December 27, 2025 • 24 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us how much blame Dan Campbell deserves for the Detroit Lions seemingly lost season, explain why Steve Kerr and Steph Curry are to blame for Draymond Green’s bad behavior, and debate whether Kyle Whittingham will wind up being a success as the next head coach at the University of Michigan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Let's get there. Let's get to your Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And I'm not gonna sit here and make a big
stink about it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I told you, did you tell me? I told you?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And we have a Jordan's bet, And I know that
they're not officially eliminated.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I know that. Are they gonna make the black what say? Yeah,
I got no chice?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah no, they're not going to affect the player. Yeah,
you can on it and I gotta ride it out.
And we've seen crazy things happen. No, we have how
I really my brains?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You Oh but okay, I mean anyway, they're not in
it because if you look at that deep did.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You sort of run defense? Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They gave up two hundred and thirty yards on the
ground to the Steelers who can't run the ball, No TJ.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Watt. I mean just you could go look up and
down and needed calls at the end.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, I can't believe passing, the offensive passing appearance or
whatever it was it was.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know you're saying the last one was the last
one for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Also and also the Steelers had an offensive passing appearance
as well, they had one earlier in the game, so
they had a touchdown taking off the board.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm talking about the last one.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
There's no doubt in my mind. But I'm not surprised
here that the Lions took a step back this season.
And the reason that I said that they would not
make the playoffs has nothing to do with my hate
for Detroit. Hey for the Lions, Hey for Dan Gambles
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called NFL analysis. Why I bring up that I've covered
the league since nineteen eighty seven. I really take a
look at this stuff, and you can't lose two coordinators
and have it not affect anything. And that's the part
that was the reason why I said it. And I
even told you that they can win nine or ten
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games and not make the playoffs, which they might if
they split the last two, they'll have ten wins and
not make the playoffs. And that is exactly what I
was talking about about that division, about that team, about
Dank Campbell, Dan Gamble again, early in the game, there
was a field goal to be had.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You take that field goal early on.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Guess what you're setting up for a game winning field goal,
keep your season alive and well where you still would
even have a chance at the division. So this comes
as no surprise to me at all. It ain't based
on hate. It's it's facts, not feelings. And I've seen
other teams lose both of their coordinators and take a
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step back.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I told you the division was better, right, Packers, Bears
way better. And even the.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Vikings, who gave you the death blow, the Minnesota Vikings
right on.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Your home field, lose that one.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's the game that killed them.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I told you the Lions window was closed, and I'm
more confident today that they let the Steelers come into
their building with the season on the line, and they
got roughed over. They got worked over like a burger
and fries on both lines, offensive and defensive line.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, I think you've give a little too much to
the Steelers, But I have a whole lot of issues. Specifically,
I'm gonna start with Dan Campbell and his gambles, and
I've been sitting here on the air, off the air
telling you the same thing. I don't like those and
in the same phrase I keep using, it's as if
he didn't know this, and he should because he played football,
he was an assistant coach of years and he's obviously
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been a head coach for years. It's called situational awareness
and the idea that you would just walk into something
going well, this is just what we do, this is
just who we are.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And that's also called the definition and sanity doing the
same thing over expecting different results. And to me, Dan
Campbell put his team in multiple situations, multiple games this
year where they were in these games and had a
chance to win it to lose. If you go back
to what he was doing against the Packers, going forward
on his own side of the ball for no reason,
not putting, not taking field goals.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Same thing with the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You remember how close both of those games were right there,
You're right there in the game, you got a chance
to win it. And it's specifically this past one you
just mentioned it steals go down and get a three.
All right, they get a field go, no big deal,
you go march down, you kick a field goal, fourth
and four whatever it was fourth and for the goal
of the fourth, what are you doing? You tie it up?
This is called December football, Rob. You have to make
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wise decisions to get into the postseason.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The whole goal is to get in there. And then
you say, well, you know what, we're here.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You never know and he he's putting himself in his
positions where you know your team is training, you have
a million guys hurt, you know, you're fighting for your life.
They need to lean on you sometimes and you say, guys,
we're taking the three. I know, coach with m we're
taking the points because you're disrespecting the game, dispecting the
Steelers in this case, the Eagles another time, and the
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Packers another time, and you're disrespecting your team. You work
hard for every yard, especially in December. This is when
teams are locking in, they're getting focused for the postseason
or trying to make a postseason run. So that was
the first thing that I had issues with. Secondly, what
the heck we talked about this before. I don't know
what's going on with their personal training staff. But them
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in the forty nine ers, they got some they got
some real issues with guys. Regularly, it's football, everybody's gonna
get hurt. They are regularly having big time guys when
small guys, middling guys get hurt. To the tune of
what what's going on is that how they're practicing. Are
they practicing too hard? You know, pads all the time,
not taking some days off. There's something going on where
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they always are out, They're always entered.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The middle was seven and a half point favorites at
home game even with the injuries.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But the Steelers were missing some some players. But you
can't keep leaning on that. And they should have beaten this.
