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August 21, 2025 31 mins

Former NFL offensive lineman Ephraim Salaam is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin tell us why they want Jerry Jones to be more like the late, great Jerry Buss, share their thoughts on how Shedeur Sanders responded to Dillon Gabriel's controversial 'competitors vs entertainers' comments,  and tell us why they have a problem with Micah Parsons' social media post aimed at Jerry Jones. Plus, the guys go head-to-head in this week's edition of Teichert's Tower of Trivia. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, So get back to this Jerry Jones you
were talking about. You expect a deal in the next
couple of weeks with him and Micah finally finalizing us.
A bunch of drama right now, the whole soaproper. But
Jerry Jones was on with Michael Irvin. By the way,
you ain't an ex athlete if you don't have a
podcast at this point, matter of fact, or an athlete period,
because current athletes who are playing sports have podcasts included

(00:46):
mic and Parses. But here's what Jerry had to say
about it.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
We wanted to send the details to the agent. The
agent soldiers to be asked, I'm.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Mike and I talk and then we were gonna send
it over to the agent. And we had our agreements
on term amount guarantees, everything. We were going to send
it over to the agent, and the agent said, don't
bother because we've got all that to negotiate. Well, we've
got this theory resolved in my mind for the dollars, cowboys,

(01:18):
and we've got it done. And if the agent wants
to finish up the detail, which should and we're.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Ready to go. But as far as the amount of money,
the years, the guarantees, all of that, we negotiate.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
No, he no better than that. Okay, you go ahead
because you.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
And you can tell by the way he telling the story,
he doesn't even believe that. You know for a fact,
you cannot go into negotiation with a person or an
entity or a side and their negotiating partner the principle
and the negotiation isn't present.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
What does he have an agent for.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Let's carry this conversation on the other side, because there's
a lot to get to with that.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Bri is gonna break it down. She's got what's trending.
Let's call pre all right, you guys.

Speaker 7 (02:12):
Week three of the NFL preseason super exciting, totally not.
The Panthers are on top of the Steelers three to zero.
Later on, about an hour from now, Jackson Dart and
the Giants. We'll take on the Patriots. In Major League Baseball,
still scoreless between the Red Sox and the Yankees. It's
going to the bottom of the first. The Astros have
a two lead over the Orioles. They're trying to stop

(02:34):
a four games skid. And earlier today the Brewers became
the first team to eighty wins. They defeated the Cubs
four to one. The Dodgers knocked off the Rockies nine
to five, and then Nationals came back and beat the
Mets nine to three. And that's it, guys, back.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
To you, all right, thank you, Brio. It is the
odd couple. Kelvin Washington. We got a for salam In
on his TV thing. So on Thursday, Achey knees, sif
back Joyce not cooperating, No on not time talking about
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Speaker 5 (03:09):
Use as directed, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
The principal, the main person who is handling these dealings,
has to be in the room continuing.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
It has to happen that way. That's negotiat you. It
doesn't hold up in court. It doesn't hold up in court.
Like even now, say you're getting married and you want
to do a prenup and you give your wife or
your husband to be a prenup and they go through
it and sign it. The first question will be asked,
did you understand everything in it? And did you have

(03:37):
a legal rep represent yep? And if the answer is no,
it's void. There is a due process. Jerry's been doing
this far too long to think that he can corner
a player under the guise of talking about something else,

(03:57):
because that came out earlier too, that Michael Micah went
to the office and they were talking about something completely different.
It switched over to contract talk. And it's probably one
of those Hey, you know, I hope about another five years.
We love to have you here for your whole career.
Oh man, that sounds great, Jerry. No, we gonna guarantee
you about eighty percent of it, you know, put you
right up there and the top with with your peers,

(04:21):
and you know, we're really love for you to be here.
And how does that sound to you? And you're like, yeah, absolutely,
you can't now leave that conversation and be like boom,
the deal's done.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
I'm gonna send this to the agent. The deal's done.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
No.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
If I'm the agent, I'm saying no, wait to wait,
no hold on time out, No, no, you negotiate with me, Jerry,
and then I bring my client into the fold. We
talk about it, and then we can redline it, we
can agree to it. But this is a negotiation. You
have to have two parties negotiating. Michael Parsons is not

(05:00):
representing himself in contracts. That's why he has the agent
he has who represents a bunch of high profile players.
That's his job. Jerry's job is to try to get
a deal. That's his job. That's what he does. And

