September 16, 2025 • 34 mins
Rob and Kelvin celebrate the one-year anniversary of The Odd Couple show, tell us why they believe Tom Brady should step down as FOX television broadcaster given his concurrent role as a minority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders, explain how one Super Bowl ring could vault Lamar Jackson into the top-5 quarterbacks of all-time, and debate whether the time is now to jump off the CJ Stroud bandwagon in Houston.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Let's go big show. Let me welcome in my co
host for the past one year.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh Kelvi, Hey, happy nniversary universary.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Uh yeah, Happy Universus Okay Versus, Happy Versus manvers Happy anniversary,
Matty Universe.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Happy universary to you, Happy universary to this show. Happy
universary to the Odd Couple. Going strong with seven years
one year. You and I we made it.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Looks like we made it. Hey, can I say this seriously?
I always say congratulations. Yeah. I've had a radio show
since nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I work with a lot of people local New York, Detroit,
that other four letter network radio. You know that all
that pass all that. This show is amazing. The people
we work with are amazing. It's really a fun group.
The picture I even posted that we took last year.
(01:40):
Remember we had this.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
That was actually probably like a year and a little
bit longer. That's when they told me I couldn't take
a double order home. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I was like, is this what I'm about to get into? Yes, yes,
everybody gets one entrede you got to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, but I appreciate the hard work and the support
we get of the listeners, and like, what year for
me and you and seven years for this whole thing
called The Odd Couple. And I really thought we were
gonna change the name of the radio show to be
honest when you're coming on. And our bosses Don and
(02:13):
Scott were like, you know, you got something special here
the three of us and Elijah, we're still here and
we're adding Kelvin and he just they were like, let's
keep this thing going.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And you have kept this thing going.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Uh. The Odd Couple is fun, it's informative. It's been
a great ride, and we continue to have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Man, look, you know you you and Chris were already
my guys. I've been in the hot seat a couple
of times, you know, uh, talk to you guys, and
handful of times throughout the years. So for when I
got the call that they said Hey, you know we're
thinking about doing something, thinking about throwing you in the mix.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I was honored really to be honest with you, and
I told you. Then I told Chris obviously, who kind
of you know, was not that you know, he was
moving on, but he kind of blessed it. Uh, you
blessed and then and the big bosses, They've always been
good to me, even you know, years and years and
years doing stuff here.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
So Uh, I appreciate everybody here.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I've told you, And the best part about it is
too And I know it's the same for you that
the pe just mentioned. We work with the best. This
isn't something we're saying right now because the cameras on.
I tell that's why when we say rob G the
Goat and Alex, I think Mad the Goat as well,
and Elijah. You guys are everybody super talented here, Steve
the sec everybody here man has been great. All the
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people in the background that you don't see shot out
to Ricky, you know, be Brandon, brie Ever, everybody. Man,
it's been a great place. It's been a great year.
I want to put y'all headlocked sometimes I want to
adapt y'all hug y'all sometimes. But that's what makes this
great is that we go at it, we compete, we
have fun, we laugh, hopefully we teach a little bit.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Hopefully we learn a little bit. And it's been a
great it's been a great run.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And it's been an easy three sixty five man, you
know how that goes sometimes this brutal like time is
this has been an easy one. So I'm been grateful,
very very grateful for this to show this opportunity.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's been freak man.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I think it's just we've allly just ben no doubt.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
So thanks everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yes, and we're very excited here we go into year
number two with the Odd Couple and us Welcome to
the Odd Couple crew.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
We wouldn't be able to do this fire from without him. Yes,
I know. Rob G is our producer.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Rob G one of the best producers in the business.
Alex engineer, one of the best engineers in the business.
Mister Steve to saying at the anchor desk and Elijah,
you already know, I'm already I text Elijah at midnight
and you got this and his wife and kid.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Who is that.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She had had enough? What's her name? Who is Roberta?
That who is Roberta? No, it's Robert. Baby's Robert. Oh
I thought it said Roberta. I'm sorry, what what is?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
What is? What is she wearing? Khaki jack? Literally? Yeah,
because Elijah getting called in Texas any time night. I'm sorry,
Rob was right? We need that Elijah like yesterday? Sorry
about that? Yeah? All right?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Uh so.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Yeah, that's the crew man.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
There is the crew. Thanks everybody. All right, we got
a great show. We got a lot of stuff to
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Speaker 5 (05:43):
All right, we got a lot to get into, starting with.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Bradygate, which we happen to have, Yeah, another Brady Gate
and Rob g explain what people saw last night on
ESPN and got a lot of people's panties the bunch
when they saw it.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
You mean other than Geno Smith throwing three interceptions.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And then the three interceptions and the to me on
fourth down when he threw the ball out of bounds
that I've watched football since nineteen eighty seven on the
pro level.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I never saw it, Joseph.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I thought it was third down because oh he would win.
TV was down with the girls, you know, because who
does that? You always chuck it at that point. Was
only down the field, maybe fourth pick at that point.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
That's how bad the game was it. The big story
come out of this one was actually involving Tom Brady.
As you know, he is a minority owner with the
Raiders and a broadcaster. I thought he was white go ahead,
the number one broadcaster in fact for Fox. And during
the broadcast they showed him up in the coaches box
with the headset on, listening to all the goings on
between Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll, and during the broadcast,
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Peter Peter Schrager admitted that Chip Kelly told him that
he speaks to Brady three or four times a week,
and that the front office, including Pete Carroll, a new
GM John Spitze, are in constant communication with Tom Brady
would have been such a big deal, of course, he's
the owner, except that he also works for Fox and
he's also.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Involved with the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
In fact, the team that they are going to be
facing next week, the Washington Commanders, Tom Brady is gonna
be speaking with them ahead of their game this weekend
against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Tom Brady could do that. Tom Brady could do that,
Tom Brady, Tom Brady did do that. I have heard
that a long time, Alex. That was a good dig
right there.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
And so, of course the NFL has been well aware
of this problem for a long time, and they recently
actually relaxed some of their protocols to make life easier
for Tom, where they said, hey, you can talk to
these teams, but you can't be in the facility, you
can't be in the locker room. You gotta do everything
remote ly on zoom. The only problem is Tom can
still call these guys whenever he wants to, and he's
still allowed on the field before and after games to
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talk to players, executives, coaches, etc.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
This is real simple for me. Is this on this
on ready to do us a favor? Step down, step
down of one of the two jobs. Which one do
you really want? You can't have both.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Why would you.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Make the league and put the league in a bad
look and a bad light when you're dealing with the
integrity of the sport. It's about protecting the shield, making
sure this doesn't turn into the WWE pick a job,
which one? You know what, John Madden was a great
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football coach and guess what he decided, I don't want
to coach anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I'm gonna go in and be a broadcaster. And guess what.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He turned out to be one of the all time
greats because he chose one lane and put the work
in there.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It's not fair.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't care if you say, well, he's not doing no.
