October 23, 2018 • 43 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob are joined in-studio by Hall of Fame wide receiver Terrell Owens, and T.O. discussed the day he was unceremoniously cut by Jerry Jones as a member of the Cowboys, explained why he thinks Dallas' trade for Amari Cooper was an act of desperation, why he thinks he could easily still play in the NFL with the way the rules are structured, and even debated Chris and Rob over whether or not LeBron James deserves most of the blame for the Lakers 0-3 start to the season.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rob Harker. Man, we got
a special surprise for you, guys. We have a special
guest in the studio, none other than Hall of Fame
wide receiver Tarrell Owens Tarrell Man Teo. Welcome to The
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od Couple. Man, it's a pleasure to have you in here.
Thanks Man, I appreciate thanks very thank you guys for
having me. Man. Hey, well, I was gonna say Teo
came and spoke to my class at USC when was
that last semester Spring semester. The kids enjoyed it. He
was just honest and thorough. It was really good for
the kids. So I appreciate that when you did come out,
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and it's always pleasure to just chop it up with you. Well,
you know what I mean, that's what you're gonna get
from me is one thing is honesty. So I try
to be transparent, but it's done in a way, you
know where for me, you know, understanding, you know, kind
of the ups and downs of my career and what
you know, I just kind of kind of revisiting a
lot of things that I could have done, should have done,
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and helping a lot of those kids, you know that
are trying to get into the business, and again they'll
know how to better approach athletes because that's the profession
that they're trying to get in. So they know how
to you know, kind of position themselves to get the
responses that they need and really get in that the
athletes good graces. That's why I thought. That's why I
thought you were perfect for the class, because you've been
on both sides, you know, as a young reporter trying
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to figure out how you approach people, how you get
to know people. Because I always tell like, the one
of my big things is you don't approach people with
just notebooks or just when you need something, you know
what I mean, you walk up to people like this,
the cod in their face. That's not how you approach people.
And for me, like me starting out you know, as
a young kid, and just sometimes it's all about being
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given an opportunity. And I'm saying this and it's a
story behind this. When I was in San Francisco, I
don't remember what year it was, but there was this
little kid, he was in high school out there in
the California area. His name is Graham Ben Singer. So
he came up to me one of my games, you know,
he goes, man, I want to be a reporter. One day,
he goes, man, if I make it, when you give
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me an interview, So fast forward, I forgotten all about it.
So now I'm over in Philly. So he has I
think he went to Syracuse or something and and and
then he got on with ESPN and so he ran
into me again. He goes, man, you remember me, I'm
the kid that said, you know that I was gonna,
you know, be a reporter when you still give me
an interview. And I'm like, yeah, So I did the interview.
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And that's where everything kind of went down the heels
for me. When they did that interview. I did an
interview with him and he had obviously I think talked
to Michael Irvin at the time, and he had me
a question about Brett Farvan that far of what you
know was your quarterback at the time, because I was
playing with the Eagles, my quarterback, and I wasn't even
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thinking about He just said he had spoken to Michael
Irvan about our play coming off the Super Bowl run.
He goes, Yo, if you know, Michael Irvin said that
Brett Farr was your quarterback, you guys would be in
a better position. And so I wasn't even thinking. I'm like, yeah,
I said, I would agree with that assessment, I said,
being that at that time we were four and three.
I said, if Donovan wasn't hurt, we could easily be
six and one at the time. So that's that's how
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all of that stuff got off the tracks. And uh
and in Philadelphia was taking so they basically took the
first part of your quote right and then left out
the second, the second part, you know what I mean.
So again, you know that that's one of those things,
like you know, like I said that, you said, I've
been on both sides of it, and for me, like
I said, I know how sometimes it's all about an opportunity,
and and a lot of people out here that that
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need opportunities they're not giving it. Uh, they're not being
given those opportunities. So I was fortunate to really put
him in the situation obviously. You know, at that time,
I was at the height of my career, you know,
and he had just finished college or whatever. And I
lived up to my word. You know, that's me. That's me.
I'm a person. I try to be a person of integrity.
If I say something, then I try to stick by it.
Were there other misconceptions about your situation in Philadelphia? You
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feel it like, you know, people believe one thing and
it's totally different, or it's different at least. Oh yeah, absolutely.
I think the interview that I just spoke of, I
think the you know, the organization took soundbites from what
ESPN was putting on the TV, this and that and
the other. And then some of the leaders in the
locker room they had questioned me too, and so I
had They pulled me and pulled me to the side,
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and mainly notably Brian Dawkins. You know, he was kind
of upsetting. I said, Brian, I said, dude, I said,
I just came from a situation in Philly where, you know,
like I said, it wasn't good. So I'm not coming
over here to do or duplicate the same thing. I said.
That's not what I meant or what I said. I said,
they took what I said out of context. I said,
read the transcript. He read the transcript, and then he said,
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I see what they do. I apologize exactly. But they
because everybody had started coming at me, start looking at
me sideways, and I'm like, yo, this is not what
I came out over here to do. I said. They
have taken my words, spun them, taking them out of context,
and now you have this this whole bloom. Well, the
best part about doing radio with US Live is we're
not going to do that. But it's true. You we
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were writers before we start doing broadcasts, and I did
learn that. I mean, I could take what you say
and the context I put it in, like what I
write before and after can totally change what you said.
The headlines is an attention grabber, you know what I mean.
And that's what that's what media does. They get their
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attention from the headlines. I mean sometimes it can be
way off base just to get viewers the audience just
to read the article. Now I got to ask you
about there you know, it just came to my mind. Q.
I've heard a lot you guys had a fight, and
can you go over that situation way back in the
day when you guys are in that locker room. Man,
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it was it was a situation, honest that I was
just defending myself. And so I think he had some misconceptions,
you know, prior to me getting to the Philadelphia Eagles
and things started to happen, and so he started to
really look at me sideways, to think sideways based on
some of the things that were that had happened without
actually knowing me as a person. And so it was
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a situation where again Donovan had started to feel a
certain way about me, and he was feeling a certain
way because you know, people in the organization he felt
was treating me better than they were treating him. He's
been in that orgina for a number of years and
here I come one year and he feels like they
were rolling the red carpet out for me, or they
were giving me preferential treatment. So was jealousy, and it
was nothing like that, like I do. I remember when
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I first gave my press conference, I mentioned I said, look,
I came over here to help Philadelphia win get to
the Super Bowl. I said, I'm not trying to steal
anybody's lyne light, nobody's thunder, no nothing. I already knew
what I was bringing to the table. But for whatever reason,
as soon as I stepped on that field for the
first past that he threw to me eighty one yards,
I scored a testdown. We played the Ravens, the fans,
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the city embraced me like no other. Then I started
the first game of the season, we played the Giants,
I'm three touchdowns out the gate. Now they create the
chance to Yo Tyo. For whatever reason, he didn't like that,
and so now he started to have all these feelings.
You know, Like I said, I had nothing to do
with that. Let's let's switch to what's going on in
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the NFL here u Amari Cooper gets traded from the
Raiders to the Cowboys. First of all, a lot of
people think that Cowboys are desperate gave up a first
round pick, But I'm I guess I would ask you right.
The other part is, did deepest miscalculator misread their wide
receiver situation, went and went to ESPN to do Monday
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Night football, and they didn't bring back uh Brian without
even having like a somebody to take his spot. I mean,
what were they thinking? This? This this all this is
on the general manager. This is on the scouting. I mean,
I understand Jerry is the head huncher over there, but
when you start making, you know, decisions that's really going
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to decide, you know what's going to go on throughout
the course of the year, especially if you're you're trying
to get to at least get to the playoffs, at
least get back to that Dallas Cowboy team of of
of at least competing for a championship, because they're not
competing anymore. This is again, like I said, the evaluation
and the people that he's listening to are way off base.
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Um and I'm speaking Stephen Jones. Yeah, these guys. He
was like he was the general manager that got rid
of me. And it's funny. I had this conversation earlier
today with with some friends of mine because obviously the
Dallas Cowboys situation is a hot topic. Um again, I
had just I had just completed a three year, three
year stint there. I had just signed an extension for
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four years going into the following year. I had spoke
to Jerry Jones m a couple of months after the season,
and he asked me about what do we need to
do to get back to where the Caliboy Cowboys need
to be competing for a championship and those I mentioned
a few things here and there, and that I felt.
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I felt honored that he called me as obviously one
of the leaders to see what we need to do
to get back on track. And I shared some things
with him or what have you. It wasn't good or
bad um. And shortly after that, I'm living in Miami,
I get a call from my agent, Drew Rosenhaus. He
said that you know, um, Jerry and Stephen are in
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town for owners meeting up in Fort Lauderdale. They want
us to come by. And I'm like, all right, I'm like,
did you think anything of it? Now meet me? I
just thought it was, you know, to kind of elaborate
or piggyback on the conversation that I had two months earlier.
And so again that's when I we met him up there.
