November 3, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether the Los Angeles Dodgers won the World Series or the Toronto Blue Jays choked it away, argue whether the Pittsburgh Steelers looked all that impressive in their win over the Indianapolis Colts, and tell us if it’s fair to say the Dodgers are a dynasty in Major League Baseball.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Blue Jays just finished the biggest choke job in
the history of Major League Baseball. And you know, normally
I would sing my old Canada. I was all prepared
for them to win or whatever. So I do have
a new song that I'm gonna debut right now.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Let me hear this, what Bladdy about to hear? No canad.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Your home man, native land, true patriot choke job all.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Over the Major League Baseball land. With closing hearts, we
see the rise of the Dodgers championship flag from far
and wide. No Canada, you lead down the entire country.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
God keep our.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Baseball glorius and free.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No Canada, you.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Choke it down royally. No Canada, you made me throw
up in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
With maple syrup on Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
This is fun. First of all no, Canada.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
First of all, you ain't got a bottle of metal
of maple syrupce save your life. Let's start there. Are
you done with your your your The calling is a
choke job.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It was a choke job. All right, let's just we'll
talk about it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm saying it was the greatest choke in the history
of the World Series. When you give up a home
run to a ninth place hitter who's had one hit
in the in the previous month, you pitch from behind,
you throw the ball over the plate right and it
hits it out to tie the game with Otani on deck,
(02:59):
like you couldn't asked for a more nightmarriage ending to
not winning a World Series. When you have to get
him out, you attack him. You throw fastballs they threw
like a slider or whatever, and you lose on that pitch.
You don't lose on your second best pitch.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Blue Jays we were here, we talked seventh, eighth. They
had runners on second when nobody out couldn't bring him in,
and finally in the ninth inning, a man on third
with one out couldn't bring him in. And then they
end the game on a double play to lose the world.
I mean they left sixty six men on base in
(03:37):
Game seven, they left fourteen on base, eight in scoring position.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It was a choke job.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
No, it wasn't stopping. You don't even believe it. You
didn't even say with conviction. That wasn't even Ron Parker.
Who was that? That wasn't Ron Parker. You don't believe that.
Let me tell you so many ways as wasn't a
choke job. Number one, In fact, the Dodgers had to
go out there and win every single one of the
games they won, including the two games they won in
Game three, which was a three yad two gamer doubleheader.
(04:08):
They had to go out there and make the places.
Freddy Freeman had to hit a clutch home run and
win that. Somebody had to do it. The Glue Jays
had several opportunities to do it after Dodger players had opportunity.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
To do it too.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You have Freddy Freeman do it, then, you know who
I want to give some credit to give me your
cookie back. I'm giving it to Dave Roberts. Because Dave
Roberts has been maligned, much maligned, is taking so much
criticism and every single thing he did the last couple
games work? We set up here on that Friday, they
moved Mookie down. Who gets a couple of RBIs Mookie?
(04:38):
You start talking about move Andy Piaz. We talked about
it again on Friday. Been struggling. What are you gonna do?
You move him out? Miggy comes in, He hits the
home run. Andy Piaz comes back in the game defensively,
makes one of the greatest clutch catches you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He was so great about What was so great about
it because if that leave his feet or died for
the ball, all he did was out.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
In front of the one of the pressure moment man,
and he hadn't been playing it. Did they crash into
each other? Ducked?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It wasn't because of the situation it was. It wasn't
a catch. He didn't jump over the fence right, exactly,
a pressure rized game. If you dropped that, man, it's
a rap, it's a game. Hits the home run.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Then he makes the play to get to will Smith,
who by the way, is quietly just hever forgetting about him.
He has his foot on base, gets him out. Then
he hits the game winning home run. That nobody even
talking about because of Rojas game tying one well.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because nobody can believe that you could allow a ninth
place hitter with one out in the night, when you're
two out from winning the World Series, for a guy
who had one hit in a previous month, you could
get a hit.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You can't give up a home run in that spot.
And why is that?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Why?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Why is that on the pitching, not on ros for
making a great play.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, and that's what the Dodgers did though a whole
in time. No, he worst of the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The last two games in Toronto both ended on double
plays where a ball goes to left field, the guy
on second base runs off the base and gets doubled
up on the ball that wasn't gonna drop.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That was what happened.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
That was a mistakee happens when teams played the Chiefs
in the postseason, when they played the patchas when they
played the Warriors, when you play champions, they seen when
you played the Spurs all those years. To find a
way to panic, to not be themselves, to freak out
what they're doing all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The Dodgers beat in this world, Okay, left fifty five
guys on base, even show hey, as much as people
wanted to crown.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Him, what did he do?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He gave up seven earned runs in his two starts
in the World Series. Seven earned runs and twelve innings.
Not stellar. Four point four to three e R which
isn't great. I'm just saying, none of your guys, Mookie
had three hits.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Or we hits in the World Series. And what do
I keep telling you? What Freddy no one home run?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
All I'm saying to you is it was lucky that
there was nothing luck about that that parade.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You can't beat the lucky team who dominates who you can.
You can't be the lucky team that sweeps the best
team in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers, who beats the Phillies
show the Phillies were the odds on to win the
World Series when we came into the Steague.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And so you beats them, you sweep the.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Mist of your baseball and then you go up against
a great team in the Blue Jays, and it takes
you to an amazing, great sect.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And why can't it just be that it was a
great World Series period? Why it all gotta be that
they choked it away?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
All women, you say to you, is today's parade should
have been in at the North Pole because that was
a Christmas gift from the Blue Jays man.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
They went out there and stole that thing. That was
time and time again. The Blue Jays could have won
Game three, give us the longest game ever?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Did they know? Show?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And they win a couple the Didgers going to their house,
gonna win and win you.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
In their house. Two and they take it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
And Dave Roberts made the right move after the right
Will Kine you ain't seeing before, You might not ever
see Will Klein again. Will Klein came in and gave
you four innings, seventy two pitches and the most he
had ever done was thirty six. But Dave Roberts stuck
with him. Dave Roberts Willion Kurshaw in for the one out.
Everything he did, and you gotta give him credit because
I everybody's been credited.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Everything he did, he put.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He let the Otawani start and was three nothing if
they lose that game.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
That was the right guy. That was the right move.
You go down with your guys. Otani had earned that.
You go down with Buddy had just pitched.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Was three days rest and you are Moto did in
three days rest Yamamoto was my gosh, he ready to
pitch on them right now?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Give some credit? Where is dude?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Rob?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I'm not an American Express, American Easy, but I'm not
giving a card. I'm not doing that. Charlie Hayes, give
some credit. You ain't getting a cookie.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Give me a back.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No, it's too late, all right. Eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixteen turn around. I don't want to see that
patch on talking about YouTube. Just YouTube, Come on YouTube.
