January 17, 2019 • 30 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob discuss Kyrie Irving's public apology to LeBron James, and debate whether or not Kyrie and LeBron could ever link up together again as teammates. The guys also explain why the New England Patriots - and not the Golden State Warriors - are clearly the most hated team in sports. And, former NBA coach and general manager Stu Jackson joined the show to discuss the '3-point' epidemic that has taken over the League.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Kyrie Irving apologizes
to Lebron James story. It's not a non story. Kyrie
even said, this is a big deal to me because
I had to call Bron, not Lebron, not Lebron James,
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not my former teammate. I had to call Brian even.
That is some love. You know what's great? All right,
Kyrie throwing love? All right, here's the sound. I tell
you one thing, obviously, this is something that it was
a big deal for me because I had to call Bron,
you know and tell him, like, you know, I apologize
for being that young player that wanted to everything at
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his you know, at his fingertips, and I wanted everything
to be at you know, my threshold. I wanted to
be the guy that led us to change. I wanted
to be the leader. I wanted to be all that
and you know, the responsibility of being the best player
in the world and leading a team, it's something that's
not meant for many people. And Brown was one of
those guys that came to Cleveland and tried to really
show show us what it's like to win a championship
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and it was hard for him and sometimes getting the
most out of the group. It's not the easy, easiest
thing in the world. Oh did you hear that? Did
you listen to that? Rod Parker? Let me hit hit
on a few things and then I'm gonna give you
the floor because I know you you want to rant
number one. That was a message to Kyrie's young teammates
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that he said aren't ready to win. It was a
message of hey, guys, I was where you at. I
get it. I understand you think you know everything. You
think you don't have to listen to the older guy.
So he's trying to get them to listen to him,
because I don't think they appreciated him calling them out.
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Jalen Brown even said as much when he came out
the next day and was like, Hey, it's all of
us it's not just the young guys. And here's the
other thing that Kyrie asked, the battle in that locker room,
don't tell me that in the backs, if not the
middle or the front of their minds in that Celtics
locker room, they're not thinking, yo, Kyrie. We know you
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the man, we know you got crazy handles, and you're
the best player on this team individually, without question. But bruh,
we came within one game of the of the NBA
Finals without you. We played better without you. The ball
was moving better without you. So don't tell us we
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don't know how to win, because all of us are learning,
including you. And so that was the first thing. The
second thing is what was not even considered a remote
possibility two days ago, three days ago, a reunion with Lebron,
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James and Kyrie ever wasn't even on anyone's radar. And
I'm not saying it's gonna happen. Don't get me wrong.
Don't go out there and say, oh, Chris Bruce are
said Kyrie is going to the Lakers. I'm not saying that.
But what I am saying is it is now a possibility.
What three days ago was not a remote possibility is
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now within the realm of possibility, and I think it
actually could make a lot of sense. Rob Parker, I
know you don't agree. I could not disagree more. It's
not even as beause it's not even a possibility because
he didn't say I regret asking for a trade away
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from Lebron. If you know how to get what he
said was talking to the younger players who had a
little pushback, got their panties in a bunch because he
called them out. So this was a way to show
them that he was once one of those guys and
he didn't always get it, and that it was a
very mature thing to do. It really was because to
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apologize to Calebron. Calebron, No, and I'm told it is
it's very mature. I'm told from good sources that it
was genuine. No, it's a mature it's a mature thing.
So I like that. But why do you do it?
But but because maybe he was trying to soften the blow,
especially when those guys really got worked up over what
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he was saying to them. And I think he was saying,
I was once one of you guys when he came
to Cleveland. Do you know what I mean, and he
was trying to get things, so it all fits. I
get that. I really think that it told you a
lot about how deep and and real uh Kyrie is
because because you don't have to do that, you don't
have to make it publicly made the thing though, you
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see you you don't want to even entertain the possibility. No,
because I don't think they're playing again. I don't believe
that at all. I think this is this is this
is the NBA media hype machine, no matter what. Media
not even saying it. I'm saying, just hear me out,
no matter who comes becomes available, that everybody is going
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to play with Lebron, no matter this is Chris Kyrie.
Oh wait a minute, san Antonio's dumb. He goes to
the Lakers anyway, so they might as won't trade him.
Why don't they trade him there? Then it's like, okay,
uh uh, Jimmy Butler's name comes up, or whoever, whoever,
Anthony Davis, whoever comes available or says anything, is automatically
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linked to Lebron because everybody knows he can't win by himself,
so they went by himself. I mean, anybody went by
what I'm saying that he can't win with the team
that he has, so everybody's always trying to find his suitor.
I got news for you. Kyrie couldn't win with Lebron either.
The last two times they lost eight out of nine.
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Last one time, no, they lost eight out of nine
games to the war and the last four Kyrie was
gone when right, they lost four out of five, and
that they may have. Look could they beat first of
all if he went to like we didn't weigh ahead.
They lost twice with Kyrie, and my other thing is no,
but the first time Kyrie was hurt, right, but they
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they have won that series? They lost two one week
without Kevin Love and Kyrie. Kyrie averaged twenty eight points
on lebron average triple double and they lost four games
to one. I'm talking about right, So they But you,
kyar you, this supporting cast in LA might be better
than what they I'm not buying. Have you watched them
against the Knicks and the Cavaliers. I'm not buying it.
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I just don't believe that Kyrie's gonna play with him.
What what what? Kyrie went and you noticed Chris. What
bothered him the most is after they want a title
he wanted to bring Chris Paul, I don't know that
this is what I heard. I heard that. First of all,
Lebron and Kyrie never had a big argument or blow
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up themselves. Kyrie used to help Lebron in drills work
on his handle. Lebron Kyrie would be at Lebron's house
on occasion at least once talking about business, you know,
learning from Lebron about your businesses off the court. And
now Kyrie is trying to put together a media company. Okay,
so their relationship was Okay, I'm not gonna paint it
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like it was great because Kyrie in Cleveland was to himself.
