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December 2, 2025 38 mins

Rob and Kelvin debate whether it’s fair to call Drake Maye’s MVP candidacy ‘fraudulent’, and explain why Jaxson Dart needs to re-evaluate the way he plays football if he wants to have a long NFL career. Plus, former Michigan quarterback and FOX College Football analyst Devin Gardner swings by to discuss the Wolverines’ ugly loss to Ohio State, Lane Kiffin’s ugly exit from Ole Miss, the likelihood that Texas climbs into the College Football Playoffs. Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
It is The Odd Couple, our number two on a
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all right, anything in the world of sports, and we
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(00:54):
Washington here on Fox Sports Radio. Remember, yeah, I'm good,
trying to wolf down.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Smell good, though I ain't gonna say barbecue. Somebody grilled a
burger for it. Just a burger. Yeah, yeah, that's like,
that's a mama burger. That's that Eddie Murphy, Mama dad
that I brought her from home, can you Yeah, that's
a that's a home burger.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh my god, I saw that. The pickles you put on.
I'm proud of you, said, screw you six dollars meal
at McDonald's. That's why I would make my own burger,
make my own burgers. Remind me and my mom when
we used to drive when I was a kid or
whatever in the car and I'd be like, Ma, let's
go to McDonald's. My hamburger tastes better than McDonald's. Can
make that at home. And you ain't know what to say, Mom,

(01:34):
you can't make those fries like that. You can what?
You give me some potatoes? Boy, the way I keep
the skin on them, I don't want the skin on
the potato. Parents, all right, trust me? I know now
that's why you telluse you like my chicken better. They
be like, what do we say? We want nothing? By
the way, kid, the two the twenty twenty kids are brutal.
They don't have that decorn we used to have. These
twenty twenty kids is different. I come back from it.

(01:56):
Jon gave everything to them. Shut up. I'm just you
know that. Rob. You guilty too, look him say this guilty.
You know that it's a whole different.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
You feel guilty as a parent not giving them what
they want to.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Like to say, please, my daughters be like, yeah, right,
but you ain't having that we ain't gonna have no
ice cream tonight. If you don't, okay, you ain't goyna
be like right, my wife be in the background laughing.
I mean, I'm in my mind. I'm standing on business.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, you digging in that uh Briar's crate for
the ice cream.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
For the kid? All right, Well next time, we're not
gonna do it next the next time, No, I am
no orioles are gonna go on that ice cream. That's
all right. They'd be like, he's gonna put chips a
hoy on it. I can see you. You're like, you
know what you know?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
You guys ain't gonna wear gloves outside, all right, put
those mittens on.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
That's what it is. Wear mittens. I'm gonna walk. Okay,
I'll drive you, but I ain't gonna listen to the
radio while I drive you to the park. Yeah, man,
I try to stand on business. It's hard, man, I
know it is all right. We should say check us
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Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's that simple. Don't forget trash talking coming off and
much more. All right, So do I have the wrong
shoot here, I'm totally looking at the wrong shoot.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
He may your favorite, Yes, let's go there, but not
only Vegas favorite. Your favorite. That's right, Drake May and
his performance. Obviously, it came against the awful New York
Football Giants.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Rob Parker's second favorite white quarterback, Drake May aka Drake May,
coolest nickname in sports.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Second favorite. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers. He's not blacked.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
So Drake May continued his assault on the AFC twenty
four two, two touchdowns, no picks. The Patriots are now
first in the conference eleven and two only team in the
NFL with eleven wins, and as a result, immediately after
the game, bet MGM Draft Kings Fan Duel Pick your
favorite website installed Drake May as the new favorite to

(04:06):
win the NFL MVP's current going off at a consensus
minus won thirty five. He has surpassed Matthew Stafford. And
just to give you some context on what Drake May
is doing real quick, last night mark Drake May's sixth
game this season, which he completed seventy ever cent of
it passes, had two touchdown passes that ties Matt Ryan
at twenty sixteen, the third most of the season Tom

(04:27):
Brady twousand and seven and Jared Goff twenty twenty four.
The reason why that's notable is because both Tom Brady
and Matt Ryan won the MVP in that season, something
that Drake May's trying to do this season.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Rob G Kelvin, I'm sorry, I'm just I'm gonna pump
the brakes on the Drake May. And he's the greatest
thing since slic spread and all that, and they're ready
to crown him and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Rob G? Did they not lose to the Raiders this team?
They sure week one? They sure did. Yeah, And and
can we go, rob G? Can you go over the
schedule for me? I got it right here?