I'm just saying what I can.
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Speaker 5 (09:59):
By his eyes From the the the obvious in the
World series obviously taking up all the second of all
the oxygen in the sports world, there still was some
football in the game. We all kind of discussed. You
had the Bills Chiefs being one of Another one that
we kind of kept an eye on was the Colts
at Pittsburgh, which was the Colts coming in at the
time seven and one, obviously a lot of people high
on them, and then the Pittsburgh steel Is coming in.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, the quarterback as an MVP, he was MVP. Kennedy
Patrick Mahomes is gonna probably win. Is he still he's
MVP after this week two? Yeah, he still got like
what eight weeks or something like that. No, I'm talking
about after this.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
They ain't gonna give it to Jonathan Taylor, So it
got to be a quarterback. But going into this game,
we had a couple of guests on throughout last week
and I was wondering, what, you know, what would this be.
This is a great game for both teams to kind
of put their mark on where they are through it
a halfway part of the season and what this team has,
what the teams really are heading towards the second half.
And I went into it. The Colts looked awful, They
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looked horrible. Daniel Jones we talked about, ended up having
three hundred and forty two yng touchdown, three interceptions. But
Jonathan Taylor the key part to me, only forty five yards.
And if you're gonna hold Jonathan Taylor to only forty
five yards, he's an engine that that then that's gonna
be a recipe for disaster. Because Daniel Jones, while he
has had a great resurgence, Daniel Jones, I can't rely
(11:17):
simply on Daniel Jones, so that can't be the case.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Credit the one big stat though, but he also had
three fumbles. He had to get three interceptions and three fumbles.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I just want you to and he he was singularly
the reason they lost. And again the defense to the
Steelers obviously caused those interceptions, caused those fumbles. But I
walked away from again, rob underwhelmed by the Steelers because
when I look and I tell you in two games
(11:47):
that they had eleven turnovers against the Colts, they had
six against the Patriots. Handful weeks back, they had five
and each game you escape by a touchdown. I walk
away from this still not knowing what the Pittsburgh Steelers
are other than what I think they are, which.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Is nine and eight, ten and seven. No, No, you
have them ten wins. Don't even do that. I've been saying, No, No,
nine and eight.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know you did not. We have a bet on
any and what I say, we have a bet on
ten wins.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So it can't be that you think they're gonna get
ten because we have a bet on ten wins. They're
absolutely just no, we have a bet on ten. And
you know what, I'm gonna stop you, and I'm gonna
stop you.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Hold on, let me get my last point.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Get your lad if I told you to f you on,
If I go ahead, I give you eleven turnover, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
You're supposed to dominate. If I give you six turnovers,
you're supposed to win handily. If I give you five
against the Patriots, you're supposed to win handily. And I'm
not saying every game you gotta win by twenty five
points or something at all. But they have not been
a team that's flump jumped to finish dominated somebody. They've
not have been a team that is just bludging somebody.
(12:58):
And again, you have all the these opportunities to do so.
And I walk away with the Steelers going eh, and
I just walk away saying they are middle of the pack,
middle of the road, and within their own division. I
still question if they're gonna be able to come out
of this. Obviously, the Ravens feel comfortable and confident in
what they'll be able to do, and if the Bengals
could ever close the game, the Bengals could be.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The good luck with that, hang on that Bengals. No
Joe Burrow, Joe Burrows talking about the damn Bengals. Let
me get That's my point? Is my issue I have
with you, Kelvin?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What's that? Here's my issue? What's that? It's about winning
and losing.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
This whole notion about having to win the way you
want them to win.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That makes no sense because guess what. Last year the
Chiefs won.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Eleven one score games, which is exactly what the Steelers
are doing.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So it's okay when the Chiefs and.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Patrick Mahomes wins by the skin of their teeth.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh it do man it's fifteen and two. They won
in the game. Man, I don't care how they won.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
They won.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And you're sitting here talking about coming into that game.
If you watched any pre pre pregame football show, the
Coats will annihilate the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's all everybody said.
They're going to annihilate this Dealers. They've lost the last
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two games. There's no way.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Number one offense against one of the worst defenses.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They will be annihilated in a.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Must win game for the Steelers against a really good
team record wise, and guess what they did. They did
what they had to do, which was win the game
and the last touchdown.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
If you want to say, oh, it's so close, you
give it to them.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Don't let them score too early, make them eat up
some clock.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I get all that. Take your foot off the gas.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
You don't have to press because that's what the Bears
wind up doing giving up two touchdowns to the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And the bottom line is that was a must win
for the Steelers and they got it done against the
team everybody and their uncle were picking the Colts in
that game because of what they had done and the
way that the Steelers defense they came up with turnovers.
So which one is it? No, I'll graduate now the
chief one is it?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I let you go. Now the Chiefs. The reason why
the completely different.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And you know, for the entire season I said right
here and told you what did I tell you?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Patrick Mahomes? Don't look right?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
What did I tell you? Patrick Mahomes is? Now he's
forcing it, Patrick Mahomes. It makes it easy throws. He's
forcing because he's missing guys. And that's the other thing.
The Chiefs never had their guys. They were never a
complete team. So for them to.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh, they gotta be done.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I'm not arguing that that was the issue last year,
is that Patrick Mahomes and that team were finding ways
to win as they kept losing, guys, kept dropping guys.
This guy come back, this guy's out and that's what
made it remarkable. And also they are a championship team,
so you must respect that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That is not what the Steelers are.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
The Steelers ain't even want to post get a playoff
game is so long, and they have their full compliment
of who they're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
This is why I thought in the.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Terrible defense and get there five point at the halfway points,
and that's still five games. That's why I still walk
away make any sense, That's why I walk away from
them still saying they don't.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
If I'm another team and you're talking about postseason.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
To me, they number one offensive mask because they got
all of it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
They turned the ball over.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Six and they turn it over to the game. I'm
just trying to still walk away from not knowing what
the Stellers games in the NFL. I'll give you a
history lesson. I decided by six points a lot. Nobody's
questioning I go. Most of the NFL doesn't mess with it.
And if six turnovers, I guarantee you don't win by three.
(16:51):
You don't have to nominate. If five interceptions and they
lost to the Lions, it ain't it's not automatic. Calm
from when I watched this, they dominate six, Did they
win the game? Did they win? They won the game?
