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You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brush and Rod Harker. I am so proud. Oh,
here we go. He's gonna try to sell fucker. I
am so proud of my man, Roy Parker. Congratulations, man,
I mean seriously, you called it four games to two raptors.
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I'm very proud of you. Man. You did a great job.
I want to salute you. I know how much you
put into your picks. I know how emotionally getting these games,
because we've been seeing you as I watched the games
with you, whether it's football, basketball. Yesterday you got up,
you wanted to leave the restaurant. I wasn't leaving, but
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you stayed. And I really want to congratulate you, man.
Good job, good year. A lot of people got that
one right. Some did, there were others, but not many. Nah.
I give you credit man, good job. Can we hear
the microwave take? Yeah, let's hear the microwave take time
to cool the metal. It's microwave take. With the oncover
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of who you picking? Who's winning the finals this year?
I gotta go with the Toronto Raptors And wait, wait,
wait wait wait didn't you just say Golden stay over Toronto.
They're missing the best player in the world and I'm
not picking them without it. You're ready for this? Give
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me out, Chris Buzzard, no KD, no title. It was
that simple. And let's start this program as we congratulate
the Toronto Raptors from knocking off the fraudulent Golden State Warriors.
And are we ready? Let's start this and praise to Canada.
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Here we go, Oh Canada, our homemanate of land, true
patory love in all of us. Come man with clony hearts.
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We see the rise. They no strong and free from
far and wide. Oh, Oh Cana duh. We stand on
God for thee. God keep Barland glory san free, Oh
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Cana dah. We stand on God for thee, Oh Canada,
We stand on God for the Yes. Sir liss Lisir live.
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I think our fans in the Toronto and Canada would
rather lose the final. They want that. They never listen
to that, And here we go. Chris Broussard, you are
the one that has to feel the wrath of what
has just taken place because you are the one ring
or the resard who came away for the warriors. No,
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I want you to listen for the warrior want you
to listen isn't about Chris Bliss. This is about the
raptors and the Warrior's about the false narrative that Chris
Hussar tried to perpetrate that war. How dare you the
audacity the gumption that you would walk around here trying
to tell everybody that Steph Curry is that guy Chris Bussard.
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He is not that guy. He's never been that guy.
Steph Curry should be called Chef Curry because they've been
cooking the books for him for years. The real numbers
came out last night. Steph Curry had a chance to
be the hero. All he had to do was make
one three pointer one. He got a good look. He
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could have been the hero with ten seconds ago. But
you know what happened. Steph Curry can make the clutch shots.
He has never made the clutch shots when it matters.
Last night, when he missed that three pointed with ten
seconds to go and his team down by one, you
know what, that could have erased everything. It could have
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erased Kd's injury, could have erased Clay's injury, Looney's. He
could have won that game, forced the game seven, and
showed the real greatness that he has. But then again,
Steph has never made that shot. He is now officially
oh for eight in the playoffs with less than twenty
seconds to go. He doesn't make that shot. And that's
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what we gotta finally get. Is he a great player? Absolutely,
but he is the mcgoat. He is the greatest mirage
of all time, right he is. He didn't write the
greatest mirage of all time, the Gamo, And that's when
he is. He ain't no god, even the mcgoat. No
I said the Gamoe. You can't even get your own things.
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I'm so worked up a bottom acronym straight. And what
I talk about this is he can make all the
meaningless circus three pointers you you want to make during
the regular season, and everybody go, wow, oh my god,
Steph Curry when it really matters, he can't make the
one that matters, And that's what separates you and makes
you a great player when you don't have to make
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them all, but you need to deliver. That was a
chance Steph Curry had to deliver for his team, deliver
for his city. And Chris Bussa walked around here with
this fake ass that they don't need Kevin Durant and
it's better the Warriors are better with I never say,
never said no. No, take that back. I never said
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they were better without Q one, And I say the
question is are they better than everybody else without kend No,
we don't know, we do no, no, we don't want
to know that beat Hey, Peter. The bottom line to
stop Steph Curry, you gonna Curry is not that. Come
with me, then come correct, step don't miss quote me
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when you come at Steph Curry is not that guy.
And we got exhibit a last night, as we have
and in these playoffs when it comes to late any
late time three pointers, he wasn't that guy. And we've
seen the bad games. Oh yeah, the last game at
the Oracle. Oh it meets have so much history behind it,
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and they ain't no way Steph Curry's gonna go out
like that. But and then we could go back to
the twenty sixteen NBA Finals before Kevin Durant got there.
Remember that, you got your stats, that's Jonas, that's the
most that's from Jonah your in turn, All right, go ahead,
But the bottom line is what he's saying. And twenty sixteen,
he remember in Game seven, he was six for nineteen
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from the field, four for fourteen from three part land
and had a big role in why they choked down
a three to one lead. So let's take a little
history lesson of Steph Curry. Steph Curry won a championship
in twenty fifteen, and you know what he wanted. But
let's be honest, and that's in that finals there was
no there was no love, and there was no car,
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no dollar k. So he's the Raptors time. Don't tell me.
I'm just telling you this. Raptors titles count, and I'm
just the Raptors time. I'm killing you that whin he
didn't count? Of course a count O Kay didn't stop.
