November 24, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us whether Patrick Mahomes and the underwhelming Kansas City offense will wind up being the reason the Chiefs miss the playoffs, and share their thoughts on Brandon Aiyuk’s beef with the San Francisco 49ers front office. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and ‘Up on Game’ co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss Shedeur Sanders’ big win over the Las Vegas Raiders, his confidence level in Daniel Jones moving forward, and much more!
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Speaker 2 (01:29):
You're cheating on your pasta.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'm not cheating.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
You're cheating on your shrimp Alfredo. That's the only pasta
I've ever seen you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
They didn't have any shrimp today. I went to God, Yeah,
that's what I say, that's what the gut to tell
you told me.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
That was an email. I wouldn't have came in. I'm
not used to seeing you with any other no red sauce.
You usually got the alfredo or something. I was really disappointed.
I went to the counter, was like, where the shrimp?
Where the scrimp? I'm like, where's the script? And then
like we don't have any today? Like you were really
bummed out? To God, that borderline ruined your day. I'm
(02:03):
just saying I noticed. So I came in back in
the studio and I was like, Man, that ain't the
normal shrimp pasta that I'm used to seeing you with.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I need to get off eating so much. I'm getting
fat again.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Dude, you have a regiment.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You have just six months on, six months off, six
months on, six months off. Well, I mean we got
the Super Bowl. I'm not skimping on Super Bowl, not
gonna lie, and I wanna that was a legendary run.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Rob G.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
His run at the Super Bowl was unprecedented. And it
wasn't the meals like when we went to eat. It
was the meals you didn't turn down because I knew that.
I knew that it was anyone he'll be like, oh, Rob,
you got two in your hand already.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Wings. You tore those Bounty wings up.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
For those who don't know a lot of sponsors, they're
there and Bounty the quicker Picker Upper was there. They
have wing and they had literally just they were just
literally wings, frying wing all day long, just giving you
a box of five or six wings every time.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So I had two boxes. Somebody walked over Sidy one
more wings and she walked by with us.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
No, this woman walked by with a sub remember a summer,
a sandwich HOGI, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Where you are in the country and.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
You're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you down
the biggest bag of barbecue chips too. That was when
I was concerned. I had to pull Rob G socker. Everybody, Okay,
we concerned. Is everything Okay, They're like, NA, this is
normal super Bowl. This is super Bowl because you know
your credit. You you lock in when you lock in,
and I'm gonna lock in too.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We got a big NABJ convention in Atlanta this sum Okay,
so you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Just telling y'all.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Now, there's gonna be no one black on radio or
TV for a handful of days. During that time, there
will be no one black on radio, TV and uh
first week August ish.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
No doubt about it, all right, Rob G. I was
gonna say something, but I'm gonna stick and not say that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The Kansas City Chiefe, I don't even know where you're going.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm just I'm good, Okay, Okay, that's gotta be racist.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
No one.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The Kansas City cheese. Rob G was given an early
Christmas gift. I don't know they they the Colts had
them down. Situation looked like they were gonna beat him.
Didn't score in the fourth quarter or overtime. Chiefs a
racing eleven point deficit and win. But I know you
thought the offense had taken a turn. They had had
(04:13):
a handful of weeks, but they it's been it's kind
of falling back rob g. The offense is just not
that not that potent. What hasn't been.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Yeah, the Colts had them dead to right early in
the fourth quarter, up by eleven. The Chiefs had just
fumbled the ball away to them. Right, Hey, the clock's
in your favor. Run the clock down, milk it as
far as you can. They got to score twice with
a two point conversion just to tie. Okay, and somehow,
someway they Indianapolis Colts decided to call nine Daniel Jones
(04:43):
passing plays, twelve plays of the game.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
When you got Jonathan Taylor, by the way, he wasn't
having a great game, but he was fifty something yond.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
But you still have to run the ball for the clock.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
They have to burn their timeouts, have to do it
right to stop it and keep the defense honest.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
If nothing else, dude, The Colts did not gain a
first down in the fourth quarter, zero overtime. Jones completed
three of nine attens for seventeen yards during that span
between the fourth quarter and overtime.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Is that Daniel Jones again on Chiefs defense.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
How the Colts are in total?
Speaker 8 (05:14):
How the Colts the ten first down to two and
and fifty five total yards, both season lows for Indianapolis.
Put to your point, Rob, offensively for the Chiefs because
their defense play came to play obviously they slammed door.
Offensively is another uneven performance. Patrick Mahomes another zero touchdown
one hey.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
The last three games, now, Rob, do you go ahead?
One touchdown?
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Three picks with the passer rating in the seventies, it's
just unbelievable. And offensively as a unit, Kansas City with
arguably the greatest quarterback ever, one of the greatest coaches.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Averaging a robust twenty points per game, which if this
was the length of the season, would ranked in the
bottom six in the NFL, which is alongside quarterbacks and
teams such as JJ McCarthy, justin Fields, Geno Smith.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They listen to the teams of that nature.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
And I think this is to me and who would
have thought this.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Their offense will be the reason they don't make the
playoffs because it just hasn't been up to snuff. And
when they've played now, now, the Cults are a good team, right,
they were what eight and three going in. That's a
rare win for them against a good team, and it took,
and it took the Colts like.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Not doing what you should do when you have a
lead in.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
A fourth quarter, which is running football eight o clock whatever,
even overtime.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
They didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And my point is it looked like when they got
some of those receivers back, you saw that for what
was it, three weeks they had three weeks?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
What they look like?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh, Patrick Mahomes is the MVP. Where'd that go? Remember
that conversation?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, unless they would have to go on a crazy
win every game and he put up two two, three
touchdowns a game for that that.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I don't even I just the three this this three
game stretch right here, one touchdown three in that regard
and that in that regard, and I think that when
you look at it, they easily could have lost that
third this third game, it's a miracle that they won,
kept their season alive. What are they six and five now?
They still got a hard way to go. It ain't
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like an easy because you got two teams ahead of
them and a whole bunch of teams, so it's it's
not like they're out of the woods. But I think
their offense is what's hurting them more than anything and
will be the reason why the Chiefs don't make the playoffs.
And I'm still sticking to that despite the win. Obviously,
if they would have lost Sunday and be five and six,
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I mean, they really would have had a hurdle.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
It's still going to be different.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I think that went saved their season. You know, if
they're gonna make the postseeds, that was it. They they
lose that they're out. I don't even care if the
mathematically they still have probability of a chick. They would
have been out had they lost game at that particular time.
Now we'll see how the rest of the season goes.
They can lose it, you know where they can lose.
They couldn't lose. That would have been too many games
with too many big games to come.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I hear you on the offensive last handful of games,
But when you look at the numbers, we were all saying,
what's wrong with the Chiefs. This is two years in
a row. Last year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look right. I
was saying he's missing easy passes he normally doesn't. Here's
the crazy part. This season, compared to last season, points
per game, they're ninth last season, fifteenth yards per game
(08:32):
they're seventh last season, sixteenth, Passing yards per game they're
fifth fifth last season they were fourteenth, and again rushing
yards there sixteenth, and they were twenty seconds. So in
every one of the metrics that you'd want to go
by offensively, they actually are better than in some cases significantly.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Better, but not not of late.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I'm talking about of late these last three games where
they were one and two.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
What I'm saying so if they would a whole season
being mid literally the definition of mid sixteen, fourteen to fifteen,
and then we're able to still be fifteen and two
because of that defense in those one of course, the
one score games, which which which.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
They haven't been able to struggle, they finally got that one.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So the offense, if the offense can be.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
A better hybrid of what they were the beginning of
this season, you know, the first the last four games
prior to the three game stretch, if they can be
closer to that, along with his defense, they're still going
to be a very difficult team to beat. And when
you start to project out a little bit uh things
that hold in their favor. This is the conversation I
was having with you last week about Josh Allen, Rogie,
(09:44):
he's two and seven, was the stat when he doesn't
score a touchdown, Josh Allen, if he's two and seven,
if he doesn't put up a touchdown in the game,
and that's the bird in the onus is always on him.
