September 17, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin argue if Dave Roberts was wrong to pull Shohei Ohtani last night during a no-hitter. Plus, The Athletic NBA reporter Law Murray swings by to discuss the ongoing Kawhi Leonard investigation, the likelihood that Kawhi and the Los Angeles Clippers face any real discipline from the NBA, whether Adam Silver is prepared to tackle an investigation of this magnitude, and much more!
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do so, no doubt, Ay rob g.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
H There was some Dodger fans baseball fans who were
not happy with Dave Robbers.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Not just because the Dodgers blew up what early four
nothing lead against the Phillies they lose at home to Philadelphia,
but sho Hay was pitching and he had something nice
going to start the game.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
He had an't no hitter going, no, no, no. He
had only thrown sixty eight pitches now Otani since he's
started this season has never gone beyond five innings.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think that's been like a rule that they've had.
So that was it. He was behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So according to Roberts himself, he has show in between
the fifth and six and he's like, hey, how you
and Tony said, I'm good. We would assume then that
would mean you go out for the sixth inning. No,
nothing like that at all. Here's Dave Roberts after the
game explaining the decision to keep Otani glued to the
pine in the fifth.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Well, he wasn't going to go back out.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We haven't.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
We've been very steadfast in every situation as far as
inning for his usage from one inning to two innings
to three to four to five. We haven't deviated from that.
So I was trying to get his pulse on for
going forward where he's at continuing to go to the
sixth inning, and he says, be okay, and so that
was good, But I'm not going to have a you know,
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plan for five innings and then he pitches well and say, hey,
now you're going to go six innings, and then you know,
he's too important and if something does happen, then that's
on me for changing and we haven't done that all year,
so I'm not going to do that right now. So yeah,
I would have loved to have him go out there.
But if the conversation was if he's efficient, he can
go to this, that's a different conversation. But it was
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a hard five innings and that's just the way it goes,
and guys have got to do their jobs.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm sorry, like, like this is where, you know, can
we stop? Like do you remember a few years back
Clayton Kershaw had a perfect game going okay in the
seventh through seven innings and I think he only threw
eighty pitches. It was unbelievable, and the idea was, oh, no,
you know, we don't want them to get hurt. They
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took him out a perfect game, eighty pitches through seven.
Can he start the eighth inning? Can he walk somebody?
Can he give up ahead and then gladly.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He can come out? Okay? Yeah, why are you doing this?
You're playing your whole idea. Guess what.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They took Kershaw out because they didn't want him to
get They said they you know, they were monitoring him.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
They don't want to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Guess what, Kershaw still got hurt that year because because
him pitching another at batter or another inning is not
going to determine whether or not he's going to get hurt.
It's the same thing with Otani the other day when
they give up the no hitter in Baltimore. Yamamoto, Right,
he had thrown the most pitches he had thrown since
(05:17):
since joining the Dodgers. Why did they let he had
a no hitter? Let him finish it. Okay, gave up
the home run, he blew it. Whatever. The Dodgers wind
up actually losing that game, But my point is they
did go against what they were doing because he had
pitched the most pitches.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
He had ever done.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right, could you allow him to do something that's special?
Even if you let Showy come out in the sixth
inning and he gives up a head or he walks
somebody didn't. I have no problem with you coming out saying, Okay,
he's done. You know what I mean? He could be
doing something magical. I've been covering baseball for thirty nine years.
I think I've seen two no hitter, one perfect game,
(05:56):
like that's that's it. In thirty nine years. It doesn't
happened very often. It's still a magical special thing. Is
this the NBA? Now everything is about, Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
We again, we get hurt.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
You gotta be ready for the playoffs. Dude, stop it.
If he's gonna get hurt, he's gonna get heard. It's
not gonna be whether or not he pitched another inning
or two or gave up a hit because he pitched
into the seventh inning. This guy's the starting pitcher in
the big leagues. They've been babying he didn't pitch at
all last year. He didn't start the year pitching. He'd
been babying him for almost a year and a half.
(06:30):
Come on, now, okay, enough is enough? Why can't he
pitch more? And we keep cheating the baseball fans stop
taking our special moments from us.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's what they don't get.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I just told you I go to a ballpark a
million times, thirty nine years of covering, and I saw
one perfect game David Wells against the Minnesota Twins on
a Sunday at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I'll never forget it. I'm a rigger.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You remember that. That that was It was awesome. And
that's all I'm saying is why are we getting cheated?
As fans. If someone's doing something unique or special, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I'm gonna answer that question on the back end.
I'm gonna start with this specifically. I'm gonna start specifically
with the Dodgers. The Dodgers are a victim of their
own success. That is the issue that they're dealing with.
They've been so successful over the last ten years, as
far as winning the division, getting in the postseason, getting
into what full World Series in the last you know,
eight years or so, and winning to and in the
(07:32):
most recent uh. So I think the challenge with them
is they're a victim of their own success. Where now
they're at that place where if it ain't a World Series,
it don't even matter. You get, oh wow, you made
it to a walker, don't even matter you made the
divisional series, don't even championship series, don't did we win
the World Series. So they're not at that place where
they're just at a victim of their own success. So
which makes you start to do things based on that,
(07:55):
based on getting you back to the World Series. So
now let me go back to your question or your
statement of robbing fans. This is what happens when you
have analytics in the games Analytics is a machine. It
is AI, it is a chat GPT, CPT Compton out.
There's something and what it is is it has what is.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
What time I get to the stewish station have to
do with anything? I just don't understand you right now.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You can't say stuff like that right now. Okay, so
you can't say that like that right now. We have
some sensitive times.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Right Rob g Yeah we could say CP time. I
can't say M time. No right, no, you can't. Well,
I get in trouble if I say that. No, because
you're talking about mountain time. Yeah, that's why I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
A mountain time. I got your back. Look, give me some,
give me some, give me some that I got your
back mountain time.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now Alex is just shaking it. Alex, are you all
right over there? He's got over there and make nervous
for you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Now, I bring up the analytics to say, that's just
where we are now, Rob where everything Look at, this
is what happens. They put the sheet already out. Here's
every scenario. Here's what you're gonna do, skipper fill in
the blank. They ain't robbers anybody. Here's what we're gonna do.
