October 2, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why Travis Kelce's comments ripping AJ Brown for being upset about his touches should be taken to heart, tell us if they’d rather root for a team like the San Diego Padres (who are always competitive but never actually win anything) or the Miami Marlins (who normally stink but win championships every blue moon), and discuss why they had a problem with Justin Fields’ comments about keeping wins and losses in perspective.
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
You guys, know, this big talking point coming out a
Sunday's game and it's been bleeding in all through the
rest of the week, is go to bleed it to
the next Sunday's game. Aj Brown is not happy with
his role in the Eagles offense. He put that passive
aggressive social media post, which he said was not directed
to anybody particular, but as a result, he's been asked
about it. Nick Sirianni's been asked about it. Jalen Hurts
has been asked about it, And up until now, we
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hadn't really heard anybody that either wasn't affiliated with the
Eagles or was like a former retired player as at
chime in on that kind of stuff, because historically you
don't really see current players talk about other teams and
they try not to choose not to the problem is
when you got a podcast like Travis Kelsey and this
is one of the biggest stories of the week, you
got no choice with the weigh in on it. And
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let's just say Travis is not a fan of what
AJ Brown's currently doing.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
They listen, You're four no boss.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Come on, man.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It's frustrating for Aj right now, clearly because he's going
to social media to let everybody know how frustrated he is.
And where I showed my frustration is is when we're
not rolling as an offense. And I think I think
it's frustration, it's the desire to get it fixed.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's also really hard for.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Me to get mad when when we're winning, I think,
I don't I don't find that energy or that that
feeling in me. If we're winning, if we're having success,
if we're putting up points. Of course, we're winning football games.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
And I'm going to say this, h one hundred percent
agree with Travis Kelce Kelvin. I you could be frustrated.
You want to produce more. You're a talented receiver. But
there's a time and the place. You talk about that
all the time, there's a time and a place to
have that conversation. Everything doesn't have to go public, no
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cryptic messages, go in, have a meeting with Jalen Hurts
and the offensive coordinator and Nick Sirianni, right, and just haven,
I what am I not doing? Am I not getting open?
Do I need to run crisp or routes? What am
I not doing? Why aren't we Why don't we have
a connection? You know what I mean? Like, there's a
conversation to be had. But when you do this, especially
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in Travis Kelsey made the point when you're winning, if
you're losing, Kelvin right, and and the offense is sputtering,
yes we're not we're not winning, but I'm not contributing.
I'm a big time player. I want to get involved.
We need to get this thing going in the right direction.
(03:01):
They're still winning, and you sound like a malcontent. You
sound like the only thing that matters to you are
your numbers, and you don't want to be that guy.
There's a time and a place. Most of the time
it should be in private. Every once in a while,
short could you pop off? And you know when you're
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so frustrated and a reporter asked your question, Kelvin and
it triggers you when you say something you probably wish
you didn't say.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Okay, that could happen.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
But to go to social media, you need to take
your time and think about it in order to type
that out.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I like you?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
This is not like a guy asked your question and
you and and it kind of just got away from
you when you realize after you said, oh, I shouldn't
have said it like that, that that sounds selfish. He
comes off as a selfish guy who doesn't care about winning.
And I think Travis kelce Uh to me, is is
spot on.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I got a couple of things for Aj Brown first
and foremost, you know what I was thinking about. This
isn't just a frustration geared towards Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianna
and the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You know what? This is also gear to Rob.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This is also geared towards Tannehill and the Titans. And
I think what we're seeing is an overall frustration from
AJ Brown. I think what he is feeling is I
was supposed to be this top notch Hall of Fame
trajectory receiver, stats, glory awards, glore, and I think he's
realizing you know, as of now he won't individually be
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that per se. But let me break a couple of
things down. Number one, what I don't like, rob I
don't like when people throw the rocks, throw the stones
and hide your hand. Don't think, oh, it wasn't geared
towards till nobody in particular. I'm not reading a book
for the team. I just wanted to get some peace
of my life. Like, dude, you keep having antics after
ANTIQ after antiics.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
We're reading books.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You're calling out Jalen Hurts last season, you're talking about
him this season. Offense can be more explosive after the
game where you had your best game, then you're putting
out cryptic tweaks.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And Davonte Smith was.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Another receiver who won a Heisman, by the way, who's
probably sitting there like, uh, you don't think I want
some more receptions too? You don't think I want more
target suit? You know who we don't hear much from
not saying he doesn't hasn't said anything, But we know
we don't hear much from Davonte Smith, who has been
a heck of a receiver in college, has been obviously
a speecher and a really good receiver of pros. But
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he knows, hey, we're winning, going out doing my job.
This is what I think AJ Brown needs to realize.
I'm gonna give you a trajectory who he could be
if he owns the position he's in.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Michael Irvin. What I mean by that is Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
If you just simply look at his stats, they're good,
they're good. But what he meant to that team the
big plays he made when his team was needed. Some
games they ran the ball more with Emmitt Smith. Some
games they looked at other you know, looked the other way.
And some games it was the defense.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Was bigger than anybody on that team exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But Mike Irvin made big catches, made big plays, and
was a part of a three time championship team.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
A J.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Brown, you can be Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I know your stats aren't gonna be Jerry Rice, Randy Moss,
Calvin Johnson. Like I'm sure you feel your that type
of talent. You're not that good, but I'm sure you
feel that way. And I just believe if he just
locks in, stays focused, have communication with Nick Sirianni and
offensive coordinator privately, have communication with Jalen Hurts privately figure
the thing out, because I will admit, Rob, I don't
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like their offense right now in the sense of just
if we're just singularly talking about their offense points per game,
they are seventh at twenty seven, but after that it
goes downhill. Total offense yards per game thirtieth, passing yards
per game thirty first at one hundred and thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's terrible when you're just looking at it on the surface.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Rushing yards per game, middle of the pack exactly at sixteenth.
So they are struggling, and I do think he knows
I'm a part of the you know that can get
us going. When I'm explosive, when I'm making big players,
we're better. I No one disagrees with that, but it's
how you go about it. Because my last point, Rob,
you know what, if the offense is struggling and they
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haven't found the rhythm and they're not quite clicking, you
know what doesn't help. Friction, distractions, annoyances, grievances. So the
last thing they need while they're trying to get this thing,
Roland is always having to ask questions this guy that
look like this guy offensive line might be mad at
him now they don't want to block the same and
just little small chinks in the armor that can hurt
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the team. So lock in aj Brown, focus and be
the Michael Irving to this team and maybe they'll throw
the ball more or maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
They'll get the offensive rolling.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But you can look up and have three Super Bowl
rings at the end of this thing and still be
a projected Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
You get what I mean, Rob, Absolutely, I just think
there's a time and a place, and I'm not saying
you can't be frustrated, but man, you you won eighteen
in a.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Row and as soon Bowl and it's just like that.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Go to the coaches, go to everybody and have that conversation.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Don't do it publicly.