He's like coming in playing ball and then pretty much
with his own people. Okay, So I'm not trying to
paint that they were best friends. But they never had
to blow out, blow up. One of the things there
as many, but one of the things that happened was
Kyrie got when that they were there was a three
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way trade when involving Paul George, where Kyrie would have
got shipped to Phoenix. Paul George would have went to
the Calves and some Phoenix would have sent a draft
lottery pick and somebody else to Indiana, and he looked
at it like, hold on, there's no way this is
being discussed and Lebron doesn't know about it. So Kyrie
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jumped to the conclusion, now Lebron denies that he had anything,
he knew anything about it. You think they're making deals
without Lebron. I think it was a deal. I think
it was talk. But now I think there's talk without Lebron,
and I think if maybe, if if it gets not maybe,
if it gets to a point where we're gonna do it,
then you go to les to I don't think. I
definitely don't think Lebron was sitting there with David Griffin
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when you're talking about trade possibility. Let me finish the story.
Kyrie jumped to an inclusion that Lebron had to be
involved in it. Didn't go to Lebron and say, yo,
what's up. He just went to Griffin and said, getting
me out of here. That was you're telling me he's
spending time at his house. They're they're going over stuff,
but he doesn't feel compelled to ask lebrono on what's
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going on? Well that wasn't the same days that. No, no no, no,
But I'm just saying, yeah, that's what, But that doesn't
make that doesn't make sense to me, that you don't
have a relationship. Just to even ask, if they told
me that they were gonna bring in Doug god Leave
to be on the odd couple, I would say, Chris, uh,
that's you and me. I agree he should have went
to Lebron. That doesn't make sense relationships. I'm not saying
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it was like I said, I didn't have a good
enough relationship. I understand, but it was never like you
know what I mean, when you when you go in
and you demand to get out, and you tell them people,
if you don't do it, I'm gonna have surgery. So
I won't play. That's a guy who desperately wanted to
get away from Lebron. I do not n ot see
any circumstance where he's coming back. Why would he have
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to say I apologized, Hena, He didn't. He said he
didn't have a even he said about being a young
player who didn't accept maybe his guidance early. That's what
he said. He didn't say, you apologized for leaving. That
never even came up. I am with you in that.
I don't I'm not saying Kyrie is coming to La.
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What I am saying is it's a possibility. Now. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Brussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart
Radio app. All right, we're talking about former NBA coach
and general manager and now a Turner Sports NBA analyst
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is none other than Stu Jackson Stu Wills to the
Eye Couple. Hey guys, thanks so much for having me man,
long time listener, first time and let me you know,
when Stu uh coach to Knicks. I was one of
the be writers back then in those days. Stu. Remember Stu?
How was he? How did you? Did he on your nerves?
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I'm sure he did. No, No, he didn't get on
my nerves. He was very professional, very knowledgeable, and he
killed me. Chris, Oh, that's what he did. That's what
I'm saying, like, Hey, hey, Stud, you tho his motto
if I'm writing, I'm ripping. That's well, Stud, Let's let's
get right to it. I saw your tweet last night,
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breaking news. I'm reading it now, breaking news. Three bound
the Brooklyn Nets and Houston Rockets have just collectively attempted
one hundred three point shots in the game. This three
point shooting epidemic needs a cure. Hashtag competition Committee, hashtag NBA,
hashtag based basketball caretakers. I'm with you, but tell me
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what you meant, Like, what sparked you to send out
that tweet? Well, actually, you know, Chris, I, it's something
I've you know, talked about on air, talked about it
on my podcast, and last night set me over the edge.
You know, when you had two teams combined with over
one hundred three point shooting attempts and in half of
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all the shots taken in the game. Understanding it wasn't
overtime games. It's getting to be too much. And I
feel from a basketball standpoint, purely of the three point
shot as it relates to the games at a tipping point.
And I say that, no, and I say that, you know,
because I don't want to sound like I'm talking out
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on both sides by mouth. Listen, scoring is up four
points a game over last year, and it's the highest
jump in the one one year jump in twenty years. Okay,
the NBA is in its golden years. Fan support enthusiasm
and is all time high. It's an exciting shot. I
get all that, but we've really lost a major parts
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of the game of basketball. I agree with you as
the game is hard for me to watch and current
state there's not a lot of defense going on. And
then stude there are somethings when you talking about fans
support and whatnot. Where we've seen the ratings and sometimes
it's been blamed on Lebron moving to the West, but
the TNT ratings are down twenty six. ESPN's ratings are down.
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Are people I know people still come to the games,
but are they enjoying these high scoring, lack of defense games. Well,
you know, I think the proof will be as we
go forward here, Rob, I mean, we'll see. But I
think it's incumbent upon the NBA to be proactive from
a rural standpoint to maybe to try to alter the
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way the game is played. And what you're alluding to
is that are we not watching a game? It's very homogeneous, right,
Everyone plays the same way except for maybe you know, Memphis,
except for maybe San Antonio at times. But every team,
every offensive scheme seems to be the same. It's handoff,
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it's cut it's pick and roll after pick and roll,
or in the case of Houston, a lot of unassisted
threes where we just dribble in the three point shots.
And I just wonder, from a spacing standpoint, from the aesthetics,
from the number of variety of players that usually occur
in the game, if we're just not seeing something that's
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the same all the way around with every team. And
that's my issue. I mean, look, the three point shot
is a great shot, it's exciting, but do we have
to have it the entire game? And my suggestion has been,
why not do one of two things. Cut the three
point line off at the corners, just have an arc
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at twenty three nine across the court and you have
no corner three. Or and or just make the three
point shot a scoring three at certain parts of the game,
Chris rob Maybe at the last two minutes of each quarter,
maybe at the last two of each half, in the overtime.
But something to bring some variety back into the game
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of basketball. I love your first point is something I've
been saying as well. Basically, eliminate that corner three, and
I think what that would do. Stu for the listeners
out there who might not be thinking about it. That
would necessitate the return of post play and the mid
range shot because you wouldn't be able to plant four
guys on the three point line because it would only
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be so long, right, So you would have a variety
of offenses and ways to score now correct, And I
still think even with the arc, the spacing would still
be the same. In other words, you'd still get a
space floor that's available for cutting and driving and penetrating
and dishing. But at least it would add that not
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only the low post game, but give some credibility to
a mid range game as well. And you know, not
being able to shoot that corner three. Right, it's the
eye couple. We're joined by former NBA coach and general
manager and also a long time it worked for the
NBA in the front office of the league, Stut Jackson.
