March 15, 2019 • 29 mins
It's the best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! On today's show, the guys discuss the breaking news of the child abuse case involving Chiefs' WR Tyreek Hill. With Major League Baseball on the verge of rule changes in 2020 Chris and Rob debate whether or not they are good for the game. MGM Resorts VP of Race and Sports Jay Rood joins the show to talk about how the latest football and basketball headlines have affected betting lines in Vegas.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the Odd
Cup Off with Chris Brusso and Rod Harker. Tyreek Hill,
the Fantastic Kansas City Chiefs Wide Receiver is under investigation
for alleged battery. Here's the details, Rob. All we know
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is what we're reading. It's it's early, but the Kansas
City Chiefs have confirmed that he's under investigation for child
abuse and he and his fiance, Crystal Spinal said but
Crystal Espinal fiance is also listed as others involved. Wow
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so and it appears that the story reports that his
three their three year old son has a broken arm,
and so he's being investigated. He and his fiance. You
know what usually or what might be child abuse because
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their son has a broken you know what usually happens
when you bring a kid into like the doctor or
emergency room with a broken arm or something they automatically
investigate or something like that. That's probably what happened. They
had to bring him in and then they go away
a minute. What happened here? And if the doctor doesn't,
has that been reported? I'm just saying that's normally, that's
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normally what happens. I think they bring they bring you in,
you know what I mean, just in case when kids
come in and they're injured. You want to know what happened.
And of course Tyreek Hill has a history of domestic violence,
right because when she was pregnant with this little bit
college right, I think that time he punched her. This
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was in twenty fourteen, eight weeks pregnant and he punched her.
So I guess is it No, it was, but he
punched her in the stomach and choked her. So you know,
then they reconciled and the charges were the conviction was dismissed,
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and uh it was spunged after he completed his probation requirements. Now,
of course, the Kansas City Chiefs earlier this year this
season had the incident with Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt we've
seen on video while in the hotel in Cleveland, and
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they as soon as they got the details, they cut him.
And don't forget they did give him the benefit of
the doubt where he had because they had come out
before they didn't nobody had seen the video exactly, and
he asked They asked him what had happened. They took
him at his word right and said okay, And then
when the video came out there immediately released him because
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it was it was he had lied from what had happened. Yeah,
so this is not a good situation obviously for the
Kansas City chiefs. If this proves to be true, I'm
sure it'll be the same fate for Hill. They will
cut him immediately, I would imagine, because this would be
another situation even though they drafted him, do you know
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what I mean? Like this and they drafted Hunt, right,
That's what I'm saying. But but like they gave him
a chance when they drafted him. That was your second chance, right.
And now if this is, if this comes out in
the warsh that he was involved and it's just a
sad story, I just realized, I really I'm at loss.
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I'm a different I don't I just couldn't imagine doing it.
I don't know, I know this discipline. I was disciplined
as a kid. Everybody was disciplined as a kid, you
know what I mean. And I don't know what happened,
so it's hard for me to talk about it. There's
nothing that if if this is true, there's nothing that
justifies breaking the three year olds on, not at all. Nothing.
And like you, I was disciplined. I was spanked whipped
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with a belt as a kid, and uh, I believe
in spanking, but not abuse. The difference I never got,
you know, nothing excessive, no broken bones, no black eyes, nothing.
I no. I've never punched, and I spanked them when
they were little, and that pretty much taught them the lesson.
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I never really would have never had an issue after
that because most kids will learn once if you do
something wrong. This was gonna happen. I was sent out
to the yard to go get the switch. You know that.
That's yeah, yeah, that's a Southern thing. Isn't a Southern thing?
A black thing? Maybe a black Southern we I didn't
get the switch, but you know what I'm meaning there,
But it was like, go get a switch, and the
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better not be a little one, because then I'll go
out and pick up but they make you go pick
up a good Yeah, you have to pick out one
that's not too small. It was cool, like you have
to go pick out your the thing that's gonna get
you whacked up. Now, I would be crying before I
even got spank by. I knew when it was coming, right,
And I had a brother, and most of my spankers
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were for fighting with my brothers. Right, And we told
you that some of us is getting spanked first, and
whichever one's getting spanked, the other one is sitting there
watching and crying because they know that that was coming.
But but this is this is uh terrible, and you know,
you hate to even kind of talk about football in
a situation like this, But this is a team that's
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if this is true, it's slowly imploding because of it.
It's own off the field behavior. Right like Kareem Hunt
when he suspended eight games. We just found that out today.
And if you do tack on the last five of
last year, who knows plus the does that include? I
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think it was five games so in the regular season
and then and then he missed a couple on the playoffs.
Two in the playoffs, so right there, that's seven plus
ten that's fifteen that's a whole football season. I'm in
almost fifteen game and uh, who knows. If he was
on the team, they might have beaten the Patriots, they
might have been the Super Bowl. There's all kinds of
other staffs Bowl. But the Chiefs didn't look at that.
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I give them credit that they gave him a chance.
They did right his word and it wasn't true. Yeah, no,
I give him credit. I didn't even think they do.
I thought they'd suspend him immediately for the rest of
the season. That's what I was calling for. But they
went further and cut him in and I think I
think only because they put their reputation out when they
gave him the second chance, and they trusted him, right,
they trusted him. Hey, tell us what's going on, and
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we're paying you all this money. You're gonna lie to
our faces. But Cleveland, when Kareem Hunt gets back, they're
going to be in the fit from that. And remember,
he's gonna miss all eight games. He's not appealing. There's
no appeal for he's doing the right thing. I agree,
even if that's whatever. But he accepted this, he accepted it,
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and he's gonna do that. And I think eight games
is fair. I think that they got it right most
of the time. I have a problem with Goodell and
the people who dole out suspensions because it's all over
the map, you know what I mean, like and and
I never really feel that great about some of them.
