October 18, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why Penn State was wise for firing head coach James Franklin for being unable to win the big games, tell us why they’ve been so disappointed with the play of Shohei Ohtani during the MLB Postseason, and debate whether or not sports fans should have a problem with NBA players like Russell Westbrook who would rather bounce around the League at the end than just retire.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm gonna rag on Doug Gottlieb and I have to
what's the name of the segment?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Because Doug does it on his show. What does the
Fox say?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He listens to what we might outtake and then he
kind of takes us to task on his show, which
is fine, I'm good. This is all game. We're on
the air. And that has to do with James Franklin.
What do you think like he's so bent out of
shape that Penn State fire Ben, Ben Franklin, James Franklin
and Doug.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Doug's a coach who hasn't won, so he's making it
like like he could say, what.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, you can make whateveris as hard as he can
make whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I get it, but it sounds bad. It just sounds
bad because he's like well, where's the honor in that?
And now blah blah blah, dude, and we say it
on this show all the time. Sports has a short
menu wins and losses, and when you don't win enough,
guess what, you get fired.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So I get it, but Doug is.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Trying to like, oh my god, it's so Jane Frank
looking up what he's done, and is.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That dumb that honor or whatever? Dude? He stopped. Okay,
I listen. I get it, Doug. You're a coach.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You're a I know you have a radio show, but
you're a coach and your team won two games last year.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So he's trying to like, well, it's not always about winning.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's about no, no, Doug, I hate to break it
to you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
It's about winning.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And when you win, you can do almost anything, and
they will bring you back. They'll bend over back with Kelvin,
and when you don't win, guess what they go get
somebody else you want.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
You want to break down why he ain't here, and
so because I don't get I didn't hear Doug's full
take on it. So no, no, no, I'm but but you
from what you're paraphrasing, I Listen, there have been every
year you and I we told you this what we do,
and anybody who watches sports long enough, you know there's
gonna be a scenario where there's a coach who's fire,
who was formerly coach of the year or candidate or this,
(02:26):
that and the other gets fired.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I want to bring this when it comes to us.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, this is this is why I'm against your theory
of being relevant, because this is why he was allowed
to stay in this job longer than he deserved.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And I get the timing. You lose to.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
UCLA who hadn't led in any game this year, Okay,
forget about they had led in any game, and you
follow that up with a loss to Northwestern?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Are you kidding? Do you know the alumni?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They probably froze their accounts the money that they will
sending to Penn State.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Like, let's not be silly when you ask why why
do you do this?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Why are they because the money will stop when they
feel like they can't go to a game or bring
their clients or whatever and it's not enjoyable, they will
stop the money train.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's why these things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
When you ask why would they eat forty nine million
dollars because they're gonna lose more than that on the
back end. Okay, keeping James Franklin around and I looked
at it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He couldn't win it. He couldn't beat any good teams.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Had a terrible record against top ten teams against Ohio
State and Michigan.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I think they was four and seventeen or like, no,
you go ahead, am, I got the exact numbers. Okay,
give me the numbers that they're awful. They're awful.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And this is why I'm against you on or being
relevant because you go, WHOA, what are we gonna do
to nobody else out there? And at least we're in
the mint and they were in the College Football Playoff
last year. But that's why when it came to the
big games, he couldn't win them.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So my point has always been I have a shot
at winning big games, right, you keep us giving us
a shot, you can't. This isn't a shot. Rob a
shot is, so there's twenty five games to do. Judge
from a shot is twelve and thirteen, eleven and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
This ain't a shot.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Dropping Franklin at four and twenty one at Penn State
against ap top ten opponents from not top five, not
top three, ten, you're supposed to be in that caliber
of top ten teams.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
State is a story franchise.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
It's okay, like seriously, so that that's not my My
point is more of a yo, we got a chance
to get to the When we talk about like John Harball,
for example, my point is historically John Harball has a
chance to get to the AFC Championship compete, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And that's what I'm saying. I don't want to get
rid of a guy like this.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
This you are four and twenty one versus hot I
can't justify it.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
When I got to go to these booster luncheon.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Ad for millions and they're like, hey, what's up my son,
he's a little nerd.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He was doing some math.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I present you the notes my son sent me four
and twenty one against ap top ten teams. Listen to this,
including a one in eighteen against top ten, big ten teams.
That's who you're supposed to be, right. Maybe you can't
beat Alabama. Okay, maybe you can't be you can't beat
the big ten tennis who you're supposed to be beating.
And how much longer can I be the bridesmaid. If
(05:28):
I'm Penn State meeting, I gotta sit there and watch
Michigan get another national championship.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Couple of season ago.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I gotta watch Ohio State get won last season, could
potentially get one this year. I gotta watch Indiana look
really good this year. You can wear they are.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They just had their biggest one in their part franchise
history in that school program.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I see Wisconsin pull off some things here there, and
I'm like, wait, how what's consent do that? Point being,
I don't want to keep watching this if I'm Penn State,
and they'll be quite frankly pun intended.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Twelve years is a long time ties.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
This ain't the nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, even I'll
give you early two thousands were guys sit there and
you just get to be a statue retired.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You don't even know what you're doing out there. They're like, coach,
co coach, you go, I got don'tory about Joe Peerna,
We got you. This is what you're gonna do. Hey, Hey,
hey bo Sam Begga, don't worrybot you know whoever.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
This ain't that, This is twenty twenties, information, social media,
pressure boosters, press nil now, but twelve years is a
good run.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And you're asking people for millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, that's that's what you're asking these businessmen and boosters
and alumni to come up with. Seriously, and if you
think they're going to pay money to see you lose
to Northwestern and u CLA and think that that's okay
when they flew.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Out to LA for the game and all just fired
the coach, by the way, like the UCLA came in.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Hey, by the way, Deshaun Foster looks so bad right
now because UCLA looks like a former Look at Rob
g your squad.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I mean they looking you have to beat them now.
They were laughable.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's amazing where they are there.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They're world beaters now all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But my point is, you're right, this is not dude,
he had twelve years. They didn't hire him last year,
three years or whatever, and say, okay, that's not good enough.
