January 21, 2019 • 24 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris waives bye-bye to Rob after the Patriots forced him to move to Mexico... only to have Rob come back in town and double-down on his critique of Tom Brady. The guys also explain how they have no sympathy for Sean Payton and the Saints even after the refs missed a blatant pass interference at the end of the game, and Rob lets us know why Andy Reid will be known as the WCOAT from this point forward.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. And as much
as I enjoyed this weekend, you know, us analysts, we
all like being right, so you just get excited about that.
It was a bit bittersweet. Bittersweet because I one two
(00:49):
football games in terms of picks, but I think I
lost my partner. I show up today here at Fox
Sports Radio and I go to my mailbox and I fire.
I see this piece of loose leaf paper, and I,
(01:10):
you know, pull it out of my box and I
see some handwritten stuff on it, and it's actually a
little tear stained. I believe it was really in bashhape.
Looked like the handwriting suggested the person was really struggling
to write it. But I was able to decipher it,
and I put it into my phone because I had
to read it to all you guys today. Um, but
(01:36):
here's what the genesis of this. What is what if
they doing I think I'm moving to Mexico. Do they
have a job down there, one like soccer? You could
be a sports radio me ands will move our radio
show to Mexico. You know I heard that when Rob
(01:57):
said it, and I of course thought he was joking.
He's playing around, all right, But let me tell you
what the letter said. Dear Chris, the Odd Couple crew,
and our loyal listeners. I have once again put my
foot in my mouth and it doesn't taste good at all.
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It's dry, it's ashy, and it reeks of being gay.
I am fifty five, after all, But it's not my fault.
But it's my fault. You would have thought I would
have known better than the bet against TB twelve, after
being wrong about him so many times over the past
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eight years, could do that. Bray could do that. But
I was foolish once again, and in fact, this time
I went too far. I pledged to move to Mexico
if Brady won again. So when humility and heartbrokenness, I
bid you a dude. The Odd Couple is now a
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solo show I will return at some point in the
distant future, assuming Trump doesn't build that wall. Until then,
I'll admit it. Tom Brady is the goat. As much
as I want to shout and claim victory. And I
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told what what are you doing here? What are you
talking about? Why I got this letter in my in
my in my in my mailboy who wrote that letter?
Because I did not It had your signature talking about
it had tears on it. You are absolutely crazy if
you think I had anything to do with that letter.
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And if you think that one football game is gonna
change me or change what's going on here, or you're
kidding me. Chris Bussard. You know me better than that
after all these years. Well, I am glad to see you.
I am glad to see you. That's about it. But
let me tell you I was going so low. You
ain't going solo, Rock Parker, ain't going nowhere way. No,
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you're actually coming in here see ragadocious. Yes, that mean
you're welcome, but are you coming in like with your
chest out? That is total BS. I have not changed
my mind about Tom Brady. Yes he won, Yes he
played well in overtime, and yes the passer going back
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to the Super Bowl. But no, he is not an
ot the goat in my mind, nothing has changed with
that victory over the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.
This isn't irrational. This is irrational. I mean, this isn't math.
There is no right answer when we talk about who's
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the goat. Sorry, it's not. It's based on what I see,
what I believe in, what I feel. That's the beauty
of sports. We can watch the same game and see
something totally different. One man's chicken is another man's gumbo.
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You hear me, Christmassard. If my opinion is invalidated because
you don't agree with how I see this, that means
your opinion doesn't matter either. This is what sports has
always been built on. In the fifties in New York City,
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the debate was Willie Mickey or the Duke who was
the greatest center fielder in New York And depending on
who you were talking to, people would pick Willie Mays
with the Giants, Mickey Mantle with the Yankees, and Duke
Schneider with the Dodgers. And Mickey Mantle won all the time.
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He won eight World Series. And you know what, people
still pick Mickey Matt Willie mays it's the greatest center
field even though he only won once. So don't sit
here and tell me the same people now who are
coming here looking for validation, looking for me to stamp
their ticket, and tell them that Tom Brady is the
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greatest of all time. You must be crazy. You're the
same people who tell me all the time that Lebron
James is better than Michael Jordan, even though Michael Jordan
never lost. You tell me that winning championship doesn't mean
you're the greatest, But when it comes to Tom Brady,
going to the super Bowl means you just got validated.
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And we all noticed Chris that had Tom Brady and
the Patriots lost yesterday, there's no way in NFL America
would that have changed the minds of Brady hands and
told people that Brady was not to go because he
lost yesterday. So don't come in here telling me that
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yesterday beating the hapless Kansas City Chiefs and I'm talking
about their defense. You watched the game that all of
a sudden that validated you, that changed your mind about
Tom Brady. You are now convinced more than ever that
Tom Brady is the greatest of all time? Stop it.
