September 26, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman’s criticisms of Russell Wilson feel oddly personal, and explain why they have such a big problem with the NFL’s new kickoff rules. Plus, Super Bowl champion and WJZ-TV Baltimore host Qadry Ismail swings by to preview this Sunday’s showdown between the Baltimore Ravens and the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Speaker 1 (02:45):
Almost blew a gasket last night. This is what I
talked about all the time, Kelvin.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
This.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm not against athletes being on Okay, I'm not. People say, oh,
you just yelling goodnit podcast your yellen.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The problem I have is that they have skin in
the game, and more than us Kelvin, who haven't played.
It's personal. It's always personal when they're ripping on each other.
Right when Chady McCoy called Dak Prescott ass on national television,
(03:28):
or like somebody's Cam Newton when his hat's not too
tight and he's telling because he didn't win a Super Bowl,
or because he didn't have this or that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It just sounds personal.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And last night the personal attacks against Russell Wilson, which
just crazy to me. And we do have the sound.
So let's hear that first, Tony Gonzales first, and then
Richard Sherman Payne talking about Russell No, not talking about
Russell Wilson, trashing him.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Do you think we've seen the last of Russell Wilson?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Honest, I hope we have.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
And I say that because just looking at him and
his career, his legacy, like he talked about, if ever
there was somebody who played himself out of a Hall
of fame, it's Russell Wilson. And I say that because
look at what he's what's happened ever since he left Seattle.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
When he was in Seattle, he was the man. He
was making these good plays. He won a Super went
to two of them.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
But as soon as he left there, he went the
Denver sign that big old deal.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They paid him thirty nine million dollars to leave.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
He goes to Pittsburgh, plays there one year, he's out
of there. Now he goes here and has three games.
I just don't know if it's gonna get any better.
And I don't want to see him on a sideline
holding a clipboard.
Speaker 9 (04:38):
I think you got to judge his career off. When
the legion the Boom was there, he had a legendary
defense and all time defense, and how much success he had,
and then without that legendary defense, the success he had
without that legendary defense, he's been four and eleven, seven
and eight all in three to start with the Giants
Like that's he was a winning football player in Seattle,
and people said, hey, winning his football player, all this
(04:59):
good stuff, all theseccolades, and now you get to go
on your own and you get to prove, hey, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
This great quarterback.
Speaker 9 (05:04):
I'm this guy that's gonna be dominant, and it just
hasn't worked out that way.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Before we before we get to all takes Kelvin uh huh,
Rob G will give you this, the facts that were
of course not addressed when they were talking about his
stats and when the legion of Boom gone and and
he couldn't play and he was terrible and all that. Okay,
Rob G, let's get some facts. Everybody's sitting around that
(05:30):
desk cashing those checks. But nobody will push back, nobody
will challenge any of the stuff that's being tossed around
as fat and none of it is fat.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
So sher made a points that, hey, he was only
great with the Legion of Boom, and he pointed out
the last three and a half years where the record
has been dismal. Right, it'll be great, honest with you.
It was bad what he neglected to mention where there's
a whole middle ground in Seattle.
Speaker 10 (05:54):
Between I thought that immediately between after the Legion of
Boom had disintegrated and before he left the Yes, during
that time, Russell Wilson with the Seahawks ten and six,
eleven and five, twelve and four and then Anty badly
six and eight.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Calvin right there in those three seasons there. But but
Richard Sherman.
Speaker 11 (06:13):
Is telling you as fact that he was garbage once
the Legion of Boom was done.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's not true, Richard.
Speaker 11 (06:21):
She just say it, Richard, I can't stand Russell Wilson.
And I'm gonna sit here and give you a bold
face live on national streaming television, and there are no
facts to it, and I'll just say it as gospel,
and people at Homer watching and they'll think these are
all true. Why why couldn't somebody stand up and say, Richard,
(06:44):
your numbers are fugazy, they're fraudulent, they're terrible, they don't
add up. What about that twelve and fourth season, what
about that eleven win season without the legion of boom.
That's why we need journalists on this said, with these
gone crazy former athletes who are jaded and jealous and
(07:07):
give you misinformation and all they care about is their
personal vandettas against other athletes is pathetic.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's sickening, it's hard to stomach and watch.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, you're on your campaign trail right there. Brother. Hey,
I'm most voted.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
At the part.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Rob Sterling Junior, Rob Sterling Jr.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
This is where you're not wrong thirty three and fifteen
without the legion of boom. So, Richard, if you want
to have the conversation, we can have the conversation. Because
I don't think Russell Wilson is a shoe into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now, I'm totally open to the conversation.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
However, he'd ignored basically half a run with y'all, half
a run without y'all, and he was good both runs.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So I Richard Shermon was trivin.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
On that now I heard Tony Gonzalez sounded more almost
like a love of the care saying, I don't want
to picture you as clipboard guy. I want to think
of you as you know how I thought of you
in Seattle. Because it's been rough the last handful of seasons.
So I'm with you on Richard Shermon, and it's clearly
personal for him, just say it clearly personal. For Marshawn Lynch,
it's clearly personal. For a handful of other guys from
(08:24):
those Seattle teams. It's clearly personal. For Sean Payton. It
might be personal for the Steelers. We know it's personal
for the I forgot the offensive coordinator and the quarterback coach.
I know they had it out last year. So there
is something about Russell Wilson that's rubbing people the wrong
way everywhere he goes. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Maybe he has a good life that they don't.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
He's asking people for his own office, he's asking guys
the schedule time to talk to me.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Far have had his own locker room with the Jets.
Nobody ever, nobody ever talks about that. He didn't even
dress with his teammates.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Well, I mean that I'd be the guy to be
trying to talk to. You know, he wasn't an example
of being a great citizen. But you get my point.
But that's what, honestly does worry me, Like with Russell Wilson,
so I'm gonna jump off on a different process.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm with you on a personal as clear as day.
With Richard Sherman is screamed.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Personal is scream I don't like the d because there
was no facts to it. But I am open to
the conversation of guys who are not shoeins still having
a chance to gain or lose a spot in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Matthew Stafford ain't a shoein.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
He can gain if he messed around and win another
Super Bowl this year, next year he might That might
be the cementing point for him to get in. Right,
But you're teetering when you're Russell Wilson. You were right there.
You were at the club, hanging out in the entrance
looking seeing all the ladies in the club, but you
ain't fully in yet. And now the bouchers can come
and bounce you up out of there when you have
(09:51):
a run of four or five bad seasons.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But that getting kicked out of teams.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So I hear that. But when you make it as
if he never played any good except for when he
had a great defense, that's where I just have to.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
That's because he became me and Rob g and you
have talked about this before on and off the air.
He might be one of the greatest deep ball passes
in the last twenty twenty five years, like.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He's had some success.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
But here's a couple of things where I would get
concerned if I was Russell Wilson, his agent and his
wife or friend or brother, anybody around his camp.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Who are like, hey, you're you're You're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
The concern is how the last five years have gone
different teams, getting kicked out of those teams so much
so they want to pay you the lead. That's bad.
Then you get to Pittsburgh supposed to be the savior.
