August 18, 2025 • 37 mins
Kelvin Washington and Kerry Rhodes, in for Rob Parker, react to Caleb Williams' impressive preseason debut and explain why people have been too quick to criticize the former first overall pick. Kerry breaks down why he believes Williams is on track for a breakout campaign this season. Plus, is the Dodgers-Padres rivalry the best that all of sports has to offer right now?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's right, it is The Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Kelvin Washington, Kerry Rhodes in for Rob for a man
who says, I never take days off, Alex, he's taking
seven months off, not two.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Four minutes. I thought it was pregnant, not full man,
not five. I don't realize.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It was just all that turkey and as belly and
bait checking the rounds. That's why we got a lot
going on on this Magic City Monday. We're gonna have
a great show lined up for you. We got, of course,
a bunch of football talk to get to. We got
Timothy Parker coming up in the next hour. He is
a reporter of a Spectrum Networks was covering the RAM
training gamp. He was at the Dodgers padre one of
(01:03):
the game in this series. So we'll talk to Timothy
Parker about what's happening in the LA Sports area. Looking
forward to that Tyler Dragon the following hour. It will
be of course in a for a reporter for USA Today,
bunch of NFL topics to get with him, but also
for you and I to discuss throughout the day. Let
me welcome in my partner for the day or next
(01:24):
couple of days. That is Carrie Rose was sub brother.
I was the weekend man. The weekend was good man.
Right now I'm in film mode, so filming a movie
right now, but like long hours, yeah, obviously, but good
times on set, good vibes, and I'm happy to be
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You know how that goes. You know, when we get
in the building, it's all First of all, we gotta
settle down. Coming in here in the same type of
eye we walked in all black, all black on black
with our shades. We look like the Blues brothers. I
don't know, the black brother something. It's got to be
another version of Yeah, Ryan wanted to be down. I
told him you could. There's like one level of black
that I was like, Ryan, they you can get us
(01:59):
with the clothes. There's one more level. Yeah, he's missing Shad.
We could be creole. He could be creole, little creole
in this family. Yeah, let's welcome in the eye couple crew.
We couldn't do this amazing show without them. We got
Ryan and for robb G. Now wait wait, wait wait
stop the music, Alex, I know wasn't even no music going.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Is Rob g solely out because it's his birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I believe? So?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, you got to be more. Steve Seger is on
the job. Find me something to updated some trending. This
better not be It is Rob G out strictly because
his birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Are you a team? It is my birthday? I'm taking
off workday.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
No, I was here on my birthday. So no, So
I'm not on board with robb G because my tripping.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, because number one, we're not a woman. Number two
we're not in high school. Yeah we don't. We don't
even need number two. Let's just start with numbers. What
the heck? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Is it only a day or is it like a
birthday month type week type thing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Like we did a whole segment on that. Okay, we
did do it about things men shouldn't be doing. One
of them. You can't take it. This is it, this
is it. You gotta show up. But you know you
can listen.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You can take a weekend like we're gonna go down
to blah blah for my birthday. Okay, cool, I'm with that.
But the idea I'm not coming into work. Maybe it's
an extension. Maybe he was off on the weekend. I'm
gonna find this out. Steve Saeger's gonna get on top
of that.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He just looked at me like, that's not what I'm
doing today. He's like, he's like, we're gonna get to
the bottom of this. Speaking of Steve, of course, Steve
the Sager is here as well. He's gonna get you updated.
What's training and Alex on the boards on the ones
and two? All right, color, you know, would you say
sons out, buns out? One of us has to bring
the color to the show. Yeah, well, I can't say
the stand up.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Let me see. Okay, it's a red shirt from the
New York City Marathon. Look at that. I thought you
were talking about the runners on the shirt.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'm gonna look mellenated the Brown Brothers for they're meland
for sure. Was this the but a matter of fact,
you're here. Usually your son's out, buns out.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Sent four days and I'm gone, okay, figured two week's gone.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
One day. We're gonna have the entire crew at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Not gonna happen. Maybe like the literal start of the
football week. We'll all be here at the same time.
All right, we got some again, some football to get
to him. Excited to do that. Ryan is gonna get
a set on what has been happening with young Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Caleb Williams had a very strong performance in his preseason
debut on Sunday, went six of ten passing for one
hundred and seven yards in a touchdown. PFF had his
great at eighty eight point nine. Ben Johnson had a
couple of really nice things to say for him after
the game. This is what Ben Johnson had to say.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Caleb made a couple big time throws in my opinion,
to keep that drive going, and some explosive plays there,
and so it was good.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was good to see.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I thought, really the three days of practice we had
this week and this game were the most he stacked
up good days in a row right now, and so
the challenges can be to keep pushing in that direction.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
All right, So here's my thing. We talked about this, Carrie.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I feel like I've even had some Caleb conversations with
you over the last couple of weeks. Sure, yeah, yeah,
So here's my thing. When you go to a really
really good school, right, and let's say at high school,
really top notch high school. I went to a top
five public school when I was back in my day,
and it was with all I knew, right, It's all
I knew, is all that was where I'm from. I'm
from an arbor and just grew up. Okay, what's the
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big deal? Was not a great student? Shut up? Was
an average student there as far as the work side
of it. But the actual the brightness, the intelligence you
have it. I say this to say, while I was
there and you know, having fun, hanging out already doing
all that and just you know, burd you know, making
it by what I learned as I started to move
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to other cities, was that time five education that I
was receiving and just me being you know, average whatever
put me well above so many other people. Once I
started being around kids who went to some of the
you know, rougher schools and other areas outside of Flynn,
outside of Detroit, and he was like, oh wow, me
just being around that type of education rubbed off. I
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say that to say, Caleb Williams is benefiting from being
around Ben Johnson. Being around Ben Johnson, who is going
to expose the things that we knew his weaknesses were,
but challenge him to get better. Has an offense that
is the reliance upon him being better in order for
this thing to work. And you have a guy for
his entire tenure with the Detroit Lions was a top
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five offense number one last year. So he knows what
he's doing. And so I think we're gonna get the
best version of Caleb Williams. It's going to take time,
because again, Caleb has been able to benefit from being
just gifted, being better, being faster, more athletic, and all
of that throughout middle school, high school, into college where
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he was running around you getting it done and winning
Heisman's and you know, having success in that regard individually,
not necessarily team. And I think all of this is
him benefiting from the curriculum of Ben Johnson, from the
curriculum of holding you to a standard, to a curriculum
of get off the team, first teamers, get off the field.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We just won't be acceptable. I'm burning timeouts.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You guys are taking forever to get out the huddle, right,
And I think the expectations are going to be high
for him with specifically Ben Johnson, but he's going to
be able to extract the best of him and like
I said, he's going to learn so much from that
university of Ben Johnson that he'll go to another school,
you know, and realize, like wow, me being here has
benefited and elevated my game so much. But I still
(07:20):
think it's going to take time. I still have still
my concerns. Yeah, I mean the first thing you said
is the most I guess positive thing for Caleb Williams.
Ben Johnson is an a type like a type, a type
of person, right, so the attention to details matter. You
talked about it. Caleb has been gifted. He's been one
of the best players I'm sure since he started playing
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right and so it's come easy to him. When you
get to the NFL. It may seem easy in preseason,
it may seem easy in practice sometimes because you know
it just happens that way sometimes. But when those live
bullets started flying, and you see other people out there
trying to eat and make money for their families.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's a different.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And so for Caleb Williams, and I think for all
the detractors or even people on his side, calm down.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
This is year two for this quarterback. And even with.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The supposedly down year that he had last year, if
you look at his numbers for a rookie, you'll think
it's pretty impressive. And so obviously when you come with
the generational talent titles and you know, people saying that
you're the best prospect since whatever, like, those expectations are
going to be high and unrealistic anyway. I mean, you
look at Peyton Manning when he came in, right, he
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had all the tuols, he had the pedigree. Year one
he was trash. Cayleb Williams year one was better than
Peyton Manning. So calm down. What you're saying, He's gonna
have a better career than Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I know, yes.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Parker did not say that, Rob, But what I'm saying
is the fact that people want to the other thing
about all of this, which really makes me upset, to
be honest, is the coverage.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I think we have too much coverage.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I know we're in the busines up coverage, but I
think there are some people, there are some people that
should not be covering, Like we don't need to know
that his teammates didn't step up for him when he
got bumped, and like some of that information needs to
be handled within. And so the fact that we're getting
so much information and we're you know, we're really like
lining this thing up day by day. He had a
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good day day one, day two. He's in training camp.
