Russell Westbrook Stays Holding 'L's'

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So let's get into it, and let's start with a
team that is on the verge of going home. I
thought they were going to the Western Conference Finals. Well,
they still might be. They still might even talking about
with a straight face, we're talking about the Oklahoma City Thunder. No,

(03:40):
I'm not okay, they're done. They're done, and uh and
good riddens, because they've looked bad look at you. I'm
just keeping it real down three one to the Portland Trailblazers,
quite frankly, have been outplayed drastically for most of it.
And from Russell west Brook to Paul George to the

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role players, they have all been out played. Stephen Adams
by in this cancer I mean Terry Stots coaching circles
around Billy Donovan from top to bottom. The Portland Trailblazers
have given it to the Oklahoma City Thunder and the man. Look,
when you're the face of the franchise, you get the

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credit when things go well, and you get the blame
when things go poorly. Amen, because that's how it goes.
I don't care how if gods get their feelings hurt.
You'll stand up there and take all the all the
praise when things go well, and everybody wants to put
you on the front page and all that other stuff.
So there's no doubt about it, yea. And Russell Westbrook

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is unquestionably, whether you think he or Paul George is
the best player on the Thunder, Westbrook is unquestionably the
face of the Thunder and he is having I guess
there's no other way to around it. But to call
it a woful a woeful series. I mean, his numbers

(05:06):
are his numbers. You know, he does it twenty one points,
which for him is low, but twenty one points a game,
nine point eight essentially ten assists, eight rebounds a game.
But he's shooting thirty six percent from the field, thirty
percent from three, and Damian Lillard is flat out schooling him,

(05:27):
schooling him. And the question now, Rob, a lot of
people are asking, is what does this mean. This is
the third straight year if things go as they look
like they're headed, that Russell Westbrook will be eliminated in
the first round of the playoffs, all three years, of course,

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following Kevin Durant's departure, and so Russell Westbrook has not
been able to lead them out of the first round
despite his great triple double seasons. And people are asking,
what does this mean for Westbrooks legacy. We know he's
not done, He's only thirty, he's got time left. But
my answer is simple, Rob, nothing. It does nothing for

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us to ruin his legacy because to me, Russell Westbrooks
legacy will not be about winning winning championships. I'm not
saying he's not a winner he's a loser. I'm not
saying all that he'll win to a certain level, but
I don't believe he can lead you to a championship.
To me, Russell Westbrooks legacy is going to be similar

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to that of Alan Iverson's, of Pistol Pete Maraviches, of
Dominique Wilkins, where he's a first ballot Hall of Famer
without question. He I think when next team, I think
the next all you know team that they'll have will
be all the seventy five greatest players of all time

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at the seventy fifth anniversary of the league. They did
fifty in two in nineteen ninety seven, I believe it
was twenty five after that. Twenty five years after that
will be what twenty twenty two, I guess that'll be.
So I think he'll make he should make the top

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seventy five players of all time. This is a guy
that's done something no one else has done. The averaging
the triple double for three straight seasons might be four
or five by the time he's done. He's the only
guy that that will Chamberlain to have the twenty twenty
twenty game. He did it in dedication of the rapper,
Nipsey Hustle, he is uh the only there's another thing.

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He oh the only player in NBA history to lead
the league in scoring and assist two times each. As
a heck of an accomplishment. I think he's He's His
legacy is going to be that he was this individual phenom,
the spectacle, this marvel, this tremendous individual player. And again,

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like Iverson, like Dominique, like Pistol Pete, never won a championship,
but he is this tremendous individual feenion who's done something
no one else in the history of the game has done.
So I don't think losing in the first round. Alan Iverson,
other than the two thousand and one run to the
finals with Larry Brown as his coach, didn't have a

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lot of playoffs success. Pistol Pete Maravich never won a
playoff series when he was in his prime and the
leader of a team. He went to Boston as an
older guy, was a role player, finally won a round
when Larry Bird was a rookie. Dominique never got out
of the second round, only won three playoff series in
his career. So there are great players that this has

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happened too before. I think that's going to be Westbrooks legacy.
I've come to grips with it, and I think once
you come to grips with who he is, what he
is is, then it is what it is. I don't
think his legacy has finished yet. I think that at
this point, when you're looking at what happened yesterday and
the notion that they'll get knocked out, I mean, I get,
I get where you're coming from, and I get what's

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happened in the NBA before. And remember that that whole
Hall of Fame thing anyway, doesn't make any sense. It's
not the NBA Hall of Fame. It's the Basketball Hall
of Fame. And people are all kinds of people are
in who have never won anything longevity. But some of
them I'm just saying, like like, I don't want to
poo poo the Hall of Fame like that. I just say, yeah,

(09:36):
but I'm saying a lot of nobody knows what the
criteria is to get in, and Tracy McGrady would be
one of those people. Yeah, but winning I don't think
winning the championship should be the I just I'm not
saying it's just winning but Westbrook deserves it, no question.
I mean, he's done something that nobody had ever done.
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying when you look
at like the Hall of Fame and whatnot, I think

(09:56):
if you had an NBA Hall of Fame and probably would,
you would be better and he would kind of have
an idea. This This hall of Fame is just so
wide open. It's not gonna take anything away from him
because he's still accomplished the three back to back to
back triple doubles, which which for a long time nobody
could do. So I get that he's cemented there, uh
but but he's not done completely. But it is. It's

(10:19):
another one of those situations for all the people who
have been anti Russell Westbrook, and they were I know
it's not over, but just about proving uh correct when
they talk about, you know, whether or not he's the
leader and whether or not he can win when it
matters most. And in this case, even you and Antonio Daniels,
you thought that they still should be able to And

(10:41):
I'm just saying this from the standpoint off get to
the conversation. I don't think he can't win at any level,
but I'm just saying it talks about It talks about what,
you know, what you thought of him and that team.
Not he gets to the conversation right and that you know,
given the weaker road on that side of the racket,
you thought that, yeah, they play well whatever. And not

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only do they lose the first two games, you know,
which were on the road in Portland, but then they
come home, they win, and then they lose that very
important game that they needed to get back to and
Russell not only that, he has one point in the
second half, I mean one point that's almost inconceivable for
twenty one, I mean inconceivable. Here's where I think it

(11:24):
does hurt Russell Westbrook. Rob again not gonna touch his
legacy in my view. Where I think it hurts is
his current stature within the league. Yeah, I agree with that.
The way people look at him, and they will frown
at Russell Westbrook. You won't be able to convince people
that the stuff that he's done, you know, with the
triple doubles matter. Like and I think I will never

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downplay average in the triple dumb But for me, like
Damian Lillard coming into this series, I probably probably would
have told you Westbrook is better than Lillard. I'm not
saying that anymore, Damian. And it's not just that it's
a one on one matchup. Lillard is a better basketball player.

(12:07):
Russell's a better athlete. He's more explosive, he's more of
a spectacle. But Lillard, Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, James Harden
at the point guard position. I gotta put them ahead
of Russ now. And you know, Rob, when we talk
about who the top five players in the game, you
know those four and five, three, four, five, six, they

(12:29):
always kind of alternate, right. I don't think Russ is
in that discussion anymore. He's been in that discussion. You
couldn't help, but put him in that discussion not anymore.
I don't think I can do that anymore. No, I
think that's fair at least off of this, coming off
of what happened and what has happened. And you know,
unless they turn it around and he plays great and
they win three games in the row, then we'll revisit

(12:51):
this and have another conversation. But when you do what
you did at home and a must win game and
you score one point, am I right? When I think
you question and I think it's but it's it's the
last three years too. I mean, look at these field
goal percentages in the last three playoff postseasons for Westbrook
twenty seventeen, first one without Durant thirty eight point eight percent,

(13:15):
twenty eighteen last year thirty nine point eight percent, this
year thirty six point three percent. I mean, you gotta
have some degree of efficiency. And I don't hold the
forty two or forty three percent shooting in the regular
season against him, but in the playoff time you have
to step up better. And he just hasn't done it,

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and he's not recognized because he's continuing to take jumpers
and three pointers, bad three pointers that are shooting them
kind of out of these games to some degree. So
it's ross saying I look, and we gotta say it too.
Paul George hadn't been balling either. I mean, Paul George no, no,
has been pretty much just as bad as Russ. But

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we did talk about that. I'm not giving him a pass,
but he is injured, isn't Isn't he hurt Chris? He's playing.
You know, we don't give Lebron. I mean we could comment, yeah,
he probably wasn't the same. You know Lebron, but we
don't give him a pass. Or Leba put up twenty eight,
twenty seven, eight and eight. Yeah, and he didn't get them,
like you said, he didn't get them to the playoffs.

(14:21):
Paul George shooting thirty seven percent, Yeah, not good, thirty
percent from three after you know, a season, regular season
at gad him in the MVP race. So neither of
the stars are Oksey has stepped up. But we've been
talking Westbrook all right, throwing it out to you eight seven,
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All right, we're gonna throw it out to you. Do
you think this playoff drought, not just this year, but
the last three has really sullied Russell Westbrooks legacy? All right,
it is your turn away, and let's start with Marty
in Kentucky. Marty, what's happening and how's it going? Doing? Great?

(17:30):
How are you, buddy? I'm great. I've seen you on
Twitter watching the game together last night. I'm glad. No,
you guys actually do enjoy this company. Oh yeah, no,
no, no no, no, Marty, no, what we're friends. We've been
fronts for twenty five years. For real, Chris, Chris, when
when you're watching the ball game and seeing seasons walk
by this robe the game, Oh my gosh, he gets

(17:52):
so excited. It's it's incredible. That's what. Well, I'll tell
you what I agree with you, Chris, Um. I don't
think this affects Russell Westbrook's legacy. I think that NBA
fans are intelligent. They understand he is what he is.
They don't No one expects him to lead a team
to a championship, but it is. It is a business

(18:14):
of entertainment, and he is. Yep, he is so entertained
to watch. You mean this guy to go into the
all same Oh, no question. Yeah, I don't had an
average thanks Martin for a season. Don't you think he'd
be a Hall of Famer? I think that that he
needed that because certainly because he's not, because this seals
youth saying like saying, if he didn't and then that

(18:35):
has the poor playoff performances, he would be born borderline.
Now he's not born. Yeah, I still think he being
but you know what I'm saying, arguable, But I think
he's still have done enough Sean Sean and sacrament on yeap,
you're on the couple of Fox Mortuadio. What's up Sean
first and foremost, Man, I was on the radio Saturday

(18:55):
talking about how Russell was gonna be the next big thing,
how he's just like Jordan before he wanted to tide
and what he do do it in the weekend made
me look like a damn food man. Staky he was
so but now irees on him, not not not even close. Man.

