May 16, 2019 • 32 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard! Chris and Rob debate whether or not LeBron James would be getting the same kind of pass in the media as guys like Kawhi Leonard, Steph Curry and Damian Lillard if he had performance lapses in the playoffs like they have during this postseason, if Steph Curry really is the G.M.O.A.T (The Greatest Mirage of All-Time), and if it's fair to say that Tiger Woods - despite not being all the way 'back' - is back enough to catch Jack Nicklaus' major record.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. As I said,
I have been enjoying these playoffs immensely. I think that
you are enjoying them because the ratings are up to
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Spiono Lebron. It's been good, right, The ratings are up
twenty percent in the second round over last year, So
it's been great. And as I watch these matchups, and
as I enjoy other players getting the spotlight that would
have been taken up by Lebron, James Kawhi Leonard now
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getting a ton of attention, and bad, well mostly good,
but a little good, a little bad, Damian Lillard, CJ
McCollum getting attention, James Harden of course, Nicola Yokis. We
could go on and on, but as I'm watching this,
a couple of things came to my mind, these guys
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as great as they're playing, and Kawhi has been great,
and Durant was great before he got hurt, I don't
see them dominating games like Lebron James did. And I
also feel like they aren't getting nearly the amount of
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negative scrutiny that Lebron James did. I don't think they
ever will. Lebron's on a different plateau. Okay, then let's
then let's understand it, because lad if Lebron James did
what Kawhi Leonard did last night, Kawhi Leonard scores twenty
nine points in the first three quarters, they lead by
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seven going into the fourth quarter, and he ends up
giving them two points in a loss in the fourth quarter.
Oh for three from the floor just essentially disappears. If
Lebron James does that, he is getting destroyed. Now. Maybe
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some people are saying, oh, yeah, Kawhi didn't do it
in the fourth, but he has not gotten an iota
a fraction of the negative publicity or criticism that Lebron
James would have gotten had he done something that. I
just think it's apples and oranges. He as good as
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Kawhi is, and what he did with the you know,
to wor he's in his smack dab in the middle
of his prime, Lebron. But Lebron James was of child prodigy.
His expectations are way higher than the guy who went
to San Diego State. Who who plays? Yea even now,
even now? Yea, even now? Who who? Who right now
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is ranked higher as a player? Yeah? Even now? But
it's not. But it's not just that you're right, Okay,
Lebron didn't make the playoff, didn't play well, But the
expectations of a guy called who calls himself the King
and the Chosen, No, but I know. But I'm just saying,
you can't look at the two the same and think
that people are gonna respond to Kauai the same way
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as they do to Lebron. Lebron is on a different page.
He's different from everybody else. I'm just keeping it real.
You're never gonna He's never gonna get that. Now. If
he wins, I don't know. If Kawhi goes to five
championships in the row and stinks up the joint, then
maybe we're not talking about Lebron anymore. We're all talking
about Kauai. But until further notice, I mean he's still
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climbing that ladder. Lebron's already at the top of the building.
That it's just about if Lebron James sits out two
games and his team looks as good or arguably better,
if a team of his is thirty one in four
without him, he's getting crushed. Yeah, I just a lot
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more than Kevin Durant, and I get a little bit
a little bit of what you're saying about Kauai. Obviously
historically he's not on Lebron's level, but right now, yeah,
but it just doesn't people put it. He's viewed as
on Lebron's level with Lebron's age, and Kawai's a sense.
But but he just had he just had a great
game that helped him win and win and move on
to the to the Eastern Conference Finals. So it's not
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like your questioning whether or not he can be a
closure or can win a game would do it with
Lebron though. Yeah, but I'm just saying Lebron half fifty
one in Game one of the finals, people were killing
him because he passed off to open George Hill for
a layup. No, but Georgill didn't make the layup. That's
the problem. He still that base the criticism or whether
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or not the guy made the shot. You just would
rather your guy the same way that you saw Kawai
uh in that game. You're making my point. No, I'm
just saying you're you're even going into criticizing Lebron again.
Why aren't you going so hard on Kawhi Because I
don't think they're the same playoffs, I don't think. I
don't think. No, they're not. They're not. I think, viewed
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on Lebron's level, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
No he's not. I mean he's he's ascending, but he's
not there. He's not Lebron. He will probably King and
Kawai he will probably be second team All NBA ahead
of Lebron James. That's fine, but I'm talking about you mean,
they're not on the same We know historically, that's why
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people aren't gonna flip a switch right away and go,
oh yeah, Kawhi's are horrible. He's this, he's that, this guy.
This guy wanted to flip a switch on Lebron because
it's totally different. Lebron is. Lebron is the King, did
we king? Did we kill? Yes? He got killed? Really yes.
I was there people people ripped on Jordan not to
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even make the playoffs. I remember that Jordan was he
was not. He was ripped early in this. He was.
He was criticized early because he was just putting up points.
I read everything. I was there. They were like, Michael
Jordan is only can only dunk. He can't make anybody better.
They'll never win. Is that stuff about you? I'm asking you.
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Was that stuff not said about But of course and
and and he was criticized. I'm talking. But Lebron is
really at his Washington State. I just don't. I don't
believe Washington State. I don't believe you expect that that
Kawhi Leonard's gonna get the same criticism Lebron now, I
do not. Fourteen twenty fifteen, I just don't. But Lebron
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James is in his seventeenth year, are about to be
I don't. Michael Jordan was not getting criticized like this
in Washington. And you can say he's the greatest player
of all time. They got a statue in front of
the United Centers saying he's the greatest they'll ever will be,
but everybody understood he's older. We're not gonna kill him
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now for not being able to get them into the playoffs.
I just I don't I don't look at it the
way you see it. I think that he uh Kawhi
could be criticized. He he disappeared, He had a stinker
in the fourth quarter after putting up the points the
first three quarters and then two points in the fourth.
They lost the game that they really could have won
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and grabbed the series. It's a bad loss, it's a
bad look for Kauhi. But to think that he's gonna
get mashed the way Lebron gets mashed, I just I
just don't look at it. That one what I'm saying.
