September 19, 2025 • 45 mins
Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington open this "Best Of" edition of the show with a debate on the tush push... Do the guys think it should be gone from the NFL? Then they react to recent comments from Jalen Hurts where he took accountability for the Eagles' early-season passing struggles despite a 2-0 start. Former NFL QB Shaun King joins the show to weigh in with his own thoughts, and help the guys preview the weekend's slate of games. Plus, which NFL teams can LEAST afford a loss in Week 3?
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You can't believe that Tim is here. Tim Parker's in
the studio.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
What is he doing?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What he's doing here? Any early attack? I don't even
this hate to Let me look. Let me make sure
that Timothy turn out. That is Timothy. I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
He he uh, he thought he was gonna be he
thought he was going to be a special Tomorrow morning.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And you know what it is too. He wanted to
do all that extra stuff because it's YouTube now. You
want to be all on camera, you know.
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Let me hate to break it to you today. We're
not on the YouTube live. I don't think so. What
is this right in front of us live?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, I don't think so. I don't. I think we're on.
But I don't know. If you're on YouTube today, maybe
we are.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Hit me with the sad sound, the sad song. I'm
sad right now. No, I got I believe.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Elijah is off. I just don't think that I can
step your game up. I don't think I'm Texas Zaga
working today. Do we know how dare want? Both of
them are not allowed to be off. That's like Batman
and Robin taking the day out. Okay, but one of
y'all gotta stick around, all right?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
How we not? I'm just I got used to it
all right. Got a haircut that was already for him.
Mary told me I was cute.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Mary says that to all the young men out there.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Why she says, she said, I was what you said you.
I was dope boy fresh, which is a compliment.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
First off, let's not for any of those allegations out there.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Look what I was saying about the target.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
They're already down three nothing to Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I mean we played the right song there.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wow, it's just unbelievable. They might choke this down, Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
They got nine games left, three against Atlanta, three in
Cleveland and three in Boston.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm just saying, all right, it's all right, they're gonna
be all right, all right, listen, as long as they
get in.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
They got a chance to win. Well, but day bars.
But if they lose, they could not. They might not
make the play. But forget about the walk on. They
might not be in. Could you imagine a year that
they have and not make it in?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You get a little too excited, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Wings.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yeah, they might clip their wings lately.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
All right, let's welcome into because we wouldn't be able
to do this fine radio program.
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Anybody come to work with me.
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And you know, Ian is our producer. Ian one of
my students from US.
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And what do you mean one of your students. Seventy
five percent of this building is a former student.
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No, that's not true, Ian, right, Ian knows, I mean
it's true, but.
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That fight on there you go.
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USC's just you or free labor?
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Are you kidding?
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He gets paid? It's all free, all free.
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Maybe I was gonna say, maybe that's why robs recruit everybody.
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Who? Saga?
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Huh?
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you have this?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Ian?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, so Ian will set this up for us, and
he's not offended if I say set the table, are
you in? I'm not gets very offended as if I'm
saying he's set the table because he's Mexican.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Him but Mexican. That was crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He's just asking from the set to oh no, it's
not go ahead.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
He had all right, Well, there's no easy way to
transition from that, but let's start with this. So Jason
Kelcey was on a Philadelphia radio show earlier this week,
it was actually yesterday morning, and he was talking about
the toushbush.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I never missed that radio so yeah, I'm sure you don't.
Rob They asked him.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
They asked him about the Toush push and whether you
know it's going to be banned over the course of
the next year here because there's they've been catching a
lot of flak, especially because of their win over the Chiefs.
Got controversial with all the false starts and stuff, and
Jason Kelsey had this to say.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
I think the play is done. I think that the
play was going to be done last year. I think
that there's a lot of people within the league at
multiple levels that want to play to be gone, which
is fine. I think we'll still go back to running
quarterbacks in league, and I'm sure they'll figure out ways
to be successful. I'm not really that concerned with it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
To be very candid, I'm just going to say this,
this is shame on the NFL and all the cry
baby teams that can't figure out what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what this is about. It's not about the referees.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
If they blew the what is it a legal motion
or whatever, that's on them call it, you know what
I mean, Like, it hasn't been a legal motion on
every single touch push for all these last few years.
On that one, Okay, they blew it. They blew the call.
And this is what a reaction is because they can't
figure it out or they don't know how to stop it,
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and they're mad because the Eagles have been to the
Super Bowl twice in the last three years.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
This is all jealousy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Come up with your own play, figure something out on
how to get it stopped. You guys, are all these
football geniuses. You're the ones who brag about sleeping in
the football office all night. I'm not going home to
my wife exactly. And that's like a badge of honor.
And you're still going three owing two. What does that
all mean? Who are you trying to impress? Go home,
(07:58):
get a good night's sleep, get up the hot meal,
hug your wife and kids. Oh, I'm not your football
office nineteen hours a day and I sleep in my office.
But I can't stop the touch push. So we got
to ban it. Did you see that Tom.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Brady called it out?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It was a legal motion.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yes, that play was You mean to tell me they've
been doing a legal motion for three years.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Stop cry babies, figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You're just mad that they came up with something that's
almost impossible to stop and you can't figure out what
to do. That's the issue, and now what do you
want to do? Get rid of it?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
You know what what I love about this because the
committee has the rules committee, They go over this stuff
and what should we change. They spend a couple of
weeks doing it over the offseason.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
And you know what I love about the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
The Eagles instead of calling it the touch push, they
called it the kiss my touch push man.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
They kept doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
They keep doing it, and they do it to the
ninety seven percent success rates so far this season, they're
averaging last forwards a last year was eighty four percent.
And they're doing it double the clip of any other team.
The closest team to do it, who is the Bills.
And you know what happened to the Bills. You know
what happened rob They didn't get it. They couldn't do
it in the postseason. A couple of times it cost them.
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And so now what's happening is one flaw that I
have for the Eagles. You know what the thing is
when you do something good, but you don't have to
do it all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
They need it. Caught the hush push.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
They're too loud, they're doing it too much, and they
got caught on national game. Everybody's watching it, and everybody
saw the flaws.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Whose fault was that?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm saying, now everybody gets to go. We'll look at
all these people moving, look at the league emotions.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Could dang it.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
They're doing it too much. Keep it on the low.
You do it better than anyone by far, do.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It look specially use it when you want to, but
use it every now and again. They use it so
much that everybody saw it. But they're so successful at
it is absolutely a part of their game. And we're
gonna talk a little bit later on about Jalen Hurts
and I'll bring up some more thoughts to this. But
when you just look odd to dive into the numbers,
they're more than anybody else. They did like one hundred
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and forty five hundred and fifty times last year. The
next couple was like seventy seven with the Bills, and
a couple of other teams have tried it, but they're
not as good, they're not as proficient, and I think
what's gonna happen rob is gonna work in reverse for them.
I think a large part of why they didn't ban
it this past season, and we had all the owners
arguing about it, we had Jason Kelce even came in
made a presentation for them. I think it's because ultimately
(10:32):
it's what we're saying. So why I gotta change the
rule because of one team? Y'all all can do it.
Everybody can do it, and I think it's now gonna
be the reverse. I think they're gonna ban it because
they're gonna say, well, only one team is doing it. It's
the sense of having it. Only one team uses it,
and it is bad football. It's ugly to our eyes.
And I think they're gonna use that and it's actually
gonna work in reverse. So they're gonna be guilty victims
(10:54):
of their own success with this, and they're gonna get
it's absolutely gonna get overturned.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I just think it's a shame.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I've never seen something. It's like Kareem skyhook.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Right, that's only one person did that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Did the NBA come out and say you can't be
over seven foot and you can't lob the ball over
your head and.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Hook your left shoulder hook?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
This reminds me of like college basketball when they integrated
and then they stopped. You couldn't dunk the ball because
black players could dunk. Yeah, oh wait a minute, that
was real. Think about college and couldn't dunk the basketball.
Who sat there and go, oh wait a minute, we
need to change that's not fair.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Black guys can dunk. Uh, So we need to change
the rules so that you can't.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Dunk I basketball.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Think about that Doctor J played too when he couldn't
dunk in college?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Crazy?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Think about that David Thompson, who was small, he's like
six or four or something, had to jump ahead. One
of the greatest dunkers ever dump just throw it in.
They couldn't dunk.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So now here we are, we're gonna take away something
that has been good to Philadelphia. And they're the ones
that came out. There were and it was their initiative.
They were a genius in putting this in play and
no one not having it. It's not one hundred percent.
You just told the numbers. No, but it was eighty
four last year.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It is eighty four years, okay, and they won't end
ninety four because if you look at.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
The numbers all that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It was two thousand and two when they started it,
ninety three percent, but they only did it twenty seven times.
They've done it one hundred and fifty, I should say
over the last three years.
