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October 6, 2025 39 mins

Rob and Kelvin provide up-to-the-minute analysis of Game 2 between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the Philadelphia Phillies, tell us if John Harbaugh needs to be on the hot seat as the Baltimore Ravens continue to spiral, and explain why they have such a big problem with NFL players like Arizona Cardinals running back Emari Demercado. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss Harbaugh’s job security in Baltimore, the most disappointing part about the Las Vegas Raiders’ sluggish start to the season, Dak Prescott’s impressive play as of late, why the Los Angeles Chargers are struggling so mightily right now, and much more!

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Speaker 5 (01:35):
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Speaker 4 (01:38):
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Right here on Fox Sports Radio, give you an update
on the baseball.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
The Dodgers have scored.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, it's one nothing, the bases loaded with one out,
So the Philliser in a tight spot because we're in
the seventh inning.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
So it was it was getting cruising through. I looked up, like, oh,
you know, and so here we are. This is a
big hit here. Could could get them in a good spot.
Give the Dodgs a chance of going up two.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
And remember there's a difference between two and oh when
you win your games at home and you win them
on the road. The Dodgers will have won two in
Philadelphia and go home. You know, like that is a big,
big advantage. If that is to be the case, you
might try to be up in there something.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
So that's that's one thing. And then again for people
just joining us. We talked about it earlier. Just a
pretty awesome weekend for me at Southern Connecticut State University
having a press box named after me, and you suld
check out the pictures. It's what I dreamt about. That
picture is what I had envisioned.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
You look.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
I told you, man, you looks felt. You denied yourself
for so long. You said no cheesecake, no carves, no sex.
You did it man?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Excuse me?

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Oh, I got carried away. You got carried my bad.
I thought you went full boxer Rob. But you know
when they dedicated, they said, I ain't doing nothing. Hey baby,
look give me eight weeks. I went too far. I
remind me of a Saturday Live or something and they
were doing something that was like when did you start
having sex? And he was like twelve or thirteen years

(03:18):
old or something, and the other person was like twelve
or thirteen years Oh, really you were having sex.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
And then he goes, oh, you mean with another person? Oh,
so is that what you're telling me? You did go
this whole time without it. Let me start there. I
had a little. I don't know how far I can
go with the joke. You, Joe, I'm trying to make
it six years like you be careful, ye, all right?
The contracts up. Yeah, I'm glad you withheld yourself and
it did you well, man, look at your legs were strong.

(03:46):
It was look at you stood up there the whole
time while they presented it, unveiled your name.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
It was fun. Was she there? Then that boy? Hey
may that boy had dessert afterwards, didn't he?

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Right, man, maybe I'm back?

Speaker 7 (04:00):
Is it cream?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
That boy said?

Speaker 6 (04:02):
I gotta keep strong reading out the Dodgers. There was
a big hit by somebody I didn't see who was up.
I think it was Will Smith too. Wasn't Will Smith?
Was it Will Smith? It was Will Smith. That's a
big come back because that's a two out hit, right,
I was a two out here and that's what he does.
And that's why I told you the Dodgers are gonna
win it off. That's a big hit. Too many him,

(04:23):
Tayoskar Hernandez show has too many people, too many clutch hitters.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
You've been saying that Dodge gonna win it all for
the last four years. But all right, and I've been
saying to Padres, and of course I got hurt again.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
You said the Yankees, Padres, Yankees ain't want it, and
I don't know how long two thousand and.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Nine, like I was ten years ago when the Dodgers
won it in twenty twenty and one, in thirty one years.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
But now that twenty twenty twenty twenty four about to
be twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Five, Dodgers bull move out the way. It's a new
evil empire. Okay, can we can we talk? Wait till
the bullpen comes out? Right, Yeah, I went to the
bull pay and you ain't lying? Then wait to ain't
lying there? Boy shook it. They got to get up
by at least six.

Speaker 9 (05:04):
Rob watching Dodgery like this is financially rough for me
to see this. Now you got Mookie, so you got
moved to the ground for a couple of years there.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
I told you all you have to do is have
Afro latinop it.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
We're not just trying to tell you we're good. Then
you back.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
We got to get the Yankees, and they got seven
brothers on the team. That's all we need.

