November 1, 2025 • 22 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why they have a big problem with the Toronto Blue Jays’ plan to intentionally walk Shohei Ohtani for the rest of the World Series, debate whether Dave Roberts reshuffling the Los Angeles Dodgers lineup ahead of Game 5 was a panic move, and argue whether the Dodgers are already dead in the water heading back to Toronto trailing 3-2 in the World Series.
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well. Tani basically had two great games.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Last night, all right, first play two games out, four
for four, two doubles, two homers, including the game time blast,
and everything. From that point on, he was intentionally walked
basically five times, got four four one, we're intentional, the
fifth ones like, we're not actually gonna intention but we're
not actually gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Over the play. Everything's gonna be seven inches off the place.
He could have done that on all of those.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Instead of giving him like his making him feel special,
I would have just pitched it making him feel special,
because now he's.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Like, oh, they're afraid of me. They didn't win. Its special,
they're afraid of me, and they're not going to pitch
to me the rect of this series. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The game Blue Jays manager John Snyder was asked about
the never ending walks for show Atani and he says, quote,
he had a great game, He's a great player. But
I think after that, talking about the seventh inning home run,
you just kind of take the bat out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So the speculation.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
From that point was, well, are they just not gonna
pitch to Otani the rest of the series?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Then?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And Bob Nightingale caught up with the manager today before
Game four and he said, are you guys actually gonna
intentionally walk Otani to lead off the game?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Then?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If you're gonna take the bat out of his hands,
Schneider says, quote, we haven't decided yet. Okay, so it's
on the table.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
John Schneider, the manager of the Toronto Blue Jays, is
a coward.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What a capital C you hear me? Is this on?
Come on now?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh Tani's all of a sudden that you can't pitch
to him? I get in certain situations. I'm with you, Kelvin.
He almost blew the game in the ninth inning. Would
he put him on with nobody out and if he
didn't slide off the bag, what would have happened?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Man? On second?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They probably would have won the game right there, because
you were too coward to pitch to show hey Otani.
And in reality, the longer it went, the more your
odds or that he wasn't gonna get another hit because
he was four for four.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
If you, if you're a great player, you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Actually get three hits every ten times up, that makes
you a great player. So the odds swing an the
other way after he goes four for four. There are circumstances.
I get it, second and third and first base open.
I get that, create a force at every base. They
had to be a ground ball somewhere. You could force
out at any base, right, I get that. Putting him
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on with nobody, with nobody on in the ninth inning
and talking about maybe we'll decide if we walk him
the lead off the game, Get off of it. Nobody's
that good If I'm a picture on it on.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Whatever happened to competition? Is he hitting with a tennis racket?
What am I looking at? Are you kidding me? I'm
a major league pitcher. I can get show Hail Tani out.
Guess what he batted this year two eighty Guess what
he was batting before last Night two twenty five. Stop
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it this over glorification. Oh my god, We've never.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Seen anything like this. We should just walk him.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh Tony, why don't we give you four RBIs and
four home runs and you don't have to do anything.
We're the competition that's involved. There's no strategy here. This
is being a coward with a capital C. It almost
makes you want to root against the Blue James. If
you're gonna play scared, attack that dude. He has weaknesses
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in this playoff. He struck out sixteen out of thirty
four at bats at one point Kelvin, So there's holes
in his batting, in his batting stands, and you can
get him out.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I tip my cap. He had a great night. You're
not gonna pitched to him. I'm not buying it. So
you absolutely are are right in that. To me, there's
a level of gamesmanship. There's two parts of this. Rob
One part is sometimes at the end of the day,
whatever the sport may be, we also like the game,
and so for instance, I use it at a hack ashack.
(04:38):
Nobody's saying you can't hack a shack. At times it's strategic, right,
Games closed six seven minutes. Ga't laugh, you're down a
handful of points. But the idea of hey, Rob, soon
as the game starts, we're hacking, shack the entire game.
You lose the spirit of the game, right if you're
taking the eagle said all right, from beginning of the game,
we're toss pushing. Period. We figured we can get two
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three yards every time, two three times four story with
us twelve. And then we get it like, no, use
it when you need it. We get it. Fourth and one.
You're on the end zone, you're the goal line, we
get it. And so the intentional walk is created for that.
So the idea that you would go into it knowing
we're gonna intentional walk and what does that say to
your team is also what I'm interested in because your
pitchers had done relatively well. So Tani's been fantastic the
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last handful of games. We know that, But what does
that say to your team when the message is man,
we're walking him period, Like no, hey, let we our
pitching staff can do well. Your catcher can call a game,
your outfield can say, hey, man, he ain't go hit
on the run. And I can catch some d balls
if it come out my way. So I think that
might send a bad message. Also, when you look at
this baseball been around one hundred and fifty years whatever
it is before last night, only Albert Pools have been
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intentionally walked with the bases empty in the World Series game,
and that was back against the Rangers. They did that
in Game five of the twenty eleven World Because it's crazy.