Speaker 9 (12:23):
My bad.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Let me clarify that over the last three years, and
then twenty twenty three was eighty eight percent. Last year
was actually eighty one percent.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So it's going down because you got a feel for
familiar with it. Yes, they have gone up with their
usage of it, though but it's going down. They use
it forty eight times last year, forty two of the
year before, twenty seven the year before, and right now,
depending on what you call it, they're at about nearly
ten this year, already in the early part of the season.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So we'll have a longer conversation about this.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
The usage in Jalen hurtson litter, But I've just never
seen something where one team is that dominant at something
and then everybody else can't do it at their level.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And again, it reminds me of Careem in a skyhood yeap.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
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Speaker 3 (13:08):
Where are you on this?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The tush push sour grapes by the rest of the
league because they can't figure it out. Should it just
stay in place and let these guys figure out a
way to stop it or utilize it themselves if they
got a great offensive line right and make that something
a weapon that they can use.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I don't have an issue with it. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It's gone get rid of They're gonna get rid of
it because the stylistically they're gonna say it doesn't look
good it's not good for TV, is boring, It's gone
all right?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 9 (15:19):
All good in the hood?
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Man?
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Listen, all they need is shirts are and those guys.
But one special night come playoffs. That's all they need.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, I listen, there's something now, Sean, I know real
quick and we'll get to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
The Tigers look like they're gonna choke this down.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm shocked that when they're losing eight to one tonight,
they got eight games left. If now lowt they lose tonight,
that's gonna be eleven out of sixteen in September and
they have a chance to fall all the way out
of the playoffs, not even a wild card. They can
actually not be in the playoffs at all, which is crazy.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
That'll be surprising. I never thought they had a chance
to win it all because their bro Tason gets really
skinny for school. But I didn't think they would collapse
like this and be on the verge of potentially not
making the player.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's crazy. Nobody did. They didn't either.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Man.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Goodness gracious, but you know what, that's one thing we
love about baseball because you have no idea who's gonna
win it.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Ll Plusie this year. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You could name anybody as a shot at it. Uh,
let's get to some football man. We were talking about
Rams Eagles a little bit earlier. We had a guest
in our goy, Timothy Parker. Appreciate him showing up. We're
looking at two teams too, and oh and I believe
two teams who feel obviously one is the ranting champion
another one in the Rams. You feel like we can
get back to winning the Super Bowl like they did
a handful of years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
What do you like.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
About the Rams that some people are really really high
on them. What do you look at that team and say, no,
that's that's realistic for them to make a run at it.
Speaker 9 (16:40):
I like everything about him, and I'm gonna say this,
and this is not an exaggeration. Right now, the best
quarterback on the planet.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Is Matthew staff is an exaggeration.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, he is better than his numbers, Lamar's numbers. We
just went over it. He now has the best passer
rating in the history of the National Flow League.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
For you to say that Sean is outrageous to me.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
In his last twenty games, he has fifty seven touchdowns
and four picks, three of them off of wide receivers hands.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Can you go look at the last year in the
middle of the year when they were averaging thirteen points
a game for six straight games. Come on, Sean, don't
be a prisoner of the moment. He's not the best
quarterback in the league.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Matthew Stafford has been in the league since I think.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And his first game. I've been watching him his whole career.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
So I can say something about Matthew Stafford and it
not be a knock on Lamar Jackson if you want
to tell me, Lamar Jackson is the most talented quarterback. Absolutely,
but I don't know how many of the Rams first
how much of the rounds first two games you watched.
Stafford's playing at god level right now.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I just gave you Lamar has passed Aaron Rodgers for
the best passer rating. Not this season, not last season,
the history of the NFL. Really, Sean, really, I want
you to rethink this. Matthew Stafford is better than Lamar.
I want this on tape. Is that what you're telling
me right now?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (18:13):
If I had to pick one quarterback for one game.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Please, that's not what you just said. That's not what
you just said. You said he was the best quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
In the league. That's not what that's.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
No, that's different from one game you said he was
the best.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
I said it right now.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
He's not the best. That's awful. Us a terrible tap.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
I would buy stock on the Rams to make it
to the super Bowl. I think the Stafford is gonna
showcase the level he's playing at this Sunday versus vehicles he's.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Been He's been playing very, very well. Part of that
is Devontae Adams. How how big of that was that
for the Cooper Cup? Really good career with the Rams.
But obviously the last couple of years was slowing down.
How big of a pickup was that for them? Getting DeVante?
Speaker 9 (18:57):
I think it's extremely important. And you look at Lamar's
elevation as a passer is because they've continued to get
better around him. I mean, this is the most talented
group of pass catchers he's ever had. Same thing with
the Rams. You put guys around Stafford and he makes
them even better. It's not like a tool you can
put any receiver in the history of NFL in Miami.
Tool is limited, and what he can do, like Stafford
(19:19):
is taking advantage of having not just Pooka now not
just Karen Williams, but also Devonte Adams. I'm telling this
Rams team is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
He ain't the best quarterback in the league. I'm sorry,
I can't even get over that. All right, let me
ask you, no, no, no, I just let's move on.
We'll be here all that.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We'll be all that.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
I want to explain. I want to explain to your
fan base where this trauma and her comes from. Tram.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I watched the guy. I watched his whole career. I
watched his whole career.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Lions lead reporter, so he's so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I was a columnist. I covered every game for twenty years. Okay,
Homing Road. I watched every game.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'm not some guy who just watched highlights. I watched
the games. I'm not hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm just I watched every game in person at every
stadium around the country. Okay, I watched the guy. Don't
tell me that I watched his very first pass in
the NFL. I watched his entire career. Let's go to
the Kansas City Chiefs and where they are. Obviously they
play the Giants in Jersey. Any chance they lose that
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and start zero and three?
Speaker 9 (20:28):
I don't think so. I think the Chiefs make a
statement here and people that are giving up on the Chiefs,
I wouldn't because in a couple of weeks they're gonna
be fully healthy. When they get Red she Rice back
some suspension, and Xavi Worthy is fully healthy from you
know that shoulder injury, They're gonna be a different offense.
I think you're seeing the versatility in Patrick Mahomes. He's
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losing his legs to try and create, you know, more
explosive plays. I'm not buying Russ last week. I just
think Dallas is awful in the secondary. I think the
Chiefs win is easily and with and with Marchin.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I'm still on the same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
When we and Rob talked about this, he thinks the
Chiefs aren't gonna make the postseason.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I say the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
They stayed in both of their games against two really
good teams and the Eagles in the charge.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
No, they used to win those games they won last
year when they were ten or eleven and zero in
one score games.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Everything went their way. There was a struggle.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Patrick Mahomes win fifteen and one as a starter and
got zero first places votes for MVP.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's how poorly he played.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
When you look at quarterback play, How can that happen
in the quarterback League? Sean, Really, you lead to the
fifteen and one and didn't get one first place vote.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
But that was that was last year, And for context,
Josh Allen and.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Lamar were incredible start last year.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
But I'm talking strictly the two losses thus far. Patrick
has played much better. He's not been the reason the
Chiefs loss. And I'm just saying he.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Threw it pick.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Didn't he throw a pick at the end of the game.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
Yeah, I don't know that there's a quarterback walk in
the face of the it that had not thrown an
interception at some point. Stop being a prisoner at the moment.
I'm talking macro big picture. When it's all said and done,
the Chiefs will be in the playoffs, are going to
be dangerous if they're healthy.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I'm still the same thing with you, Rob and I.
We've been going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
With that about the Lions, the Lions big game of
Monday Night Football.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
I have the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Lions not making the playoffs taking a huge step backwards
this year, so we.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Really don't know yet. They didn't look good in Week one,
but Green Bay looks like they're really good specific girl defense,
and they had a great Week two, but they played
the Bears. The Bears may be all time bad when
this is all said and done. I think this is
a good benchmark for Detroit. I think they're playing Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Right, Yes, yes, even if they lose.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
It's just about how the game looks. Do they look
like they belong on that same level as a Baltimore
Ravens team. So I haven't given up or I'm not
buying the Lions yet. I'm still taking await and see approach.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, this will be a good one. And you mentioned too,
like it's how we talked about that week one. I said, Man,
they didn't show up against Packers. They gotta be because
it was one thing if they couldn't stop him scoring,
but they could score, they couldn't score, and they couldn't
stop them. So that was bad right there. And let's
go to a couple of couple of quarterbacks. I'm looking
at you. Aside from Matthew, Stafford's playing well. Justin Herbert
(23:14):
might say to you, what about me, I'm playing well,
I'm playing some of the best football I played. Where
would you what's going on with him? Where do you
rank him?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, Stafford's better than him too.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Apparently, Well Stafford is better than Justin Herbert. But Justin
Herbert is starting to change the narrative. And what's interesting
is Quinton Johnson is starting to look like him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And that's made all the difference for this offense because,
like I said, you get some organizations that really surround
their quarterback with a lot of talent. The Charges really
hadn't done that. Last year was pretty much lam mccauckey
(23:45):
and nothing. You know, for most of the season. Quinton
Johnson looked like he has his confidence. If this is sustainable,
then they're dangerous. I think Amalia and Hampton is still
at some point gonna find his groove. The rookie running back,
and they're putting a lot more in Herbert's hand. I
think about hardball, He's always been kind of this, running
the ball, play field. We shouldn't get the game that
they are past first team right now. Herbert looks really good.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Tenan Allen was a big pick up for them to
get him back as well. That was a good pickup.
