December 23, 2025 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why Steve Kerr and Steph Curry are to blame for Draymond Green’s bad behavior, discuss how much credit Kyle Shanahan deserves for having the San Francisco 49ers on the precipice of earning the top seed in the NFL and debate whether the Colts should allow Philip Rivers to finish off the season even though Indy has been eliminated from playoff contention.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Big hullabaloo up there in the Bay last night in
a game that should have been a positive because for
the first time in a hot second, the Golden State
Warriors got a good win. Stephen Curry got went nuclear
in the third quarter. They end up don't be good team.
They beat a playoff Orlando Magic team by about twenty
points going away.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You took that right you take We'll talk about later.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But the big headline had come out of this game
early in the second half. During a timeout they were scuffling.
At that point, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green have a
little spat on the sideline. It culminates with Draymond Green
getting up and going to the locker room. He missed
about nine minutes of game action, so he was in
(01:05):
the back of about fifteen or fifteen twenty minutes or so.
Eventually comes back just before the start of the fourth quarter,
never takes off his warm ups, never gets back into
the game. Take a listen to both Steve Kerr.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And Draymond after the game trying to explain.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Away what happened.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
We got into it, obviously, and you know, I took
the time out just because I thought we lost our
focus there a little bit, and we had it out
a little bit, and you know, he made his decision
to go back to the locker room to cool off.
And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything.
Everything is private, and yeah, I got nothing further.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Down, he didn't play the last twenty minutes. Would you
have gone back to No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going
back yet. And was that a decision by him?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, he left, he went back to the locker room.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Trainmon, what happened? And why did you leave? The bench?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Timper spilled over, and I just thought it was best
out of there. I don't think there was a situation
where it was going to get better, so it was
just best to remove myself. You know. That's it what
caused the argument basketball, That's what we do. We played basketball.
(02:15):
It's emotional game. You know, people lose their emotions sometimes
it happens. It is what it is. You know, we've
been at this now for a long time. You know,
sometimes people for a long time. There's a level of
comfort and happens.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We move forward.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I mean, do you feel like this will linger at all?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We move forward?
Speaker 7 (02:40):
You know what what? I'm glad he walked out on
Steve Kerr. And Steve Kerr deserves all of it, all
the smoke. He has created this monster in Draymond Green
and to have him walked out on his teammates and
for it to be okay, and for I would have
told that dude, you better not come back out here,
(03:01):
even if he is in the game.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You better stay there.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
If you're gonna walk away from your teammates when you're
trying to win a damn game.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
How dare Steve Kerr?
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Why does he continue to cut to coddle this guy?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Steve curdle milk is.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
What you should be called because your methods of coaching
is ridiculous. He allowed him to suck a punch of guy,
never even gave him a suspension. Let Draymond talk about
he walked away from the team and there was no discipline,
and then they didn't want to suspend him because they
wanted to make sure he was there for the ring
ceremony so that he could get there. I would have said,
(03:37):
you got suspended for ten games, and we're giving out
the wings on opening night and you won't get George
that night. I don't understand it. How do the other
players allow that you're another player on the team. You're
gonna let this guy walk out? Everybody has disagreement. You
can't walk out on your teammates. What kind of coach
(03:59):
had Steve Kerr turned into to allow this guy to
do whatever he wants and then come back out Kelvin, Seriously,
you play basketball, come back out for what you walked
out on us.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We're a team, went together, lose together. We can argue
you can't walk out. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
I don't understand Steve Kerr, but I'm glad Dre Mom
he's given you a ton of rope.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Use it make him look like the fool, because that's
what it looks like.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Really, Steve Kerr has no control over the team.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You can walk out, don't come back here.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
You don't come back, and do you apologize to everybody
on this bench and this team and tell him it'll
never happen again. Come back out. Oh he wouldn't go
back in the game. And you know what tells you
how week, Steve Kerr, is you what the reporter said,
beat you? What the reporter has them? Was that for yours?
(05:03):
What I was when I heard that, I was like,
what hold on?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
What I would have asked him?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But that shows that shows the leeway and the articulous
the excuses that have been built.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
All right, a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So you you touched on a lot of that, and
we disagree and argued all day yesterday we starting off
the show here mostly agreeing on this. This has been
something that's been built up with this team for now
ten fifteen, ten, twelve years. They've allowed things with Draymond
that have not been allowed with any other teammate. And
you just mentioned something. You said, well, why would somebody
(05:39):
else on the team should have been like, hey man,
you can't be doing that. That's the issue is that
their best player, Steph is not that kind of guy.
So Draymond would have Draymond You gee, what I'm saying
if there was another Draymond, Draymond would have Draymond greened
it right then.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But there's nobody else who's built like that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And so Steve Kerr has built and created where Raymond
gets away with stuff that nobody d of else could
get within. Because if Draymond tried to get away with
the stuff Draymond does, he would have let him know,
he would have checked out.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I don dont for one second if Michael Jordan was
on that bench you to grab him and said.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Where are you going? Where are you going?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Opposite if you left, when you come back now, we're good,
were good on you today.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Get back. Oh, we don't need you.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You didn't want to be a part of this, comeback,
just win whatever. We don't need you right now. So
let me elaborate on a couple other things. I think
Steve Kerr is so much indoctrinated with Phil Jackson's ideology
and the way Phil Jackson coach.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Phil Jackson was so unique.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He was telling Dennis Rodman, hey, go blow steam off
in Vegas, and I think Steve Kerr adopted too much
of that. Where I know I got different personalities. I
gotta allow this guy to do that I gotta let this.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Guy do that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'm gonna give him leeway, I'm gonna be hard on him,
and I think he's trying to do that too much.
Draymond has been allowed to do too much. From a
league standpoint and from a warrior standpoint, you can't stop
people in the chest, punch your own teammates, punch other
people head like Rudy Gobert, cuss people out, cuss Kevin
Durant let out that so much so that he leads
a team.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Like how much more can a man get away with?