Twelve years and the numbers and this is this is
the point about being relevant. It could be like John
Harbaugh won a Super Bowl. It's been many years now.
(07:28):
After a while, Mike McCarthy was in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That was nice. You want to.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, now, ten years of past and after a while
the Packers were relevant the whole time, but they kept
losing in those moments. The Ravens keep losing in the
big moments. Tom right, Uh, Mike Chamelin, Yeah, Mike Timeline, Mike,
Tom that's what we talk about all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh, why does he want a forty one year old coal?
He needs to win.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
He knows he needs to win. Mike Tomlin ain't fooling nobody,
and he needs to win because of the same thing
will happen Like James Franklin after a while, that can
only buy you a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
He won a Super Bowl and lost one. So Tomlin's
been there. I get it.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
But that was years ago. But by the way, they
owe that man forty nine million dollars. Life will be good.
He'll be fine, dug, he'll be fine, and he'll get
another job, will get a job. He's gonna get He'll
get his money. He'll be fine. But my gosh, when
they wanted Jim Fish Jimbo Fisher out at Texas A
and pay him seventy nine six million dollars, to go
(08:33):
home and have a seat is crazy. Think about that.
They were like seventy six million dollars. You know who
else is now noway near the money. But I was
looking it up as crazy completely as not college. But
the Cleveland Browns are paying five quarterbacks right now. They
got to relax too.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's crazy clean.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Because they were gonna go into the off season. You
know they're gonna draft. The Cleveland Browns is playing way
too many quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I just don't understand, seriously, And that's why I brought
up Dug the start. I get it, he's a coach
and and and coaches. You know they feel bad when
other coaches.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Get fired and all that. One of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But come on, Doug, you know sports, okay, And if
you lou if you win two games again this year,
whatever it was, dude, they're not going to renew your
contract and give you a contract extension.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm sorry. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Rogerie, here we go again. I gotta be at the
Super Bowl. I gotta be ready.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's exactly what I'm thinking right wow, speaking of Super
Bowl out here, like Jon Robbins, we chopped it up
with Bjon Robinson at the Super Bowl he's just a
friend of the sixty something yards run.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'll throw hands if I have to.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
If and when we got to fight in the super Bowl, Yeah,
I'm taking Iowa Sam because I feel like we're good friends.
We get talk it out, but the you two got
to scrap with whoever else is there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Me and Sam will act like we're fighting. Will be
off to the side, just talking about where we.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Got Well, let me ask you you and and then
Dub young man, who are you fighting?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Get out of that's Jay. Steve goes hiking every weekend.
I got shape like him too.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We have some good runs together. Man, How you doing good? Yeah? Man,
it's a non person not just you know.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Now we gotta we gotta rope in Manci to fight
Dan Bayern and they do a show together. That's not good.
It's all bad because Rob couldn't give his mouth shaved.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'm sorry I heard it. It just was like it
got me fired up. But that's part of you wanted
to show. But I'm sorry you you you cannot.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You're gonna end up a topic on the Doug got
I'm wit listen, I am with you.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You set up here and heard me's many time man,
you can't fire him for this, or come on, they
give one more season.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
This to me, you can't listen.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You can't be the first coach to lose two games
in a row to non ranked teams that you were
favored by more than twenty points like that.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Can't that just can't happen.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
At last point, real quick for me, I told Rob
g this, this ain't your mama's and your daddy's big ten.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
We got USC in there now, right.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You got UCLA now, who obviously looks like they've turned
a corner all of a sudden out there.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Who knew that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But you got a Oregon meaning this ain't the ten
eleven teams you used to have to contend with. Now
you got some other big dogs coming in. And we
can't just be falling down to Penn State. That's how
you feel. We can't be getting We already got deal
with Michigan, Ohio State historically. Now we're getting further and
further down the pecking order. And lastly, they're building a
brand new facility that's gonna cost them. I have the
(11:25):
number right, seven hundred million dollar renovation and people gonna
stop making donations.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
This is what I'm telling you like you're looking at
the forty nine million, that's the number to look.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Kevin, Hun, we got a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
We need to start winning and start justifying while we're
doing all this and why people should have putting, and
we're gonna get extra few games and we're gonna be
in the college football playoffs and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So yeah, that's why.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I mean, listen, it sucks anytime somebody for them, you know, personally,
but this is on the heart of the family. I
giving you twelve years and the guys around you have
two of them back to back, one championship and.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Last thing, Doug, this is not okay. Oh on, let
me do some pushup.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Go.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, no, this is no. This is the last thing.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's not like your Supreme Court justice or the pope.
Those are the only people get to keep their job forever,
right regardless, Sorry, Doug. Coaches get fired when they don't
win sports. As a short menu.
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Speaker 3 (12:59):
He's He's still Moving show. Hey is a no show?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Seriously one for twenty and guess what off of reputation?
They keep walking him in front of Mookie, and Mookie
keeps getting walks and walking in a run.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Pitch to the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Make him earn his keep, Make him earn that seven
hundred million dollar contract that they're paying him for. Last year,
he struggled and they won his fight. They won the
World Series where he didn't pitch and he didn't hit.
This year, they're winning, trying to get back to the
World Series, trying to win back to back for the
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first time since the Yankees did it in ninety nine
two thousand and This dude is a no show.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
What has happened? You've seen some of the swings, some
of the at bats. Hello, is this on show?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hey, show up, earn your keep, get some knocks. Enough
already riding wave of everybody else and hiding. That's what
he's doing. Go ahead, defend him, Dodger Homer on.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Wait, I'm about to go full Robbie Cochran.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That's what I call you, your honor. I heard what
the prosecution have to say, but me, as the defense team,
I would like to say I object to the way
in which you are belittling the fact that the man
was walked three times.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's a massive part of success.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
If I walk, Barry Bonds, if I'm walking, Mike Trout,
if I'm watching walking, Mark Cguire, if I'm walking whoever
you wanted to be, and now in this case show Hey,
o Tani, that's a massive part.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You can't. Can you say this with a straight face?