Speaker 10 (05:23):
They really got the content right there, Yankees.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
Yeah, shoot, they got it. They're the Black Yankees this year.
There's only seven other brothers and the whole rest of
the league. They got they got.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
Heck, that's all right, we'll ride them, all right, Rob. Guh.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
The Ravens they get blowed They got blowed out again,
and they got blowed out by the Texans who couldn't
score against anyway.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah, I think you lost a pick them with that.

Speaker 10 (05:52):
Yeah you did. Yeah, you lost. I picked for you.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
We lost by the boy. I went two and three.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Rob.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
That's right on part for you. That's like we're that's
where that's where you are, all right, Rob. But yeah,
Baltimore Ravens. Everybody's Super Bowl pick on the show.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Tough scene for us, just usd everybody.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
When we got the seat in there's about twenty five.

Speaker 9 (06:14):
Yeah, just now you mentioned it, Rob up quickly. The
Houston Texas coming into Sunday, it'd only scored five touchdowns
as a team five.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
They scored six against the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
They ended up winning forty and the thirty four point
loss tied for the second worst margin defeat under John Harball.
Their largest home defeats is twenty thirteen. The forty four
points they allowed is the most in a home game
in Harball's eighteen seasons at a coach. Obviously a low
point for Harball and that much beleaguer defense. Even still,

(06:48):
he decided he's gonna stick with defensive coordinator Zach Or
even as they continue to suffer ameliating defeat after amiliating defeat,
and in fact, Kyle Van Noys, one of their veteran
leaders defense, was asked after the game, if you know, again,
another blowout loss, another situation where the defense doesn't even
show up, so it was dropped a by the Lions.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, I think he was go ahead.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
I was asked if he thought that maybe John Harbon
and Zach Gore's messaging was no longer getting through to
the team.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Take a listen news response.

Speaker 11 (07:22):
Do you feel like the messages that are coming from
John or Zach or whoever aren't getting through in some way?

Speaker 12 (07:29):
You know, I'm that's a that's probably a question that's
above my pay grade. Probably. I think that's a harbond
Zo question to be honest, Like, I think their messaging
is fine, and we got to be the group to
take that and go out and do the simple things right,

(07:50):
the fundamentals, easy basic stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Well, I mean he gave the right answer. What do
you want to say there?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
That's not that's not really for him to be able
to put that in a spot like that, you know,
and uh and talk about that. You know, you get
confronted with her. You got to know how to answer it.
So did show get a hit? It's for nothing he did. Ye,
that's another two out hit. There's three hits right there
with two outs, three runs with two outs.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Those are big.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Those are the big ones in baseball because baseball, especially
the playoffs, is pitching and timely hitting.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
You you need to score a lot.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
You want to get timely hitting, timely hit, I mean
two out hits, guys and runners in scoring position bring
them in from third with less than two outs. Like,
that's how you win playoffs. To your point that the
Tigers almost did that yesterday.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Couldn't get anything, so they got the two timely hits.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
That's another game.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Let me tell you what schooble pitching up one oh
after you win in Seattle.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
That's the game you want to win, right Hey, I
know he walked in that club. I was like, man,
I don't ask for much that that's the one can
get a few hits.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
That's the one I mean, because you would have been
up two oh again, winning two games in Seattle, coming
back to Detroit.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
You gotta now you got a serious finish it some
We got a million conversations.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
But anyway, but that's what happens when it's Monday night
going on and great playoff baseball going on.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
NBA will be starting a minute.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Boy, No, no, no, we're gonna talk about whatever's going on.
I mean, we're not gonna ignore.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Got you got lamb chops going on that you ain't sharing.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
I'm sorry, I got carried away. You got one more
lamp chop, and I'm gonna know something. You got one
more lamb chop. Rob g he coming here with one
more lamp chop dripping down, hold it up like it's
a popsicle.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
And when y'all eat tonight on me, When y'all eat tonight,
y'all gonna be hibs way. I already had the mac
and cheese, Mac and cheese.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Kelvin put his fork into mac and cheese.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Fork.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Don't double that tone told me to do it. He said,
you gotta do it. I told him, it's three things.
I'm snobbishing mac and cheese, because that's just you know,
that's a staple coffee randomly out the blue, and then
this one's super random crabcakes. Don't ask those three things.
So I told him I'm weary of everybod. It made
me want to smack somebody mouth.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
And we got greens and we got corn bread, so
we really and champagne, so we're good tonight. Okay, uh,
here we go. I said this after week one, when
they blew the game in Buffalo. At some point, John
Harbaugh come, come, come on, really, is this what?

