December 15, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Matthew Stafford or Josh Allen is more deserving of the NFL MVP award, and tell us why they love hearing the Chicago Bears players talk smack about Shedeur Sanders after their big win. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss the death of the Kansas City Chiefs Dynasty, the unfortunate injuries suffered by Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parsons, his expectations for Philip Rivers moving forward, and much more!
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a lot to get to and uh, the Rams, Rob
g beat the Lions.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I was there yesterday, you were there.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I sent it. I wasn't mad. Robgi knows the pick.
You know my pick THEMS. I picked the Rams, believe
it or not. I did pick the Lions to lose.
I said, if they're going to go on a run
and make the post, they had to win them all.
Mary Mack, I gotta be real, said the one they
can lose is to the Ram. Like, that's a better team.
You can be like, hey, we lost to them, I'm
okay with that. You can't lose to the Vikings.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Why can't a good team? If the beat a good team,
That's what I'm saying. Oh you saying why can't?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
No, I just don't think they I don't think they
win that game.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You feel way better about their chance to.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I like the way they played now, but losing Brian
Branch that we be walking into that. I was like,
that's just gonna be tough, man. And it was exactly
a good game, but they couldn't get it done. Ram's
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Rob g a little little bit. It's not a full
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Speaker 8 (04:28):
Yeah, I mean, you guys talked about it. The MVP
ra scene up in. Matthew Stafford has been the favorite
most of the season. Him and Drake May kind of
battling it out right there. Matthew Stafford, surprise, surprise, supplanted
himself once again as the odds on favorite to win
the NFL MVP. He's currently a heavy minus three hundred
favorite according to bet mgm Lamar Mitchell friend of the
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show and if the way things are going on right now.
Of course, they had a big game this Thursday. Demonte
Adams questionable with that hamstring injury. This game on Thursday
between the Rams and the Seahawks not only could determin
in the NFC West Champion, the one seed in the NFC,
and the MVP all coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Because if he has a stinker in that game, that
could alter huge game for Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Rob I watched that game.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I was there obviously, And I just saw Matthew Stafford
continue to have a season like he's never had. And
Matthew Stafford has had really good seasons before. And I
think a couple of reasons why I throw an interception
to start the game, right, he did throw an interception.
I'm just saying. I know he threw an interception.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
He threw it interception, And now he ended up throwing
up with some other touchdowns, throw some amazing passes, obviously,
some ended up with three hundred plus yards three touchdowns.
I believe it was and right now continue to have
added to his MVP candidacy. A couple of reasons why
to me when you look at him and maybe again
Josh Allen, who's in there now you look at some
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of their stats. Now, they're obviously two different players. Matthew
Staford ain't run nowhere, he ain't chasing down an ice
cream truck. But Josh Allen, of course is one of
the best, if not the best ever. That's kind of
the duel. So touchdowns when you look at it, twenty
five passing touchdowns for Josh Allen, thirty seven for Matthew
Stafford thirty seven.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
He only has five innerceptions.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
He's having his best year ever and he's having at
the advanced age of thirty seven. Him and Sean McVay
are really cooking up. He's got great weapons on the outside.
They all got a little nicked up yesterday. We have
to see how that plays out. He has a passer
rating one hundred and twelve. Couple of things also to
note to me, which has him still looking up, looking
down on everyone else, just by hair on his chinny
chin chin. Also, if he wins the division, that's the
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division with the Seahawks, who are a good team, and
also with the forty nine ers who are a good team,
both really good teams, and that'll be huge to me
as well. Winning that division, well, I think that's the
that's the ceiling that if he wins that, you win
that division, your stats say that keep about the same
where they are the trajectory. To me, that's the winning thing.
He would have won a very tough division.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, if he loses, you he's not the MVP.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I gotta see everything plays out. But that to me
is this, No I got you. That to me seals
the deal. You win this NFC West, which is incredibly difficult,
and you're still putting up these incredible numbers. Again, I
did thirty seven touchdowns, five interceptions, And again we've been
hearing it. Even when he was in Detroit, you were
hearing it. He's your favorite quarter's favorite quarterback. He's your
favorite quarterback, favorite quarterback. He's the guy always a guns
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looking at arm most talented, look at his passing ability.
He finally will have an opportunity to add that to
his you know, his his award winning trophy shelf at
the house, and I think a lot of people will
want to clown to crown him that.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I think a lot of people would enjoy that storyline.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Look at the old man, the old gun slinger, having
his best season ever at this advanced age, at thirty seven,
you know, getting maybe potentially the number one seed in
the NFC. So I think that to me still keeps
him ahead to anyone else. Is the numbers themselves, which
is incredible numbers. The factor leading division, possibly can win
one of the toughest divisions in football. They might win
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their conference as well, tough conference as well. And so
to me, he's the leading candidate right now. Mathew Stafford
still Matthew Stafford lost the MVP yesterday. He is not
the favorite to win the MVP. First of all, yesterday
against the Lions, he didn't do anything special.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
The Lions have given up one three hundred and seventy
seven passing yards and ten passing touchdowns their last four games.
Opposing quarterbacks have thrown for at least three hundred and
sixty yards in three of the last four games. Oh,
he didn't do anything specially. He's doing what everybody has
done against the Lions. Here's why Matthew Stafford lost the
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MVP yesterday because.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
We saw another game of the year from Josh Allen.
He's down twenty one nothing on the road to the
best team in the AFC, and he engineers an unbelievable comeback.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All right, he did it in Week fourteen against the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That were dead.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He brought them back. And Week one, can we forget?
Can we not forget that game against the Ravens. Ravens
put forty points on him, and guess what, Josh Allen
rallied them in the fourth quarter and they won that game.
In those three games of the year, are you ready, Yeah,
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three hundred and thirty two yards per game, eleven total
touchdowns and no interceptions. And I'm gonna tell you this
is gonna remind me of the year when Aaron Rodgers
beat out Tom Brady for the MVP. You know why,
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Tom Brady had bigger numbers. Tom Brady had five thousand,
three hundred and sixteen passing yards and forty three touchdowns.
Aaron Rodgers had forty one hundred and fifteen yards and
thirty seven touchd downs.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Had the same record.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But guess what Aaron Rodgers had bigger wins, rob g
They went to the desert, right You remember the Cardinals
was seven to zero without Davonte.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Adams and he beat them.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They beat the forty nine ers in San Francisco with
eighteen seconds to go. You remember that drove him down
kicked the field goal. That's what people look at. When
did you win? What kind of wins did you have?
Yesterday was a win for the Ages down twenty one nothing.
Everybody's telling me that the Patriots are back. Look how
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great they are. How they win that game? Josh Allen,
that's an MVP. He didn't have one great game, he
had three. And we saw it before when Lamar Jackson
went to San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, and put on a show on Christmas night to
beat the forty nine ers there.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And Brock Purty and guests who won the MVP.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just said, last night's game to me was the
turning point, because that's a third two in a row
where you're down and you're out. Look at these incredible comebacks.
And it's him. You keep saying it all the time,
Matthew Stafford has. It's loaded with telling pooka canoe on
whatever his name.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Man, if you don't stop it, canoeing down the river,
poo pookah what his name? And Philip Rivers you got
a canoeing down the rivers right now? You got all right,
pooka whatever, Nicouah, Nicoua, pooka nicola whatever the YouTube that's right,
Davante Adams.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I can go on and on on that he has
all these weapons. Yes, he should, he should be rolling.
