September 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate if the latest developments coming out of Cleveland prove that Shedeur Sanders just a starting-caliber NFL quarterback. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swings by to discuss how he believes the Browns should handle the Shedeur situation, and a slew of other NFL-related topics.
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coming up very shortly, Rob Gene, it was a story
that came out today or was it earlier today?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, about Chador Sanders. And this was interesting for all
the people who bought us Shador Sanders jerseys, Browns jerseys.
You mean Barry Sanders, Yeah, Barry Sanders, Chador Sanders. After
reading this story, I'm figuring that they could wear the
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jersey with their ball or big ball of bread.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Has never loss.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Those two go together now log At least apparently that's
what it sounded like for me.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, it's not looking good if you're a Shaduar Sanders
fan right now, because, as you guys know, it's been
well reported that he ended up being the QB three
in Cleveland right after they traded away Kenny Pickett. Dylan
Gabriel was instilled as the backup. Chadul was at number three,
which meant that they could prevent him from going to
the practice squad and getting claimed for another team. But
more than anything, the reason why you have a guy
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at your third string quarterback historically is so that he
can run your scout team.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
He's gonna get reps upon reps upon reps.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
It might not be your system, but he's getting live
reps in practice that he wouldn't ordinarily get as the backup. Well,
on Thursday, reporters in Cleveland notice that, hey, this week
they're preparing for the Baltimore Ravens and newcomer Bailey Zappy,
he's only been here about two weeks, is running the scout.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Team Bailey's and Queam Zappi.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
According to at least one reporter, Shador Sander did not
take a single rep in any team drill whatsoever. Well,
once that became a talking point, reporters asked Bill Musgrave
about it, and here's how he justified shadur not getting
scouteen reps.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Yeah, I'd say it's a little bit it's a little
bit different, and it's it's exciting because those guys do
take pride in getting the defense ready. They want to
do a good job of replicating the opponent's offense, and
at the same time they want to try to relate
any play that they get to our game. Plan for
that week too, so they can feel like they can
get a little double duty there.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
All right, there's the explanation. Does it make sense to you?
Because this none of it makes sense to me.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
But you know, I haven't really understood what they've been
doing since the beginning of this. I mean, I do, well,
would you like to go?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, I just they've they're telling you without telling you
that they don't view him as a starting quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I mean, what else could it be? If you really thought.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You had something, even a diamond in a rough why
wouldn't you give him some reps? They wouldn't give him
reps during the preseason right camp, they wouldn't give the
reps there with the first team. They didn't give him
reps during training camp. Like, like what, it doesn't make sense?
It does it hurt you to give somebody reps is
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at the end of the world. To give him some
first team reps with the first team? I don't understand it.
To hold on to a guy that obviously you don't
believe really is going to be a starting quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
See that's why I jump in and say, and I
totally get what you're saying, like, because just on the optics,
if you fail from Mars and I told you what
was happening, you'd be like, oh, they must not like
the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But what makes it strength? A few things make it strength?
For me?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Still round, like why won't they release them? And maybe
it's coming? Maybe you know two three, four weeks from
now he did?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Who knows?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
But maybe can I give you one reason?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You hold on to him and wait for somebody to
get hurt, like a quarterback or some situation, and then
he becomes a little more valuable.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
Well, you're making him unvaluable. Why you keep you keep
demoting him?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what I mean? And he's not this nolex third,
which wasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But there's always some one man's chicken is another man's gumbo.
I mean, like, you know what I'm saying, Like he's
still the unknown, right, but I holding onto that one
preseason game to dangle out there for.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You ignore the other one.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yes, uh So.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
One reason why I say that is I'm glad you
brought it up from an outside looking in everything we're
we hear he's supposed to be doing as far as
he's good in practice, we had the coach, come out,
Oh man keV Svanski, Oh he's he's just a great guy.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I love this kid.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
GM's come out or some other older Vets have come
out braved, right. But I'm saying, so check it might
even mad at that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Check.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
They've said that we saw him in the preseason game
when he actually had players who might be in the NFL.
He looked good, in fact, he looked really good. Then
we saw him with a bunch of guys who are
about to be working at All State Insurance in a minute,
and he looked bad, which a lot of guys might.
And so my thing has been he's done what he's
supposed to do to be in a position now. The
way things work, we know in the NFL, Dylan Gabriel
(06:17):
is our third round pick, and they're too close neck
and neck. We're going with our third round pick. So
I'm not even mad at that. Well, if you're neck
and neck, that's what they're But I'm saying, if you
really believe that he's better, I've given you plenty of examples.
You could skip over Dylan Gabriel. If Youdor's real, That's
what I'm saying. He would have had to been headed
up shoulders above him.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
He wasn't. Dylan Gabriel looked really good his game out
there in the preseason.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So if I picked you, I feel you're a little older,
maybe a little more mature, and you and you looked
good out there, then you're gonna get that spot. I'm
not even mad, but collectively, I just don't get what
that quarterback room is doing. Again, go back, you give
de Sean Watson all the money and all the baggage
to boom.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That is a word.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Then you go and draft for Kenny Piggins, which was like, okay,
that's your saying that. That meant I mean trade, I'm sorry,
trade for Kenny Pickens. You're like, that's the guy you're
going to get.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But what happened They got dead draft capital back because
a quarterback got injured, right, so now you had an
extra quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
And then they were like, whoa, all right, if we
have uh, if.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We're gonna go with flat oh and we got the
young guy whatever, Now we can get our fifth round
pick back, right, And Kenny Pickett was hurt.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
He didn't even play right, But you're speaking proactive like later,
I'm sorry. In real time, they got Kenny Picktt, like
that's our guy, Like that was the first guy. Then
once he got hurt and then he didn't play. But
I'm saying you brought him in as if that was
the answer. No, he was going to know that guy,
That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't answer, and if he
(07:52):
played enough, and when they saw him, they said, once
he gets back injury, we got our guys.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
He didn't play. He didn't play.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You know, I'm saying if he would have done enough
that they saw practice in the film. Once they decided
where they're going, which is to me, Joe Flacco, they're like,
we're not throwing the toweling on the season. Okay, coaches
and gms their future rides on the team as well.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
They had a bad year last year. The worst thing
they could do is put a rookie quarterback out there,
get their heads handed to them. Nobody wants to hear
about DeShawn Watson getting healthy and all that, and the
elephant in the room is that you see video of
de Seawan Watson moving around that and eventually he is
going to play with all the money they still owe him.
(08:35):
So that's why I think in reality they're they're doing
what they're doing, saying the Shawn's going to play and
maybe that's after Joe Flacco holds it down for this
year and they hold on to Shador until somebody comes knocking.
That's what I think, because I don't see us playing
for the Browns. It and I hear you because they
(08:58):
have so many quarterbacks. Now they got this other guy,
zippy Zippity does zippity a now is it?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
My old my, what a wonderful day. I mean, they.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Keeping your son.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Plenty of quarterbacks come from way Zippity dude.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
So they got blue bering. The whole sauce should in
some fast.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, what's that?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Could you find that?
Speaker 7 (09:24):
A well?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What is that?
Speaker 7 (09:25):
I guess that is a funky flashback Friday man. My
whole point is that cored that Brown's culture quarterback room.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
And I told you that anytime they think they're about
to do something, need to do the opposite because they
ain't had a quarterback since Bernie Czar.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's been a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Whatever they about, whatever you know we should do, actually.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Did want a playoffs and they know they did.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They got away from him, which is again what they
shouldn't have done.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
They blew it. They made a mistake.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
They stayed blowing it like it's birthday candle. They always
blowing them out. K K cake Cake, what is up
with you?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
What is this power one six? What is this real
ninety two three? What this hot ninety seven?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Whenever I hear cake I can't help.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
But because we know where you are when you hear
that song, mentally, yes, it puts you back into magic
city mode.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Which maybe that that what you need.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Get you cheered up, don't get fired.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You need you need three home runs in a in
a game from Aaron Aaron Judge, Rob, that would bring caution?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What was that? Got some new drops for you?