And then Goodell has been heavy handed. Didn't have to
come back and take some games off. You remember in
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New Orleans with bounty gate. You know they threw the
book at who the coach. No, well, he got out
for a year. But the other guy, um, the linebacker.
I just right, was it a vilma? And then they
it was originally like twelve games or something, and then
they cut it down. Yeah, but I'm just saying it
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was like a big cut, like from twelve to six
or twelve day. And it's just like you can't be
that off. That's that's big time off. It's not like
normally that might take a game or two off and
I get it right right, But in this case, I
think the NFL got it right. But it's just it's
an ongoing story. It's an ongoing tire hill. If this
is true, he's got real problems. Seriously, I don't mean
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legal problems. I mean, he's got some issues within himself.
When you're punching a pregnant woman in the style I
can't even fathom doing that. And then on top of that, you,
if this is true, break a three year old's arm
like he got some issues man, and he this is
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going If this is true, this is going to be
I hate to compare, but quote unquote worse than Kareem Hunt,
just because it's a second time to really grotesque incidents,
you know, and he's going to suffer badly. So, like
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I said, the Kansas City Chiefs could be imploding from within.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeart Radio app. Rob We're gonna talk about something next
that is very near and dear and close to your heart.
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Major League Baseball starts up and went two weeks. Yes,
I can't wait. Unbelievable Like opening day movement Dodger Stadium
is two weeks from yesterday around the league, and it's
gonna be exciting, all right. But some new rules were
announced yesterday by Major League Baseball and the Players Association,
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and you know, there's too many to go through here,
but there's one that really stuck out to most people,
including you and I, yes, and that is that this
is a proposal for twenty twenty, so not this season,
but next season, that every pitcher that enters the game
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has to pitch to at least three batters unless he
ends in any Now, I don't know if you saw this.
If it gets hurt, you know, get hurt. But I
don't know if you saw the latest news today. This
is going to be tried out in the minor leagues
this year, and if it doesn't work, obviously you you may,
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you know, scrap it. But it's going to be tried
out in the minors this year and then if it works,
if they like it, it'll be in the major leagues
in twenty twenty. You don't like it, no, I really don't.
And I get why. I understand. It's this whole time thing, right,
the games are taking too long. People want it to
move along. I get all that, but then you really
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take away like specialty guys who might be good just
against lefties. So I need him to come in and
pitch to a left handed batter in a big in
a tight spot. Right, he's great. Lefty's kid hit another
lefty if that's your specialty, and so now he has
to pitch to that guy. And then two more guys,
regardless if they're batting lefty or righty right, and maybe
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gets crushed by righty's. I get where they're trying to.
So you've seen the games. Chris Ye manager comes out,
lefty up, bringing the lefty. Next guy comes up, he's righty,
bringing the right Next guy comes up, he's a lefty,
bringing another lefty. You know. And then you're watching an
inning and all of a sudden, five guys pitched up, yes,
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six batters right. And that is what slows down, because
you gotta remember, you gotta go out to the mound,
walk out to the mound, talk to him up in
the bullpen. He comes out. Then there's another commercial break
because you gotta go and come make another change. After that,
he's got a warm up, and they all got a
warm up, but they all gotta come all away from
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the bullpen. So I get it. Ridiculous. Look, I'm not
a fan, a huge fan of the rule, but for
different reason. Look, I'm sorry, I couldn't care less about
saving the career of the pitcher who can only pitch
to left handed batters. I'm sorry, how about I mean,
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did you grow up only pitching the left handed batters? No?
What the hell? Seriously, and the ridiculous the perfect example is,
and you're right, they would never replace Mariano Rivera because
he was facing a left hand to hit her right
because he could get everybody out. I mean, I'm looking
like a pitch against right handers. So that's not my
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issue with it. That's like a basketball player who can
all he can do is dribble. Is he gonna make
it in the NBA? All he can do is dribble?
How about Dennis Robbin? All you can do is play defense, rebound,
play defense. But you didn't have to just play him,
But you remember six minutes, You could play him the
whole forty minutes. They can just sub in and out,
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like he comes down for defense and grabs rebound and
then he runs off like I like hockey when they change,
when they change on the fly, and then the other
guy runs out onto the court and he plays offense.
You brought up a gun. I'm glad you brought that up.
Because you know how at the end of games every
blue moon you see the offense for defense, which is
but that would be what happens in baseball. He's like,
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if that happened throughout the game, Like you got a
guy who when you're on offense, he's on the court.
But then they get the other team gets the rebound,
they come down time out and you switch it. No,
I'm sorry, now my problem with it, Rob, I just
think there's a better solution. I think it's this, and
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it's not perfected, but I'm gonna throw this at you.
And I think Buster Olney threw this out. There is
the idea, but I like it. Let me don't love it?
What you like? Yeah, yeah, I like it. I might
love it. I might grow to love all right, you
know how you you grew to love some you you
actually only love one woman in your life. But uh,
why are you gonna make me? That's a downder? Now? No, no, no? Um?
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Four limit each team? I like them? Four each team
to four pictures? How about that? What if you only
get four? What if what if a guy gets knocked
out in the first just all right, he gives up
eight runs in the first inning, he's out after a
third of an inning. Well, first of all, you don't
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have to leave him in for eight runs. You know
you no more to work. But only got three three,
four pictures totals nine inning. So you bring in your
second one. Okay, so now you got two after him.
So he gives up eight runs in the third of
an inning, I'll bring in the second guy. He gives
up five runs, and let's after one inning. Now I'm
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gonna pitch. I have to pitch the other eight innings
with the same two guys. What if they're beat you
know what I mean? People would be like, this is ridiculous.
We gotta keep a minute, watch a twenty three to
four game or rob. You're older than you're older than me,
and you'll remember. And I'm not even trying. I wasn't
trying to be fun to your insult. You're you know,
five years older than me. We remember when it was nothing.