This is the game plan. Don't deviate, don't do this,
gone o. The days when you've been covering this, when
(09:06):
I had a hunch, my gut told me this, I
had an inkling something told me, you know, I felt it. Intwitter,
my intuition said, no, here's the sheet, here's what we're
gonna do. Stick by this because analytics say if X,
Y and Z, this will happen. Analytics say X Y Z,
And it's robbed us of those moments where you say,
you know what, hey, hey, hey, hey skipper, and you say, nah,
(09:30):
let him go, let them go. Let's enjoy these moments,
because that's what sports is about. The time you saw
a guy get four home runs in the game, the
guy you saw you saw you know so and so
Brett far throw five touchdowns in the first half for
his father pass. The time you saw Michael Jordan with
the flugt can he looked too sick. Pull him out exactly.
You know what, don't play him, Mike, don't you come
sit down. You get these magical moments. Hey, Isaiah Thomas,
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your ankle is broken and you're playing against the Lakers.
You put up twenty five in the third quarter, could
have no sit them down. We get robbed of these
moments because of dagone machines and a bunch of nerds
that happened to leave the business sector in it sector
and jump into sports. Dan you you nerds, Robbins of
amazing moments. I agree as revenge of the Nerds, like
(10:13):
the movie in the eighties.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It just doesn't make any sense to me, Like like you,
with all that we talked about it earlier, even with
low management, guess what.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Guys still get hurt.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right with all this idea of not playing people and
all that, and it had that hadn't stopped Kawhi from
being injured again or stop other players, Kyrie, Like like
the whole notion of it doesn't even make sense. There
isn't any data to or to justify the actions. There's
no data. Just like I told you about Clayton Kershaw.
(10:49):
Oh yeah, well, seventh thinning. We don't want him to
get hurt. We know we want him to the whole year.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
He still got hurt that year, even though you.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Took him out after the seventh inning with a with
a perfect game and eighty eighty pitches, like he wasn't
over like you're overdoing.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It eighty is a lot. Nowadays eighty eighty is holy
what easy eighty? I mean he was mowing him down
a perfect game. No, let me walk the first guy
to seventh in the eighth and then you could take
me back.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Let me give up a hit.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Seventies, eighties, nineties pictures, you would have had to, you
had to fight for that ball down.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
The manager wouldn't even come out.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Hey, man, here right now. And nowadays, again it's just
a system. It's systematic. We already know we're gonna do.
Once you get here. You're not going over sixty picture
because technically, and this is your fifth week of d
DA DA and our plan is this, and our plan
is that. And the only thing I will say specifically
specifically for the show, Hey conversation, One thing I do
agree with is that when it comes to him, if
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he were to get hurt, you don't just lose a
picture for a week, two weeks, a month. You lose
a potential DH, a pitcher and a potential outfielder because
they've talked about through how to rule, and if he pitches, well,
he can't come out the game, so you have to
put them put him on the defense. So you pose
the potential that with him, I'm only using him different
than any other guy.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
He's a multi layered I get.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
But you could be heard under any short he got
hurt last year in the World Series, like you could
get heard. This whole notion that you're gonna prevent someone
from getting heard by because he didn't pitch the seventh
inning or any of running hard the first choices, that's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like that happens, like you can't.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
There is no magic formula to say if you don't
pitch him in the sixth inning of a no hitter
or a seventh inning, he'll be healthy the rest of
the year.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
If you could give me that, that's different. But that's
not what he happened. That's where I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The problem is the nerds are doing the mathematical equations
and they say, if he has x amount of pitches
per inning of the nine starts of the tenth, then
they do all the math and then they come up
with a formula and it's formulaic. And you know what
comes to formula boring, And you know what baseball became
handfull of years ago boring because it was strikeout or
home run. That's all it was. Nobody was trying to
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do advanced runners. Nobody was still in bases. No guys
were just you know, you know who I sit next
to when I do Dodger games, and sitting next to
Nomar and Adrian and Zaliz and Jerry Harrison.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Hearing these guys talking about just.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Just put ball, but barrel on ball and just get
and get in there. You never know what happened. Quit
swinging for the fences every time. And it got boring. Thankfully,
it's changing. The brand of baseball's gotten a little bit better.
And you know what happy, Well, technically running hurt. So
you can have multiple running backs, you can have three
running backs. You don't have to do it doesn't matter
if you have a star running back and you could
just pass it. Football got a little boring. Now it's
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mixed up again. You got runners again, Derrick Kennedy, McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley,
you're getting runners again and Taylor and so to me,
it just gott formulated.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Just pass it, because technically a pass is better than
a run.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Stop putting too much to remember there's an entertainment value
in sports, and I think we've forgotten that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, there you go, and you've forgotten that part of swathing.
It ain't just about wall. Let's wait till the postseason.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
People paying money to go to game to be entertained,
and you're taking away these moments, all right?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Eight seven seven.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine. Did Dave Roberts do the right
thing by pulling o'tawi in the middle of a no hitter?
Or did he rob baseball fans of potentially a historic moment.
We'll continue this conversation next with you. It is the
odd Couple on a worship Wednesday here on Fox Sports Radio,
Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington.
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Stick and stay if you think Dave Roberts should be
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
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Wait till you at least get home. We don't need
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you to have them right now?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Uh, Dave Roberts
pulled show heil Tani. He was going for a no
hitter and no no hitt threw through five, pulled him
right move, wrong move, and just overall, are you tired
of the way baseball is treating these magical moments as
mer rob and I are eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Who we got Let's go with Andre in Massachusetts. You're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Draight?
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Hey, how you doing? Thanks for taking the call. This
is the absolute wrong move in terms of Dave Roberts,
in terms of baseball, it's a miscarriage of justice and
I'm through with it. We need actual penalties for these infractions.
Meaning I'm not opposed to throwing Dave Roberts in there
with Bud Croftford what if.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
But say he's a foot belt to add.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Okay, they need they need to come down on these
folks because listen, it's absolutely preposterous all of this worry
about the injuries and if you throw this pitch versus
that pitch, that's when the injuries come.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
Listen, we know that show.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Hey, he has his issues, you have to monitor him.
But when somebody's doing something historic at the end of it, right,
it's entertainment, Okay, right, it's aff the television show. People
need these storylines, they need these narratives, and we're on
the verge of seeing something that's something distinctive, something singular,
that people want to see and are willing to pay
money to see, and they stop it. It just drives.
(17:35):
It's just bad across the board. And I don't care
what the number crunchries say. So Dave Roberts, you're getting some,
but more overly, it's just his analytics and these people
in boardrooms. You know, they don't determine how the sports
should be played. It should be from the individuals and
the fans. You's got to stop.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Thanks taking Nicoll, no appreciate it. Uh, Jay in Georgia,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
What's up, Jay?
Speaker 9 (18:00):
We're going on run, We're going on kivving?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
What up Jake?
