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Speaker 3 (01:31):
We'll see.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
We got him coming up in last Call to towards
the end of the hour as always Rob g So Cardinals,
we were talking about the play that the coach made
that you know, the receiver dropped the ball. Well, that
happened again obviously this past Sunday as well, which frustrated
the head coach. And now a lot of people saw
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the video that came out all over to social media, right,
and then now it's the team has come.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Down on the coach.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
That's right now. Amari de Mercado, who you wouldn't expect
to know his name, were not for this play, right,
he breaks free, he's a four string running back, seventy
yard touchdown. Right as he's crossing the end zone plane,
he drops the ball, touched back.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Titans get the ball back.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
They eventually win.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
The game, which is just a bonup.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
So it was already he was he was persona Non
grade there for about twenty four hours, and then someone
on social media leaked a video of the sideline interaction
between he and Jonathan Gannon. Now De Marcardo looks like
he's about to cry, like his offensive lineman is holding
him up, he's really being consoled, and Gannon runs up
on him in a fit of rage, yelling in his face,
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which you know he's entitled to, and then on his
way past him, it looks almost like either he slaps
or he punches De Marcado's arm, and that's what set
things into a tizzy, and it ultimately led to the
Arizona Cardinals dropping a one hundred thousand dollars fine on
their head coach. Well, once that news be became public,
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we have seen a slew of NFL players. Former players
mostly chime in on the situation, most notably Yeh des
Bryant said, I don't agree with the fine whatsoever, says quote.
I believe it only happened because of the soft ass
world we live in today. If you're an athlete with
any kind of integrity and respect for the game, you'll
understand this situation. That's led to a bunch of different
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responses from a few notable players, including Marcus Spears. I
believe he was on ESPN. Yeah, says no, little brody.
Keep your hands off people. If you thought a coach
costs you a game and you hemmed him up, they
crucified you.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
And Lurice Jones Drew former pro bowler, now I think
works with the rams said to hell with the fine.
He should be fired immediately for putting his hands on it.
And you know what, thank God for those players. I'm
serious Kelvin who spoke out because.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
If the roles were reverse and somebody joked up Pete
Carroll for having that call to cast him the Super Bowl, right,
Richard Sherman's mad or whatever. They went up in pimp
slap Pete Carroll around, like what was that? You wouldn't
be in the league, right, you would be suspended, you
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would be all that. You could be yell at people.
That's a part of coaching. You can't be physical. Remember
tom Izzo was physical with a player and he got
people came down on him. It ain't about the wussification
of America. Everybody sawt No, it's not acceptable.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
None used to beat.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
The crap out of kids.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, you can't do that anymore. Parents are for that.
That's not egic. That's not teaching anybody anything. You could
get your point across without being physical.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Right, that's all your parent.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
There's a way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I'm not saying that kids don't deserve to get spanked
for certain situations, but you're not coming up upside the
kid's head every time they do miss take a misstep, and.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
The same thing.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
La Troulle's pretty well yoked up.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
PJ called Listenmo, go look and see right, don't drummed
out the league. If that was PJ doing it to
call Listenmo, it would have been, Oh, these guys are solved.
They can't take hard coaching. That was with Isozo's a yeller.
Don't touch the kid. I don't care. I care about
these girls. I'm trying to get them to be man. No,
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don't be physical because if somebody yoked you it would
be a problem.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yep, stop with this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Every time somebody don't want to get yoked up is
because everything's soft. Now, that's not true. We're smarter than
we ever have been. We're more educated. We understand on
how these things are and stuff that was doing done
in the past isn't necessarily the best way, and things
have evolved.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
We don't do the same things we used to do.
Stop it, No, listen, there's a couple of things you
just mentioned. You touched on it. Things evolve, right, I'm
gonna give you example Bobby Knight. The stuff Bobby Knight
did back in the seventies and eighties, rapping for players up,
you know, hemming them up, choking and got away with it,
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got throwing chairs on the court.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
All that would never.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Fly in twenty twenties, in twenty twenty five, So things
do evolve.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'm gonna give you another one.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
A legendary coach who back in nineteen seventy eight went
over and himed up and punched the opposing player, Woody Hayes.