So that's my point is this never happens. It happened
once with you know, fourteen years ago with Albert Poojos.
And then if you're talking about the single season record
of all time being walked, he goes to Andre Dawson
back in nineteen ninety they walked him five times. Loupnella
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walked him five times. So if you're calling it four
with Otani or really was five, then he would match that.
If for keeping it real, I just don't like it
because what it does to me, it takes the spirit
of the game. It takes while we love game, that
takes the competition away, and it would lead to me
them having conversations in the offseason, you know, and they
have those meetings, what do we need to do with
conversation about rule changes, and they would start to have
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a rule change consideration. I say they would, but that
could happen because or less, you're just saying the powers.
The greatness of Otani is the fact that they would
consider a rule change like they did with some Chamberlain
type stuff or somebody. You can't dunk, you can't touch
the rim because you're too dominant. But I just feel
like that's taken away from the spirit of the game
to just simply say, if this game goes five, six
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or seven, we're automatically walking him.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I wish they would walk him to start the game.
I'm dead serious. They very well made.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
They ain't no way. He has what five home runs?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You know what a first pitch should be, A bad
pitch should be, should be right up under his chin.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's where the first pitch. What is this nineteen ninety
two to him? No more? That's what you want to do.
You want to do.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You want to neutralize old tany, make him uncomfortable in
a batter's box, don't make him feel like he's arrived
and nobody can get him out. It's absolutely ridiculous. I'm
not talking about head hunting. I'm talking about get him comfortable,
make him drop that bat and fall to his stomach.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
All right, that's what you want to do. That's how
you shake that dude up. The problem is he's a robot,
and he would literally get back up, do his little
put his bat on the home plate to see how
far his distance is, and get right back to it.
You know what the craziest part of this is, too,
is that if they walk him, don't walk him, whatever,
he himself still has a chance to beat them today
on the mound. If he goes six or seven, he
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might get he might get a shout to that that's true.
But I'm saying the fact that he has a chance
to after what he did yesterday and what he does
get chilled today, and if he goes seven innings and
gives up one and his team, you know, puts up
three or four. Man, kidding, what's six? Last time?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm gonna say he goes three innings and he gives
up six runs.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
How's that? That would be the easiest bet I'll take that.
I ain't gonna lie. Was you shooking when I told
y'all Clayton Kershaw robbed your YouTube? It's not what you
told you. No, no, no, that's not what you said.
I remember not robbed You remember that he said that,
he said to close out the World Series. They didn't know.
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They didn't know they need more. They didn't know they
need it more. That was that was the more thought
it was over. No, they did not. They were like,
come close this thing up. They didn't game wasn't please
He's doing it on what's our Wednesday? Everybody. Let me
tell you something.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Everybody, all Dodger fans have brown shorts thinking.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh my god, you know who did you see his wife?
But she like, oh my god, she was going through it.
Hah suit tighteans. Many got out of it tighter pants?
Is that ai? Well, there's no as that is Rob.
That's Rob Trump right there. That's Donald Parks. Shorts keep
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That's Donald Parker.
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Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's game five and on told you about the Blue
Jays yesterday. Show Hey Otani, this time it counts. He's
the greatest player whoever walked the face.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Of the earth.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He gave up four runs, went zero for three and
struck out twice. I don't want to hear about game three.
Game four, that was the one that would have pushed
him over. They would have had a three to one lead.
Here he was on the mound. Everybody was so small
at Dodger Stadium, even Shane. The Dodgers are winning five games,
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He bet me wings.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Where's my gift card?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Shaye?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I want it now? Five games? My ass.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Otani couldn't even have to come through for them yesterday
when they needed them.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The best part of is Rob said the Blue Jay's
gonna win five depend on what network we watched it.
I wasn't sing I was watching at my other job
and Brian McKenny, you said hi, I said six, Yeah, okay,
I got two out there. Five Yeah. We all out
of the beach right now with flip flops. I'm gonna
take this six. Okay. So here's rob g.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Tonight's news is that Dave Roberts has made some switches.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
He has he has coming into tonight's game five. Again,
whoever wins game five when it's two and.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Two, if you hit me with a percent, you have
to win it the time? You know, you know, everyone
has been since seventy right, everyone sixty nine? If you
know the winner of game one, sixty nine, winner of
Game three, stright. I don't want to hear any more.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So the big story coming into game five is that
the Dodgers, outside of Otani I cannot hit the ball
at all. They haven't been hitting as a team all playoffs.