Speaker 10 (18:04):
First of all, rub I was listening in last night
and y'all was talking about the baseball moves up.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
All time, and it made me sick to my.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
Plmit they y'alled Mitchell Angels in the our field, man.
That was a classic while I was growing up, and.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I wasn't here a good good call by not mentioning that, Yeah, sorry,
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'm glad you left.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm glad you left that off. Ain't y'all better said Sandlot?
I wasn't here? Did they say Sandlot?
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Yeah? I think somebody did.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
All right, because y'all didn't say Sandlot.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was gonna boy while I was gonna getting the
Lord and then go back in time and slap somebody.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
But this show, hey thing, man, I'm so tired of
the anlited nerves rowing in our sport, man, the sport
that I love. Can you imagine saying three four hundred dollars,
thinking you about to see something memorial, think you about
to see something special? And then you know they pull them,
they yank them like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, it really.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Rob.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
You know, I'm a I'm a huge Brave fan. You
know we had grid Man, Tom Glam and just most
solid at the same time. And to not be got
with complete games all the time. He never got hurt
at they're all time great fully need guy, So hey
make it seven hundred millions, like you've ever tried to
get ever seen that you can't.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
And the thing is, it's not if he's gonna get hurt,
Thanks for the call, Jay, Nigga's gonna get hurt. Like
I'm serious, Like if there's something wrong with his arm,
then he shouldn't be pitching. If you can't pitch him,
My goodness, he got through five innings.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I just don't understand allow for magical things to happen.
That's the reason why when you were in a six
year old boy, you loved baseball, When you were a
six seven, eight year old kid, you loved the basket
because you saw something you thought you'd never see. I
legitimately thought Barry Sanders was not from Earth when I
was a kid, because I saw stuff you never thought
you'd see. And I was like Wow, this dude is
(19:54):
and that's what makes the minds winning the super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
No, I didn't see that, That's what I'm saying. You
did not.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I did not see that. I don't know what I
would do, Kevin. I literally what I would know That
day is gonna come.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
One day hopefully I'll be on the radio and I
will be with do you want to be alive or
do you want to be if I.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Want to be alive? For that, I don't know, to
be honest, you.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Know, you know what I hate is when you said
I'd rather be not alive because their lives is man,
Robert Lee Parker in this casket, all the lives just
want to super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You'd rather be in the castle. It's hilarious. Ke Kevin,
I should say, go over the idea of it? Got
your show? Did you're on the couple of Fox Sport drenks?
Because I didn't think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I would hear my left piggy and toe and left
pigky finger for that to happen, just for you to
be alive, Kevin?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
What's up? Bud Man all the time?
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Yes, here, I got two words for you. Load management.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Dave Roberts tacked his hand before the game.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
He said, we're gonna see.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
What happens after innings, and he took him out.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Why did he do that? Because Tony's gonna be the
Dodger's high leverage.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Leaver in the playoffs, and with injuries to Blake Snell
and Tyler Glass now with armist.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Comfort, he's just scared.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
He shore at this point, and I understand your side
of it. I wonder to see the know here he
had yamamoo.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Pitch pitchers to go for no yes.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
And I think at this point he just doesn't want
to mess with Otani because Otani's the key of the
Dodgers in.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
The world season.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
They don't have Otanian high leverage to pitch any seven, eight,
and nineteen. I hear you, Kevin, folder he's got a
pitches Can I say.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Can I say this to you, Kevin?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Him not pitching right after sixty eight pitches and five
through five innings, which is super efficient, doesn't mean the
next time he goes out there he can't fiell the
Twins in the first inning or second inning? Do you
understand what I'm saying? Like you cannot prevent that. But
because he didn't pitch the sixth inning yesterday like that.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
You agree with you, I agree with you. But I
think the Dodgers.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
All season have been lower management. They've been put guys
out the rotation and lineup, and it's cost in the season.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
With a lot of Yeah, and that's and that's a
great part. I'm glad you mentioned that, Kevin. I'm glad
you mentioned that, Kevin, that that some of this, some
of these decisions have hurt them and lost the games
because the bullpenys, specifically closers have been been so awful. Uh,
and it's cost them some games. But yeah, man, you
got let us see some great stuff, you know, that's
what makes sports amazing. We want to see those you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Said about the Lions winning or whatever. I want to.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It's funny because it was a DJ in New York
on w b LS. His name is Frankie Crocker, and
he used to sign off on the radio every Now
he's long gone, but he was tremendous, like a big
time DJ. And his old saying was, may you live
like to close every show. May you live to be
one hundred and me one hundred minus a day. So
(22:49):
I don't know that good friends like you had passed away,
and I just thought about you know what I.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Mean, like the Lions things.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So you can have your Lion super Bowl and yeah
the day before so so I don't think everybody in
the best part, you know what, Rob g it doesn't
matter what it could be like I'll be ninety five
and you know what people would say, I told you you.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Couldn't go nowhere. I told you can't go nowhere. I
don't win a super Bowl. The best part of.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
This would be, let's say Rob was you know, it
was looking like the end, but he was still still
was still coherent, and he was sitting in the bed
and he beep bet and the Lions won the Super
Bowl and I get to come. I'll tell your hospital
room and be like Rob whisper in your ear.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Hi, yes you may see your thank you nurse. The
Lion just wanted let me say something.
Speaker 11 (23:33):
If they if they were leading with two minutes to go,
that would be I would kick out the I would
kick out.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
The plug on my I would out the plug myself,
so man would be his I'm not a Komorkian.
Speaker 11 (23:49):
I'm gonna kick out the plug. Alex, wait a minute,
two minute warning the Lions are up by eleven. Oh
my god, I'm gonna kick the plug out so I
won't have to see the final Elijah chopped that up.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I need that. Oh shoot that man over like wait
the Lions. It looks like the lines they go, how
you're gonna pull out your own life? All right? I'm
crying right now, Martin? What's trending? Oh shoot? What if
at the funeral they.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Throw like an Eddie Murphy Beverly Hills cop Detroit Lions
jacket in the ground as they're throwing the turner, you
feel you come back out.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
They better not throw that jacket in.
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Joining us now, our guy law Murray covers the NBA
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Speaker 3 (25:14):
X Law with that brother, how you.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Man you killed that tromo? He was like, shit, what
what did you say?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I was talking like that? What's talking about? Icy hot?
That what you're saying out here in these streets and.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Competition?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He leave, Hey, listen as long as they got some checks.
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Rob and I talked about law Man. We talked about listening.