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It was commonplace to see a picture picture complete game
all the time. Now it's like you're the best thing
since slice bread. If you pitch complete, they don't even
let you picture complete because don't take you out. So
I'm just saying I don't want to be like, oh,
you know, Chris, you know we want to go back
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to yesteryear and all that. But I'm just saying four
pictures is still a good amount. Here's my all the
other palm. And that means you have to be strategic, right,
you have to, like you said, if one picture is
getting shelled, you have to figure out, Okay, do I
want to go get rid of him now or let
him go a little bit longer because I only have
two pictures laughter or whatever. Yeah, but the game is
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and then if you're a fan, I mean, unless you're
the team, here's my problem. Though they did it with
the intention to walk. Remember that, oh, just go to
first base instead of throwing the four ball. So they're
trying to speed the game up. But the only problem is,
who are you speeding the game up? Four? I don't believe, Chris.
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And this is just as a baseball fan, a guy
who goes to a lot of games every year. When
I go to a game, I expect three hours. I
just do. I'm not looking for a fast game. I'm
not looking for two hours and ten minutes. I'm not.
I go to the game knowing I'm committing three hours
minimum to a baseball. But I'm just just hearing me out.
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If the game goes long and I have somewhere else
to go or something to do, you know what I do.
I get up, I walk out, and I listen to
the rest on the radio. I don't understand the whole notion.
If it's only about time and you want the game
to be two hours, you put up you just you
played for two hours, and whatever the score is after
two hours, that's to get I mean, because I don't
think that's what what what's the difference, that's what that's
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what you're trying to accomplish. Why don't you just do that?
If it's about getting the two hours, then play. You
start the game at seven h five and at nine
oh five, no matter what the score is, no matter
if the other team has a base is loaded, no
matter what, the game's over and you and you leave
that The time thing I don't get, because most people
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understand a baseball game doesn't have a clock, well but
times and look, Rob, with all due respect, you're a
senior citizen. No I'm not. You're legally a senior citizen.
You get discounts at Arby's. That girl all that that
girl has some nerve to give me a senior guy.
I mean, seriously, you get this. People get out when
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you get on the bus, people get out with stout.
I've seen it. No, But I mean it's a different day,
rob these young kids. I know you're right. You go
to the park, you see young kids, and but people
don't have as much time as they used to to
just leisure. We're different society now. And I also don't
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think it's only about the time. But have you say
baseball is obviously a slow game already, no doubt, But
when you sit in the stands, Chris's a last of time.
You sat in the stands of the NFL game with
the stoppage of play and the commercials, it takes forever. Yeah,
I mean, I know you're not gonna like this, but
football is just more exciting. But there's less down talk.
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It's a game. There's more downtime between FLA No, I
don't know, because between pitches and between the play it's
pretty close up. And now you got a lot of
teams going no huddle is a much slower. When you
go to a one o'clock game, you don't leave until
four or fifteen. Yeah, but nobody mind. That's why I'll
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be honest with you. I don't and the baseball can
say this and maybe they mean it. To me, it's
not just about the time. It's about the fact that
baseball is a slow game. And that's change the game.
That's the game, that's what it is. But when we
grew up loving the game, we weren't seeing guys pitch
the one batter. We weren't seeing nine pictures in the game.
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You gotta admit that, right that when the game was
America's pastime, dudes could throw a complete game. Dude, you
didn't have eight pictures per game. You didn't have Chris.
But I mean, come on, but the difference to is
and you gotta admit this, the differences. Every game wasn't
on television when we were growing up. And I know
people find this hard to believe. Every every baseball game
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saw off the Mets. When I was a kid growing
up in New York, it would be a treat for
the Mets. That so when you didn't have TV on
those games, the games went by way faster there weren't.
It was we were a different society to everything. I'm
just saying the tip of our fingers game. The game
went by fashion. Now that every game is on television,
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it is drawn out and there's a lot of commercials.
There's our pregame showers, our post games, just saying that
every every game is gone basketball. You can say the
same thing about NBA, and that's nothing got. But you
got clock, so people feel like they're moving. There's a
but there's a clock. I'll not be honest to me.
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It's not just the length of the game, all right,
But I'm saying that's what pace of the game is not.
The nature of the game is slow and you don't
have to add things in to make it even slower.
And this is not just baseball. I got a problem
with some of these sports becoming over specialized in general.
You know, I've talked about it with the NBA. I
don't want just these specialists. Give me a dude that
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can play basketball. So don't just have a bunch of
three pointers. I can play a whole game. Yeah, you know,
let me get some me range, let me get some
post play. So let's throw it out to you. I'm
passionate about this, and I know Rob is too, and
I believe you are two eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three
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sixty Here from baseball fans who think that this is
a good idea to limit or handcuffer manager when there's
a matchup and then the manager can't put the lefty
in and the guy comes up and it's a home
run right off. The right handed people are gonna be like,
while we had a lefty there, but we couldn't put
him in. Hold on this would also look look this
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I heard manager saying, well, this takes away from the
strategic elements of the game. No, it's still strategic. You
just have to it's different strategy. Now I have to
figure Okay, the guy wanted to bring in Kenny pitched
to both lefties and righties. Is it worth bringing him
in because he's great against lefties, but he might get
shelled by the right matter who's up there, So strategy
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is still in it. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Odd Couple with Chris Brussar. Then Rob Parker
week Day said seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific. We
always love to bring in our man. He's the MGM
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Behind the Book none other than Jay Rude. Jay was happening.
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What's happening today? Hey, how's it going, guys? It's going
pretty good here in Vegas. We got a bunch of
life basketball here in Vegas. Because the middle of conference championships,
it's a good week. Yeah, yeah, I bet, I bet.
But let's let's move to the NFL. We'll get to
college basketball in a moment. But look, Jay, in the
last week, I've seen the Steelers Super Bowl ods drop
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from twenty five to one to thirty to one after
trading away Antonio Brown. The Browns odds jump from twenty
five to one to fourteen to one after acquiring Odell Beckham,
junr Is it safe to say, you guys at him
GM will have the Browns as the favorites in the
AFC North this season. Yeah? I don't know. I mean,
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we have a reacted that severely on the Steelers. We're
still at eighteen to one on the Steelers. We've got
the Browns at twenty to one. So there's still a
lot of stuff that can happen, you know what I mean.