And that's the thing that blows me away?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And Steve Kerr has to have at a point where
he puts his foot down or that team who checks Draymond?
Nobody does anybody in the organization check Draymond? Does the
bully ever get bullied? And it reminds me of a
scene in one of my favorite movies, Rode to Perdition. No,
don't anybody ever seen Rode the Pradition. There's a scene
where basically the head boss man his son is just
(07:32):
a terrible and competent gangster. Tom Hanks is really the
one who should be his son, but he's not his
biological son. The bad dude, the bad son goes off
dustin wild stuff and even hurts Tom Hanks's kids, shoot
kills his family and everything. And then basically Tom finally
gets to him and he says, well, why you let
him do that? And he said, well, asked my son,
what do you want me to do? And that's what
Steve Currzy created where they look at Draymond and go, well,
(07:55):
I mean that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What do you want us to do?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, somebody check him, because then he gets off philosophical
at at the press conferences.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh man, well, just you know, have you're too old, Raymond.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You've been doing this for too long, and at some
point you expect somebody from top down to Warriors to
check him, and it never happened.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I just can't believe. I can't believe that somebody's supposed
to be punched the bully.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm talking in the NBA as a whole, we've said
that all somebody was supposed to have been chin checked him.
Somebody gets away with so much throughout this league, from
a league standpoint, to the team organizationally within his own
locker room, checking his coach. And again, guys get into
a coach and get into a place. If he's saying
that you can out it, just walk away because.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Remember what he said, Draymond said this. We didn't air
this part. He said.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I walked away so that it wouldn't get worse. What
you're gonna punch Steve right.
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talked about it. The San Francisco forty nine ers don't
look now. But despite being one of the most injured
teams all season, near the top of the league in
games missed through injury.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
It's funny because they're making the playoff, they are trying
to say about the Lions.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They will host the next two games, upcomings against the
Bears and the Seahawks to close the regular season. If
they win both of those games, they will be the
number one seed in the NFC, which means they could
theoretically not have to leave the Bay Area all the
way through and including the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
That's where there are right now.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
With just go They've won five straight, each won by
double digits, averaging a league guy thirty four points a
game during that span.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Their offense has been so good. This is a fund stat.
They have not punted the ball in the month of December.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Serious, Davinpuny.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That is incredible, Kyle Shanahan, duck tape and paper clipping
this roster together and they.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Are now on the precipice of the top seed in
the NFC.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, they about to go get it now.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's the same conversation we've had about Josh Allen, except
for they've been there before.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
They've been there a couple of times in this era.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
There's really I mean, I listen, you've been able to
a credit Kyle Shanahan for able. As you mentioned, they've
them and the Lions have been so beat up, Bruce battered.
Yet unlike the Lions, they've been able to find ways
to win. They got Mac Jones. Who Matt Jones. He
came out and perform well for a handful of games.
Now brought perties back. They've won five straight with him.
(10:55):
Offense looks good. You got the key Coggs in your offense.
Running to me, Rob, I look at this as if
you're Kyle Shanahan. Hey man, if not now, then win well,
If not now, then win. You've been there before. You've
gotten there a couple of times. You got the NFC
Championship games. Your quarterback that you invested a bunch of
money in, he's able to get healthy. You've able to
get your running backs been going good. McCaffrey Kidd's still there.
(11:17):
You can still back. You've still got some other weapons.
Defense has been kind of a bend, but don't break
well since they lost so many guys. And I look
at this team, this is one of those few seasons, Rob,
it's kind of open. You know, you don't have the
bohemits of the Chiefs when they were in their absolute peak.
There's no Tom Brady sitting around, you know, there's no
This isn't the nineties Cowboys or anything like that where
(11:38):
you we gotta go through them. This is to me
as open as it's really been in quite some time.
So if you're at Kyle Shanahan, this is the one
where you have to coach your way to finally not
get there, get it done and be like these two teams,
Rob g you talked about, got a chance to play
all the way up into the Super Bowl. The Rams
won it in La the Buccaneers won it down there
(11:59):
in Tempa. So it's happened twice in the last five
six years. Go ahead and make it happen again for yourself.
But he has to get it done. What's the point
that you know you've knocked on that door, you've been
there enough, kick them again.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Now. I have zero confidence in Kyle Shanahan, and I'm
not convinced he's a regular season uh one trick pony,
like he's.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The postseason two because he's gotten there, yeah, super Bowl,
but he's lost three Super Bowls with disastrous finishes and
all of them.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
So it's one thing to get there, like to continue
to do the same thing where you have a complete
meltdown when it matters most some people aren't made for
that stage to be able to finish the job.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You would disrespect Martin Levy like this.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I'm just saying, it's crazy new Marv Levy, Martin Leev'
sitting there mine in his own business.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He's still with us right now. I'm not so sure
Martin Levi is still with us. ROI, Well, I'm just
if he is.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
He's ninety five years old, okay, Marve lev I don't
think he's coached the Buffalo Bills in a long time.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
But my point is simple, I don't trust Kyle Shanahan.
I don't.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
I don't look at them despite all the winning that
they've done, where they are once again in the uh
you know, winning all the games, where they are in
the season and going into the postseason. We've seen this
with different quarterbacks, different situations, and the end result always
seems to be the same.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Don't forget it took a colossal collapse by the Lions
for him.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Don't forget go look me in my eyes, just saying,
why are you pushing it because you already know like
that should have been right there, and you know people
wouldn't be talking about Kyle Shanahan the same way that
they are.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
But if you look at that, uh, you know, collapse
to the Patriots, that was unbelievable. And I know he
wasn't the head coach, but he's the offensive. The offense.
That and not run the ball and pass it all
the time costontenant to twenty two. They were in phil
goal range already, pat two passes a hold a side.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They were out of the field goal range. Like, really,
just kick the field goal. You go up, you're up
too many? You win it up up. I love it.