It just doesn't look right. You have two jobs, and
you have access that other teams don't have. On teams
you're going to face and intel and all that. And
coming with the history of the Patriots and the cheating scandal,
I said it, what's a cheater, always a cheated That's
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what it feels like to me, like to get an
upper hand on the next guy.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's a bad look NFL, and I.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Know they don't want to make Tom Brady feel a
certain kind of way.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
That's why I'm putting it on Tom.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Tom, you really want to be an owner and really
want to change the raiders and make them in the winners,
do that. If you don't, and you want to be
a broadcast and you want to be the best color
analyst they've ever been, do what John Madden did. He
walked away from a great coaching career and chose broadcasts
and became great at it. Dabbling in two things like this,
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I'm telling you you're not going to be an all
time great.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Which one do you want? That's my advice to Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
To quote the great Charlie Murphy, who's once said this, No,
he would step across the line habitually.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's an habitual line step for.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Tom Brady is an habitual line stepper. Okay, you tell
him it's here, he's on teater right up to there.
He's gonna get right there. He might even put a
big toe on it. He might not step over it,
but he is gonna step on the line, and that's
what he does, right, And so when you give him,
if you tell your kid, hey, you did this, you're grounded,
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you can't play with your video games.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Video games are off limit, and.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You come on for work. You know what that kid
is doing that habitual line step of kid. They're playing
video games on their computer. And they'll say, well, these
are computer games. And that's what Tom Brady does. He
knows the things that he's not supposed to do. But
the problem is Rob the NFL allows the leniency. What
did Rob G say, Oh, well, they already started to
cut back on that. Cut him some slack here and
(10:53):
let him do this. Well, he can already do these,
and he's gonna keep going. He's gonna keep moving the
gold posts. Well, if I can do this, can I
do this? But if I can talk to them? Can
I talk to them?
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
If I can do this interview and it's obvious.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
And if you read some more of the reports that
we had, you hear some of the anonymous execs and
coaches say one of the things, they're not really worried
about the x's and o's, right, because your game plan
is a game play. We all see it. We watch
the games. We all can get the film, we can
watch the game. See what you do, They were saying.
It's the other things. It's Tom Brady if he goes
in there with a twenty three, twenty four year old
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young player pre game and he's chopping it up with
him just off camera, just how you doing, man, And
he's like, yo, man, I gotta have a big season.
You know, this is my free agent year and I'm
just trying to make some plays. I don't know if
the team wants me. That's what one of the executives said.
Is the concerns. It's things like that, him getting the
upper hand on information and then getting back to the Raiders. Hey,
you know that that dB he talking about, They might
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not want to sign him. We need to get on
that and have any upper hand, and not only just
the x's and O type.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
It's a conflict of person.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a conflict conflict and it just he gets to
dabble in both foot. I get to get all the
information here, do my job here. But then they get
to still be part ownership with the Raiders, talk to
them three four times a week, and it's just not fair.
But again, I'll say it if you let a kid
have ice cream for breakfast, They're gonna do it. And
if the NFL allows him to keep doing these things,
he's gonna do it. And by the way, while he
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is arguably the greatest quarterback, one of the best football players.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Of all time, Joe Montana, arguably, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Okay, he would Why Why does what made them think
he's gonna be the greatest broadcaster of all time?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Why are they so invested in him that even with
this they can't pull apart and separate?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Like why are they like this? This has to work?
They wouldn't let other broadcasters do it. It just doesn't make So.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Far he's been all right, he ain't been all that
to continue to allow you know, the these grievances and
the make rule changes for him. I haven't heard anything
to blow me away like that. So yeah too, to
the victors goes to spoils. It's Tom Brady, it's seven rings,
it's his name. He's synonymous with greatness, he's synonymous with
football lure and legendary, legendary stuff. Pick a lane, and
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they're gonna just allow him to get away with it.
And they're already making sessions, So he's gonna keep going.
He's going to be that kid that keeps pushing the
novelope and if you let him have ice cream for breakfast,
he's going to be sure.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
To catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Rob
Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern, four
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well, first, let's start off with Sunday Sunday against Cleveland.
Through four touchdowns right in the process, became just the
seventh quarterback in NFL history have at least two touchdown
passes and a passer rating of ninety or higher in
ten consecutive games. Every other guy that lives is a
Hall of Famer. That's number one, number two. In the
last twenty games, Rob, as you mentioned, it's getting pretty ridiculous,
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all right. It's completing sixty seven percent of his passes,
twenty seven passing yards, one thousand and thirty three rushing yards,
fifty seven touchdowns against four picks.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
With stupdire fifty seventh to four. Yeah, with the passer
rating of one twenty five point one. But the big
head this one is, guys, you guys mentioned Lamar Jackson
not known historically as a passer right now, the commentary
about him coming out of college.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
After Sunday that four touchdown no pick performance against Cleveland,
Lamar Jackson is officially now the NFL's all time career
leader in passer rating one oh two point sixty five.
He just eclipsed Rob's favorite quarterback, Aaron freakin' Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And we talked about this too. This past year. His
quarterback rating right was the fourth greatest for a regular season.
Aaron Rodgers has two, Peyton Manning has won and Lamar
has one. Think about that. We talked about that, and
the guy didn't win the MVP. Somehow, that guy didn't
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win the MVP. How in the world did that guy
not win the MVP? Absolutely ridiculous. But you know, you've
been saying this from day one.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I know you have.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
You're not surprised, not at all. And the thing is
that that was my whole thing early. I remember when
I was coming on as a guest on you guys
this show, when Chris was here, and I was just
trying to break down the you know, a lot of
people talking about his proficiency at throwing the ball, which
I was like or even being able to read defenses,
and I was like, dude, he played in a pro
style offense since he was a freshman in college. He
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played on the coach Patrino White. Petrino is a highly
skilled offensive guy that runs no NFL type of stuff,
and so I knew he could consume it. I knew
he could process, and I knew he could throw from
being there and seeing him in camp. And so when
that narrative, that narrative was out there, man, it really
got under my skin. And I was going to be
out there and on any platform that I could, and
(15:44):
that's not the case. The guy can play, and so
to see where he is now and to see how
effortless it is for him to go out there and play.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That's the perfect played the quarterback position, right, But that's
the word effortless. And I remember, and Rob g, I've
been talking out this frame in this for a while.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Okay, was it two Christmases ago?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Not?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Remember?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
They beat they bludget the Niners on a Christmas night.
He threw a ball I'll never forget, like to the
side of the end zone, like only in one spot
that it could have been thrown in and I just
thought to myself, effortless, effortless, just like click at the
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Risks flick.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I was like, are you kidding me? And can like
I just Rob.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
It really irked me early on and Rob g knows
this when I whenever we talked about Lamar like it's
it's obviously it's personal because I know I know him.
But even if I didn't know him, and now like
watching him and seeing him play the quarterback position, and
to think that, you know, even coming.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Into the year he was like what third or fourth?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
He was fourth on that list, Like, I get it,
the other guys are good too, but this guy is
on the streak that we've never seen before. And the
way he's throwing the ball in the way he's reading defenses,
and the way that off as this operating now even
now he could he has more control of it.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
He's He's my CTV.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
This is what I was telling people about. This is
why I'm not a red zone guy.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Watch him play. I don't want to see when he's
only in the I want to watch the entire game.