We went into a back restaurant and that's where they
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that's where they cut me. Is they give you any
explanation this? If I think I replayed a little bit
of this on my reality show. But we went into
one of the restaurants. It was obviously closed, it was late,
and uh, he asked the waiter or someone to bring
over a white tablecloth. So they brought over a white
white table there. No, no, it was just it was
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it was just me, Drew, um Um, Steven and Jerry
and so and I think it may have been I
think Jason may have been in at the other agent.
And so he put the cloth on the table and
Jerry pulled out a pin out of his his jacket
and he drew a line on the tablecloth with the pen,
and then he basically put Dallas Cowboys on one side,
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and then he put t over here what they put
Romo on one side, and he put t over on
the other side, and then he put Team on this side,
put Tea on this on this side, and then he
retraced the line. He goes, we need to part ways. Wow,
that's the way he did it. That's that's how I
got cut. And so I looked at Drew. I'm thinking
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this was like some joke. I'm looking for Ashton Cooter
to come up. You're getting punked or something. Right, this
should ever make sense? So again I I I didn't
understand it. They never really gave me. He didn't say
he just basically with what he wrote on that tablecloth.
That was his reason. He just felt like we were
a part and I wasn't a part of them moving forward.
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No wonder has been twenty five years since, so whatever,
what is the last time they won? Well? What do
you what do you think they got Amark Cooper? What
do you think of him as a receiver? Is he
gonna help see a number one? Yeah? I mean I
feel like with with what he did in in Oakland
last year, obviously we saw that the emergence of what
he could do. He's a he's a good receiver. He
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just needs to be put in a system where he's
able to flourish and and and and that's I don't
know if being in Dallas is the right place because
they have problems already. Um, I don't know if it's protection.
I don't know if it's you know, been nice. I
got a quarterback and that's what I thing. I don't
know if it's I was just about to say, I
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don't know if it's Dak being overrated. Um is he
when you see him, I think he don't. First of all,
I don't watch a lot of football, but I see
a lot of highlights. Right, I'm not. I'm a basketball guy.
I just played to watch more so it's basketball, your
favorite favorite sports. So I just played the game. Bro.
I'm very blessed and I'm to have accomplished a lot
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that I did. I'm very competitive, and that's anybody that
knows me, Like, if I put my mind to something,
I'm to compete, Like that competitive edge is gonna take
me over. What you would? You haven't watched the full
football game since you retired, have you? Um? I did
the first couple of weeks because I trained with Julio
Jones over the summer and he touch that exactly. What
what is that? If you look at the if you
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if you can recall the first game, that's coaching too
because they get into the red zone for the very
first time and they don't even have him on the field.
That doesn't make any sense when you have a top guy,
top caliber guy. Um, you know who who's Who's catch
radius is out of this world and you don't put
him in the first time the first game of the season.
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What kind of messenger are you sending to anybody not
only your team, but your organization, your fan base, but
across the league. You just lost the Super Bowl two
years ago. Being conservative, yes, yeah, you know what I mean.
I think you want you want to have somebody like Hulio.
You create opportunities. There was a stat out there that
since his last touchdowns, ninety other players have called touchdowns
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in the NFL. This guy, how in the world could
he not having really scored and I think the second
game of the seedy he scored three touchdowns in one
game more he tied what he did last year. Ye.
When you look at the league, it is one to
nothing Boston, just like that, in two batters, one to
nothing Boston already. Wow. Be sure to catch live editions
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of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard then Rob Parker
weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app t O. When
you look at the league, there's a lot of talk
about the defensive rule, you know, the changes in the rules.
You can't really hit receivers down field. You obviously can't
really hit the quarterback, which is how well, yeah, what
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do you think about the way the game is being played. Now,
Obviously these numbers you can't even compare them. So when
you were certainly early in the first of all, if
I'm playing in today's game and they're protecting the quarterback
like they're protecting them as a player, I'm pissed off
because how can you How are you trying to prolong
or protect this guy who's a football player. You're prolonging
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his career, but you just don't care about microL nobody else.
So you see, not just as a defensive player, I'm
talking about a player peer That should dude, that should
tick everybody off that you're and these are the guys.
And again you think about these quarterbacks that are getting
paid one hundred eighty two hundred million. They're not standing
up for these guys that are not making that much money,
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but they're being protected to make the most money that
they can make. And these other players, they're not even
giving the opportunity to even get guaranteed contracts. Players. But
that's your unions, but the players. But they the players
got power, but they don't use is. All they gotta
do is not played. All they gotta do is call
each other, Look, guys, this is what we're gonna do.
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But these guys are too afraid. I tell people all
the time, you know what, you know, when baseball players
they stop the World Series, you stop one Super Bowl,
I'm telling you ain't even got to stop to say
you can stop right now. They can get together right now,
right now, they can stop right now, stop playing like
there's always the thought you need to stop in the
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off season. But you're right, if they stop now, can
you imagine it's actually probably be stronger if you stop
during Nobody anyways, I say the super footballer is all
that money could lead to. That's I'm right, That's what
I'm saying. These players need to understand. Like and I
and a lot of these players start chirping on on
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all the social media because they're seeing all the money
that's being paid to baseball players, basketball players players, you
can do the same. You can get paid the same way.
You got ten baseball players who make about three hundred
million dollars guarantee that all they gotta do is get
stick together. They have more power and leverage than they
think they got. They the owners don't own them. They
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have to understand that and That's why in this whole
Colin Kaepernick situation, they feel threat. A lot of people
want to support Colin. Quiet is killed as soon as
they right exactly as soon as they step out on
a limb to support them. They know at some point
their job is gonna But if everybody, you can't get
rid of everybody. I know, but I'm saying it takes everybody.
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It takes a village. Did you when you were in
the league did you try to talk to some of
the player leaders about, look, we need to do this differently,
we need to unite or anything like that, and it's
just a lot of guys talk about it. But it
has to be obviously, it has to be done the
right way. These guys need. I mean, you have guys
that are president you know, of the union and the
presidents of teams or what have you. It starts with
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those guys like you're Malcolm Jenkins. You know, it starts
with those guys. Those guys are smart enough to know, like, bro,
if we stick together, this is what we can have.
You talk about the two hundred me like guaranteed contracts.
It's around the corner. I'm telling it. It's around the corner.
But a lot of guys they don't want to sacrifice
because again, a lot of guys don't manage budget their
money the right way. You've seen the number. But the
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thing is they feel like that if if they strike,
they feel like it's going to be like two three years.
Trust me, it may not be two three weeks because
there is so much money at stake. It's the eye
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The only hard part is figuring out which way is easier.
And I know he wants to get the basket. Yeah yeah,
real quick. I just could you hit? Did you Did
you play baseball? Man? I wish I can steal some bases.
I'm still fast, still fast. Did you play in high school?
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Could you play high school? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I was decent. Yeah,
so when did you like? What kind of basketball player
were you in high school? Um? I was average, I
wasn't weren't as good as I wasn't know. I was
better basketball than I was football in high school. I
know you went to Tennessee State. I went to Tennessee
Chat and I walked on. I walked on the basketball
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team outter my freshman year. UM. Buddy Knicks was the
head coach my freshman year. UM, and he did. He
had this this thing where he didn't allow players that
got recruited to play other sports. So he end up
getting fired. So the next coach that came in, Tommy West. UM,
I think he came over from Clemson. UM, so we didn't.
I want to total thirteen games my entire college career.
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So huh, so you played basketball Tennessee right, so my
mold sports you won thirteen games or just basketball? No,
just football? Total football. I total thirteen games and four years.
So after my sophomore year, you know, I asked. I
went to the office and I asked coach if I
could play basketball, And he goes, well, why would you
want to play basketball? He goes, those guys are pretty good.
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He they're recruited to play basketball. I said, I love it.
You know, that's what I that's what I like to do.
He goes, I don't have a problem. He goes, if
you can go on, walk on to our our basketball team,
He goes, that'll tell me what type of athletes you are.
And so again I played three probably thought you weren't
gonna make it. Did you get much playing time? Yeah?
I started. I even started, like uh my, I started
like four, like five to six games one my high
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school one of my actually my college coach, basketball coach,
Matt McCarthy. He spoke at my Hall of Fame induction.
So if you had had the choice, you would have
went to the NBA over there, no doubt about it. Absolutely.
It's funny. We just had Dave Winfield on and Dave
Winfield I don't know if you noticed too, but he
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was drafted by four different leagues. That's what kind of
athlete he was. So he's drafted in football with the
Minnesota Vikings, he was drafted by the San Diego Padres
in baseball, and then he was drafted in the NBA
and the ABA. He actually had he had all four
and he picked baseball. Want to play in twenty years
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and being a Hall of Famer. So that's interesting that
that basketball was really your number one. Yeah, I mean
I love it. I still play it today. I'm very competitive.