Hold on?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Okay, hit me again, false, okay, hit me with the
law and order. I'm not done now listen. The benefit
that he also has is that it could potentially be
another two weeks. And this is what I mean. Don't
cover the no you said, James Franklin. Okay, listen, The
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best part about this is what's ahead of him, Meaning
they have minimally seven games if they were to go
to the World Series in either team won. But he
has minimum seventeen three to win this series and then
uh you know, for in the World Series or they're.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Sweeping the World Series minimally even if they were to lose.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I'm saying, but my point is he has a chance
to continue to produce. And I can't lie he ain't
showed up right now. It has definitely been no, hey,
no tany right now. I can't even deny it was.
Didn't even just this year, last last year, last year.
This year is even worse. No, but all jokes acide,
(15:49):
he's performed badly. H They have walked in so that
that has an advantage for him, the Dodgers. But here
here's the other thing too. It's not just the Robs,
just the one for twenty one. It's that how they're
taking full advantage of him on the inside, and he's
swinging at everything on the inside, swinging everything in the inside.
They and they have found that that he can't resist
that he's swinging uncharacteristically bad at some things. He's striking
(16:12):
out he's usually he does have bad outs, even if
you know, yay, it's part of baseball. You're gonna you
hit thirty percent of something, you're gonna be good. He
is having bad at bats at times, which is unusual.
Now this is where he has the benefit. He still
has so many games ahead of him that we could
potentially forget these first couple of weeks if he ends
up batting, you know, four hundred the rest of the
(16:33):
rest of the postseason, few hole runs, a couple of
big plays here or there, maybe steals a base, whatever
may be, and we can forget that because that's just
human nature. Dodgers won the World Series, second half was
better for him. All will be forgotten. But he has
been bad. I cannot deny. There's no argument he has
been bad. The only other point I make is if
he they slated him to get on the mound later
(16:54):
this series, he gets on the mound, he gets Ruddy's throw, No,
the opposite, he throws six, he throws seven, he goes five.
But a possibility, that is a possibility. That also is
what makes him this unicorn and what can save him.
So if he goes out there and throws a six inning, gym,
maybe a hit or two, but you know, no runs
goes out there. Seven k's again, this is why you
(17:16):
paid the man seven hundred million dollars. So that, thankfully
the other side of the coin is working because I
can't deny it the at bats right now, I am
fabulous and Nate Dogg, I can't deny it. It is
bad right now. There's no way around it. And the
best thing for him is that his team keeps winning.
That keeps giving him more chances, more at bats, and
more opportunities to rewrite this because I can't sit up
(17:36):
here and act like if this wasn't Aaron Judge, we
will be having some conversations here you go. This was
a Rod in his run with the with the Yankees.
We'll be having conversations. Is this were Mookie. Let's say
it was Mookie prior to show hey coming when he
was the big star. We will be having this conversation.
So he absolutely deserves some concern. He absolutely deserves some
criticism right now. But fortunately for him, the Dodgers keep
(17:56):
winning and he has more opportunities to change the narrative.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
But he has to start tonight again.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Last year, pot last week, I should say I pointed
out that the Dodgers bullpen had a chubby e r
Ra right in the eighth inning. Well, oh, Tani is
the opposite as far as that his postseason batting average
is a spelt one thirty eight. That's hey, we all
eight no one thirty eight, All right, we want to
(18:22):
hear from you eight seven seven, Come on, hey ninety
nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I've been fighting for you. This man been down and
you are I've been having your back all year. Hit
me with a law and order.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Are we waiting? Are you waiting for show hey to
show up? Because there's been two postseasons? Now what what?
What's the deal? Do you have another baby? Am I
missing something?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Show?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
How disappointing are you and watching show?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hal Tani?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And is he not a postseason guy? Maybe he's a
regular season guy that maybe he can't perform in those
big moments those six years he was in Anaheim, he
never had to get a chance to play in the playoffs.
Maybe he's not a postseason guy. That Dodgers won a
championship last year where he struggled at the plate.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, you had one, does not know to extra dip
on your chips? Okay, he hit two thirty last year.
They would die to have him at two thirty.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
This year, he's one hundred almost one hundred points lower
than he was last year, and he was.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Better know what for you and Rob g Okay, the
best part about put the camera on me. The best
part about it is he's gonna have at least seven
more games. He's gonna bat four hundred, hit three to
four home runs, and all will be forgotten.
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Speaker 3 (19:44):
So SGA was.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Asked about this idea of these guys playing late into
their thirties, even into their forties. Right, Here's what SGA said,
I definitely think I can. I won't though, I won't
want to miss that much of my kid's life. That
at a certain point in your career where you reach
your peak and.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I don't fall. Guys are still playing.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
They love the game, but I just feel like you
play this game ultimately to see the best version of
me I can be. Once I figure that out and
I start going down, then it's like Okay, what am
I playing for now? Well, flash forward to today. Russell Westbrook,
former Laker, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz, former Nugget,
(20:23):
former Clipper, former former Oh we don't have all day?
My god, I signed a one year VET minimum deal
to join the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the
Western Conference. Rob, what's up with guys like Russ and others?
We just can't seem to hang it up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's just they're selfish and they can't let it go,
you know what I mean, Like seriously, because not only
are they just they're taking up a roster spot somebody
else could probably play. They're not going to get anything
from it. Russ isn't gonna win a championship, which he's
never won.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
He just wants to be on the bus, wants to
be on the team, you know, wants to still be
relevant where they're still gonna talk about Russ. And he
made a shot or a basket or steal and look
how much he plays with energy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And a lot of these guys can't let it go.
I'm just I can't understand and and and.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Sga, you know, was he talking about Lebron, Like, seriously,
I don't want to be playing till I'm in my forties.
I got kids in time. I want to spend with
my kids and all that. And I think that is
a little bit of it. Where Lebron, you've been around
for a long time. I don't know what else there is.
You know what I mean that you're chasing even if
(21:42):
you win, You're not passing Michael Jordan. You got I
hate to break it to you. You're the f FOTE
Finals failure of all time. You got more losses, you know,
than any other former MVP.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
There's a fact that the fun votes the Tom Brady
the lowloat.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Man. I'm jumping off your boat. I'm just saying and go.