Speaker 5 (10:22):
And I get it, Lamar's out. You want to use
that as an excuse.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
You can't use it as an excuse because the defense
gives up forty points. And it started in Buffalo when
they when they blew that game that Lamar and them
came out and put a forty piece on the opening
night on the road and they lost, and they lost,
and I said, John Harbaugh should be fired. And everybody, oh,

(10:46):
you're a prisoner of the moment. All are you gonna
get to go blah blah blah. And now look where
they are. They're in a hole that they're not gonna
get out of. I mean, this is like gonna be
a wast season. They're not gonna fix this.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
The DC doesn't get fired after they gave up six
touchdowns to the Houston Texans.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Seriously that alone.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Wait a minute, They scored five touchdowns coming into the
game all season and they got six on us.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Due ri your key and clicker. Okay, David Carr, So man,
he like, why couldn't I had that defense? I had
the face, I could have stayed in the league. Right,
David Carr, somewhere met you think I'm crazy. I'm serious
about Harball.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
When you start, when you start holding onto your guys
and nobody get is held accountable. You talk about players
being held accountable, right, where's the coaches? Ain't no way
the coaches have to somewhat be held accountable as well
on why this isn't happening and why they're so bad.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
So when we had this conversation, I was not firing
John Harball. Here is my issue with John Harball and
my conversations if I'm the general manager that would have
to have with him or he needs to have with
himself in the mirror.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
A couple of things.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Number One, you talk about the defensive coordinator who's still safe.
You don't have to update his LinkedIn page as we speak.
But when I look at these numbers, you can't be this.
You can't be last in points allowed per game, which
is obvious as we've talked about they giving up points
to everybody thirty five point four. You can't be the
worst defense. Rob how many yards you think they're giving

(12:15):
up a game three hundred and twenty, I'm just four
hundred and sevens a game is crazy. Past defense, you're
second to last giving up two hundred and sixty six.
And then run defense, you're twenty seven giving up one
hundred and forty one. That's horrendous. You can't be bad
at stopping to run and stopping to pass, absolutely horrific.

(12:39):
Here's another issue I have. They lack awareness right now
because he's probably thinking, Man, some sometimes I hear him
talk as if they were a player two away.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Man, we just you know, we got to tighten up.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
We're just he's making it like, oh man, if we
you know we got a bad pass interference caller, Man,
we had the one bad fumble. No, I just read
you the numbers of how bad it is. Also, you
know what I think is happening to them, and this
happens when you have greatness. I think they've gotten Lamar
Jackson's spoil where the defense is used to God, we're
gonna put up thirty to forty five points.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
We'll be good. Even if we get down with me
and you said, here will we do all? He can
go down O three, They'll be fine as Lamar.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
And I think the team as a hole in the
defense specifically has just gotten used to we got Lamar,
will be all right, And that isn't how you operate.
If you're trying to get to that next level. You
should be saying, man, we got Lamar all week week. Man,
we want to help Lamar. We want to make sure
we are that additive to him so that he ever
has a bad night. God forbid Lamar Jackson ever have

(13:38):
a bad nights y he loses, you know, a couple
of intercepts, we got his back, you know. And that's
what the Chiefs were able to do. Patrick Mahols wasn't
great last year or the year before, but they were
able to defense able to hold it down. You know
when Peyton Mann he finally won a championship, what do
we say, man, if he ever had a defense. Finally
had Mathis and Freedy and Bob Sanders and those guys,

(13:59):
and they had a defense that can say, hey, if
you're ever just normal, Like they weren't a super Bowl,
they won, remember what the against the Bears. They weren't great,
thankfully at a defense that can hold it down as well.
My point is, I think the Ravens have gotten so
Lamar centric that they just they haven't figured out another way.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
And last I think, but this is just this is.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Really bad, like something internally is wrong, Like like I'm
not saying they're gonna be the greatest defense. This is
the Ravens defense that won a Super lowes exactly, you
know what I mean. But but this is really forty
points a game and the cough up that game in Buffalo.
You remember where Josh Allen had two hundred and seventy
five yards or two fifty in the fourth quarter. That's

(14:38):
not a that's not like a mishap like somebody made
a bad play or turned around, got turned around.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
That's like you're not stopping anybody.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
The Lions rushed for two hundred and fifty yards like that,
Like there's there's something else there internally. That can't be
all the players. And that's why I'm saying, at some point,
what will it take you to say John Harborough won
a Super Bowl? I was like many many many years
ago and it's been nothing but disappointment.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
That's why I'm saying, I think it should be time.
What are you waiting on?