(19:17):
What it made me do is realize how great Dame
famous man, the Oakland native just down the way from
on the eighty from Sack, he's the real deal, dude.
I mean, last year it was kind of embarrassing when
they got swept out by New Orleans. But he's showing
me something this year, which is the reason why I
don't think that Russell looking so bad this series is
gonna really affect him even the last few series. What

(19:38):
it really makes me look at is how bad Paul
Georgia is looking right now and the rest of the crew.
If you look at their field goal their three point
field goal percentage. When Russia dries down and kicks the
ball out for them to shoot the wide open three.
It's gotta be like in the low thirties. They've been
looking terrible, So I don't really feel like you could
really knock the Russ. Now you gotta look at supporting
Caron couldn't do it before you gave him the big three,
So what makes you think rusted? Yeah, But Sean, I'm

(20:00):
gonna stop you. The only problem I have with that
you can't score one point in the second half in
your own crib and then point to other people. And
I get it. The supporting cast isn't good, but that's
not good enough. None of them have shown the right,
including West. No right. But look hard though had had harder,
had no field goals, scored the other game, but he

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made the big shots at the end when it mattered
fourteen points, and he made the big shot in the
second at least in the fourth Quartersteen points. That's what
I mean. I get it. Hardened a terrible day, but
he came through at the end. Thanks for the call, Sean.
Let's go to Max and Georgia. Maxhall with Christ and Robb, gentlemen,
good afternoon. How y'all doing it? Man, We're doing great.

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YEP appreciate yaws always I wanted to say, um, right
out the gate, definitely a Hall of famer, like you said,
triple double seasons aside. I think he's definitely a Hall
of Famer, But I just want to know where is
the accountability these days in sports and athletes? Um, and
I stretched that all the way through to the front
office with Sam Presti, I think he gets a pass sometimes.

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I mean, the guys made two errors in judgment, if
you want to say, with Harden and now durant Um,
it looks like he's gonna be kind of quote unquote
stuck with Westbrook. And I think Westbrook's going down in
this trail that I don't think he's gonna have another
free agent want to sign and play with him. What
you guys think, Well, I think you're probably right. But
to be honest, they don't need like you got Westbrook

(21:26):
and Paul George. What you need our shooters. You really
don't need another star. I know we talk about big three,
not with you. You just need to put the right
role players around around those two. If they're right and
they're playing up to their capabilities. All right, let's squeeze in.
Uh Chris from Missouri, you're on the odd couple of

(21:47):
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Chris, Hey, good evening, gentlemen
from Missouri from you know, I went to Missoo State.
That's right, I went to MISSOI. Hey, I went to
Missouri State. Gobearts there you go ahead anyway. So look,
he's a great player, Russ. You can't argue what he's accomplished,
but he is going to be at the top of

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the class of lifetime losers when it comes to the NBA.
He's look at players like Carmelo. His biggest accomplishment is
he got three gold medals, big deals, Carmelo. He also
won a national championship. Sure in college, right, but I
mean what you know, what you do in college doesn't
always translate over to pro no, no doubt. Would you

(22:29):
rather be Tom Brady or a bad example? Not would
be Joe Flacco with one title or Damn Marino with
a whole lot of passing yards and nothing to show
for it a career I would I would rather have
Marino's career personal you know what, But I would take
Joe Flaccos from the standpoint, Hey, I'll tell you Joe

(22:49):
inter system, that's why. But but look, no, if Flacco
to you, they wanted to go look at his he
had he was eleven touchdowns, no pick. Yeah, like believable year. Yeah,
but you would rather have Joe Flacco's career. I would rather.
I would rather win a championship at one point and
be great at it when he wanted. He was great.
It wasn't like if you told me it was a

(23:12):
defense and he was terrible at quarterback like Manning when
he had ninety one year, then that would change. If
you go look at that championship year, Chris, he was
I was good. He wasn't the reason they won it. Yes,
he was the reason they won it. He was great,
but he wasn't the reason they wont He was unbelievable,
that great. He had eleven touchdown no picks. If I
remember correctly, I look at him. He was good, but

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the reason he come on a driving for us. Come on,
I would take that over not winning. All right, we
will continue the basketball conversation with the voice of the
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talked in the in the press room. Look, let's assume
I know it's not over, but you know, most of
us expect Golden State to move on to the next round,
as we expect Houston to do the same. They play
Utah tonight, can close it out. Do you think this
could be at the year that a Houston upsets Golden State,
because obviously they're looking extremely good in their series. Yes,

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I think all year long they've been vulnerable. Um. Now,
the thing is, you know they'll have a they'll have
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but they'll follow that game with one of the all
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at at against the Celtics at home, Phoenix beat them
at home, and you're scratching your head and saying, yeah,
they just don't have that hunger. They seem bored sometimes.
And then they'll come up with a game where they
just lambast a really good Denver Nugget team, or they'll
beat somebody else like just pummel them and dominate them

(29:15):
start to finish. So every time you think that they're
they're they're going to be a vulnerable team, they follow
it up with, Wow, they really are the best team
in the NBA. But it's hard to say, you know,
because when you do that, you play with fire when
you eventually get to another elite team like Houston. So
you know, if it turns out it's Houston and Golden State,
and it certainly looks like it's going to be that way.

(29:36):
I can't even begin to tell you how much I
can't wait for that series. Just the fascination of Houston,
who still have those scars from what happened last year,
but they also still have the confidence that they can
beat them. That's going to be I think an iconic series.
I agree. What about the ratings, they were down the
first numbers, we got down twenty six. Obviously Levron not

(29:58):
being there. He's the biggest DAR in the league, so
that does hurt. But is there all some so some
Warrior burnout. Most people believe they'll go to the finals
for the fifth time in a row, first time a
team has done that since the sixties, you know, the Celtics.
It's been a long time. Most people expect him to win.
Is it's some of that because the game's actually in

(30:19):
the first round have been pretty good. You know. I
don't believe it's burnout, because I do think I think
it's more of They went from being the most beloved
team to watch. Now they have a little bit of
villain in them, and I think that people love to
see Goliath and knocked off and who's going to be
the one to do it. I think the first thing
you said is basically it. I think we all underestimated

(30:43):
the power of Lebron. If Lebron was on a team
and you guys and me and your producer were the
starting five, people would still turn in to watch him
because you know, he's just one of those special athletes
that come along once in a generation who's just compelling
and as musty TV. And it really is strange without them,

(31:05):
and that's that's the key to the draw. Now, I
think other players are going to get the opportunity. Now
we've seen some of it, whether it's Giannis, whether it's
Damian Lillard. You know, some of these new guys who
are really on the scene, who now can kind of
maybe start to take the place of others, just like
it's always happened. But there's no question the absence of
Lebron is that a major impact. Mike. Those second rounds series,

(31:28):
it looks like the way they're going to wrap up
in the East, I mean Philadelphia, Toronto, Milwaukee, Boston. I
miss Lebron like everybody else. But these series, both of
the OOSE series, I think are gonna be epic. Is
there one team you think has the advantage when you
look at those four in the East? Zero? None. I can't,

(31:50):
I can't, you know. You know, Boston obviously is the
intangible there, because in terms of overall talent and what
they did last year, you think they have the edge.
But Milwaukee just refuses to stop playing at the level
they've played all year. I was waiting all year for

(32:12):
them to dip a little bit. They never did. And
then in the Plass now, obviously they caught a break
with a Blake Griffin who missed the first couple of
games and is clearly not one hundred percent, although he
played pretty well in Game three, so they got a
little bit of the luck of the draw, but they
haven't declined for a team that no one expected to
be that good. The way they've dealt with the pressure

(32:35):
of being the hunted so so impressive. But I don't
put them really above Toronto or Boston. The only thing
with Philadelphia that holds me back from including them is
Joel Embie's health, because if he was healthy, I think
they'd be right there. So that's why I agree with
you guys. Those two matchups the Eastern Conference semifinals have

(32:55):
a chance to be as as fun and as enjoyable
if you're a basketball fans as any Eastern Conference semifinals
we've had in a long long time. It's the eye couple.
We're joined by Mike Breen, the voice of the NBAO
on ABC, Mike Russell. Westbrook's performance, you know, one point
in the second half was a huge game at home.
Of course, now they're down three one. This could be

(33:18):
if they don't come back and win this. Three years
in a row, first round exit. Where are we with Westbrook?
And how shocking is it that he had that kind
of performance in the second half and he could go
out again in the first round as talented as this
guy is. You know, the ironic thing Robbie was that,

(33:38):
you know, he was really upset with them losing in
the first round last year, and as you said, that
was two years in a row. So he I thought
he did the best job he's ever done of tweaking
his game the first half of the season, absolutely playing
in terms of overall ball as well as he's played,
and really acquiescing to Paul George that this is your

(34:01):
team in many ways now. Then George gets hurt, and
after the All Star break, when George was clearly not
one hundred percent, I thought Westbrook started to get more
into I've got to do it. I've got to do it,
and he got in that mode that you know, again,
there's nobody that wants to win more than he does.
Is nobody that competes as much as he does, but

(34:22):
sometimes to the point of, you know, it can have
an impact on the overall production of the team. And
I think that he got caught up in that again
and he's not playing the same way now, you know,
with the playoff pressure and with the way again George
is still not one hundred percent. I don't think he's
playing the same way he did earlier in the season,
So it's is it surprising a little bit? But I

(34:45):
do think, like, especially in this series, you've got to
give a lot of credit to to what Portland's doing
to him. They're not making it easy on him, and
the effort he has to put forth on the defensive
end with these two unbelievable guards, I think is maybe
drained him a little bit. Mike Breen, great stuff as always, Man.
We appreciate you giving us a few minutes. I promise

(35:08):
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(36:00):
couple of Christ russ Are and Rob Parker. You know,
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All right, let's turn to some football. Right. We got
the NFL Draft of course coming up Thursday. I'm excited.