It looks good for a handful of games and it
looks awful. Then you go to Giants when they don't
even want to start dark yet they want you to
take the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Jet goes horrible.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Now three games that he's starting, and when you think
of him in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Here's a really bad one. Because Eli Vanning is not
a Hall.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Of Fame talent to me, but I understand because he
has the Super Bowls and he has super Bowl moments.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's the opposite for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
When you think of him in the Super Bowl, you
think of one of the worst calls in the sports,
in the history of sports, and that was not giving
the ball to beast Bo, who had gotten you all
the way down the field, got.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You to the dag on what two yard line?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
The Patriots want to let you in so they can
have a little bit of time to score, and you say, nah,
we're gonna pass this, and they turn it over, get
the interception, lose the game. The worst call in history
of sports, and unfortunately that's our super Bowl memory. So
thinking of that, thinking of the last five year, how
it's gone for him, he may have played himself out
the Hall of Fame if he was just mediocre he
(11:31):
like Eli was the last five years. I don't think
Eli should get in, but I can see where people
might because of the Super Bowls. He just was at
least mediocre and just kind of wrote it out being eh.
Russell has been bad and that's what hurt him because
it's I'm looking at it one, two, three, four, five
years of bad and a bad Super Bowl call and
bad you know, pr if you will over the last
(11:53):
handful of years sans for Sierra, I just see how he.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Could play them out. And again there are teetering guys.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Matthew Stafford teetering another Super Bowl great bad two seasons
or two he may never get in. There's guys I
think who can play themselves in because Peyton, Tom Brady,
Joe Montana, those guys can go to other teams and
it can be not the great answer. They were shoeings
like way all up in the club. They had VIP section,
velvet ropes, bottle of nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
When you win MVPs, it's a different conversation. You got
to remember that, like guys who exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So that's what I'm saying. Those guys are so far in.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Peyton can have a horrible neck, have a bad season
or two, it doesn't matter. He all up in the club.
He's standing on the club with his feet ruining the couches.
That's how deep in the club he is. They don't
matter how bad he go. And Russell to me, and
it's more of a broader conversation of you can.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Conversation, but you can't just.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
You can't let your personal bias affect your broadcasting.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
That's Richard Sherman do time and time a fudge the numbers.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Thirty three and fifteen without yo, but Chri's still really good.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Mind you a handful of pro bowls too.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And that's what I'm talking about. You can't keep doing that.
Come on, man, like be fair or just say you
know what.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna take myself out of this conversation because I
ask real because I hate this guy that's actually real
and I can't be real with it, and I can't
be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And again, this is my argument about having people on
the set who can check some of these guys and
fact check them and make hold them to a standard
that you just can't say anything and make it as
gospel seriously, and that that's the PROBLEMND.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, Richard, Richard Richard to be f teammate is giving
Scottie Pippen and Isaiah Thomas it's you know what I mean,
Like it's whatever went on? He really don't like buddy,
like for real. I mean, because here you could have
went on and say, yeah, he's just been playing bad
last half of a year. But as all documented that
they hate and my last point here too real quick
(13:56):
to go back at Richard Sherman real quick. I don't
like when people people try to call and single somebody out.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well, he had the leads in the boom dark.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Most teams who won or were successful for a great
four five six years had a bunch of something. Those
Dallas Cowboys teams in the nineties offense was crazy, defense
has Hall of famers all around.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
They were crazy. Go look at those late.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Eighties, early nineties San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
You look at those seventies Steelers, Like, dude, there's a
reason why teams were good for you know, four or five, six,
seven years. They had a bunch of good players. So
the idea that he played with a really good defense, like,
I don't like that, because Magic Johnson teams were loaded.
Birds teams were loaded. You know, Shaq Kobe had a
few plats. Some guys that tea the heatles had got
like Curry had KD and Clayon's teams who went for
(14:45):
a while got a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No doubt, all right, eight seven to seven ninety nine
on Fox and John carlos Ston also hit a home run.
Another home run.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hey, that's two for him.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, he's got two to night h sixty three Yankees
over the they're trying to win the al ease. Last
time I saw Toronto, we'll get caught up with Steve
at the bottom of the hour. It was two to
two in Toronto in that game. So there's a lot
going on. Cleveland's losing four to two and the Tigers
and Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I think that's still scoreless. I think that's still scoreless
in Boston, So a lot going on there. All right.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman's attack on Russell Wilson
feel personal to you? And do you think the last
three years remove Russ from the Hall of Fame? As
far as consideration. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
It is the Odd Couple on a funky Flashback Friday,
Rob Parker kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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nine on Fox, take a few calls. Richard Sherman had
some things to say, as always when it comes to
Russell Wilson, and Tony Gonzalez got in on it as well.
Did Russell Wilson play himself out of the Hall of Fame?
Is it possible? Is it too personal for Richard Sherman?
(18:30):
What are your thoughts? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That we got?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
All right, let's start with Maurice in Virginia. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
What's up about Oh what's up?
Speaker 15 (18:39):
What's up? Robin Kelvin Sherman doesn't know what he's talking about.
He didn't play himself, Well, maybe he did. I mean,
but he had a better career than everyone from the
legendary defense except for Bobby Wagner, that's the only player.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's a good point.
Speaker 15 (18:58):
Yeah, I mean, he's he's had a great career. I mean,
he said some bad years, but it's way more good
than it is bad. And in particular he's had a
he's a better quarterback than Rob's guy.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I mean he was, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Here's the part of Maurice that that if somebody with
any kind of information knowledge sitting at that desk could
have said, hey, Richard, that's weird because he was a
nine time Pro bowler with the with Seattle.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
He went to Pro Bowl nine times.
Speaker 11 (19:34):
Richard Sherman said he had have it won for a
couple of years with the legion of.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Boom, that he wouldn't be any good. Thanks Maurice, Rob
g jumping real quick.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
It's even worse than that, guys, this this dad will
blow your mind.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Even though nine time approba.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Richard, that's two persons. He's blinded about how he is now.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Dub I think is on the side of where rest
is probably not a Hall Fame, and that's fine. He
can believe that's totally fair. But I think even you
would agree. Russ So Wilson being one of only seven
quarterbacks NFL history with ten plus Pro Bowls and a
Super Bowl win, and the other six guys three of
already in the Hall of Fame United is Peyton Varvre.
(20:12):
The other three are gonna get in Brady Rogers Breeze.
So to say like he wasn't also ran, he was
along for the ride is just so wildly different.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And that's the part. Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You could have your beliefs or whatever, but you can't
discount his entire career. Could you have a personal vendetta
or something? Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple.
Fox Sports Radio, what's up, dright, how you doing?
Speaker 16 (20:38):
Thanks for taking the call? Listen our Richard Sherman turned
Tony Gondalez. There's clearly water under the bridge there, and
they frankly tell on themselves by going overboard. In there
now is Russell Wilson. He's down on one knee, you
know what I mean, he's having a tough time. But
by you piling on, that puts a bright light on
why are you taking it to this extent? And the
bottom line is this, we don't remember that this sent
(21:00):
at the end of a foster, a Hall of Fame
level player's career. We don't remember that about Johnny United,
we don't remember that about Joe name it.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
You picked the player.
Speaker 16 (21:09):
It's tough to leave the arena when you've been the guy.
So most people do stay too long. But in the
hand of the time and the scope of history, you
generally refer back to the glory days when they were
at their pinnacle, and that outweighs the the stuff at
the end, and they end up getting in to these
hall of fames and having these uh late lifetime achievements.