And they don't and they don't.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Come on, man, they don't look great at these wins,
all these crazy and.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Don't look good and don't do.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
That when I just spent a whole hour telling you
that the Dodgers won.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Don't do that. No, you clearly get the difference. No,
you clearly gets a big difference. Clearly get given it
for night then and home run today.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And I gave you six to six interceptions and the
best you do is barely beat me twice. Five and
the five turnovers games and most NFL games are deciding
mostoints turnovers. Last year, you know, know the difference between
the Chiefs this year and last year was that last.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Year they were eleven and oh in one score game.
Guess what they are this year and four four. That's
why they have That's why they they're five and four
this season because they have won those absolutely and swinging
close games, those of the games.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
You want to win.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
My boy was Steelers getting eleven turnovers between two games.
Nobody cares they won. And I walk away still feeling
the same way. Man, No, you're just trying to man.
You just you're pointing it, okay that I feel. Man,
I can't even be wrong. You can't walk away from
the steelersuse you were wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
About justin field. You were wrong about a lot of stuff.
And this is my thing. You just have this thing.
I understand. You don't want to be wrong on this
Steelers thing, and they.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Hey, look you don't like I feel. No, man, you said, no,
that's exactly what I said. You have a shot, Russell Wilson,
have a shot the winner division. And what I said,
Russell Wills.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Not lose five games down the stretch.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
They look exactly like they did with Russe Russell Wilson.
That's what I said. The season you did, you said
eight or nine will looks just like they did.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
We five and six. We have a bet on ten.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
All I know is halfway through they got five wins
and all they got to do is win another five
in the In the last nine games, I feel.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Pretty exactly like I said they were Russell Will. They
won five or six win, then they lost five. Look
this whole team, and that's it's exact same. That's my
point is I expecting, if you get a good game
from your defense, dominate something.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
You don't need a team.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The Lords, the Bons dominated all those bad teams, and
guess what it got them when it came down to
being fifteen. Playoff No, they lost when playoff win they
lost they last year the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
No, they did not.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They lost their first playoff game last year, and they
dominated everybody. What do you what, they had a buy.
They had a buy and then they played Washington. They
the Lions.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The difference between the Lions, the difference between the.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Difference between the two games. The difference between the Lions
is the Lions had a chance to go to the
super Bowl the year.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Before, exactly what they Sason.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And I don't know how they dominated everybody last year?
What did they get them? And all of didn't get
them anything.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
They lost to Washington and Hollers are doing all of
this and they looked the same as they did last year.
That's all I'm saying, Rob, is that the Steelers looked
exact same as they did with Russell Wilson, which is
what I thought would happen. It's all I'm saying. Aaron
Rodgers has been and that's perfectly fine. But to me,
they're gonna be, like I told you, find themselves in
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the same predicament. And I watched the game where I
was all right, they about to really show us something
and they didn't. I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And they did. I don't even know what that means.
I don't understand. You don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Twenty seven to thirteen. They give up a late touchdown
to make the game. You think it's close, that Lions
game was twenty seven to twenty four. Because I want
you to know stand no, no, I want you to know,
if you watch the game at all, that game it
wasn't close. It wasn't because close as the score would indicate.
It wasn't closed. The Lions were five or for seventeen
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on third down, they couldn't convert. What are you talking
about the game? I'm talking about the actual game, not
the score, not the lasting score. The actual game wasn't
as close as the score indicated.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's all I'm saying to you. And don't let us score.
You don't let us watch.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
You know, I'm saying, don't let us twice now that
I've watched them get a total of eleven turnovers of
the game, did they win a game?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I'm not arguing that. Okay, they won the game. Why
we wasting air on this same reason? Why we just
ignored the Dodgers within it? The game a whole series,
I should say, not a game show. Well then well
then the coach Show. If you're gonna do it like that,
then the Lions showed the Coach Show. Anybody who loses
chokes right, No, every it's not everybody who loses. No,
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if they are a team, you get beat sometimes and
and then there's times you don't know when it is yes,
you you lose.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Sometimes the other team is just better than you. I
just did I want you to say that sometimes.
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Speaker 1 (21:54):
Live a little more baseball. You know, the World Seris
is over Saturday night. Incredible night for people watching and
just the whole thing. And the Dodgers had their parade today.
But you know already, you know people are trying to
call the Dodgers a dynasty. Key K said that, and
I'm going to pump the brakes because they are not
(22:15):
rob gnot a dynasty. Yes, they won in two thousand,
but then they went twenty twenty, but then of course
they went they didn't want to get until twenty twenty four,
so there was three years that went by, Okay, so
that kind of took that championships out of the dynasty
(22:36):
tag to me, you need to win three in a
row or three out of four like to be a dynasty.
That's the way I look at it. And yes, they're
the first team to win back to back since the
Yankees who won a ninety eight, ninety nine, and two thousand,
and the first National League team to win since the
(22:56):
Cincinnati Reds when they won back to back in nineteen
seventy five seventy six. And I know a lot of
people nowadays they think everything's a dynasty. The San Francisco
Giants won three championships in what five years or whatever
it was.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I never won back to back. They're not a dynasty
to me. Did they have an.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Unbelievable run apps, But but they didn't even win back
to back and they went won a championship, didn't make
the playoffs, won a championship, didn't make the playoffs, won
a championship and didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Come on, that's not a dynasty.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Well, they're like you a braand muffet. At least they're consistent,
are consistent. Win, don't get in, win, don't get in
when you get my point point and the same thing
people try to say the Spurs and they're no, they
just had a.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Winning culture there. But they won five and twenty years.
Not a dynasty. When the Yankees won, they won in
ninety six, they did not win in ninety seven. Then
they won ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand. So they
won three in a row and four out of five.
(24:04):
That's a dynasty. They were, for sure, am I right?
That's not in question. And when I look at this
Dodger team, and of course the way that they won
this one left a lot to be desired, I don't
look at them in the same light that I look
at that Yankee team in two thousand, or the Cincinnati
Reds now the Red Zone weren't a dynasty. They won
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the back to back, but they had the Big Red Machine.