Speaker 3 (05:04):
You got it, okay, because they've only beaten two teams,
I believe. I don't want to misspeak over five hundred
like like they've They've had an unbelievable run of a lot.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
And I get it. If they're on the schedule, you
gotta do your thing, you know. I'm not mad at them,
but really, this is like the old days when Tom
Brady had six wins before the season started in the
old AFC lease right like like that. This is that's
what took. I was going to say that, that's what
it feels like. Really, yeah, it all depends on how

(05:36):
you want to look at it. As far as you know,
are you counting the Panthers as a quality win when
they beat them? No, I'm not, because now they're seven
and six, I get it. But I'm saying, so the Bills.
They beat the Bills back in October twenty three, twenty
which obviously that that's a good win. That's a good one.
And then they beat the Bucks back in November and

(05:56):
that was a good one twenty twenty three. And then
as far as your standards to your likings, that would
be it. Because you've got the Jets, you got some Falcons,
you got some Titans, some Bengals, you got the obviously
Egyptian I'm just telling you, they got the Saints to
So yeah, ain't I got a that schedule that Drake

(06:19):
May has beat it stinks. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna
crown the guy and the Patriots and Mike Graywols now
the greatest football coach ever.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Like, stop all the madness. Context matters. Who are you beating?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
This is why? Go ahead, I want you to finish
who I want to fight you? Who are you beating?
It does matter. I'm talking about when you try and look,
you gotta beat people in front of you. Don't get
me wrong, But if you're gonna start start telling people
that they're MVP and this guy is the greatest coach
and all that, that's where I'm gonna push back. I'm

(06:59):
not back on their record. That's what That's what the
record is, right, Just like Rob g how many years
ago was it when the Stealers.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Were eleven and oh and I raised my hand and
I said, that's the worst eleven and O team I
ever saw. And then they got in the playoffs and
got smacked around. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I actually get what you're saying because of one of
the things you can look at with the Patriots this
and I think this is why the Patriots maybe to
an extent, the Broncos for some people, maybe the.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Big Broncos are different from that defense. They can win
a Super Bowl with that differense.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I'm dead So I think there's a handful of teams
that have really even the Eagles, right, I got a
good record with people are like, I don't know this
is a weird team. It's I mean season where you're like,
there's no there's no Patriots of all, where you're like,
it's the Patriots, No Peyton Manning's of all with the Colts,
where you're like, all right, that's who they are. There's
no the Kansas City Chiefs of four or five years ago.
Oh that's the Chiefs. This is one of those weird years.
It's like, all right, the Patriots are nine and three.

(07:58):
Do you buy it? Because when you look who they beat,
by the way, even to add to your point, when
you look at who they beat, they weren't destroying them.
They got some games where it's like, all right, you
beat the Saints that you barely beat them, You beat
the the Titans you barely beat. There's some some teams
on there. You're like, I would have expected a blowout
against these bad teams and all. You can't blow out everybody.
But here's where I got smunk with you, sir. I

(08:20):
actually understand your point. He's playing very well. He's only
beating who's in front of him. What is he supposed
to do? But then there's somebody else who has been
doing that and beating some good teams and his numbers
are incredible, and that's Matthew Stafford. So who my thing is,
who's gonna be the MVP? If you got Matthew Stafford
beating quality teams, has a great record ninety three n

(08:43):
he had a dud this past under He he knows
that Drake may great record, great stats, but he's he's
beaten bad teams and a couple of good Who you
want Rob, That's the thing I have. The question is,
because what do you want it to be again? Matthew Stafford,
Who's the veteran who's been through, He's grizzled, He's beaten teams,

(09:04):
been a good commerce. I mean his com his division
alone is maybe this is the year that it's not
Maybe it's the year that it ain't gonna be. Jonathan Taylor,
he ain't han't done enough the last few weeks. Ben
what happened to that Jonathan Taylor story everybody was talking
about and all that?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
What happened to the Sam Darnell story? Where did that go?
I mean, he's still around, I ain't no m v P.
It's between those times and what happened to Danny Dimes
that that felt that fell off the ragon hard am
I right, Well, like none.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Of those guys. So my point is you just named
who you like who, But he could win because Rob
g just gave you the two scenarios up that that
that that Tom Brady won and who is the other
guy Matt Ryan in Atlanta. So Matt Ryan, he got
an outlier. He won one m v P. Right, he
did Super Bowl to eight three? Well he go to bad.