So rob to your point. You know you have to
(21:30):
be objective, okay, and you show that you're not when
you when you take shot unnecessarily you can just let
the proof speak for itself, you know, and then tell
the story right that you having to put the pi alogue,
thanks take difficult.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No problems.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Have you got some numbers and stats to break up
your point?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And then if you would have said Russell Wilson, right,
I mean, uh, Richard Sherman.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
He failed to make the Pro Bowl the next four
years and he had, you know, a losing record, but
they got to be accurate like you do out there.
He's had numbers. None of them added up there.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
He made it like he completely fell off the you know,
facity of map, and that was not the case. He's
falling off the map now, but he did not fall
off the map the handful of years after them. Essentially,
like I said, it's split in the half. Half was
great with him, half was really.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Good, but Tam made it like he was nothing once
the was the defense left, and that's true.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
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Speaker 6 (22:31):
It is The ot Couple, Rod Parker Kelvin Washington on
the Funky Flashback Fridays. Hey, if you got aky knees,
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how juvenile we are by the way, and we got
a guess. Alex came he letting our guests.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Now we all say this to the marl and just
tied the Mets. It's too two now down to number Iami.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
It's just too much going on in base Ryley. Literally,
you're gonna have to keep me in breast. I can't
keep up with all of it. Right now, we are joined,
as I mentioned a moment ago, by Cadre Ishmael.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
He is a Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
He is a co host of the Purple pre and
postgame show on w JYZ TV in Baltimore, and he
is of course joining the I couple.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Now, Cadre, what's up, brother, what's happening?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Gentlemen, gentlemen? What's going on with y'all?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm just gonna know, have you fumbled the football lately
and cost your team any games?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I'm just asking for a front.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Well, I'm just saying, when you got Hall of Fame credentials,
you recognize that bad things might happen, but you get
a chance to bounce back and hopefully we get a
bounce back.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, well, let's let's stay there for a second. Bounce
back is gonna be tough against the Chiefs. World we
know Lamar Jackson currently is sitting at one and five,
including the playoffs against them against specifically Patrick Mahomes. One
of the things we talked about earlier was who needed
the game most. I said the ray needed the most
because I felt like the team could start to crack,
start to fall, start to start pointing fingers at each other.
(24:05):
Rob said the Chiefs because a great point. He said,
you know, looking at the division.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Where are you on that? And just what does it
take for Lamar Jackson and team to win?
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Well, I think with the Ravens going into the year,
everyone was saying they had this roster that was the
best roster in the NFL and let them punch their
ticket to San Francisco and plays the super Bowl before
the season even starts. So I think if you get
also a one and three start, and depended upon what
(24:38):
metrics you use to calculate the percentages of teams in
NFL history to have made the playoffs with the one
in three record, I don't care what presented you would say,
it would be bleak and almost hardly improbable that you
would be able to accomplish set task. So I would
say the Ravens since they they had so much of
(25:01):
a hitch start over the rest of the league by
just having the roster on a piece of paper alone.
So with that, I think the Ravens going into our head,
they have to come away with a victory or Armageddon
is going to happen here in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
See here's why I disagree, because the division is there
for the taken, even if they were to lose. Joe
Burrows heard the Browns aren't good. Aaron Rodgers is forty
one years old, and Whillow off to a good start,
he could break down at any point, Like who scares
you in that division?
Speaker 7 (25:39):
That?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And I'm not saying they don't want to win, but
I don't think the season's over in that division if
they lose and become.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
One and three.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
John Harva, since winning the Super Bowl is four and seven.
So my retort to your retort on top of their
retort torch tour, is this that four and seven and
having a team that was supposed to be Super Bowl
or bust, that's a problem. Because if you do run
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through your AFC North Division and yes, you made the
correct assumptions and assessments of each team, the boys, you
still got to play them and you there's no given win.
But if you look at it raw, you're looking at
a team that has struggled in the playoffs even into
(26:36):
Lamar Jackson era. So it is going to put in
focus can you win? Basically you're gonna if you're one
to three, and if you get into the playoffs, I
mean you're you're looking at your you're going to be
a wild card team to begin with, and you're going
to go up against those teams that you had l's.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Against what they were winning all the games and winning
a division and all that, they haven't been able to
get there off of that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I've seen the Green Bay Packers of the sixth seed win.
I've seen the Giants of the sixth seed win twice. Like,
maybe it's a different path and maybe it's not great
to be the hunting I mean, you know, the top dog,
and you have to fight your way and build to it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's all I'm saying is there's a different way when
they seem to be the top dog at the top
of it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It just hasn't worked out for them.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
So I like that glass half full approach. I mean,
I'm a glass half full of person, and I think
that for Baltimore, it seems that when everyone is against them,
they seem to rise up and they answer the call.
What's that?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Said?
Speaker 7 (27:43):
John Ardross Bills four and seven. So I am curious
to see what changes and how his coaching staff can
handle the set adjustments that are needed to get his
team to play well enough, especially if they do make
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Codre is my guest right now on the Odd Couple
Robin Kevin on a funky flashback Friday. You know it's funny,
Condrie is The game of the week is the one
we're talking about with two teams who've only won one
game each. But there's another game that if I told
you it four weeks ago, you would have thought it
wouldn't be sexy, but it kind of is now. That's
the Colts at the Rams three and oh Colts two
(28:26):
and one, Rams Colts playing very well. Stikeen's got the
best version of Danny Dimes we've ever seen. What do
you make of the Colts right now? Are they a
real team or is this just the cards are gonna
fall and fumble here soon?
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Well, I'm hoping Daniel Jones is the real deal. I
think Shane Stankin is hoping that he's the real deal,
and he believes in him. I think one thing we
know with him is that this offense seems to fit him.
I think that he probably learned it off a lot
sitting back and watching how things operated in Minnesota before
he got his opportunity there in Indy. Their defense is
(29:03):
strong and stout enough, and so why not why not
be that team? I think if the Rams look at it,
they're sitting they're feeling pretty confident that all they got
to do a cigarette how not to give up two
block too goals? So the teams that really what's hurting
them more than anything. Both teams have skills to make
(29:24):
explosive plays. It's the team that has the determination to
not make a mistake that's going to be the team
that ultimately gets the victory.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I wanted to ask you about who's the other quarterback
we were just talking about, Sam Sam Donald. Sam Donald
on the flip side, who I was all for not
resigning the Vikings after he lost those two games, big
games at the end of last year. Where are you
(29:59):
on Sam do Arnold and his resurgence or his play
so far in Seattle?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, I think what day With Sam Donald. It's the
fact that he doesn't have to make the spectacular play
and it's more along the lines of, hey, I got
some talented receivers, let me just get them the football.