Are you kidding? You're not doing it with lunch meat.
You doing it with filet unch me.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You know how many other m vps was flaid up?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You know how many other m.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Vps at a lobster and scrimps, scrimps. But I'm telling
you that Josh Allen has lunched me. Let me tell
you what, Josh, Well, you know I've been saying that.
You know that's one of my things. Now let me
say this a couple of things Josh Allen. First of all,
Josh Allen, you got your best player in the league.
Whatever you want to put a one, two three like,
that's that's not crazy him being right there in the mix.
A couple of things, while I still don't think it's
quite him, Josh Allen is going up against Josh Allen,
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and I don't know that we would look at this
season and say Josh Allen is out Josh and Allening
last year. And I think that plays a factor. For
anytime you're an MVP any sport, it gets difficult when
people compare you to what we've said.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Give a MVP to a thirty seven year old who's
only who's like a two time like like.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
That makes more sense to me. I mean, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, that doesn't hide.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's what what I'm saying that they're gonna look at
Josh Allen to go, he was the MVP last year.
Look at what he did without any weapons, and look
what matt did with a low They added Davante Adams
to the mix.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And if they don't win, if they lose to Seattle,
ain't no way to win the MVP.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, the Seattle had a nerd almost lose to the
Colts to a sixty seven year old now Matthew Stafford again,
thirty seven touchdowns to five interception. I know, it's crazy.
A couple other things. You got some bad losses. You
got the loss to the Falcons via the Bills, you
got the lost to the Dolphins early, and then you
that that had to come back against the Bengals, as
(13:28):
well as one of the games you just mentioned. So
those to me are games where I say, if you're superior,
team superior, why are we doing this? Why are we
struggling against these things? Why are we losing to the five?
You don't blow out everybody but I. But again, when
we talk about this, when I have to nick pick
between people, Rob, this is what you have to do
when you start talking about two greats. I got a nitpick, right,
(13:50):
You're gonna say, Matthew Stafford doing an interception in the
beginning of the game, Well, he bought out the rest
of the game. So you got a nitpick, and that's
what I have to do with Josh Allen right now.
And also, he had some middling games this season where
he was all right, wasn't great, like I told you,
wasn't great against the Falcons, had a couple of games
where you know, yeah, wasn't anything spectacular. So to me,
(14:12):
I think there were too many games where Josh Allen
was just eh. And now he's hiring to have some
good ones. He is incredible, good to great. He is incredible.
He is the reigning MVP. But I think what Matthew
Stafford has been doing has been spectacular. You add to
the fact that he is thirty seven. I think that
plays into his favor. I think it plays into his
favor that people have been wanting to crown him but
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not having the reason two other resources to right, they couldn't.
They could have crown him a long time ago, years old.
We got two now to Pro Bowls. That's my point this.
We're not asking who going to the Hall of Fame, Rob,
We're asking who's the MVP of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm just telling you their three games are better than
any of the games Stafford had.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
He has the marriage to Josh Allen. Down twenty one
nothing that ain't Matthew Stafford. Fod He ain't getting down
twenty one nothing. And again, when you're.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
About about getting down, it's about coming back and winning
the game, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
But I can't come back if I ain't getting down
it like that. I'm just telling you that's what people
look at, and I think they're going to look at
Look at what he's doing. His best season ever. He's
had good seasons of great seasons before Matthew Stafford. Now
he's doing it with thirty seven touchdown, five inceptions at
thirty seven and could win the division and win the conference.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
What a story, What a sendoff? If this is it
for it would be the worst thing.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If stat Padford won an MVP.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You can't call him that this year. Okay, come on,
you can't call him that this year. It would be
the worst.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who's your pick to win the NFL MVP this season?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Stapp?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean Matthew Stafford or Jock on my name. We'll
continue that conversation next with you.
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Rob and I talking about eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. I think Matthew Stafford still to MVP Josh
Allen right there on his heels. He should be MVP
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training MVP, you say, Josh Allen just took it over
with his performance against the Patriots. That coming back against
the Patriots, that was that was a huge I can't
believe I'm the Patriot. How we lose that? Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. So we got Drew in
New Jersey. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up Drew?
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Hey, guys, if you want to go by definition, there's
no way that anyone here does not believe that he's
the most Josh Allen's not the most valuable player on
his team, he means the most. Obviously you take him out.
I think he's more valuable than Stafford. But if you're
just going off of what the voters say, it's hard
not to give it to.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Staff They what, you gonna have way better numbers than
Josh Allen last year.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean, jos Is No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm just going on, if you did Lamar not have
way better numbers, way better.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
The issue. The issue was last year his Josh Allen
based on all his total touchdowns with his.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Rushing no, no, no, no.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
And he added and he added Derek Hendy.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
The numbers, no issue, no, but that they added Davante Adams.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
What are you talking about? What drew?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What's the difference if you're taking away Derrick Henry saying
that that just I mean that Lamar got him, Stafford
got Davante Adams arguably.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
One of the greatest receivers who ever played in the league.
That doesn't matter.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
Adams is like fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Does that matter, He's having a good year. Stop it,
come on now.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think that I think one of the issues with
is Dereck Henry. Issue was that Derrick Henry. For a
long time we were like, is he offensive player to
the year the first two thirds of the season, so
one of those you almost be so good you might
take a voter something away from me with Lamar, but
he didn't remember that. I'm just saying I think that
was part of the narrative. It was like, dang, he's
so good is he the first you know, eight nineteen games?
Because he's going crazy, like Sakwan didn't even get a
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first place with Let just think about it.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I don't know. Running backs need to have their own union.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Rock can get together, go ahead something a Rockefeller in Louisiana.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
You under saying Rockefeller for no reason, like, but that's
the New York, ain't you?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Hey? What what's up? Rockefeller?
Speaker 11 (19:26):
What's happening? Calvin?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Good?
Speaker 11 (19:27):
To have your back, man, Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Sir, appreciate you. Rock Feller, how you.
Speaker 11 (19:31):
No good man? The one thing I learned about Rob
and listened to Rob for years, The one thing I
learned about Rob Stafferton threw one hundred and passed in
the season with three interceptions, and Rob still going to
try to way to put him now well, the one
thing about Stafford May's been to me, miss miss cretiguedou
His whole career and Detroit, he never had a good
Coach's best coach for Jim Carwell, he had always.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Jim Caldon went to the Super Bowl. What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's what he's saying. He says, okay, But he did
have a good coach, didn't he They let him go?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Why they let him go?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Rob you was there?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Were you here? I can't remember?
Speaker 11 (20:05):
But that was the best coach he had. He had
a b little average offensive line every year. He never
had a great defense consistently. Tom Brady had a top
five defense every year he had.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Matthew Stafford had a top five defense the year they
lost to Dallas.
Speaker 11 (20:22):
Let me tell you when they got stop stop.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Giving them what you call.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Matthew Stafford his first ten years in the league had
nothing but empty calorie stats.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
The Lions.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I covered every game, Rockefeller, I respect you. I covered
every game they were The Lions were down twenty one
to nothing in the first quarter. Game after game after game.
