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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is up, Drake Fire Player. It's me Jason McIntyre.
Straight Player for Thursday, November the fifth, I'm sorry November
the sixth. Yes, as we record this very late in
the night. Just got back from Lakers Spurs the foulfest
that saw eighty four free throws shot. Oh my gosh,
(00:30):
you gotta be kidding me. I have a theory. We'll
get into it shortly. Best bet for Thursday night Football.
It's actually a big one this week with the Broncos.
If you're going to listen to if you're still alive
in Survivor, I think you'll like the end of the podcast.
But we obviously have to start with the Lakers Spurs
showdown at the Crypt, and obviously the fouls are going
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to be the big story today when you talk to anybody,
it was kind of an abomination. I thought it ruined
the game, made it disjointed. But I mean you called
thirty six on the Spurs, thirty on the Lakers. When
Bin Yama fouls out, Luca played, I'm fairly cert in
the final, like fourteen or fifteen minutes with five personal fouls.
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I think It's a miracle that he stayed on there.
He was back to his old Luca. I remember watching
Luca at a MAVs Lakers game and he was barking
in the rest the whole time. It was incessant, it
was hilarious. I just watched him do it, and he
was back on that last night against the Spurs. Here's
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the thing, when Binyama did not look incredible and otherworldly
like he did in the season opener. He finished with
nineteen points in thirty three minutes, missed his two threes,
looked great at the line, nine of eleven, did have
five turnovers, eight boards, three assists. He was good, but
he was not amazing. It's pretty clear that the Phoenix
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Suns put the blueprint out in the last game for
what to do to webbin Yama, and the Lakers did
a lot of it. It's very clear. So what the
Suns did and the Sun's whooped Whispurs I think it
was Sunday, And if you go back and watch the
highlights on YouTube, a lot of it was, Hey, we're
not just gonna put our biggest guy or our second
biggest guy on wemby. We're gonna switch everything and be
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physical as hell, and the Lakers indeed switched everything. Marcus Smart,
Jiic La Ravia, whoever was on Wemby. Here's the other thing.
If he caught it outside the paint, there was a
hard double team to get him to give it up.
And Wemby's not splitting double teams. Okay, he's a great passer.
He had a couple of awesome dimes that I was
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impressed with, but it's very clear that guards need to
be physical with it. And Marcus Smart, listen, it's funny.
Marcus Smart former Celtic obviously was extremely physical and I
don't want to say it, Bob Third Wemby, but he's
still getting strong. We're talking about a young kid. He's
obviously way stronger than he was last year and as
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his rookiear when he shot a lot of threes. But
the Lakers were physical as hell with him. Anybody who
matched up was putting a body on him, leaning and
then the double came and it didn't give Wemby time
to totally operate and cook. I mean, he only took
fourteen shots. Champagne took fourteen shots, Devin Vassel took fourteen shots.
We should be at Wemby with twenty, but he was
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in foul trouble, so I'll give him a break. The
Wemby Luca matchup didn't totally materialize. Luca finished with thirty
five thirteen to nine five steals, which is crazy, didn't
shoot it great, nine out of twenty seven from the field,
hit four threes, thirteen of seventeen from the free throw line.
I thought, honestly, the story for the Lakers was the
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reemergence of DeAndre eighton and I see all these nicknames
floating around on social media. I'm sure Rob's gonna have
a field day with him, but I feel like a
rejuvenated DeAndre eight and I mean remember the revenge game
against Portland and then last night twenty two to ten
four offensive rebounds, like he was pretty active inside. I
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don't know if this is you know, temporary or fool's gold,
or you know, Lebron and Luca got to him, but
I see a totally different DeAndre and than I did
in Portland, where they could not get him out of
town fast enough. Now you're probably more engaged when you're
playing for the Lakers. And it's interesting. My son plays
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volleyball or played volleyball indoor with the guy, and I
know the family. They're super friendly. Their kid goes to
a private school. And DeAndre moved in literally across the street.