Speaker 10 (10:32):
Rob?
Speaker 9 (10:33):
Caution?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Who is that? Karen?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Don't worry about it? Your SII acting crazy?
Speaker 9 (10:38):
Don't get fired?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You want to hear my new favorite?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Kate?
Speaker 9 (10:40):
I here this sexist?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
What you say about the.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
W NBA row sexist?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
What Alex, did you watch the women's finals of the
US Open trying to sabotage my career? What is this
they're listening back at headquarters.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Of women in What about the United States Women's National team?
Speaker 9 (11:01):
Sexist?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
What about laundry night? At the w n B.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
A sexist, don't get fired.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Maybach music. Oh my gosh, you guys are nets Steven Brown's.
They're terrible. They don't know what they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I think they know exactly exactly what they're doing, which
is Chadors not in our plans. Will hold on to him.
Maybe some team will come calling and they have some
quarterback issue and they'll go, hey, you know Chador, Yeah,
let's let's give him a shot.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Hey, we'll give you this or that or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Just the idea that Bailey Zappi's getting more reps than him,
the Rogerie.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Do you know anything about it? Is he fast Bailey? No,
what I'm saying is he he might be faster than Shador.
I'm saying the Lamar Jackson. Yes, that's what I'm thinking.
He's just being meaning we go back to Shador. We
just need to be in general, he mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's a tip.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Well, this doesn't happen on other teams. Other teams do
not have multiple guys.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
And everybody, and everybody doesn't have Lamar Jackson. Dang it,
we gotta get ready for Lamar Jackson. Okay, Chadure Sanders
will play he's and they was.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Gonna say something. I don't want Alex hit to drop
on me. The new one, no, the old one.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Okay, I mean they already got a black quarterback, like
did you.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Push your door back there?
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Racist?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He is racist? Is racist. That's gotta be racist.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Shaudor is not the stereotypes and all black dudes are fast.
Not all black dudes are fast, okay, Rob, Sure door
ain't taken off.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
All right, let's get out of there, so we keep
our by the way. Fun fact, you know, Rob, you
know it's as a baseball fan.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
The reason why in Major League all the Wesley Stipe
see or him and slow motion because they said he
was really slow as a runner.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Really he ain't Tom Cruise, Nope, they said he was
extremely slow. So they if we played it in full
speed and he wouldn't looked good. Everything in slow motion,
so he looked like he look good and a white
man can't jump, but he wasn't running. It was just
he was lost. He was good in men can jump.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It was good in those movies, those sports.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But that is nice.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
He's I've underrated, like nineteen eighty eight to ninety six run.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh no, he did. He had to get a run.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But the irs thing I think right, and people don't.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
People do not like Nicholas Cage's been doing one hundred
movies a year, still trying to play off his taxes.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Ay, between him and Omar Amps, I think they got
the market corner on the best movie athletes of all time?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
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Your opinion of Chador Sanders changed since the draft?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
The thirty for thirty is gonna be crazy run?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Do you still think he's a starting quarterback in the NFL?
Because so many of the Chador fans were like, oh,
he's going to be starting by week three.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Oh, he's going to be the backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh they're going to pick him as a starter.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
All these people, where are you now?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
And Sean said that what are you doing was gonna
be starting. So I'm gonna rip on Sean. We're gonna
do that in about seven minutes or so. I don't
know what they free should do her? Let me get
a T shirt, Roddie, give me them free a lease.
People calling in, they're all shadour sympathizers. All right, Keith
in that in Tampa. You're on the ond couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Keith?
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Hey, what's up a couple?
Speaker 12 (16:05):
First of all, I just want to say off rip man,
first time caller. Appreciate y'all got kind y'all got kind
of famous. It's not that I haven't tried to call
him before, but it's hard to get you on the line.
Speaker 13 (16:17):
Y'all got so big, you know, it's hard to get
on the phone.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And we appreciate you.
Speaker 13 (16:22):
Man.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Don't forget you can get on YouTube and comment. I'm
glad you got all right what.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
You got for?
Speaker 10 (16:27):
Yes, sir? Now listen like okay, as Okay, there's three
black men on the phone here, and I don't want
to make anything about race, But when it comes to Shador,
you know, I'm just a per I'm a Bucks fan, y'all.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
I'm from Tampa.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
You know, I don't feel any other particular way about
Shador other than I admire Shador. And what I mean
by that is Schador showed success in every level he's
been in, from Jackson State and going to Colorado playing
with the one of the worst offensive lines in football,
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you know, and he's still you know, he's still produced
in college. Now, I want to introduce a dynamic that
I've never heard any journalists talk about, because you know,
I've heard of all the sports journalists talk about you
guys say this, and you guys say that, But I
never hear you guys saying that. The only people I
talk about that I hear talk about Shador in that
(17:28):
regard are the people like that have jobs in sports
because you guys have topics to sell. So now let's McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Okay, go gotta go, quicker. You gotta get get to
your point.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What's what's the.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
Last point I got you? The quarterback from Minnesota McCarthy. Right,
he was a first round draft pick. He did way
less in college. Granted he won a national.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Said right, stop you said, granted, Shad Door didn't even
have a winning record in college.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I mean, come on, like, you can't go like other.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Than him winning a national championship and all that, he
didn't do anything should do.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And see where he was going.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
But I will give you that JJ played in a
conference for two years where that's a heavy hitter.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You know this is coming from me who his coaching
start was to run the football. Doesn't mean he can't
throw the football. KD in Memphis, you're in the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? KD? KD there?
Speaker 13 (18:27):
Yeah, you hear me?
Speaker 12 (18:28):
Got that buddy, Yo, Hey man, I just want to
throw a couple of names out.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
I love y'all, by.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
The way, we get that out the way, appreciate.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Yeah, we're gonna say this.
Speaker 13 (18:37):
We're gonna say Will Levis, We're gonna say Johnny Manziel,
We're gonna throw in Josh Rosen, We're gonna I mean,
the list.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
Can go on of how many people got.
Speaker 13 (18:46):
More of a shot this your Door? Like we're basing
everything off the two preseason games the man.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And got a shot.
Speaker 13 (18:52):
He had one excellent game and one.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Bad game, like nothing, d KD. I don't go anywhere.
But none of those guys were a fifth round pick
that you just mentioned.
Speaker 13 (19:03):
Come on, ould have been the first or second?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
We said too, says you.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
That's where we disagree, Robbed, Yeah, listen to this.
Speaker 10 (19:14):
Josh Fields. Josh Field was tied to Trevor Lawrence. They
both went high.
Speaker 13 (19:18):
So you're telling me there is not a better prototype
than Josh Fields at the time.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Come on, man, you.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Mean Justin Are you talking about Justin Fields? Just?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about you keep saying like
he's supposed to be.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
A No, this is where I disagree. It got weird
out of the blue. All year, we're hearing first round,
first round.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Ok. Yes, sounds good.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
One of the better quarterback, all the people who do
this every year annually. He should be at top picked,
you know, one of the top quarterbacks. Then he just
drops to the fifth round. It's crazy, Rob, That's why
I said the thirty for thirty is gonna be crazy.
The man goes from Jackson State because he wanted to
go with his pops to one game only one in Colorado,
the sixth to the next year to nine, he got better.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I had the highest completion percentage in college. They want
from him.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And they had a losing right Jim Chili Tim in Atlanta,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim.
Speaker 14 (20:09):
Well, Rob Man, Rob, I'm about to stop. I'm about
to stop the chaduur love fast right here.
Speaker 12 (20:17):
Right now.
Speaker 14 (20:18):
First of all, he was throwing to the hives and
trophy winners, one of the best probably best college beat
players in the college last year.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So he got back and like Chili, but yeah, but
had to sept to win.