You watch the games.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You be putting a little extra sauce on that round.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
They had a few seasons, I mean make the postseason
three times, which means they had to have some season
when they were.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Up twenty one.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
You putting a little extra chip on that dip with
the at just driver, you'd.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Be saying, I'm gonna argue with you later.
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Congratulations Mardel Top, that's great, grats hey, Rob.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
We smacked them, Bro, what we was just score forty
nine to seventh? Oh no, no, no, they scored thirteen points.
They got thirteen. I'm sorry, I don't want to they
had yeah, forty nine, the thirteen, forty nine, fourteen something
like that. Yeah, it was a demolition.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
That was unbelievable. Was it supposed to be close? Or
y'all new year? It was gonna blow the mountain?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh for a state title?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
For him?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
The right sometimes you get from this.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
We played day Lostile obviously a story program, but man,
they running like a nineteen eighty offense.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man, I watched that game. It was on Spectrum. I
watched that game. Yeah, they've run the ball so much
and they passed like once every fifteen to twenty plays.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Oh yeah, you can't. You can't play football today with
they they're not preparing them kids for college, but they
you know, they went undefeateing the regular season throughout the playoffs. Yeah,
that ain't how you should be playing football now if
you're trying to prepare kids to college.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeb I saw a ponytail on the sideline. I should
have known that was Who is that?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right? That's right? He TJ.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know some of your brother and you know, I
got an issue with guys who played football and their
analysts and shows whatever and refuse to really look at
players or whatever and just give them mad respect or
you know, rest on what they've done. I saw a
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couple guys this past week talk about that the Chiefs
were going to run the table and make the playoff,
and I'm just like, what what Chiefs team were you watching?
Seriously because I just didn't see it. What table were
they running? And are you surprised as poorly as they've played?
Because if you look at take out that four touchdown
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game against Dallas?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Right was that Dallas? Yeah? Take that out?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Mahomes had three touchdowns and seven picks in the other
four games. Like, what game were you winning? How surprised
are you that the Chiefs got knocked out?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And they need real ones like us on there going
that's going to tell the truth regardless of what's going on.
That's first and foremost. Right, if you look at the
Chiefs the way they played this year, it's like it's
just not their year. And you can see it. Offensively,
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they just couldn't get anything going. Like you can say, oh,
the defense didn't play well. The defense is seventh in
the NFL, thank you, thank you, the seventh in the NFL.
And so the offense did not play. They did not
hold up their end of the bargain point white period.
The offense did not do their end of it. And
so when that happens, you got to be perfect. You
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got to be perfect. Pat Mahomes was under five last week.
Pat Mahomes wasn't having a great game this past week.
It's just unfortunate that now you had this knee injury.
He may missed next year. Right, Yeah, And it's because
of Patrick Mahomes that many thought, Okay, they got Pat Mahomes,
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they they can run the table. But if you've been
watching any games, offensively was a struggle for the Chiefs
all season.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Let me ask you this one sports spot on TJ
spot on how do you okay?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
So if you're if you're sitting there, what do you
do now?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You got you know, you got him out for potentially
the obviously the rest of the season, maybe even next season.
How do you retool? Obviously, money salary cap is type
for them. What is it they need to do. One
of the things I said, they got to start going
out and finding him a dog Deavonte Adams type, like
go find him.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Don't capol.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
They got to find a way, find a way.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Didn't they say when Rushie Rice came thank you Matt,
they would be fine. He came back and they weren't fine.
My opinion is it the Chiefs need a guy with
Pat Mahomes. They were spoiled with Tyreek Kill because not
only was Tyreek Kill fast, he was extremely quick, and
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so they need a guy like that. Or they used
to say, you know what, we're gonna feature Ez if
you're worthy, and let's see if he can be that guy,
because he was that guy in the super Bowl. But
it was too late when they started the future him.
You draft him in the first round, Let's make him
the focal point at offense and see if he can
do it. And if he can't, then you got to
find a guy because they had Hollywood. Brown has been
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successful in the league. Obviously Travis Kelsey. He's playing better
this year than he played last.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Year, dropping numbers way better last year.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Kevin, everybody drops, he dropped. Everybody drops the ball. But
when you're struggling, now those drops are over emphasized. Now
you're struggling. He playing better this year, not even just
a little bit a lot better this year than he
played last year. It's not Travis Kelsey. They're just not
good on offense this year.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Hey, let's go here. I mean disrespect to the game.
Philip Rivers forty four hasn't played in five years. I'm sorry,
And you know what, I want the coach to lose
every game and not make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm not even gonna hide it.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, DJ.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
And they go to Seattle and hold Seattle to no
touchdowns at home and you don't win that game?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Like, like seriously, And I'm not gonna be the one
right here who's gonna be like, oh, Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Gave them a chance. They were No, they didn't win
the game.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
They didn't win the game, and had he won it,
they would have thrown the parade for him.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm just saying, what are they doing? What are they doing?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
For sayings Pyking is he sees the playoffs are right there.
We just gotta win the game or two. He sees
it right there, and it's like, Okay, who can I
sign that gives us the best chance of winning? And
I don't mind them signing Philip Rivers because he knows
the offense. It's a seamless transition.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Now have you seen what he looks like out there
in that uniform? Come on, tjmes.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
The problem is he hadn't played for five years. That
is the biggest problem. But think about what I'm about
to say. What quarterback could have gone in there and
done what Philip Rivers did being signed the week of
the game. Not many, it's anybody. I don't care who
they signed. If a god's on the streets, you're on
the street for a reason. If you're a backup, you're
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a backup for a reason. But so for him to
come in and do what he did, I applaud him.
I really do depense played great.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But you got to win that game when you don't
give up a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Seriously, how do you not win that game?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Because they played a team defensively in the Seattle Seahawks,
that's very very good. I mean they have them with
six field goals. Six field goals, and so the coach
defense was saying, well, but I can't even think of
any quarterback that's not on the team right now that
would have come in there, understood the offense, understood protections
and done better than what Philip Rivers is. I'm happy that.
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I'm happy that the fact the forty four year old
dude that hadn't played in five years coaching high school
football went in there and played as well as he did.
That's not easy to do, not easy at all.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
You know what we just got.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
This might be breaking new Steve de Seger TJ who's Mazada,
said he is coming out of retirement. That's what you're
saying right now. You got to inspired, TJ. Is that
what you're saying, you coming out now?
Speaker 11 (29:32):
No?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
No, no, no no. Like I will say this, there's
a lot of guys that played skilled positions that probably
could still play. That's at my age, Roader myself, Chad too.
The guys that really keep themselves in shape. But you
can find a receiver a lot of different places now
it's hard to find guys with that toughness, that determination,
that self belief that can really make plays when when
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it gets sticky. But that had never happened at any
position but quarterback. No other position. When the guy not
have played for five years and they call you at
forty four or only the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, only only when you're the coach is friends with you.
That's the only time that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And yesterday is also very you know that, no other situation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It was that, And that's why I don't like the
NFL cronyism. Uh nepotism, you know, TJ. That's what that
league is all about. And Philip and.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Philip Rivers was the first person.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yesterday who received a game check, his pension check and
Social Security all at the same time.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I've seen that. I've seen that post restart, that insurance.