Speaker 6 (15:08):
I'm gonna say this, just like an eye in your house,
you know, or an oven, you start to warm that thing.
You may throw a pizza in of you got warm
it up. I'm warming up to see it ain't hot,
but it's warm because again, you know me, I like stability.
I don't want to just get rid of a guy
and then go, uh, you come here, you take the job.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Now.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
If you're on your job and you got a search
and you found the new Kyle Shanahan, m Flores, Sean
McVay or something, then okay, that's a different conversation. But
I'm not a fan of just firing a guy just
and then closing your eyes and looking around. But something
is definitely has to change it again for me, they
have to picture themselves.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
We have to be good at all fast. It can't
just be what we got.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Lamar, He'll figure it out, because that's not fair to Lamar,
because in order to win, there are gonna be times
where your run he wasn't his best, but you picked
him up. Because that's happened to every great quarterback. There
are times or that defense picked them up, their special
teams picked them up other guys around them. They ran
the ball and just ran the ball thirty five times.
This might bown someone's throat. Whatever happened to that. So yeah,

(16:08):
they need a hold for philosophy. Change right now because
something's going on all right.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Should John Harball be fired in Baltimore?

Speaker 4 (16:20):
I try to tell you after week one, do the
Ravens need to make a change or you cool with
this giving up forty points a week defensively? Seriously, we'll
continue the conversation next with you. We want to hear
from you. Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, It
is the Odd Couple on a Magic City Monday, Rob
Parker along with Kelvin Washington right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5 (18:32):
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Speaker 6 (18:32):
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Speaker 5 (18:36):
Is it time to fire Harbor? I say no.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Rob has been saying yes since week one and eight, seven,
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Speaker 5 (18:42):
On Fox. We got a call. Yep, who is Drew
Drew in New Jersey. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up Drew.

Speaker 13 (18:49):
Yeah, I think it is. I think it's time because
I think they have too good of defenders for them
to be that bad. I think situationally, they need somebody
that situation only knows how to handle those pressure movements
that can help guide Lamar in those pressure movements. I
think you all for Bill Belichick that job. However, you
tell him that you need to leave the girlfriend back

(19:11):
in North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Also Drew Drew the Super Bowl Drew, I ain't out
at the bucks.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Take I hear that it was Super Bowls up for
grabs right now, but you took it too far with
the Bill Belichick Number one. Bill Belichi don't even want
to coach no more. She's making him coach. He want
to be at home. He's tired. You don't want to
be doing none of this. She's trying to keep him
relevant out there. That man is tired. Did you hear him?
Lost a head? Just Tom we ha man, That man
is He wanted to go home. Bro at eighty eight

(19:41):
after the game, Oh boy, instead of order, what're you
about to say?

Speaker 5 (19:46):
He asked for a wheelchair to be giking. Done a
little joint. You see, man at the grocery store he's hired.

Speaker 13 (19:55):
Man.

Speaker 9 (19:55):
Did you see that latest mini controversy that got involved
in this morning which one?

Speaker 10 (19:59):
So Drake May, he had a great game last night,
right and upset.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
They don't want to They don't want to celebrate.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
They don't want to post anything related to the Patriots
on the North Carolina feed any kind of way, even
though Drake May is one of the few really good
NFL players that have come out.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Of North Carolina. Probably the greatest so Lawrence Taylor came
out of it.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
But I mean in recent no, no, right, because it's
not a football and they said, no, we're not sharing anything.
It wasn't until somebody pointed it out, like hey, you know,
this is like a band. They got going and it
took them once that became public, like twenty minutes later,
they put a Drake May highlight it in a.