They should have beaten the Steelers. That you should have went,
whether it be the field, go out there to win
one or should be touched out. Where we will disagree
is I do think that was a touchdown because we
see that play all the time in the NFL. I
mean teams, some teams make literal habits of that play.
Both of them play the first one, the first one.
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I have to me, that's the one I have a
big issue with. It happens all the time, like and
not to mention if you watch it and if they
show it again, he literally pushed the defender, pushed the
receiver Tesla into the defender.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You're the only one on this bad wagon. You'll get you.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I be guarantee if Rob g he would say the
same thing. I just I just think I'm not even
that wasn't even where I led the show, So I'm
not acting like I didn't say that was the sole reason.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Anybody to watch that you give up to you give
up three explosive plays five yards of more.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He expects to win that game. In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It happens all the time the game, you know, it
happens all the time. You go get yours, but they
got they. You can't let the Steelers who don't.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yards on you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You cannot get the ball right on you like that.
And so that's it. That's a big game that you
cannot afford those and order.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The Lions had three plays for negative two yards and
of course the safety there.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, that was they played. They played poorly and still
had a chance to win it. And I go back
to you kick the field goal, you were winning by one.
You wipe the sweat off your forehead and you go
we walked away.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The Super Bowl era, only seven teams have gone from
the number one overall seed to not making the playoffs
the next year.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The Lions have a chance.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
They have a big chance to do that. And I'm
highly disappointed.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
The number one seed last year obviously, and it's right
there too. Give me the Lions best win this year.
We have to pull up everything. Have it off the
top of my head because because this is another one
when you take a look at the Lions season and
be honest with yourself, because they haven't beaten anybody.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
The one team they beat wasn't the team that they
are now.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's the only game that they've won against the good
like a good team.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
The Cowboys are a good team. The only teams are
under five hundred. What I'm saying, we can't with my
point is you can't do that like they're good or
great at the time, because.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You get to see what a team is and it's
at the end.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Of the year.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
What I'm saying, when they two seconds ago, we were
saying that that Jerry Jones got it right, we alle
him an apology.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Then they go off and lose and and.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But no, that's not that I'm just saying when they
do versus five hundred teams, just your final record. It's
not your record when the season starts and you will
one and oh or two and oh. But they should
have win. The Bucks are bad.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I'm just saying that was a good win at the time,
and I'm saying they should have right there with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They should have won.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The Ravens are under five hundred. The Bucks are under
five hundred. The only the only win that they got
over a good team now is the best.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And they were bad, and they didn't close out against
a handful of good teams they had to chack, for instance,
the Steelers, the Rams, the Packers. I mean, they didn't
close out. Absolutely wouldn't, right, That's what I'm saying. They
didn't close out against these teams that are good, neither
good or great teams that they had a chance to, all.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
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Speaker 4 (09:18):
Now, they got a hope, they own a hope and
wishes they got to do their part win the last
two and then hope that you know they faught.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Away that niney you'll get you on the sub I mean, okay,
don't act like we ain't never seen it before.
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Speaker 3 (10:09):
He's still moving. Big hullabaloo up there in the Bay.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Last night, in a game that should have been a
positive because for the first time in a hot second,
the Golden State Warriors got a good win. Stephen Curry
got went nuclear in the third quarter. They end up
don't be good team. They beat a playoff Orlando Magic
team by about twenty points going away.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You took that right, you say, we'll talk about later.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
But the big headline to come out of this game
early in the second half. During a timeout, they were scuffling.
At that point, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green have a
little spat on the sideline. It culminates with Draymond Green
getting up and going to the locker room. He missed
about nine minutes of game action, so he was in
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the back for about fifteen or fifteen twenty minutes or so.
Eventually comes back just before the start of the fourth quarter,
never takes off his warm ups, never gets back into
the game. Take a listen to both Steve Kerr and
Draymond after the game trying to explain.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Away what happened.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
We got into it obviously, and you know, I took
the time out just because I thought we lost our
focus there a little bit, and we had it out
a little bit, and you know, he made his decision
to go back to the locker room to cool off.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Everything is private, and yeah, I got I got nothing
further down.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
He didn't play the last twenty minutes. Would you have
gone back to.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going back yet.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
And was that a decision by him.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Well he left, he went back to the locker room.
Tram On, what happened and why did you leave the bench?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Timper spilled over, and.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
I just thought it was best.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
I got it.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
I don't think there was a situation where it was
going to get better, So that was just the best
to remove myself.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know, that's it.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
What cause the Argumentsketball that's what we do. We play basketball.
It's emotional game. You know, people lose their emotions sometimes
it happens. It is what it is. You know, we've
been at this now for a long time. You know,
sometimes you wait people for a long time. There's a
level of comfort and happens. We move forward.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
I mean, do you feel like this all linger at all? Now?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We move forward?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know what what, I'm glad he walked out on
Steve Kerr, and Steve Kerr deserves all of it, all
the smoke. He has created this monster in Draymond Green
and to have him walk out on his teammates and
for it to be okay, and for I would have
told that dude, you better not come back out here.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Even if you're in the game, you better stay there.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
If you're going to walk away, from your teammates when
you're trying to win a damn game. How dare Steve Kerr?
