April 7, 2026 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us whether Giannis Antetokounmpo is really as committed to the Milwaukee Bucks as he claims to be, and explain why they disagree with Fernando Mendoza’s decision to skip the upcoming NFL Draft. Plus, FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss swings by to discuss Michigan winning the 2025-26 college basketball national championship, the cultural impact of the Fab Five, and much more! Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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Speaker 2 (01:16):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Michigan Homer Martin White, I'm sorry, Fox Sports Radio Weekend
host and Michigan alum.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He's a Michigan alum and a USC alum. He's both.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I mean, you know, let's see your shirt turn around.
You got any naming your colleges on today.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Turn around.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
See if you say somebody I like that, that's cool.
I don't think i've ever seen the black one. Yeah,
that's cool. You know how big? Is the closet too
too much? Let me get it out there.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I already know because because I just keep you know what,
There's two things that I do a lot. I love
the pullovers and stuff like this, so I do. I'm
always looking for the best one, and then eventually I'll
get rid of something that I tried and maybe that
I don't like them as much. And sweatpants. I'm always
looking for the perfect pair of sweatpants. So I'll see
them buy him, and I'm gonna stop myself because I'm like,
(02:08):
I already got three pair of black sweatpants. I don't
need it anymore. But I look at them and I'm like, well,
I could get these tailored. They're real soft, and I'll
think about it, you know what I mean, And then
if I like them, then another pair has to go,
you know, So I'm not keeping three.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Listen, I could never wear jeans again and be okay.
I mean, obviously going out I have to, but like
going out like a night out, but I could never
wear jeans again, and be okay, I'm with you on that.
I am in my full Sopranos velure suit era all
the time because you know what it is too, and
you'll you'll appreciate it. I have to wear suits every day, no,
(02:41):
so like I just to just throw on something that's chill,
like a like a Nike sweatsuit or something Jordan sweat that.
If I could be an abbit, that's all I would do.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We have YouTube evidence.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
If you I got to come in with the hat
that matched, the jacket that matched, the shoes that match
the pants. You ain't not wearing not a single sweatsuit, Rob,
did he wears what's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
On the show?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You see me wear sweatsuits once or twice, not that often.
You just you got somewhere, all right, what do you got, Rob?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I know it's up from here on out. If you
got on the sweatsuits, sponsor you boy, send.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Me the sweat You're trying to take over Rich Davis's
rocause Riche David's worse than sweatpats.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You could be him.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But you know he does what then he but then
again he does jean and T shirt. Now Covino is
gonna give you a nice jacket.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And some jeans. He really is. He is definitely gonna
give you a night now. He might not see you.
What are you wearing? You say? A nice jacket? Hey?
Thanks Rob. That boy can't see nothing. He really can't.
Kind of work on that, all right.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I got some YouTube beings weighing in on some of
these topics. Here speaking of Kelvin, this is a great one.
D Dubb says Calvin over here talking about Michigan in
the Fab five, and he got an LA Dodger shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I was shaking my head. What do you want me
to do? I live in LA. I can't have a
baseball team.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Tigers.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Huh see that's terrible. Dodgers up to nothing. By the way,
he'll be big man when I'm sitting on the desk.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Like a.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Get them, says Rob. Don't be hating on the Fab five.
You might get pimp slappy. He returned back to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I go to Detroit all the time. I have a
house there. I have a barber shop that's been open
for twenty four years. When you land, is it they
still love me.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
They love you because I've spent twenty years there and
I represent the city always. I've never acted like that's true.
You know, Detroit is like not a part of my
life big time. I got married there, I bought a
house there, my whole life.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Got a barbershop there, starter house there, still got one.
Used to have them backyard parties. We can't talk about
legendary they called rob the black helf. We do have,
we do have pictures. Did they fax any information you
know from there?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
No facts?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Narron says, l O L changing the culture. I didn't
know they hung banners for changing culture.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
He says, right up there, culture changer change.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I guess what.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
They took that one down too, closet somewhere, Martin, they
had to take it down, ed Martin.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
I don't want to know ed MUD's name, right, Just
think about that. You know ed MUD's name with the
fab file. That's how you know you spent time in Michigan.
You know Ed Martin's name. All right, rob Gie too.
Another thing we got to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Speaking of basketball, but this version is the NBA, the
chaos that is the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, speaking of changing culture, Yannis sounds like he want
a culture shift in Milwaukee. If he's gonna stay now, Giannis,
the will he or won't he?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Request?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The trade has taken yet another turn on the same
day that ESPN is a full expose, and you know
what's going on in Milwaukee. How unsatisfied he is with
the front office, how Doc Rivers is over here saying
blasphem and stuff at team meetings. Coincidentally, we'll get into
that later. Yannis did an exclusive interview with the Milwaukee
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Journal Sentinel.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I like him already, give the hometown good on him,
you know what I mean? Like seriously, that's who he
should be given an exclusive story to, not to a
national outlet and Nickel forgetting the exclusive.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes, put the name a local paper, right, Yes, I
like that.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And during the conversation, Laurie asked Giannis if he saw
a path for Hi himself to come back and stay
on Milwaukee. To Giannis's credit, answered quickly without hesitation, one
hundred percent yes, yes, And he goes on and says later,
I want to be here, I want to be with
my team. I want to win here again. This is
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my home. I've spent more years here than I did
in Greece. It is my home. It's I want to
help the community with my wife and my brothers. As
long as it's great organized basketball and the team's willing
to play selfless basketball, chase the same goal as bigger
than themselves, I will be here.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And I've told you old time and time again, he
ain't going nowhere. I've said this to you because he's
a different guy. And if he really wanted out of there,
and and and I know people have come up with
I remember, what was it the year that they got
swept by Miami and Miami wound up going to the
championship that year? What was that in the bubble too?
Was that in the that was in the bubble? Right,
(07:16):
because there was a second time they went right twenty two, okay,
and everybody that was when he everybody said that you
should go to Miami. You remember that, like go to
Miami and blah blah blah blah blah, and don't stay
in Milwaukee. He signed an extension. You're dumb, you're crazy, whatever,
(07:36):
you'll never win. Everybody pointed a finger, you'll never win
in Milwaukee, and guess what, he wound up winning a championship.
He's a made man. He's comfortable, he's not I don't
I don't see him as trying to be a ring chaser.
He's never gonna be the greatest, considered the greatest of all,
you know what I mean, none of that's on the
(07:56):
table for him. So and they did, They've done everything
that he's they asked them. They went and got Damian
Lillard and gave up everything.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That they could right to bring him in.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
They did it, and they got Drew Holliday for him,
Like they've gone out and said, hey, what do you need?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What are we trying to do here?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And even when that conversation about going to the Knicks
and all that, I just I don't feel that with him.