I think the Mike McDonald's way of coaching, it's about
my defense and as long as Sam Donald doesn't make
(30:31):
the critical error. I think he's smart enough and he's
better enough to yeah, manage the game, and that's not
a bad thing. I think he's seen enough football and
recognize that he doesn't have to do anything spectacular. Let
me just go out there and play. And he's been able.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
To show that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And last thing for me, Michael Parsons returning to Dallas,
there will be no video or anything from the Cowboys,
which I agree. He didn't win anything there, even win
a Defensive Player of the Year. There's nothing that he
won that he's a great player, and he went to
Green Bay has to be traded. Are you cool with
that that they're not gonna honor him for coming back
(31:10):
to Dallas?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
I wouldn't. I mean, you know, you're talking about the
legacy of the Cowboys and all that that entails, regardless
of whether or not they's you know, even been in
the playoffs and won and no Super Bowls in decades
and all that. But I mean, the history is the
history is the history. He's a key piece to it, sure,
but he's not like one of the all timers when
(31:36):
it comes to the Cowboys and establishing this mega legacy
of what number eleven meant to the Cowboys. So yeah,
I wouldn't honor him in that regards. By I'm sure
they're going to be you know, people love it on
him in a sense, but once the game kicks off,
you know what, if I'm Michael Persons, I'm like, yo,
(31:57):
I'm fighting to let Dak know, Hey, you haven't got
that special jersey that we can't touch you in practice.
The more I'm about to show you what my my
raft and how I feel it feels like when I
come up and hit you, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I feel like, listen, they're gonna move on, They're not
gonna think about him. And I don't even think he
fully expected to get a tribute like I think he
knew I wasn't there legendary enough.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I didn't we didn't win rings.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
That franchise has won money.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah, they got real guys who've done a bunch. I
think I think he's well versed enough to know that
tribute wasn't coming.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But if Fadre Man, we appreciate you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You know what I would do will put a message
on the board and tell everybody to cancel their follow
of his podcast.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That's what I would saying. I would tell the Dallas
Cowboy fans they got a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Of problems right now. They're with our CD LAMB.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I hear you on that. I think you know the
bottom line is that the Cowboys they have enough issues
of their own. And Michael Carson's well now that he's
with Green Bay. A lot of people are saying he
is kind of this modern day version of what Reggie
White did for Green Bay back in my day when
he was able to get them over the hop and
(33:08):
get a Super Bowl. So we'll see if it turns
out to be that way. But right now, yeah, Michael Parsons,
I don't think he is really worried about coming back
to Dallas and worrying about the fanfare.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
All right, Cadre, appreciate you man, thank you.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
I'm doing it again soon indued.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
All right, hey, Rob, we saw something last night that's
happened a handful of times already this season, and the
NFL needs to cut it out.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We'll tell you what we're talking about. It's The Odd Couple.
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
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with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
Fox Sports Radios.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You boys, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday. Hold,
I feel obligated Rob to do the dance. Uh uh
uh uh the.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Jump on it?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Are you doing it? You better be doing it? Is
he doing it? Robgi? That'll be a no for me.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Dog and Robbie, you better be doing it. Really move
you want to hurt my bat?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You better get a leaf.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Speaking of which, if you got ak D stiff back
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days luckily there's a leave, but just one pill.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
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Speaker 6 (34:28):
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
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Speaker 4 (34:37):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Hey, hey, he don't need no more of those blue pills.
No more those, especially not on those Golden Girl cruises.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Why do you think he wears the light blue pool
over in the studio?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Every good?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Point them.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That's a hey, robb Gi like that that jiff that
gift from my man pointing at his hand.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's you right now, Robbie, staying ready.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
You don't got to get ready exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
You be thinking a a right shout to Kya.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Basically the eminem's at this point, I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
You just popping them like that like skittles and tic TACs. Hey, Alex,
what's the line with the ID.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
If it's a sideway ID, it ain't for me.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
There you have it real quick.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
We've been having some we gotta talk about this kicking
this new NFL kickoff rule. I'm not a fan of
it in the sense that it's not that it's horrible
in and of it sell fellas. For me, it's that
they keep switching the rule up like we had this. Well,
this is the NFL.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
They change. Something happens in a playoff game or something happened,
and they change the rule the next year like like that,
that's an issue. I do have that this.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Like it's the kickoff rule change in like four or
five years. First they remember it. It was about health, Rod.
We don't want people to get hit. We know the
most scariest play, the most harmful play, is a kickoff return.
That's the one we don't want people get hurt. So
we're gonna have it deep in. You know, we're gonna
move the kicking team forward, so they basically kick it
all the way through the en zones.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Nobody's run right, nobody returns it right.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
And then and now it's too boring. We want the
action we were so I can't keep up with it.
And now it's costing teams because.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's a lot of rules. You gotta kick it.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Between the twenty and the goal line, but then if
it kicks into the end zone. Back in the day,
I remember you could just leave it alone. It'll be
a touch back. Now you got to touch it because
then again, if you don't touch it, the other team
gets the ball. And so yesterday last night we saw
how this came to backfire for the Cardinals. They fall
all the way back, got back in this game, tied
it up twenty twenty, you know, under a minute left.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They kick it off and they go up.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
It doesn't land lands like the twenty two yard line,
not the twenty y or below. And now the Seahawks
get the ball the forty.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
And a half. To be honest, twenty it might not
even be twenty two.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You're right, it might have been twenty and a half.
They get the ball the forty. All you need is,
you know, fifteen twenty yards.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And you got a chance to win this win.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
It's a fake win. It was set up. And that's
a bad rule right there.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And we saw it happen with the Steelers where against
the Patriots, the guy that kicked the Steeler score to
kick it off and it goes back in the end zone.
The guy doesn't grab it, he just got like he's
used to old rule, you just leave it along right here.
We go get out and then they go scoop it
up the Steelers and get a touchdown. It's just and
I know, if you're a special teamer, it's your responsibility,
(37:17):
your job to know the rules. Absolutely, I get that,
but my gosh, NFL make up your mind.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Is it about entertainment? Is it about health? Which one is?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's never about health.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't care what they tell you, never about health.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
The NFL could care less.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
That's why they won an eighteenth game because those games
are worth way more money than a preseason game because
preseason is local TV, no money involved.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
It's all about money. They don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Now they can get twenty five games in the NFL season,
they would be you.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Ain't lying, We'll give you three, We'll give you two
additional buys as if as if you know that's gonna
help me from taking all these injuries and these hits
and all these blows.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It's like, hey, they don't care. It's just about how
much money can we make. And unfortunately the players keep
going along with it until they are I'll say it
to you a million times, until they stop the games.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
They will never have any leverage against the owners. Until
they stop.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
We know that's probably not gonna happen, but yeah, man,
we've had three issue, rob what was the other one?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
IM missing one more is another issue we saw.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
The other one was with the ben Jonsono technically was
his fault where they said, hey, you could kick it
all way through the end zone, or kick it deep
and he kicks it deep into the end zone and
it allows them to run off the clock. Yeah, because
the old rule, if you kick it that deep, usually
the guy would take an eat.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
It's so confusing and that and that's a smart guy, right,
Ben Jons. You know, but dude, it's just they keep
switching it up on players. And again I can understand
it's the responsibility special teams, but this stuff because it's
not just one rule. It's not like always just kicking
off a little further. It's like there's rules to it
now multiple you can do this, you can take that,
you can do that. So make up your mind, NFL,
you confuse the people. Shot door said what we'll tap
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, our number two on
this funky Flashback Friday. Did Aaron Judge us in a
two run home run?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Or did I miss that? What happened?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I didn't see it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
If that's the case, He's walking around and it's four
and it was three to two Baltimore's four to two Yankees.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I did not watch, Rob g. Do you know that
you see or you did not see?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I do not watch Yankee games either out Okay.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I was, I'm doing a radio show. I'm not watching
the game.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Just say it, you do it, radio show. As long
as Aaron Judge ain't up, it's Cody, right, Cody's up.