You know what the biggest the news right now surrounding
the Clippers. Just just kind of walk us through what
you know and what the latest is, uh, the report
around that, how Kawhi Leonard and some of the things
Uncle Dennis has asked for kind of all this kind
of backtracking has happened, the things that happened over the
last you know, sixty seven years as he's been there.
Speaker 12 (25:56):
I mean, y'all see what it is like, Why be
Kauhi gonna get that money?
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Family? Go and make sure you get that money. Like,
that's pretty much what it is. I thought I was
talking to somebody.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
I was like, why, it's about two things. He's about
championships and he about getting paid. And unfortunately for the Clippers,
they ain't got the championship yet, but they've been paying
it and that's what we're talking about here. So I
don't think it's really that complicated. Like the Clippers has.
Speaker 13 (26:30):
Been committed to Kawhi in ways that probably compromise a
whole lot of other things as far as having a
functional organization, and because of the way Kawhi and his
people move like, it.
Speaker 12 (26:47):
Doesn't come up that much. And unfortunately, why has it
played the amount of games where it's a topic the
conversation all the time, Like everyone focused for the most
part over these last six years over Kui's availability. But now, ironically,
at a time where Kawhi' had his healthiest offseason, here
(27:07):
we are about the start training camp and we're talking
about Colia's money situation and how that might affect the
Clippers in the negative way. It's funny how things work out.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, what do you expect to really happen?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
The commissioner sound sounded noncommittal, really like about it, talking
about the burden of proof and whatnot. It did sound
like I just don't expect anything major with Steve Balmer.
And unless they have some memo like they had with
the Timberwolves or when Baseball had collusion where there was
an actual memo or paperwork, what do you expect to
(27:44):
be the ultimate?
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Hey, Robie, you remember the minutes of the thing. And
the thing about what happened in two thousands of the
Timberwolves is those jokers actually had signed contracts right for
the future. Maybe, Like Joe Smith was the number one
overall pick of the nineteen ninety five NBA draft, He
got traded in his third season right before the lockout
(28:09):
through my city Philadelphia, and then he signs an incredibly
eye raising one year deal with Minnesota. He signed that
same deal the following off season, and then he signed
the same deal the two thousand off season and his
agents had a falling out, And that's how the discovery
led to these documents that I was like, oh, y'are
about to pay Joe Smith? Would be would work just
(28:30):
after you got the bird race. There's none of that
with Kawhi. Like Hawhi again, let's go back to our
original theme. Kawhi got paid Kawhi and exactly take pay
cuts with the Clippers. He's always had this high level
leverage and Rob, I don't think anybody's going to be
satisfied with the penalties that will come to the Clippers.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
Now.
Speaker 12 (28:51):
Looks the NBA's tired of these dudes, So this is
going to be something.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
It's just that there's something.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
It ain't going to hurt the Clippers unless it's something
that compromises what the Clippers really are trying to do,
and that is, ironically move on from this era that
has failed and seen their kimpionship windows shut unless you're
doing something that affects that. And the Commissioner, all he
has really said is he has broad powers and that
(29:17):
he is fit to use them. It's like the Commissioner
also works for all thirty owners, including Steve Varmer. That's
what I'm I'm with you on a conflict of visort.
That's why there's going to be an arbitrator. And that's
why when these penalties.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Come down, don't expect anyone to.
Speaker 12 (29:34):
Be happy with them, because if the Clippers really got hammered,
then what's going to happen. Pender's box is already opened
on the Clippers and their things. It's going to flip
and all these other owners are going to be like,
oh snap, you don't want y'all digging into ourselves too,
And that is going to be a possibility, depending on
what the penalties are as well.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Law Murray comes the NBA for the Athletic over the ACAPA.
Robin Kevin on the worship Wednesday. I'm gonna go a
little broader than this, just the NBA as a whole.
Right now, if you're Adam silver Man, you got this
gambling stuff that keeps popping up, and then which is
going on. As soon as it pops up, they somehow
pop they you know, it goes away just right when
the other literally on the exact same day, Terry Roseire
is cleared, Malie Beasley comes out, and then now you
(30:17):
got this scandal, you got the ratings conversations, you got
the All Star Game not being on what what?
Speaker 8 (30:22):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
How do you think Adam silver fields when he's going
to bed right now with the state of.
Speaker 12 (30:26):
The NBA, I feel like Adams silver is used to this,
Like Adam silver has been commissioner since twenty fourteen, and
before that he worked two decades seeing David's stern handle
things the way he handled them. You know, I mean,
there's a lot of issues with the NBA, but there's
also a lot of other things that it's like, we're
(30:47):
going people are fipple with their attention expans and I
feel like Adam Silver is trying to take advantage of that.
I feel like Adam Silver is going to be like,
y'all gonna watch ball and we're gonna do what we
gotta do, and y'all are gonna playing about some things,
but at the end of the day, you're gonna watch ball.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But but you know what they say that.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
But it's not I mean, and I get it. You
can sign the biggest TV contracts and all that and
the money, but the viewership, as we saw the lowest
rated h for an NBA finals, And this is other
than the you know, the twenty twenty that year or
whatever I mean, COVID year. Other than that, those are
those are distressing. And the NBA All Star Game, which
(31:28):
is supposed to be a showcase, and even the league
went out of its way to say that all the
ratings and they were trying to make excuses. And then
when Game seven got good ratings, what did they do
put out a press release about how good the ratings are.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And my point is the ratings do matter, otherwise you
want to put out a press release for it.
Speaker 12 (31:46):
Of course, there's always gonna be a spinny, like you're
always gonna say this is the most watched Tuesday right.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
In three months.
Speaker 12 (31:55):
Like there's always gonna be that. There's always going to
be the people who say, hey, if our ratings are bad,
it's because the streaming is up.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Well, guess what the.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
NBA is doing now. They have active streaming partners that
are putting on national exclusive, national good law. You know
what I'm saying, Like, it's won't be it's won't be
tithing brod and you're gonna have to readjust the passwords.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It ain't gonna happen. I don't have that much money.
I can't get nine different streaming you know what I mean.
I need too many spaces.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
I got.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I got my prime, So I'm good with that. Man's
like too many pluses. Everybody got a plus right now,
you probably got a law murey plus. My goodness, law man,
appreciate you.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
Wait, my prize Man, no.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Doubt I appreciate you as always man. Yep, all right,
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Speaker 4 (02:16):
H There was some Dodger fans baseball fans who were
not happy with Dave Robbers.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Last night.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Not just because the Dodgers blew up what early four
nothing lead against the Phillies they lose at home to Philadelphia,
but sho Hay was pitching and he had something nice
going to start the game.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
He had an't no hitter going, no, no, no. He
had only thrown sixty eight pitches now Otani since he's
started this season has never gone beyond five innings.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I think that's been like a rule that they've had.