(36:23):
I'm excited about every dram. We got a big NFL
show off stead on that Thursday. Right, we may not
being there to be a big draft show here on
Fox Sports Radio, so make sure you tune into that.
Maybe watch the draft with the volume down, listen to
It's gonna be top notch. I'll tell you that. And
we'll be back on Friday regular time. But there was
a report today we've all assumed now for the past

(36:45):
few weeks that the Arizona Cardinals are going to draft
the quarterback out of Oklahoma. Yeah, we report today by
Pete Prisco of CBS Sports. Here's what he said. Initially,
the ownership pushed for Kyler Murray that much. I know.
I was told that the reason they did it is

(37:05):
they are having a hard time selling tickets. Well, they
put it out there. Arizona was lukewarm to it, meaning
the fans, I assume. And so now all of a sudden,
they are pulling back, and from what I've been told,
they're going to go in a different direction. They are
not going to draft Kyler Murray. With all due respect
to Pete Prisco, Rob this is the week where you

(37:28):
see all types of smoke screens, and I would tend
to believe this is a smoke screen. Look Kingsbury, Cliff
Kingsbury has been in on drafting or having Kyler Murray
since he was in high school. And I think he
wants Kyler Murray to run his offense. It's guy that

(37:51):
hadn't had big time success at any level really as
a head coach, and he's got to get the perfect
quarterback in his eyes for his sister. And I think
he believes it's Kyler Murray. And I here's what I
think is happening. They put it out there that they
were gonna draft Kyler Murray. Josh Rosen obviously became available

(38:15):
in Drade. They didn't get the type of offers that
they wanted first or a first round pick, really, but
you're not gonna get to the second round. So I
believe now they're putting it out there. You know what,
we love Rosen enough, We're forget Kyler Murray. We're building
around Josh Rosen. I think they're doing it to build

(38:37):
up his trade market, to have a team feel like
they're all in on Rosen. Now you're not gonna be
able to get him, and they're hoping somebody ups the
Anti maybe the Giants, maybe the Dolphins, so that they
can trade Rosen and go ahead and draft Murray. There's
the problem I have with that. If you know that
an executive of another team doesn't know that, Chris, if

(39:00):
you you just you just spelled it out. It's so simple.
And no, but I really want ros Oh No, If
I'm another team and I really want Rosen, then I
can't take that risk. I'm holding out because I know
just what you said about Kingsbury and the and the

(39:20):
and the past. There's nothing that you could tell me
that's gonna have me turn over first round pick when
I know that that there's a there's a possibility that
you could take them. So you're trying. But I but no, no,
I think I think no, I don't believe that. So
you think they aren't. I think you're gonna take Bosa.
I don't think. I don't think they're gonna take them. Wow,

(39:40):
I think Uh, I really don't. I think that they
thought about it, they flirted with it. Uh there's all
kinds of stuff that also goes with it with the
general manager who's there. I talked about it before. Uh
if if you just took the uh Rosen and now
you're doing this the next year and all that, you
gotta question you didn't think he you didn't think they
Uh you didn't think they draft Murray initially? I remember, No,

(40:05):
yeah I did. Look you already admitting you made the
mistake with the coach. Yeah, no, I know. I'm just
saying now that that story, get it right, that story
coming out like like they flirted with it, and the
guy Prisco said it. This is a guy's CBS. He's
he's been around. I mean, it's not I'm not it's
not supporting. It's not a fly by night you know
what I mean. Internet blog, somebody sitting on their mother's

(40:27):
couch in the basement putting this out there, and that's
why it's been getting a lot of play all over.
I don't know if you saw nfl uh live on ESPN,
Like they talked about it about boy and then they
I saw not mel Kiper the other guy's boy. Yeah,
I didn't have he didn't have Murray first, already have
Murray going. I think I don't know what he had him,
but I know he had Bosa. I looked at that

(40:48):
and I thought that was interesting that that off of that,
he's making a chain. Now. I thought that everybody had
Murray first. I'm just not sure that. I'm not sure
what Kiper still had. M Yeah, yeah he did. They
both were like three for thirty two ors. Yeah, no,
that were not good last year. Did you see that?
It was three or four and Mike Mayhock was even
worth Mike Malck was terrible. Lest All he did was

(41:09):
getting hit with That's what kills me is everybody's like, oh,
he's just draft genius. Really, they don't know Chris, they
don't know we They know as much as we know nothing.
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(41:35):
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get back to the NBA. I mean, there's so much
going on, and it's not all playoff related, Rob Parker

(41:57):
the Los Angeles Lakers, of course, out of the play
I'll still continue to make news, and a lot of
it is because of their dysfunctional ways. I'm sorry, Rob Ge,
big time Laker fan, that you are so one of
your favorites in mine. Magic Johnson, It's called on TMZ

(42:23):
this weekend, I guess ye talking about how he's basically
still involved with the Lakers. Quinn, let's hear it. Everybody
know I love the Lakers and so I'm always help him,
right like right now, I'm gonna still help him. You know,
I love my team, I love my franchise, and I
love the city. So you have to do things sometime

(42:43):
on your own terms, no matter what other people think.
See I'm that guy, but I'm still helping him. It's
almost like I've never left. I'm still talking to him
every day. Sir, you missed La. You've been missed La
my whole life. Well, I'm gonna help him get the
Lakers back, right, you can believe that? All right? Let
me let me, let me first say this, rob let
me before you go on. I just can't. I'm beside myself.

(43:07):
Let me just say this. None of us, I think
I can speak for you, none of us expected. I mean,
Magic is mister Laker, right, no doubt, and in the
Lakers help make him obviously who he is, so we
didn't expect him to all of a sudden cut ties

(43:28):
with the Lakers. Not like he has the right right.
He is the greatest Laker with all due respect to Kobe.
It's magic, so we get that. But this is going
too far. It just is from the standpoint of magic.
If if, if, if you're taking calls every day and

(43:49):
you're still talking to him, and you say you want
to help the way you quinn wat you walk away
and in the way the way which you didn't way
you made yourself to the story was a total distraction
to the end of the season. To compound what what
uh will hurt the franchise. From the standpoint Chris, that

(44:09):
they look at the front officers and disarray. Magic walked away.
Didn't even tell the owner right, just said I'm out.
So all of a sudden, Magic's gonna call me and
tell me that I should go to the front officer
to join that front office and that team. When he
walked away hisself, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. That's

(44:31):
why it's a bad look for Magic. It's a bad
look for the for the other franchise, it's bad Chris, No,
how are you? Here's the thing. The Magic is gonna
be recruiting. Like you said, who's listening to Magic? Recruit them?
When he walked away the way he did. Now, if

(44:52):
you want to use Magic, I don't even know if
I should say to close, but you know, you recruit
the free agent. Maybe it's to Lebron, Maybe the front
office talks to him. Whoever your head coach is going
to be talks to him. You've got it all but signed,
sealed and delivered. Then hey, would you like to talk

(45:12):
to Magic? We gotta Magic call you and Magic talk
to the guy about what it's like to be a Laker.
What it's like in La how you can help run
the city and the sow and so forth, bringing him
in as a closer, kind of like Jerry West did
with Kevin Durant when he went to Golden State. I
can get that, but Magic should not be involved in

(45:36):
the recruiting process. No. And then one of the free
agents asked him about Rob Polinka, gonna go, well, you
know that guy has some reputation and he's a backstabber.
And he's, oh, yeah, but you should come to the
Lakers anyway. I mean, what, how does that work? Because
nobody sort of nobody saw Magic's forty five minute press
conference what he left. Seriously, to your point, Rob, it

(46:00):
just makes the Lakers look that much more dysfunt. Yes,
it makes no sense. And this is on the heels
of a report in the La Times. I believe it
was Friday talking about how according to the report and
I have heard it myself as well talking to different
people close to the Lakers, they're not going to replace Magic.

(46:24):
Rob Pelinka is going to run the front office and
the scuttle butt. We'll see if it happens, but if
they're not bringing in somebody above Rob or even next
to Rob the Scuttle Buddies that it is going to
be Kurt Rambis. Here we go, Mom and Pop Central. Chris,

(46:45):
what do we keep talking about? Everybody's connected, everybody's interwoven,
everybody's a part of the Lakers. You better bring some
new people in. Everybody doesn't have to be with the Lakers.
Everybody doesn't have to have a history with the Lakers.
Stop it. You gotta sometimes go and get other people
to change things, Chris, to do things differently. That's good business.

(47:09):
It can't be incestual. They have we get what you mean? No,
you know what I mean. I know they have. They
are blowing this. They are blowing this. They should have
once Magic walked away. And as much as we love Magic,
we all knew Magic's an owner, not a president, right right.

(47:30):
He's the face of the franchise. You know, you're not
bringing him in to do the day to day work
of a president. So it was a blessing in disguise
that he walked away the way he did. You should
have from that moment forward been looking at a front
office that could really bring the Lakers back into or

(47:52):
into the twenty first century, one that had the infrastructure
of the teams today and hacked the team across the hall,
the LA Clippers. You should have went for Jerry West.
You should be talking to Messiah Jerry in Toronto, maybe
Sam Presty in Oklahoma City. I mean, at least try
for R. C. Beauford in San Antonio. You're the Lakers.

(48:14):
You're the Lakers. You're supposed to be able to try
for anybody. What what what Michael Winger who was gonna
get interviewed by Minnesota but he turned it down. He's
the assistant GM with the or the GEM with the Clippers.
You could have went to him somebody. I mean, but
you could have built it differently and still hired Tyler

(48:37):
a coach that relates to Lebron, but get a front
office that works independently. But no, it's still Simon pop
Central to use your turn it is. It really is
a way to look bad. Why didn't we hear when
LaMarcus Augers met with the Lakers they had no plan.
That thing was this is La Hollywood. Just I'm on

(49:00):
out look at all these banners and championship we have
and what about the future with moving forward? They had
no plan. They offered them sunshine instead of a basketball plan.
That ain't gonna cut it for a lot of gods
who are trying to win. No, it's looking bad. It
is looking bad for the La Lakers. And again, as

(49:21):
much as we love Magic and as much as we
believe he could should be connected to the Lakers, he
should not be talking to him every day. Why just
step away? I don't get it. Should not be consulting
the Lakers on basketball stuff. The Knicks do the same thing.

(49:43):
I know they're not Magic Johnson, but Larry Johnson, Latrell's free.
Well now you know they bring the players out and
they know they connected, yeah to the team, John Starks
and all that, But they're not talking to Larry Johnson
about personnel moves. Absolutely, What what what college games are he
going to and and scouting? You know what I mean?

(50:04):
That just there as ambassadors, former players who people recognize
and like and admire, and I get all that. The
trope people will help him get to the championship ninety nine.
People will never forget that Reggie Miller calling, uh the
Bucks and the Pistons Game four? You think the Pacers

(50:24):
are running personnel moves by Reggie Miller. No, He's the
best pacer ever. No, And I'm gonna be honest. Same
thing for Kobe. Thing for Koby. I'll tell you on Kobe,
no way, No, how would be as look if look,
well here's my point if Kobe. I do think Kobe

(50:44):
has the goods, if he wanted to commit to it
to be a good president. I tell you he's very intelligent.
He's a work he's a work, has a great work ethic,
he's a grinder. He understands the new technology, and I
mean he's into all that. But I think he would
be a great president if he wanted to do it.
But you're not gonna sit You're not gonna have it

(51:07):
both ways. Not none of the responsibility, none of the commitment,
none of the blood on your hands for the bad moves,
and you sit behind and you have puppet strings and
tell us what to do. No, we love you. You'll
be connected to it, you'll be our our other mister Laker.
But you're not gonna consult. You're not gonna tell us

(51:28):
how to run our basketball team. Here's why I say
no to Kobe. From this standpoint, the Lakers shouldn't be
a place that you're breaking in and getting people this
is what one of the biggest organizations in sports with
an unbelievable history, right, and this story, this is not
where you break in and learn how to be a general.