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So you didn't write that letter. You wrote that? You
know I didn't write that letter. No way, no, how
did I write that letter. I've been calling for it
for years. But finally this is a year where I'm
gonna be right wrong. We saved that. Saved that for
next year because Rob will say the same thing next year,
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and you can use what are you saying? I'm he myself.
You have this twenty and eleven. Here's what I got
out of your spiel. It's impressive by the way. You
have moved a little bit, because you normally say definitively
that Tom Brady is not the goal. I said it has.
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Now you're saying, hey, you're basically if you think he's
the goal, fine, but it's subjective. I don't think he's
the goal. You see what I'm saying. You normally come
out and say it's Joe Montana eleven touchdowns for Super Bowls,
no losses. You've moved a little. I didn't. You have
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noved a little, which sparks me to ask you, what
if Tom Brady wins in two weeks six Super Bowl?
What if Tom Brady loses and goes to five and
four Magic Johnson's five and four. Nobody says he's the great.
It's all I'm saying. Five and four does not sound
as good as four. No, I don't care what you said.
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You can talk about nine trips that would basically make
him a five hundred quarterback in the Super Bowl. No, no, no,
it wouldn't make him, according to by many math subjective.
I told you that is not subjective. And and the
and the other thing is this, I you didn't you.
I didn't really expect you to say, Okay, Brady's the goat.
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What I'm wondering though, have you changed your mind on
him being too old? You have said you start saying
in week two or three he is done. I mean,
I don't. I don't remember you didn't think they could
win it. I don't remember if you said you didn't
give him a shot to get to the super Bowl.
You said they could get to the FC Championship. Man,
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I didn't said that they could win. And here's the
other if have you changed on him being too old?
He was a stud yesterday. I know he has some
bad plays too, Okay, he was also he was also
an off side of way and you could but the
question it is with it. How many times we can't
go back through everybody's career. Don't pick out things like that.
You gotta admit that would have been a third pick.
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And and just let me just just just be honest.
If he has that third pick, they lose. There there's
no way to you come in to day telling me
he's the go Yeah, you still believe, I mean, And
that's my point is that nothing was determined yesterday because
he would would have had a bad game and you
still would come in and say he's the goat regardless.
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But that's why why nothing was validated yesterday. I think
what was validated he still has it. No, that's what
was valid I saw the bad Brady that we've seen
this year when he's thrown bad passes, and he threw
a bad pick to start to get the last three
possessions eleven for twenty one hundred and forty seven yards.
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It was no he marched them down the field. When
we were talking about how many touchdowns did he thus
running back running it in from a five yard line
this house, he marched them down the mask one okay,
and he marched him down the field, and all each
of those he sacked nine. Right there, you go that,
That's what I'm talking about. But hold on, do you
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gonna blameing for that? No, I'm saying, where was this
Jerry Rice? I'm saying any quarter Where was this Dwight Clark?
His Jerry Rice was right there? Rob Gronkowski had a
thousand terrible this year. Gys stopping Bronkowski has been terrible
this year. Does he have over a thousand catches? Now
that's past history. He showed up yesterday. I give it
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to him. Brady made him show up. My only point
is you can't have it both ways. You can't act
like he never had anybody or you don't have that.
This is the lebron uh narrative that drives me crazy.
Don't tell me he doesn't have anybody. And as a quarterback,
I don't care. If you're in the NFL and you
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get no pressure and get time to throw, you could
pick anybody apart. The whole game is whether or not
you could get to the quarterback and disrupt him. So
Tom Brady, as good as he is, he of course
he's gonna pick you apart if you don't pressure him.
That's all I'm saying. He did what anybody would do.
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Three straight pressure. The pressure was to win. No, the
pressure was to win. But like I said, my mate,
I didn't expect you to say his goat, but I did.
I was just wondering if you say he's done, he's
too old, he can't. The Odd Couple looking for validation today.
You got the wrong station, so you need to change it. No,
(12:35):
you don't need to change it. Keep listening. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris
Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app.
The NFC game was outstanding as well. Two great games,
some bad coaching. The LA Rams won twenty six twenty
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three coaching. And what a lot of people ribe are
talking about is the blown call. And I don't mean
just fans. New Orleans coach Sean Payton is going crazy
about a missed pass interference call late in the game.
