February 14, 2019 • 21 mins
It's the Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain why they have a big problem with Scottie Pippen's history of flip-flopping on the Jordan vs. LeBron GOAT debate, and why they think Colin Kaepernick made the right move by essentially pricing himself out of the AAF by asking for $20 million. And, the guys finally settle their behind-the-scenes beef surround 'The Lakers Playoffs Bet' in the latest edition of Shop Talk.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Speaking of jealous
Rob Paul, I don't know if it's jealousy and I
don't mind. No, how about let's let's call it lunacy.
How's that this thing? Scottie Pippen. Look, he's one of
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the all time great players. He's a six time champion,
and people are right when they say, now we know
they weren't equal. Jordan was better, obviously, but people are
right when they say Jordan never won without pipping. They
were a tremendous duo. You probably have to say, the
best duo of all time. The problem that we're starting
to have with Scottie is the flip flopping. He flip flops,
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and today we'll get to the backstory of it. But
today he once again talked about Lebron James and Michael Jordan.
Here's what he said. Well, I look at Lebron. He's
not what Michael was as a player. He's not even
what Kobe Bryant was as a player. So when you
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talk about trying to compare Michael's instinct, his ability to
take over games, his ability to want to have that
last shot and demoralize you, yes, and scared a living
hell out, Yes, Lebron doesn't have that gene. So Scotty,
that's not in him. All right. That was Scottie Pipping,
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of course, on ESPN First Take. You heard our good
friend Stephen A. Smith and and Max Kellerman, his partner
on First Take, talk about that. That's from the All
Star Game in Charlotte this morning. I've known I may
not agree with everything Scott he said. But I have
no problem with that. The problem is that every other
month he changed his mind. That's what I'm saying. If
you remember he came out and said at first he
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just picked Lebron. Dude, Remember I did the interview. I
was on Mike and Mike. I'm gonna give you the backstory.
This was probably I don't know, six seven years ago.
What was that was what was that I'm trying to remember.
Was that a Bland radio show that you filled it on? Oh?
I'm sorry, go ahead, I don't even think kauh I
like that. Laugh. At that one um, I was co
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hosting Mike, and Mike and I had talked. I'd seen
Pipping in the hallways up at ESPN like a week earlier,
and we were talking off the record about Jordan and
some players, and talking to him, he gave me the
indication that he thought some players might be better than Mike.
So I said, we got him on there. I said, hey,
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I thought he might say something interesting about Lebron and Mike.
So I asked him who's better, Lebron or Michael? And
he said Lebron's probably better. Now I know. He called
a ton of heat from Mike. He I think Ron Harper,
their teammate in Chicago, gave him some flak so he
backed off. But Rob, G, what's the timeline. It's been ridiculous.
So if we go back to May of twenty seventeen
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is when it's started. He said, Lebron hasn't even surpassed
Kobe December of twenty seventeen. This is what we're talking
about Lebron. I'm talking about it was so Lebron is
probably ahead of Michael Jordan. Now a week later they
asked him about it, he says, well, no, Lebron needs
six rings to catch Jordan. So then another week after
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that he says, no, easily Michael Jordan over Lebron. Flash
forward May twenty eighteen. It's unfair to compare Lebron and
Michael Jordan. And now today Lebron's not what mj was
as a player. He's not even what Kobe was. Okay
it and next week it'll be Lebron's the greatest we've
ever seen, right, And this is the problem. I'm done
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with Scottie, all the flip flopping, stopping you play with
Michael Jordan. I don't want to hear that. And now
he's bringing Kobe into the conversation because you know why,
instead of doing all his flip flopping, just say you're
not really feeling Lebron, because that's really what it's turned into.
Because now he's introduced Kobe into the conversation and you
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got you, can't you get you? Nothing's changed, Chris. This
is why I have a problem. Nothing's changed since he's
changed his mind about this other than Lebron has lost
another NBA finals and was swept. That's that's the difference. Well,
I'll give him. Look, changing your mind based on things
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happening on the court is fine, But Scottie keeps he's
flip flopping too the anth degree and that's the problem. Now,
in his defense, I will say this, Maybe you mentioned
since he started talking about this, Lebron's lost another finals.
