September 26, 2025 • 34 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman’s criticisms of Russell Wilson feel oddly personal and explain why they were so disappointed to hear Shedeur Sanders say he thinks he’s better than a handful of current starting NFL quarterbacks. Plus, former NFL quarterback and FOX Sports Radio NFL analyst Shaun King swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines heading into Week 4 in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Odd Couple.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Robin Kelvin on the Fucking Flashback Friday and as we
always are joined on Friday, as we got our man,
Sewn King, former NFL quarterback Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst
Real Sean King on x Yes, right, we're now with
the King.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh, what's up, Sewn?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I almost didn't want you back on the show unless
you could admit Matthew Staffords not the best quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
But we won't even go there. I'll just leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, hey, Sean, I had to hear about that for
an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
He was still I'm trying to warm up my food,
he started telling me at the microwave.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Well, I mean, outside of Rob putting the voodoo curse
on the field goal block units of about ten teams
all at once. The Rails went to Philly and out
play they win to.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lose Sports has the short Vnue Okay, thank you? All right, right,
well we're gonna go move off of that. Let's go here.
Who needs up to win more? Is it Baltimore or
is it the Chiefs who needs to win this game?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Baltimore? I mean the Chiefs of excuses. I mean that
without Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice for most of this
Baltimore for the most part, is healthy. I mean who
they miss in Isaiah likely?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Well what about?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
What?
Speaker 6 (01:44):
What about the division?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Like, seriously, I get what you're saying, Baltimore, but the division,
the where Baltimore is in the AFC North, they have
a chance to win that division.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Who's in their way? Cleveland's bad?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Uh, the Bengals don't have their quarterback and the Steelers
have a forty year old quarterback in the division.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Could they still not win that division?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Well, I think they got more room for Era, especially
considering how the Chargers are playing and right even different,
I mean, Denver's lost a couple of games late, So
I think the Chiefs have less marsin for Era than
the Ravens to especially considering Joe Burrow is probably gonna
be out for the rest of the year and Jake
Browning definitely didn't do a lot to build any confidence
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in the game versus the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Let me let me squeeze in this real quick. Uh,
what about Russell Wilson? If you're if would you go
and make a call to get Russell Wilson If you're
the Bengals and say, dude, we got a team, we
got players, we can't give up on the season, would.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
You do that?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
No, Russell's the third best quarterback on the Giants. Like,
if you're don't go get one of the Giants Kipps,
I'd get Jamis.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And crab Legs to be named later right now.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm just saying, like we're being honest.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
A season actsosition like Russ in twenty twenty five. I
know he blitzkrieg the Cowboys, but I anticipate a lot
of quarterbacks are gonna do that. I don't think Russ
is an elite thrower of the football Jamis is, I mean,
if not.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, when Jamis throws a ton of interceptions, that's why
he can't be a starting quarterback.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
He'll throw you four, but he throws four interceptions.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Come on, if you put Jamis on that team with
Jamar Chase and t Higgins and Jessekee and Chase, I disagree.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He's a turnover machine. That's why he's not a starter.
He has so much talent. He gives up the ball
too much.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
He just does.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He does.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
You go back, if you go back, if you go back,
and the results matter, but if you go back. Jamis
is also one of the most unlucky quarterbacks is that
we've ever seen, Like Brock Purdy has more balls deflected
to hit the grass than anybody I've ever seen. If
Jamis throws the ball and it's not perfect, it gets picked.
I mean, if it bounces off something like all of
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them falling the hands of the defense. There's some times
I think that will regress and this will be a
chance for him. People had written off Sam Donald, look
at him. People had written off Daniel Jones, look at him.
I know it's early for both of those quarterbacks, but
maybe Jamis is in that same I don't know, Sean.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I feel like I feel like Jamis loves his role
as a backup, eating w's with people having another you
can't eat another man, wan man.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
All I'm saying is I was a GM of the Bengals,
and I was going to call the Giants it would
be for Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Now I get it. I think I think the ceiling
is still higher.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I get what you mean by that, even though he
turns out he's more explosive at this point. Let me
go here with me, all, ain't nobody denying that? Let
me ask you what just brought up Sam Donald? I
want to go to that game, but I don't want
to talk about Sam Donal. I want to talk about
who is Kyler Murray? You you know, the position you coached,
the position you played, the position. Who is Kyler Murray?
After all this, I feel like he gets more of
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a past. And so many other young quarterbacks give or
take a year above his age, maybe a year older,
who we would be criticized in our expecting more from
or we say the talent's there book, why aren't the
w stacking up? Kyler Murray kind of just gets to
skate with nobody looking. Well.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's interesting because and shout out to the big Wells
who always treated me great when I was there the
Cardinals are irrelevant, like the coverage of that particular brand
is non existent. So that's why Kyler gets a pass.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
I'm not stand I think the lesson to be learned
is because we have a quarterback that's at a point
in his career where his contract is up. If I
don't think said quarterback, whether that be Kyler, Murray or Tua,
if I don't think, I know, win a championship with
that quarterback, I'd rather not have one then give that
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quarterback a multi year deal at a price point where
we can't.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Move on from him. And I think the Cardinals and
the Dolphins are in the same spot. They gave those
extensions at the going rate and they now know. I
think it inside of both organizations that we can't win
a championship with this god they're stuck.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah. Uh, it's you're damned if you do, damned if
you don't. If you don't sign the guy, then you
wind up paying later, like the Cowboys wind up with
Dak paying him sixty million dollars, you know, because they
didn't they they didn't sign him earlier because showing the
longer you go, the more it's gonna cost you. It
doesn't matter whether you're good or not, like the asking
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price or what they decide they're gonna pay you. I mean,
that's that's the problem with their paying the position rather
than the player.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I agree with that totally. I'm just saying, if I'm
an organization, I'd rather go a year or two trying
to find a guy then to be stuck for four
or five. That's all I was saying.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I agree. I just think that's where they are. I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Sometimes I would rather walk away uh than pay some
of those guys.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Let's let's talk about Sam Donald uh and and the Seahawks, and.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I'm not Sam.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Sam Donald lost it for me when he had the
two bad games at the end of the year, and
I was totally in lockstep with Minnesota moving on from him.
Where are you on Sam Donald and his long range?
Not just playing well for some games, but can you
win with him?
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Is he the guy?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I think he's a good regular season quarterback. He's got
to prove that he can handle the pressure of the playoffs. See,
I agree with you. I think it was a game,
a division game that the last game of the year.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
The Lions.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Remember that and they were in the red zone four
times and he couldn't remember, they couldn't score.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
He was awful. So he's got to play his way
out of that. But for Seattle, if they were going
to get off of Gino Smith, he was the best
available option for what they want to do in so far,
so good.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Let me go here real quick, Sean the Eagles Buccaneers.
That should be a good game. You got the Buccaneers
who are playing some good football. Baker comes back the
Eagles obviously, as we know, rating champs. But I want
to start with the Eagles and AJ Brown saying, give
me more targets. We could be more explosive. We got
some dogs on this team. On the other side, people say,
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hey man, you're winning. Mind your businesses, keep playing football,
keep winning. Where do you come out on this with
Are you more aligned with Aj Brown, like find his
way to make this more explosive or a win is
a win is a win.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I think if you're going to allocate resources at the
position like they have with the contract they gave Aj,
in the contract they gave Devontae Smith, why then not
use them. I think what Aj showed in the Rams game,
he doesn't have to be open to be great. I mean,
he wasn't open on a lot of those catches, but
he's a very good contested catch guy. He gets extremely frustrated.