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It was a two run home run by Aaron Judge,
unbelievable bat in three thirty one.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Yeah, that's what we talked about. This, this this final
few days is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It could be. It can that race.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
If he has a big weekend right and cal doesn't,
you know what I mean, it could change.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Look, this is gonna be one of those ones people.
I remember that that summer of you will not run
the fall. But you know what I mean that that
season where it was that close, came down to the
to the last Sunday.
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Speaker 6 (02:19):
Oh yeah, I don't know if yeah, I don't know
if kids really understand how fun it used to be. Yeah,
they were like the first and one. Yeah, they were
the first and one.
Speaker 7 (02:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You know, so gets kids like my daughters.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Man, I have to take them because they'll be blown away,
like they they'll see tricks they've never seen any games
and fun and so it's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It's still alive one hundred years later. It's awesome to.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
See it really really is. And Rob g.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Almost blew a gasket last night. This is what I
talked about all the time, Kelvin.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
This.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm not against athletes being on Okay, I'm not. People say, oh,
you just yelling goodnit podcast your yellen.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The problem I have is that they have skin in
the game, and more than us Kelvin, who haven't played.
It's personal. It's always personal when they're ripping on each other.
Right when Chady McCoy called Dak Prescott ass on national television,
(03:28):
or like somebody's Cam Newton when his hat's not too
tight and he's telling because he didn't win a Super Bowl,
or because he didn't have this or that.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It just sounds personal.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And last night the personal attacks against Russell Wilson, which
just crazy to me. And we do have the sound.
So let's hear that first, Tony Gonzales first, and then
Richard Sherman Payne talking about Russell No, not talking about
Russell Wilson, trashing him.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Do you think we've seen the last of Russell Wilson?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Honest, I hope we have.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
And I say that because just looking at him and
his career, his legacy, like he talked about, if ever
there was somebody who played himself out of a Hall
of fame, it's Russell Wilson. And I say that because
look at what he's what's happened ever since he left Seattle.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
When he was in Seattle, he was the man. He
was making these good plays. He won a Super went
to two of them.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
But as soon as he left there, he went the
Denver sign that big old deal.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They paid him thirty nine million dollars to leave.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
He goes to Pittsburgh, plays there one year, he's out
of there. Now he goes here and has three games.
I just don't know if it's gonna get any better.
And I don't want to see him on a sideline
holding a clipboard.
Speaker 9 (04:38):
I think you got to judge his career off. When
the legion the Boom was there, he had a legendary
defense and all time defense, and how much success he had,
and then without that legendary defense, the success he had
without that legendary defense, he's been four and eleven, seven
and eight all in three to start with the Giants
Like that's he was a winning football player in Seattle,
and people said, hey, winning his football player, all this
(04:59):
good stuff, all theseccolades, and now you get to go
on your own and you get to prove, hey, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
This great quarterback.
Speaker 9 (05:04):
I'm this guy that's gonna be dominant, and it just
hasn't worked out that way.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Before we before we get to all takes Kelvin uh huh,
Rob G will give you this, the facts that were
of course not addressed when they were talking about his
stats and when the legion of Boom gone and and
he couldn't play and he was terrible and all that. Okay,
Rob G, let's get some facts. Everybody's sitting around that
(05:30):
desk cashing those checks. But nobody will push back, nobody
will challenge any of the stuff that's being tossed around
as fat and none of it is fat.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
So sher made a points that, hey, he was only
great with the Legion of Boom, and he pointed out
the last three and a half years where the record
has been dismal. Right, it'll be great, honest with you.
It was bad what he neglected to mention where there's
a whole middle ground in Seattle.
Speaker 10 (05:54):
Between I thought that immediately between after the Legion of
Boom had disintegrated and before he left the Yes, during
that time, Russell Wilson with the Seahawks ten and six,
eleven and five, twelve and four and then Anty badly
six and eight.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Calvin right there in those three seasons there. But but
Richard Sherman.
Speaker 11 (06:13):
Is telling you as fact that he was garbage once
the Legion of Boom was done.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's not true, Richard.
Speaker 11 (06:21):
She just say it, Richard, I can't stand Russell Wilson.
And I'm gonna sit here and give you a bold
face live on national streaming television, and there are no
facts to it, and I'll just say it as gospel,
and people at Homer watching and they'll think these are
all true. Why why couldn't somebody stand up and say, Richard,
(06:44):
your numbers are fugazy, they're fraudulent, they're terrible, they don't
add up. What about that twelve and fourth season, what
about that eleven win season without the legion of boom.
That's why we need journalists on this said, with these
gone crazy former athletes who are jaded and jealous and
(07:07):
give you misinformation and all they care about is their
personal vandettas against other athletes is pathetic.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's sickening, it's hard to stomach and watch.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, you're on your campaign trail right there. Brother. Hey,
I'm most voted.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
At the part.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Rob Sterling Junior, Rob Sterling Jr.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
This is where you're not wrong thirty three and fifteen
without the legion of boom. So, Richard, if you want
to have the conversation, we can have the conversation. Because
I don't think Russell Wilson is a shoe into the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Now, I'm totally open to the conversation.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
However, he'd ignored basically half a run with y'all, half
a run without y'all, and he was good both runs.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So I Richard Shermon was trivin.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
On that now I heard Tony Gonzalez sounded more almost
like a love of the care saying, I don't want
to picture you as clipboard guy. I want to think
of you as you know how I thought of you
in Seattle. Because it's been rough the last handful of seasons.
So I'm with you on Richard Shermon, and it's clearly
personal for him, just say it clearly personal. For Marshawn Lynch,
it's clearly personal. For a handful of other guys from
(08:24):
those Seattle teams. It's clearly personal. For Sean Payton. It
might be personal for the Steelers. We know it's personal
for the I forgot the offensive coordinator and the quarterback coach.
I know they had it out last year. So there
is something about Russell Wilson that's rubbing people the wrong
way everywhere he goes. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Maybe he has a good life that they don't.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
He's asking people for his own office, he's asking guys
the schedule time to talk to me.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Far have had his own locker room with the Jets.
Nobody ever, nobody ever talks about that. He didn't even
dress with his teammates.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Well, I mean that I'd be the guy to be
trying to talk to. You know, he wasn't an example
of being a great citizen. But you get my point.
But that's what, honestly does worry me, Like with Russell Wilson,
so I'm gonna jump off on a different process.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm with you on a personal as clear as day.
With Richard Sherman is screamed.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Personal is scream I don't like the d because there
was no facts to it. But I am open to
the conversation of guys who are not shoeins still having
a chance to gain or lose a spot in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Matthew Stafford ain't a shoein.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
He can gain if he messed around and win another
Super Bowl this year, next year he might That might
be the cementing point for him to get in. Right,
But you're teetering when you're Russell Wilson. You were right there.
You were at the club, hanging out in the entrance
looking seeing all the ladies in the club, but you
ain't fully in yet. And now the bouchers can come
and bounce you up out of there when you have
(09:51):
a run of four or five bad seasons.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But that getting kicked out of teams.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So I hear that. But when you make it as
if he never played any good except for when he
had a great defense, that's where I just have to.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
That's because he became me and Rob g and you
have talked about this before on and off the air.