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just coughed it up. Unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
This is exactly what you were talking about before the
show was it's fourteen to nothing, right, and now the
forty nine ers have the ball.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This is why you don't play around because look, and
I was saying, Mac Jones is a different type of quarterback, right,
brock Perdy is something you've played. You've had a bunch
of experience over the last handful of years, so you
know who he is.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
You game g real quick? Did Mac Jones make the
Pro Bowl second year? He made as a rookie?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Rookie year rookie.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
I was gonna say, I know it was early on
in his career, he made it, remember that.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So yeah, he's listen, he's a real guy. He's a
real player.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And again I was saying, how you're just not prepared
for that. You've been thinking the whole season you're gonna
play against Brock Perdy and what that team will be.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Now, they got a different game plan.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
They look and as much as you want to fire
Kyle Shanahan, he could cook up something if nothing else. Now,
he might get to the Super Bowl and forget how
to run the ball, but he could cook up something.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
To cook a ball offense. So we'll keep an eye
on that score.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Hey, Mac Jones got almost as many Pro Bowls as
Matthew Stafford, which is crazy.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Hello is crazy? Hello and Stafford? I think one of
those was an alternate. Yeah, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Right, That's why I keep telling you there's a handful
of athletes in the last fifteen, twenty five years, you
name the sport where it's gonna be hard to explain
their story because somebody's gonna be like everybody loves Matthew Stafford.
They say he was your favorite quarterback's favorite court But
then on the flip side, you'll say, well he doesn't.
You know, he didn't have the greatest status as far
as I didn't get any MVP vote, only two time pro.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Vote.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Seriously, is he gonna be weird? It's yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And this is coming from a guy who watched the
YouTube ride watch all of this.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
I watched his very first play, you know, throw in
the NFL, like like from day one. And that's why
when people start saying, like people are you know this
or that or or or they're Hall of Famers or
all that, like, they're not really looking at like the.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Totality of all that.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Like like even when Richard Sherman was ripping on Russell Wilson,
you know, all somebody had to say was really, he's
gonna play his way out of Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
He went to the Pro Bowl ten time?
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Tis like you know what I mean, Like, where's where's
that little bit of a pushback that gives you some
perspective on his career, doesn't it?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Like that he went Pro Bowl ten times?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That? And I don't want to do the whole who
would you rather? But I mean it is interesting because
Russ could have played his way out. Matthew Stafford could
be playing his way in because you get the ring lately,
he's been playing well in the postseason over the last
few years, and you know, if they have another postseason
run this year, you know he could do it. It's
interesting who Russell will have probably the better accolades, he's
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had MVP votes, he's a ten time pro bowler. But
I think if you ask one hundred people, probably sixty
five to seventy, he will say, give me Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
That's why it's so weird.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yeah, I'm just not in that camp. And I don't
know because I watched him and I saw all those
bad years and I'm not.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Saying it's all his fault. They didn't have great teams,
but it is what Rober, You're right. I mean, it's
not just you.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's a lot of people where when you watch a
guy on a night in, night out basis versus when
you only catch him sporadically high lights.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You see the low lights too.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And the perfect example I don't want to switch gears
too much though, is Russell Westbrook. When Russell Westbrook Oklahoma
City doing the triple doubles, all you heard about was
the triple doubles.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
And you know what, I agree. When I watched him
every night in that day, I was like.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh my god, god, dude, stuff, Hey, look I love
some Russ but that man was hitting the side of
the backboard in it what he was getting caught on
defense looking the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Guy will go back door.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And that's a great point, rob Gee, it's the only
one you've made in the last two but whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
But he's right.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
When you watch somebody every day, you see all the flaws.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You see.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I would have my boy shout out to my boy Derek.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He would call me back from Detroit and everybody hate
no Russ.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I said, hey, man, you know I was a Russ
fan like you, and I still am. But I said,
I watch him every night when he was with the Lakers,
and I said, dude, you don't understand how bad he's playing.
This isn't a media made up thing. This isn't a
I'll watch the game. I'm like, bro, I watch him
night and night out. He's sleeping on defense, He's running
into people, drawing charges. He's literally hitting the side of
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the backboard and nothing else regularly. Everybody does this. It's
a fourth shot at the butt and you know the
shot clock. No, he's hitting the backboard right. I'm like, dude,
he's missing easy layups and dunks. I was like, Bro,
he's throwing weird no look passes when he doesn't need to.
I was like, Bro, Russ is looking bad out here
in these la streets, you know, so it does.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's a great point, robb Gi. When you get to watch.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
All for one or the other, either he's so much
better than you think or he's like, oh no, he's
got some issues.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's one and Russ was one of those like, ooh yeah,
this is and bad little run right now.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Speaking of guys who are on a bad little run
right now, the New York Getropolitans are owing four on
the season. And I don't know if you guys remember
this that we had.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
It earlier in the week.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But Justin Field, their quarterback, their new franchise guy, the
guy that they jettisoned, Aaron rodgers Ford. They can give
him the big, big, big, big big bag in his career.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This is a fun stat.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Uh, Justin Fields is oh and twenty five when his
opponents score at least twenty one points. He's the only
winless quarterback out of forty six quarterback in the sample
size over.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
That's that's unbelievable. This is a crazy kelman. You gotta
admit that. That's a all You.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Ain't gotta ask me that, mane. That's horrendous. Yeah, so
come on, bro, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's all bad in New York right now. But even still,
even with all that's gone wrong, Justin Fields is maintaining
a positive attitude. He's still smiling at the podium, and
when asked how he's able to stay upbeat, he raising
my brows with his answer, Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
I mean, we're blessed at the end of the day.
You look at the bigger picture in life. You know,
we're getting a paid well to play on child sports,
So I think that's one you know, Just like I said,
just looking at the bigger picture. No matter what everybody
goes to at least this is my mindset. No matter
what I got through in his game, I'm always gonna
keep a positive mindset just because I know how blessed
I am.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I'm sorry, Kelvin. I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
And I get it, Yes, we all in that situation,
you know what I mean, Like you got to be
at the family and the health and the kids. I
get all that, But I want to hear my quarterback
pissed off that they're owing for and that the offense
has stalled since week one and I'm not playing up
to par.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And this is not what we signed up for.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
And Aaron, Glenn and I have weapons, and this is frustrating.
We're gonna turn this around. I don't want to hear life.
I'm playing a game, a kid's game, for a lot
of money, and you know, at the end of the day,
is just a game and it don't really really matter
in the grand scheme of life. That's not what I
want to hear. It's not what I want to hear.
I don't we all know that it's sports and it's
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a distraction from real world things. That's a given. You
don't have to tell me that what's more important health
or or your or your your percentage of third down convergence,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Like, I get that, But to sit up.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
There and not show me that you're angry or concerned
or have a sense of urgency or talking about trying
to be better and figuring it out.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
That's all I want to hear from a quarterback, not
that I'm.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Getting paid well and this is a kid's game and
at the end of the day, this none of this
really matters.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Because that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So let me tell you something that's never gonna go well.