(51:49):
I'm sorry. Even if it's Kobe Bryant. If Kobe wants
to go to Orlando or whatever and get started there
and get some experience, and they bring him back Chris
or is a back see to a general managers, he
shows him the rope for a couple of years and
then Kobe takes over. Maybe I'm there. This franchise can't
afford to break in and unproven talent as a GM.

(52:12):
They have the worst record in the NBA to six years,
tied with the Knicks. Haven't made the playoffs since Moby
Dick was a guppy. No, no way, no how, all right,
Maybe if she's listening, Genie, what bust swallow your pride

(52:33):
and called Jerry West? Called Jerry West's it's called him,
swallow the pride. I know Lebron would love to have him.
In fact, Lebron called Jerry West two called Genie, say
you want Jerry? They need to bring in mister West.

(52:55):
Jerry West is eighty years old. Stop it with the
old men. Stop. He's a consultant for a reason. He's eighty.
Bring him in in as a consult Okay, I'm being
with the consulting or those president. I could make him
presidents day to day, an eighty year old. Stop it,
he's active. No, I'm fine with that. I'm just saying,

(53:16):
we go. We got Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are
running for president. They're seventy sevens. I believe if you
can run the nation, you can run the freaking Lakers.
And do you think running the Lakers is more taxing
than running America? Yes? And number two? Stop at number two.

(53:37):
Wake me when those guys are named president. All right, wait, wait,
how is Trump? He's up there seventy seventy seventies not
eighty thold. Come on, Chris, you're fifty. Trump's only twenty
years old. Fifty is different than seventy eight. I mean,
they need to do this is getting bad. I just

(53:58):
went to the Star. They should have had by the
end of this month. They should have their front office.
But not by the end of this month, but by
the end of May have your front office and your
coach in place, and then you can regret. It'd be

(54:21):
great if you do it by the end of this
month and then you can go out. So what's the
stage get some free agents? We did? We hear that
Tyrone lose having some issues with the front office, right,
I mean we're at the game. I'm bean the scuttle,
but just questioning, right, who's running things? What's going on? Right?
That's what we heard. Do I want to step into that?

(54:43):
I mean, it's it's just they're blowing it. They're blowing it.
Like like one of my favorite moments in sports when
Angelo Dundee told Thomas told Sugarade Leonard when he was
losing the Tommy Hearns and the first five you're blowing
the kid, You're blowing it. You're blowing it. And Sugar

(55:04):
Ray went out there and knock turns out, all right,
Is it time for the Lakers to cut all ties
with Magic Johnson? Rob Gee, We're not saying cut all ties? Yes,
temporarily Magic should be you just having be Magic. DM
basket should be running the basketball operations. No, we need

(55:24):
him to step back for a while because he quit
on the team. It's a bad look. And tell Magic
to go to Dodger Stadium and hang out there. I know.
Tell him to hang out there. He does better there,
even though they haven't won a World Series in thirty
one years. Either. All right, hit us up A seven
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we threw it out to you eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. What do you think about Magic still
like he said, to use his own words, He's like,
I never left, like I'm still there. But makes no sense.
You walked out, You quit in front of everybody, a

(56:52):
live press car farmer. Let's start with him and Bakersfield him.
What's going on? Tillas, love your show, love you show,
Thank you, budd. I think Magic Johnathan did all of
this on purpose, put it out there to publicly made
it be known that he quit on the Lakers. But

(57:13):
behind closed doors, he's gonna be working hard as to
be to bring every and any free agent, including pat
Riley or Jerry West, whoever it is, to put the
Lakers back to where they belong. Tind me, well, look
how to stop you that doesn't I would say this
if Magic, and if he was gonna go out there,

(57:37):
I don't want him trying to get players because I
just don't think that's gonna be beneficial to the franchise.
If he's talking to pat Riley or Jerry West and
gonna try to get them there, yeah, I'd be all
for that if I'm the Lakers, if I'm Magic. Behind
closed doors, he could have done it without Stebid. I mean,

(57:59):
I would like to think you're right, but I just
don't see that happening. I just I can't buy that.
I want to go to water Tony and DC Tony
and DCY with Chris and Rob It. What's up, Fella's
how y'all doing this evening? How are you? What's up?
You know? Chris? I'm glad you have no hard feelings
after what I said about robbing up last week. You
still my man? Fifty grand? But look you were just joking. No, no,

(58:25):
he was truth. That's my man. Used to fall back.
Go to Dodger Stadium, go to roscos, chick Chicken Waffles,
Disney Man, do something, man, But you know, you quit
on the team like Rob said, you know, and you
know this is the one person that's probably really enjoying
us is my man, Mike dan Toni because you remember

(58:47):
when Dan Tony got fired, Magic was the one tweeting everything,
happy days are here again and everything. So it's just
the calm man life. You put out the energy, you
get it back. I love Magic, He's like great icon.
But Magic you need fall back for a while. So
lets y'all say cool, All right, Tony, Let's go to
Jody in Atlanta. Jody One with the eye couple. Yo,

(59:09):
what's up, Chris and Rob? How y'all doing? Hey, I'm good,
I'm good. Um. But I want to say that everybody
in LA just needs to take a deep breath and
they just need to just start over. I think they
just need to cut it all up and just start
and scratch. Every since the Magic got there, he'd been
boasting them and boasting them and boasting them. But now
just look at him. They looked disgusting to me. I'd

(59:30):
rather be I'd rather be a Hawks band right now
than that Lakers fan with sixteen rings. You know what
I'm saying. No, I understand. I mean it looks bad.
It looks bad, and it doesn't look for me lately world,
that's where we live in, and everybody like you say, Chris,
you nailed it. Everybody loves Magic. He has a statue
in front of Staples Center. Everybody knows his contributions to

(59:52):
to the Lakers and what he did and all that.
But it makes no sense to quit on the spot
like it did and then say you're still behind this scenes, uh,
making things happen. It makes no sense. What about Matt
in Ohio? Matt, you're on the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Matty, what's up? Guys? What's happening? Hey? Hey,
Rob got alright, boy? Keep keep killing that guy for Michigan. Man,

(01:00:14):
you've keep been killing You've been killing Chris every day.
Oh there you go, my man, every Yeah, you an
Ohio guy. What are you talking about? He listens to me.
He listens to me in the old season. Yeah, Hey, listen, man,
I'm just telling you, like the buck, I had killed
the Wolverine. Sorry, Chris, but I mean I'm sorry Rob.
That that's what happens. He's been killing you. Uh. Hey.

(01:00:36):
So as far as Magic goes, though he's been wrecking
the Lakers for three years, they could have the Angelo Russell,
they could have Randall still, the roster could be good
enough to win right now. And every trade, every move
that Magic made, including getting lines on Paul, who's been
a joke. How you get last the last thing? I
want his magic out there going. Yeah, I'm still involved. Man.

(01:00:57):
He did get Lebron James. I think Lebron was coming anyway,
and they cleared the cap room to have room. I mean,
Paul George, I think he made a mistake. He could
have been with the Lakers, right, he didn't make a mistake. Yeah,
they made the playoffs. Okay, see the Lakers didn't. Lakers
with Paul George and Lebron would have been nice. Let's

(01:01:19):
go to Nick in New York. Nick's what's happening? Hey, guys, uh, borry,
you're lucky. I'm part of the Brew cruise on on
your side, all the Brew crew. That's what you got,
texted him. No, just go ahead, and Nick, so I
got an extra friend that chimes in every once in

(01:01:39):
a while. That's like, y'all, how are things going? Everything okay?
And it's like, yo, you you left on your own terms,
Like you don't get to do that like that. You
should not magic should not speak anything on the Lakers.
He wanted to speak on everything outside the Lakers. So
just do that. Don't you have no part with the Lakers.
Just like the act part of me? Just right, what

(01:02:03):
are you calling me for? You're my ads? Get away
from me. I'm about to be on opposite with me,
all right, Nick, let me say this before we go
to That was funny. Rob Parker likes to say that
we look like we're the same age we are when

(01:02:23):
I call him old you just as old me. No,
I'm not. Don't let the hair dive fool you. We
ought to say, and I am not. I have yet
to walk into a restaurant and have them give me
a senior discount. I solicited. Rob Parker just walked in
during our break to Al Polo Loco, right across the street,

(01:02:45):
and they didn't even ask him how old you are?
They just snuck in the senior discount. You're gonna just
out me like that on the radio? Is out in
you the night in the sweatshirt? The Jordans they did,
they don't faithful and nobody well, because my hair is
natural and if I didn't, if your hair was natural,
you're probably gonna see you. It's the eye goubble Fox

(01:03:11):
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good thing for the NBA? We got two time champion
and original bad boy Bill Lambier. He's got the answer next.
But first let's bringing Ralph Irvin for the latest in sports. Ralph,

(01:03:34):
what's happening? Well, they are playing in Detroit and Blake
Griffins out there. He's hobbling around, but he's making plays
for the Pistons. And right now Detroit with a twenty
to eleven lead and Griffin with four points so far
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(01:03:55):
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(01:05:24):
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which way is easier. Do you have any good Bill

(01:05:46):
Lambier stories from your time in Detroit? Yeah? I mean
Bill was it was successful as a coach with the
w NBA and the Shot w NBA. He's a three
time w NBA Championship coach, two time NBA champion and
of course with the Detroit Pistons, the original bad Boys.
And now he's the head coach of the w NBA's
Las Vegas Aces, Bill Lambier, Bill, what's happened? Welcome to

(01:06:10):
the odd Couple. That's us. We are odd, Bill like you?
Come on, We're like you and Isaiah the odd couple. Okay, well, Bill,
we was it Saturday? The Nets and the Philadelphia seventy

(01:06:31):
six has had a little francas uh that spilled into
the stands. You know back in your day that that
would have just been maybe a common Do you think
that the NBA is a little too soft? I know
they obviously want to stop the fighting and stuff with
good reason, But do you think there should be more
of a happy medium between the physicality of your day

(01:06:54):
and the finesse of today. Or you think they've got
it right where it is right now? That's a tough call. Yeah,
they've legislated over the years to trying to open the
court up because the players are bigger, faster, stronger, and
the court remains the same. So freedom of movement is
something that's very big to the NBA, and you know,
you gotta let that, let that go, I guess a
little bit, but you know, fis just today's world. Everybody

(01:07:20):
gets to upset about the littlest things. But you can't
even look at a guy like if you duncan look
at the guys a team, Well, they're trying to take
turning out of it also. But you know, sometimes you
gotta let the players be to play. It's an emotional game.
You gott do their things sometimes and that's what makes
fun for the fans. Bill, what about the ratings came
out after the first few games or whatever, and actually