A lot of people trip out now at how I'm
able to move around and maintain my level of condition
where it is. I mean, it's not the greatest, but
it's not the worst either. Like I said, I mean,
people ask me now. They saw I went up to
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the Bay Area over the weekend for the San Francisco
Alumni Weekend, and some people were looking at me, like, man,
you look like you can still play. I mean, with
the way the game is being played now, there's no
doubt that I can play Murmber. How much easier you
feel because when you played, obviously you could get lit
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up by a defensive back. How much easier do you
think it is for a receiver nowadays? Then when you played, um,
it's it's a little bit easier. That's why you see
the the inflation of the number of the numbers crazy,
you know, versus when we played. That's because of you know,
the rules that they've implemented within the first five yards
and then obviously ten yards down the field. Soon as
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you get chucked or whatever, it's it's a flag. And
so again with my knowledge of the game, like I said,
I know, like just knowing how to run certain routes.
Bro I could get open easy. Um. I know I
was watching some games, uh some highlights um of San Francisco,
and I saw Pierre Garson, uh run some rounds like man,
I could have run that route. I mean some guys
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know they I don't even know how some of these
guys still have jobs, to be honest, because I know
I'm I'm I'm positive I can go out right now
and make an impact with a number of plays you know,
scripted um for me to be you know, advantageous to
a squad. I mean you look at like some of
these guys. They're not playing sixty seventy five snaps. I
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don't need to. I don't need to play that many either.
I need to play certain downs and distances, certain packages.
You get me in the red zone, I'm a threat, right,
you get me on the side of somebody like a
Julio just think about it. I just think I put
insert me with the Atlanta Falcons. They have some new
they have Ridley, they got they got the best receiving corps.
What they got, Julio Jones. They're not They're not good though. No,
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I'm just saying the third, three and four. Now I
think they should be better than they should be. What
I'm saying right, they should be. Jay, I got one
more football question, Jalen Ramsey. You know, been talking a
lot and their defense is kind of falling off the
map lately. Who who was the defensive back or backs? Like,
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did any talk a lot of trash to you? Like
when you played where they're those they talked a lot
of trash. No, there wasn't a lot of guys question
trash talking Tuesday, right, But DeAngelo tried to do that.
He was one of those guys. You know a lot
of these guys. Yeah, they try to emulate, you know,
prime time some people. He has it, you know, and
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everybody don't have it, right. Everybody doesn't have that playmak
ability where you can talk and then you back it up.
You know, they wouldn't even throw the ball his side
of the field. That's a totally different animal. So a
lot of guys that they didn't they talked it when
you know there they got microphones in them in the
face in the locker room, but not a lot of
them did it on the field in person. And so
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for me, a lot of people thought I talked a
lot of trash while I was on the football field. Now,
if you look at most of my my sound bites,
they were on the sideline, you know what I mean.
And I knew the matchups of who I had to
play against every week. I knew the guys that were
supposed to be the top guys in the league around
that time. Um, you talk about your Champ Baileys, you
talk about your Charles Woodson, your dre Bligs. These are
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guys that wanted to emulate Prime Time. They wanted to
be the shut down corners. For me, that was a
challenge because I came out of you Tea Chattanooga. Um,
I wasn't thought of of of a burner. I wasn't
that that that that type of go to guy. So
I really that's what I did. I worked to create
a name for myself. I wanted to be a threat,
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and I played with Jerry. I saw what Jerry was
able to do throughout the course of his career. I
must have been cool, though, playing with a guy like yeah,
you guys from smaller schools, right, he demanded that attention.
I saw that with my own eyes. I watched the
practice habits I had heard about it. I watched the film.
I watched game film. Dude, I would go there would
be games that we would lose at three or win
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or what have you. Um at Kendel State Park, I
would go back to the back to the stadium, not
to the stadium, but to our practice facility, just to
watch film on what to see what could I have
done better, or you know, try to correct the mistakes
that I made. Those are some of the things that
I did. You know, I'm beknown to a lot of
people that helped, you know, prepare my career. Right. Matt
Kemp just went deep in Finnway Park to pull the
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Dodgers within one. They're now down two one to the
Boston Red Sox. That's a big blow. They needed that
after somebody on the radio today predict Matt Kemp going
deeply for the Green minds up. Matt come back years
look like he was finished. He had a great year
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for the Dodgers, and he cooled down in the second half.
But that's a big blow, just to take the steam
off Chris Sale. Chris Sale was sailing along and uh,
it's only the second inning. That's that's t o. I
don't know if you know, Rob is like an aspiring comedian.
I'm gonna go on, I'm gonna do five minutes. I'm
(25:53):
ready to go. He's gotten advice from our Seneo Hall.
He's gonna walk me out and present me on the stage.
So I'm I'm gonna do it one day. I'll let
you know. Come come hang out, listeners. This might be
the end of Rob Parker. This might be the end
of Rob Parkers. CEO knows how corny you come on? Well, Tel,
(26:14):
you heard Rob's take on the Lakers. It's Lebron's fault
that they're owing three. So what do you What do
you think about the Lakers right now? They're they're they're
trying to find themselves. They're trying to find some identity,
obviously if they addressed the toughness part. But I think
what they lack, and I think a lot of people
that are listening um would agree, is that the perimeter shooting. Um,
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it's been very dismal as of late, and it's gonna
be just like they don't have they don't really have
any like any pure shooters. If you think about where
he came from with the Cleveland Cavaliers, they had some
shooters even with j R. Smith Smith, but he exactly right,
and you had it doesn't matter, but but you still
were shooters. They were shooting exactly with also with Kevin
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love Ye, you had you had cover. That does I
think they didn't address that part of their offseason moves
as far as the perimeter shooting these concerns. Yeah, So
I wouldn't say that that's that's not Lebron's fault. He
can't make them shoot. But tyo, this is the part
that I think fans will will start to couch question
(27:22):
a little bit. Did you come here to win championships
or you're here to like retire and work on your
career If that's okay. If they're gonna question anybody, don't
question Lebron. Who brought Lebron over here? Magic? Okay, So
now you got a question manage. But I just wonder
if if when you see Lebron with all and don't
get me wrong, I know you could do more than
one thing at one time, but there was so many
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like deals and all this other stuff outside and he's dude,
whether he does it now or four years from now,
Hollywood's gonna welcome Lebron. James no matter what, do you
agree with that? I get that. But again he again,
obviously he has whatever it is that made him come here.
He only he knows that. Obviously, his reason is to
(28:08):
really help the development of these younger guys. You saw
the development and improvement at the end of the end
of last year that they made the strikes good josh
it's not even starting right now, he's gonna be exactly
so again KCP, he's not shooting the ball like he
should be. They got, like I said, they've addressed the
(28:31):
toughness with Joshua. Would you would you put Harden and
start him? And yes, again, they're gonna find some rotations
that fit them. Right now. It's early. There's no need
to panic. I understand that. Yeah, it would be greater,
Yeah if they started out, you know, but this is
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this and when you with Lebron, when you do all
the other things off the court, you better ball. And
he's playing well, but he's not playing up to Lebron
James standards, right, And that's what's gonna lead to skeptics.
If you if you're doing all this stuff in Hollywood,
but you're not playing, you're not knocking down James k right,
(29:15):
we'll get to that. But what he what is he
doing in Hollywood? That's a shop that's on HBO. He's
about to do Space Jam in a little while, Space
Jam two, But that's that's on his downtime. And I'm
with you, you can do plenty of I mean, Shock
did Cauzam because that's not but he may rap albums,
(29:37):
you know, I agree to you know, you can do
other things. And see what I'm saying is when you
do other things, if you don't play at your level.
You know what I'm saying. People are gonna say, well,
hold on, Well, I think that's all I'm saying. I
think he's very self aware of his production, what he
needs to do, what he doesn't need to do, and
if that's taking a precedent or a priority over his
(30:00):
basketball obligations, I don't think we've gotten to that point.
Everybody is speculating because this is what Hollywood. Hollywood does.