Why does he continue to come to this guy? Steve
curdle milk is what you should be called, because your
methods of coaching is ridiculous. He allowed him to suck
a bunch of guy, never even gave him a suspension.
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Let Draymond talk about he walked away from the team
and there was no discipline, and then they didn't want
to suspend him because they wanted to make sure he
was there for the ring ceremony so that he could
get daw would and said, you got suspended for ten games,
and we're giving out the wings on opening night and
you won't get George that night. I don't understand it.
How do the other players allow that you're another player
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on the team. You're gonna let this guy walk out?
Everybody has disagreement. You can't walk out on your teammates.
What kind of coach had Steve Kerr turned into to
allow this guy to do whatever he wants and then
come back out Kelvin, Seriously, you play basketball, come back
out for one. You walked out on us. We're a team,
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went together lose together. We can argue you can't walk out.
It's ridiculous. I don't understand Steve Kerr, but I'm glad
Dre mom he's giving you a ton of rope. Use
it make him look like the fool, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It looks like.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Really, Steve Kerr has no control over the team. You
can walk out, don't come back here. You don't come
back and do you apologize to everybody on this bench
and this team and tell him it'll never happen again.
Come back at Oh, he wouldn't go back in the game.
And you know what tells you how week Steve Kerr?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Is you?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
What the reporter said, What the reporter asked him was that,
d yours? What I was when I heard that? I
was like, what hold on? What ask him? That told
you that? That shows the leeway and the articulum, the
excuses that have been built all right, a couple things,
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so you you touched on a lot of that. And
we disagree and argued all day yesterday we starting off
the show here mostly agreeing on this. This has been
something that's been built up with this team for now
ten fifteen, ten, twelve years. They've allowed things with Draymond
that have not been allowed with any other teammate. And
you just mentioned something, you said, well, why would somebody
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else on the team should have been like, hey man,
you can't be doing that. That's the issue is that
their best player, Steph is not that kind of guy.
So Draymond would have Draymond. You get what I'm saying.
If there was another Draymond, Draymond would have Draymond greened
it right then. But there's nobody else who's built like that.
And so Steve Kerr has built and created where Draymond
gets away with stuff that nobody else could get with.
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Because if Draymond tried to get away with the stuff
Draymond does, he would have let him know.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He would have checked out.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I do on, dont for one second, if Michael Jordan
was on that bench you to grab him and said.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Where the heck where you're going?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
You go on opposite if you left, when you come back, No,
we're good, we good on you get back. Oh, we
don't need you. You didn't want to be a part
of this comeback just win whatever. We don't need you
right now. So let me elaborate on a couple other things.
I think Steve Kerr is so much indoctrinated with Phil
Jackson's ideology and the way Phil Jackson coach.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Phil Jackson was so unique.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
He was telling Dennis Rodman, Hey, go blow steam off
in Vegas, and I think Steve Kerr adopted too much
of that, where I know I got different personalities. I
gotta allow this guy to do that. I gotta let
this guy do that. I'm gonna give him leeway, I'm
gonna be hard on him, and I think he's trying
to do that too much. Draymond has been allowed to
do too much. From a league standpoint, and from a
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warrior standpoint, you can't stop people in the chest, punch
your own teammates, punch other people head like Rudy Gobert,
cuss people out, cuss Kevin Durant out that so much
so that he leads a team like how much more
can the man get away with? And that's the thing
that blows me away. And Steve Kerr has to have
a point where he puts his foot down or that
team who checks Draymond. Nobody does anybody in the organization
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check Draymond.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Does the bully ever get bullied?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And it reminds me of a scene in one of
my favorite movies, Road to Perdition. Don't anybody ever see
Rode to Perdition. There's a scene where basically the head
boss man his son is just a terrible and competent gangster.
Tom Hanks is really the one who should be a son,
but he's not his biological son, the bad dude. The
bad son goes off dustin wild stuff and even hurts
Tom Hanks's kids, shoot kills his family and everything. And
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then basically Tom finally gets to him and he says, well,
why you let him do that? And he said, well,
asked my son, what do you want me to do?
And that's what Steve Curzy created where they look at
Draymond and go, well, I mean that's our guy.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
What do you want us to do?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
No, somebody check him, because then he gets all philosophical
at the press conferences.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Oh man, well, just you know you're too old, Raymond.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You've been doing this for too long, and at some
point you expect somebody from top down the Warriors to
check him, and it never.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I just can't believe.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I can't believe that somebody's supposed to have been punched the bully.
I'm talking in the NBA as a whole, we've said
that all somebody was supposed to have been Chin checked him.
Somebody gets away with so much throughout this league from
a league standpoint to the team organizationally within his own
locker room, checking his coach. And again, guys get into
a coach and get into a place he's saying that
you can have it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You just walk away because remember what he said, Draymond
said this. We didn't air this part.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
He said, I walked away so that it wouldn't get
worse like what you're gonna punch.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Steve Right.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
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Speaker 4 (18:42):
Now, Steve just mentioned there Rob G Kyle Whittingham with
the Utah Use for twenty one seasons now is the
Michigan Wolverrenes head football coach and uh and it comes
with agaves a lot of us success out there in Utah.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Yeah, man, it's kind of surprising that happened the way
it did. Consider about a month and a half ago.