I mean, you talk, you look at this and we
ain't talking about this, but you look at the Raiders
one of the worst run games in the National Football League.
You know who the on line coach and the run
game coordinator is.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Who's that?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
All right? You talk what you just nepotism right right,
it's Pete Carroll soon.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh wow, yeah, yep, there's another one.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Fire him though, no everybody else gets fired, not Pete
carrol Son.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Hey, real quick, thirty forty seconds for me, real quick.
Two teams AFC.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Soud. We didn't see this coming.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
The Colts were having, you know, obviously a good season,
and we just talk about the injury. The Jags are
ten and four winners, a five straight Texans winners a
sixth straight at nine to five? Are those two real teams?
Are that good teams?
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Man? I'm not going to the Texans. Would I'm not
trying to play the Texans in the playoffs the way
that defense is playing. If you give CJ. Stroud some
time and you have to play the Texans in the playoffs,
good luck. And is Trevor Lawrence starting.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
To fulfill finally, finally the promise.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
That he had coming into the league The way he
played yesterday, great, great game, maybe at the best game
of his career. And so Liam Cohen, great coordinator, and
we do know that, and so maybe, just maybe this
is the coach that Trevor Lawrence has needed his entire career.
Time will tell, But I'm not trying to play the
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Houston in the playoffs. Not with that defense, all right,
he is.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
T J Whosh was out of hush Man. Appreciate you
as always.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You're the best, my man, You're the best.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Y'all the best. I'm just trying to be like y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Man, great work, thanks buddy.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
You like how he said that, he said he in
shape out here in the streets.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
He could go, you know, get three three receptions forty yards,
maybe a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I heard what he said right there.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
But getting the medical insurance we started, that's real.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That's real. That's a real thing, man. Five year twenty
just saved for those fifteen kids. The craziest part is
Robb get to fifteen kids. Like, he's not stopping. He's
not like, all right, we're done that team. Who's the
other one who has all the kids? Alexander's right, se
Alexander on with us in the Super Bowl every year?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Every year?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Got another kid?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah if his wife's I mean they got like fourteen kids, right,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Rob g.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
He needs to come back. Get a couple of snaps.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, oh yeah he could.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
No, he needs a couple of snips.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I don't know, Rober, you better recommend it. And I
got a guy who knows, the guy who can get
a snip on with you for real. Hey, rookie, got rookie,
we'll tell you about that. I ain't snipping yet.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I just can't snip away yet, Rogerie, I'm too nervous
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The Bears get another big win. They blow out the
Browns in the process. Should do or I think three
interceptions didn't look good went on them for the for
the Bears. Yeah, why you said that? For the divisionally?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, just like not not having a letdown or you
know what I mean, like they can't they couldn't afford it,
and they beat them and it was no contest what
I'm saying. You know what, and you know one of
those games coming off the loss with the Packers, you
know what I mean, you're at home and they went
at it.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
And what I like about.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
It is that they beat them down to you know
what I mean, you didn't just like we had we
had to kick a last second field go or some
crazy we had to catch an interception. They want it
and they dominate and they show I like to see
that from teams. Put your foot on somebody. He can't
do it all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But that was a game to me where where the
where Cleveland was and everybody was talking about how good
the Cleveland defense is and uh, not so much anymore.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Mile's Garrett is the beast.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
He's going to break the record and shatter it and
probably put it up another two or three.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
If I was coaching against him, I'd have four guys
on him.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I'm just that's what he's insane for.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
God, you're not getting the record.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, I don't care. Everybody else is open if they get.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
If the Bears know, we know you.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
If the Bears you said you would block a girl
who tore every ligament and that's wanted the one more
bucket to be the all time scorer.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
You said, boxing one on her.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
She is not getting a basket.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Rob g.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
But somebody tried. The son should do a little bit.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
That's right, she do a Saturn's worst game is in
her career point plan period eighteen of thirty five.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I know you know why because I didn't get any
text messages from people during the game.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Sacked five times through three picks. They got blowed out
thirty one to three Chicago. After the game.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
CJ.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Gardner Johnson cornerback for the Bears, had this to say
the Chicago Sun Times about faces Door. This is a
great quote. It's about time he ran into some problems.
He's a great young player. They're a great young group,
playing hard, physical. He's just going against a lot of
events that have something to play for. Sometimes you got
to teach a rookie how to day in a rookies place.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Love it, absolutely love it. The Bears are feeling themselves
as they should. They've they've Depending on where you were,
they're either where you thought they'd be, or they're overachieved.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
No ball ten win. Who had them for ten wins?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Somebody?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, quite a few people had them win in the division.
Once they got Ben Johnson to go with Kayler Williams.
I was I actually was surprised quite a few people
had that. But not only that, just more so like, hey,
I don't mind we talk about this all the time
like it was Kaitlyn Clark. I don't mind people getting
a little rough on rookies, talking smack to rookies. I
feel like that's what it's supposed to be. We've been
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in this league, I'm established. Like he mentioned, we're playing
for some we're trying to win the division, maybe win
the conference.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
But the way that they were talking about Kaitlin before
she even got in the league was a little rough
to me. We're talking about once you're in you know
what I mean, like like like they were acting like
she could she wasn't gonna be able to plug that day.
I took it too far. But the idea of like
I have to bow down and work with somebody. He's
an NFL player like us, so a lot of respect
from making it to the league, but you gonna.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Get this work.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
You're gonna you know, you're a rookie fifth rounder at
that and you know I would go on and on.
So I absolutely have no problem with that. I like,
I like people being reminded every now and again. And
if you're shuder, you take that on the chin, you
try to bounce back. But yeah, I don't have a
problem with that. I have a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, not at all. I don't think he said anything
that was crazy or whatever. Just that was football and
that was that was fair game. And he did have
a bad just a bad game.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
And by the way, I don't need I don't know
if he did this, Robb g correct me if this happened,
But I don't also need to turn around like the
whole thing from Shador, like you know it's gonna be
what it is, and it's tough, and you know, I
am a rookie and sometimes rookie is gonna have to Okay,
I got it. I don't sometimes I don't need all
that just yeah he right man, it was a rough one. Now.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
The one thing he said that was kind of out
of pocket talking about the Jerry Judy intercept the chest.
He's like, yeah, you know, Jerry know, he's like to
have that one back. That was a big playing in
the game. Was like, yeah, maybe you should have said that,
my guy.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
That's the weird Yeah. You you learned veteran ways because
if somebody ask you, you think you're just answered, but
all the picks, yeah, you gotta learn how to do that.
Be sure that.
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My goodness, gracious, what a weekend of football Sunday.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I was rolling around in it.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Some good games, some great comeback, some obviously breaking news
on injuries.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
So it was a while Sunday for sure.
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He is. I'm trying to tell y'all for real, we
work with the best people we do, and I mean
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Robbie already know what he coming with me? Oh heave,
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You're not going? What are you?
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Where you go? As soon?
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That's his Yeah, double drup talking about Ben Maller for
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Double dribble. Well, I talked to Aaron the other day.