Speaker 14 (20:30):
He advent take the ball, Rob, I think you're right
in the point of I think they took a flyer
on him, and I think they evaluate him and they
realized and I think they turn they took a pivot
and once they realized that, well, you know what, this
guy's not who we thought. Right, let's shout at what
we can and see what the game plan was. Is
(20:51):
what you should do. Don't sit there and just sit
on it and let it go to waste. Make a plan.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
You made a.
Speaker 14 (20:56):
Bad choice, like with Joe Dumartin said that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
One time, yep, I talked about all the time. It
ain't about getting it ain't about being right. It's about
getting it right.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Chili in twenty seconds, answer this real quick. You're a
very smart guy. You know sports. Have you seen anything
like this? Were what you heard throughout his seat? You know,
his last year football going towards the draft, and didn't
dropped like that? Just that you, Chili, I ain't never seen.
I've never seen.
Speaker 13 (21:19):
Did you watch.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
He dropped in the first round? Still?
Speaker 14 (21:24):
I thought he was overrated kill. I didn't really think
he was as good as everybody.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
All those people out Jimmy Clawson dropped in the draft
to everybody thought he was going to be a hot
pick fifth round. Y'all.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
I'm not saying somebody people dropped that. People get dropped
every day. B Thank you, Chili, appreciate it. Do you
remember Aaron Rodgers sitting in the in the room.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There in the draft room twenty whatever. No, but I'm
saying he didn't believe that he should have been there.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He was.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It was embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I don't even think we talked about him nearly as
much as we talked about and all the hype and
on out and then he dropped to the fifth though,
make sense. Rop I'm not saying he was John Alway
prospect something something don't make you may never.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Get in a real NFL game. I'm starting to believe that.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
No, it's thirty two teams, Panthers exist, the ain'ts not
even the same. Remember that take, Alex put that down
just in case to say, do you remember what's the
name of through five? Nick Peterman or Nathan Peterman. There's
your hope Nathan Peterman got in a game.
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Sean King, former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst
Real Sean King on ex Sean, what up, broh.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
What's happening?
Speaker 14 (22:57):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (22:57):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Man?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Feeling good on this funcky flash back Friday? Man, I
hope everything's good with you? Do you want to finish
the you want put it?
Speaker 14 (23:06):
Just?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What do you make of Shador? I mean they even
given Bairey Zappi snaps uh right, squash yeah, scout team
snaps and Chador is not even getting that. What do
you make of that?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think you said he was going to be the starter?
You still feel that way?
Speaker 10 (23:26):
Well?
Speaker 13 (23:27):
I never said that, but I said uh on the
Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show that what the Browns should do
is after this week announced that they're going to alternate
starts between Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders the rest of
the year and allow both guys a fair opportunity over
fifteen games to get multiple starts, fail, succeed, learn, grow
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and figure out do they have their quarterback of the
future in the building.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But but Sean, Sean, let me let me just don't
you get in football? You win jobs in camp like
the idea? Why would you have to do that? And
if you put in Dylan Gabriel and he wins two
games in a row or plays well, why do you
have to let Shador play? Seriously, I don't. What you
just said doesn't make any sense to me, because if
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I picked Dylan as my backup, he goes in and
plays well for two or three weeks, I'm not going
to Shador. I'm playing the hot hand. I'm playing the
guy who earned the job, and I'm playing the guy
who's playing well. Why in the world would I go
to Shador after he plays well.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
Well. Elon Musk went to some investors and said, listen,
I've got this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I'm talking about football.
Speaker 13 (24:41):
No, listen what I'm saying. I got this business model
at revolve around electric vehicles. They don't need gas. You
know what they told him. They know what you're talking about.
So you are those group of investors. I'm Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, Ryan Clark, because when you played,
because when you played football, ain't no way you would
want to come out. If you played well as a
quarterback that got the opportunity as a backup. I don't
buy into it only for Shador Sanders. Do you want
to flip the script nowhere else? Show me another position,
(25:14):
Show me another circumstance where they did that because I
don't know one you tell me one.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
Well, first of all, thank you because you're the first
person that has ever called me without calling me a
shador apologist. I get killed in my mentions and dms
for people to think I hate Shador. So thank you
Rob for seeing the other side of this. Listen. Very
rarely has an NFL team ever drafted two quarterbacks in
the same draft. I think the last time, I remember
(25:42):
it was RG three, who was I think picked third,
and then they picked Kirk Cousins later. But even that
dynamic was different because of the investment in RG three
in this particular situation. First of all, for context, you're
talking about an organization that has not had a franchise
quarterback in forty years, so they need to do something
drastic different. So the only fair thing in my opinion,
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because I don't know, I haven't been there, I haven't
seen the tape. Obviously, you couldn't get as many reptions
as you wanted because Kenny Pickett was still involved in
the competition. Allow those guys just tell him listen, it
doesn't matter if you win or lose. We're gonna alternate
games with you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
At the start, you sound crazy. You got to coach,
You got to coach a general manager. Their jobs and
careers on the line. You got veteran players who are
gonna get there. Oh you're on and one. You're throwing
in the towel and you're gonna let rookies play. Sean,
I'm not buying it. You're not throwing in the towel
on the season, are you kidding?
Speaker 13 (26:38):
Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.
With the way that Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh offense looked,
with what we know Baltimore is, or we know what
Cincinnati is capable of, even though they didn't show it,
but they still beat the Browns, what's their ceiling if
they If Joe Flacco stays healthy, he's absolutely the best
option in twenty twenty five. If he stays healthy, what's
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their sealing from a record standpoint, They have.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
The Sean Watson for next year, who they owe a
lot of money. He's playing, He's playing that year.
Speaker 13 (27:10):
See this is where we disagree, because I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Say he doesn't play next year. If he's healthy, he
doesn't play.
Speaker 13 (27:16):
I don't think so. Not if Dylan not, if Dylan
or just prove to this evaluation that one of them
is capable of being the quarterback in the future. Think
about this. If the Sentransusco forty nine ers thought brock
Purty was worth the extension they just gave him, they'd
have never drafted him in the seventh round due the
(27:37):
circumstances that party couldn't control. He was thrust into the
starting position and he showed them I'm your franchise quarterback.
They may have a brock Party in Dylan Gabrael or
shandor Sanders. Here's my thing. What you're saying makes sense,
but it doesn't help elevate the organization moving forward. They
(27:58):
may have a brock Purty type of it's able to
be their franchise quarterback. How do you know that if
you don't play the guys this year?
Speaker 7 (28:06):
That was we got to move on. But I was
just that was my point when Rob and I were
talking about it, because knock getting you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know what he is. You know, Joe Flacco to
me is just a recycle. I don't need that.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Let me ask you this with sew Sean King, a
guest former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio, NFL An as
you know quarterback. You're the certified quarterback, whisper. Let's talk
Jordan Love. A lot of people with that up there.
A lot of people, UH don't like him. They love him.
Some people don't love him, they like him. Jordan Love
has been playing well and I think a part of
it is because he has a great defense right there
where he hasn't the first thing to turn the ball over.
What are you see from him two weeks with that offense.
(28:39):
We talk a lot about the defense, but they've been
putting up a lot of big plays too.
Speaker 13 (28:44):
Extremely impressed because he took a step back last year.
I thought his first year starting he sowed a lot
of potential. He was a grass save he threw the
ball down the field last year. Maybe he was injured.
I know he got injured in that initial game against
the Eagles. I think it was in Brazil, and he
never really look like what I thought he should have
looked like. He looks really good so far now. The
(29:05):
one thing that hurt Green Bay last year is injuries.
Christian Watson's out looks like a red is gonna be
out now with a broken collar, bowl or something. If
they can stay healthy and Jordan Love continues the progress man.
Green Bay looks like a legit Super Bowl contender. It's
only week two. I mean, it's only two games. I
don't want to jump, you know, and make a crazy prediction.