That's what he would be up too many. Let me
let me throw this at you real quick.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Is there a part of you that feels like a
guy that has shown Jimmy g brocky p uh Mac Jones,
missing Fred Warner, missing Bosa, it doesn't matter Deebo's gone.
Do you feel like because I feel like just if
you would have just told me this blindly, not the person,
but just if I told you this person, I almost
(14:32):
feel like it's an inevitabit, like you have to win
if you coach this well, given all.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Certain different types of certain stances, you have to get
it done.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
No, Because because you just talked about Marv Levy, they
won the AFC four years in a row. So so
he did a great job, right, You got Hall of
Famer okay for four years in a row and they
lost every Super Bowl. So Bud Grant with the Minnesota
Vikings lost for Super Bowl. So he had great team
the people, a purple leader with the Vikings. I mean, like, seriously,
(15:03):
so you can you can coach like that doesn't mean
you're gonna get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think Kyle Shanahan bet do the humpty hump and
get over.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
He's the current Marve Levy and Bud Grant. That's that,
and he's been That's what he That's what he can
wind up being is that he won't win. I won't
believe that Kyle Shanahan wins the super Bowl unless he
actually wins one, like not. I don't care about the
coach in the offense, what he's able to do, how
(15:32):
many regular season wins. I won't believe in Kyle Shanahan
until he actually wins. I think he'll wind up like
Bud Grant like, uh, Marve.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Leader, if there's a season to do it as this one,
because I don't think there's a prohibited favorite. You know again,
you're not man Patrick Mahomes and and you already know
where we've done that dance for five six years where
even if he lost, but you were, you'd pick them.
There's no prohibited favorite. And the way they've been playing,
he has to look at it as why not this year?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The Rams? Who else?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
There's no complete team in the AFC. There's no team
you look at that's fully well rounded. You know, you
don't fully trust the Broncos, and you don't fully maybe
the Patriots.
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Speaker 1 (16:24):
Philip Rivers, Oh Man Rivers, Rob, I can't hate the
man looked pretty good last night in a losing effort,
and my gosh, the forty nine man. The forty nine
Ers put up Dagner forty nine points on the Colts,
but Philip Rivers look good. Rob g was the two
seventy seven I believe it was a couple of touchdowns interception.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Had that garbage time pick six because he was trying
to lead him back. Yeah, second week in a row
was kind of hurting the bet from me. But yeah,
he looked really good.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah I sounded person. That's how it is, you and
rob person. Yeah, he looked pretty good. But there's a
larger question that play.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, the big question is now that they've lost, they
are officially eliminated from postseason contention. And the reason why
that's important is the whole reason that they brought him
in to Indianapolis's off his couch five years from playing
in the NFL is Number one to get the healthcare
for his twenty eight kids. Number two was because they
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had a slim but outside shot of making the postseason
and they thought he gave them the best chance to win.
They said, to hell with developing Riley Leonard, we got
to win and get into the playoffs. Now that they're eliminated,
the question becomes, do you allow Philip Rivers, who's starting
to get his mojo back, to finish what he started,
(17:40):
or do you do the long term play and get
as many snaps right Leonard as.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Possible for me, I'm going this is crazy. I was
hating on it, but I think I'm a ride this.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Philip Rivers train on out a couple of reasons why
we had to eat from earlier. He touched on something
I wanted to get at, Daniel Jones, rob g how
long is he expected to be out? Because that's gonna
be one of the determining things for me potentially the
start of next season. Right, So where I'm going with
this is, I'm gonna have to have multiple quarterbacks on
(18:10):
my team regardless. Right because Daniel Jones, my starter projected
I'm assuming, is gonna be out. So therefore, if you
got Philip Rivers, who can actually spend this offseason getting
in shape, who can spend this season tutoring up my
Riley Leonard watching him being behind the vent learning the game,
and then I can say, Philip Rivers coming out here,
(18:31):
start two or three till Daniel Jones is back, and
then we can just call it a career and Riley
Leonard can be my guy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
To back up.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's not a bad idea because they're looking at this
to saying we actually have a team on paper in
their minds that can compete and be in a playoff hunt.
You know they're hoping for the next couple of years,
so you don't want to get too far behind right
now waiting on Daniel Jones. So I think the familiarity
and the fact that he's only getting better. I want
to see how fire how far can you go? Okay,
(18:59):
how far can this Phil Rivers thing?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You see?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
This just this makes no sense because you know, the
Steelers made a mistake by bringing in forty one year
old Aaron Rodgers. But now you're gonna sit here and
talk about a forty four year old Phillip Rivers who
you brought in to win a game, to try to
make the playoffs and he lost ball.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
To let me tell you what, Because Daniel Jones isn't
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No he's not.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They act like Daniel Jones their quarterback. He is not
their quarter Jones absolutely their quarter He was terrible at
the end of the year before he got heard.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I didn't say Daniel Jones. With Daniel Jones their quarterback,
will look at somebody else. They got other people to
look at. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
After watching Daniel Jones the centigrade, after that early start
against bad teams.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Daniel, nobody the guy. That's the reason. What doesn't make
any sense. Guy, you should go get a guy and
take a look.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
Jones.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You would make it. Literally that started around forty four
year roll.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
It makes no sense you if you wailed against the
steel at don't have to die this, don't make it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He said, don't have a guy. He hasn't played that well.
Did you watch him? I don't care what the knugg
was on. Did you watch him? He was got forty eight?
Was playing with that? Did he did?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
He did not?
Speaker 7 (20:19):
You can't forty eight twenty if principal, I watched the
game against Seattle. He played well in that game, even
caught from the game. Dude, he threw a pick at
the at the end. He was bad the principal. The
principal was not wanting him. I wouldn't be with you
on that.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But the idea that he played bad is two different things.
And he hasn't to bring him. You don't like him
signing up.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I get that. I can get your point of that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Sassy, and you're gonna bring that guy back and give
him suits? Just call him sad, He clearly ain't sassy.