Why would you not want to watch Lamar Jackson play football?
I want to watch every single moment he's.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
The best football player in the league period. And here's
the oven quarterback player. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It ain't gonna take much to vote him over a
lot of players. Okay, because once he wins that one
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
All he needs is one.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
He has to devalidate the whole thing. But he has
everything else you need, all the numbers, all the other stuff.
And then if once he gets that one and I
say win, he's too good that he's not going to win.
He is going to win. He's not like when he's
I don't know, he's gonna win.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Well, if his coach doesn't take if it's coach doesn't
mess that up, we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Hey, what did I say, rob g about John Harball.
If his coach doesn't doesn't mess it up, Dude, I've
said it. I think he should be fired because they can't.
They can't, They can't hold on anything.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Yeah, it's at a point like, Okay, we know that
every time in every big game something happens something only
but that's a lot of that has to do with
coaching and being prepared for those moments.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
There is, but he is a marvel to watch, Like
there aren't that many players who you just want to like,
you know when they do those ISO cams.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Or want the camera on him.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, like the movements, Hey put the camera on me, like,
like he is one of those guys.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Rob He is dropping back, he is running around in
the backfield like he's playing pop worn and football against
grown men.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's insane to me. I played the game.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
I've never seen anybody toy with defenders the way that
he does. When when the play's not there, there's nobody else.
Let me, Josh Allen is up there as far as
when the play is not when the play's broken down,
and Patrick Mahomes too, but Lamar, when it's broken down,
he can.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Do things the other guys can't do. It's crazy, it
really is.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Rob g you you've been You're on the Lamar badwagon,
right yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
It will get credit for that one.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
You want to ring me about the Baker Mayfield take,
but la early on Lamar Jackson, right, you are, No,
He's awesome. And we talked about this maybe a week
and a half ago, and we talked about it before
the show on the text chain. I'm with you, Robert.
I think whenever he gets that one, super you got
to win two or three. Once he gets one, there's
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gonna be some very uncomfortable conversations about where he ranks
all tim because his resume, his DIC is incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
It's ridiculous, it is all. It's just missing one thing.
It's missing that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And you know you don't, like you say, Rob g
he don't have to win three in a row. For
once he wins one, and god forbid, once he wins one.
You know what I mean, Like you know how to win? Yeah,
once you win one, like it could be a run.
But I'm saying he just needs to win that one,
and then you will start to look at all these
other quarterbacks and people because the numbers don't lie. Top
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four all time for a season passer rating. This this
twenty game stretch, fifty seven touchdowns, four picks. Three of
those picks went up the hands of receivers.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Three.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
You can say, oh whatever, but this is really what
we're talking about. Yeah, and I'm not gonna I get
his playoff record. I'm not trying to discount it or
pooh poo it. Okay, it's not good. Okay, but even
last year shorthanded Andrews, like like what was that? And
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I felt he cheated us from a moment he did,
because I thought, oh my god, if they come back,
because you remember they were kind of like they could
have tied that game and then beat Buffalo. That would
have been like the step. There was a moment there
he watched him right down the field. You remember that,
of course. And then Andrew, I mean, you could throw
that ball one hundred times, ninety nine times you're going
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to catch that, am I right? One hundred ninety nine times?
You catch that boy.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
And there were people going on TV saying he could
have thrown the better ball up like things like that,
like that's kind to keep the narrative.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Noah, that that's nitpicking, And ain't no way Mark Andrew
could look at that and go, oh no, he didn't
throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Are you kidding? They got to catch that? Yeah, that
was bad.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Well, just so you guys know, this season so far
as only two games, obviously, but Lamar Jackson is already
first in the NFL and QBR first and passer rating,
first in touchdown passes and first having the lowest interceptions,
So like, what else do you want him to do?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
At this point? It's got to win that big one.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
So so I'll ask you, Kry, because I talk to
Rob about this again about a week ago. I believe
that if as soon as he wins one, if he
does nothing else the rest of his career. Let's say
he wins this year and he retires because he's like,
I'm done, I'm over it. I'm going back to the Florida.
I think you could make an argument right off the
rip that he's the top five quarterback ever immediately won,
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just based on because he's got the two MVPs missed
unanimous by one vote for them, and everybody's gonna talk
as good as Josh Allen is. Everyone's going to talk
about five. Well, you know that was the Mars MVP,
Like we all know that was the Mars MVP.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Right, And as he keeps playing, yeah, you keep going back.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
He wins at like a seventy five percent clip as
a starter.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
And he's going he's seventy l He's.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Currently we mentioned the all time leader in passer rating.
He's the first player in NFL history throw at least
forty touchdown passes and fewer than five picks in the season. Okay,
he's got the string of ten straight games with at
least two touchdown passes and passer rating over ninety like,
and that's not even factoring in he's without question the
greatest running quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
We even got to that part that So.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
If you just throw that out there again, if it
ends after the season to say he seals the deal.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
The only guys who I would not really argue with you.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Are are better, have a better resume would be Brady
Mahomes Manning and maybe Montana you got, and then other
than that. Other than that, I would I would probably
fight you about everybody else would There'd be some given
taking you're going to person. Yeah, you know, I'm a
big Aaron Rodgers fan, but I could see blah bla blah,
I'm a big Dan Reno guy. Whatever would drop down
(23:30):
because it's right there. Though for Lamar Jackson, with everybody
else other than those first four.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
Guys, I don't disagree. No, I agree with that as well.
I mean you had to throw Montana in there. He's
he's my goals, my goal overall, even over Brady. So
uh but yeah, no, I wouldn't argue that. I think
if he gets it done, and I think that's the
whole thing, and that's the asteris right.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
People, younger people, they really don't know Joe Montana's cool.
They don't.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
They really really don't when I tell people, you know,
And it's not just the four and in the Super Bowl,
all right, eleven touchdowns no pigs, one two with Jerry Rice,
one two without Jerry Rice, three three Super Bowl MVPs.
And two of those Super Bowls he had to throw
(24:12):
a touchdown to win the game, not a field goal.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Get closed. Yeah, you need a touchdown game, win the drive. Yeah, dude,
he was amazing. He was my guy. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
But La Lamar, Yeah, I mean he's sniffing, he's sniffing greatness.
He's already great. But as far as the overall resume,
he definitely needs that that championship on the resume.
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Speaker 7 (25:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
CJ.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Stroud.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Last night, another disappointing loss for Houston. Baker Mayfield, who
overcame a lot over the last three years to go
from being out of the league like I thought, to
being one of the best quarterbacks in football, had a
game winning touchdown driving the final two minutes.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
He was great.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
They came back and win on the road in Houston.
The big story though, here is in the last eight games.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
CJ.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Stroud, who was everybody's favorite quarterback a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I mean, people had them going to the Super Bowl
his second year. Their offense has scored twenty points or
less in six of their last eight games, so they're
really struggling.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
And after the game, Stroud told the Associated Press quote,
everybody's gonna talk crazy and say we suck and we're
this and that. But at the end of the day,
we gotta stay together, be honest and have hard conversation.