Stop I'm saying, but the one that's the one, make
that tod that's the one. Championship that he could lead
them to. Is that what I'm saying is no the narrative.
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Why wasn't all that for a VanVleet wasn't all that without?
He was hurt without k D? Was hurt without k D.
He has to have a stack situation for to work for.
If it ain't stack, he doesn't win. And that's where
we are. Steph Curry, stop you. He's a great, but
he is He is not the one of the the
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five greatest ten. Whatever you had, I never then the
idea that you think that he's better than Isaiah. Stop it.
That's the best you could do. I laid away at
home all night. I laid it all night. You had
all day, and that's the best you could do. Let
me let me clean it up. You ain't gonna c
U for two. I'm gonna give my Steph Curry take
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since you got all ahead of yourself, go ahead. It
ain't gonna be no debate. You went for ten minutes.
I deserved for ten minute. Nail it when finals nail it.
Let me's right. Let me get crispal Sauds picked for
people don't remember what the warriors and say you had
you couldn't be any You couldn't be anymore. Stop. You
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had your time, all right. Let me let me clean
it up. Let me get the raptors skin. No, no,
let me clean up. Let me give the raptors their
props because you sat here and killed the losers instead
of giving the winners their props. Fred Van Fleet stepped
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up and balled. Pascal Siakam stepped up and ball. Of course,
Kawhi Leonard did his thing. Kyle Lowry was tremendous in
the first half and very good all night. I'm not
gonna sit here and berate an injury riddled Golden State
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Warriors team that showed the heart of a champion, literally
a mash unit. Klay Thompson going out there with a
bad hamstring and tears his acl and tells his coach,
I'll be back in two minutes, and they going to
Marcus Cousins can't get two inches off the ground, but
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he's playing his heart out. Quinn Cook nobody's star out
there bawling. Andre Guadolla darnear, ready to retire playing well
anything you give one steph Curry was healthy. He didn't
get it done. You talking about the people were hurt.
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I'm telling you Steph Curry was healthy, had a white
open three, a great look to win the game and
change history. He couldn't do it. He's never done it, y'all.
See whatever I start off giving him his props. You
got the Toronto, You've seen Old Canada, but you are
your heart ain't with the Raptors because you spent ten
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year minutes. You could have been praising Kauai. You could
have been praising their players their heart, and you spent
ten minutes trying to rip Steph Curry. With anybody that
knows anything about basketball knows that was full of spite
and deceit and was it true. Be sure to catch
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Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific
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I know for the Odd Couple celebrity corners, Well, we
would love to bring this brother in, or at least
I would under better circumstances. The circumstances are far. Can
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I get the words out of my mouth? My goodness,
it is the legendary MC, the multi platinum recording artist,
mister fab and he is a huge Golden State Warriors fan.
I'm with you, fab, I feel your pain today. But
I'm warn you Rob Parker's gonna be awfully hard on
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you here walking around here with his chest all out bragging,
trying to rip me, rip Steph. I'm just talking about facts,
that's all, mister Faber. I picked I picked Toronto in
six and Steph had a chance last night to be
the hero. But again, how come he doesn't make any
big shots when it matters? That's what I want to
know from you. I mean, well, one thing, Rob, I've
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listened to you for a long time, man, a friend
of mine from Detroit. You's always put me on you,
and I'm pretty sure you're kind of close to Toronto.
So no reason, no, no, no funny thing about you
going towards him. That's hit a lot of big shots
to get us there. What happened last night is man
five straight finals. He become fatigued, man, and there's no excuses.
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Let's just say this out there. Regardless of how much
of a biased Warriors fan I am, Toronto played a
better series than us, and those guys was out there
hitting exceptional shots and all their positional players played everything
that they needed to do. They were they were on point.
You've seen Siakam, You've seen Van Fleet, You've seen Kyle Lowry,
who put on a magnificent first half of that game.
And those guys just played very tough last night. We've
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won some championships due to injuries on other teams, and
now the shoe was on the other foot, so we
can't complain about it. Man. I love that. Now, that's
an honest, real take. It's good a brother of brother
of fresh Air to hear somebody be honest for a change.
Go ahead, Chris, he trying to kill you with kindness. Oh,
I love it. I love A lot of people are
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talking about the end of the era, the end of
this dynasty. Do you think this is kind of the
end of it? And uh, you know the glory days
are behind you, guys, not at all. I feel like
this is actually a refreshing and refurbishing moment of it.
I just heard of comments. I read a comment earlier
and someone says, you guys won't even make the playoffs
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next year, and I just found that funny. I can't
see seven teams better than just death alone on this team. Unfortunately,
we were plagued by two injuries that have been destrimental
to certain players' careers. Watching the resurrection of guys like
Kevin Durant and seeing you know, the forth coming to
hear more in detail about a tour in acl with
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Clay Thompson, That's a lot to worry about. For me
to say that I'm not worried would be a lie.
But with Draymond and Steph Curry and the rebuilding and
the faith that I have in Bob Meyers and the
rest of our front office, I'm pretty sure that we're
going to go out and strengthen the bench and do
what we have to do to continue to compete in
the Western Conference as well as in the whole NBA.