He might be one of the greatest deep ball passes
in the last twenty twenty five years, like.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He's had some success.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
But here's a couple of things where I would get
concerned if I was Russell Wilson, his agent and his
wife or friend or brother, anybody around his camp.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Who are like, hey, you're you're You're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
The concern is how the last five years have gone
different teams, getting kicked out of those teams so much
so they want to pay you the lead. That's bad.
Then you get to Pittsburgh supposed to be the savior.
It looks good for a handful of games and it
looks awful. Then you go to Giants when they don't
even want to start dark yet they want you to
take the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Jet goes horrible.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Now three games that he's starting, and when you think
of him in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Here's a really bad one. Because Eli Vanning is not
a Hall.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Of Fame talent to me, but I understand because he
has the Super Bowls and he has super Bowl moments.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's the opposite for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
When you think of him in the Super Bowl, you
think of one of the worst calls in the sports,
in the history of sports, and that was not giving
the ball to beast Bo, who had gotten you all
the way down the field, got.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You to the dag on what two yard line?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
The Patriots want to let you in so they can
have a little bit of time to score, and you say, nah,
we're gonna pass this, and they turn it over, get
the interception, lose the game. The worst call in history
of sports, and unfortunately that's our super Bowl memory. So
thinking of that, thinking of the last five year, how
it's gone for him, he may have played himself out
the Hall of Fame if he was just mediocre he
(11:31):
like Eli was the last five years. I don't think
Eli should get in, but I can see where people
might because of the Super Bowls. He just was at
least mediocre and just kind of wrote it out being eh.
Russell has been bad and that's what hurt him because
it's I'm looking at it one, two, three, four, five
years of bad and a bad Super Bowl call and
bad you know, pr if you will over the last
(11:53):
handful of years sans for Sierra, I just see how he.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Could play them out. And again there are teetering guys.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Matthew Stafford teetering another Super Bowl great bad two seasons
or two he may never get in. There's guys I
think who can play themselves in because Peyton, Tom Brady,
Joe Montana, those guys can go to other teams and
it can be not the great answer. They were shoeings
like way all up in the club. They had VIP section,
velvet ropes, bottle of nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
When you win MVPs, it's a different conversation. You got
to remember that, like guys who exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So that's what I'm saying. Those guys are so far in.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Peyton can have a horrible neck, have a bad season
or two, it doesn't matter. He all up in the club.
He's standing on the club with his feet ruining the couches.
That's how deep in the club he is. They don't
matter how bad he go. And Russell to me, and
it's more of a broader conversation of you can.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Conversation, but you can't just.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
You can't let your personal bias affect your broadcasting.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
That's Richard Sherman do time and time a fudge the numbers.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Thirty three and fifteen without yo, but Chri's still really good.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Mind you a handful of pro bowls too.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And that's what I'm talking about. You can't keep doing that.
Come on, man, like be fair or just say you
know what.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm gonna take myself out of this conversation because I
ask real because I hate this guy that's actually real
and I can't be real with it, and I can't
be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And again, this is my argument about having people on
the set who can check some of these guys and
fact check them and make hold them to a standard
that you just can't say anything and make it as
gospel seriously, and that that's the PROBLEMND.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Yeah, Richard, Richard Richard to be f teammate is giving
Scottie Pippen and Isaiah Thomas it's you know what I mean,
Like it's whatever went on? He really don't like buddy,
like for real. I mean, because here you could have
went on and say, yeah, he's just been playing bad
last half of a year. But as all documented that
they hate and my last point here too real quick
(13:56):
to go back at Richard Sherman real quick. I don't
like when people people try to call and single somebody out.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well, he had the leads in the boom dark.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Most teams who won or were successful for a great
four five six years had a bunch of something. Those
Dallas Cowboys teams in the nineties offense was crazy, defense
has Hall of famers all around.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
They were crazy. Go look at those late.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Eighties, early nineties San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
You look at those seventies Steelers, Like, dude, there's a
reason why teams were good for you know, four or five, six,
seven years. They had a bunch of good players. So
the idea that he played with a really good defense, like,
I don't like that, because Magic Johnson teams were loaded.
Birds teams were loaded. You know, Shaq Kobe had a
few plats. Some guys that tea the heatles had got
like Curry had KD and Clayon's teams who went for
(14:45):
a while got a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No doubt, all right, eight seven to seven ninety nine
on Fox and John carlos Ston also hit a home run.
Another home run.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Hey, that's two for him.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, he's got two to night h sixty three Yankees
over the they're trying to win the al ease. Last
time I saw Toronto, we'll get caught up with Steve
at the bottom of the hour. It was two to
two in Toronto in that game. So there's a lot
going on. Cleveland's losing four to two and the Tigers
and Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I think that's still scoreless. I think that's still scoreless
in Boston, So a lot going on there. All right.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Did Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman's attack on Russell Wilson
feel personal to you? And do you think the last
three years remove Russ from the Hall of Fame? As
far as consideration. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
It is the Odd Couple on a funky Flashback Friday,
Rob Parker kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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nine on Fox, take a few calls. Richard Sherman had
some things to say, as always when it comes to
Russell Wilson, and Tony Gonzalez got in on it as well.
Did Russell Wilson play himself out of the Hall of Fame?
Is it possible? Is it too personal for Richard Sherman?
(18:30):
What are your thoughts? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That we got?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
All right, let's start with Maurice in Virginia. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
What's up about Oh what's up?
Speaker 15 (18:39):
What's up? Robin Kelvin Sherman doesn't know what he's talking about.
He didn't play himself, Well, maybe he did. I mean,
but he had a better career than everyone from the
legendary defense except for Bobby Wagner, that's the only player.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's a good point.
Speaker 15 (18:58):
Yeah, I mean, he's he's had a great career. I mean,
he said some bad years, but it's way more good
than it is bad. And in particular he's had a
he's a better quarterback than Rob's guy.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So I mean he was, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Here's the part of Maurice that that if somebody with
any kind of information knowledge sitting at that desk could
have said, hey, Richard, that's weird because he was a
nine time Pro bowler with the with Seattle.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
He went to Pro Bowl nine times.
Speaker 11 (19:34):
Richard Sherman said he had have it won for a
couple of years with the legion of.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Boom, that he wouldn't be any good. Thanks Maurice, Rob
g jumping real quick.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
It's even worse than that, guys, this this dad will
blow your mind.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Even though nine time approba.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Richard, that's two persons. He's blinded about how he is now.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Dub I think is on the side of where rest
is probably not a Hall Fame, and that's fine. He
can believe that's totally fair. But I think even you
would agree. Russ So Wilson being one of only seven
quarterbacks NFL history with ten plus Pro Bowls and a
Super Bowl win, and the other six guys three of
already in the Hall of Fame United is Peyton Varvre.
(20:12):
The other three are gonna get in Brady Rogers Breeze.
So to say like he wasn't also ran, he was
along for the ride is just so wildly different.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And that's the part. Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You could have your beliefs or whatever, but you can't
discount his entire career. Could you have a personal vendetta
or something? Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple.
Fox Sports Radio, what's up, dright, how you doing?