(09:52):
Don't you ever say twenty eight three to him? Dude?
That that's you can't live that down. I'm sorry, it's
how many people for your reservation? Twenty eight? Can we
have twenty eight people at three pm?

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Now?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You can't get twenty eight and three? Don't ever bring
that is as bad as bad as it gets, what's worse.
But all I'm saying is, well, Seattle, you have the
one yard line.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
You got the It's not like best Mood didn't have
over one hundred yards in that game. And he had
just ran to the two one and a half, right,
he just got there, and one like, oh should we
run them? And then to here the announcers on the
game go the Patriots should let him score.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's some of the Patriots players let up watch it
they kind of go like, I don't know what to do.
They were like they should let him score, you could
get the ball back. The only person who was Butler,
He's the only one who was like he saw red.
I know the play ran through it. If you watch
that play, someone who knew what was coming. Some of
the Patriots linemen are like fake going like foe, like

(10:49):
they wanted him to score. Man terrible anyway, go ahead,
But I hear you on he has a possibility. I do,
he might win or whatever.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
But I'm just saying, I'm I'm not buying it, all right,
what you got, Rob g.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So here are the current MVP.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
If you're saying Drake May's a fraud and Matthew Stafford's
a fraud, I'm gonna give you the top five odds.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
You let me know which guy you would feel comfortable
with winning the MVP, because.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
It's not the numbers from Stafford, and it's not the
storyline with Drake May.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Sam Darnold, we know that ain't it for him? Keep
going Caleb Williams. I mean, you know, I'm all into Caleb,
but I don't. But I'm not. But I'm not, But
I'm not even you don't hear me doing that? Have
you heard me do that?

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Not?

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Once got those guys are tied at plus six thousands.
So Josh Allen, not this season, Dak Prescott, you know what,
there's your dog, there's your dark horse. Then and especially
Rob g.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
And Kelvin go to Detroit, light them up, and now
they got a couple of things going. They win all
and you're kind of like, now you're in this thing. Right.
They traded Micah Parsons. They started one in four. What
was the record, right, one in four? Well, you know
it was like one three and one. Remember they had
that tie or whatever it was something like that like that.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And they get to the playoffs, so almost whining like like,
and he puts up these numbers.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
He could do it.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
You know, he could be that guy, I'm telling you,
especially if Stafford has another bump stinker, which I'm sure
will happen at some point.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
The reason is still Matthew Stafford. For me, I don't
see him having a enough stinkers. Not that he's definitely
capable of one more, for sure, that's just that's just
the game. But his stats are so great. He's in
an incredibly tough division. I mean you talk about the
forty nine ers, Stafford have a bad two games stretch.
The forty nine ers can mess around a still division.
I mean the Seahawks are right there. So he's in

(12:42):
a very tough division. And with that record, the way
he's playing, the sentimental story of your quarterbacks favorite quarterback.
He's thirty seven and he's playing like this, Stafford is
my You know, that would be the pick to me
up the three guys are talking about. But I agree
Dak Prescott runs off for of they have five games.
If he mess around and go four one, they're six'
five and one right, now they mess around and go

(13:03):
so say ten six and, one make the play and
they got a chance to make the.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Player so there's one other guy in Between, Dak stafford And.
May who's That Jordan?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Love?

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Wow his case is the. Inverse, hey we traded For Micah.
Parsons we got off to a slow star relatively and
then they got but he always seems to get hot
towards the end of the.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Season, now if that, happens you, know the way you
finished sometimes could be. It if they run the, table
win the division from The bears or. Something you know
WHAT i mean and The bears finishing. Second, uh that's
a pot. Tho they played this, weekend don't.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
They, yeah they. Do that's a handful of good game
with the indivisional games that. Matter chris coll was That
Chris conin's work on A thanksgiving. Game he Was he
kept mentioning, that, like why is anybody talking About Jordan?
Love and you know a lot of people talking about,
this But jordan is like he's having one of those.
SEASONS i think it's partly because they had a three
to four game stretch where even a couple, wins you're, like,
yeah like, that they didn't look like like thirteen. Games,