But I think right now we need more confidence as
an offense, just confidently playing better together.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I think that is the biggest thing. Oh oh, that
was a little breath. I'm just gonna say I think
CJ is right. He and the Texas they do suck.
It's been it's been bad, and I get it. Injury,
it's football injuries. You gotta work through this kind of stuff. Okay,
but they were to catch me out after his first year.
(26:22):
Oh my god, like like people were like had them
penciled into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yes, after they brought on stuff on.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Dr oh yeah, and then they added digs right, Oh
my god, what how you gonna stop them? You couldn't
stop him his first year. And again we just talked
about it with Jane Daniels. Yes, they get tape on you.
Things change like, oh, we didn't know what to expect.
We see it in baseball time, and you notice carry
you follow it. You come up to the major leagues.
First thing they do is they want to make sure
(26:51):
can you hit the fastball. They're gonna throw you fastballs
and and see if you could even hit that first yes, okay.
When you start to hit that, then they mix in
the breaking stuff and the curveballs and then you wind
up going back to the minor leagues because you can't
hit that consistently. Yes, and the same thing in the beginning,
Jaye Dan, All these young guys come out on the
(27:11):
scene and not sure what they do, and they don't
have enough tape to figure it all out. Why do
you think Bill Belichick and Spygate and trying to figure
out signals and what people are doing. It makes a
big difference if you know what's coming. Okay, but it's
been disappointing.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
C J.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Stroud and the Texans. This off to an zero and
two start and here we go, like, I don't know
where this team is going home dinner, maybe a show,
but it don't look like they going to the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, listen, Rob, this is the thing. The only thing
I'm worried about with c. J. Stroud right now is
him falling victim to the David Carr syndrome. And I
say this in a way because David Carr came in
highly touted. I mean, people thought he could played, he's accurate,
he can make completions cool. He got sacked so many
(27:58):
times that rookie year that he became gunshot. He became
a guy that was in the pocket. He didn't trust
his reeds, he didn't trust his feet, He couldn't make
the throws down the field anymore.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
With c J.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Stroud, he's becoming that guy on tape right now. He's
so worried about the pass rush and its offensive line
being terrible because they are right now they can't block
anybody that he is not stepping in his throws, having
the right mechanics. And so for me just looking at CJ. Stroud,
is he still that good quarterback or has that capability? Yes,
(28:29):
but if he doesn't correct it right now or they
fix it, they get him an old line that can
actually protect him, he's heading down that path. And so
the Texans they got a good coach and Demico Ryans
my high school teammate, so I know he'll have those
guys ready to play. But right now, I'm just worried
about c J. Stroud and him being falling victim to
the David Carsondrome.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well, let me give you some of these numbers. Yeah,
and they're not pretty. Stroud's numbers are down across the
board since his Pro Bowl rookie season in twenty twenty three. Ready, Yeah, Yeah,
passing yards per game of going from two seventy three
to two nineteen to one ninety seven. His passer rating
has dropped from one hundred to eighty seven to eighty five.
(29:11):
And on the flip side, his sack percentage has jumped
up from seven to eight point nine to now ten
point five. That's what you were talking about with the sacks.
And I know that they had last year injuries and
they were missing people.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yes, but you come here as a game. You needed
to win that game yesterday, right, came out strong. Right,
you're at home.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
You want to be one in one. You don't want
to be in a hole. I think, is this rob
g five years of the road that they're oning two? No, no, no,
I saw something about them getting off to bad starts
Cincinnati usually Cincinnati's on too.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Now they started two and h last year. Yeah, okay, okay, they.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Started out last year five and one. Everybody's feeling real great?
Is that one that they finished.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Ten and seven?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
But if you remember.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Who was it through five interceptions against them from the Lions? Right?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Who golf golf through five interceptions and beat them? Do
you remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
They lost twenty six twenty three in that game five
and they won. The lines won that game, yeah, which
is insane.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Insane about the line that I didn't know what he
was talking about.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I'm like, I know who right what TV was talking about? No,
but they did.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I remember that game very very vividly, because you don't.
You don't throw five interceptions and won.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
A football game. It's just almost impossible.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Uh but where they go? Where are they? Who are they?
I know that you're your teammate from high school, Demico,
Demico coach, Yep, yeah, no, he's go ahead, Yeah, but
I'm just but I'm just saying, where where are they?
Because because they they don't seem to be the same
as two years ago?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Right now, if you're on two, you're bad, So you're right.
But I'm saying, I know if anybody can get this
ship righted, Demko is that guy.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
And for C. J.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Stroud, I'm just worried about him because the protected it
because if he's protected, he can still make it through.
He's not a bad quarterback yet and he does not
suck yet. Rob the Texans suck.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, and he right away knew he goes. Oh, the
narrative about us is gonna be Yeah, there is a narrative.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yes, there is a narrative, and it's in the AFC South.
They're not out of it, so you got to think
about that as well.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, but how good are they? And I get I
get that you're gonna make the playoffs, But are you
beating anybody good?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Is my question to you.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Nah? Yeah, I don't feel like that. And it wasn't
that long ago where people were really hot. Yeah, And
and football is like that, adjustments and growing pains and
you get knocked down, you gotta come back. It's it's
it's it's not as easy as it looks. Okay, that's
the beautiful part about sports in general. Rob Like you
have to get knocked down. You got to understand how
(31:56):
how hard it is to get to that that pinnacle,
that that championship. I agree that everybody's trying to you know,
I guess reach for It just doesn't happen overnight. And
you have some guys that come in and have success
right away, but it's not always going to be that way.
And so for guys like CJ. Trial, it's this is
the time for them to actually talk about baseball, find
(32:18):
their off speed pitch because you're not gonna beat everybody
with fastballs.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
In the case of the Texans, I just I just
look at them and and that was par for the
course last night, Like really, like I just knew, like
when the when the Bucks were driving all these yeah,
I felt like they were gonna win that game and
it was gonna be another heartbreaking kind of situation, uh
(32:44):
for the Texans, who were the new hotness. I mean
they really were. I mean the buzz about them and
what they were doing with a young you know, new
coach and new quarterback and all these other pieces. People
are like and then they go out and add Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well you know who that is?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Now?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You know what team that is right now? What's that?
That's the Commander's that you're talking about right now? They
over a team in year one, oh no doubt. And
this year I've already told people pumped the brakes on
this year already coming into the season. But the same
thing you're saying right now, like when you look at
the I know I'm jumping to the Commanders, but when
you look at their roster, who on that roster scares you?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Right? You know you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like nobody but that's why that's such a bad loss
for the Lions.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Seriously, last year, Oh yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Have home field, you go fifteen and two, You got
a rookie quarter They were nine and a half point
favorites coming into that game that even with their secondary,
their defense banged up, Vegas still gave them.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That because they thought they would be an outscore.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Still nine point favorites, not in a half point favorites.
And that's what your defense banged up. That tells you.