Check out his podcast on iTunes. It's called Everything Basketball,
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Everything Basketball, Stu. Are there other people, you know, as
you said, caretakers of the game. I don't want you
to name names necessarily, but are there other people as
concerned about this as you are? Because, like you saying ratings,
I guess maybe ratings are a little down, but the
game that's popular as ever. I mean, it's just growing
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by leaps and bounds. Are they just happy with that
or are there really people that feel like, look, we
have to keep an eye on this and maybe make
some changes. You know, listen, I don't think listen. You know,
anytime I know that's from experience, makes a strategic move
with respect of the game, there has to be a
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business reason connected with it, and right now, there's no
business reason to get rid of the three point shots
for all the reasons we just talked about. It's exciting,
the ratings are up, you know, the stands are being filled.
But I just am trying to, you know, alert people
that we got to get out ahead of this because
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I love the NBA basketball. We're in a great time
in the game. But at some point do fans, educated
fans get to point where they go you know, it's
the same thing. You know, they're jacking up threes, they're
running around, they don't the perception is no defenses being played.
They take a fast break and instead of going to
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the rim, they step back to the corner. I don't
know if that's the best thing for the game. The game.
As a fan, I would say that. So right now,
it's not an issue. I'm just saying, as someone who
loves the game, do you get out ahead of this
and maybe do something a little bit more strategic and
interesting in terms of adjusting the rules. And we know
how it goals. In sports, all these leagues are copied
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at leagues. Okay, so the Warriors have success, they see it.
Everybody decides, But everybody doesn't have a Steph Curry or
Clay Thompson, right, everybody didn't have those players, but yet
they still play like that. Whereas before you would have
the Knicks had a different style, and the Pistons had
a different style, and the Phoenix Sungs played differently. You
know what I mean, you played with what you had
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and that's what your right, Stu. We don't see that anymore,
and it stinks, it does. And the guys, I mean,
let's let's you know, you bring up a good point.
Let's switch sports. I mean, tell me you don't watch
the NFL right now and think, man, everybody just throw
the ball up and they throw the ball every down, right.
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I mean for me, now, I'm I don't know football.
I'm a casual football fan, and I sit there and
I go man, this is kind of born. Man. Everybody
does the same thing, and I don't want to see
that happen to NBA or collegiate basketball. Yeah, and you
mentioned baseball like they it's all home runs and strikeouts.
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The analytics, right, the analytics have really uh altered sports
now because things that they used to do steal in
basis in baseball and bunting people over, they won't do it.
It's totally it's a whole run or nothing. Yeah. But here,
you know, analytics are great. I think they're great at
proving a point or disproving a point. But you know,
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Steve Kerr said it, the best guys with respect to
the three point shot is that, yes, I'm an offensive
efficiency standpoint. The three point shot is a more efficient shot.
But he said, look, the more twos that you score,
in other words, when you shoot a higher percentage, that
just means you don't have to defend the fast break
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as much. With threees, you're shooting a much less, much
lower percentage and now defensively you're defending the fast break more.
But if you shoot a higher percentage shot, you're defending
the fast break less. And he said his preference is
to defend less less beast. Great, and that's why the Warriors,
as much as they shoot the three, they're one of
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the best mid range games. Excuse me, mid range teams
in the league. I was gonna say, I'm glad you
brought up the Warriors because people think they just hoist
threes like Houston. No, they get backdoor layups, they shoot
mid range shots. They don't shoot the three nearly as
much as people seem to think they do. No, it's perception,
there is not the reality, right right, Well, Stu, Great,
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we really appreciate it, and I'm with you. I think
the league has to really keep an eye on this
and get out in front of it. So great job.
I appreciate it. And still, you know, you were very
lucky that you didn't have Chris Bussard as a beat
writer when you were coaching, so I wouldn't have ripped
you as much as Rob much. All right, Stu, And
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remember Chris, Chris. I never got a public public apology
from Rob. It's apologies are in the air. Ye go ahead,
all right, ste I'm sorry, all right that I ripped
you when I was writing, because usually when I'm writing,
I'm ripping, all right, Thanks Stu. Remember to check out
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his podcast Everything Basketball. You can download it on iTunes.
Thanks Stue. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific. DeMarcus Cousins, who will
make his season debut in Golden State tomorrow night, he
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says that, no, Patriots aren't the most hated team. It's us,
the Golden State Warriors. Here's the sound. Were the most
hated team in sports. So you think you're the most
hated team in sports. I would say that there are
a lot of people in this country who love to
hate the Yankees or the Cowboys. Put us up there.
I would say the Warriors. I for sure. You know
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they hate Kevin, they hate me. I think only how
they really like the Steff. They may hate him as well.
They hate Draymond, but uh, I mean it is what
it is, so I can't I can't worry about that.
That was courtesy of ESPN. DeMarcus Cousins, who again making
his season debut tomorrow in the starting lineup for the
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Golden State Warriors as they play the Clippers tomorrow night.
He told that to Rachel Nichols. Look, if you had
to make no way that the Golden State Warriors are
the most hated team in sport. No, people don't like
what what went on and what how do you know
what they what they did when they put that team together.
But Chris, if you had to put together a list,
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I got four names or teams that are above them
or no, just for I have them, include to have
them as number four. I have three other teams ahead
of them that I think people hate more. Okay, So
and if you wanted to you, all right, so let
me give you my list, or you want to write
them down, and you know, let me give they're the same,
So go ahead write here. You know what three I'm
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talking about? Right, So write them down, and I might
put notre Day is number five? No like nationally? Maybe
all right? So you also want to put now like
current It could be mamma, all right. So we got
the four Warriors. We're both saying, write a number four, right, Okay,
give me your other three? Dallas? What is the quarter?
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But New England Dallas and the New York Games New
England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys, New York Games. Absolutely absolutely those
teams are ahead, and I'll say currently, I think the
Patriots are the most hated team in the country. I
think historically you would say the Dallas Cowboys are the
most beloved and the most hated at the same time
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in the NFL. But right now, oh, it's definitely the
New England Patriots. I think the New England Patriots are
not only the most hated team in the NFL, most
hated team in sport. And I think the Yankees fell off.