Hold on and Ben, because that was a solo. You said,
talk to Aaron. I talked to Aaron. I didn't say
I talk to I know. I'm just trying to get
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Wide receiver and of course co host of up on
Game right here on Fox Sports Radio. So we got
a lot to get to and uh, the Rams, Rob
g beat the Lions.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I was there yesterday, you were there.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I sent it. I wasn't mad. Robgi knows the pick.
You know my pick THEMS. I picked the Rams, believe
it or not. I did pick the Lions to lose.
I said, if they're going to go on a run
and make the post, they had to win them all.
Mary Mack, I gotta be real, said the one they
can lose is to the Ram. Like, that's a better team.
You can be like, hey, we lost to them, I'm
okay with that. You can't lose to the Vikings.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Why can't a good team? If the beat a good team,
That's what I'm saying. Oh you saying why can't?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
No, I just don't think they I don't think they
win that game.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
You feel way better about their chance to.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I like the way they played now, but losing Brian
Branch that we be walking into that. I was like,
that's just gonna be tough, man. And it was exactly
a good game, but they couldn't get it done. Ram's
got some fans now when y'all winning. It ain't quite
what you think, but Ram's trying to get some fans now,
Rob g a little little bit. It's not a full
house yet, but they're trying to get some fans at
the end of SOFI Stadium.
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Yeah, I mean, you guys talked about it. The MVP
ra scene up in. Matthew Stafford has been the favorite
most of the season. Him and Drake May kind of
battling it out right there. Matthew Stafford, surprise, surprise, supplanted
himself once again as the odds on favorite to win
the NFL MVP. He's currently a heavy minus three hundred
favorite according to bet mgm Lamar Mitchell friend of the
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show and if the way things are going on right now.
Of course, they had a big game this Thursday. Demonte
Adams questionable with that hamstring injury. This game on Thursday
between the Rams and the Seahawks not only could determin
in the NFC West Champion, the one seed in the NFC,
and the MVP all coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Because if he has a stinker in that game, that
could alter huge game for Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Rob I watched that game.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I was there obviously, And I just saw Matthew Stafford
continue to have a season like he's never had. And
Matthew Stafford has had really good seasons before. And I
think a couple of reasons why I throw an interception
to start the game, right, he did throw an interception.
I'm just saying. I know he threw an interception.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
He threw it interception, And now he ended up throwing
up with some other touchdowns, throw some amazing passes, obviously,
some ended up with three hundred plus yards three touchdowns.
I believe it was and right now continue to have
added to his MVP candidacy. A couple of reasons why
to me when you look at him and maybe again
Josh Allen, who's in there now you look at some
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of their stats. Now, they're obviously two different players. Matthew
Staford ain't run nowhere, he ain't chasing down an ice
cream truck. But Josh Allen, of course is one of
the best, if not the best ever. That's kind of
the duel. So touchdowns when you look at it, twenty
five passing touchdowns for Josh Allen, thirty seven for Matthew
Stafford thirty seven.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
He only has five innerceptions.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
He's having his best year ever and he's having at
the advanced age of thirty seven. Him and Sean McVay
are really cooking up. He's got great weapons on the outside.
They all got a little nicked up yesterday. We have
to see how that plays out. He has a passer
rating one hundred and twelve. Couple of things also to
note to me, which has him still looking up, looking
down on everyone else, just by hair on his chinny
chin chin. Also, if he wins the division, that's the
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division with the Seahawks, who are a good team, and
also with the forty nine ers who are a good team,
both really good teams, and that'll be huge to me
as well. Winning that division, well, I think that's the
that's the ceiling that if he wins that, you win
that division, your stats say that keep about the same
where they are the trajectory. To me, that's the winning thing.
He would have won a very tough division.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, if he loses, you he's not the MVP.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I gotta see everything plays out. But that to me
is this, No I got you. That to me seals
the deal. You win this NFC West, which is incredibly difficult,
and you're still putting up these incredible numbers. Again, I
did thirty seven touchdowns, five interceptions, And again we've been
hearing it. Even when he was in Detroit, you were
hearing it. He's your favorite quarter's favorite quarterback. He's your
favorite quarterback, favorite quarterback. He's the guy always a guns
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looking at arm most talented, look at his passing ability.
He finally will have an opportunity to add that to
his you know, his his award winning trophy shelf at
the house, and I think a lot of people will
want to clown to crown him that.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I think a lot of people would enjoy that storyline.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Look at the old man, the old gun slinger, having
his best season ever at this advanced age, at thirty seven,
you know, getting maybe potentially the number one seed in
the NFC. So I think that to me still keeps
him ahead to anyone else. Is the numbers themselves, which
is incredible numbers. The factor leading division, possibly can win
one of the toughest divisions in football. They might win
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their conference as well, tough conference as well. And so
to me, he's the leading candidate right now. Mathew Stafford
still Matthew Stafford lost the MVP yesterday. He is not
the favorite to win the MVP. First of all, yesterday
against the Lions, he didn't do anything special.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
The Lions have given up one three hundred and seventy
seven passing yards and ten passing touchdowns their last four games.
Opposing quarterbacks have thrown for at least three hundred and
sixty yards in three of the last four games. Oh,
he didn't do anything specially. He's doing what everybody has
done against the Lions. Here's why Matthew Stafford lost the
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MVP yesterday because.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
We saw another game of the year from Josh Allen.
He's down twenty one nothing on the road to the
best team in the AFC, and he engineers an unbelievable comeback.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All right, he did it in Week fourteen against the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
That were dead.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
He brought them back. And Week one, can we forget?
Can we not forget that game against the Ravens. Ravens
put forty points on him, and guess what, Josh Allen
rallied them in the fourth quarter and they won that game.
In those three games of the year, are you ready, Yeah,
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three hundred and thirty two yards per game, eleven total
touchdowns and no interceptions. And I'm gonna tell you this
is gonna remind me of the year when Aaron Rodgers
beat out Tom Brady for the MVP. You know why,
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Tom Brady had bigger numbers. Tom Brady had five thousand,
three hundred and sixteen passing yards and forty three touchdowns.
Aaron Rodgers had forty one hundred and fifteen yards and
thirty seven touchd downs.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Had the same record.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But guess what Aaron Rodgers had bigger wins, rob g
They went to the desert, right You remember the Cardinals
was seven to zero without Davonte.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Adams and he beat them.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They beat the forty nine ers in San Francisco with
eighteen seconds to go. You remember that drove him down
kicked the field goal. That's what people look at. When
did you win? What kind of wins did you have?
Yesterday was a win for the Ages down twenty one nothing.
Everybody's telling me that the Patriots are back. Look how
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great they are. How they win that game? Josh Allen,
that's an MVP. He didn't have one great game, he
had three. And we saw it before when Lamar Jackson
went to San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, and put on a show on Christmas night to
beat the forty nine ers there.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And Brock Purty and guests who won the MVP.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I just said, last night's game to me was the
turning point, because that's a third two in a row
where you're down and you're out. Look at these incredible comebacks.
And it's him. You keep saying it all the time,
Matthew Stafford has. It's loaded with telling pooka canoe on
whatever his name.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Man, if you don't stop it, canoeing down the river,
poo pookah what his name? And Philip Rivers you got
a canoeing down the rivers right now? You got all right,
pooka whatever, Nicouah, Nicoua, pooka nicola whatever the YouTube that's right,
Davante Adams.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I can go on and on on that he has
all these weapons. Yes, he should, he should be rolling.