They're batting two fourteen in this World Series, all right.
Worst of all, the quartet of Mookie Bets, Andy Payez,
Tommy Edmund, Keith k Hernandez batting it combined one forty seven.
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As a result, Dave Roberts making wholesale changes to the
lineup Mookie Bets, who's batted second basically all season, dropped down.
The third pushes ready for me down the fourth. Andy
Pie is out of the lineup altogether. The Dodgers really
moving things around, hoping to get a spark offensively.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You know what, desperation time for the Dodgers and Dave
Roberts is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Because let's be honest, this is on Andy Pie Az
who who's bad? It's ninth, This is on him. He's
the one who has to come.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Out of the lineup, even though the big dogs nobody's hitting,
is it really but the Dodgers or they're not even
down in this series?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's two two, and guess who you have on the mound?
You have your ace.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Blake Snow is on the mount and you're panicking because
of what not? Because of Andy Pyaz, who is a
great defensive player, and he did have twenty seven home
runs kelvin this year right out of nowhere. I'll give
you that. He don't have the track record that these
other guys have. I'll give you that, but that's it's
the reason you're losing. That you're gonna take him out
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of the lineup. Mookie's not hitting month, He's not hitting.
I mean, Freddie's not really hitting. You know, he's had
the walk off and Otani other than those two games,
is not hitting like they're really struggling offensively. And I
just don't stay the course after tonight. You lose tonight. Okay,
(13:24):
I'm with you. You got your a's on the mound.
Stay the course. Tonight was not the night.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's just window dressing. I disagree. I think it was
too I think it's late. I think Dave Roberts was riding.
Andy probably has too long for fifty. At least he's consistent,
consistently bad. And let me tell you why, I actually
wish you to say you said it the ninth hole.
The reason why, Robzie, This is how I know I'll
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be dealing with the hypocrisy of Rob Parker. Rob Parker
said next to me, this entire MLB season going with
Brian Kitty ain't something, Brian. Those home runs don't matter,
they don't matter. Go those solo home runs. What you
screaming about, Oh, Toddy doesn't get RBS, Well, daggit hit
the ninth hole. Wasn't hitting four for fifty maybe those
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home runs would have been two run three run home runs.
Can the man get on the base a little bit?
And I'm not putting it all on him, But what
I'm saying is, in my job, as David Roberts, what
do they call it, you are a manager, let me
manage this line up a little bit. Let me shake
this serget to two. It is too two, but I'm
going on the road for two, and i gotta make
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sure we're absolutely poised to have a chance to win.
And you know what you do towards the end of something.
I don't care if it's a ball game, I don't care.
If it's a fight, you scrap, you bite, you do
anything you can to win. And daggett, if it's moving Andy,
moving Mookie, making some things happen, you have to do that.
And by the way, if it's also bringing a picture
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that we never expected to come in to close the
game or to relieve for a little bit. At this point,
it's all hands on deck, anything goes. We're trying to
win a game, a World Series title, I should say,
so I'm with it. And in fact, again Andy Poie
has had so many chances, even in that eighteen and
you're all right, maybe you can get out something. But
he played two games and it's it's just it's shine.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But wait a minute, but the times Okay, I'm not
not I'm not disagreeing that he hasn't hit right, it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Is the other way.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But but who have they walked show Hey to get
to mook Okay?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
W why?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay? So MOOKI is a bigger part of this. I
think I just saw the graphicing. He has had a
multi hit game since Game three of the NLCS. I think,
like like now, he struggled and that's a big reason.
That's why they keep walking show Hey and not pitched.
If Mookie was swinging the bad there's no there's no
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way that they could walk show Heck.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And this is why MLB bro already know that Mookie
is more likely to come back and be Mookie like
than Andy Pye. He running out of game, so we are,
and that's why you have to start making these changes.
And that's to me why I'm going to do whatever
it takes. And that would be the same thing with
the Blue Jays or if this were an NBA Finals
or in Super Bowl halftime. Well, we're gonna stay Oh
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you make adjustments. You make changes, and baseball it's a
little different. You don't necessarily make adjustments kind of the
same way that other sports do. Maybe pitching you do.
We're gonna pitch them a little differently. But this is
an adjustment, and I'm not mad at it because to me,
look how far you've gotten not making that many adjustments. Now,
to me, it's all right, this isn't working. We've tried it.
(16:32):
Let's make some adjustments to see if we can't finish
this thing. Because you got one more here in La
then you go on a road to another whole country.
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
Rob g to Dodgers are in trouble or not that
some people might think they're right where they want to be.