(29:27):
But to your question, Jordan Love looks much improved. He
looks confident, he's throwing the ball accurately, like he looks
like the real deal.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I saw a stat on ESPN. I'm gonna give ESPN
credit for it. This was interesting to me. And they
just talked about the Chiefs dynamics and just how they
don't get the ball downfield and whatnot. And it was
the worst completion percentage on throws of twenty five or
more yards. Okay, what game we just last year?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Last year?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Are you ready for this, Sean? The Browns had twenty
one point nine. Okay, this was worst percent completion percentage,
the worst, twenty one point nine. The Browns finished three
and fifteen, the Giants twenty one point nine, they finished
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three and fifteen, Kansas City Chiefs twenty two point nine,
and they finished fifteen and three. And that's why I
would say how lucky they were and all these things
go their way.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Can Patrick Mahomes get the ball downfield?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Is a.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is this a coaching thing? Is this a Patrick Mahomes thing?
Is this a wide receiver thing? Why are they only
completing twenty three percent of their passes downfield? You know
when that used to be his staple.
Speaker 13 (30:52):
Well, they haven't been fully healthy. You would think when
they're fully healthy, you have a Shea Rice. Theyve you're
worthy Travis Kelsey, which is a legitimate top three. They
haven't really had those guys healthy. At the same time,
where she writes, of course of the suspension, it's not health.
But thing about when those three are fully healthy was
she writes, is back and Hollywood Brown is your fourth option.
(31:14):
So the thing that I always remind people Tom Brady
never had a number one receiver. You're Randy Moss there.
Matt Castle was the quarterback for most of it. Like
the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are playing the same kind
of football. The Patriots and Tom Brady were playing Tom Brady.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
Randy Moss was ONNY quarterback the call twenty Tom Brady,
it was two.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Years that he was there. I think one was with Castle,
one was at Brady. My point being when Tyreek Hill
was on the Chiefs, they looked like an explosive offense. Right,
you take Tyreek Hill off, just like taking Randy Moss
away from New England. What those other Patriot offenses look like?
They were, Troy Brown, Kevin Faull, Dan Duncker, Amadola right, right,
So the Chiefs are very similar to that, and I
(32:05):
just think they got a weather the storm until Rashi
Rice gets off of suspension and is every word that
gets back healthy. But I know you like to do
Shuttle City. Yes, take everything you want, Take everything you
have remaining in the budget. Put it on the Chiefs
on Sunday. No way the Eagles going to Arrowhead and
beat Kansas City. I'm calling it. Patrick Mahomes reminds people
(32:26):
of his greatness. The Chiefs find a way to win
the game Sunday.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We gotta We're gonna bet wings for the next time
I come through Vegas.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
All right, real quick, we gotta Crawford. All right, all right,
well I know you what you got Crawford.
Speaker 13 (32:37):
Right, Oh absolutely, he may stop, stop, he may stop.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
All right, Okay, there we have it. Appreciate you as always, Sean,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
All right, fella's bet.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
All right, we're just talking about the Chiefs with Sean
right there, Uh grunk Gronkowski has something to say about
Pat Mahomes and Chiefs and I don't agree with him.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
We'll tell you what he said.
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shot up to. Sean King joined the show just moments ago.
Rob Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Now you come on, Rob g you jump in on
this too. You you know football. I never remember the
idea of alternating a quarterback if somebody got that's very collegiate,
very no.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Have you ever seen that in the NFL, Like not
in all my years.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's what I'm saying, Like that, that idea is just
not because if Dylan Gabriel plays and plays well, there
ain't no way they're gonna go, Okay, now we're gonna
let your door play the next game.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Even if he plays bad, they wouldn't be like, hey,
we gotta let this guy in there.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
It just wouldn't be like that.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, the bad part.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
That was the only part I didn't agree.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I just think you play it like to me, I've
been in favorite playing Dylan Gabriel or meaning the youth,
like find your guy.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Y'all know I'm big on that.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But even if you played your door, say they played
there and he plays well, you.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Wouldn't go we got our guy, because this might be
our Russell Wilson would go crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
If she was playing well game and then they said
the next game, Dylan Gabriel's playing right.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
I'm not mad at you with that, because look, you
might have your Russell Wilson, right, young guy that comes in,
you might have your Ben Roethlisberger, you know, come in
and be able to get the job done right then
and there.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
So yeah, on a collegiate level, we've seen that.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
We've seen that in college, different drives, right, Sometimes of
the same drive, quarterback just comes running in.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're like, oh, okay, who was it with the Cowboys?
Was it Craig Morton? And they did?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
The Cowboys did that, had two quarterbacks. I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
The Bills did that a little bit with Fluty and
Rob Johnson, and then the Steelers did that.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
With Quardou Cordelle. Steward did a lot, but was justackages.
His was, yeah, we're about to you never know, we're
gonna pass, We're gonna run. Yeah, and you know that
the Saints Hill Taysom Hill, Taysom Hill does it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Comes in, my pass might run Mike, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
So, yeah, that was a surprising thing for Shawn to say,
Becausehawn knows ballin.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
We've had him on.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
We get him on on purpose because he knows what
he's talking about. And this is not him specifically, but
more to the shadu Or conversation. The mental gymnastics that
people are going through to give this guy an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That doesn't make sense is crazy to me.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
The only reason why is because again I can't think
of and you both are gay, and you.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And a YouTube chat you and the phone lines, tweet whatever.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I just can't think of something where rob g I
set up here with you a whole year we would
have some times a conversation pop off and duringout the
college season, and it was kind of a hey man,
they got two top should be first from first round
pick guys and Travison and him, and then all of
a sudden it was cam Ward and him. They're practicing together.
(36:20):
Was gonna be the problem? We could be the two
first two first three quarterbacks taking off the board. It
just kind of was an out through out of the blue.
It just changed and then again demotion and stuff. But
we're not hearing anything. So it makes people like, well,
what are we like? Is there something going on? We
heard about Caleb Williams true, untrue, but we've heard things.
We've heard things about other guys. We've heard things about
(36:41):
JaMarcus Russell. You know, any things come out where you're like, oh,
I heard this, Kyler Murray. They had to put provisions
in his call of duty too much call of duty
things come out, So that's what may also makes it weird.
It's like he dropped, but we ain't really heard it,
and then things look like he's doing everything's supposed to
do with the Browns and he keeps dropping. So that's
only that's why people are like, this is just a
(37:01):
strange occurrence.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Is it something as simple as during this whole draft
process that the guys who were the forward facing members
of the media say, hey, I'm talking to scouts, I'm
talking to gms. He's the one, him and cam Ward,
the guys were they just wrong? And that's what it
is that we were just let it straight bamboozled.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think land on Us, I think you're right. I
really do. I think that they were wrong. And that's why,
like a male, Kuiper was so angry, like like he
would like why but that's but you can't be that
angry something like he was, like it was person that
was guy right, Like what what you so that.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
They don't know anything about quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The league doesn't know anything about like everybody, every scout
but every GM.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
But that leads to why what if I told you
when it happens? Because Mail is like I've been doing
this with y'all for thirty five years and he's been
wrong a lot too, but he's he've been wrong in
a sense of I thought he was a top five pick.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
He dropped a twenty three. No he's not.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
I've been hearing this guy's the first round pick and
he's fifth round and a couple of quarterbacks we we
kind of heard maybe that are ahead of him. That's
why he lost his mind and lost all the slit
slick pat Riley in his hair.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Hey, let me say this real quick, and then you
tell what Gronk said, gran telling him what Gronk said
now and no, no, no, just so, could you just
teased it? Tom Landry did it in nineteen seventy one,
Craig more than Roger Staubach. They split quarterback duties and
then they ultimately picked up Roger Staubach and won to Well.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Good choice. Yeah, I said that worked out for him.
So yeah, Sean King got it right.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
He just was like sixty five seventy years later when
they don't really do that anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
And Gronk talks about punching the chiefs in the face.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Yeah, that's what he was saying, punching the chiefs drinking
beer party and something like that.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay, yeah, don't worry about it. We'll have another talking
about this coming up. I guess all Number three already
got late.