But they didn't know that Jared Golf, I don't know
was going to have four and four turnovers.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You know, you said that's whole casual.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Then they know that Jared Golf or Jared Tennis. I
always say he turned into Jared Tennis.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
That's funny.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Why are you burying the lead right now? Ron, because
Carrie just had a major breakthrough at this moment.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
You heard that. What I was like, what he did
was you went full Rob Parker.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
You let us know across the national airwaves that Carry
don't like black quarterbacks either. All of a sudden, he
loves Rob, loves them all, Carry loves them all. Everybody
else can go whoa you don't like J. I didn't
I like c J is fine, he's just not playing well.
He would say he sucks, he's not playing well exactly.
He didn't even mention Jalen Hurts. So we're gonna you know,
(34:38):
I don't like JA. Now we're going down the list
should be together.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
That's gonna be racist at least. Rob Honesty, I don't
like black quarterbacks, Rob G. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
Put on my ki oh Man
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Speaker 5 (01:07):
Looks like we made it. Hey, can I say this seriously?
I always say congratulations. Yeah. I've had a radio show
since nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I work with a lot of people local New York, Detroit,
that other four letter network radio. You know that all
that pass all that. This show is amazing. The people
we work with are amazing. It's really a fun group.
The picture I even posted that we took last year.
(01:40):
Remember we had this.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
That was actually probably like a year and a little
bit longer. That's when they told me I couldn't take
a double order home. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I was like, is this what I'm about to get into? Yes, yes,
everybody gets one entrede you got to.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, but I appreciate the hard work and the support
we get of the listeners, and like, what year for
me and you and seven years for this whole thing
called The Odd Couple. And I really thought we were
gonna change the name of the radio show to be
honest when you're coming on. And our bosses Don and
(02:13):
Scott were like, you know, you got something special here
the three of us and Elijah, we're still here and
we're adding Kelvin and he just they were like, let's
keep this thing going.
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Uh. The Odd Couple is fun, it's informative. It's been
a great ride, and we continue to have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah.
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Man, look, you know you you and Chris were already
my guys. I've been in the hot seat a couple
of times, you know, uh, talk to you guys, and
handful of times throughout the years. So for when I
got the call that they said Hey, you know we're
thinking about doing something, thinking about throwing you in the mix.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
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Speaker 1 (02:49):
I was honored really to be honest with you, and
I told you. Then I told Chris obviously, who kind
of you know, was not that you know, he was
moving on, but he kind of blessed it. Uh, you
blessed and then and the big bosses, They've always been
good to me, even you know, years and years and
years doing stuff here.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
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Speaker 1 (03:06):
I've told you, And the best part about it is
too And I know it's the same for you that
the pe just mentioned. We work with the best. This
isn't something we're saying right now because the cameras on.
I tell that's why when we say rob G the
Goat and Alex, I think Mad the Goat as well,
and Elijah. You guys are everybody super talented here, Steve
the sec everybody here man has been great. All the
(03:27):
people in the background that you don't see shot out
to Ricky, you know, be Brandon, brie Ever, everybody. Man,
it's been a great place. It's been a great year.
I want to put y'all headlocked sometimes I want to
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Speaker 5 (03:45):
Hopefully we learn a little bit. And it's been a
great it's been a great run.
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Yes, and we're very excited here we go into year
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We wouldn't be able to do this fire from without him. Yes,
I know. Rob G is our producer.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Rob G one of the best producers in the business.
Alex engineer, one of the best engineers in the business.
Mister Steve to saying at the anchor desk and Elijah,
you already know, I'm already I text Elijah at midnight
and you got this and his wife and kid.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Who is that.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She had had enough? What's her name? Who is Roberta?
That who is Roberta? No, it's Robert. Baby's Robert. Oh
I thought it said Roberta. I'm sorry, what what is?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
What is? What is she wearing? Khaki jack? Literally? Yeah,
because Elijah getting called in Texas any time night. I'm sorry,
Rob was right? We need that Elijah like yesterday? Sorry
about that? Yeah? All right?
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Speaker 5 (05:43):
All right, we got a lot to get into, starting with.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Bradygate, which we happen to have, Yeah, another Brady Gate
and Rob g explain what people saw last night on
ESPN and got a lot of people's panties the bunch
when they saw it.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
You mean other than Geno Smith throwing three interceptions.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
And then the three interceptions and the to me on
fourth down when he threw the ball out of bounds
that I've watched football since nineteen eighty seven on the
pro level.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I never saw it, Joseph.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I thought it was third down because oh he would win.
TV was down with the girls, you know, because who
does that? You always chuck it at that point. Was
only down the field, maybe fourth pick at that point.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
That's how bad the game was it. The big story
come out of this one was actually involving Tom Brady.
As you know, he is a minority owner with the
Raiders and a broadcaster. I thought he was white go ahead,
the number one broadcaster in fact for Fox. And during
the broadcast they showed him up in the coaches box
with the headset on, listening to all the goings on
between Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll, and during the broadcast,
(06:49):
Peter Peter Schrager admitted that Chip Kelly told him that
he speaks to Brady three or four times a week,
and that the front office, including Pete Carroll, a new
GM John Spitze, are in constant communication with Tom Brady
would have been such a big deal, of course, he's
the owner, except that he also works for Fox and
he's also.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Involved with the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
In fact, the team that they are going to be
facing next week, the Washington Commanders, Tom Brady is gonna
be speaking with them ahead of their game this weekend
against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Tom Brady could do that. Tom Brady could do that,
Tom Brady, Tom Brady did do that. I have heard
that a long time, Alex. That was a good dig
right there.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
And so, of course the NFL has been well aware
of this problem for a long time, and they recently
actually relaxed some of their protocols to make life easier
for Tom, where they said, hey, you can talk to
these teams, but you can't be in the facility, you
can't be in the locker room. You gotta do everything
remote ly on zoom. The only problem is Tom can
still call these guys whenever he wants to, and he's
still allowed on the field before and after games to
(07:53):
talk to players, executives, coaches, etc.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
This is real simple for me. Is this on this
on ready to do us a favor? Step down, step
down of one of the two jobs. Which one do
you really want? You can't have both.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Why would you.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Make the league and put the league in a bad
look and a bad light when you're dealing with the
integrity of the sport. It's about protecting the shield, making
sure this doesn't turn into the WWE pick a job,
which one? You know what, John Madden was a great
(08:36):
football coach and guess what he decided, I don't want
to coach anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I'm gonna go in and be a broadcaster. And guess what.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
He turned out to be one of the all time
greats because he chose one lane and put the work
in there.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
It's not fair.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't care if you say, well, he's not doing no.
It just doesn't look right. You have two jobs, and
you have access that other teams don't have. On teams
you're going to face and intel and all that. And
coming with the history of the Patriots and the cheating scandal,
I said it, what's a cheater, always a cheated That's
(09:14):
what it feels like to me, like to get an
upper hand on the next guy.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's a bad look NFL, and I.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Know they don't want to make Tom Brady feel a
certain kind of way.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
That's why I'm putting it on Tom.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Tom, you really want to be an owner and really
want to change the raiders and make them in the winners,
do that. If you don't, and you want to be
a broadcast and you want to be the best color
analyst they've ever been, do what John Madden did. He
walked away from a great coaching career and chose broadcasts
and became great at it. Dabbling in two things like this,
(09:51):
I'm telling you you're not going to be an all
time great.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Which one do you want? That's my advice to Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
To quote the great Charlie Murphy, who's once said this, No,
he would step across the line habitually.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's an habitual line step for.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Tom Brady is an habitual line stepper. Okay, you tell
him it's here, he's on teater right up to there.