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That's why he started reading books on the sideline. As
accomplished as Jalen Hurts has been, he goes to these
stretches where he just does not attempt to push the
ball to its outside receivers. It's worked for Philly so far.
I think Philly could be even better on.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
The play really well in the second half though. I mean, yeah, touchdowns,
I mean I don't. I just don't when you're winning.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I'm not no, no, not you, not you. I'm just
saying like that. That seems so selfish to me.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It'd be one thing if you're lost and you couldn't
move the ball in the second half, you know what
I mean, and you didn't use your weapons. But when
you're winning and that, guys, what is he's seventeen or
eighteen and zero in his last eighteen games.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Look at it from this standpoint, we're happy with the
success we've had, but as we get more experience and
more time under our built we should also be evolving
in a positive way. We should be getting better, right,
we should be getting more consistent utilizing all of our
weapons week in and week out. So it's not a criticism,
it's just something. If I'm Sirianni, I challenged the offense
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to continue to get better. They're more dynamic when they
throw the ball outside because it opens up more space
for Saquon and Jalen to run the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, they got to figure out where to get Saquon going.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I mean, right now is over, it's all done.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, he didn't look at anything. It's not that he's
not town this in all right, Well, sup.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I wouldn't say teams are teams are loading the box.
They're saying we're gonna take sa Quan away and force
Hurts to beat us.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So and that's how that works.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
And yeah, that that didn't work out in the Super Bowl,
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Hey, Jalen is the defending Super Bowl champion and Super
Bowl MVP. I will say this though, before I go
shout out to all the bad quarterbacks that Shadua talked about.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, including including Chador because he can't even get off
the bench and they have the worst radio quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Hey, you know we're getting on that a little bit
later in the show, so you can bet on that
you I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
All right, good day.
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Speaker 1 (11:52):
Almost blew a gasket last night. This is what I
talked about all the time, Calvin this. I'm not against
athletes being on Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
People say, oh, you just yelling goodnit podcast.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The problem I have is that they have skin in
the game, and more than us Kelvin who haven't played.
It's personal. It's always personal when they're ripping on each other.
Right when Jady McCoy called Dak Prescott ass on national television,
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or or like somebody's Cam Newton when his hat's not
too tight and he's telling because he didn't win a
Super Bowl or because he didn't have this or that,
it just sounds personal. And last night, the personal attacks
against Russell Wilson, which just crazy to me.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
And we do have the sound. So let's hear that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
First Tony Gonzales for and then Richard Sherman paint talking
about Russell No, not talking about Russell Wilson, trashing him.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Do you think we've seen the last of Russell Wilson?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Honestly, I hope we have.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
And I say that because just looking at him and
his career, his legacy, like he talked about, if ever
there was somebody who played himself out of a Hall
of Fame, it's Russell Wilson, really, And I say that
because look at what he's what's happened ever since he
left Seattle.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
When he was in Seattle, he was the man. He
was making these good plays. He won a Super went
to two of them.
Speaker 10 (13:31):
But as soon as he left there, he went to
Denver sign that big old deal.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
They paid him thirty nine million dollars to leave.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
He goes to Pittsburgh, plays there one year, he's out
of there, and now he goes here and has three games.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I just don't know if it's gonna get any better.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
And I don't want to see him on a sideline
holding a clipboard.
Speaker 11 (13:45):
I think you got to judge his career off when
the legion the Boom was there, he had a legendary
defense and all time defense, and how much success he had,
and then without that legendary defense, the success he had,
without that legendary defense, he's been four and eleven, seven
and eight owing three to start with the Giants like
that's he was a winning football player in Seattle, and
people said, hey, winning his football player, all this good stuff,
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all these accolades, and now you get to go on
your own and you get to crew pay. I'm this
great quarterback, I'm this guy that's going to be dominant,
and it just hasn't worked out that way.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Before we get to our takes, Kelvin, uh huh, Rob
G will give you this the facts that were, of
course not addressed when they were talking about his stats
and when the Legion of Boom gone and and he
couldn't play and he was terrible and all that. Okay,
Rob G, let's get some facts. Everybody's sitting around that
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desk cashing those checks. But nobody will push back, nobody
will challenge any of the stuff that's being tossed around
as fat and none of it is fact.
Speaker 12 (14:48):
Yeah, So sher made a point, said, hey, he was
only great with the Legion of Boom, and he pointed
out the last three and a half years where the
record has been dismal. Right, we'll be great, honest with you.
It was bad what he neglected to mention where there's
a whole middle ground in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Between I thought that immediately between after the Legion of
Boom had disintegrated and before he left to go to Day.
Speaker 12 (15:08):
Yes, during that time, Russell Wilson with the Seahawks ten
and six, eleven and five, twelve and four, and they
anted badly six and eight.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Calvin right there in those three seasons there.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But but Richard Sherman is telling you as fact that
he was garbage once the Legion of Boom was done.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Rich Just say it, Richard, I can't stand Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
And I'm gonna sit.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Here and give you a bold faced lie on national
streaming television.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
And there are no facts to it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And I'll just say it as gospel and people at
Homo watching and they'll think these are all true. Why
why couldn't somebody stand up and say, Richard, your numbers
are fogazy, They're fraudulent, They're terrible.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
They don't add up.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What about that twelve fourth season, what about that eleven
win season without the legion of boom. That's why we
need journalists on the set with these gone crazy former
athletes who are jaded and jealous and give you misinformation
and all they care about is their personal vandettas against
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other athletes. Is pathetic, it's sickening, it's hard to stomach
and watch.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, you're on your campaign trail right there, brother, yom Hey,
I'm a vote at the prom Sterling.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Junior, Rob Sterling Jr.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
This is where you're not wrong thirty three and fifteen
without the legion of boom. So, Richard, if you want
to have the conversation, we can have the conversation. Because
I don't think Russell Wilson is a shoe into the
Hall of Fame. Now, I'm totally open to the conversation. However,
he'd ignored basically half for run with y'all, half a
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run without y'all, and he was good both runs.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So I Richard Shermon was triming on that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Now I heard Tony Gonzalez sounded more almost like a
love of the care saying, I don't want to picture
you as clipboard guy. I want to think of you
as you know how I thought of you in Seattle
because it's been rough the last handful of seasons. So
I'm with you on Richard Shermon, and it's clearly personal
for him, just say, clearly personal. For Marshawn Lynch, it's
clearly personal. For a handful of other guys from those
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Seattle teams, it's clearly personal.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
For Sean Payton. It might be personal for the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
We know it's personal for the I forgot the offensive
coordinator and a quarterback coach.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I know they had it out last year.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
So there is something about Russell Wilson that's rubbing people
the wrong way everywhere he goes.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Maybe he has a good life that they don't need.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
He's asking people for his own office, he's asking guys
the schedule time to talk to me.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Far have had his own locker room with the Jets. Ever,
nobody ever talks about that. He didn't even dress with
his teammates.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well, I mean that might not be the guy to
be trying to talk with. You know, he wasn't an
example of being a great city. But you get my point.
But that's what honestly does worry me. Like with Russell Wilson,
so I'm gonna jump off on a different process. I'm
with you on a personal's clear as day. With Richard
Sherman is scream, personal is scream. I don't like the
dude because there was no facts to it. But I
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am open to the conversation of guys who are not
shoeins still having a chance to gain or lose a
spot in the Hall of Fame. Matthew Stafford ain't a shoein.