They still hated. Don't get me wrong, because you know that,
but they got like Judge and some players that are
cooling aren't, do you know what I mean? Like, Also,
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they haven't won since two thousand nine, right, and it's
been a while. They haven't in the last nineteen years.
They've won and been to one World Series nineteen nineteen years.
Their last one was two thousand and one two when
they won, when they won the three out of five,
three out of four, right, was it three years? Yeah?
Three out of they went back and lost and lost,
right they lost in two thousand and two. Okay, but
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then but since oh yeah, yeah, they haven't won any
other World Series. Yeah, So so you have that's what
you have. To understand, like you got in the Cowboys
having one since we know ninety five, right, so you
have a whole another generation that's like, why do I
don't think that much about the Cowboys because they're never
in the playoffs and they don't win, right, Yeah, I
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mean differs out of Cowboys. It's teams that win a
lot when you just go like and that was the
same thing I tell people all time, like there's a
revisionist history when people think about the Bulls. Everybody wasn't
on Michael Jordan's bandwagon when that was going on. They see,
I do think I was covering during that time. Yeah,
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I heard covering Toil nineties five. Okay, I covered during
the time early on, and there was a lot of
people that hated Michael Jordan, the Bulls and also just
then you were you in Detroit, No, obviously in Detroit,
but I was in New York and in New York too, right,
But there was another wif because they were in the way, right.
But I just remember that it wasn't all the love.
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People used to say, Hey, Michael Jordan, he's only a dunker.
He doesn't make anybody balance before he right, That's what
I'm saying once he started winning, yeah, I didn't feel that,
and I would here's this is my opinion. Now I
want to hear yours to your response to it. In
New York, of course, because the Knicks were good with
Patrick Wright and the Bulls kept beating them. And in
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Detroit where they kept beating the Bulls, but then of
course Jordan they finally broke to bling them. He was
very much hated, hated, But I would say in most
of the country, the Bulls and Jordan were beloved. I
don't I don't know. There were people I think they
wanted to see and this is what I used to
always say Madison Square Garden covering those games, Nick fans
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wanted to see Michael Jordan's show out. They did, but
they wanted the Knicks to win the game. They wanted
Michael to have a big night dunks, but they wanted
the Knicks to win. There was never like they're cheering
for the Bulls to win the game. Well, and I
think it was probably like that in most, if not
all NBA reads, Like you know, diehard fans are gonna
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pull for their team, and when they went to see
him playing Phoenix, I'm sure they wanted him to go
ahead and get forty and doing, but the Suns win. Yeah,
but I'm kind of talking about you know, I don't
I don't know. I don't know if it's we didn't
and we didn't name them in there. So I agreed
that they didn't fit into where when we're talking about
right history historically, because but I will say the Warriors
are up there, um even more so than the Bulls
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during that time. But definitely it's the Patriots, and it's
the Patriots not just you know people in Boston awe
and yell. It's because we win all the time. And
it's not just that because I think there's a part
of it that people can't also get past of the
cheating scandals. That's part of it. It's not like you're
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not good enough just to win, because I always say
Tom Brady should be like Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter won
five championships, crystal played twenty years with the Yankees, and
a crystal clear record. Tom Brady doesn't have that, and
I think that that's the part that people look at it.
That's why you can't fully embrace them. There's something that
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doesn't feel right about the Patriots. I look, I don't
the cheating doesn't really come into my thinking when I
to think about the Patriots, but and I do think
it does for a lot of people. So I agree,
it's not just the winning obviously bothers people right after.
It's also the cheat. It is, it's a combination. Yeah,
there's no question about it. They're kind of like they're
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I mean, we've said it. They're the Spurs of the
NFL and the Spurs. I don't know if they're hated.
They've got a little more colored than the Spurs. The
Spurs were so now because they were so vanilla and
vanilla right, and there big stars wearing sandals, and they
were were a dull team and they never won two
in a row, which also like when you talk about
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dynastyam you can't be it. You gotta win at least
two back to back or three in a row for
somebody to be it, or two out of three or
three out of four or something like that. Why do
you think, and we want to open it up to
you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine, who do
you think is the most hated team? In sports, or
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is it the Warriors? Give us a call? But why
do you think the Warriors are definitely the most hated
team right now in basketball? Part of me, I gotta
be honest, Rob, part of me feels like hated is
actually a little strong. I would say most disliked. I
don't feel like they're hated. I think everybody in the league.
There are teams that players that don't like Steph you know, uh,
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they're they're the teams obviously are envious of their success.
I feel like hated is a little strong. Um maybe,
but it's a there's a big dislike, like there are
people who don't want to see the Warriors win, you know,
like like the end of the like when they got
I remember so many fans on social media were going
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crazy when they picked up Boogie Cousins. Oh they're all
I'm done with the NBA. I don't want to watch
this anymore, you know what I mean. I don't think
they've become more hated since Boogie because the key thing
was obviously Duran. Yeah no, they don't, no doubt about it.
But they haven't seen Boogie with them yet. You don't
even know the good point. People will be like, this
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is ridiculous. I can't stand this team. I can't believe
they picked up Bookie because we haven't seen them with them.
That's a great point. Then you're right if he comes
gets in perfectly and they just are it cause look,
if he fits in perfectly, there's no stop, there's no
stop and run through everybody. You're right, that's a great
point that I think they would be more hated than.
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Like I said, I think they're disliked. I don't feel
like because I think a look, a lot of people
there are those that don't like Steph, but a lot
of that as people in the league, And I don't
know if they I wouldn't say they don't like it,
but you know, they a lot of players feel like, look,
he doesn't play d he doesn't. It's not only that
he's not a good defender, because Damian Lillard, a lot
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of these big time point guards aren't good defenders, hardened,
but Steph, they a lot of them feel like he
doesn't even take up the challenge of guarding the opposing
point guard if he's a really good point right,
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Kyrie Irving apologizes
to Lebron James story. It's not a non story. Kyrie
even said, this is a big deal to me because
I had to call Bron, not Lebron, not Lebron James,
(00:45):
not my former teammate. I had to call Brian even.