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(01:35):
coming up very shortly, Rob Gene, it was a story
that came out today or was it earlier today?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, about Chador Sanders. And this was interesting for all
the people who bought us Shador Sanders jerseys, Browns jerseys.
You mean Barry Sanders, Yeah, Barry Sanders, Chador Sanders. After
reading this story, I'm figuring that they could wear the
(02:04):
jersey with their ball or big ball of bread.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Has never loss.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Those two go together now log At least apparently that's
what it sounded like for me.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, it's not looking good if you're a Shaduar Sanders
fan right now, because, as you guys know, it's been
well reported that he ended up being the QB three
in Cleveland right after they traded away Kenny Pickett. Dylan
Gabriel was instilled as the backup. Chadul was at number three,
which meant that they could prevent him from going to
the practice squad and getting claimed for another team. But
more than anything, the reason why you have a guy
(02:38):
at your third string quarterback historically is so that he
can run your scout team.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
He's gonna get reps upon reps upon reps.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
It might not be your system, but he's getting live
reps in practice that he wouldn't ordinarily get as the backup. Well,
on Thursday, reporters in Cleveland notice that, hey, this week
they're preparing for the Baltimore Ravens and newcomer Bailey Zappy,
he's only been here about two weeks, is running the scout.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Team Bailey's and Queam Zappi.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
According to at least one reporter, Shador Sander did not
take a single rep in any team drill whatsoever. Well,
once that became a talking point, reporters asked Bill Musgrave
about it, and here's how he justified shadur not getting
scouteen reps.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Yeah, I'd say it's a little bit it's a little
bit different, and it's it's exciting because those guys do
take pride in getting the defense ready. They want to
do a good job of replicating the opponent's offense, and
at the same time they want to try to relate
any play that they get to our game. Plan for
that week too, so they can feel like they can
get a little double duty there.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
All right, there's the explanation. Does it make sense to you?
Because this none of it makes sense to me.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
But you know, I haven't really understood what they've been
doing since the beginning of this. I mean, I do, well,
would you like to go?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, I just they've they're telling you without telling you
that they don't view him as a starting quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I mean, what else could it be? If you really thought.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You had something, even a diamond in a rough why
wouldn't you give him some reps? They wouldn't give him
reps during the preseason right camp, they wouldn't give the
reps there with the first team. They didn't give him
reps during training camp. Like, like what, it doesn't make sense?
It does it hurt you to give somebody reps is
(04:30):
at the end of the world. To give him some
first team reps with the first team? I don't understand it.
To hold on to a guy that obviously you don't
believe really is going to be a starting quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
See that's why I jump in and say, and I
totally get what you're saying, like, because just on the optics,
if you fail from Mars and I told you what
was happening, you'd be like, oh, they must not like
the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
But what makes it strength? A few things make it strength?
For me?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Still round, like why won't they release them? And maybe
it's coming? Maybe you know two three, four weeks from
now he did?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Who knows?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
But maybe can I give you one reason?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
You hold on to him and wait for somebody to
get hurt, like a quarterback or some situation, and then
he becomes a little more valuable.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
Well, you're making him unvaluable. Why you keep you keep
demoting him?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what I mean? And he's not this nolex third,
which wasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But there's always some one man's chicken is another man's gumbo.
I mean, like, you know what I'm saying, Like he's
still the unknown, right, but I holding onto that one
preseason game to dangle out there for.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
You ignore the other one.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yes, uh So.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
One reason why I say that is I'm glad you
brought it up from an outside looking in everything we're
we hear he's supposed to be doing as far as
he's good in practice, we had the coach, come out,
Oh man keV Svanski, Oh he's he's just a great guy.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I love this kid.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
GM's come out or some other older Vets have come
out braved, right. But I'm saying, so check it might
even mad at that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Check.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
They've said that we saw him in the preseason game
when he actually had players who might be in the NFL.
He looked good, in fact, he looked really good. Then
we saw him with a bunch of guys who are
about to be working at All State Insurance in a minute,
and he looked bad, which a lot of guys might.
And so my thing has been he's done what he's
supposed to do to be in a position now. The
way things work, we know in the NFL, Dylan Gabriel
(06:17):
is our third round pick, and they're too close neck
and neck. We're going with our third round pick. So
I'm not even mad at that. Well, if you're neck
and neck, that's what they're But I'm saying, if you
really believe that he's better, I've given you plenty of examples.
You could skip over Dylan Gabriel. If Youdor's real, That's
what I'm saying. He would have had to been headed
up shoulders above him.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
He wasn't. Dylan Gabriel looked really good his game out
there in the preseason.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So if I picked you, I feel you're a little older,
maybe a little more mature, and you and you looked
good out there, then you're gonna get that spot. I'm
not even mad, but collectively, I just don't get what
that quarterback room is doing. Again, go back, you give
de Sean Watson all the money and all the baggage
to boom.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That is a word.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Then you go and draft for Kenny Piggins, which was like, okay,
that's your saying that. That meant I mean trade, I'm sorry,
trade for Kenny Pickens. You're like, that's the guy you're
going to get.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But what happened They got dead draft capital back because
a quarterback got injured, right, so now you had an
extra quarterback.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
And then they were like, whoa, all right, if we
have uh, if.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We're gonna go with flat oh and we got the
young guy whatever, Now we can get our fifth round
pick back, right, And Kenny Pickett was hurt.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
He didn't even play right, But you're speaking proactive like later,
I'm sorry. In real time, they got Kenny Picktt, like
that's our guy, Like that was the first guy. Then
once he got hurt and then he didn't play. But
I'm saying you brought him in as if that was
the answer. No, he was going to know that guy,
That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't answer, and if he
(07:52):
played enough, and when they saw him, they said, once
he gets back injury, we got our guys.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
He didn't play. He didn't play.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You know, I'm saying if he would have done enough
that they saw practice in the film. Once they decided
where they're going, which is to me, Joe Flacco, they're like,
we're not throwing the toweling on the season. Okay, coaches
and gms their future rides on the team as well.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
They had a bad year last year. The worst thing
they could do is put a rookie quarterback out there,
get their heads handed to them. Nobody wants to hear
about DeShawn Watson getting healthy and all that, and the
elephant in the room is that you see video of
de Seawan Watson moving around that and eventually he is
going to play with all the money they still owe him.
(08:35):
So that's why I think in reality they're they're doing
what they're doing, saying the Shawn's going to play and
maybe that's after Joe Flacco holds it down for this
year and they hold on to Shador until somebody comes knocking.
That's what I think, because I don't see us playing
for the Browns. It and I hear you because they
(08:58):
have so many quarterbacks. Now they got this other guy,
zippy Zippity does zippity a now is it?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
My old my, what a wonderful day. I mean, they.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Keeping your son.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Plenty of quarterbacks come from way Zippity dude.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
So they got blue bering. The whole sauce should in
some fast.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, what's that?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Could you find that?
Speaker 7 (09:24):
A well?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
What is that?
Speaker 7 (09:25):
I guess that is a funky flashback Friday man. My
whole point is that cored that Brown's culture quarterback room.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
And I told you that anytime they think they're about
to do something, need to do the opposite because they
ain't had a quarterback since Bernie Czar.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's been a long time.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Whatever they about, whatever you know we should do, actually.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Did want a playoffs and they know they did.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
They got away from him, which is again what they
shouldn't have done.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
They blew it. They made a mistake.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
They stayed blowing it like it's birthday candle. They always
blowing them out. K K cake Cake, what is up
with you?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
What is this power one six? What is this real
ninety two three? What this hot ninety seven?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Whenever I hear cake I can't help.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
But because we know where you are when you hear
that song, mentally, yes, it puts you back into magic
city mode.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Which maybe that that what you need.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Get you cheered up, don't get fired.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You need you need three home runs in a in
a game from Aaron Aaron Judge, Rob, that would bring caution?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What was that? Got some new drops for you?
Speaker 10 (10:32):
Rob?
Speaker 9 (10:33):
Caution?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Who is that? Karen?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Don't worry about it? Your SII acting crazy?