With the general population. When you're a millionaire talking about
paid paid to play a kid's game. He's right in theory,
but it will never Nobody wants to hear that when
our economy is going through it price of eggs and
milk is crazy. Have you been a chick filate lately?
A single person's meal is now like sixteen seventeen dollars.
I looked in the back seat, that are my kids
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with me? It's just me, and the girl looked at me.
You know, I'm gonna tell your true story, ribs, both
of y'all. Other day, I'm in CBS going to get
some deodorant. I had to hit the button because it
all locked up like it's in prison that I didn't know
theodorant be in prison.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And the lady yeah, right, And the lady comes and
I say.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Man, it's really like that that you gotta lock up
this life. She said yeah, And she says to me,
the prize as expensive as deodorant is.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't blame people for stealing. That's a worker. She's saying,
how hard it is?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
All right, So when you say we get paid to play,
nobody wants to hear that. Justin fields now, here's my
other thing that I would recommend to justin Fields. The
other thing is this we know in the grand scheme
of things, he's right right. We're all blessed to be alive,
bless to have our family, but blessed have a radio show.
It'd be blessed to have a radio show. But here's
my thing. You know my phrase, Rob, there's a time
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and a place for everything being oing. For not looking great,
you ain't playing great. That ain't the time to necessarily
say that. Especially I'm gonna jump back a few weeks
ago when Josh Allen said it, and I wasn't as
mad as Josh Allen saying it as you were, because
Josh Allen the context of that question was when you're
gonna win the big one?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
When he win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
At least he's in position to compete for a championship.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
At least he's winning, he's an MVP. Nobody in Buffalo
questions his leadership. Is he laying it all out there?
Blush win tears. Nobody in Buffalo he is the Buffalo Bills.
Justin Fields, people question it, should you even be on
the field. People are questioning, should you even be a
Jet should you even have got that contract? So this
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is not the time to do it on a podcast
talking about your book. I understand if you will get
reflective on life, I'm with it, but right now you
got to say, hey, man, look, we got a bunker
down and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
It ain't the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We're gonna find a way to win. We still got,
you know what, thirteen games left. We're gonna figure this
thing out. That's what I want to hear, because again,
you don't have the equity and the report to say that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
With the Jets, you get what I.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Mean, Like Jared Goff can say that because he's now
put in five six years whatever it's been now five.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Years or so.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
With the Lions, they've been there, they got to the
you know, championship, NFC Chimp. You're not that right now,
justin fields. So that's why the fans, you can't bring
up money and you can't only be four weeks able
the team and looking horrible talk about at the end
of the day that you can't do that.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I just people don't want to hear that. And I'm
not saying you gotta go.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Oh, I'm sleeping here and watching film twenty four hours
a day, or you know what I mean, some fake.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Story to make it like you are like it like
you're gonna die.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
But but that whole conversation about being blessed about everything else,
that's just not what I want to hear, especially coming
from you know. Uh, people were optimistic, would you say,
right after the first game and you realize the stealer
shit fence were s uh and it's gotten better, but
at that point and now, uh, they played like one
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of the worst teams in Miami and they look terrible
in that game coming off of that.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You can't you're not pissed.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, you gotta know when I know again, you can say, look, man,
it's you know, life is good outside of football. Right now,
I'm a football off life. We got to figure this
thing out. My team, we gotta.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Figure you know. You can go that like, bring it
back to We're on our way to getting this thing right.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You can even say, Choopy, he can even say, look,
we've been competitive in a couple of these games. We
probably felt like we feel we should have won them,
but we're back to the drawing board.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
We're gonna get da da da da.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He could he could definitely say that you have not
ingratiated your your your time with the Jets, with the
fan base, your yourself with him, yet enough to say
these types of things. You get what I mean. They
don't know you like that. They don't want to hear
that from you. There are certain guys that can say
that they've been Lamar Jackson could say that.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Patrick Mahomes could say that, you know, and you don't
say that.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Jet fans are like, Okay, every time we get somebody,
it doesn't work out. Seriously, when we had Aaron Rodgers,
he had four snaps and then he didn't play, you
know great. Now he's in Pittsburgh and they're three and
one like like, and now we got to do a
guy from Pittsburgh and he's talking about how great his
life is, uh and we're.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Owing four like that that. I don't think anybody is
signing up for that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
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Speaker 4 (21:12):
Do those nerves elimination game? Those nerves get to go?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
What do we just what did we just talk about
about getting those final three outs and how hard it is.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
He's out, he's out of the game.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Yeah, And the Padres git a home run on the
top of the ninth, three to one, and now they
have the the tying runs on base. You're double away
from tying the game and a three run hole one away. Yes,
they're in this.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, this is why we like playoff. This is why
we love playoffs in generating sport. But this is why
we love playoff baseball Baseball.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Every pitch matters, everything matters. It's not over. I know,
it's cliches. Not over till it's over.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's why I was telling you in the seventh inning,
and I'm trying to do you might be right with you.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I know, I was like, but you might be right.
I'm I was hoping I was right. But it doesn't
look like that all right here. But here's the question.
And Rob G jump up, jump in on this because
we talk about it all the time, and Kelvin, you're
big on this about being relevant. But Rob G, when
we talk about teams like the Padres and maybe the
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Marlins set the table for us.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Please, well, you know the reason why rob is so
invested in this game right now, what's happening currently in
this Chicago Padres and.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
We should pull the curtain back.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Rob G producers inside the Parker for the last six
years or whatever it's been, and for the.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Last five of them, Robins picks the Padres to make
the world serious. So if there's anybody outside of San
Diego that's for the Padres tonight, it's none other than
Robert Lee Parker Junior.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And we're obviously we keeping out of this game. But
one conversation that's come out, especially when it comes to
a team like the Padres, and we see across the
other ports as well, is would you rather be a
team like these Padres?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
That's always right there.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean rob is picking them to make the World
Series every year, not because he's going out on the limb,
he's trying to make a hot take.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Because they got players right, the talent, they.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Got a roster, they got everything you would look for,
everything you'd think you would need hypothetically to win big
in the postseason, and they just can't seem to get
it done.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Every year. They're close, but they can't quite. They had
the Dodgers last year, right.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
They cannot break through the glass ceiling. On the flip side,
you got teams like the Miami Marlins, who are a
laughingstock ninety five percent of my adult life. They also
got two World Series champions that's right, from ninety seven
two thousand and three, and the Padres last night check
have zero. So if you are a sports fan, or
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in this case, a baseball fan, would you rather be
rooting for a team like these Padres who are close,
close with even right now, they're close, they're right there?
Can they get over the hump who never actually break through?
Or you're rooting for a team like the Marlins, who
most of the time are gonna give you nothing to
cheer about, but once every fifteen to twenty years might
win the big thing.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I'm gonna tell you right now. I know, Kelvin, you're
big on being relevant. I'm big on winning a championship
like the Kansas City Royals. They won a World Series
in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I take that.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
If I'm a Royals fan, I got my moment. I'm
not expecting them to win every two years. It doesn't
work like that. That's not what I'm looking for. I
want my team to be able to be good. I
want to have a magical season that I can remember.