Last night they lose six to two, and for the
most part, it looked feeble for the most part.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
In the playoffs is look feeble, guys. If you take.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Away the wild card round over the Reds where they
just obliterate at Cincinnati, the Dodgers have hit just two
twenty four in the postseason, a massive drop off from
where they were almost forty.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Points from when they were in the regular season. In
the World Series, they're hitting two to oh one.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
That's a two to oh one and two hundred without
a single extra base hit when they have runners in
scoring positions.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
The Dodgers' bats have popped the Zanny and fallen a
shat hey jo.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Not only that, can I give it to you.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm here to proclaim to all Los Angeles Dodger fans
and all baseball fans in Baseball America that the Dodgers
are officially.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Dead d e A D dead. They are dead.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I know people are saying, they's no way Mooky and
Freddy and old Donny's gonna go out like this. They
just have to win two games. They can win two games.
They can thurny on and naked d you know, start
getting some hits and all that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Have you watched them? That kid, that rookie yesterday, he
got the perfect name. Last name you save it, just
take out the yeah, just called him savage Savage. He
was savage boy.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Twelve strikeouts and hitters one through four, one for fifteen
with eight strikeouts. Can I tell you, Kevin, that three
of those four hitters are en route to the Hall
of Fame. The only guy's will Smith, the catcher. He's
all right, but you know what I mean. Bright The
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other three Otani, Mookie, and Freddy or en route to
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
This kid made mince me with them. He did. He
I can't nobody can defend defend it.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But I just if you're buying into this idea that
some magical switch is gonna be flipped tomorrow, yeah, Friday,
and all of a sudden they're gonna get ten runs
and then they're gonna cruise win the next two games.
I don't think you've watched this series at all, because
not only and here's the saving grace.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yamamoto has been unbelievable. Yamamo Do is.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Going to pitch a no hitter in the dead save
the Dodgers season. Kelvin getting the one bad pitch tomorrow,
and it might cost him. That's how fragile the Dodgers'
offense is. Yamamoto gives up a two run bomb or
a three run bomb. That's it in the game, an
era a walk and somebody hits a three run bomb
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and you say, that's it. That's all he gave up
was the one home run. And the Dodgers might not
be able to score for a run because they haven't
been able to do it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Look, the reality is you ain't lying. And you know me,
I like to tell you when you're wrong. I like
to yell at you, but you ain't wrong when you're right.
And I think what has happened is the Dodgers starting
pitching over the last month of the season prior to
the postseason. Was a Sophora, Miss Mary Mack. It was
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a MATC counter, you know how to MATC counter get
with the ladies, the makeup counter at mac You know
how Sepharia is with the ladies. It was a makeup
that masked how bad their offs fence had been because
they were so spectacular. Blake Snail was inured most of
the year, got back in the form. Yamamoto, who knows
what his record would have been if he got some
more run support. You know his season and there again
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is what I'm talking about, and I'll give you that.
So throughout the season, yamamotos record could have been, he
might have been signed you and if he could get
more run support, that he got horrible and the bullpen
did him in so much throughout the season. Then you
got Oltani getting ready going and Glassdow gets back healthy.
Point is they mass the offensive woes. And one thing
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I've kept saying while I picked the Dodgers, you gotta
at least give it to me. I kept a real
said their offense has been terrible. They just have gotten
timely hits. That's all I've said, meaning like there have
been in these two to two games, and then they
get Will Smith will hit the one, or somebody will
get a double or something, and then they'll win three
to one or three two. And so I've been fully
aware the Dolphins hadn't been great. They've just gotten timely hits,
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which they haven't got as of recent The reason why
they're still in this thing is what you said. It's
because of Yamamodo. He has been spectacular all season long
and he has to go again. And he's the guy.
If there was you could say we're putting this entire
team on your back in the whole city, it's him.
He's gonna complete games twice in this postseason, might have
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to be thrice. And if he goes and does what
he does. Even if he gives up two, you got
a shot. If this were anyone else, I will be saying, man, Mary,
cue up the you know this aw it's all over.
It's a rap. But today he gives them hoping. And
once you get into grade seven it's a crapshoot. Anything
can happen. But he is the singular reason why I
go they've got a chance. He's been spectacular two complete games.
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Maybe he doesn't go complete, maybe gives you eight. But
he can do that. Somebody has the offense has been disrespectful.
The offense has to be offended. You look at it.
Mooki was terrible this year except for the last month.
Remember that he had amazing. I think he was offensive.
I think it was Player of the Month? Was it
September of August? Up until the end, A lot of
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the guys hadn't been spectacular. Now is the chance to
do that. But more importantly, Yamamoto is this singular reason
why I still have hope. Seriously, if it were last
night was up, I'm like, nah Robinson and he's been
great too, But nah, I be Yamamoto is the reason
why
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Well. Tani basically had two great games.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Last night, all right, first play two games out, four
for four, two doubles, two homers, including the game time blast,
and everything. From that point on, he was intentionally walked
basically five times, got four four one, we're intentional, the
fifth ones like, we're not actually gonna intention but we're
not actually gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Over the play. Everything's gonna be seven inches off the place.