Rois Patrick Mahomes to what we were just saying, can
have three hundred and fifty yards and an interception but
no touchdown last he last yesterday and still win a game.
So that's the credit and the luxury he has of
(10:06):
having a really good defense and having a coaching staff
that can find other ways to win. Also, you start
to look at their schedule down the stretch. They got
a handful of three games that are kind of the
tough games if you will. They got the Cowboys coming
up on Thanksgiving, should be beatable. They obviously got a
big win. No, I agree. That's why I completely agree.
The Cowboys offensively a very difficult team.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
They put up points.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
So if you're the Chiefs, you're feeling all right, that's
a winnable, gonna be tough. Then they gotta play the Texans,
a very good team when it comes to defensively, but
they play them at home. They play the Broncos later
in the season. They play them at home, so a
handful of the game is a tougher one, and the
Chargers they play at home.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
But the only thing is, you know, you're not you
can't split, no, you know what I mean, Like even
though it game, you can't split. Where you are at
six and five, splitting is not gonna help you.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
They have a two game max cushion in the in
and how that works out, that might not be good
enough if the wrong in their case, the wrong team
the right team for the other team, you know, win
because there's two tie breakers and all that.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So because they've already lost the tie breakers, didn't they
to Denver?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well one and there they've lost one with Denver, and
now Denver has a better record, they're not gonna be
able to catch Denver. It's gonna be some other teams
in the AFC because they're not catching them.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It'll be the Chargers, for instance.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
They don't have the tie breakers with the Jags. The
Bills are the two most important ones, and then those.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Are huge for the playoff, you know what I mean.
If if they're in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It'll be interesting with the Jacks to how they finish
their season because the JASKI go from minute to not
even close if they mess around and lose two three straight.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But that's the one good thing shot that.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Where Patrick is though, I'm just you know, because you
thought that they had turned the corner. He got his
receivers back, but he's kind of reverted back to what
we were using seeing.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Disappointing for me is the odd turnovers, meaning I don't
expect you always have three four touchdowns, but the odd
odd timely turnovers. Not the first quarter, I chucked it
down the field, big time up, big time turnover. Did
that last week where it was a ten point swing,
point swing and he threw it right and Roy, I mean,
do it in the guy's number, the defenders numbers. So
(12:12):
that's the part to me that's been disappointing is again
it ain't always about just the big numbers. It's the
fact that you're turning it over at uncharacteristically bad times.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's what he's been known for not doing. And you know,
not me. I've been looking.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
The guy makes the clutch plays and so that's been one,
but when you look, there's another couple of other stats
that do both in their favor.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Is this shine off of him? Seriously and not not
not not for his career.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'm not talking about he's already he's already established his career.
He's a Hall of Fame quarterback no matter what he does,
because he won three Super Bowls, two m VP.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Like like, I get all that, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
At one point, and you know, Chris was on the
show was calling him Jordan Esk. I don't think anybody
could call him that anymore, like like like that kind
of shine. Even last year despite the fifteen and one record,
when he was there, he looked and said, yeah, they won,
but his stats weren't that great.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I think there's some shine off of him. The only
I don't disagree with the sentiment. Where I'll disagree is
because no one else is taking it from him, specifically
in his own conference, you get what I mean, Like,
no one's taking it from him. So if this were
the now the Josh Allen era, I would get it.
(13:30):
This was the Lamar era, I would get it. The
only foat he's really had as of recent is uh
the Jalen Hurts. You know who battle back and forth.
They want both for one and one they both won one.
But that's to me the reason why he still owns
the conference. And if we get into the postseason, would
if he ends up getting right back to like as
(13:51):
bad as he was he went to the super Bowl,
Like that's the that's the.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Floor, but you know what I mean, the floor, but
it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It's not the Patrick Mahomes led to the super Bowl
where you feel invincible, Like like that's I'm just saying
he used to. He was at one plateau. He's sixteenth
in passer rating. That that's like middle of the road.
He should be in the top five or the top
seven or somewhere of that. The idea that he's in
(14:19):
the middle of the pack, rob g who's below him?
And who's above him? I'm just curious as to be sixteenth.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
So in passer rating the guy he's directly ahead of
Jackson Dark.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
A DJ Stroud who had.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
A terrible start, to Citizen Baker Mayfield who has been
struggling recently, and Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
This is what I'm saying. And then thirteenth in interceptions.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Thirteenth in interceptions. Yes, now that's only because my guy
Geno smith Is just.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Is running away with it.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, oh my bag?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
What Yeah? I mean, can Jamis Winston? Do you want
him to start playing numbers?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
There just to say he's on the phone saying what
you're trying to do. G, You're trying to he this
is what I do here. But here, so Rob, G
and Rob the numbers you gave me, nobody can you
know argue with those? Here's where I still think why
you still get that shine? To what you asked, Rob,
He's still third and third down conversion rate total offense,
(15:20):
their seventh fourth down conversion rate, he's sixth. So I
think the players that ultimately matter, you know, he still
makes those and now if they get in the posts,
he's let's say they end up getting a wild card.
This is where he can be keep that shine because
now it's like he does it again and he's an
a SC championship game, We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Be like, how did it happen again?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I just I don't see that because they haven't beaten
good teams this year. That's that's aren't closed out that
that's the difference this ship. Now yesterday it was the
only time they beat the team and and you got
to give him credit.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
They beat the Colts at home. That was a big game.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
That was the one game. But all the other losses
are against good teams, and all that wins against teams
that new normally, An't that good?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
All right?
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I just think that's the point to your question about
the shine is nobody else has to take it from
Like it's not anyone else's run yet, Like this isn't
the Josh Allen. He hasn't gone to two super Bowls yet,
you know what I mean, Where you're like, oh, that's
his not.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Just saying that shine.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I don't mean like like taking his perch or people
look at him. I'm just saying I don't. I don't
look at him the same way when I watch the games,
the aura of him, like he was invincible. He's always
gonna make some play at the end. I think I
think it's fair that to die down.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
My last point, well again, the same thing when we
get in the postseason. That will be the thing when
we get in the postseason. Rob because he ended up
getting back to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
After all me, even me, I'm like, yo, what's going
on with him? He looks off he landed right back
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Uh despite him? Do you believe the Chiefs Chiefs offense
will be the reason they missed the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Like I do?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
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Christophers are He's not Jordan Esk.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
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Speaker 5 (17:12):
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Speaker 7 (18:34):
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Speaker 6 (18:35):
Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox, Mahomes offenses struggled
the last couple of games. Rob says that same offense
will be the reason they don't make the postseason. I
say they still get in.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
What say you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Who we got?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
How about Rodney in Michigan. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Rodney?
Speaker 10 (18:54):
How you doing?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Thank you my man, Hey, Rodney, I appreciate that so much.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
So the Chiefs. You know, Patrick Mahomes is one of
the greats, and he he writes the story like his
career is going to last a long time. It's gonna
be like Tom Brady who was winning Super Bowl for
what twenty some years. You know he's going to get
written off and all this stuff. And if the Eagles
taught us anything last year, when you play the chief
(19:22):
you got to knock him out, Like you can't be
in the post game with them, in the playoffs in
the super Bowl when you when you take on the Chiefs,
you got to knock him out. And you all are
kind of alluding to it. Who is going to want
to play the chief if they make the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I don't know, you know what. I got to say this.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I heard that in the NBA season about the Lakers
and Luca and Lebron and they got knocked out in
the first round. This is not This team is not
that good. And I hear you, and I know you're
giving respect to Patrick Mahomes and his resume and what
he's done. I'm just talking about the here and now.
I could sit here right now here and now is
not good. That's all I'm saying. But one touchdown in
(20:02):
three interceptions, he's middle of a pack.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Quarter.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Let me throw these at you.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Let's say they play the Coats again in the postseason
wild card or something like that, whatever it may be.