The Mets have not won a World Series since nineteen
eighty six. Do I remember nineteen eighty six? Back then,
I was just turning into being a professional right sportswriter,
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and it was magical. And I'll hold on to that
for my whole life. And that's the point that I'm
trying to make, is that you would rather your team
win a championship than to always be good or always
be in the mix so you always feel like they
have a shot. I'll take one championship and nine bad years.
(25:02):
I would I take nine bad years for one championship
compared to being relevant all ten years but never winning,
because it is about winning and ultimately, you want to win,
and you're not gonna win every year.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Like the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Finally won, right, those fans, Okay, they haven't won in
two years. Those fans don't feel like, oh my god,
what happened? We only won that one time? No, you
take that, because there's the Utah Jazz who have never won.
We just mentioned the Padres who have never won. The
Tigers haven't won since nineteen eighty four. Like there's so
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many teams. The Mets haven't won since nineteen eighty six.
The Dodgers took thirty some odd years before they broke through.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You remember they had won it since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Yeah, Like, I could go on and on and on,
and then some of these bad teams that we ridicule,
they've won more recently. Right, the Yankees ever watched this
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Right, the Rangers had never won. They won. I could
go on and on and on about these teams.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, so here's here's you know what I wish we
could go back two days. You know why because I
would go to trash talking Tuesday. You know who I
would trash right now? I would trash rob G.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Rob G.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I want to trash you because the reason I want
to trash you is because you brought up the trash Marlins.
Shout out to my man, Dontrea Willis, that's my guy
in all but Dagget. The reason I brought this up
is because there's one thing to be we just haven't won,
but we're competing in a long time. And then there's
I don't even know if this team want to have
a baseball.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Andres lost Cubs just survived, they win, they popped up.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, he was swinging for the fence. You know you
saw that on the first pick.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I mean, I don't blame him.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Look at the manager, the stoics like a stone face,
like another year with the Padres because you have Bundt
there maybe and no, no, it's hours.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
But hey, it's the perfect time for this conversation. But
back to what I was saying, Rob G, can you
can you you see the shirt I have on right now?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I have on a bad boy Piston shirt.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And the reason why I think that would have been
relevant is because I would prefer it to be like,
how the Pistons do you covered?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
And Rob they in the late eighties they were great, won.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
A couple eighty nine, ninety, fell off for fifteen years,
bounced back in one in two thousand and four, fell
off for a while again. Now they're popping back up.
Good you use the Marlins, Rob G. The Marlins don't
just they're not just bad. When they don't win that
you don't even know they exist. You don't even know
that they have an ownership who wants to actually have
a baseball team. So Daggett, for my case, it's hard
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to go with the Padres bad bro my bad, yeah,
because the Marlins sucks so bad as an organization as
a whole.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But I have to agree with Robin this one.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Like I said, I prefer it to be more like
a Piston style but winning or maybe even the New
York Giants, the Football.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Giants, same thing right there. They are bad, a lot
of bad. Yeah, they got four championships.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
The reason why is because I got to be a
kid in the when the you know, for using the
Pistons for example, that was amazing to see them win.
Then I went through some lean years and Gray Hill.
You know, they were solid, but they weren't great. And
in that twenty four team, I just got into business
and that whole little run was just an amazing run
for a four or five year stretch to be a
part of. They obviously got one, they went to another one,
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so I have to agree. Unfortunately, you do want to
be the Marlins in this instance a terrible team, but
because winning ultimately you have that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
To last for your rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You can always tell your kids, your grandkids, boy that
time we won. In ninety seven, boy that time and
O three when we won oh, let me tell you
the city was on fire.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I listened to Dontrell Willis.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I sit next to him when I do Dodgers, and
he just tells the stories of what it was like
being with that manus, being in Miami during that time,
you know, those couple of years where they were good
and relevant. He just talks about it. So ultimately, you
as a fan, you as a player, you want to
be in that city, that environment when they win. So
that is the answer. But you picked the terrible I
mean the Marlins.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
No, but the Marlins are an example of that.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
As bad as they've been, they've been on both spectrums.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
But they what team are you laughing at?
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Has won two World Series since ninety seven, right in
the last twenty five years, you'd be hard pressed to
name the Tigers had Verlander, David Price, Suzer, Miguel Cabrera,
maglio'or Joniaz.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You beat me like.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
All these guys and they got pard They got nothing,
they got nothing, nothing to show for it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
They got to they got to a couple of World
series that got.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Their right, I mean they did, but you get my point,
and then you got like, the Marlins won two World Series?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Can the Marlins find a less low floor. My gosh,
it's either we won a World Series or we might
as well be dis evolved from the Major League Baseball.
Can they find a you know, we're notadium somewhere happy media,
you know, maybe with the Angels at times.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Gading back to the Padres, you just mentioned all those
great players that played for the Tigers, and if you
really look back on it, it's incredible how many great
players they.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Have the team.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Do you think ten years from now, like you say
you did with the Tigers, ten years from now, we're
doing the same thing with the Padres. They has Easton,
Machado and Darvish and all.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
You think they're gonna have a so.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Even worked out Jackson Merrill, a up and coming rookie.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
You know what I meant. Could they be like the
Tigers of this decade?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
That's absolutely rob g Absolutely could be because they have
nothing but star power. And we talked about it, great ballpark,
great fans, Kelvin. They were in a situation it's not
too many teams where there's no football, there's no basketball,
there's nothing. They they are everything to the right. They
(30:53):
have the city to themselves.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
The only thing I would challenge that is when you
brought up the Tigers again, rob G, is at least
they got to the World Series and the Padres, you know,
the boogeyman is the Dodgers. For them, the boogeyman is
you know, whether it be the NLCS. Like, they just
can't get past that, And I think that makes it
worse because again, at least the Tigers, if you want
to play that game, can say, well, dagge, we at
least tasted the World Series, the city was lit. You know,
(31:18):
we got there a couple of times in a handful
of years. The Padres just can't even seem to do that.
And they've been an advantageous situations where you think this
is the year, it ends up falling short. So I
don't even know if they have that, you know that
to at least put in.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Their back pocket.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah that's true, but it's talent wise.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
You want to say that, Yeah, like you're gonna.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Look at it and say that they couldn't even get there,
like like that's the part that's so crazy that that
they just can't seem.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
To get over the hump. I really thought I picked them,
Rob G knows.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
I liked the team going for every year for year
six's Yankees World Series.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I know I said it two years ago, but this
time it counts.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
No, I don't know about that next show.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
No, hey, rob Zie, we'll give him. He got about
what six seven, eight months.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He'll pounds back and they be like, you know what,
they'll make one nice little signing something.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Right, The Dodgers are going to acquire Bryce Harper in
the office.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He'll still be like the the Padres.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
They got just as much up and Doce.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Harper, you're calling it now.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Bryce Harper's wash won't even be an all star Padres
in the World Series.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
What you guys imitating? Does I sound like that?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (32:31):
You do. Yes,
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
You guys, know, this big talking point coming out a
Sunday's game and it's been bleeding in all through the
rest of the week, is go to bleed it to
the next Sunday's game. Aj Brown is not happy with
his role in the Eagles offense. He put that passive
aggressive social media post, which he said was not directed
to anybody particular, but as a result, he's been asked
about it. Nick Sirianni's been asked about it. Jalen Hurts
has been asked about it, And up until now, we
(00:46):
hadn't really heard anybody that either wasn't affiliated with the
Eagles or was like a former retired player as at
chime in on that kind of stuff, because historically you
don't really see current players talk about other teams and
they try not to choose not to the problem is
when you got a podcast like Travis Kelsey and this
is one of the biggest stories of the week, you
got no choice with the weigh in on it. And
(01:08):
let's just say Travis is not a fan of what
AJ Brown's currently doing.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
They listen, You're four no boss.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Come on, man.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It's frustrating for Aj right now, clearly because he's going
to social media to let everybody know how frustrated he is.