And ultimately, because I brought up Kevin Durant, which you
didn't address. But ultimately, none of these players, and Durant
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as much as he complains about the media, Kyrie Irving
as much as he complains about the media, they need
to chill because none of them get a fraction of
the criticism that Lebron James get. None of them. And
I wonder it's really made me step back and look
at it and say, are we failing to enjoy the
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greatness that we're seeing from Lebron James because we keep
focusing on he's not Jordan, the one little thing he
didn't do, rather than focusing on the great things he
did do. He's the first player ever to average a
triple double in the finals, and we're ripping him because
he passed to Kyle Korver, a great three point shooter,
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for a last shot. But when Durand was the last shot, Chris,
it wasn't Chris. It wasn't. It wasn't a last shot.
It wasn't the last shot. They were up with two,
up two with the ball Lebron's in the lane in
front of uh Draymond Green, with five fouls, they didn't
need a three. He could have taken the ball to
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the hole, but he didn't have to. That's what people
didn't understand. It wasn't a last shot. It wasn't the
last shot. That's what I mean. Okay, it wasn't the
last shot, the last critical shot at the end of
the game. If Lebron would have fouled out Draymond Green
just and made it the free throws, then they were
up by four, and instead he passed the Kyle Korver,
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they missed the shot, and then uh, who are they
playing a golden no um Golden gold State? And then
they didn't Golden State scored the last eleven points of
the game, and that was the game. You're making my point,
instead of focusing on and again, we should be critical.
But I'm just saying, are we failing to appreh the greatness?
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Because all we focus on is the negative? When I'm
looking at kd Kawi, Damian Lillard, all these other guys,
and we're not focusing at nearly as much on the
negative we're focusing on. Yeah, but Kauhi carried him me
at twenty nine in the first three, they wouldn't even
be there without him. But Lebron, we're gonna focus on
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the negative. And I'm all for being objective. Some people
think I'm a Lebron hater. Some people don't know how
I was, just I was just hating it, well compared
not compared to you. But my point is I call
it like I see it. When he's deserving of criticism,
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I criticize. When did you criticize him? Yeah? I criticized
him when he uh came out and said, I'm telling
you right, now I'm telling you right now, you can
call it up. It's it's all over the internet. When
he when he was saying it was something about what
he said about his teammates this year, about the young guys,
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and he was talking about how something about how they
need to pick it up or something like that. Now
I went off on him. Really, I kind of see that.
I don't believe that one undisputed. Yes, all right, I've
been critical or Lebron, but I also keep it real
and I don't just rip him for a stick when
he deserves the praise. What are you talking about? Are
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you trying? Who are you trying to say? If the
shoe fits, I'm just saying that's all, that's all. That's unbelievable,
that's unbelievable. Nah, all right, do you get I'm saying
saying you ripped Lebron James is like me defending Tom Brady.
That's where we are. Nah. I'm I've criticized Lebron, I
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don't rip him. I mean I have ripped him, Like
I said, all you gotta do is look it up.
And I have had people think I'm a Lebron hater,
which I agree. I think that's ridiculous that if you
say anything critical of him, which I do, ridiculous, then
some people think that's hating. I just called. But I
just you know, I'm a reporter. I call it faired
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right down the middle every single time. But you just
in this, in this discussion, you defended Kauai against his
struggles late. You didn't even address he didn't defend his team.
Quarter wasn't his arguably better without him? I just and
then I bring up two things with Lebron, and you
just go off the past to George Hill, the past
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to Kyle Corver. Kevin Durant made a past Andre Iguadollar
for a three pointer a few games ago. Now igua
Dollar hit the shot, happened to hit the shot, and
Durant gets praised for it. But Iguadollar's a thirty three
percent three point shooter, Kyle Corver's in the forties, and
Lebron gets killed because Corver missed it. That's all A
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brother's saying. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Radio and the iHeart Radio app they bring up the man,
Steph Curry the man, and you come up with a
nickname for him. Who me. Now, I'm thinking it's gonna
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be something like the Ghot, what's the gashout the gasot?
The greatest shooter of all times or something like that.
Instead it's the get Moote the greatest mirage of all time. Now,
I don't exactly know what you mean by mirage, but
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I want you. I got a feeling it's negative, and
I want you to explain it, hoping it's something like
as something positive, but I want to hear it, and
then if I have to, I'll take you the task.
It's just I know everybody's going crazy over what he's done.
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He's playing well. I mean, I'm not taking anything away
from he's a great place. And listen, I'm giving he's
a great player. Here three points in the second half.
He's playing well, like you act like he scored ten
he's in the second half. But I'm saying he's a
great player. I've always said that, even about Tom Brady,
even about Lebron. Let me hear you say it about
Tom Brady. I haven't heard else I have. Can I
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hear what Tom Brady's a great player, but he's also
the load. He's also the luckiest of all time, and
things have gone his way and he's won a few
more championships than probably should have. That's all I've ever
said about Tom Brady. Now, Steph, I think people have
just gone crazy and the believing that. I think when
I call him the greatest mirage of all time, it's
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because he's not exactly what people are making him out
to be. And he to me, when I look at him,
I see, here's a guy who unbelievably shooting from all
over the field, all over the court. Has U done
some stuff that we haven't seen before, and I mean
was range and pulling up at half court. He don't
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do as much a game. Yeah, I guess not in
a good way, but I guess, and you know that
he's changed the game. And I mean, I guess whether
you think it's a good way or not, he has
changed the game. I just question if it's good. But
that's that's fair. He's definitely changed. My only point is
I don't think he's as great as people make him
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out to be. And that's the mirage that well, while
we're and this is part of your narrative, which I
totally disagree with, is that we've been robbed and we've
been missing this and how he's played. I just don't
believe if you're that great as you talk about, and
he's not a great all the way around. And I'm
not saying that every player is great all the way around.
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He but if you're that great, that would have never
gone away or disappeared just because of another great player
showed up. That's the part where I disagree with you.
If you're the great and you're that guy, just because
KD shows up doesn't mean I gotta be a turtle
and put my head in the shell and totally disappear.
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I disagree with that take on. Oh yeah, well now
we get to see him again, and boy, we were
robbed these last couple of years and this and that,
and if you're that great, you still had every chance,
just like KD to win the finals MVP. He had
a couple of even last year, he had the big
game in the first couple of games of the finals
and everybody thought, well, STEP's finally gonna win a finals MVP.