So that was it. He was behind the scenes.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
So according to Roberts himself, he has show in between
the fifth and six and he's like, hey, how you
and Tony said, I'm good. We would assume then that
would mean you go out for the sixth inning. No,
nothing like that at all. Here's Dave Roberts after the
game explaining the decision to keep Otani glued to the
pine in the fifth.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Well, he wasn't going to go back out.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We haven't.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
We've been very steadfast in every situation as far as
inning for his usage from one inning to two innings
to three to four to five. We haven't deviated from that.
So I was trying to get his pulse on for
going forward where he's at continuing to go to the
sixth inning, and he says, be okay, and so that
was good, But I'm not going to have a you know,
(03:40):
plan for five innings and then he pitches well and say, hey,
now you're going to go six innings, and then you know,
he's too important and if something does happen, then that's
on me for changing and we haven't done that all year,
so I'm not going to do that right now. So yeah,
I would have loved to have him go out there.
But if the conversation was if he's efficient, he can
go to this, that's a different conversation. But it was
(04:02):
a hard five innings and that's just the way it goes,
and guys have got to do their jobs.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm sorry, like, like this is where, you know, can
we stop? Like do you remember a few years back
Clayton Kershaw had a perfect game going okay in the
seventh through seven innings and I think he only threw
eighty pitches. It was unbelievable, and the idea was, oh, no,
you know, we don't want them to get hurt. They
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took him out a perfect game, eighty pitches through seven.
Can he start the eighth inning? Can he walk somebody?
Can he give up ahead and then gladly.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
He can come out? Okay? Yeah, why are you doing this?
You're playing your whole idea. Guess what.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
They took Kershaw out because they didn't want him to
get They said they you know, they were monitoring him.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
They don't want to get hurt.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Guess what, Kershaw still got hurt that year because because
him pitching another at batter or another inning is not
going to determine whether or not he's going to get hurt.
It's the same thing with Otani the other day when
they give up the no hitter in Baltimore. Yamamoto, Right,
he had thrown the most pitches he had thrown since
(05:17):
since joining the Dodgers. Why did they let he had
a no hitter? Let him finish it. Okay, gave up
the home run, he blew it. Whatever. The Dodgers wind
up actually losing that game, But my point is they
did go against what they were doing because he had
pitched the most pitches.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
He had ever done.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Right, could you allow him to do something that's special?
Even if you let Showy come out in the sixth
inning and he gives up a head or he walks
somebody didn't. I have no problem with you coming out saying, Okay,
he's done. You know what I mean? He could be
doing something magical. I've been covering baseball for thirty nine years.
I think I've seen two no hitter, one perfect game,
(05:56):
like that's that's it. In thirty nine years. It doesn't
happened very often. It's still a magical special thing. Is
this the NBA? Now everything is about, Oh.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
We again, we get hurt.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
You gotta be ready for the playoffs. Dude, stop it.
If he's gonna get hurt, he's gonna get heard. It's
not gonna be whether or not he pitched another inning
or two or gave up a hit because he pitched
into the seventh inning. This guy's the starting pitcher in
the big leagues. They've been babying he didn't pitch at
all last year. He didn't start the year pitching. He'd
been babying him for almost a year and a half.
(06:30):
Come on, now, okay, enough is enough? Why can't he
pitch more? And we keep cheating the baseball fans stop
taking our special moments from us.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's what they don't get.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I just told you I go to a ballpark a
million times, thirty nine years of covering, and I saw
one perfect game David Wells against the Minnesota Twins on
a Sunday at Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I'll never forget it. I'm a rigger.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You remember that. That that was It was awesome. And
that's all I'm saying is why are we getting cheated?
As fans. If someone's doing something unique or special, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So I'm gonna answer that question on the back end.
I'm gonna start with this specifically. I'm gonna start specifically
with the Dodgers. The Dodgers are a victim of their
own success. That is the issue that they're dealing with.
They've been so successful over the last ten years, as
far as winning the division, getting in the postseason, getting
into what full World Series in the last you know,
eight years or so, and winning to and in the
(07:32):
most recent uh. So I think the challenge with them
is they're a victim of their own success. Where now
they're at that place where if it ain't a World Series,
it don't even matter. You get, oh wow, you made
it to a walker, don't even matter you made the
divisional series, don't even championship series, don't did we win
the World Series. So they're not at that place where
they're just at a victim of their own success. So
which makes you start to do things based on that,
(07:55):
based on getting you back to the World Series. So
now let me go back to your question or your
statement of robbing fans. This is what happens when you
have analytics in the games Analytics is a machine. It
is AI, it is a chat GPT, CPT Compton out.
There's something and what it is is it has what is.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
What time I get to the stewish station have to
do with anything? I just don't understand you right now.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You can't say stuff like that right now. Okay, so
you can't say that like that right now. We have
some sensitive times.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Right Rob g Yeah we could say CP time. I
can't say M time. No right, no, you can't. Well,
I get in trouble if I say that. No, because
you're talking about mountain time. Yeah, that's why I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
A mountain time. I got your back. Look, give me some,
give me some, give me some that I got your
back mountain time.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now Alex is just shaking it. Alex, are you all
right over there? He's got over there and make nervous
for you.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Now, I bring up the analytics to say, that's just
where we are now, Rob where everything Look at, this
is what happens. They put the sheet already out. Here's
every scenario. Here's what you're gonna do, skipper fill in
the blank. They ain't robbers anybody. Here's what we're gonna do.
This is the game plan. Don't deviate, don't do this,
gone o. The days when you've been covering this, when
(09:06):
I had a hunch, my gut told me this, I
had an inkling something told me, you know, I felt it. Intwitter,
my intuition said, no, here's the sheet, here's what we're
gonna do. Stick by this because analytics say if X,
Y and Z, this will happen. Analytics say X Y Z,
And it's robbed us of those moments where you say,
you know what, hey, hey, hey, hey skipper, and you say, nah,
(09:30):
let him go, let them go. Let's enjoy these moments,
because that's what sports is about. The time you saw
a guy get four home runs in the game, the
guy you saw you saw you know so and so
Brett far throw five touchdowns in the first half for
his father pass. The time you saw Michael Jordan with
the flugt can he looked too sick. Pull him out exactly.