Just fits, you know, having that safety blanket for them.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Absolutely, and now they looked like an NFL offense when
they show up to the stadium. But he's a big
question It's a big question mark here. Quenton Johnson has
more bad film than good film. He has to continue
to play at the level he's playing at.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Anybody else you want to take a look at this
weekend just to see where they are.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I want to see is the fit that we've seen
with Daniel Jones and Shane Stinking is it sustainable? Because
I truly believe that Jayden Hurts and Daniel Jones are
perfect fits for this offense. Remember sticking was the OC
and Philly when the Eagles lost and can't sit. They're
a perfect fit for this offense. Hey, this is a
(25:00):
faintable man. Daniel Jones is having a kind of year
that man Staty might be in the Coach of the
Year conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And this way early for that man, I've seen so
much bad Daniel Jones.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
That said if, I said if, but if you look
at the coach offense, Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman Junior, I
love Tyler Warren, the rookie Alec Pearson, serviceable downs like
they got some pieces there, especially for what Stykey wants
to do. So I'm interrested in the coach and it's
just an aberration that we're watching us. It's gonna be sustainable,
(25:31):
all right, man, We'll.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
We'll be watching the games as well, sewn as always.
We appreciate you, man, Hey, last.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
Thing before our go Brewers are winning the World Series.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
They are been great. They be beating up on the dot.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Take that's too all right, Sea, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
On the udio, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
We got to talk about what teams have to win
Week three, What teams have to get the job done.
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Speaker 1 (27:18):
Pickoff after that last call. So much to do, so
little time here on the couple, and let's talk about
Jalen Hurts, of course, the ragning Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
He won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Everybody to me was like, just stop sa Quon and
you'll beat the Eagles. And okay, Saquon was stopped, and
guess what. The Eagles still won the super Bowl and
Jalen Hurts was a big part of that. But the
offense is off to a slow start and he's taking
some responsibility.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Ian right, we have.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Sound, correct, we do have sound. Yeah, like you said,
I mean something else important context. He's actually the only
starting quarterback left.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
In the NFL who has not thrown a passing touchdown.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Exactly, who has yet to throw a passing touchdown.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That that's the big thing right now.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
And they are too and O.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
So it's like how much to make exactly, But here's
what Jalen had to say.
Speaker 10 (28:13):
More importantly, just overall operation and how we function, how
we flow, our synchronization, I think that I take accountability
for a lot of it and just how we go
out there, because that's my job. My job to go
out there and be the general orchestrate everything and ultimately
make plays. And you know, given the opportunities we had,
(28:34):
you know, I'm very critical of myself of trying to
make the most of what's given to us.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And so.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
There's definitely some evolution that we can do. There's definitely
some things that we can grow in. But I look
inward on all of those things and I just want
to make the most of the opportunities that we do have.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I think sometimes we can be kind of hypocritical. We say, hey,
I want you to win, and I want you all
about winning.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Winning. Would you always say wins and lost the only
thing gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Mean a short menu. It's a short menu.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
We say that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
But then we'll say, oh, well, well, well it's gotta
look like this, and I want it to feel like that.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
And I get it because.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
At times I've been worried sitting there saying, man, hey,
if I'm the Eagles, if they clamp down on the
running game and I have to have Jalen Hurts get
it done.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Can he and that's what they said in the Super Bowl.
You gotta admit that going in that was the way.
All they gotta do is stop sha kwand he got
all a million yards. He's the reason that they will winning.
It ain't Jalen Hurt.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
And Jalen Hurts, to his credit, has found a way
to get it done when needed to. Jalen Hurts what
he's done in college. He won a lot and then
they tang to it and everybody's like, no, your turn
is over. He goes Oklahoma, won a lot with Oklahoma.
Then he comes to the league. All right, we'll see
what he is. Maybe he's won a lot since he's
been in the NFL. You look at him as he
(29:51):
since he's really been the starter with the Eagles. I mean,
he goes eight and seven, fourteen and one, eleven and six,
he goes twelve to thirteen, he's two and all.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Right. Now he's been the two.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Super Bowls, he's won one and he's out playing Patrick
Mahomes in both of them. So Jalen Hurts is essentially
I keep thinking about him as like a Terry Bradshaw.
And you've heard me references Terry Bradshaw could have some games,
or he's airing it out because they don't have a
bunch of receivers. Then then it was maybe handing up
to Franco Harris. And then some just.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Have great stats.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Stats aren't amazing golden, but they didn't throw the football
like that, and.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
He was perfect for that team. What do you need
me to do. I'm gonna be tough. I'm gonna be
a guy. Take the take the sacks, I'll take that.
I mean the hits. I'm gonna get the ball out,
I'll run the ball, whatever it took. And he took
that to the tune of four Super Bowl rings. And
I think Jalen Hurts is on that trajectory. We're gonna
look up at the end of his career. He's gonna
have three. He might have four. But all I know
(30:48):
is he keeps being on winning teams and they keep
playing winning football. Is it ugly at times? Yes, the
tush push want to put you to sleep at times? Yes,
there's a j Brown gotta be looking up like why
do I have one pass a target?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Why am I reading a book from the New York
Times bestsellers on the bench during the game.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
But at the end of the day, it's effective. And
last point I'll talk to you Rob.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The only criticism, what at least the big one I'll have,
is I will say next year will be interesting if
they legislate out the tush push. And the reason why
I say that is that play not just when we
think of it as a touchdown like they're on the
fourth and they're on the goal. The reason why I'm
interested in seeing that is because the times they're fourth
(31:33):
and third and two, third and three, and they do
it twice from the fifty yard line point being they
extend drives because of that that ultimately can get them
points or ultimately take time out the clock. And if
they can't do that as much, I do wonder how
that might change the way that you know they're they're
strategy in their offense, and I would like to see that.
But he's been productive man, and then we can't act
(31:54):
like he's not thrown for almost four thousand yards and
twenty twenty three or thirty seven hundre yards in twenty
twenty two. So he's he's been able to get wins
and victories. He's been whatever that team has needed him
to be. He's never going to be a top eight quarterback,
seven quarterback. When it comes to passing stats, He's never
going to be a top six, top five quarterback. When
you think aesthetically, when you think, when you close your
(32:15):
eyes and I think of a quarterback justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes,
Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford. You know those guys are going
to cross your mind when you think of a quarterback
before him.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
But those eyes aren't winning at the rad He's winning.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But to me, Jalen Hurts doesn't have to prove anything
to anybody. I'm dead serious, Like I think it's just
window dressing because Patrick Mahomes could have bad numbers, but
he makes one play and you're good with that, right,
Oh yeah, No, he makes a winning playof I don't
care if he had one hundred and thirty yards very which.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
One is it? Which one is it?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Because he ain't the Patrick Mahomes from year one or
two when he's lighting up the field and scoring fifty points.
But you're okay with that because he gets it, he
keeps him alive, makes a.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Play, makes a third down conversion.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And here's the other part.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
When he threw three for three hundred yards in the
Super Bowl and had four touchdowns, one passing in three rushing.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
They lost. Okay, so what like he can't throw the football.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
He did it and when toe to toe and if
it wasn't for that costly fumble, they might have won
that Super Bowl. He might be two to zero and
could have been Patrick Mahomes twice. Okay, he played great
that game and had a costly fumble last year. Last year,
all I heard pregame all the former NFL players, Oh
the playground, the playbook for this is simple. Just stop
(33:41):
sa Kwan Barkerho had a million yards on the ground.
He's the reason why they were so good this year.
He's the reason why he had fifty seven yards on
twenty five carries. Two point three yards of Carry't.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Gonna cut it you.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
If you were going with that, you ain't winning no
Super Bowl last year. Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And all I'm gonna say is he made all the
throws you needed to make Jalen Herbs and that Super Bowl.
I don't care about the style points. I don't care.
This guy has helped them win.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He did it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
We've seen him in two Super Bowls now one where
he was throwing the ball and have four touchdowns, this
one where he didn't didn't go crazy but right, and
and he won the Super Bowl MVP because why Kelviny
made every throw that they needed?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
He did it. What does he have to prove to people?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
The challenge is, Robert, if I jump in here, is
I think we're in a quarterback You could argue, maybe
like a quarterback Renois Sounce, where there's a lot of
good quarterbacks. I mean, there's a handful of great where
we're like, whoa, that guy's amazing, But like Jordan Love
looks like he could be one of those guys. Eventually,
what's Jaden Daniels looks like okay, eventually right, And then
you got, like I said, the Joe Burrows and you
already you know the four horsemen with the Joe and
(35:04):
the Josh and the Lamar and Patrick. But then you
got Matthew Staffordson Aaron Rodgers still out there. So I
think the challenge is he just doesn't fit the mold
that people's brains go. But this just doesn't make sense.