You're supposed to struggle. The coach is gonna put you
in situations where you have to figure it out. And
if he hasn't figured it out yet, it's gonna be
a problem.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
First of all, let me let me tell you what's
driving me crazy right now. You just brought that up
social media. Let me let me kill I want to
slap everybody. Here's but specific. Why remember the good old
days when Sports Center would post something on a on
a page or put something out there. It would actually
be something about basketball, football, baseball, a sport we all enjoy.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yes, remember it'd be an incredible highlight.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now though, just posts a random kid shooting his u
his box of cereal and a cart in a Walmart
top ten? What what is going on? That's what I'm
telling you, Yo. The standards, Yo, Yo, the standards. We
gotta relax. I understand the need to push content, especially
if you're a content creator like a regular person, but
(10:17):
the standard bear has got to come on. Now, let's
get back to bearing them standards. Because I go on
my social media and I see the most random. It'll
be a five year old in the backyard who put
a spin move on his friend, you know, and playing
backyard sandline football, and that'll make all that.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I'm like, all right, why are we showing that? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I said that to say to your point, we do
cover everything. We'll cover every throw. You used to just
know only in the preseason game.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Maybe if something huge or bad happened came out. Now
we know every throw, every nick, every I gotta scratch.
I got a boo boo. Man, what teammate yelled at them?
And the things that are becoming things were so regular.
You played in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
That's it. Not too far removed.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Us bumping chest and us with that was we all
been seeing hard knocks for twenty some years that's so regular.
But now it's like, oh my gosh, yo, this is
happening in training cap he grabbed some water and sprayed
it and they got okay.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But it's been happening guys.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Kelvin, he struggled in team blitz pick up against the
entral squad that they was going at. I don't remember
who it was, but somebody reported that. I'm like, you
saw him in one period and said, this guy isn't
going to have a good year this year.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Relax.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now, he did look bad in basketball shorts and T shirts.
I did need more out of him. I did need
more out of him than five seventeen Carrie, Carrie carry.
You see what happened in game one, well, the game
two of preseason when he got his snaps what he did?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He looked good, right, he looked good.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Listen, I hope he looks to an extent as a
Detroit hold on. You can look good, but don't look good.
I need him to be like you know, I needed
to be somebody else. He can't be halle Berry looking
good like that. Helld on, don't look like that. Okay,
you can be cool, don't look that good. My point is,
you know the preseason is going to be too much
(12:03):
to try to go back and forth with right like
we're gonna because now he looks mid the next game,
ile you and I got to come on here and
do that. That's why I, for me, was the larger
point of Ben Johnson is going to whatever's in there,
I'm gonna be able to extract it the best out
of you. And you know this from a business or
entrepreneurial standpoint, one of the things you're supposed to do
(12:23):
is hire to your weaknesses. You want somebody that, hey,
I'm not good at organization, will find someone who's organization
league spectacular. Hey I'm not good at math, or I'm
not good at my finances, go get a financial advisor,
somebody who can do all of that. I say that
to say this is why if you're a Bears fan,
you'd be hopeful that Ben Johnson, that's what he does.
(12:45):
If you looked at Jared Goff and the offense, it
was very precision oriented, right because you know Jared Goff
ain't rolling around and running every although every now and
again he did catch a pass, he caught a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Pass, but they were so unexpected. That's why he was open.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That falls the same category as that little kid shooting
the ball the siria in the buttle.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Okay, yeah that does. He was wide open.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It was like when Peyton Manning used to play fake,
fake the handoff and then keep running.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Everybody like what man, he is not running?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He actually running. Yeah, that's a touchdown. We're gonna have
to just give up because we did not see that coming.
But I said that to say, I just think Ben
Johnson's gonna be if it's there, if he can be
good with timing, if he can be on point on time,
if he can be his processing can be sped up.
This is the guy that will help him do it,
and that their marriage needs to be one that can
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go stand the test of time because they can get
the best out of each other. Hey, these are the
things you're great at, Ben Johnson. By the way, you
might be getting a guy who can do the other
things too, Meaning I can actually run out of the
pipe when when the play we have designed doesn't work.
I can scramble that pass was supposed to I know,
but I got the arm, strength and talent to get
it to the other guy. The second or third, look,
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if it need be, so if they can marriage and
make that happen, and I'm expect it to be fireworks
necessarily yearor two right off the bat. Yeah, but if
they can get that thing Roland, that will be scary
for that division for sure and in the league as
they continue to move forward. But again, I think there's
gonna be he's gonna it's gonna take time because again,
for his whole life, I've just simply been better than you.
(14:16):
I've just simply made a way when there's been no way,
and you subconsciously become relying on that. And that is
the difficulty with people who are extremely talented. It is
to rely right you get to the NBA. I've always
been faster, jump, higher, stronger, And then, like you said,
yeah do so have all of us, and some of
us are working alive. Kobe Bryant every year, I'm in
(14:37):
I'm in my lab Lebron every year. I'm Michael Jordan,
I'm coming back. I'm getting better, I'm better. I'm Steph Curry.
I'm working on my left hand even more. I'm working
on this shot. And dudes, just or I can hoop, No,
we all can hoop.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
We all can do it. Kelvin the thing for Caleb,
and I'm gonna make it simple.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
If he's coachable this year, he's gonna do his job,
and he's gonna do it well because the tools are their.
You watch him all the things you said, he's elusive.
He can make plays happen off of off of the
first read. Right, if he's accurate and on time with
the first read and he's and he's coachable, this year,
this team's gonna be. This team's gonna be right in
the thick of that division. And I'm sorry, I'm here.
(15:15):
I'm sorry for you Lions. If we already got to
deal with the Packers and everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But if he's coachable and he really takes in what
Ben Johnson's selling, they're gonna be they're gonna be dangerous.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Know you just made me not even I hope he's not.
I hope, I hope.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I hope Ben Johnson turns into Ben Johnson the track star.
There you be out here cheating. Steven't wanted to smile
out of you on that one, Steve, No, Steve ain't
paying attention. He was right all right, eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. Uh, let's let's get We'll take
a couple of calls on that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
If you are.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like carrying on and still saying, pump the breaks a
little bit on just a preseason few drives. Yes, pump
the breaks. But where are you with Kayley Williams. Do
you believe this will be a breakout year? Do you
believe he is maybe had some of his issues will
never change. Maybe you're not, Maybe you feel he was
all these last three years or so eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Foxes. Take a few calls on this one.
(16:05):
It is the Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington. We got Kerrie
Roose in for Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
He love no, no, no, no, he absolutely loves Lorilla.
By the way, shot out to Saga, who is in
the building. Honest, time he's been in here. I thought
he was doing our socials and the online content today,
but it's actually Elijah.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I beat you to it. I beat you.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's because you're listening that you are vibing. How dare
I interrupt your Glorilla? It is the odd couple Covid
Washington with my man carry Roads in for Rob on
a Magic City Monday. How dare you make me like
Lorilla the way I do? Alex, I blame you man.
Alex loves it, he loves her. You're putting a lot
on like as if you don't.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I don't listen. I don't. I'm not Glorilla got some
like the hard.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's a lot of it's a lot of how do
I say this, It's a lot of the ladies right now.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It has a certain sound to it. Hers is hard.