I really believe, even though you know, maybe the outside
people and maybe some tweets that people read into, if
he really didn't want to be there, it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Just take two seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because if you're the front office and you're the general
manager ownership and he says, I don't want to be
here anymore, that dude won you a championship. He's amazed,
Like even the people there got to respect that. And
you don't want to do that to somebody who doesn't
really want to beat him anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What they said it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Sean's reported that they had some meeting with gentlemen agreement
a couple of years back where they basically said, you know,
look if there's a point. When they did his extension
until twenty three, I believe it was, they said, hey,
look when you if it gets to the point where
you know, let us know, we'll just if he will
do what's best for you, like you said, want us
a ring. You've been great to us so and that
happens in sports, which I think is pretty cool. But
(09:11):
this is why Rob and I don't. I don't think
you're wrong, but you're wrong. What I mean is I
think he didn't want to leave, but I think what
he wants is it to be perfect. I want to
have this player, this coach, this thing, these guys, these
backup guys on the bench, this system.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They got to work hard like me. And that's just
not sports.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And so what happens is when he looks up and
it's not happening the way he wants, then he starts
hinting that stuff I want.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't want Adriane Griffin, who was performingly well as
a coach. I want Doc Rivers. We'll get into that
next hour. How that's been going and now okay, but
this isn't working. I want Damian Lillard. Well, they were
the conversation where they can't work together. Something's going on.
They got a little rift there. We don't know what's up.
So it seems like it keeps being something that he's
not happy about. And then he hints and he says things,
(09:58):
and he does, he insinuates things anything. He pulls his
hands back right, And that's the issue I have with it.
It's okay to want to leave. You've earned it because
everything you just said, he is a made man. He
has given it is all. He has been there so long.
He has brought joy to the city. It's okay. And
what happens rob you know this anybody watching on YouTube,
(10:19):
listen on the air. When you stay in a relationship
that is starting to get a little weird, you starting
to look out the door. He's looking at the door,
she's looking out the door. They looking at the door.
It gets weird. It's almost become to the point where
it becomes you can't it can't fix it. And I
think they've gotten to a p where their philosophy is
and their foundation changes. In a relationship, you can have
(10:39):
a little few things. That's a part of life, some
rough patches any relationship, but the foundation is typically the same, right,
your morals, your beliefs, your approach, and the Bucks are
showing our morals and our approach is different than what
you want. Our foundation has changed. You're still wanting to
play this season, you ain't playing again. So now he's
ready to get some courts involved in the NBA involved
(11:01):
because they saying you ain't playing again for him, that's
it for him.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That is offensive. I'm healthy, I'm playing for them.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
No, bru were trying to get these lottery chips up,
get a chance to win a great pick and help
build this thing. And I just think ultimately it's gonna
be where they're going to trade him somewhere, get the
best offer they can get. Apparently it was in Miami.
They gave him Tyler Hero, a couple of other players
and a bunch of picks. But they say, we can
get something bigger from the other eleven teams.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
That I'm telling you he's not going anywhere. He's gone
this summer. What do we want to bet on that?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
No, I want your hair to go all black. That's
what I get that black beard or black hair or both.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Can't do it, can't do.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
It what you want? No, I'll just just say no, no.
Fifty ten wings, all right, that's easy, bet ten wings
versus the hair. It's not the hair, so I want
I'm not dying my hair. I just think, Rob, there's
a point when we are just passing an organization.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
We want to blow this thing up.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I think that because what's the Let me ask
you a real question here, Giannas salone with a solid player,
because the reports are he's like, oh Miles Turner, No, bruh,
it's not your fault. You I've been hurt. You're good,
Doc Rivers yelling him you ain't been good. Kyle Kuzman, Nah,
I like you. My question is a similar type of
(12:19):
team with the healthy honest, are they doing anything realistically?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
No? But but but again, but.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He wants to win. I'm only saying that because I
get what you're saying. He's made man. He is my
obsession with winning, my obsession. But she literally said this,
but that's good. He should want to win. He ain't
winning with that under any circumstances. Like that's why you
should play, though when you play, you're not trying to
like play out your contract.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
You're a young guy, Like he's not old. I'm not
just here to play out your contract. It's the same
thing like Steph Curry, Like despite all the winning and
all that and everything that he's done, he ain't just
playing just to be playing, you know what I mean?
Like there's a degree you should always feel like like
you want to win.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
We got a chance.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
If I minute, we got a chance, but that I
don't feel like that will be honest, And I don't
feel like Milwaukee can get the free agents that they
would need to actually be able to compete with the Thunder,
the Spurs, the Pistons, the Denver Nuggets, the names.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But he should never but he should never feel that way,
is what I'm saying about him.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But we've seen him and he doesn't go anywhere in
the playoffs except for that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He got the ring. That's it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
He's comfortable. He's comfortable. Yeah, but you act like it's
not a big deal. Not to know what I'm saying.
I'm using his words. He's obsessed with winning. I want
to be like Kobe Bryant and Lebron and Steph Curry.
I'm telling you these are his own words, and they
have rustle rings. I want obsessed with winning and other
people they say it's not about talent, it's a posession.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But what he said just reason.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But the difference is he had a chance to say, yeah,
maybe my time has come and gone here in Milwaukee,
or not do the interview, or not.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Make that comment. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
He had every right to just say I'd rather not
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
And why doesn't keep talking hinting and other things? Why
was the New York mixser real thing last summer? Why
does he keep saying, and I'm using his words, I'm
a baddie. It does feel good to be wanted. Everybody
want me and be courting. I'm a baddie. He said everything.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
No, but but the only problem is if he really
wanted to, he could have easily, like you just said
that already when he signed that extension. So the idea
that he hasn't gone to them and say get me
out of here.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He's out tells me he ain't. This summer, they're gonna say,
we love you, brother, but it's time to break up
the relationship. Is just time to move on clean breakup
so we can be cool in the streets. I see
you out of that dinner, I can say how you been,
how's your parents?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Everything?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Nice to see you, and it ain't gonna happen, all right?
Eight seven seven. We got a trash talk trash talking number. Okay,
so yep, we do have trash talking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We got Mendoza doing something and I wonder if you
would do what he's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We'll talk about that. It is the acaple.
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Speaker 3 (15:47):
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That's what number to do, so right now, joined by
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would imagine his got a Michigan shirt hoodie might have
it still on from last night?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Bro?
Speaker 10 (16:07):
Henderson? To the Victors is the more appropriate theme song today?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, Alex, we do need Hell to the Victors? Alex, Alex,
can we get Helton?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
The victis hel to.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
The mercenaries, Hell to the guys who just joined the team.
Hell took the million dollars and we want a championship anyway,
You're gonna do it, do it the best.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Tell them Martin if you go, if this one we
do it do we gonna do it to the best.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
Somehow like disparaging idea that it's a good idea to
pay student as I'm not understanding.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, I'm just saying that's what it is to stay
on teams they don't want to be on.