Kyle Winningham was trying to be forced into early retirement
by the people in Utah. They decided they'd had enough
of him. They wanted him to go out and kind
of leave them alone. And he said, I'm not retiring,
I'm kind of entering the transfer portal. All it took
was a Sharon Moore misstep to now he's the new
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headman at Michigan. He's got a five year deal and
at sixty six years old, brighter days, they're ahead in
ann Arboro. I'm sorry, I'm not buying this. All these
young guys out here, these young coaches. A sixty six
year old guy, you give him a five year contract?
Thumbs down on this. This is Pete Carroll two point
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zero and winning him.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, it is a pork chop and a Deli sandwich
and ann Arborough away from from uh, I'm not here.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
See how many ribs is? How many ribs is? Rob
Parker away?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I feel like I'm Chris Rock and I'm gonna get
you sucker right? One rib? How much for one rig?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
How are you gonna be ages? You're dad near the
same age. We're not even close to the same, are
you at?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Mean?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Your birthday is next month. How old will you be?
Bah blah blah. I'm talking about I'm not gonna put
you out there because but.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
No. Seven of them saying sixty two, sixty three in January, No.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Sixty two in January. He's a man of the six.
He's been after like this, eighty six.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
He's been in Utah for twenty one years? Are you
nothing good has ever come out of Utah? Can you
give me something the good that's come out of Utah
twenty one years?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's the best Michigan can do. Johnny Utah from point right,
because that's the best Michigan can do.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
A sixty six year old guy as their head coach
and give that guy a five year contract taking him
into his seventies.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's a bad liar.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
That's Here's here's why I think it'll work for exactly
that duration of the contract, three to five years.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Here's why do I think this is?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Obviously you're got your your You're twenty years ago, Nick Saban,
give her take. No, But what I think you do
have is a guy who all of a sudden can
get this thing right because he has been very successful
in Utah.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I mean undefeated, seasons ten to two seasons.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Beating USC, beaten all the Pac twelve teams he had
to beat.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
That's why I asked him, that's why he entered the
Trent because they didn't just think why they didn't want
to make I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Tell you, man, that's perfectly fine, because things run their course.
We talk about this all the time. Mike Tomlin hasn't
had a bad season, but it might be time to
go away. You talk about John Harpo who hasn't really
had a bad season, but it might be time to
go away.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Twenty one season with anyone is a long time. So
I think the given what he has been able to
do for so many years in Utah, make them a
very relevant team, always in the top twenty, always the
top fifteen for that times. And then you have it
now with Michigan's and dominate resources with Michigan's ability to
get some commitments.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, I'll just say you just got a text from
Charles Barkley. He said two good things did come out
of Utah. You ready, John starked in and called him alone.
All right, Charles, you might have that right.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's the best. That's the best that came out of
Utah right there. That's about it, Charles, I'm sorry. Nothing else.
You can't even get a drink at a bar in Utah.
You know that Songilake City.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
You ain't lying about that, listens, And that might be
why he didn't want to call it quits. He might
still have some party in them and some going on
the drinking them. Come on out to somewhere else. Can't
do that in Utah. But I think this is absolutely
a stopgap.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't think they found their guy of the future.
They didn't find their twenty year stretch guy. They're still
looking for that. But this is a guy who could
come in. He's known for discipline, he's known for physicality,
which are two things that will go well in that harbor.
And if he can do what he did in Utah
with the resources and in the commitments and recruits, he
should be able to get. With that big blue Michigan
behind him, he should do very well.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I'm just a national title before he leaves.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is he gonna win one?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
If you would have give, if you would, if you
would have say to me, he's gonna He's gonna win
the national championship. I can't buy it. Ohio State's there.
They're not going anywhere. They still have a young.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Vibe win this year Indiana about the.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
B K, Yeah, okay, but they have a young, vibrant coach.
They don't have some old man who's sixty six years old.
Oregon's rolland where where they were champions going.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Outould hear this age ism from you?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I'll give you the seventy the seventy threes, Bill Belichick,
the seventy fours and the and the Pete Carroll's and
all that. I'll give you that. What is the we're
in the same high school together. No, we were not,
you know, we were not.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was a senior. You don't know. If he got
held back one time, he might.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Be a super What is the average retirement age in
the United States?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Do you know what it is? Yes, seventy two? Now
it's sixty five. It ain't sixty five? Who is?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's fine, he's already sixty six. And they gave him
a five year retirement package.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And listen what they gave him, and Nick saving that
I'm coming back to Alabama. They would kick the boar
out of there so fast and tell him come on
back and he's seventy some years old.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I'm with you on the Pete Carrolls and the movies
like that. Sixty six. For a three to five year runway,
it can work.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Let's get there. Let's get to your Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And I'm not gonna sit here and make a big
stink about it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
But I told you, did you tell me? I told you?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And we have a Jordan's bet, And I know that
they're not officially eliminated.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I know that. Are they gonna make the black what say? Yeah,
I got no chice?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah no, they're not going to affect the player. Yeah,
you can on it and I gotta ride it out.