And to his point, that's the part where nobody even
though the Coats have been better on paper, but you
don't know, what.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Does Jonathan Taylor have a better game? Does he want?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
That is why you would be like, like if you're
if you're just saying the way they're playing, you would go, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Tom Brady went nine years when I wanted the Super
Bowl to people forget that part of his career. No,
but I'm just saying, but people forget those nine years.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Well, but I think Pat would take that if I
told Patrick Mahomes, hey, man, you'll be competitive, you'll make
some postseason runs, but you might not win, but then
you'll come back and win.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Though he's not playing. He's not playing. Uh, he's not
gonna family like Tom Brady. No, forget y'all football jacks
in Kansas City. You're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. Oh did he andre in Massachusetts? You're in
the odd couple Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (21:01):
Dright, Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking the call, listening.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I don't have the Kansas City he's crossing the bar.
Speaker 11 (21:09):
I don't have them making the postseason.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
That's because they're.
Speaker 11 (21:11):
Battling that age old enemy right now, that's Father time.
That's their their greatest impediment. To me, it's not the
same Travis Kelch. I know that's not because he's on
my fantasy sports team, not because of their relationship with
Taylor Swift. He's not the same guy. He's not that
all world greatest tight end of all time type of
a player. And obviously Tyreek Hill took his talents to
(21:32):
South Beach, right, they don't have the weapons that they
once did, and they're just getting a little bit older.
And so the years that they have schemed out those wins,
right when they're fifteen to one and got the home
field advantage, we're able to break through. But then even
when they had to go on the road to Baltimore
and win that game that they really shouldn't have won,
I just feel like that group is just they're not
(21:54):
the same bunch in the league has gotten a bit younger.
So I do feel this year it's going to be
the time for the Broncos, for the Chargers big win
against the Colts, but it was in Arrowhead had that
game been an Indy. I don't know if it had
gone their way. So Rob mcgreat point there. You could
have a hiatus, will still be great, but I think
the Chiefs are on the downflow, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, no doubt. Thank you, all right, appreciate it. All right.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
We got TJ. Hoosmans out on the other side right now.
Steve de Seger.
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Thanks Steve, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
I couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic City Monday.
We are joined now by our guy TJ. A who'
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Speaker 2 (22:48):
Ho'sh eighty four X.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
What up?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
TJ? Yo?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah? What's up?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Oh man? I'm good? How are y'all? Man?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Good man? Feeling good? This is a Thanksgiving week, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Holiday weeks fastly approaching. Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I want to start here. So the Giants and Lions
that that game there, Jamis Winston. The Lions were lucky
after it was the early Christmas gift. How surprised were
you that the Lions were able to win that game?
I think the Giants helped even what is it Malik Neighbors?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Did he did you see his Yeah? He deleted it.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah did you see TJ?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
No?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I did not, But watching that game, I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Just that that's essentially what was saying. You know, I
found it here.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It is sometimes I think, uh, they be making us
lose on purpose, because it's no way, bro, you throw
the ball instead of running it to make them burn
two timeouts, then you don't kick the field goal, then
(24:01):
they have to go down the field and score football
common sense? Am I missing something? And then he deleted it?
But he's right on the money, TJ. You watch the.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Game, Yeah he was told to delete that, but one
hundred percent what he said is the truth. But if
you're the Giants, why are you trying to win? Like? Really,
you want a high draft pick? Now you're not going
to the playoffs. I'm assuming Mike Capta wants to win
so he can remain the head coach. But it is baffling, man,
(24:31):
Like we as players, you put all this work and
time in and you're like, what are we doing cook.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
You can still lose. Okay, if you lose a game,
that's fine, you play. But come on there, anybody, you
don't have to be a football coach.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Come on because of those are mental mistakes. Those are
mental mistakes. Those those are mental mistakes. And then you're
gonna go watch the film and oh, you got to
do this better. Oh you gotta do this better. Oh no, no,
you just got to coach a little better.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, And well they did.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
One thing they did do right was Jameis Winston who
knew he was a tight end TJ who knew he
was your fellow brother. And as a receiver, as a
pass catcher, what was that out there? Him drawing up
place for him giving people the stiff arm. Jameis Winston
is a delight to the NFL. But is what is
it about him? Me and Rob talk about the time
that he just can't be a starter, Like he'll have
big offensive days, but then you're like, he's.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Just not a starter.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
I'll say this, Jami's trains out here with us. He's
seen and I've never played with him, but just from
watching him train and watching him with the teams he's
been on, he is the ultimate teammate. He's a guy
you want on your team. Now, the last two games
he started for the Giants, he ain't the reason they're losing, right,
(25:44):
he ain't making them. He's not playing how he played
with the Bucks. And you might throw the four hundred,
but he's gonna give you four turnovers. He's not doing that.
And so maybe he's learned. But you're not gonna be
the quarterback. You're not the future of the Giants. That
that's Jackson Dartin. So maybe he gets an opportunity. But
if I'm a player, I want Jameis Winston in the
locker room on my team. I just like his vine.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
See.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
My only thing is and I hear you because everything
you see about him, even social media, he seems like
a great guy and all that.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
You know, crab legs aside, uh.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
I mean sometimes ago sometimes they be hitting round. You
gotta do what you get that crab oil what I'm
gonna do and promise.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Of it.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
But TJ and ain't too many people walking out with
crab legs.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I'm just saying, I ain't gonna say what I want
to say. It's a certain all right.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
But but my point though is a little bit and
then we'll get to shador Is is maybe maybe he's
not serious enough. I'm just and this is what I
said to Kelvin earlier. Because the guy has talent. He's
a this guy was a baseball player too. He's a
talented athlete. I'm not even sitting here. He should have
been a starting quarterback for a team for a long
(26:59):
time time because of his ability.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
What's missing? There's something missing to YOUJ.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
No, they're there, this one almost. There was something that
I think early in his career when you're the first
pick coming out of florisd say first pick. Obviously the
time day Bucks. He could throw the ball, he could
throw a great accuracy. The ball is gonna be caught
just a lot too many, too many times it's caught
by the defense Russ And so he didn't really And
(27:26):
I don't know who was this quarterback coach and this
coordinator early on in Tampa, but it seemed to shift
a little bit when he went to the warnings with
Sean Payton. It seemed to shift like he wasn't. Yeah,
he was turning the ball over, but not at the
rate that he turned it over in Tampa. And now
you see these two games with the Giants last year.
(27:50):
I believe with Cleveland kind of reverted back at times.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Remember four touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Look what he did with Jerry Judy. Look what he
did with Jerry Judy, and Jerry Judy made a Pro
Bowl because Jamis Winston was this quarterback and was giving
him an opportunity to make plays. I just feel like
early on, when you're a quarterback, that coaching matters so much.
You look at Baker, he goes with McVeigh in the rounds.
(28:18):
Different quarterback. You look at Tom Darnold, he gets with
Shanna hand and he gets with Kevin O'Connell. Different quarterback.
Coaching matters so much in the National Football League, TJ.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Who's was out of our guests on the oct couple
Magic City Monday, Robin Kelvin, let's go to a Shador
Sanders get to win two hundred yards now to name
him the starter moving forward, just your initial reaction to
how he played and then them calling him the starter.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
At least as of now, there's nothing else you can
do but name him as a starter. He's gonna play
against a better team, but the Raiders in the National
Raiders of NFL team with the NFL caliber.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Players terrible, terrible, DJ are terrible.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
But they're in the NFL. Whoat Who's the best team
in the AFC? Real quick?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The Patriots?
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Oh yes, the Patriots. That Raiders team beat the best
team in the AFC. I don't care when it was.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
They don't know what I'm saying that he didn't. You
got to play who's on the schedule. But it does
matter who you played TJ and evaluating people.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
That's all to win the game. They took him out
a lot in a wildcat when they when they got
inside the five yard line? Is that that that's I
don't know why that is because they never did it
with Dylan Gabra. I have no idea, but it worked
for him. They won the game. I don't care what
you do when you win the game, coach, you make
great decision the entire game. I have no problem with it.