Speaker 11 (16:44):
Because you know, Elliet could go North Carolina took him
out the doors.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
They did.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Michigan took him in with open arms and said, you
know what we can do here.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
You could be the most outstanding players. So because we
believe in you, you know what, we'll play a little
money on the side.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
Rob Parker says, that's the bad thing, America.
Speaker 11 (16:59):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I didn't say that. Did I say that? You didn't
what you're saying. I'm not against. I'm just saying it
just doesn't feel good, that's all. That's all. Well, it is.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
What it is college basketball feel good or football when
we know everybody's getting paid. So meaning if it wasn't Indiana,
can they feel good? Can you enjoy a game? It
feel good? Is what I'm saying. Because this is where
we are right now. Everybody get a check.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
Martin Clear, I enjoyed it just fine. And I have
enjoyed both.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Of the nil championship that Michigan has won thus far,
and I just finally I celebrate them perfectly, both the
undefeated season from Kim Harbory JJ McCarthy and the disaster he's.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
Been in the NFL. It's a story.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
Yeah, this one too, because this was the best team
that Rob is right was assembled. But guess what shows
every other team in the history of teams.
Speaker 11 (17:52):
They just change the rules of how.
Speaker 10 (17:53):
Teams are assembled and it benefits Michigan.
Speaker 11 (17:56):
You're bad?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Do it? Tell me that we were talking earlier.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Fab five obviously legendary those two years they went to
that championship game, Rob called a Milli Vanilly, which was crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I said, they're closer to Millie Vanilla than they are
to the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I said, they at least no addition, at least am.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I wrong.
Speaker 11 (18:15):
Hits as well. But your point is, will they go ahead?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Not so? I mean, what do you with me? He
understands what I'm saying. They're not the Beatles, go ahead, Martin.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
The Beatles would be the team that just won the
national championship, like this would be the Beatles because like,
quite honestly, you wouldn't talk.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
About no, no, no, not yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But I'm just talking about their what they what they've
liked their mark, like they because they changed so much
stuff culturally and college basketball. But they I say that
they have an empty bag or a bag with a
hole in it because they never won a Big Ten title.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
They never really punched their ticket, which would have made
them the bea.
Speaker 11 (18:54):
It is not an empty bag.
Speaker 10 (18:56):
But I would agree with you that the cultural significance
of the Fab is not like the dominance of the
back to back Yukon championships, right, because they actually won.
Going back to back final fours is different than winning
back to back championships, right, So like, really, what the
problem is Michigan basketball had been defined by getting to
(19:16):
this point and losing in some type of miraculous fashion
Luke Hantcock eighteen points in twenty thirteen in the game
that's eventually vacated, right.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
So like the Fab five was by far.
Speaker 10 (19:28):
And it also helps that Bill Simmons Pluit out that
twenty eleven documentary which was the best.
Speaker 11 (19:34):
Thirty for thirty thirty for thirties about.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
The Fab Five, which then made them much cooler to
my generation.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
Because when that documentary.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
Came out, Rob, you got to remember, Michigan football was
in the middle of the worst five year stretch of
its entire history by every single metric, and also coincides
was when I walked into school to day one. So
we were Michigan basketball fans because the football team stunk, right,
so when the Fab five came out and just like, yeah, hey,
that's something we could actually win. And so it's definitely
(20:04):
has a high level of nostalgia. But I was talking
to Roger yesterday, he was like, the Fab five will
be remembered more fondly.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
See, that's where we disagree.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I one thousand percent disagree with you because just because
there's a point where where you can be more memorable,
if you didn't get the thing done right you can
you could not have won the Grammy and Kendrick Lamar's
album is bigger than Maclamore's, like and to me, I
hate this conversation. The says that I don't want to
do this to the Michigan team that just won. But
(20:36):
there you're doing it like they won a national championship.
And no, I'm not just counting, but I'm more fond
of the team that laws. And no, we're saying the
team that will be more memorable is a team that
like you know, if you said, even though it was
back to back Yukon teams, if you ask a lot
of people, they probably couldn't name you a player.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
But it's not about that. It is to talk about
the term memorable.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I have to remember you as how you feel when
your team wins.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That that's what you go through.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
No memorable means I remember there's something that was ever
beside that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Because you're not a Yukon fan, trust me.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm not gonna I'm taking myself even out of it.
I'm going more broader. They know who that I'm taking
Yukon fans and Michigan fans out, and I'm saying broader.
If you asked just a college basketball fan, they're going
to be much more inclined to tell you the Fab
five are more memorable than those Yukon teams.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
I'm wrong, guy, absolute. First of all.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
First of all, I just think that that's how you
were watching college basketball a lot more at nineteen ninety
one and two, and you didn't have you know, your kids,
did a wife, and all the other things in debate
for the TV.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Because if you watch this team, this team was great.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
They were a great college basketball team. Like the Fab
Five had two guys that turned out to be pretty
good pros, and Jalen Chris Barber was really good pro
but Dwan Howard played so the guys that turned into
pros and those three and then Jimmy King and Ray Jackson.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
You know, is kind of up to coffee.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
But this isn't great college basketball team. That probably the
best row on the roster is the guy comes to
the six man off the bench and Trey McKinney. When
that guy comes next year and starts to dominate college basketball,
so like I'll be watching him next season, Like I
think the Yukon fans and I remember Donovan playing it
at Steph Castle in college.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But you're because you.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Are a college back, you are a sports nut. Would
you not agree?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So what I'm saying is the average person who to
your point, has kids or who works or who has
this or whatever, whatever, they will be, oh yeah, Yukon
was good. They you there's nobody who would remember the
Fab five and could tell you some team and tell
you this and tell you that. And so that's all
I'm saying. I'm not saying Yukon wasn't a dominant team.
And I believe this Michigan team that just won was incredible.
(22:47):
They were incredible. I mean defensively they were phenomenal. They
played great as a Union unit. But there is something
to not having that history together right where those teams
Bobby Hurley, Christian Lader, Grant Hill getting rush by UNLV,
going through it, Coach K like dang Man, we were
almost there and you see them bounce back, and you
see the Rashid Wallace is and the Jerry Stackhouse and
(23:08):
these teams. My point is having that continuity and familiarity
and going through for two three four years, I think
that bolded well for teams historically.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Delman, that is such a load of holy and applesauce.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
And I'm gonna tell you why right now. Tell me
what you just sat there, You sat there and listed off.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
You didn't get to a player until you had listed
off Coach K and all these other things. You finally
got to Raceive Wilet's that feelings on a five six
other names. College basketball has always been primarily for good
and for bad or for whatever reason. It's about the
guys who are on the sideline.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
It's about the coaches.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Coach coaches and referees. Are unfortunately we college basketball because
it's over coached and over officiated.