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You remember it was talk like that. I think, did
he have a great, big game too, Chris, if I'm
trying a great series, but I'm just saying, nobody had
a really big game, and I thought Duran should have
got it, but Steph was close. Some people thought Steph
was close enough to get it. Yeah, but I thought
at one point after game, everybody thought he was going
to be the end of the series. People were thinking
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going into the last game, I think it was close.
I thought it was KD, but Steph was close. But
here's where I disagree with what you just said. He
didn't disappear. You act like he became a role player.
He was their leading scorer this year. He averaged twenty
seven points a game. Durant average twenty six. I'm talking
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about let me finish, Okay, the twenty seventeen finals. Here's
Steph's numbers twenty seven points, nine point four assist, eight
rebounds a game, twenty seven nine and eight four six three. Dude,
he almost averaged a triple double. Is that disappearing? And
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he won the final because Kevin Durant is better, But
that doesn't mean Steph disappeared. All I'm saying is my
statement is this, when Kevin Durant is out, Steph has
to do more, and he does do more, and it's
more exciting to watch him do more. But I never
said he ain't playing well. He averaged twenty seven nine
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and eight year and they didn't have the same impact.
So numbers don't always numbers don't always. No, No, twenty
seven nine eight is impact. Now again, Kevin Durant was
the deserved MVP, but they're not the same impact. This
is my point. Nobody saying he was as good as
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Kevin Durant. All I'm saying is you acted like he
was a role player. No. But if he's at the
greatest shooter of all time and this player he's the
greatest shooters, I understand that. But if you're just player,
if you're the greatest shooter, you you mean to tell
me you can't win one finals MVP. I'm serious about things.
You are so hung up I am. I don't know
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how many of kareem I'll do a jabbar six championships.
He was the finals in no. I know Michael Jordan
was all six about I'm talking about Michael Jordan. I'm
talking about Michael Jordan saying that Steph Curry's as good
as Michael. I'm talking about when you talk about somebody's
the greatest this of all time, I'm expecting extraordinary and
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special thing. He and I having you extra special As
a shoot, He's the author of the shoot. He's the
author of a three to one choking the finals, the
first time it's ever happened. Was the author of it too,
Not in the finals, not in the finals, the first
conference I'm talking about it that never happened in the
NBA finals ever in the league's history. He also the
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one championship he led him to. Kywee was hurt and
Kevin Lovell was hurt. I'm just telling you, I mean, so,
if they don't win a championship, if they don't win
a championship, the first championship, they don't want a champion injuries.
I'm just saying to you, if they don't win a
champ let I mean seriously, like we gonna critique every
single final. Yes, I am so don't one of the
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greatest of all time. I'm not the greatest player. I'm nippi.
You don't understand. I do understanding shooter and player. I
do understand. Then why are you bringing up player incidents
rather than shooting incident? Because I'm telling you. He's not
saying he's the greatest player. If he' eatest shoot, If
he was the greatest shooter, he'd have more finals MVP
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and they wouldn't They wouldn't have lost the three to one.
But if they lost the three to one and he
was the greatest shooter of all time, if they who's
the bestest best center of all time? Rob, I'm not
talking about can you answer the question? I don't remember
a shot all right. Most people think Kareem I was
the greatest center of all time. If he was the
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greatest center of all time, he would have had more
than two finals MVPs in his six championships. If he
was the greatest center of all time, him in Magic Johnson.
In fact, if Magic Johnson was the greatest point guard
of all time, they wouldn't have got swept by the
Philadelphia seventy six ers in nineteen eighty three in the finals.
They wouldn't have lost in the first round in nineteen
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eighty one in the playoffs. I mean, come on, Rob,
seriously serious, everybody's got these wars. Seriously, everybody's got these warts.
I'm just telling you. And if you were gonna see
here and say he's not the greatest player. Even if
you were cut to come at me and disagree with
Mike you have the greatest. Well, let me finish. If
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you were to disagree with my take that he's the
greatest small player of all time. I could get with that.
I do that. I veheminly disagree with that. That's fine.
But to say he's not the greatest shooter, I don't
think he's the greatest shooting. But Durant, give me some facts.
I'm telling me Kevin Durant's a better player. We know that.
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We're not seeing that's the best player. I'm saying he's
the best shooter. No, But your point was, oh, we
were robbed. Now you're saying you worry robbed? Which one
is it? Chris? Which one? If you were robbed, that
means you didn't see what you were seeing. Now you're
you're the one. So so you're saying he didn't change,
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He's still great, still putting up the numbers. But how
were you robbed if he was playing the same one?
I can't believe you don't know? You said you are?
There is a how are you? Why? I'm gonna answer you.
I'm asking you and let me finish and stop interrupting me.
If you ask me a question, let me answer it.
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This there are levels of greatness levels. I know you
understand that Michael Jordan was great from the moment he
stepped in the NBA, but eight years later he was greater.
And Steph Curry has been great with Kevin Durant this
regular season, these playoffs. He's never averaged less than twenty
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five points a game in the finals. I don't believe.
So he's always been great, but when two weeks ago
he was playing differently and too. Now that Kevin Durant's out,
he has gone to a greater level, a higher level,
and everyone can see it doesn't mean he wasn't great
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with Durant. There just means that now that Durant's not there,
he's playing at a greater level. There are a lot
of players that when your teammate leaves, you can't take
it to another level. He did. I give you a
prime example, Magic Johns. That doesn't mean you were robbed, Christian, No,
it doesn't. What you were saying. What you were saying
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was what you would say that he wasn't that guy.
When Kevin Durant was on the court. And that's my point.
You just said it. You said you got robbed the
last few years. What did you get robbed from? Robbed you?
I don't understand what I'm saying, Robber don't. I don't
get me. He was robb in very elementary terms. Steph
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Curry before Kevin Durant went there was playing at a
level we have hardly ever seen before. That's why he
was the unanimous MVP. Whether he deserved to be the
first one or not, he was the unanimous MVP. And
when Kevin Durant came, not as much was needed from Steph,
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which is common sense, so he didn't do as much.