And we've seen crazy things happen. No, we have how
I really my brains?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You Oh but okay, I mean anyway, they're not in
it because if you look at that deep did.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
You sort of run defense? Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They gave up two hundred and thirty yards on the
ground to the Steelers who can't run the ball, No TJ.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Watt. I mean just you could go look up and
down and needed calls at the end.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, I can't believe passing, the offensive passing appearance or
whatever it was it was.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
You know you're saying the last one was the last
one for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Also and also the Steelers had an offensive passing appearance
as well, they had one earlier in the game, so
they had a touchdown taking off the board.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm talking about the last one.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
There's no doubt in my mind. But I'm not surprised
here that the Lions took a step back this season.
And the reason that I said that they would not
make the playoffs has nothing to do with my hate
for Detroit. Hey for the Lions, Hey for Dan Gambles
(01:56):
called NFL analysis. Why I bring up that I've covered
the league since nineteen eighty seven. I really take a
look at this stuff, and you can't lose two coordinators
and have it not affect anything. And that's the part
that was the reason why I said it. And I
even told you that they can win nine or ten
(02:18):
games and not make the playoffs, which they might if
they split the last two, they'll have ten wins and
not make the playoffs. And that is exactly what I
was talking about about that division, about that team, about
Dank Campbell, Dan Gamble again, early in the game, there
was a field goal to be had.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You take that field goal early on.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Guess what you're setting up for a game winning field goal,
keep your season alive and well where you still would
even have a chance at the division. So this comes
as no surprise to me at all. It ain't based
on hate. It's it's facts, not feelings. And I've seen
other teams lose both of their coordinators and take a
(02:59):
step back.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I told you the division was better, right, Packers, Bears
way better. And even the.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Vikings, who gave you the death blow, the Minnesota Vikings
right on.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Your home field, lose that one.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
That's the game that killed them.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I told you the Lions window was closed, and I'm
more confident today that they let the Steelers come into
their building with the season on the line, and they
got roughed over. They got worked over like a burger
and fries on both lines, offensive and defensive line.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, I think you've give a little too much to
the Steelers, But I have a whole lot of issues. Specifically,
I'm gonna start with Dan Campbell and his gambles, and
I've been sitting here on the air, off the air
telling you the same thing. I don't like those and
in the same phrase I keep using, it's as if
he didn't know this, and he should because he played football,
he was an assistant coach of years and he's obviously
(04:00):
been a head coach for years. It's called situational awareness
and the idea that you would just walk into something
going well, this is just what we do, this is
just who we are.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And that's also called the definition and sanity doing the
same thing over expecting different results. And to me, Dan
Campbell put his team in multiple situations, multiple games this
year where they were in these games and had a
chance to win it to lose. If you go back
to what he was doing against the Packers, going forward
on his own side of the ball for no reason,
not putting, not taking field goals.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Same thing with the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
You remember how close both of those games were right there,
You're right there in the game, you got a chance
to win it. And it's specifically this past one you
just mentioned it steals go down and get a three.
All right, they get a field go, no big deal,
you go march down, you kick a field goal, fourth
and four whatever it was fourth and for the goal
of the fourth, what are you doing? You tie it up?
This is called December football, Rob. You have to make
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wise decisions to get into the postseason.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The whole goal is to get in there. And then
you say, well, you know what, we're here.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You never know and he he's putting himself in his
positions where you know your team is training, you have
a million guys hurt, you know, you're fighting for your life.
They need to lean on you sometimes and you say, guys,
we're taking the three. I know, coach with m we're
taking the points because you're disrespecting the game, dispecting the
Steelers in this case, the Eagles another time, and the
(05:19):
Packers another time, and you're disrespecting your team. You work
hard for every yard, especially in December. This is when
teams are locking in, they're getting focused for the postseason
or trying to make a postseason run. So that was
the first thing that I had issues with. Secondly, what
the heck we talked about this before. I don't know
what's going on with their personal training staff. But them
(05:40):
in the forty nine ers, they got some they got
some real issues with guys. Regularly, it's football, everybody's gonna
get hurt. They are regularly having big time guys when
small guys, middling guys get hurt. To the tune of
what what's going on is that how they're practicing. Are
they practicing too hard? You know, pads all the time,
not taking some days off. There's something going on where
(06:00):
they always are out, They're always entered.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The middle was seven and a half point favorites at
home game even with the injuries.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
But the Steelers were missing some some players. But you
can't keep leaning on that. And they should have beaten this.
They should have beaten the Steelers. That you should have went,
whether it be the field, go out there to win
one or should be touched out. Where we will disagree
is I do think that was a touchdown because we
see that play all the time in the NFL. I
mean teams, some teams make literal habits of that play.
Both of them play the first one, the first one.