Maybe in watching Lebron more and more, feels like he's
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seeing less and less of a killer instinct. Right, maybe
maybe you know, I don't know what scott he's thinking,
but that's possible. He watched Lebron in the last finals
and maybe, like I know, you've jumped on him. I
thought he was a fine pass, but you and others
just didn't take the freaking shot. Why'd you pass it
to George Hill? Do you remember that game? He had fifty?
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He was playing great, that might have been his greatest game.
He's knocking out shot. I thought it was a good
pass to Hill, but a lot of him just you
world stop. Can't guard you, Chris. You know that. So
maybe in Scottie's defense, maybe he is saying something like
that makes him go, you know what, He's not what
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I thought he was, you know, so maybe he's thinking
maybe that. But here's my thing, but you play with Jordan.
You know what that guy had, So you're saying he
should have never, should have never ahead, Yes, that's my
thing is like, I get where you might be liking
Lebron a little bit less, but you played, You had
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a front row seat. You were watching Michael like we did.
I'm telling you, I was covering the NBA during that time, Chris.
I was there. I wasn't watching on TV, I wasn't
watching YouTube highlights or whatever. I was at those games.
That's when I was an NBA beat writer. And I'm
gonna tell you there was no mistaken that that guy
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was the greatest guy I'd ever seen. I'm talking about.
So I'm just surprised that Scotti going through it all,
seeing what Jordan was able to do, how he denied
all these other great players a chance to win during
that how he helped Scotty, who wasn't some highly recruited
college guy who went to some big school and won
an NCAA tournament and none of that, and helped him
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to develop. Remember Scottie Pippen at the Palace in Detroit
with an ice pack on his head at a game seven.
When people talk about, well, how come Jordan couldn't beat
the Pistons, Scottie Pippen had an ice pack on his
head Game seven against the Pistons. He didn't play one minute.
He didn't play. And that's not to mention the year
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Jordan first return when Scotty wouldn't When Nate phil Jackson
called the last place Scotty was mad, didn't go in
the game, wouldn't go in the game, and coo coach
in the game winning three pointer, he brought up something interesting.
And you and I have observed this and talking to
former players that played against either, well, certainly played against
both Lebron and Kobe. Now, most pundits, an expert or
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they say that Lebron is better than Kobe. I I
say that, I think you say that too. But most
ex players we've talked to take Kobe over Lebron. And
the thing they seemed to point to is that killer instinct.
Let's throw that out to the callers. Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine hit us up. What do you
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think I mean, We've been talking Jordan Lebron for years,
but that's the time to maybe talk Kobe Lebron. See
the thing with Kobe And the only little nugget I'll
say is and it's no knock on. He's won five
championships three year those were with Shock and Shack was
the most dominant player, right, and there's no But you're right,
it shouldn't be a knock knock But I'm just saying
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it's it's it was, Yeah, they weren't. People didn't think
he led in which he didn't. Although when Shaq got
hurt against the Indiana, Oh he played. Don't don't get
me wrong, but I'm saying I get what you're saying.
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iHeart Radio app. The Alliance of American Football. It's the
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new football league that debuted this past weekend. Watch started.
I did watch something I had. I had a jones
for some football. I love football, and I really didn't
watch a minute, but you told me it was okay,
it was all right, It was all right. I watched, uh,
you know, the basketball games on the main TV, but
had the football game on my computer and was checking
a little bit of it out and it tied the
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Houston Rockets Oklahoma City, which is no surprise, Chris, only
from that, there's a curiosity factor with something new, right,
But it's a pretty good start, I know what I'm saying.
Will they be able to sustain it? That's the question
you We've already talked about. XFL had unbelievable ready ratings
that first gap and then fell off. Obviously didn't last
so but anyway, Bill Polian longtime GM in the NFL,
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most notably with the Indian Acts. He's still with ESPN. No,
I'm not sure. No, I don't think I don't think so.
But he's the co founder of the Alliance of American
Football and he said he told the Athletic that they
reached out to Colin Kaepernick and also Tim Tebow about
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playing in the league, and the story is that Tebow
turned him down because he wants to chase baseball, his baseball.
He feels like it feels like he has a chance.