He could have done that on all of those.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Instead of giving him like his making him feel special,
I would have just pitched it making him feel special,
because now he's.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Like, oh, they're afraid of me. They didn't win. Its special,
they're afraid of me, and they're not going to pitch
to me the rect of this series. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The game Blue Jays manager John Snyder was asked about
the never ending walks for show Atani and he says, quote,
he had a great game, He's a great player. But
I think after that, talking about the seventh inning home run,
you just kind of take the bat out of his hands.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So the speculation.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
From that point was, well, are they just not gonna
pitch to Otani the rest of the series?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Then?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And Bob Nightingale caught up with the manager today before
Game four and he said, are you guys actually gonna
intentionally walk Otani to lead off the game?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Then?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
If you're gonna take the bat out of his hands,
Schneider says, quote, we haven't decided yet. Okay, so it's
on the table.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
John Schneider, the manager of the Toronto Blue Jays, is
a coward.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What a capital C you hear me? Is this on?
Come on now?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh Tani's all of a sudden that you can't pitch
to him? I get in certain situations. I'm with you, Kelvin.
He almost blew the game in the ninth inning. Would
he put him on with nobody out and if he
didn't slide off the bag, what would have happened?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Man? On second?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
They probably would have won the game right there, because
you were too coward to pitch to show hey Otani.
And in reality, the longer it went, the more your
odds or that he wasn't gonna get another hit because
he was four for four.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
If you, if you're a great player, you.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Actually get three hits every ten times up, that makes
you a great player. So the odds swing an the
other way after he goes four for four. There are circumstances.
I get it, second and third and first base open.
I get that, create a force at every base. They
had to be a ground ball somewhere. You could force
out at any base, right, I get that. Putting him
(02:57):
on with nobody, with nobody on in the ninth inning
and talking about maybe we'll decide if we walk him
the lead off the game, Get off of it. Nobody's
that good If I'm a picture on it on.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The Toronto Blue Jays.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Whatever happened to competition? Is he hitting with a tennis racket?
What am I looking at? Are you kidding me? I'm
a major league pitcher. I can get show Hail Tani out.
Guess what he batted this year two eighty Guess what
he was batting before last Night two twenty five. Stop
(03:35):
it this over glorification. Oh my god, We've never.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Seen anything like this. We should just walk him.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh Tony, why don't we give you four RBIs and
four home runs and you don't have to do anything.
We're the competition that's involved. There's no strategy here. This
is being a coward with a capital C. It almost
makes you want to root against the Blue James. If
you're gonna play scared, attack that dude. He has weaknesses
(04:06):
in this playoff. He struck out sixteen out of thirty
four at bats at one point Kelvin, So there's holes
in his batting, in his batting stands, and you can
get him out.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I tip my cap. He had a great night. You're
not gonna pitched to him. I'm not buying it. So
you absolutely are are right in that. To me, there's
a level of gamesmanship. There's two parts of this. Rob
One part is sometimes at the end of the day,
whatever the sport may be, we also like the game,
and so for instance, I use it at a hack ashack.
(04:38):
Nobody's saying you can't hack a shack. At times it's strategic, right,
Games closed six seven minutes. Ga't laugh, you're down a
handful of points. But the idea of hey, Rob, soon
as the game starts, we're hacking, shack the entire game.
You lose the spirit of the game, right if you're
taking the eagle said all right, from beginning of the game,
we're toss pushing. Period. We figured we can get two
(05:00):
three yards every time, two three times four story with
us twelve. And then we get it like, no, use
it when you need it. We get it. Fourth and one.
You're on the end zone, you're the goal line, we
get it. And so the intentional walk is created for that.
So the idea that you would go into it knowing
we're gonna intentional walk and what does that say to
your team is also what I'm interested in because your
pitchers had done relatively well. So Tani's been fantastic the
(05:24):
last handful of games. We know that, But what does
that say to your team when the message is man,
we're walking him period, Like no, hey, let we our
pitching staff can do well. Your catcher can call a game,
your outfield can say, hey, man, he ain't go hit
on the run. And I can catch some d balls
if it come out my way. So I think that
might send a bad message. Also, when you look at
this baseball been around one hundred and fifty years whatever
it is before last night, only Albert Pools have been
(05:48):
intentionally walked with the bases empty in the World Series game,
and that was back against the Rangers. They did that
in Game five of the twenty eleven World Because it's crazy.