He can gain if he messed around and win another
Super Bowl this year, next year he might That might
be the cementing point for him to get in. Right,
But you're teetering when you're Russell Wilson, You're right there.
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You were at the club, hanging out in the entrance
looking seeing all the ladies in the club, but you
ain't fully in yet, and now the bouchers can come
and bounce you up out of there when you have
a run of four or five bad season.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, but that getting kicked out of teams.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
So I hear that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
But when you make it as if he never played
any good except for when he had a great defense.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
That's where I just have to.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
That's because he became me and Rob g and you
have talked about this before on and off the air.
He might be one of the greatest deep ball passes
in the last twenty twenty five years, like he's had
some success. But here's a couple of things where I
would get concerned if I was Russell Wilson, his agent
and his wife or friend or brother, anybody around his
camp who are like, hey, you're you're You're a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The concern is how the last five years.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Have gone different teams getting kicked out of those teams
so much so they want to pay you the lead.
That's a that's bad. Then you get to Pittsburgh supposed
to be the savior. It looks good for a handful
of games and it looks awful. Then you go to
Giants when they don't even want to start dark yet
they want you to take the thing.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Jet goes horrible.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Now three games that he's starting, and when you think
of him in the Super Bowl, here's a really bad one.
Because Eli Manning is not a Hall of Fame talent
to me, but I understand because he has the Super
Bowls and he has super Bowl moments. It's the opposite
for Russell Wilson. When you think of him in the
Super Bowl, you think of one of the worst calls
in the sports, in the history of sports, and that
was not giving the ball to beast Bow who had
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gotten you all the way down the field, got you to.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
The dag on what two yard line.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
The Patriots want to let you in so they can
have a little bit of time to score, and you say, nah,
we're gonna pass this, and they turn it over, get
the interception, lose the game. The worst call in the
history of sports, and unfortunately that's our Super Bowl memory.
So thinking of that, thinking of the last five years,
how it's gone for him, he may have played himself
out the Hall of Fame if he was just mediocre
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he like Eli was the last five years. I don't
think Eli should get in, but I can see where
people might because of the Super Bowls. He just was
the least mediocre and just kind of wrote it out
being eh Russell has been bad and that's what hurt
him because it's I'm looking at it one two three, four,
five years of bad and a bad Super Bowl call
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and bad you know pr if you will over the
last handful of years, says for Sierra, I just see
how he could play them out.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And again there are teetering guys.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Matthew Stafford's teetering another super Bowl great bad two seasons
or two. He may never get in. There's guys I
think who can play themselves in. Because Peyton, Tom Brady,
Joe Montana, those guys can go to other teams and
it can be not the great answer. They were shoeings
like way all up in the club. They had VIP
section velvet ropes, bottle of nineteen forty.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
When you win MVPs, it's a different conversation. You got
to remember that like guys who.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Exactly So that's what I'm saying. Those guys are so
far in.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Peyton can have a horrible neck, have a bad season
or two, it doesn't matter. He all up in the club.
He's standing on the club with his feet ruining the couches.
That's how deep in the club he is. It don't
matter how bad he go. And Russell to me, and
it's more of a broader conversation of.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
You can conversation, but you can't.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You can't let your personal bias affect your broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
That's Richard Sherman.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I can't fudge the numbers thirty three and fifteen without yo,
but right it it's still really good.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Mind you a handful of pro bowls too.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
And that's what I'm talking about. You can't keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Come on, man, like like be fair or just say
you know what, I'm gonna take myself out of this
conversation because that's real because I hate this guy. That's
actually real and I can't be real with it, and
I can't be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And again, this is my argument about having people on
the set who can check some of these guys and
fact check them and make hold them to a standard
that you just can't say anything and make it his
gospel seriously, and that that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Mind yeah, Richard, Richard Richard to be a teammate is
giving Scottie Pippen and Isaiah Thomas it's you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, like it's whatever went on?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
He really don't like buddy, like for real, I mean,
because here you could have went on and say, yeah,
he's just been playing bad last half of a year.
But the actor's recommented that they hate yeah, and my
last point here too real quick to go back at
Richard Sherman real quick. I don't like when people try
to call and single somebody out.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh well, he had the lead in the Boom Dark.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Most teams who won or were successful for a great
four five six years had a bunch of something. Those
Dallas Cowboys teams in the nineties offense was crazy, defense
has Hall of famers all around.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They were crazy. Go look at those late.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Eighties, early nineties San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
You look at those seventies Steelers, Like, dude, there's a
reason why teams were good for you know, four or five, six,
seven years. They had a bunch of good players. So
the idea that he played with a really good defense, like,
I don't like that, because Magic Johnson teams were loaded.
Birds teams were loaded. You know, Shaq, Kobe had a
few plats, some guyzan Tea, the Heatles had got like
Curry had kd and Clay's teams who went for a
(23:52):
while got a.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Bunch of dudes.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
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Speaker 1 (24:06):
Shador Sanders sounded a lot like I don't know Lebron
James talking about Bronni at one point on that famous
tweet that he eventually took down, it's.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
Low Keith, hilarious. How bad these guys are? Bronni better
than half the league exactly.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Remember that we got it for.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
A second round pick robin, better than half the league.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I want you to know that.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And then it was just weird to me because we
hadn't heard anything about Shador.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I mean, you know, it's been kind of quiet. I
mean I heard more about ZAPPI Bailey Zapp. Last we
heard about Shador.
Speaker 12 (24:39):
He was splitting reps with Bailey Zappy as the Brown
Scout team quarterback exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But I guess he couldn't help himself because they came
over to his locker and said, hey, what.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Do you think about the quarterback play? Robbed you what
he saying?
Speaker 12 (24:51):
Yeah, ESPN Cleveland is doing God's work here because nobody
is talking to Shader Sanders these days, right, there's no
reason to talk talk to him, but they make a
point as often as possible to get little exclusive interviews
one on one with him and get him to say stuff.
And uh, yesterday before saying that he's quote not comfortable
(25:12):
being a scout team player, he dropped this bombshell about
where he feels he ranks in the pecking order of
NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He had a great over.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
He says, you don't learn anything I've never said on
the bench and said I learned a lot today. You
agree with him on man, what.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Are you talking? He said that.
Speaker 13 (25:31):
Respecting, So you know that's not that's not nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know my place to answer? You know that's nothing.
Speaker 13 (25:37):
I can't answer, not answer, but I know for sure
I'm not I know if you if you see the
quarterback player in the league right now, I know, I
know I'm capable of doing better than that.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
My follow up question would have been, who are you
talking about? Your door?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Who are you better than? Who's playing terrible? And can
you tell me those guys? Tell me who you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I feel you that I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Serious, like like you just can't throw that out there
where The follow up questions, I teach journalism at USC guys,
be better, come on, man, A guy says that he
the quarterback plays.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Who are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Your door? Because your third string? You're behind Bailly ZAPPI,
who are you better than? Can you give me a
list so I can look at their stats and figure
out why you should be playing?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Come on, man? And I wonder was that a shot
at cam Ward?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
And not maybe personally in the sense, but more because
you know they're they're they're like, have a great relationship,
they're also very competitive with each other. And I'm on
to your point because he left it so open and
they didn't follow up.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is it a shot his own teammates?