(14:01):
yeah they were only scoring thirteen and. SIXTEEN i think
that's what kept him out of. It Rob g is
that he had he and the team had a couple
of losses and even in a couple of wins where
it's only like thirteen to sixteen. Points so IF i
Think dak would take that Over Jordan love if they
kept on the pace they're going right, Now dak absolutely
would take it over. Him Matthew stafford's the leading for,

(14:23):
me followed By. Drake But drake definitely got to watch
his back Because. DAK i just think people would love
The Cowboys. Dak and remember he was on THE mvp
run a couple of seasons. Ago didn't win, it but
he was the runner, up IF i believe. Correctly so
he you, know he's not foreign to, this all, Right,
uh it's.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
It it sounds like a one QUARTERBACK nfl quarterback has
a death. Wish that's, Right we'll get to that. Next
sounds like a bad. Movie h it.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
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(15:57):
know WHAT i was? It Fox sports ready On Kevin
Robert rocker Kelvin, washington about twenty minutes away from Trash Talking,
tuesday so that'll be. Good also Begin Yay Devin, gardner
Former university Of michigan Quarterbacks Fox College football, analysts gonna
join us here in about five six. Minutes we'll talk
to some college football playoffs with him and some of

(16:17):
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(16:40):
about a little bit yesterday Because Jackson dark got laid
out there in the game while we were happening to
still be on the. Air laid out again he got
laid laid out lad, OKAY i like that loudle reference
and then he tumbled down on that from the Sixth
i'm not gonna lie that's the Second well what was
the other?

Speaker 7 (16:56):
One?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh that was, eighties the eighties when you did The Dougie. Fresh,
yes Slick, rick but he doubled down Rob Gie. Right
for those who are asking, about, hey you know you're
worried about taking, hits he has something to say about.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
It i'm to keep playing.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
Aggressive, no hopefully everybody can take a second to watch
my tape going back to high school and realize that
this is not a. Shock, LIKE i play the game.
AGGRESSIVELY i took one hit that people are talking. ABOUT
i slid got out of the.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Way have a lot of.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Hits SO i appreciate, people you, know wanting to you,
know me to be healthy and all that, stuff AND
i want to be healthy. Too BUT i play this game,
aggressive So i'm Not i'm not going to just change
HOW i play the.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Game i'm gonna say this What i'm about to. Say
If i'm The, Giants i'm, very very scared of this. Kid,
uh not only his, health but how in the world
can we put our eggs in the basket and make
him the franchise quarterback because he ain't gonna be quarterback very.
Long like like. That can you imagine being in THE?
Nfl talk about watch your high school? Tape did you hear?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
THAT i?

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Did watch his high school?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Tape do you know these are the best athletes in
the world played in The National Football League when he
played in high, school the other kids were practice dummies and.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Fodd or for. Him, right there's a handful of kids
who are superior and they and they they they you see.
It they rushed for five hundred yards a game because
they're better than every kid in high. School every. Kid come, on,
dude watch my tape from high? School? Really do you
understand what's going on and how you moved? Ochool? Yes thank?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
You?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, Listen first of, all what's the definition of in?
Sanity you're doing the same thing expecting different, results meaning
it's okay to. Change you ain't gotta be getting concussions
every other week talking about it's just HOW i played. It,
no it's all, right e, off it's all right to,
say all, Right i'm a. Pro now it's. Different high
school's passion is for the. Love you have no idea
you're gonna make it to. College oh, WOW i start

(18:57):
getting college college. Scholarships, okay, BOY i loved the. Game
never think you're gonna make it the Pro oh. Wow point, is,
dude you've made it to a professional. Ranking you are
a franchise player by a lot of. It be a
franchise franchise. Quarterback slow. Down we want you to have a,
long healthy. Career and nobody's saying don't play, aggressive but
that they're saying is played wise and smart and by the,

(19:18):
way you, know he reminds me of and kind of The.
Bravado the way he, acts the statements he, says and
the hits he's. Taken he reminds me Of jim McMahon
with The. Bears Remember jim McMahon were the. Headband he

(19:39):
had the shades all the. Time he was. Cool that
was his whole. Vibe he was all swagged out and
he took a lot of, hits a lot of. Hits,
Well dart already right set out the two previous games
because of a concussion and was checked for concussion in
four of the previous eight. Games just think about, that