That was an incredible team with so many great players
and all that. This Dodger team, now, if they win
another one, obviously they have to win another one.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
If they win three in a row, then I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That they're a dynasty. But right now, from twenty twenty
to twenty twenty five with the three champions, they're not
a dynasty. They're a very good team that's won back
to back championships.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
You tip your cap even if it's somewhat fraudulent. You
tip your cap because.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You can't help yourself. Boy, you're gonna let it slide
in there.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Because they did win. Give cookies back. I'm not knowing.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Going home.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Give me a twenty five of the cookies. No, I
mean you know what's share them with everybody. I had
the box in my bag, got to take it out.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
The look you gave me when I said no, that
was for everybody gave me to look like, who was everybody?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Look? I get your sentiment of the winning three in
a row.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
The only difference, the reason why I'll disagree with you
is because specifically baseball is much harder to win than
in NBA. Right, if you got Shaq and Kobe, you
can run off you got Michael Jordan, Pippen and Phil
Jackson and this Robbert, you can run off three. You
can do that in basketball. You know the heat heatles
go to four in a row. They only went to
but you know it's questionable if that. You know you
can do that in basketball football, if you got a
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team the Cowboys as they play Monday night, the Old Cowboys,
it's so hard to win in baseball. This is why
every Series is celibate, celebrated world The wild carn't remember.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
No, I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The Wild Card looks the same as the World Series
until Parade and all that, because it's so hard to win.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's one hundred and sixty two games. It is a marathon.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
You got guys out, guys if you can bring it up,
young guys from Triple Guys are going down and there
coming back. That was just yeah, and it's so difficult
to win. Turnover there for cowboys as they were marching
down the it's gonna be a bad night at the office.
It looks like, yeah, one of those looks like one
of those for them. But this is why to me,
I say that I understand why people are considered the
dynasty for them because here's the other thing. They have
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five pinnant titles since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That hold, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
They went to the World Series in twenty seventeen, lost
to the Astros. We all know what happened there, the
trash Tros, a lot of cheating going on, So I
think that benefit of them, people feel like they got
cheated in that one. They go the very next year
they lose to Mookie Bets and the Red Sox. They
would get Mookie two years later, but that to me,
going to the World Series five times since twenty seventeen
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and winning three, that's why you get the dynasty. Because
they've won three and I've gone to five, rob that
is insane and that's why you lost too. Yes, they
lost too and one was controversial with a cheating, but
they lost two. It did, but they going to a
dynasty and they've lost to two, three, three and five
years are three and five appearances in twenty seventeen is
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to me? And the expectations I don't know. I didn't
look it out, and Martin Martin might know. I would
imagine that the odds on favorite right now, Robi thumbs
up and not even looking out.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Here, I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Every team that the expectation is for them to win again,
which would that's that's board if you believe.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You also mentioned look how hard it is back to back?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
No, but that right now?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Oh no, But that's what makes you a dynasty. And
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You my point about the San Francisco Giants who couldn't
even make the playoffs after they won a Championship. So
under your standards, they would be a dynasty, right, No,
because they didn't make the post season. They made they
won three can not make the postseason. The Dodgers have
made the postseason thirteen fourteen years in a row, but
they want more than the Dodgers doing the same stretch
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you're talking about. No, they both got three, right, Yeah,
but the difference is the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
The Dodgers are Dodgers one.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And twenty twenty. Then they they did twenty one, twenty two,
twenty three. That's three years, right, and now twenty four
to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
What I'm saying is every single one of those years
the Dodgers were in the postseason and they went to
the World Series twice.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But you gotta say the Dodgers is six seasons. It's
not five years. It's six seasons, right, Okay, so three
and six seasons and it's still.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Not and don't forget the other two World Series appearances.
That is dynastic.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And I can agree with that. And I'm saying, especially in.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Baseball, and the key part is something you mentioned back
to back is basically an impossibility in MLB. It hadn't
happened in the NL in fifty years, So to me,
for them to then turn around and do that is huge.
They actually did what hasn't happened in almost fifty years.
It hasn't happened in twenty five in MLB, but fifty
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almost in the NL. So to me, to win three
in six seasons, go to five and what eight nine seasons,
that is impressive.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's not a dynasty. As impressive as it is. It's
the same thing I talk about the Spurs. The Spurs
never won back to back, but the Domos now as
good as they are, No, they were on their they
need one more, not triple.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I'm saying they went back to back. Now I'm talking
about winning. The Spurs never won back to back. They
just like odd years, oh three oh five, oh season
like that.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's what I'm saying they were. They were doing a giants.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean, to me, a dynasty, a true dynasty. When
the Cowboys won their three Super Bowl it was three
out of four years. That's they won two and they
won three out of four. That to me is when
you are a dynasty. When you are when they when
the Lakers won the three straight with Kobe and Shack.
That's a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Three straight.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
When Michael Jordan and then won three straight twice, that's
a dynasty. Nobody else can can, can, can breathe, can win.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Can get a taste of it.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And the Yankees won three in a row and four
out of five, and that nineteen ninety seven they probably
could have won that. They win again in two thousand
and one, lost that World Series, were up. In two
thousand and three, the Red Sox three nothing to go
to another World Series. They didn't win that. You know,
they got knocked out there. I mean, they had a run.
But the only ones that matter are those four out
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of five that they won. To me and the only
I totally agree with you if this were other sports.
The difference I have in baseball is how hard it
is to just win in general. If you felt for Mars,
you would have thought the Chicago Cubs were one of
the best teams in baseball, and one at a time
in the Red Sox, you didn't realize winning. I mean,
they sell out, they're huge, they're the always game of
the week, they're the big thing. The Cubs ain't winning
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a hundred years.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
If all of a sudden the NBA team or NFL team,
if it didn't win in a hundred years, that would
be like ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Nope, like the biggest thing. It would be like the
Lions not winning the super Bowl and.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Won the super Bowl. They did win a championship, but
not a super Bowl. Don't dispect them super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I know you're right.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I'm just make sure you put some respect on that
nineteen fifty whatever championship, nineteen fifty fifty seven. So that's
my that's my thing is that in baseball, this is
about as dynastic as you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
The Yankees they really were the second go the standard.
They were the anomaly. No, that's the standard. Is what
you want? No, the anomaly. This doesn't happen. What don't
you want? What happened?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But you gotta win at least three to be a dynasty,
even two us as great as time giving you the
the Dodgers have won three in six seasons. No, that
ain't baseball. That is enough baseball. That's a whole lot.
Three and six and you went to two other ones.
And if you didn't get cheated, you might have had
four and seven years. If you didn't get cheated, by
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the trash Ros Jose two. They still ain't took his
shirt off, going swimming with his shirt on Are eight
seven seven ninety nine on Foxes off telephone number eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Are
the Dodgers are dynasty? Kelvin says, yes, they are already.