Speaker 13 (26:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Is Joe flo Are you're.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Talking about Joe Flacco? Who are you talking about? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Shador who right now in the National Football League is
the starting quarterback you would be better than?
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Right now? Can you please tell us because.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
We have to know absolutely you know what I got
from this rock. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I say it all the time, Kelty, just because.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
You can, meaning yes, you you know. I believe he's confident.
I believe in his you know, his confidence. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I like that gets it from his dad.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
All that I'm with it but that doesn't mean you
have to be able to be baited and you want
there's a difference between being confident self assured, but you
don't have to be baited every single question. You don't
have to have something, well, I know what I do,
I better, especially when you're fighting for your proverbial football life.
And it's okay to be sh door. Okay, it's all right,
(27:44):
nothing wrong with.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
You being s sh like that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
You can keep it down sometimes on.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
A T shirt, but there's too many s's. It would
cost a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Well that mean actually might be dope like you start
the middle of it, goes all the way and around
the back, and then you're our ends at the other one.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
That Joe.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So that's what I want him to be right now,
sh Door, Still be confident, Still be where you are.
I'm not saying change your personality, but you don't have
to fall for the bait of every single question. I
gotta at a certain point if I gotta keep telling
you how good I am. If I gotta keep telling
you that, And it's not the Muhammad aliway, because he
was able to do it in the ring right, he
(28:21):
was actually able to do it, and we saw it, should.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Do it right now.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
You're not able to do it in a place that
we can see it. You're in a practice squad. We're
talking about practice, not a game.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Not a game. We're talking about practice.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So until you get you know, you're the backup until
your start to you're playing until we can see you
right now, it's okay to lock in focus, focus on that.
Don't worry about I can't learn nothing. Backing up and
do what you're supposed to do, and it's okay to
be sh I would do it. I would say to him,
you don't have to prove to me how great you
are bi verbally, you don't have to prove me with
(28:54):
a witty saying, you don't have to prove to be
by a flamboyant saying I'm with you. I know you're
confident and self assured. Find your ways to go out
there and play and compete, because what may happen Joe
Flatco doesn't look great and at a certain point they
may say, Joe, thank you, we know who you are, serviceable, God,
we appreciate. But going to the back of the bus
right now, and Dylan Gabriel, you're up next, which might
(29:17):
bump you up the second and right now, you don't
need any hiccups, be it on the field, off the field,
or anything like that to put you back because maybe
you do play better than them, but you know.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
What they got and you don't.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Right now a chance and they got a chance to
go out there and prove it. So right now, lock
in focus and stop falling for the bait all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You don't have to always tell me.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And I love itself assured in his confidence, but it
doesn't have to be every time, because just because you
can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I would just say that's funny. Aaron Rodgers said, for
three years in Green Bay, he going to the Hall
of Fame, didn't he did?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
He not sit for three years?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Tom Brady sat behind Drew bloodsoell, he did start right away.
I mean, I'm just this whole notion or idea that
you can't learn anything or you got to play right
away or whatever. Yeah, they do play. Anthony Richardson, they
put them out there. He wasn't ready, right was he ready?
(30:16):
Where is he now?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah? It's all bad right now for Anthony richards I
don't know how much long are he gonna be in
the league.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Right, That's what I'm trying to say. I just think
it's just because somebody. I'm in the information business. I
get it. It'd be great, be great when guys give
you stuff for us the media.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Great.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But there also comes a point when you're smart and
you don't have.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
To answer everything.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You're the back, third string quarterback, you don't have to
answer that question. You don't need to talk about all
the worry about yourself. I'm here, man, we're one and two.
We just came off a big win. My goodness, great,
am I right?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Right right?
Speaker 6 (31:03):
We're hoping to get the five hundred man man.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Our defense play hard. Man, What a great defense we have.
Forget about the quarterback. And when you have defense like that,
the quarterbacks doesn't even have to do that much except
for not turn the ball over in a big spot.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Oh wow, he's watching the game.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
He's talking about the defense, talking about who can play
and who can't play.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
And what you see. I just I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I just I think it's it's ill advised. And if you,
if you're management or the coach, here we go. You
know what I mean, you're not even back up.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
And what you don't want to do again, is you
don't want to feed into the narrative. And again I'm
not saying all to your life who you are, but
I'm saying every new level, there's a new devil. What
I mean is it can be the devil in the details. Like,
what do I have to do now that I'm at
this different level? Right, I'm at this different place, Rob Parker,
(31:57):
the ethics to the grind is there. But now you're
a different you know, you're in a different newspaper. Okay,
what do I need to do here? What's my new role?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I was a reporter, be right, Okay, Now I'm a
column Okay, you adjust Kelvin Washington. Okay, you're a you're
at the four letter place. Okay, now you're a Fox. Okay,
now you're doing news? Okay, how do I do news?
But I said you can adjust? And accordingly, it's not
that you change who you are. You just tweak, you find,
you find too, find you know, and refine your skill set.
And to me, I feel like he's going over and beyond.
(32:25):
And Rob, you know this, We all know that person
whose goals over and beyond to prove to you, I
ain't gonna never change.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm gonna be me no matter what, and like they
go out.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Of their way to prove it. And it's no, no, no,
no no, don't change who you are. But it's okay
to adjust to your new surroundings. It's not changing who
you are. Right, I'm still me. But if I'm in
the middle of, you know, some rough parts of the neighborhood,
and I pull up in a nice car and I
got on some nice jewely and I'm iced out and
it's two am and I gotta get gas, I'm still me.
(32:54):
But the wise men is gonna tuck all that, get
that jewelry, and I'm gonna, you know, have my head
on a swivel.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Right, No, I ain't gonna do nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm me.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I'm gonna just stand out here on this corner. And
you know I can wear my jewelry. I can be out.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Here, okay, all right, And so that's my thing.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
We should do it. I don't. You don't have to
go out of the where your crew. I'm still me.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I never do. We know, we know your lineage, we
know who you come from.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
But it's okay to assess where you are, assess the
situation and adjust accordingly.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
It's just unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You're you're you're doing stuff for no reason where you're
not gonna get any It's not gonna what you talking
about other quarterbacks is that gonna put him on the field?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Just what is the win?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Tell me what the win is? From that?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All it does is open up dollars. He's disgruntled, he's
still not accepting his role. He's on the team, but
he don't really want to be on the team. He
doesn't want to do this I want to do That's
what people will get from that. That's what people will
start talking about. That's not where you want to be
if you should do Sanders. No, it's not any other
third string quarterback we heard from over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And that's why it's okay to be a little humble pie,
right And while you're confidence saying shit, as soon as
I give my chance, they don't even know, like you
can have that on the inside. You can be motivated.
Nobody's questioning that, but you got assess the situation and
where you are that. You know, Bronnie James because he's
on a two way country being like, hey, I don't know,
(34:24):
I know his dad did.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
But that's Lebron and Lebron's passive gress for social media.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
But Bronni has by all accounts, seem to have his
head in the right place. You know, I just got
to come in play defense, earn my way on a minute,
get my minute, you know what I mean. But he
ain't like man, all these dudes bombs. I need to
be out there like like Lebron. When he put that
tweet out right, I'm saying Lebron a passive gress. Heb
he does that. Bronni has seen to be very level headed.
Anytime they ask him anything, He's fully aware of where
(34:50):
he is.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And that's the that's the way you need to be.
And shouldure Uh let his guard down on this one,
You just didn't. It wasn't necessary.