(05:22):
he'll tell you that I'm a master negotiator. Yeah, if
you're negotiating with people who don't do this, who don't
do it for a living, Michael Park, that's like telling
Michael Parson's agent to go sack the quarterback on third
and long.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
That's what that's like.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
If the deal is done, Okay, every third down, Michael
Parson's agent will come onto the field and put pressure
on the quarterback. That's it. And I just don't I
don't understand. Once again, these are talking points Jerry goes
on the podcast. That's all we talk about. He knows

(05:57):
what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Listen you. I don't even have to echo. As far
as the legal end of this. My wife is a lawyer,
trust me. I can't even do nothing myself without Well.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
If Fox called me right.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Now, it was like, hey, yes, sign real quick, and
I just signed. My wife would have my head on
a speak to your lawyers. She let me see it.
Let's go over, let's look at this now. You know
who I partly blame for this, or a large portion
of the blame goes to Michaeh. You remember what he

(06:32):
said months ago right on his podcast. Oh man, I
want to be a cowboy for life. Oh man, I
don't even care about the money. I'll take less. I
just want to rob g knows how many times I
bring that up. That's literally there you go. So what
does Jerry do hear that? Oh man, you got him money, Schmney.
You know I'm gonna take care of you to worry

(06:53):
about you. Look, you know how I did with emmittt.
You know I got Michael looking you go through the
history of guy. I take care of my guy. You
want see paid, You're gonna get paid. You know you're
gonna get paid. Let's just make it and you're like, yeah,
that sound good. That's why I said it. Then in
real time Rob g knows listeners know, Micah, you don't
do that. It's not about you're a bad teammate or

(07:15):
you're a bad person. If you are a bad player,
if you don't want to know, you can want to
be there. But I don't have to articulate that on
a on a broadcasting I can tell my agent, hey man,
ultimately I want to be here, but we're gonna do
what's best for me because I have to be in
the business of Micah. Because let me tell you who
the cowboys are. In the business of the cowboy.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I tell people that in any industry, I don't
care if it's what we do, they do. You have
to be in the business of you because the entity
you're cooperating with, working with, they are in the business
of them. And so for that's why I was saying, Micah,
you let your agent agent, let him work or she work.
I don't know who it is, but let them work.
And so now here we are Dave Mullagetta, so their

(07:57):
time agent, Big daimell he better be having so let
Dave work. And now, of course, Jerry, when you called
me with some random back deal on a napkin, mhm,
that I'm gonna be like, hold on, man, hey, hey, hey,
send that to my office. Let me talk about that,
let me take a look at that. So none of this,
none of this is surprising, and you still you still

(08:20):
believe though ultimately it's gonna get done.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I do. I think it's gonna get done because this
is a pattern we've seen. When did Dak sign has deal?
When did the CD sign is deal?

Speaker 6 (08:34):
This is a pattern even Ezekiel years back, we spent
the whole offseason talking about Dallas, not about their their
draft picks, or what type of team they're gonna be,
or or the changes they've made to get better. We
spent the entire offseason for the last three years talking

(08:56):
about how an ep they've been and drawing out and
signing these players and drawing this out, only to have
them going into the regular season science field and delivered
that that's now the talking point. They're not going to
be better than Washington, definitely not. They're not going to

(09:16):
be better than the Eagles. They may not be better
than the Giants. So what would we be talking about.
I mean, if I this and this is why we'll
be frustrating. If I'm Dak Prescott in the sense of.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm looking at it as all things considering we're healthy again,
why can't we be twelve and five?

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
A lot of the same core. I'm healthy, I'm ready
to go, you know, new coach, new vibe. Why can't
we be back to that? Maybe not literally twelve and five,
but why can't we be back to really compete in
a hard team to beat? And I would be having
that mindset, but again it's everything else. But if you
are that coach, I'm sorry, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys,

(10:02):
let me tell you one thing you used to at
this point.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Drama.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
You're used to your name in the headlines, whether you
wanted to or not, your team in the headlines, whether
it merits it or not, Drama, controversy, all of that.
If you're the if you have, if you are a
QB one with the star in your helmet, you have
to be used to this and whether that's Tony Romo
Troy Aikman. Now, Dak Prescott, do you have to be
used to that? This is just par for the course.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
So he has David MUGLETTA has Jalen Ramsey, Deshaun Watson,
Bubba Budda Baker, Michael Thompson, Michael Thomas, Jordan Love, aj Terrell,
Michael Parsons, and Kyle Pitts. He's more than proficient in negotiating.
He already got Jordan loves some Brett, right, he this