(01:07:43):
the first round has been good to a few upsets
and whatnot, the Nets and the Clippers came back from
thirty one and stuff like that. But yet the ratings
were down twenty six percent. Is it? Is it all
Lebron James not being in the playoffs? Is it? Like, uh,
maybe people are hired of knowing that the Warriors is
gonna win as a chance to go to the finals

(01:08:04):
five years in the role. What do you put your
finger on that people tuned out so far in the
NBA playoffs on television back of big name stars. Probably
is one of them. You know, you get Lebron, Okay,
he's not in the playoffs this year, but you know
the rest of them, they're not. There's no household names anymore. Uh,
there are no teams that have like you know, everybody's

(01:08:26):
known by their first name or one one Moniker, So
return to you know, attach yourself because you know player
movement back and forth some other teams. That takes away
a sense of identity for some of the teams. People
are always comparing these Warriors, who are going for their
fourth title in five years, third straight, to the Showtime
era Lakers or the Jordan Bulls. You guys obviously were

(01:08:49):
in that era and one two straight beat all those
teams win three straight. I know the game is so
different now days, but can you how do you can
you even compare like your best teams to like what
you guys would do or how you would play against
the Warriors? Well, every team, every player thinks their generation

(01:09:14):
is better than the next one or the one after that.
That reality says that's not true. Players are bigger, faster,
stronger these two eighty five and six foot eight and
runs like the win that jumps out of the gym. Um.
So the game has changed more three balls more. You know,
we were all more intricate. Uh plays and and mid

(01:09:35):
range jump shots and and posts. H. So you know
it's changed as it changed for the better. That's what
the fans are along. We're not going to tell you
it's the eye couple. We joined by three time w
NBA championship coach, two time NBA champion as a player,
Bill Lambier. So, Bill, tell me about this new gig
with the Las Vegas Aces and the w NBA has

(01:09:58):
the league? Where's the league gone? And I mean you
had a lot of success in Detroit with the Shock
winning championships, but it has a w NBA grown progressed.
Uh the game gotten different or better? Or is it
still around the same. Uh, it's it's it's training dramatically.
When it first started out way back to win they

(01:10:20):
were the old timers. But you know now as the
game is matured in the twenty three twenty four seasons, now, Um,
the players are really good. Uh you know they they
grew up playing au basketball at eleven years old thinking
that they want to play professional basketball in the United
States and the NBA, So you know they've they've honed
their craft over the course of time. They're they're quality players.

(01:10:44):
Our league last year really took a pretty good jump
recognition wise. All of our ratings were up across the board,
from TV and revenue and the whole package because they
the quality of play and the competitiveness of play right
now is second to none it's ever been. Bill, Am
I wrong when I say, like when I look at

(01:11:04):
the w NBA and like the attendance issues or whatever,
I'm always still I blame women only because you're more
women than men. And I don't know how many women
are really going or or taking their boyfriends or their
husbands or the significant others. Do women support it in
enough the w NBA or am I missing missing the

(01:11:25):
boat here? They support it very well. We're not gonna
be like the men. This is not gonna happen you.
I'm not going to sell out. You know, eighteen thousand
seat arenas our arena size in Las Vegas. Right now,
we chucked down a little bit. We're at eighty five hundred,
which is a quality arena for our product, right, and
you know, it's a great environment and and it just

(01:11:47):
it works. You get in the big cabinets arenas. Everybody's
going away from that pretty much. Now there's a couple
of after meaning, but everybody else is in, you know,
right size arena and it's a lot of fun. It's
a difference between the men the women's games from a
fan perspective. We're more fun and a lot less expensive,
and so they enjoy it. You know, we're not for everybody,

(01:12:09):
but at the same time, we're growing pretty substantially. Build
in the future. Obviously you're all in on the aces.
But do you have any desire to coach in the NBA?
But I did way back when, Unfortunately I didn't get
my opportunity as a head coach coach of the system
for a couple of years. But I'm gonna be sixty
two next month, and there's a lot of work in

(01:12:30):
the NBA, A lot of the days very well, I
get to that point. But I enjoy doing what I'm doing,
and I don't think I could gear it up and
crank it up for the grind of the men's league anymore.
So let's pass my time. What's the difference in just
coaching women versus men? Obviously, I mean, they're obviously both
skilled in some of the same ways, but I think
there's probably big differences too. Maybe the athleticism, dunking, whatever.

(01:12:54):
What's the difference in coaching the two? You think besides
the fact I can't go to the locker room when
I want to the uh, the the athleticism of the
man yet that they can make a mistake and come
right back and and make up for that mistake with
their athleticism and makes some great play. The women are
much more fundamental. Uh. They're to find one five basketball

(01:13:17):
game where the men are, you know, two on two
or one on wound. A lot we play five on five,
both offensively and defensively. Uh. So that's that's one of
the big differences. And I think that's the best difference
between the NBA and I mean, the women listens soon
as guys to um. They want to be coached, they
want to learn, they want to grow, they want the

(01:13:38):
sport to grow. Uh, and they care about the league,
not about just the money. Right. Hey, there was one
of the story I want to ask you about Russell
Westbrook was kind of being criticized for the way he
deals with the media. Is some columnists in uh in
Oklahoma City. You mean to cornostate you guys. Yes, I
know who. Well, that's why I want to That's why

(01:14:00):
I'm going to ask you guys, you know how And
even Steve Kerr said, you know you gotta you gotta
know how to deal with the media. And this is
my point, Bill, as you the way maybe you dealt
with the media when you're a younger player, compared to
how you deal with it now, do you do you
have you got a better understanding of what we do?
And uh or no, no, not not even after all

(01:14:24):
these years. No, no, no, right now, as as a
representative of management, I have to tolerate you guys. Come on, Bill,
I was about myself. I wasn't about self promotion stuff
like that. So the hardest part about some of the
of the media back then, I sue, it's to say, say,
you guys never changing stripes. Um, you ask some of

(01:14:47):
the dumbest questions, right, but you never know what answer
you're gonna get. Well, y'all, sometimes good get good answers,
and you know, and you try to say, here's you
try to paint the narratives and get the point to
respond to your narrative instead of asking him a question
and then tell us the question to answer it. Bill
used to say this, Uh, that wasn't a question, like

(01:15:09):
when people were making a statement to him. All right,
Bill would exactly, I would say, what what's what's the question? No?
And I think that that's fair if if a player
says that to you because you haven't asked a question,
you got to ask a question. I think you have
to ask a question, not make a statement and look
for him to endorse it or not, because that's what
you guys know that happens all the time. No, yeah, yeah,

(01:15:31):
no doubt Bill. I'm gonna throw this out. You're one
of the few people that can say you you beat
Michael Jordan. I mean, you guys had your way with
him for a few years. How many times? Over and over? Yeah?
But pretty yeah, over and over here now and obviously
you have great respect for him and know he's a
great player, but he is viewed now as the undisputed goat,

(01:15:56):
like I'm just the greatest player. Time, come on, well,
the most immediat when you hear that, what's your own
personal opinion? That's mine, But we're joined by a lot
of people. All right, who do you got, what's your
who do you have? And what do you think of?
You know of Jordan kind of being that that guy
that consenses almost right now, No, I'll think Lebron James

(01:16:20):
every day the way. Now, why because he came into
the league involving his teammates from the start at eighteen
years old. He understood how to play team basketball, both
offensively and defensively from day one. Um Jordan had to
learn that. That's why they recalled Michael Jordan the Jordanaires. Uh.
He never got his teammates involved like the Brian did

(01:16:41):
at an early age. Now, you know, if you go
by number of championships, Okay, Michael Jordan's got more championships,
but no one has single handily done with Lebron's John.
I mean, he's he's had some bad teams and got
him the finals. So I think he and Pus he's
six eight two five runs like the wind and jumps
out that you. I mean, what if he was in

(01:17:04):
our in our generation, he would have been by far
the greatest thing year for someone your entire in the
whole world. Strong and that good and that's smart. That's
one of the things. He's smart when he came in
at eighteen and do what to do. Some thing's never changed.
Those pistons will never give us. Do not call George.

(01:17:26):
It's all good. Bill will appreciate it. And good luck
on your new gig. Right he will be watching the
new coach of the Las Vegas Aces. And uh, we're
gonna check you guys out. Bill. Good luck, Bill. If
you need any kind of man, let me know. I'll
help you out. Goodbye. All right, it's the hottest radio
game how about that. No, but you're not buying it

(01:17:49):
because Pistons and the and the Jordan thing. Gop I'm serious. Nah,
you remember they walked off the court when they finally
beat them, Soziah was kept off the dream. I'm telling
you never know he should have been. They'll never give
him that, all right, all right, it's the hot and
because Isaiah says Lebron too. Yes, that's what I'm trying
to tell you. That's why it's the hottest radio game

(01:18:10):
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All right, you tuned into the Eye Couple, Chris brus
Are and Rob Park and we have got some breaking news,
breaking news from Fox Sports. Yeah, it's interesting story. After
what had been an interesting time with Luke Walton with
the Lakers than him being released and hired by Sacramento.

(01:18:57):
Now he's being sued for sexually assaulting a wan who
claims he forced himself on her in his hotel room.
In legal documents obtained by TMZ, Kelly Tenant claims that
in May twenty seventeen, she went to his hotel in
Santa Monica to discuss a book she was writing. Says
the two in a business relationship going back several years,
and Walton invited her back up to the room and

(01:19:17):
then well, forcibly, well let's just say he was aggressive
with her before eventually relenting and letting her up from
the bed. All right, Ralph, Why Ralph, what is breaking news? Yes,
thank you man. This is uh, this is huge news
if it's true. Yeah, even if it's nice. I mean,
he's being accused of it. So it's always a tough

(01:19:39):
big news. Yes, it's always one of those tough things
because you get into a situation. Obviously they have paperwork
on it. So she filed a claim and with the police,
and now she's right, she's suing him and whatnot. This
will be interesting to see how it plays out. He
just got hired up in Sacramento. I'm sure they're not
too crazy about the news. They got a new coach, right,

(01:20:01):
I mean, and again a man guilty. So nobody's saying
that he's guilty. We don't know, we weren't there. We
can't get into all that. But this is a public record,
so that's why you can discuss it. It's public record.
It's just unbelievable, I mean, considering all that has gone
on with the Lakers, considering all that's gone on with Luke,

(01:20:25):
I mean all year long, his job, you know, it's
rumored to to be you know, up like he's gonna
get fired. Ultimately he does part with the organization accepts
another job. He's a hot young coach. I mean that
you saw that by how quickly he got another job.
And uh man, this is just uh shocking, shocking, and nothing,

(01:20:52):
nothing surprises me anymore. I'm one of these old guys.
We've been around for a long time, Chris, and you
finally admitted, you know that one of these I don't
I shouldn't get a senior discount. How dare that chicken
met act like it's your first all right, but on
this story at least once a week. But I'm saying here,
we've seen these stories like just keep coming no matter