Got fifteen kids, what are you talking about.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
To bring that to Waite snaps on a forty four
year row who couldn't even get the job done that
you need. You needed him to come in and win
you a game and hope you could do it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And what happened. It did not happen.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Man, move on and tell let guy it go on
his way. You got your five more years of all
health of health insurance.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's what you got. I hooked you up because you're
my buddy. Coronyism.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Come on, man, stop wasting snapt on a senior citizen
on a grandpa.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is where we differ because I know Daniel Jones
is coming back. Who is their guy? And if it's
gonna be missing two or three games, and I just
want to maybe go to and one something like that
in those two or three games and then hand the
ball back over to him. I can see them absolutely
doing that. What would you look like if you got
in shake? What would you look like with an off training.
We don't need you for a full season next year.
(21:43):
I don't think that's possible at this point. We just
need you for a couple of games. And if you're
Riley Leonard, you should be offended by this by the way,
and you should dust off whoever comes in this training
camp and whoever tries to get that that starting position
until Daniel Jones is back.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You should be offended. You should take pride in this.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You should take it as a as an insult and
absolutely go out there and smoke whomever comes into training
camp that think they're taking your position because you thought
it was yours all year.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You've been a backup all year.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm sure you felt like you earned it all year,
and they went outside the building and got somebody else.
So that should be an insult to injury. You should
take offense in a good way, and you should come
back and absolutely feel like you're about Tony like any
other competition.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
If you're Riley Leonard, you must be crazy.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
I can't even believe after you get eliminated, you're gonna
bring back a forty four year old to Waiste snaps
on that guy.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Because they're about to have a Netflix Disney movie. I'm
so crazy they about to have a whole Disney movie.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I notice Disney movie on one that he failed, Yeah,
that he didn't failed. That they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
They're gonna say he did it and he played well,
and who knows, maybe he'll win the last game of
the season.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Play it. He did not play. He lost both games.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
He didn't play well. I refused to buy into that
he played well, absolutely lost, he didn't play different things.
I'm totally with you.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It didn't. But they got no forty niners put up
a forty nine on him. I'm play well, not play well.
They got blowed out. I don't care.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Stop it, no, stop he didn't. He didn't play well.
He didn't play well. I'm sorry, I'm not buying it now.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Didn't he What do you mean? How didn't? What did
bring him here for? To put up numbers or to
win the game? To win the game? Okay, did they
win any games while I was there? He played?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
What?
Speaker 10 (23:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
He did not. I was with you. I thought it.
What did I say?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Rose an indictment on the league that you can't find
a quarterbacks, Not that they can't.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
It's this is cronyism. This is a coach hooking up
his home. This ain't say no indictment of the league.
This is an indictment of of the coach. Coach that
that's what this is. If I'm the owner there, even
though they've done nothing but but do these kind of
stunts anyway, and this is part for the course.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm happy it's a radio.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Turn the radio up in Indianapolis, if you if we're
on in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm happy that you guys.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Lost because you put a forty four year old guy
in that quarterback. I'm happy that you still on is
seven and one and it disintegrated because you brought into
Daniel Jones. I'm even happier that Philip Rivers was the
reason why you didn't make the playoffs. Keep doing it,
Keep doing the nonsense, keep doing the buffoonery and the trickery,
keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who will be worse if the Colts bounce back next year?
Or the Chiefs, which will be worse for you?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
No, neither one, Neither one is bouncing back.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Rob Ze we sitting there. Where will we be next?
He'll be here right in Super Bowl in LA. Who
will be worse? The Colts are the Chiefs. That's a
tough one. Still Chiefs, still ABC Chiefs. Rams would be
horrible for Rob oh Man because he gonna lose either way.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Yep, chief about that last year. I'm just waiting for
the Rams to get knocked out. And then I'll be
good up this shit.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
If it's an MVP season for Stafford and he wins
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
If it's Rams Patriots, I've.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Been on the Drake May train all year. I told
you if amazing stand up for Drake May. He's the
US Avance Patriot quarterback. Ever, yes, including the Loats, it's
all right.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
All I'm telling you is I've been right all year,
not all year.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Most things, not all what happened at the Ravens rob
all year? What was going on with Giannis and the Bucks?
All you us, your NBA champions, I told you that start.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, I'm the only guy who got like seven interceptions
in four games.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I didn't tell you the man about that time that way.
I told him it gonna start anybody else.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Seven interceptions and Dylan Gabriel had to Uh, he's got
game up and two interceptions.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
But Sadul has seven interceptions in four.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Because Dylan Gabriel ain't throwing no passes like him beautiful
Bond two. He let it there looking like the young
Russell Wilson when he was throwing them air strikes down
the field. All right, let's call seven ninety nine on
Fox A celebrating the guy perception. I told you he
was gonna start. That's all I'm saying, Rob, Get you
were right. No, you were wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Difference. I tell you, hey, man, you called it, you
were right. I can't get it right. No, I told
you he was gonna start. I can't get one can
do it? He didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
He only reason you gotta start, he says, Andrew is
perfectly healthy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Now, Rob, you know what else you's wrong? Deshaun Watson,
they just deactivate. Wouldn't even get him out of here?
Speaker 7 (26:20):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He gonna be the starter next year we'll talk about this. God,
just get one.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
You're right, That's all I asked, Alice. No got rob
and a Christmas spirit. Let's go, Hey, let's go. We
got a We're up against it. Come on, k Don,
we're up against him.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I want my You're right. I told you, Kelvin, the
best month. This is January. It's not February. Stump, aren't
It's May? Why is it May?
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Though?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Drake May? Let's hear you close it up. I ain't
closing it out. We're gonna see here.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
It is the odd couple call in last call and
rip Kelvin grip him for not saying you're right.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Ripple my man told you that I gave it. I
dat you up eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
You had to I was right ten times out of ten.