Speaker 10 (23:51):
So to my point, and Dusty May right now is
on a freaking heater that you haven't seen. There's been
two coaches that have been to Final Fours in the
last four years. It's dust Team May and Daniel Hurley.
Dusty May just did it in an fau in a
nine seed, and then came to Michigan and in two
years as one more it's been the only team to
go to the championship after being so bad.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
And the reason why Dusty.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
May is going to be the guy who transcends kind
of what this thing you're talking about is because the
last time Michigan basketball was bad, a fab five person
was coaching the team. And I'm not saying that any
reason why that Jwan Howard.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
Can't come back. I'm not saying he shouldn't.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
Be celebrated as a member of that team, but I'm
saying that there they blew him off of that rose
ever so slightly that will always be there because Dusty
May right now has got a phoenix rose from the Ashes.
But we know why the Ashes were there all right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
A whole lot of money and I ain't mad at
it because they got one.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm excited. You're excited. Appreciate you, Martin, thank you, appreciate it.
We got trash talking coming. Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
All right, Martin Whites, go ahead and get him. Follow
Martin White's on next.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
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Speaker 8 (25:00):
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Speaker 3 (25:16):
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Speaker 2 (25:45):
Get to it. Time for trash talk and Tuesday.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Hey, it's trash talking Tuesday on the odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Don't you talk about me?
Speaker 9 (25:57):
It's trash fucking Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know whether to smile. Let's you kick a field,
go man? All right, let's get it started. Rob, who
we got? All right, let's kick it off with Doc.
What's up? Doc? In Texas? You're on the octople Fox
Sports Radio. Who you're trashing?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Doc?
Speaker 12 (26:19):
I'm trashing the Dallas Avericks there. And the stupidity of
all the sports people in this freaking town. They sell
it to the Agolsons and they don't even realize, you know,
they're trying to trash. They need a team in Vegas, right,
I mean selling a team, and then they want to
know why they got rid of Don Chick and everything else,
(26:41):
and everything's going. I mean, there's some of the stupidest
people I've ever seen on sports talk radio here, with
the exception because it's all Jerry Land or this idiot
other station called I call them the Stub. But anyway,
in California, but I had to come back from my
grand daughter's wedding. I grew up here. Jerry Jones ruined
(27:03):
my entire childhood. I'm in my seventies. Wow, so he
ruined my entire childhood and everything else with all this
other you know, I'm all happy with everything in the
little you know. I went to college in California, and
I just tell you it sucks and thank.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
You, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We appreciate it. Joyed the wedding too. Man, shout out
to your granddaughter.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
All right, how about Dwight in Riverside, California.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You're on the on couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up Dwight?
Will you trashing Dwight?
Speaker 13 (27:36):
How you guys doing. I love your guys the show,
been risking it for three years.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Thank you, appreciate you.
Speaker 13 (27:41):
I'm trusting anybody who won't give Will Howard a chance.
This dude won the national championship. He helped Jeremiah Smith
break all the Ohio state wide receiver records. And they're
talking like this dude came.
Speaker 11 (27:53):
And throw the ball.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
Can you imagine if Shador Sanders and made it to
a college football playoff, they would be all over his
Chador standards.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Nice job, you ain't wrong, right, nice John Row Do
I appreciate it, man?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Seven ninety nine on Fox. How about MJ in New Orleans,
jordiad couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
We know you're trashing Lebron MJ.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I'm trashing Steven Anthony Smith.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh, I refer to.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Him mass screaming a I've missed up to it in
the first take of fake debates and sports propaganda DEVI
into a political.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
Reader with the podcast you can with me.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
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Speaker 11 (28:52):
Sides, but.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Research takes get you the second annual call. Oh my,
thank you guys.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
My goodness, gracious, I heard your stuff. Put the camera
on me. I lo MJ be listening to the couple.
Rod Parker's my friend. But I'm coming for you, MJ.
I'm coming for you. I can hear them already.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
There you go. Your boy has Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Smith has come for more people in the last six
months than anybody else in their entire life.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
My gosh, Steve.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Bars he was just on, he was just on, on
the smoke, having a time in his life. Him, Matt Barnes,
Stephen Jackson. That's what they that's what.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
These shows are and all that stuff. It's crazy. But
Steve Noaw hasn't handle himself. I know him for a
long time. He's not gonna let people trample over him.
I know he He's gonna push back and sold him
and he doesn't mind. He doesn't mind, you know, getting
into that, getting dirty with other No. I think it's
I think he loves it, so I mean, I don't
think that that's what his number one thing is, Like
he wants to do that, but if it happened year ago,
(30:03):
believe I don't think that he's going after people like that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think he's I agree with that, I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't think that that's his Most of it is
is a reaction to other people saying stuff about it.
But like he knows said something about Lebron because it
was on topic about what he said about Memphis. He
didn't go after Lebron for no reason. These are people
who are looking at what he said and I don't
I'm not being an apologist for him. What he's doing
(30:27):
is he's doing his job of analysis of the analysis
of what's out there. And then people coming and said
they don't like what he said about somebody, and then
that's when he goes after people. That's that's what you
got to give me an example where he just track.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't think he wakes somebody goes no, no, no, I
strongly agree with that. I've said for years. I don't
think he has like hot takes. I don't think he's
like I'm going out here to cause chaos and all that.
I just think because he has one of the louder
microphones in our business that obviously people see in here
and listen to what he does. But no, I'm just
laughing at your point when your opinionated people are gonna
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have opinions about your opinions, and he makes sure.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know, Cam Newton, my brother. I was sitting next
to you, Matt Barnes. You don't want to make it
any of me. I mean, I'm dying now. He's over here, like.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Governor Newsom, you don't want to make it any President Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You know, I will say this.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm gonna I'm gonna just say one thing, the Cam
stuff like if I was, if I were him, I'll
be bothered because there was stuff that was said that
where you know, and what I've always said, you gotta
have pushback. You can't let somebody come on and just
(31:42):
say whatever they want without making them explain themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
What is this based on.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I don't it's not about you have to agree with
him or you can't let the guy talk because you
invited him all you want to have a conversation, but
you just can't say whatever you want to go. Well,
I had him morning and that's what he was saying.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Really, that's not to get to the root of it.
Why do you believe that. What's the evidence to that?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Really?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
What would he say to that exactly? And that's all
you're talking about. And I think that's all. He understands
what the talk show game is and having people as
a guest.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But but the other Stuffyvin Washington, you don't want to
make an enemy and me
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Speaker 2 (01:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
Michigan Homer Martin White, I'm sorry, Fox Sports Radio Weekend
host and Michigan alum.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He's a Michigan alum and a USC alum. He's both.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I mean, you know, let's see your shirt turn around.