So that's my point is this never happens. It happened
once with you know, fourteen years ago with Albert Poojos.
And then if you're talking about the single season record
of all time being walked, he goes to Andre Dawson
back in nineteen ninety they walked him five times. Loupnella
(06:13):
walked him five times. So if you're calling it four
with Otani or really was five, then he would match that.
If for keeping it real, I just don't like it
because what it does to me, it takes the spirit
of the game. It takes while we love game, that
takes the competition away, and it would lead to me
them having conversations in the offseason, you know, and they
have those meetings, what do we need to do with
conversation about rule changes, and they would start to have
(06:35):
a rule change consideration. I say they would, but that
could happen because or less, you're just saying the powers.
The greatness of Otani is the fact that they would
consider a rule change like they did with some Chamberlain
type stuff or somebody. You can't dunk, you can't touch
the rim because you're too dominant. But I just feel
like that's taken away from the spirit of the game
to just simply say, if this game goes five, six
(06:56):
or seven, we're automatically walking him.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I wish they would walk him to start the game.
I'm dead serious. They very well made.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
They ain't no way. He has what five home runs?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
You know what a first pitch should be, A bad
pitch should be, should be right up under his chin.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's where the first pitch. What is this nineteen ninety
two to him? No more? That's what you want to do.
You want to do.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You want to neutralize old tany, make him uncomfortable in
a batter's box, don't make him feel like he's arrived
and nobody can get him out. It's absolutely ridiculous. I'm
not talking about head hunting. I'm talking about get him comfortable,
make him drop that bat and fall to his stomach.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
All right, that's what you want to do. That's how
you shake that dude up. The problem is he's a robot,
and he would literally get back up, do his little
put his bat on the home plate to see how
far his distance is, and get right back to it.
You know what the craziest part of this is, too,
is that if they walk him, don't walk him, whatever,
he himself still has a chance to beat them today
on the mound. If he goes six or seven, he
(07:56):
might get he might get a shout to that that's true.
But I'm saying the fact that he has a chance
to after what he did yesterday and what he does
get chilled today, and if he goes seven innings and
gives up one and his team, you know, puts up
three or four. Man, kidding, what's six? Last time?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm gonna say he goes three innings and he gives
up six runs.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
How's that? That would be the easiest bet I'll take that.
I ain't gonna lie. Was you shooking when I told
y'all Clayton Kershaw robbed your YouTube? It's not what you
told you. No, no, no, that's not what you said.
I remember not robbed You remember that he said that,
he said to close out the World Series. They didn't know.
(08:35):
They didn't know they need more. They didn't know they
need it more. That was that was the more thought
it was over. No, they did not. They were like,
come close this thing up. They didn't game wasn't please
He's doing it on what's our Wednesday? Everybody. Let me
tell you something.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Everybody, all Dodger fans have brown shorts thinking.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh my god, you know who did you see his wife?
But she like, oh my god, she was going through it.
Hah suit tighteans. Many got out of it tighter pants?
Is that ai? Well, there's no as that is Rob.
That's Rob Trump right there. That's Donald Parks. Shorts keep
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Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's game five and on told you about the Blue
Jays yesterday. Show Hey Otani, this time it counts. He's
the greatest player whoever walked the face.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Of the earth.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
He gave up four runs, went zero for three and
struck out twice. I don't want to hear about game three.
Game four, that was the one that would have pushed
him over. They would have had a three to one lead.
Here he was on the mound. Everybody was so small
at Dodger Stadium, even Shane. The Dodgers are winning five games,
(10:32):
He bet me wings.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Where's my gift card?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Shaye?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I want it now? Five games? My ass.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Otani couldn't even have to come through for them yesterday
when they needed them.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The best part of is Rob said the Blue Jay's
gonna win five depend on what network we watched it.
I wasn't sing I was watching at my other job
and Brian McKenny, you said hi, I said six, Yeah, okay,
I got two out there. Five Yeah. We all out
of the beach right now with flip flops. I'm gonna
take this six. Okay. So here's rob g.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Tonight's news is that Dave Roberts has made some switches.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
He has he has coming into tonight's game five. Again,
whoever wins game five when it's two and.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Two, if you hit me with a percent, you have
to win it the time? You know, you know, everyone
has been since seventy right, everyone sixty nine? If you
know the winner of game one, sixty nine, winner of
Game three, stright. I don't want to hear any more.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So the big story coming into game five is that
the Dodgers, outside of Otani I cannot hit the ball
at all. They haven't been hitting as a team all playoffs.
They're batting two fourteen in this World Series, all right.
Worst of all, the quartet of Mookie Bets, Andy Payez,
Tommy Edmund, Keith k Hernandez batting it combined one forty seven.