Speaker 10 (20:34):
Package of other players. So it wasn't just dream May.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
But but but they but no, no, no, the school
has to acknowledge Drake May.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
I mean, come on, see Bill Belichick, you about to
beat me to it. Yeah, Bill Belichick is new stop.
It might not even go anywhere after this year. Seriously,
there's no guarantee he can pay US ten million, whatever
it is.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
You don't do that as a school because because somebody's
there and he's got to ask to grind.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
He's one of your own, you right, he's one of
your own.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
You should I'm not saying you got a trumpet the
Patriots or whatever, but Drake may just had a game
and maybe.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Win for him.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Undefeated team read type of a win. One of those moments. Absolutely,
you you show some love to that, and you don't
let one person just come in and run things who
hasn't earned it.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
This ain't Nick Saban, you know what I mean? Six seven, eight,
nine years of dominant.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's what they've done at North at Colorado with Dion,
you know, like let's let's retire everybody's number, this and
that and all that.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
They didn't win anything.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
No, that's fair point, you know, like seriously, sure they
got better, but did they win anything. It ended you
didn't have to do it so immediately. I'm not even
saying you shouldn't have done it in general, but to
do it so amia.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
All the Colorado football players who had better.

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Cordell's steward up there no no cordelash ain't got no statue.
That's about all I got. Then they have a running
back thing that they have one running back too. I
ain't mistaken, all right, TJ. Who SMAs out on the way.
We'll get to him just a moment right now. Some
good things happening in sports. That's why Steve the secrets here,
Hey Steve.

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Speaker 7 (22:52):
What I mean, man, how y'all doing? Man, good to
hear y'all voice.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Man, y'all doing a great job as always, My.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Man, appreciate you. Let's appreciate that. Uh, I want I
want to start here.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Don't even to say which I think you about to say,
because who's just gonna have an issue?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I know who doesn't think that John Hawball should be fired. Uh,
but uh, they're giving up forty points a game. Okay,
the defensive coordinator is there, he's standing by.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
I mean, what do you gotta do? At some point?
You got to make a change, don't The coaches at
some point? TJ have to be held accountable as well.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
If you're cutting players and players if they don't perform, well,
you know there's you're gonna move on.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Or bench them or get rid of them.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Why why don't they the coaches have the same kind
of responsibility or accountability to.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
A certain degree. Rob, you're right, and you have a
great point. I'll say this specifically to the Baltimore Ravens
is I'm not firing John Harball. He's a great coach.
That's number one. Number two, they have their best d
lineman he's out, bro conn Smith, their best linebacker he's out.

(24:02):
That's two guys in her secondary, Kyle Hamilton and Marlon Humphrey.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
They're out the out week one when.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
They go no, no, no, no, they weren't.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
They weren't.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay, Madam Bouquet was he was all right.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
But that's my I'll say this.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
At some point, hard ball is going to have to
with Zach Ordin that's the defensive coordinator, and figure out
why is this happening? Is it the play calls? Is
it a lack of understanding from the players, or is
it the players themselves?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
And whatever it is, changes have to be made.

Speaker 7 (24:36):
That's a fact. You can't just keep going down this
road and saying, Oh, we're gonna get better, Oh, we're
gonna get better. What is it? Is it the play calls,
is it the coaching or is it the players not
making plays? It has to be one of the three.
It may be all of the three, but they need
to figure that out for sure.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
And here just a little follow up.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
De Texans came in with five touchdowns all year. They
scored six yesterday DJ like like that that should be
a bad sign that the Texans couldn't score, and six.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
Months down the Texans said, the Ravens is just what
the doctor orgon does you know what?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
But did the prescription call for an overdose? That's all
I want to know it.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
To me, it's I saw a stat today. This Ravens
team through five games has given up more points than
the two thousand Ravens with Ray Lewis and Red then Hire.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
I believe that.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
I do believe that eight seven point three points that
team was Unbelieveadle.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
Think when you think the Baltimore Ravens, you think defense,
and so that's why they need to get this fixed.
And to me, it's a combination of the coaching and
the players. It's not just on the players. It's not
just on the coaching. It goes hand in hand because
they've never been this bad. And so you can't just