He's gonna get right there. He might even put a
big toe on it. He might not step over it,
but he is gonna step on the line, and that's
what he does, right, And so when you give him,
if you tell your kid, hey, you did this, you're grounded,
(10:29):
you can't play with your video games.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Video games are off limit, and.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You come on for work. You know what that kid
is doing that habitual line step of kid. They're playing
video games on their computer. And they'll say, well, these
are computer games. And that's what Tom Brady does. He
knows the things that he's not supposed to do. But
the problem is Rob the NFL allows the leniency. What
did Rob G say, Oh, well, they already started to
cut back on that. Cut him some slack here and
(10:53):
let him do this. Well, he can already do these,
and he's gonna keep going. He's gonna keep moving the
gold posts. Well, if I can do this, can I
do this? But if I can talk to them? Can
I talk to them?
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
If I can do this interview and it's obvious.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
And if you read some more of the reports that
we had, you hear some of the anonymous execs and
coaches say one of the things, they're not really worried
about the x's and o's, right, because your game plan
is a game play. We all see it. We watch
the games. We all can get the film, we can
watch the game. See what you do, They were saying.
It's the other things. It's Tom Brady if he goes
in there with a twenty three, twenty four year old
(11:23):
young player pre game and he's chopping it up with
him just off camera, just how you doing, man, And
he's like, yo, man, I gotta have a big season.
You know, this is my free agent year and I'm
just trying to make some plays. I don't know if
the team wants me. That's what one of the executives said.
Is the concerns. It's things like that, him getting the
upper hand on information and then getting back to the Raiders. Hey,
you know that that dB he talking about, They might
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not want to sign him. We need to get on
that and have any upper hand, and not only just
the x's and O type.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
It's a conflict of person.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
It's a conflict conflict and it just he gets to
dabble in both foot. I get to get all the
information here, do my job here. But then they get
to still be part ownership with the Raiders, talk to
them three four times a week, and it's just not fair.
But again, I'll say it if you let a kid
have ice cream for breakfast, They're gonna do it. And
if the NFL allows him to keep doing these things,
he's gonna do it. And by the way, while he
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is arguably the greatest quarterback, one of the best football players.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Of all time, Joe Montana, arguably, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Okay, he would Why Why does what made them think
he's gonna be the greatest broadcaster of all time?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Why are they so invested in him that even with
this they can't pull apart and separate?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Like why are they like this? This has to work?
They wouldn't let other broadcasters do it. It just doesn't make So.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Far he's been all right, he ain't been all that
to continue to allow you know, the these grievances and
the make rule changes for him. I haven't heard anything
to blow me away like that. So yeah too, to
the victors goes to spoils. It's Tom Brady, it's seven rings,
it's his name. He's synonymous with greatness, he's synonymous with
football lure and legendary, legendary stuff. Pick a lane, and
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they're gonna just allow him to get away with it.
And they're already making sessions, So he's gonna keep going.
He's going to be that kid that keeps pushing the
novelope and if you let him have ice cream for breakfast,
he's going to be sure.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
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Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well, first, let's start off with Sunday Sunday against Cleveland.
Through four touchdowns right in the process, became just the
seventh quarterback in NFL history have at least two touchdown
passes and a passer rating of ninety or higher in
ten consecutive games. Every other guy that lives is a
Hall of Famer. That's number one, number two. In the
last twenty games, Rob, as you mentioned, it's getting pretty ridiculous,
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all right. It's completing sixty seven percent of his passes,
twenty seven passing yards, one thousand and thirty three rushing yards,
fifty seven touchdowns against four picks.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
With stupdire fifty seventh to four. Yeah, with the passer
rating of one twenty five point one. But the big
head this one is, guys, you guys mentioned Lamar Jackson
not known historically as a passer right now, the commentary
about him coming out of college.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
After Sunday that four touchdown no pick performance against Cleveland,
Lamar Jackson is officially now the NFL's all time career
leader in passer rating one oh two point sixty five.
He just eclipsed Rob's favorite quarterback, Aaron freakin' Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And we talked about this too. This past year. His
quarterback rating right was the fourth greatest for a regular season.
Aaron Rodgers has two, Peyton Manning has won and Lamar
has one. Think about that. We talked about that, and
the guy didn't win the MVP. Somehow, that guy didn't
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win the MVP. How in the world did that guy
not win the MVP? Absolutely ridiculous. But you know, you've
been saying this from day one.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I know you have.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
You're not surprised, not at all. And the thing is
that that was my whole thing early. I remember when
I was coming on as a guest on you guys
this show, when Chris was here, and I was just
trying to break down the you know, a lot of
people talking about his proficiency at throwing the ball, which
I was like or even being able to read defenses,
and I was like, dude, he played in a pro
style offense since he was a freshman in college. He
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played on the coach Patrino White. Petrino is a highly
skilled offensive guy that runs no NFL type of stuff,
and so I knew he could consume it. I knew
he could process, and I knew he could throw from
being there and seeing him in camp. And so when
that narrative, that narrative was out there, man, it really
got under my skin. And I was going to be
out there and on any platform that I could, and
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that's not the case. The guy can play, and so
to see where he is now and to see how
effortless it is for him to go out there and play.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That's the perfect played the quarterback position, right, But that's
the word effortless. And I remember, and Rob g, I've
been talking out this frame in this for a while.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Okay, was it two Christmases ago?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Not?
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Remember?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
They beat they bludget the Niners on a Christmas night.
He threw a ball I'll never forget, like to the
side of the end zone, like only in one spot
that it could have been thrown in and I just
thought to myself, effortless, effortless, just like click at the
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Risks flick.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I was like, are you kidding me? And can like
I just Rob.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
It really irked me early on and Rob g knows
this when I whenever we talked about Lamar like it's
it's obviously it's personal because I know I know him.
But even if I didn't know him, and now like
watching him and seeing him play the quarterback position, and
to think that, you know, even coming.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Into the year he was like what third or fourth?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
He was fourth on that list, Like, I get it,
the other guys are good too, but this guy is
on the streak that we've never seen before. And the
way he's throwing the ball in the way he's reading defenses,
and the way that off as this operating now even
now he could he has more control of it.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
He's He's my CTV.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
This is what I was telling people about. This is
why I'm not a red zone guy.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Watch him play. I don't want to see when he's
only in the I want to watch the entire game.
Why would you not want to watch Lamar Jackson play football?
I want to watch every single moment he's.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
The best football player in the league period. And here's
the oven quarterback player. Here's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
It ain't gonna take much to vote him over a
lot of players. Okay, because once he wins that one
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
All he needs is one.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
He has to devalidate the whole thing. But he has
everything else you need, all the numbers, all the other stuff.
And then if once he gets that one and I
say win, he's too good that he's not going to win.
He is going to win. He's not like when he's
I don't know, he's gonna win.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Well, if his coach doesn't take if it's coach doesn't
mess that up, we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Hey, what did I say, rob g about John Harball.