That's it. I couldn't disagree more with you, selfish. Don't
forget the massault, Kevin Durant, that's right, the most sensitive
of all time. The missault. Very nice.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, I'm listening about to do whatever your OD is
right now. Let me figure out how ohe for you
Look at me. I'm the boat, you are the boat.
I am not.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Buying anything you selling right now.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This is this. I am not you at ross right now.
I'm not buying that deal. You love your career, correct
me if I'm wrong. Yes, but I'm not going to
be here forever.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You already are you and now you might not be,
but you're not. I'm not Bob Bryan and those guys.
So that's where I was going.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Who eighty years those dudes, I'm serious, Like, no, I
know you're right, we've seen it if you went out
the guys nose.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Guys are eighty years old. I'm not saying you're old.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
What I'm saying is you're in a career where you
already had it for you know, however long forty years,
almost forty years, you could have it if you chose
to another ten fifteen.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
We see it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
We talk about the guys and gals that we see.
Sports is not that you come in at twenty twenty one,
two three, and you might get four or five or
in some cases ten years fifteen, right, And so this
is something that they know is going to end. It
has an expiration date, and they want to enjoy it
as long as possible because at the end of the year,
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probably for us or Chris Paul and these guys, that
is it for the rest of your life. Well, look,
they don't have the luxury of us getting to run
our mouths for another thirty forty years.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know, if we chose to look at where Chris
Paul is again, like he's been on fifteen teams, like
like seriously, what possibly? I start to question, do you
want to be around your family?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Do you love your wife?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I think it's and I'm gonna tell you because it
ain't the money trust.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And it ain't the money because they don't make any money,
you know, like the veterans minimum.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I'm not making their run.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I think their spouses came into this, especially the guys
that were naming your name it or Russ. Russ has
been with his lady, his wife now four years. They
both for at UCLA. Chris Paul been with her for years.
Get it, Lebron, we know their story. My point is
there has been a sign on I know what this is.
I know I has signed up for. Lebron always talks
about how much he owes her on the back end,
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Savannah and the children, because they had to sacrifice so
much for me to go do this thing that I
believe I was here for and I'm great for and
they are.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Tom Brady did it for forty five Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Tom Brady came Tom Brady, Monny came in later.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
With the wife. No gods I name kind of they've
been with No.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But also he also got to the point where he
missed training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Do you know what I mean? Because he's overstayed Tom in.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
My opinion, and again I wasn't sitting in the you know,
at the house when they're having these conversations. I think
one of the differences is she was very vocal about, Hey, man,
this's gotta be it.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Hey, this needs to be it. Hey we done. Hey,
what about your family?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
What I assume to be with the Chris Pauls and
Wes Rustbrook and I kind of know some people you know,
like you know, they're very much all in the whole family, brothers, family,
everybody's all in on. This was the ride that we've
all taken because of you. You have kind of been
the chosen one. You have this amazing opportunity to change
your life, our lives, better lives, and do something.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Nobody's not making that kind of money now. It's not
the money.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, And my point is now at some point to
just be on another team, to just be on the bench,
to just be mopping up. Why would you want to
put yourself It would be like it would be like
me chicking around Fox Sports Radio and I don't know
Scott saying, do you want to do two midday hours
(25:40):
where nobody's listening?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Do you want to do that? I'm dealing with you
right now. What time slot? Rob midnight? I said night?
Job you? No, I didn't mean.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
He didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
We know who he didn't mean. Men, do you are
to turn now? Let me roll my sneeze it now
because I know I'm be scrapping.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Rob Gee, where'd your head go? Because Robgi No, he
finna be scrapping. Yes, Finna finna be scrapping. Telling My
point is, I'm good. I don't want to change spots.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I'm good. We have rowing is these dudes are doing
something that me and you were.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
You had the baseball back or stick or whatever y'all
using in New York back in the day, and I
had the basketball and I'm shooting hoops or we had
the tennis racket, whatever it is, and they're getting to
do something they absolutely love to do.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's such a small minority of people get to do.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
You get to be an NBA player four hundred and
fifty and out of eight billion people on the Earth,
I think they're gonna milk it. And Chris Paul gets
to be a leader, gets to be around, gets to
be that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Old vet on the team.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Those young players are like, dude, can this guy go
sit out?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So what every team needs? Can you go down?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
We got the first seven eight guys who really are
gonna play? Eight nine guys, The last three, four or
five guys ain't playing, and we need some leadership. We
need some locker room guys. When you know what charn
Berkeley talk about. He always talks about that he had
his vets and how grateful me? I mean my guys.
You talk about people who praise their mentors. He brings
them up every other week. How he didn't know how
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to dress, he didn't know how to do money. He
didn't know about a bankcut, he didn't know about all.
How do I get a house? How do I be
become a professional? You need those You could.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Do all that. They don't need to be on a team.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
They could be an assistant coach, they could be a
I would be on the team.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I have to be on the team.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
So yeah, I just think I think it's overstated. I
think you're overstating, like these dudes are like third mid
thirties or you know, thirty six, or they'll have the
rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But they played a long time, is my point, Like
there's a shelf life. Sometimes somebody wants me. Sometimes it's
great to walk away on that kind of level, like
just to be on yet another team. Here's the last
one I'm gonna bring. Yeah, there are kids in this
country who don't know how great Vince Carter was.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Okay, look at his stats.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
He played so long, all of his stats numbers have dropped,
and now a lot of people woul't even consider it.
Go like he was okay, he had a eight year run,
he had two separate careers. He had a career as
a bench player that nobody knows about, and he was
a really star player. He's stuck around too long. I
think that's where you could get hurt if you stick around.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Too I just think there's such a small minority of
guys who do this, Like who we can even have
these conversations about that is worth it?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
If I get to make hey, I make two three
four million dollars, which again in money really ain't the
issue at that point for some of these guys. And
I get to do the thing I love, I just
think why not?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Why not? And the most important, I think their families
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
You.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Savannah knows Lebron Russell Westby the wife for years, Chris
probably the White for a year. They kind of know,
the fans all in. Tom Brady's wife knew too, and
she bound he went to fifty two years old and
she told him, hey, brouh, this is it.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No why, but she knew they were all living off
for tom Brady and TV twelve and all that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
He told him.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
She gave the baby, he gave the aultimatum, he bro,
I'm just telling you
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm gonna rag on Doug Gottlieb and I have to
what's the name of the segment?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Because Doug does it on his show. What does the
Fox say?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He listens to what we might outtake and then he
kind of takes us to task on his show, which
is fine, I'm good. This is all game. We're on
the air. And that has to do with James Franklin.