And where I showed my frustration is is when we're
not rolling as an offense. And I think I think
it's frustration, it's the desire to get it fixed.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's also really hard for.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Me to get mad when when we're winning, I think,
I don't I don't find that energy or that that
feeling in me. If we're winning, if we're having success,
if we're putting up points. Of course, we're winning football games.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
And I'm going to say this, h one hundred percent
agree with Travis Kelce Kelvin. I you could be frustrated.
You want to produce more. You're a talented receiver. But
there's a time and the place. You talk about that
all the time, there's a time and a place to
have that conversation. Everything doesn't have to go public, no
(02:12):
cryptic messages, go in, have a meeting with Jalen Hurts
and the offensive coordinator and Nick Sirianni, right, and just haven,
I what am I not doing? Am I not getting open?
Do I need to run crisp or routes? What am
I not doing? Why aren't we Why don't we have
a connection? You know what I mean? Like, there's a
conversation to be had. But when you do this, especially
(02:36):
in Travis Kelsey made the point when you're winning, if
you're losing, Kelvin right, and and the offense is sputtering,
yes we're not we're not winning, but I'm not contributing.
I'm a big time player. I want to get involved.
We need to get this thing going in the right direction.
(03:01):
They're still winning, and you sound like a malcontent. You
sound like the only thing that matters to you are
your numbers, and you don't want to be that guy.
There's a time and a place. Most of the time
it should be in private. Every once in a while,
short could you pop off? And you know when you're
(03:21):
so frustrated and a reporter asked your question, Kelvin and
it triggers you when you say something you probably wish
you didn't say.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Okay, that could happen.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
But to go to social media, you need to take
your time and think about it in order to type
that out.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I like you?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
This is not like a guy asked your question and
you and and it kind of just got away from
you when you realize after you said, oh, I shouldn't
have said it like that, that that sounds selfish. He
comes off as a selfish guy who doesn't care about winning.
And I think Travis kelce Uh to me, is is
spot on.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I got a couple of things for Aj Brown first
and foremost, you know what I was thinking about. This
isn't just a frustration geared towards Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianna
and the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You know what? This is also gear to Rob.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This is also geared towards Tannehill and the Titans. And
I think what we're seeing is an overall frustration from
AJ Brown. I think what he is feeling is I
was supposed to be this top notch Hall of Fame
trajectory receiver, stats, glory awards, glore, and I think he's
realizing you know, as of now he won't individually be
(04:35):
that per se. But let me break a couple of
things down. Number one, what I don't like, rob I
don't like when people throw the rocks, throw the stones
and hide your hand. Don't think, oh, it wasn't geared
towards till nobody in particular. I'm not reading a book
for the team. I just wanted to get some peace
of my life. Like, dude, you keep having antics after
ANTIQ after antiics.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
We're reading books.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You're calling out Jalen Hurts last season, you're talking about
him this season. Offense can be more explosive after the
game where you had your best game, then you're putting
out cryptic tweaks.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And Davonte Smith was.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Another receiver who won a Heisman, by the way, who's
probably sitting there like, uh, you don't think I want
some more receptions too? You don't think I want more
target suit? You know who we don't hear much from
not saying he doesn't hasn't said anything, But we know
we don't hear much from Davonte Smith, who has been
a heck of a receiver in college, has been obviously
a speecher and a really good receiver of pros. But
(05:28):
he knows, hey, we're winning, going out doing my job.
This is what I think AJ Brown needs to realize.
I'm gonna give you a trajectory who he could be
if he owns the position he's in.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Michael Irvin. What I mean by that is Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
If you just simply look at his stats, they're good,
they're good. But what he meant to that team the
big plays he made when his team was needed. Some
games they ran the ball more with Emmitt Smith. Some
games they looked at other you know, looked the other way.
And some games it was the defense.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Was bigger than anybody on that team exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But Mike Irvin made big catches, made big plays, and
was a part of a three time championship team.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
A J.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Brown, you can be Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I know your stats aren't gonna be Jerry Rice, Randy Moss,
Calvin Johnson. Like I'm sure you feel your that type
of talent. You're not that good, but I'm sure you
feel that way. And I just believe if he just
locks in, stays focused, have communication with Nick Sirianni and
offensive coordinator privately, have communication with Jalen Hurts privately figure
the thing out, because I will admit, Rob, I don't
(06:36):
like their offense right now in the sense of just
if we're just singularly talking about their offense points per game,
they are seventh at twenty seven, but after that it
goes downhill. Total offense yards per game thirtieth, passing yards
per game thirty first at one hundred and thirty eight.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's terrible when you're just looking at it on the surface.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Rushing yards per game, middle of the pack exactly at sixteenth.
So they are struggling, and I do think he knows
I'm a part of the you know that can get
us going. When I'm explosive, when I'm making big players,
we're better. I No one disagrees with that, but it's
how you go about it. Because my last point, Rob,
you know what, if the offense is struggling and they
(07:14):
haven't found the rhythm and they're not quite clicking, you
know what doesn't help. Friction, distractions, annoyances, grievances. So the
last thing they need while they're trying to get this thing,
Roland is always having to ask questions this guy that
look like this guy offensive line might be mad at
him now they don't want to block the same and
just little small chinks in the armor that can hurt
(07:35):
the team. So lock in aj Brown, focus and be
the Michael Irving to this team and maybe they'll throw
the ball more or maybe.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
They'll get the offensive rolling.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
But you can look up and have three Super Bowl
rings at the end of this thing and still be
a projected Hall of Famer.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
You get what I mean, Rob, Absolutely, I just think
there's a time and a place, and I'm not saying
you can't be frustrated, but man, you you won eighteen
in a.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Row and as soon Bowl and it's just like that.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
Go to the coaches, go to everybody and have that conversation.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Don't do it publicly.