But they are speculating until until we see a tremendous
drop off in his production. Again, that's all it is,
because they have nothing else to talk about. When you've
got people like Rod Parker out there throwing out But
(30:23):
we only got a few seconds left before we go
to the break. My problem is in the Western Conference,
you fall too far behind. You're gonna be You're gonna
be in the second half of the of the division
and you'll be playing on the road and you could
get knocked out because you're playing Golden State. Understand Okay,
that's all I'm saying. I guarantee he understands. Those are
the things I'm talking about. I will continue this conversation
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So til let's get to it. We were talking about
Lebron and the Lakers this year. All time, there's always
the debate of Lebron or Michael Jordan, and even Lebron
or Kobe Bryant. So I want to put you on
the spot. Let's go Lebron Kobe first. Kobe? Really, wow,
(31:55):
all right, you didn't even hesitate, didn't Noah, you didn't hesitate,
So go ahead. Honestly, I I am. I am with
what Lebron has done. It's it's amazing, like he might
be the best athlete that we've ever seen, you know,
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especially to do. I mean you talk about size, speed,
you know, able to play every position one through five
like that. It's almost like he's in a class of
it of his own. When you start comparing you know,
him and Kobe, him and Michael, it's a it's it's
a little bit sketchy. Well because when you start factoring
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in championships into it. Michael, I think when people have
witnessed what Michael does and how he did it just
with the flair. You know that if the if if
if they need a bucket, if it's a clutch shot,
I don't know what the percentage is of him making
that shot, but I I think it's it's it's it's
kind of high. You ask somebody, if you have somebody
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is actually right there with Jordan. I'm telling you what
the really what the perception. No perception is you would
give the ball a mike if you if you ask
basketball fans, who would you give the ball to for
the last shot, I guarantee you eighty percent or would
say Michael Jordan. But the perception is that because when
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Michael Jordan played, and I'm a Jordan guy, I think
George's the goat. So I'm not just credit him. I'm
just saying the reason there's that perception. There's even the
perception that Kobe was better than the clutch than Lebron,
But percentage wise, the stats don't show that. It's because Lebron. Now,
I mean, you didn't have these twenty four hour a
day talk shows. No, no, you didn't have twenty four
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seven sports talk radio. So with Lebron, I mean, like
last night that's a meaningless game, okay, But everybody's been
talking about Michael Jordan played. We didn't know. We really
didn't look at his you know, a Tuesday night game
in January in Utah where he might have missed the
game winner. It wasn't talked about like this, so we
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don't remember that stuff. Like I'm addressed the meaningless game.
It may be meaningless to some people, but when you
when you have when you're down by one and you
get filed and you expected to go to the free
throw line and make clutch shots, being the greatest right
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you have to deliver in those even in a meaningless game.
I say meanings because it's early in the season. We've
seen Kobe with a torn achilles but go to the
line and make two free But we've also seen Kobe
in the same situation as Lebron last night missed two
and Jordan they both did. They were people were tweeting
it on Twitter last night, videos of win, but don't
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remember the clips. But they missed. They lost because they
were in the same situation exactly. They missed the two
free I want to see. I want to know the
end result. Did they win or they lose? Did they
but they did miss two free Because I'm with you,
I do think last night, if I got Kobe Bryant
at the line, I'm betting he makes one, at least one,
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at least one. I am saying it happened where we
can't say Kobe never would have done that, because he
did it. But this is this is where Kobe, this
is where Kobe's downgraded for me just a little. There's
two things that just can't I can't shake. Number one,
Shack was the most dominant player in the league at
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that time when when they won those three championships. So
that's nothing that that Kobe didn't play or it wasn't
the great player, but Shack was the best player, right Yeah, Okay.
At number two, the one thing that that Kobe did
against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs as he quit
on his team in the game and you know the
game I'm talking about a Game seven where he was
(35:55):
mad used to shoot because everybody, everybody was too much
in Game six and you know that Teo Kobe. For
a guy like Kobe to give up and not go
out knowing his team couldn't win to prove a point,
I thought that was the local part of his career
and they lost that series. Do you remember that I remember,
(36:15):
you know what I mean? Yeah, most people don't want
to remember if I remember vaguely, Yeah, I mean that's
that's selfish. That's selfish. That's selfish. And again, like I said,
we've all been in certain moments like that. But when
I bet you if you could do it over again,
he would never do Yeah. But when when you start
comparing you know, these three individuals, there's a lot of
variables that that that takes takes place. Who your order,
(36:38):
if the thing is, it's it's the eras in which
these guys played in Obviously, I think Kobe and Lebron
they kind of shared the same uh same er. Yeah.
But it's just like when you talk about championships, in
the manner in which it was done. I think that's
what people resonate with because they think about the killer
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instinct of the Michael Jordan, that Kobe Bryant. It's the
manner in which they do it, you know what I mean.
I don't think and this maybe this is just the
way Lebron plays. It's the way he grew up. He
wanted to be an all around type of player. So
he wasn't he wasn't all about just really dominating the game,
just individually scoring, right. So he tries to possess every
(37:23):
little intangible that he can to magnify who he is today,
no doubt about it. But there moments when I I'm
frustrated by him because I know nobody can stop him
in the pain or post up or nobody can stop him,
yet he still would rather pass to somebody cross court
where you know, in situations and and and have somebody
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else take the big shot. And that's what frustrates people
about Lebron. Not that people we haven't seen him make
some big shots, but there are times you would just say,
you're the best guy, right, the best player in the planet. Dude.
Well check this stat out all right, game time field
goals or I'm sorry, game time or go ahead field
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goals under ten seconds left in the playoffs. Okay, just playoffs,
not regular season. Michael Jordan's seven for fifteen forty seven percent,
Kobe Bryant five for twenty two, twenty three percent, Lebron
James twelve for twenty three. I'm tell you the perception,
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Like I said, look everything now we see every blemish
on Lebron's record, whether it's a regular season game in
July January or whether it's a playoff game. We didn't
see Michael Jordan had nights in the finals where he
shot like thirty seven percent in the game, and we
don't remember. I get that, no doubt about when everyone
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you didn't have a show first take unders at break everything, recamp,
every but this is who hours to break right, This
is what I would like to see. I'd like to
see making the big shot with your team down. Because
Lebron made two shots this year right when the score
was tied, even last night. Pressure last No, No, that
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was to tie the game. I give me that. That's
a make. But the ones where his team is it's
a tie game and it's either you're gonna make the
shot to go to overtime. There's no pressure on that shot.
It's a good make, but it's not a pressure. Make.
You know that if I miss it, we're still going
over time. But if you're down, I would like to
see when you're down and need somebody to make a bucket,
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I guarantee you Michael has better numb. Here's my thing
with Kobe two and look Kobe's an all time great,
top ten all that, But I think you nitpick when
you're talking about all time greats, like we were talking
to you about you, Randy Moss, Jerry, you nitpicking little things.
All are great, right, but Kobe wasn't nearly as efficient
as Mike and Lebron. Like, Kobe never shot forty seven
(40:04):
percent from the floor. He was always forty six and under.
And that's where Shock drawn double and triple teams for
eight years. But that's big, you know that, because that
means you you gotta take more shots to get your points,
and that can affect your team mat That's that's because
Kobe's a high volume. And what you're talking about with
Kobe his percentage being terrible. I guarantee you if he
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and Kobe had to take those shots because he felt
like he needed to take those shots in order to win.
So just think if if if Lebron took the same approach,
his numbers probably wouldn't be as great. I don't think so.
Are you kidding me? Because Lebron? First of all, Lebron
scores more points than Kobe, Like his career average is
hired than Kobe's. But I ain't like he don't shoot.
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Kobe just wasn't as efficient of a score. And like
you said, he had shock. It ain't like he had
to take some of those shots. But even when he
didn't have shock, when he had when he was the man,
he had to take shots. He was a high volume shooter.
But he only even started winning again once he got
on shot what Jerry West did the Oki doke and
(41:10):
got them power Kassol because when he had when he
was playing with Smush Parker and the Cosby kids, it
wasn't a pretty sight, right remember, And that's almost like
what Lebron is dealing with right now. Right, so let's see,
let's see what Lebron like, Yeah, what can you do
with it? Exactly? That's the same situation Lebron is in
right now. And again it's early for a lot of
(41:31):
the Los Angeles Laker fans out there, it's early. Again,
he's processing everything. Trust me. They were a couple of
shots away from every game that they've been to winning
though they could easily be three. And oh, let me
ask you this, tho. If you're a teammate on the
Lakers and Lebron, you saw the fight between Rondo and
(41:51):
Chris Paul and Lebron you know, coddle Chris Paul right
arm around him. And then today, now we know they're
best friends. Today Rondo comes out and says, you know,
Chris Paul, do we have the sound of that? Rondo
comes out today and says, Chris Paul's you know, not
a good guy. Everybody thinks he's this or that, but
he's really the league is uh yeah, the league. So
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what do you think as a teammate of the Lakers,
are you wondering where Lebron stands or are you you know,
is that how you get it? Because you know prior
to this incident that they're best friends. Well, I think
in this situation, I like the approach or Lebron. I mean,
if he gets in there and mix it, mixes it
up and get suspended, then they really right that. So
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he was being a media mediator pretty much a peacemaker
in this situation because, like I said, he has to
police this situation accordingly, you know what I mean. Get regardless,
even if he wanted to retaliate and have his team
teams back it does, it's not gonna cry. He's not
gonna serve any the organization any get any good will
by going mixing it up, getting suspended with along with them.
(43:02):
Right then, it's so I think he did the right
thing based on what I saw. I'm with it. I
had no problem with it. I don't think you need
to look at I don't. I don't think you need
to question you know, whether he has your back or not.
I think I think those guys know that. If it
was if it was like he came down and like
(43:22):
got into uh Brendan Ingram's face like what are you
doing man? Or something like yeah, yeah, taking it like
he just kept him away from the squam, right, which
is the right thing to do, absolutely all right, Well,
the eye couple, we've been joined by the great Hall
of Famer Tarrell Owens. Got to do it again, absolute
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rob Harker. Man, we got
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(00:42):
od Couple. Man, it's a pleasure to have you in here.