That call puts it first and ten we're on ane
three plays and it's a game changing call. For a
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call like that not to be made, man, it's just
hard to swallow. It was simple. They blew the call
should never have not been a call. They said, not
only was it interference, it was helmet to helmet. We
spoke initially, then I called to follow up, and first
thing Al said. When I got on the phone, we
messed it up. Here's the thing we all. I mean,
I don't know if there's anybody alive that is saying
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that it wasn't pass interference. I mean, it was clearly
pass interference, Okay, no question about it. And the other
thing too, Chris. When you watch the replay, if you
haven't seen it, just watch it a few times, very seldom.
A lot of times you get two referees and they're
like one calls one thing and the other one and
then they kind of got to sort it out. Watch it,
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both of them at the same exact time. Almost both
go like this, like no play and both of them, Yeah,
I don't know what in my world they were thinking.
Both it is. I mean, if they were trying to
say it wasn't catchable, it would have been catchable if
he wouldn't have got hammered by and it was helmet
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to helmet. But here's the thing. I don't want to
hear it. I don't want to hear it from Sean Payton.
I don't want to hear it from Saints fans fans.
And here's why, because on the series before, when the
Rams tied the game up twenty twenty with six minutes
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forty nine seconds left, second in goal at New Orleans fives,
the Rams had the ball, Jerry Golf scrambles and gets
face masks clear ye phrase mass and they didn't call
it and the Rams had to settle for a field goal.
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It would have been first and goal from the one
or two yard line. That you can't tell me they
would not have had as good of a chance of
scoring a touchdown there instead of a field goal as
New Orleans would have had at the end. And here's
the thing about New Orleans, though New Orleans New Orleans,
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it would have changed everything. Like if if the Rams
score touchdown there instead of it being twenty twenty, they
would have been up twenty four twenty. Then we don't
who knows what New Orleans would have done at that point.
It would have changed their whole game plan because now
you have to score a touchdown instead of just getting
a field goal to win it. So my point is
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that unfortunately, bad calls are made all the time, and
I would actually look at this situation and say, you
know what, those two bad calls even it out. The
second one was egregious, the first one was very bad,
but it both of them evened out. Golf should have
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got the face mask call and the Saint should have
gotten the PI call, So I think it evened it out.
So I don't want to hear the complaints. What about
Sean Payton and his coaching after the two minute warning
when they throw on first down. A lot of people
say that Payton's decision is as bad as the Seahawks
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passing at the gold line at the Super Bowl, Like,
because I wouldn't call it that bad. No, from the
standpoint of time, if you have a chance to run
there and you run down the clock, you don't leave
them enough time to even the field goals. You see
what I'm saying. You run it down instead of passing.
I get it, you're trying to score a touchdown, but
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you're better off running. When you pass, you stop the clock.
Here's the thing I'll say, I agree with that logic,
but like he left that Sean Payton, No, I know,
but you gotta be sometimes. The only problem I hear that,
and Sean Payton has made so many calls throughout his
career that if they don't work, we're killing him for it.
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On side kick having a Super Bowl, we would be
killing him. No, I this is one where if it
works well, he's aggressive. But the only thing, no, is
when you're talking about end of game and leaving as
little time, we saw him and both of these games,
Patriots left a little time on the clock. And what
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happened The Chiefs who were struggling right watch right down
to kick a field goal. All had a chance to
win that game thirty they had thirty nine seconds and
they were at the right and they went all the
way back. Yesterday when the Chiefs, yeah, they down three
and Mahomes marches him down, watches him right down there
within almost seconds and thirty nine seconds, right, It was unbelievable.
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And that's what I'm saying is that you want to
leave them as little chimp hossible, And they're just saying that, yes,
you try to score the touchdown, right, but if you
run it, you that's like forty seconds off the clock.
It's a lot of time when you run and they
can't stop the clock. Now, and there's that's legit. And
I think what people are trying to say is that, look, yes,
the referees made a mistake, Sean Payton, but so did you, right,
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That's what they're saying, right right, even put you you
didn't have to put yourself in that position. Had you
had you done was run the ball down there. And
this is right after the two minute warning. So the
clock is that's it, right, yep, the clock is gonna run,
and you run the ball and then when you can't,
if you can't get in, you kick the field goal.
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So you're saying, you're saying, as I am, you don't
want to hear the complaint. No, I mean I get
why fans are gonna complain about it, because that's what
fans do. They're invest invested, Chris. There are a lot
of people hurting. I heard from a lot of friends
from New Orleans. I'm from down there. You know that
don't Day sick? Yeah? Oh yeah, she's she had her
Saints jersey on and everything. A guy Martin Weiss from
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I haven't heard from Mark was you know, he's sick.
He's in his little cage, you know, her in the dark.