(06:28):
I have to me, that's the one I have a
big issue with. It happens all the time, like and
not to mention if you watch it and if they
show it again, he literally pushed the defender, pushed the
receiver Tesla into the defender.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
You're the only one on this bad wagon. You'll get you.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I be guarantee if Rob g he would say the
same thing. I just I just think I'm not even
that wasn't even where I led the show, So I'm
not acting like I didn't say that was the sole reason.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Anybody to watch that you give up to you give
up three explosive plays five yards of more.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He expects to win that game. In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It happens all the time the game, you know, it
happens all the time. You go get yours, but they
got they. You can't let the Steelers who don't.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yards on you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You cannot get the ball right on you like that.
And so that's it. That's a big game that you
cannot afford those and order.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
The Lions had three plays for negative two yards and
of course the safety there.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, that was they played. They played poorly and still
had a chance to win it. And I go back
to you kick the field goal, you were winning by one.
You wipe the sweat off your forehead and you go
we walked away.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
The Super Bowl era, only seven teams have gone from
the number one overall seed to not making the playoffs
the next year.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The Lions have a chance.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
They have a big chance to do that. And I'm
highly disappointed.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
The number one seed last year obviously, and it's right
there too. Give me the Lions best win this year.
We have to pull up everything. Have it off the
top of my head because because this is another one
when you take a look at the Lions season and
be honest with yourself, because they haven't beaten anybody.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
The one team they beat wasn't the team that they
are now.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
That's the only game that they've won against the good
like a good team.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
The Cowboys are a good team. The only teams are
under five hundred. What I'm saying, we can't with my
point is you can't do that like they're good or
great at the time, because.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You get to see what a team is and it's
at the end.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Of the year.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
What I'm saying, when they two seconds ago, we were
saying that that Jerry Jones got it right, we alle
him an apology.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Then they go off and lose and and.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But no, that's not that I'm just saying when they
do versus five hundred teams, just your final record. It's
not your record when the season starts and you will
one and oh or two and oh. But they should
have win. The Bucks are bad.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I'm just saying that was a good win at the time,
and I'm saying they should have right there with the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They should have won.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The Ravens are under five hundred. The Bucks are under
five hundred. The only the only win that they got
over a good team now is the best.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And they were bad, and they didn't close out against
a handful of good teams they had to chack, for instance,
the Steelers, the Rams, the Packers. I mean, they didn't
close out. Absolutely wouldn't, right, That's what I'm saying. They
didn't close out against these teams that are good, neither
good or great teams that they had a chance to, all.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Now, they got a hope, they own a hope and
wishes they got to do their part win the last
two and then hope that you know they faught.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Away that niney you'll get you on the sub I mean, okay,
don't act like we ain't never seen it before.
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Speaker 3 (10:09):
He's still moving. Big hullabaloo up there in the Bay.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Last night, in a game that should have been a
positive because for the first time in a hot second,
the Golden State Warriors got a good win. Stephen Curry
got went nuclear in the third quarter. They end up
don't be good team. They beat a playoff Orlando Magic
team by about twenty points going away.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You took that right, you say, we'll talk about later.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
But the big headline to come out of this game
early in the second half. During a timeout, they were scuffling.
At that point, Steve Kerr and Draymond Green have a
little spat on the sideline. It culminates with Draymond Green
getting up and going to the locker room. He missed
about nine minutes of game action, so he was in
(10:53):
the back for about fifteen or fifteen twenty minutes or so.
Eventually comes back just before the start of the fourth quarter,
never takes off his warm ups, never gets back into
the game. Take a listen to both Steve Kerr and
Draymond after the game trying to explain.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Away what happened.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
We got into it obviously, and you know, I took
the time out just because I thought we lost our
focus there a little bit, and we had it out
a little bit, and you know, he made his decision
to go back to the locker room to cool off.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
And that's all I'm going to say about it. It's everything.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Everything is private, and yeah, I got I got nothing
further down.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
He didn't play the last twenty minutes. Would you have
gone back to.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
No, No, he wasn't. He wasn't going back yet.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
And was that a decision by him.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Well he left, he went back to the locker room.
Tram On, what happened and why did you leave the bench?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Timper spilled over, and.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
I just thought it was best.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
I got it.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
I don't think there was a situation where it was
going to get better, So that was just the best
to remove myself.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know, that's it.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
What cause the Argumentsketball that's what we do. We play basketball.
It's emotional game. You know, people lose their emotions sometimes
it happens. It is what it is. You know, we've
been at this now for a long time. You know,
sometimes you wait people for a long time. There's a
level of comfort and happens. We move forward.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
I mean, do you feel like this all linger at all? Now?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We move forward?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know what what, I'm glad he walked out on
Steve Kerr, and Steve Kerr deserves all of it, all
the smoke. He has created this monster in Draymond Green
and to have him walk out on his teammates and
for it to be okay, and for I would have
told that dude, you better not come back out here.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Even if you're in the game, you better stay there.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
If you're going to walk away, from your teammates when
you're trying to win a damn game. How dare Steve Kerr?