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Sewn King, former NFL quarterback Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst
Real Sean King on x Yes, right, we're now with
the King.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh, what's up, Sewn?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
What's up? What's up?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I almost didn't want you back on the show unless
you could admit Matthew Staffords not the best quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
But we won't even go there. I'll just leave you alone.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, hey, Sean, I had to hear about that for
an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
He was still I'm trying to warm up my food,
he started telling me at the microwave.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Well, I mean, outside of Rob putting the voodoo curse
on the field goal block units of about ten teams
all at once. The Rails went to Philly and out
play they win to.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Lose Sports has the short Vnue Okay, thank you? All right, right,
well we're gonna go move off of that. Let's go here.
Who needs up to win more? Is it Baltimore or
is it the Chiefs who needs to win this game?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Baltimore? I mean the Chiefs of excuses. I mean that
without Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice for most of this
Baltimore for the most part, is healthy. I mean who
they miss in Isaiah likely?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Well what about?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
What?
Speaker 6 (01:44):
What about the division?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Like, seriously, I get what you're saying, Baltimore, but the division,
the where Baltimore is in the AFC North, they have
a chance to win that division.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Who's in their way? Cleveland's bad?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Uh, the Bengals don't have their quarterback and the Steelers
have a forty year old quarterback in the division.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Could they still not win that division?
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Well, I think they got more room for Era, especially
considering how the Chargers are playing and right even different,
I mean, Denver's lost a couple of games late, So
I think the Chiefs have less marsin for Era than
the Ravens to especially considering Joe Burrow is probably gonna
be out for the rest of the year and Jake
Browning definitely didn't do a lot to build any confidence
(02:28):
in the game versus the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Let me let me squeeze in this real quick. Uh,
what about Russell Wilson? If you're if would you go
and make a call to get Russell Wilson If you're
the Bengals and say, dude, we got a team, we
got players, we can't give up on the season, would.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
You do that?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
No, Russell's the third best quarterback on the Giants. Like,
if you're don't go get one of the Giants Kipps,
I'd get Jamis.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
And crab Legs to be named later right now.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah, I'm just saying, like we're being honest.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
No, I'm asking you.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
A season actsosition like Russ in twenty twenty five. I
know he blitzkrieg the Cowboys, but I anticipate a lot
of quarterbacks are gonna do that. I don't think Russ
is an elite thrower of the football Jamis is, I mean,
if not.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, when Jamis throws a ton of interceptions, that's why
he can't be a starting quarterback.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
He'll throw you four, but he throws four interceptions.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Come on, if you put Jamis on that team with
Jamar Chase and t Higgins and Jessekee and Chase, I disagree.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He's a turnover machine. That's why he's not a starter.
He has so much talent. He gives up the ball
too much.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
He just does.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
He does.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
You go back, if you go back, if you go back,
and the results matter, but if you go back. Jamis
is also one of the most unlucky quarterbacks is that
we've ever seen, Like Brock Purdy has more balls deflected
to hit the grass than anybody I've ever seen. If
Jamis throws the ball and it's not perfect, it gets picked.
I mean, if it bounces off something like all of
(03:58):
them falling the hands of the defense. There's some times
I think that will regress and this will be a
chance for him. People had written off Sam Donald, look
at him. People had written off Daniel Jones, look at him.
I know it's early for both of those quarterbacks, but
maybe Jamis is in that same I don't know, Sean.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I feel like I feel like Jamis loves his role
as a backup, eating w's with people having another you
can't eat another man, wan man.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
All I'm saying is I was a GM of the Bengals,
and I was going to call the Giants it would
be for Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Now I get it. I think I think the ceiling
is still higher.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I get what you mean by that, even though he
turns out he's more explosive at this point. Let me
go here with me, all, ain't nobody denying that? Let
me ask you what just brought up Sam Donald? I
want to go to that game, but I don't want
to talk about Sam Donal. I want to talk about
who is Kyler Murray? You you know, the position you coached,
the position you played, the position. Who is Kyler Murray?
After all this, I feel like he gets more of
(04:52):
a past. And so many other young quarterbacks give or
take a year above his age, maybe a year older,
who we would be criticized in our expecting more from
or we say the talent's there book, why aren't the
w stacking up? Kyler Murray kind of just gets to
skate with nobody looking. Well.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It's interesting because and shout out to the big Wells
who always treated me great when I was there the
Cardinals are irrelevant, like the coverage of that particular brand
is non existent. So that's why Kyler gets a pass.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
I'm not stand I think the lesson to be learned
is because we have a quarterback that's at a point
in his career where his contract is up. If I
don't think said quarterback, whether that be Kyler, Murray or Tua,
if I don't think, I know, win a championship with
that quarterback, I'd rather not have one then give that
(05:44):
quarterback a multi year deal at a price point where
we can't.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Move on from him. And I think the Cardinals and
the Dolphins are in the same spot. They gave those
extensions at the going rate and they now know. I
think it inside of both organizations that we can't win
a championship with this god they're stuck.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah. Uh, it's you're damned if you do, damned if
you don't. If you don't sign the guy, then you
wind up paying later, like the Cowboys wind up with
Dak paying him sixty million dollars, you know, because they
didn't they they didn't sign him earlier because showing the
longer you go, the more it's gonna cost you. It
doesn't matter whether you're good or not, like the asking
(06:23):
price or what they decide they're gonna pay you. I mean,
that's that's the problem with their paying the position rather
than the player.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I agree with that totally. I'm just saying, if I'm
an organization, I'd rather go a year or two trying
to find a guy then to be stuck for four
or five. That's all I was saying.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I agree. I just think that's where they are. I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Sometimes I would rather walk away uh than pay some
of those guys.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Let's let's talk about Sam Donald uh and and the Seahawks, and.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I'm not Sam.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Sam Donald lost it for me when he had the
two bad games at the end of the year, and
I was totally in lockstep with Minnesota moving on from him.
Where are you on Sam Donald and his long range?
Not just playing well for some games, but can you
win with him?
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Is he the guy?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I think he's a good regular season quarterback. He's got
to prove that he can handle the pressure of the playoffs. See,
I agree with you. I think it was a game,
a division game that the last game of the year.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
The Lions.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Remember that and they were in the red zone four
times and he couldn't remember, they couldn't score.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
He was awful. So he's got to play his way
out of that. But for Seattle, if they were going
to get off of Gino Smith, he was the best
available option for what they want to do in so far,
so good.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Let me go here real quick, Sean the Eagles Buccaneers.
That should be a good game. You got the Buccaneers
who are playing some good football. Baker comes back the
Eagles obviously, as we know, rating champs. But I want
to start with the Eagles and AJ Brown saying, give
me more targets. We could be more explosive. We got
some dogs on this team. On the other side, people say,
(08:06):
hey man, you're winning. Mind your businesses, keep playing football,
keep winning. Where do you come out on this with
Are you more aligned with Aj Brown, like find his
way to make this more explosive or a win is
a win is a win.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I think if you're going to allocate resources at the
position like they have with the contract they gave Aj,
in the contract they gave Devontae Smith, why then not
use them. I think what Aj showed in the Rams game,
he doesn't have to be open to be great. I mean,
he wasn't open on a lot of those catches, but
he's a very good contested catch guy. He gets extremely frustrated.
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That's why he started reading books on the sideline. As
accomplished as Jalen Hurts has been, he goes to these
stretches where he just does not attempt to push the
ball to its outside receivers. It's worked for Philly so far.