(01:21:14):
what has happened, Guys getting in a situation before the
domestic violence, people lost their jobs, whatever, and they just
doesn't stop. It doesn't like like it never happened, Chris,
do you know what I mean? Yeah, And she's claiming
what May twenty seventeen, so that obviously if that's a
recent time, that's two years almost two years ago. See,

(01:21:38):
he was coaching the Lakers at that time. Well they
were out of the playoffs, so they weren't. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
he was the Lakers coach. Wow, you just uh, it's
it's it's just something you gotta what you in a
situation like this, at least my tax take is right.
You just hope that justice. Is that all you hope

(01:21:59):
that comes out. And a lot of times the problem
with these situations are very tough because as he said,
she said right, and you don't have it. This never
Chris sounds like it's a total He says, he's no
third person in the room to beat there. That's why.
That's why you need like a witness. But most things
don't happen in front of witnesses, they don't, right, So
it's one of those tough spots, that's all. And that's

(01:22:21):
how you have to deal with it. Yep, all right,
it's the Eye Coup of Fox Sports Radio. Keep it
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(01:22:47):
has a three zero series lead over to Troy, but
right now the Pistons up forty two thirty six just
in the side of seven minutes to play in the
first half. Reggie Jackson with nine points, as does Blake Griffin.
Andre Drummond with eight already for the Pistons as they lead.
Breaking from TMZ Sports, Luke Walton being sued for allegedly
sexually assaulting a woman back in May of twenty seventeen,

(01:23:10):
this stemming at an incident from an incident at his
Santa Monica Hotel. Major League Baseball action going on right now.
Kansas City with a three two lead at Tampa Bay
in the seventh, the White Sox leading at Baltimore for
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(01:23:54):
We've got Marcus Thompson, who covers the Golden State Warriors
for the athletic coming up. He's out all the insight
into the two time defending champion, So you don't want
to miss that. And there's some breaking news that came
out about thirty minutes ago on TMZ dot com and
they Luke Walton has been sued for sexual harassment by

(01:24:18):
a female sports reporter. Her name is Kelly Tennant and
she claims back in May of twenty seventeen that Luke
forced himselves on her before eventually relenting. And so, like
I said, Rob, it's just a situation. You just hope
the truth comes out and justice is served. That's that's

(01:24:41):
all you can ask for, say at this point, really,
and you can't pass judgment. You don't know what's happening yet.
Here's a whole, right, there's a whole procedure that goes on,
and I just you have to take it as what
it is. Is a suit's been filed and there's paperwork
on it and there's some details that what went down, right,
and that's really what it yep yep. And so so

(01:25:02):
we're gonna move on, Uh, stick with an NBA related topic,
and it is about Russell Westbrook and Paul George and
they are struggling there down three to one. It's a
team they had beaten Portland four times in the regular season,
four and oh they were in the regular season against
the Blazers. But they have been outplayed dramatically from top

(01:25:24):
to bottom, everyone from Westbrook and George to the bench players,
the supporting cast in the starting lineup hack Terry Stotts
is out coached Billy Donovan. It's just been the Portland
Trailblazers show in this first round. To the point rob
which I don't agree with this, but to the point
where Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley on T and T

(01:25:48):
are saying they think Portland could get to the finals,
which I think is look respect to Lillard and Damian
Lillard and CJ McCollum. I don't see that team beating
Houston Old or Golden State. No, I don't either, But
I get it, you know, I mean, how much fun
is it for them to just say the war is
gonna win and you know what I mean, and saying

(01:26:08):
the same thing over and over and putting some different
angles out there. You know, if they're right, then I'll
be the first one to say the ain't no more
than me. But I don't see that. And you know,
in those situations a lot of time they just they
they're talking about a lot of different things, throwing out
different things, and they got kind of go with the
wind depending on what's happening. And whose hottle looks good
right now? Does Portland look good? Chris? Absolutely, they do good,

(01:26:31):
but they don't look better than Golden. I agree with you.
I just agree with you. But then again, you know
what I mean. You thought, Okay, so was going to
the finals, say throwing that what finals? The Conference Western Converence?
That's what I meant. Yeah, Yeah, I don't think so.
And you thought Brooklyn was gonna be Philadelphia and came

(01:26:52):
in here with your ut were gone to that? We
go down yea, or probably try to run out of
here before I can. I got time to with you
to the woodshed for that pick. But let's stick with
Westbrook And Uh. He's got this running problem few with

(01:27:16):
Barry Trammell, a columnist in Oklahoma City, and he doesn't
answer any of his questions. When Trammell asked him a question,
he just says, next question. Although he had he did
give him a little something more yesterday here here's the
exchange Barry Trammel with the Oklahoma You guys did a
great job on Littard in the first half. He didn't
score until the last seventy five seconds and a half.

(01:27:39):
Were you please with the defense you played on him?
And how did it change when when he got going
in the third quarter. Oh, that's a good question. Um,
I'm not sure. I mean, honestly, like that. I thought
we talked about that today on Undisputed. I thought that

(01:27:59):
was progress. He could have just said, next question, next way.
I mean he gave him something I could play with that.
I mean, honestly, I could write a hole. No, you
could not stop it on that hold on, Yes, Yes,
yes I could and would know I was a writer.
It wouldn't It wouldn't appear in the New York Times. No,
I could write a good column on that. Okay, here

(01:28:20):
is the problem. City Thunder, their star superstar point guard
doesn't know how to stop Damian Lillard. It's a good question.
I'm not sure. You need to be sure. In the playoffs,
you've got access to all the video tape. You can

(01:28:42):
focus on this team solely. It's not the back to back,
it's not the third game in five nights. You know
you're you got all the time in the world to
focus on Damian Lillard. The coaches are telling you all
of his tendencies. You can watch game film. What else
you got to do? This is what the entire season

(01:29:04):
is about. And you're not sure you should know he
likes to take two dribbles to his left and pull up.
I'm just saying, but you know, you should know he
likes to one dribble to the right, spin move two
more dribbles and then he's pulling up with a float
or whatever. I could. I could have wrote a dope

(01:29:24):
column and then people would It would be a little
bit tongue in cheek, but I could run with that
column and then they would run it in the Iowa
City Press Citizen. But that, you know, that would get run.
That would that's where they would run that column. It
would get run. Here's my here my thing with the
whole media thing. And of course we've both been in
his business a long time and I've been through it all.

(01:29:47):
I've had players mad at me, don't want to talk
to me. Uh, no one's ever raised their hand to me,
but they've been like, you know, like chest the chest. Yeah,
I've had people like that to me. Sure, Uh scared, Nah,
never scared. I told you the worst was lu Pernella.

(01:30:09):
Walter Barry was another. But lu Pinnella was red hot
at me and was mad and I'm talking about like
breathing fire down my back and he runs. I wrote
a story the players, uh, players were not having fun
playing for Luca Los a very intense guy. So the
headline was something like sweet lou uh turned sour and

(01:30:30):
it's these players and most and almost all the quotes
are anonymous because the players don't want to put their
names to it. So I think it's a big enough
story where I'm gonna trust in them because I talked
to enough of them and I believed in what they
were telling, and they showed me examples. They gave me
all the stuff, and I put it all in the column.
So we're in Saint Louis and I got my back turn.

(01:30:51):
I'm interviewing a player. Lu Ponnella runs out of his office, Chris,
and at the this is a Sunday morning, guys are
getting dressed in the club house. Top of his lungs,
get your m fing in my office right right now,
everybody stops. It's quiet. So here's a moment of truth

(01:31:13):
for me, right right right? Players want to see what
are you gonna do? So I turned around slowly Chester
Chess looked right in his eye, and I say, excuse me,
do I have a red uniform on? I was grabbing
my clothes. I don't work for you. I work for
the Cincinnati Enchoir. And if you have an issue and

(01:31:33):
you want to talk about it, I'll talk about it.
But screaming and telling me to get in your office,
I ain't going nowhere. He said, all right, I apologize.
Can we have a conversation and whatever whatever? Wow, I
handled it. Yeah, I'm twenty seven years old, Chris, you
know what I mean. I'm a young guy in five
years in the business. So I had I had a

(01:31:54):
lot online right there. And my point is, and there's
my point about this whole thing. And then we wound
up talking everything. Me and Lou wound up really being
good and close. But here's my thing. When players do that,
they think that they're respecting us, yes, and what they
don't understand. And I don't know why players don't understand,

(01:32:16):
you're dissing the fans. We're there. We're kind doing we
Your fans can't get into the clubhouse to talk to you,
to interview you. We're trying to find out what they want. Chris,
it doesn't matter to me and you if you don't
want to talk. I covered the Reds for half a
season without ever talking to Rob Dibble. Rob didn't want

(01:32:36):
to talk to me. Right, Fine, you know what I did, Chris.
I talked to other people. I talked to the catcher.
I talked to the manager. I talked to his teammates.
I talked to opposing players. Tell me how nasty is
stuff was? I got around it. I didn't have to
talk to him because I was still trying to get
the story that fans wanted to know about how good
Rob Dibble was as a closer. Right, I need the

(01:32:58):
same thing with Stephan Marbury. We had we had a
run in. He didn't get up. No, I've never had
a player or coach get up in my chest or
you know, just come at me like that. But Marbury
stopped talking to me because it's something I wrote, and uh,
he didn't talk to me for about two thirds of
a season. And it didn't hurt me because I was

(01:33:20):
getting all the quote, you know, and there's other writers there,
and he wouldn't answer any questions I asked. But I
got all the answers I needed for my stories from
you know, other questions that other guys asked and he
answered and it didn't change my coverage, you know, like
when he did something positive and it knocked it up,
and I began to write. I was writing, you know

(01:33:41):
when he did while I was right, you can't make
it personal, right, I thought he should have made the
All Star team that year, and I wrote it, and uh,
he began to see that, I believe because then eventually
he started talking to me, answered my questions. We talked
about it cool, you know, and everything was cool. And
now it's been a love hate from there. But we

(01:34:02):
we you know, we made up um and yeah, so
it is what it is. But you're right. And when
I look at Westbrook, I don't think he looks good
doing this. No like I like Russell Westbrook. I've you know,
we've talked about it. Sometimes some of these run ins
with fans, he's justified, but it just but this look,

(01:34:23):
this does not make him look good. This looks you
look small. You really, Chris, I'm with you and people
always most fans are like, oh, but the media, no, no,
no, no no, no, dude, we're here for you. We're here
for you. You You got it all twisted and us fact

(01:34:45):
is too. And and look what these guys do, all
the athletes, it's tremendous. They're they're blessed with great talent
and skill. Yes, I don't want to take anything away
from them and that, But if it weren't for the media,
I'm talking about television putting their games everything right, radio
us talking about them all day, every day on television, radio,

(01:35:11):
podcasting on it, you would not be nearly as big
you You still be as great, but you wouldn't be
as big as you are, and you wouldn't make the
millions you may go on and at the end of
the day robbing. You know this as well as anybody you,
The media have the final say. We always have. Our
careers are longer than yours. We're gonna be around. I

(01:35:34):
got thirty three years in a nobody's playing career last
thirty three years. We can write whatever we want, we
can say, you know, go on TV, say whatever we want.
And you and I, like we've said, we keep it objective. Yes,
but everybody doesn't you you some guys and then whether
it's right or wrong, some guys, if you you go
at them like that unfairly, it's going to hurt you.