And of course I'm pepperaking question what's he is he?
How is he the nicest guy? He is very laid
back and shill almost maybe too much. So he's just
a very nice guy. And I saw some toughness. I
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don't know if Rob saw the same. I saw a
little bit of toughness battling inside. I think he pinned
a couple shots against the glass. The had him got
him for two blocks. But listen, if this is the
DeAndre eight, and you're gonna get I remember the Lakers
were playing down the stretch with Jake la Ravia on
the floor and Marcus Smart. Okay, that's probably gonna change
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to Lebron and Austin Reeves when they're back. Now, you Smart,
maybe we'll get in there sometimes maybe eight and will
be out. But the big three are going to be
on the court, and for the Lakers to advance to
seven and two, they would down I think twelve in
the third quarter. I mean, this was hella impressive. Nick Smith,
if he didn't have two turnovers in the back court
against hers four. Cordifa probably would have played in the
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second half. Not his night, not his night, but nevertheless,
a good win for the Lakers. Rob no ranting against
the refs. I know you'd love this performance from the Lakers. Yeah,
the ref's ruined.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Which should have been a marquee matchup between the two
of the biggest stars in the league, and instead we
got a three hour slugfest where you know, a foul
was called every forty seconds, you know, other than that,
But let's work backwards. First off, shout out to dominating
DeAndre Aiden. That's the great nickname. You know, numbers still
being updated here in the overnight hours, but seventeen and
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eight to start the season, and he's averaging a career
and shooting and you know, right there with the career
high in blocks, like he's been everything you could have
hoped for as a Lakers fan. Like I know a
lot of people, We have a lot of friends who
work for the Suns or are fans of the Suns,
and some of them been on this podcast. You DM
me when the deal went down, Like, oh, good luck
with the DeAndre Aiden experience is going to be terrible,
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like similar to what Lakers fans said about DiAngelo Russell
going to Dallas, like wait, just wait, way, do you
see what you get? And so far it's only been
a couple of weeks, he has been so much better
than I think even his biggest defenders would have expected.
Because the numbers are fine, Like the numbers are kind
of on par with his career averages like sixteen and ten.
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It's kind of what he is. He's right now, it's
seventeen and eight, and I'm sure the numbers will go up,
you know, as he gets more comfortable and Lebron and
Aar come back. But it's the effort, like he was
making extra effort plays against the Spurs and at the
times when he was matched up with Wemby and I
know he got his stuff blocked a couple of times.
He wasn't deterred, he wasn't cowering away. He kept coming,
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kept coming, and kept coming. That's all you can really
ask for from a guy like that. As far as
what the Lakers are doing, it's really awesome to have
Luca Dodgers on your team. Like shout out to Nico
Harrison for hooking us up like that. You know, real
real ones. You know, we really respect what he's doing.
Because Luca, I think, had an okay game, Like by
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his standards, he was inefficient. As you mentioned, he looked
kind of sluggish out there. He looked tired, just to
be quite honest with you, and in a average to
slightly below average game, he finishes with what did you say,
like thirty three thirteen and nine, Like.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Like thirty five thirteen nine and five steals.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, Like, this guy is a freaking cheat code. I
saw earlier late overnight that Luka Doncic now has the
third most points by any player through the first five
games of an NBA season two hundred. The only guy
ahead of him Wilt Chamberlain twice. And Wilt Chamberlain is
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like an NBA record book cheatco Like, hey, Michael Jordan's
not on that list. Michael Jordan is fourth. Michael Jordan
wants no part of Luka Doncic, right, So that's number
two and then last, but not least when because obviously
it was the big story of the game coming in.