I think Philly could be even better on.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
The play really well in the second half though. I mean, yeah, touchdowns,
I mean I don't. I just don't when you're winning.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I'm not no, no, not you, not you. I'm just
saying like that. That seems so selfish to me.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It'd be one thing if you're lost and you couldn't
move the ball in the second half, you know what
I mean, and you didn't use your weapons. But when
you're winning and that, guys, what is he's seventeen or
eighteen and zero in his last eighteen games.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Look at it from this standpoint, we're happy with the
success we've had, but as we get more experience and
more time under our built we should also be evolving
in a positive way. We should be getting better, right,
we should be getting more consistent utilizing all of our
weapons week in and week out. So it's not a criticism,
it's just something. If I'm Sirianni, I challenged the offense
(09:43):
to continue to get better. They're more dynamic when they
throw the ball outside because it opens up more space
for Saquon and Jalen to run the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, they got to figure out where to get Saquon going.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I mean, right now is over, it's all done.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, he didn't look at anything. It's not that he's
not town this in all right, Well, sup.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I wouldn't say teams are teams are loading the box.
They're saying we're gonna take sa Quan away and force
Hurts to beat us.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
So and that's how that works.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
And yeah, that that didn't work out in the Super Bowl,
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Hey, Jalen is the defending Super Bowl champion and Super
Bowl MVP. I will say this though, before I go
shout out to all the bad quarterbacks that Shadua talked about.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, including including Chador because he can't even get off
the bench and they have the worst radio quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Hey, you know we're getting on that a little bit
later in the show, so you can bet on that
you I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
All right, good day.
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Speaker 1 (11:52):
Almost blew a gasket last night. This is what I
talked about all the time, Calvin this. I'm not against
athletes being on Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
People say, oh, you just yelling goodnit podcast.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
The problem I have is that they have skin in
the game, and more than us Kelvin who haven't played.
It's personal. It's always personal when they're ripping on each other.
Right when Jady McCoy called Dak Prescott ass on national television,
(12:35):
or or like somebody's Cam Newton when his hat's not
too tight and he's telling because he didn't win a
Super Bowl or because he didn't have this or that,
it just sounds personal. And last night, the personal attacks
against Russell Wilson, which just crazy to me.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
And we do have the sound. So let's hear that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
First Tony Gonzales for and then Richard Sherman paint talking
about Russell No, not talking about Russell Wilson, trashing him.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Do you think we've seen the last of Russell Wilson?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Honestly, I hope we have.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
And I say that because just looking at him and
his career, his legacy, like he talked about, if ever
there was somebody who played himself out of a Hall
of Fame, it's Russell Wilson, really, And I say that
because look at what he's what's happened ever since he
left Seattle.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
When he was in Seattle, he was the man. He
was making these good plays. He won a Super went
to two of them.
Speaker 10 (13:31):
But as soon as he left there, he went to
Denver sign that big old deal.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
They paid him thirty nine million dollars to leave.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
He goes to Pittsburgh, plays there one year, he's out
of there, and now he goes here and has three games.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I just don't know if it's gonna get any better.
Speaker 10 (13:42):
And I don't want to see him on a sideline
holding a clipboard.
Speaker 11 (13:45):
I think you got to judge his career off when
the legion the Boom was there, he had a legendary
defense and all time defense, and how much success he had,
and then without that legendary defense, the success he had,
without that legendary defense, he's been four and eleven, seven
and eight owing three to start with the Giants like
that's he was a winning football player in Seattle, and
people said, hey, winning his football player, all this good stuff,
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all these accolades, and now you get to go on
your own and you get to crew pay. I'm this
great quarterback, I'm this guy that's going to be dominant,
and it just hasn't worked out that way.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Before we get to our takes, Kelvin, uh huh, Rob
G will give you this the facts that were, of
course not addressed when they were talking about his stats
and when the Legion of Boom gone and and he
couldn't play and he was terrible and all that. Okay,
Rob G, let's get some facts. Everybody's sitting around that
(14:37):
desk cashing those checks. But nobody will push back, nobody
will challenge any of the stuff that's being tossed around
as fat and none of it is fact.
Speaker 12 (14:48):
Yeah, So sher made a point, said, hey, he was
only great with the Legion of Boom, and he pointed
out the last three and a half years where the
record has been dismal. Right, we'll be great, honest with you.
It was bad what he neglected to mention where there's
a whole middle ground in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Between I thought that immediately between after the Legion of
Boom had disintegrated and before he left to go to Day.
Speaker 12 (15:08):
Yes, during that time, Russell Wilson with the Seahawks ten
and six, eleven and five, twelve and four, and they
anted badly six and eight.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Calvin right there in those three seasons there.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
But but Richard Sherman is telling you as fact that
he was garbage once the Legion of Boom was done.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's not true.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Rich Just say it, Richard, I can't stand Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
And I'm gonna sit.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Here and give you a bold faced lie on national
streaming television.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
And there are no facts to it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
And I'll just say it as gospel and people at
Homo watching and they'll think these are all true. Why
why couldn't somebody stand up and say, Richard, your numbers
are fogazy, They're fraudulent, They're terrible.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
They don't add up.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What about that twelve fourth season, what about that eleven
win season without the legion of boom. That's why we
need journalists on the set with these gone crazy former
athletes who are jaded and jealous and give you misinformation
and all they care about is their personal vandettas against
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other athletes. Is pathetic, it's sickening, it's hard to stomach
and watch.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, you're on your campaign trail right there, brother, yom Hey,
I'm a vote at the prom Sterling.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Junior, Rob Sterling Jr.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
This is where you're not wrong thirty three and fifteen
without the legion of boom. So, Richard, if you want
to have the conversation, we can have the conversation. Because
I don't think Russell Wilson is a shoe into the
Hall of Fame. Now, I'm totally open to the conversation. However,
he'd ignored basically half for run with y'all, half a
(17:04):
run without y'all, and he was good both runs.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So I Richard Shermon was triming on that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Now I heard Tony Gonzalez sounded more almost like a
love of the care saying, I don't want to picture
you as clipboard guy. I want to think of you
as you know how I thought of you in Seattle
because it's been rough the last handful of seasons. So
I'm with you on Richard Shermon, and it's clearly personal
for him, just say, clearly personal. For Marshawn Lynch, it's
clearly personal. For a handful of other guys from those
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Seattle teams, it's clearly personal.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
For Sean Payton. It might be personal for the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
We know it's personal for the I forgot the offensive
coordinator and a quarterback coach.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I know they had it out last year.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
So there is something about Russell Wilson that's rubbing people
the wrong way everywhere he goes.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Maybe he has a good life that they don't need.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
He's asking people for his own office, he's asking guys
the schedule time to talk to me.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Far have had his own locker room with the Jets. Ever,
nobody ever talks about that. He didn't even dress with
his teammates.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Well, I mean that might not be the guy to
be trying to talk with. You know, he wasn't an
example of being a great city. But you get my point.
But that's what honestly does worry me. Like with Russell Wilson,
so I'm gonna jump off on a different process. I'm
with you on a personal's clear as day. With Richard
Sherman is scream, personal is scream. I don't like the
dude because there was no facts to it. But I
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am open to the conversation of guys who are not
shoeins still having a chance to gain or lose a
spot in the Hall of Fame. Matthew Stafford ain't a shoein.