You got the draft coming up. There could be some
trades that happen in the draft, and you know, you're
not going to find an Antonio Brown out there, but
you could find a guy that can be good enough
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and turn into the next Antonio Brown. So, uh, you know,
there's still some of the mindset the Browns are going
to have to beat me before I really start to
make them any kind of real playoff contenders. Smart man,
smart man. So you feel like the High Republic is
overestimating the impact of these trades and and and I'll
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throw into Leveon Bell signing in that too. Are we
all overestimating all three of these moves? Yeah? I mean,
you know a lot of times, you know, teams do
addition by subtraction, so you know you can't help. But
notice that, you know, the last year or so, the
Steeler locker room has been kind of a mess. So
I mean, if they're cleaning it up, and they're you know,
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definitely gonna stick with you know, Big Ben, and uh,
you know Tomlin is going to start to resurrect the
team that you know can make a deep run. I
still think, you know, there's not too many organizations that
are better than the Steeler organization, you know, from the
ownership all the way down. So, um, you know they've had,
they've had some lumps, they've had some personality issues. But um,
I think they recognize it and they're figuring it out. Hey, Jay,
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March Madness kicks off on Tuesday. How big do you
guys expect the handle of be in Vegas? Is expecting
record setting or about the usual? No, I think it's
gonna be Uh. I think, you know, the tournament looks
to be wide open, right, I mean if Duke uh,
you know, and doesn't kind of a do what everyone
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thinks they're gonna do, it's who, you know, good luck
picking the ten teams. You might you know, pick the
team that is going to face them. So it's pretty
good wide open. But I think with the passing of
sports betting all over or you know, in different jurisdictions,
it's going to drive some people to come to you know,
like I always say, the mecca of sports betting is
still Las Vegas, and I think we're gonna see a
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lot of people show up. You know, we have people
that this is their annual passage, right so the mecca
for them, they come here for twenty straight years. We
got four or five guys that come to the Mirage
and they bring up a box of hats. They already
figured out who they're gonna you know, bet in the
first round. The practice come out and they go buy
hats for every team that they're gonna bet and root
on while they watch the game. Wow, all right, so
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sold up. Follow up on that, I want to ask
you about Duke has been the favorite to win the
tournament basically all season. They had a rough patch without
Zion Williamson. What he's back and you saw how well
he played and healthy. Now did their odds change much
when Zion was hurt or did you guys kind of
always expect that he back be back for the tournament? Yeah? Well,
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I mean they were sitting at eight to five. We
raised them up to nine to five. Um, you know,
and when you're talking about a team that was, you know,
in the neighborhood of you know, top price for the
year was I think six to one with us, and
then they dropped to below three to one pretty much,
I want to say, right after Halloween or or you know,
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beginning of November. So, um, you know, that's a pretty
decent adjustment, especially when you know you're getting into the
nitty gritty of of the season. But um, yeah, we're
still at nine to five, but I think that's you know,
I've been saying it all year. That's created a tremendous
value on other teams that are super high quality teams.
I mean, Gonzaga at four to one, even though they lost, um,
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you know to Saint Mary's. You know, North Carolina eight
to one. You've got Virginia is the next closest to
them at five to two, which I mean Virginia if
they put on any kind of performance like they have
been lately, Uh, you know, you gotta believe they're gonna
be there. Dan two. So um, you know, we didn't
overreact and make Duke like back five to one like
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they were pre preseason, So you know, we're not going
to get burned on that. We realize that, you know,
this is his one year to shine and he's got
to still kind of go out there and perform and
show that he's a clutch guy in games that really count. Jay,
I know the Rockets offs earlier to Golden State, but
they finished a regular season three and one against them.
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Is that something you'll take into account when you set
the lines if those two teams meet again in the playoffs,
You know, I mean a little bit. You know, I've
always I'm not a huge guy that takes historical figures
into consideration, Like when someone goes, oh, hey, a team
is you know, twelve and four against his team over
the last four years. But maybe that involves, you know,
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significantly different personnel, significantly different coaches. But I do take
into consideration if a team, you know, if you've played
four times, that's a pretty good sample, and you know
one team's won three of those four, and if they've
been significant victories, You've got to take that in consideration
because you know, matchups are matchups and they can continue
to be that. Um. You know, That's why I was
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talking to a guy earlier about um moneyball, right, I mean,
moneyball looks really good in one hundred and sixty two games,
but moneyball, you know, the best three out of five
doesn't work so good or five out of you know,
the four out of seven. So you know, because so
many wild things can happen, and that's that's the case
in every sport. Jay great stuff is always Jay. I
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should have been in Vegas to bet because I've said
that the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs. I would have
won a lot of money. Right, you would have won
a lot of money because the public was jumping on
that like crazy. We missed Lebron signed. Everybody you know
was getting out there. Uh you know, the old yellow
and purple and going crazy. So uh yeah, anytime you
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can go contrarian, it's always a smart move usually, Jay,
let me ask you quickly. We got about thirty seconds.
What about the Arrow Spits Mikey Garcia fight. What's that
looking like? Uh? Uh, you know, Errol is a big,
big favorite, Um, right now we need him. We've got
a lot of guys looking to bet that have been
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bet and Mikey Garcia. But I've got a pretty significant
uh six figure wager coming in on Arrow, I think
coming in tomorrow morning. Um, We're probably gonna be pretty
balanced on that, but I think you know, it's gonna
be a hell of a fight. You know, always got
to go on one of them. So I give Mikey
a you know, a really good chance. I think, you know,
we're price a little bit high, but I think you know,
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the popularity of the of the larger bets are going
to come in on Arrow for sure, And that's kind
of why we had that baked into the fourth dollar price.