But every time Kevin Durant has stepped off the floor
because of injury, in fact the last twenty games of
his first season with Golden State, Steph takes it to
a to back to that level in twenty sixteen where
he was the unanimous MVP, and he's done it again.
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So what I'm saying is I enjoy watching this six
foot three players shoot from twenty eight feet and take
all these off balance shots and hit half of them
and do all the things he's doing that he did
in twenty sixteen and that he's done in these last
two games. I enjoy watching that. I think fans enjoy
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watching that. He was still great before, you know, with
Durant there, but now he doesn't need to do as much,
so he doesn't do as much. But Chris, that that
part doesn't make sense. You're saying he was great, but
you were robbed. Well when he didn't know, you said
he would. He was already great. He wasn't great. He
took a back seat. You know why, because Kevin Durant
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is so much better. He had to take a back seat.
He's not that guy. Leave. You don't understand why I
don't Magic Johnson, Let me do it, Magic Johnson. Maybe
this was cleared up. Magic Johnson's career high early in
his career, thirty seven points at one or thirty eight points.
He did it because Kareem abdul Jabbar was out with
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an eye injury. Magic only average nineteen for his career,
So he scores thirty eight with Kareem out. Then Kareem's out.
The next night, Magic goes and scores thirty nine, best
his career high. Kareem comes back and Magic stopped scoring
like that. Now he it was Kate he was capable
of scoring more all along, but he didn't need to
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because Kareem was there and he fed Kareem, So Magic
could have scored a lot more. Magic never averaged more
than twenty three points a game in a season. He
could have averaged a lot more, but he didn't need
to because he had Kareem and Jay's Worthy and Byron Scott.
And that's what I'm saying. Why he ever got to
see Magic early in his prime without Kareem And maybe
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if he had done all these things. Heck, the rookie game,
he had forty two, fifteen and seven, So why we
could say we were right if he if he was
so great, If if stuff is that great, why in
the world would you sign off on KD joining the team?
You didn't need him, Chris, you're saying you didn't need them.
You say we don't need them If they don't need him,
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that I don't even believe they'd win the championship to
last two years didn't have KD. That's I don't believe it.
I'm not saying it's a fact, but I don't believe things.
I'm saying he signed off because he needed him. He
knew he needed him. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker
weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific. And speaking
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of over matched, Tiger Woods was over matched today. Do
you see how awful he was after coming off the Uh? Yeah,
the Master's in a major victory of you know, Major's
championship for the first time. And what was that eleven years?
What happened with Tiger to fall back? I'm not saying
he's supposed to run through everybody and he's back to
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two thousand and or ninety was a ninety six or
what was it seven? Or back when he first started
and caught fire. Do you think people saying he's back
is wrong? It is wrong to say that. Yeah, because
when I think about Tiger being back, I think of
him winning, like having a chance to win every time
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he goes out there. I don't think he will ever
be quote unquote back when he played in his heyday,
he was he had a chance every time out That's
I don't think he's that player. Now. We'll see, this
is only the first round, right, so so he has
a nack nine back. Brooks Keefko was great but this
was weird. But I think that's golf for that wasn't
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golf for Tiger Woods before. And where I do agree
with you is that he will never get to what
he was during his heyday, right, that's just in number one.
He's forty. But you couldn't count all the injuries, right, No,
he could win every and I do though, I do
feel like he has a chance to win every time,
but he's just not going to be able to do
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it like he used to. So I get that he'll
never do that where there's age, injuries, whatever. But I
do think he's back, and because I don't think being
back means being what he was at his highest level
or in his prime. Like Muhammad Ali when he came
back from exile three years out of heavyweight boxing, he
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was never the same as he was before. He was
never as good as much as he did after the exile.
He was never as good as he was before. But
he was back. He wouldn't have lost to Joe Frazier
before the exile. He wouldn't have got his jaw broken
by Ken Norton, you know, he wouldn't have lost to
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some of the other fighters that he did. But he
was still back, and he was the world champion, and
he beat George Foreman, and he beat Joe Frazier twice.
And you know, so I look at it that way.
I do think Tiger's back in that regard. Yeah, I
want to see some more. I just gotta see some more.
And was that just a what do they call it do? Aberration?
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You know, eleven years having having not won a mask
a major, I should say, And you know, everything came
Fella's way. I know he had been close a couple
of the time, but he finally Yeah, he had got
that pretty well. Yeah, but last year in this very event,
he was second right PGA Championship. Yeah, and he drank
sick in the world. Ye. Once you win a major,
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it's pretty much you're gonna be up there, you know
what I mean. But even but last year he was
ranked fairly high if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know.
But but I think you're right to say. If you're saying, look,
he's just another one of the top golfers right right now,
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he'll never be that. It's just unrealistic. Even if the
injuries hadn't occurred and the scandal hadn't occurred, he wouldn't
be that guy at forty three. So I think the
bigger question is this, Rob, do you think he's back
quote unquote back enough to really threaten Jack Nicholas's record.
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I'm I'm not convinced. I just gotta see a few
more to see where he is. Was that just a
everything that the stars aligning? Or is he really And
I know he had played better and and played better
and finished second and third and a couple of events,
you know what I mean, Chris, So I'm getting I'm
giving him that, but winning the majors that he needs
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and what does he need now? Three more to tie,
three to tie and three to time wasn't it? Isn't it,
Rob g Because he needed five or three to tie,
four to break it right, so's you know, we have
to see. Uh. I just thought maybe, you know, at
coming off of that, the adrenal adrenaline of of winning
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in such a you know, winning in such a way
and everybody going Tiger crazy that I'm not saying he
was automatically come and wipe the field, wipe the uh
course with everybody, but come out? What was he today?
Plus nine? Is? What is he not? Plus two? Plus
two but back, Yeah, and he he made some his
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putting failed him. And you know, I don't think he
had to shoot this badly, you know, hit. I believe
he was fairly decent with his drives. I believe. But
you know, I think the definition of back for him
will be Kenny challenge Jack. That's really what it will be.
It shouldn't be Kenny be what he was when he
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was twenty five. It should be Kenny challenged Nicholas for real, right,
for real, right, That's really what it is, you know.