That is some love. You know what's great? All right,
Kyrie throwing love? All right, here's the sound. I tell
you one thing, obviously, this is something that it was
a big deal for me because I had to call Bron,
you know and tell him, like, you know, I apologize
for being that young player that wanted to everything at
(01:08):
his you know, at his fingertips, and I wanted everything
to be at you know, my threshold. I wanted to
be the guy that led us to change. I wanted
to be the leader. I wanted to be all that
and you know, the responsibility of being the best player
in the world and leading a team, it's something that's
not meant for many people. And Brown was one of
those guys that came to Cleveland and tried to really
show show us what it's like to win a championship
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and it was hard for him and sometimes getting the
most out of the group. It's not the easy, easiest
thing in the world. Oh did you hear that? Did
you listen to that? Rod Parker? Let me hit hit
on a few things and then I'm gonna give you
the floor because I know you you want to rant
number one. That was a message to Kyrie's young teammates
(01:51):
that he said aren't ready to win. It was a
message of hey, guys, I was where you at. I
get it. I understand you think you know everything. You
think you don't have to listen to the older guy.
So he's trying to get them to listen to him,
because I don't think they appreciated him calling them out.
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Jalen Brown even said as much when he came out
the next day and was like, Hey, it's all of
us it's not just the young guys. And here's the
other thing that Kyrie asked, the battle in that locker room,
don't tell me that in the backs, if not the
middle or the front of their minds in that Celtics
locker room, they're not thinking, yo, Kyrie. We know you
(02:36):
the man, we know you got crazy handles, and you're
the best player on this team individually, without question. But bruh,
we came within one game of the of the NBA
Finals without you. We played better without you. The ball
was moving better without you. So don't tell us we
(02:57):
don't know how to win, because all of us are learning,
including you. And so that was the first thing. The
second thing is what was not even considered a remote
possibility two days ago, three days ago, a reunion with Lebron,
(03:18):
James and Kyrie ever wasn't even on anyone's radar. And
I'm not saying it's gonna happen. Don't get me wrong.
Don't go out there and say, oh, Chris Bruce are
said Kyrie is going to the Lakers. I'm not saying that.
But what I am saying is it is now a possibility.
What three days ago was not a remote possibility is
(03:40):
now within the realm of possibility, and I think it
actually could make a lot of sense. Rob Parker, I
know you don't agree. I could not disagree more. It's
not even as beause it's not even a possibility because
he didn't say I regret asking for a trade away
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from Lebron. If you know how to get what he
said was talking to the younger players who had a
little pushback, got their panties in a bunch because he
called them out. So this was a way to show
them that he was once one of those guys and
he didn't always get it, and that it was a
very mature thing to do. It really was because to
(04:24):
apologize to Calebron. Calebron, No, and I'm told it is
it's very mature. I'm told from good sources that it
was genuine. No, it's a mature it's a mature thing.
So I like that. But why do you do it?
But but because maybe he was trying to soften the blow,
especially when those guys really got worked up over what
(04:47):
he was saying to them. And I think he was saying,
I was once one of you guys when he came
to Cleveland. Do you know what I mean, and he
was trying to get things, so it all fits. I
get that. I really think that it told you a
lot about how deep and and real uh Kyrie is
because because you don't have to do that, you don't
have to make it publicly made the thing though, you
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see you you don't want to even entertain the possibility. No,
because I don't think they're playing again. I don't believe
that at all. I think this is this is this
is the NBA media hype machine, no matter what. Media
not even saying it. I'm saying, just hear me out,
no matter who comes becomes available, that everybody is going
(05:30):
to play with Lebron, no matter this is Chris Kyrie.
Oh wait a minute, san Antonio's dumb. He goes to
the Lakers anyway, so they might as won't trade him.
Why don't they trade him there? Then it's like, okay,
uh uh, Jimmy Butler's name comes up, or whoever, whoever,
Anthony Davis, whoever comes available or says anything, is automatically
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linked to Lebron because everybody knows he can't win by himself,
so they went by himself. I mean, anybody went by
what I'm saying that he can't win with the team
that he has, so everybody's always trying to find his suitor.
I got news for you. Kyrie couldn't win with Lebron either.
The last two times they lost eight out of nine.
(06:12):
Last one time, no, they lost eight out of nine
games to the war and the last four Kyrie was
gone when right, they lost four out of five, and
that they may have. Look could they beat first of
all if he went to like we didn't weigh ahead.
They lost twice with Kyrie, and my other thing is no,
but the first time Kyrie was hurt, right, but they
(06:33):
they have won that series? They lost two one week
without Kevin Love and Kyrie. Kyrie averaged twenty eight points
on lebron average triple double and they lost four games
to one. I'm talking about right, So they But you,
kyar you, this supporting cast in LA might be better
than what they I'm not buying. Have you watched them
against the Knicks and the Cavaliers. I'm not buying it.
(06:55):
I just don't believe that Kyrie's gonna play with him.
What what what? Kyrie went and you noticed Chris. What
bothered him the most is after they want a title
he wanted to bring Chris Paul, I don't know that
this is what I heard. I heard that. First of all,
Lebron and Kyrie never had a big argument or blow
(07:19):
up themselves. Kyrie used to help Lebron in drills work
on his handle. Lebron Kyrie would be at Lebron's house
on occasion at least once talking about business, you know,
learning from Lebron about your businesses off the court. And
now Kyrie is trying to put together a media company. Okay,
so their relationship was Okay, I'm not gonna paint it
(07:41):
like it was great because Kyrie in Cleveland was to himself.
He's like coming in playing ball and then pretty much
with his own people. Okay, So I'm not trying to
paint that they were best friends. But they never had
to blow out, blow up. One of the things there
as many, but one of the things that happened was
Kyrie got when that they were there was a three
(08:02):
way trade when involving Paul George, where Kyrie would have
got shipped to Phoenix. Paul George would have went to
the Calves and some Phoenix would have sent a draft
lottery pick and somebody else to Indiana, and he looked
at it like, hold on, there's no way this is
being discussed and Lebron doesn't know about it. So Kyrie
(08:25):
jumped to the conclusion, now Lebron denies that he had anything,
he knew anything about it. You think they're making deals
without Lebron. I think it was a deal. I think
it was talk. But now I think there's talk without Lebron,
and I think if maybe, if if it gets not maybe,
if it gets to a point where we're gonna do it,
then you go to les to I don't think. I
definitely don't think Lebron was sitting there with David Griffin
(08:48):
when you're talking about trade possibility. Let me finish the story.