Why does he continue to come to this guy? Steve
curdle milk is what you should be called, because your
methods of coaching is ridiculous. He allowed him to suck
a bunch of guy, never even gave him a suspension.
(13:14):
Let Draymond talk about he walked away from the team
and there was no discipline, and then they didn't want
to suspend him because they wanted to make sure he
was there for the ring ceremony so that he could
get daw would and said, you got suspended for ten games,
and we're giving out the wings on opening night and
you won't get George that night. I don't understand it.
How do the other players allow that you're another player
(13:37):
on the team. You're gonna let this guy walk out?
Everybody has disagreement. You can't walk out on your teammates.
What kind of coach had Steve Kerr turned into to
allow this guy to do whatever he wants and then
come back out Kelvin, Seriously, you play basketball, come back
out for one. You walked out on us. We're a team,
(14:02):
went together lose together. We can argue you can't walk out.
It's ridiculous. I don't understand Steve Kerr, but I'm glad
Dre mom he's giving you a ton of rope. Use
it make him look like the fool, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It looks like.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Really, Steve Kerr has no control over the team. You
can walk out, don't come back here. You don't come
back and do you apologize to everybody on this bench
and this team and tell him it'll never happen again.
Come back at Oh, he wouldn't go back in the game.
And you know what tells you how week Steve Kerr?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Is you?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
What the reporter said, What the reporter asked him was that,
d yours? What I was when I heard that? I
was like, what hold on? What ask him? That told
you that? That shows the leeway and the articulum, the
excuses that have been built all right, a couple things,
(15:06):
so you you touched on a lot of that. And
we disagree and argued all day yesterday we starting off
the show here mostly agreeing on this. This has been
something that's been built up with this team for now
ten fifteen, ten, twelve years. They've allowed things with Draymond
that have not been allowed with any other teammate. And
you just mentioned something, you said, well, why would somebody
(15:27):
else on the team should have been like, hey man,
you can't be doing that. That's the issue is that
their best player, Steph is not that kind of guy.
So Draymond would have Draymond. You get what I'm saying.
If there was another Draymond, Draymond would have Draymond greened
it right then. But there's nobody else who's built like that.
And so Steve Kerr has built and created where Draymond
gets away with stuff that nobody else could get with.
(15:48):
Because if Draymond tried to get away with the stuff
Draymond does, he would have let him know.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
He would have checked out.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I do on, dont for one second, if Michael Jordan
was on that bench you to grab him and said.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Where the heck where you're going?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
You go on opposite if you left, when you come back, No,
we're good, we good on you get back. Oh, we
don't need you. You didn't want to be a part
of this comeback just win whatever. We don't need you
right now. So let me elaborate on a couple other things.
I think Steve Kerr is so much indoctrinated with Phil
Jackson's ideology and the way Phil Jackson coach.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Phil Jackson was so unique.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
He was telling Dennis Rodman, Hey, go blow steam off
in Vegas, and I think Steve Kerr adopted too much
of that, where I know I got different personalities. I
gotta allow this guy to do that. I gotta let
this guy do that. I'm gonna give him leeway, I'm
gonna be hard on him, and I think he's trying
to do that too much. Draymond has been allowed to
do too much. From a league standpoint, and from a
(16:40):
warrior standpoint, you can't stop people in the chest, punch
your own teammates, punch other people head like Rudy Gobert,
cuss people out, cuss Kevin Durant out that so much
so that he leads a team like how much more
can the man get away with? And that's the thing
that blows me away. And Steve Kerr has to have
a point where he puts his foot down or that
team who checks Draymond. Nobody does anybody in the organization
(17:05):
check Draymond.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Does the bully ever get bullied?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And it reminds me of a scene in one of
my favorite movies, Road to Perdition. Don't anybody ever see
Rode to Perdition. There's a scene where basically the head
boss man his son is just a terrible and competent gangster.
Tom Hanks is really the one who should be a son,
but he's not his biological son, the bad dude. The
bad son goes off dustin wild stuff and even hurts
Tom Hanks's kids, shoot kills his family and everything. And
(17:33):
then basically Tom finally gets to him and he says, well,
why you let him do that? And he said, well,
asked my son, what do you want me to do?
And that's what Steve Curzy created where they look at
Draymond and go, well, I mean that's our guy.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
What do you want us to do?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
No, somebody check him, because then he gets all philosophical
at the press conferences.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Oh man, well, just you know you're too old, Raymond.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You've been doing this for too long, and at some
point you expect somebody from top down the Warriors to
check him, and it never.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I just can't believe.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I can't believe that somebody's supposed to have been punched the bully.
I'm talking in the NBA as a whole, we've said
that all somebody was supposed to have been Chin checked him.
Somebody gets away with so much throughout this league from
a league standpoint to the team organizationally within his own
locker room, checking his coach. And again, guys get into
a coach and get into a place he's saying that
you can have it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You just walk away because remember what he said, Draymond
said this. We didn't air this part.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
He said, I walked away so that it wouldn't get
worse like what you're gonna punch.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Steve Right.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
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Speaker 4 (18:42):
Now, Steve just mentioned there Rob G Kyle Whittingham with
the Utah Use for twenty one seasons now is the
Michigan Wolverrenes head football coach and uh and it comes
with agaves a lot of us success out there in Utah.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Yeah, man, it's kind of surprising that happened the way
it did. Consider about a month and a half ago.