So it's interesting, I tell you what. It is a
lot more exciting with him. I mean, I was interested.
I'm not the biggest golf fan, but I was interested
in this tournament.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. As I said,
I have been enjoying these playoffs immensely. I think that
you are enjoying them because the ratings are up to
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Spiono Lebron. It's been good, right, The ratings are up
twenty percent in the second round over last year, So
it's been great. And as I watch these matchups, and
as I enjoy other players getting the spotlight that would
have been taken up by Lebron, James Kawhi Leonard now
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getting a ton of attention, and bad, well mostly good,
but a little good, a little bad, Damian Lillard, CJ
McCollum getting attention, James Harden of course, Nicola Yokis. We
could go on and on, but as I'm watching this,
a couple of things came to my mind, these guys
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as great as they're playing, and Kawhi has been great,
and Durant was great before he got hurt, I don't
see them dominating games like Lebron James did. And I
also feel like they aren't getting nearly the amount of
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negative scrutiny that Lebron James did. I don't think they
ever will. Lebron's on a different plateau. Okay, then let's
then let's understand it, because lad if Lebron James did
what Kawhi Leonard did last night, Kawhi Leonard scores twenty
nine points in the first three quarters, they lead by
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seven going into the fourth quarter, and he ends up
giving them two points in a loss in the fourth quarter.
Oh for three from the floor just essentially disappears. If
Lebron James does that, he is getting destroyed. Now. Maybe
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some people are saying, oh, yeah, Kawhi didn't do it
in the fourth, but he has not gotten an iota
a fraction of the negative publicity or criticism that Lebron
James would have gotten had he done something that. I
just think it's apples and oranges. He as good as
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Kawhi is, and what he did with the you know,
to wor he's in his smack dab in the middle
of his prime, Lebron. But Lebron James was of child prodigy.
His expectations are way higher than the guy who went
to San Diego State. Who who plays? Yea even now,
even now? Yea, even now? Who who? Who right now
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is ranked higher as a player? Yeah? Even now? But
it's not. But it's not just that you're right, Okay,
Lebron didn't make the playoff, didn't play well, But the
expectations of a guy called who calls himself the King
and the Chosen, No, but I know. But I'm just saying,
you can't look at the two the same and think
that people are gonna respond to Kauai the same way
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as they do to Lebron. Lebron is on a different page.
He's different from everybody else. I'm just keeping it real.
You're never gonna He's never gonna get that. Now. If
he wins, I don't know. If Kawhi goes to five
championships in the row and stinks up the joint, then
maybe we're not talking about Lebron anymore. We're all talking
about Kauai. But until further notice, I mean he's still
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climbing that ladder. Lebron's already at the top of the building.
That it's just about if Lebron James sits out two
games and his team looks as good or arguably better,
if a team of his is thirty one in four
without him, he's getting crushed. Yeah, I just a lot
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more than Kevin Durant, and I get a little bit
a little bit of what you're saying about Kauai. Obviously
historically he's not on Lebron's level, but right now, yeah,
but it just doesn't people put it. He's viewed as
on Lebron's level with Lebron's age, and Kawai's a sense.
But but he just had he just had a great
game that helped him win and win and move on
to the to the Eastern Conference Finals. So it's not
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like your questioning whether or not he can be a
closure or can win a game would do it with
Lebron though. Yeah, but I'm just saying Lebron half fifty
one in Game one of the finals, people were killing
him because he passed off to open George Hill for
a layup. No, but Georgill didn't make the layup. That's
the problem. He still that base the criticism or whether
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or not the guy made the shot. You just would
rather your guy the same way that you saw Kawai
uh in that game. You're making my point. No, I'm
just saying you're you're even going into criticizing Lebron again.
Why aren't you going so hard on Kawhi Because I
don't think they're the same playoffs, I don't think. I
don't think. No, they're not. They're not. I think, viewed
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on Lebron's level, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
No he's not. I mean he's he's ascending, but he's
not there. He's not Lebron. He will probably King and
Kawai he will probably be second team All NBA ahead
of Lebron James. That's fine, but I'm talking about you mean,
they're not on the same We know historically, that's why
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people aren't gonna flip a switch right away and go,
oh yeah, Kawhi's are horrible. He's this, he's that, this guy.
This guy wanted to flip a switch on Lebron because
it's totally different. Lebron is. Lebron is the King, did
we king? Did we kill? Yes? He got killed? Really yes.
I was there people people ripped on Jordan not to
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even make the playoffs. I remember that Jordan was he
was not. He was ripped early in this. He was.
He was criticized early because he was just putting up points.
I read everything. I was there. They were like, Michael
Jordan is only can only dunk. He can't make anybody better.
They'll never win. Is that stuff about you? I'm asking you.
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Was that stuff not said about But of course and
and and he was criticized. I'm talking. But Lebron is
really at his Washington State. I just don't. I don't
believe Washington State. I don't believe you expect that that
Kawhi Leonard's gonna get the same criticism Lebron now, I
do not. Fourteen twenty fifteen, I just don't. But Lebron
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James is in his seventeenth year, are about to be
I don't. Michael Jordan was not getting criticized like this
in Washington. And you can say he's the greatest player
of all time. They got a statue in front of
the United Centers saying he's the greatest they'll ever will be,
but everybody understood he's older. We're not gonna kill him
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now for not being able to get them into the playoffs.
I just I don't I don't look at it the
way you see it. I think that he uh Kawhi
could be criticized. He he disappeared, He had a stinker
in the fourth quarter after putting up the points the
first three quarters and then two points in the fourth.
They lost the game that they really could have won
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and grabbed the series. It's a bad loss, it's a
bad look for Kauhi. But to think that he's gonna
get mashed the way Lebron gets mashed, I just I
just don't look at it. That one what I'm saying.