(25:57):
put it on a coach. You can't just it's these
things are married, and so somebody has to be a
leader on that defense. And if God don't understand what's
going on, help him out, or the coaches made this,
they need to simplify.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Things or make better calls.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
And Hardball knows this and maybe he's just giving the
coach a chance to do it.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
You're not doing it.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
Okay, now I'm gonna have to do it for you.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
TJ, who sme was on Our guests Own with the
Odd Couple Robin Kelvin on the Magic City Monday. Let
me ask you about this, Rob. You know, Rob and
I getting here yell at each other and go at it.
One of the things we did agree on was that
Pete Carroll wasn't it and just we didn't see the
vision there. Now they're sitting here one and for Gino
doesn't look great. He's regressing. He finally had a few
good years. Now he's going back to old Gino. So

(26:39):
there's that. But on the flot, I would take a
slice of a cold slice of Gino's pizza.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Over Geno Smith right now. I'm just saying. And the
other side of that, TJ.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Is the Colts are four and one, and Daniel Jones
told everybody, shut up, y'all said, I was, you know,
not the guy.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
He is looking great.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
So the contrasts of the two teams, Just tell me
what you think about the coach and how bad is
it is for the Raiders.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
Well, I'm gonna say this, it's early.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
It's early.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
Daniel Jones needs to be an MVP candidate the way
he planned that number one, it's way early. It's early,
but he the way they're playing, if they can keep
this up. And I'm glad you guys brought up the
Raiders because Pete Caurle said, we expect to compete and
we expect to be right there. They're not right there. No,
you thought you thought AP was the problem. And Pete

(27:28):
Carroll's coaching better players than AP had. At least he
got a quarterback back there. And they look.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Awful, awful.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
The Raiders. I don't know where where do they get
another win from. Unless the team just takes them lightly,
they may go one in sixteen. Now you know that's
hard to do.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
But they got the Titans next week and they're coming
off and the Titans just came off of improbable win
with Miami. But you're right, it's really bad. And and
you know, Pete Carroll, everybody was selling this culture and
this I was kipching. Culture starts when you start winning.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
That's what people are winning. Now, you gotta win some
game before people are all on that.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
The thing that the thing that puzzles me is Pete
Curle has always been a run first guy. We're gonna
run the ball, We're gonna play defense. He is letting
Geno Smith air that.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Thing out and he's leading the league and picks and
so at.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Some point, at some point, you draft a running back
in the top ten, you gotta make him earn that
money and get asking gency the ball and say, you
know what, this is what it's gonna because you can't
continue to air it out and Gino Smith is turning
it over at the rate that he that he is.
But it's not gonna be easy for the Raiders and
Pete Curle to do what they're doing. But what's from the.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Best, Well, yeah, I was gonna ask you, Dallas Cowboys.
I know they were chanting to MVP for DAK and
and whatnot. Where are you one? I know he's got
doesn't have a number one receiver, and he's got Casey
Lamb is out and some offensive linemen and somehow they
put it together. But I'm just not impressed by the

(29:06):
wins and who they're beating.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
MVP. I'm not on that bandwagon.

Speaker 12 (29:12):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Cide Lamb is out.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
George Pickens is the number one receiver. He's that talented
and so listen, let's not start that narrative that he
don't have anybody to throw to.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
He has a great But that's what they're trying to say.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
I know now, well, I'm not buying that because I
know football, I know the game, and George Pickens is
a number one receiver. He can do it. He can
go deep, he can run routes, He's gonna make contested catch,
he can do everything. The Cowboys, because of expectations weren't
high and they're playing better than expected. It's oh da,

(29:46):
Priscott is a good player. He's played like this before.
When they get to the playoffs, we need to see
the regular season dak in the playoffs. That's That's the
only problem I think that deck has had is he's
had really good regular seasons and then they played the
Green Bay Packers the first game, and you're like, wait,

(30:07):
that wasn't the deck we saw in the playoffs. And
they played the San Francisco forty nine ers and that
ain't the deck we saw in the regular season. I'm sorry, Like,
that's the deck they want to see, And so, but
the Cowboys are doing a lot better than many expected,
I included. But to me, when you talk MVP, it's
Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, and whoever else you want to

(30:28):
put in there.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah, Rob and I gonna have another conversation about that,
the MVP in just a moment, TJ Our guests here,
let me get you out of here on this one.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
What happened?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
What's going on with the Chargers? All of a sudden,
the Chargers were super Bowl champions?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
The best ya, TJ. We had, We had the Packers
and the Chargers with the Super Bowl. We already all
agreed that was it. What happened?