Do you remember that, yep? On the sidelines, Woody Hayes
went up to a climson player, hemmed him up, punched
them up. My point is again, and I get it.
I understand some people say, man, Woody Hayes paid the
price for that. Did they never never caught coach again
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and all that. So I bring up those instances to say,
I understand back in the day things happen this is
how it was. But to me, you can't put yourself
in a position again. Where now if Demcardo reacts what
I rob Gi said. If you look at VI, he's emotional,
He's got like a lineman consoling him.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I'm going through it.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I'm embarrassed, I'm upset, I'm frustrated myself. I feel guilty,
I'm shameful. And you come over here and make matters
worse and then you put your hands on me. What
if I swing on you now just because I'm already
in that bad emotional state. Now you come put your
hand all in my chest, you know, swing on me
like that, and now I punch just out of natural reaction.
Now I'm the bad guy. Now maybe the league comes
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down on me. The league would come down on now
as two game, three games, four games, to spare whatever
it would be. So yeah, I think I think coaches
have to be you have to be the bigger person.
You have to say, all right, he's already going through it.
The play already happened. There's still game left. I see
a lineman trying to work with him, console them, talk
to him, you know, coach him up, teach him up,
Let me let that moment be because when you start
getting physical again, you open the door for a response.
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People always say this, you'll see this happen. Man, Why
do you put all he did was slap him? Well,
you can't if you slap me and then not tell
me how to then respond. If I slap somebody, they
very well may punch me. You get what I'm saying.
You the coach that opens the door for a response
from the mercado, that could have went bad. Now they
over here rumbling on the sideline, So be upset. Hit
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him on the shoulder, pads or something. Come on, baby,
just stay in the game. Come on, baby. I understand
that's smacking the butt. That's part of the game. We
all know that. But once you start coming over yelling
at me, barking at me and you hit me though too.
I just it's just it can lead to something bad.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
It shouldn't be physical, right. I think we all come
to know too.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Many great coaches who had successful without it. Tony Dungee
very successful coach. He didn't have to be going him
and up players, punching on you know, hitting on players.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Coach k was hitting people.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Know what I'm saying, That's what I'm saying one of
the if not, that's what I'm saying, trying to say
like that is not the only way to do it.
Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey, I don't know what they
got going on. It's like they can't get fired up
to their chest bump. He's like, man, look at him.
He looked like he ate good to that. Let me
go run into him and jump on his belly real quick.
I don't know what they got. It's like they gotta
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they can't get fired up till they yell at each other.
But yeah, I just you can absolutely coach me up,
yell at me, cuss me out, bark at me. You
don't have to get physical because my last point on
this to Rob, hey man, you don't know what people
have been through, meaning their triggers and their trauma and
hands raised up to people off you know what I mean,
Like I'm about to swing up man people. You don't
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know where people are from what they've been through and
maybe with abuses, like you don't just raise up your
hand and swing on anybody, grown man. Let it on
the kid. But I'm just saying, because you don't know
where they've been and what triggers them?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And Tiger?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
You might get Tiger up a cut real quick. Hi,
dou can rob? Are you can rob? Gu You where
are you on this?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Because we were pretty much in lockstep that the physical
part just does not work and and uh, players can't
do it.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
So why would you allow coaches? I think the team
had no choice. To be honest.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I only got one word for y'all, to quote the
late great Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Soft, y'all are soft?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
You know damn well? This happens three times a week
in the NFL. Where never the head coach because usually
the head coaches like the CEO, he's off to the side.
There is a defensive line coach, there is a offensive
line coach, jerres a line.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
To show me that stop it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
You want rob, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Show me video of somebody being.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Hit by the records the sidelines.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
The only reason that they did in this case because
Dean Marcado made the dumbest possible play you could in
the professional football.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Patriots got video of sidelines. They stop that. They stopped it.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Everybody who has played sports beyond eighth grade has had
a situation.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
You worked over fries.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
I wouldn't say roughed up like a burger and fries,
but yes, I've been smacked in the back of the helmet.