All right, Jay, we appreciate it as always. Man, great
shuff yea anytime. Guys will back you next week.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the Odd
Cup Off with Chris Brusso and Rod Harker. Tyreek Hill,
the Fantastic Kansas City Chiefs Wide Receiver is under investigation
for alleged battery. Here's the details, Rob. All we know
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is what we're reading. It's it's early, but the Kansas
City Chiefs have confirmed that he's under investigation for child
abuse and he and his fiance, Crystal Spinal said but
Crystal Espinal fiance is also listed as others involved. Wow
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so and it appears that the story reports that his
three their three year old son has a broken arm,
and so he's being investigated. He and his fiance. You
know what usually or what might be child abuse because
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their son has a broken you know what usually happens
when you bring a kid into like the doctor or
emergency room with a broken arm or something they automatically
investigate or something like that. That's probably what happened. They
had to bring him in and then they go away
a minute. What happened here? And if the doctor doesn't,
has that been reported? I'm just saying that's normally, that's
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normally what happens. I think they bring they bring you in,
you know what I mean, just in case when kids
come in and they're injured. You want to know what happened.
And of course Tyreek Hill has a history of domestic violence,
right because when she was pregnant with this little bit
college right, I think that time he punched her. This
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was in twenty fourteen, eight weeks pregnant and he punched her.
So I guess is it No, it was, but he
punched her in the stomach and choked her. So you know,
then they reconciled and the charges were the conviction was dismissed,
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and uh it was spunged after he completed his probation requirements. Now,
of course, the Kansas City Chiefs earlier this year this
season had the incident with Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt we've
seen on video while in the hotel in Cleveland, and
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they as soon as they got the details, they cut him.
And don't forget they did give him the benefit of
the doubt where he had because they had come out
before they didn't nobody had seen the video exactly, and
he asked They asked him what had happened. They took
him at his word right and said okay, And then
when the video came out there immediately released him because
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it was it was he had lied from what had happened. Yeah,
so this is not a good situation obviously for the
Kansas City chiefs. If this proves to be true, I'm
sure it'll be the same fate for Hill. They will
cut him immediately, I would imagine, because this would be
another situation even though they drafted him, do you know
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what I mean? Like this and they drafted Hunt, right,
That's what I'm saying. But but like they gave him
a chance when they drafted him. That was your second chance, right.
And now if this is, if this comes out in
the warsh that he was involved and it's just a
sad story, I just realized, I really I'm at loss.
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I'm a different I don't I just couldn't imagine doing it.
I don't know, I know this discipline. I was disciplined
as a kid. Everybody was disciplined as a kid, you
know what I mean. And I don't know what happened,
so it's hard for me to talk about it. There's
nothing that if if this is true, there's nothing that
justifies breaking the three year olds on, not at all. Nothing.
And like you, I was disciplined. I was spanked whipped
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with a belt as a kid, and uh, I believe
in spanking, but not abuse. The difference I never got,
you know, nothing excessive, no broken bones, no black eyes, nothing.
I no. I've never punched, and I spanked them when
they were little, and that pretty much taught them the lesson.
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I never really would have never had an issue after
that because most kids will learn once if you do
something wrong. This was gonna happen. I was sent out
to the yard to go get the switch. You know that.
That's yeah, yeah, that's a Southern thing. Isn't a Southern thing?
A black thing? Maybe a black Southern we I didn't
get the switch, but you know what I'm meaning there,
But it was like, go get a switch, and the
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better not be a little one, because then I'll go
out and pick up but they make you go pick
up a good Yeah, you have to pick out one
that's not too small. It was cool, like you have
to go pick out your the thing that's gonna get
you whacked up. Now, I would be crying before I
even got spank by. I knew when it was coming, right,
And I had a brother, and most of my spankers
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were for fighting with my brothers. Right, And we told
you that some of us is getting spanked first, and
whichever one's getting spanked, the other one is sitting there
watching and crying because they know that that was coming.
But but this is this is uh terrible, and you know,
you hate to even kind of talk about football in
a situation like this, But this is a team that's
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if this is true, it's slowly imploding because of it.
It's own off the field behavior. Right like Kareem Hunt
when he suspended eight games. We just found that out today.
And if you do tack on the last five of
last year, who knows plus the does that include? I
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think it was five games so in the regular season
and then and then he missed a couple on the playoffs.
Two in the playoffs, so right there, that's seven plus
ten that's fifteen that's a whole football season. I'm in
almost fifteen game and uh, who knows. If he was
on the team, they might have beaten the Patriots, they
might have been the Super Bowl. There's all kinds of
other staffs Bowl. But the Chiefs didn't look at that.
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I give them credit that they gave him a chance.
They did right his word and it wasn't true. Yeah, no,
I give him credit. I didn't even think they do.
I thought they'd suspend him immediately for the rest of
the season. That's what I was calling for. But they
went further and cut him in and I think I
think only because they put their reputation out when they
gave him the second chance, and they trusted him, right,
they trusted him. Hey, tell us what's going on, and
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we're paying you all this money. You're gonna lie to
our faces. But Cleveland, when Kareem Hunt gets back, they're
going to be in the fit from that. And remember,
he's gonna miss all eight games. He's not appealing. There's
no appeal for he's doing the right thing. I agree,
even if that's whatever. But he accepted this, he accepted it,
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and he's gonna do that. And I think eight games
is fair. I think that they got it right most
of the time. I have a problem with Goodell and
the people who dole out suspensions because it's all over
the map, you know what I mean, like and and
I never really feel that great about some of them.
And then Goodell has been heavy handed. Didn't have to
come back and take some games off. You remember in
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New Orleans with bounty gate. You know they threw the
book at who the coach. No, well, he got out
for a year. But the other guy, um, the linebacker.