And ultimately, because I brought up Kevin Durant, which you
didn't address. But ultimately, none of these players, and Durant
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as much as he complains about the media, Kyrie Irving
as much as he complains about the media, they need
to chill because none of them get a fraction of
the criticism that Lebron James get. None of them. And
I wonder it's really made me step back and look
at it and say, are we failing to enjoy the
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greatness that we're seeing from Lebron James because we keep
focusing on he's not Jordan, the one little thing he
didn't do, rather than focusing on the great things he
did do. He's the first player ever to average a
triple double in the finals, and we're ripping him because
he passed to Kyle Korver, a great three point shooter,
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for a last shot. But when Durand was the last shot, Chris,
it wasn't Chris. It wasn't. It wasn't a last shot.
It wasn't the last shot. They were up with two,
up two with the ball Lebron's in the lane in
front of uh Draymond Green, with five fouls, they didn't
need a three. He could have taken the ball to
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the hole, but he didn't have to. That's what people
didn't understand. It wasn't a last shot. It wasn't the
last shot. That's what I mean. Okay, it wasn't the
last shot, the last critical shot at the end of
the game. If Lebron would have fouled out Draymond Green
just and made it the free throws, then they were
up by four, and instead he passed the Kyle Korver,
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they missed the shot, and then uh, who are they
playing a golden no um Golden gold State? And then
they didn't Golden State scored the last eleven points of
the game, and that was the game. You're making my point,
instead of focusing on and again, we should be critical.
But I'm just saying, are we failing to appreh the greatness?
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Because all we focus on is the negative? When I'm
looking at kd Kawi, Damian Lillard, all these other guys,
and we're not focusing at nearly as much on the
negative we're focusing on. Yeah, but Kauhi carried him me
at twenty nine in the first three, they wouldn't even
be there without him. But Lebron, we're gonna focus on
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the negative. And I'm all for being objective. Some people
think I'm a Lebron hater. Some people don't know how
I was, just I was just hating it, well compared
not compared to you. But my point is I call
it like I see it. When he's deserving of criticism,
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I criticize. When did you criticize him? Yeah? I criticized
him when he uh came out and said, I'm telling
you right, now I'm telling you right now, you can
call it up. It's it's all over the internet. When
he when he was saying it was something about what
he said about his teammates this year, about the young guys,
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and he was talking about how something about how they
need to pick it up or something like that. Now
I went off on him. Really, I kind of see that.
I don't believe that one undisputed. Yes, all right, I've
been critical or Lebron, but I also keep it real
and I don't just rip him for a stick when
he deserves the praise. What are you talking about? Are
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you trying? Who are you trying to say? If the
shoe fits, I'm just saying that's all, that's all. That's unbelievable,
that's unbelievable. Nah, all right, do you get I'm saying
saying you ripped Lebron James is like me defending Tom Brady.
That's where we are. Nah. I'm I've criticized Lebron, I
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don't rip him. I mean I have ripped him, Like
I said, all you gotta do is look it up.
And I have had people think I'm a Lebron hater,
which I agree. I think that's ridiculous that if you
say anything critical of him, which I do, ridiculous, then
some people think that's hating. I just called. But I
just you know, I'm a reporter. I call it faired
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right down the middle every single time. But you just
in this, in this discussion, you defended Kauai against his
struggles late. You didn't even address he didn't defend his team.
Quarter wasn't his arguably better without him? I just and
then I bring up two things with Lebron, and you
just go off the past to George Hill, the past
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to Kyle Corver. Kevin Durant made a past Andre Iguadollar
for a three pointer a few games ago. Now igua
Dollar hit the shot, happened to hit the shot, and
Durant gets praised for it. But Iguadollar's a thirty three
percent three point shooter, Kyle Corver's in the forties, and
Lebron gets killed because Corver missed it. That's all A
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brother's saying. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Radio and the iHeart Radio app they bring up the man,
Steph Curry the man, and you come up with a
nickname for him. Who me. Now, I'm thinking it's gonna
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be something like the Ghot, what's the gashout the gasot?
The greatest shooter of all times or something like that.
Instead it's the get Moote the greatest mirage of all time. Now,
I don't exactly know what you mean by mirage, but
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I want you. I got a feeling it's negative, and
I want you to explain it, hoping it's something like
as something positive, but I want to hear it, and
then if I have to, I'll take you the task.
It's just I know everybody's going crazy over what he's done.
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He's playing well. I mean, I'm not taking anything away
from he's a great place. And listen, I'm giving he's
a great player. Here three points in the second half.
He's playing well, like you act like he scored ten
he's in the second half. But I'm saying he's a
great player. I've always said that, even about Tom Brady,
even about Lebron. Let me hear you say it about
Tom Brady. I haven't heard else I have. Can I
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hear what Tom Brady's a great player, but he's also
the load. He's also the luckiest of all time, and
things have gone his way and he's won a few
more championships than probably should have. That's all I've ever
said about Tom Brady. Now, Steph, I think people have
just gone crazy and the believing that. I think when
I call him the greatest mirage of all time, it's
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because he's not exactly what people are making him out
to be. And he to me, when I look at him,
I see, here's a guy who unbelievably shooting from all
over the field, all over the court. Has U done
some stuff that we haven't seen before, and I mean
was range and pulling up at half court. He don't
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do as much a game. Yeah, I guess not in
a good way, but I guess, and you know that
he's changed the game. And I mean, I guess whether
you think it's a good way or not, he has
changed the game. I just question if it's good. But
that's that's fair. He's definitely changed. My only point is
I don't think he's as great as people make him
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out to be. And that's the mirage that well, while
we're and this is part of your narrative, which I
totally disagree with, is that we've been robbed and we've
been missing this and how he's played. I just don't
believe if you're that great as you talk about, and
he's not a great all the way around. And I'm
not saying that every player is great all the way around.
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He but if you're that great, that would have never
gone away or disappeared just because of another great player
showed up. That's the part where I disagree with you.
If you're the great and you're that guy, just because
KD shows up doesn't mean I gotta be a turtle
and put my head in the shell and totally disappear.
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I disagree with that take on. Oh yeah, well now
we get to see him again, and boy, we were
robbed these last couple of years and this and that,
and if you're that great, you still had every chance,
just like KD to win the finals MVP. He had
a couple of even last year, he had the big
game in the first couple of games of the finals
and everybody thought, well, STEP's finally gonna win a finals MVP.