Give me my real right, Give me your right. Don't
mean I've known this music. Alib No Go Go to
break so I could get my gifts back from Alex
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Big hullabaloo up there in the Bay last night in
a game that should have been a positive because for
the first time in a hot second, the Golden State
Warriors got a good win. Stephen Curry got went nuclear
in the third quarter. They end up don't be good team.
They beat a playoff Orlando Magic team by about twenty
points going away.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You took that right you take We'll talk about later.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
But the big headline had come out of this game
early in the second half. During a timeout they were scuffling.
At that point, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green have a
little spat on the sideline. It culminates with Draymond Green
getting up and going to the locker room. He missed
about nine minutes of game action, so he was in
(01:05):
the back of about fifteen or fifteen twenty minutes or so.
Eventually comes back just before the start of the fourth quarter,
never takes off his warm ups, never gets back into
the game. Take a listen to both Steve Kerr.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
And Draymond after the game trying to explain.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Away what happened.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
We got into it, obviously, and you know, I took
the time out just because I thought we lost our
focus there a little bit, and we had it out
a little bit, and you know, he made his decision
to go back to the locker room to cool off.
And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything.
Everything is private, and yeah, I got nothing further.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Down, he didn't play the last twenty minutes. Would you
have gone back to No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going
back yet. And was that a decision by him?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, he left, he went back to the locker room.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Trainmon, what happened? And why did you leave? The bench?
Speaker 6 (01:55):
Timper spilled over, and I just thought it was best
out of there. I don't think there was a situation
where it was going to get better, so it was
just best to remove myself. You know. That's it what
caused the argument basketball, That's what we do. We played basketball.
(02:15):
It's emotional game. You know, people lose their emotions sometimes
it happens. It is what it is. You know, we've
been at this now for a long time. You know,
sometimes people for a long time. There's a level of
comfort and happens.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We move forward.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I mean, do you feel like this will linger at all?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
We move forward?
Speaker 7 (02:40):
You know what what? I'm glad he walked out on
Steve Kerr. And Steve Kerr deserves all of it, all
the smoke. He has created this monster in Draymond Green
and to have him walked out on his teammates and
for it to be okay, and for I would have
told that dude, you better not come back out here,
(03:01):
even if he is in the game.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You better stay there.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
If you're gonna walk away from your teammates when you're
trying to win a damn game.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
How dare Steve Kerr?
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Why does he continue to cut to coddle this guy?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Steve curdle milk is.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
What you should be called because your methods of coaching
is ridiculous. He allowed him to suck a punch of guy,
never even gave him a suspension. Let Draymond talk about
he walked away from the team and there was no discipline,
and then they didn't want to suspend him because they
wanted to make sure he was there for the ring
ceremony so that he could get there. I would have said,
(03:37):
you got suspended for ten games, and we're giving out
the wings on opening night and you won't get George
that night. I don't understand it. How do the other
players allow that you're another player on the team. You're
gonna let this guy walk out? Everybody has disagreement. You
can't walk out on your teammates. What kind of coach
(03:59):
had Steve Kerr turned into to allow this guy to
do whatever he wants and then come back out Kelvin, Seriously,
you play basketball, come back out for what you walked
out on us.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
We're a team, went together, lose together. We can argue
you can't walk out. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
I don't understand Steve Kerr, but I'm glad Dre Mom
he's given you a ton of rope.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Use it make him look like the fool, because that's
what it looks like.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Really, Steve Kerr has no control over the team.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
You can walk out, don't come back here.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
You don't come back, and do you apologize to everybody
on this bench and this team and tell him it'll
never happen again. Come back out. Oh he wouldn't go
back in the game. And you know what tells you
how week, Steve Kerr, is you what the reporter said,
beat you? What the reporter has them? Was that for yours?
(05:03):
What I was when I heard that, I was like,
what hold on?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
What I would have asked him?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But that shows that shows the leeway and the articulous
the excuses that have been built.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
All right, a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So you you touched on a lot of that, and
we disagree and argued all day yesterday we starting off
the show here mostly agreeing on this. This has been
something that's been built up with this team for now
ten fifteen, ten, twelve years. They've allowed things with Draymond
that have not been allowed with any other teammate. And
you just mentioned something. You said, well, why would somebody
(05:39):
else on the team should have been like, hey man,
you can't be doing that. That's the issue is that
their best player, Steph is not that kind of guy.
So Draymond would have Draymond You gee, what I'm saying
if there was another Draymond, Draymond would have Draymond greened
it right then.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But there's nobody else who's built like that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And so Steve Kerr has built and created where Raymond
gets away with stuff that nobody d of else could
get within. Because if Draymond tried to get away with
the stuff Draymond does, he would have let him know,
he would have checked out.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I don dont for one second if Michael Jordan was
on that bench you to grab him and said.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Where are you going? Where are you going?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Opposite if you left, when you come back now, we're good,
were good on you today.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Get back. Oh, we don't need you.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You didn't want to be a part of this, comeback,
just win whatever. We don't need you right now. So
let me elaborate on a couple other things. I think
Steve Kerr is so much indoctrinated with Phil Jackson's ideology
and the way Phil Jackson coach.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Phil Jackson was so unique.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He was telling Dennis Rodman, hey, go blow steam off
in Vegas, and I think Steve Kerr adopted too much
of that. Where I know I got different personalities. I
gotta allow this guy to do that I gotta let this.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Guy do that.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I'm gonna give him leeway, I'm gonna be hard on him,
and I think he's trying to do that too much.
Draymond has been allowed to do too much. From a
league standpoint and from a warrior standpoint, you can't stop
people in the chest, punch your own teammates, punch other
people head like Rudy Gobert, cuss people out, cuss Kevin
Durant let out that so much so that he leads
a team.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Like how much more can a man get away with?
And that's the thing that blows me away?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And Steve Kerr has to have at a point where
he puts his foot down or that team who checks Draymond?