He can gain if he messed around and win another
Super Bowl this year, next year he might That might
be the cementing point for him to get in. Right,
But you're teetering when you're Russell Wilson, You're right there.
(18:48):
You were at the club, hanging out in the entrance
looking seeing all the ladies in the club, but you
ain't fully in yet, and now the bouchers can come
and bounce you up out of there when you have
a run of four or five bad season.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, but that getting kicked out of teams.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
So I hear that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
But when you make it as if he never played
any good except for when he had a great defense.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
That's where I just have to.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
That's because he became me and Rob g and you
have talked about this before on and off the air.
He might be one of the greatest deep ball passes
in the last twenty twenty five years, like he's had
some success. But here's a couple of things where I
would get concerned if I was Russell Wilson, his agent
and his wife or friend or brother, anybody around his
camp who are like, hey, you're you're You're a Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The concern is how the last five years.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Have gone different teams getting kicked out of those teams
so much so they want to pay you the lead.
That's a that's bad. Then you get to Pittsburgh supposed
to be the savior. It looks good for a handful
of games and it looks awful. Then you go to
Giants when they don't even want to start dark yet
they want you to take the thing.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Jet goes horrible.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Now three games that he's starting, and when you think
of him in the Super Bowl, here's a really bad one.
Because Eli Manning is not a Hall of Fame talent
to me, but I understand because he has the Super
Bowls and he has super Bowl moments. It's the opposite
for Russell Wilson. When you think of him in the
Super Bowl, you think of one of the worst calls
in the sports, in the history of sports, and that
was not giving the ball to beast Bow who had
(20:12):
gotten you all the way down the field, got you to.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
The dag on what two yard line.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
The Patriots want to let you in so they can
have a little bit of time to score, and you say, nah,
we're gonna pass this, and they turn it over, get
the interception, lose the game. The worst call in the
history of sports, and unfortunately that's our Super Bowl memory.
So thinking of that, thinking of the last five years,
how it's gone for him, he may have played himself
out the Hall of Fame if he was just mediocre
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he like Eli was the last five years. I don't
think Eli should get in, but I can see where
people might because of the Super Bowls. He just was
the least mediocre and just kind of wrote it out
being eh Russell has been bad and that's what hurt
him because it's I'm looking at it one two three, four,
five years of bad and a bad Super Bowl call
(20:58):
and bad you know pr if you will over the
last handful of years, says for Sierra, I just see
how he could play them out.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And again there are teetering guys.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Matthew Stafford's teetering another super Bowl great bad two seasons
or two. He may never get in. There's guys I
think who can play themselves in. Because Peyton, Tom Brady,
Joe Montana, those guys can go to other teams and
it can be not the great answer. They were shoeings
like way all up in the club. They had VIP
section velvet ropes, bottle of nineteen forty.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
When you win MVPs, it's a different conversation. You got
to remember that like guys who.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Exactly So that's what I'm saying. Those guys are so
far in.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Peyton can have a horrible neck, have a bad season
or two, it doesn't matter. He all up in the club.
He's standing on the club with his feet ruining the couches.
That's how deep in the club he is. It don't
matter how bad he go. And Russell to me, and
it's more of a broader conversation of.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
You can conversation, but you can't.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You can't let your personal bias affect your broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
That's Richard Sherman.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I can't fudge the numbers thirty three and fifteen without yo,
but right it it's still really good.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Mind you a handful of pro bowls too.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
And that's what I'm talking about. You can't keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Come on, man, like like be fair or just say
you know what, I'm gonna take myself out of this
conversation because that's real because I hate this guy. That's
actually real and I can't be real with it, and
I can't be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And again, this is my argument about having people on
the set who can check some of these guys and
fact check them and make hold them to a standard
that you just can't say anything and make it his
gospel seriously, and that that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Mind yeah, Richard, Richard Richard to be a teammate is
giving Scottie Pippen and Isaiah Thomas it's you know what.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, like it's whatever went on?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
He really don't like buddy, like for real, I mean,
because here you could have went on and say, yeah,
he's just been playing bad last half of a year.
But the actor's recommented that they hate yeah, and my
last point here too real quick to go back at
Richard Sherman real quick. I don't like when people try
to call and single somebody out.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Oh well, he had the lead in the Boom Dark.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Most teams who won or were successful for a great
four five six years had a bunch of something. Those
Dallas Cowboys teams in the nineties offense was crazy, defense
has Hall of famers all around.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They were crazy. Go look at those late.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Eighties, early nineties San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
You look at those seventies Steelers, Like, dude, there's a
reason why teams were good for you know, four or five, six,
seven years. They had a bunch of good players. So
the idea that he played with a really good defense, like,
I don't like that, because Magic Johnson teams were loaded.
Birds teams were loaded. You know, Shaq, Kobe had a
few plats, some guyzan Tea, the Heatles had got like
Curry had kd and Clay's teams who went for a
(23:52):
while got a.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Bunch of dudes.
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Speaker 1 (24:06):
Shador Sanders sounded a lot like I don't know Lebron
James talking about Bronni at one point on that famous
tweet that he eventually took down, it's.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
Low Keith, hilarious. How bad these guys are? Bronni better
than half the league exactly.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Remember that we got it for.
Speaker 12 (24:25):
A second round pick robin, better than half the league.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I want you to know that.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
And then it was just weird to me because we
hadn't heard anything about Shador.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I mean, you know, it's been kind of quiet. I
mean I heard more about ZAPPI Bailey Zapp. Last we
heard about Shador.
Speaker 12 (24:39):
He was splitting reps with Bailey Zappy as the Brown
Scout team quarterback exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But I guess he couldn't help himself because they came
over to his locker and said, hey, what.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Do you think about the quarterback play? Robbed you what
he saying?
Speaker 12 (24:51):
Yeah, ESPN Cleveland is doing God's work here because nobody
is talking to Shader Sanders these days, right, there's no
reason to talk talk to him, but they make a
point as often as possible to get little exclusive interviews
one on one with him and get him to say stuff.
And uh, yesterday before saying that he's quote not comfortable
(25:12):
being a scout team player, he dropped this bombshell about
where he feels he ranks in the pecking order of
NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He had a great over.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
He says, you don't learn anything I've never said on
the bench and said I learned a lot today. You
agree with him on man, what.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Are you talking? He said that.
Speaker 13 (25:31):
Respecting, So you know that's not that's not nothing.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know my place to answer? You know that's nothing.
Speaker 13 (25:37):
I can't answer, not answer, but I know for sure
I'm not I know if you if you see the
quarterback player in the league right now, I know, I
know I'm capable of doing better than that.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
My follow up question would have been, who are you
talking about? Your door?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Who are you better than? Who's playing terrible? And can
you tell me those guys? Tell me who you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
I feel you that I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Serious, like like you just can't throw that out there
where The follow up questions, I teach journalism at USC guys,
be better, come on, man, A guy says that he
the quarterback plays.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Who are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Your door? Because your third string? You're behind Bailly ZAPPI,
who are you better than? Can you give me a
list so I can look at their stats and figure
out why you should be playing?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Come on, man? And I wonder was that a shot
at cam Ward?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
And not maybe personally in the sense, but more because
you know they're they're they're like, have a great relationship,
they're also very competitive with each other. And I'm on
to your point because he left it so open and
they didn't follow up.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Is it a shot his own teammates?