(29:35):
I said when he was when we knew he was
gonna start, he needed to have some players make uncommon
plays for him. Harold Fanning made a couple of uncommon plays.
You get to catch a ball eight yards short of
the first down, break a few tackles. That's an uncommon play.
Dylan Sampson gets that screen. That's an uncommon play and
when you're a rookie, that's what you need. You need
(29:56):
your playmakers to make plays for you. And they did that.
And so for Schador, great job. Now you're playing a
forty nine Ers team next week. Can you keep it
rolling because it's gonna be a better team, better defense. Yeah,
it's gonna be interesting. I'm happy for him, But it's
gonna get harder and harder.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Each week, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Last thing on the Chiefs, I think they got. Their
season was saved. I mean, I don't know how the
Coats weren't able to to.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Win that game.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
They had him in a good spot. Chiefs come back
eleven points. But Patrick Mahomes again struggling offensively. Why are
they struggling?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
He has one touchdown, three picks in his last three
games and the offense just the middle.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Of the road.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Yeah, well, offense actually the their top seven to eight
in a lot of the offensive stats.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, but they've just been struggling the last three weeks.
What's happened with their offense?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
They can't consistently move the ball. They gave the ball
Kareem Hunt had thirty carries. Yeah, he carries for one
hundred and four yards. That's just felt with three yards
of curys ridiculous. And so to me, that's Andy Reid
saying he doesn't trust the passing game. He doesn't trust
(31:13):
that they can get the job done. But we're gonna
need you when we need you. And they came through
where she Wright made some big plays. I felt like
the Coats like they just needed one or two plays
in the fourth quarter in the game.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
How about how about you? They had two.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But we just talked about earlier with the Giants TJ
nine of their last twelve plays were passing For Daniel Jones, I'll.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Say this, they weren't running the ball. Jonathan Spetner could
not run the ball effectively. But he's been the guy
you've relied on off seasons, so you say, okay, in
the biggest game of the season, let's rely on him.
Let's go back to when Josh down goes in motion,
the Chiefs bring a blitz. He's why he catched that ball.
He might score for sure, getting the first down that
might ice the game. Daniel Jones made a bad throw.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And Daniel Jones, I'm believed in Daniel Jones all year.
I don't believe in him. Yesterday was another example for me.
I don't know where are you quickly on Daniel Jones
and you know they beat a lot of bad teams
early on. He put up numbers. Has he turned the
corner or not?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
When your team is still leading the division, you had
to have turned the corner. He is just going to
have to play better when they need him the most
against the good teams. Against the good teams like that,
that's the key. When we need you to make that
throw to Josh Downs on third and four, you got
to make that throw. That ice is a game When
I need you to put that ball on the belly
(32:46):
of Michael Pittman when they cover zero bitch and he
runs that slant, that's what I need and we can't
I miss that throw. I need you to make the
play when I needed because that's going to be the
difference of winning and losing in the playoffs, because you're
gonna play nothing but the best of.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
The best, no doubt, no doubt. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, Bud.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Man, Happy Thanksgiving to y'all as well. Man, y'all keep
up the great work fellas.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Make sure you get them greens and mac and cheese
on that play brother too.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Oh you already know I'm about to be a fat boy.
I'm a game ten pounds this week.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
All right, we'll shoot me too. Appreciate your TJ me three.
How about that shoot you know what's going down?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
All right? Appreciate it?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Man.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Hey, we get your updated on this game. And the
forty nine ers are playing without a receiver who may
not be part of that team. Will give you that
up update as well. It's the I couple Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 5 (33:47):
Let people get in the Hall of Fame, Rob, Let
them get in. I'm a woman.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
So what if is there thirty ninth time up for
elegib takes that long for you to get in?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
You ain't a Hall of Fame right here? Roger Craig
on My Today Night Football, What did they say.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Senior selection or something, Senior semi finalists for the Hall
of Fame this year?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I don't even understand that, Like the NFL process is
weird to me.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
It used to be what them in baseball like you had,
it was hard to get in. Now it is getting
a little a little weird. Right here, it's the I Couple,
Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, dj Ali Alex sloaning it down
on this Magic City Monday. Shout out to TJ Housmazada
just joined us and uh, of course you can always
check that out on the podcast. Rob Gi working hard
on that seven nothing, forty nine ers ahead of the Panthers.
(34:34):
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Brandon Ayuk has had one of the more strangest runs
(34:57):
with the forty nine ers. It was a star receiver,
but then holdouts and injuries and now no longer with
the team.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
Yeah, there was speculation he might be playing in this
game as recently as two weeks ago, said, hey, you
know he's they they might clear him. He looks like
he's ready to go. He had that crazy knee injury
the middle of last season, but he might be back
somewhere around week twelve, week thirteen. Instead, we're going to
complete opposite direction because according to the athletic, all signs
point to Brandon Ayuk not playing for the Niners ever again, because,
(35:27):
according to them, after he had that knee injury, decided,
you know what, I'm going to get treatment and if
i am, I'm going on my own timetable, not when
you asked me to do. I'm not going to no
team meetings. I'm not showing up to anything from the athletic, right,
full disclosure. I'm sure they're sourcing is somewhere in the
front office and outside of the team, right.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
That's careful, That's all because they're gonna paint a picture.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
That they will absolutely But long story short, the Niners
have since rescinded all guarantees in his contract for twenty
twenty six, which sets the table for them to cut
him this offseason with no extra money.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
What bed it is contry we send guaranteed because he
didn't live up to his end of the contract.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Yeah, there's all those stipulations like we hear it and
it's just hey, played three years again, I'm making it
up eighty million not whatever whatever. But there's all type
of you gotta do this if you don't go to
our doctors in these meetings and these physician meetings.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
This is why I have a fundamental issue with the NFL,
just the NFL in general, the way that they treat
the players. Seriously, I've given up on the players associating
just the worst because to me, it's it's so disappointing
that guys give their bodies all that. Remember he had
(36:46):
to hold out to get a contract. He was a
big part on why they went.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
To the Super Bow.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Yeah, I know, I'm sorry, my bad, you know what.
You know what I'm saying. I remember that crazy catch
he did in that game?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yes, yes, but you get My point is these guys
got to do all that, beg borrow steel, whatever it
is to try to get a contract. They don't take
care of everybody. They take care of people who they
want to take care of. You remember the Patriots, notorious
you used up all those guys on defense, top five defense, whatever. Okay,
(37:18):
it's your turn to get Now, we're gonna let you go.
Who next go find exactly that's exactly what they did. Yeah,
it's it's disappointing, that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying
what he's doing, if he's following the protocol or doing
all that, but I could see where he could get
twisted to say I was here here, I was making
no money, giving my body, doing whatever I could for
(37:41):
the organization to try to get us to win the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Do all these Who was that guy? Yeah, he was
supposed to be and they had to and he had
to beg to get a contract.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
He was supposed to be.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
You know, Deebo Samuels was the guy they were able
to try to, they were able to work out a deal.
He was supposed to be next. He was their deep threat,
and uh, it just never really manufactured. And so they've
just been going back and forth. He was sulking all
last year. They were mad at him, he was mad
at them, and you kind of thought they'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
They've been able to keep McCaffrey, they've been able to
keep kittle. They've been able to find out they got
to deal with the Rock Party, like even Deebo a
couple years back.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So you just thought they'd be able to work it out.
Not the case.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
And uh, the one thing the forty nine ers have
been able to do to their credit, they just showed
a shot on Monday night. No Fred Warner, no Bosa.
These they win without whoever Rock Party. We just signed you.
You're our guy, but we can win games. And so
I don't know if this was a stalemate between he
and the team, and he thought, maybe that'll prove that
they need me. This is one of those few teams
(38:40):
that will be like, we will be all right without you.