If it's seven pm Friday, I'm shut off my moose snunckle.
Just know that whoa, Hey, can you where's the dump button? Hey?
I hit hit. We're not dumping. We're not he said,
we're not dumping.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You are a ridiculous that's very suns.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Out, buns out as far as we could go. Now
sun's out. Another thing.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm off for two weeks. You're lucky if I'm wearing close. Yeah,
that's Ryan's look you sit next to him. All right,
we're talking about Caleb Williams. By the way, we're excited
to announce a brand new YouTube channel. That's right, Kerrie,
we have our own YouTube channel now now just the
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
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and YouTube channel and subscribe. All right, we were not talking
about Caleb Williams. I'm still leaning towards optimism for him. Yes,
(18:43):
I still believe he can be closer to what we
saw in college. As far as being dynamic, I don't
think he's I don't think he is the shoe in
as everybody you was saying for the prior to the
last couple of years. I think the NFL is going
to make him work and prove it. But I think
having been Johnson is going to help. But I think
he again, he was in for the awakening that the
(19:03):
NFL is for a lot of people. A lot of times.
We'll take a few calls. Let's go to Drew in
New Jersey. Drew, you're on with the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
By the way, if you want to get into I.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Think it's just like you said, it's a preseason game.
We've seen a lot of guys look good in preseason.
I'm usually let's see where he's at in at that
ten game mark. That ten game mark is where you
start seeing players really are. You saw that with bow Knicks,
you saw that with Jane Daniels. I think bow Knicks
was a trolleysist his first four games and then he
(19:37):
went on a tear and the one thing I'll also say,
is I feel like a lot of media is very
quick to like, let's write something narrative wise and let's
put it in existence, right. I think we did the
same thing with bow Knicks last year, where we didn't
(19:57):
I would say most people did not know much about Bone.
They didn't know one he could run because that was
all he did at Alburn. He's terrible at Aliburn, yep.
But again we didn't know the athletic profile, just like
he didn't know Jaydon Daniels.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
No good point, Drew, your good point.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
I'll just say, like, let's just wait and see that
ten game mark, see where he's at.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Drew, how, first of all, get off my phone, Drew,
because Drew out here want to be nuanced, to make sense,
to be patient. How dare you in twenty twenty five, Drew,
You're not allowed to be patient and nuance in the
twenty twenty Let me throw this out to you right now, Kelvin.
This this is the other thing, right. So we talk
about perspectives. We talk about people having their opinions about
certain players and the greatness of that season, greatness of
(20:42):
that player or the opposite, right, the worst or the
absolute worst about a player, Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna
say two numbers. I'm going to say, okay, two different players, right, Okay,
thirty seven hundred yards, twenty nine touchdowns, twelve interceptions, ninety
three point three rating good. The other one thirty five
hundred yards, twenty touchdowns, six interceptions in the eighty seven
(21:05):
point eight rating right, and one was one of those
was thought on being a really successful rookie season, and
the other one wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So who who's the all the person I'm talking about
right now?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's The Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington, my man Carrie Rose
in for Rob on this Magic City Monday. Might as
well call it Glorilla Monday. Oh my god, the way
Alex acts around these parts.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
There it is? Okay, there it is. I like that.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Just Keith as a drop right there, Alex, all right,
give me these numbers again. I want to guess the quarterback.
I feel like I'm on a game show. All right,
what did I hear it is. Why did his laugh
stund just like that laugh you always played.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
There? It is?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It is?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
How the second you like that carrier?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Or maybe maybe the drop is carry? All right? Maybe,
but no, listen the numbers, all right, give me I'm again.
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
The first quarterback right, okay, thirty seven hundred twenty nine touchdowns,
twelve interceptions, ninety three point three.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Rating, right, really good? Okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
The other one thirty five hundred forty one yards, twenty touchdowns,
six interceptions, eighty seven point eight rating, twenty one and six,
twenty and six.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Twenty and six. Okay, okay, what's the question? Who's who? Yeah?
Which one is which? All right? One?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
They said one was a really great year team over
to you. So I think I know the answers to these.
The first was bow who bow Rix. I remember those
commercials bow Rix to Harrickins, bo whoa bo rix box.
That's what I'm calling them all next season. Just get
ready for that this upcoming season. I like that bo
(22:52):
oh bowl Rix aka bo Nicks.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And then young Williams, Yes, so you're saying, I will
let you break down what you're saying that one was
considered really good first campaign and the other one was
mid yep.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Is that what you're saying? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
See, I think kayleb Williams is the perfect example of
we can look at a US confirmation bias.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Kaylu Williams season was exactly what you wanted it to be.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Thank you. That's what I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He put up the numbers that and had the outs
meaning the scapegoats, exactly what you needed. So if you
want to say, man, look look at these numbers, he
did this and this and this forty one and he
was good man, he was on his way. He was
in a tough division. I can sell you on that.
I can sell you that his coach lost in three
to four games on his own.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I can tell you that defensive.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Backs running out in the crowd acting like the game
over when it's a hell Mary to still be done
cost him a game. So I can sell you on
Kayla Williams and the chaos. I lost the coach a third,
you know, maybe the quarter of the season left. Within
the season, I can tell you that he's really good
confirmation by that's what I saw. I saw not I
could sell you the other way yep, couldn't get out
of the huddle. He was he wasn't processing. He was
(24:07):
sacked forty times. His own offensive lineman had some things
to say. I could show you on that that he's
playing too much Hero Superman ball. Kayleb Williams is the
perfect example for confirmation bias to be exactly whatever you
wanted to be when you're doing sports radio across this
country or sports talk television.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And that's my point.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's why I say, and you said it as well,
just chill, let this thing play out. He's in a
new system. You cannot report on everything he's doing in
training camp right now. He's learning a new system on
the fly, the cadence, getting them out in and out
of the huddle, on time processing, learning where the blitzers
are coming from, in a new system.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And so if we're comparing and we're looking at what
this guy can do and what his capabilities are, we
saw some of that both ways in his rookie year,
which for all of these rookies, even Jayden Daniels, there
were down moments for him as well. Even though it
looked seamless for him, there were down moments for him.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
As well.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
There was a learning curve, and so that's the problem.
It wasn't down long. Listen when we bring his numbers
up till he was Donnie McClerkin. No, he fall down,
but up he got up. Of course he was in
a better situation though. Yeah, listen, I don't disagree with that.
And again I think also his his division wasn't great.
So but I do think you know who enjoys what
(25:25):
Andrew the caller had. I mean Drew the caller was
talking about in that Sometimes it's great to be the
guy who gets to you get to Russell Wilson, this
thing meaning third round pick. Not that wasn't both Nick's.
But I'm saying I don't come in with all the
hype in the fan fair. I get to kind of
just look around the shoulder. Ain't nobody really looking too much?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Really? Excuse me? The pressure? Whoa whoa, Hey, hold up,
hold up, Alex?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know that for your boy sounded like I just had.
I was in a Willie Wonk and a Chuck infected house.
I thought I secured it over here, kind of turned
like and secure rook a salt and came back up
a bad Let me.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Find out this coffee. God, oh my god, oh now
you want to work that fast? Alex Yo.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I was like, no, you were like I was like,
I had out about experience.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I thought it was another person. I thought Kevin Williams,
not Joe Run Like. Yo, you ever done radio before?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
That is it's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Man, Hey, I hate hatelayers.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Mess up? Do I need to call it?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Uh? We got like some un I.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Feel like I feel like I'm like that Willie Wonkin
one time. In order to get to the ceiling to float,
you had to burn. I'm floating right now. The heck
was that?
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Man?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Make a good point to define the whole time till
he get a gold ticket. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Man, First of all, there's a lot to be scripted.
Why were all the grandparents in the bed together? Both sides?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I've been I've been needing to know this for however long,
however old I am. That's all I needed to know.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
We're just okay with all the parents in the bed
together for twenty five years. It was hard times. Back then,
it was a hard time. Don't they get a song?