Because I didn't hear from him, and then all of
a sudden he hit me up and he was like,
I'll pay you your wing, but I don't want to
talk about it. I'll pay you a wing. Look, it
was a horrible call, but I think both you and
I are right. You could point to Sean Payton's bad
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play call, and you can certainly point to the nine
face mask call on Jared Goff. So I think the
two calls even themselves out. It's as simple as they
both were bad and both got missed. Eight seven seven
ninety nine five eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine. What do you think? Do you? Uh? You?
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You think Sean Payton it's fine. Let him keep complaining,
and he's right that it wasn't terrible. Took the game
from him? Is that what you think? A in terrible call?
But the referees did not take the game. They they
the rams could be saying the same thing if they
had lost. But here's the thing. People always remember it
because it was at the end. Yes, even though a
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play earlier was a big play. I'll tell you another
one if I remember, Chris. If you think about it,
Patrick Mahomes made a bad mistake in the first half
by taking a sack rather than get rid of the
scrambled the wrong way right, and then what happened took
them out of field goal range. Had they had that
field goal, and instead what happened was, instead of it
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being seven three, they got no points. Patriots went down
and scored and made it fourteen nothing. That's a huge
turnaround in the game because everything changed, right, and that's
what happened at the end. People think about you don't
think about it, but that was a turning point in
the game, no doubt, no doubt. And and again, if
the Rams had scored a touchdown where they're up twenty
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four twenty versus the field goal, that changes the Saints
entire approach on that possession. So I just think at
the end of the day, it evened itself out. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific. Dude, you know what, you can say
whatever you want, And I'm not just hating up. This
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is not this is an Andy Reid indictment. He can't
win the big game. I'm sorry. I know he's never
won a super Bowl. But Chris here we are now.
Andy Reid is arguably one of the best coaches in
the league. Right everybody said if a Laws one of
the best coaches in the league. His record is now
twelve and fourteen in the postseason. He's He's been to
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the championship game four times, three NFC championships and now
one AFC Championship one and three and now in Kansas City.
Since he's gone there, they're two and five and have
lost three of their last four home games in the NFL.
This was one. So weird is that both road teams won,
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which just doesn't happen. I think twenty twelve was the
last time that doesn't happen that often because it's really
hard to win. But Andy Reid is the what coat
the worst coach of all time? He's he really is Jackson.
I'm talking about of a coach who has something going
like Marv Levy, Marve Leave than Matt Patricia. Marv Levy
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is even better than than Andy Reid. And Marv Levy
lost all four Super Bowls marm but Grant lost four
Super Bowls. He's a Hall of Famer, Andy Reids Hall
of Fame. So what do you put the coaches in
who actually won a Super Bowl? Is there another thing
higher than there's a different floor. I mean, that's ridiculous.
How can you lose four straight Super Bowls and be
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in a Hall of Fame? Getting there not about getting there,
It's not is an achievement, Rob, And in fact, getting
there means you did win a championship, you won your conference.
So you know what, Chris, the last the next four Sundays,
I'm gonna go to your church and stand out in front,
up the front door. I'm not coming in, but I
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went to church because I'm gonna stand right out front.
Am I getting? Did I gain anything? Yeah? If you heard,
you can hear the message. I know I'm supposed to
go in, just like if I was going to the
Playboy mansion. Aren't you supposed to try to get in?
I don't know about the play Well, that's why I
bought the church up for you, because I figured my
Playboy mansion, think ain't gonna work. Because Chris ain't even
trying to go to MASSI you are, Rob, Rob jo,
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he ain't even going. Don't let him corrupt you. You
know what? Now Here, Rob g gonna be in revival. Baby,
it's not it's gonna it's gonna be now. Uh me
and the Boss we'll go to I'm gonna take Scott. Okay,
Scot your pier. We're going to Magic City in the lamb.
Here's the thing. Look, I get where you're coming from,
meeting just to eat. I get where you're coming from
with Andy Reid. And Andy Reid is not Bill Belichick.
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Bill Belichick, you we talked about it a few minutes ago.
The Chiefs had the best they were number one in
the league in sacks hie for first fifty two. They
don't get close to Brady. That's coaching. And then the
pack of the Patriots, who had an anemic pass rush
all year, we're all over pat Mahomes. And here's the
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other party. Right, people say, oh, well, that's defensive. Don't
blame Andy Reid. How you have the highest, one of
the highest schooling offenses. You get shut out in the
first half and your own building didn't make adjustment, but
they were ready to get it. But you have to
give him credit. Halfy shut out in your own big
thirty one in the second half. That's all I'm saying.
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He's you know, he's got to win the big One,
but he is one of the best coaches in the
league and gonna be a Hall of Famer.
