don't know how many teams do that.
I don't think many do it anymore. But most of
the guys stand there the whole time too.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Alice, I'll give you.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I give you a lot of football fans who go
to practice and training.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Can I give you credit?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm I'm dead here because because Alice, I'm gonna tell
nobody was a bigger football fan. When I was in
high school. Okay, I used to work at a shoe
store at the mall. I wouldn't work on Sundays during football.
So you know, when you work at a mall, you
got to walk on the weekends. I was like, no, no,
no September through December. No Sundays, I'm watching football. My
(24:53):
mom used to Alice, let me leave church. I went
to a Baptist church. Baptist church is three hours.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I know.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You know that, Alice all day and I'm like, ma,
I got to see the kickoff?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Can you let me duck out? And you will let me?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Really, I want to know, Alice, So are you going
to camp? Who are you excited to see? I mean,
I know you got a lot of a lot of
ad dishes.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
I'm excited to see DK. I'm excited to see our
new running back, Cale Johnson. I really like him too.
Else do I like Jaylen Samuel. I'm excited to see
Aaron even because you know what, I hear that everybody
loves him and he loves Pittsburgh, which is I shouldn't
expect it at all. I thought he would come here
like cranky and no, because.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
You know what he was in Green Bay and and
and carry will tell you this, Aaron rubbed a lot
of people the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
But the people have played with him. Have you talked
to his teammates.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
No, I've never heard anybody say like they like he
can't play or doesn't isn't a team god?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, he is a good He's a good dude.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Tom He loves Tomlin and Tomlin loves him.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh no, they got a man crush other guy. I
know all of them very very well. They're all good dudes.
Am all right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right?
Speaker 8 (26:04):
How have you guys been?
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Everything is good, Alice. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
We always thanks for calling in, Thanks for all the support,
Thanks to sate you and and uh the uh, I
was gonna say, oh, the thing that I thought was
really classy, rob g I don't know if you saw
this as well. So you know, Terry Bradshaw went off
on Aaron and he was so classy in his response.
(26:30):
He could have shredded you know what I mean. He
shredded him, yes, okay, and he just refused. He's a
legend if you ever take some time to get to
know me or whatever. I thought that was the right
way to do it. There was no reason to go
back at a seventy eight year old man and you
know what I mean and put his stats and ask
him how much he did this and that, and you know,
(26:52):
could have could have painted his career totally different. Aaron
is a good guy. I know him very well.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
We came and we were it's crazy to think of
this though, but we came in the same year, okay,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Still so that. But like you talk about the good guy.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
After the season, I had a had a charity event
in Louisville, Oh, for the Kentucky Derby. You had like
I did, like a football camp. A lot of players came,
but some people on vacation and.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
You couldn't go right he came, Aaron came, spoke throwing
the ball with the kids for that, just like that's
who he is, I know, and I get it, like
people get caught up because of some of the darkest
thing and all the other stuff, and I and I
get it, and they and they they want to paint
him as that.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
You know, the whole thing about it if you didn't
know that stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
But what would your what would your opinion be would
be totally different, right, That's what and that's what that's
the thing I hate they painted however they want to
paint it.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I told people all the time, it wasn't that
long ago when he had a real shot at being
the Jeopardy host.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
You remember that when he was like, like you have
to be likable.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
You know, they can't put you on a game show
that's going to be on and half the people. This
not like sports talk radio. You don't know what everybody
will like you. So it's very interesting. I just thought
that sound was good.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like like I was.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I thought he took the high road and was like,
Terry up, if you want to meet me and get
to know me or whatever, I'm open to it.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
You're a legend. You paved the way.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
It was really really well done and diffused everything. I
don't know what is it If you're Terry Bradshaw, what
do you say? Like you come to practice and pat
him on the back and say, what's up. I'm Terry
Bradshaw and I introduced yourself that way and have a
real conversation.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's how it should be.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
All this stuff that happens in the media and goes,
you know, from play, especially from the player perspective, like
you're sending messages or but that that's weird.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
That's my biggest issue is as much as the media.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And I'm talking about trained journalists and professionals, not because
you have a blog, not because you have a podcast,
not the course. I'm talking about people went to school
and have some skin in the game. If you're you're
just sending stuff from a blog, making up stuff and
throwing it out up against the wall, I'm not talking
about those people, talking about people work for reputable companies
(29:07):
that if you make a mistake, someone's gonna get sued, okay,
and you're gonna get fired. Like those are the places
I'm talking about. And the player on player hate is
just through the roof and it's disrespectful. And that's why
I think a lot of guys aren't really built for
this business because they have skin in the game and
(29:30):
they can't be real. You know, if you're Cam Newton,
you can't say Jalen Hurts. It's not that Jalen Hurts
can't be in your top ten. That's not if you
make the case and you want to put other people.
But his reasoning about the great team he has around him,
(29:51):
just that can't be because everybody's wont the Super Bowl.
Guess what, they had a great team around them, So
that argument doesn't work. And number two coming off that
Super Bowl carry This is where I had an issue.
It was a Saquon Barkley show, right, oh right, oh yeah,
all they gotta do. I know that the per formula
to beat the Eagles stack the box and make uh
(30:16):
Jalen Hurst ow the football. Guess what, Saquon has forty
yards and they win the Super Bowl easily. Yes, And
he threw the ball and made the throws he called
out and the Super Bowl they lost to the Chief.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He played my home.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So when I like to have Cam say that stuff
doesn't make any sense to me other than jealousy. And
I don't know mad that he didn't win a Super Bowl,
Mad that you know people still remember him not falling
on the loose.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Ball or whatever it is. And and and I think
that's bad.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And I'll say this, I don't even think it's jealousy, Robert.