You got any naming your colleges on today.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Turn around.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
See if you say somebody I like that, that's cool.
I don't think i've ever seen the black one. Yeah,
that's cool. You know how big? Is the closet too
too much? Let me get it out there.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I already know because because I just keep you know what,
There's two things that I do a lot. I love
the pullovers and stuff like this, so I do. I'm
always looking for the best one, and then eventually I'll
get rid of something that I tried and maybe that
I don't like them as much. And sweatpants. I'm always
looking for the perfect pair of sweatpants. So I'll see
them buy him, and I'm gonna stop myself because I'm like,
(02:08):
I already got three pair of black sweatpants. I don't
need it anymore. But I look at them and I'm like, well,
I could get these tailored. They're real soft, and I'll
think about it, you know what I mean, And then
if I like them, then another pair has to go,
you know, So I'm not keeping three.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Listen, I could never wear jeans again and be okay.
I mean, obviously going out I have to, but like
going out like a night out, but I could never
wear jeans again, and be okay, I'm with you on that.
I am in my full Sopranos velure suit era all
the time because you know what it is too, and
you'll you'll appreciate it. I have to wear suits every day, no,
(02:41):
so like I just to just throw on something that's chill,
like a like a Nike sweatsuit or something Jordan sweat that.
If I could be an abbit, that's all I would do.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We have YouTube evidence.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
If you I got to come in with the hat
that matched, the jacket that matched, the shoes that match
the pants. You ain't not wearing not a single sweatsuit, Rob,
did he wears what's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
On the show?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You see me wear sweatsuits once or twice, not that often.
You just you got somewhere, all right, what do you got, Rob?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I know it's up from here on out. If you
got on the sweatsuits, sponsor you boy, send.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Me the sweat You're trying to take over Rich Davis's
rocause Riche David's worse than sweatpats.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You could be him.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But you know he does what then he but then
again he does jean and T shirt. Now Covino is
gonna give you a nice jacket.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And some jeans. He really is. He is definitely gonna
give you a night now. He might not see you.
What are you wearing? You say? A nice jacket? Hey?
Thanks Rob. That boy can't see nothing. He really can't.
Kind of work on that, all right.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I got some YouTube beings weighing in on some of
these topics. Here speaking of Kelvin, this is a great one.
D Dubb says Calvin over here talking about Michigan in
the Fab five, and he got an LA Dodger shirt.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I was shaking my head. What do you want me
to do? I live in LA. I can't have a
baseball team.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Tigers.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Huh see that's terrible. Dodgers up to nothing. By the way,
he'll be big man when I'm sitting on the desk.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Like a.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Get them, says Rob. Don't be hating on the Fab five.
You might get pimp slappy. He returned back to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I go to Detroit all the time. I have a
house there. I have a barber shop that's been open
for twenty four years. When you land, is it they
still love me.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
They love you because I've spent twenty years there and
I represent the city always. I've never acted like that's true.
You know, Detroit is like not a part of my
life big time. I got married there, I bought a
house there, my whole life.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Got a barbershop there, starter house there, still got one.
Used to have them backyard parties. We can't talk about
legendary they called rob the black helf. We do have,
we do have pictures. Did they fax any information you
know from there?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
No facts?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Narron says, l O L changing the culture. I didn't
know they hung banners for changing culture.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
He says, right up there, culture changer change.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I guess what.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
They took that one down too, closet somewhere, Martin, they
had to take it down, ed Martin.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I don't do that. Don't do that.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
I don't want to know ed MUD's name, right, Just
think about that. You know ed MUD's name with the
fab file. That's how you know you spent time in Michigan.
You know Ed Martin's name. All right, rob Gie too.
Another thing we got to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Speaking of basketball, but this version is the NBA, the
chaos that is the Bucks.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, speaking of changing culture, Yannis sounds like he want
a culture shift in Milwaukee. If he's gonna stay now, Giannis,
the will he or won't he?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Request?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The trade has taken yet another turn on the same
day that ESPN is a full expose, and you know
what's going on in Milwaukee. How unsatisfied he is with
the front office, how Doc Rivers is over here saying
blasphem and stuff at team meetings. Coincidentally, we'll get into
that later. Yannis did an exclusive interview with the Milwaukee
(06:00):
Journal Sentinel.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I like him already, give the hometown good on him,
you know what I mean? Like seriously, that's who he
should be given an exclusive story to, not to a
national outlet and Nickel forgetting the exclusive.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes, put the name a local paper, right, Yes, I
like that.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And during the conversation, Laurie asked Giannis if he saw
a path for Hi himself to come back and stay
on Milwaukee. To Giannis's credit, answered quickly without hesitation, one
hundred percent yes, yes, And he goes on and says later,
I want to be here, I want to be with
my team. I want to win here again. This is
(06:40):
my home. I've spent more years here than I did
in Greece. It is my home. It's I want to
help the community with my wife and my brothers. As
long as it's great organized basketball and the team's willing
to play selfless basketball, chase the same goal as bigger
than themselves, I will be here.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And I've told you old time and time again, he
ain't going nowhere. I've said this to you because he's
a different guy. And if he really wanted out of there,
and and and I know people have come up with
I remember, what was it the year that they got
swept by Miami and Miami wound up going to the
championship that year? What was that in the bubble too?
Was that in the that was in the bubble? Right,
(07:16):
because there was a second time they went right twenty two, okay,
and everybody that was when he everybody said that you
should go to Miami. You remember that, like go to
Miami and blah blah blah blah blah, and don't stay
in Milwaukee. He signed an extension. You're dumb, you're crazy, whatever,
(07:36):
you'll never win. Everybody pointed a finger, you'll never win
in Milwaukee, and guess what, he wound up winning a championship.
He's a made man. He's comfortable, he's not I don't
I don't see him as trying to be a ring chaser.
He's never gonna be the greatest, considered the greatest of all,
you know what I mean, none of that's on the
(07:56):
table for him. So and they did, They've done everything
that he's they asked them. They went and got Damian
Lillard and gave up everything.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
That they could right to bring him in.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
They did it, and they got Drew Holliday for him,
Like they've gone out and said, hey, what do you need?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What are we trying to do here?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And even when that conversation about going to the Knicks
and all that, I just I don't feel that with him.