You know what, don't play him, Mike, don't you come
sit down. You get these magical moments. Hey, Isaiah Thomas,
(09:53):
your ankle is broken and you're playing against the Lakers.
You put up twenty five in the third quarter, could
have no sit them down. We get robbed of these
moments because of dagone machines and a bunch of nerds
that happened to leave the business sector in it sector
and jump into sports. Dan you you nerds, Robbins of
amazing moments. I agree as revenge of the Nerds, like
(10:13):
the movie in the eighties.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It just doesn't make any sense to me, Like like you,
with all that we talked about it earlier, even with
low management, guess what.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Guys still get hurt.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Right with all this idea of not playing people and
all that, and it had that hadn't stopped Kawhi from
being injured again or stop other players, Kyrie, Like like
the whole notion of it doesn't even make sense. There
isn't any data to or to justify the actions. There's
no data. Just like I told you about Clayton Kershaw.
(10:49):
Oh yeah, well, seventh thinning. We don't want him to
get hurt. We know we want him to the whole year.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
He still got hurt that year, even though you.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Took him out after the seventh inning with a with
a perfect game and eighty eighty pitches, like he wasn't
over like you're overdoing.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It eighty is a lot. Nowadays eighty eighty is holy
what easy eighty? I mean he was mowing him down
a perfect game. No, let me walk the first guy
to seventh in the eighth and then you could take
me back.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Let me give up a hit.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Seventies, eighties, nineties pictures, you would have had to, you
had to fight for that ball down.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
The manager wouldn't even come out.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Hey, man, here right now. And nowadays, again it's just
a system. It's systematic. We already know we're gonna do.
Once you get here. You're not going over sixty picture
because technically, and this is your fifth week of d
DA DA and our plan is this, and our plan
is that. And the only thing I will say specifically
specifically for the show, Hey conversation, One thing I do
agree with is that when it comes to him, if
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he were to get hurt, you don't just lose a
picture for a week, two weeks, a month. You lose
a potential DH, a pitcher and a potential outfielder because
they've talked about through how to rule, and if he pitches, well,
he can't come out the game, so you have to
put them put him on the defense. So you pose
the potential that with him, I'm only using him different
than any other guy.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
He's a multi layered I get.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
But you could be heard under any short he got
hurt last year in the World Series, like you could
get heard. This whole notion that you're gonna prevent someone
from getting heard by because he didn't pitch the seventh
inning or any of running hard the first choices, that's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like that happens, like you can't.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
There is no magic formula to say if you don't
pitch him in the sixth inning of a no hitter
or a seventh inning, he'll be healthy the rest of
the year.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
If you could give me that, that's different. But that's
not what he happened. That's where I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The problem is the nerds are doing the mathematical equations
and they say, if he has x amount of pitches
per inning of the nine starts of the tenth, then
they do all the math and then they come up
with a formula and it's formulaic. And you know what
comes to formula boring, And you know what baseball became
handfull of years ago boring because it was strikeout or
home run. That's all it was. Nobody was trying to
(13:04):
do advanced runners. Nobody was still in bases. No guys
were just you know, you know who I sit next
to when I do Dodger games, and sitting next to
Nomar and Adrian and Zaliz and Jerry Harrison.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Hearing these guys talking about just.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Just put ball, but barrel on ball and just get
and get in there. You never know what happened. Quit
swinging for the fences every time. And it got boring. Thankfully,
it's changing. The brand of baseball's gotten a little bit better.
And you know what happy, Well, technically running hurt. So
you can have multiple running backs, you can have three
running backs. You don't have to do it doesn't matter
if you have a star running back and you could
just pass it. Football got a little boring. Now it's
(13:35):
mixed up again. You got runners again, Derrick Kennedy, McCaffrey, Jacobs, Barkley,
you're getting runners again and Taylor and so to me,
it just gott formulated.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Just pass it, because technically a pass is better than
a run.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Stop putting too much to remember there's an entertainment value
in sports, and I think we've forgotten that.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, there you go, and you've forgotten that part of swathing.
It ain't just about wall. Let's wait till the postseason.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
People paying money to go to game to be entertained,
and you're taking away these moments, all right?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Eight seven seven.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six
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thing by pulling o'tawi in the middle of a no hitter?
Or did he rob baseball fans of potentially a historic moment.
We'll continue this conversation next with you. It is the
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
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(16:15):
you to have them right now?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Uh, Dave Roberts
pulled show heil Tani. He was going for a no
hitter and no no hitt threw through five, pulled him
right move, wrong move, and just overall, are you tired
of the way baseball is treating these magical moments as
mer rob and I are eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Who we got Let's go with Andre in Massachusetts. You're
on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Draight?
Speaker 7 (16:42):
Hey, how you doing? Thanks for taking the call. This
is the absolute wrong move in terms of Dave Roberts,
in terms of baseball, it's a miscarriage of justice and
I'm through with it. We need actual penalties for these infractions.
Meaning I'm not opposed to throwing Dave Roberts in there
with Bud Croftford what if.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
But say he's a foot belt to add.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Okay, they need they need to come down on these
folks because listen, it's absolutely preposterous all of this worry
about the injuries and if you throw this pitch versus
that pitch, that's when the injuries come.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
Listen, we know that show.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Hey, he has his issues, you have to monitor him.
But when somebody's doing something historic at the end of it, right,
it's entertainment, Okay, right, it's aff the television show. People
need these storylines, they need these narratives, and we're on
the verge of seeing something that's something distinctive, something singular,
that people want to see and are willing to pay
money to see, and they stop it. It just drives.
(17:35):
It's just bad across the board. And I don't care
what the number crunchries say. So Dave Roberts, you're getting some,
but more overly, it's just his analytics and these people
in boardrooms. You know, they don't determine how the sports
should be played. It should be from the individuals and
the fans. You's got to stop.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Thanks taking Nicoll, no appreciate it. Uh, Jay in Georgia,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
What's up, Jay?
Speaker 9 (18:00):
We're going on run, We're going on kivving?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
What up Jake?
Speaker 10 (18:04):
First of all, rub I was listening in last night
and y'all was talking about the baseball moves up.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
All time, and it made me sick to my.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
Plmit they y'alled Mitchell Angels in the our field, man.
That was a classic while I was growing up, and.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I wasn't here a good good call by not mentioning that, Yeah, sorry,
I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'm glad you left.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm glad you left that off. Ain't y'all better said Sandlot?
I wasn't here? Did they say Sandlot?
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Yeah? I think somebody did.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
All right, because y'all didn't say Sandlot.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was gonna boy while I was gonna getting the
Lord and then go back in time and slap somebody.