Kyle Winningham was trying to be forced into early retirement
by the people in Utah. They decided they'd had enough
of him. They wanted him to go out and kind
of leave them alone. And he said, I'm not retiring,
I'm kind of entering the transfer portal. All it took
was a Sharon Moore misstep to now he's the new
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headman at Michigan. He's got a five year deal and
at sixty six years old, brighter days, they're ahead in
ann Arboro. I'm sorry, I'm not buying this. All these
young guys out here, these young coaches. A sixty six
year old guy, you give him a five year contract?
Thumbs down on this. This is Pete Carroll two point
(19:38):
zero and winning him.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
No, it is a pork chop and a Deli sandwich
and ann Arborough away from from uh, I'm not here.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
See how many ribs is? How many ribs is? Rob
Parker away?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I feel like I'm Chris Rock and I'm gonna get
you sucker right? One rib? How much for one rig?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
How are you gonna be ages? You're dad near the
same age. We're not even close to the same, are
you at?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Mean?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Your birthday is next month. How old will you be?
Bah blah blah. I'm talking about I'm not gonna put
you out there because but.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
No. Seven of them saying sixty two, sixty three in January, No.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Sixty two in January. He's a man of the six.
He's been after like this, eighty six.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
He's been in Utah for twenty one years? Are you
nothing good has ever come out of Utah? Can you
give me something the good that's come out of Utah
twenty one years?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
That's the best Michigan can do. Johnny Utah from point right,
because that's the best Michigan can do.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
A sixty six year old guy as their head coach
and give that guy a five year contract taking him
into his seventies.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's a bad liar.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
That's Here's here's why I think it'll work for exactly
that duration of the contract, three to five years.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Here's why do I think this is?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Obviously you're got your your You're twenty years ago, Nick Saban,
give her take. No, But what I think you do
have is a guy who all of a sudden can
get this thing right because he has been very successful
in Utah.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I mean undefeated, seasons ten to two seasons.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Beating USC, beaten all the Pac twelve teams he had
to beat.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
That's why I asked him, that's why he entered the
Trent because they didn't just think why they didn't want
to make I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Tell you, man, that's perfectly fine, because things run their course.
We talk about this all the time. Mike Tomlin hasn't
had a bad season, but it might be time to
go away. You talk about John Harpo who hasn't really
had a bad season, but it might be time to
go away.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Twenty one season with anyone is a long time. So
I think the given what he has been able to
do for so many years in Utah, make them a
very relevant team, always in the top twenty, always the
top fifteen for that times. And then you have it
now with Michigan's and dominate resources with Michigan's ability to
get some commitments.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, I'll just say you just got a text from
Charles Barkley. He said two good things did come out
of Utah. You ready, John starked in and called him alone.
All right, Charles, you might have that right.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's the best. That's the best that came out of
Utah right there. That's about it, Charles, I'm sorry. Nothing else.
You can't even get a drink at a bar in Utah.
You know that Songilake City.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
You ain't lying about that, listens, And that might be
why he didn't want to call it quits. He might
still have some party in them and some going on
the drinking them. Come on out to somewhere else. Can't
do that in Utah. But I think this is absolutely
a stopgap.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't think they found their guy of the future.
They didn't find their twenty year stretch guy. They're still
looking for that. But this is a guy who could
come in. He's known for discipline, he's known for physicality,
which are two things that will go well in that harbor.
And if he can do what he did in Utah
with the resources and in the commitments and recruits, he
should be able to get. With that big blue Michigan
behind him, he should do very well.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I'm just a national title before he leaves.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Is he gonna win one?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
If you would have give, if you would, if you
would have say to me, he's gonna He's gonna win
the national championship. I can't buy it. Ohio State's there.
They're not going anywhere. They still have a young.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Vibe win this year Indiana about the.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
B K, Yeah, okay, but they have a young, vibrant coach.
They don't have some old man who's sixty six years old.
Oregon's rolland where where they were champions going.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Outould hear this age ism from you?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
I'll give you the seventy the seventy threes, Bill Belichick,
the seventy fours and the and the Pete Carroll's and
all that. I'll give you that. What is the we're
in the same high school together. No, we were not,
you know, we were not.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was a senior. You don't know. If he got
held back one time, he might.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Be a super What is the average retirement age in
the United States?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Do you know what it is? Yes, seventy two? Now
it's sixty five. It ain't sixty five? Who is?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
It's fine, he's already sixty six. And they gave him
a five year retirement package.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And listen what they gave him, and Nick saving that
I'm coming back to Alabama. They would kick the boar
out of there so fast and tell him come on
back and he's seventy some years old.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I'm with you on the Pete Carrolls and the movies
like that. Sixty six. For a three to five year runway,
it can work.
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