I just right, was it a vilma? And then they
it was originally like twelve games or something, and then
they cut it down. Yeah, but I'm just saying it
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was like a big cut, like from twelve to six
or twelve day. And it's just like you can't be
that off. That's that's big time off. It's not like
normally that might take a game or two off and
I get it right right, But in this case, I
think the NFL got it right. But it's just it's
an ongoing story. It's an ongoing tire hill. If this
is true, he's got real problems. Seriously, I don't mean
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legal problems. I mean, he's got some issues within himself.
When you're punching a pregnant woman in the style I
can't even fathom doing that. And then on top of that, you,
if this is true, break a three year old's arm
like he got some issues man, and he this is
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going If this is true, this is going to be
I hate to compare, but quote unquote worse than Kareem Hunt,
just because it's a second time to really grotesque incidents,
you know, and he's going to suffer badly. So, like
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I said, the Kansas City Chiefs could be imploding from within.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeart Radio app. Rob We're gonna talk about something next
that is very near and dear and close to your heart.
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Major League Baseball starts up and went two weeks. Yes,
I can't wait. Unbelievable Like opening day movement Dodger Stadium
is two weeks from yesterday around the league, and it's
gonna be exciting, all right. But some new rules were
announced yesterday by Major League Baseball and the Players Association,
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and you know, there's too many to go through here,
but there's one that really stuck out to most people,
including you and I, yes, and that is that this
is a proposal for twenty twenty, so not this season,
but next season, that every pitcher that enters the game
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has to pitch to at least three batters unless he
ends in any Now, I don't know if you saw this.
If it gets hurt, you know, get hurt. But I
don't know if you saw the latest news today. This
is going to be tried out in the minor leagues
this year, and if it doesn't work, obviously you you may,
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you know, scrap it. But it's going to be tried
out in the minors this year and then if it works,
if they like it, it'll be in the major leagues
in twenty twenty. You don't like it, no, I really don't.
And I get why. I understand. It's this whole time thing, right,
the games are taking too long. People want it to
move along. I get all that, but then you really
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take away like specialty guys who might be good just
against lefties. So I need him to come in and
pitch to a left handed batter in a big in
a tight spot. Right, he's great. Lefty's kid hit another
lefty if that's your specialty, and so now he has
to pitch to that guy. And then two more guys,
regardless if they're batting lefty or righty right, and maybe
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gets crushed by righty's. I get where they're trying to.
So you've seen the games. Chris Ye manager comes out,
lefty up, bringing the lefty. Next guy comes up, he's righty,
bringing the right Next guy comes up, he's a lefty,
bringing another lefty. You know. And then you're watching an
inning and all of a sudden, five guys pitched up, yes,
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six batters right. And that is what slows down, because
you gotta remember, you gotta go out to the mound,
walk out to the mound, talk to him up in
the bullpen. He comes out. Then there's another commercial break
because you gotta go and come make another change. After that,
he's got a warm up, and they all got a
warm up, but they all gotta come all away from
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the bullpen. So I get it. Ridiculous. Look, I'm not
a fan, a huge fan of the rule, but for
different reason. Look, I'm sorry, I couldn't care less about
saving the career of the pitcher who can only pitch
to left handed batters. I'm sorry, how about I mean,
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did you grow up only pitching the left handed batters? No?
What the hell? Seriously, and the ridiculous the perfect example is,
and you're right, they would never replace Mariano Rivera because
he was facing a left hand to hit her right
because he could get everybody out. I mean, I'm looking
like a pitch against right handers. So that's not my
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issue with it. That's like a basketball player who can
all he can do is dribble. Is he gonna make
it in the NBA? All he can do is dribble?
How about Dennis Robbin? All you can do is play defense, rebound,
play defense. But you didn't have to just play him,
But you remember six minutes, You could play him the
whole forty minutes. They can just sub in and out,
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like he comes down for defense and grabs rebound and
then he runs off like I like hockey when they change,
when they change on the fly, and then the other
guy runs out onto the court and he plays offense.
You brought up a gun. I'm glad you brought that up.
Because you know how at the end of games every
blue moon you see the offense for defense, which is
but that would be what happens in baseball. He's like,
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if that happened throughout the game, Like you got a
guy who when you're on offense, he's on the court.
But then they get the other team gets the rebound,
they come down time out and you switch it. No,
I'm sorry, now my problem with it, Rob, I just
think there's a better solution. I think it's this, and
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it's not perfected, but I'm gonna throw this at you.
And I think Buster Olney threw this out. There is
the idea, but I like it. Let me don't love it?
What you like? Yeah, yeah, I like it. I might
love it. I might grow to love all right, you
know how you you grew to love some you you
actually only love one woman in your life. But uh,
why are you gonna make me? That's a downder? Now? No, no, no? Um?
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Four limit each team? I like them? Four each team
to four pictures? How about that? What if you only
get four? What if what if a guy gets knocked
out in the first just all right, he gives up
eight runs in the first inning, he's out after a
third of an inning. Well, first of all, you don't
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have to leave him in for eight runs. You know
you no more to work. But only got three three,
four pictures totals nine inning. So you bring in your
second one. Okay, so now you got two after him.
So he gives up eight runs in the third of
an inning, I'll bring in the second guy. He gives
up five runs, and let's after one inning. Now I'm
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gonna pitch. I have to pitch the other eight innings
with the same two guys. What if they're beat you
know what I mean? People would be like, this is ridiculous.
We gotta keep a minute, watch a twenty three to
four game or rob. You're older than you're older than me,
and you'll remember. And I'm not even trying. I wasn't
trying to be fun to your insult. You're you know,
five years older than me. We remember when it was nothing.