Thanks Man, I appreciate thanks very thank you guys for
having me. Man. Hey, well, I was gonna say Teo
came and spoke to my class at USC when was
that last semester Spring semester. The kids enjoyed it. He
was just honest and thorough. It was really good for
the kids. So I appreciate that when you did come out,
(01:04):
and it's always pleasure to just chop it up with you. Well,
you know what I mean, that's what you're gonna get
from me is one thing is honesty. So I try
to be transparent, but it's done in a way, you
know where for me, you know, understanding, you know, kind
of the ups and downs of my career and what
you know, I just kind of kind of revisiting a
lot of things that I could have done, should have done,
(01:24):
and helping a lot of those kids, you know that
are trying to get into the business, and again they'll
know how to better approach athletes because that's the profession
that they're trying to get in. So they know how
to you know, kind of position themselves to get the
responses that they need and really get in that the
athletes good graces. That's why I thought. That's why I
thought you were perfect for the class, because you've been
on both sides, you know, as a young reporter trying
(01:45):
to figure out how you approach people, how you get
to know people. Because I always tell like, the one
of my big things is you don't approach people with
just notebooks or just when you need something, you know
what I mean, you walk up to people like this,
the cod in their face. That's not how you approach people.
And for me, like me starting out you know, as
a young kid, and just sometimes it's all about being
(02:08):
given an opportunity. And I'm saying this and it's a
story behind this. When I was in San Francisco, I
don't remember what year it was, but there was this
little kid, he was in high school out there in
the California area. His name is Graham Ben Singer. So
he came up to me one of my games, you know,
he goes, man, I want to be a reporter. One day,
he goes, man, if I make it, when you give
(02:28):
me an interview, So fast forward, I forgotten all about it.
So now I'm over in Philly. So he has I
think he went to Syracuse or something and and and
then he got on with ESPN and so he ran
into me again. He goes, man, you remember me, I'm
the kid that said, you know that I was gonna,
you know, be a reporter when you still give me
an interview. And I'm like, yeah, So I did the interview.
(02:50):
And that's where everything kind of went down the heels
for me. When they did that interview. I did an
interview with him and he had obviously I think talked
to Michael Irvin at the time, and he had me
a question about Brett Farvan that far of what you
know was your quarterback at the time, because I was
playing with the Eagles, my quarterback, and I wasn't even
(03:10):
thinking about He just said he had spoken to Michael
Irvan about our play coming off the Super Bowl run.
He goes, Yo, if you know, Michael Irvin said that
Brett Farr was your quarterback, you guys would be in
a better position. And so I wasn't even thinking. I'm like, yeah,
I said, I would agree with that assessment, I said,
being that at that time we were four and three.
I said, if Donovan wasn't hurt, we could easily be
six and one at the time. So that's that's how
(03:32):
all of that stuff got off the tracks. And uh
and in Philadelphia was taking so they basically took the
first part of your quote right and then left out
the second, the second part, you know what I mean.
So again, you know that that's one of those things,
like you know, like I said that, you said, I've
been on both sides of it, and for me, like
I said, I know how sometimes it's all about an opportunity,
and and a lot of people out here that that
(03:53):
need opportunities they're not giving it. Uh, they're not being
given those opportunities. So I was fortunate to really put
him in the situation obviously. You know, at that time,
I was at the height of my career, you know,
and he had just finished college or whatever. And I
lived up to my word. You know, that's me. That's me.
I'm a person. I try to be a person of integrity.
If I say something, then I try to stick by it.
Were there other misconceptions about your situation in Philadelphia? You
(04:16):
feel it like, you know, people believe one thing and
it's totally different, or it's different at least. Oh yeah, absolutely.
I think the interview that I just spoke of, I
think the you know, the organization took soundbites from what
ESPN was putting on the TV, this and that and
the other. And then some of the leaders in the
locker room they had questioned me too, and so I
had They pulled me and pulled me to the side,
(04:38):
and mainly notably Brian Dawkins. You know, he was kind
of upsetting. I said, Brian, I said, dude, I said,
I just came from a situation in Philly where, you know,
like I said, it wasn't good. So I'm not coming
over here to do or duplicate the same thing. I said.
That's not what I meant or what I said. I said,
they took what I said out of context. I said,
read the transcript. He read the transcript, and then he said,
(05:02):
I see what they do. I apologize exactly. But they
because everybody had started coming at me, start looking at
me sideways, and I'm like, yo, this is not what
I came out over here to do. I said. They
have taken my words, spun them, taking them out of context,
and now you have this this whole bloom. Well, the
best part about doing radio with US Live is we're
not going to do that. But it's true. You we
(05:23):
were writers before we start doing broadcasts, and I did
learn that. I mean, I could take what you say
and the context I put it in, like what I
write before and after can totally change what you said.
The headlines is an attention grabber, you know what I mean.
And that's what that's what media does. They get their
(05:47):
attention from the headlines. I mean sometimes it can be
way off base just to get viewers the audience just
to read the article. Now I got to ask you
about there you know, it just came to my mind. Q.
I've heard a lot you guys had a fight, and
can you go over that situation way back in the
day when you guys are in that locker room. Man,
(06:07):
it was it was a situation, honest that I was
just defending myself. And so I think he had some misconceptions,
you know, prior to me getting to the Philadelphia Eagles
and things started to happen, and so he started to
really look at me sideways, to think sideways based on
some of the things that were that had happened without
actually knowing me as a person. And so it was
(06:27):
a situation where again Donovan had started to feel a
certain way about me, and he was feeling a certain
way because you know, people in the organization he felt
was treating me better than they were treating him. He's
been in that orgina for a number of years and
here I come one year and he feels like they
were rolling the red carpet out for me, or they
were giving me preferential treatment. So was jealousy, and it
was nothing like that, like I do. I remember when
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I first gave my press conference, I mentioned I said, look,
I came over here to help Philadelphia win get to
the Super Bowl. I said, I'm not trying to steal
anybody's lyne light, nobody's thunder, no nothing. I already knew
what I was bringing to the table. But for whatever reason,
as soon as I stepped on that field for the
first past that he threw to me eighty one yards,
I scored a testdown. We played the Ravens, the fans,
(07:13):
the city embraced me like no other. Then I started
the first game of the season, we played the Giants,
I'm three touchdowns out the gate. Now they create the
chance to Yo Tyo. For whatever reason, he didn't like that,
and so now he started to have all these feelings.
You know, Like I said, I had nothing to do
with that. Let's let's switch to what's going on in
(07:36):
the NFL here u Amari Cooper gets traded from the
Raiders to the Cowboys. First of all, a lot of
people think that Cowboys are desperate gave up a first
round pick, But I'm I guess I would ask you right.
The other part is, did deepest miscalculator misread their wide
receiver situation, went and went to ESPN to do Monday
(07:58):
Night football, and they didn't bring back uh Brian without
even having like a somebody to take his spot. I mean,
what were they thinking? This? This this all this is
on the general manager. This is on the scouting. I mean,
I understand Jerry is the head huncher over there, but
when you start making, you know, decisions that's really going
(08:21):
to decide, you know what's going to go on throughout
the course of the year, especially if you're you're trying
to get to at least get to the playoffs, at
least get back to that Dallas Cowboy team of of
of at least competing for a championship, because they're not
competing anymore. This is again, like I said, the evaluation
and the people that he's listening to are way off base.
(08:43):
Um and I'm speaking Stephen Jones. Yeah, these guys. He
was like he was the general manager that got rid
of me. And it's funny. I had this conversation earlier
today with with some friends of mine because obviously the
Dallas Cowboys situation is a hot topic. Um again, I
had just I had just completed a three year, three
year stint there. I had just signed an extension for
(09:04):
four years going into the following year. I had spoke
to Jerry Jones m a couple of months after the season,
and he asked me about what do we need to
do to get back to where the Caliboy Cowboys need
to be competing for a championship and those I mentioned
a few things here and there, and that I felt.
(09:24):
I felt honored that he called me as obviously one
of the leaders to see what we need to do
to get back on track. And I shared some things
with him or what have you. It wasn't good or
bad um. And shortly after that, I'm living in Miami,
I get a call from my agent, Drew Rosenhaus. He
said that you know, um, Jerry and Stephen are in
(09:45):
town for owners meeting up in Fort Lauderdale. They want
us to come by. And I'm like, all right, I'm like,
did you think anything of it? Now meet me? I
just thought it was, you know, to kind of elaborate
or piggyback on the conversation that I had two months earlier.
And so again that's when I we met him up there.
We went into a back restaurant and that's where they
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that's where they cut me. Is they give you any
explanation this? If I think I replayed a little bit
of this on my reality show. But we went into
one of the restaurants. It was obviously closed, it was late,
and uh, he asked the waiter or someone to bring
over a white tablecloth. So they brought over a white
white table there. No, no, it was just it was
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it was just me, Drew, um Um, Steven and Jerry
and so and I think it may have been I
think Jason may have been in at the other agent.