What do you think like he's so bent out of
shape that Penn State fire Ben, Ben Franklin, James Franklin
and Doug.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Doug's a coach who hasn't won, so he's making it
like like he could say, what.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, you can make whateveris as hard as he can
make whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I get it, but it sounds bad. It just sounds
bad because he's like well, where's the honor in that?
And now blah blah blah, dude, and we say it
on this show all the time. Sports has a short
menu wins and losses, and when you don't win enough,
guess what, you get fired.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So I get it, but Doug is.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Trying to like, oh my god, it's so Jane Frank
looking up what he's done, and is.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That dumb that honor or whatever? Dude? He stopped. Okay,
I listen. I get it, Doug. You're a coach.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You're a I know you have a radio show, but
you're a coach and your team won two games last year.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So he's trying to like, well, it's not always about winning.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's about no, no, Doug, I hate to break it
to you.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
It's about winning.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And when you win, you can do almost anything, and
they will bring you back. They'll bend over back with Kelvin,
and when you don't win, guess what they go get
somebody else you want.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
You want to break down why he ain't here, and
so because I don't get I didn't hear Doug's full
take on it. So no, no, no, I'm but but you
from what you're paraphrasing, I Listen, there have been every
year you and I we told you this what we do,
and anybody who watches sports long enough, you know there's
gonna be a scenario where there's a coach who's fire,
who was formerly coach of the year or candidate or this,
(02:26):
that and the other gets fired.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I want to bring this when it comes to us.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, this is this is why I'm against your theory
of being relevant, because this is why he was allowed
to stay in this job longer than he deserved.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
And I get the timing. You lose to.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
UCLA who hadn't led in any game this year, Okay,
forget about they had led in any game, and you
follow that up with a loss to Northwestern?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Are you kidding? Do you know the alumni?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They probably froze their accounts the money that they will
sending to Penn State.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Like, let's not be silly when you ask why why
do you do this?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Why are they because the money will stop when they
feel like they can't go to a game or bring
their clients or whatever and it's not enjoyable, they will
stop the money train.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That's why these things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
When you ask why would they eat forty nine million
dollars because they're gonna lose more than that on the
back end. Okay, keeping James Franklin around and I looked
at it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He couldn't win it. He couldn't beat any good teams.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Had a terrible record against top ten teams against Ohio
State and Michigan.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I think they was four and seventeen or like, no,
you go ahead, am, I got the exact numbers. Okay,
give me the numbers that they're awful. They're awful.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And this is why I'm against you on or being
relevant because you go, WHOA, what are we gonna do
to nobody else out there? And at least we're in
the mint and they were in the College Football Playoff
last year. But that's why when it came to the
big games, he couldn't win them.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So my point has always been I have a shot
at winning big games, right, you keep us giving us
a shot, you can't. This isn't a shot. Rob a
shot is, so there's twenty five games to do. Judge
from a shot is twelve and thirteen, eleven and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
This ain't a shot.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Dropping Franklin at four and twenty one at Penn State
against ap top ten opponents from not top five, not
top three, ten, you're supposed to be in that caliber
of top ten teams.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
State is a story franchise.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
It's okay, like seriously, so that that's not my My
point is more of a yo, we got a chance
to get to the When we talk about like John Harball,
for example, my point is historically John Harball has a
chance to get to the AFC Championship compete, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And that's what I'm saying. I don't want to get
rid of a guy like this.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
This you are four and twenty one versus hot I
can't justify it.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
When I got to go to these booster luncheon.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Ad for millions and they're like, hey, what's up my son,
he's a little nerd.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
He was doing some math.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I present you the notes my son sent me four
and twenty one against ap top ten teams. Listen to this,
including a one in eighteen against top ten, big ten teams.
That's who you're supposed to be, right. Maybe you can't
beat Alabama. Okay, maybe you can't be you can't beat
the big ten tennis who you're supposed to be beating.
And how much longer can I be the bridesmaid. If
(05:28):
I'm Penn State meeting, I gotta sit there and watch
Michigan get another national championship.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Couple of season ago.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I gotta watch Ohio State get won last season, could
potentially get one this year. I gotta watch Indiana look
really good this year. You can wear they are.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They just had their biggest one in their part franchise
history in that school program.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I see Wisconsin pull off some things here there, and
I'm like, wait, how what's consent do that? Point being,
I don't want to keep watching this if I'm Penn State,
and they'll be quite frankly pun intended.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Twelve years is a long time ties.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
This ain't the nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, even I'll
give you early two thousands were guys sit there and
you just get to be a statue retired.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You don't even know what you're doing out there. They're like, coach,
co coach, you go, I got don'tory about Joe Peerna,
We got you. This is what you're gonna do. Hey, Hey,
hey bo Sam Begga, don't worrybot you know whoever.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
This ain't that, This is twenty twenties, information, social media,
pressure boosters, press nil now, but twelve years is a
good run.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And you're asking people for millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, that's that's what you're asking these businessmen and boosters
and alumni to come up with. Seriously, and if you
think they're going to pay money to see you lose
to Northwestern and u CLA and think that that's okay
when they flew.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Out to LA for the game and all just fired
the coach, by the way, like the UCLA came in.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Hey, by the way, Deshaun Foster looks so bad right
now because UCLA looks like a former Look at Rob
g your squad.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I mean they looking you have to beat them now.
They were laughable.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's amazing where they are there.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They're world beaters now all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
But my point is, you're right, this is not dude,
he had twelve years. They didn't hire him last year,
three years or whatever, and say, okay, that's not good enough.
Twelve years and the numbers and this is this is
the point about being relevant. It could be like John
Harbaugh won a Super Bowl. It's been many years now.