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It was commonplace to see a picture picture complete game
all the time. Now it's like you're the best thing
since slice bread. If you pitch complete, they don't even
let you picture complete because don't take you out. So
I'm just saying I don't want to be like, oh,
you know, Chris, you know we want to go back
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to yesteryear and all that. But I'm just saying four
pictures is still a good amount. Here's my all the
other palm. And that means you have to be strategic, right,
you have to, like you said, if one picture is
getting shelled, you have to figure out, Okay, do I
want to go get rid of him now or let
him go a little bit longer because I only have
two pictures laughter or whatever. Yeah, but the game is
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and then if you're a fan, I mean, unless you're
the team, here's my problem. Though they did it with
the intention to walk. Remember that, oh, just go to
first base instead of throwing the four ball. So they're
trying to speed the game up. But the only problem is,
who are you speeding the game up? Four? I don't believe, Chris.
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And this is just as a baseball fan, a guy
who goes to a lot of games every year. When
I go to a game, I expect three hours. I
just do. I'm not looking for a fast game. I'm
not looking for two hours and ten minutes. I'm not.
I go to the game knowing I'm committing three hours
minimum to a baseball. But I'm just just hearing me out.
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If the game goes long and I have somewhere else
to go or something to do, you know what I do.
I get up, I walk out, and I listen to
the rest on the radio. I don't understand the whole notion.
If it's only about time and you want the game
to be two hours, you put up you just you
played for two hours, and whatever the score is after
two hours, that's to get I mean, because I don't
think that's what what what's the difference, that's what that's
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what you're trying to accomplish. Why don't you just do that?
If it's about getting the two hours, then play. You
start the game at seven h five and at nine
oh five, no matter what the score is, no matter
if the other team has a base is loaded, no
matter what, the game's over and you and you leave
that The time thing I don't get, because most people
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understand a baseball game doesn't have a clock, well but
times and look, Rob, with all due respect, you're a
senior citizen. No I'm not. You're legally a senior citizen.
You get discounts at Arby's. That girl all that that
girl has some nerve to give me a senior guy.
I mean, seriously, you get this. People get out when
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you get on the bus, people get out with stout.
I've seen it. No, But I mean it's a different day,
rob these young kids. I know you're right. You go
to the park, you see young kids, and but people
don't have as much time as they used to to
just leisure. We're different society now. And I also don't
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think it's only about the time. But have you say
baseball is obviously a slow game already, no doubt, But
when you sit in the stands, Chris's a last of time.
You sat in the stands of the NFL game with
the stoppage of play and the commercials, it takes forever. Yeah,
I mean, I know you're not gonna like this, but
football is just more exciting. But there's less down talk.
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It's a game. There's more downtime between FLA No, I
don't know, because between pitches and between the play it's
pretty close up. And now you got a lot of
teams going no huddle is a much slower. When you
go to a one o'clock game, you don't leave until
four or fifteen. Yeah, but nobody mind. That's why I'll
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be honest with you. I don't and the baseball can
say this and maybe they mean it. To me, it's
not just about the time. It's about the fact that
baseball is a slow game. And that's change the game.
That's the game, that's what it is. But when we
grew up loving the game, we weren't seeing guys pitch
the one batter. We weren't seeing nine pictures in the game.
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You gotta admit that, right that when the game was
America's pastime, dudes could throw a complete game. Dude, you
didn't have eight pictures per game. You didn't have Chris.
But I mean, come on, but the difference to is
and you gotta admit this, the differences. Every game wasn't
on television when we were growing up. And I know
people find this hard to believe. Every every baseball game
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saw off the Mets. When I was a kid growing
up in New York, it would be a treat for
the Mets. That so when you didn't have TV on
those games, the games went by way faster there weren't.
It was we were a different society to everything. I'm
just saying the tip of our fingers game. The game
went by fashion. Now that every game is on television,
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it is drawn out and there's a lot of commercials.
There's our pregame showers, our post games, just saying that
every every game is gone basketball. You can say the
same thing about NBA, and that's nothing got. But you
got clock, so people feel like they're moving. There's a
but there's a clock. I'll not be honest to me.
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It's not just the length of the game, all right,
But I'm saying that's what pace of the game is not.
The nature of the game is slow and you don't
have to add things in to make it even slower.
And this is not just baseball. I got a problem
with some of these sports becoming over specialized in general.
You know, I've talked about it with the NBA. I
don't want just these specialists. Give me a dude that
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can play basketball. So don't just have a bunch of
three pointers. I can play a whole game. Yeah, you know,
let me get some me range, let me get some
post play. So let's throw it out to you. I'm
passionate about this, and I know Rob is too, and
I believe you are two eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three
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sixty Here from baseball fans who think that this is
a good idea to limit or handcuffer manager when there's
a matchup and then the manager can't put the lefty
in and the guy comes up and it's a home
run right off. The right handed people are gonna be like,
while we had a lefty there, but we couldn't put
him in. Hold on this would also look look this
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I heard manager saying, well, this takes away from the
strategic elements of the game. No, it's still strategic. You
just have to it's different strategy. Now I have to
figure Okay, the guy wanted to bring in Kenny pitched
to both lefties and righties. Is it worth bringing him
in because he's great against lefties, but he might get
shelled by the right matter who's up there, So strategy
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is still in it. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Odd Couple with Chris Brussar. Then Rob Parker
week Day said seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific. We
always love to bring in our man. He's the MGM
Resorts VP of Racing Sports, also the co host of
Behind the Book none other than Jay Rude. Jay was happening.
(22:15):
What's happening today? Hey, how's it going, guys? It's going
pretty good here in Vegas. We got a bunch of
life basketball here in Vegas. Because the middle of conference championships,
it's a good week. Yeah, yeah, I bet, I bet.
But let's let's move to the NFL. We'll get to
college basketball in a moment. But look, Jay, in the
last week, I've seen the Steelers Super Bowl ods drop
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from twenty five to one to thirty to one after
trading away Antonio Brown. The Browns odds jump from twenty
five to one to fourteen to one after acquiring Odell Beckham,
junr Is it safe to say, you guys at him
GM will have the Browns as the favorites in the
AFC North this season. Yeah? I don't know. I mean,
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we have a reacted that severely on the Steelers. We're
still at eighteen to one on the Steelers. We've got
the Browns at twenty to one. So there's still a
lot of stuff that can happen, you know what I mean.