Then they spring training, right, the Mets invited him, and
Colin Kaepernick turned it down because in a league where
the average salary for the players is seventy five thousand dollars,
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Kylin Kaepernick won it twenty million. Can I tell you this, Chris,
I don't blame Colin Kaepernick one bit for asking for
twenty million. First of all, he's an NFL quarterback who
went to the Super Bowl right, put up some decent numbers,
had had a nice career in the NFL. He's going,
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this is a minor league football. What also rans has
beens never was is okay, So he's taking a step
down and he knows the value of his name attached.
Don't tell me EBS wouldn't make a boatload of money
and have a high rating for Colin Kaepernick's first game
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in that league. That could only help that league and
bring it notoriety, more money, more attention, sell tickets. How
about all the people are turned off by the NFL
over the Kaepernick thing. Might say, I'm gonna check this out.
I'm gonna give this a chance. I'm gonna buy me
a Colin Kaepernick jersey for whatever team he plays on,
the Orlando or San Antonio or whatever told me that
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wouldn't be a hot selling jersey Chris, it would, it would,
and some people would be against it too. A lot
of people for it and a lot of people against it.
From when you're in a new, upstart league, you need
something to get people worked up. And even Karen, everybody
would be watching what Wait a minute, let me see.
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Everybody would be I told you he can't play. There'd
be people who are hoping that he would be a
flaw and they would watch writers would I'm with you,
I'm totally with you. I'm glad he understands his value.
My only thing, I don't know the financial situation of
the league. I don't know if it's even feasible right
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now that they could give one player twenty million dollars.
So what I would say is caperni and this may
have got any more than twenty million. Again, I don't
know what their situation is, but I would have said,
maybe you get you know, several million up front, but
then it's a percentage, you know, a percentage of the gate,
a percentage of the league revenue that they draw off
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you you know, whatever you know, and leave that to lawyers,
whether it's twenty five percent whatever. But make sure you're
not used but right, make sure you're not taking advantage.
And that's the whole and you get your money's worth.
So I respect him for knowing his value. And I
look at it from this way when you say, well,
I would he ask for twenty million, that's ridiculous or whatever.
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But this league is attached to CBS television. They gave up.
They got get six billion dollars deal to NA for
March Madness Rob GC. I don't know if what their
TV deal is, but that's where you get your money.
That's that's where you swear the NBA quickly the NBA,
remember when salary skyrocketed a few years ago because ESPN
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up there there there, they paid all more money, tripled
their money. They one was trying to get the NBA
and they got involved in the bidding and ESPN was
paying between U five hundred million and they went up
to one point four billion nights. Right, And that literally
is related. You saw we saw friends of ours, former
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colleagues get laid off. That was related to the extra
money they were paying the NBA. Al And so you're right,
they got some type of deal, They made some type
of amount of money already and maybe Caps lawyer just
looked into that, I don't know, to look at what
the deal was, and maybe that guided his decision to
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make it twenty million verses ten or thirty or whatever.
But I'm with you in principle. Again, I don't know
all the financial parameters, but I like the fact it's
non disclosed how much they got. But they got money, Yeah,
they got and uh, it would be interesting. I'm I'm
curious for people. Would you have checked it out? Or
how big of an interest would you have had to
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see Colin Kaepernick? And would you be watching because you're
hoping this guy can could continue to play and and
maybe get back in the NFL, or would you watch
because you would hope it was a train wreck? Because
I think, yeah, call up, you know we we we
like Kaepernick. I respect what he's doing. If you don't,
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that's fine, call up say your opinion. We give we
give everybody the chance to speak. But one thing I
don't want to here. I mean, callers can say it
if they want, but I'll just say I'll push back
on it. Don't give me the See he doesn't want
to play football. No, that's not that's not. This is
an NFL quality player. This is a starter in the NFL.
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Not he's not. I'm not saying either an all pro,
but he is a starter or at the very least
just because of rust, a backup in the INN. And
this is a minor league where they make seventy five grand.
This probably people who work on the UH San Francisco
forty nine is staff who makes seventy five grand? Do
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you know what I mean? No, question will make seventy
five grands. So don't look at it and go see
he doesn't want to really want to play. That's why
he didn't take the money. No, because most top level
quality athletes would not play in the minor league. No,
and not if you're able to play at the higher
level and on the football field, you know he wouldn't.