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You remember it was talk like that. I think, did
he have a great, big game too, Chris, if I'm
trying a great series, but I'm just saying, nobody had
a really big game, and I thought Duran should have
got it, but Steph was close. Some people thought Steph
was close enough to get it. Yeah, but I thought
at one point after game, everybody thought he was going
to be the end of the series. People were thinking
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going into the last game, I think it was close.
I thought it was KD, but Steph was close. But
here's where I disagree with what you just said. He
didn't disappear. You act like he became a role player.
He was their leading scorer this year. He averaged twenty
seven points a game. Durant average twenty six. I'm talking
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about let me finish, Okay, the twenty seventeen finals. Here's
Steph's numbers twenty seven points, nine point four assist, eight
rebounds a game, twenty seven nine and eight four six three. Dude,
he almost averaged a triple double. Is that disappearing? And
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he won the final because Kevin Durant is better, But
that doesn't mean Steph disappeared. All I'm saying is my
statement is this, when Kevin Durant is out, Steph has
to do more, and he does do more, and it's
more exciting to watch him do more. But I never
said he ain't playing well. He averaged twenty seven nine
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and eight year and they didn't have the same impact.
So numbers don't always numbers don't always. No, No, twenty
seven nine eight is impact. Now again, Kevin Durant was
the deserved MVP, but they're not the same impact. This
is my point. Nobody saying he was as good as
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Kevin Durant. All I'm saying is you acted like he
was a role player. No. But if he's at the
greatest shooter of all time and this player he's the
greatest shooters, I understand that. But if you're just player,
if you're the greatest shooter, you you mean to tell
me you can't win one finals MVP. I'm serious about things.
You are so hung up I am. I don't know
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how many of kareem I'll do a jabbar six championships.
He was the finals in no. I know Michael Jordan
was all six about I'm talking about Michael Jordan. I'm
talking about Michael Jordan saying that Steph Curry's as good
as Michael. I'm talking about when you talk about somebody's
the greatest this of all time, I'm expecting extraordinary and
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special thing. He and I having you extra special As
a shoot, He's the author of the shoot. He's the
author of a three to one choking the finals, the
first time it's ever happened. Was the author of it too,
Not in the finals, not in the finals, the first
conference I'm talking about it that never happened in the
NBA finals ever in the league's history. He also the
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one championship he led him to. Kywee was hurt and
Kevin Lovell was hurt. I'm just telling you, I mean, so,
if they don't win a championship, if they don't win
a championship, the first championship, they don't want a champion injuries.
I'm just saying to you, if they don't win a
champ let I mean seriously, like we gonna critique every
single final. Yes, I am so don't one of the
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greatest of all time. I'm not the greatest player. I'm nippi.
You don't understand. I do understanding shooter and player. I
do understand. Then why are you bringing up player incidents
rather than shooting incident? Because I'm telling you. He's not
saying he's the greatest player. If he' eatest shoot, If
he was the greatest shooter, he'd have more finals MVP
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and they wouldn't They wouldn't have lost the three to one.
But if they lost the three to one and he
was the greatest shooter of all time, if they who's
the bestest best center of all time? Rob, I'm not
talking about can you answer the question? I don't remember
a shot all right. Most people think Kareem I was
the greatest center of all time. If he was the
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greatest center of all time, he would have had more
than two finals MVPs in his six championships. If he
was the greatest center of all time, him in Magic Johnson.
In fact, if Magic Johnson was the greatest point guard
of all time, they wouldn't have got swept by the
Philadelphia seventy six ers in nineteen eighty three in the finals.
They wouldn't have lost in the first round in nineteen
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eighty one in the playoffs. I mean, come on, Rob,
seriously serious, everybody's got these wars. Seriously, everybody's got these warts.
I'm just telling you. And if you were gonna see
here and say he's not the greatest player. Even if
you were cut to come at me and disagree with
Mike you have the greatest. Well, let me finish. If
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you were to disagree with my take that he's the
greatest small player of all time. I could get with that.
I do that. I veheminly disagree with that. That's fine.
But to say he's not the greatest shooter, I don't
think he's the greatest shooting. But Durant, give me some facts.
I'm telling me Kevin Durant's a better player. We know that.
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We're not seeing that's the best player. I'm saying he's
the best shooter. No, But your point was, oh, we
were robbed. Now you're saying you worry robbed? Which one
is it? Chris? Which one? If you were robbed, that
means you didn't see what you were seeing. Now you're
you're the one. So so you're saying he didn't change,
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He's still great, still putting up the numbers. But how
were you robbed if he was playing the same one?
I can't believe you don't know? You said you are?
There is a how are you? Why? I'm gonna answer you.
I'm asking you and let me finish and stop interrupting me.
If you ask me a question, let me answer it.
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This there are levels of greatness levels. I know you
understand that Michael Jordan was great from the moment he
stepped in the NBA, but eight years later he was greater.
And Steph Curry has been great with Kevin Durant this
regular season, these playoffs. He's never averaged less than twenty
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five points a game in the finals. I don't believe.
So he's always been great, but when two weeks ago
he was playing differently and too. Now that Kevin Durant's out,
he has gone to a greater level, a higher level,
and everyone can see it doesn't mean he wasn't great
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with Durant. There just means that now that Durant's not there,
he's playing at a greater level. There are a lot
of players that when your teammate leaves, you can't take
it to another level. He did. I give you a
prime example, Magic Johns. That doesn't mean you were robbed, Christian, No,
it doesn't. What you were saying. What you were saying
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was what you would say that he wasn't that guy.
When Kevin Durant was on the court. And that's my point.
You just said it. You said you got robbed the
last few years. What did you get robbed from? Robbed you?
I don't understand what I'm saying, Robber don't. I don't
get me. He was robb in very elementary terms. Steph
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Curry before Kevin Durant went there was playing at a
level we have hardly ever seen before. That's why he
was the unanimous MVP. Whether he deserved to be the
first one or not, he was the unanimous MVP. And
when Kevin Durant came, not as much was needed from Steph,
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which is common sense, so he didn't do as much.
But every time Kevin Durant has stepped off the floor
because of injury, in fact the last twenty games of
his first season with Golden State, Steph takes it to
a to back to that level in twenty sixteen where
he was the unanimous MVP, and he's done it again.