He's probably gonna be a big story again later here
on Thursday, because if you watch the broadcast, even though
he didn't have a great game. Richard Jefferson Tim Legler
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could not stop fawning over everything that Victor Wimunyamo was
doing when he was in there, Like, well, look at
the way he erases the whole middle of the paint
and when he's out of there, wall. As soon as
he's out of there, Lakers go to the paint, and
it's like, even though the rest of the team was
playing well, was he's in and out of foul trouble
and he's not really doing too much offensively. He was
and will continue to be the biggest storyline I think
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throughout the season, provided he stays healthy, because everybody's waiting
for the next big thing. Even though if you just
look at like statistics and resume wise, he's not even
on Luka Doncic's level, much less some of the other
great players in the league right now. Because Lucas started
off so hot, but he looked flummixed. He looked young,
which he's supposed to. But your good friend and colleague
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over there at FS one, Rachel Nichols, was at the game,
I believe in and she was there when he was
asked about you know what, he had a hard time
last night and of course against Phoenix, and Wenby said
something I thought was really revealing. He said, the game
feels fast right now. We're going to catch up to it,
of course, But personally, I haven't seen this kind of
defense from teams, and he's seeing more doubles than ever
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and they're coming much faster. And that's something that people
need to understand about Victor Wah. As great as he
is defensively, he's a prodigious, arguably already the greatest defensive
player we've ever seen offensively, and this is what separates
the top five guys in the league from everybody else
is I can run my offense through Luca, I can
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run it through Yannis, I can run it through Joker,
can run through Sga And no matter what you throw
at them, either they're gonna get a good shot. You're
gonna get a good shot for somebody else. And wem
Bin Yama at this stage in his career, is nothing
close to that. So if you're already getting the pomp
Poms rating, you're throwing down money at the betting window
for the you know, the WEMBMVP ticket, you might want
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to pump the brakes a little bit. Yeah, because it's
gonna take a while for his offense to catch up
to his defense. And that's okay, it's supposed to be
only twenty one. But just whenever it does happen, whether
it's not this year, maybe next year, the year after,
good guy, it's gonna be amazing to see.
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Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's interesting that when I had saw that from the Suns,
I was like, Ooh, Reddick's probably gonna try it. Reddick
had another good game when he had to steal minutes
with Luca out to get some rest, he went zoned
to open the fourth quarter, and it was just it
was awesome. I mean, they basically ground the Spurs offense
to a halt. They couldn't do anything because Wenby was
sitting out, and they stole a couple possessions and came
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right back. I mean, listen. I know people called him
Lebron's podcast buddy, but JJ Redick is a really sharp guy.
I mean, from what I've seen from them defensively and offensively,
he's coaching his mind off right now. I'm just so
impressed with the Lakers watching them. Remember they're down Lebron.
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They've also been missing Austin Reeves. They haven't had the
Big three yet for one game. I mean, he's coaxing
Nick Smith. He I mean, he's turned Jake Laaravia into
somebody people know and cheer for now, Jake Laavia. I mean,
it's really astonishing what the Lakers have become.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I will say other stuff actually happened in the NBA,
and you know, briefly, I do have to point out
that the Mighty Oklahoma City Thunder actually lost a basketball
game and they led by twenty in the first quarter
against Portland, who, by the way, the Lakers just smashed
without Luca and without Reeves. But that's neither hero, no there, Okay,
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s led by twenty and the unstoppable Shay gilges is
Alexander who shot ten for twenty six out here shooting
tour dates on Wednesday night, SGA thirty five and nine.
Not enough. They collapse, Okay, see absolute collapse. Outscored by
ten in the second half, seven in the fourth quarter,
and the Blazers win. What can you say when SGA
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gets outdone by the immortal Denny Avdia twenty six, ten
and nine. Listen, you're not gonna expect to dub and
I'm just happy to thunder loss because rob I can't
deal with this. Oka se nelson't even have j Dubb
and shit, wasn't playing. They're the best team in the league.
Oh my god, I'm like, god, can we pump the brakes?
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They're a bunch of tarts. They're really good. They're really good.
That's undeniable. But to me, they're not a great story.