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just coughed it up. Unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
This is exactly what you were talking about before the
show was it's fourteen to nothing, right, and now the
forty nine ers have the ball.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This is why you don't play around because look, and
I was saying, Mac Jones is a different type of quarterback, right,
brock Perdy is something you've played. You've had a bunch
of experience over the last handful of years, so you
know who he is.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
You game g real quick? Did Mac Jones make the
Pro Bowl second year? He made as a rookie?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Rookie year rookie.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
I was gonna say, I know it was early on
in his career, he made it, remember that.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So yeah, he's listen, he's a real guy. He's a
real player.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And again I was saying, how you're just not prepared
for that. You've been thinking the whole season you're gonna
play against Brock Perdy and what that team will be.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Now, they got a different game plan.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
They look and as much as you want to fire
Kyle Shanahan, he could cook up something if nothing else. Now,
he might get to the Super Bowl and forget how
to run the ball, but he could cook up something.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
To cook a ball offense. So we'll keep an eye
on that score.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Hey, Mac Jones got almost as many Pro Bowls as
Matthew Stafford, which is crazy.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Hello is crazy? Hello and Stafford? I think one of
those was an alternate. Yeah, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Right, That's why I keep telling you there's a handful
of athletes in the last fifteen, twenty five years, you
name the sport where it's gonna be hard to explain
their story because somebody's gonna be like everybody loves Matthew Stafford.
They say he was your favorite quarterback's favorite court But
then on the flip side, you'll say, well he doesn't.
You know, he didn't have the greatest status as far
as I didn't get any MVP vote, only two time pro.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Vote.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Seriously, is he gonna be weird? It's yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And this is coming from a guy who watched the
YouTube ride watch all of this.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
I watched his very first play, you know, throw in
the NFL, like like from day one. And that's why
when people start saying, like people are you know this
or that or or or they're Hall of Famers or
all that, like, they're not really looking at like the.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Totality of all that.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Like like even when Richard Sherman was ripping on Russell Wilson,
you know, all somebody had to say was really, he's
gonna play his way out of Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
He went to the Pro Bowl ten time?
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Tis like you know what I mean, Like, where's where's
that little bit of a pushback that gives you some
perspective on his career, doesn't it?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Like that he went Pro Bowl ten times?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That? And I don't want to do the whole who
would you rather? But I mean it is interesting because
Russ could have played his way out. Matthew Stafford could
be playing his way in because you get the ring lately,
he's been playing well in the postseason over the last
few years, and you know, if they have another postseason
run this year, you know he could do it. It's
interesting who Russell will have probably the better accolades, he's
(11:32):
had MVP votes, he's a ten time pro bowler. But
I think if you ask one hundred people, probably sixty
five to seventy, he will say, give me Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
That's why it's so weird.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yeah, I'm just not in that camp. And I don't
know because I watched him and I saw all those
bad years and I'm not.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Saying it's all his fault. They didn't have great teams,
but it is what Rober, You're right. I mean, it's
not just you.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's a lot of people where when you watch a
guy on a night in, night out basis versus when
you only catch him sporadically high lights.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You see the low lights too.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And the perfect example I don't want to switch gears
too much though, is Russell Westbrook. When Russell Westbrook Oklahoma
City doing the triple doubles, all you heard about was
the triple doubles.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
And you know what, I agree. When I watched him
every night in that day, I was like.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh my god, god, dude, stuff, Hey, look I love
some Russ but that man was hitting the side of
the backboard in it what he was getting caught on
defense looking the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Guy will go back door.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And that's a great point, rob Gee, it's the only
one you've made in the last two but whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
But he's right.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
When you watch somebody every day, you see all the flaws.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You see.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I would have my boy shout out to my boy Derek.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He would call me back from Detroit and everybody hate
no Russ.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I said, hey, man, you know I was a Russ
fan like you, and I still am. But I said,
I watch him every night when he was with the Lakers,
and I said, dude, you don't understand how bad he's playing.
This isn't a media made up thing. This isn't a
I'll watch the game. I'm like, bro, I watch him
night and night out. He's sleeping on defense, He's running
into people, drawing charges. He's literally hitting the side of
(13:13):
the backboard and nothing else regularly. Everybody does this. It's
a fourth shot at the butt and you know the
shot clock. No, he's hitting the backboard right. I'm like, dude,
he's missing easy layups and dunks. I was like, Bro,
he's throwing weird no look passes when he doesn't need to.
I was like, Bro, Russ is looking bad out here
in these la streets, you know, so it does.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's a great point, robb Gi. When you get to watch.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
All for one or the other, either he's so much
better than you think or he's like, oh no, he's
got some issues.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It's one and Russ was one of those like, ooh yeah,
this is and bad little run right now.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Speaking of guys who are on a bad little run
right now, the New York Getropolitans are owing four on
the season. And I don't know if you guys remember
this that we had.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
It earlier in the week.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But Justin Field, their quarterback, their new franchise guy, the
guy that they jettisoned, Aaron rodgers Ford. They can give
him the big, big, big, big big bag in his career.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This is a fun stat.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Uh, Justin Fields is oh and twenty five when his
opponents score at least twenty one points. He's the only
winless quarterback out of forty six quarterback in the sample
size over.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
That's that's unbelievable. This is a crazy kelman. You gotta
admit that. That's a all You.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Ain't gotta ask me that, mane. That's horrendous. Yeah, so
come on, bro, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's all bad in New York right now. But even still,
even with all that's gone wrong, Justin Fields is maintaining
a positive attitude. He's still smiling at the podium, and
when asked how he's able to stay upbeat, he raising
my brows with his answer, Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
I mean, we're blessed at the end of the day.
You look at the bigger picture in life. You know,
we're getting a paid well to play on child sports,
So I think that's one you know, Just like I said,
just looking at the bigger picture. No matter what everybody
goes to at least this is my mindset. No matter
what I got through in his game, I'm always gonna
keep a positive mindset just because I know how blessed
I am.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I'm sorry, Kelvin. I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
And I get it, Yes, we all in that situation,
you know what I mean, Like you got to be
at the family and the health and the kids. I
get all that, But I want to hear my quarterback
pissed off that they're owing for and that the offense
has stalled since week one and I'm not playing up
to par.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And this is not what we signed up for.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
And Aaron, Glenn and I have weapons, and this is frustrating.
We're gonna turn this around. I don't want to hear life.
I'm playing a game, a kid's game, for a lot
of money, and you know, at the end of the day,
is just a game and it don't really really matter
in the grand scheme of life. That's not what I
want to hear. It's not what I want to hear.
I don't we all know that it's sports and it's
(15:49):
a distraction from real world things. That's a given. You
don't have to tell me that what's more important health
or or your or your your percentage of third down convergence,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Like, I get that, But to sit up.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
There and not show me that you're angry or concerned
or have a sense of urgency or talking about trying
to be better and figuring it out.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
That's all I want to hear from a quarterback, not
that I'm.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Getting paid well and this is a kid's game and
at the end of the day, this none of this
really matters.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Because that's what he said.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
So let me tell you something that's never gonna go well.
With the general population. When you're a millionaire talking about
paid paid to play a kid's game. He's right in theory,
but it will never Nobody wants to hear that when
our economy is going through it price of eggs and
milk is crazy. Have you been a chick filate lately?
A single person's meal is now like sixteen seventeen dollars.