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What would he have to game? I do think if
he went out there and lit it up, you would
get a lot of people saying, see, he should be
in the NFL, and there would be some some cry
for him to get a shot. So I guess that's
something he gains. But on the other hand, what if
he's just struggled out of rust or just you know,
we've seen You've seen it in baseball. It happens all
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the time. Major leaguers go down to Triple A for
you know, whatever reason has struggled. Or sometimes a guy
will come up from Triple A or Double A and
light up MLB for a couple of weeks and you're like, wow,
he's playing better than MLB than he did in the minors.
So just out of rust or the teammates or not
having chemistry, he could potentially look bad and then people
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would go against See. I just got a text from
a buddy of mind who's following this story, and this
is where I think Chris. Other people would think, like Ken,
my buddy, Kenn, he doesn't want to play, so he's
not exposed as an average player. See, people believe buy
into he didn't. He'd be asked for such an astronomical
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amount of money so that they wouldn't take him. He
wouldn't show that he can't play. That's why would he
be trying to get back in the NFL if he
didn't want to be exposed. I mean, I get it,
it's a minor league. What I'm saying this is, Carmelo,
let me throw this out. I agree with you. But
why doesn't Carmelo Anthony go playing the G League? Right?
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He won't play on the show, everybody, you can still play? No, no,
he's better than that. And a guy like Carmelo Anthony
I assume has enough pride where it's NBA or bust. Now,
maybe eventually he'll go Overseas if he really wants to
keep playing. But playing in the G league, no, no, no,
And so I don't. I don't think this says Kaepernick
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doesn't want to play now. He does have the cushion
good for him where n he gave him the thirty
million dollars deal, so he doesn't have to do anything
he wants. I say this too, I do think that
if Kaepernick played in this AAF, it could diminish his
I guess, legacy and as far as this harder for
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his cause. Now, I'm not saying he shouldn't play in
the NFL. There are some people that think he shouldn't
play period because now his legacy is setting out would
damage it. I think it'd be better if he went
to the NFL. He could do more with that platform.
I wouldn't be mad at him. I wouldn't be mad
at him from this standpoint. No, but that he's a
football player. That that's what he is talking about in
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the NFL or the air. I don't know. If they
offered him twenty million dollars, I wouldn't be mad at No,
I wouldn't be mad if he pay af I really wouldn't. Now,
I wouldn't either. I would like to see him, I
mean it. You know he could do a lot. I
know he's having the camps for the kids and teaching
them about their rights, and he's put he's put up
a lot of his own money in the community. Be
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talk to our couple of Fox Sports rad who does
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every single week where we take a segment and talk
about something outside of the world of sports. Now, we
were set up to do something for Valentine's and the
theme of the holiday, but things have gotten heated off
the air here at the show and it's because Chris
and Robert having issues related to their Lakers and Lebron
in the playoffs bet. And we've made this bet. You
guys air it out on the radio once and for all.
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Here's the deal. I'm saying the Los Angeles Lakers will
make the playoffs obviously because of Lebron James's presence. We
I challenge Rod to bet he wouldn't bet me, and
then the next day on National TV on Undisputed, he
accepted the bet. Later on in the show, maybe an
hour later, Jason McIntyre brought up, you know, Lebron may
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be getting hurt, and I just reminded rob I said, look,
you know this bet is contingent on Lebron being healthy,
and he's like, no, no, it's not. And I said,
there is no person on earth who would bet the
Lakers are going to make the playoffs if Lebron James
is hurt. But Chris, it was understood, understood, was understood
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that this is continguent. I'm not saying you have to
play every single day from you out, but if he
gets hurt and misses ten games, the bets all he
has to say that. He has to say that up
from it was understood. It wasn't if I say stopping,
you have to say Rob, stop it? Or do I
just have to say stop it it's understood. I mean,
I want to know who else is with me? Ahead, Rob,
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g tell me with Rob, Rob, because I say you're husky.
You know what's funny is usually I go with Christallness.
But since you know Chris don't tip, I'm gonna Rob
on this one. Nathan put put Nathan's hate Rob. Absolutely no,
we want Martin's with me. I actually it's funny. Normally
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one would presume Lebron would be there, but unless it
was specified, I think I think Rob's record understood Martin.