So we'll see how us all on folds. We'll keep
you updated on the score as well.
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Speaker 2 (01:29):
You're cheating on your pasta.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'm not cheating.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
You're cheating on your shrimp Alfredo. That's the only pasta
I've ever seen you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
They didn't have any shrimp today. I went to God, Yeah,
that's what I say, that's what the gut to tell
you told me.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
That was an email. I wouldn't have came in. I'm
not used to seeing you with any other no red sauce.
You usually got the alfredo or something. I was really disappointed.
I went to the counter, was like, where the shrimp?
Where the scrimp? I'm like, where's the script? And then
like we don't have any today? Like you were really
bummed out? To God, that borderline ruined your day. I'm
(02:03):
just saying I noticed. So I came in back in
the studio and I was like, Man, that ain't the
normal shrimp pasta that I'm used to seeing you with.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I need to get off eating so much. I'm getting
fat again.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Dude, you have a regiment.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
You have just six months on, six months off, six
months on, six months off. Well, I mean we got
the Super Bowl. I'm not skimping on Super Bowl, not
gonna lie, and I wanna that was a legendary run.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Rob G.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
His run at the Super Bowl was unprecedented. And it
wasn't the meals like when we went to eat. It
was the meals you didn't turn down because I knew that.
I knew that it was anyone he'll be like, oh, Rob,
you got two in your hand already.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Wings. You tore those Bounty wings up.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
For those who don't know a lot of sponsors, they're
there and Bounty the quicker Picker Upper was there. They
have wing and they had literally just they were just
literally wings, frying wing all day long, just giving you
a box of five or six wings every time.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So I had two boxes. Somebody walked over Sidy one
more wings and she walked by with us.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
No, this woman walked by with a sub remember a summer,
a sandwich HOGI, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Where you are in the country and.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
You're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you down
the biggest bag of barbecue chips too. That was when
I was concerned. I had to pull Rob G socker. Everybody, Okay,
we concerned. Is everything Okay, They're like, NA, this is
normal super Bowl. This is super Bowl because you know
your credit. You you lock in when you lock in,
and I'm gonna lock in too.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We got a big NABJ convention in Atlanta this sum Okay,
so you know, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Just telling y'all.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Now, there's gonna be no one black on radio or
TV for a handful of days. During that time, there
will be no one black on radio, TV and uh
first week August ish.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
No doubt about it, all right, Rob G. I was
gonna say something, but I'm gonna stick and not say that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The Kansas City Chiefe, I don't even know where you're going.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm just I'm good, Okay, Okay, that's gotta be racist.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
No one.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
The Kansas City cheese. Rob G was given an early
Christmas gift. I don't know they they the Colts had
them down. Situation looked like they were gonna beat him.
Didn't score in the fourth quarter or overtime. Chiefs a
racing eleven point deficit and win. But I know you
thought the offense had taken a turn. They had had
(04:13):
a handful of weeks, but they it's been it's kind
of falling back rob g. The offense is just not
that not that potent. What hasn't been.
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Yeah, the Colts had them dead to right early in
the fourth quarter, up by eleven. The Chiefs had just
fumbled the ball away to them. Right, Hey, the clock's
in your favor. Run the clock down, milk it as
far as you can. They got to score twice with
a two point conversion just to tie. Okay, and somehow,
someway they Indianapolis Colts decided to call nine Daniel Jones
(04:43):
passing plays, twelve plays of the game.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
When you got Jonathan Taylor, by the way, he wasn't
having a great game, but he was fifty something yond.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
But you still have to run the ball for the clock.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
They have to burn their timeouts, have to do it
right to stop it and keep the defense honest.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
If nothing else, dude, The Colts did not gain a
first down in the fourth quarter, zero overtime. Jones completed
three of nine attens for seventeen yards during that span
between the fourth quarter and overtime.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Is that Daniel Jones again on Chiefs defense.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
How the Colts are in total?
Speaker 8 (05:14):
How the Colts the ten first down to two and
and fifty five total yards, both season lows for Indianapolis.
Put to your point, Rob, offensively for the Chiefs because
their defense play came to play obviously they slammed door.
Offensively is another uneven performance. Patrick Mahomes another zero touchdown
one hey.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
The last three games, now, Rob, do you go ahead?
One touchdown?
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Three picks with the passer rating in the seventies, it's
just unbelievable. And offensively as a unit, Kansas City with
arguably the greatest quarterback ever, one of the greatest coaches.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
Averaging a robust twenty points per game, which if this
was the length of the season, would ranked in the
bottom six in the NFL, which is alongside quarterbacks and
teams such as JJ McCarthy, justin Fields, Geno Smith.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They listen to the teams of that nature.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
And I think this is to me and who would
have thought this.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Their offense will be the reason they don't make the
playoffs because it just hasn't been up to snuff. And
when they've played now, now, the Cults are a good team, right,
they were what eight and three going in. That's a
rare win for them against a good team, and it took,
and it took the Colts like.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Not doing what you should do when you have a
lead in.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
A fourth quarter, which is running football eight o clock whatever,
even overtime.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
They didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
And my point is it looked like when they got
some of those receivers back, you saw that for what
was it, three weeks they had three weeks?
Speaker 5 (06:49):
What they look like?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh, Patrick Mahomes is the MVP. Where'd that go? Remember
that conversation?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, unless they would have to go on a crazy
win every game and he put up two two, three
touchdowns a game for that that.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
I don't even I just the three this this three
game stretch right here, one touchdown three in that regard
and that in that regard, and I think that when
you look at it, they easily could have lost that
third this third game, it's a miracle that they won,
kept their season alive. What are they six and five now?
They still got a hard way to go. It ain't
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like an easy because you got two teams ahead of
them and a whole bunch of teams, so it's it's
not like they're out of the woods. But I think
their offense is what's hurting them more than anything and
will be the reason why the Chiefs don't make the playoffs.
And I'm still sticking to that despite the win. Obviously,
if they would have lost Sunday and be five and six,
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I mean, they really would have had a hurdle.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
It's still going to be different.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I think that went saved their season. You know, if
they're gonna make the postseeds, that was it. They they
lose that they're out. I don't even care if the
mathematically they still have probability of a chick. They would
have been out had they lost game at that particular time.
Now we'll see how the rest of the season goes.
They can lose it, you know where they can lose.
They couldn't lose. That would have been too many games
with too many big games to come.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I hear you on the offensive last handful of games,
But when you look at the numbers, we were all saying,
what's wrong with the Chiefs. This is two years in
a row. Last year, Patrick Mahomes doesn't look right. I
was saying he's missing easy passes he normally doesn't. Here's
the crazy part. This season, compared to last season, points
per game, they're ninth last season, fifteenth yards per game
(08:32):
they're seventh last season, sixteenth, Passing yards per game they're
fifth fifth last season they were fourteenth, and again rushing
yards there sixteenth, and they were twenty seconds. So in
every one of the metrics that you'd want to go
by offensively, they actually are better than in some cases significantly.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Better, but not not of late.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I'm talking about of late these last three games where
they were one and two.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
What I'm saying so if they would a whole season
being mid literally the definition of mid sixteen, fourteen to fifteen,
and then we're able to still be fifteen and two
because of that defense in those one of course, the
one score games, which which which.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
They haven't been able to struggle, they finally got that one.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So the offense, if the offense can be.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
A better hybrid of what they were the beginning of
this season, you know, the first the last four games
prior to the three game stretch, if they can be
closer to that, along with his defense, they're still going
to be a very difficult team to beat. And when
you start to project out a little bit uh things
that hold in their favor. This is the conversation I
was having with you last week about Josh Allen, Rogie,
(09:44):
he's two and seven, was the stat when he doesn't
score a touchdown, Josh Allen, if he's two and seven,
if he doesn't put up a touchdown in the game,
and that's the bird in the onus is always on him.