I think it's because we all play in different times.
We're all asked to do different things. Right, So when
Cam looks at Jalen, their games are similar. So he
would just, in his own like ego way, like ego
maniac way, put himself in Jalen Hurt's position and say
(31:08):
what he would have done. But it just doesn't work
that way. I can talk about safeties now and be
like I could do that. It doesn't matter though our
time has passed.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You can.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
You can give people your flowers without like selling yourself
short in the same breath. And I think that's what
other good players that talk about other players. I think
that's part of the problem. And here's the other thing,
too real quick. I only hear it in the NBA.
I heard a lot in the NBA. And now you're
hearing football.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Where you need to bash other people came before you
to make you look like That's what I'm like, Like
like and I you know, I'm being a baseball guy.
Never ever ever heard anybody say babe roots would be
a bum today?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Like, like why would you have to tear down babe rude?
Or you talk to player, they'll tell you right away
Barry Bond's the best player I ever saw. You know
what I mean, like like without even hesitation. Yeah, and
yet I hear in the NBA, or they gotta trash
this guy.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You're gonna track in the NFL. That trashing this guy?
That guy. I just don't understand that. I think something's
wrong now, Yeah, I think it's It has to be
what you just said.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
It has to be a valid reason for for your argument, right,
like not just based off what that person's doing now
and what you've done or what you could have done.
Like it's not that doesn't matter. If the reason is
a valid reason why you don't want to be in
the top ten, matter perfectly fun. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not I'm not saying he oh no, he's ridiculous.
You can't mean the top No. The only one I'll
(32:41):
say to that was when Shack didn't have cream. Abdude
with the bar in the top ten. I can't get
with that.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
All right, It is the Odd Couple eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox and baseball fans are mad at
the wrong guy, and we'll.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Explain that coming up next.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
That's right, and a little Shekel City right here on
sports radio, stick and stay America.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
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Speaker 4 (33:16):
Patty Kay, it is the Odd Couple, Rob Parker Carrie
Rhoads in for kelvin Washington.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Rob, this sounds like it's going to be uh playing
Monday at Magic City.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Is that right? It sounds like that type of rus
Patty Cake Wiga wig.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
All right, and now it is uh wait, we should
it's time for Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Welcome. All right, let's do a little Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
The other night, I was uh two in one that
takes me to one eighty two and one eighty nine.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I know it ain't good. I was about to say, man,
that is I need to get back. I need to
get back. I need a hot streak going.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Here announced this next week. Then all right, here we go.
I'm gonna take the Yankees minus one and a half.
That's my best bet. They swept in Miami. Bad weekend
for the Bronx Bombers. They're in Texas taking on the Rangers.
Yankees minus one and a half is my best bet.
I got the Cubs at home hosting the Reds. Take
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the Cubs minus one and a half runs, and I
got the Blue Jays minus one and a half. They're
in Denver taking on the Colorado Rockies. So again, Yankees
minus one and a half is the best bet. At
the Texas Rangers. I'm taking the Cubs minus one and
a half hosting the Reds, and I'm taking the Blue
(35:00):
Jays minus one and a half. They're on the road
in Denver against the Colorado Rockies. And remember this carry
what's that. I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. All right, you
know what's time for It's time for the tire rack.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Play of the day.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
Swung on hit high in the ear center field, it's
deep at the track, It's gone Kyle Shorter with a
towering solo home run just to the left of the
batter's eye doubles the lead in the eighth with his
thirty eighth home run of the season.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's two nothing.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
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Speaker 3 (35:42):
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And I know all the fans down and Rob G
(36:08):
and Bristol, Tennessee were mad. Carry eighty five thousand people
bought tickets, the largest crowd for a baseball game, and
everything got messed up because of the rain. And the
game was supposed to be played Saturday.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
They play the Sunday.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
But people are mad at Rob Manford. They want his
buns because they ran out of hot dog buns. How
was he to blame? The commissioner doesn't buy the buns.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
They didn't know they were gonna And you know what
probably happened.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
What happened the rain delay on Saturday, right, Rob g
people while.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Was indefinite at one point, right, So people were eating,
you know, like getting cover, so that they decided, okay.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
We'll eat while we're waiting for this rain to stop,
and they ate all the buns. They had more hot
dogs than buns, so they were selling hot dogs without buns.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
And they ran out of nacho cheese for the nachos,
and they had the nachos without the cheese. Yeah, yeah, buns,
you can keep that. I don't want any glizzies. So
you guys are good. But that's like, that's like that's
like airplane.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
You remember when in the movie where the.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Meteors are hitting upside the.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Spaceship or whatever art and they're like, are you being
honest with you telling us everything that's going on here?
And then they go, all right, one more thing, we're
out of coffee, and they go preserve. Not that they're
gonna crash all right, right, right, but to blame Rob
Manford for the hot dog buns and the nacho cheese stopping,
I'm blaming them.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
If you're gonna take them to that big old speedway
place where ninety ninety five thousand people have enough buns man.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You can run out of buns bunce it happens.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Hey, you can't run out of buns. Not in Magic City, though.
That's what I have to here. You go, all right,
odd couple, You know what you need to do.
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