I will say, Chris, you should have said it, just
because Rob Parker is the type of guy and this
understood by Ron Parkers the type of guy that will
celebrate a backdoor cover, right,
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Speaking of jealous
Rob Paul, I don't know if it's jealousy and I
don't mind. No, how about let's let's call it lunacy.
How's that this thing? Scottie Pippen. Look, he's one of
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the all time great players. He's a six time champion,
and people are right when they say, now we know
they weren't equal. Jordan was better, obviously, but people are
right when they say Jordan never won without pipping. They
were a tremendous duo. You probably have to say, the
best duo of all time. The problem that we're starting
to have with Scottie is the flip flopping. He flip flops,
(01:07):
and today we'll get to the backstory of it. But
today he once again talked about Lebron James and Michael Jordan.
Here's what he said. Well, I look at Lebron. He's
not what Michael was as a player. He's not even
what Kobe Bryant was as a player. So when you
(01:27):
talk about trying to compare Michael's instinct, his ability to
take over games, his ability to want to have that
last shot and demoralize you, yes, and scared a living
hell out, Yes, Lebron doesn't have that gene. So Scotty,
that's not in him. All right. That was Scottie Pipping,
(01:48):
of course, on ESPN First Take. You heard our good
friend Stephen A. Smith and and Max Kellerman, his partner
on First Take, talk about that. That's from the All
Star Game in Charlotte this morning. I've known I may
not agree with everything Scott he said. But I have
no problem with that. The problem is that every other
month he changed his mind. That's what I'm saying. If
you remember he came out and said at first he
(02:09):
just picked Lebron. Dude, Remember I did the interview. I
was on Mike and Mike. I'm gonna give you the backstory.
This was probably I don't know, six seven years ago.
What was that was what was that I'm trying to remember.
Was that a Bland radio show that you filled it on? Oh?
I'm sorry, go ahead, I don't even think kauh I
like that. Laugh. At that one um, I was co
(02:30):
hosting Mike, and Mike and I had talked. I'd seen
Pipping in the hallways up at ESPN like a week earlier,
and we were talking off the record about Jordan and
some players, and talking to him, he gave me the
indication that he thought some players might be better than Mike.
So I said, we got him on there. I said, hey,
(02:52):
I thought he might say something interesting about Lebron and Mike.
So I asked him who's better, Lebron or Michael? And
he said Lebron's probably better. Now I know. He called
a ton of heat from Mike. He I think Ron Harper,
their teammate in Chicago, gave him some flak so he
backed off. But Rob, G, what's the timeline. It's been ridiculous.
So if we go back to May of twenty seventeen
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is when it's started. He said, Lebron hasn't even surpassed
Kobe December of twenty seventeen. This is what we're talking
about Lebron. I'm talking about it was so Lebron is
probably ahead of Michael Jordan. Now a week later they
asked him about it, he says, well, no, Lebron needs
six rings to catch Jordan. So then another week after
(03:36):
that he says, no, easily Michael Jordan over Lebron. Flash
forward May twenty eighteen. It's unfair to compare Lebron and
Michael Jordan. And now today Lebron's not what mj was
as a player. He's not even what Kobe was. Okay
it and next week it'll be Lebron's the greatest we've
ever seen, right, And this is the problem. I'm done
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with Scottie, all the flip flopping, stopping you play with
Michael Jordan. I don't want to hear that. And now
he's bringing Kobe into the conversation because you know why,
instead of doing all his flip flopping, just say you're
not really feeling Lebron, because that's really what it's turned into.
Because now he's introduced Kobe into the conversation and you
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got you, can't you get you? Nothing's changed, Chris. This
is why I have a problem. Nothing's changed since he's
changed his mind about this other than Lebron has lost
another NBA finals and was swept. That's that's the difference. Well,
I'll give him. Look, changing your mind based on things
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happening on the court is fine, But Scottie keeps he's
flip flopping too the anth degree and that's the problem. Now,
in his defense, I will say this, Maybe you mentioned
since he started talking about this, Lebron's lost another finals.
Maybe in watching Lebron more and more, feels like he's
(05:04):
seeing less and less of a killer instinct. Right, maybe
maybe you know, I don't know what scott he's thinking,
but that's possible. He watched Lebron in the last finals
and maybe, like I know, you've jumped on him. I
thought he was a fine pass, but you and others
just didn't take the freaking shot. Why'd you pass it
to George Hill? Do you remember that game? He had fifty?