The two in a row and three in six seasons
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is a dynasty. I say, no way, no, how is
that the case three in a row or four out
of five or three and four years like the Cowboys
when they were a true dynasty. That to me when
you're winning at that clip, not getting to the finals,
but actually the championship. But actually it's the winning for me, right,
It's about winning the championship, not winning, not going to
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the championship or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It's about winning.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Where are you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
the Dodgers, Kelvin said, they've punched their ticket.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
They were dynasty. They are a dynasty. I'm saying, no way.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
No how.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We're gonna be right here next year. You know that, right,
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Blue Jays just finished the biggest choke job in
the history of Major League Baseball. And you know, normally
I would sing my old Canada. I was all prepared
for them to win or whatever. So I do have
a new song that I'm gonna debut right now.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Let me hear this, what Bladdy about to hear? No canad.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Your home man, native land, true patriot choke job all.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Over the Major League Baseball land. With closing hearts, we
see the rise of the Dodgers championship flag from far
and wide. No Canada, you lead down the entire country.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
God keep our.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Baseball glorius and free.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No Canada, you.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Choke it down royally. No Canada, you made me throw
up in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
With maple syrup on Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
This is fun. First of all no, Canada.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
First of all, you ain't got a bottle of metal
of maple syrupce save your life. Let's start there. Are
you done with your your your The calling is a
choke job.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
It was a choke job. All right, let's just we'll
talk about it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm saying it was the greatest choke in the history
of the World Series. When you give up a home
run to a ninth place hitter who's had one hit
in the in the previous month, you pitch from behind,
you throw the ball over the plate right and it
hits it out to tie the game with Otani on deck,
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like you couldn't asked for a more nightmarriage ending to
not winning a World Series. When you have to get
him out, you attack him. You throw fastballs they threw
like a slider or whatever, and you lose on that pitch.
You don't lose on your second best pitch.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Blue Jays we were here, we talked seventh, eighth. They
had runners on second when nobody out couldn't bring him in,
and finally in the ninth inning, a man on third
with one out couldn't bring him in. And then they
end the game on a double play to lose the world.
I mean they left sixty six men on base in
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Game seven, they left fourteen on base, eight in scoring position.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It was a choke job.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
No, it wasn't stopping. You don't even believe it. You
didn't even say with conviction. That wasn't even Ron Parker.
Who was that? That wasn't Ron Parker. You don't believe that.
Let me tell you so many ways as wasn't a
choke job. Number one, In fact, the Dodgers had to
go out there and win every single one of the
games they won, including the two games they won in
Game three, which was a three yad two gamer doubleheader.
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They had to go out there and make the places.
Freddy Freeman had to hit a clutch home run and
win that. Somebody had to do it. The Glue Jays
had several opportunities to do it after Dodger players had opportunity.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
To do it too.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
You have Freddy Freeman do it, then, you know who
I want to give some credit to give me your
cookie back. I'm giving it to Dave Roberts. Because Dave
Roberts has been maligned, much maligned, is taking so much
criticism and every single thing he did the last couple
games work? We set up here on that Friday, they
moved Mookie down. Who gets a couple of RBIs Mookie?
(04:38):
You start talking about move Andy Piaz. We talked about
it again on Friday. Been struggling. What are you gonna do?
You move him out? Miggy comes in, He hits the
home run. Andy Piaz comes back in the game defensively,
makes one of the greatest clutch catches you've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He was so great about What was so great about
it because if that leave his feet or died for
the ball, all he did was out.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
In front of the one of the pressure moment man,
and he hadn't been playing it. Did they crash into
each other? Ducked?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It wasn't because of the situation it was. It wasn't
a catch. He didn't jump over the fence right, exactly,
a pressure rized game. If you dropped that, man, it's
a rap, it's a game. Hits the home run.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Then he makes the play to get to will Smith,
who by the way, is quietly just hever forgetting about him.
He has his foot on base, gets him out. Then
he hits the game winning home run. That nobody even
talking about because of Rojas game tying one well.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Because nobody can believe that you could allow a ninth
place hitter with one out in the night, when you're
two out from winning the World Series, for a guy
who had one hit in a previous month, you could
get a hit.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You can't give up a home run in that spot.
And why is that?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Why?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Why is that on the pitching, not on ros for
making a great play.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
No, and that's what the Dodgers did though a whole
in time. No, he worst of the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
The last two games in Toronto both ended on double
plays where a ball goes to left field, the guy
on second base runs off the base and gets doubled
up on the ball that wasn't gonna drop.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That was what happened.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
That was a mistakee happens when teams played the Chiefs
in the postseason, when they played the patchas when they
played the Warriors, when you play champions, they seen when
you played the Spurs all those years. To find a
way to panic, to not be themselves, to freak out
what they're doing all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The Dodgers beat in this world, Okay, left fifty five
guys on base, even show hey, as much as people
wanted to crown.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Him, what did he do?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He gave up seven earned runs in his two starts
in the World Series. Seven earned runs and twelve innings.
Not stellar. Four point four to three e R which
isn't great. I'm just saying, none of your guys, Mookie
had three hits.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Or we hits in the World Series. And what do
I keep telling you? What Freddy no one home run?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
All I'm saying to you is it was lucky that
there was nothing luck about that that parade.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
You can't beat the lucky team who dominates who you can.
You can't be the lucky team that sweeps the best
team in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers, who beats the Phillies
show the Phillies were the odds on to win the
World Series when we came into the Steague.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
And so you beats them, you sweep the.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Mist of your baseball and then you go up against
a great team in the Blue Jays, and it takes
you to an amazing, great sect.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And why can't it just be that it was a
great World Series period? Why it all gotta be that
they choked it away?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
All women, you say to you, is today's parade should
have been in at the North Pole because that was
a Christmas gift from the Blue Jays man.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
They went out there and stole that thing. That was
time and time again. The Blue Jays could have won
Game three, give us the longest game ever?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Did they know? Show?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And they win a couple the Didgers going to their house,
gonna win and win you.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
In their house. Two and they take it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
And Dave Roberts made the right move after the right
Will Kine you ain't seeing before, You might not ever
see Will Klein again. Will Klein came in and gave
you four innings, seventy two pitches and the most he
had ever done was thirty six. But Dave Roberts stuck
with him. Dave Roberts Willion Kurshaw in for the one out.
Everything he did, and you gotta give him credit because
I everybody's been credited.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Everything he did, he put.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He let the Otawani start and was three nothing if
they lose that game.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
That was the right guy. That was the right move.
You go down with your guys. Otani had earned that.
You go down with Buddy had just pitched.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Was three days rest and you are Moto did in
three days rest Yamamoto was my gosh, he ready to
pitch on them right now?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Give some credit? Where is dude?
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Rob?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
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Speaker 1 (08:53):
I'm not an American Express, American Easy, but I'm not
giving a card. I'm not doing that. Charlie Hayes, give
some credit. You ain't getting a cookie.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Give me a back.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No, it's too late, all right. Eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixteen turn around. I don't want to see that
patch on talking about YouTube. Just YouTube, Come on YouTube.
I'm just saying what I can.