(07:28):
After a while, Mike McCarthy was in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That was nice. You want to.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, now, ten years of past and after a while
the Packers were relevant the whole time, but they kept
losing in those moments. The Ravens keep losing in the
big moments. Tom right, Uh, Mike Chamelin, Yeah, Mike Timeline, Mike,
Tom that's what we talk about all the time.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh, why does he want a forty one year old coal?
He needs to win.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
He knows he needs to win. Mike Tomlin ain't fooling nobody,
and he needs to win because of the same thing
will happen Like James Franklin after a while, that can
only buy you a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
He won a Super Bowl and lost one. So Tomlin's
been there. I get it.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
But that was years ago. But by the way, they
owe that man forty nine million dollars. Life will be good.
He'll be fine, dug, he'll be fine, and he'll get
another job, will get a job. He's gonna get He'll
get his money. He'll be fine. But my gosh, when
they wanted Jim Fish Jimbo Fisher out at Texas A
and pay him seventy nine six million dollars, to go
(08:33):
home and have a seat is crazy. Think about that.
They were like seventy six million dollars. You know who
else is now noway near the money. But I was
looking it up as crazy completely as not college. But
the Cleveland Browns are paying five quarterbacks right now. They
got to relax too.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's crazy clean.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Because they were gonna go into the off season. You
know they're gonna draft. The Cleveland Browns is playing way
too many quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I just don't understand, seriously, And that's why I brought
up Dug the start. I get it, he's a coach
and and and coaches. You know they feel bad when
other coaches.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Get fired and all that. One of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But come on, Doug, you know sports, okay, And if
you lou if you win two games again this year,
whatever it was, dude, they're not going to renew your
contract and give you a contract extension.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm sorry. I don't care.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Rogerie, here we go again. I gotta be at the
Super Bowl. I gotta be ready.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
That's exactly what I'm thinking right wow, speaking of Super
Bowl out here, like Jon Robbins, we chopped it up
with Bjon Robinson at the Super Bowl he's just a
friend of the sixty something yards run.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I'll throw hands if I have to.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
If and when we got to fight in the super Bowl, Yeah,
I'm taking Iowa Sam because I feel like we're good friends.
We get talk it out, but the you two got
to scrap with whoever else is there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Me and Sam will act like we're fighting. Will be
off to the side, just talking about where we.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Got Well, let me ask you you and and then
Dub young man, who are you fighting?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Get out of that's Jay. Steve goes hiking every weekend.
I got shape like him too.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
We have some good runs together. Man, How you doing good? Yeah? Man,
it's a non person not just you know.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Now we gotta we gotta rope in Manci to fight
Dan Bayern and they do a show together. That's not good.
It's all bad because Rob couldn't give his mouth shaved.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I'm sorry I heard it. It just was like it
got me fired up. But that's part of you wanted
to show. But I'm sorry you you you cannot.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You're gonna end up a topic on the Doug got
I'm wit listen, I am with you.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
You set up here and heard me's many time man,
you can't fire him for this, or come on, they
give one more season.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
This to me, you can't listen.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
You can't be the first coach to lose two games
in a row to non ranked teams that you were
favored by more than twenty points like that.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Can't that just can't happen.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
At last point, real quick for me, I told Rob
g this, this ain't your mama's and your daddy's big ten.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
We got USC in there now, right.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
You got UCLA now, who obviously looks like they've turned
a corner all of a sudden out there.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Who knew that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But you got a Oregon meaning this ain't the ten
eleven teams you used to have to contend with. Now
you got some other big dogs coming in. And we
can't just be falling down to Penn State. That's how
you feel. We can't be getting We already got deal
with Michigan, Ohio State historically. Now we're getting further and
further down the pecking order. And lastly, they're building a
brand new facility that's gonna cost them. I have the
(11:25):
number right, seven hundred million dollar renovation and people gonna
stop making donations.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
This is what I'm telling you like you're looking at
the forty nine million, that's the number to look.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Kevin, Hun, we got a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
We need to start winning and start justifying while we're
doing all this and why people should have putting, and
we're gonna get extra few games and we're gonna be
in the college football playoffs and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So yeah, that's why.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
I mean, listen, it sucks anytime somebody for them, you know, personally,
but this is on the heart of the family. I
giving you twelve years and the guys around you have
two of them back to back, one championship and.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Last thing, Doug, this is not okay. Oh on, let
me do some pushup.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Go.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, no, this is no. This is the last thing.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's not like your Supreme Court justice or the pope.
Those are the only people get to keep their job forever,
right regardless, Sorry, Doug. Coaches get fired when they don't
win sports. As a short menu.
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Speaker 3 (12:59):
He's He's still Moving show. Hey is a no show?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Seriously one for twenty and guess what off of reputation?
They keep walking him in front of Mookie, and Mookie
keeps getting walks and walking in a run.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Pitch to the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Make him earn his keep, Make him earn that seven
hundred million dollar contract that they're paying him for. Last year,
he struggled and they won his fight. They won the
World Series where he didn't pitch and he didn't hit.
This year, they're winning, trying to get back to the
World Series, trying to win back to back for the
(13:39):
first time since the Yankees did it in ninety nine
two thousand and This dude is a no show.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
What has happened? You've seen some of the swings, some
of the at bats. Hello, is this on show?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hey, show up, earn your keep, get some knocks. Enough
already riding wave of everybody else and hiding. That's what
he's doing. Go ahead, defend him, Dodger Homer on.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Wait, I'm about to go full Robbie Cochran.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That's what I call you, your honor. I heard what
the prosecution have to say, but me, as the defense team,
I would like to say I object to the way
in which you are belittling the fact that the man
was walked three times.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's a massive part of success.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
If I walk, Barry Bonds, if I'm walking, Mike Trout,
if I'm watching walking, Mark Cguire, if I'm walking whoever
you wanted to be, and now in this case show Hey,
o Tani, that's a massive part.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
You can't. Can you say this with a straight face?
Hold on?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Okay, hit me again, false, okay, hit me with the
law and order. I'm not done now listen. The benefit
that he also has is that it could potentially be
another two weeks. And this is what I mean. Don't
cover the no you said, James Franklin. Okay, listen, The
(15:12):
best part about this is what's ahead of him, Meaning
they have minimally seven games if they were to go
to the World Series in either team won. But he
has minimum seventeen three to win this series and then
uh you know, for in the World Series or they're.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Sweeping the World Series minimally even if they were to lose.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
I'm saying, but my point is he has a chance
to continue to produce. And I can't lie he ain't
showed up right now. It has definitely been no, hey,
no tany right now. I can't even deny it was.