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So what I'm saying is I enjoy watching this six
foot three players shoot from twenty eight feet and take
all these off balance shots and hit half of them
and do all the things he's doing that he did
in twenty sixteen and that he's done in these last
two games. I enjoy watching that. I think fans enjoy
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watching that. He was still great before, you know, with
Durant there, but now he doesn't need to do as much,
so he doesn't do as much. But Chris, that that
part doesn't make sense. You're saying he was great, but
you were robbed. Well when he didn't know, you said
he would. He was already great. He wasn't great. He
took a back seat. You know why, because Kevin Durant
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is so much better. He had to take a back seat.
He's not that guy. Leave. You don't understand why I
don't Magic Johnson, Let me do it, Magic Johnson. Maybe
this was cleared up. Magic Johnson's career high early in
his career, thirty seven points at one or thirty eight points.
He did it because Kareem abdul Jabbar was out with
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an eye injury. Magic only average nineteen for his career,
So he scores thirty eight with Kareem out. Then Kareem's out.
The next night, Magic goes and scores thirty nine, best
his career high. Kareem comes back and Magic stopped scoring
like that. Now he it was Kate he was capable
of scoring more all along, but he didn't need to
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because Kareem was there and he fed Kareem, So Magic
could have scored a lot more. Magic never averaged more
than twenty three points a game in a season. He
could have averaged a lot more, but he didn't need
to because he had Kareem and Jay's Worthy and Byron Scott.
And that's what I'm saying. Why he ever got to
see Magic early in his prime without Kareem And maybe
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if he had done all these things. Heck, the rookie game,
he had forty two, fifteen and seven, So why we
could say we were right if he if he was
so great, If if stuff is that great, why in
the world would you sign off on KD joining the team?
You didn't need him, Chris, you're saying you didn't need them.
You say we don't need them If they don't need him,
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that I don't even believe they'd win the championship to
last two years didn't have KD. That's I don't believe it.
I'm not saying it's a fact, but I don't believe things.
I'm saying he signed off because he needed him. He
knew he needed him. Be sure to catch live editions
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of over matched, Tiger Woods was over matched today. Do
you see how awful he was after coming off the Uh? Yeah,
the Master's in a major victory of you know, Major's
championship for the first time. And what was that eleven years?
What happened with Tiger to fall back? I'm not saying
he's supposed to run through everybody and he's back to
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two thousand and or ninety was a ninety six or
what was it seven? Or back when he first started
and caught fire. Do you think people saying he's back
is wrong? It is wrong to say that. Yeah, because
when I think about Tiger being back, I think of
him winning, like having a chance to win every time
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he goes out there. I don't think he will ever
be quote unquote back when he played in his heyday,
he was he had a chance every time out That's
I don't think he's that player. Now. We'll see, this
is only the first round, right, so so he has
a nack nine back. Brooks Keefko was great but this
was weird. But I think that's golf for that wasn't
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golf for Tiger Woods before. And where I do agree
with you is that he will never get to what
he was during his heyday, right, that's just in number one.
He's forty. But you couldn't count all the injuries, right, No,
he could win every and I do though, I do
feel like he has a chance to win every time,
but he's just not going to be able to do
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it like he used to. So I get that he'll
never do that where there's age, injuries, whatever. But I
do think he's back, and because I don't think being
back means being what he was at his highest level
or in his prime. Like Muhammad Ali when he came
back from exile three years out of heavyweight boxing, he
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was never the same as he was before. He was
never as good as much as he did after the exile.
He was never as good as he was before. But
he was back. He wouldn't have lost to Joe Frazier
before the exile. He wouldn't have got his jaw broken
by Ken Norton, you know, he wouldn't have lost to
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some of the other fighters that he did. But he
was still back, and he was the world champion, and
he beat George Foreman, and he beat Joe Frazier twice.
And you know, so I look at it that way.
I do think Tiger's back in that regard. Yeah, I
want to see some more. I just gotta see some more.
And was that just a what do they call it do? Aberration?
(29:41):
You know, eleven years having having not won a mask
a major, I should say, And you know, everything came
Fella's way. I know he had been close a couple
of the time, but he finally Yeah, he had got
that pretty well. Yeah, but last year in this very event,
he was second right PGA Championship. Yeah, and he drank
sick in the world. Ye. Once you win a major,
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it's pretty much you're gonna be up there, you know
what I mean. But even but last year he was
ranked fairly high if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know.
But but I think you're right to say. If you're saying, look,
he's just another one of the top golfers right right now,
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he'll never be that. It's just unrealistic. Even if the
injuries hadn't occurred and the scandal hadn't occurred, he wouldn't
be that guy at forty three. So I think the
bigger question is this, Rob, do you think he's back
quote unquote back enough to really threaten Jack Nicholas's record.
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I'm I'm not convinced. I just gotta see a few
more to see where he is. Was that just a
everything that the stars aligning? Or is he really And
I know he had played better and and played better
and finished second and third and a couple of events,
you know what I mean, Chris, So I'm getting I'm
giving him that, but winning the majors that he needs
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and what does he need now? Three more to tie,
three to tie and three to time wasn't it? Isn't it,
Rob g Because he needed five or three to tie,
four to break it right, so's you know, we have
to see. Uh. I just thought maybe, you know, at
coming off of that, the adrenal adrenaline of of winning
(31:33):
in such a you know, winning in such a way
and everybody going Tiger crazy that I'm not saying he
was automatically come and wipe the field, wipe the uh
course with everybody, but come out? What was he today?
Plus nine? Is? What is he not? Plus two? Plus
two but back, Yeah, and he he made some his
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putting failed him. And you know, I don't think he
had to shoot this badly, you know, hit. I believe
he was fairly decent with his drives. I believe. But
you know, I think the definition of back for him
will be Kenny challenge Jack. That's really what it will be.
It shouldn't be Kenny be what he was when he
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was twenty five. It should be Kenny challenged Nicholas for real, right,
for real, right, That's really what it is, you know.
So it's interesting, I tell you what. It is a
lot more exciting with him. I mean, I was interested.
I'm not the biggest golf fan, but I was interested
in this tournament.
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