If his coach doesn't doesn't mess it up, Dude, I've
said it. I think he should be fired because they can't.
They can't, They can't hold on anything.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Yeah, it's at a point like, Okay, we know that
every time in every big game something happens something only
but that's a lot of that has to do with
coaching and being prepared for those moments.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
There is, but he is a marvel to watch, Like
there aren't that many players who you just want to like,
you know when they do those ISO cams.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Or want the camera on him.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, like the movements, Hey put the camera on me, like,
like he is one of those guys.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Rob He is dropping back, he is running around in
the backfield like he's playing pop worn and football against
grown men.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's insane to me. I played the game.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
I've never seen anybody toy with defenders the way that
he does. When when the play's not there, there's nobody else.
Let me, Josh Allen is up there as far as
when the play is not when the play's broken down,
and Patrick Mahomes too, but Lamar, when it's broken down,
he can.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Do things the other guys can't do. It's crazy, it
really is.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Rob g you you've been You're on the Lamar badwagon,
right yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
It will get credit for that one.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
You want to ring me about the Baker Mayfield take,
but la early on Lamar Jackson, right, you are, No,
He's awesome. And we talked about this maybe a week
and a half ago, and we talked about it before
the show on the text chain. I'm with you, Robert.
I think whenever he gets that one, super you got
to win two or three. Once he gets one, there's
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gonna be some very uncomfortable conversations about where he ranks
all tim because his resume, his DIC is incredible.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
It's ridiculous, it is all. It's just missing one thing.
It's missing that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And you know you don't, like you say, Rob g
he don't have to win three in a row. For
once he wins one, and god forbid, once he wins one.
You know what I mean, Like you know how to win? Yeah,
once you win one, like it could be a run.
But I'm saying he just needs to win that one,
and then you will start to look at all these
other quarterbacks and people because the numbers don't lie. Top
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four all time for a season passer rating. This this
twenty game stretch, fifty seven touchdowns, four picks. Three of
those picks went up the hands of receivers.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Three.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
You can say, oh whatever, but this is really what
we're talking about. Yeah, and I'm not gonna I get
his playoff record. I'm not trying to discount it or
pooh poo it. Okay, it's not good. Okay, but even
last year shorthanded Andrews, like like what was that? And
(20:45):
I felt he cheated us from a moment he did,
because I thought, oh my god, if they come back,
because you remember they were kind of like they could
have tied that game and then beat Buffalo. That would
have been like the step. There was a moment there
he watched him right down the field. You remember that,
of course. And then Andrew, I mean, you could throw
that ball one hundred times, ninety nine times you're going
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to catch that, am I right? One hundred ninety nine times?
You catch that boy.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
And there were people going on TV saying he could
have thrown the better ball up like things like that,
like that's kind to keep the narrative.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Noah, that that's nitpicking, And ain't no way Mark Andrew
could look at that and go, oh no, he didn't
throw the ball.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Are you kidding? They got to catch that? Yeah, that
was bad.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Well, just so you guys know, this season so far
as only two games, obviously, but Lamar Jackson is already
first in the NFL and QBR first and passer rating,
first in touchdown passes and first having the lowest interceptions,
So like, what else do you want him to do?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
At this point? It's got to win that big one.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
So so I'll ask you, Kry, because I talk to
Rob about this again about a week ago. I believe
that if as soon as he wins one, if he
does nothing else the rest of his career. Let's say
he wins this year and he retires because he's like,
I'm done, I'm over it. I'm going back to the Florida.
I think you could make an argument right off the
rip that he's the top five quarterback ever immediately won,
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just based on because he's got the two MVPs missed
unanimous by one vote for them, and everybody's gonna talk
as good as Josh Allen is. Everyone's going to talk
about five. Well, you know that was the Mars MVP,
Like we all know that was the Mars MVP.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Right, And as he keeps playing, yeah, you keep going back.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
He wins at like a seventy five percent clip as
a starter.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
And he's going he's seventy l He's.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Currently we mentioned the all time leader in passer rating.
He's the first player in NFL history throw at least
forty touchdown passes and fewer than five picks in the season. Okay,
he's got the string of ten straight games with at
least two touchdown passes and passer rating over ninety like,
and that's not even factoring in he's without question the
greatest running quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
We even got to that part that So.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
If you just throw that out there again, if it
ends after the season to say he seals the deal.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
The only guys who I would not really argue with you.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Are are better, have a better resume would be Brady
Mahomes Manning and maybe Montana you got, and then other
than that. Other than that, I would I would probably
fight you about everybody else would There'd be some given
taking you're going to person. Yeah, you know, I'm a
big Aaron Rodgers fan, but I could see blah bla blah,
I'm a big Dan Reno guy. Whatever would drop down
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because it's right there. Though for Lamar Jackson, with everybody
else other than those first four.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
Guys, I don't disagree. No, I agree with that as well.
I mean you had to throw Montana in there. He's
he's my goals, my goal overall, even over Brady. So
uh but yeah, no, I wouldn't argue that. I think
if he gets it done, and I think that's the
whole thing, and that's the asteris right.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Now.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
People, younger people, they really don't know Joe Montana's cool.
They don't.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
They really really don't when I tell people, you know,
And it's not just the four and in the Super Bowl,
all right, eleven touchdowns no pigs, one two with Jerry Rice,
one two without Jerry Rice, three three Super Bowl MVPs.
And two of those Super Bowls he had to throw
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a touchdown to win the game, not a field goal.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Get closed. Yeah, you need a touchdown game, win the drive. Yeah, dude,
he was amazing. He was my guy. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
But La Lamar, Yeah, I mean he's sniffing, he's sniffing greatness.
He's already great. But as far as the overall resume,
he definitely needs that that championship on the resume.
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Speaker 7 (25:12):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
CJ.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Stroud.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Last night, another disappointing loss for Houston. Baker Mayfield, who
overcame a lot over the last three years to go
from being out of the league like I thought, to
being one of the best quarterbacks in football, had a
game winning touchdown driving the final two minutes.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
He was great.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
They came back and win on the road in Houston.
The big story though, here is in the last eight games.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
CJ.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
Stroud, who was everybody's favorite quarterback a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I mean, people had them going to the Super Bowl
his second year. Their offense has scored twenty points or
less in six of their last eight games, so they're
really struggling.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
And after the game, Stroud told the Associated Press quote,
everybody's gonna talk crazy and say we suck and we're
this and that. But at the end of the day,
we gotta stay together, be honest and have hard conversation.
But I think right now we need more confidence as
an offense, just confidently playing better together.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I think that is the biggest thing. Oh oh, that
was a little breath. I'm just gonna say I think
CJ is right. He and the Texas they do suck.
It's been it's been bad, and I get it. Injury,
it's football injuries. You gotta work through this kind of stuff. Okay,
but they were to catch me out after his first year.
(26:22):
Oh my god, like like people were like had them
penciled into the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yes, after they brought on stuff on.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Dr oh yeah, and then they added digs right, Oh
my god, what how you gonna stop them? You couldn't
stop him his first year. And again we just talked
about it with Jane Daniels. Yes, they get tape on you.