Speaker 16 (20:38):
Thanks for taking the call? Listen our Richard Sherman turned
Tony Gondalez. There's clearly water under the bridge there, and
they frankly tell on themselves by going overboard. In there
now is Russell Wilson. He's down on one knee, you
know what I mean, he's having a tough time. But
by you piling on, that puts a bright light on
why are you taking it to this extent? And the
bottom line is this, we don't remember that this sent
(21:00):
at the end of a foster, a Hall of Fame
level player's career. We don't remember that about Johnny United,
we don't remember that about Joe name it.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
You picked the player.
Speaker 16 (21:09):
It's tough to leave the arena when you've been the guy.
So most people do stay too long. But in the
hand of the time and the scope of history, you
generally refer back to the glory days when they were
at their pinnacle, and that outweighs the the stuff at
the end, and they end up getting in to these
hall of fames and having these uh late lifetime achievements.
So rob to your point. You know you have to
(21:30):
be objective, okay, and you show that you're not when
you when you take shot unnecessarily you can just let
the proof speak for itself, you know, and then tell
the story right that you having to put the pi alogue,
thanks take difficult.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
No problems.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Have you got some numbers and stats to break up
your point?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And then if you would have said Russell Wilson, right,
I mean, uh, Richard Sherman.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
He failed to make the Pro Bowl the next four
years and he had, you know, a losing record, but
they got to be accurate like you do out there.
He's had numbers. None of them added up there.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
He made it like he completely fell off the you know,
facity of map, and that was not the case. He's
falling off the map now, but he did not fall
off the map the handful of years after them. Essentially,
like I said, it's split in the half. Half was
great with him, half was really.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Good, but Tam made it like he was nothing once
the was the defense left, and that's true.
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Speaker 6 (22:31):
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Speaker 6 (23:01):
It's just too much going on in base Ryley. Literally,
you're gonna have to keep me in breast. I can't
keep up with all of it. Right now, we are joined,
as I mentioned a moment ago, by Cadre Ishmael.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
He is a Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
He is a co host of the Purple pre and
postgame show on w JYZ TV in Baltimore, and he
is of course joining the I couple.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Now, Cadre, what's up, brother, what's happening?
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Gentlemen, gentlemen? What's going on with y'all?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm just gonna know, have you fumbled the football lately
and cost your team any games?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I'm just asking for a front.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Well, I'm just saying, when you got Hall of Fame credentials,
you recognize that bad things might happen, but you get
a chance to bounce back and hopefully we get a
bounce back.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Yeah, well, let's let's stay there for a second. Bounce
back is gonna be tough against the Chiefs. World we
know Lamar Jackson currently is sitting at one and five,
including the playoffs against them against specifically Patrick Mahomes. One
of the things we talked about earlier was who needed
the game most. I said the ray needed the most
because I felt like the team could start to crack,
start to fall, start to start pointing fingers at each other.
(24:05):
Rob said the Chiefs because a great point. He said,
you know, looking at the division.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Where are you on that? And just what does it
take for Lamar Jackson and team to win?
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Well, I think with the Ravens going into the year,
everyone was saying they had this roster that was the
best roster in the NFL and let them punch their
ticket to San Francisco and plays the super Bowl before
the season even starts. So I think if you get
also a one and three start, and depended upon what
(24:38):
metrics you use to calculate the percentages of teams in
NFL history to have made the playoffs with the one
in three record, I don't care what presented you would say,
it would be bleak and almost hardly improbable that you
would be able to accomplish set task. So I would
say the Ravens since they they had so much of
(25:01):
a hitch start over the rest of the league by
just having the roster on a piece of paper alone.
So with that, I think the Ravens going into our head,
they have to come away with a victory or Armageddon
is going to happen here in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
See here's why I disagree, because the division is there
for the taken, even if they were to lose. Joe
Burrows heard the Browns aren't good. Aaron Rodgers is forty
one years old, and Whillow off to a good start,
he could break down at any point, Like who scares
you in that division?
Speaker 7 (25:39):
That?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And I'm not saying they don't want to win, but
I don't think the season's over in that division if
they lose and become.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
One and three.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
John Harva, since winning the Super Bowl is four and seven.
So my retort to your retort on top of their
retort torch tour, is this that four and seven and
having a team that was supposed to be Super Bowl
or bust, that's a problem. Because if you do run
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through your AFC North Division and yes, you made the
correct assumptions and assessments of each team, the boys, you
still got to play them and you there's no given win.
But if you look at it raw, you're looking at
a team that has struggled in the playoffs even into
(26:36):
Lamar Jackson era. So it is going to put in
focus can you win? Basically you're gonna if you're one
to three, and if you get into the playoffs, I
mean you're you're looking at your you're going to be
a wild card team to begin with, and you're going
to go up against those teams that you had l's.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Against what they were winning all the games and winning
a division and all that, they haven't been able to
get there off of that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I've seen the Green Bay Packers of the sixth seed win.
I've seen the Giants of the sixth seed win twice. Like,
maybe it's a different path and maybe it's not great
to be the hunting I mean, you know, the top dog,
and you have to fight your way and build to it.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's all I'm saying is there's a different way when
they seem to be the top dog at the top
of it.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It just hasn't worked out for them.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
So I like that glass half full approach. I mean,
I'm a glass half full of person, and I think
that for Baltimore, it seems that when everyone is against them,
they seem to rise up and they answer the call.
What's that?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Said?
Speaker 7 (27:43):
John Ardross Bills four and seven. So I am curious
to see what changes and how his coaching staff can
handle the set adjustments that are needed to get his
team to play well enough, especially if they do make
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Codre is my guest right now on the Odd Couple
Robin Kevin on a funky flashback Friday. You know it's funny,
Condrie is The game of the week is the one
we're talking about with two teams who've only won one
game each. But there's another game that if I told
you it four weeks ago, you would have thought it
wouldn't be sexy, but it kind of is now. That's
the Colts at the Rams three and oh Colts two
(28:26):
and one, Rams Colts playing very well. Stikeen's got the
best version of Danny Dimes we've ever seen. What do
you make of the Colts right now? Are they a
real team or is this just the cards are gonna
fall and fumble here soon?
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Well, I'm hoping Daniel Jones is the real deal. I
think Shane Stankin is hoping that he's the real deal,
and he believes in him. I think one thing we
know with him is that this offense seems to fit him.
I think that he probably learned it off a lot
sitting back and watching how things operated in Minnesota before
he got his opportunity there in Indy. Their defense is
(29:03):
strong and stout enough, and so why not why not
be that team? I think if the Rams look at it,
they're sitting they're feeling pretty confident that all they got
to do a cigarette how not to give up two
block too goals? So the teams that really what's hurting
them more than anything. Both teams have skills to make
(29:24):
explosive plays. It's the team that has the determination to
not make a mistake that's going to be the team
that ultimately gets the victory.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I wanted to ask you about who's the other quarterback
we were just talking about, Sam Sam Donald. Sam Donald
on the flip side, who I was all for not
resigning the Vikings after he lost those two games, big
games at the end of last year. Where are you
(29:59):
on Sam do Arnold and his resurgence or his play
so far in Seattle?
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, I think what day With Sam Donald. It's the
fact that he doesn't have to make the spectacular play
and it's more along the lines of, hey, I got
some talented receivers, let me just get them the football.