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(00:21):
s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. And as much
as I enjoyed this weekend, you know, us analysts, we
all like being right, so you just get excited about that.
It was a bit bittersweet. Bittersweet because I one two
(00:49):
football games in terms of picks, but I think I
lost my partner. I show up today here at Fox
Sports Radio and I go to my mailbox and I fire.
I see this piece of loose leaf paper, and I,
(01:10):
you know, pull it out of my box and I
see some handwritten stuff on it, and it's actually a
little tear stained. I believe it was really in bashhape.
Looked like the handwriting suggested the person was really struggling
to write it. But I was able to decipher it,
and I put it into my phone because I had
to read it to all you guys today. Um, but
(01:36):
here's what the genesis of this. What is what if
they doing I think I'm moving to Mexico. Do they
have a job down there, one like soccer? You could
be a sports radio me ands will move our radio
show to Mexico. You know I heard that when Rob
(01:57):
said it, and I of course thought he was joking.
He's playing around, all right, But let me tell you
what the letter said. Dear Chris, the Odd Couple crew,
and our loyal listeners. I have once again put my
foot in my mouth and it doesn't taste good at all.
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It's dry, it's ashy, and it reeks of being gay.
I am fifty five, after all, But it's not my fault.
But it's my fault. You would have thought I would
have known better than the bet against TB twelve, after
being wrong about him so many times over the past
(02:41):
eight years, could do that. Bray could do that. But
I was foolish once again, and in fact, this time
I went too far. I pledged to move to Mexico
if Brady won again. So when humility and heartbrokenness, I
bid you a dude. The Odd Couple is now a
(03:04):
solo show I will return at some point in the
distant future, assuming Trump doesn't build that wall. Until then,
I'll admit it. Tom Brady is the goat. As much
as I want to shout and claim victory. And I
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told what what are you doing here? What are you
talking about? Why I got this letter in my in
my in my in my mailboy who wrote that letter?
Because I did not It had your signature talking about
it had tears on it. You are absolutely crazy if
you think I had anything to do with that letter.
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And if you think that one football game is gonna
change me or change what's going on here, or you're
kidding me. Chris Bussard. You know me better than that
after all these years. Well, I am glad to see you.
I am glad to see you. That's about it. But
let me tell you I was going so low. You
ain't going solo, Rock Parker, ain't going nowhere way. No,
(04:10):
you're actually coming in here see ragadocious. Yes, that mean
you're welcome, but are you coming in like with your
chest out? That is total BS. I have not changed
my mind about Tom Brady. Yes he won, Yes he
played well in overtime, and yes the passer going back
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to the Super Bowl. But no, he is not an
ot the goat in my mind, nothing has changed with
that victory over the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.
This isn't irrational. This is irrational. I mean, this isn't math.
There is no right answer when we talk about who's
(04:56):
the goat. Sorry, it's not. It's based on what I see,
what I believe in, what I feel. That's the beauty
of sports. We can watch the same game and see
something totally different. One man's chicken is another man's gumbo.
(05:16):
You hear me, Christmassard. If my opinion is invalidated because
you don't agree with how I see this, that means
your opinion doesn't matter either. This is what sports has
always been built on. In the fifties in New York City,
(05:39):
the debate was Willie Mickey or the Duke who was
the greatest center fielder in New York And depending on
who you were talking to, people would pick Willie Mays
with the Giants, Mickey Mantle with the Yankees, and Duke
Schneider with the Dodgers. And Mickey Mantle won all the time.
(06:00):
He won eight World Series. And you know what, people
still pick Mickey Matt Willie mays it's the greatest center
field even though he only won once. So don't sit
here and tell me the same people now who are
coming here looking for validation, looking for me to stamp
their ticket, and tell them that Tom Brady is the
(06:23):
greatest of all time. You must be crazy. You're the
same people who tell me all the time that Lebron
James is better than Michael Jordan, even though Michael Jordan
never lost. You tell me that winning championship doesn't mean
you're the greatest, But when it comes to Tom Brady,
going to the super Bowl means you just got validated.
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And we all noticed Chris that had Tom Brady and
the Patriots lost yesterday, there's no way in NFL America
would that have changed the minds of Brady hands and
told people that Brady was not to go because he
lost yesterday. So don't come in here telling me that
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yesterday beating the hapless Kansas City Chiefs and I'm talking
about their defense. You watched the game that all of
a sudden that validated you, that changed your mind about
Tom Brady. You are now convinced more than ever that
Tom Brady is the greatest of all time? Stop it.
(07:36):
So you didn't write that letter. You wrote that? You
know I didn't write that letter. No way, no, how
did I write that letter. I've been calling for it
for years. But finally this is a year where I'm
gonna be right wrong. We saved that. Saved that for
next year because Rob will say the same thing next year,
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and you can use what are you saying? I'm he myself.