I really believe, even though you know, maybe the outside
people and maybe some tweets that people read into, if
he really didn't want to be there, it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Just take two seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because if you're the front office and you're the general
manager ownership and he says, I don't want to be
here anymore, that dude won you a championship. He's amazed,
Like even the people there got to respect that. And
you don't want to do that to somebody who doesn't
really want to beat him anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What they said it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Sean's reported that they had some meeting with gentlemen agreement
a couple of years back where they basically said, you know,
look if there's a point. When they did his extension
until twenty three, I believe it was, they said, hey,
look when you if it gets to the point where
you know, let us know, we'll just if he will
do what's best for you, like you said, want us
a ring. You've been great to us so and that
happens in sports, which I think is pretty cool. But
(09:11):
this is why Rob and I don't. I don't think
you're wrong, but you're wrong. What I mean is I
think he didn't want to leave, but I think what
he wants is it to be perfect. I want to
have this player, this coach, this thing, these guys, these
backup guys on the bench, this system.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They got to work hard like me. And that's just
not sports.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And so what happens is when he looks up and
it's not happening the way he wants, then he starts
hinting that stuff I want.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't want Adriane Griffin, who was performingly well as
a coach. I want Doc Rivers. We'll get into that
next hour. How that's been going and now okay, but
this isn't working. I want Damian Lillard. Well, they were
the conversation where they can't work together. Something's going on.
They got a little rift there. We don't know what's up.
So it seems like it keeps being something that he's
not happy about. And then he hints and he says things,
(09:58):
and he does, he insinuates things anything. He pulls his
hands back right, And that's the issue I have with it.
It's okay to want to leave. You've earned it because
everything you just said, he is a made man. He
has given it is all. He has been there so long.
He has brought joy to the city. It's okay. And
what happens rob you know this anybody watching on YouTube,
(10:19):
listen on the air. When you stay in a relationship
that is starting to get a little weird, you starting
to look out the door. He's looking at the door,
she's looking out the door. They looking at the door.
It gets weird. It's almost become to the point where
it becomes you can't it can't fix it. And I
think they've gotten to a p where their philosophy is
and their foundation changes. In a relationship, you can have
(10:39):
a little few things. That's a part of life, some
rough patches any relationship, but the foundation is typically the same, right,
your morals, your beliefs, your approach, and the Bucks are
showing our morals and our approach is different than what
you want. Our foundation has changed. You're still wanting to
play this season, you ain't playing again. So now he's
ready to get some courts involved in the NBA involved
(11:01):
because they saying you ain't playing again for him, that's
it for him.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That is offensive. I'm healthy, I'm playing for them.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
No, bru were trying to get these lottery chips up,
get a chance to win a great pick and help
build this thing. And I just think ultimately it's gonna
be where they're going to trade him somewhere, get the
best offer they can get. Apparently it was in Miami.
They gave him Tyler Hero, a couple of other players
and a bunch of picks. But they say, we can
get something bigger from the other eleven teams.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
That I'm telling you he's not going anywhere. He's gone
this summer. What do we want to bet on that?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
No, I want your hair to go all black. That's
what I get that black beard or black hair or both.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Can't do it, can't do.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
It what you want? No, I'll just just say no, no.
Fifty ten wings, all right, that's easy, bet ten wings
versus the hair. It's not the hair, so I want
I'm not dying my hair. I just think, Rob, there's
a point when we are just passing an organization.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
We want to blow this thing up.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But I think that because what's the Let me ask
you a real question here, Giannas salone with a solid player,
because the reports are he's like, oh Miles Turner, No, bruh,
it's not your fault. You I've been hurt. You're good,
Doc Rivers yelling him you ain't been good. Kyle Kuzman, Nah,
I like you. My question is a similar type of
(12:19):
team with the healthy honest, are they doing anything realistically?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
No? But but but again, but.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He wants to win. I'm only saying that because I
get what you're saying. He's made man. He is my
obsession with winning, my obsession. But she literally said this,
but that's good. He should want to win. He ain't
winning with that under any circumstances. Like that's why you
should play, though when you play, you're not trying to
like play out your contract.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
You're a young guy, Like he's not old. I'm not
just here to play out your contract. It's the same
thing like Steph Curry, Like despite all the winning and
all that and everything that he's done, he ain't just
playing just to be playing, you know what I mean?
Like there's a degree you should always feel like like
you want to win.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
We got a chance.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
If I minute, we got a chance, but that I
don't feel like that will be honest, And I don't
feel like Milwaukee can get the free agents that they
would need to actually be able to compete with the Thunder,
the Spurs, the Pistons, the Denver Nuggets, the names.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But he should never but he should never feel that way,
is what I'm saying about him.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But we've seen him and he doesn't go anywhere in
the playoffs except for that.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
He got the ring. That's it.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
He's comfortable. He's comfortable. Yeah, but you act like it's
not a big deal. Not to know what I'm saying.
I'm using his words. He's obsessed with winning. I want
to be like Kobe Bryant and Lebron and Steph Curry.
I'm telling you these are his own words, and they
have rustle rings. I want obsessed with winning and other
people they say it's not about talent, it's a posession.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
But what he said just reason.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
But the difference is he had a chance to say, yeah,
maybe my time has come and gone here in Milwaukee,
or not do the interview, or not.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Make that comment. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
He had every right to just say I'd rather not
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
And why doesn't keep talking hinting and other things? Why
was the New York mixser real thing last summer? Why
does he keep saying, and I'm using his words, I'm
a baddie. It does feel good to be wanted. Everybody
want me and be courting. I'm a baddie. He said everything.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
No, but but the only problem is if he really
wanted to, he could have easily, like you just said
that already when he signed that extension. So the idea
that he hasn't gone to them and say get me
out of here.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He's out tells me he ain't. This summer, they're gonna say,
we love you, brother, but it's time to break up
the relationship. Is just time to move on clean breakup
so we can be cool in the streets. I see
you out of that dinner, I can say how you been,
how's your parents?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Everything?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Nice to see you, and it ain't gonna happen, all right?
Eight seven seven. We got a trash talk trash talking number. Okay,
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Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
We got Mendoza doing something and I wonder if you
would do what he's gonna do.
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We'll talk about that. It is the acaple.
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It's the Odd Couple. Robin Kelvin on a trash Talking Tuesday.
Trash Talking coming up.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
If you want to jump in now eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
That's what number to do, so right now, joined by
Martin Wise. Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts Michigan Alum. I
would imagine his got a Michigan shirt hoodie might have
it still on from last night?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Bro?
Speaker 10 (16:07):
Henderson? To the Victors is the more appropriate theme song today?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, Alex, we do need Hell to the Victors? Alex, Alex,
can we get Helton?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
The victis hel to.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
The mercenaries, Hell to the guys who just joined the team.
Hell took the million dollars and we want a championship anyway,
You're gonna do it, do it the best.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Tell them Martin if you go, if this one we
do it do we gonna do it to the best.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
Somehow like disparaging idea that it's a good idea to
pay student as I'm not understanding.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No, I'm just saying that's what it is to stay
on teams they don't want to be on.
Speaker 11 (16:44):
Because you know, Elliet could go North Carolina took him
out the doors.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
They did.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Michigan took him in with open arms and said, you
know what we can do here.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
You could be the most outstanding players. So because we
believe in you, you know what, we'll play a little
money on the side.