Speaker 9 (10:38):
Don't get fired?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You want to hear my new favorite?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Kate?
Speaker 9 (10:40):
I here this sexist?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
What you say about the.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
W NBA row sexist?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
What Alex, did you watch the women's finals of the
US Open trying to sabotage my career? What is this
they're listening back at headquarters.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Of women in What about the United States Women's National team?
Speaker 9 (11:01):
Sexist?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
What about laundry night? At the w n B.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
A sexist, don't get fired.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Maybach music. Oh my gosh, you guys are nets Steven Brown's.
They're terrible. They don't know what they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I think they know exactly exactly what they're doing, which
is Chadors not in our plans. Will hold on to him.
Maybe some team will come calling and they have some
quarterback issue and they'll go, hey, you know Chador, Yeah,
let's let's give him a shot.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Hey, we'll give you this or that or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Just the idea that Bailey Zappi's getting more reps than him,
the Rogerie.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Do you know anything about it? Is he fast Bailey? No,
what I'm saying is he he might be faster than Shador.
I'm saying the Lamar Jackson. Yes, that's what I'm thinking.
He's just being meaning we go back to Shador. We
just need to be in general, he mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's a tip.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Well, this doesn't happen on other teams. Other teams do
not have multiple guys.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
And everybody, and everybody doesn't have Lamar Jackson. Dang it,
we gotta get ready for Lamar Jackson. Okay, Chadure Sanders
will play he's and they was.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Gonna say something. I don't want Alex hit to drop
on me. The new one, no, the old one.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Okay, I mean they already got a black quarterback, like
did you.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Push your door back there?
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Racist?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
He is racist? Is racist. That's gotta be racist.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Shaudor is not the stereotypes and all black dudes are fast.
Not all black dudes are fast, okay, Rob, Sure door
ain't taken off.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
All right, let's get out of there, so we keep
our by the way. Fun fact, you know, Rob, you
know it's as a baseball fan.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
The reason why in Major League all the Wesley Stipe
see or him and slow motion because they said he
was really slow as a runner.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Really he ain't Tom Cruise, Nope, they said he was
extremely slow. So they if we played it in full
speed and he wouldn't looked good. Everything in slow motion,
so he looked like he look good and a white
man can't jump, but he wasn't running. It was just
he was lost. He was good in men can jump.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It was good in those movies, those sports.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But that is nice.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
He's I've underrated, like nineteen eighty eight to ninety six run.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh no, he did. He had to get a run.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But the irs thing I think right, and people don't.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
People do not like Nicholas Cage's been doing one hundred
movies a year, still trying to play off his taxes.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Ay, between him and Omar Amps, I think they got
the market corner on the best movie athletes of all time?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yes, all right? Eight seven there for ninety nine on
Fox seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Your opinion of Chador Sanders changed since the draft?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
The thirty for thirty is gonna be crazy run?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Do you still think he's a starting quarterback in the NFL?
Because so many of the Chador fans were like, oh,
he's going to be starting by week three.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Oh, he's going to be the backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh they're going to pick him as a starter.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
All these people, where are you now?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
And Sean said that what are you doing was gonna
be starting. So I'm gonna rip on Sean. We're gonna
do that in about seven minutes or so. I don't
know what they free should do her? Let me get
a T shirt, Roddie, give me them free a lease.
People calling in, they're all shadour sympathizers. All right, Keith
in that in Tampa. You're on the ond couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Keith?
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Hey, what's up a couple?
Speaker 12 (16:05):
First of all, I just want to say off rip man,
first time caller. Appreciate y'all got kind y'all got kind
of famous. It's not that I haven't tried to call
him before, but it's hard to get you on the line.
Speaker 13 (16:17):
Y'all got so big, you know, it's hard to get
on the phone.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And we appreciate you.
Speaker 13 (16:22):
Man.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Don't forget you can get on YouTube and comment. I'm
glad you got all right what.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
You got for?
Speaker 10 (16:27):
Yes, sir? Now listen like okay, as Okay, there's three
black men on the phone here, and I don't want
to make anything about race, But when it comes to Shador,
you know, I'm just a per I'm a Bucks fan, y'all.
Speaker 13 (16:42):
I'm from Tampa.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
You know, I don't feel any other particular way about
Shador other than I admire Shador. And what I mean
by that is Schador showed success in every level he's
been in, from Jackson State and going to Colorado playing
with the one of the worst offensive lines in football,
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you know, and he's still you know, he's still produced
in college. Now, I want to introduce a dynamic that
I've never heard any journalists talk about, because you know,
I've heard of all the sports journalists talk about you
guys say this, and you guys say that, But I
never hear you guys saying that. The only people I
talk about that I hear talk about Shador in that
(17:28):
regard are the people like that have jobs in sports
because you guys have topics to sell. So now let's McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Okay, go gotta go, quicker. You gotta get get to
your point.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What's what's the.
Speaker 10 (17:42):
Last point I got you? The quarterback from Minnesota McCarthy. Right,
he was a first round draft pick. He did way
less in college. Granted he won a national.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Said right, stop you said, granted, Shad Door didn't even
have a winning record in college.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
I mean, come on, like, you can't go like other.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Than him winning a national championship and all that, he
didn't do anything should do.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And see where he was going.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
But I will give you that JJ played in a
conference for two years where that's a heavy hitter.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You know this is coming from me who his coaching
start was to run the football. Doesn't mean he can't
throw the football. KD in Memphis, you're in the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? KD? KD there?
Speaker 13 (18:27):
Yeah, you hear me?
Speaker 12 (18:28):
Got that buddy, Yo, Hey man, I just want to
throw a couple of names out.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
I love y'all, by.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
The way, we get that out the way, appreciate.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
Yeah, we're gonna say this.
Speaker 13 (18:37):
We're gonna say Will Levis, We're gonna say Johnny Manziel,
We're gonna throw in Josh Rosen, We're gonna I mean,
the list.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
Can go on of how many people got.
Speaker 13 (18:46):
More of a shot this your Door? Like we're basing
everything off the two preseason games the man.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And got a shot.
Speaker 13 (18:52):
He had one excellent game and one.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Bad game, like nothing, d KD. I don't go anywhere.
But none of those guys were a fifth round pick
that you just mentioned.
Speaker 13 (19:03):
Come on, ould have been the first or second?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
We said too, says you.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
That's where we disagree, Robbed, Yeah, listen to this.
Speaker 10 (19:14):
Josh Fields. Josh Field was tied to Trevor Lawrence. They
both went high.
Speaker 13 (19:18):
So you're telling me there is not a better prototype
than Josh Fields at the time.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
Come on, man, you.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Mean Justin Are you talking about Justin Fields? Just?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm just talking about you keep saying like
he's supposed to be.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
A No, this is where I disagree. It got weird
out of the blue. All year, we're hearing first round,
first round.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Ok. Yes, sounds good.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
One of the better quarterback, all the people who do
this every year annually. He should be at top picked,
you know, one of the top quarterbacks. Then he just
drops to the fifth round. It's crazy, Rob, That's why
I said the thirty for thirty is gonna be crazy.
The man goes from Jackson State because he wanted to
go with his pops to one game only one in Colorado,
the sixth to the next year to nine, he got better.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I had the highest completion percentage in college. They want
from him.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And they had a losing right Jim Chili Tim in Atlanta,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim.
Speaker 14 (20:09):
Well, Rob Man, Rob, I'm about to stop. I'm about
to stop the chaduur love fast right here.
Speaker 12 (20:17):
Right now.
Speaker 14 (20:18):
First of all, he was throwing to the hives and
trophy winners, one of the best probably best college beat
players in the college last year.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
So he got back and like Chili, but yeah, but
had to sept to win.
Speaker 14 (20:30):
He advent take the ball, Rob, I think you're right
in the point of I think they took a flyer
on him, and I think they evaluate him and they
realized and I think they turn they took a pivot
and once they realized that, well, you know what, this
guy's not who we thought. Right, let's shout at what
we can and see what the game plan was. Is
(20:51):
what you should do. Don't sit there and just sit
on it and let it go to waste. Make a plan.