(05:26):
He was playing great, that might have been his greatest game.
He's knocking out shot. I thought it was a good
pass to Hill, but a lot of him just you
world stop. Can't guard you, Chris. You know that. So
maybe in Scottie's defense, maybe he is saying something like
that makes him go, you know what, He's not what
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I thought he was, you know, so maybe he's thinking
maybe that. But here's my thing, but you play with Jordan.
You know what that guy had, So you're saying he
should have never, should have never ahead, Yes, that's my
thing is like, I get where you might be liking
Lebron a little bit less, but you played, You had
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a front row seat. You were watching Michael like we did.
I'm telling you, I was covering the NBA during that time, Chris.
I was there. I wasn't watching on TV, I wasn't
watching YouTube highlights or whatever. I was at those games.
That's when I was an NBA beat writer. And I'm
gonna tell you there was no mistaken that that guy
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was the greatest guy I'd ever seen. I'm talking about.
So I'm just surprised that Scotti going through it all,
seeing what Jordan was able to do, how he denied
all these other great players a chance to win during
that how he helped Scotty, who wasn't some highly recruited
college guy who went to some big school and won
an NCAA tournament and none of that, and helped him
(06:59):
to develop. Remember Scottie Pippen at the Palace in Detroit
with an ice pack on his head at a game seven.
When people talk about, well, how come Jordan couldn't beat
the Pistons, Scottie Pippen had an ice pack on his
head Game seven against the Pistons. He didn't play one minute.
He didn't play. And that's not to mention the year
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Jordan first return when Scotty wouldn't When Nate phil Jackson
called the last place Scotty was mad, didn't go in
the game, wouldn't go in the game, and coo coach
in the game winning three pointer, he brought up something interesting.
And you and I have observed this and talking to
former players that played against either, well, certainly played against
both Lebron and Kobe. Now, most pundits, an expert or
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they say that Lebron is better than Kobe. I I
say that, I think you say that too. But most
ex players we've talked to take Kobe over Lebron. And
the thing they seemed to point to is that killer instinct.
Let's throw that out to the callers. Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine hit us up. What do you
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think I mean, We've been talking Jordan Lebron for years,
but that's the time to maybe talk Kobe Lebron. See
the thing with Kobe And the only little nugget I'll
say is and it's no knock on. He's won five
championships three year those were with Shock and Shack was
the most dominant player, right, and there's no But you're right,
it shouldn't be a knock knock But I'm just saying
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it's it's it was, Yeah, they weren't. People didn't think
he led in which he didn't. Although when Shaq got
hurt against the Indiana, Oh he played. Don't don't get
me wrong, but I'm saying I get what you're saying.
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new football league that debuted this past weekend. Watch started.
I did watch something I had. I had a jones
for some football. I love football, and I really didn't
watch a minute, but you told me it was okay,
it was all right, It was all right. I watched, uh,
you know, the basketball games on the main TV, but
had the football game on my computer and was checking
a little bit of it out and it tied the
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Houston Rockets Oklahoma City, which is no surprise, Chris, only
from that, there's a curiosity factor with something new, right,
But it's a pretty good start, I know what I'm saying.
Will they be able to sustain it? That's the question
you We've already talked about. XFL had unbelievable ready ratings
that first gap and then fell off. Obviously didn't last
so but anyway, Bill Polian longtime GM in the NFL,
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most notably with the Indian Acts. He's still with ESPN. No,
I'm not sure. No, I don't think I don't think so.
But he's the co founder of the Alliance of American
Football and he said he told the Athletic that they
reached out to Colin Kaepernick and also Tim Tebow about
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playing in the league, and the story is that Tebow
turned him down because he wants to chase baseball, his baseball.
He feels like it feels like he has a chance.
Then they spring training, right, the Mets invited him, and
Colin Kaepernick turned it down because in a league where
the average salary for the players is seventy five thousand dollars,
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Kylin Kaepernick won it twenty million. Can I tell you this, Chris,
I don't blame Colin Kaepernick one bit for asking for
twenty million. First of all, he's an NFL quarterback who
went to the Super Bowl right, put up some decent numbers,
had had a nice career in the NFL. He's going,
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this is a minor league football. What also rans has
beens never was is okay, So he's taking a step
down and he knows the value of his name attached.