Nobody does anybody in the organization check Draymond? Does the
bully ever get bullied? And it reminds me of a
scene in one of my favorite movies, Rode to Perdition. No,
don't anybody ever seen Rode the Pradition. There's a scene
where basically the head boss man his son is just
(07:32):
a terrible and competent gangster. Tom Hanks is really the
one who should be his son, but he's not his
biological son. The bad dude, the bad son goes off
dustin wild stuff and even hurts Tom Hanks's kids, shoot
kills his family and everything. And then basically Tom finally
gets to him and he says, well, why you let
him do that? And he said, well, asked my son,
what do you want me to do? And that's what
Steve Currzy created where they look at Draymond and go, well,
(07:55):
I mean that's our guy.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What do you want us to do?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, somebody check him, because then he gets off philosophical
at at the press conferences.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh man, well, just you know, have you're too old, Raymond.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You've been doing this for too long, and at some
point you expect somebody from top down to Warriors to
check him, and it never happened.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I just can't believe. I can't believe that somebody's supposed
to be punched the bully.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm talking in the NBA as a whole, we've said
that all somebody was supposed to have been chin checked him.
Somebody gets away with so much throughout this league, from
a league standpoint, to the team organizationally within his own
locker room, checking his coach. And again, guys get into
a coach and get into a place. If he's saying
that you can out it, just walk away because.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Remember what he said, Draymond said this. We didn't air
this part. He said.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I walked away so that it wouldn't get worse. What
you're gonna punch Steve right.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
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talked about it. The San Francisco forty nine ers don't
look now. But despite being one of the most injured
teams all season, near the top of the league in
games missed through injury.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
It's funny because they're making the playoff, they are trying
to say about the Lions.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They will host the next two games, upcomings against the
Bears and the Seahawks to close the regular season. If
they win both of those games, they will be the
number one seed in the NFC, which means they could
theoretically not have to leave the Bay Area all the
way through and including the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
That's where there are right now.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
With just go They've won five straight, each won by
double digits, averaging a league guy thirty four points a
game during that span.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Their offense has been so good. This is a fund stat.
They have not punted the ball in the month of December.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Serious, Davinpuny.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That is incredible, Kyle Shanahan, duck tape and paper clipping
this roster together and they.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Are now on the precipice of the top seed in
the NFC.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, they about to go get it now.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's the same conversation we've had about Josh Allen, except
for they've been there before.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
They've been there a couple of times in this era.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
There's really I mean, I listen, you've been able to
a credit Kyle Shanahan for able. As you mentioned, they've
them and the Lions have been so beat up, Bruce battered.
Yet unlike the Lions, they've been able to find ways
to win. They got Mac Jones. Who Matt Jones. He
came out and perform well for a handful of games.
Now brought perties back. They've won five straight with him.
(10:55):
Offense looks good. You got the key Coggs in your offense.
Running to me, Rob, I look at this as if
you're Kyle Shanahan. Hey man, if not now, then win well,
If not now, then win. You've been there before. You've
gotten there a couple of times. You got the NFC
Championship games. Your quarterback that you invested a bunch of
money in, he's able to get healthy. You've able to
get your running backs been going good. McCaffrey Kidd's still there.
(11:17):
You can still back. You've still got some other weapons.
Defense has been kind of a bend, but don't break
well since they lost so many guys. And I look
at this team, this is one of those few seasons, Rob,
it's kind of open. You know, you don't have the
bohemits of the Chiefs when they were in their absolute peak.
There's no Tom Brady sitting around, you know, there's no
This isn't the nineties Cowboys or anything like that where
(11:38):
you we gotta go through them. This is to me
as open as it's really been in quite some time.
So if you're at Kyle Shanahan, this is the one
where you have to coach your way to finally not
get there, get it done and be like these two teams,
Rob g you talked about, got a chance to play
all the way up into the Super Bowl. The Rams
won it in La the Buccaneers won it down there
(11:59):
in Tempa. So it's happened twice in the last five
six years. Go ahead and make it happen again for yourself.
But he has to get it done. What's the point
that you know you've knocked on that door, you've been
there enough, kick them again.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Now. I have zero confidence in Kyle Shanahan, and I'm
not convinced he's a regular season uh one trick pony,
like he's.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The postseason two because he's gotten there, yeah, super Bowl,
but he's lost three Super Bowls with disastrous finishes and
all of them.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
So it's one thing to get there, like to continue
to do the same thing where you have a complete
meltdown when it matters most some people aren't made for
that stage to be able to finish the job.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You would disrespect Martin Levy like this.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I'm just saying, it's crazy new Marv Levy, Martin Leev'
sitting there mine in his own business.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
He's still with us right now. I'm not so sure
Martin Levi is still with us. ROI, Well, I'm just
if he is.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
He's ninety five years old, okay, Marve lev I don't
think he's coached the Buffalo Bills in a long time.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
But my point is simple, I don't trust Kyle Shanahan.
I don't.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
I don't look at them despite all the winning that
they've done, where they are once again in the uh
you know, winning all the games, where they are in
the season and going into the postseason. We've seen this
with different quarterbacks, different situations, and the end result always
seems to be the same.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Don't forget it took a colossal collapse by the Lions
for him.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Don't forget go look me in my eyes, just saying,
why are you pushing it because you already know like
that should have been right there, and you know people
wouldn't be talking about Kyle Shanahan the same way that
they are.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
But if you look at that, uh, you know, collapse
to the Patriots, that was unbelievable. And I know he
wasn't the head coach, but he's the offensive. The offense.
That and not run the ball and pass it all
the time costontenant to twenty two. They were in phil
goal range already, pat two passes a hold a side.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They were out of the field goal range. Like, really,
just kick the field goal. You go up, you're up
too many? You win it up up. I love it.
That's what he would be up too many. Let me
let me throw this at you real quick.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Is there a part of you that feels like a
guy that has shown Jimmy g brocky p uh Mac Jones,
missing Fred Warner, missing Bosa, it doesn't matter Deebo's gone.