Cut the bed in half? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Watching her daughter work the entire time slaving all this stuff,
and it's like, oh, go take it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Every couple in the nineteen sixties and below was we're
in separate beds, right the HUDs because they didn't want
to put a man and a woman in.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Bed on TV back.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But somehow Willie Wonka had multiple grandparents or Charlie and
in one bed together. Man, they were eighty two years old.
Nothing was going on, so they can put them in
the same bait. You know what's crazy when they start
dropping stuff. Nowadays, they'll tell you like, you know, Uncle
Phil was really over thirty nine, or Carl Winslow was
this or uh, dude, I guarantee you Charlie's grandfather was
(27:46):
probably like forty, like I'm older than him or something.
Now that's the weird that's the weirdest thing. Ro They
age fast. You look at like artists, Gilmour some guys
back in there and you're like, yeah, this was probably
his last season. No, this was his first game and
he looked fifty eight. True, I don't know what it was.
Hard times hard times. With that being said, I was
getting ready to say, pre burp, what were you gonna say?
(28:08):
Really to see how it came out smooth that time. Really,
what I was gonna say was bow Knicks I think
was in up operating in a perfect situation where there
were other conversations being had round quarterbacks. Right there are
other whether it's some regressing like man, what's going on
with some c. J Strau He's you know, or a
conversation while look at Jayden Daniels, or man, is it
(28:30):
Josh Allen's league or is it Lamar Jackson? That he
got to kind of just skate yep. And his team
kept getting better and better, and we remember we were
all kind of of know Sean Payton might have lost
it with Russell Wilson, know what I'm saying, And they
had a little period where they were playing some good
football too. But I think bow Knicks was able to
benefit from that benefit from this team getting better and
(28:50):
Sean Payton really getting his groove back that we kind
of just looked up like, wait, they're ten and seven.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Wait there in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, and you looked up and he had actually quietly
had it, had a really good season and and to
the earlier point we had from the call, you look
at it and you kind of forget too.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
He had some he can run.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You started looking at his rushing numbers too, man, I mean, yeah,
four hundred and thirty yards yep, and and and four touchdowns.
So you add that to to what he was able
to do, you're like, oh, shoot, boll Nix was really great.
So I think that's a great thing with these young quarterbacks.
They're coming in with so many starts.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Carrie. It used to be.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Historically you'd you'd come in, you'd red shirt or maybe
even if you played a little bit your first year
and with somebody else's you know, started for another.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Year too, maybe your junior year in senior year.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
With your years, Yeah, so you got anywhere from twenty
to twenty five is ish starts. Right Now, easiers are
coming in with forty forty five fifty I got COVID years,
transfer year.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I mean, these guys are coming in with so many
games under their belt. True.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That to me, that's why you're seeing them, you come
in and being able to have success. I'm not saying
they're you know, lighting it up like crazy, but they're
to come in and look good. That's a great point.
Caleb didn't have that. He played his He played his
three years and he was out right. Jayde and Daniels
and bow Knicks played multiple situations, multiple games. Yeah, a
(30:14):
lot of football, so the fact that they had success
isn't surprising. But again, that's the other thing with Caleb.
Caleb is young. He's in a real second year. This
guy is like, I don't know his age, but I'm
guessing he'd be like twenty one, twenty two. I'll look
it up. But any prop bets on what week one
his fingernails will be colored, I would say it's opening day.
(30:34):
I would definitely say pink. He's a pink guy, for sure.
He's a pink guy.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
He's twenty twenty three. He'll be twenty four in November.
Lolder than you think, oka a little bit. Yeah, all right,
on the way, we got the tie reck play of
the day.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Plus, I mean have Steve's de Sega jump in on
this too. The biggest rivalry in sports. I want to
throw one at you and see if you guys agree.
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Really?
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and Steve, this is what and Carrie Ryan, you can
jump in on this as well, Alex, anybody. But got
a few minutes here, and I was wondering because of course,
that is from the Dodgers sweeping of the Padres, which
at the at the beginning of it, the Padres had
finally got a game lead over them, which I think
Steven was at one point they were as.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Far back eight or nine, nine Johns, And.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So my question is this has been Is this the
best rivalry I believe automatically in baseball?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I think most.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I mean, obviously you still got the Yankees and Red Sox,
but I think baseball we'd all agree this is the
best ribot and even surpassed Dodgers Giants. But is it
kind of the best going in sports in general right now?
Anybody I'm asking as is still still right up there?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I forgot.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I was talking to Rod Parker like, okay, okay, Steve,
what you got to see?
Speaker 11 (34:16):
Steve got We're still duke in North Carolina. Okay, there
somewhere for hoops.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm trying to see if somebody gonna name the one
I'm gonna name because I don't want to sound biased.
That's a big clue. Please don't go missing Ohio State,
Michigan Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
There you go. Well, has it not been spectacular the
last especially the.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Last four or five years, well when hardball was there, Yes,
because there was a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure. All right, but Alabama Auburn obviously there you go.
See you always gotta go too far. Yeah, I think
it's I still think Michigan Ohio State last weekend of
the season, college football, and a lot usually especially the
last handful of years, has been at stake, whether it
(34:52):
be the Big Ten title, whether it be you know,
positioning to try to get into the college football playoffs.
So I think they're right there as well. But Ryan,
you disagree, You you got somebody else.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Well.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I do want to differentiate here because I think as
a Dodger fan, Okay, I think it's important to say
that they're company.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
About to try to clarify the Giants, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
I think there is a difference between a rivalry and
they are our rivals, and I think right now the
Dodgers Padres is an intense rivalry and it's a ton
of fun to watch and it's it's definitely the best
one the sport has to offer right now. But if
you were to ask a Dodger fan, who are your rivals,
they would still say the Giants.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's a good way of articulating it. And obviously you
know where.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
Well, that's actually what got the Dodgers in trouble for
many years years ago, is they didn't take it seriously
going to San Diego. Where for the city of San
Diego they hate Los Angeles as a city, forget the Dodgers.
They do when the Dodgers would visit, that was a
huge thing. And so the Dodgers for a long time
in the old days had a not a winning record down.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
There, because it's because sometimes and you name the team
and you named the sport, you're our super Bowl, You're
our World Series, You're our NBA Finals. When you to town,
dan get when the Lakers coming down, I don't care
for the Hornets and we suck, but dan Get, the
Lakers are here. If we can win this game with
Lebron and Luke or a d at the time, or
whoever it may be, Kobe, what have you, dangy, we
had a good season, you know, or at least it was.
(36:12):
It felt good for a few weeks around town. If
the Warriors would Katie and Steph come to town and
we beat them, if the Patriots come to town, or
just go right down to New York and beat the Jets,
and why back mouth not even I didn't even realize you.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I was locked into Steve. I didn't see you over there, Steve.
Speaker 11 (36:30):
So with the rivalry, even if Ohio State's winning almost
every year fifteen years, it's a legitimate question, is it
still it is?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Steve? Me and Steve usually we here, No I know
Steve Steve through the curve ball a news desk.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
That's a legitimate question.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Steve, don't Okay, what I need you to be a
non wonderful.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Yes, because I think the Dodgers are what seven and two,
eight and two against the.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Projects this year, and they got it coming up again
this weekend. It's a great game. So great game. And
also you got to beat when you start throwing balls
at managers sitting over there in the dugout, it's getting real.
Oh man, I didn't see I was just trying to
throw it over there to first, like, Okay, this is
some serious business. So hopefully we can. Then I just
mention how it's been in the postseason as well with Padres.