Don't tell me EBS wouldn't make a boatload of money
and have a high rating for Colin Kaepernick's first game
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in that league. That could only help that league and
bring it notoriety, more money, more attention, sell tickets. How
about all the people are turned off by the NFL
over the Kaepernick thing. Might say, I'm gonna check this out.
I'm gonna give this a chance. I'm gonna buy me
a Colin Kaepernick jersey for whatever team he plays on,
the Orlando or San Antonio or whatever told me that
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wouldn't be a hot selling jersey Chris, it would, it would,
and some people would be against it too. A lot
of people for it and a lot of people against it.
From when you're in a new, upstart league, you need
something to get people worked up. And even Karen, everybody
would be watching what Wait a minute, let me see.
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Everybody would be I told you he can't play. There'd
be people who are hoping that he would be a
flaw and they would watch writers would I'm with you,
I'm totally with you. I'm glad he understands his value.
My only thing, I don't know the financial situation of
the league. I don't know if it's even feasible right
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now that they could give one player twenty million dollars.
So what I would say is caperni and this may
have got any more than twenty million. Again, I don't
know what their situation is, but I would have said,
maybe you get you know, several million up front, but
then it's a percentage, you know, a percentage of the gate,
a percentage of the league revenue that they draw off
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you you know, whatever you know, and leave that to lawyers,
whether it's twenty five percent whatever. But make sure you're
not used but right, make sure you're not taking advantage.
And that's the whole and you get your money's worth.
So I respect him for knowing his value. And I
look at it from this way when you say, well,
I would he ask for twenty million, that's ridiculous or whatever.
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But this league is attached to CBS television. They gave up.
They got get six billion dollars deal to NA for
March Madness Rob GC. I don't know if what their
TV deal is, but that's where you get your money.
That's that's where you swear the NBA quickly the NBA,
remember when salary skyrocketed a few years ago because ESPN
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up there there there, they paid all more money, tripled
their money. They one was trying to get the NBA
and they got involved in the bidding and ESPN was
paying between U five hundred million and they went up
to one point four billion nights. Right, And that literally
is related. You saw we saw friends of ours, former
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colleagues get laid off. That was related to the extra
money they were paying the NBA. Al And so you're right,
they got some type of deal, They made some type
of amount of money already and maybe Caps lawyer just
looked into that, I don't know, to look at what
the deal was, and maybe that guided his decision to
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make it twenty million verses ten or thirty or whatever.
But I'm with you in principle. Again, I don't know
all the financial parameters, but I like the fact it's
non disclosed how much they got. But they got money, Yeah,
they got and uh, it would be interesting. I'm I'm
curious for people. Would you have checked it out? Or
how big of an interest would you have had to
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see Colin Kaepernick? And would you be watching because you're
hoping this guy can could continue to play and and
maybe get back in the NFL, or would you watch
because you would hope it was a train wreck? Because
I think, yeah, call up, you know we we we
like Kaepernick. I respect what he's doing. If you don't,
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that's fine, call up say your opinion. We give we
give everybody the chance to speak. But one thing I
don't want to here. I mean, callers can say it
if they want, but I'll just say I'll push back
on it. Don't give me the See he doesn't want
to play football. No, that's not that's not. This is
an NFL quality player. This is a starter in the NFL.
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Not he's not. I'm not saying either an all pro,
but he is a starter or at the very least
just because of rust, a backup in the INN. And
this is a minor league where they make seventy five grand.
This probably people who work on the UH San Francisco
forty nine is staff who makes seventy five grand? Do
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you know what I mean? No, question will make seventy
five grands. So don't look at it and go see
he doesn't want to really want to play. That's why
he didn't take the money. No, because most top level
quality athletes would not play in the minor league. No,
and not if you're able to play at the higher
level and on the football field, you know he wouldn't.