Do you feel like because I feel like just if
you would have just told me this blindly, not the person,
but just if I told you this person, I almost
(14:32):
feel like it's an inevitabit, like you have to win
if you coach this well, given all.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Certain different types of certain stances, you have to get
it done.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
No, Because because you just talked about Marv Levy, they
won the AFC four years in a row. So so
he did a great job, right, You got Hall of
Famer okay for four years in a row and they
lost every Super Bowl. So Bud Grant with the Minnesota
Vikings lost for Super Bowl. So he had great team
the people, a purple leader with the Vikings. I mean, like, seriously,
(15:03):
so you can you can coach like that doesn't mean
you're gonna get over the hump.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I think Kyle Shanahan bet do the humpty hump and
get over.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
He's the current Marve Levy and Bud Grant. That's that,
and he's been That's what he That's what he can
wind up being is that he won't win. I won't
believe that Kyle Shanahan wins the super Bowl unless he
actually wins one, like not. I don't care about the
coach in the offense, what he's able to do, how
(15:32):
many regular season wins. I won't believe in Kyle Shanahan
until he actually wins. I think he'll wind up like
Bud Grant like, uh, Marve.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Leader, if there's a season to do it as this one,
because I don't think there's a prohibited favorite. You know again,
you're not man Patrick Mahomes and and you already know
where we've done that dance for five six years where
even if he lost, but you were, you'd pick them.
There's no prohibited favorite. And the way they've been playing,
he has to look at it as why not this year?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The Rams? Who else?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
There's no complete team in the AFC. There's no team
you look at that's fully well rounded. You know, you
don't fully trust the Broncos, and you don't fully maybe
the Patriots.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
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Speaker 1 (16:24):
Philip Rivers, Oh Man Rivers, Rob, I can't hate the
man looked pretty good last night in a losing effort,
and my gosh, the forty nine man. The forty nine
Ers put up Dagner forty nine points on the Colts,
but Philip Rivers look good. Rob g was the two
seventy seven I believe it was a couple of touchdowns interception.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Had that garbage time pick six because he was trying
to lead him back. Yeah, second week in a row
was kind of hurting the bet from me. But yeah,
he looked really good.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah I sounded person. That's how it is, you and
rob person. Yeah, he looked pretty good. But there's a
larger question that play.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, the big question is now that they've lost, they
are officially eliminated from postseason contention. And the reason why
that's important is the whole reason that they brought him
in to Indianapolis's off his couch five years from playing
in the NFL is Number one to get the healthcare
for his twenty eight kids. Number two was because they
(17:19):
had a slim but outside shot of making the postseason
and they thought he gave them the best chance to win.
They said, to hell with developing Riley Leonard, we got
to win and get into the playoffs. Now that they're eliminated,
the question becomes, do you allow Philip Rivers, who's starting
to get his mojo back, to finish what he started,
(17:40):
or do you do the long term play and get
as many snaps right Leonard as.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Possible for me, I'm going this is crazy. I was
hating on it, but I think I'm a ride this.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Philip Rivers train on out a couple of reasons why
we had to eat from earlier. He touched on something
I wanted to get at, Daniel Jones, rob g how
long is he expected to be out? Because that's gonna
be one of the determining things for me potentially the
start of next season. Right, So where I'm going with
this is, I'm gonna have to have multiple quarterbacks on
(18:10):
my team regardless. Right because Daniel Jones, my starter projected
I'm assuming, is gonna be out. So therefore, if you
got Philip Rivers, who can actually spend this offseason getting
in shape, who can spend this season tutoring up my
Riley Leonard watching him being behind the vent learning the game,
and then I can say, Philip Rivers coming out here,
(18:31):
start two or three till Daniel Jones is back, and
then we can just call it a career and Riley
Leonard can be my guy.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
To back up.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's not a bad idea because they're looking at this
to saying we actually have a team on paper in
their minds that can compete and be in a playoff hunt.
You know they're hoping for the next couple of years,
so you don't want to get too far behind right
now waiting on Daniel Jones. So I think the familiarity
and the fact that he's only getting better. I want
to see how fire how far can you go? Okay,
(18:59):
how far can this Phil Rivers thing?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You see?
Speaker 7 (19:01):
This just this makes no sense because you know, the
Steelers made a mistake by bringing in forty one year
old Aaron Rodgers. But now you're gonna sit here and
talk about a forty four year old Phillip Rivers who
you brought in to win a game, to try to
make the playoffs and he lost ball.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
To let me tell you what, Because Daniel Jones isn't
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No he's not.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
They act like Daniel Jones their quarterback. He is not
their quarter Jones absolutely their quarter He was terrible at
the end of the year before he got heard.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I didn't say Daniel Jones. With Daniel Jones their quarterback,
will look at somebody else. They got other people to
look at. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
After watching Daniel Jones the centigrade, after that early start
against bad teams.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Daniel, nobody the guy. That's the reason. What doesn't make
any sense. Guy, you should go get a guy and
take a look.
Speaker 10 (19:56):
Jones.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
You would make it. Literally that started around forty four
year roll.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
It makes no sense you if you wailed against the
steel at don't have to die this, don't make it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
He said, don't have a guy. He hasn't played that well.
Did you watch him? I don't care what the knugg
was on. Did you watch him? He was got forty eight?
Was playing with that? Did he did?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
He did not?
Speaker 7 (20:19):
You can't forty eight twenty if principal, I watched the
game against Seattle. He played well in that game, even
caught from the game. Dude, he threw a pick at
the at the end. He was bad the principal. The
principal was not wanting him. I wouldn't be with you
on that.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But the idea that he played bad is two different things.
And he hasn't to bring him. You don't like him
signing up.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I get that. I can get your point of that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Sassy, and you're gonna bring that guy back and give
him suits? Just call him sad, He clearly ain't sassy.