You have this twenty and eleven. Here's what I got
out of your spiel. It's impressive by the way. You
have moved a little bit, because you normally say definitively
that Tom Brady is not the goal. I said it has.
(08:19):
Now you're saying, hey, you're basically if you think he's
the goal, fine, but it's subjective. I don't think he's
the goal. You see what I'm saying. You normally come
out and say it's Joe Montana eleven touchdowns for Super Bowls,
no losses. You've moved a little. I didn't. You have
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noved a little, which sparks me to ask you, what
if Tom Brady wins in two weeks six Super Bowl?
What if Tom Brady loses and goes to five and
four Magic Johnson's five and four. Nobody says he's the great.
It's all I'm saying. Five and four does not sound
as good as four. No, I don't care what you said.
(09:01):
You can talk about nine trips that would basically make
him a five hundred quarterback in the Super Bowl. No, no, no,
it wouldn't make him, according to by many math subjective.
I told you that is not subjective. And and the
and the other thing is this, I you didn't you.
I didn't really expect you to say, Okay, Brady's the goat.
(09:24):
What I'm wondering though, have you changed your mind on
him being too old? You have said you start saying
in week two or three he is done. I mean,
I don't. I don't remember you didn't think they could
win it. I don't remember if you said you didn't
give him a shot to get to the super Bowl.
You said they could get to the FC Championship. Man,
(09:45):
I didn't said that they could win. And here's the
other if have you changed on him being too old?
He was a stud yesterday. I know he has some
bad plays too, Okay, he was also he was also
an off side of way and you could but the
question it is with it. How many times we can't
go back through everybody's career. Don't pick out things like that.
You gotta admit that would have been a third pick.
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And and just let me just just just be honest.
If he has that third pick, they lose. There there's
no way to you come in to day telling me
he's the go Yeah, you still believe, I mean, And
that's my point is that nothing was determined yesterday because
he would would have had a bad game and you
still would come in and say he's the goat regardless.
(10:29):
But that's why why nothing was validated yesterday. I think
what was validated he still has it. No, that's what
was valid I saw the bad Brady that we've seen
this year when he's thrown bad passes, and he threw
a bad pick to start to get the last three
possessions eleven for twenty one hundred and forty seven yards.
(10:49):
It was no he marched them down the field. When
we were talking about how many touchdowns did he thus
running back running it in from a five yard line
this house, he marched them down the mask one okay,
and he marched him down the field, and all each
of those he sacked nine. Right there, you go that,
That's what I'm talking about. But hold on, do you
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gonna blameing for that? No, I'm saying, where was this
Jerry Rice? I'm saying any quarter Where was this Dwight Clark?
His Jerry Rice was right there? Rob Gronkowski had a
thousand terrible this year. Gys stopping Bronkowski has been terrible
this year. Does he have over a thousand catches? Now
that's past history. He showed up yesterday. I give it
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to him. Brady made him show up. My only point
is you can't have it both ways. You can't act
like he never had anybody or you don't have that.
This is the lebron uh narrative that drives me crazy.
Don't tell me he doesn't have anybody. And as a quarterback,
I don't care. If you're in the NFL and you
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get no pressure and get time to throw, you could
pick anybody apart. The whole game is whether or not
you could get to the quarterback and disrupt him. So
Tom Brady, as good as he is, he of course
he's gonna pick you apart if you don't pressure him.
That's all I'm saying. He did what anybody would do.
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Three straight pressure. The pressure was to win. No, the
pressure was to win. But like I said, my mate,
I didn't expect you to say his goat, but I did.
I was just wondering if you say he's done, he's
too old, he can't. The Odd Couple looking for validation today.
You got the wrong station, so you need to change it. No,
(12:35):
you don't need to change it. Keep listening. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris
Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app.
The NFC game was outstanding as well. Two great games,
some bad coaching. The LA Rams won twenty six twenty
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three coaching. And what a lot of people ribe are
talking about is the blown call. And I don't mean
just fans. New Orleans coach Sean Payton is going crazy
about a missed pass interference call late in the game.
That call puts it first and ten we're on ane
three plays and it's a game changing call. For a
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call like that not to be made, man, it's just
hard to swallow. It was simple. They blew the call
should never have not been a call. They said, not
only was it interference, it was helmet to helmet. We
spoke initially, then I called to follow up, and first
thing Al said. When I got on the phone, we
messed it up. Here's the thing we all. I mean,
I don't know if there's anybody alive that is saying
(13:40):
that it wasn't pass interference. I mean, it was clearly
pass interference, Okay, no question about it. And the other
thing too, Chris. When you watch the replay, if you
haven't seen it, just watch it a few times, very seldom.