Are you kidding? You're not doing it with lunch meat.
You doing it with filet unch me.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You know how many other m vps was flaid up?
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You know how many other m.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Vps at a lobster and scrimps, scrimps. But I'm telling
you that Josh Allen has lunched me. Let me tell
you what, Josh, Well, you know I've been saying that.
You know that's one of my things. Now let me
say this a couple of things Josh Allen. First of all,
Josh Allen, you got your best player in the league.
Whatever you want to put a one, two three like,
that's that's not crazy him being right there in the mix.
A couple of things, while I still don't think it's
quite him, Josh Allen is going up against Josh Allen,
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and I don't know that we would look at this
season and say Josh Allen is out Josh and Allening
last year. And I think that plays a factor. For
anytime you're an MVP any sport, it gets difficult when
people compare you to what we've said.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Give a MVP to a thirty seven year old who's
only who's like a two time like like.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
That makes more sense to me. I mean, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, that doesn't hide.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's what what I'm saying that they're gonna look at
Josh Allen to go, he was the MVP last year.
Look at what he did without any weapons, and look
what matt did with a low They added Davante Adams
to the mix.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And if they don't win, if they lose to Seattle,
ain't no way to win the MVP.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Well, the Seattle had a nerd almost lose to the
Colts to a sixty seven year old now Matthew Stafford again,
thirty seven touchdowns to five interception. I know, it's crazy.
A couple other things. You got some bad losses. You
got the loss to the Falcons via the Bills, you
got the lost to the Dolphins early, and then you
that that had to come back against the Bengals, as
(13:28):
well as one of the games you just mentioned. So
those to me are games where I say, if you're superior,
team superior, why are we doing this? Why are we
struggling against these things? Why are we losing to the five?
You don't blow out everybody but I. But again, when
we talk about this, when I have to nick pick
between people, Rob, this is what you have to do
when you start talking about two greats. I got a nitpick, right,
(13:50):
You're gonna say, Matthew Stafford doing an interception in the
beginning of the game, Well, he bought out the rest
of the game. So you got a nitpick, and that's
what I have to do with Josh Allen right now.
And also, he had some middling games this season where
he was all right, wasn't great, like I told you,
wasn't great against the Falcons, had a couple of games
where you know, yeah, wasn't anything spectacular. So to me,
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I think there were too many games where Josh Allen
was just eh. And now he's hiring to have some
good ones. He is incredible, good to great. He is incredible.
He is the reigning MVP. But I think what Matthew
Stafford has been doing has been spectacular. You add to
the fact that he is thirty seven. I think that
plays into his favor. I think it plays into his
favor that people have been wanting to crown him but
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not having the reason two other resources to right, they couldn't.
They could have crown him a long time ago, years old.
We got two now to Pro Bowls. That's my point this.
We're not asking who going to the Hall of Fame, Rob,
We're asking who's the MVP of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm just telling you their three games are better than
any of the games Stafford had.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
He has the marriage to Josh Allen. Down twenty one
nothing that ain't Matthew Stafford. Fod He ain't getting down
twenty one nothing. And again, when you're.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
About about getting down, it's about coming back and winning
the game, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
But I can't come back if I ain't getting down
it like that. I'm just telling you that's what people
look at, and I think they're going to look at
Look at what he's doing. His best season ever. He's
had good seasons of great seasons before Matthew Stafford. Now
he's doing it with thirty seven touchdown, five inceptions at
thirty seven and could win the division and win the conference.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
What a story, What a sendoff? If this is it
for it would be the worst thing.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If stat Padford won an MVP.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You can't call him that this year. Okay, come on,
you can't call him that this year. It would be
the worst.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Who's your pick to win the NFL MVP this season?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Stapp?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean Matthew Stafford or Jock on my name. We'll
continue that conversation next with you.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
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Rob and I talking about eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. I think Matthew Stafford still to MVP Josh
Allen right there on his heels. He should be MVP
(17:25):
training MVP, you say, Josh Allen just took it over
with his performance against the Patriots. That coming back against
the Patriots, that was that was a huge I can't
believe I'm the Patriot. How we lose that? Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. So we got Drew in
New Jersey. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up Drew?
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Hey, guys, if you want to go by definition, there's
no way that anyone here does not believe that he's
the most Josh Allen's not the most valuable player on
his team, he means the most. Obviously you take him out.
I think he's more valuable than Stafford. But if you're
just going off of what the voters say, it's hard
not to give it to.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Staff They what, you gonna have way better numbers than
Josh Allen last year.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I mean, jos Is No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm just going on, if you did Lamar not have
way better numbers, way better.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
The issue. The issue was last year his Josh Allen
based on all his total touchdowns with his.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
Rushing no, no, no, no.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
And he added and he added Derek Hendy.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
The numbers, no issue, no, but that they added Davante Adams.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
What are you talking about? What drew?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What's the difference if you're taking away Derrick Henry saying
that that just I mean that Lamar got him, Stafford
got Davante Adams arguably.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
One of the greatest receivers who ever played in the league.
That doesn't matter.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
Adams is like fifty.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Does that matter, He's having a good year. Stop it,
come on now.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think that I think one of the issues with
is Dereck Henry. Issue was that Derrick Henry. For a
long time we were like, is he offensive player to
the year the first two thirds of the season, so
one of those you almost be so good you might
take a voter something away from me with Lamar, but
he didn't remember that. I'm just saying I think that
was part of the narrative. It was like, dang, he's
so good is he the first you know, eight nineteen games?
Because he's going crazy, like Sakwan didn't even get a
(19:12):
first place with Let just think about it.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
I don't know. Running backs need to have their own union.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Rock can get together, go ahead something a Rockefeller in Louisiana.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
You under saying Rockefeller for no reason, like, but that's
the New York, ain't you?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Hey? What what's up? Rockefeller?
Speaker 11 (19:26):
What's happening? Calvin?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Good?
Speaker 11 (19:27):
To have your back, man, Yes.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Sir, appreciate you. Rock Feller, how you.
Speaker 11 (19:31):
No good man? The one thing I learned about Rob
and listened to Rob for years, The one thing I
learned about Rob Stafferton threw one hundred and passed in
the season with three interceptions, and Rob still going to
try to way to put him now well, the one
thing about Stafford May's been to me, miss miss cretiguedou
His whole career and Detroit, he never had a good
Coach's best coach for Jim Carwell, he had always.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Jim Caldon went to the Super Bowl. What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's what he's saying. He says, okay, But he did
have a good coach, didn't he They let him go?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Why they let him go?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Rob you was there?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Were you here? I can't remember?
Speaker 11 (20:05):
But that was the best coach he had. He had
a b little average offensive line every year. He never
had a great defense consistently. Tom Brady had a top
five defense every year he had.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Matthew Stafford had a top five defense the year they
lost to Dallas.
Speaker 11 (20:22):
Let me tell you when they got stop stop.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Giving them what you call.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Matthew Stafford his first ten years in the league had
nothing but empty calorie stats.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
The Lions.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I covered every game, Rockefeller, I respect you. I covered
every game they were The Lions were down twenty one
to nothing in the first quarter. Game after game after game.