Speaker 10 (16:57):
Rob Parker says, that's the bad thing, America.
Speaker 11 (16:59):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I didn't say that. Did I say that? You didn't
what you're saying. I'm not against. I'm just saying it
just doesn't feel good, that's all. That's all. Well, it is.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
What it is college basketball feel good or football when
we know everybody's getting paid. So meaning if it wasn't Indiana,
can they feel good? Can you enjoy a game? It
feel good? Is what I'm saying. Because this is where
we are right now. Everybody get a check.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
Martin Clear, I enjoyed it just fine. And I have
enjoyed both.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Of the nil championship that Michigan has won thus far,
and I just finally I celebrate them perfectly, both the
undefeated season from Kim Harbory JJ McCarthy and the disaster he's.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
Been in the NFL. It's a story.
Speaker 10 (17:43):
Yeah, this one too, because this was the best team
that Rob is right was assembled. But guess what shows
every other team in the history of teams.
Speaker 11 (17:52):
They just change the rules of how.
Speaker 10 (17:53):
Teams are assembled and it benefits Michigan.
Speaker 11 (17:56):
You're bad?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Do it? Tell me that we were talking earlier.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Fab five obviously legendary those two years they went to
that championship game, Rob called a Milli Vanilly, which was crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I said, they're closer to Millie Vanilla than they are
to the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I said, they at least no addition, at least am.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I wrong.
Speaker 11 (18:15):
Hits as well. But your point is, will they go ahead?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Not so? I mean, what do you with me? He
understands what I'm saying. They're not the Beatles, go ahead, Martin.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
The Beatles would be the team that just won the
national championship, like this would be the Beatles because like,
quite honestly, you wouldn't talk.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
About no, no, no, not yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But I'm just talking about their what they what they've
liked their mark, like they because they changed so much
stuff culturally and college basketball. But they I say that
they have an empty bag or a bag with a
hole in it because they never won a Big Ten title.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
They never really punched their ticket, which would have made
them the bea.
Speaker 11 (18:54):
It is not an empty bag.
Speaker 10 (18:56):
But I would agree with you that the cultural significance
of the Fab is not like the dominance of the
back to back Yukon championships, right, because they actually won.
Going back to back final fours is different than winning
back to back championships, right, So like, really, what the
problem is Michigan basketball had been defined by getting to
(19:16):
this point and losing in some type of miraculous fashion
Luke Hantcock eighteen points in twenty thirteen in the game
that's eventually vacated, right.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
So like the Fab five was by far.
Speaker 10 (19:28):
And it also helps that Bill Simmons Pluit out that
twenty eleven documentary which was the best.
Speaker 11 (19:34):
Thirty for thirty thirty for thirties about.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
The Fab Five, which then made them much cooler to
my generation.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
Because when that documentary.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
Came out, Rob, you got to remember, Michigan football was
in the middle of the worst five year stretch of
its entire history by every single metric, and also coincides
was when I walked into school to day one. So
we were Michigan basketball fans because the football team stunk, right,
so when the Fab five came out and just like, yeah, hey,
that's something we could actually win. And so it's definitely
(20:04):
has a high level of nostalgia. But I was talking
to Roger yesterday, he was like, the Fab five will
be remembered more fondly.
Speaker 11 (20:12):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
See, that's where we disagree.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I one thousand percent disagree with you because just because
there's a point where where you can be more memorable,
if you didn't get the thing done right you can
you could not have won the Grammy and Kendrick Lamar's
album is bigger than Maclamore's, like and to me, I
hate this conversation. The says that I don't want to
do this to the Michigan team that just won. But
(20:36):
there you're doing it like they won a national championship.
And no, I'm not just counting, but I'm more fond
of the team that laws. And no, we're saying the
team that will be more memorable is a team that
like you know, if you said, even though it was
back to back Yukon teams, if you ask a lot
of people, they probably couldn't name you a player.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
But it's not about that. It is to talk about
the term memorable.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I have to remember you as how you feel when
your team wins.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That that's what you go through.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
No memorable means I remember there's something that was ever
beside that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Because you're not a Yukon fan, trust me.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm not gonna I'm taking myself even out of it.
I'm going more broader. They know who that I'm taking
Yukon fans and Michigan fans out, and I'm saying broader.
If you asked just a college basketball fan, they're going
to be much more inclined to tell you the Fab
five are more memorable than those Yukon teams.
Speaker 11 (21:28):
I'm wrong, guy, absolute. First of all.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
First of all, I just think that that's how you
were watching college basketball a lot more at nineteen ninety
one and two, and you didn't have you know, your kids,
did a wife, and all the other things in debate
for the TV.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Because if you watch this team, this team was great.
Speaker 10 (21:45):
They were a great college basketball team. Like the Fab
Five had two guys that turned out to be pretty
good pros, and Jalen Chris Barber was really good pro
but Dwan Howard played so the guys that turned into
pros and those three and then Jimmy King and Ray Jackson.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
You know, is kind of up to coffee.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
But this isn't great college basketball team. That probably the
best row on the roster is the guy comes to
the six man off the bench and Trey McKinney. When
that guy comes next year and starts to dominate college basketball,
so like I'll be watching him next season, Like I
think the Yukon fans and I remember Donovan playing it
at Steph Castle in college.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But you're because you.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Are a college back, you are a sports nut. Would
you not agree?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So what I'm saying is the average person who to
your point, has kids or who works or who has
this or whatever, whatever, they will be, oh yeah, Yukon
was good. They you there's nobody who would remember the
Fab five and could tell you some team and tell
you this and tell you that. And so that's all
I'm saying. I'm not saying Yukon wasn't a dominant team.
And I believe this Michigan team that just won was incredible.
(22:47):
They were incredible. I mean defensively they were phenomenal. They
played great as a Union unit. But there is something
to not having that history together right where those teams
Bobby Hurley, Christian Lader, Grant Hill getting rush by UNLV,
going through it, Coach K like dang Man, we were
almost there and you see them bounce back, and you
see the Rashid Wallace is and the Jerry Stackhouse and
(23:08):
these teams. My point is having that continuity and familiarity
and going through for two three four years, I think
that bolded well for teams historically.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
Delman, that is such a load of holy and applesauce.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
And I'm gonna tell you why right now. Tell me
what you just sat there, You sat there and listed off.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
You didn't get to a player until you had listed
off Coach K and all these other things. You finally
got to Raceive Wilet's that feelings on a five six
other names. College basketball has always been primarily for good
and for bad or for whatever reason. It's about the
guys who are on the sideline.
Speaker 11 (23:43):
It's about the coaches.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Coach coaches and referees. Are unfortunately we college basketball because
it's over coached and over officiated.