Speaker 10 (18:36):
But this show, hey thing, man, I'm so tired of
the anlited nerves rowing in our sport, man, the sport
that I love. Can you imagine saying three four hundred dollars,
thinking you about to see something memorial, think you about
to see something special? And then you know they pull them,
they yank them like that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, it really.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Rob.
Speaker 10 (18:59):
You know, I'm a I'm a huge Brave fan. You
know we had grid Man, Tom Glam and just most
solid at the same time. And to not be got
with complete games all the time. He never got hurt
at they're all time great fully need guy, So hey
make it seven hundred millions, like you've ever tried to
get ever seen that you can't.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
And the thing is, it's not if he's gonna get hurt,
Thanks for the call, Jay, Nigga's gonna get hurt. Like
I'm serious, Like if there's something wrong with his arm,
then he shouldn't be pitching. If you can't pitch him,
My goodness, he got through five innings.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
I just don't understand allow for magical things to happen.
That's the reason why when you were in a six
year old boy, you loved baseball, When you were a
six seven, eight year old kid, you loved the basket
because you saw something you thought you'd never see. I
legitimately thought Barry Sanders was not from Earth when I
was a kid, because I saw stuff you never thought
you'd see. And I was like Wow, this dude is
(19:54):
and that's what makes the minds winning the super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
No, I didn't see that, That's what I'm saying. You
did not.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I did not see that. I don't know what I
would do, Kevin. I literally what I would know That
day is gonna come.
Speaker 11 (20:04):
One day hopefully I'll be on the radio and I
will be with do you want to be alive or
do you want to be if I.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Want to be alive? For that, I don't know, to
be honest, you.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Know, you know what I hate is when you said
I'd rather be not alive because their lives is man,
Robert Lee Parker in this casket, all the lives just
want to super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You'd rather be in the castle. It's hilarious. Ke Kevin,
I should say, go over the idea of it? Got
your show? Did you're on the couple of Fox Sport drenks?
Because I didn't think about it.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I would hear my left piggy and toe and left
pigky finger for that to happen, just for you to
be alive, Kevin?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
What's up? Bud Man all the time?
Speaker 9 (20:49):
Yes, here, I got two words for you. Load management.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
Dave Roberts tacked his hand before the game.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
He said, we're gonna see.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
What happens after innings, and he took him out.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Why did he do that? Because Tony's gonna be the
Dodger's high leverage.
Speaker 8 (21:03):
Leaver in the playoffs, and with injuries to Blake Snell
and Tyler Glass now with armist.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Comfort, he's just scared.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
He shore at this point, and I understand your side
of it. I wonder to see the know here he
had yamamoo.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Pitch pitchers to go for no yes.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
And I think at this point he just doesn't want
to mess with Otani because Otani's the key of the
Dodgers in.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
The world season.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
They don't have Otanian high leverage to pitch any seven, eight,
and nineteen. I hear you, Kevin, folder he's got a
pitches Can I say.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Can I say this to you, Kevin?
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Him not pitching right after sixty eight pitches and five
through five innings, which is super efficient, doesn't mean the
next time he goes out there he can't fiell the
Twins in the first inning or second inning? Do you
understand what I'm saying? Like you cannot prevent that. But
because he didn't pitch the sixth inning yesterday like that.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
You agree with you, I agree with you. But I
think the Dodgers.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
All season have been lower management. They've been put guys
out the rotation and lineup, and it's cost in the season.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
With a lot of Yeah, and that's and that's a
great part. I'm glad you mentioned that, Kevin. I'm glad
you mentioned that, Kevin, that that some of this, some
of these decisions have hurt them and lost the games
because the bullpenys, specifically closers have been been so awful. Uh,
and it's cost them some games. But yeah, man, you
got let us see some great stuff, you know, that's
what makes sports amazing. We want to see those you.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Said about the Lions winning or whatever. I want to.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
It's funny because it was a DJ in New York
on w b LS. His name is Frankie Crocker, and
he used to sign off on the radio every Now
he's long gone, but he was tremendous, like a big
time DJ. And his old saying was, may you live
like to close every show. May you live to be
one hundred and me one hundred minus a day. So
(22:49):
I don't know that good friends like you had passed away,
and I just thought about you know what I.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Mean, like the Lions things.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So you can have your Lion super Bowl and yeah
the day before so so I don't think everybody in
the best part, you know what, Rob g it doesn't
matter what it could be like I'll be ninety five
and you know what people would say, I told you you.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Couldn't go nowhere. I told you can't go nowhere. I
don't win a super Bowl. The best part of.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
This would be, let's say Rob was you know, it
was looking like the end, but he was still still
was still coherent, and he was sitting in the bed
and he beep bet and the Lions won the Super
Bowl and I get to come. I'll tell your hospital
room and be like Rob whisper in your ear.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Hi, yes you may see your thank you nurse. The
Lion just wanted let me say something.
Speaker 11 (23:33):
If they if they were leading with two minutes to go,
that would be I would kick out the I would
kick out.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
The plug on my I would out the plug myself,
so man would be his I'm not a Komorkian.
Speaker 11 (23:49):
I'm gonna kick out the plug. Alex, wait a minute,
two minute warning the Lions are up by eleven. Oh
my god, I'm gonna kick the plug out so I
won't have to see the final Elijah chopped that up.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I need that. Oh shoot that man over like wait
the Lions. It looks like the lines they go, how
you're gonna pull out your own life? All right? I'm
crying right now, Martin? What's trending? Oh shoot? What if
at the funeral they.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Throw like an Eddie Murphy Beverly Hills cop Detroit Lions
jacket in the ground as they're throwing the turner, you
feel you come back out.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
They better not throw that jacket in.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
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Speaker 1 (24:38):
It is Yakama, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a worship Wednesday,
shot out to Martin, thank you brother, have a wonderful
rest of your night. Ach and e stiff back Joyce
not cooperating. Some days your bodies are just like nah,
this ain't it. Thankfully on those days there's a lead
with just one peel. I was waiting for them to
sound a lead provides it to twelve hours of paying
(24:58):
relief so you can keep moving.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That sound you was as directed.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Joining us now, our guy law Murray covers the NBA
for the Athletic and is very familiar with the Clippers
and all that they got going on Law Murray, the
n e U on.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
X Law with that brother, how you.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Man you killed that tromo? He was like, shit, what
what did you say?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I was talking like that? What's talking about? Icy hot?
That what you're saying out here in these streets and.
Speaker 12 (25:29):
Competition?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He leave, Hey, listen as long as they got some checks.