Got fifteen kids, what are you talking about.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
To bring that to Waite snaps on a forty four
year row who couldn't even get the job done that
you need. You needed him to come in and win
you a game and hope you could do it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And what happened. It did not happen.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Man, move on and tell let guy it go on
his way. You got your five more years of all
health of health insurance.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's what you got. I hooked you up because you're
my buddy. Coronyism.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Come on, man, stop wasting snapt on a senior citizen
on a grandpa.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
This is where we differ because I know Daniel Jones
is coming back. Who is their guy? And if it's
gonna be missing two or three games, and I just
want to maybe go to and one something like that
in those two or three games and then hand the
ball back over to him. I can see them absolutely
doing that. What would you look like if you got
in shake? What would you look like with an off training.
We don't need you for a full season next year.
(21:43):
I don't think that's possible at this point. We just
need you for a couple of games. And if you're
Riley Leonard, you should be offended by this by the way,
and you should dust off whoever comes in this training
camp and whoever tries to get that that starting position
until Daniel Jones is back.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You should be offended. You should take pride in this.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You should take it as a as an insult and
absolutely go out there and smoke whomever comes into training
camp that think they're taking your position because you thought
it was yours all year.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
You've been a backup all year.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm sure you felt like you earned it all year,
and they went outside the building and got somebody else.
So that should be an insult to injury. You should
take offense in a good way, and you should come
back and absolutely feel like you're about Tony like any
other competition.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
If you're Riley Leonard, you must be crazy.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
I can't even believe after you get eliminated, you're gonna
bring back a forty four year old to Waiste snaps
on that guy.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Because they're about to have a Netflix Disney movie. I'm
so crazy they about to have a whole Disney movie.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I notice Disney movie on one that he failed, Yeah,
that he didn't failed. That they're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
They're gonna say he did it and he played well,
and who knows, maybe he'll win the last game of
the season.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Play it. He did not play. He lost both games.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
He didn't play well. I refused to buy into that
he played well, absolutely lost, he didn't play different things.
I'm totally with you.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It didn't. But they got no forty niners put up
a forty nine on him. I'm play well, not play well.
They got blowed out. I don't care.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Stop it, no, stop he didn't. He didn't play well.
He didn't play well. I'm sorry, I'm not buying it now.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Didn't he What do you mean? How didn't? What did
bring him here for? To put up numbers or to
win the game? To win the game? Okay, did they
win any games while I was there? He played?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
What?
Speaker 10 (23:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
He did not. I was with you. I thought it.
What did I say?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Rose an indictment on the league that you can't find
a quarterbacks, Not that they can't.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
It's this is cronyism. This is a coach hooking up
his home. This ain't say no indictment of the league.
This is an indictment of of the coach. Coach that
that's what this is. If I'm the owner there, even
though they've done nothing but but do these kind of
stunts anyway, and this is part for the course.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I'm happy it's a radio.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Turn the radio up in Indianapolis, if you if we're
on in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm happy that you guys.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Lost because you put a forty four year old guy
in that quarterback. I'm happy that you still on is
seven and one and it disintegrated because you brought into
Daniel Jones. I'm even happier that Philip Rivers was the
reason why you didn't make the playoffs. Keep doing it,
Keep doing the nonsense, keep doing the buffoonery and the trickery,
keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who will be worse if the Colts bounce back next year?
Or the Chiefs, which will be worse for you?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
No, neither one, Neither one is bouncing back.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Rob Ze we sitting there. Where will we be next?
He'll be here right in Super Bowl in LA. Who
will be worse? The Colts are the Chiefs. That's a
tough one. Still Chiefs, still ABC Chiefs. Rams would be
horrible for Rob oh Man because he gonna lose either way.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
Yep, chief about that last year. I'm just waiting for
the Rams to get knocked out. And then I'll be
good up this shit.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
If it's an MVP season for Stafford and he wins
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
If it's Rams Patriots, I've.
Speaker 10 (24:55):
Been on the Drake May train all year. I told
you if amazing stand up for Drake May. He's the
US Avance Patriot quarterback. Ever, yes, including the Loats, it's
all right.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
All I'm telling you is I've been right all year,
not all year.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Most things, not all what happened at the Ravens rob
all year? What was going on with Giannis and the Bucks?
All you us, your NBA champions, I told you that start.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, I'm the only guy who got like seven interceptions
in four games.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I didn't tell you the man about that time that way.
I told him it gonna start anybody else.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Seven interceptions and Dylan Gabriel had to Uh, he's got
game up and two interceptions.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
But Sadul has seven interceptions in four.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Because Dylan Gabriel ain't throwing no passes like him beautiful
Bond two. He let it there looking like the young
Russell Wilson when he was throwing them air strikes down
the field. All right, let's call seven ninety nine on
Fox A celebrating the guy perception. I told you he
was gonna start. That's all I'm saying, Rob, Get you
were right. No, you were wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Difference. I tell you, hey, man, you called it, you
were right. I can't get it right. No, I told
you he was gonna start. I can't get one can
do it? He didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
He only reason you gotta start, he says, Andrew is
perfectly healthy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Now, Rob, you know what else you's wrong? Deshaun Watson,
they just deactivate. Wouldn't even get him out of here?
Speaker 7 (26:20):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He gonna be the starter next year we'll talk about this. God,
just get one.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
You're right, That's all I asked, Alice. No got rob
and a Christmas spirit. Let's go, Hey, let's go. We
got a We're up against it. Come on, k Don,
we're up against him.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I want my You're right. I told you, Kelvin, the
best month. This is January. It's not February. Stump, aren't
It's May? Why is it May?
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Though?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Drake May? Let's hear you close it up. I ain't
closing it out. We're gonna see here.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
It is the odd couple call in last call and
rip Kelvin grip him for not saying you're right.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Ripple my man told you that I gave it. I
dat you up eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
You had to I was right ten times out of ten.
Give me my real right, Give me your right. Don't
mean I've known this music. Alib No Go Go to
break so I could get my gifts back from Alex
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