I looked in the back seat, that are my kids
(16:49):
with me? It's just me, and the girl looked at me.
You know, I'm gonna tell your true story, ribs, both
of y'all. Other day, I'm in CBS going to get
some deodorant. I had to hit the button because it
all locked up like it's in prison that I didn't know
theodorant be in prison.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And the lady yeah, right, And the lady comes and
I say.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Man, it's really like that that you gotta lock up
this life. She said yeah, And she says to me,
the prize as expensive as deodorant is.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't blame people for stealing. That's a worker. She's saying,
how hard it is?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
All right, So when you say we get paid to play,
nobody wants to hear that. Justin fields now, here's my
other thing that I would recommend to justin Fields. The
other thing is this we know in the grand scheme
of things, he's right right. We're all blessed to be alive,
bless to have our family, but blessed have a radio show.
It'd be blessed to have a radio show. But here's
my thing. You know my phrase, Rob, there's a time
(17:39):
and a place for everything being oing. For not looking great,
you ain't playing great. That ain't the time to necessarily
say that. Especially I'm gonna jump back a few weeks
ago when Josh Allen said it, and I wasn't as
mad as Josh Allen saying it as you were, because
Josh Allen the context of that question was when you're
gonna win the big one?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
When he win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
At least he's in position to compete for a championship.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
At least he's winning, he's an MVP. Nobody in Buffalo
questions his leadership. Is he laying it all out there?
Blush win tears. Nobody in Buffalo he is the Buffalo Bills.
Justin Fields, people question it, should you even be on
the field. People are questioning, should you even be a
Jet should you even have got that contract? So this
(18:24):
is not the time to do it on a podcast
talking about your book. I understand if you will get
reflective on life, I'm with it, but right now you
got to say, hey, man, look, we got a bunker
down and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
It ain't the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We're gonna find a way to win. We still got,
you know what, thirteen games left. We're gonna figure this
thing out. That's what I want to hear, because again,
you don't have the equity and the report to say that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
With the Jets, you get what I.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Mean, Like Jared Goff can say that because he's now
put in five six years whatever it's been now five.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Years or so.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
With the Lions, they've been there, they got to the
you know, championship, NFC Chimp. You're not that right now,
justin fields. So that's why the fans, you can't bring
up money and you can't only be four weeks able
the team and looking horrible talk about at the end
of the day that you can't do that.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I just people don't want to hear that. And I'm
not saying you gotta go.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Oh, I'm sleeping here and watching film twenty four hours
a day, or you know what I mean, some fake.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Story to make it like you are like it like
you're gonna die.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
But but that whole conversation about being blessed about everything else,
that's just not what I want to hear, especially coming
from you know. Uh, people were optimistic, would you say,
right after the first game and you realize the stealer
shit fence were s uh and it's gotten better, but
at that point and now, uh, they played like one
(19:47):
of the worst teams in Miami and they look terrible
in that game coming off of that.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
You can't you're not pissed.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, you gotta know when I know again, you can say, look, man,
it's you know, life is good outside of football. Right now,
I'm a football off life. We got to figure this
thing out. My team, we gotta.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Figure you know. You can go that like, bring it
back to We're on our way to getting this thing right.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You can even say, Choopy, he can even say, look,
we've been competitive in a couple of these games. We
probably felt like we feel we should have won them,
but we're back to the drawing board.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
We're gonna get da da da da.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He could he could definitely say that you have not
ingratiated your your your time with the Jets, with the
fan base, your yourself with him, yet enough to say
these types of things. You get what I mean. They
don't know you like that. They don't want to hear
that from you. There are certain guys that can say
that they've been Lamar Jackson could say that.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Patrick Mahomes could say that, you know, and you don't
say that.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Jet fans are like, Okay, every time we get somebody,
it doesn't work out. Seriously, when we had Aaron Rodgers,
he had four snaps and then he didn't play, you
know great. Now he's in Pittsburgh and they're three and
one like like, and now we got to do a
guy from Pittsburgh and he's talking about how great his
life is, uh and we're.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Owing four like that that. I don't think anybody is
signing up for that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
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Speaker 4 (21:12):
Do those nerves elimination game? Those nerves get to go?
Speaker 7 (21:15):
What do we just what did we just talk about
about getting those final three outs and how hard it is.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
He's out, he's out of the game.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Yeah, And the Padres git a home run on the
top of the ninth, three to one, and now they
have the the tying runs on base. You're double away
from tying the game and a three run hole one away. Yes,
they're in this.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, this is why we like playoff. This is why
we love playoffs in generating sport. But this is why
we love playoff baseball Baseball.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
Every pitch matters, everything matters. It's not over. I know,
it's cliches. Not over till it's over.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's why I was telling you in the seventh inning,
and I'm trying to do you might be right with you.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I know, I was like, but you might be right.
I'm I was hoping I was right. But it doesn't
look like that all right here. But here's the question.
And Rob G jump up, jump in on this because
we talk about it all the time, and Kelvin, you're
big on this about being relevant. But Rob G, when
we talk about teams like the Padres and maybe the
(22:12):
Marlins set the table for us.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Please, well, you know the reason why rob is so
invested in this game right now, what's happening currently in
this Chicago Padres and.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
We should pull the curtain back.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Rob G producers inside the Parker for the last six
years or whatever it's been, and for the.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Last five of them, Robins picks the Padres to make
the world serious. So if there's anybody outside of San
Diego that's for the Padres tonight, it's none other than
Robert Lee Parker Junior.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And we're obviously we keeping out of this game. But
one conversation that's come out, especially when it comes to
a team like the Padres, and we see across the
other ports as well, is would you rather be a
team like these Padres?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
That's always right there.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean rob is picking them to make the World
Series every year, not because he's going out on the limb,
he's trying to make a hot take.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Because they got players right, the talent, they.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Got a roster, they got everything you would look for,
everything you'd think you would need hypothetically to win big
in the postseason, and they just can't seem to get
it done.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Every year. They're close, but they can't quite. They had
the Dodgers last year, right.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
They cannot break through the glass ceiling. On the flip side,
you got teams like the Miami Marlins, who are a
laughingstock ninety five percent of my adult life. They also
got two World Series champions that's right, from ninety seven
two thousand and three, and the Padres last night check
have zero. So if you are a sports fan, or
(23:38):
in this case, a baseball fan, would you rather be
rooting for a team like these Padres who are close,
close with even right now, they're close, they're right there?
Can they get over the hump who never actually break through?
Or you're rooting for a team like the Marlins, who
most of the time are gonna give you nothing to
cheer about, but once every fifteen to twenty years might
win the big thing.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I'm gonna tell you right now. I know, Kelvin, you're
big on being relevant. I'm big on winning a championship
like the Kansas City Royals. They won a World Series
in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I take that.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
If I'm a Royals fan, I got my moment. I'm
not expecting them to win every two years. It doesn't
work like that. That's not what I'm looking for. I
want my team to be able to be good. I
want to have a magical season that I can remember.