And so he put the cloth on the table and
Jerry pulled out a pin out of his his jacket
and he drew a line on the tablecloth with the pen,
and then he basically put Dallas Cowboys on one side,
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and then he put t over here what they put
Romo on one side, and he put t over on
the other side, and then he put Team on this side,
put Tea on this on this side, and then he
retraced the line. He goes, we need to part ways. Wow,
that's the way he did it. That's that's how I
got cut. And so I looked at Drew. I'm thinking
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this was like some joke. I'm looking for Ashton Cooter
to come up. You're getting punked or something. Right, this
should ever make sense? So again I I I didn't
understand it. They never really gave me. He didn't say
he just basically with what he wrote on that tablecloth.
That was his reason. He just felt like we were
a part and I wasn't a part of them moving forward.
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No wonder has been twenty five years since, so whatever,
what is the last time they won? Well? What do
you what do you think they got Amark Cooper? What
do you think of him as a receiver? Is he
gonna help see a number one? Yeah? I mean I
feel like with with what he did in in Oakland
last year, obviously we saw that the emergence of what
he could do. He's a he's a good receiver. He
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just needs to be put in a system where he's
able to flourish and and and and that's I don't
know if being in Dallas is the right place because
they have problems already. Um, I don't know if it's protection.
I don't know if it's you know, been nice. I
got a quarterback and that's what I thing. I don't
know if it's I was just about to say, I
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don't know if it's Dak being overrated. Um is he
when you see him, I think he don't. First of all,
I don't watch a lot of football, but I see
a lot of highlights. Right, I'm not. I'm a basketball guy.
I just played to watch more so it's basketball, your
favorite favorite sports. So I just played the game. Bro.
I'm very blessed and I'm to have accomplished a lot
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that I did. I'm very competitive, and that's anybody that
knows me, Like, if I put my mind to something,
I'm to compete, Like that competitive edge is gonna take
me over. What you would? You haven't watched the full
football game since you retired, have you? Um? I did
the first couple of weeks because I trained with Julio
Jones over the summer and he touch that exactly. What
what is that? If you look at the if you
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if you can recall the first game, that's coaching too
because they get into the red zone for the very
first time and they don't even have him on the field.
That doesn't make any sense when you have a top guy,
top caliber guy. Um, you know who who's Who's catch
radius is out of this world and you don't put
him in the first time the first game of the season.
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What kind of messenger are you sending to anybody not
only your team, but your organization, your fan base, but
across the league. You just lost the Super Bowl two
years ago. Being conservative, yes, yeah, you know what I mean.
I think you want you want to have somebody like Hulio.
You create opportunities. There was a stat out there that
since his last touchdowns, ninety other players have called touchdowns
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in the NFL. This guy, how in the world could
he not having really scored and I think the second
game of the seedy he scored three touchdowns in one
game more he tied what he did last year. Ye.
When you look at the league, it is one to
nothing Boston, just like that, in two batters, one to
nothing Boston already. Wow. Be sure to catch live editions
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Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app t O. When
you look at the league, there's a lot of talk
about the defensive rule, you know, the changes in the rules.
You can't really hit receivers down field. You obviously can't
really hit the quarterback, which is how well, yeah, what
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do you think about the way the game is being played. Now,
Obviously these numbers you can't even compare them. So when
you were certainly early in the first of all, if
I'm playing in today's game and they're protecting the quarterback
like they're protecting them as a player, I'm pissed off
because how can you How are you trying to prolong
or protect this guy who's a football player. You're prolonging
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his career, but you just don't care about microL nobody else.
So you see, not just as a defensive player, I'm
talking about a player peer That should dude, that should
tick everybody off that you're and these are the guys.
And again you think about these quarterbacks that are getting
paid one hundred eighty two hundred million. They're not standing
up for these guys that are not making that much money,
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but they're being protected to make the most money that
they can make. And these other players, they're not even
giving the opportunity to even get guaranteed contracts. Players. But
that's your unions, but the players. But they the players
got power, but they don't use is. All they gotta
do is not played. All they gotta do is call
each other, Look, guys, this is what we're gonna do.
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But these guys are too afraid. I tell people all
the time, you know what, you know, when baseball players
they stop the World Series, you stop one Super Bowl,
I'm telling you ain't even got to stop to say
you can stop right now. They can get together right now,
right now, they can stop right now, stop playing like
there's always the thought you need to stop in the
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off season. But you're right, if they stop now, can
you imagine it's actually probably be stronger if you stop
during Nobody anyways, I say the super footballer is all
that money could lead to. That's I'm right, That's what
I'm saying. These players need to understand. Like and I
and a lot of these players start chirping on on
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all the social media because they're seeing all the money
that's being paid to baseball players, basketball players players, you
can do the same. You can get paid the same way.
You got ten baseball players who make about three hundred
million dollars guarantee that all they gotta do is get
stick together. They have more power and leverage than they
think they got. They the owners don't own them. They
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have to understand that and That's why in this whole
Colin Kaepernick situation, they feel threat. A lot of people
want to support Colin. Quiet is killed as soon as
they right exactly as soon as they step out on
a limb to support them. They know at some point
their job is gonna But if everybody, you can't get
rid of everybody. I know, but I'm saying it takes everybody.
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It takes a village. Did you when you were in
the league did you try to talk to some of
the player leaders about, look, we need to do this differently,
we need to unite or anything like that, and it's
just a lot of guys talk about it. But it
has to be obviously, it has to be done the
right way. These guys need. I mean, you have guys
that are president you know, of the union and the
presidents of teams or what have you. It starts with
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those guys like you're Malcolm Jenkins. You know, it starts
with those guys. Those guys are smart enough to know, like, bro,
if we stick together, this is what we can have.
You talk about the two hundred me like guaranteed contracts.
It's around the corner. I'm telling it. It's around the corner.
But a lot of guys they don't want to sacrifice
because again, a lot of guys don't manage budget their
money the right way. You've seen the number. But the
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thing is they feel like that if if they strike,
they feel like it's going to be like two three years.
Trust me, it may not be two three weeks because
there is so much money at stake. It's the eye
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The only hard part is figuring out which way is easier.
And I know he wants to get the basket. Yeah yeah,
real quick. I just could you hit? Did you Did
you play baseball? Man? I wish I can steal some bases.
I'm still fast, still fast. Did you play in high school?
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Could you play high school? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I was decent. Yeah,
so when did you like? What kind of basketball player
were you in high school? Um? I was average, I
wasn't weren't as good as I wasn't know. I was
better basketball than I was football in high school. I
know you went to Tennessee State. I went to Tennessee
Chat and I walked on. I walked on the basketball
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team outter my freshman year. UM. Buddy Knicks was the
head coach my freshman year. UM, and he did. He
had this this thing where he didn't allow players that
got recruited to play other sports. So he end up
getting fired. So the next coach that came in, Tommy West. UM,
I think he came over from Clemson. UM, so we didn't.
I want to total thirteen games my entire college career.
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So huh, so you played basketball Tennessee right, so my
mold sports you won thirteen games or just basketball? No,
just football? Total football. I total thirteen games and four years.
So after my sophomore year, you know, I asked. I
went to the office and I asked coach if I
could play basketball, And he goes, well, why would you
want to play basketball? He goes, those guys are pretty good.
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He they're recruited to play basketball. I said, I love it.
You know, that's what I that's what I like to do.
He goes, I don't have a problem. He goes, if
you can go on, walk on to our our basketball team,
He goes, that'll tell me what type of athletes you are.
And so again I played three probably thought you weren't
gonna make it. Did you get much playing time? Yeah?
I started. I even started, like uh my, I started
like four, like five to six games one my high
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school one of my actually my college coach, basketball coach,
Matt McCarthy. He spoke at my Hall of Fame induction.
So if you had had the choice, you would have
went to the NBA over there, no doubt about it. Absolutely.
It's funny. We just had Dave Winfield on and Dave
Winfield I don't know if you noticed too, but he
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was drafted by four different leagues. That's what kind of
athlete he was. So he's drafted in football with the
Minnesota Vikings, he was drafted by the San Diego Padres
in baseball, and then he was drafted in the NBA
and the ABA. He actually had he had all four
and he picked baseball. Want to play in twenty years
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and being a Hall of Famer. So that's interesting that
that basketball was really your number one. Yeah, I mean
I love it. I still play it today. I'm very competitive.