Thought they had some Dodgers come back, so hope hopefully
(37:14):
we get the same thing. It's always fun. Baseball has
been on the road lately for sure,
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That's right, it is The Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Kelvin Washington, Kerry Rhodes in for Rob for a man
who says, I never take days off, Alex, he's taking
seven months off, not two.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Four minutes. I thought it was pregnant, not full man,
not five. I don't realize.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It was just all that turkey and as belly and
bait checking the rounds. That's why we got a lot
going on on this Magic City Monday. We're gonna have
a great show lined up for you. We got, of course,
a bunch of football talk to get to. We got
Timothy Parker coming up in the next hour. He is
a reporter of a Spectrum Networks was covering the RAM
training gamp. He was at the Dodgers padre one of
(01:03):
the game in this series. So we'll talk to Timothy
Parker about what's happening in the LA Sports area. Looking
forward to that Tyler Dragon the following hour. It will
be of course in a for a reporter for USA Today,
bunch of NFL topics to get with him, but also
for you and I to discuss throughout the day. Let
me welcome in my partner for the day or next
(01:24):
couple of days. That is Carrie Rose was sub brother.
I was the weekend man. The weekend was good man.
Right now I'm in film mode, so filming a movie
right now, but like long hours, yeah, obviously, but good
times on set, good vibes, and I'm happy to be
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You know how that goes. You know, when we get
in the building, it's all First of all, we gotta
settle down. Coming in here in the same type of
eye we walked in all black, all black on black
with our shades. We look like the Blues brothers. I
don't know, the black brother something. It's got to be
another version of Yeah, Ryan wanted to be down. I
told him you could. There's like one level of black
that I was like, Ryan, they you can get us
(01:59):
with the clothes. There's one more level. Yeah, he's missing Shad.
We could be creole. He could be creole, little creole
in this family. Yeah, let's welcome in the eye couple crew.
We couldn't do this amazing show without them. We got
Ryan and for robb G. Now wait wait, wait wait
stop the music, Alex, I know wasn't even no music going.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Is Rob g solely out because it's his birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I believe? So?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
No, you got to be more. Steve Seger is on
the job. Find me something to updated some trending. This
better not be It is Rob G out strictly because
his birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Are you a team? It is my birthday? I'm taking
off workday.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
No, I was here on my birthday. So no, So
I'm not on board with robb G because my tripping.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, because number one, we're not a woman. Number two
we're not in high school. Yeah we don't. We don't
even need number two. Let's just start with numbers. What
the heck? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Is it only a day or is it like a
birthday month type week type thing?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Like we did a whole segment on that. Okay, we
did do it about things men shouldn't be doing. One
of them. You can't take it. This is it, this
is it. You gotta show up. But you know you
can listen.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You can take a weekend like we're gonna go down
to blah blah for my birthday. Okay, cool, I'm with that.
But the idea I'm not coming into work. Maybe it's
an extension. Maybe he was off on the weekend. I'm
gonna find this out. Steve Saeger's gonna get on top
of that.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He just looked at me like, that's not what I'm
doing today. He's like, he's like, we're gonna get to
the bottom of this. Speaking of Steve, of course, Steve
the Sager is here as well. He's gonna get you updated.
What's training and Alex on the boards on the ones
and two? All right, color, you know, would you say
sons out, buns out? One of us has to bring
the color to the show. Yeah, well, I can't say
the stand up.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Let me see. Okay, it's a red shirt from the
New York City Marathon. Look at that. I thought you
were talking about the runners on the shirt.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I'm gonna look mellenated the Brown Brothers for they're meland
for sure. Was this the but a matter of fact,
you're here. Usually your son's out, buns out.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Sent four days and I'm gone, okay, figured two week's gone.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
One day. We're gonna have the entire crew at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Not gonna happen. Maybe like the literal start of the
football week. We'll all be here at the same time.
All right, we got some again, some football to get
to him. Excited to do that. Ryan is gonna get
a set on what has been happening with young Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Caleb Williams had a very strong performance in his preseason
debut on Sunday, went six of ten passing for one
hundred and seven yards in a touchdown. PFF had his
great at eighty eight point nine. Ben Johnson had a
couple of really nice things to say for him after
the game. This is what Ben Johnson had to say.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Caleb made a couple big time throws in my opinion,
to keep that drive going, and some explosive plays there,
and so it was good.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was good to see.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I thought, really the three days of practice we had
this week and this game were the most he stacked
up good days in a row right now, and so
the challenges can be to keep pushing in that direction.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
All right, So here's my thing. We talked about this, Carrie.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I feel like I've even had some Caleb conversations with
you over the last couple of weeks. Sure, yeah, yeah,
So here's my thing. When you go to a really
really good school, right, and let's say at high school,
really top notch high school. I went to a top
five public school when I was back in my day,
and it was with all I knew, right, It's all
I knew, is all that was where I'm from. I'm
from an arbor and just grew up. Okay, what's the
(05:07):
big deal? Was not a great student? Shut up? Was
an average student there as far as the work side
of it. But the actual the brightness, the intelligence you
have it. I say this to say, while I was
there and you know, having fun, hanging out already doing
all that and just you know, burd you know, making
it by what I learned as I started to move
(05:28):
to other cities, was that time five education that I
was receiving and just me being you know, average whatever
put me well above so many other people. Once I
started being around kids who went to some of the
you know, rougher schools and other areas outside of Flynn,
outside of Detroit, and he was like, oh wow, me
just being around that type of education rubbed off. I
(05:51):
say that to say, Caleb Williams is benefiting from being
around Ben Johnson. Being around Ben Johnson, who is going
to expose the things that we knew his weaknesses were,
but challenge him to get better. Has an offense that
is the reliance upon him being better in order for
this thing to work. And you have a guy for
his entire tenure with the Detroit Lions was a top
(06:13):
five offense number one last year. So he knows what
he's doing. And so I think we're gonna get the
best version of Caleb Williams. It's going to take time,
because again, Caleb has been able to benefit from being
just gifted, being better, being faster, more athletic, and all
of that throughout middle school, high school, into college where
(06:34):
he was running around you getting it done and winning
Heisman's and you know, having success in that regard individually,
not necessarily team. And I think all of this is
him benefiting from the curriculum of Ben Johnson, from the
curriculum of holding you to a standard, to a curriculum
of get off the team, first teamers, get off the field.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
We just won't be acceptable. I'm burning timeouts.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You guys are taking forever to get out the huddle, right,
And I think the expectations are going to be high
for him with specifically Ben Johnson, but he's going to
be able to extract the best of him and like
I said, he's going to learn so much from that
university of Ben Johnson that he'll go to another school,
you know, and realize, like wow, me being here has
benefited and elevated my game so much. But I still
(07:20):
think it's going to take time. I still have still
my concerns. Yeah, I mean the first thing you said
is the most I guess positive thing for Caleb Williams.
Ben Johnson is an a type like a type, a type
of person, right, so the attention to details matter. You
talked about it. Caleb has been gifted. He's been one
of the best players I'm sure since he started playing
(07:42):
right and so it's come easy to him. When you
get to the NFL. It may seem easy in preseason,
it may seem easy in practice sometimes because you know
it just happens that way sometimes. But when those live
bullets started flying, and you see other people out there
trying to eat and make money for their families.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's a different.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And so for Caleb Williams, and I think for all
the detractors or even people on his side, calm down.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
This is year two for this quarterback. And even with.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
The supposedly down year that he had last year, if
you look at his numbers for a rookie, you'll think
it's pretty impressive. And so obviously when you come with
the generational talent titles and you know, people saying that
you're the best prospect since whatever, like, those expectations are
going to be high and unrealistic anyway. I mean, you
look at Peyton Manning when he came in, right, he
(08:32):
had all the tuols, he had the pedigree. Year one
he was trash. Cayleb Williams year one was better than
Peyton Manning. So calm down. What you're saying, He's gonna
have a better career than Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I know, yes.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Parker did not say that, Rob, But what I'm saying
is the fact that people want to the other thing
about all of this, which really makes me upset, to
be honest, is the coverage.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I think we have too much coverage.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I know we're in the busines up coverage, but I
think there are some people, there are some people that
should not be covering, Like we don't need to know
that his teammates didn't step up for him when he
got bumped, and like some of that information needs to
be handled within. And so the fact that we're getting
so much information and we're you know, we're really like
lining this thing up day by day. He had a
(09:20):
good day day one, day two. He's in training camp.