(01:35:56):
We vote for Hall of Fame all there's a lot
of play once they're all done, and they don't get it.
And not that you have to cow town anybody yourself, right.
And now the other thing, Chris, that you find out
too is all these guys who want to be in
the media and it's just weird, Like people who like

(01:36:18):
like Rob Dibble wound up to being in the media.
He was a guy who had a hard time dealing
with media and then he wound up being in the media.
And I just it's I see guys like that and
I find that to be uh even what you call it.
Chandon's brother, Sterling Sharp wasn't a big media guy when
he was a player and he got into the media. Yeah,
it happens, and it's just not Look again, if it's

(01:36:42):
a legitimate situation, maybe talk to that writer and see
if you can hash it out. And it but it
just it doesn't make Westbrook look good. No, but it's
not really. And even the organization, the organization too. They
should talk to him. They should talk to him and
say it's just not because they enabled him. And then
when Durant was there too to do this, yea, and

(01:37:04):
not challenged him all. And that's why I wouldn't remember
Durant got them to write a retraction on a headline there.
I mean that I should have never happened. Chris, that's
a small town. That's a small Can you imagine the
New York tip on the Daily News taken back a
backpage headline? Please? It would have been you. It would
have been another headline even next day. Right, all right,

(01:37:24):
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All right, we threw it out to you. How you
feel about how Russell Westbrook's been treating the media of
a more specifically very Trammell of the Oklahoma not answering
this question, Rob and I don't think he looks good

(01:38:52):
by doing this, understand like like like he's not dis
in the media, he's just the fans that our job
is for you guys, it's side we don't take out.
You don't want to talk to us, fine, you know
what I mean. I'll go to somebody else, well, especially
a column that's like Barry Tremble. I need you to that.

(01:39:13):
I don't need a court from you. Now. The beat
writer needs Christ the guy writing the column, he can
do whatever he wants. All right, Let's go to luis
in Las Vegas, Luisia with Chris and Rob was happening?
Oh boy, what's up? Fellas? What's up? Rob? I know
you lying because I remember you being the first reporter

(01:39:33):
when the NBA integrated in nineteen fifty. Must stay love
y'all than you know you guys hit the ball out
of the park a minute ago when you got said
of the best. It's a tough situation. But not everybody's
like you, Fellas, where they can hold back, understand and

(01:39:54):
maybe reward their questions and so on. Some are pushing,
but without them, without the media, without us or other
TV and US getting those Adita commercials and Nike and
so on, there is no fat paychecks for these guys.
Brook has a right, but I think we all understanding.
You kind of get sensitive in certain aspects. Now, Homie
from the Oklahoma he's big time. If you look him up,

(01:40:15):
he's been writing for a while, so you gotta give
him some respect because he's hometown. So the biggest thing
I would like to see between those two cats. And
I'm a Spurs friend, so you know, I don't even
like the thunder, but they got to keep it professional,
come together, talk it out, and me like, hey, you're
coming at me this way, I'm coming at you this way.
Let's find a meeting ground to where we can respect
each other. Right, I'm to handle it like two grown men.

(01:40:39):
It's as simple as that, you know, and nobody lives
in a vacuum, nobody. We all sometimes have to do
things we don't want to do. I'm not saying Coyle
towl and sell out, but you sometimes you have to
answer questions or go somewhere you just don't feel like
doing it, but do it all right, It's about being professional.
Let's go Tony and Fresno, California. Tony, you're out with

(01:41:04):
Chris and Rob. What's happening, guys, what's you? I'm doing good? Thanks.
I just listened to the program, and listen. I'm not
particularly a Russell Westbrook fran but the truth is, I don't.
I mean, you never hear anybody complain when Bill Belichick
cites steps the question, well, when he decides to avoid
it gets a non issue, and as soon as Russell

(01:41:26):
Westbrook does it, everybody comes down on him. I think
it's just a little bit of a double standard. I
think about Tony. Bill Belichick's been taken uh to task
about his question and in Cleveland and Cleveland he got killed.
I think that's a big part of why he lost
his job. Yes, he was terrible to the media, definitely
disliked him. He was the same as evil is in

(01:41:49):
New England, but without the results and without the results.
And when you don't have results and people are asking
you questions and you're ducking, sometimes guys get away with
it a little bit more because he's one, and it's
hard to second guess a question to guy who's won
as much as he has. Does that make it right? No,
but it's tougher now, I will give you Tony. Tony
makes a good point, though, you know, I mean Belichick,

(01:42:13):
I don't know that he's I mean sometimes I'm sure
he said next question. But even with Russ Book's little
answer the other yesterday, that's a good question. I don't know.
That's something better than no comment. And they have a
right to say whatever no comment ever, right to say
no comment or whatever. Bright, but I and I think

(01:42:33):
I bring up another coach, Gregg Popovich, Like when you
do the end game interviews with him, you know they
were bad. Yeah, And I did him with him. He
never was rude to me, but I didn't give you anything, no, no,
But he was rude to other reporters at times. I'm
not saying he has some special affection for me. I
just might have got lucky, whatever the case. But he

(01:42:55):
was rude to report. And here's the thing. Anytime, and
because here are people that said, well, he doesn't like
the whole being interviewed during the game and all that stuff.
But anytime an ex player or coach, like if if
they didn't have a sideline reporter and they had to
send Jeff Van Gundi or Charles Barkley or you know,

(01:43:15):
somebody to do the interview, he always was fine. You know,
he gave him a better answer, maybe laughed a little, right. Right,
If you can do it with the ex player or
thank you, you can do it with the media. And
that's the whole thing. You can't like pick and choose
right and decide. Oh wall and I think he looked
bad too, right, He didn't look bad. You know, you

(01:43:37):
up here, you know giving all this and and you
know I don't disagree with some of his the things
he says politically, but you all, you up here doing
all this, making all these judgments, but you don't treat
the reporters that cover your team with respect. I get that.
I get that. Let's go to David in Miami. David,
you're on with the Eye Couple. Hey, guys, I totally

(01:43:58):
disagree with you. If he were winning, this won't even
be a topic. I'm an old time guy. I grew
up with the Knicks. The guy that I hated the
most growing up was Bill Russell. Why because he was
the best player I ever saw in my life, okay,
bar none, and whenever he came to the Garden and
he beat the crap out of my Knicks, I hated him. Okay,

(01:44:22):
but I would take him on my team in a heartbeat.
If the if the he could get Westbrook down here,
I would take him in a heartbeat. I heard this
guy Colin today. He must have spend twenty five or
thirty minutes every day just blasting this guy. Well, no
criticize his play. Sounds like a guy. No, you know

(01:44:43):
we're talking right now, we're talking about the media. We're
just talking about him with the media, right and and
that's the point. And this is the point, David, and
you why him. It's not about that. A heartbeat, guys
and a heartbeat. No, I get that. But I'm just
saying what a guy doesn't deal with the media or
does what he does, he's not hurting us. We're gonna

(01:45:06):
do our job regardless. We're there for the fans. It's
it's a disrespect to the fans who want to know
what happened in the game and want to hear from
their star. It ain't about me and Chris, I don't care.
Let me ask you questions if they were winning out there,
do you think the fans in Alcohoma City really care
whether or not he's talking to the media or yes,
because that means he's not talking to them. Oh guys

(01:45:31):
to see him play. No, but I still you still
want to read about what the what went into it. Yes,
there's a whole thing. That's why people watch interviews and
all that television. I get. I get what you're saying.
It doesn't mean that they're not going to show up
to the games. But they want to read about it,
all right, You want to get the insight from the player.
And you're right, like a ton of fans watch those

(01:45:51):
postgame interviews games, yes, and the interviews and all that.
You're saying, all right, we aren't the only ones taking
issue with Russell Westbrooks treatment of the media. Marcus Thompson
from The Athletic will explain next, but first let's bringing
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is figuring out which way is easier. And we love
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reporters out there, particularly on the on the Golden State Warriors,
but really just period he writes for the Athletic Marcus
Thompson the second What's happening. Brother, what's up going on? Man?
You don't you don got formal one. He's been writing

(01:48:48):
the same story for the last five years, you know
what I mean? Hey, Wing? Then it used to be
Marcus Thompson the second. It's always been that way, but
you know, always. But now some people are just like, oh,
he's the second. Now. I think it's because I'm an author.
They're like, oh, now it's the second, Like I got
my pinky out while I'm now I'm saying, I'm like, yo, now,

(01:49:10):
all of a sudden, this is the second. I get
it though, you come up, You've come up. No, I
was the second when I was writing high school girls
across stories. You know what I'm saying, Like a second,
I did high school uh not field hockey. Those were
my first time I was worried about what he was
gonna say. Marcus, it was no. No, you was worried too.

(01:49:32):
What lork at you you too? Let's get let's get
to it quickly. I'm gonna ask because we were just
talking about Russell Westbrook and his dealings with the media. Uh.
Steve Kerr has some pretty strong words on it that,
obviously I think most media people would agree with um.
What do you make of kurs comments and just his mentality?

(01:49:54):
How do how do Warriors? I mean, we've seen k
D kind of go at media media guys before, but
how the Warriors who are all being pretty good with
the media. Yeah, they are pretty good with the media,
even even Kevin Durant Uh. I think I think it's
high time somebody called Westbrook out right, that's number one,
because clearly he's not getting called out a global city.