Things change like, oh, we didn't know what to expect.
We see it in baseball time, and you notice carry
you follow it. You come up to the major leagues.
First thing they do is they want to make sure
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can you hit the fastball. They're gonna throw you fastballs
and and see if you could even hit that first yes, okay.
When you start to hit that, then they mix in
the breaking stuff and the curveballs and then you wind
up going back to the minor leagues because you can't
hit that consistently. Yes, and the same thing in the beginning,
Jaye Dan, All these young guys come out on the
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scene and not sure what they do, and they don't
have enough tape to figure it all out. Why do
you think Bill Belichick and Spygate and trying to figure
out signals and what people are doing. It makes a
big difference if you know what's coming. Okay, but it's
been disappointing.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
C J.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Stroud and the Texans. This off to an zero and
two start and here we go, like, I don't know
where this team is going home dinner, maybe a show,
but it don't look like they going to the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Well, listen, Rob, this is the thing. The only thing
I'm worried about with c. J. Stroud right now is
him falling victim to the David Carr syndrome. And I
say this in a way because David Carr came in
highly touted. I mean, people thought he could played, he's accurate,
he can make completions cool. He got sacked so many
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times that rookie year that he became gunshot. He became
a guy that was in the pocket. He didn't trust
his reeds, he didn't trust his feet, He couldn't make
the throws down the field anymore.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
With c J.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Stroud, he's becoming that guy on tape right now. He's
so worried about the pass rush and its offensive line
being terrible because they are right now they can't block
anybody that he is not stepping in his throws, having
the right mechanics. And so for me just looking at CJ. Stroud,
is he still that good quarterback or has that capability? Yes,
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but if he doesn't correct it right now or they
fix it, they get him an old line that can
actually protect him, he's heading down that path. And so
the Texans they got a good coach and Demico Ryans
my high school teammate, so I know he'll have those
guys ready to play. But right now, I'm just worried
about c J. Stroud and him being falling victim to
the David Carsondrome.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Well, let me give you some of these numbers. Yeah,
and they're not pretty. Stroud's numbers are down across the
board since his Pro Bowl rookie season in twenty twenty three. Ready, Yeah, Yeah,
passing yards per game of going from two seventy three
to two nineteen to one ninety seven. His passer rating
has dropped from one hundred to eighty seven to eighty five.
(29:11):
And on the flip side, his sack percentage has jumped
up from seven to eight point nine to now ten
point five. That's what you were talking about with the sacks.
And I know that they had last year injuries and
they were missing people.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yes, but you come here as a game. You needed
to win that game yesterday, right, came out strong. Right,
you're at home.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
You want to be one in one. You don't want
to be in a hole. I think, is this rob
g five years of the road that they're oning two? No, no, no,
I saw something about them getting off to bad starts
Cincinnati usually Cincinnati's on too.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Now they started two and h last year. Yeah, okay, okay, they.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Started out last year five and one. Everybody's feeling real great?
Is that one that they finished.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Ten and seven?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
But if you remember.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Who was it through five interceptions against them from the Lions? Right?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Who golf golf through five interceptions and beat them? Do
you remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
They lost twenty six twenty three in that game five
and they won. The lines won that game, yeah, which
is insane.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Insane about the line that I didn't know what he
was talking about.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I'm like, I know who right what TV was talking about? No,
but they did.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I remember that game very very vividly, because you don't.
You don't throw five interceptions and won.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
A football game. It's just almost impossible.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Uh but where they go? Where are they? Who are they?
I know that you're your teammate from high school, Demico,
Demico coach, Yep, yeah, no, he's go ahead, Yeah, but
I'm just but I'm just saying, where where are they?
Because because they they don't seem to be the same
as two years ago?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
Right now, if you're on two, you're bad, So you're right.
But I'm saying, I know if anybody can get this
ship righted, Demko is that guy.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
And for C. J.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Stroud, I'm just worried about him because the protected it
because if he's protected, he can still make it through.
He's not a bad quarterback yet and he does not
suck yet. Rob the Texans suck.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, and he right away knew he goes. Oh, the
narrative about us is gonna be Yeah, there is a narrative.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yes, there is a narrative, and it's in the AFC South.
They're not out of it, so you got to think
about that as well.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, but how good are they? And I get I
get that you're gonna make the playoffs, But are you
beating anybody good?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Is my question to you.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Nah? Yeah, I don't feel like that. And it wasn't
that long ago where people were really hot. Yeah, And
and football is like that, adjustments and growing pains and
you get knocked down, you gotta come back. It's it's
it's it's not as easy as it looks. Okay, that's
the beautiful part about sports in general. Rob Like you
have to get knocked down. You got to understand how
(31:56):
how hard it is to get to that that pinnacle,
that that championship. I agree that everybody's trying to you know,
I guess reach for It just doesn't happen overnight. And
you have some guys that come in and have success
right away, but it's not always going to be that way.
And so for guys like CJ. Trial, it's this is
the time for them to actually talk about baseball, find
(32:18):
their off speed pitch because you're not gonna beat everybody
with fastballs.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
In the case of the Texans, I just I just
look at them and and that was par for the
course last night, Like really, like I just knew, like
when the when the Bucks were driving all these yeah,
I felt like they were gonna win that game and
it was gonna be another heartbreaking kind of situation, uh
(32:44):
for the Texans, who were the new hotness. I mean
they really were. I mean the buzz about them and
what they were doing with a young you know, new
coach and new quarterback and all these other pieces. People
are like and then they go out and add Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Well you know who that is?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Now?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
You know what team that is right now? What's that?
That's the Commander's that you're talking about right now? They
over a team in year one, oh no doubt. And
this year I've already told people pumped the brakes on
this year already coming into the season. But the same
thing you're saying right now, like when you look at
the I know I'm jumping to the Commanders, but when
you look at their roster, who on that roster scares you?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Right? You know you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like nobody but that's why that's such a bad loss
for the Lions.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Seriously, last year, Oh yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Have home field, you go fifteen and two, You got
a rookie quarter They were nine and a half point
favorites coming into that game that even with their secondary,
their defense banged up, Vegas still gave them.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That because they thought they would be an outscore.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Still nine point favorites, not in a half point favorites.
And that's what your defense banged up. That tells you.
But they didn't know that Jared Golf, I don't know
was going to have four and four turnovers.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You know, you said that's whole casual.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Then they know that Jared Golf or Jared Tennis. I
always say he turned into Jared Tennis.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
That's funny.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Why are you burying the lead right now? Ron, because
Carrie just had a major breakthrough at this moment.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
You heard that. What I was like, what he did
was you went full Rob Parker.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
You let us know across the national airwaves that Carry
don't like black quarterbacks either. All of a sudden, he
loves Rob, loves them all, Carry loves them all. Everybody
else can go whoa you don't like J. I didn't
I like c J is fine, he's just not playing well.
He would say he sucks, he's not playing well exactly.
He didn't even mention Jalen Hurts. So we're gonna you know,
(34:38):
I don't like JA. Now we're going down the list
should be together.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
That's gonna be racist at least. Rob Honesty, I don't
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