Why is he having all the success looking at these
other guys who were, you know, much more fitting the
traditional mold. But again, some guys just fit their team
(35:26):
and do exactly what it takes to win.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And it happens all the time. I mean you, if
you want to use another example, different.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Sport, Tim Duncan, whatn't always is flashy as Kevin Garnett.
If you look at the power forwards or Dirk Novinsky
fadeaway jumpers, one legged jumpers and hitting threes and all that,
and maybe didn't have the gaudy numbers of a prime
Karl Malone or Charles Barkley.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You know what he did? What y'all need me to
do tonight?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You need me to just block a few shots, put
a couple of you know, nice jump books in and
off the glass, come talk?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Okay, what do y'all need me tonight? Oh you need
thirty and twenty?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Okay, cool? What do y'all need me tonight?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And he just did that to the tune of five
championships and what he only lose once. So I think
that's a you know, if I had to use, I
know it's not apples apples, but an example of a
guy who is who can just say I'm gonna do
what you need me to do to win and to
his tune. And I've been critical at times or more
I would say critical. I've been more concerned, Like I
don't know, man, I thought last year you would concern
(36:21):
going into the Superowl because I knew they were a
good team. My question was if you got into it
with the Rams and I you know, you gotta have
a shootout. You got into it with the Chiefs and
the Super Bowl, you had to have a shootout. Could
he get it done? And he shut me up. He said, look, man,
I can do what I can.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I can do what I mean, And it's about making
throws at certain plays, you know, Like we talked about
Patrick Mahomes, so yeah, but we were talking about the Chargers,
h Herbert and Justin Herbert, he makes a play with
his legs that that that gives him the first doubt
that iced to get the game right. It's something that
I could play. You gotta make a play. And in
Jalen Hurts's case, he made some throws in that Super
(36:58):
Bowl where you needed that first down or whatever to
keep the clock running, and he did it.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
He got it, he made it happen.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And another guy, I know, we bring him up all
the time, but Lamar Jackson does that ninety percent of
the time. That other ten percent is to me, the
slight difference between him, Patrick Mahomes and even Jalen Hurts
of they make that play a handful more times, and
that's been the separate I do believe Lamar is gonna
get it right at some point, but that's.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He breaks through.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm telling you, Like.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Rob g remember we were talking about if he messed
around gets one, don't mess around and get two. We
gotta have some real hard conversations around Lamar has ranked
because it's that's here's you know, you go to a
reference with his basketball football reference and they you can
click on the thing they'll say bio and awards andou
his awards insteads are gonna be absurd.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You ever hear of not having enough room on the internet,
like that's where we are.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It's gonna be a full lit But Jalen Hurts His
is gonna be with the wins, wins and you know,
and and percentages of winning and the Super Bowl appearances because.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
He might not have the MVPs and all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But so far, I mean, there's a reason why Jayalen
Hurts can say, I know y'all talk about them and
them and them and y'all don't bring me up as much.
But I'm the only one that's been you know, outside
of uh Patrick Mahomes, I'm the only one who's been
to two super He got the only one that outplayed
the guy. I'll keep playing number one, and I got
got World Series and I got an MVP and so
(38:27):
so you know, he can definitely say that for himself.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Does Jalen
Hurts have anything to prove to you? Are you still
a doubter or still on enough defense on him on
how good he really is or not?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
What do you believe?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Like, Yes, he is that dude, Kelvin And I think
he's that dude, right, Are you convinced now? Closer to it?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I think he's exactly what the Philadelphia Eagles need.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think he is that guy. All Right, seven seven
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little NFL action. You mentioned something, Rob, you said, Man,
the teams that are supposed to be good, they've been
struggling in baseball lately. It's just like weird it really.
You got all of the met's been struggling. You got
the Tigers, Yankees and Dodgers, and yeah, it's it is
pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
As we get to the play playoffs, so getting close,
like there's only nine games left, which is just amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
You know, baseball is a six month yep, every day.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, and the thing that we're down to just nine
games and you know everything's not settled.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
That's great. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
That's what ends up being great because last season, man,
the postseason need to be amazing.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
It was great last year, yeah, we were.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
This year it could be even better because it's so flawed.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
All the teams are so flawed.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I don't think anybody really knows who's going to be
in a World Series.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I don't nobody that I wonder what I'd be interested
to see what Vegas says. You know, at some point
once the playoffs kind of start, all right, so real quick,
before we break a game with some NFL teams that
are owing to some are one in something and they said, yeah,
we gotta break down who needs to.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Win, righty, Right?
Speaker 7 (40:47):
So I guess let's start with the Chiefs. I feel
like that's a good end point here. Kansas City Chiefs,
like you guys mentioned earlier in the show, they're going
to be facing the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Uh in New Jersey. So Giants are the home team there.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
The New York Football Giants, Sure, New York Football Giants.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
You know what they called football giants? New York Football Giants?
Do you know? Well, because there's the uh the San
Francisco Giants used.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Well, they used to be there.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, the baseball team was their first. So when they
wrote in the paper they had to say, you couldn't
say New York Giants. People weren't sure what team you're
talking about.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
So, yes, the New York Football Giants. But so the
Chiefs are one of the teams here. How badly do
they need a win this week?
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah, they gotta win this one. You can't go in three.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Uh And and also you can't lose to the Giants,
who are I don't think they're we don't know exactly
what they are, and they look like at an offensive
not last week and then they look bad week one.
But you gotta win this one. You're still fighting for
playoff position. I believe they still ultimately make it. Rob
does not. But in order to can you imagine they
gotta win this one if they lose to the.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Giants here in Jersey, just say another close one and
they don't win.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Would change?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Would that change? Just like maybe? Do you know what
I mean? What would you owe in three?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (41:59):
I got a bit about it.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Seventy five eighty percent chance of making a post, but
you get what I'm saying, that's gonna drop down to
about forty for me, thirty five even?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And what about you if they lose to the Giants, Like.
Speaker 7 (42:12):
I mean, I don't I don't know how to put
an actual percentage on it, but but yeah, I mean
if the Chiefs go to oher and three, it gets
pretty hard just because the rest of the division is
so difficult.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Like, the Chargers look so good.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
You know, I might keep saying that.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
You know, everybody keeps saying this division and the same
thing to me with the NFC Nord they're on that division.
I'm like, only thing I know is the Packers look
very good and the Lions look like they should be good.
And that's it, you know what I mean? All that
dont that division? I don't know yet. We'll figure that still.
The AFC West is still open to me.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
We'll see who's next next up the Denver Broncos, so
they're not owing to yet. They're one and one, but
they are facing the uh, the aforementioned Los Angeles Chargers
here who are two and zero.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
So how badly do the Broncos need to win this week?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
They need to win that game otherwise the Chargers going
to jump out front, you know what I mean? Like,
I think that's a huge game, I really do. And
also to get a quality win. Where is that game not?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
This is their home open up, but they were in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
But you get it.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
You get it though, if they Denver is able to
come to Los Angeles win a game against the team
everybody's going gaga over over and beat them.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It would be a big shot in the arm huge.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Completely agree, and I think too because everybody was high
on the Broncos. Some people even had the Broncos maybe
winning this division. Some people, you know, they were really
big on them. And you can't start off one and
two knowing you got to see the Chargers again, knowing
you got to see the Chiefs twice, you know, and
obviously the Raiders aren't. They aren't as bad as they
have been the last handful of years. So you you
got to just in your division alone, you're gonna have
(43:45):
to compete. So I don't think you can go down
and be one and two and feel comfortable so early.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
Next up the Chicago Bears. They are the home team
this week against the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys are also sort
of in de inspiration mode at one, one and one there,
but the Bears are the zero to two team in
this matchup.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
How badly do they need to win?
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Now?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
They need to win?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
You don't You don't want to just be buried and
then you know, the whole season if you win and
beat the Cowboys, you know, that's a win. And the
Cowboys aren't that great and they're on the road playing
in Chicago, right, you want to be able to fight back,
and I think that a bounce back game after getting
getting you know, a fifty piece go on you.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta have fight to
save your season.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
And I'm not saying that winning is gonna turn everything around,
but it's just like a fight to push back.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
You can't beat Dallas at home, man, who are.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
You beating and flush back that Chicago noise? Right if
they lose, because that Dallas can put up some points,
we know that. And if they lose, you know, I'm
making up thirty eight to eighteen or some thirty eight
seventeen something.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
It just where now the noise gets loud.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
It's Caleb the guy Ben john Maybe Ben Johnson should
have stuck as a coordinator.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
And if they if they don't have a good game and.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Win, and it's gonna get very loud in the Windy
City for sure. All Right, man, appreciate that we got
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is this right in front of us live?