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Speaker 5 (09:59):
By his eyes From the the the obvious in the
World series obviously taking up all the second of all
the oxygen in the sports world, there still was some
football in the game. We all kind of discussed. You
had the Bills Chiefs being one of Another one that
we kind of kept an eye on was the Colts
at Pittsburgh, which was the Colts coming in at the
time seven and one, obviously a lot of people high
on them, and then the Pittsburgh steel Is coming in.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, the quarterback as an MVP, he was MVP. Kennedy
Patrick Mahomes is gonna probably win. Is he still he's
MVP after this week two? Yeah, he still got like
what eight weeks or something like that. No, I'm talking
about after this.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
They ain't gonna give it to Jonathan Taylor, So it
got to be a quarterback. But going into this game,
we had a couple of guests on throughout last week
and I was wondering, what, you know, what would this be.
This is a great game for both teams to kind
of put their mark on where they are through it
a halfway part of the season and what this team has,
what the teams really are heading towards the second half.
And I went into it. The Colts looked awful, They
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looked horrible. Daniel Jones we talked about, ended up having
three hundred and forty two yng touchdown, three interceptions. But
Jonathan Taylor the key part to me, only forty five yards.
And if you're gonna hold Jonathan Taylor to only forty
five yards, he's an engine that that then that's gonna
be a recipe for disaster. Because Daniel Jones, while he
has had a great resurgence, Daniel Jones, I can't rely
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simply on Daniel Jones, so that can't be the case.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Credit the one big stat though, but he also had
three fumbles. He had to get three interceptions and three fumbles.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I just want you to and he he was singularly
the reason they lost. And again the defense to the
Steelers obviously caused those interceptions, caused those fumbles. But I
walked away from again, rob underwhelmed by the Steelers because
when I look and I tell you in two games
(11:47):
that they had eleven turnovers against the Colts, they had
six against the Patriots. Handful weeks back, they had five
and each game you escape by a touchdown. I walk
away from this still not knowing what the Pittsburgh Steelers
are other than what I think they are, which.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Is nine and eight, ten and seven. No, No, you
have them ten wins. Don't even do that. I've been saying, No, No,
nine and eight.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know you did not. We have a bet on
any and what I say, we have a bet on
ten wins.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So it can't be that you think they're gonna get
ten because we have a bet on ten wins. They're
absolutely just no, we have a bet on ten. And
you know what, I'm gonna stop you, and I'm gonna
stop you.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Hold on, let me get my last point.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Get your lad if I told you to f you on,
If I go ahead, I give you eleven turnover, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
You're supposed to dominate. If I give you six turnovers,
you're supposed to win handily. If I give you five
against the Patriots, you're supposed to win handily. And I'm
not saying every game you gotta win by twenty five
points or something at all. But they have not been
a team that's flump jumped to finish dominated somebody. They've
not have been a team that is just bludging somebody.
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And again, you have all the these opportunities to do so.
And I walk away with the Steelers going eh, and
I just walk away saying they are middle of the pack,
middle of the road, and within their own division. I
still question if they're gonna be able to come out
of this. Obviously, the Ravens feel comfortable and confident in
what they'll be able to do, and if the Bengals
could ever close the game, the Bengals could be.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The good luck with that, hang on that Bengals. No
Joe Burrow, Joe Burrows talking about the damn Bengals. Let
me get That's my point? Is my issue I have
with you, Kelvin?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What's that? Here's my issue? What's that? It's about winning
and losing.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
This whole notion about having to win the way you
want them to win.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That makes no sense because guess what. Last year the
Chiefs won.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Eleven one score games, which is exactly what the Steelers
are doing.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So it's okay when the Chiefs and.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Patrick Mahomes wins by the skin of their teeth.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh it do man it's fifteen and two. They won
in the game. Man, I don't care how they won.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
They won.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And you're sitting here talking about coming into that game.
If you watched any pre pre pregame football show, the
Coats will annihilate the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's all everybody said.
They're going to annihilate this Dealers. They've lost the last
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two games. There's no way.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Number one offense against one of the worst defenses.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They will be annihilated in a.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Must win game for the Steelers against a really good
team record wise, and guess what they did. They did
what they had to do, which was win the game
and the last touchdown.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
If you want to say, oh, it's so close, you
give it to them.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Don't let them score too early, make them eat up
some clock.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I get all that. Take your foot off the gas.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
You don't have to press because that's what the Bears
wind up doing giving up two touchdowns to the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
You don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And the bottom line is that was a must win
for the Steelers and they got it done against the
team everybody and their uncle were picking the Colts in
that game because of what they had done and the
way that the Steelers defense they came up with turnovers.
So which one is it? No, I'll graduate now the
chief one is it?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I let you go. Now the Chiefs. The reason why
the completely different.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And you know, for the entire season I said right
here and told you what did I tell you?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Patrick Mahomes? Don't look right?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
What did I tell you? Patrick Mahomes is? Now he's
forcing it, Patrick Mahomes. It makes it easy throws. He's
forcing because he's missing guys. And that's the other thing.
The Chiefs never had their guys. They were never a
complete team. So for them to.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh, they gotta be done.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I'm not arguing that that was the issue last year,
is that Patrick Mahomes and that team were finding ways
to win as they kept losing, guys, kept dropping guys.
This guy come back, this guy's out and that's what
made it remarkable. And also they are a championship team,
so you must respect that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
That is not what the Steelers are.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
The Steelers ain't even want to post get a playoff
game is so long, and they have their full compliment
of who they're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
This is why I thought in the.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Terrible defense and get there five point at the halfway points,
and that's still five games. That's why I still walk
away make any sense, That's why I walk away from
them still saying they don't.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
If I'm another team and you're talking about postseason.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
To me, they number one offensive mask because they got
all of it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
They turned the ball over.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Six and they turn it over to the game. I'm
just trying to still walk away from not knowing what
the Stellers games in the NFL. I'll give you a
history lesson. I decided by six points a lot. Nobody's
questioning I go. Most of the NFL doesn't mess with it.
And if six turnovers, I guarantee you don't win by three.
(16:51):
You don't have to nominate. If five interceptions and they
lost to the Lions, it ain't it's not automatic. Calm
from when I watched this, they dominate six, Did they
win the game? Did they win? They won the game?
And they don't and they don't.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Come on, man, they don't look great at these wins,
all these crazy and.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Don't look good and don't do.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
That when I just spent a whole hour telling you
that the Dodgers won.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Don't do that. No, you clearly get the difference. No,
you clearly gets a big difference. Clearly get given it
for night then and home run today.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And I gave you six to six interceptions and the
best you do is barely beat me twice. Five and
the five turnovers games and most NFL games are deciding
mostoints turnovers. Last year, you know, know the difference between
the Chiefs this year and last year was that last.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Year they were eleven and oh in one score game.