I'm with it.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Rob and I talked about law Man. We talked about listening.
You know what the biggest the news right now surrounding
the Clippers. Just just kind of walk us through what
you know and what the latest is, uh, the report
around that, how Kawhi Leonard and some of the things
Uncle Dennis has asked for kind of all this kind
of backtracking has happened, the things that happened over the
last you know, sixty seven years as he's been there.
Speaker 12 (25:56):
I mean, y'all see what it is like, Why be
Kauhi gonna get that money?
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Family? Go and make sure you get that money. Like,
that's pretty much what it is. I thought I was
talking to somebody.
Speaker 12 (26:09):
I was like, why, it's about two things. He's about
championships and he about getting paid. And unfortunately for the Clippers,
they ain't got the championship yet, but they've been paying
it and that's what we're talking about here. So I
don't think it's really that complicated. Like the Clippers has.
Speaker 13 (26:30):
Been committed to Kawhi in ways that probably compromise a
whole lot of other things as far as having a
functional organization, and because of the way Kawhi and his
people move like, it.
Speaker 12 (26:47):
Doesn't come up that much. And unfortunately, why has it
played the amount of games where it's a topic the
conversation all the time, Like everyone focused for the most
part over these last six years over Kui's availability. But now, ironically,
at a time where Kawhi' had his healthiest offseason, here
(27:07):
we are about the start training camp and we're talking
about Colia's money situation and how that might affect the
Clippers in the negative way. It's funny how things work out.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, what do you expect to really happen?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
The commissioner sound sounded noncommittal, really like about it, talking
about the burden of proof and whatnot. It did sound
like I just don't expect anything major with Steve Balmer.
And unless they have some memo like they had with
the Timberwolves or when Baseball had collusion where there was
an actual memo or paperwork, what do you expect to
(27:44):
be the ultimate?
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Hey, Robie, you remember the minutes of the thing. And
the thing about what happened in two thousands of the
Timberwolves is those jokers actually had signed contracts right for
the future. Maybe, Like Joe Smith was the number one
overall pick of the nineteen ninety five NBA draft, He
got traded in his third season right before the lockout
(28:09):
through my city Philadelphia, and then he signs an incredibly
eye raising one year deal with Minnesota. He signed that
same deal the following off season, and then he signed
the same deal the two thousand off season and his
agents had a falling out, And that's how the discovery
led to these documents that I was like, oh, y'are
about to pay Joe Smith? Would be would work just
(28:30):
after you got the bird race. There's none of that
with Kawhi. Like Hawhi again, let's go back to our
original theme. Kawhi got paid Kawhi and exactly take pay
cuts with the Clippers. He's always had this high level
leverage and Rob, I don't think anybody's going to be
satisfied with the penalties that will come to the Clippers.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
Now.
Speaker 12 (28:51):
Looks the NBA's tired of these dudes, So this is
going to be something.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
It's just that there's something.
Speaker 12 (28:56):
It ain't going to hurt the Clippers unless it's something
that compromises what the Clippers really are trying to do,
and that is, ironically move on from this era that
has failed and seen their kimpionship windows shut unless you're
doing something that affects that. And the Commissioner, all he
has really said is he has broad powers and that
(29:17):
he is fit to use them. It's like the Commissioner
also works for all thirty owners, including Steve Varmer. That's
what I'm I'm with you on a conflict of visort.
That's why there's going to be an arbitrator. And that's
why when these penalties.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Come down, don't expect anyone to.
Speaker 12 (29:34):
Be happy with them, because if the Clippers really got hammered,
then what's going to happen. Pender's box is already opened
on the Clippers and their things. It's going to flip
and all these other owners are going to be like,
oh snap, you don't want y'all digging into ourselves too,
And that is going to be a possibility, depending on
what the penalties are as well.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Law Murray comes the NBA for the Athletic over the ACAPA.
Robin Kevin on the worship Wednesday. I'm gonna go a
little broader than this, just the NBA as a whole.
Right now, if you're Adam silver Man, you got this
gambling stuff that keeps popping up, and then which is
going on. As soon as it pops up, they somehow
pop they you know, it goes away just right when
the other literally on the exact same day, Terry Roseire
is cleared, Malie Beasley comes out, and then now you
(30:17):
got this scandal, you got the ratings conversations, you got
the All Star Game not being on what what?
Speaker 8 (30:22):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
How do you think Adam silver fields when he's going
to bed right now with the state of.
Speaker 12 (30:26):
The NBA, I feel like Adams silver is used to this,
Like Adam silver has been commissioner since twenty fourteen, and
before that he worked two decades seeing David's stern handle
things the way he handled them. You know, I mean,
there's a lot of issues with the NBA, but there's
also a lot of other things that it's like, we're
(30:47):
going people are fipple with their attention expans and I
feel like Adam Silver is trying to take advantage of that.
I feel like Adam Silver is going to be like,
y'all gonna watch ball and we're gonna do what we
gotta do, and y'all are gonna playing about some things,
but at the end of the day, you're gonna watch ball.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But but you know what they say that.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
But it's not I mean, and I get it. You
can sign the biggest TV contracts and all that and
the money, but the viewership, as we saw the lowest
rated h for an NBA finals, And this is other
than the you know, the twenty twenty that year or
whatever I mean, COVID year. Other than that, those are
those are distressing. And the NBA All Star Game, which
(31:28):
is supposed to be a showcase, and even the league
went out of its way to say that all the
ratings and they were trying to make excuses. And then
when Game seven got good ratings, what did they do
put out a press release about how good the ratings are.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And my point is the ratings do matter, otherwise you
want to put out a press release for it.
Speaker 12 (31:46):
Of course, there's always gonna be a spinny, like you're
always gonna say this is the most watched Tuesday right.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
In three months.
Speaker 12 (31:55):
Like there's always gonna be that. There's always going to
be the people who say, hey, if our ratings are bad,
it's because the streaming is up.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Well, guess what the.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
NBA is doing now. They have active streaming partners that
are putting on national exclusive, national good law. You know
what I'm saying, Like, it's won't be it's won't be
tithing brod and you're gonna have to readjust the passwords.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It ain't gonna happen. I don't have that much money.
I can't get nine different streaming you know what I mean.
I need too many spaces.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
I got.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I got my prime, So I'm good with that. Man's
like too many pluses. Everybody got a plus right now,
you probably got a law murey plus. My goodness, law man,
appreciate you.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
Wait, my prize Man, no.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Doubt I appreciate you as always man. Yep, all right,
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