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No, I don't think so. I don't. I think we're on.
But I don't know. If you're on YouTube today, maybe
we are.
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Hit me with the sad sound, the sad song. I'm
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Elijah is off. I just don't think that I can
step your game up. I don't think I'm Texas Zaga
working today. Do we know how dare want? Both of
them are not allowed to be off. That's like Batman
and Robin taking the day out. Okay, but one of
y'all gotta stick around, all right?
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Uh?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
How we not? I'm just I got used to it
all right. Got a haircut that was already for him.
Mary told me I was cute.
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Mary says that to all the young men out there.
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Why she says, she said, I was what you said you.
I was dope boy fresh, which is a compliment.
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First off, let's not for any of those allegations out there.
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Look what I was saying about the target.
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They're already down three nothing to Atlanta.
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I mean we played the right song there.
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Wow, it's just unbelievable. They might choke this down, Kelvin.
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They got nine games left, three against Atlanta, three in
Cleveland and three in Boston.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm just saying, all right, it's all right, they're gonna
be all right, all right, listen, as long as they
get in.
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They got a chance to win. Well, but day bars.
But if they lose, they could not. They might not
make the play. But forget about the walk on. They
might not be in. Could you imagine a year that
they have and not make it in?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You get a little too excited, I'll be honest with you.
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Wings.
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Yeah, they might clip their wings lately.
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Anybody come to work with me.
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And what do you mean one of your students. Seventy
five percent of this building is a former student.
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No, that's not true, Ian, right, Ian knows, I mean
it's true, but.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That fight on there you go.
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USC's just you or free labor?
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Are you kidding?
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He gets paid? It's all free, all free.
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Maybe I was gonna say, maybe that's why robs recruit everybody.
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Who is? Text him?
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Who? Saga?
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Yeah?
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We need to know? Can you text us to let
us know? We didn't hear from him, so I'm assuming
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We'll also I need to know because I might be
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do something.
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I need to know if I'm on YouTube or not?
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Man, okay? And of course on the ones and twos, why.
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Huh?
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you have this?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Ian?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, so Ian will set this up for us, and
he's not offended if I say set the table, are
you in? I'm not gets very offended as if I'm
saying he's set the table because he's Mexican.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Him but Mexican. That was crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
He's just asking from the set to oh no, it's
not go ahead.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
He had all right, Well, there's no easy way to
transition from that, but let's start with this. So Jason
Kelcey was on a Philadelphia radio show earlier this week,
it was actually yesterday morning, and he was talking about
the toushbush.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I never missed that radio so yeah, I'm sure you don't.
Rob They asked him.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
They asked him about the Toush push and whether you
know it's going to be banned over the course of
the next year here because there's they've been catching a
lot of flak, especially because of their win over the Chiefs.
Got controversial with all the false starts and stuff, and
Jason Kelsey had this to say.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
I think the play is done. I think that the
play was going to be done last year. I think
that there's a lot of people within the league at
multiple levels that want to play to be gone, which
is fine. I think we'll still go back to running
quarterbacks in league, and I'm sure they'll figure out ways
to be successful. I'm not really that concerned with it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
To be very candid, I'm just going to say this,
this is shame on the NFL and all the cry
baby teams that can't figure out what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what this is about. It's not about the referees.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
If they blew the what is it a legal motion
or whatever, that's on them call it, you know what
I mean, Like, it hasn't been a legal motion on
every single touch push for all these last few years.
On that one, Okay, they blew it. They blew the call.
And this is what a reaction is because they can't
figure it out or they don't know how to stop it,
(07:30):
and they're mad because the Eagles have been to the
Super Bowl twice in the last three years.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
This is all jealousy.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Come up with your own play, figure something out on
how to get it stopped. You guys, are all these
football geniuses. You're the ones who brag about sleeping in
the football office all night. I'm not going home to
my wife exactly. And that's like a badge of honor.
And you're still going three owing two. What does that
all mean? Who are you trying to impress? Go home,
(07:58):
get a good night's sleep, get up the hot meal,
hug your wife and kids. Oh, I'm not your football
office nineteen hours a day and I sleep in my office.
But I can't stop the touch push. So we got
to ban it. Did you see that Tom.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Brady called it out?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It was a legal motion.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yes, that play was You mean to tell me they've
been doing a legal motion for three years.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Stop cry babies, figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You're just mad that they came up with something that's
almost impossible to stop and you can't figure out what
to do. That's the issue, and now what do you
want to do? Get rid of it?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
You know what what I love about this because the
committee has the rules committee, They go over this stuff
and what should we change. They spend a couple of
weeks doing it over the offseason.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
And you know what I love about the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
The Eagles instead of calling it the touch push, they
called it the kiss my touch push man.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
They kept doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
They keep doing it, and they do it to the
ninety seven percent success rates so far this season, they're
averaging last forwards a last year was eighty four percent.
And they're doing it double the clip of any other team.
The closest team to do it, who is the Bills.
And you know what happened to the Bills. You know
what happened rob They didn't get it. They couldn't do
it in the postseason. A couple of times it cost them.
(09:19):
And so now what's happening is one flaw that I
have for the Eagles. You know what the thing is
when you do something good, but you don't have to
do it all the time.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
They need it. Caught the hush push.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
They're too loud, they're doing it too much, and they
got caught on national game. Everybody's watching it, and everybody
saw the flaws.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Whose fault was that?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I'm saying, now everybody gets to go. We'll look at
all these people moving, look at the league emotions.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Could dang it.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
They're doing it too much. Keep it on the low.
You do it better than anyone by far, do.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It look specially use it when you want to, but
use it every now and again. They use it so
much that everybody saw it. But they're so successful at
it is absolutely a part of their game. And we're
gonna talk a little bit later on about Jalen Hurts
and I'll bring up some more thoughts to this. But
when you just look odd to dive into the numbers,
they're more than anybody else. They did like one hundred
(10:09):
and forty five hundred and fifty times last year. The
next couple was like seventy seven with the Bills, and
a couple of other teams have tried it, but they're
not as good, they're not as proficient, and I think
what's gonna happen rob is gonna work in reverse for them.
I think a large part of why they didn't ban
it this past season, and we had all the owners
arguing about it, we had Jason Kelce even came in
made a presentation for them. I think it's because ultimately
(10:32):
it's what we're saying. So why I gotta change the
rule because of one team? Y'all all can do it.
Everybody can do it, and I think it's now gonna
be the reverse. I think they're gonna ban it because
they're gonna say, well, only one team is doing it. It's
the sense of having it. Only one team uses it,
and it is bad football. It's ugly to our eyes.
And I think they're gonna use that and it's actually
gonna work in reverse. So they're gonna be guilty victims
(10:54):
of their own success with this, and they're gonna get
it's absolutely gonna get overturned.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I just think it's a shame.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I've never seen something. It's like Kareem skyhook.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Right, that's only one person did that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Did the NBA come out and say you can't be
over seven foot and you can't lob the ball over
your head and.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Hook your left shoulder hook?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
This reminds me of like college basketball when they integrated
and then they stopped. You couldn't dunk the ball because
black players could dunk. Yeah, oh wait a minute, that
was real. Think about college and couldn't dunk the basketball.
Who sat there and go, oh wait a minute, we
need to change that's not fair.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Black guys can dunk. Uh, So we need to change
the rules so that you can't.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Dunk I basketball.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Think about that Doctor J played too when he couldn't
dunk in college?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Crazy?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Think about that David Thompson, who was small, he's like
six or four or something, had to jump ahead. One
of the greatest dunkers ever dump just throw it in.
They couldn't dunk.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So now here we are, we're gonna take away something
that has been good to Philadelphia. And they're the ones
that came out. There were and it was their initiative.
They were a genius in putting this in play and
no one not having it. It's not one hundred percent.
You just told the numbers. No, but it was eighty
four last year.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
It is eighty four years, okay, and they won't end
ninety four because if you look at.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
The numbers all that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
It was two thousand and two when they started it,
ninety three percent, but they only did it twenty seven times.
They've done it one hundred and fifty, I should say
over the last three years.