Guess what they are this year and four four. That's
why they have That's why they they're five and four
this season because they have won those absolutely and swinging
close games, those of the games.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
You want to win.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
My boy was Steelers getting eleven turnovers between two games.
Nobody cares they won. And I walk away still feeling
the same way. Man, No, you're just trying to man.
You just you're pointing it, okay that I feel. Man,
I can't even be wrong. You can't walk away from
the steelersuse you were wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
About justin field. You were wrong about a lot of stuff.
And this is my thing. You just have this thing.
I understand. You don't want to be wrong on this
Steelers thing, and they.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Hey, look you don't like I feel. No, man, you said, no,
that's exactly what I said. You have a shot, Russell Wilson,
have a shot the winner division. And what I said,
Russell Wills.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Not lose five games down the stretch.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
They look exactly like they did with Russe Russell Wilson.
That's what I said. The season you did, you said
eight or nine will looks just like they did.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
We five and six. We have a bet on ten.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
All I know is halfway through they got five wins
and all they got to do is win another five
in the In the last nine games, I feel.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Pretty exactly like I said they were Russell Will. They
won five or six win, then they lost five. Look
this whole team, and that's it's exact same. That's my
point is I expecting, if you get a good game
from your defense, dominate something.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
You don't need a team.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The Lords, the Bons dominated all those bad teams, and
guess what it got them when it came down to
being fifteen. Playoff No, they lost when playoff win they
lost they last year the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
No, they did not.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They lost their first playoff game last year, and they
dominated everybody. What do you what, they had a buy.
They had a buy and then they played Washington. They
the Lions.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The difference between the Lions, the difference between the.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Difference between the two games. The difference between the Lions
is the Lions had a chance to go to the
super Bowl the year.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Before, exactly what they Sason.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
And I don't know how they dominated everybody last year?
What did they get them? And all of didn't get
them anything.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
They lost to Washington and Hollers are doing all of
this and they looked the same as they did last year.
That's all I'm saying, Rob, is that the Steelers looked
exact same as they did with Russell Wilson, which is
what I thought would happen. It's all I'm saying. Aaron
Rodgers has been and that's perfectly fine. But to me,
they're gonna be, like I told you, find themselves in
(20:13):
the same predicament. And I watched the game where I
was all right, they about to really show us something
and they didn't. I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And they did. I don't even know what that means.
I don't understand. You don't know what that means.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Twenty seven to thirteen. They give up a late touchdown
to make the game. You think it's close, that Lions
game was twenty seven to twenty four. Because I want
you to know stand no, no, I want you to know,
if you watch the game at all, that game it
wasn't close. It wasn't because close as the score would indicate.
It wasn't closed. The Lions were five or for seventeen
(20:43):
on third down, they couldn't convert. What are you talking
about the game? I'm talking about the actual game, not
the score, not the lasting score. The actual game wasn't
as close as the score indicated.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's all I'm saying to you. And don't let us score.
You don't let us watch.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
You know, I'm saying, don't let us twice now that
I've watched them get a total of eleven turnovers of
the game, did they win a game?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I'm not arguing that. Okay, they won the game. Why
we wasting air on this same reason? Why we just
ignored the Dodgers within it? The game a whole series,
I should say, not a game show. Well then well
then the coach Show. If you're gonna do it like that,
then the Lions showed the Coach Show. Anybody who loses
chokes right, No, every it's not everybody who loses. No,
(21:31):
if they are a team, you get beat sometimes and
and then there's times you don't know when it is yes,
you you lose.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Sometimes the other team is just better than you. I
just did I want you to say that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
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Speaker 1 (21:54):
Live a little more baseball. You know, the World Seris
is over Saturday night. Incredible night for people watching and
just the whole thing. And the Dodgers had their parade today.
But you know already, you know people are trying to
call the Dodgers a dynasty. Key K said that, and
I'm going to pump the brakes because they are not
(22:15):
rob gnot a dynasty. Yes, they won in two thousand,
but then they went twenty twenty, but then of course
they went they didn't want to get until twenty twenty four,
so there was three years that went by, Okay, so
that kind of took that championships out of the dynasty
(22:36):
tag to me, you need to win three in a
row or three out of four like to be a dynasty.
That's the way I look at it. And yes, they're
the first team to win back to back since the
Yankees who won a ninety eight, ninety nine, and two thousand,
and the first National League team to win since the
(22:56):
Cincinnati Reds when they won back to back in nineteen
seventy five seventy six. And I know a lot of
people nowadays they think everything's a dynasty. The San Francisco
Giants won three championships in what five years or whatever
it was.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I never won back to back. They're not a dynasty
to me. Did they have an.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Unbelievable run apps, But but they didn't even win back
to back and they went won a championship, didn't make
the playoffs, won a championship, didn't make the playoffs, won
a championship and didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Come on, that's not a dynasty.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Well, they're like you a braand muffet. At least they're consistent,
are consistent. Win, don't get in, win, don't get in
when you get my point point and the same thing
people try to say the Spurs and they're no, they
just had a.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Winning culture there. But they won five and twenty years.
Not a dynasty. When the Yankees won, they won in
ninety six, they did not win in ninety seven. Then
they won ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand. So they
won three in a row and four out of five.
(24:04):
That's a dynasty. They were, for sure, am I right?
That's not in question. And when I look at this
Dodger team, and of course the way that they won
this one left a lot to be desired, I don't
look at them in the same light that I look
at that Yankee team in two thousand, or the Cincinnati
Reds now the Red Zone weren't a dynasty. They won
(24:26):
the back to back, but they had the Big Red Machine.
That was an incredible team with so many great players
and all that. This Dodger team, now, if they win
another one, obviously they have to win another one.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
If they win three in a row, then I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That they're a dynasty. But right now, from twenty twenty
to twenty twenty five with the three champions, they're not
a dynasty. They're a very good team that's won back
to back championships.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
You tip your cap even if it's somewhat fraudulent. You
tip your cap because.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
You can't help yourself. Boy, you're gonna let it slide
in there.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Because they did win. Give cookies back. I'm not knowing.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Going home.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Give me a twenty five of the cookies. No, I
mean you know what's share them with everybody. I had
the box in my bag, got to take it out.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
The look you gave me when I said no, that
was for everybody gave me to look like, who was everybody?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Look? I get your sentiment of the winning three in
a row.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
The only difference, the reason why I'll disagree with you
is because specifically baseball is much harder to win than
in NBA. Right, if you got Shaq and Kobe, you
can run off you got Michael Jordan, Pippen and Phil
Jackson and this Robbert, you can run off three. You
can do that in basketball. You know the heat heatles
go to four in a row. They only went to
but you know it's questionable if that. You know you
can do that in basketball football, if you got a
(25:41):
team the Cowboys as they play Monday night, the Old Cowboys,
it's so hard to win in baseball. This is why
every Series is celibate, celebrated world The wild carn't remember.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
No, I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The Wild Card looks the same as the World Series
until Parade and all that, because it's so hard to win.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's one hundred and sixty two games. It is a marathon.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
You got guys out, guys if you can bring it up,
young guys from Triple Guys are going down and there
coming back. That was just yeah, and it's so difficult
to win. Turnover there for cowboys as they were marching
down the it's gonna be a bad night at the office.