(20:02):
four of the pre he was checked for. Concussion this
is year, one, Dude this Ain't it's just not for
the long. Haul if you don't take care of. Yourself
that's why they teach you how to.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Slide they brought in baseball players to, quarterbacks learn how
to get, down. Slide don't take an extra, hit get
to the, sidelines step. Out everybody used to make jokes
About frank o'harris when he's with The pittsburgh St, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Just step out of. Bound i'm not taking an extra
hit for. ONCE i got my nine.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yards there's three guys in front of. Me now there's
a playoff, game and you need a, YARD i get.
It but every play for an extra yard to take
an unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Hit and even If franco is a running, back even
if he won, It i'm just, saying why you had
a heck of a nice, career, Career hall Of fame.
Career they's always, got you, know make a joke about,
him because behind my thing too is it's also being,
selfish right because if the team leadsing you and you
are our, guy you are, quarterback will then get you our.

(21:02):
Guy we need. You and so if you picked up
six but yeah there was seven, okay well we'll live
with the. Six now it's third and you know third
and three if it's the ballgames on the line and
you need the extra yawn to get it right and
jumping headfirst into the d spun around that was in
The Super. Bowl come, on, man get we get that

(21:24):
year one four. Concussion uh you know protocol moments where
they looked at you. Bottom come, on, MAN i hate
to break it to, you but The giants are two
and eleven and here's and you know what the other
part two, right two and eleven? Is you remember back
in middle, school elementary school was This you did your
teacher ever have to break you? Up all? Right rob
And tom Or rob And davante can't sit together him And.

(21:48):
SCATIBOUL i might have to break them up Because scatibol
is the same. Way that's HOW i. Played and you
hear his Parents he was like that as a. Kid
he used to run into telephone poles and. STUFF i
don't want to hear. That him Is. KATABOO i love the.
ENERGY i love what they. Bring i'm sure the city is.
Lit i'm sure the city is, Like, man we got
some you, know these are our, guys our future minlik
nighbors when he's. Back but y'all got to ease. Up

(22:10):
i'm Not i'm had to drink it like elementary and
break y'all up a little. Bit you gotta have to
sit over. There you gonna have the sit over there
until y'all finally understand. It you guys are. Professionals we need.
You we're gonna need you for the long. Haul we
can't have you injured and dealing with the concussions all the.
Time All, right we Got Devin, gardner AS i, mentioned
getting ready to join. Us we talk some college football
with him After steve The sega get you this world,
Renowned world award winning.

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get my wall to blocking by water to.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
You would block to if they tried to dish?

Speaker 8 (23:48):
You, no, no.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
No the cab in there rest in peace To. Kenba all?

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Man uh do we just start with our lank you
for let's start. That i'm talking About. Michigan but, Yeah
Lani Lane. KIFFIN i, mean this is the way the
system is set. Up you've stayed there for six. YEARS
i don't know what people want him to. DO lsu
is one of those. Programs is he did he commit a?

Speaker 4 (24:14):
CRIME i don't think he.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
DID i, mean if everybody in this world is gonna
do with the best for, them if that's what he
thought he was was best for. HIM i could see
if he got there he did nothing for the program
and then he just darted.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Right, well, no he brought that program to.

Speaker 9 (24:29):
Prominence you, know they're doing really. Well they're actually about
to go in to the, playoff AND i think they
have a real, shot even though he's.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Not going to be.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
There and he felt like what was best for him
was to go TO lsu because of whatever, reason doesn't.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
Matter it's none of our.

Speaker 9 (24:41):
Business SO i don't see how people are so. Upset
maybe old miss, stands, yeah but everybody else.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Is he's, Real, eleavin don't tell me it's none of
my business with our. Son you looked him in his
eye and you told him we were gonna do, this
and we were gonna do, that and you're gonna let
him almost to The Promised land and then your dip
the what If moses? Left, okay, dangy you can't get
us there and if and it's just, like, no my,
man how we gonna leave him at The Red? Sea
you known part the rad seats said there's some boats
over there on the other. There y'all figure it.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
Out this isn't this, Isn't Laye kiff's. Fault i'm sure
he would have stayed in coach love. ANYMORE i, mean
how about.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
You not always have to take? Something just can somebody?
Offer you can say, no you. Can't it's you can say.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
No but if you're a football coach going with a
chance to go TO, LSU i can't blame the. Guy
it's not like he took a lotter rem Move devon,
right or he went to a lower.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
School it's not a lot of that is a step. Up,
HOLD i got something for, both, Y'all devin And. Rob
let me ask you. This he goes to your, Point,
devin mess. Around get to the national championship. Game let's
say they even, lose or god, forbid they win. It
and let's say he decided to stay another year. Too
very still young, man still a young. Man you don't
think he's gonna get whatever the big? Next Joy? Alabama,