(11:51):
As a result, Dave Roberts making wholesale changes to the
lineup Mookie Bets, who's batted second basically all season, dropped down.
The third pushes ready for me down the fourth. Andy
Pie is out of the lineup altogether. The Dodgers really
moving things around, hoping to get a spark offensively.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You know what, desperation time for the Dodgers and Dave
Roberts is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Because let's be honest, this is on Andy Pie Az
who who's bad? It's ninth, This is on him. He's
the one who has to come.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Out of the lineup, even though the big dogs nobody's hitting,
is it really but the Dodgers or they're not even
down in this series?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's two two, and guess who you have on the mound?
You have your ace.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Blake Snow is on the mount and you're panicking because
of what not? Because of Andy Pyaz, who is a
great defensive player, and he did have twenty seven home
runs kelvin this year right out of nowhere. I'll give
you that. He don't have the track record that these
other guys have. I'll give you that, but that's it's
the reason you're losing. That you're gonna take him out
(13:02):
of the lineup. Mookie's not hitting month, He's not hitting.
I mean, Freddie's not really hitting. You know, he's had
the walk off and Otani other than those two games,
is not hitting like they're really struggling offensively. And I
just don't stay the course after tonight. You lose tonight. Okay,
(13:24):
I'm with you. You got your a's on the mound.
Stay the course. Tonight was not the night.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's just window dressing. I disagree. I think it was
too I think it's late. I think Dave Roberts was riding.
Andy probably has too long for fifty. At least he's consistent,
consistently bad. And let me tell you why, I actually
wish you to say you said it the ninth hole.
The reason why, Robzie, This is how I know I'll
(13:52):
be dealing with the hypocrisy of Rob Parker. Rob Parker
said next to me, this entire MLB season going with
Brian Kitty ain't something, Brian. Those home runs don't matter,
they don't matter. Go those solo home runs. What you
screaming about, Oh, Toddy doesn't get RBS, Well, daggit hit
the ninth hole. Wasn't hitting four for fifty maybe those
(14:12):
home runs would have been two run three run home runs.
Can the man get on the base a little bit?
And I'm not putting it all on him, But what
I'm saying is, in my job, as David Roberts, what
do they call it, you are a manager, let me
manage this line up a little bit. Let me shake
this serget to two. It is too two, but I'm
going on the road for two, and i gotta make
(14:33):
sure we're absolutely poised to have a chance to win.
And you know what you do towards the end of something.
I don't care if it's a ball game, I don't care.
If it's a fight, you scrap, you bite, you do
anything you can to win. And daggett, if it's moving Andy,
moving Mookie, making some things happen, you have to do that.
And by the way, if it's also bringing a picture
(14:53):
that we never expected to come in to close the
game or to relieve for a little bit. At this point,
it's all hands on deck, anything goes. We're trying to
win a game, a World Series title, I should say,
so I'm with it. And in fact, again Andy Poie
has had so many chances, even in that eighteen and
you're all right, maybe you can get out something. But
he played two games and it's it's just it's shine.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But wait a minute, but the times Okay, I'm not
not I'm not disagreeing that he hasn't hit right, it.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Is the other way.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
But but who have they walked show Hey to get
to mook Okay?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
W why?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay? So MOOKI is a bigger part of this. I
think I just saw the graphicing. He has had a
multi hit game since Game three of the NLCS. I think,
like like now, he struggled and that's a big reason.
That's why they keep walking show Hey and not pitched.
If Mookie was swinging the bad there's no there's no
(15:49):
way that they could walk show Heck.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And this is why MLB bro already know that Mookie
is more likely to come back and be Mookie like
than Andy Pye. He running out of game, so we are,
and that's why you have to start making these changes.
And that's to me why I'm going to do whatever
it takes. And that would be the same thing with
the Blue Jays or if this were an NBA Finals
or in Super Bowl halftime. Well, we're gonna stay Oh
(16:12):
you make adjustments. You make changes, and baseball it's a
little different. You don't necessarily make adjustments kind of the
same way that other sports do. Maybe pitching you do.
We're gonna pitch them a little differently. But this is
an adjustment, and I'm not mad at it because to me,
look how far you've gotten not making that many adjustments. Now,
to me, it's all right, this isn't working. We've tried it.
(16:32):
Let's make some adjustments to see if we can't finish
this thing. Because you got one more here in La
then you go on a road to another whole country.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
Rob g to Dodgers are in trouble or not that
some people might think they're right where they want to be.