Speaker 7 (30:53):
I'll say this, man, the Chargers, they're built around that
offensive line. They have so many injury He's now on
the offensive line. Justin Herbert was hit so many times,
Justin he was hit more times yesterday than he was
hit the first three games of the season. And so
they're built. And that's what how Horrorball wants to construct
the team through the big the big dudes. And so

(31:16):
obviously Slader gets hurt before the season, Joe out goes.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Down with a high inkule screen. It's tough for them.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
To do what they want to do and be who
they are. When you have two not just starters out
high level starters, really good players, they got to figure
it out, though, and that's what a good coach his
job is to do. And so I believe Jim Harball
will get in there and figured out. And then here
comes Joe back in a couple of weeks and they'll

(31:42):
be back rolling against just a little bumping the roll,
little bumping the road.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
All right, there you have it. We'll see. Appreciate you,
TJ as always.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Man.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Thanks be as always, y'all.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Keep up the great work full.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Us man, We appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
All right, there you have it. That was Who's And
on the way, there's something I got robbed. They gotta
they gotta stop doing something. They drive me up a wall,
and ain't nobody got time for that. I'll tell you
what it is. It's the yacht Couple of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 6 (32:21):
Fox Sports Radio. It's they couple. Rob Parker, Kevin Washington.
I thought you were coming back in here with another
rib or another lambs, another lamptop or something.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
No, we're getting close to uh, we're gonna be no
eating pretty.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Still like five ribs by the way, my goodness, all right,
how do you know Adam and Eve?

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah he gave her rib he did, Yeah, he gave
her one. How do you know that Adam from Adam
and Eve one black because his name would have been
Adam Bonte. No, no, the.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Black man wouldn't have given his ribs to nobody.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I got give him a ding for that, Mary, give
him a ding. No, it was ignorant. No, that was
ignorantly good because Anima.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Babe, you ain't got to them. Yes, what don't you say?
You said you didn't want none. By the way, shout
out to all the ladies listening. You gotta stop doing that. Okay,
when we ask Elijah, you know what I'm talking about.
Don't get nervous over there, robb g head, babe, did
you want something?

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Now? Where you going? I'm gonna go here, I'm gonna
go there. Okay, did you want something?

Speaker 12 (33:17):
No?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
I'm good a salad anything. My stomach hurts a little bit.
Then you get back, but to get me. But what
do you mean what I said? You didn't want? You
said you ate earl, you said your stomach. I always
assume she wants something.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
But no, no, but you swore this time, no, no, no,
this time, I don't want anything.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Y'all gotta stop doing it.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
But fellas, you gotta stop falling for the bait, all right,
get her something, Just get her something, and even if
it ends up being something more for you.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
No eleven dollar vanilla bean cheesecake, that's all. Well, you're
gonna eat that? Did you just really?

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Like?

Speaker 5 (33:46):
You really set the price on here? No, that's crazy,
how how much your costs put it? So?

Speaker 6 (33:50):
But the only good thing I'll say about the price
is it you gotta eat it over two days?

Speaker 5 (33:54):
I do two or three? Do you eat in one?
Hold on, it's a one day bill. I take it.
We're gonna have that tonight. That's over shoot Dessert Desert.

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Rob g Mayor, let me hear this.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
That's what looks to.

Speaker 14 (34:23):
Be a seventy two yard touchdown Ryan has been overturned.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
The officials looked at it.

Speaker 14 (34:27):
They deem that de Mercado lost the handle before the
ball broke the plane. It rolls out of the back
of the end zone and it's ruled to touch back
for Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
As we check in with Gene, just incredible. Ain't nobody
got Tampa.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
Ain't nobody got time for the dropping the ball before
you get in the end zone. Now you would say,
all right, this happened once every now and again. No,
this has happened as an epidemic. Right now, this is
happening way too often. You can pick from college to
the pros, daggets even happening on your stream in one
of your favorite shows. There's a new show called tap Powers,
and it's basically like that Eli Manning character that he