Speaker 9 (12:23):
My bad.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Let me clarify that over the last three years, and
then twenty twenty three was eighty eight percent. Last year
was actually eighty one percent.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So it's going down because you got a feel for
familiar with it. Yes, they have gone up with their
usage of it, though but it's going down. They use
it forty eight times last year, forty two of the
year before, twenty seven the year before, and right now,
depending on what you call it, they're at about nearly
ten this year, already in the early part of the season.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
So we'll have a longer conversation about this.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
The usage in Jalen hurtson litter, But I've just never
seen something where one team is that dominant at something
and then everybody else can't do it at their level.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
And again, it reminds me of Careem in a skyhood yeap.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
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Speaker 3 (13:08):
Where are you on this?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
The tush push sour grapes by the rest of the
league because they can't figure it out. Should it just
stay in place and let these guys figure out a
way to stop it or utilize it themselves if they
got a great offensive line right and make that something
a weapon that they can use.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I don't have an issue with it. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It's gone get rid of They're gonna get rid of
it because the stylistically they're gonna say it doesn't look
good it's not good for TV, is boring, It's gone
all right?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
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All good in the hood?
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Man?
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But one special night come playoffs. That's all they need.
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Speaker 3 (15:33):
The Tigers look like they're gonna choke this down.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I'm shocked that when they're losing eight to one tonight,
they got eight games left. If now lowt they lose tonight,
that's gonna be eleven out of sixteen in September and
they have a chance to fall all the way out
of the playoffs, not even a wild card. They can
actually not be in the playoffs at all, which is crazy.
Speaker 9 (15:54):
That'll be surprising. I never thought they had a chance
to win it all because their bro Tason gets really
skinny for school. But I didn't think they would collapse
like this and be on the verge of potentially not
making the player.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's crazy. Nobody did. They didn't either.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
Man.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Goodness gracious, but you know what, that's one thing we
love about baseball because you have no idea who's gonna
win it.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Ll Plusie this year. You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You could name anybody as a shot at it. Uh,
let's get to some football man. We were talking about
Rams Eagles a little bit earlier. We had a guest
in our goy, Timothy Parker. Appreciate him showing up. We're
looking at two teams too, and oh and I believe
two teams who feel obviously one is the ranting champion
another one in the Rams. You feel like we can
get back to winning the Super Bowl like they did
a handful of years ago.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
What do you like.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
About the Rams that some people are really really high
on them. What do you look at that team and say, no,
that's that's realistic for them to make a run at it.
Speaker 9 (16:40):
I like everything about him, and I'm gonna say this,
and this is not an exaggeration. Right now, the best
quarterback on the planet.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Is Matthew staff is an exaggeration.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Okay, he is better than his numbers, Lamar's numbers. We
just went over it. He now has the best passer
rating in the history of the National Flow League.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
For you to say that Sean is outrageous to me.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
In his last twenty games, he has fifty seven touchdowns
and four picks, three of them off of wide receivers hands.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Can you go look at the last year in the
middle of the year when they were averaging thirteen points
a game for six straight games. Come on, Sean, don't
be a prisoner of the moment. He's not the best
quarterback in the league.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Matthew Stafford has been in the league since I think.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And his first game. I've been watching him his whole career.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
So I can say something about Matthew Stafford and it
not be a knock on Lamar Jackson if you want
to tell me, Lamar Jackson is the most talented quarterback. Absolutely,
but I don't know how many of the Rams first
how much of the rounds first two games you watched.
Stafford's playing at god level right now.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I just gave you Lamar has passed Aaron Rodgers for
the best passer rating. Not this season, not last season,
the history of the NFL. Really, Sean, really, I want
you to rethink this. Matthew Stafford is better than Lamar.
I want this on tape. Is that what you're telling
me right now?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (18:13):
If I had to pick one quarterback for one game.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Please, that's not what you just said. That's not what
you just said. You said he was the best quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
In the league. That's not what that's.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
No, that's different from one game you said he was
the best.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
I said it right now.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
He's not the best. That's awful. Us a terrible tap.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
I would buy stock on the Rams to make it
to the super Bowl. I think the Stafford is gonna
showcase the level he's playing at this Sunday versus vehicles he's.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Been He's been playing very, very well. Part of that
is Devontae Adams. How how big of that was that
for the Cooper Cup? Really good career with the Rams.
But obviously the last couple of years was slowing down.
How big of a pickup was that for them? Getting DeVante?
Speaker 9 (18:57):
I think it's extremely important. And you look at Lamar's
elevation as a passer is because they've continued to get
better around him. I mean, this is the most talented
group of pass catchers he's ever had. Same thing with
the Rams. You put guys around Stafford and he makes
them even better. It's not like a tool you can
put any receiver in the history of NFL in Miami.
Tool is limited, and what he can do, like Stafford
(19:19):
is taking advantage of having not just Pooka now not
just Karen Williams, but also Devonte Adams. I'm telling this
Rams team is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
He ain't the best quarterback in the league. I'm sorry,
I can't even get over that. All right, let me
ask you, no, no, no, I just let's move on.
We'll be here all that.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We'll be all that.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
I want to explain. I want to explain to your
fan base where this trauma and her comes from. Tram.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I watched the guy. I watched his whole career. I
watched his whole career.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Lions lead reporter, so he's so.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I was a columnist. I covered every game for twenty years. Okay,
Homing Road. I watched every game.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I'm not some guy who just watched highlights. I watched
the games. I'm not hurt.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I'm just I watched every game in person at every
stadium around the country. Okay, I watched the guy. Don't
tell me that I watched his very first pass in
the NFL. I watched his entire career. Let's go to
the Kansas City Chiefs and where they are. Obviously they
play the Giants in Jersey. Any chance they lose that
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and start zero and three?
Speaker 9 (20:28):
I don't think so. I think the Chiefs make a
statement here and people that are giving up on the Chiefs,
I wouldn't because in a couple of weeks they're gonna
be fully healthy. When they get Red she Rice back
some suspension, and Xavi Worthy is fully healthy from you
know that shoulder injury, They're gonna be a different offense.
I think you're seeing the versatility in Patrick Mahomes. He's
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losing his legs to try and create, you know, more
explosive plays. I'm not buying Russ last week. I just
think Dallas is awful in the secondary. I think the
Chiefs win is easily and with and with Marchin.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I'm still on the same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
When we and Rob talked about this, he thinks the
Chiefs aren't gonna make the postseason.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I say the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
They stayed in both of their games against two really
good teams and the Eagles in the charge.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
No, they used to win those games they won last
year when they were ten or eleven and zero in
one score games.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Everything went their way. There was a struggle.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Patrick Mahomes win fifteen and one as a starter and
got zero first places votes for MVP.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
That's how poorly he played.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
When you look at quarterback play, How can that happen
in the quarterback League? Sean, Really, you lead to the
fifteen and one and didn't get one first place vote.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
But that was that was last year, And for context,
Josh Allen and.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Lamar were incredible start last year.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
But I'm talking strictly the two losses thus far. Patrick
has played much better. He's not been the reason the
Chiefs loss. And I'm just saying he.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Threw it pick.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Didn't he throw a pick at the end of the game.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
Yeah, I don't know that there's a quarterback walk in
the face of the it that had not thrown an
interception at some point. Stop being a prisoner at the moment.
I'm talking macro big picture. When it's all said and done,
the Chiefs will be in the playoffs, are going to
be dangerous if they're healthy.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I'm still the same thing with you, Rob and I.
We've been going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
With that about the Lions, the Lions big game of
Monday Night Football.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
I have the.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Lions not making the playoffs taking a huge step backwards
this year, so we.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Really don't know yet. They didn't look good in Week one,
but Green Bay looks like they're really good specific girl defense,
and they had a great Week two, but they played
the Bears. The Bears may be all time bad when
this is all said and done. I think this is
a good benchmark for Detroit. I think they're playing Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Right, Yes, yes, even if they lose.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
It's just about how the game looks. Do they look
like they belong on that same level as a Baltimore
Ravens team. So I haven't given up or I'm not
buying the Lions yet. I'm still taking await and see approach.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, this will be a good one. And you mentioned too,
like it's how we talked about that week one. I said, Man,
they didn't show up against Packers. They gotta be because
it was one thing if they couldn't stop him scoring,
but they could score, they couldn't score, and they couldn't
stop them. So that was bad right there. And let's
go to a couple of couple of quarterbacks. I'm looking
at you. Aside from Matthew, Stafford's playing well. Justin Herbert
(23:14):
might say to you, what about me, I'm playing well,
I'm playing some of the best football I played. Where
would you what's going on with him? Where do you
rank him?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, Stafford's better than him too.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Apparently, Well Stafford is better than Justin Herbert. But Justin
Herbert is starting to change the narrative. And what's interesting
is Quinton Johnson is starting to look like him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And that's made all the difference for this offense because,
like I said, you get some organizations that really surround
their quarterback with a lot of talent. The Charges really
hadn't done that. Last year was pretty much lam mccauckey
(23:45):
and nothing. You know, for most of the season. Quinton
Johnson looked like he has his confidence. If this is sustainable,
then they're dangerous. I think Amalia and Hampton is still
at some point gonna find his groove. The rookie running back,
and they're putting a lot more in Herbert's hand. I
think about hardball, He's always been kind of this, running
the ball, play field. We shouldn't get the game that
they are past first team right now. Herbert looks really good.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Tenan Allen was a big pick up for them to
get him back as well. That was a good pickup.