Rois Patrick Mahomes to what we were just saying, can
have three hundred and fifty yards and an interception but
no touchdown last he last yesterday and still win a game.
So that's the credit and the luxury he has of
(10:06):
having a really good defense and having a coaching staff
that can find other ways to win. Also, you start
to look at their schedule down the stretch. They got
a handful of three games that are kind of the
tough games if you will. They got the Cowboys coming
up on Thanksgiving, should be beatable. They obviously got a
big win. No, I agree. That's why I completely agree.
The Cowboys offensively a very difficult team.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
They put up points.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
So if you're the Chiefs, you're feeling all right, that's
a winnable, gonna be tough. Then they gotta play the Texans,
a very good team when it comes to defensively, but
they play them at home. They play the Broncos later
in the season. They play them at home, so a
handful of the game is a tougher one, and the
Chargers they play at home.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
But the only thing is, you know, you're not you
can't split, no, you know what I mean, Like even
though it game, you can't split. Where you are at
six and five, splitting is not gonna help you.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
They have a two game max cushion in the in
and how that works out, that might not be good
enough if the wrong in their case, the wrong team
the right team for the other team, you know, win
because there's two tie breakers and all that.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So because they've already lost the tie breakers, didn't they
to Denver?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Well one and there they've lost one with Denver, and
now Denver has a better record, they're not gonna be
able to catch Denver. It's gonna be some other teams
in the AFC because they're not catching them.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It'll be the Chargers, for instance.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
They don't have the tie breakers with the Jags. The
Bills are the two most important ones, and then those.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Are huge for the playoff, you know what I mean.
If if they're in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
It'll be interesting with the Jacks to how they finish
their season because the JASKI go from minute to not
even close if they mess around and lose two three straight.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But that's the one good thing shot that.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Where Patrick is though, I'm just you know, because you
thought that they had turned the corner. He got his
receivers back, but he's kind of reverted back to what
we were using seeing.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Disappointing for me is the odd turnovers, meaning I don't
expect you always have three four touchdowns, but the odd
odd timely turnovers. Not the first quarter, I chucked it
down the field, big time up, big time turnover. Did
that last week where it was a ten point swing,
point swing and he threw it right and Roy, I mean,
do it in the guy's number, the defenders numbers. So
(12:12):
that's the part to me that's been disappointing is again
it ain't always about just the big numbers. It's the
fact that you're turning it over at uncharacteristically bad times.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's what he's been known for not doing. And you know,
not me. I've been looking.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
The guy makes the clutch plays and so that's been one,
but when you look, there's another couple of other stats
that do both in their favor.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Is this shine off of him? Seriously and not not
not not for his career.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'm not talking about he's already he's already established his career.
He's a Hall of Fame quarterback no matter what he does,
because he won three Super Bowls, two m VP.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Like like, I get all that, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
At one point, and you know, Chris was on the
show was calling him Jordan Esk. I don't think anybody
could call him that anymore, like like like that kind
of shine. Even last year despite the fifteen and one record,
when he was there, he looked and said, yeah, they won,
but his stats weren't that great.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
I think there's some shine off of him. The only
I don't disagree with the sentiment. Where I'll disagree is
because no one else is taking it from him, specifically
in his own conference, you get what I mean, Like,
no one's taking it from him. So if this were
the now the Josh Allen era, I would get it.
(13:30):
This was the Lamar era, I would get it. The
only foat he's really had as of recent is uh
the Jalen Hurts. You know who battle back and forth.
They want both for one and one they both won one.
But that's to me the reason why he still owns
the conference. And if we get into the postseason, would
if he ends up getting right back to like as
(13:51):
bad as he was he went to the super Bowl,
Like that's the that's the.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Floor, but you know what I mean, the floor, but
it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It's not the Patrick Mahomes led to the super Bowl
where you feel invincible, Like like that's I'm just saying
he used to. He was at one plateau. He's sixteenth
in passer rating. That that's like middle of the road.
He should be in the top five or the top
seven or somewhere of that. The idea that he's in
(14:19):
the middle of the pack, rob g who's below him?
And who's above him? I'm just curious as to be sixteenth.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
So in passer rating the guy he's directly ahead of
Jackson Dark.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
A DJ Stroud who had.
Speaker 8 (14:33):
A terrible start, to Citizen Baker Mayfield who has been
struggling recently, and Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
This is what I'm saying. And then thirteenth in interceptions.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Thirteenth in interceptions. Yes, now that's only because my guy
Geno smith Is just.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Is running away with it.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, oh my bag?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
What Yeah? I mean, can Jamis Winston? Do you want
him to start playing numbers?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
There just to say he's on the phone saying what
you're trying to do. G, You're trying to he this
is what I do here. But here, so Rob, G
and Rob the numbers you gave me, nobody can you
know argue with those? Here's where I still think why
you still get that shine? To what you asked, Rob,
He's still third and third down conversion rate total offense,
(15:20):
their seventh fourth down conversion rate, he's sixth. So I
think the players that ultimately matter, you know, he still
makes those and now if they get in the posts,
he's let's say they end up getting a wild card.
This is where he can be keep that shine because
now it's like he does it again and he's an
a SC championship game, We're gonna.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Be like, how did it happen again?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I just I don't see that because they haven't beaten
good teams this year. That's that's aren't closed out that
that's the difference this ship. Now yesterday it was the
only time they beat the team and and you got
to give him credit.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
They beat the Colts at home. That was a big game.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
That was the one game. But all the other losses
are against good teams, and all that wins against teams
that new normally, An't that good?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
All right?
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I just think that's the point to your question about
the shine is nobody else has to take it from
Like it's not anyone else's run yet, Like this isn't
the Josh Allen. He hasn't gone to two super Bowls yet,
you know what I mean, Where you're like, oh, that's
his not.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Just saying that shine.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I don't mean like like taking his perch or people
look at him. I'm just saying I don't. I don't
look at him the same way when I watch the games,
the aura of him, like he was invincible. He's always
gonna make some play at the end. I think I
think it's fair that to die down.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
My last point, well again, the same thing when we
get in the postseason. That will be the thing when
we get in the postseason. Rob because he ended up
getting back to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
After all me, even me, I'm like, yo, what's going
on with him? He looks off he landed right back
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Uh despite him? Do you believe the Chiefs Chiefs offense
will be the reason they missed the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Like I do?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
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Speaker 2 (18:26):
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Speaker 7 (18:34):
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Speaker 6 (18:35):
Eight seven seven ninety nine On Fox, Mahomes offenses struggled
the last couple of games. Rob says that same offense
will be the reason they don't make the postseason. I
say they still get in.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
What say you? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Who we got?
Speaker 4 (18:48):
How about Rodney in Michigan. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Rodney?
Speaker 10 (18:54):
How you doing?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Thank you my man, Hey, Rodney, I appreciate that so much.
Speaker 10 (19:02):
So the Chiefs. You know, Patrick Mahomes is one of
the greats, and he he writes the story like his
career is going to last a long time. It's gonna
be like Tom Brady who was winning Super Bowl for
what twenty some years. You know he's going to get
written off and all this stuff. And if the Eagles
taught us anything last year, when you play the chief
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you got to knock him out, Like you can't be
in the post game with them, in the playoffs in
the super Bowl when you when you take on the Chiefs,
you got to knock him out. And you all are
kind of alluding to it. Who is going to want
to play the chief if they make the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I don't know, you know what. I got to say this.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
I heard that in the NBA season about the Lakers
and Luca and Lebron and they got knocked out in
the first round. This is not This team is not
that good. And I hear you, and I know you're
giving respect to Patrick Mahomes and his resume and what
he's done. I'm just talking about the here and now.
I could sit here right now here and now is
not good. That's all I'm saying. But one touchdown in
(20:02):
three interceptions, he's middle of a pack.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Quarter.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Let me throw these at you.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Let's say they play the Coats again in the postseason
wild card or something like that, whatever it may be.