And Robbi I was gonna We're gonna save this for
another day, but I'm just putting this out there. Guys,
I saw a lot of social media activity. Baseball has
surpassed basketball. Look at the World Series ratings. Now, Listen,
that's lowest common denominator. Shit, go grab the low hanging fruit. Okay,
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everybody loves baseball. I love baseball. Post season baseball is incredible.
The World Series was phenomenal. Game seven was otherworldly. Baseball
has not passed basketball in this country.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Stop, guys.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Okay, if you want one metric World Series ratings, you
could argue attendance, but stadium sizes are different. The number
of home games is different all that stuff. Culturally, it's
it's basketball. I'm sorry, that's just how it is in
this country. You can like it, you don't have to.
Basketball is on top in this country. Culturally. You could
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argue it's ahead of the NFL. I'm not gonna argue
that right now because we're on the time. But Rob,
the one argument that hurts the NBA is Adam Silver's
dumbass second ap or nonsense and herody and hey, let's
have a different chippy and every year, like I don't
know who, I don't know who thought him that was
a good idea. But look at the look at major
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League Baseball, Rob, The Dodgers dynasty has been great for
great great great for baseball. The Kansas City Chiefs in
the NFL has been great for football. Dynasties work, I
mean you want to go to the EPL. I mean
dynasty man Man City was on such a role. We've
everybody's had their their turn. Like dynasties love hate polarization.
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Right now, you don't hate the OKAC thunder because you
don't really care about them. And I don't know, I'm
just so, I'm I'm sorry, I'm rooting a little bit
against Okac. At this point, we need, you know, we
need the Knicks to be good. We need the Lakers
to be to be good, and the Lakers rob appear
to be pretty damn good.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, and here I thought you were to talk about
John Moran six for nineteen shooting tour dates over there
in Memphis, off the heels of its suspense, we could
do a minute it No, like your point about the
World Series is well taken. And again we waxed poetically
about the Game seven last week, right, we were all
over it. But what people need to understand and be
realistic about is Number One, you come off of Yankees
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Dodgers last year, which was the ideal World Series, even
if it ended quickly, is because you have two biggest markets,
two biggest teams, the biggest brands, and then you have
the most marketable, the best player in the league, Shoe
Aotani playing on the best team in the league. So
I'm color me shocked that the ratings were gonna be
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good regardless. And then he closes with an epic Game
seven like it's the same thing happened what ten years
ago now when you had Steph Curry and the Golden
State Warriors, the Juggernaut Warriors taking on Lebron James and
the Caps. If you get your marquee players or your
marquee franchises in a long championship series, I promise you
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you're going to have tremendous ratings. So to compare it
to Indiana versus OKC from last season is just totally disingenuous,
especially when you consider that the only competition in that
series Game seven, Tyry's Halliburn pops in Achilles, and the
games back basically over.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, absolutely brutal. All right, real quick, Wow, I'm seeing
the Warriors. So the Butler didn't play, Curry didn't play.
Will Richard, the rookie out of Florida had thirty. NBA's
crazy real quick on Ja Morant, Rob give me two
teams you can actually see him getting traded to that
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they would want to accept John Moran.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I do have two, and it sucks that they were
both reported on Wednesday, because I thought I was ahead of.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
The car this one. I didn't see them, So this
is gonna be new just to me.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
One of them is going to be a team that's
desperate to be relevant, and so I thought the Sacramento Kings,
because just look at their roster now, Russell Westbrook, Dennis
strud Zach Lavine, Demarta Rosen, like just none of it
makes sense. But there are just desperate to collect stars
or to collect names and think they're gonna sell something.