A lot of people trip out now at how I'm
able to move around and maintain my level of condition
where it is. I mean, it's not the greatest, but
it's not the worst either. Like I said, I mean,
people ask me now. They saw I went up to
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the Bay Area over the weekend for the San Francisco
Alumni Weekend, and some people were looking at me, like, man,
you look like you can still play. I mean, with
the way the game is being played now, there's no
doubt that I can play Murmber. How much easier you
feel because when you played, obviously you could get lit
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up by a defensive back. How much easier do you
think it is for a receiver nowadays? Then when you played, um,
it's it's a little bit easier. That's why you see
the the inflation of the number of the numbers crazy,
you know, versus when we played. That's because of you know,
the rules that they've implemented within the first five yards
and then obviously ten yards down the field. Soon as
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you get chucked or whatever, it's it's a flag. And
so again with my knowledge of the game, like I said,
I know, like just knowing how to run certain routes.
Bro I could get open easy. Um. I know I
was watching some games, uh some highlights um of San Francisco,
and I saw Pierre Garson, uh run some rounds like man,
I could have run that route. I mean some guys
(22:00):
know they I don't even know how some of these
guys still have jobs, to be honest, because I know
I'm I'm I'm positive I can go out right now
and make an impact with a number of plays you know,
scripted um for me to be you know, advantageous to
a squad. I mean you look at like some of
these guys. They're not playing sixty seventy five snaps. I
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don't need to. I don't need to play that many either.
I need to play certain downs and distances, certain packages.
You get me in the red zone, I'm a threat, right,
you get me on the side of somebody like a
Julio just think about it. I just think I put
insert me with the Atlanta Falcons. They have some new
they have Ridley, they got they got the best receiving corps.
What they got, Julio Jones. They're not They're not good though. No,
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I'm just saying the third, three and four. Now I
think they should be better than they should be. What
I'm saying right, they should be. Jay, I got one
more football question, Jalen Ramsey. You know, been talking a
lot and their defense is kind of falling off the
map lately. Who who was the defensive back or backs? Like,
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did any talk a lot of trash to you? Like
when you played where they're those they talked a lot
of trash. No, there wasn't a lot of guys question
trash talking Tuesday, right, But DeAngelo tried to do that.
He was one of those guys. You know a lot
of these guys. Yeah, they try to emulate, you know,
prime time some people. He has it, you know, and
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everybody don't have it, right. Everybody doesn't have that playmak
ability where you can talk and then you back it up.
You know, they wouldn't even throw the ball his side
of the field. That's a totally different animal. So a
lot of guys that they didn't they talked it when
you know there they got microphones in them in the
face in the locker room, but not a lot of
them did it on the field in person. And so
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for me, a lot of people thought I talked a
lot of trash while I was on the football field. Now,
if you look at most of my my sound bites,
they were on the sideline, you know what I mean.
And I knew the matchups of who I had to
play against every week. I knew the guys that were
supposed to be the top guys in the league around
that time. Um, you talk about your Champ Baileys, you
talk about your Charles Woodson, your dre Bligs. These are
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guys that wanted to emulate Prime Time. They wanted to
be the shut down corners. For me, that was a
challenge because I came out of you Tea Chattanooga. Um,
I wasn't thought of of of a burner. I wasn't
that that that that type of go to guy. So
I really that's what I did. I worked to create
a name for myself. I wanted to be a threat,
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and I played with Jerry. I saw what Jerry was
able to do throughout the course of his career. I
must have been cool, though, playing with a guy like yeah,
you guys from smaller schools, right, he demanded that attention.
I saw that with my own eyes. I watched the
practice habits I had heard about it. I watched the film.
I watched game film. Dude, I would go there would
be games that we would lose at three or win
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or what have you. Um at Kendel State Park, I
would go back to the back to the stadium, not
to the stadium, but to our practice facility, just to
watch film on what to see what could I have
done better, or you know, try to correct the mistakes
that I made. Those are some of the things that
I did. You know, I'm beknown to a lot of
people that helped, you know, prepare my career. Right. Matt
Kemp just went deep in Finnway Park to pull the
(25:13):
Dodgers within one. They're now down two one to the
Boston Red Sox. That's a big blow. They needed that
after somebody on the radio today predict Matt Kemp going
deeply for the Green minds up. Matt come back years
look like he was finished. He had a great year
(25:33):
for the Dodgers, and he cooled down in the second half.
But that's a big blow, just to take the steam
off Chris Sale. Chris Sale was sailing along and uh,
it's only the second inning. That's that's t o. I
don't know if you know, Rob is like an aspiring comedian.
I'm gonna go on, I'm gonna do five minutes. I'm
(25:53):
ready to go. He's gotten advice from our Seneo Hall.
He's gonna walk me out and present me on the stage.
So I'm I'm gonna do it one day. I'll let
you know. Come come hang out, listeners. This might be
the end of Rob Parker. This might be the end
of Rob Parkers. CEO knows how corny you come on? Well, Tel,
(26:14):
you heard Rob's take on the Lakers. It's Lebron's fault
that they're owing three. So what do you What do
you think about the Lakers right now? They're they're they're
trying to find themselves. They're trying to find some identity,
obviously if they addressed the toughness part. But I think
what they lack, and I think a lot of people
that are listening um would agree, is that the perimeter shooting. Um,
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it's been very dismal as of late, and it's gonna
be just like they don't have they don't really have
any like any pure shooters. If you think about where
he came from with the Cleveland Cavaliers, they had some
shooters even with j R. Smith Smith, but he exactly right,
and you had it doesn't matter, but but you still
were shooters. They were shooting exactly with also with Kevin
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love Ye, you had you had cover. That does I
think they didn't address that part of their offseason moves
as far as the perimeter shooting these concerns. Yeah, So
I wouldn't say that that's that's not Lebron's fault. He
can't make them shoot. But tyo, this is the part
that I think fans will will start to couch question
(27:22):
a little bit. Did you come here to win championships
or you're here to like retire and work on your
career If that's okay. If they're gonna question anybody, don't
question Lebron. Who brought Lebron over here? Magic? Okay, So
now you got a question manage. But I just wonder
if if when you see Lebron with all and don't
get me wrong, I know you could do more than
one thing at one time, but there was so many
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like deals and all this other stuff outside and he's dude,
whether he does it now or four years from now,
Hollywood's gonna welcome Lebron. James no matter what, do you
agree with that? I get that. But again he again,
obviously he has whatever it is that made him come here.
He only he knows that. Obviously, his reason is to
(28:08):
really help the development of these younger guys. You saw
the development and improvement at the end of the end
of last year that they made the strikes good josh
it's not even starting right now, he's gonna be exactly
so again KCP, he's not shooting the ball like he
should be. They got, like I said, they've addressed the
(28:31):
toughness with Joshua. Would you would you put Harden and
start him? And yes, again, they're gonna find some rotations
that fit them. Right now. It's early. There's no need
to panic. I understand that. Yeah, it would be greater,
Yeah if they started out, you know, but this is
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this and when you with Lebron, when you do all
the other things off the court, you better ball. And
he's playing well, but he's not playing up to Lebron
James standards, right, And that's what's gonna lead to skeptics.
If you if you're doing all this stuff in Hollywood,
but you're not playing, you're not knocking down James k right,
(29:15):
we'll get to that. But what he what is he
doing in Hollywood? That's a shop that's on HBO. He's
about to do Space Jam in a little while, Space
Jam two, But that's that's on his downtime. And I'm
with you, you can do plenty of I mean, Shock
did Cauzam because that's not but he may rap albums,
(29:37):
you know, I agree to you know, you can do
other things. And see what I'm saying is when you
do other things, if you don't play at your level.
You know what I'm saying. People are gonna say, well,
hold on, Well, I think that's all I'm saying. I
think he's very self aware of his production, what he
needs to do, what he doesn't need to do, and
if that's taking a precedent or a priority over his
(30:00):
basketball obligations, I don't think we've gotten to that point.
Everybody is speculating because this is what Hollywood. Hollywood does.
But they are speculating until until we see a tremendous
drop off in his production. Again, that's all it is,
because they have nothing else to talk about. When you've
got people like Rod Parker out there throwing out But
(30:23):
we only got a few seconds left before we go
to the break. My problem is in the Western Conference,
you fall too far behind. You're gonna be You're gonna
be in the second half of the of the division
and you'll be playing on the road and you could
get knocked out because you're playing Golden State. Understand Okay,
that's all I'm saying. I guarantee he understands. Those are
the things I'm talking about. I will continue this conversation
(30:46):
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So til let's get to it. We were talking about
Lebron and the Lakers this year. All time, there's always
the debate of Lebron or Michael Jordan, and even Lebron
or Kobe Bryant. So I want to put you on
the spot. Let's go Lebron Kobe first. Kobe? Really, wow,
(31:55):
all right, you didn't even hesitate, didn't Noah, you didn't hesitate,
So go ahead. Honestly, I I am. I am with
what Lebron has done. It's it's amazing, like he might
be the best athlete that we've ever seen, you know,
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especially to do. I mean you talk about size, speed,
you know, able to play every position one through five
like that. It's almost like he's in a class of
it of his own. When you start comparing you know,
him and Kobe, him and Michael, it's a it's it's
a little bit sketchy. Well because when you start factoring
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in championships into it. Michael, I think when people have
witnessed what Michael does and how he did it just
with the flair. You know that if the if if
if they need a bucket, if it's a clutch shot,
I don't know what the percentage is of him making
that shot, but I I think it's it's it's it's
kind of high. You ask somebody, if you have somebody
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is actually right there with Jordan. I'm telling you what
the really what the perception. No perception is you would
give the ball a mike if you if you ask
basketball fans, who would you give the ball to for
the last shot, I guarantee you eighty percent or would
say Michael Jordan. But the perception is that because when
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Michael Jordan played, and I'm a Jordan guy, I think
George's the goat. So I'm not just credit him. I'm
just saying the reason there's that perception. There's even the
perception that Kobe was better than the clutch than Lebron,
But percentage wise, the stats don't show that. It's because Lebron. Now,
I mean, you didn't have these twenty four hour a
day talk shows. No, no, you didn't have twenty four
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seven sports talk radio. So with Lebron, I mean, like
last night that's a meaningless game, okay, But everybody's been
talking about Michael Jordan played. We didn't know. We really
didn't look at his you know, a Tuesday night game
in January in Utah where he might have missed the
game winner. It wasn't talked about like this, so we
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don't remember that stuff. Like I'm addressed the meaningless game.