Didn't even just this year, last last year, last year.
This year is even worse. No, but all jokes acide,
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he's performed badly. H They have walked in so that
that has an advantage for him, the Dodgers. But here
here's the other thing too. It's not just the Robs,
just the one for twenty one. It's that how they're
taking full advantage of him on the inside, and he's
swinging at everything on the inside, swinging everything in the inside.
They and they have found that that he can't resist
that he's swinging uncharacteristically bad at some things. He's striking
(16:12):
out he's usually he does have bad outs, even if
you know, yay, it's part of baseball. You're gonna you
hit thirty percent of something, you're gonna be good. He
is having bad at bats at times, which is unusual.
Now this is where he has the benefit. He still
has so many games ahead of him that we could
potentially forget these first couple of weeks if he ends
up batting, you know, four hundred the rest of the
(16:33):
rest of the postseason, few hole runs, a couple of
big plays here or there, maybe steals a base, whatever
may be, and we can forget that because that's just
human nature. Dodgers won the World Series, second half was
better for him. All will be forgotten. But he has
been bad. I cannot deny. There's no argument he has
been bad. The only other point I make is if
he they slated him to get on the mound later
(16:54):
this series, he gets on the mound, he gets Ruddy's throw, No,
the opposite, he throws six, he throws seven, he goes five.
But a possibility, that is a possibility. That also is
what makes him this unicorn and what can save him.
So if he goes out there and throws a six inning, gym,
maybe a hit or two, but you know, no runs
goes out there. Seven k's again, this is why you
(17:16):
paid the man seven hundred million dollars. So that, thankfully
the other side of the coin is working because I
can't deny it the at bats right now, I am
fabulous and Nate Dogg, I can't deny it. It is
bad right now. There's no way around it. And the
best thing for him is that his team keeps winning.
That keeps giving him more chances, more at bats, and
more opportunities to rewrite this because I can't sit up
(17:36):
here and act like if this wasn't Aaron Judge, we
will be having some conversations here you go. This was
a Rod in his run with the with the Yankees.
We'll be having conversations. Is this were Mookie. Let's say
it was Mookie prior to show hey coming when he
was the big star. We will be having this conversation.
So he absolutely deserves some concern. He absolutely deserves some
criticism right now. But fortunately for him, the Dodgers keep
(17:56):
winning and he has more opportunities to change the narrative.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
But he has to start tonight again.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Last year, pot last week, I should say I pointed
out that the Dodgers bullpen had a chubby e r
Ra right in the eighth inning. Well, oh, Tani is
the opposite as far as that his postseason batting average
is a spelt one thirty eight. That's hey, we all
eight no one thirty eight, All right, we want to
(18:22):
hear from you eight seven seven, Come on, hey ninety
nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I've been fighting for you. This man been down and
you are I've been having your back all year. Hit
me with a law and order.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Are we waiting? Are you waiting for show hey to
show up? Because there's been two postseasons? Now what what?
What's the deal? Do you have another baby? Am I
missing something?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Show?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
How disappointing are you and watching show?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hal Tani?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And is he not a postseason guy? Maybe he's a
regular season guy that maybe he can't perform in those
big moments those six years he was in Anaheim, he
never had to get a chance to play in the playoffs.
Maybe he's not a postseason guy. That Dodgers won a
championship last year where he struggled at the plate.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, you had one, does not know to extra dip
on your chips? Okay, he hit two thirty last year.
They would die to have him at two thirty.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
This year, he's one hundred almost one hundred points lower
than he was last year, and he was.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Better know what for you and Rob g Okay, the
best part about put the camera on me. The best
part about it is he's gonna have at least seven
more games. He's gonna bat four hundred, hit three to
four home runs, and all will be forgotten.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
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Speaker 3 (19:44):
So SGA was.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Asked about this idea of these guys playing late into
their thirties, even into their forties. Right, Here's what SGA said,
I definitely think I can. I won't though, I won't
want to miss that much of my kid's life. That
at a certain point in your career where you reach
your peak and.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I don't fall. Guys are still playing.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
They love the game, but I just feel like you
play this game ultimately to see the best version of
me I can be. Once I figure that out and
I start going down, then it's like Okay, what am
I playing for now? Well, flash forward to today. Russell Westbrook,
former Laker, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz, former Nugget,
(20:23):
former Clipper, former former Oh we don't have all day?
My god, I signed a one year VET minimum deal
to join the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the
Western Conference. Rob, what's up with guys like Russ and others?
We just can't seem to hang it up.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's just they're selfish and they can't let it go,
you know what I mean, Like seriously, because not only
are they just they're taking up a roster spot somebody
else could probably play. They're not going to get anything
from it. Russ isn't gonna win a championship, which he's
never won.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
He just wants to be on the bus, wants to
be on the team, you know, wants to still be
relevant where they're still gonna talk about Russ. And he
made a shot or a basket or steal and look
how much he plays with energy or whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
And a lot of these guys can't let it go.
I'm just I can't understand and and and.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Sga, you know, was he talking about Lebron, Like, seriously,
I don't want to be playing till I'm in my forties.
I got kids in time. I want to spend with
my kids and all that. And I think that is
a little bit of it. Where Lebron, you've been around
for a long time. I don't know what else there is.
You know what I mean that you're chasing even if
(21:42):
you win, You're not passing Michael Jordan. You got I
hate to break it to you. You're the f FOTE
Finals failure of all time. You got more losses, you know,
than any other former MVP.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
There's a fact that the fun votes the Tom Brady
the lowloat.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Man. I'm jumping off your boat. I'm just saying and go.
That's it. I couldn't disagree more with you, selfish. Don't
forget the massault, Kevin Durant, that's right, the most sensitive
of all time. The missault. Very nice.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, I'm listening about to do whatever your OD is
right now. Let me figure out how ohe for you
Look at me. I'm the boat, you are the boat.