So Ja Morant I think could potentially be there and
the other one even though I wouldn't do it. Their
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point guard situation is so bad and they have a
young star who's ready to win right now. The problem
is I don't think they have enough horses to really
get over the hump. And that's Minnesota with Anthony Edwards
no cost. I would hate the fit. I would think
it's a terrible fit. But if their point guards are
Dante DiVincenzo and Mike Conley, they they point blank do
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not have a good backcourt made at all next to
Anthony Edwards. And if they believe they can win now,
they have to upgrade somewhere. I don't think they can
upgrade for Rudy Goberts because I don't know if like
who you can get and Julius Randall at this point
is Julius let people know what he is. So the
only option then becomes can you get another wing scorer,
or can you get a dynamic point guard? And I
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could totally see themselves talking into the idea of Hey,
Jo Rant three years ago four years ago was pretty
good and he's not that guy anymore. But I could
totally see them making that kind of mistake.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Both of those teams were reported actually on Wednesday by
Chris BANNICKX.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Huh not from Cham's interesting. I'll just toss the Miami
Heat into the mix, just because pat Riley's always cooking
up stuff he likes to he likes a good bargain.
I don't know that he fits Heat culture, but it
would be more about the counter He needs a culture
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the Heat one. Yeah, could they but John Morant unleashed
in South Beach is a little dicey, and I don't
know if they have the pieces, Like you're probably giving
up Wiggins, I would certainly ask for Jimei Hawk as
I don't think Miami wants to part with him. And
then what are you doing? If you're Miami You've got
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Bam Autebaio, Norman Powell and Jahn Moran? Is that? What's
that in the East? The seventh seed, maybe the eighth
or ninth. I don't know. I just think eventually we'll
get to a row. But I'm kind of out on
John Moran, you know, Like I said, I'm out on
Kyler Murrie. I don't know who would take a chance
on him. Somebody probably will, maybe your Raiders. The Saints
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put somebody who wins too many games to have a
high pick and doesn't evaluate the quarterbacks well and thinks like, oh,
Kyler can help us make the jump. You know, maybe
I just I don't see the appeal in John Moran.
He's he's handling this like a like a nineteen year old,
not like a guy who's been in the league for
six years. He's shooting thirteen percent actually, let me see, yeah,
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thirteen percent on the season.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Man, And he's totally changed his game from five years ago.
His drive percentage is down like twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And that doesn't the thing that he was good at
was attacking to the ram and now he doesn't drive
and he can't shoot. And buying the idea of John
Morant more than that, I yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
With his teammates, with his coaches. I mean, if you're
Desmond Bane, you're like, thank goodness, they got me out
of here. They seem Memphis seems like they got something
in the kid Cedric Coward, who's pretty good. He's a rookie.
So we'll see Jared Jackson junior. I guess you can
build around him, but there's not much else in Memphis.
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I don't honestly, I don't know that you're getting the
Desmond Bain package for Ja Moran.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No way, no way.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I know people are gonna be like, that's insane,
like a sorry who. People just don't know what real
headaches are, and you know, John Moran comes with a
lot of baggage.
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
All right, let's get to Thursday night Football Raiders at
the Broncos. We talked about this on Monday's podcast. Okay,
I was so excited to bet Denver. I jumped the gun.
Took him at nine and a half. Figured. Okay, the
more we get, the more info we get on Gino Smith.
You know Aidan O'Connell was back at practice last week.
(21:20):
Is there a quarterback controversy happening? Like what is going
on right now with the Raiders? They lose a brutal
overtime defeat to the Jags, and you know, everybody instantly
dug into so what happens to teams that play an
overtime game on Sunday then have to travel on the
road Thursday. And the numbers are ghastly. I saw they
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are six and twenty five against the spread dating back
many years. Listen, Overtime games are tough. That was a
excruciating loss for the Broncos, who fought hard. Then they
end up trading Jacobi Meyers this week, who I guess
you could call him unhappy with the direction of the team. Interestingly,
I'm looking at the Raiders wide receiver depth chart and
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it's not very pretty. You know, Tucker is okay, They
got the young kid at a TCU jack Bit beach.