(01:50:16):
And I don't even really mind having that one like
Kurt mudgeon dude, right, who just don't talk like I
got it. But it's the playoffs. This is national, Like
even we asking our questions, we gotta we gotta watch
how we are asking the questions because it's national, right, Yeah,
so you gotta check like everybody gotta like adjust to this,

(01:50:38):
and he's just gonna be Kurt Mudgeon Lee. But the
part that I don't like is that even no matter
y'all have been in the same locker room, so you
already know when you got beef. I don't know a
player who don't even try to work it out and
you won't even talk to the dude Like that's the
part where it's like, come on, now, you just being
extra right because he can say, hey, you wrote this
and I don't like this, and maybe you know, very

(01:51:01):
Trammell doesn't budge and now you got beat. But he
won't ever talk to the guy. But nobody knows what
it's about. And for me, that's just it's just unprofessional. Really,
that's I don't know the way to say it. Now.
You got a new book called Kad coming out about
Kevin Durant. It'll be released May fourteenth. Uh, it's available
right now for pre order on Amazon. But Kyd was

(01:51:24):
you know, when he was in Oklahoma City, he was
kind of viewed like Westbrook is too. As far as
his dealings with the media. Now, it seems like he'll
talk to everybody you know on their podcasts and stuff
like that. So what do you think I mean in
your research for the book, was there any type of
change of mindset with Durant or what do we attribute

(01:51:45):
that to? Man? I think I think it was. And
you know, I'm gonna use this word just because I
don't know, but I think the just to transition from
Oklahoma City to the Warriors was traumatizing for him by
the amount of criticism and venom he got, and he
just emerged a different person. Like that's just a bottom line.
He's much more he's much more hard on the exterior.

(01:52:08):
He's much more ready to like go back and forth
for you. We saw some of that coming from him
before he even left. But I do feel like with
Durant and other players too, there's just a general frustration
about how they how their stories get portrayed and the
criticism that comes out. I just don't think they can
handle that. It's so much media, and you know, personally,

(01:52:28):
I get a little tired of hearing about the media.
I'm always fair to these dudes, Right, if I got
something hating negative, I gotta say, I'm gonna come to
you and be like, here's what I'm writing. You want
to comment, like I go about my business properly. I
know you did too. You know what I'm saying both
of y'all. And he's shady, like I can't control what's
something blogger do, But like you know, I'm let me

(01:52:50):
be accountable for me. You know what I'm saying, Like
don't don't don't go do it all this all the media.
I ain't never I've never been shading to you, So
don't try to pay me with that. That's that's the
only part. I thought we'd beaty that with it, like
hold on, hold on trying to do the right way.
Can I get a little bit of love instead of
getting hated on all the time. Well, my book is
coming out at Christmas time and it's called If I'm writing,

(01:53:11):
I'm ripping. So that's his motto. Yo, I'm man, Can
I write the four? Because I think I might be
grown enough to get where you at. I used to
get old enough. You don't even care no more. Yeah,
that's where it is, man, I don't care. But anyway,
let's talk about the Warriors and obviously that come back

(01:53:33):
by the Clippers. What did that do? What was what
was that like in the arena the fans? How shocking
because that was one of the best basketball games I've
ever watched, I mean at the end and just how
it played out. What was the reaction in Oakland. I'm
gonna say this right, and I know it's gonna sound
crazy because one because we talk about the first round

(01:53:55):
Game two, but yo, it felt like Game seven when
Kyrie hit that, Like it was that same kind of
vibe where no way, they're gonna lose. Of course they're
gonna of course they're gonna win. Of course they're gonna win.
Oh my god, they're gonna lose. It was just like, ye,
are you serious right now? And it just it wasn't
like that, like gut rinching, like you could tell the

(01:54:17):
fans were just like wow. It was more anger, Like
I remember a Game seven was like you couldn't believe
what just happened because that team just never really lost
like that, And this time it was like here they
go again. They were really good. They really bring it
regular season malays. In the playoffs, it was more like
anger or frustration. And I think it them too like that.

(01:54:39):
I think they were like, all right, y'all, that's cool playing.
Maybe we got to turn it up a little bit
earlier than we thought. They obviously in the next round
they're gonna meet Houston if everything goes, you know, according
to the way it's been so far. Is their concern
within the organization, maybe within the locker room as to

(01:54:59):
this matchup, because obviously we know what happened last year
with Houston taking them the seven, even without Chris Paul
in the last two games, being up three two and
Houston looks great so far. So what is their view
of the Rockets at this point. I think they have
or like respect for them then they did last year period,

(01:55:19):
because before last year when into the series, they just
regularly whooped up the Rockets right then beat them twice
before in the playoffs. Obviously it was without Chris Paul,
but they just weren't that afraid of Harden. I do
think the way the Rockets play them last year and
how they look now, they know it's like, all right,
let's set up in our chair, right, let's let's let's

(01:55:39):
play this right. And I do think they're like, look,
if we just played, they can't beat us. You know
what I'm saying. It's if they start to invite in
the drama and if they do all that stuff, and
maybe you get an injury, maybe not a major one,
but like a quote unquote minor one like Andrew Gondollar,
which is really major, but he's not, you know, he's

(01:56:00):
not an All star, Like it's gonna take something like that.
I think they kind of know it, but they definitely
respect them. I remember being used to locker room before,
you know, and it's like when they don't really respect
these dude, they don't think they're that good. Now, I
think they think they're pretty good, but I do think
they're they feel like that wasn't the series, how about

(01:56:20):
the whole I mean, it seems like all throughout the NBA,
a lot of the scuttle button talk behind the scenes
is that Kd's going to the next the foregone conclusion.
What do people feel like in Oakland with that though?
Are they comfortable with it? They they've heard it too
and they accept it or not? Yeah, I think so.
I think. I think mostly there's just like a KD

(01:56:40):
free agency fatigue, right like, and I can you can
see it. We can see it in our stories, like
you write about it, either in the comments or in
the number of people who read it. It It just it
doesn't have the same But I think people are just
tired of it, man. This they're like year three, you
know what I'm saying, them not knowing well, definitely year two,
not knowing what Katie's gonna do. People are just tired

(01:57:01):
of it. And there's like a movement to just like
enjoy the season because like we can you imagine if
he came back for one more one year deal, Like,
I don't I feel like that they would just break
off of being an island just because they can't take
the frustration. So every people are just tired of. It's
just an old storyline that they're just fatigued about. Where

(01:57:23):
Katie then to go. In your book about Katie that's
coming out, it's called the subtitles Relentless Pursuit to be
the Greatest. I've been told that even before, like before
he went to Golden State, he thought he was better
than Lebron and he couldn't wait once he got to
the Warriors to meet Lebron in the finals and he
wants to prove that he was better. Did you come

(01:57:46):
across in your research like is there I don't want
to use I hate to use the word obsession, but
you know how how much of a is that on
his mind to one up Lebron or be better than Lebron?
You know now and going forward in his legacy. You're
right right that Lebron has been that like, you know,

(01:58:09):
the bar that he needed to clear. But I think
since you been with the Warriors, especially out of the
first finals, I think he feels like when that bar
is cleared, while y'all tripping, y'all still don't see this, Yeah, right,
like I'm already better than the dude, and he might
say like I've been better. I know, he feels like
he's been better for three years now, right, And they
went head to head in the finals, and people will

(01:58:31):
say that the Warriors had the better team, which they
clearly did, is not questionable, but he definitely took those
one on one matchups to heart, like yeah, when it
was good time, it was me and you and yeah,
and I won that battle, you know, three times, two
times now, So I do I do feel like he
already believes it. And now the question it's for everybody

(01:58:52):
to understand it, which either might make him stay or
might make him leave, right because if he feels like
he can't get that recognition, he might just leave, or
he might say, I might need six titles for y'all
to see this. So right where I'm gonna get where
I'm gonna get three more, you gotta be here. But
no question like coming up and he you know, it's
not like a hatred thing, like you know, he real

(01:59:15):
with Lebron their friends, like he looks up to him,
But that's just the bar to be cleared. If you
would have inserted somebody else, he probably would have went
out of the same way. But no question, he feels
like he's the best player in the world. Marcus Thompson
the second Great Stuff as always. You can get his
new book k Deal will be out made fourteens, available
for pre order on Amazon right now. Keep up the

(01:59:39):
Great West Man, We'll see you down the road. Man,
can I can I come on like but instead of
like once every six months. May y'all be hating? Hey, hey,
don't then you're gonna get tired of us getting you
off right now, I can't get tired of you, Chris,
come on, man from way back. That's right, That's right,
all right, brother, thanks a lot, man shading more. The

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(02:00:22):
All right? Is the Eye Couple wrapping up another three
hours show. But before we go, we got sources say
check check check. Everybody hear me. My sources say, these
two have been covering sports for nearly three decades. Apiece,
I will say this, Let's put the Big Jay journalists
to the test. It's sources say, yes, sir, it is

(02:00:44):
sources say the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. Normally
we do this at eight forty five pm Easter. We
have some breaking news, and you know we couldn't let
the show end without giving you another award winning edition
of sources say where we put Chris and Robs one
hundred and twenty nine years of combined journalism to the
town Christia Old. We got these guys to find out

(02:01:07):
whether or not they've really got good sources as a
Big j journalists. So let's get started here with story
number one, gentleman, My sources say that nationals pitcher Patrick
Corban revealed an interview this week that when he played
for the d Backs, anytime someone would ask what he
did for a living, he would say he worked for
an air conditioning company called air Zona. Chris, and my

(02:01:28):
source is good, that's true. A sound so stupid it
has to be true. Oh no, you didn't give me.
Story number two, gentlemen, my sources say that Kyrie Irving
was photographed earlier this week getting on the Celtics team,

(02:01:50):
playing with the National Geographic Atlas of the World in
his bag. Robin, my source is good. False. That that's
ridiculous because you wouldn't see it hanging out of his bag.
He would have his Gucci bag clip together. True. Oh
you read that. No, just that ain't a real story, Rob.

(02:02:14):
I know Kyrie is a renaissance man. He thinks the
Earth is flat. He was trying to figure it out,
all right, sources say the couple of Fox Boards Radio Chris,
We're sorry it has better sources so far, he's up
to the one on, Rob Park, I think it's over.
Story number ahead three. During an interview last week, Sixers

(02:02:34):
head coach Brett Brown revealed that he once stole eggs
from an emu's nest so he can make an omelet. Chris,
I'm a source is good. That's like robs it. That
sounds too crazy not to be true. But I can't
believe that's true. I'm gonna say false. That's true. Oh

(02:02:55):
oh oh one one. Actually it's two to two. What
are your story? Number four? Guys, My sources say that
former NBA guard Terry the Hair went vital for a
few hours this week after his oldest son went on
a Twitter rant claiming that the hair accidentally deleted his

(02:03:15):
entire porn collection off his laptop. Wow, Robin with source
is good? You think that four letters? I was just thinking, Yeah,
I was gonna say, well, I would have gone ballistic too.
All right, Yes that's true. But what happened when I'm

(02:03:36):
gonna say it wasn't Terry the Hair, I know Rob
Ge and he's he. It was somebody else. But I'm
gonna say false, what's what's the real deal? You just
know there was some dude in Indiana who's actually suing
his parents because they deleted his porn color. You just
decided to put Terry the hairt I got issues with
Terry day Star that with you off the air, that's

(02:03:58):
so big. I think that's about time we got Crisp.
We sorry for the way, no way you calling me
my deame music the champions ye saying singing, I'm not
sing wanting you with me. I got Brona, come the

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