I have been punched in the chest on wearing pads.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Of course.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
The worst one, which doesn't sound bad until you've actually
had to happen, is getting hit with the whistle while
you're wearing a helmet, because it vibrates throughout your ears
and it gives you like a headache. Yes, this happens
in sports everywhere. It is not personal. I don't give
a damn about your trauma. If you're a professional athlete,
you are here to do a job. You are here
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to help our team win. And what you did was selfish.
And if you weren't embarrassed enough by what you did,
I'm gonna make sure you know how upset I am
because you cost us the game. De Mercado, and I
don't care that you're crying to the left tackle because
you're the guy who had a show ball on his
way into the end zone. I am not upset the
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fact that you are trying to Why is it that
Jonathan Gannon is getting more of a punishment than De Marcato.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
A great question.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I'll answer that because you know where players happened on
the field, good or bad. That's the what I do
on the player. I make the plays it happens. You, coach,
you don't get physical. Do you have pads on? Do
you have a helmet? Do you come through every night
with the pains and the ages that we do. How
many times will you and I talk about every NFL
player we know. Fingers are twisted, going that way, walk
with a limp, back is broken, They've gone through it.
(12:16):
I'm out here, blessed wedding tears, made a stupid mistake.
Cuts me out, find me, you can find me. Hey,
how may the game yo be finding you? Twenty five
thousand working on turnovers. I watched this the first one.
He came over you. Because his back is turned, you
can but you can see he kind of hit him.
All right, all right, coach, got it? You hit me,
yelling at me, you barking to me, that last little
extra hit. Don't get your last little extra hit on me.
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I'm a grown man.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I don't even if he would rather have been whatever,
slapped in the arm like he was, or cut tell
me I.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Mean that, but that's no because you took away my livelihood.
Those are two.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Do you have a fourth string running back making errors
like that and guess what?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Guess what a guess what a guess what a possible
response is getting cut?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's part of the game.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Told him that, told Rob that when when they cut
the Jets cut the kickoff return?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Who two of them? Two of them?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That's just part of the game. Before stream running back,
you do, that's a part of the game. Guess was
not part of the game.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And you want to say, hey, you can't play here,
that's a part of the game. I get that cut
release side slapping people around and beating people up.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
It's just funny that they're all up in arms about
what happened with Ganny and everything like that. Like you
mentioned Kevin, like, we did not see Travis kelce do
the exact same thing in reverse Andy Reid. Did anybody
say we need to find Travis kelcey one hundred thousand dollars?
How dare he get in Andy Ree's personal space? No,
they said he got fired up, he was out of line.
I'm sure they talked about it later. It is what
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it is.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well, here's why.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Though they have rapport, they literally have done this for years.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
This was a black and white situation where you can't
put hands on me.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
This is what they do, and they chess bump and
they get in each other's face and chest bump. I said,
your first little slap, coach, all right, I get it.
You punched me in a little come on, hit me
in the chest.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I understand it. That second slap you was getting too much.
You was getting off a little too much on that
second slap. Now I mess around. Slapped you in the
back of your head when you walked away. Now I'm
looking bad. Now I got the angry issues why they
slapped the coach.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Let me fined. I'm about to slap rob g when
we get to break.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Here, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
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putting hands on a play?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And I do wonder is it just upon one thousands
a lot of money?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I wonder if there's like more of a history, because
one hundred thousand that ain't no chump change for coach
or or it.
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appreciate it as always, are we sol Maybe we're soft?
Are you saying, man, keep your hands to yourself? Coach
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox we'll take some calls.
We got Marshall and delude. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Marshall?