You know, they they just don't have much that they're
throwing to. Tyler Lockett is in the slot. I mean
he was cast off from the from the Titans. Oh
but wait a minute, there's Brock Bauers, who had a
(22:26):
monster game last week. And the other thing I did
early in the week was go look into how Brock
did against Denver last year, Like how did they match
up over him. So in the first meeting he had,
he had a good showing eight for ninety seven on
twelve targets. In that game, Raiders jumped out to a
ten to nothing late and then the Broncos scored thirty
(22:47):
four straight points and the Broncos crushed him and covered.
Brock had a fifty seven yard touchdown, kind of got loose,
and then in the second meeting they did a much
better job on him for catches for thirty eight yards,
but interestingly four catches on ten targets, so they really
locked him down. Also interesting, it was another comeback victory
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as Vegas led this one thirteen ten I think at halftime,
and then Denver came back and ended up covering the spread.
So Denver has been prone to slow starts. If you
really have an appetite, you could take Raiders first quarter.
I haven't looked at it because I'm not betting it,
because I don't bet on Geno Smith in primetime. How
about this Gino Smith in primetime this year and last
(23:32):
year one in four straight up, zero to five against
the spread. When the lights get bright, Gino Smith can't
handle it. In his career now this spans Jets, Seahawks,
and Raiders. He is four and thirteen in primetime. You
know that again? What does that mean? You know there's
so much at play, It's just a data point. Hey man, primetime,
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do you know Smith? You show it up? I don't know, man.
This week, you know he let them down. He threw
the pass that was batted down at the line of
scrimmage against the Jags, and now he's got to go
to Denver. Now the good news is he doesn't have
to face Patrick Sartan. I am of the belief that
he is looking over his shoulder, and I do believe.
Again you could disagree. I think Gino Smith is on
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a bit of a short leash. Here. You just look
at this tea. It's two and six. They won the
season opener against the Patriots. Patriots are actually good since then?
Remember I backed these clowns in that primetime game against
the Chargers and they got destroyed. Gino Smith was horrendous.
Ashton Genty, are you ready for this. He had an
(24:38):
amazing game against the Bears. Remember Buck thirty eight. Here's
what Ashton genty's done against Jacksonville forty two yards rushing
against KC twenty one yards rushing. They also beat Tennessee.
He had seventy five yards rushing. Gino Smith, I just
I'm not a believer in this offense. I am a
chip Kelly guy. Maybe though forced feed Brock bart Bauer's
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fifteen targets and he eats I would have to assume
at this stage the Broncos, no, he's their only weapon,
Like maybe you got to worry about Tucker Deep. But
things that would not be surprised by. Raiders show up
in the first quarter and end the quarter with a lead,
and at some point Aidan O'Connell takes over at quarterback
for the Raiders. Denver is the side for me. I
(25:21):
told you were on them and survivor fun stat Denver
plus sixty in the fourth quarter of this season. They
are the best fourth quarter team in the league. The
problem is these stamp slow starts first three quarters. They
are a total of minus one this season. I don't
understand it. Sean Payton's a very good coach bo Nix's
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in his second year. The scripted stuff, you'd expect them
to play well, I don't have it. I don't love
the idea that the Broncos always have to come back,
and I hope this one's done pretty quickly. That's just
my guest. You know, I understand primetime you want to
see good games. I don't want to see a good game.
I mean again, they've won six in a row, and
(26:03):
they had big comebacks against the Eagles in the fourth quarter.
I think that was fourteen nothing. I know that was
seventeen to three. And then the Broncos peeled off eighteen
not fourteen, eighteen straight against Philly, and then you had,
of course the Giants comeback. That was crazy, and then
you had the Houston comeback last week. I don't like this.
Save it until the end. There is the thought that
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they're looking ahead to the Chiefs. There's a lot of
play here. I'm nervous about Denver guys, and obviously I'm
nervous about every survivor. Pick I felt great about the
Rams last week. That was like, come on, we're good.
Denver just loves to play with their food, and that
to me is a sign of caution. I don't love
nine and a half. I like it. I bet it.
Let's go Broncos all right back tomorrow, See you then,