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What would he have to game? I do think if
he went out there and lit it up, you would
get a lot of people saying, see, he should be
in the NFL, and there would be some some cry
for him to get a shot. So I guess that's
something he gains. But on the other hand, what if
he's just struggled out of rust or just you know,
we've seen You've seen it in baseball. It happens all
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the time. Major leaguers go down to Triple A for
you know, whatever reason has struggled. Or sometimes a guy
will come up from Triple A or Double A and
light up MLB for a couple of weeks and you're like, wow,
he's playing better than MLB than he did in the minors.
So just out of rust or the teammates or not
having chemistry, he could potentially look bad and then people
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would go against See. I just got a text from
a buddy of mind who's following this story, and this
is where I think Chris. Other people would think, like Ken,
my buddy, Kenn, he doesn't want to play, so he's
not exposed as an average player. See, people believe buy
into he didn't. He'd be asked for such an astronomical
(16:57):
amount of money so that they wouldn't take him. He
wouldn't show that he can't play. That's why would he
be trying to get back in the NFL if he
didn't want to be exposed. I mean, I get it,
it's a minor league. What I'm saying this is, Carmelo,
let me throw this out. I agree with you. But
why doesn't Carmelo Anthony go playing the G League? Right?
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He won't play on the show, everybody, you can still play? No, no,
he's better than that. And a guy like Carmelo Anthony
I assume has enough pride where it's NBA or bust. Now,
maybe eventually he'll go Overseas if he really wants to
keep playing. But playing in the G league, no, no, no,
And so I don't. I don't think this says Kaepernick
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doesn't want to play now. He does have the cushion
good for him where n he gave him the thirty
million dollars deal, so he doesn't have to do anything
he wants. I say this too, I do think that
if Kaepernick played in this AAF, it could diminish his
I guess, legacy and as far as this harder for
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his cause. Now, I'm not saying he shouldn't play in
the NFL. There are some people that think he shouldn't
play period because now his legacy is setting out would
damage it. I think it'd be better if he went
to the NFL. He could do more with that platform.
I wouldn't be mad at him. I wouldn't be mad
at him from this standpoint. No, but that he's a
football player. That that's what he is talking about in
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the NFL or the air. I don't know. If they
offered him twenty million dollars, I wouldn't be mad at No,
I wouldn't be mad if he pay af I really wouldn't. Now,
I wouldn't either. I would like to see him, I
mean it. You know he could do a lot. I
know he's having the camps for the kids and teaching
them about their rights, and he's put he's put up
a lot of his own money in the community. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific. Nobody ain't stilling the ball shop, you
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every single week where we take a segment and talk
about something outside of the world of sports. Now, we
were set up to do something for Valentine's and the
theme of the holiday, but things have gotten heated off
the air here at the show and it's because Chris
and Robert having issues related to their Lakers and Lebron
in the playoffs bet. And we've made this bet. You
guys air it out on the radio once and for all.
(19:26):
Here's the deal. I'm saying the Los Angeles Lakers will
make the playoffs obviously because of Lebron James's presence. We
I challenge Rod to bet he wouldn't bet me, and
then the next day on National TV on Undisputed, he
accepted the bet. Later on in the show, maybe an
hour later, Jason McIntyre brought up, you know, Lebron may
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be getting hurt, and I just reminded rob I said, look,
you know this bet is contingent on Lebron being healthy,
and he's like, no, no, it's not. And I said,
there is no person on earth who would bet the
Lakers are going to make the playoffs if Lebron James
is hurt. But Chris, it was understood, understood, was understood
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that this is continguent. I'm not saying you have to
play every single day from you out, but if he
gets hurt and misses ten games, the bets all he
has to say that. He has to say that up
from it was understood. It wasn't if I say stopping,
you have to say Rob, stop it? Or do I
just have to say stop it it's understood. I mean,
I want to know who else is with me? Ahead, Rob,
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g tell me with Rob, Rob, because I say you're husky.
You know what's funny is usually I go with Christallness.
But since you know Chris don't tip, I'm gonna Rob
on this one. Nathan put put Nathan's hate Rob. Absolutely no,
we want Martin's with me. I actually it's funny. Normally
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one would presume Lebron would be there, but unless it
was specified, I think I think Rob's record understood Martin.
I will say, Chris, you should have said it, just
because Rob Parker is the type of guy and this
understood by Ron Parkers the type of guy that will
celebrate a backdoor cover, right,
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