(25:52):
no you an, automatic It's oio. State whatever it.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
Is.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Automatic he keeps failing. Up, Anyway we've seen it for
ten twelve. Years. Man that's my. Point you stick with,
them you, win and then look at another year or,
two something else opens. Up florida opens up, again and
you can go There alabama or.

Speaker 9 (26:07):
Something you go, there, wait hold, on time time? Out
are you trying to play the?

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Hypothetical maybe thank, you thank?

Speaker 6 (26:14):
You And i'm at it right?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Now you want me to?

Speaker 6 (26:16):
Wait thank?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You and you know, What you're not sure what jobs open?
Up you know WHAT i? Mean that might be eight
years from now.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
That mightbody gets this job and does a good. Job, yes,
no what's the.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Good job AT? Lsu because the last three guys have
all won and they still ain't there no.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
More.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
No But i'm just, saying you know, me you got a,
shot or maybe my program goes down And i'm not
the hot to molly that everybody Thinks.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I'm AN i am on. Transfer you can be, that all.
Right i'm mad at both of. Y'all right, now all,
right let's talk About michigan And Ohio. State ain't no
Way michigan was Being Ohio. STATE i know people were the, truth, yes,
right it just wasn't. Happening we gotta.

Speaker 9 (26:54):
TALK i, mean it was like the perfect storm to
like have no chance to win a football. Game, Right
you've Got Matt patricia versus A Bryce, underwood WHO i
think is very clear everybody knows is underperformed and been
underdeveloped throughout this. Season, Right so he's in a situation
where he's playing against the best defense he'll ever see

(27:16):
maybe his entire life as a college football. Player With
Caleb downs and r Vl reese And sonny styles mean
That trio alone is too. Much and so you have
a freshman quarterback and he starts the game off not
really seeing you, Well and anybody that's played quarterback or
play football understands that you handcuff your, coordinator, Right so

(27:36):
now the coordinator can't call. Anything and if you're not
going to be able to call, anythroing and you definitely
don't have a chance against that type Of Ohio state.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
TEAM i Like, BRYCE i Like, underwood BUT i tell you, what,
man he's falling in love with the, like look how
HARD i can throw. It sometimes somebody two yards away
from m he's, like look how HARD i can. Throw
so we'll switch. THERE i think they'll be all right
once they get the offense. ROLLER i want to ask
you some college football playoff because we've got the rankings
by the hour and a half. AGO i want to
start with just the idea what team should do when

(28:05):
it comes to. Scheduling DO i Schedule Ohio state If I'm,
texas knowing we used to be at, least it's a
good loss to have on the. Record if you lose,
now it might come back to bite you in the,
butt like it could potentially Do texas or some other.
Teams but you can lose more games nowadays than this.
News you. Can't, yes you can. Not not if you.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Sifts, listen, guys If I'm, Texas i'm gonna play a
game and it's gonna be against An ohio, team and
it's gonna Be, Miami.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Ohio.

Speaker 9 (28:29):
They're gonna be read. Too in case you're, wondering, listen
you gain.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
Nothing you gain.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Nothing if they are a team that did not Schedule Ohio, state,
now maybe they wouldn't be the team that they. Are
you could say that, hypothetically, Right maybe that test and
that opportunity set them up for a position where they
can Beat TEXAS a AND m in this past. Week,
however if you don't schedule that, game if you think
your team's gonna be, good they'll be just fine and

(28:53):
they'll be in the playoff whether they PLAY Inncc championship or.
Not SO i don't see any benefits to you, know
having those strong call over. Games it hurts me as
a college, fan as an, analyst as a person that
wants to see really.