I think the Mike McDonald's way of coaching, it's about
my defense and as long as Sam Donald doesn't make
(30:31):
the critical error. I think he's smart enough and he's
better enough to yeah, manage the game, and that's not
a bad thing. I think he's seen enough football and
recognize that he doesn't have to do anything spectacular. Let
me just go out there and play. And he's been able.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
To show that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
And last thing for me, Michael Parsons returning to Dallas,
there will be no video or anything from the Cowboys,
which I agree. He didn't win anything there, even win
a Defensive Player of the Year. There's nothing that he
won that he's a great player, and he went to
Green Bay has to be traded. Are you cool with
that that they're not gonna honor him for coming back
(31:10):
to Dallas?
Speaker 7 (31:13):
I wouldn't. I mean, you know, you're talking about the
legacy of the Cowboys and all that that entails, regardless
of whether or not they's you know, even been in
the playoffs and won and no Super Bowls in decades
and all that. But I mean, the history is the
history is the history. He's a key piece to it, sure,
but he's not like one of the all timers when
(31:36):
it comes to the Cowboys and establishing this mega legacy
of what number eleven meant to the Cowboys. So yeah,
I wouldn't honor him in that regards. By I'm sure
they're going to be you know, people love it on
him in a sense, but once the game kicks off,
you know what, if I'm Michael Persons, I'm like, yo,
(31:57):
I'm fighting to let Dak know, Hey, you haven't got
that special jersey that we can't touch you in practice.
The more I'm about to show you what my my
raft and how I feel it feels like when I
come up and hit you, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
I feel like, listen, they're gonna move on, They're not
gonna think about him. And I don't even think he
fully expected to get a tribute like I think he
knew I wasn't there legendary enough.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I didn't we didn't win rings.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
That franchise has won money.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah, they got real guys who've done a bunch. I
think I think he's well versed enough to know that
tribute wasn't coming.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But if Fadre Man, we appreciate you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
You know what I would do will put a message
on the board and tell everybody to cancel their follow
of his podcast.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That's what I would saying. I would tell the Dallas
Cowboy fans they got a lot.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Of problems right now. They're with our CD LAMB.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
I hear you on that. I think you know the
bottom line is that the Cowboys they have enough issues
of their own. And Michael Carson's well now that he's
with Green Bay. A lot of people are saying he
is kind of this modern day version of what Reggie
White did for Green Bay back in my day when
he was able to get them over the hop and
(33:08):
get a Super Bowl. So we'll see if it turns
out to be that way. But right now, yeah, Michael Parsons,
I don't think he is really worried about coming back
to Dallas and worrying about the fanfare.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
All right, Cadre, appreciate you man, thank you.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
I'm doing it again soon indued.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
All right, hey, Rob, we saw something last night that's
happened a handful of times already this season, and the
NFL needs to cut it out.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We'll tell you what we're talking about. It's The Odd Couple.
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
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iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Fox Sports Radios.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
You boys, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday. Hold,
I feel obligated Rob to do the dance. Uh uh
uh uh the.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Jump on it?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Are you doing it? You better be doing it? Is
he doing it? Robgi? That'll be a no for me.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Dog and Robbie, you better be doing it. Really move
you want to hurt my bat?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You better get a leaf.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
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joints not cooperating some days your body and on those
days luckily there's a leave, but just one pill.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
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Speaker 6 (34:28):
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you can keep it moving. Please use as directed.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Rob both.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Thanks.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Hey, hey, he don't need no more of those blue pills.
No more those, especially not on those Golden Girl cruises.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Why do you think he wears the light blue pool
over in the studio?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Every good?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Point them.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
That's a hey, robb Gi like that that jiff that
gift from my man pointing at his hand.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's you right now, Robbie, staying ready.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
You don't got to get ready exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
You be thinking a a right shout to Kya.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Basically the eminem's at this point, I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
You just popping them like that like skittles and tic TACs. Hey, Alex,
what's the line with the ID.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
If it's a sideway ID, it ain't for me.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
There you have it real quick.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
We've been having some we gotta talk about this kicking
this new NFL kickoff rule. I'm not a fan of
it in the sense that it's not that it's horrible
in and of it sell fellas. For me, it's that
they keep switching the rule up like we had this. Well,
this is the NFL.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
They change. Something happens in a playoff game or something happened,
and they change the rule the next year like like that,
that's an issue. I do have that this.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Like it's the kickoff rule change in like four or
five years. First they remember it. It was about health, Rod.
We don't want people to get hit. We know the
most scariest play, the most harmful play, is a kickoff return.
That's the one we don't want people get hurt. So
we're gonna have it deep in. You know, we're gonna
move the kicking team forward, so they basically kick it
all the way through the en zones.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Nobody's run right, nobody returns it right.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
And then and now it's too boring. We want the
action we were so I can't keep up with it.
And now it's costing teams because.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's a lot of rules. You gotta kick it.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Between the twenty and the goal line, but then if
it kicks into the end zone. Back in the day,
I remember you could just leave it alone. It'll be
a touch back. Now you got to touch it because
then again, if you don't touch it, the other team
gets the ball. And so yesterday last night we saw
how this came to backfire for the Cardinals. They fall
all the way back, got back in this game, tied
it up twenty twenty, you know, under a minute left.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They kick it off and they go up.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
It doesn't land lands like the twenty two yard line,
not the twenty y or below. And now the Seahawks
get the ball the forty.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
And a half. To be honest, twenty it might not
even be twenty two.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You're right, it might have been twenty and a half.
They get the ball the forty. All you need is,
you know, fifteen twenty yards.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
And you got a chance to win this win.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
It's a fake win. It was set up. And that's
a bad rule right there.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And we saw it happen with the Steelers where against
the Patriots, the guy that kicked the Steeler score to
kick it off and it goes back in the end zone.
The guy doesn't grab it, he just got like he's
used to old rule, you just leave it along right here.
We go get out and then they go scoop it
up the Steelers and get a touchdown. It's just and
I know, if you're a special teamer, it's your responsibility,
(37:17):
your job to know the rules. Absolutely, I get that,
but my gosh, NFL make up your mind.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Is it about entertainment? Is it about health? Which one is?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It's never about health.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't care what they tell you, never about health.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
The NFL could care less.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
That's why they won an eighteenth game because those games
are worth way more money than a preseason game because
preseason is local TV, no money involved.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
It's all about money. They don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Now they can get twenty five games in the NFL season,
they would be you.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Ain't lying, We'll give you three, We'll give you two
additional buys as if as if you know that's gonna
help me from taking all these injuries and these hits
and all these blows.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It's like, hey, they don't care. It's just about how
much money can we make. And unfortunately the players keep
going along with it until they are I'll say it
to you a million times, until they stop the games.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
They will never have any leverage against the owners. Until
they stop.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
We know that's probably not gonna happen, but yeah, man,
we've had three issue, rob what was the other one?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
IM missing one more is another issue we saw.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
The other one was with the ben Jonsono technically was
his fault where they said, hey, you could kick it
all way through the end zone, or kick it deep
and he kicks it deep into the end zone and
it allows them to run off the clock. Yeah, because
the old rule, if you kick it that deep, usually
the guy would take an eat.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
It's so confusing and that and that's a smart guy, right,
Ben Jons. You know, but dude, it's just they keep
switching it up on players. And again I can understand
it's the responsibility special teams, but this stuff because it's
not just one rule. It's not like always just kicking
off a little further. It's like there's rules to it
now multiple you can do this, you can take that,
you can do that. So make up your mind, NFL,
you confuse the people. Shot door said what we'll tap
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