You're supposed to struggle. The coach is gonna put you
in situations where you have to figure it out. And
if he hasn't figured it out yet, it's gonna be
a problem.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
First of all, let me let me tell you what's
driving me crazy right now. You just brought that up
social media. Let me let me kill I want to
slap everybody. Here's but specific. Why remember the good old
days when Sports Center would post something on a on
a page or put something out there. It would actually
be something about basketball, football, baseball, a sport we all enjoy.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yes, remember it'd be an incredible highlight.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Now though, just posts a random kid shooting his u
his box of cereal and a cart in a Walmart
top ten? What what is going on? That's what I'm
telling you, Yo. The standards, Yo, Yo, the standards. We
gotta relax. I understand the need to push content, especially
if you're a content creator like a regular person, but
(10:17):
the standard bear has got to come on. Now, let's
get back to bearing them standards. Because I go on
my social media and I see the most random. It'll
be a five year old in the backyard who put
a spin move on his friend, you know, and playing
backyard sandline football, and that'll make all that.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I'm like, all right, why are we showing that? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I said that to say to your point, we do
cover everything. We'll cover every throw. You used to just
know only in the preseason game.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Maybe if something huge or bad happened came out. Now
we know every throw, every nick, every I gotta scratch.
I got a boo boo. Man, what teammate yelled at them?
And the things that are becoming things were so regular.
You played in the league.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
That's it. Not too far removed.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Us bumping chest and us with that was we all
been seeing hard knocks for twenty some years that's so regular.
But now it's like, oh my gosh, yo, this is
happening in training cap he grabbed some water and sprayed
it and they got okay.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But it's been happening guys.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Kelvin, he struggled in team blitz pick up against the
entral squad that they was going at. I don't remember
who it was, but somebody reported that. I'm like, you
saw him in one period and said, this guy isn't
going to have a good year this year.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Relax.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Now, he did look bad in basketball shorts and T shirts.
I did need more out of him. I did need
more out of him than five seventeen Carrie, Carrie carry.
You see what happened in game one, well, the game
two of preseason when he got his snaps what he did?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He looked good, right, he looked good.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Listen, I hope he looks to an extent as a
Detroit hold on. You can look good, but don't look good.
I need him to be like you know, I needed
to be somebody else. He can't be halle Berry looking
good like that. Helld on, don't look like that. Okay,
you can be cool, don't look that good. My point is,
you know the preseason is going to be too much
(12:03):
to try to go back and forth with right like
we're gonna because now he looks mid the next game,
ile you and I got to come on here and
do that. That's why I, for me, was the larger
point of Ben Johnson is going to whatever's in there,
I'm gonna be able to extract it the best out
of you. And you know this from a business or
entrepreneurial standpoint, one of the things you're supposed to do
(12:23):
is hire to your weaknesses. You want somebody that, hey,
I'm not good at organization, will find someone who's organization
league spectacular. Hey I'm not good at math, or I'm
not good at my finances, go get a financial advisor,
somebody who can do all of that. I say that
to say this is why if you're a Bears fan,
you'd be hopeful that Ben Johnson, that's what he does.
(12:45):
If you looked at Jared Goff and the offense, it
was very precision oriented, right because you know Jared Goff
ain't rolling around and running every although every now and
again he did catch a pass, he caught a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Pass, but they were so unexpected. That's why he was open.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
That falls the same category as that little kid shooting
the ball the siria in the buttle.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Okay, yeah that does. He was wide open.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It was like when Peyton Manning used to play fake,
fake the handoff and then keep running.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Everybody like what man, he is not running?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
He actually running. Yeah, that's a touchdown. We're gonna have
to just give up because we did not see that coming.
But I said that to say, I just think Ben
Johnson's gonna be if it's there, if he can be
good with timing, if he can be on point on time,
if he can be his processing can be sped up.
This is the guy that will help him do it,
and that their marriage needs to be one that can
(13:34):
go stand the test of time because they can get
the best out of each other. Hey, these are the
things you're great at, Ben Johnson. By the way, you
might be getting a guy who can do the other
things too, Meaning I can actually run out of the
pipe when when the play we have designed doesn't work.
I can scramble that pass was supposed to I know,
but I got the arm, strength and talent to get
it to the other guy. The second or third, look,
(13:55):
if it need be, so if they can marriage and
make that happen, and I'm expect it to be fireworks
necessarily yearor two right off the bat. Yeah, but if
they can get that thing Roland, that will be scary
for that division for sure and in the league as
they continue to move forward. But again, I think there's
gonna be he's gonna it's gonna take time because again,
for his whole life, I've just simply been better than you.
(14:16):
I've just simply made a way when there's been no way,
and you subconsciously become relying on that. And that is
the difficulty with people who are extremely talented. It is
to rely right you get to the NBA. I've always
been faster, jump, higher, stronger, And then, like you said,
yeah do so have all of us, and some of
us are working alive. Kobe Bryant every year, I'm in
(14:37):
I'm in my lab Lebron every year. I'm Michael Jordan,
I'm coming back. I'm getting better, I'm better. I'm Steph Curry.
I'm working on my left hand even more. I'm working
on this shot. And dudes, just or I can hoop, No,
we all can hoop.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
We all can do it. Kelvin the thing for Caleb,
and I'm gonna make it simple.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
If he's coachable this year, he's gonna do his job,
and he's gonna do it well because the tools are their.
You watch him all the things you said, he's elusive.
He can make plays happen off of off of the
first read. Right, if he's accurate and on time with
the first read and he's and he's coachable, this year,
this team's gonna be. This team's gonna be right in
the thick of that division. And I'm sorry, I'm here.
(15:15):
I'm sorry for you Lions. If we already got to
deal with the Packers and everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But if he's coachable and he really takes in what
Ben Johnson's selling, they're gonna be they're gonna be dangerous.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Know you just made me not even I hope he's not.
I hope, I hope.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I hope Ben Johnson turns into Ben Johnson the track star.
There you be out here cheating. Steven't wanted to smile
out of you on that one, Steve, No, Steve ain't
paying attention. He was right all right, eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. Uh, let's let's get We'll take
a couple of calls on that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
If you are.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Like carrying on and still saying, pump the breaks a
little bit on just a preseason few drives. Yes, pump
the breaks. But where are you with Kayley Williams. Do
you believe this will be a breakout year? Do you
believe he is maybe had some of his issues will
never change. Maybe you're not, Maybe you feel he was
all these last three years or so eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Foxes. Take a few calls on this one.
(16:05):
It is the Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington. We got Kerrie
Roose in for Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
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Speaker 1 (16:46):
He love no, no, no, no, he absolutely loves Lorilla.
By the way, shot out to Saga, who is in
the building. Honest, time he's been in here. I thought
he was doing our socials and the online content today,
but it's actually Elijah.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I beat you to it. I beat you.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's because you're listening that you are vibing. How dare
I interrupt your Glorilla? It is the odd couple Covid
Washington with my man carry Roads in for Rob on
a Magic City Monday. How dare you make me like
Lorilla the way I do? Alex, I blame you man.
Alex loves it, he loves her. You're putting a lot
on like as if you don't.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I don't listen. I don't. I'm not Glorilla got some
like the hard.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's a lot of it's a lot of how do
I say this, It's a lot of the ladies right now.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It has a certain sound to it. Hers is hard.
If it's seven pm Friday, I'm shut off my moose snunckle.
Just know that whoa, Hey, can you where's the dump button? Hey?