Last night they lose six to two, and for the
most part, it looked feeble for the most part.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
In the playoffs is look feeble, guys. If you take.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Away the wild card round over the Reds where they
just obliterate at Cincinnati, the Dodgers have hit just two
twenty four in the postseason, a massive drop off from
where they were almost forty.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Points from when they were in the regular season. In
the World Series, they're hitting two to oh one.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
That's a two to oh one and two hundred without
a single extra base hit when they have runners in
scoring positions.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
The Dodgers' bats have popped the Zanny and fallen a
shat hey jo.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Not only that, can I give it to you.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm here to proclaim to all Los Angeles Dodger fans
and all baseball fans in Baseball America that the Dodgers
are officially.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Dead d e A D dead. They are dead.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I know people are saying, they's no way Mooky and
Freddy and old Donny's gonna go out like this. They
just have to win two games. They can win two games.
They can thurny on and naked d you know, start
getting some hits and all that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Have you watched them? That kid, that rookie yesterday, he
got the perfect name. Last name you save it, just
take out the yeah, just called him savage Savage. He
was savage boy.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Twelve strikeouts and hitters one through four, one for fifteen
with eight strikeouts. Can I tell you, Kevin, that three
of those four hitters are en route to the Hall
of Fame. The only guy's will Smith, the catcher. He's
all right, but you know what I mean. Bright The
(18:56):
other three Otani, Mookie, and Freddy or en route to
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
This kid made mince me with them. He did. He
I can't nobody can defend defend it.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
But I just if you're buying into this idea that
some magical switch is gonna be flipped tomorrow, yeah, Friday,
and all of a sudden they're gonna get ten runs
and then they're gonna cruise win the next two games.
I don't think you've watched this series at all, because
not only and here's the saving grace.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yamamoto has been unbelievable. Yamamo Do is.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Going to pitch a no hitter in the dead save
the Dodgers season. Kelvin getting the one bad pitch tomorrow,
and it might cost him. That's how fragile the Dodgers'
offense is. Yamamoto gives up a two run bomb or
a three run bomb. That's it in the game, an
era a walk and somebody hits a three run bomb
(19:53):
and you say, that's it. That's all he gave up
was the one home run. And the Dodgers might not
be able to score for a run because they haven't
been able to do it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Look, the reality is you ain't lying. And you know me,
I like to tell you when you're wrong. I like
to yell at you, but you ain't wrong when you're right.
And I think what has happened is the Dodgers starting
pitching over the last month of the season prior to
the postseason. Was a Sophora, Miss Mary Mack. It was
(20:23):
a MATC counter, you know how to MATC counter get
with the ladies, the makeup counter at mac You know
how Sepharia is with the ladies. It was a makeup
that masked how bad their offs fence had been because
they were so spectacular. Blake Snail was inured most of
the year, got back in the form. Yamamoto, who knows
what his record would have been if he got some
more run support. You know his season and there again
(20:46):
is what I'm talking about, and I'll give you that.
So throughout the season, yamamotos record could have been, he
might have been signed you and if he could get
more run support, that he got horrible and the bullpen
did him in so much throughout the season. Then you
got Oltani getting ready going and Glassdow gets back healthy.
Point is they mass the offensive woes. And one thing
(21:07):
I've kept saying while I picked the Dodgers, you gotta
at least give it to me. I kept a real
said their offense has been terrible. They just have gotten
timely hits. That's all I've said, meaning like there have
been in these two to two games, and then they
get Will Smith will hit the one, or somebody will
get a double or something, and then they'll win three
to one or three two. And so I've been fully
aware the Dolphins hadn't been great. They've just gotten timely hits,
(21:28):
which they haven't got as of recent The reason why
they're still in this thing is what you said. It's
because of Yamamodo. He has been spectacular all season long
and he has to go again. And he's the guy.
If there was you could say we're putting this entire
team on your back in the whole city, it's him.
He's gonna complete games twice in this postseason, might have
(21:49):
to be thrice. And if he goes and does what
he does. Even if he gives up two, you got
a shot. If this were anyone else, I will be saying, man, Mary,
cue up the you know this aw it's all over.
It's a rap. But today he gives them hoping. And
once you get into grade seven it's a crapshoot. Anything
can happen. But he is the singular reason why I
go they've got a chance. He's been spectacular two complete games.
(22:13):
Maybe he doesn't go complete, maybe gives you eight. But
he can do that. Somebody has the offense has been disrespectful.
The offense has to be offended. You look at it.
Mooki was terrible this year except for the last month.
Remember that he had amazing. I think he was offensive.
I think it was Player of the Month? Was it
September of August? Up until the end, A lot of
(22:33):
the guys hadn't been spectacular. Now is the chance to
do that. But more importantly, Yamamoto is this singular reason
why I still have hope. Seriously, if it were last
night was up, I'm like, nah Robinson and he's been
great too, But nah, I be Yamamoto is the reason
why
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