Speaker 13 (20:55):
You made a.
Speaker 14 (20:56):
Bad choice, like with Joe Dumartin said that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
One time, yep, I talked about all the time. It
ain't about getting it ain't about being right. It's about
getting it right.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Chili in twenty seconds, answer this real quick. You're a
very smart guy. You know sports. Have you seen anything
like this? Were what you heard throughout his seat? You know,
his last year football going towards the draft, and didn't
dropped like that? Just that you, Chili, I ain't never seen.
I've never seen.
Speaker 13 (21:19):
Did you watch.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
He dropped in the first round? Still?
Speaker 14 (21:24):
I thought he was overrated kill. I didn't really think
he was as good as everybody.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
All those people out Jimmy Clawson dropped in the draft
to everybody thought he was going to be a hot
pick fifth round. Y'all.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
I'm not saying somebody people dropped that. People get dropped
every day. B Thank you, Chili, appreciate it. Do you
remember Aaron Rodgers sitting in the in the room.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
There in the draft room twenty whatever. No, but I'm
saying he didn't believe that he should have been there.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He was.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It was embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I don't even think we talked about him nearly as
much as we talked about and all the hype and
on out and then he dropped to the fifth though,
make sense. Rop I'm not saying he was John Alway
prospect something something don't make you may never.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Get in a real NFL game. I'm starting to believe that.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
No, it's thirty two teams, Panthers exist, the ain'ts not
even the same. Remember that take, Alex put that down
just in case to say, do you remember what's the
name of through five? Nick Peterman or Nathan Peterman. There's
your hope Nathan Peterman got in a game.
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Speaker 1 (22:55):
What's happening?
Speaker 14 (22:57):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (22:57):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Man?
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Feeling good on this funcky flash back Friday? Man, I
hope everything's good with you? Do you want to finish
the you want put it?
Speaker 14 (23:06):
Just?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What do you make of Shador? I mean they even
given Bairey Zappi snaps uh right, squash yeah, scout team
snaps and Chador is not even getting that. What do
you make of that?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think you said he was going to be the starter?
You still feel that way?
Speaker 10 (23:26):
Well?
Speaker 13 (23:27):
I never said that, but I said uh on the
Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show that what the Browns should do
is after this week announced that they're going to alternate
starts between Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders the rest of
the year and allow both guys a fair opportunity over
fifteen games to get multiple starts, fail, succeed, learn, grow
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and figure out do they have their quarterback of the
future in the building.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But but Sean, Sean, let me let me just don't
you get in football? You win jobs in camp like
the idea? Why would you have to do that? And
if you put in Dylan Gabriel and he wins two
games in a row or plays well, why do you
have to let Shador play? Seriously, I don't. What you
just said doesn't make any sense to me, because if
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I picked Dylan as my backup, he goes in and
plays well for two or three weeks, I'm not going
to Shador. I'm playing the hot hand. I'm playing the
guy who earned the job, and I'm playing the guy
who's playing well. Why in the world would I go
to Shador after he plays well.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
Well. Elon Musk went to some investors and said, listen,
I've got this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I'm talking about football.
Speaker 13 (24:41):
No, listen what I'm saying. I got this business model
at revolve around electric vehicles. They don't need gas. You
know what they told him. They know what you're talking about.
So you are those group of investors. I'm Elon Musk.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, Ryan Clark, because when you played,
because when you played football, ain't no way you would
want to come out. If you played well as a
quarterback that got the opportunity as a backup. I don't
buy into it only for Shador Sanders. Do you want
to flip the script nowhere else? Show me another position,
(25:14):
Show me another circumstance where they did that because I
don't know one you tell me one.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
Well, first of all, thank you because you're the first
person that has ever called me without calling me a
shador apologist. I get killed in my mentions and dms
for people to think I hate Shador. So thank you
Rob for seeing the other side of this. Listen. Very
rarely has an NFL team ever drafted two quarterbacks in
the same draft. I think the last time, I remember
(25:42):
it was RG three, who was I think picked third,
and then they picked Kirk Cousins later. But even that
dynamic was different because of the investment in RG three
in this particular situation. First of all, for context, you're
talking about an organization that has not had a franchise
quarterback in forty years, so they need to do something
drastic different. So the only fair thing in my opinion,
(26:05):
because I don't know, I haven't been there, I haven't
seen the tape. Obviously, you couldn't get as many reptions
as you wanted because Kenny Pickett was still involved in
the competition. Allow those guys just tell him listen, it
doesn't matter if you win or lose. We're gonna alternate
games with you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
At the start, you sound crazy. You got to coach,
You got to coach a general manager. Their jobs and
careers on the line. You got veteran players who are
gonna get there. Oh you're on and one. You're throwing
in the towel and you're gonna let rookies play. Sean,
I'm not buying it. You're not throwing in the towel
on the season, are you kidding?
Speaker 13 (26:38):
Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.
With the way that Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh offense looked,
with what we know Baltimore is, or we know what
Cincinnati is capable of, even though they didn't show it,
but they still beat the Browns, what's their ceiling if
they If Joe Flacco stays healthy, he's absolutely the best
option in twenty twenty five. If he stays healthy, what's
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their sealing from a record standpoint, They have.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
The Sean Watson for next year, who they owe a
lot of money. He's playing, He's playing that year.
Speaker 13 (27:10):
See this is where we disagree, because I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Say he doesn't play next year. If he's healthy, he
doesn't play.
Speaker 13 (27:16):
I don't think so. Not if Dylan not, if Dylan
or just prove to this evaluation that one of them
is capable of being the quarterback in the future. Think
about this. If the Sentransusco forty nine ers thought brock
Purty was worth the extension they just gave him, they'd
have never drafted him in the seventh round due the
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circumstances that party couldn't control. He was thrust into the
starting position and he showed them I'm your franchise quarterback.
They may have a brock Party in Dylan Gabrael or
shandor Sanders. Here's my thing. What you're saying makes sense,
but it doesn't help elevate the organization moving forward. They
(27:58):
may have a brock Purty type of it's able to
be their franchise quarterback. How do you know that if
you don't play the guys this year?
Speaker 7 (28:06):
That was we got to move on. But I was
just that was my point when Rob and I were
talking about it, because knock getting you anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You know what he is. You know, Joe Flacco to
me is just a recycle. I don't need that.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Let me ask you this with sew Sean King, a
guest former NFL quarterback, Fox Sports Radio, NFL An as
you know quarterback. You're the certified quarterback, whisper. Let's talk
Jordan Love. A lot of people with that up there.
A lot of people, UH don't like him. They love him.
Some people don't love him, they like him. Jordan Love
has been playing well and I think a part of
it is because he has a great defense right there
where he hasn't the first thing to turn the ball over.
What are you see from him two weeks with that offense.
(28:39):
We talk a lot about the defense, but they've been
putting up a lot of big plays too.
Speaker 13 (28:44):
Extremely impressed because he took a step back last year.
I thought his first year starting he sowed a lot
of potential. He was a grass save he threw the
ball down the field last year. Maybe he was injured.
I know he got injured in that initial game against
the Eagles. I think it was in Brazil, and he
never really look like what I thought he should have
looked like. He looks really good so far now. The
(29:05):
one thing that hurt Green Bay last year is injuries.
Christian Watson's out looks like a red is gonna be
out now with a broken collar, bowl or something. If
they can stay healthy and Jordan Love continues the progress man.
Green Bay looks like a legit Super Bowl contender. It's
only week two. I mean, it's only two games. I
don't want to jump, you know, and make a crazy prediction.