A lot of times you get two referees and they're
like one calls one thing and the other one and
then they kind of got to sort it out. Watch it,
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both of them at the same exact time. Almost both
go like this, like no play and both of them, Yeah,
I don't know what in my world they were thinking.
Both it is. I mean, if they were trying to
say it wasn't catchable, it would have been catchable if
he wouldn't have got hammered by and it was helmet
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to helmet. But here's the thing. I don't want to
hear it. I don't want to hear it from Sean Payton.
I don't want to hear it from Saints fans fans.
And here's why, because on the series before, when the
Rams tied the game up twenty twenty with six minutes
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forty nine seconds left, second in goal at New Orleans fives,
the Rams had the ball, Jerry Golf scrambles and gets
face masks clear ye phrase mass and they didn't call
it and the Rams had to settle for a field goal.
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It would have been first and goal from the one
or two yard line. That you can't tell me they
would not have had as good of a chance of
scoring a touchdown there instead of a field goal as
New Orleans would have had at the end. And here's
the thing about New Orleans, though New Orleans New Orleans,
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it would have changed everything. Like if if the Rams
score touchdown there instead of it being twenty twenty, they
would have been up twenty four twenty. Then we don't
who knows what New Orleans would have done at that point.
It would have changed their whole game plan because now
you have to score a touchdown instead of just getting
a field goal to win it. So my point is
(15:50):
that unfortunately, bad calls are made all the time, and
I would actually look at this situation and say, you
know what, those two bad calls even it out. The
second one was egregious, the first one was very bad,
but it both of them evened out. Golf should have
(16:11):
got the face mask call and the Saint should have
gotten the PI call, So I think it evened it out.
So I don't want to hear the complaints. What about
Sean Payton and his coaching after the two minute warning
when they throw on first down. A lot of people
say that Payton's decision is as bad as the Seahawks
(16:32):
passing at the gold line at the Super Bowl, Like,
because I wouldn't call it that bad. No, from the
standpoint of time, if you have a chance to run
there and you run down the clock, you don't leave
them enough time to even the field goals. You see
what I'm saying. You run it down instead of passing.
I get it, you're trying to score a touchdown, but
(16:53):
you're better off running. When you pass, you stop the clock.
Here's the thing I'll say, I agree with that logic,
but like he left that Sean Payton, No, I know,
but you gotta be sometimes. The only problem I hear that,
and Sean Payton has made so many calls throughout his
career that if they don't work, we're killing him for it.
(17:14):
On side kick having a Super Bowl, we would be
killing him. No, I this is one where if it
works well, he's aggressive. But the only thing, no, is
when you're talking about end of game and leaving as
little time, we saw him and both of these games,
Patriots left a little time on the clock. And what
(17:35):
happened The Chiefs who were struggling right watch right down
to kick a field goal. All had a chance to
win that game thirty they had thirty nine seconds and
they were at the right and they went all the
way back. Yesterday when the Chiefs, yeah, they down three
and Mahomes marches him down, watches him right down there
within almost seconds and thirty nine seconds, right, It was unbelievable.
(17:56):
And that's what I'm saying is that you want to
leave them as little chimp hossible, And they're just saying that, yes,
you try to score the touchdown, right, but if you
run it, you that's like forty seconds off the clock.
It's a lot of time when you run and they
can't stop the clock. Now, and there's that's legit. And
I think what people are trying to say is that, look, yes,
the referees made a mistake, Sean Payton, but so did you, right,
(18:21):
That's what they're saying, right right, even put you you
didn't have to put yourself in that position. Had you
had you done was run the ball down there. And
this is right after the two minute warning. So the
clock is that's it, right, yep, the clock is gonna run,
and you run the ball and then when you can't,
if you can't get in, you kick the field goal.
(18:42):
So you're saying, you're saying, as I am, you don't
want to hear the complaint. No, I mean I get
why fans are gonna complain about it, because that's what
fans do. They're invest invested, Chris. There are a lot
of people hurting. I heard from a lot of friends
from New Orleans. I'm from down there. You know that
don't Day sick? Yeah? Oh yeah, she's she had her
Saints jersey on and everything. A guy Martin Weiss from
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I haven't heard from Mark was you know, he's sick.
He's in his little cage, you know, her in the dark.