Speaker 11 (29:04):
Good football all the.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
Time however it does them no. FAVORS i get.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
It we're GONNA i think we're gonna see a complete
adjustment over the next couple of. Years with, that all,
right how about a, question will three top ten wins
be enough to Help texas overcome their three? LOSSES i mean.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
That's really tough because with them not being in it
on this first for this second or last rendition of the,
RANKINGS i, mean it's not a lot of space for
them to, go you know WHAT i, Mean it's not
space for them to get.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
In from what we just. Saw SO i.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
Don't think, so even though that's an impressive, RESUME i
don't know if.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
They're gonna be able to do.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
It, yeah we got some more. Conversation rob AND i
are gonna have a college football, Playoff so we'll do
that in a little. Bit But, man appreciate, it, Man Michigan,
everyboh they gonna bounce. Back no worry about, It, hey.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
Man let it.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
Go Lane kiffin just deal with best for.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Him, man and would you rather be In?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Louisiana, OH i, wonder don't put, that you, know, Man
i'm gonna be out there fighting for my life Like
zion eating all that good food In New. Orleans yeah you,
HEY devi you Know, Ida i'm about to text you
Right i'm about to be tweeting you right, now just for.
That i'm about To i'm about to you know what
he's gonna. Do he's gonna block you block, Him. Devin

(30:21):
my many appreciate, it, Bro all Appreciate. No no Trash Talking,
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Speaker 2 (30:33):
Radio, hey it's Trash Talking tuesday on the odd.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Couple get those cans to the.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Curves what gopage MAN.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
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Speaker 1 (30:59):
Fox Sports radio. App Couple Robert kelvin on a Trash Talking,
tuesday getting ready to get to it in two seconds
shout out To Devin, gardner appreciate him joining. Us we'll
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time for trash Talking. Tuesday don't you talking about?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Me it's.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Trash Talking.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Tuesday it's your, Tea. DREGGY i don't know whether to.
Smile lets you kick a? Field go, Man, ahi are
you ready to? Go?

Speaker 9 (31:50):
It all?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Right let's Go orlando N L. Paso you're on the
couple Of Fox Sports. Radio who you?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Trashing?

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Orlando, hey, listen, Guys i'm trying all the people out
there now blaming the kids for what's happening with the
lane kissing. Things and unless you, listen the grown ups
messed us, up not the.

Speaker 10 (32:08):
Kids the only people that lose here is the.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Kids.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Okay ALL lsu did was back up the breaks truck
and dump a lot of money.

Speaker 10 (32:15):
To lane, kissing and like any nor other human, beings
he took.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
It, Okay so the only loser here is the.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Kids but all the growing. Ups come, on y'all have
mishandle this from day.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
One give me a, break thanks.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Guys all, Right, hey, hey, hey he said it ain't
about the, money all, right thank. YOU i don't even
know the.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Money eric In, Austin, texas you're on the couple Of
Fox Sports. Radio who are you?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Trashing? Eric what?

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Up?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Rob?

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Whatever?

Speaker 10 (32:40):
Telvin, HEY i gots doing?

Speaker 9 (32:41):
What all?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Right how are?

Speaker 7 (32:42):
You i'm?

Speaker 9 (32:43):
GOOD i got two PEOPLE i.

Speaker 10 (32:45):
Gotta trash real. Quick number, one as an eagle, Fit
i'm trashing the clouds that egg are offensive coord in his.
House don't get me, Wrong tivin mcdulo is.

Speaker 9 (32:53):
Horrible he deserves to be.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Fired but there has to be.

Speaker 10 (32:56):
A line drawn at some. Point number, Two Ay, TELEVIN
i hope you appreciate this. ONE i am Trashing Sharon.
MOORE i hope us finally getting. Ard you know what
kicks that get in the house. DATES i hope people
fathers have to, say you can't trust this. MAN i
don't trust him as our head. COACH i don't think
he can lead us to the plumbers. Land he was
doing it With jim harball.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
TEAM i do not trust for All.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Moore he's a.

Speaker 10 (33:17):
Joke he doesn't even not to run. Offense he needs
to go better be AN o line.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
COACH i can't, respond BUT i will, say you ain't going. Right,
yeah you can't. Respond thank, you all, right appreciate.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
That Eric andrew In, chicago you're on the odd couple
Of Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Radio who you? Trashing?