I am not.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Buying anything you selling right now.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This is this. I am not you at ross right now.
I'm not buying that deal. You love your career, correct
me if I'm wrong. Yes, but I'm not going to
be here forever.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You already are you and now you might not be,
but you're not. I'm not Bob Bryan and those guys.
So that's where I was going.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Who eighty years those dudes, I'm serious, Like, no, I
know you're right, we've seen it if you went out
the guys nose.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Guys are eighty years old. I'm not saying you're old.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
What I'm saying is you're in a career where you
already had it for you know, however long forty years,
almost forty years, you could have it if you chose
to another ten fifteen.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
We see it.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
We talk about the guys and gals that we see.
Sports is not that you come in at twenty twenty one,
two three, and you might get four or five or
in some cases ten years fifteen, right, And so this
is something that they know is going to end. It
has an expiration date, and they want to enjoy it
as long as possible because at the end of the year,
(23:24):
probably for us or Chris Paul and these guys, that
is it for the rest of your life. Well, look,
they don't have the luxury of us getting to run
our mouths for another thirty forty years.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You know, if we chose to look at where Chris
Paul is again, like he's been on fifteen teams, like
like seriously, what possibly? I start to question, do you
want to be around your family?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Do you love your wife?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I think it's and I'm gonna tell you because it
ain't the money trust.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And it ain't the money because they don't make any money,
you know, like the veterans minimum.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I'm not making their run.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I think their spouses came into this, especially the guys
that were naming your name it or Russ. Russ has
been with his lady, his wife now four years. They
both for at UCLA. Chris Paul been with her for years.
Get it, Lebron, we know their story. My point is
there has been a sign on I know what this is.
I know I has signed up for. Lebron always talks
about how much he owes her on the back end,
(24:18):
Savannah and the children, because they had to sacrifice so
much for me to go do this thing that I
believe I was here for and I'm great for and
they are.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Tom Brady did it for forty five Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Tom Brady came Tom Brady, Monny came in later.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
With the wife. No gods I name kind of they've
been with No.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
But also he also got to the point where he
missed training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Do you know what I mean? Because he's overstayed Tom in.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
My opinion, and again I wasn't sitting in the you know,
at the house when they're having these conversations. I think
one of the differences is she was very vocal about, Hey, man,
this's gotta be it.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Hey, this needs to be it. Hey we done. Hey,
what about your family?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
What I assume to be with the Chris Pauls and
Wes Rustbrook and I kind of know some people you know,
like you know, they're very much all in the whole family, brothers, family,
everybody's all in on. This was the ride that we've
all taken because of you. You have kind of been
the chosen one. You have this amazing opportunity to change
your life, our lives, better lives, and do something.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Nobody's not making that kind of money now. It's not
the money.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, And my point is now at some point to
just be on another team, to just be on the bench,
to just be mopping up. Why would you want to
put yourself It would be like it would be like
me chicking around Fox Sports Radio and I don't know
Scott saying, do you want to do two midday hours
(25:40):
where nobody's listening?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Do you want to do that? I'm dealing with you
right now. What time slot? Rob midnight? I said night?
Job you? No, I didn't mean.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
He didn't.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
We know who he didn't mean. Men, do you are
to turn now? Let me roll my sneeze it now
because I know I'm be scrapping.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Rob Gee, where'd your head go? Because Robgi No, he
finna be scrapping. Yes, Finna finna be scrapping. Telling My
point is, I'm good. I don't want to change spots.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I'm good. We have rowing is these dudes are doing
something that me and you were.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
You had the baseball back or stick or whatever y'all
using in New York back in the day, and I
had the basketball and I'm shooting hoops or we had
the tennis racket, whatever it is, and they're getting to
do something they absolutely love to do.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's such a small minority of people get to do.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
You get to be an NBA player four hundred and
fifty and out of eight billion people on the Earth,
I think they're gonna milk it. And Chris Paul gets
to be a leader, gets to be around, gets to
be that.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Old vet on the team.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Those young players are like, dude, can this guy go
sit out?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So what every team needs? Can you go down?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
We got the first seven eight guys who really are
gonna play? Eight nine guys, The last three, four or
five guys ain't playing, and we need some leadership. We
need some locker room guys. When you know what charn
Berkeley talk about. He always talks about that he had
his vets and how grateful me? I mean my guys.
You talk about people who praise their mentors. He brings
them up every other week. How he didn't know how
(27:09):
to dress, he didn't know how to do money. He
didn't know about a bankcut, he didn't know about all.
How do I get a house? How do I be
become a professional? You need those You could.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Do all that. They don't need to be on a team.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
They could be an assistant coach, they could be a
I would be on the team.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I have to be on the team.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
So yeah, I just think I think it's overstated. I
think you're overstating, like these dudes are like third mid
thirties or you know, thirty six, or they'll have the
rest of their lives.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But they played a long time, is my point, Like
there's a shelf life. Sometimes somebody wants me. Sometimes it's
great to walk away on that kind of level, like
just to be on yet another team. Here's the last
one I'm gonna bring. Yeah, there are kids in this
country who don't know how great Vince Carter was.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Okay, look at his stats.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
He played so long, all of his stats numbers have dropped,
and now a lot of people woul't even consider it.
Go like he was okay, he had a eight year run,
he had two separate careers. He had a career as
a bench player that nobody knows about, and he was
a really star player. He's stuck around too long. I
think that's where you could get hurt if you stick around.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Too I just think there's such a small minority of
guys who do this, Like who we can even have
these conversations about that is worth it?
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Man?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
If I get to make hey, I make two three
four million dollars, which again in money really ain't the
issue at that point for some of these guys. And
I get to do the thing I love, I just
think why not?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Why not? And the most important, I think their families
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
You.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Savannah knows Lebron Russell Westby the wife for years, Chris
probably the White for a year. They kind of know,
the fans all in. Tom Brady's wife knew too, and
she bound he went to fifty two years old and
she told him, hey, brouh, this is it.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No why, but she knew they were all living off
for tom Brady and TV twelve and all that.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
He told him.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
She gave the baby, he gave the aultimatum, he bro,
I'm just telling you
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