Because I didn't hear from him, and then all of
a sudden he hit me up and he was like,
I'll pay you your wing, but I don't want to
talk about it. I'll pay you a wing. Look, it
was a horrible call, but I think both you and
I are right. You could point to Sean Payton's bad
(19:29):
play call, and you can certainly point to the nine
face mask call on Jared Goff. So I think the
two calls even themselves out. It's as simple as they
both were bad and both got missed. Eight seven seven
ninety nine five eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine. What do you think? Do you? Uh? You?
(19:51):
You think Sean Payton it's fine. Let him keep complaining,
and he's right that it wasn't terrible. Took the game
from him? Is that what you think? A in terrible call?
But the referees did not take the game. They they
the rams could be saying the same thing if they
had lost. But here's the thing. People always remember it
because it was at the end. Yes, even though a
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play earlier was a big play. I'll tell you another
one if I remember, Chris. If you think about it,
Patrick Mahomes made a bad mistake in the first half
by taking a sack rather than get rid of the
scrambled the wrong way right, and then what happened took
them out of field goal range. Had they had that
field goal, and instead what happened was, instead of it
(20:34):
being seven three, they got no points. Patriots went down
and scored and made it fourteen nothing. That's a huge
turnaround in the game because everything changed, right, and that's
what happened at the end. People think about you don't
think about it, but that was a turning point in
the game, no doubt, no doubt. And and again, if
the Rams had scored a touchdown where they're up twenty
(20:57):
four twenty versus the field goal, that changes the Saints
entire approach on that possession. So I just think at
the end of the day, it evened itself out. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific. Dude, you know what, you can say
whatever you want, And I'm not just hating up. This
(21:19):
is not this is an Andy Reid indictment. He can't
win the big game. I'm sorry. I know he's never
won a super Bowl. But Chris here we are now.
Andy Reid is arguably one of the best coaches in
the league. Right everybody said if a Laws one of
the best coaches in the league. His record is now
twelve and fourteen in the postseason. He's He's been to
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the championship game four times, three NFC championships and now
one AFC Championship one and three and now in Kansas City.
Since he's gone there, they're two and five and have
lost three of their last four home games in the NFL.
This was one. So weird is that both road teams won,
(22:03):
which just doesn't happen. I think twenty twelve was the
last time that doesn't happen that often because it's really
hard to win. But Andy Reid is the what coat
the worst coach of all time? He's he really is Jackson.
I'm talking about of a coach who has something going
like Marv Levy, Marve Leave than Matt Patricia. Marv Levy
(22:27):
is even better than than Andy Reid. And Marv Levy
lost all four Super Bowls marm but Grant lost four
Super Bowls. He's a Hall of Famer, Andy Reids Hall
of Fame. So what do you put the coaches in
who actually won a Super Bowl? Is there another thing
higher than there's a different floor. I mean, that's ridiculous.
How can you lose four straight Super Bowls and be
(22:49):
in a Hall of Fame? Getting there not about getting there,
It's not is an achievement, Rob, And in fact, getting
there means you did win a championship, you won your conference.
So you know what, Chris, the last the next four Sundays,
I'm gonna go to your church and stand out in front,
up the front door. I'm not coming in, but I
(23:10):
went to church because I'm gonna stand right out front.
Am I getting? Did I gain anything? Yeah? If you heard,
you can hear the message. I know I'm supposed to
go in, just like if I was going to the
Playboy mansion. Aren't you supposed to try to get in?
I don't know about the play Well, that's why I
bought the church up for you, because I figured my
Playboy mansion, think ain't gonna work. Because Chris ain't even
trying to go to MASSI you are, Rob, Rob jo,
(23:34):
he ain't even going. Don't let him corrupt you. You
know what? Now Here, Rob g gonna be in revival. Baby,
it's not it's gonna it's gonna be now. Uh me
and the Boss we'll go to I'm gonna take Scott. Okay,
Scot your pier. We're going to Magic City in the lamb.
Here's the thing. Look, I get where you're coming from,
meeting just to eat. I get where you're coming from
with Andy Reid. And Andy Reid is not Bill Belichick.
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Bill Belichick, you we talked about it a few minutes ago.
The Chiefs had the best they were number one in
the league in sacks hie for first fifty two. They
don't get close to Brady. That's coaching. And then the
pack of the Patriots, who had an anemic pass rush
all year, we're all over pat Mahomes. And here's the
(24:20):
other party. Right, people say, oh, well, that's defensive. Don't
blame Andy Reid. How you have the highest, one of
the highest schooling offenses. You get shut out in the
first half and your own building didn't make adjustment, but
they were ready to get it. But you have to
give him credit. Halfy shut out in your own big
thirty one in the second half. That's all I'm saying.
(24:40):
He's you know, he's got to win the big One,
but he is one of the best coaches in the
league and gonna be a Hall of Famer.
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