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Andrew, Hey Rod, vike it's me, Again. Andrew of course
you know.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Who what's, up, Buddy i'm just.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
Sad it's it's, misugar, nus, fools, Gold it's it's all your.
Sayings it's stop it My chicago. Bulls they always get.
US i don't know what's. WORSE i don't want to
say the, word but you know it starts with blue
and it ends with something. Else get my hopes up
and then. Boom look we start off hot and then
back to. Mediocrity actually not even. That we're usually mid

(34:05):
and we make the the n season tournament and that's
more than okay for ownership because they just want to fill.
Seats but, no they don't even fire the, coach who's
the third longest coach that's active in THE. Nba they do.
Nothing they just want. Money they don't want any. Improvements
they get our hopes up and then. Boom it's just
it's just. Brutal it. Sucks it sucks being A bulls

(34:25):
fan because this. Organization but nobody wants to come in the.
Highlight you Want Anthony, Davis no, way, no how come?
On are you kidding? Me he's injury. Prone it's, ENOUGH
i Doubt AND i just want to say congrats to
on being a.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Finalist, rob thank you so much for The hall Of.
FAME o, man you forgot which one he was talking? About?
Yeah which? One this? TIME i remember. YOU i appreciate.
Now they just wrote a nice little article then you did,
remember SO i did remember. Today thank. YOU i did
submit that last. Week we appreciate. It how about Oh,
Man chad in The natty you're on the couple Of

(35:02):
Fox Sports. Radio who are you Trashing?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Chad?

Speaker 12 (35:06):
Yeah, Og i'm Trashing CALVIN vj And martin for being fanboy. Journalists,
Sorry michigan looking like cheeks getting smoked BY, Osu michigan
only making three field, goals embarrassing, themselves acting like fake
tough guys even though they're just some soft college, kids
Trashing Lamar, jackins flicking Like Action, jackson Waxing, jackson looking

(35:28):
like cheeks On thanksgiving against The bengals When Joe burrow
came out and smoked, them made them look like little
pansies come.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Out my, goodness, gracious all, right, man he, said you
got anything to do With. Michigan gheit this? Smoke how
about Ken In. Stockton you're on the couple Of Fox Sports.
Radio who are you? Trash And Ken Well?

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Kelvin he was, right. MAN i couldn't keep listening and
listening To Rob poker here showing. This Matthew stanford has
a bad, games throw two. Picks rob's already to throw him.

Speaker 11 (36:01):
Back into detroitments just because you've been doing ready for nineteen.
Eighty bob gets excited about his When mattiscepbord, fails he's
waiting for the four hundred yards and four. Interceptions he's,
no it's not even.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
The everyth race no. More he's already down on the,
rams but you don't want BLESS i Blessed.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Covin all, Right, Wow wow he's back with your. Boy
he's such a big flip, flop. Unbelievable all, Right, uh
how About justin In New. Mexico you're in the couple
Of Fox Sports. Radio who are you Trashing? Justin?

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Hey good ignan.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
Guys how you?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Doing what's? Upbody?

Speaker 6 (36:41):
Hey everything's gravy. Man look, FIRST i want to Transhal,
jackson dark. Man you cannot think you can have a
career in THIS nfl saying That i'm just Gonna i'm
gonna take them, pitch, bro you cannot do.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
That.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
Man this kid is gonna be. HURT i feel bad
for him because he don't the right leadership in that.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Order he.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Needs he needs a, mentor somebody who can Shake Troy
aikman needs to talk to.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Him.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Man this kid needs some, guidance, man because he has.
Talent AND i guess that's Why Dave ball got fired
running design place for the kid to get his head,
now dol Checking lee THE, ncaa, Man, uh they got
to fix this. Situation. BRO i understand what the coaches are.
Doing the players are. Doing transfer. Portal we got to

(37:28):
stop letting this happen within the season. Though, man that's
ALL i got to, say, guys have a good, night right.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
DOUBTS i appreciate. It, yeah we're gonna talk a little
bit more about, that BUT i get. It it makes
it weird for the. Kids do players themselves trying to make.
DECISIONS i got to make decisions that we're timing the.
Coaches you, Know i'm not saying. Lank kevin was, LIKE
i can't wait to leave you. Guys i'm sure you
built incredible. Relationships can't wait for our number three coming.
UP i Think kelvin's gonna Trash Lebron. James is that? True?
Yeah no, Way, yeah about to get this. Smoke this.

(37:55):
Unbelievable don't believe. IT i want to hear. This gonna
Make lebron Where mitten's out in the colon the thumbs
down like he Did Dylan brooks
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