The Mets have not won a World Series since nineteen
eighty six. Do I remember nineteen eighty six? Back then,
I was just turning into being a professional right sportswriter,
(24:37):
and it was magical. And I'll hold on to that
for my whole life. And that's the point that I'm
trying to make, is that you would rather your team
win a championship than to always be good or always
be in the mix so you always feel like they
have a shot. I'll take one championship and nine bad years.
(25:02):
I would I take nine bad years for one championship
compared to being relevant all ten years but never winning,
because it is about winning and ultimately, you want to win,
and you're not gonna win every year.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Like the Denver Nuggets.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Finally won, right, those fans, Okay, they haven't won in
two years. Those fans don't feel like, oh my god,
what happened? We only won that one time? No, you
take that, because there's the Utah Jazz who have never won.
We just mentioned the Padres who have never won. The
Tigers haven't won since nineteen eighty four. Like there's so
(25:41):
many teams. The Mets haven't won since nineteen eighty six.
The Dodgers took thirty some odd years before they broke through.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
You remember they had won it since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Yeah, Like, I could go on and on and on,
and then some of these bad teams that we ridicule,
they've won more recently. Right, the Yankees ever watched this
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Right, the Rangers had never won. They won. I could
go on and on and on about these teams.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, so here's here's you know what I wish we
could go back two days. You know why because I
would go to trash talking Tuesday. You know who I
would trash right now? I would trash rob G.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Rob G.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I want to trash you because the reason I want
to trash you is because you brought up the trash Marlins.
Shout out to my man, Dontrea Willis, that's my guy
in all but Dagget. The reason I brought this up
is because there's one thing to be we just haven't won,
but we're competing in a long time. And then there's
I don't even know if this team want to have
a baseball.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Andres lost Cubs just survived, they win, they popped up.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, he was swinging for the fence. You know you
saw that on the first pick.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I mean, I don't blame him.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Look at the manager, the stoics like a stone face,
like another year with the Padres because you have Bundt
there maybe and no, no, it's hours.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
But hey, it's the perfect time for this conversation. But
back to what I was saying, Rob G, can you
can you you see the shirt I have on right now?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I have on a bad boy Piston shirt.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And the reason why I think that would have been
relevant is because I would prefer it to be like,
how the Pistons do you covered?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
And Rob they in the late eighties they were great, won.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
A couple eighty nine, ninety, fell off for fifteen years,
bounced back in one in two thousand and four, fell
off for a while again. Now they're popping back up.
Good you use the Marlins, Rob G. The Marlins don't
just they're not just bad. When they don't win that
you don't even know they exist. You don't even know
that they have an ownership who wants to actually have
a baseball team. So Daggett, for my case, it's hard
(27:41):
to go with the Padres bad bro my bad, yeah,
because the Marlins sucks so bad as an organization as
a whole.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
But I have to agree with Robin this one.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Like I said, I prefer it to be more like
a Piston style but winning or maybe even the New
York Giants, the Football.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Giants, same thing right there. They are bad, a lot
of bad. Yeah, they got four championships.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
The reason why is because I got to be a
kid in the when the you know, for using the
Pistons for example, that was amazing to see them win.
Then I went through some lean years and Gray Hill.
You know, they were solid, but they weren't great. And
in that twenty four team, I just got into business
and that whole little run was just an amazing run
for a four or five year stretch to be a
part of. They obviously got one, they went to another one,
(28:23):
so I have to agree. Unfortunately, you do want to
be the Marlins in this instance a terrible team, but
because winning ultimately you have that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
To last for your rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You can always tell your kids, your grandkids, boy that
time we won. In ninety seven, boy that time and
O three when we won oh, let me tell you
the city was on fire.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I listened to Dontrell Willis.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I sit next to him when I do Dodgers, and
he just tells the stories of what it was like
being with that manus, being in Miami during that time,
you know, those couple of years where they were good
and relevant. He just talks about it. So ultimately, you
as a fan, you as a player, you want to
be in that city, that environment when they win. So
that is the answer. But you picked the terrible I
mean the Marlins.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
No, but the Marlins are an example of that.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
As bad as they've been, they've been on both spectrums.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
But they what team are you laughing at?
Speaker 7 (29:09):
Has won two World Series since ninety seven, right in
the last twenty five years, you'd be hard pressed to
name the Tigers had Verlander, David Price, Suzer, Miguel Cabrera,
maglio'or Joniaz.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
You beat me like.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
All these guys and they got pard They got nothing,
they got nothing, nothing to show for it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
They got to they got to a couple of World
series that got.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Their right, I mean they did, but you get my point,
and then you got like, the Marlins won two World Series?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Can the Marlins find a less low floor. My gosh,
it's either we won a World Series or we might
as well be dis evolved from the Major League Baseball.
Can they find a you know, we're notadium somewhere happy media,
you know, maybe with the Angels at times.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Gading back to the Padres, you just mentioned all those
great players that played for the Tigers, and if you
really look back on it, it's incredible how many great
players they.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Have the team.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Do you think ten years from now, like you say
you did with the Tigers, ten years from now, we're
doing the same thing with the Padres. They has Easton,
Machado and Darvish and all.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
You think they're gonna have a so.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Even worked out Jackson Merrill, a up and coming rookie.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
You know what I meant. Could they be like the
Tigers of this decade?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
That's absolutely rob g Absolutely could be because they have
nothing but star power. And we talked about it, great ballpark,
great fans, Kelvin. They were in a situation it's not
too many teams where there's no football, there's no basketball,
there's nothing. They they are everything to the right. They
(30:53):
have the city to themselves.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
The only thing I would challenge that is when you
brought up the Tigers again, rob G, is at least
they got to the World Series and the Padres, you know,
the boogeyman is the Dodgers. For them, the boogeyman is
you know, whether it be the NLCS. Like, they just
can't get past that, And I think that makes it
worse because again, at least the Tigers, if you want
to play that game, can say, well, dagge, we at
least tasted the World Series, the city was lit. You know,
(31:18):
we got there a couple of times in a handful
of years. The Padres just can't even seem to do that.
And they've been an advantageous situations where you think this
is the year, it ends up falling short. So I
don't even know if they have that, you know that
to at least put in.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Their back pocket.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah that's true, but it's talent wise.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
You want to say that, Yeah, like you're gonna.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Look at it and say that they couldn't even get there,
like like that's the part that's so crazy that that
they just can't seem.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
To get over the hump. I really thought I picked them,
Rob G knows.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
I liked the team going for every year for year
six's Yankees World Series.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I know I said it two years ago, but this
time it counts.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
No, I don't know about that next show.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
No, hey, rob Zie, we'll give him. He got about
what six seven, eight months.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He'll pounds back and they be like, you know what,
they'll make one nice little signing something.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Right, The Dodgers are going to acquire Bryce Harper in
the office.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He'll still be like the the Padres.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
They got just as much up and Doce.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Harper, you're calling it now.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Bryce Harper's wash won't even be an all star Padres
in the World Series.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
What you guys imitating? Does I sound like that?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (32:31):
You do. Yes,
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.