Speaker 10 (23:51):
So to my point, and Dusty May right now is
on a freaking heater that you haven't seen. There's been
two coaches that have been to Final Fours in the
last four years. It's dust Team May and Daniel Hurley.
Dusty May just did it in an fau in a
nine seed, and then came to Michigan and in two
years as one more it's been the only team to
go to the championship after being so bad.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
And the reason why Dusty.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
May is going to be the guy who transcends kind
of what this thing you're talking about is because the
last time Michigan basketball was bad, a fab five person
was coaching the team. And I'm not saying that any
reason why that Jwan Howard.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
Can't come back. I'm not saying he shouldn't.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
Be celebrated as a member of that team, but I'm
saying that there they blew him off of that rose
ever so slightly that will always be there because Dusty
May right now has got a phoenix rose from the Ashes.
But we know why the Ashes were there all right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
A whole lot of money and I ain't mad at
it because they got one.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I'm excited. You're excited. Appreciate you, Martin, thank you, appreciate it.
We got trash talking coming. Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
All right, Martin Whites, go ahead and get him. Follow
Martin White's on next.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
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out on Fox anything anybody whatever. You want to trasht
your chance to do so. Hit a sub a stiaka
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Speaker 8 (25:00):
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Speaker 3 (25:16):
All right, Fox Sports Radio, shout out to Martin weis
just joined us. We'll get that up on the pot.
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Get to it. Time for trash talk and Tuesday.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Hey, it's trash talking Tuesday on the odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Don't you talk about me?
Speaker 9 (25:57):
It's trash fucking Tuesdays.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know whether to smile. Let's you kick a field,
go man? All right, let's get it started. Rob, who
we got? All right, let's kick it off with Doc.
What's up? Doc? In Texas? You're on the octople Fox
Sports Radio. Who you're trashing?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Doc?
Speaker 12 (26:19):
I'm trashing the Dallas Avericks there. And the stupidity of
all the sports people in this freaking town. They sell
it to the Agolsons and they don't even realize, you know,
they're trying to trash. They need a team in Vegas, right,
I mean selling a team, and then they want to
know why they got rid of Don Chick and everything else,
(26:41):
and everything's going. I mean, there's some of the stupidest
people I've ever seen on sports talk radio here, with
the exception because it's all Jerry Land or this idiot
other station called I call them the Stub. But anyway,
in California, but I had to come back from my
grand daughter's wedding. I grew up here. Jerry Jones ruined
(27:03):
my entire childhood. I'm in my seventies. Wow, so he
ruined my entire childhood and everything else with all this
other you know, I'm all happy with everything in the
little you know. I went to college in California, and
I just tell you it sucks and thank.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
You, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We appreciate it. Joyed the wedding too. Man, shout out
to your granddaughter.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
All right, how about Dwight in Riverside, California.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
You're on the on couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up Dwight?
Will you trashing Dwight?
Speaker 13 (27:36):
How you guys doing. I love your guys the show,
been risking it for three years.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Thank you, appreciate you.
Speaker 13 (27:41):
I'm trusting anybody who won't give Will Howard a chance.
This dude won the national championship. He helped Jeremiah Smith
break all the Ohio state wide receiver records. And they're
talking like this dude came.
Speaker 11 (27:53):
And throw the ball.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
Can you imagine if Shador Sanders and made it to
a college football playoff, they would be all over his
Chador standards.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Nice job, you ain't wrong, right, nice John Row Do
I appreciate it, man?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Seven ninety nine on Fox. How about MJ in New Orleans,
jordiad couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
We know you're trashing Lebron MJ.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I'm trashing Steven Anthony Smith.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh, I refer to.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Him mass screaming a I've missed up to it in
the first take of fake debates and sports propaganda DEVI
into a political.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
Reader with the podcast you can with me.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Opinionated sports takes don't believe you. You need more people.
Welcome channels from Faith News Network playing both.
Speaker 11 (28:52):
Sides, but.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Research takes get you the second annual call. Oh my,
thank you guys.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
My goodness, gracious, I heard your stuff. Put the camera
on me. I lo MJ be listening to the couple.
Rod Parker's my friend. But I'm coming for you, MJ.
I'm coming for you. I can hear them already.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
There you go. Your boy has Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Smith has come for more people in the last six
months than anybody else in their entire life.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
My gosh, Steve.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Bars he was just on, he was just on, on
the smoke, having a time in his life. Him, Matt Barnes,
Stephen Jackson. That's what they that's what.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
These shows are and all that stuff. It's crazy. But
Steve Noaw hasn't handle himself. I know him for a
long time. He's not gonna let people trample over him.
I know he He's gonna push back and sold him
and he doesn't mind. He doesn't mind, you know, getting
into that, getting dirty with other No. I think it's
I think he loves it, so I mean, I don't
think that that's what his number one thing is, Like
he wants to do that, but if it happened year ago,
(30:03):
believe I don't think that he's going after people like that.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think he's I agree with that, I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't think that that's his Most of it is
is a reaction to other people saying stuff about it.
But like he knows said something about Lebron because it
was on topic about what he said about Memphis. He
didn't go after Lebron for no reason. These are people
who are looking at what he said and I don't
I'm not being an apologist for him. What he's doing
(30:27):
is he's doing his job of analysis of the analysis
of what's out there. And then people coming and said
they don't like what he said about somebody, and then
that's when he goes after people. That's that's what you
got to give me an example where he just track.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't think he wakes somebody goes no, no, no, I
strongly agree with that. I've said for years. I don't
think he has like hot takes. I don't think he's
like I'm going out here to cause chaos and all that.
I just think because he has one of the louder
microphones in our business that obviously people see in here
and listen to what he does. But no, I'm just
laughing at your point when your opinionated people are gonna
(31:02):
have opinions about your opinions, and he makes sure.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
You know, Cam Newton, my brother. I was sitting next
to you, Matt Barnes. You don't want to make it
any of me. I mean, I'm dying now. He's over here, like.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Governor Newsom, you don't want to make it any President Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
You know, I will say this.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm gonna I'm gonna just say one thing, the Cam
stuff like if I was, if I were him, I'll
be bothered because there was stuff that was said that
where you know, and what I've always said, you gotta
have pushback. You can't let somebody come on and just
(31:42):
say whatever they want without making them explain themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
What is this based on.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I don't it's not about you have to agree with
him or you can't let the guy talk because you
invited him all you want to have a conversation, but
you just can't say whatever you want to go. Well,
I had him morning and that's what he was saying.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Really, that's not to get to the root of it.
Why do you believe that. What's the evidence to that?
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Really?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
What would he say to that exactly? And that's all
you're talking about. And I think that's all. He understands
what the talk show game is and having people as
a guest.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
But but the other Stuffyvin Washington, you don't want to
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