Kyrie jumped to an inclusion that Lebron had to be
involved in it. Didn't go to Lebron and say, yo,
what's up. He just went to Griffin and said, getting
me out of here. That was you're telling me he's
spending time at his house. They're they're going over stuff,
but he doesn't feel compelled to ask lebrono on what's
(09:10):
going on? Well that wasn't the same days that. No, no no, no,
But I'm just saying, yeah, that's what, But that doesn't
make that doesn't make sense to me, that you don't
have a relationship. Just to even ask, if they told
me that they were gonna bring in Doug god Leave
to be on the odd couple, I would say, Chris, uh,
that's you and me. I agree he should have went
to Lebron. That doesn't make sense relationships. I'm not saying
(09:33):
it was like I said, I didn't have a good
enough relationship. I understand, but it was never like you
know what I mean, when you when you go in
and you demand to get out, and you tell them people,
if you don't do it, I'm gonna have surgery. So
I won't play. That's a guy who desperately wanted to
get away from Lebron. I do not n ot see
any circumstance where he's coming back. Why would he have
(09:55):
to say I apologized, Hena, He didn't. He said he
didn't have a even he said about being a young
player who didn't accept maybe his guidance early. That's what
he said. He didn't say, you apologized for leaving. That
never even came up. I am with you in that.
I don't I'm not saying Kyrie is coming to La.
(10:15):
What I am saying is it's a possibility. Now. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Brussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart
Radio app. All right, we're talking about former NBA coach
and general manager and now a Turner Sports NBA analyst
(10:37):
is none other than Stu Jackson Stu Wills to the
Eye Couple. Hey guys, thanks so much for having me man,
long time listener, first time and let me you know,
when Stu uh coach to Knicks. I was one of
the be writers back then in those days. Stu. Remember Stu?
How was he? How did you? Did he on your nerves?
(11:00):
I'm sure he did. No, No, he didn't get on
my nerves. He was very professional, very knowledgeable, and he
killed me. Chris, Oh, that's what he did. That's what
I'm saying, like, Hey, hey, Stud, you tho his motto
if I'm writing, I'm ripping. That's well, Stud, Let's let's
get right to it. I saw your tweet last night,
(11:24):
breaking news. I'm reading it now, breaking news. Three bound
the Brooklyn Nets and Houston Rockets have just collectively attempted
one hundred three point shots in the game. This three
point shooting epidemic needs a cure. Hashtag competition Committee, hashtag NBA,
hashtag based basketball caretakers. I'm with you, but tell me
(11:48):
what you meant, Like, what sparked you to send out
that tweet? Well, actually, you know, Chris, I, it's something
I've you know, talked about on air, talked about it
on my podcast, and last night set me over the edge.
You know, when you had two teams combined with over
one hundred three point shooting attempts and in half of
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all the shots taken in the game. Understanding it wasn't
overtime games. It's getting to be too much. And I
feel from a basketball standpoint, purely of the three point
shot as it relates to the games at a tipping point.
And I say that, no, and I say that, you know,
because I don't want to sound like I'm talking out
(12:31):
on both sides by mouth. Listen, scoring is up four
points a game over last year, and it's the highest
jump in the one one year jump in twenty years. Okay,
the NBA is in its golden years. Fan support enthusiasm
and is all time high. It's an exciting shot. I
get all that, but we've really lost a major parts
(12:53):
of the game of basketball. I agree with you as
the game is hard for me to watch and current
state there's not a lot of defense going on. And
then stude there are somethings when you talking about fans
support and whatnot. Where we've seen the ratings and sometimes
it's been blamed on Lebron moving to the West, but
the TNT ratings are down twenty six. ESPN's ratings are down.
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Are people I know people still come to the games,
but are they enjoying these high scoring, lack of defense games. Well,
you know, I think the proof will be as we
go forward here, Rob, I mean, we'll see. But I
think it's incumbent upon the NBA to be proactive from
a rural standpoint to maybe to try to alter the
(13:40):
way the game is played. And what you're alluding to
is that are we not watching a game? It's very homogeneous, right,
Everyone plays the same way except for maybe you know, Memphis,
except for maybe San Antonio at times. But every team,
every offensive scheme seems to be the same. It's handoff,
(14:03):
it's cut it's pick and roll after pick and roll,
or in the case of Houston, a lot of unassisted
threes where we just dribble in the three point shots.
And I just wonder, from a spacing standpoint, from the aesthetics,
from the number of variety of players that usually occur
in the game, if we're just not seeing something that's
(14:24):
the same all the way around with every team. And
that's my issue. I mean, look, the three point shot
is a great shot, it's exciting, but do we have
to have it the entire game? And my suggestion has been,
why not do one of two things. Cut the three
point line off at the corners, just have an arc
(14:44):
at twenty three nine across the court and you have
no corner three. Or and or just make the three
point shot a scoring three at certain parts of the game,
Chris rob Maybe at the last two minutes of each quarter,
maybe at the last two of each half, in the overtime.
But something to bring some variety back into the game
(15:05):
of basketball. I love your first point is something I've
been saying as well. Basically, eliminate that corner three, and
I think what that would do. Stu for the listeners
out there who might not be thinking about it. That
would necessitate the return of post play and the mid
range shot because you wouldn't be able to plant four
guys on the three point line because it would only
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be so long, right, So you would have a variety
of offenses and ways to score now correct, And I
still think even with the arc, the spacing would still
be the same. In other words, you'd still get a
space floor that's available for cutting and driving and penetrating
and dishing. But at least it would add that not
(15:50):
only the low post game, but give some credibility to
a mid range game as well. And you know, not
being able to shoot that corner three. Right, it's the
eye couple. We're joined by former NBA coach and general
manager and also a long time it worked for the
NBA in the front office of the league, Stut Jackson.