You got the draft coming up. There could be some
trades that happen in the draft, and you know, you're
not going to find an Antonio Brown out there, but
you could find a guy that can be good enough
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and turn into the next Antonio Brown. So, uh, you know,
there's still some of the mindset the Browns are going
to have to beat me before I really start to
make them any kind of real playoff contenders. Smart man,
smart man. So you feel like the High Republic is
overestimating the impact of these trades and and and I'll
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throw into Leveon Bell signing in that too. Are we
all overestimating all three of these moves? Yeah? I mean,
you know a lot of times, you know, teams do
addition by subtraction, so you know you can't help. But
notice that, you know, the last year or so, the
Steeler locker room has been kind of a mess. So
I mean, if they're cleaning it up, and they're you know,
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definitely gonna stick with you know, Big Ben, and uh,
you know Tomlin is going to start to resurrect the
team that you know can make a deep run. I
still think, you know, there's not too many organizations that
are better than the Steeler organization, you know, from the
ownership all the way down. So, um, you know they've had,
they've had some lumps, they've had some personality issues. But um,
I think they recognize it and they're figuring it out. Hey, Jay,
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March Madness kicks off on Tuesday. How big do you
guys expect the handle of be in Vegas? Is expecting
record setting or about the usual? No, I think it's
gonna be Uh. I think, you know, the tournament looks
to be wide open, right, I mean if Duke uh,
you know, and doesn't kind of a do what everyone
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thinks they're gonna do, it's who, you know, good luck
picking the ten teams. You might you know, pick the
team that is going to face them. So it's pretty
good wide open. But I think with the passing of
sports betting all over or you know, in different jurisdictions,
it's going to drive some people to come to you know,
like I always say, the mecca of sports betting is
still Las Vegas, and I think we're gonna see a
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lot of people show up. You know, we have people
that this is their annual passage, right so the mecca
for them, they come here for twenty straight years. We
got four or five guys that come to the Mirage
and they bring up a box of hats. They already
figured out who they're gonna you know, bet in the
first round. The practice come out and they go buy
hats for every team that they're gonna bet and root
on while they watch the game. Wow, all right, so
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sold up. Follow up on that, I want to ask
you about Duke has been the favorite to win the
tournament basically all season. They had a rough patch without
Zion Williamson. What he's back and you saw how well
he played and healthy. Now did their odds change much
when Zion was hurt or did you guys kind of
always expect that he back be back for the tournament? Yeah? Well,
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I mean they were sitting at eight to five. We
raised them up to nine to five. Um, you know,
and when you're talking about a team that was, you know,
in the neighborhood of you know, top price for the
year was I think six to one with us, and
then they dropped to below three to one pretty much,
I want to say, right after Halloween or or you know,
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beginning of November. So, um, you know, that's a pretty
decent adjustment, especially when you know you're getting into the
nitty gritty of of the season. But um, yeah, we're
still at nine to five, but I think that's you know,
I've been saying it all year. That's created a tremendous
value on other teams that are super high quality teams.
I mean, Gonzaga at four to one, even though they lost, um,
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you know to Saint Mary's. You know, North Carolina eight
to one. You've got Virginia is the next closest to
them at five to two, which I mean Virginia if
they put on any kind of performance like they have
been lately, Uh, you know, you gotta believe they're gonna
be there. Dan two. So um, you know, we didn't
overreact and make Duke like back five to one like
(26:59):
they were pre preseason, So you know, we're not going
to get burned on that. We realize that, you know,
this is his one year to shine and he's got
to still kind of go out there and perform and
show that he's a clutch guy in games that really count. Jay,
I know the Rockets offs earlier to Golden State, but
they finished a regular season three and one against them.
(27:19):
Is that something you'll take into account when you set
the lines if those two teams meet again in the playoffs,
You know, I mean a little bit. You know, I've
always I'm not a huge guy that takes historical figures
into consideration, Like when someone goes, oh, hey, a team
is you know, twelve and four against his team over
the last four years. But maybe that involves, you know,
(27:42):
significantly different personnel, significantly different coaches. But I do take
into consideration if a team, you know, if you've played
four times, that's a pretty good sample, and you know
one team's won three of those four, and if they've
been significant victories, You've got to take that in consideration
because you know, matchups are matchups and they can continue
to be that. Um. You know, That's why I was
(28:03):
talking to a guy earlier about um moneyball, right, I mean,
moneyball looks really good in one hundred and sixty two games,
but moneyball, you know, the best three out of five
doesn't work so good or five out of you know,
the four out of seven. So you know, because so
many wild things can happen, and that's that's the case
in every sport. Jay great stuff is always Jay. I
(28:23):
should have been in Vegas to bet because I've said
that the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs. I would have
won a lot of money. Right, you would have won
a lot of money because the public was jumping on
that like crazy. We missed Lebron signed. Everybody you know
was getting out there. Uh you know, the old yellow
and purple and going crazy. So uh yeah, anytime you
(28:45):
can go contrarian, it's always a smart move usually, Jay,
let me ask you quickly. We got about thirty seconds.
What about the Arrow Spits Mikey Garcia fight. What's that
looking like? Uh? Uh, you know, Errol is a big,
big favorite, Um, right now we need him. We've got
a lot of guys looking to bet that have been
(29:06):
bet and Mikey Garcia. But I've got a pretty significant
uh six figure wager coming in on Arrow, I think
coming in tomorrow morning. Um, We're probably gonna be pretty
balanced on that, but I think you know, it's gonna
be a hell of a fight. You know, always got
to go on one of them. So I give Mikey
a you know, a really good chance. I think, you know,
we're price a little bit high, but I think you know,
(29:28):
the popularity of the of the larger bets are going
to come in on Arrow for sure, And that's kind
of why we had that baked into the fourth dollar price.
All right, Jay, we appreciate it as always. Man, great
shuff yea anytime. Guys will back you next week.
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