(10:49):
is what he does. Like I'm saying, but we don't
want to see him on third and long going out
there trying to put press. So why would you put
a player in position to do something he's not equipped
to do and he didn't sign up to.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Do it because Jerry likes to do the whole once
a cowboy or it's a cowboy one of the team.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
You're my man. You know.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It was like that fratnizing kind of a thing. So
he loves to get up on Michael Man. You know
it's them. Don't let him separate us me.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
We cool. Come on, man, I'm taking care of you.
You taking care of You're playing hard.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm doing all of that fratenizing and kind of buttering
up Micah if you will, so that you know, even
if fucking Finago five million out of ten million out
of it, you know, short him a few foul a few,
because Jerry does get off Robgy on being the maverick
and making that deal, and you know, yeah, he enjoys
that part of it.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Everything you said about Jerry is right.

Speaker 8 (11:42):
But is he wrong though, because being a cowboy leads
to a lot of other things that you ordinarily wouldn't get.
Michael Parson's point blank period would not have a podcast
to Bleacher Report if he wasn't on the Gidallas Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
That's not true.

Speaker 8 (11:55):
How many other past rushers got podcasts that we talk
about on other networks. I mean, Von Miller is much
more accomplished than anything Michael Parsons has done.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Yes, he does that exactly. M Heyward has one. And
does anyone talk about the poet? Yeah? They literally on
TV almost every day they do not talk about they
talk about Michael Parsons. I mean, I'm at the side with.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Robber and what I'm saying that we've said a thing
or two from Cam I get that, But let me
Aaron Rodgers, let me tell you why it's what Micah
is saying.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
It's because it's the Cowboys. No, it's because of what
he's saying. He'd be saying some you'd be like, what
is happening right now? It is the combination of the two.
It's the Cowboys, it's the Cowboys star that. But he's
he DeMarcus Lawrence leaving. He clapping at him first right
off the bat. You ain't worth all that. I'm glad
you go like I'm saying, it's what you like.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Jalen Ramsey has said some wild stuff, like there's a
Travis Kelsey before he got this really big deal with Wondery,
was saying some wild stuff on his podcast before and
now it doesn't really happen because he's more corporate, I
guess with a new thing. But Jerry Jones, for all
of his faults, is absolutely correct when he says being
a Dallas Cowboy has benefits.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
You're not gonna get anywhere.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Listen, if you're a quarterback with the Cowboys, you're on TV.
Jason Garrett's on TV, Tony Romo's on TV. Troy Aikman
has been on TV for now twenty some years.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
Dak Prescott deals with Dannon, Dak Prescott, Darryld Moose, Johnston
had a career for like fifteen years calling games.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:19):
Shador Sanders and having some conversations about a couple of things,
and we talked about this yesterday Dylan Gabriel or was it.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Two days ago? It might have been two days You
might not have been here for that.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
But when Dylan Gabriel, uh said that there's entertainers, there's
competitors immediately social media maybe be gang gang, you better
pick aside.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
He didn't mean it. He was taking a shot at
the door.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Which one were you on to go back a couple
of days to eat him because you weren't here.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
I'll tell you for me.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Ah. I wanted it to be about Sedor so I
can come on and talk smack about Dylan and be like, man,
how you gonna say this? A bunch of teammate letting
them the pressure of the media crack you. Look at you,
that's supposed to be your teammate. You threw It wasn't
about your door. It was about entertainers. When he's talking
about us, you're on the side. Now you're on this
side entertainers and folks who you know, this is what

(15:09):
we do for a living. He was about that, I'm
a competitor. He had been saying that before. If you
go back and look some other his press conference, he
had said this before, So I wanted that smoke. I
wanted the drama, but it really wasn't there. So I
was on that SIDEU. I think two things, and both
things could be true. Okay, this young man is in
a real fight. That is true. To make the active roster.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
With someone who was drafted two rounds after him, that's
a real thing.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
That pressure is real.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
He's in those meetings, in the practices every single day.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
He hears what's going on. He was stood on the sideline,
watch you do it. Do what he did.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
He went out performed well, and so now he's like,
now I'm here to compete no matter what. I'm not
here to entertain. I'm not an entertainer. I'm not here.
So yeah, in context, yeah, he's talking about the media
and what they're trying to make of the situation. We're