It looks like, yeah, one of those looks like one
of those for them. But this is why to me,
I say that I understand why people are considered the
dynasty for them because here's the other thing. They have
(26:23):
five pinnant titles since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That hold, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
They went to the World Series in twenty seventeen, lost
to the Astros. We all know what happened there, the
trash Tros, a lot of cheating going on, So I
think that benefit of them, people feel like they got
cheated in that one. They go the very next year
they lose to Mookie Bets and the Red Sox. They
would get Mookie two years later, but that to me,
going to the World Series five times since twenty seventeen
(26:53):
and winning three, that's why you get the dynasty. Because
they've won three and I've gone to five, rob that
is insane and that's why you lost too. Yes, they
lost too and one was controversial with a cheating, but
they lost two. It did, but they going to a
dynasty and they've lost to two, three, three and five
years are three and five appearances in twenty seventeen is
(27:15):
to me? And the expectations I don't know. I didn't
look it out, and Martin Martin might know. I would
imagine that the odds on favorite right now, Robi thumbs
up and not even looking out.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Here, I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Every team that the expectation is for them to win again,
which would that's that's board if you believe.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You also mentioned look how hard it is back to back?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
No, but that right now?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Oh no, But that's what makes you a dynasty. And
here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
You my point about the San Francisco Giants who couldn't
even make the playoffs after they won a Championship. So
under your standards, they would be a dynasty, right, No,
because they didn't make the post season. They made they
won three can not make the postseason. The Dodgers have
made the postseason thirteen fourteen years in a row, but
they want more than the Dodgers doing the same stretch
(28:00):
you're talking about. No, they both got three, right, Yeah,
but the difference is the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
The Dodgers are Dodgers one.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
And twenty twenty. Then they they did twenty one, twenty two,
twenty three. That's three years, right, and now twenty four
to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
What I'm saying is every single one of those years
the Dodgers were in the postseason and they went to
the World Series twice.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But you gotta say the Dodgers is six seasons. It's
not five years. It's six seasons, right, Okay, so three
and six seasons and it's still.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Not and don't forget the other two World Series appearances.
That is dynastic.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And I can agree with that. And I'm saying, especially in.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Baseball, and the key part is something you mentioned back
to back is basically an impossibility in MLB. It hadn't
happened in the NL in fifty years, So to me,
for them to then turn around and do that is huge.
They actually did what hasn't happened in almost fifty years.
It hasn't happened in twenty five in MLB, but fifty
(29:00):
almost in the NL. So to me, to win three
in six seasons, go to five and what eight nine seasons,
that is impressive.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's not a dynasty. As impressive as it is. It's
the same thing I talk about the Spurs. The Spurs
never won back to back, but the Domos now as
good as they are, No, they were on their they
need one more, not triple.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
I'm saying they went back to back. Now I'm talking
about winning. The Spurs never won back to back. They
just like odd years, oh three oh five, oh season
like that.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
That's what I'm saying they were. They were doing a giants.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I mean, to me, a dynasty, a true dynasty. When
the Cowboys won their three Super Bowl it was three
out of four years. That's they won two and they
won three out of four. That to me is when
you are a dynasty. When you are when they when
the Lakers won the three straight with Kobe and Shack.
That's a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Three straight.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
When Michael Jordan and then won three straight twice, that's
a dynasty. Nobody else can can, can, can breathe, can win.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Can get a taste of it.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
And the Yankees won three in a row and four
out of five, and that nineteen ninety seven they probably
could have won that. They win again in two thousand
and one, lost that World Series, were up. In two
thousand and three, the Red Sox three nothing to go
to another World Series. They didn't win that. You know,
they got knocked out there. I mean, they had a run.
But the only ones that matter are those four out
(30:23):
of five that they won. To me and the only
I totally agree with you if this were other sports.
The difference I have in baseball is how hard it
is to just win in general. If you felt for Mars,
you would have thought the Chicago Cubs were one of
the best teams in baseball, and one at a time
in the Red Sox, you didn't realize winning. I mean,
they sell out, they're huge, they're the always game of
the week, they're the big thing. The Cubs ain't winning
(30:44):
a hundred years.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
If all of a sudden the NBA team or NFL team,
if it didn't win in a hundred years, that would
be like ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Nope, like the biggest thing. It would be like the
Lions not winning the super Bowl and.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Won the super Bowl. They did win a championship, but
not a super Bowl. Don't dispect them super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I know you're right.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I'm just make sure you put some respect on that
nineteen fifty whatever championship, nineteen fifty fifty seven. So that's
my that's my thing is that in baseball, this is
about as dynastic as you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
The Yankees they really were the second go the standard.
They were the anomaly. No, that's the standard. Is what
you want? No, the anomaly. This doesn't happen. What don't
you want? What happened?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But you gotta win at least three to be a dynasty,
even two us as great as time giving you the
the Dodgers have won three in six seasons. No, that
ain't baseball. That is enough baseball. That's a whole lot.
Three and six and you went to two other ones.
And if you didn't get cheated, you might have had
four and seven years. If you didn't get cheated, by
(31:45):
the trash Ros Jose two. They still ain't took his
shirt off, going swimming with his shirt on Are eight
seven seven ninety nine on Foxes off telephone number eight
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Are
the Dodgers are dynasty? Kelvin says, yes, they are already.
The two in a row and three in six seasons
(32:06):
is a dynasty. I say, no way, no, how is
that the case three in a row or four out
of five or three and four years like the Cowboys
when they were a true dynasty. That to me when
you're winning at that clip, not getting to the finals,
but actually the championship. But actually it's the winning for me, right,
It's about winning the championship, not winning, not going to
(32:29):
the championship or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
It's about winning.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Where are you eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
the Dodgers, Kelvin said, they've punched their ticket.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
They were dynasty. They are a dynasty. I'm saying, no way.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
No how.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
We're gonna be right here next year. You know that, right,
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