Just fits, you know, having that safety blanket for them.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Absolutely, and now they looked like an NFL offense when
they show up to the stadium. But he's a big
question It's a big question mark here. Quenton Johnson has
more bad film than good film. He has to continue
to play at the level he's playing at.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Anybody else you want to take a look at this
weekend just to see where they are.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I want to see is the fit that we've seen
with Daniel Jones and Shane Stinking is it sustainable? Because
I truly believe that Jayden Hurts and Daniel Jones are
perfect fits for this offense. Remember sticking was the OC
and Philly when the Eagles lost and can't sit. They're
a perfect fit for this offense. Hey, this is a
(25:00):
faintable man. Daniel Jones is having a kind of year
that man Staty might be in the Coach of the
Year conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And this way early for that man, I've seen so
much bad Daniel Jones.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
That said if, I said if, but if you look
at the coach offense, Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman Junior, I
love Tyler Warren, the rookie Alec Pearson, serviceable downs like
they got some pieces there, especially for what Stykey wants
to do. So I'm interrested in the coach and it's
just an aberration that we're watching us. It's gonna be sustainable,
(25:31):
all right, man, We'll.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
We'll be watching the games as well, sewn as always.
We appreciate you, man, Hey, last.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
Thing before our go Brewers are winning the World Series.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
They are been great. They be beating up on the dot.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Take that's too all right, Sea, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
On the udio, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
We got to talk about what teams have to win
Week three, What teams have to get the job done.
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Speaker 1 (27:18):
Pickoff after that last call. So much to do, so
little time here on the couple, and let's talk about
Jalen Hurts, of course, the ragning Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
He won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Everybody to me was like, just stop sa Quon and
you'll beat the Eagles. And okay, Saquon was stopped, and
guess what. The Eagles still won the super Bowl and
Jalen Hurts was a big part of that. But the
offense is off to a slow start and he's taking
some responsibility.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Ian right, we have.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Sound, correct, we do have sound. Yeah, like you said,
I mean something else important context. He's actually the only
starting quarterback left.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
In the NFL who has not thrown a passing touchdown.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Exactly, who has yet to throw a passing touchdown.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
That that's the big thing right now.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
And they are too and O.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
So it's like how much to make exactly, But here's
what Jalen had to say.
Speaker 10 (28:13):
More importantly, just overall operation and how we function, how
we flow, our synchronization, I think that I take accountability
for a lot of it and just how we go
out there, because that's my job. My job to go
out there and be the general orchestrate everything and ultimately
make plays. And you know, given the opportunities we had,
(28:34):
you know, I'm very critical of myself of trying to
make the most of what's given to us.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
And so.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
There's definitely some evolution that we can do. There's definitely
some things that we can grow in. But I look
inward on all of those things and I just want
to make the most of the opportunities that we do have.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I think sometimes we can be kind of hypocritical. We say, hey,
I want you to win, and I want you all
about winning.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Winning. Would you always say wins and lost the only
thing gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Mean a short menu. It's a short menu.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
We say that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
But then we'll say, oh, well, well, well it's gotta
look like this, and I want it to feel like that.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
And I get it because.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
At times I've been worried sitting there saying, man, hey,
if I'm the Eagles, if they clamp down on the
running game and I have to have Jalen Hurts get
it done.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Can he and that's what they said in the Super Bowl.
You gotta admit that going in that was the way.
All they gotta do is stop sha kwand he got
all a million yards. He's the reason that they will winning.
It ain't Jalen Hurt.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
And Jalen Hurts, to his credit, has found a way
to get it done when needed to. Jalen Hurts what
he's done in college. He won a lot and then
they tang to it and everybody's like, no, your turn
is over. He goes Oklahoma, won a lot with Oklahoma.
Then he comes to the league. All right, we'll see
what he is. Maybe he's won a lot since he's
been in the NFL. You look at him as he
(29:51):
since he's really been the starter with the Eagles. I mean,
he goes eight and seven, fourteen and one, eleven and six,
he goes twelve to thirteen, he's two and all.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Right. Now he's been the two.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Super Bowls, he's won one and he's out playing Patrick
Mahomes in both of them. So Jalen Hurts is essentially
I keep thinking about him as like a Terry Bradshaw.
And you've heard me references Terry Bradshaw could have some games,
or he's airing it out because they don't have a
bunch of receivers. Then then it was maybe handing up
to Franco Harris. And then some just.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Have great stats.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Stats aren't amazing golden, but they didn't throw the football
like that, and.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
He was perfect for that team. What do you need
me to do. I'm gonna be tough. I'm gonna be
a guy. Take the take the sacks, I'll take that.
I mean the hits. I'm gonna get the ball out,
I'll run the ball, whatever it took. And he took
that to the tune of four Super Bowl rings. And
I think Jalen Hurts is on that trajectory. We're gonna
look up at the end of his career. He's gonna
have three. He might have four. But all I know
(30:48):
is he keeps being on winning teams and they keep
playing winning football. Is it ugly at times? Yes, the
tush push want to put you to sleep at times? Yes,
there's a j Brown gotta be looking up like why
do I have one pass a target?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Why am I reading a book from the New York
Times bestsellers on the bench during the game.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
But at the end of the day, it's effective. And
last point I'll talk to you Rob.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The only criticism, what at least the big one I'll have,
is I will say next year will be interesting if
they legislate out the tush push. And the reason why
I say that is that play not just when we
think of it as a touchdown like they're on the
fourth and they're on the goal. The reason why I'm
interested in seeing that is because the times they're fourth
(31:33):
and third and two, third and three, and they do
it twice from the fifty yard line point being they
extend drives because of that that ultimately can get them
points or ultimately take time out the clock. And if
they can't do that as much, I do wonder how
that might change the way that you know they're they're
strategy in their offense, and I would like to see that.
But he's been productive man, and then we can't act
(31:54):
like he's not thrown for almost four thousand yards and
twenty twenty three or thirty seven hundre yards in twenty
twenty two. So he's he's been able to get wins
and victories. He's been whatever that team has needed him
to be. He's never going to be a top eight quarterback,
seven quarterback. When it comes to passing stats, He's never
going to be a top six, top five quarterback. When
you think aesthetically, when you think, when you close your
(32:15):
eyes and I think of a quarterback justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes,
Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford. You know those guys are going
to cross your mind when you think of a quarterback
before him.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
But those eyes aren't winning at the rad He's winning.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But to me, Jalen Hurts doesn't have to prove anything
to anybody. I'm dead serious, Like I think it's just
window dressing because Patrick Mahomes could have bad numbers, but
he makes one play and you're good with that, right,
Oh yeah, No, he makes a winning playof I don't
care if he had one hundred and thirty yards very which.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
One is it? Which one is it?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Because he ain't the Patrick Mahomes from year one or
two when he's lighting up the field and scoring fifty points.
But you're okay with that because he gets it, he
keeps him alive, makes a.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Play, makes a third down conversion.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And here's the other part.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
When he threw three for three hundred yards in the
Super Bowl and had four touchdowns, one passing in three rushing.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
They lost. Okay, so what like he can't throw the football.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
He did it and when toe to toe and if
it wasn't for that costly fumble, they might have won
that Super Bowl. He might be two to zero and
could have been Patrick Mahomes twice. Okay, he played great
that game and had a costly fumble last year. Last year,
all I heard pregame all the former NFL players, Oh
the playground, the playbook for this is simple. Just stop
(33:41):
sa Kwan Barkerho had a million yards on the ground.
He's the reason why they were so good this year.
He's the reason why he had fifty seven yards on
twenty five carries. Two point three yards of Carry't.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Gonna cut it you.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
If you were going with that, you ain't winning no
Super Bowl last year. Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And all I'm gonna say is he made all the
throws you needed to make Jalen Herbs and that Super Bowl.
I don't care about the style points. I don't care.
This guy has helped them win.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
He did it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
We've seen him in two Super Bowls now one where
he was throwing the ball and have four touchdowns, this
one where he didn't didn't go crazy but right, and
and he won the Super Bowl MVP because why Kelviny
made every throw that they needed?
Speaker 3 (34:39):
He did it. What does he have to prove to people?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
The challenge is, Robert, if I jump in here, is
I think we're in a quarterback You could argue, maybe
like a quarterback Renois Sounce, where there's a lot of
good quarterbacks. I mean, there's a handful of great where
we're like, whoa, that guy's amazing, But like Jordan Love
looks like he could be one of those guys. Eventually,
what's Jaden Daniels looks like okay, eventually right, And then
you got, like I said, the Joe Burrows and you
already you know the four horsemen with the Joe and
(35:04):
the Josh and the Lamar and Patrick. But then you
got Matthew Staffordson Aaron Rodgers still out there. So I
think the challenge is he just doesn't fit the mold
that people's brains go. But this just doesn't make sense.