(16:12):
not making anything of the situation. The situation is a
real life current issue. We know Joe Flacco is gonna
be QB one. What we don't know is who else
will be dressed out opening day. You can either be
on the practice squad or you can be the backup

(16:34):
quarterback they're fighting for that. It's gonna come down to
this last game tomorrow, I believe it is or a Saturday,
to see who it's going to be on the opening
day roster. Well, so when Shadura comes in with this

(16:54):
whole you know, group of playing his own music and
all of that, he's entertaining us. He's showing us, Oh
it's about to go down. I'm about to put on
the show. And although Dylan was talking about the media
in terms of what you guys say, and he's also

(17:18):
talking about, you know, someone coming in and putting on
the show. Now, he may not turn that pot. I'm
not stirring the pot. I'm just telling you what it is.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Look at you. All he had to say was I'm
not gonna let the media come in. He didn't say that.
He didn't say that he had said something that he
didn't say say that.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Well, watch this, because that's what when he was like,
I'm talking about you guys, Oh that's the media. So
he could have been like, look, I'm just here to work,
going on hard, I'm doing my thing. I'm not gonna
let the media make something out of nothing. You know
what you sound like, but you sound like Shador. Here's
what Shador had to say about that.

Speaker 11 (17:57):
Honestly, I don't even think about nothing, and I don't
think about anything if it's not words or anything. You know,
at this point, can't do anything to me. You know,
I know you know that God put the ability, in
the power within me to not even think about nobody
else's comments, not care it is what it is. I
spoke with him. He said, nah, Bro, that wasn't he said.
That wasn't he told me on the plane. He came

(18:18):
up and he was like, nah, bro, that wasn't at you.
I see how they trying to spend I'm like, oh,
I I'm not tripping regardless of whatever it was, nobody's
words or anything affects me.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
Could you believed him on you?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Did?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
I believe him?

Speaker 11 (18:31):
I mean, I feel like you're trying to start stuff now.
I feel like you're trying to start stuff. I mean,
he's doing his job he's supposed to do. I feel
like he did. I don't know. And that's not on
me to sit here and be like, oh, he did,
he did it. That's not gonna change my life in
any way.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
All Right, A couple of things I want to say,
was he in the urinal or someone was in the
bathroom maybe what the hell was going on?

Speaker 5 (18:53):
What did I do?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I hope that I did see the video and don't
guys outside let me use give me a mix, give
me a couple of minutes. I don't know if he
was in the shower idea. Here's some some tinkling in
the background there, all right? First off, I called bluff
on one thing we should do. Shadure does see and hear.

(19:15):
He know what it is all the things that people say,
He know what it is. My man just cussed out
a reporter a week ago, not custom out, but confronted
him and say, hey, man, you ain't got nothing to
say nice to me.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I don't never do nothing wrong to you. Why you
an't never have anything positive to say about me?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I like the way he confronted him face to face,
questioned about some of his or his writings and the
things he had to say.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
I don't have a problem with it. But that's not
acting like you didn't see it, just like your dad.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Rob g who is the reporter big time reporter, for
got his name, baseball reporter is slipping me. Timm who
deon Sanders Prime poured the bucket of water him back
back in the day, rob g he ain't listened to
nothing to say. Deon Sanders poured the bucket of water
on till what's his name? The MLB reporter again, Edward, No,
it wasn't that water. MLB is back when he's a
baseball player.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Oh gosh, Tim looked.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
At up for me real quick. The point is them saying,
there's me knowing what's going on. They listen, they see
now they here now where. I do agree with him.
I don't think it overly phases him. I don't think
he goes into knows what it is, but he knows.
I think they're one of them. I think that Tim
mccarr knew was Tim Tim McCarver. I know they. I
think they take notes who said, okay, put that down

(20:22):
what he's okay, because Prime does that all the time.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Let me tell you some baby, that's my son. He
he does that. That's my son. That's my son. Let
me tell you something, baby, I would be blessed either way. Baby,
that's good. He does good. God is good. Either way.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
They talk about who said what, they know it, they
keep track of it. I do agree that they have
self believe that it won't matter or deture them but
they absolutely keep track. So let me, DoD just want
to knock that out the part stop it. Sure, you
just told the reporter to get you know, stop writing
on the negative and say something positive about you. You
just said that, But I do like his approach of
It doesn't matter whether he meant that for me or not.