And to his point, that's the part where nobody even
though the Coats have been better on paper, but you
don't know, what.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Does Jonathan Taylor have a better game? Does he want?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
That is why you would be like, like if you're
if you're just saying the way they're playing, you would go, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Tom Brady went nine years when I wanted the Super
Bowl to people forget that part of his career. No,
but I'm just saying, but people forget those nine years.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Well, but I think Pat would take that if I
told Patrick Mahomes, hey, man, you'll be competitive, you'll make
some postseason runs, but you might not win, but then
you'll come back and win.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Though he's not playing. He's not playing. Uh, he's not
gonna family like Tom Brady. No, forget y'all football jacks
in Kansas City. You're in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. Oh did he andre in Massachusetts? You're in
the odd couple Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (21:01):
Dright, Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking the call, listening.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
I don't have the Kansas City he's crossing the bar.
Speaker 11 (21:09):
I don't have them making the postseason.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
That's because they're.
Speaker 11 (21:11):
Battling that age old enemy right now, that's Father time.
That's their their greatest impediment. To me, it's not the
same Travis Kelch. I know that's not because he's on
my fantasy sports team, not because of their relationship with
Taylor Swift. He's not the same guy. He's not that
all world greatest tight end of all time type of
a player. And obviously Tyreek Hill took his talents to
(21:32):
South Beach, right, they don't have the weapons that they
once did, and they're just getting a little bit older.
And so the years that they have schemed out those wins,
right when they're fifteen to one and got the home
field advantage, we're able to break through. But then even
when they had to go on the road to Baltimore
and win that game that they really shouldn't have won,
I just feel like that group is just they're not
(21:54):
the same bunch in the league has gotten a bit younger.
So I do feel this year it's going to be
the time for the Broncos, for the Chargers big win
against the Colts, but it was in Arrowhead had that
game been an Indy. I don't know if it had
gone their way. So Rob mcgreat point there. You could
have a hiatus, will still be great, but I think
the Chiefs are on the downflow, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, no doubt. Thank you, all right, appreciate it. All right.
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Thanks Steve, appreciate it.
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Speaker 2 (22:48):
Ho'sh eighty four X.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
What up?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
TJ? Yo?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Yeah? What's up?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Oh man? I'm good? How are y'all? Man?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Good man? Feeling good? This is a Thanksgiving week, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Holiday weeks fastly approaching. Uh.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
I want to start here. So the Giants and Lions
that that game there, Jamis Winston. The Lions were lucky
after it was the early Christmas gift. How surprised were
you that the Lions were able to win that game?
I think the Giants helped even what is it Malik Neighbors?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Did he did you see his Yeah? He deleted it.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah did you see TJ?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
No?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I did not, But watching that game, I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Just that that's essentially what was saying. You know, I
found it here.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
It is sometimes I think, uh, they be making us
lose on purpose, because it's no way, bro, you throw
the ball instead of running it to make them burn
two timeouts, then you don't kick the field goal, then
(24:01):
they have to go down the field and score football
common sense? Am I missing something? And then he deleted it?
But he's right on the money, TJ. You watch the.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Game, Yeah he was told to delete that, but one
hundred percent what he said is the truth. But if
you're the Giants, why are you trying to win? Like? Really,
you want a high draft pick? Now you're not going
to the playoffs. I'm assuming Mike Capta wants to win
so he can remain the head coach. But it is baffling, man,
(24:31):
Like we as players, you put all this work and
time in and you're like, what are we doing cook.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
You can still lose. Okay, if you lose a game,
that's fine, you play. But come on there, anybody, you
don't have to be a football coach.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Come on because of those are mental mistakes. Those are
mental mistakes. Those those are mental mistakes. And then you're
gonna go watch the film and oh, you got to
do this better. Oh you gotta do this better. Oh no, no,
you just got to coach a little better.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, And well they did.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
One thing they did do right was Jameis Winston who
knew he was a tight end TJ who knew he
was your fellow brother. And as a receiver, as a
pass catcher, what was that out there? Him drawing up
place for him giving people the stiff arm. Jameis Winston
is a delight to the NFL. But is what is
it about him? Me and Rob talk about the time
that he just can't be a starter, Like he'll have
big offensive days, but then you're like, he's.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Just not a starter.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
I'll say this, Jami's trains out here with us. He's
seen and I've never played with him, but just from
watching him train and watching him with the teams he's
been on, he is the ultimate teammate. He's a guy
you want on your team. Now, the last two games
he started for the Giants, he ain't the reason they're losing, right,
(25:44):
he ain't making them. He's not playing how he played
with the Bucks. And you might throw the four hundred,
but he's gonna give you four turnovers. He's not doing that.
And so maybe he's learned. But you're not gonna be
the quarterback. You're not the future of the Giants. That
that's Jackson Dartin. So maybe he gets an opportunity. But
if I'm a player, I want Jameis Winston in the
locker room on my team. I just like his vine.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
See.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
My only thing is and I hear you because everything
you see about him, even social media, he seems like
a great guy and all that.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
You know, crab legs aside, uh.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
I mean sometimes ago sometimes they be hitting round. You
gotta do what you get that crab oil what I'm
gonna do and promise.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Of it.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
But TJ and ain't too many people walking out with
crab legs.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I'm just saying, I ain't gonna say what I want
to say. It's a certain all right.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
But but my point though is a little bit and
then we'll get to shador Is is maybe maybe he's
not serious enough. I'm just and this is what I
said to Kelvin earlier. Because the guy has talent. He's
a this guy was a baseball player too. He's a
talented athlete. I'm not even sitting here. He should have
been a starting quarterback for a team for a long
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time time because of his ability.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
What's missing? There's something missing to YOUJ.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
No, they're there, this one almost. There was something that
I think early in his career when you're the first
pick coming out of florisd say first pick. Obviously the
time day Bucks. He could throw the ball, he could
throw a great accuracy. The ball is gonna be caught
just a lot too many, too many times it's caught
by the defense Russ And so he didn't really And
(27:26):
I don't know who was this quarterback coach and this
coordinator early on in Tampa, but it seemed to shift
a little bit when he went to the warnings with
Sean Payton. It seemed to shift like he wasn't. Yeah,
he was turning the ball over, but not at the
rate that he turned it over in Tampa. And now
you see these two games with the Giants last year.
(27:50):
I believe with Cleveland kind of reverted back at times.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Remember four touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Look what he did with Jerry Judy. Look what he
did with Jerry Judy, and Jerry Judy made a Pro
Bowl because Jamis Winston was this quarterback and was giving
him an opportunity to make plays. I just feel like
early on, when you're a quarterback, that coaching matters so much.
You look at Baker, he goes with McVeigh in the rounds.
(28:18):
Different quarterback. You look at Tom Darnold, he gets with
Shanna hand and he gets with Kevin O'Connell. Different quarterback.
Coaching matters so much in the National Football League, TJ.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
Who's was out of our guests on the oct couple
Magic City Monday, Robin Kelvin, let's go to a Shador
Sanders get to win two hundred yards now to name
him the starter moving forward, just your initial reaction to
how he played and then them calling him the starter.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
At least as of now, there's nothing else you can
do but name him as a starter. He's gonna play
against a better team, but the Raiders in the National
Raiders of NFL team with the NFL caliber.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Players terrible, terrible, DJ are terrible.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
But they're in the NFL. Whoat Who's the best team
in the AFC? Real quick?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The Patriots?
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Oh yes, the Patriots. That Raiders team beat the best
team in the AFC. I don't care when it was.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
They don't know what I'm saying that he didn't. You
got to play who's on the schedule. But it does
matter who you played TJ and evaluating people.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
That's all to win the game. They took him out
a lot in a wildcat when they when they got
inside the five yard line? Is that that that's I
don't know why that is because they never did it
with Dylan Gabra. I have no idea, but it worked
for him. They won the game. I don't care what
you do when you win the game, coach, you make
great decision the entire game. I have no problem with it.