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Going to talk to you for a long time? Well, yeah,
I love the show.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Is always thik you.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
I just watched the video to be honest, and it's like,
I don't think it's that bad, but I will say
I understand what you're saying about how it's a new
league you can't hit people and stuff like that. The
only thing I'm gonna say, though, like to being soft, right,
is that I get we can't go back. You said
something about Boby Knight. My favorite, my favorite sports thing
of all time is when he throws those chairs. That's
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my favorite sports thing. I understand we can't go back
to that, but the problem is people still want to
see gladiators and we have this feeling that weren't slowly
dripping away. Now again, I don't want guys to have
to wear diapers because they got concussions all their whole life, you.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Know, I don't want that.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
But the problem is the further we go, it's like
in ten years or we just gonna have flag football
and not have real football. And that's what people worry
about when you know, yeah, I think this coach lost
his cool. I don't know if he's in fired or
any of that, but like, yeah, he lost his cool.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well but but let me but Marshall, if a player
pushed down the coach or pim slapped him or did
something because he thought that that he cast him the game,
the player would not be treated that way.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
I mean the player.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
And I agree with you because you're talking about earlier like
but Pete Carroll's right. But my thing is, like you're
saying again, I think the problem is we're saying, like, oh,
I he smacked this guy.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I saw the play.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
I mean, maybe pushing the chest and he kind of
hit his arm. I think if a player did that
to a coach, he wouldn't have gotten hit hard, he
would have gotten fine. And people ones Top radio ordered
like this guy lost his cool, blah.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Blah blah, here's where so he got foed. We talked
about for a week or two when Lebron going to
the to the bench kind of bumped Eric Exposion, just
a bump like it wasn't even trying, and that became
a fighter. But if a player walked them to a
coach and shoved him twice, you best believe that would
be a conversation. If we saw you shove your coach twice, Marshall,
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it will be a time of conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Thank you, Marshall, appreciated.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Hey, Grant and Pensacola, you're on the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
What's up, hey, guys, thanks for taking my cold tonight.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
How y'all doing.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
We're doing right, doing great?
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Great, Great to hear it.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
Man, I just wanted to call in listening to y'all
talk about this Arizona coach and getting fined one hundred K.
I looked at his annual salaries, making seven point five mil.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
A slap on the rear.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, no, there's a lot of money. But but I
hear you. Obviously he's doing well in life. But uh yeah, yeah,
I mean this, That's why I said. I do also
wonder too, while the team went, they could have just
said we talked to him and we're fine, we're gonna
move on. So I wonder if there have been some
some other issues, maybe a.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
Call appreciate it, something else is going on.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Thank you guys, apiate it right and Kelly, cause you
could you couldn't be about Hey man, we've done this.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
We talked to this guy before I practice.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He put his hands on somebody, and now we're gonna
nip it in the butt.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Okay, to let there's a hundred th off the you know,
off of a random video. I could see why people
like that's a lot, but maybe there's something too.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
What's up, dray, Hey, hey doing thanks for taking the car.
I don't have a problem with the hundred stacks that
they required as a coach. But at the same time, listen, folks,
this is a game that they used to call football. Okay,
and these type of interactions. Yes, I know we have
to have respect both ways.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
But big big Bill.
Speaker 11 (20:32):
Parcels when he was stalking the sidelines, he would lay
hands on people at times when it needed to be
done and it was all in love and we just
move forward.
Speaker 10 (20:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And so I think that's so punching up an opponent
because he made a big play against his team.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
That was that was cool.
Speaker 11 (20:49):
Absolutely not Rob. But again, that's that that's different. That's
one team, one coach losing his mind, Bobby Knight throwing
the chair across the court. I'm talking about the love
that takes place in the locker room, where everybody's pulling
in the same direction, and it's coming from a good place.