Why is he having all the success looking at these
other guys who were, you know, much more fitting the
traditional mold. But again, some guys just fit their team
(35:26):
and do exactly what it takes to win.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
And it happens all the time. I mean you, if
you want to use another example, different.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Sport, Tim Duncan, whatn't always is flashy as Kevin Garnett.
If you look at the power forwards or Dirk Novinsky
fadeaway jumpers, one legged jumpers and hitting threes and all that,
and maybe didn't have the gaudy numbers of a prime
Karl Malone or Charles Barkley.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You know what he did? What y'all need me to
do tonight?
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You need me to just block a few shots, put
a couple of you know, nice jump books in and
off the glass, come talk?
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Okay, what do y'all need me tonight? Oh you need
thirty and twenty?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Now?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Okay, cool? What do y'all need me tonight?
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And he just did that to the tune of five
championships and what he only lose once. So I think
that's a you know, if I had to use, I
know it's not apples apples, but an example of a
guy who is who can just say I'm gonna do
what you need me to do to win and to
his tune. And I've been critical at times or more
I would say critical. I've been more concerned, Like I
don't know, man, I thought last year you would concern
(36:21):
going into the Superowl because I knew they were a
good team. My question was if you got into it
with the Rams and I you know, you gotta have
a shootout. You got into it with the Chiefs and
the Super Bowl, you had to have a shootout. Could
he get it done? And he shut me up. He said, look, man,
I can do what I can.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I can do what I mean, And it's about making
throws at certain plays, you know, Like we talked about
Patrick Mahomes, so yeah, but we were talking about the Chargers,
h Herbert and Justin Herbert, he makes a play with
his legs that that that gives him the first doubt
that iced to get the game right. It's something that
I could play. You gotta make a play. And in
Jalen Hurts's case, he made some throws in that Super
(36:58):
Bowl where you needed that first down or whatever to
keep the clock running, and he did it.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
He got it, he made it happen.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And another guy, I know, we bring him up all
the time, but Lamar Jackson does that ninety percent of
the time. That other ten percent is to me, the
slight difference between him, Patrick Mahomes and even Jalen Hurts
of they make that play a handful more times, and
that's been the separate I do believe Lamar is gonna
get it right at some point, but that's.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
He breaks through.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm telling you, Like.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Rob g remember we were talking about if he messed
around gets one, don't mess around and get two. We
gotta have some real hard conversations around Lamar has ranked
because it's that's here's you know, you go to a
reference with his basketball football reference and they you can
click on the thing they'll say bio and awards andou
his awards insteads are gonna be absurd.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You ever hear of not having enough room on the internet,
like that's where we are.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It's gonna be a full lit But Jalen Hurts His
is gonna be with the wins, wins and you know,
and and percentages of winning and the Super Bowl appearances because.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
He might not have the MVPs and all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But so far, I mean, there's a reason why Jayalen
Hurts can say, I know y'all talk about them and
them and them and y'all don't bring me up as much.
But I'm the only one that's been you know, outside
of uh Patrick Mahomes, I'm the only one who's been
to two super He got the only one that outplayed
the guy. I'll keep playing number one, and I got
got World Series and I got an MVP and so
(38:27):
so you know, he can definitely say that for himself.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Does Jalen
Hurts have anything to prove to you? Are you still
a doubter or still on enough defense on him on
how good he really is or not?
Speaker 5 (38:45):
What do you believe?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Like, Yes, he is that dude, Kelvin And I think
he's that dude, right, Are you convinced now? Closer to it?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I think he's exactly what the Philadelphia Eagles need.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I think he is that guy. All Right, seven seven
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little NFL action. You mentioned something, Rob, you said, Man,
the teams that are supposed to be good, they've been
struggling in baseball lately. It's just like weird it really.
You got all of the met's been struggling. You got
the Tigers, Yankees and Dodgers, and yeah, it's it is
pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
As we get to the play playoffs, so getting close,
like there's only nine games left, which is just amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
You know, baseball is a six month yep, every day.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, and the thing that we're down to just nine
games and you know everything's not settled.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
That's great. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
That's what ends up being great because last season, man,
the postseason need to be amazing.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
It was great last year, yeah, we were.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
This year it could be even better because it's so flawed.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
All the teams are so flawed.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I don't think anybody really knows who's going to be
in a World Series.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I don't nobody that I wonder what I'd be interested
to see what Vegas says. You know, at some point
once the playoffs kind of start, all right, so real quick,
before we break a game with some NFL teams that
are owing to some are one in something and they said, yeah,
we gotta break down who needs to.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Win, righty, Right?
Speaker 7 (40:47):
So I guess let's start with the Chiefs. I feel
like that's a good end point here. Kansas City Chiefs,
like you guys mentioned earlier in the show, they're going
to be facing the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Uh in New Jersey. So Giants are the home team there.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
The New York Football Giants, Sure, New York Football Giants.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
You know what they called football giants? New York Football Giants?
Do you know? Well, because there's the uh the San
Francisco Giants used.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Well, they used to be there.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, the baseball team was their first. So when they
wrote in the paper they had to say, you couldn't
say New York Giants. People weren't sure what team you're
talking about.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
So, yes, the New York Football Giants. But so the
Chiefs are one of the teams here. How badly do
they need a win this week?
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah, they gotta win this one. You can't go in three.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Uh And and also you can't lose to the Giants,
who are I don't think they're we don't know exactly
what they are, and they look like at an offensive
not last week and then they look bad week one.
But you gotta win this one. You're still fighting for
playoff position. I believe they still ultimately make it. Rob
does not. But in order to can you imagine they
gotta win this one if they lose to the.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Giants here in Jersey, just say another close one and
they don't win.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Would change?
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Would that change? Just like maybe? Do you know what
I mean? What would you owe in three?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (41:59):
I got a bit about it.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Seventy five eighty percent chance of making a post, but
you get what I'm saying, that's gonna drop down to
about forty for me, thirty five even?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And what about you if they lose to the Giants, Like.
Speaker 7 (42:12):
I mean, I don't I don't know how to put
an actual percentage on it, but but yeah, I mean
if the Chiefs go to oher and three, it gets
pretty hard just because the rest of the division is
so difficult.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Like, the Chargers look so good.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
You know, I might keep saying that.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
You know, everybody keeps saying this division and the same
thing to me with the NFC Nord they're on that division.
I'm like, only thing I know is the Packers look
very good and the Lions look like they should be good.
And that's it, you know what I mean? All that
dont that division? I don't know yet. We'll figure that still.
The AFC West is still open to me.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
We'll see who's next next up the Denver Broncos, so
they're not owing to yet. They're one and one, but
they are facing the uh, the aforementioned Los Angeles Chargers
here who are two and zero.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
So how badly do the Broncos need to win this week?
Speaker 1 (42:55):
They need to win that game otherwise the Chargers going
to jump out front, you know what I mean? Like,
I think that's a huge game, I really do. And
also to get a quality win. Where is that game not?
Speaker 3 (43:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
This is their home open up, but they were in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
But you get it.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
You get it though, if they Denver is able to
come to Los Angeles win a game against the team
everybody's going gaga over over and beat them.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It would be a big shot in the arm huge.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
Completely agree, and I think too because everybody was high
on the Broncos. Some people even had the Broncos maybe
winning this division. Some people, you know, they were really
big on them. And you can't start off one and
two knowing you got to see the Chargers again, knowing
you got to see the Chiefs twice, you know, and
obviously the Raiders aren't. They aren't as bad as they
have been the last handful of years. So you you
got to just in your division alone, you're gonna have
(43:45):
to compete. So I don't think you can go down
and be one and two and feel comfortable so early.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:53):
Next up the Chicago Bears. They are the home team
this week against the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys are also sort
of in de inspiration mode at one, one and one there,
but the Bears are the zero to two team in
this matchup.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
How badly do they need to win?
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Now?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
They need to win?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
You don't You don't want to just be buried and
then you know, the whole season if you win and
beat the Cowboys, you know, that's a win. And the
Cowboys aren't that great and they're on the road playing
in Chicago, right, you want to be able to fight back,
and I think that a bounce back game after getting
getting you know, a fifty piece go on you.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta have fight to
save your season.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
And I'm not saying that winning is gonna turn everything around,
but it's just like a fight to push back.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
You can't beat Dallas at home, man, who are.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
You beating and flush back that Chicago noise? Right if
they lose, because that Dallas can put up some points,
we know that. And if they lose, you know, I'm
making up thirty eight to eighteen or some thirty eight
seventeen something.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
It just where now the noise gets loud.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
It's Caleb the guy Ben john Maybe Ben Johnson should
have stuck as a coordinator.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
And if they if they don't have a good game and.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Win, and it's gonna get very loud in the Windy
City for sure. All Right, man, appreciate that we got
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