It may be meaningless to some people, but when you
when you have when you're down by one and you
get filed and you expected to go to the free
throw line and make clutch shots, being the greatest right
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you have to deliver in those even in a meaningless game.
I say meanings because it's early in the season. We've
seen Kobe with a torn achilles but go to the
line and make two free But we've also seen Kobe
in the same situation as Lebron last night missed two
and Jordan they both did. They were people were tweeting
it on Twitter last night, videos of win, but don't
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remember the clips. But they missed. They lost because they
were in the same situation exactly. They missed the two
free I want to see. I want to know the
end result. Did they win or they lose? Did they
but they did miss two free Because I'm with you,
I do think last night, if I got Kobe Bryant
at the line, I'm betting he makes one, at least one,
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at least one. I am saying it happened where we
can't say Kobe never would have done that, because he
did it. But this is this is where Kobe, this
is where Kobe's downgraded for me just a little. There's
two things that just can't I can't shake. Number one,
Shack was the most dominant player in the league at
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that time when when they won those three championships. So
that's nothing that that Kobe didn't play or it wasn't
the great player, but Shack was the best player, right Yeah, Okay.
At number two, the one thing that that Kobe did
against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs as he quit
on his team in the game and you know the
game I'm talking about a Game seven where he was
(35:55):
mad used to shoot because everybody, everybody was too much
in Game six and you know that Teo Kobe. For
a guy like Kobe to give up and not go
out knowing his team couldn't win to prove a point,
I thought that was the local part of his career
and they lost that series. Do you remember that I remember,
(36:15):
you know what I mean? Yeah, most people don't want
to remember if I remember vaguely, Yeah, I mean that's
that's selfish. That's selfish. That's selfish. And again, like I said,
we've all been in certain moments like that. But when
I bet you if you could do it over again,
he would never do Yeah. But when when you start
comparing you know, these three individuals, there's a lot of
variables that that that takes takes place. Who your order,
(36:38):
if the thing is, it's it's the eras in which
these guys played in Obviously, I think Kobe and Lebron
they kind of shared the same uh same er. Yeah.
But it's just like when you talk about championships, in
the manner in which it was done. I think that's
what people resonate with because they think about the killer
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instinct of the Michael Jordan, that Kobe Bryant. It's the
manner in which they do it, you know what I mean.
I don't think and this maybe this is just the
way Lebron plays. It's the way he grew up. He
wanted to be an all around type of player. So
he wasn't he wasn't all about just really dominating the game,
just individually scoring, right. So he tries to possess every
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little intangible that he can to magnify who he is today,
no doubt about it. But there moments when I I'm
frustrated by him because I know nobody can stop him
in the pain or post up or nobody can stop him,
yet he still would rather pass to somebody cross court
where you know, in situations and and and have somebody
(37:43):
else take the big shot. And that's what frustrates people
about Lebron. Not that people we haven't seen him make
some big shots, but there are times you would just say,
you're the best guy, right, the best player in the planet. Dude.
Well check this stat out all right, game time field
goals or I'm sorry, game time or go ahead field
(38:05):
goals under ten seconds left in the playoffs. Okay, just playoffs,
not regular season. Michael Jordan's seven for fifteen forty seven percent,
Kobe Bryant five for twenty two, twenty three percent, Lebron
James twelve for twenty three. I'm tell you the perception,
(38:31):
Like I said, look everything now we see every blemish
on Lebron's record, whether it's a regular season game in
July January or whether it's a playoff game. We didn't
see Michael Jordan had nights in the finals where he
shot like thirty seven percent in the game, and we
don't remember. I get that, no doubt about when everyone
(38:55):
you didn't have a show first take unders at break everything, recamp,
every but this is who hours to break right, This
is what I would like to see. I'd like to
see making the big shot with your team down. Because
Lebron made two shots this year right when the score
was tied, even last night. Pressure last No, No, that
(39:18):
was to tie the game. I give me that. That's
a make. But the ones where his team is it's
a tie game and it's either you're gonna make the
shot to go to overtime. There's no pressure on that shot.
It's a good make, but it's not a pressure. Make.
You know that if I miss it, we're still going
over time. But if you're down, I would like to
see when you're down and need somebody to make a bucket,
(39:39):
I guarantee you Michael has better numb. Here's my thing
with Kobe two and look Kobe's an all time great,
top ten all that, But I think you nitpick when
you're talking about all time greats, like we were talking
to you about you, Randy Moss, Jerry, you nitpicking little things.
All are great, right, but Kobe wasn't nearly as efficient
as Mike and Lebron. Like, Kobe never shot forty seven
(40:04):
percent from the floor. He was always forty six and under.
And that's where Shock drawn double and triple teams for
eight years. But that's big, you know that, because that
means you you gotta take more shots to get your points,
and that can affect your team mat That's that's because
Kobe's a high volume. And what you're talking about with
Kobe his percentage being terrible. I guarantee you if he
(40:27):
and Kobe had to take those shots because he felt
like he needed to take those shots in order to win.
So just think if if if Lebron took the same approach,
his numbers probably wouldn't be as great. I don't think so.
Are you kidding me? Because Lebron? First of all, Lebron
scores more points than Kobe, Like his career average is
hired than Kobe's. But I ain't like he don't shoot.
(40:50):
Kobe just wasn't as efficient of a score. And like
you said, he had shock. It ain't like he had
to take some of those shots. But even when he
didn't have shock, when he had when he was the man,
he had to take shots. He was a high volume shooter.
But he only even started winning again once he got
on shot what Jerry West did the Oki doke and
(41:10):
got them power Kassol because when he had when he
was playing with Smush Parker and the Cosby kids, it
wasn't a pretty sight, right remember, And that's almost like
what Lebron is dealing with right now. Right, so let's see,
let's see what Lebron like, Yeah, what can you do
with it? Exactly? That's the same situation Lebron is in
right now. And again it's early for a lot of
(41:31):
the Los Angeles Laker fans out there, it's early. Again,
he's processing everything. Trust me. They were a couple of
shots away from every game that they've been to winning
though they could easily be three. And oh, let me
ask you this, tho. If you're a teammate on the
Lakers and Lebron, you saw the fight between Rondo and
(41:51):
Chris Paul and Lebron you know, coddle Chris Paul right
arm around him. And then today, now we know they're
best friends. Today Rondo comes out and says, you know,
Chris Paul, do we have the sound of that? Rondo
comes out today and says, Chris Paul's you know, not
a good guy. Everybody thinks he's this or that, but
he's really the league is uh yeah, the league. So
(42:15):
what do you think as a teammate of the Lakers,
are you wondering where Lebron stands or are you you know,
is that how you get it? Because you know prior
to this incident that they're best friends. Well, I think
in this situation, I like the approach or Lebron. I mean,
if he gets in there and mix it, mixes it
up and get suspended, then they really right that. So
(42:37):
he was being a media mediator pretty much a peacemaker
in this situation because, like I said, he has to
police this situation accordingly, you know what I mean. Get regardless,
even if he wanted to retaliate and have his team
teams back it does, it's not gonna cry. He's not
gonna serve any the organization any get any good will
by going mixing it up, getting suspended with along with them.
(43:02):
Right then, it's so I think he did the right
thing based on what I saw. I'm with it. I
had no problem with it. I don't think you need
to look at I don't. I don't think you need
to question you know, whether he has your back or not.
I think I think those guys know that. If it
was if it was like he came down and like
(43:22):
got into uh Brendan Ingram's face like what are you
doing man? Or something like yeah, yeah, taking it like
he just kept him away from the squam, right, which
is the right thing to do, absolutely all right, Well,
the eye couple, we've been joined by the great Hall
of Famer Tarrell Owens. Got to do it again, absolute
(43:46):
plus one to do it. That's right,
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