It's not coming from putting you down. It's coming from, hey,
we need to rally, we need to motivate. I think
that's what's kind of being low.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's what That's what None used to tell us us that, right,
they were trying to do get the kids out the
Lord's work, right, they were doing the Lord's work with
the ruler.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
No, Andre, did you go to Catholic school?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Rob? I didn't.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
But hey, I'm from Jersey, you're from NYC. You know,
when you went to Catholic school, you told the line
and their and their point got across, and you learned
those very important lessons and you went forward and it
helped you in your life. So I think that's what
we need to remember in this Sometimes it does get
a little bit heated, but it's called football, and those
interactions are a lot of times what bonds people and
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create lifelong connections that people remember finally going forward. So
do it out of love and we can move forward.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Thanks taking a call, all right, appreciate it, all right, Dre,
appreciate it as always.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
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Just again, like Manti just gave you, keep an eye
on some of these scores that are going around right
now with the.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Dodgers had one first and third, did not score with
two outs? That or was it with one out? I
don't remember, but that first and third they didn't get in.
The Yankees are up in the bottom of the seventh.
We saw the Tigers hub yeah, put up big runs
at the end of the game. Yep, so the game
is not technically over your blooping the blast from getting
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back into the game, but time is running out. They
got nine outs left and here you go.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
They got some bats though.
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Speaker 6 (23:06):
What up?
Speaker 8 (23:08):
What up? What up? Man? How about them dollars?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I know right, it's gonna be. It should be a
good one to night see if they can pull it off. Hey,
put a button on this man. Josh Gannon, Cardinals coach
John I'm sorry, Jonathan Gannon him, run up on democado,
put his hand on him a couple of times. Some
people say, soft, get over it, man up, it's football.
Some people say, hey, hey, hey, let me put your
hands on me. You played the game college and in
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the pros.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Where are you with it?
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Don't put your hands on me, Sam, there you go.
We are grown men. Okay, let's let's let's look at
this from other other angles. If you were a parent
and a coach put his hands on your kids like that,
how are you gonna feel?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm with you, Like like, it's just not doable. These
days people used to get away with it. We're not
there anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
George would he would he have?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Bobby Knight?
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Yes, and and and imagine if you were a parent
and so and the coach did your kid like that
in college, you would be hot and and the and
the idea that people think, oh he's a professional, But
that's exactly why keep your hands to yourself. You you
have a right to be upset. He did he bot ball.
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Don't lay him yet. Let him whatever want to, but
keep your hands to yourself because if the player reacts,
it slaps his hand down. He's like, bro, get your
hands on me and and and it's people try people
in situations when they know they can get away with it.
I guarantee you when it did that Skyler act, you
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wouldn't have did it to uh, you know, to Marvin
Harrison Junior. Bet you wouldn't. I bet you he had
been scared that big big marbles.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Up, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yeah, you were the same page as Rob and I
and Rob g and Monci over there talking crazy.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Right, they are talking crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Other crazy talk is coming from u n CEE and
Bill Belichick that things the wheels are falling off. He's
maybe maybe thinking about taking a uh, you know, a
buy out, and and and this is a disaster. I
wasn't with this from Jump Street, right we we we
just couldn't see this thing working out. Where are you
on North Carolina? And what's happening here with Bill Belichick?
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Because it's a mess right now.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
It is absolutely a mess. And I talked to a
parent of a kid on that team today because I
was like, hold on, is there any truth to this?
He was like, absolutely, A man knows ball at the
highest level. And he's like that that Bill Belichick isn't
involved in the offense at all. They basically just give
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them the game, playing like, hey, let's go, and that
everybody in that building that that that might is the
biggest problem that that there's the big problem is also
that Bill Belichick is not cut out for college football.
He's not and that and hopefully he's not even cut
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out for the NFL right now. And it's actually sad
because of all the stuff that's going on going on
with Jordan and everything else. He looks like a and
and like an elder abuse case at this point point
in time where you're wondering what's going on? Is he
making his own decisions? Twice you need help. It's not
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it's not pretty in the idea that that he's like that.
One of the things about buyout is well, if he
can a soft land and spot at another coaching nobody
is giving him another job. There's a reason why the
NFL that we want anymore, and there's a reason why
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college football is now read because you can get up
with this all right. And just.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
The phone was messing up there a little bit. I
don't know, it's been messing up for a little bit here.