I hit hit. We're not dumping. We're not he said,
we're not dumping.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
You are a ridiculous that's very suns.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Out, buns out as far as we could go. Now
sun's out. Another thing.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I'm off for two weeks. You're lucky if I'm wearing close. Yeah,
that's Ryan's look you sit next to him. All right,
we're talking about Caleb Williams. By the way, we're excited
to announce a brand new YouTube channel. That's right, Kerrie,
we have our own YouTube channel now now just the
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, we have our own it's the Odd Couple one
on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
All you gotta do is go to YouTube dot com
slash odd Couple FSR and if you're already there on YouTube,
just search on a couple FSR. Be sure to hit
the subscribe button and you'll have instant access to your
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brand new channel again, just search out a couple FSR
and YouTube channel and subscribe. All right, we were not talking
about Caleb Williams. I'm still leaning towards optimism for him. Yes,
(18:43):
I still believe he can be closer to what we
saw in college. As far as being dynamic, I don't
think he's I don't think he is the shoe in
as everybody you was saying for the prior to the
last couple of years. I think the NFL is going
to make him work and prove it. But I think
having been Johnson is going to help. But I think
he again, he was in for the awakening that the
(19:03):
NFL is for a lot of people. A lot of times.
We'll take a few calls. Let's go to Drew in
New Jersey. Drew, you're on with the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
By the way, if you want to get into I.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Think it's just like you said, it's a preseason game.
We've seen a lot of guys look good in preseason.
I'm usually let's see where he's at in at that
ten game mark. That ten game mark is where you
start seeing players really are. You saw that with bow Knicks,
you saw that with Jane Daniels. I think bow Knicks
was a trolleysist his first four games and then he
(19:37):
went on a tear and the one thing I'll also say,
is I feel like a lot of media is very
quick to like, let's write something narrative wise and let's
put it in existence, right. I think we did the
same thing with bow Knicks last year, where we didn't
(19:57):
I would say most people did not know much about Bone.
They didn't know one he could run because that was
all he did at Alburn. He's terrible at Aliburn, yep.
But again we didn't know the athletic profile, just like
he didn't know Jaydon Daniels.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
No good point, Drew, your good point.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
I'll just say, like, let's just wait and see that
ten game mark, see where he's at.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Drew, how, first of all, get off my phone, Drew,
because Drew out here want to be nuanced, to make sense,
to be patient. How dare you in twenty twenty five, Drew,
You're not allowed to be patient and nuance in the
twenty twenty Let me throw this out to you right now, Kelvin.
This this is the other thing, right. So we talk
about perspectives. We talk about people having their opinions about
certain players and the greatness of that season, greatness of
(20:42):
that player or the opposite, right, the worst or the
absolute worst about a player, Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna
say two numbers. I'm going to say, okay, two different players, right, Okay,
thirty seven hundred yards, twenty nine touchdowns, twelve interceptions, ninety
three point three rating good. The other one thirty five
hundred yards, twenty touchdowns, six interceptions in the eighty seven
(21:05):
point eight rating right, and one was one of those
was thought on being a really successful rookie season, and
the other one wasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So who who's the all the person I'm talking about
right now?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's The Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington, my man Carrie Rose
in for Rob on this Magic City Monday. Might as
well call it Glorilla Monday. Oh my god, the way
Alex acts around these parts.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
There it is? Okay, there it is. I like that.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Just Keith as a drop right there, Alex, all right,
give me these numbers again. I want to guess the quarterback.
I feel like I'm on a game show. All right,
what did I hear it is. Why did his laugh
stund just like that laugh you always played.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
There? It is?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It is?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
How the second you like that carrier?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Or maybe maybe the drop is carry? All right? Maybe,
but no, listen the numbers, all right, give me I'm again.
I'm right.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
The first quarterback right, okay, thirty seven hundred twenty nine touchdowns,
twelve interceptions, ninety three point three.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Rating, right, really good? Okay, all right?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
The other one thirty five hundred forty one yards, twenty touchdowns,
six interceptions, eighty seven point eight rating, twenty one and six,
twenty and six.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Twenty and six. Okay, okay, what's the question? Who's who? Yeah?
Which one is which? All right? One?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
They said one was a really great year team over
to you. So I think I know the answers to these.
The first was bow who bow Rix. I remember those
commercials bow Rix to Harrickins, bo whoa bo rix box.
That's what I'm calling them all next season. Just get
ready for that this upcoming season. I like that bo
(22:52):
oh bowl Rix aka bo Nicks.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And then young Williams, Yes, so you're saying, I will
let you break down what you're saying that one was
considered really good first campaign and the other one was
mid yep.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Is that what you're saying? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
See, I think kayleb Williams is the perfect example of
we can look at a US confirmation bias.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Kaylu Williams season was exactly what you wanted it to be.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Thank you. That's what I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He put up the numbers that and had the outs
meaning the scapegoats, exactly what you needed. So if you
want to say, man, look look at these numbers, he
did this and this and this forty one and he
was good man, he was on his way. He was
in a tough division. I can sell you on that.
I can sell you that his coach lost in three
to four games on his own.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I can tell you that defensive.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Backs running out in the crowd acting like the game
over when it's a hell Mary to still be done
cost him a game. So I can sell you on
Kayla Williams and the chaos. I lost the coach a third,
you know, maybe the quarter of the season left. Within
the season, I can tell you that he's really good
confirmation by that's what I saw. I saw not I
could sell you the other way yep, couldn't get out
of the huddle. He was he wasn't processing. He was
(24:07):
sacked forty times. His own offensive lineman had some things
to say. I could show you on that that he's
playing too much Hero Superman ball. Kayleb Williams is the
perfect example for confirmation bias to be exactly whatever you
wanted to be when you're doing sports radio across this
country or sports talk television.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And that's my point.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's why I say, and you said it as well,
just chill, let this thing play out. He's in a
new system. You cannot report on everything he's doing in
training camp right now. He's learning a new system on
the fly, the cadence, getting them out in and out
of the huddle, on time processing, learning where the blitzers
are coming from, in a new system.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And so if we're comparing and we're looking at what
this guy can do and what his capabilities are, we
saw some of that both ways in his rookie year,
which for all of these rookies, even Jayden Daniels, there
were down moments for him as well. Even though it
looked seamless for him, there were down moments for him.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
As well.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
There was a learning curve, and so that's the problem.
It wasn't down long. Listen when we bring his numbers
up till he was Donnie McClerkin. No, he fall down,
but up he got up. Of course he was in
a better situation though. Yeah, listen, I don't disagree with that.
And again I think also his his division wasn't great.
So but I do think you know who enjoys what
(25:25):
Andrew the caller had. I mean Drew the caller was
talking about in that Sometimes it's great to be the
guy who gets to you get to Russell Wilson, this
thing meaning third round pick. Not that wasn't both Nick's.
But I'm saying I don't come in with all the
hype in the fan fair. I get to kind of
just look around the shoulder. Ain't nobody really looking too much?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Really? Excuse me? The pressure? Whoa whoa, Hey, hold up,
hold up, Alex?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know that for your boy sounded like I just had.
I was in a Willie Wonk and a Chuck infected house.
I thought I secured it over here, kind of turned
like and secure rook a salt and came back up
a bad Let me.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Find out this coffee. God, oh my god, oh now
you want to work that fast? Alex Yo.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I was like, no, you were like I was like,
I had out about experience.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I thought it was another person. I thought Kevin Williams,
not Joe Run Like. Yo, you ever done radio before?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
That is it's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Man, Hey, I hate hatelayers.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Mess up? Do I need to call it?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Uh? We got like some un I.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Feel like I feel like I'm like that Willie Wonkin
one time. In order to get to the ceiling to float,
you had to burn. I'm floating right now. The heck
was that?
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Man?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Make a good point to define the whole time till
he get a gold ticket. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Man, First of all, there's a lot to be scripted.
Why were all the grandparents in the bed together? Both sides?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I've been I've been needing to know this for however long,
however old I am. That's all I needed to know.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
We're just okay with all the parents in the bed
together for twenty five years. It was hard times. Back then,
it was a hard time. Don't they get a song?