You watch the games.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You be putting a little extra sauce on that round.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
They had a few seasons, I mean make the postseason
three times, which means they had to have some season
when they were.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Up twenty one.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
You putting a little extra chip on that dip with
the at just driver, you'd.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Be saying, I'm gonna argue with you later.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
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Hoo's shady four on X. What up? Hoho'sh Man?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
How y'all doing may really good? You?
Speaker 11 (22:01):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Man, you know Saturday won a state championship be high
school football? Man?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Congratulations Mardel Top, that's great, grats hey, Rob.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
We smacked them, Bro, what we was just score forty
nine to seventh? Oh no, no, no, they scored thirteen points.
They got thirteen. I'm sorry, I don't want to they
had yeah, forty nine, the thirteen, forty nine, fourteen something
like that. Yeah, it was a demolition.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
That was unbelievable. Was it supposed to be close? Or
y'all new year? It was gonna blow the mountain?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Uh for a state title?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
For him?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
The right sometimes you get from this.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
We played day Lostile obviously a story program, but man,
they running like a nineteen eighty offense.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Man, I watched that game. It was on Spectrum. I
watched that game. Yeah, they've run the ball so much
and they passed like once every fifteen to twenty plays.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Oh yeah, you can't. You can't play football today with
they they're not preparing them kids for college, but they
you know, they went undefeateing the regular season throughout the playoffs. Yeah,
that ain't how you should be playing football now if
you're trying to prepare kids to college.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeb I saw a ponytail on the sideline. I should
have known that was Who is that?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Right? That's right? He TJ.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You know some of your brother and you know, I
got an issue with guys who played football and their
analysts and shows whatever and refuse to really look at
players or whatever and just give them mad respect or
you know, rest on what they've done. I saw a
(23:34):
couple guys this past week talk about that the Chiefs
were going to run the table and make the playoff,
and I'm just like, what what Chiefs team were you watching?
Seriously because I just didn't see it. What table were
they running? And are you surprised as poorly as they've played?
Because if you look at take out that four touchdown
(23:55):
game against Dallas?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Right was that Dallas? Yeah? Take that out?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Mahomes had three touchdowns and seven picks in the other
four games. Like, what game were you winning? How surprised
are you that the Chiefs got knocked out?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And they need real ones like us on there going
that's going to tell the truth regardless of what's going on.
That's first and foremost. Right, if you look at the
Chiefs the way they played this year, it's like it's
just not their year. And you can see it. Offensively,
(24:33):
they just couldn't get anything going. Like you can say, oh,
the defense didn't play well. The defense is seventh in
the NFL, thank you, thank you, the seventh in the NFL.
And so the offense did not play. They did not
hold up their end of the bargain point white period.
The offense did not do their end of it. And
so when that happens, you got to be perfect. You
(24:56):
got to be perfect. Pat Mahomes was under five last week.
Pat Mahomes wasn't having a great game this past week.
It's just unfortunate that now you had this knee injury.
He may missed next year. Right, Yeah, And it's because
of Patrick Mahomes that many thought, Okay, they got Pat Mahomes,
(25:16):
they they can run the table. But if you've been
watching any games, offensively was a struggle for the Chiefs
all season.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Let me ask you this one sports spot on TJ
spot on how do you okay?
Speaker 5 (25:28):
So if you're if you're sitting there, what do you
do now?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You got you know, you got him out for potentially
the obviously the rest of the season, maybe even next season.
How do you retool? Obviously, money salary cap is type
for them. What is it they need to do. One
of the things I said, they got to start going
out and finding him a dog Deavonte Adams type, like
go find him.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Don't capol.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
They got to find a way, find a way.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Didn't they say when Rushie Rice came thank you Matt,
they would be fine. He came back and they weren't fine.
My opinion is it the Chiefs need a guy with
Pat Mahomes. They were spoiled with Tyreek Kill because not
only was Tyreek Kill fast, he was extremely quick, and
(26:10):
so they need a guy like that. Or they used
to say, you know what, we're gonna feature Ez if
you're worthy, and let's see if he can be that guy,
because he was that guy in the super Bowl. But
it was too late when they started the future him.
You draft him in the first round, Let's make him
the focal point at offense and see if he can
do it. And if he can't, then you got to
find a guy because they had Hollywood. Brown has been
(26:33):
successful in the league. Obviously Travis Kelsey. He's playing better
this year than he played last.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Year, dropping numbers way better last year.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Kevin, everybody drops, he dropped. Everybody drops the ball. But
when you're struggling, now those drops are over emphasized. Now
you're struggling. He playing better this year, not even just
a little bit a lot better this year than he
played last year. It's not Travis Kelsey. They're just not
good on offense this year.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Hey, let's go here. I mean disrespect to the game.
Philip Rivers forty four hasn't played in five years. I'm sorry,
And you know what, I want the coach to lose
every game and not make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm not even gonna hide it.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Okay, DJ.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
And they go to Seattle and hold Seattle to no
touchdowns at home and you don't win that game?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Like, like seriously, And I'm not gonna be the one
right here who's gonna be like, oh, Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Gave them a chance. They were No, they didn't win
the game.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
They didn't win the game, and had he won it,
they would have thrown the parade for him.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm just saying, what are they doing? What are they doing?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
For sayings Pyking is he sees the playoffs are right there.
We just gotta win the game or two. He sees
it right there, and it's like, Okay, who can I
sign that gives us the best chance of winning? And
I don't mind them signing Philip Rivers because he knows
the offense. It's a seamless transition.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Now have you seen what he looks like out there
in that uniform? Come on, tjmes.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
The problem is he hadn't played for five years. That
is the biggest problem. But think about what I'm about
to say. What quarterback could have gone in there and
done what Philip Rivers did being signed the week of
the game. Not many, it's anybody. I don't care who
they signed. If a god's on the streets, you're on
the street for a reason. If you're a backup, you're
(28:34):
a backup for a reason. But so for him to
come in and do what he did, I applaud him.
I really do depense played great.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But you got to win that game when you don't
give up a touchdown?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Seriously, how do you not win that game?
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Because they played a team defensively in the Seattle Seahawks,
that's very very good. I mean they have them with
six field goals. Six field goals, and so the coach
defense was saying, well, but I can't even think of
any quarterback that's not on the team right now that
would have come in there, understood the offense, understood protections
and done better than what Philip Rivers is. I'm happy that.
(29:11):
I'm happy that the fact the forty four year old
dude that hadn't played in five years coaching high school
football went in there and played as well as he did.
That's not easy to do, not easy at all.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
You know what we just got.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
This might be breaking new Steve de Seger TJ who's Mazada,
said he is coming out of retirement. That's what you're
saying right now. You got to inspired, TJ. Is that
what you're saying, you coming out now?
Speaker 11 (29:32):
No?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
No, no, no no. Like I will say this, there's
a lot of guys that played skilled positions that probably
could still play. That's at my age, Roader myself, Chad too.
The guys that really keep themselves in shape. But you
can find a receiver a lot of different places now
it's hard to find guys with that toughness, that determination,
that self belief that can really make plays when when
(29:55):
it gets sticky. But that had never happened at any
position but quarterback. No other position. When the guy not
have played for five years and they call you at
forty four or only the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, only only when you're the coach is friends with you.