(20:59):
I gotta play ball, and the way I play ball
and the way he play ball plays ball ultimately is
gonna determine all of this anyway.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
And so you know, when all the noise stops, it's
who's on the active roster opening week. That's what matters.
That's what matters. It's one position for two players. And

(21:25):
this last preseason game is going to come down.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Too.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
And you gotta remember one of the players the coaching
staff wanted, the other one not so much. And everything
out of Cleveland has been pro Shador Sanders. You don't
think Dylan Gabriel knows that and is affected by that,

(21:52):
of course, So sometimes you get to talking and then
you throw something out there and he'd be like, like
I said, two things can be true, but I think
it was a Freudian slip.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like it.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Whether they slipped or not, he said it, but I've
been saying, Thishraim, this is a mantra. Man, you got
rob Gi Alex. What is Ephraim's mantra? Everybody got choices?
You got a mantra. So all of a sudden they
hit you with something that blah blah blah blah. Ephraim,
you say everybody got choice you. We know that you've
been saying that. So but it could be perceived a

(22:27):
certain way if I asked you a certain question. But
that's actually something you go to. This is something that
Dylan Gabriel go to. He said this you seeing another
time he has this other time. This is something. This
is something he says. He's talking about us. So I
wanted to smoke. I wanted the drama. I think you
heard him. The smoke is there. Per you heard what

(22:49):
should do Or said? I don't know if he meant
it or not. It don't part right. There is where
it's gonna that gave. Dylan Gabriel heard that because it
was a chance for shad Or to go, man, you
know what you mean? Absolutely, I believe him. He looked
me in my eyes. The man told me that I
believe him. He had a chance to do that. He
didn't believe him though, So what I'm saying is that

(23:11):
right there, lets.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Me know and guess what and you know what.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
You know why that's important because he spends more time.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
With Dylan Gabriel than we do.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
What I mean, he spends every day, So there could
be micro things happening that ties all this together that
we have no idea about.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
That.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
That's why you gotta listen to the person involved, right
like we're trying to decipher what he meant and how
it happened. And now I'm gonna listen to the dude
who spends more time with him than I do.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
But see, he's in every meeting. So so what you're
doing is every critique. Now, what you're doing is you're
taking the one dude, not the other dude.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
No, no, no, no no, because.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Dylan Gabriel is the dude in this case who said
it and said no, that's not what I meant like that.
But it doesn't matter because the tension is already there
because they're both in the same draft class, both compete
for one position.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Yes, right on draft quarterbacks in the same draft, Well,
we'll do it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
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Speaker 7 (24:20):
Michael Parsons posted this thirty seven minutes ago, adduces emoji
and an image that says, even if I fall, I
will rise. The Lord is my light and that is it.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay, So let's dissect it, okay, Ephraim, let me if
you don't mind the Lord. First of all, I love
the Lord of loving the Lord is wrong.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
I don't want to be right. Let's start there.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
However, I'm so tired of the grown two hundred and
seventy five pound men tackling each other, macheesemo strong, dunking
on people, throwing seventy yard passes, hitting three home runs
in I'm so tired of the cryptic, the passive, aggressive,

(25:07):
the you should get what I meant. But if you don't,
then I guess you don't know, because if you it
was the if you know that, if you know you
know people put that at the end.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
I don't know what does that mean? Michael. I'm so
tired of it. I'd rather you say I'm out.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I want to be done with there's some cigarette something,
say peace I just got the official word. I'm getting traded.
Peace out. I'm gone pure. Put a jet on it.
Give me something. What did that do for me other
than frustrate me.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
It's a response to what Jerry said on the podcast.
Well at least Jerry said it with his chest. But
that's what I'm saying. Anytime Aside speaks out or says something,
then there's gonna be you should I knew a response
was coming.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
So I just I can't just I'm this is where
I know. And I've said this before talking to Rob g.
I'm a hybrid and that I'm I think I'm telling
you this. Ye're old enough to just we're from the
era where like if you're gonna say it, say it
with your jet, or if you're gonna say it, or
if you're not, you're not right. Everybody don't need to
know your business, You don't have to post everything. Some

(26:11):
things are better left onset. I'm from that era, but
I'm also young enough to get social media. I understand
it's prevalence, I understand how it's necessity, I understand it's usage.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Just some great things about it, like.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I don't feel like I have to go to social
media to say everything. I don't feel I have to
go to social media to reply to everything, and if
I do, I'm dank. Sure you're not gonna put cryptic
Lebron putting? Uh, what's the what's the cartoon Stewart Arthur's fist?
I don't know if that means Lebron?