I don't know if yeah, I don't know, if you
had your shoulder on the phone or something.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But you go ahead, try it again.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Okay, can you am I good? Now? Yeah? Well yeah,
go ahead, oh okay, so yeah, you you can get
away full of arrogance and and just the defiance of
treating people right and all this stuff when you are winning.
But now that you're not winning, and you weren't winning
in New England last, it makes no sense. And it's
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funny because all of these universities keep trying to hire
these retread coaches and like, for instance, it looks like
John Gruden might be getting a job next. Dude, John
Gruden is the next failed former NFL coach because he
wasn't good with the Raiders last, and now all of
a sudd because he's getting you know, care packages from
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universities and posting it on social media. Now all of
a sudden, everybody thinks, oh my god, he might be
a great coach for college. No, it is going to
be a bad idea. And everybody talks about, oh man,
I want the next Dan Lanning. Well, when Oregon got
Dan Lanning, he was an assistant coach. It was a
low risk higher in terms of financially because you didn't
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have to commit Lincoln Riley money to him eleven ten
eleven million dollars a year, and you had somebody who
had a championship pedigree. But instead all these programs like,
oh I need a name, I need to be able
to sell it in the media. But that that doesn't
mean you get a good coach.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, well we'll get you.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Well the last one for me talking to me, what's
going on with Cleveland. I'm blown away that they can't
just man up and name it back up quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't care what you do or was.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I do want to hear, I do want to give
you this information.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh yeah, and this is from a reporter that I
know who work I respect, and and uh they say,
and I'm just gonna say that Shador will not be
the backup quarterback.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
And the reason and what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Is, quote from this reporter who I know, word on
the street is he's preparing poorly.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
It says, Shadeur isn't going to be number two.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
And quote word on the street is he he he is,
he's preparing poorly.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
And that's the reason why.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So, George, you hear that. Why won't they just say
why won't they say, hey, Zappi is our guy. We're excited,
you know, ready to go with Dayln Gabriel and Zappi
will be back at what's going on.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
This sounds like a case of and and and if
Rob says it, and Rob is one of the most
respected people in this game, so you so you have
to give some credence.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, and this and this is somebody who yeah, I'm
saying covers the NFL.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
I'm not got some fans.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
Yeah. But at the same time, this does feel like
a concerted effort for Cleveland, like they don't want him.
That's the thing about it is, if you don't want
to do her, if he's preparing so badly and everything,
just cut him, just cut him and get rid of them,
because it's silly to keep playing this this game. Oh
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let's keep them. Let's not keep them, blah blah blah.
It makes no sense. It makes the Cleveland Browns look
look bad. And then there are gonna be these leaked reports.
Oh well, it's because he's not preparing properly. And this okay,
So if he's doing all these things wrong, why is
he on your active roster and not on your practice
squad or why haven't you released him. Those are the
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things I.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Agree with you.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I've been saying that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I mean, I agree if he should be on the
practice squad or shouldn't be on the team, if he's
really not doing what he needs to be doing.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
But there's something there, because seriously, they've just refused. They
wouldn't give him snaps, do anything.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Exactly. They they they drafted him for whatever reason because
he was I guess, the best available player at that point.
But the owner didn't know on him. He's made it,
made it clear, and we know that Jimmy has them
is not one of the He's he's not just a
good human in general, as just just ask the truck
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drivers and in the prison and and and people in
prison with their phone calls. He ain't exactly a saint.
So he's not above doing something just because he either
hates Dion, hates Chador or some or something else. And
so I don't trust anything that's going on in Cleveland
as far as Shadoor Sanders goes. And when you do
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wrong things in life, when you treat people poorly, whether
whether it's Chaduur or the truck drivers or or anybody else,
you cannot get good results in life. And this is
why the Cleveland Browns has been a dumpster fire, because
the owner is impersonal dulster fire.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
All right, let us know how you really feel, George.
We appreciate it, man, Thank you so much, George. As always,
we'll talk again.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Appreciate it, yep.