Speaker 13 (26:45):
Right?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
You know?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Is Joe flo Are you're.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Talking about Joe Flacco? Who are you talking about? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Shador who right now in the National Football League is
the starting quarterback you would be better than?
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Right now? Can you please tell us because.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
We have to know absolutely you know what I got
from this rock. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I say it all the time, Kelty, just because.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
You can, meaning yes, you you know. I believe he's confident.
I believe in his you know, his confidence. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I like that gets it from his dad.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
All that I'm with it but that doesn't mean you
have to be able to be baited and you want
there's a difference between being confident self assured, but you
don't have to be baited every single question. You don't
have to have something, well, I know what I do,
I better, especially when you're fighting for your proverbial football life.
And it's okay to be sh door. Okay, it's all right,
(27:44):
nothing wrong with.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
You being s sh like that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
You can keep it down sometimes on.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
A T shirt, but there's too many s's. It would
cost a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Well that mean actually might be dope like you start
the middle of it, goes all the way and around
the back, and then you're our ends at the other one.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
That Joe.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So that's what I want him to be right now,
sh Door, Still be confident, Still be where you are.
I'm not saying change your personality, but you don't have
to fall for the bait of every single question. I
gotta at a certain point if I gotta keep telling
you how good I am. If I gotta keep telling
you that, And it's not the Muhammad aliway, because he
was able to do it in the ring right, he
(28:21):
was actually able to do it, and we saw it, should.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Do it right now.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
You're not able to do it in a place that
we can see it. You're in a practice squad. We're
talking about practice, not a game.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Not a game. We're talking about practice.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
So until you get you know, you're the backup until
your start to you're playing until we can see you
right now, it's okay to lock in focus, focus on that.
Don't worry about I can't learn nothing. Backing up and
do what you're supposed to do, and it's okay to
be sh I would do it. I would say to him,
you don't have to prove to me how great you
are bi verbally, you don't have to prove me with
(28:54):
a witty saying, you don't have to prove to be
by a flamboyant saying I'm with you. I know you're
confident and self assured. Find your ways to go out
there and play and compete, because what may happen Joe
Flatco doesn't look great and at a certain point they
may say, Joe, thank you, we know who you are, serviceable, God,
we appreciate. But going to the back of the bus
right now, and Dylan Gabriel, you're up next, which might
(29:17):
bump you up the second and right now, you don't
need any hiccups, be it on the field, off the field,
or anything like that to put you back because maybe
you do play better than them, but you know.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
What they got and you don't.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Right now a chance and they got a chance to
go out there and prove it. So right now, lock
in focus and stop falling for the bait all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You don't have to always tell me.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And I love itself assured in his confidence, but it
doesn't have to be every time, because just because you
can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I would just say that's funny. Aaron Rodgers said, for
three years in Green Bay, he going to the Hall
of Fame, didn't he did?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
He not sit for three years?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Tom Brady sat behind Drew bloodsoell, he did start right away.
I mean, I'm just this whole notion or idea that
you can't learn anything or you got to play right
away or whatever. Yeah, they do play. Anthony Richardson, they
put them out there. He wasn't ready, right was he ready?
(30:16):
Where is he now?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Yeah? It's all bad right now for Anthony richards I
don't know how much long are he gonna be in
the league.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Right, That's what I'm trying to say. I just think
it's just because somebody. I'm in the information business. I
get it. It'd be great, be great when guys give
you stuff for us the media.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Great.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
But there also comes a point when you're smart and
you don't have.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
To answer everything.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You're the back, third string quarterback, you don't have to
answer that question. You don't need to talk about all
the worry about yourself. I'm here, man, we're one and two.
We just came off a big win. My goodness, great,
am I right?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Right right?
Speaker 6 (31:03):
We're hoping to get the five hundred man man.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Our defense play hard. Man, What a great defense we have.
Forget about the quarterback. And when you have defense like that,
the quarterbacks doesn't even have to do that much except
for not turn the ball over in a big spot.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Oh wow, he's watching the game.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
He's talking about the defense, talking about who can play
and who can't play.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
And what you see. I just I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I just I think it's it's ill advised. And if you,
if you're management or the coach, here we go. You
know what I mean, you're not even back up.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
And what you don't want to do again, is you
don't want to feed into the narrative. And again I'm
not saying all to your life who you are, but
I'm saying every new level, there's a new devil. What
I mean is it can be the devil in the details. Like,
what do I have to do now that I'm at
this different level? Right, I'm at this different place, Rob Parker,
(31:57):
the ethics to the grind is there. But now you're
a different you know, you're in a different newspaper. Okay,
what do I need to do here? What's my new role?
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I was a reporter, be right, Okay, Now I'm a
column Okay, you adjust Kelvin Washington. Okay, you're a you're
at the four letter place. Okay, now you're a Fox. Okay,
now you're doing news? Okay, how do I do news?
But I said you can adjust? And accordingly, it's not
that you change who you are. You just tweak, you find,
you find too, find you know, and refine your skill set.
And to me, I feel like he's going over and beyond.
(32:25):
And Rob, you know this, We all know that person
whose goals over and beyond to prove to you, I
ain't gonna never change.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm gonna be me no matter what, and like they
go out.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Of their way to prove it. And it's no, no, no,
no no, don't change who you are. But it's okay
to adjust to your new surroundings. It's not changing who
you are. Right, I'm still me. But if I'm in
the middle of, you know, some rough parts of the neighborhood,
and I pull up in a nice car and I
got on some nice jewely and I'm iced out and
it's two am and I gotta get gas, I'm still me.
(32:54):
But the wise men is gonna tuck all that, get
that jewelry, and I'm gonna, you know, have my head
on a swivel.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Right, No, I ain't gonna do nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm me.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
I'm gonna just stand out here on this corner. And
you know I can wear my jewelry. I can be out.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Here, okay, all right, And so that's my thing.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
We should do it. I don't. You don't have to
go out of the where your crew. I'm still me.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I never do. We know, we know your lineage, we
know who you come from.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
But it's okay to assess where you are, assess the
situation and adjust accordingly.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
It's just unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
You're you're you're doing stuff for no reason where you're
not gonna get any It's not gonna what you talking
about other quarterbacks is that gonna put him on the field?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Just what is the win?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Tell me what the win is? From that?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
All it does is open up dollars. He's disgruntled, he's
still not accepting his role. He's on the team, but
he don't really want to be on the team. He
doesn't want to do this I want to do That's
what people will get from that. That's what people will
start talking about. That's not where you want to be
if you should do Sanders. No, it's not any other
third string quarterback we heard from over the last few years.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And that's why it's okay to be a little humble pie,
right And while you're confidence saying shit, as soon as
I give my chance, they don't even know, like you
can have that on the inside. You can be motivated.
Nobody's questioning that, but you got assess the situation and
where you are that. You know, Bronnie James because he's
on a two way country being like, hey, I don't know,
(34:24):
I know his dad did.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
But that's Lebron and Lebron's passive gress for social media.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
But Bronni has by all accounts, seem to have his
head in the right place. You know, I just got
to come in play defense, earn my way on a minute,
get my minute, you know what I mean. But he
ain't like man, all these dudes bombs. I need to
be out there like like Lebron. When he put that
tweet out right, I'm saying Lebron a passive gress. Heb
he does that. Bronni has seen to be very level headed.
Anytime they ask him anything, He's fully aware of where
(34:50):
he is.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And that's the that's the way you need to be.
And shouldure Uh let his guard down on this one,
You just didn't. It wasn't necessary.
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