Speaker 5 (26:40):
What does it mean?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Like? It just drives me crazy, this weird passive aggressive
I'm gonna say with an emoji, I'm not gonna say it,
but I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
But I'm not.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
If you got it, you got it. But if you didn't,
you did it? Like, dude, what are we doing?

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Aaron?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
If you know, you know? I don't.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
You know what I don't. I don't want to know.
I don't I don't want to know. I don't want
to know anymore. I don't want to know.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
I used to want to. I don't want to know anymore.
I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Do you know what I've been I've been playing around
on threads a little bit, thinking, oh, this is the
counter to X.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Now I'm over it. It's just it's the new X. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
I just don't spend a lot of time on social
media because uh, life is happening. Yeah, so I spent
a lot of time in reality dealing with like and look,
I don't want to disparage people who use social media
to create their reality, but mine was created prior to
social media, and I like that. I think that's why

(27:41):
you don't run to it all the time, because you
were able to start this journey without it.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
So a lot of podcasters.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
And a lot of people in media now started media
through social media, so it becomes part of their The
thing there lies the struggle. Michael Parsons wasn't alive prior
to real social media like that, Like, he grew up
with social media.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
I mean, he's what twenty six's. Facebook's probably been around
twenty years, so he grew up. He grew up with it.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
So when he was conscious and knew what it was,
his mom was probably on MySpace or Facebook or something
like that. So that's all he's known. He doesn't know
a world without it. So it's hard for this generation
to even imagine a world without social media. And so
for us it's easy because I'm like, I didn't have

(28:36):
it anyway, you know, to do it, being I became
successful without it. Now I can lend and add to
your success or you use it the right way. But
it becomes your sounding board. It becomes I have this
random thought that I would normally just keep to myself
or laugh about it in the room. It now it

(28:58):
goes out into the world. And because you know, anything
you put well, someone is gonna re you know, respond to.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
One way or the other.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Either way, right, And yeah, I tell And So this
is the conversation I have with Rob all the time
because I tell him they can the run before telephones.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Yeah, electricity, I tell him, here, ye hear ye oh,
come on, come on for the town news. Did you
just say the Pony Express? Stop it?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I tell him all the time, dude, because he can't
fathom how important it is to them.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
How many times Rob, do you have me? And Rob
argued about that?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I tell him, He'll say that social media post shouldn't
have affected that player. I say, dude, they all they've
ever known that that social media post from some writers
shouldn't have got the mat That's all they've known. Lebron
James is arguably the best player of all time. Second players,
whatever billionaire, he still gets offended or her jumps to
social media so much so that he had said announced

(30:02):
I'm gonna go zero doark thirty. I'm about to jump off. Hey,
I'm back in case anybody missed me. Hey, him back
off again. Like and Kevin Durant had a whole side personality.
And I don't even mind Kevin Durant instand it because
he actually admits it.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
I'm all in and out.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
He just goes and yeah, he got caught on It's
hard to not get admitted when you get caught Steph
Curry reading his mentions. This is Steph Curry, who's kind
of chilled, kind of quiet to an extent, reading his
mentions at halftime, So it blows.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
I always have to remind Rob what we're just talking about. Dude.
This is all they've known, And it's like the game.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Video game sims a lot of people, not necessarily them
because they're huge mega stars, but a lot of people
they feel the life they've created on social is better
than their real life. Of course, because I can be
whoever I want to project on there. My relationship is great.
If it's really not, I can project it. I had
a great day at work. I don't fear but I
know no anxiety, there's no anxiety. I can go. They

(30:57):
get home and they can unwind and jump into that world,
which unfortunately for a lot of people is sometimes better
than their real world.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Well that's a safe space, and that's what you altered
reality is. You can create your own world and be
it's the whole show. Is still a show on called
Catfish about people who do that very thing, People who
don't feel like they are good enough to represent themselves
in the real world, so they create the illusion of
something that they respond to and resonate with.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
Man Ty tale man
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