Cut the bed in half? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Watching her daughter work the entire time slaving all this stuff,
and it's like, oh, go take it.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Every couple in the nineteen sixties and below was we're
in separate beds, right the HUDs because they didn't want
to put a man and a woman in.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Bed on TV back.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But somehow Willie Wonka had multiple grandparents or Charlie and
in one bed together. Man, they were eighty two years old.
Nothing was going on, so they can put them in
the same bait. You know what's crazy when they start
dropping stuff. Nowadays, they'll tell you like, you know, Uncle
Phil was really over thirty nine, or Carl Winslow was
this or uh, dude, I guarantee you Charlie's grandfather was
(27:46):
probably like forty, like I'm older than him or something.
Now that's the weird that's the weirdest thing. Ro They
age fast. You look at like artists, Gilmour some guys
back in there and you're like, yeah, this was probably
his last season. No, this was his first game and
he looked fifty eight. True, I don't know what it was.
Hard times hard times. With that being said, I was
getting ready to say, pre burp, what were you gonna say?
(28:08):
Really to see how it came out smooth that time. Really,
what I was gonna say was bow Knicks I think
was in up operating in a perfect situation where there
were other conversations being had round quarterbacks. Right there are
other whether it's some regressing like man, what's going on
with some c. J Strau He's you know, or a
conversation while look at Jayden Daniels, or man, is it
(28:30):
Josh Allen's league or is it Lamar Jackson? That he
got to kind of just skate yep. And his team
kept getting better and better, and we remember we were
all kind of of know Sean Payton might have lost
it with Russell Wilson, know what I'm saying, And they
had a little period where they were playing some good
football too. But I think bow Knicks was able to
benefit from that benefit from this team getting better and
(28:50):
Sean Payton really getting his groove back that we kind
of just looked up like, wait, they're ten and seven.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Wait there in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, and you looked up and he had actually quietly
had it, had a really good season and and to
the earlier point we had from the call, you look
at it and you kind of forget too.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
He had some he can run.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You started looking at his rushing numbers too, man, I mean, yeah,
four hundred and thirty yards yep, and and and four touchdowns.
So you add that to to what he was able
to do, you're like, oh, shoot, boll Nix was really great.
So I think that's a great thing with these young quarterbacks.
They're coming in with so many starts.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Carrie. It used to be.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Historically you'd you'd come in, you'd red shirt or maybe
even if you played a little bit your first year
and with somebody else's you know, started for another.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Year too, maybe your junior year in senior year.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
With your years, Yeah, so you got anywhere from twenty
to twenty five is ish starts. Right Now, easiers are
coming in with forty forty five fifty I got COVID years,
transfer year.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
I mean, these guys are coming in with so many
games under their belt. True.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That to me, that's why you're seeing them, you come
in and being able to have success. I'm not saying
they're you know, lighting it up like crazy, but they're
to come in and look good. That's a great point.
Caleb didn't have that. He played his He played his
three years and he was out right. Jayde and Daniels
and bow Knicks played multiple situations, multiple games. Yeah, a
(30:14):
lot of football, so the fact that they had success
isn't surprising. But again, that's the other thing with Caleb.
Caleb is young. He's in a real second year. This
guy is like, I don't know his age, but I'm
guessing he'd be like twenty one, twenty two. I'll look
it up. But any prop bets on what week one
his fingernails will be colored, I would say it's opening day.
(30:34):
I would definitely say pink. He's a pink guy, for sure.
He's a pink guy.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
He's twenty twenty three. He'll be twenty four in November.
Lolder than you think, oka a little bit. Yeah, all right,
on the way, we got the tie reck play of
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Speaker 3 (30:47):
We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Plus, I mean have Steve's de Sega jump in on
this too. The biggest rivalry in sports. I want to
throw one at you and see if you guys agree.
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Speaker 3 (32:51):
Really?
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(33:24):
and Steve, this is what and Carrie Ryan, you can
jump in on this as well, Alex, anybody. But got
a few minutes here, and I was wondering because of course,
that is from the Dodgers sweeping of the Padres, which
at the at the beginning of it, the Padres had
finally got a game lead over them, which I think
Steven was at one point they were as.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Far back eight or nine, nine Johns, And.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
So my question is this has been Is this the
best rivalry I believe automatically in baseball?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I think most.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I mean, obviously you still got the Yankees and Red Sox,
but I think baseball we'd all agree this is the
best ribot and even surpassed Dodgers Giants. But is it
kind of the best going in sports in general right now?
Anybody I'm asking as is still still right up there?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I forgot.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I was talking to Rod Parker like, okay, okay, Steve,
what you got to see?
Speaker 11 (34:16):
Steve got We're still duke in North Carolina. Okay, there
somewhere for hoops.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm trying to see if somebody gonna name the one
I'm gonna name because I don't want to sound biased.
That's a big clue. Please don't go missing Ohio State,
Michigan Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
There you go. Well, has it not been spectacular the
last especially the.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Last four or five years, well when hardball was there, Yes,
because there was a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
for sure. All right, but Alabama Auburn obviously there you go.
See you always gotta go too far. Yeah, I think
it's I still think Michigan Ohio State last weekend of
the season, college football, and a lot usually especially the
last handful of years, has been at stake, whether it
(34:52):
be the Big Ten title, whether it be you know,
positioning to try to get into the college football playoffs.
So I think they're right there as well. But Ryan,
you disagree, You you got somebody else.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Well.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I do want to differentiate here because I think as
a Dodger fan, Okay, I think it's important to say
that they're company.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
About to try to clarify the Giants, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
I think there is a difference between a rivalry and
they are our rivals, and I think right now the
Dodgers Padres is an intense rivalry and it's a ton
of fun to watch and it's it's definitely the best
one the sport has to offer right now. But if
you were to ask a Dodger fan, who are your rivals,
they would still say the Giants.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's a good way of articulating it. And obviously you
know where.
Speaker 11 (35:31):
Well, that's actually what got the Dodgers in trouble for
many years years ago, is they didn't take it seriously
going to San Diego. Where for the city of San
Diego they hate Los Angeles as a city, forget the Dodgers.
They do when the Dodgers would visit, that was a
huge thing. And so the Dodgers for a long time
in the old days had a not a winning record down.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
There, because it's because sometimes and you name the team
and you named the sport, you're our super Bowl, You're
our World Series, You're our NBA Finals. When you to town,
dan get when the Lakers coming down, I don't care
for the Hornets and we suck, but dan Get, the
Lakers are here. If we can win this game with
Lebron and Luke or a d at the time, or
whoever it may be, Kobe, what have you, dangy, we
had a good season, you know, or at least it was.
(36:12):
It felt good for a few weeks around town. If
the Warriors would Katie and Steph come to town and
we beat them, if the Patriots come to town, or
just go right down to New York and beat the Jets,
and why back mouth not even I didn't even realize you.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I was locked into Steve. I didn't see you over there, Steve.
Speaker 11 (36:30):
So with the rivalry, even if Ohio State's winning almost
every year fifteen years, it's a legitimate question, is it
still it is?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Steve? Me and Steve usually we here, No I know
Steve Steve through the curve ball a news desk.
Speaker 11 (36:43):
That's a legitimate question.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Steve, don't Okay, what I need you to be a
non wonderful.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Yes, because I think the Dodgers are what seven and two,
eight and two against the.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Projects this year, and they got it coming up again
this weekend. It's a great game. So great game. And
also you got to beat when you start throwing balls
at managers sitting over there in the dugout, it's getting real.
Oh man, I didn't see I was just trying to
throw it over there to first, like, Okay, this is
some serious business. So hopefully we can. Then I just
mention how it's been in the postseason as well with Padres.
Thought they had some Dodgers come back, so hope hopefully
(37:14):
we get the same thing. It's always fun. Baseball has
been on the road lately for sure,
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