That's the only time that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And yesterday is also very you know that, no other situation.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
It was that, And that's why I don't like the
NFL cronyism. Uh nepotism, you know, TJ. That's what that
league is all about. And Philip and.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Philip Rivers was the first person.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yesterday who received a game check, his pension check and
Social Security all at the same time.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I've seen that. I've seen that post restart, that insurance.
I mean, you talk, you look at this and we
ain't talking about this, but you look at the Raiders
one of the worst run games in the National Football League.
You know who the on line coach and the run
game coordinator is.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Who's that?
Speaker 6 (30:50):
All right? You talk what you just nepotism right right,
it's Pete Carroll soon.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh wow, yeah, yep, there's another one.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Fire him though, no everybody else gets fired, not Pete
carrol Son.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Hey, real quick, thirty forty seconds for me, real quick.
Two teams AFC.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Soud. We didn't see this coming.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
The Colts were having, you know, obviously a good season,
and we just talk about the injury. The Jags are
ten and four winners, a five straight Texans winners a
sixth straight at nine to five? Are those two real teams?
Are that good teams?
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Man? I'm not going to the Texans. Would I'm not
trying to play the Texans in the playoffs the way
that defense is playing. If you give CJ. Stroud some
time and you have to play the Texans in the playoffs,
good luck. And is Trevor Lawrence starting.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
To fulfill finally, finally the promise.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
That he had coming into the league The way he
played yesterday, great, great game, maybe at the best game
of his career. And so Liam Cohen, great coordinator, and
we do know that, and so maybe, just maybe this
is the coach that Trevor Lawrence has needed his entire career.
Time will tell, But I'm not trying to play the
(31:59):
Houston in the playoffs. Not with that defense, all right,
he is.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
T J Whosh was out of hush Man. Appreciate you
as always.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You're the best, my man, You're the best.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Y'all the best. I'm just trying to be like y'all.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Man, great work, thanks buddy.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
You like how he said that, he said he in
shape out here in the streets.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
He could go, you know, get three three receptions forty yards,
maybe a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I heard what he said right there.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
But getting the medical insurance we started, that's real.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
That's real. That's a real thing, man. Five year twenty
just saved for those fifteen kids. The craziest part is
Robb get to fifteen kids. Like, he's not stopping. He's
not like, all right, we're done that team. Who's the
other one who has all the kids? Alexander's right, se
Alexander on with us in the Super Bowl every year?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Every year?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Got another kid?
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah if his wife's I mean they got like fourteen kids, right,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Rob g.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
He needs to come back. Get a couple of snaps.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, oh yeah he could.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
No, he needs a couple of snips.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I don't know, Rober, you better recommend it. And I
got a guy who knows, the guy who can get
a snip on with you for real. Hey, rookie, got rookie,
we'll tell you about that. I ain't snipping yet.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I just can't snip away yet, Rogerie, I'm too nervous
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Uh? Is it ten days? Nine days away for Christmas? Whatever?
Ten days away from Christmas? Man, that is a I
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The Bears get another big win. They blow out the
Browns in the process. Should do or I think three
interceptions didn't look good went on them for the for
the Bears. Yeah, why you said that? For the divisionally?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, just like not not having a letdown or you
know what I mean, like they can't they couldn't afford it,
and they beat them and it was no contest what
I'm saying. You know what, and you know one of
those games coming off the loss with the Packers, you
know what I mean, you're at home and they went
at it.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
And what I like about.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
It is that they beat them down to you know
what I mean, you didn't just like we had we
had to kick a last second field go or some
crazy we had to catch an interception. They want it
and they dominate and they show I like to see
that from teams. Put your foot on somebody. He can't
do it all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But that was a game to me where where the
where Cleveland was and everybody was talking about how good
the Cleveland defense is and uh, not so much anymore.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
Mile's Garrett is the beast.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
He's going to break the record and shatter it and
probably put it up another two or three.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
If I was coaching against him, I'd have four guys
on him.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I'm just that's what he's insane for.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
God, you're not getting the record.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, I don't care. Everybody else is open if they get.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
If the Bears know, we know you.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
If the Bears you said you would block a girl
who tore every ligament and that's wanted the one more
bucket to be the all time scorer.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
You said, boxing one on her.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
She is not getting a basket.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Rob g.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
But somebody tried. The son should do a little bit.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
That's right, she do a Saturn's worst game is in
her career point plan period eighteen of thirty five.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I know you know why because I didn't get any
text messages from people during the game.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Sacked five times through three picks. They got blowed out
thirty one to three Chicago. After the game.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
CJ.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Gardner Johnson cornerback for the Bears, had this to say
the Chicago Sun Times about faces Door. This is a
great quote. It's about time he ran into some problems.
He's a great young player. They're a great young group,
playing hard, physical. He's just going against a lot of
events that have something to play for. Sometimes you got
to teach a rookie how to day in a rookies place.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Love it, absolutely love it. The Bears are feeling themselves
as they should. They've they've Depending on where you were,
they're either where you thought they'd be, or they're overachieved.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
No ball ten win. Who had them for ten wins?
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Somebody?
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, quite a few people had them win in the division.
Once they got Ben Johnson to go with Kayler Williams.
I was I actually was surprised quite a few people
had that. But not only that, just more so like, hey,
I don't mind we talk about this all the time
like it was Kaitlyn Clark. I don't mind people getting
a little rough on rookies, talking smack to rookies. I
feel like that's what it's supposed to be. We've been
(36:33):
in this league, I'm established. Like he mentioned, we're playing
for some we're trying to win the division, maybe win
the conference.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
But the way that they were talking about Kaitlin before
she even got in the league was a little rough
to me. We're talking about once you're in you know
what I mean, like like like they were acting like
she could she wasn't gonna be able to plug that day.
I took it too far. But the idea of like
I have to bow down and work with somebody. He's
an NFL player like us, so a lot of respect
from making it to the league, but you gonna.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Get this work.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
You're gonna you know, you're a rookie fifth rounder at
that and you know I would go on and on.
So I absolutely have no problem with that. I like,
I like people being reminded every now and again. And
if you're shuder, you take that on the chin, you
try to bounce back. But yeah, I don't have a
problem with that. I have a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
No, not at all. I don't think he said anything
that was crazy or whatever. Just that was football and
that was that was fair game. And he did have
a bad just a bad game.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
And by the way, I don't need I don't know
if he did this, Robb g correct me if this happened,
But I don't also need to turn around like the
whole thing from Shador, like you know it's gonna be
what it is, and it's tough, and you know, I
am a rookie and sometimes rookie is gonna have to Okay,
I got it. I don't sometimes I don't need all
that just yeah he right man, it was a rough one. Now.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
The one thing he said that was kind of out
of pocket talking about the Jerry Judy intercept the chest.
He's like, yeah, you know, Jerry know, he's like to
have that one back. That was a big playing in
the game. Was like, yeah, maybe you should have said that,
my guy.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
That's the weird Yeah. You you learned veteran ways because
if somebody ask you, you think you're just answered, but
all the picks, yeah, you gotta learn how to do that.
Be sure that.
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