(35:03):
played those skits that he did, Well, you got this
one and then you have He basically gets into the endzone,
could have won the championship. He drops the ball and
that's a fictional TV show, but it's happening way too often.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Rob is geting ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Happened a couple of weeks ago when you had the
Indianapolis Coast do that, and you had their receiver do
that and done and deny Mitchell, he did the same thing,
got the enzone, try to switch hands, Boom drops the ball.
They ultimately would lose the game might be sitting here
five and zero. If that doesn't happen, then you got
demark cardover on. We just talking a right now. Just
does it again? Get in the end zone after the

(35:36):
amazing play and lose it. And what makes me mad
about this the reason why he got no time for it.
Football is not a singular sport where okay, it's an
ax or something in tennis or a hole in water golf.
Do you know I had to block as an offensive lineman.
Your lineman had to block, Your quarterback had to get
you the ball. The defense had to get the interception.
All these things had to happen for you to get
your way, to get the chance to the end zone.

(35:57):
I promise you nothing will happen if you can just
wait anough the two yards, you can wait two more
yards to get the end zone even more further dropped
the ball.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
But I don't understand why because it looks cool, It
looks like it looks like it's what I do.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Baby. You should you should take it all the way
in and then get in, take another two feet in,
drop that. But that's coaching. That's like stuff you need
to talk about.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
It happens. It's happening way too often. It does happen
way too often. But I'm just college pros. I got
the streaming apps, I mean shows. It's getting crazy and
it's costing team's actual victories. The Arizona Cardinals ultimately lost.
Now it was a multitude of plays wild silly, looked
like Harlem Globe tried to plays. What's going on with them?

(36:40):
But I just don't get it. Get your button the
end zone. You know how hard it is to score
in this league? If you're playing the Ravens, Yeah, it's
hard to score.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
In this league. You get a chance to get in there.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Everybody there with the Ravens, right, But but that doesn't
make any sense why players would let up at that
very point when it as hard as it is to
get to that point, and then before you get in
throw the ball. It doesn't make sense, and we see
it all the time. It's not like we see it
once and then we don't see it for four or
five years. We just saw it with the coach receiver
last week, then we just had it yesterday with the Mercado.

(37:14):
So that's my thing is that it's not you guys
got to lock in on this man. You're costing your team.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Both of those teams lost, and again it wasn't singularly
just because of that, but you could point to that
as being a big part of the reason why they lost.
Driving me crazy. Of all the things you got to
figure and compete with and doing football, that should be
the easy one. That's running in the end zone, getting
through the end zone, like they saying, Dad going when
you're running track, run through the tape.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Finish the back.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Like I gotta tell my daughter, finish the job, because
sometimes I like, hey, go pick up She'll like pick
it up an initial leaf for cereal on the ground. No,
pick it all up. You know, you put the box bag,
you put the chair back, you get to see. Finish
the job. You got the interception, you return it for
a touchdown. Finish the job.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
You got the fifty yard run, finish the job, hurt
your team.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
I don't I don'tunderstand how that happens in the frequency
that it does happen.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
It should be like every right.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Like every once in a while somebody will just be
like brain dead, wind up doing something like that. But
it shouldn't happen as often as we've seen it happen.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Man, absolutely, Man, we got a good Monday night game
going on too.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Right now.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
The Jaguar Jack's right there in the red zone, chance
to tie the game up, they get in. We got
the four to one lead, Dodgers right now, they're at bat.
You got show Hey with two on two outs. We'll
see what he does here. But so some good sports
going on, enjoying it any and.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Steve will get us updated.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
Oh yeah, Steve will get us here coming up in
a few minutes. But yeah, that just drives me crazy.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
Man.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
I just don't get it. We see it so often
and it's the weirdest thing to me. It's like, dude,
you work, this is a big time play. You get
to get the end zone. You know how hard that
is in the NFL. That's no sense, makes no sense, man,
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
So nour number three, we will talk about oh yeah,
well we got a bunch MVP.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
MVP. We talked to TJ who schmas out a little
bit about it joint and we're going to join him.
He's going to join us. And then at some point
I'm ready to make a plate. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
No, no, no, we got it. But the champagne toast first,
and then the meals.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
Can you justlat commercial break no, no, no, relax while
he's had seven lamp chops in three roads, I don't
want to hear it.
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