(29:35):
I said when he was when we knew he was
gonna start, he needed to have some players make uncommon
plays for him. Harold Fanning made a couple of uncommon plays.
You get to catch a ball eight yards short of
the first down, break a few tackles. That's an uncommon play.
Dylan Sampson gets that screen. That's an uncommon play and
when you're a rookie, that's what you need. You need
(29:56):
your playmakers to make plays for you. And they did that.
And so for Schador, great job. Now you're playing a
forty nine Ers team next week. Can you keep it
rolling because it's gonna be a better team, better defense. Yeah,
it's gonna be interesting. I'm happy for him, But it's
gonna get harder and harder.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Each week, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Last thing on the Chiefs, I think they got. Their
season was saved. I mean, I don't know how the
Coats weren't able to to.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Win that game.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
They had him in a good spot. Chiefs come back
eleven points. But Patrick Mahomes again struggling offensively. Why are
they struggling?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
He has one touchdown, three picks in his last three
games and the offense just the middle.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Of the road.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Yeah, well, offense actually the their top seven to eight
in a lot of the offensive stats.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, but they've just been struggling the last three weeks.
What's happened with their offense?
Speaker 7 (30:52):
They can't consistently move the ball. They gave the ball
Kareem Hunt had thirty carries. Yeah, he carries for one
hundred and four yards. That's just felt with three yards
of curys ridiculous. And so to me, that's Andy Reid
saying he doesn't trust the passing game. He doesn't trust
(31:13):
that they can get the job done. But we're gonna
need you when we need you. And they came through
where she Wright made some big plays. I felt like
the Coats like they just needed one or two plays
in the fourth quarter in the game.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
How about how about you? They had two.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
But we just talked about earlier with the Giants TJ
nine of their last twelve plays were passing For Daniel Jones, I'll.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Say this, they weren't running the ball. Jonathan Spetner could
not run the ball effectively. But he's been the guy
you've relied on off seasons, so you say, okay, in
the biggest game of the season, let's rely on him.
Let's go back to when Josh down goes in motion,
the Chiefs bring a blitz. He's why he catched that ball.
He might score for sure, getting the first down that
might ice the game. Daniel Jones made a bad throw.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And Daniel Jones, I'm believed in Daniel Jones all year.
I don't believe in him. Yesterday was another example for me.
I don't know where are you quickly on Daniel Jones
and you know they beat a lot of bad teams
early on. He put up numbers. Has he turned the
corner or not?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
When your team is still leading the division, you had
to have turned the corner. He is just going to
have to play better when they need him the most
against the good teams. Against the good teams like that,
that's the key. When we need you to make that
throw to Josh Downs on third and four, you got
to make that throw. That ice is a game When
I need you to put that ball on the belly
(32:46):
of Michael Pittman when they cover zero bitch and he
runs that slant, that's what I need and we can't
I miss that throw. I need you to make the
play when I needed because that's going to be the
difference of winning and losing in the playoffs, because you're
gonna play nothing but the best of.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
The best, no doubt, no doubt. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, Bud.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Man, Happy Thanksgiving to y'all as well. Man, y'all keep
up the great work fellas.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Make sure you get them greens and mac and cheese
on that play brother too.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Oh you already know I'm about to be a fat boy.
I'm a game ten pounds this week.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
All right, we'll shoot me too. Appreciate your TJ me three.
How about that shoot you know what's going down?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
All right? Appreciate it?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Man.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Hey, we get your updated on this game. And the
forty nine ers are playing without a receiver who may
not be part of that team. Will give you that
up update as well. It's the I couple Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 5 (33:47):
Let people get in the Hall of Fame, Rob, Let
them get in. I'm a woman.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
So what if is there thirty ninth time up for
elegib takes that long for you to get in?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
You ain't a Hall of Fame right here? Roger Craig
on My Today Night Football, What did they say.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Senior selection or something, Senior semi finalists for the Hall
of Fame this year?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I don't even understand that, Like the NFL process is
weird to me.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
It used to be what them in baseball like you had,
it was hard to get in. Now it is getting
a little a little weird. Right here, it's the I Couple,
Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, dj Ali Alex sloaning it down
on this Magic City Monday. Shout out to TJ Housmazada
just joined us and uh, of course you can always
check that out on the podcast. Rob Gi working hard
on that seven nothing, forty nine ers ahead of the Panthers.
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Brandon Ayuk has had one of the more strangest runs
(34:57):
with the forty nine ers. It was a star receiver,
but then holdouts and injuries and now no longer with
the team.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
Yeah, there was speculation he might be playing in this
game as recently as two weeks ago, said, hey, you
know he's they they might clear him. He looks like
he's ready to go. He had that crazy knee injury
the middle of last season, but he might be back
somewhere around week twelve, week thirteen. Instead, we're going to
complete opposite direction because according to the athletic, all signs
point to Brandon Ayuk not playing for the Niners ever again, because,
(35:27):
according to them, after he had that knee injury, decided,
you know what, I'm going to get treatment and if
i am, I'm going on my own timetable, not when
you asked me to do. I'm not going to no
team meetings. I'm not showing up to anything from the athletic, right,
full disclosure. I'm sure they're sourcing is somewhere in the
front office and outside of the team, right.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
That's careful, That's all because they're gonna paint a picture.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
That they will absolutely But long story short, the Niners
have since rescinded all guarantees in his contract for twenty
twenty six, which sets the table for them to cut
him this offseason with no extra money.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
What bed it is contry we send guaranteed because he
didn't live up to his end of the contract.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Yeah, there's all those stipulations like we hear it and
it's just hey, played three years again, I'm making it
up eighty million not whatever whatever. But there's all type
of you gotta do this if you don't go to
our doctors in these meetings and these physician meetings.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
This is why I have a fundamental issue with the NFL,
just the NFL in general, the way that they treat
the players. Seriously, I've given up on the players associating
just the worst because to me, it's it's so disappointing
that guys give their bodies all that. Remember he had
(36:46):
to hold out to get a contract. He was a
big part on why they went.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
To the Super Bow.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Yeah, I know, I'm sorry, my bad, you know what.
You know what I'm saying. I remember that crazy catch
he did in that game?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yes, yes, but you get My point is these guys
got to do all that, beg borrow steel, whatever it
is to try to get a contract. They don't take
care of everybody. They take care of people who they
want to take care of. You remember the Patriots, notorious
you used up all those guys on defense, top five defense, whatever. Okay,
(37:18):
it's your turn to get Now, we're gonna let you go.
Who next go find exactly that's exactly what they did. Yeah,
it's it's disappointing, that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying
what he's doing, if he's following the protocol or doing
all that, but I could see where he could get
twisted to say I was here here, I was making
no money, giving my body, doing whatever I could for
(37:41):
the organization to try to get us to win the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Do all these Who was that guy? Yeah, he was
supposed to be and they had to and he had
to beg to get a contract.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
He was supposed to be.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
You know, Deebo Samuels was the guy they were able
to try to, they were able to work out a deal.
He was supposed to be next. He was their deep threat,
and uh, it just never really manufactured. And so they've
just been going back and forth. He was sulking all
last year. They were mad at him, he was mad
at them, and you kind of thought they'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
They've been able to keep McCaffrey, they've been able to
keep kittle. They've been able to find out they got
to deal with the Rock Party, like even Deebo a
couple years back.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So you just thought they'd be able to work it out.
Not the case.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
And uh, the one thing the forty nine ers have
been able to do to their credit, they just showed
a shot on Monday night. No Fred Warner, no Bosa.
These they win without whoever Rock Party. We just signed you.
You're our guy, but we can win games. And so
I don't know if this was a stalemate between he
and the team, and he thought, maybe that'll prove that
they need me. This is one of those few teams
(38:40):
that will be like, we will be all right without you.
So we'll see how us all on folds. We'll keep
you updated on the score as well.
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