Check out his podcast on iTunes. It's called Everything Basketball,
(16:16):
Everything Basketball, Stu. Are there other people, you know, as
you said, caretakers of the game. I don't want you
to name names necessarily, but are there other people as
concerned about this as you are? Because, like you saying ratings,
I guess maybe ratings are a little down, but the
game that's popular as ever. I mean, it's just growing
(16:37):
by leaps and bounds. Are they just happy with that
or are there really people that feel like, look, we
have to keep an eye on this and maybe make
some changes. You know, listen, I don't think listen. You know,
anytime I know that's from experience, makes a strategic move
with respect of the game, there has to be a
(16:58):
business reason connected with it, and right now, there's no
business reason to get rid of the three point shots
for all the reasons we just talked about. It's exciting,
the ratings are up, you know, the stands are being filled.
But I just am trying to, you know, alert people
that we got to get out ahead of this because
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I love the NBA basketball. We're in a great time
in the game. But at some point do fans, educated
fans get to point where they go you know, it's
the same thing. You know, they're jacking up threes, they're
running around, they don't the perception is no defenses being played.
They take a fast break and instead of going to
(17:39):
the rim, they step back to the corner. I don't
know if that's the best thing for the game. The game.
As a fan, I would say that. So right now,
it's not an issue. I'm just saying, as someone who
loves the game, do you get out ahead of this
and maybe do something a little bit more strategic and
interesting in terms of adjusting the rules. And we know
how it goals. In sports, all these leagues are copied
(18:00):
at leagues. Okay, so the Warriors have success, they see it.
Everybody decides, But everybody doesn't have a Steph Curry or
Clay Thompson, right, everybody didn't have those players, but yet
they still play like that. Whereas before you would have
the Knicks had a different style, and the Pistons had
a different style, and the Phoenix Sungs played differently. You
know what I mean, you played with what you had
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and that's what your right, Stu. We don't see that anymore,
and it stinks, it does. And the guys, I mean,
let's let's you know, you bring up a good point.
Let's switch sports. I mean, tell me you don't watch
the NFL right now and think, man, everybody just throw
the ball up and they throw the ball every down, right.
(18:43):
I mean for me, now, I'm I don't know football.
I'm a casual football fan, and I sit there and
I go man, this is kind of born. Man. Everybody
does the same thing, and I don't want to see
that happen to NBA or collegiate basketball. Yeah, and you
mentioned baseball like they it's all home runs and strikeouts.
(19:03):
The analytics, right, the analytics have really uh altered sports
now because things that they used to do steal in
basis in baseball and bunting people over, they won't do it.
It's totally it's a whole run or nothing. Yeah. But here,
you know, analytics are great. I think they're great at
proving a point or disproving a point. But you know,
(19:23):
Steve Kerr said it, the best guys with respect to
the three point shot is that, yes, I'm an offensive
efficiency standpoint. The three point shot is a more efficient shot.
But he said, look, the more twos that you score,
in other words, when you shoot a higher percentage, that
just means you don't have to defend the fast break
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as much. With threees, you're shooting a much less, much
lower percentage and now defensively you're defending the fast break more.
But if you shoot a higher percentage shot, you're defending
the fast break less. And he said his preference is
to defend less less beast. Great, and that's why the Warriors,
as much as they shoot the three, they're one of
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the best mid range games. Excuse me, mid range teams
in the league. I was gonna say, I'm glad you
brought up the Warriors because people think they just hoist
threes like Houston. No, they get backdoor layups, they shoot
mid range shots. They don't shoot the three nearly as
much as people seem to think they do. No, it's perception,
there is not the reality, right right, Well, Stu, Great,
(20:29):
we really appreciate it, and I'm with you. I think
the league has to really keep an eye on this
and get out in front of it. So great job.
I appreciate it. And still, you know, you were very
lucky that you didn't have Chris Bussard as a beat
writer when you were coaching, so I wouldn't have ripped
you as much as Rob much. All right, Stu, And
(20:50):
remember Chris, Chris. I never got a public public apology
from Rob. It's apologies are in the air. Ye go ahead,
all right, ste I'm sorry, all right that I ripped
you when I was writing, because usually when I'm writing,
I'm ripping, all right, Thanks Stu. Remember to check out
(21:10):
his podcast Everything Basketball. You can download it on iTunes.
Thanks Stue. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific. DeMarcus Cousins, who will
make his season debut in Golden State tomorrow night, he
(21:31):
says that, no, Patriots aren't the most hated team. It's us,
the Golden State Warriors. Here's the sound. Were the most
hated team in sports. So you think you're the most
hated team in sports. I would say that there are
a lot of people in this country who love to
hate the Yankees or the Cowboys. Put us up there.
I would say the Warriors. I for sure. You know
(21:54):
they hate Kevin, they hate me. I think only how
they really like the Steff. They may hate him as well.
They hate Draymond, but uh, I mean it is what
it is, so I can't I can't worry about that.
That was courtesy of ESPN. DeMarcus Cousins, who again making
his season debut tomorrow in the starting lineup for the
(22:16):
Golden State Warriors as they play the Clippers tomorrow night.
He told that to Rachel Nichols. Look, if you had
to make no way that the Golden State Warriors are
the most hated team in sport. No, people don't like
what what went on and what how do you know
what they what they did when they put that team together.
But Chris, if you had to put together a list,
(22:36):
I got four names or teams that are above them
or no, just for I have them, include to have
them as number four. I have three other teams ahead
of them that I think people hate more. Okay, So
and if you wanted to you, all right, so let
me give you my list, or you want to write
them down, and you know, let me give they're the same,
So go ahead write here. You know what three I'm
(22:56):
talking about? Right, So write them down, and I might
put notre Day is number five? No like nationally? Maybe
all right? So you also want to put now like
current It could be mamma, all right. So we got
the four Warriors. We're both saying, write a number four, right, Okay,
give me your other three? Dallas? What is the quarter?
(23:19):
But New England Dallas and the New York Games New
England Patriots, Dallas Cowboys, New York Games. Absolutely absolutely those
teams are ahead, and I'll say currently, I think the
Patriots are the most hated team in the country. I
think historically you would say the Dallas Cowboys are the
most beloved and the most hated at the same time
(23:41):
in the NFL. But right now, oh, it's definitely the
New England Patriots. I think the New England Patriots are
not only the most hated team in the NFL, most
hated team in sport. And I think the Yankees fell off.