(29:27):
But to your question, Jordan Love looks much improved. He
looks confident, he's throwing the ball accurately, like he looks
like the real deal.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I saw a stat on ESPN. I'm gonna give ESPN
credit for it. This was interesting to me. And they
just talked about the Chiefs dynamics and just how they
don't get the ball downfield and whatnot. And it was
the worst completion percentage on throws of twenty five or
more yards. Okay, what game we just last year?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Last year?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Are you ready for this, Sean? The Browns had twenty
one point nine. Okay, this was worst percent completion percentage,
the worst, twenty one point nine. The Browns finished three
and fifteen, the Giants twenty one point nine, they finished
(30:21):
three and fifteen, Kansas City Chiefs twenty two point nine,
and they finished fifteen and three. And that's why I
would say how lucky they were and all these things
go their way.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Can Patrick Mahomes get the ball downfield?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Is a.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Is this a coaching thing? Is this a Patrick Mahomes thing?
Is this a wide receiver thing? Why are they only
completing twenty three percent of their passes downfield? You know
when that used to be his staple.
Speaker 13 (30:52):
Well, they haven't been fully healthy. You would think when
they're fully healthy, you have a Shea Rice. Theyve you're
worthy Travis Kelsey, which is a legitimate top three. They
haven't really had those guys healthy. At the same time,
where she writes, of course of the suspension, it's not health.
But thing about when those three are fully healthy was
she writes, is back and Hollywood Brown is your fourth option.
(31:14):
So the thing that I always remind people Tom Brady
never had a number one receiver. You're Randy Moss there.
Matt Castle was the quarterback for most of it. Like
the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes are playing the same kind
of football. The Patriots and Tom Brady were playing Tom Brady.
Speaker 15 (31:31):
Randy Moss was ONNY quarterback the call twenty Tom Brady,
it was two.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
Years that he was there. I think one was with Castle,
one was at Brady. My point being when Tyreek Hill
was on the Chiefs, they looked like an explosive offense. Right,
you take Tyreek Hill off, just like taking Randy Moss
away from New England. What those other Patriot offenses look like?
They were, Troy Brown, Kevin Faull, Dan Duncker, Amadola right, right,
So the Chiefs are very similar to that, and I
(32:05):
just think they got a weather the storm until Rashi
Rice gets off of suspension and is every word that
gets back healthy. But I know you like to do
Shuttle City. Yes, take everything you want, Take everything you
have remaining in the budget. Put it on the Chiefs
on Sunday. No way the Eagles going to Arrowhead and
beat Kansas City. I'm calling it. Patrick Mahomes reminds people
(32:26):
of his greatness. The Chiefs find a way to win
the game Sunday.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We gotta We're gonna bet wings for the next time
I come through Vegas.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
All right, real quick, we gotta Crawford. All right, all right,
well I know you what you got Crawford.
Speaker 13 (32:37):
Right, Oh absolutely, he may stop, stop, he may stop.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh wow.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
All right, Okay, there we have it. Appreciate you as always, Sean,
Thank you so much.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
All right, fella's bet.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
All right, we're just talking about the Chiefs with Sean
right there, Uh grunk Gronkowski has something to say about
Pat Mahomes and Chiefs and I don't agree with him.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
We'll tell you what he said.
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shot up to. Sean King joined the show just moments ago.
Rob Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Now you come on, Rob g you jump in on
this too. You you know football. I never remember the
idea of alternating a quarterback if somebody got that's very collegiate,
very no.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Have you ever seen that in the NFL, Like not
in all my years.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
That's what I'm saying, Like that, that idea is just
not because if Dylan Gabriel plays and plays well, there
ain't no way they're gonna go, Okay, now we're gonna
let your door play the next game.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Even if he plays bad, they wouldn't be like, hey,
we gotta let this guy in there.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
It just wouldn't be like that.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, the bad part.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
That was the only part I didn't agree.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
I just think you play it like to me, I've
been in favorite playing Dylan Gabriel or meaning the youth,
like find your guy.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Y'all know I'm big on that.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But even if you played your door, say they played
there and he plays well, you.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Wouldn't go we got our guy, because this might be
our Russell Wilson would go crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
If she was playing well game and then they said
the next game, Dylan Gabriel's playing right.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
No, no, no, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
I'm not mad at you with that, because look, you
might have your Russell Wilson, right, young guy that comes in,
you might have your Ben Roethlisberger, you know, come in
and be able to get the job done right then
and there.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
So yeah, on a collegiate level, we've seen that.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
We've seen that in college, different drives, right, Sometimes of
the same drive, quarterback just comes running in.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You're like, oh, okay, who was it with the Cowboys?
Was it Craig Morton? And they did?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
The Cowboys did that, had two quarterbacks. I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
The Bills did that a little bit with Fluty and
Rob Johnson, and then the Steelers did that.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
With Quardou Cordelle. Steward did a lot, but was justackages.
His was, yeah, we're about to you never know, we're
gonna pass, We're gonna run. Yeah, and you know that
the Saints Hill Taysom Hill, Taysom Hill does it all
the time.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Comes in, my pass might run Mike, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
So, yeah, that was a surprising thing for Shawn to say,
Becausehawn knows ballin.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
We've had him on.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
We get him on on purpose because he knows what
he's talking about. And this is not him specifically, but
more to the shadu Or conversation. The mental gymnastics that
people are going through to give this guy an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That doesn't make sense is crazy to me.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
The only reason why is because again I can't think
of and you both are gay, and you.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And a YouTube chat you and the phone lines, tweet whatever.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
I just can't think of something where rob g I
set up here with you a whole year we would
have some times a conversation pop off and duringout the
college season, and it was kind of a hey man,
they got two top should be first from first round
pick guys and Travison and him, and then all of
a sudden it was cam Ward and him. They're practicing together.
(36:20):
Was gonna be the problem? We could be the two
first two first three quarterbacks taking off the board. It
just kind of was an out through out of the blue.
It just changed and then again demotion and stuff. But
we're not hearing anything. So it makes people like, well,
what are we like? Is there something going on? We
heard about Caleb Williams true, untrue, but we've heard things.
We've heard things about other guys. We've heard things about
(36:41):
JaMarcus Russell. You know, any things come out where you're like, oh,
I heard this, Kyler Murray. They had to put provisions
in his call of duty too much call of duty
things come out, So that's what may also makes it weird.
It's like he dropped, but we ain't really heard it,
and then things look like he's doing everything's supposed to
do with the Browns and he keeps dropping. So that's
only that's why people are like, this is just a
(37:01):
strange occurrence.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Is it something as simple as during this whole draft
process that the guys who were the forward facing members
of the media say, hey, I'm talking to scouts, I'm
talking to gms. He's the one, him and cam Ward,
the guys were they just wrong? And that's what it
is that we were just let it straight bamboozled.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think land on Us, I think you're right. I
really do. I think that they were wrong. And that's why,
like a male, Kuiper was so angry, like like he
would like why but that's but you can't be that
angry something like he was, like it was person that
was guy right, Like what what you so that.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
They don't know anything about quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The league doesn't know anything about like everybody, every scout
but every GM.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
But that leads to why what if I told you
when it happens? Because Mail is like I've been doing
this with y'all for thirty five years and he's been
wrong a lot too, but he's he've been wrong in
a sense of I thought he was a top five pick.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
He dropped a twenty three. No he's not.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
I've been hearing this guy's the first round pick and
he's fifth round and a couple of quarterbacks we we
kind of heard maybe that are ahead of him. That's
why he lost his mind and lost all the slit
slick pat Riley in his hair.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Hey, let me say this real quick, and then you
tell what Gronk said, gran telling him what Gronk said
now and no, no, no, just so, could you just
teased it? Tom Landry did it in nineteen seventy one,
Craig more than Roger Staubach. They split quarterback duties and
then they ultimately picked up Roger Staubach and won to Well.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Good choice. Yeah, I said that worked out for him.
So yeah, Sean King got it right.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
He just was like sixty five seventy years later when
they don't really do that anymore.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
And Gronk talks about punching the chiefs in the face.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Yeah, that's what he was saying, punching the chiefs drinking
beer party and something like that.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay, yeah, don't worry about it. We'll have another talking
about this coming up. I guess all Number three already
got late.
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