They still hated. Don't get me wrong, because you know that,
but they got like Judge and some players that are
cooling aren't, do you know what I mean? Like, Also,
(24:02):
they haven't won since two thousand nine, right, and it's
been a while. They haven't in the last nineteen years.
They've won and been to one World Series nineteen nineteen years.
Their last one was two thousand and one two when
they won, when they won the three out of five,
three out of four, right, was it three years? Yeah?
Three out of they went back and lost and lost,
right they lost in two thousand and two. Okay, but
(24:24):
then but since oh yeah, yeah, they haven't won any
other World Series. Yeah, So so you have that's what
you have. To understand, like you got in the Cowboys
having one since we know ninety five, right, so you
have a whole another generation that's like, why do I
don't think that much about the Cowboys because they're never
in the playoffs and they don't win, right, Yeah, I
(24:44):
mean differs out of Cowboys. It's teams that win a
lot when you just go like and that was the
same thing I tell people all time, like there's a
revisionist history when people think about the Bulls. Everybody wasn't
on Michael Jordan's bandwagon when that was going on. They see,
I do think I was covering during that time. Yeah,
(25:05):
I heard covering Toil nineties five. Okay, I covered during
the time early on, and there was a lot of
people that hated Michael Jordan, the Bulls and also just
then you were you in Detroit, No, obviously in Detroit,
but I was in New York and in New York too, right,
But there was another wif because they were in the way, right.
But I just remember that it wasn't all the love.
(25:28):
People used to say, Hey, Michael Jordan, he's only a dunker.
He doesn't make anybody balance before he right, That's what
I'm saying once he started winning, yeah, I didn't feel that,
and I would here's this is my opinion. Now I
want to hear yours to your response to it. In
New York, of course, because the Knicks were good with
Patrick Wright and the Bulls kept beating them. And in
(25:49):
Detroit where they kept beating the Bulls, but then of
course Jordan they finally broke to bling them. He was
very much hated, hated, But I would say in most
of the country, the Bulls and Jordan were beloved. I
don't I don't know. There were people I think they
wanted to see and this is what I used to
always say Madison Square Garden covering those games, Nick fans
(26:14):
wanted to see Michael Jordan's show out. They did, but
they wanted the Knicks to win the game. They wanted
Michael to have a big night dunks, but they wanted
the Knicks to win. There was never like they're cheering
for the Bulls to win the game. Well, and I
think it was probably like that in most, if not
all NBA reads, Like you know, diehard fans are gonna
(26:35):
pull for their team, and when they went to see
him playing Phoenix, I'm sure they wanted him to go
ahead and get forty and doing, but the Suns win. Yeah,
but I'm kind of talking about you know, I don't
I don't know. I don't know if it's we didn't
and we didn't name them in there. So I agreed
that they didn't fit into where when we're talking about
right history historically, because but I will say the Warriors
are up there, um even more so than the Bulls
(26:58):
during that time. But definitely it's the Patriots, and it's
the Patriots not just you know people in Boston awe
and yell. It's because we win all the time. And
it's not just that because I think there's a part
of it that people can't also get past of the
cheating scandals. That's part of it. It's not like you're
(27:19):
not good enough just to win, because I always say
Tom Brady should be like Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter won
five championships, crystal played twenty years with the Yankees, and
a crystal clear record. Tom Brady doesn't have that, and
I think that that's the part that people look at it.
That's why you can't fully embrace them. There's something that
(27:40):
doesn't feel right about the Patriots. I look, I don't
the cheating doesn't really come into my thinking when I
to think about the Patriots, but and I do think
it does for a lot of people. So I agree,
it's not just the winning obviously bothers people right after.
It's also the cheat. It is, it's a combination. Yeah,
there's no question about it. They're kind of like they're
(28:04):
I mean, we've said it. They're the Spurs of the
NFL and the Spurs. I don't know if they're hated.
They've got a little more colored than the Spurs. The
Spurs were so now because they were so vanilla and
vanilla right, and there big stars wearing sandals, and they
were were a dull team and they never won two
in a row, which also like when you talk about
(28:25):
dynastyam you can't be it. You gotta win at least
two back to back or three in a row for
somebody to be it, or two out of three or
three out of four or something like that. Why do
you think, and we want to open it up to
you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine, who do
you think is the most hated team? In sports, or
(28:46):
is it the Warriors? Give us a call? But why
do you think the Warriors are definitely the most hated
team right now in basketball? Part of me, I gotta
be honest, Rob, part of me feels like hated is
actually a little strong. I would say most disliked. I
don't feel like they're hated. I think everybody in the league.
There are teams that players that don't like Steph you know, uh,
(29:09):
they're they're the teams obviously are envious of their success.
I feel like hated is a little strong. Um maybe,
but it's a there's a big dislike, like there are
people who don't want to see the Warriors win, you know,
like like the end of the like when they got
I remember so many fans on social media were going
(29:32):
crazy when they picked up Boogie Cousins. Oh they're all
I'm done with the NBA. I don't want to watch
this anymore, you know what I mean. I don't think
they've become more hated since Boogie because the key thing
was obviously Duran. Yeah no, they don't, no doubt about it.
But they haven't seen Boogie with them yet. You don't
even know the good point. People will be like, this
(29:55):
is ridiculous. I can't stand this team. I can't believe
they picked up Bookie because we haven't seen them with them.
That's a great point. Then you're right if he comes
gets in perfectly and they just are it cause look,
if he fits in perfectly, there's no stop, there's no
stop and run through everybody. You're right, that's a great
point that I think they would be more hated than.
(30:17):
Like I said, I think they're disliked. I don't feel
like because I think a look, a lot of people
there are those that don't like Steph, but a lot
of that as people in the league, And I don't
know if they I wouldn't say they don't like it,
but you know, they a lot of players feel like, look,
he doesn't play d he doesn't. It's not only that
he's not a good defender, because Damian Lillard, a lot
(30:41):
of these big time point guards aren't good defenders, hardened,
but Steph, they a lot of them feel like he
doesn't even take up the challenge of guarding the opposing
point guard if he's a really good point right,
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