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But do you remember what was that, Chris? Was that
Game three when Jeff Van Gundy, the one that Clay missed,
said that said the the team that they put out
there wouldn't make the playoffs? Uh? Do you remember that?
Did you did? I mean, we're talking about Jeff Van
Dundee here, No disrespect a great coach as an analyst,
but Jeff, what does Jeff ben Dundee? Everyone? No, But
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I'm just saying that it was just weird to hear
him say that. Even with Stephan, I think he's talking
about Boogie. You can't even jump right now. He'll be back.
I think Boogie is gonna be back. What are your
thoughts have? Do you want him back? You think he
fits the style or you think he'll be moving on.
I like Boogie's persona. I like he brings a tough
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guy guy to our edge. Um. I was watching him
last night giving some uh some some piercing stairs to
a Baca and he kind of liked with startling a bodka.
Bodka didn't even want to look at him, and as I,
you know, I saw that. I don't think the television
was able to capture that m Boogie. But if you're
asking me from the athletic ability of Boogie Cousins today,
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I don't feel like Boogie is the athlete that we
need to compete at the center position. And what I
mean by that is a guy like Let's just take
for instance, if we would have had Javelle McGee, that
would have put more pressure on him. He's athletic, he's strong,
and he could go out and get those extra rebounds.
A rim protector and he can get those rebounds that
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Boogie wasn't jumping for. But just what's tapping them to
himself for? You know what I mean? You can count
on Javelle to go jump for those and go do
some things man to to risk his body to go
get those things. Um so athletically. I just don't feel
like Boogie Cousins today can be the center that we
need to move forward. What I loved him on our team, yes,
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just because of what he represents. He's a very he's
a tough body, but a starting center in twenty twenty,
I don't think so. It's ci couple. We're joined by
multi platinum recording artists. Mister fab I'm sure you have
relationships with the players and you're you're around the team. Well,
how much did just all the talk about Kevin Durant
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going to New York and leaving? How much did that
kind of hang over the team's head all season long?
And you think that might have been a distraction that
hurt him as well? Well? Chris, what we have to
realize this man, when you were a winning team and
you're a franchise, something that we had to get accustomed
to doing for being the laughing stock of the league
for so many years, we had to get used to
the rumors. It's like the girl who's not the most
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attractive girl in school, all of a sudden goes down
south for the summer and she comes back. Her body
is right, she's amazing. She has the southern girl glow
on her now, and all the guys in the school
feel interested in her now. She has to get used
to that newfound attention, and so to us, after being
used to it and getting acclimated with what the league
feels to be the best topic of discussion, the Warriors,
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I felt like it was just water on an umbrella.
It would run off, and I don't think that they
were affected by it at all. Those guys were out
there playing basketball and they put everything on the line,
and you can't take anything away from those guys. We
just was, like I said, we were played with some
injury bugs in this final series and ended up gonna
ended up being uh the deciding factor in Toronto getting
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the nudge over us. What about the what about oracle um?
You know this was supposed to be magical the last
game there, and people thought Chris spoke beautifully yesterday about
them playing because they don't want to go out that way.
But that place has really changed. And tell me if
I'm wrong, though, but it used to be a tough
place to go there to win. But the Warriors were
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six and five this playoffs at home, lost two to
the Clippers. There we see they lost all three games
at home to Toronto. Are the rabbid fans going and
it's all the you know, rich people snooty and it's
just changed the atmosphere there are I'm mistaken. I wouldn't
disrespect them and call them snooty. Um. I just don't
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think that they're as enthused as a regular fans. My
thought and my philosophies was after game five, maybe the
front offership allocate the section two hundreds to some families
that can afford them, to the regular fans from the
era that that's going to go out there and put
their hole. Who's gonna be risk falling over the banish
the cheering farm. You know what we have to do
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under its understanding, The changing of the guard is somewhere
like when the Los Angeles Lakers left the farm and
they moved to the staple centers. Now it was it
became because now it's more profitable now and it's more
to where Chris I can accompany you to a game
and meet you, and Rob I can broker you into
this deal, this million dollar deals, this billion dollars deal.
We're not really interested in the basketball game. The only
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reason is because this is a theme and an event
that people want to say, this is where you need
to be. And so that's what the games are becoming now.
And then it's unfortunate because most of the seats that
are occupied by corporations or these multi millionaires, they're only
being going to the games to close deals out. They
really don't care about the ending of the games. All right, missus,
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val we got about thirty seconds left. How do you
think it's gonna be in San franc Cisco next year?
I mean it may in that regard, it may be
I hate to use this word, but even worse than
it was, because obviously you had a ton of fans
in Oakland and it's a whole different demographic over in
San Francisco. It's extremely hard to afford a good seat
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in the game. And I know over in San Francisco,
let me just tell you this, it's gonna be eighty
dollars to park. Wow. Park. Wow, so that's parking. Now
the a nosebleed seat is gonna be about two ten
two twenty, so you want to take Honestly, they might
not be thinking this thing through. It's too late they no,
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I know, but you know what I'm saying, fab like wow,
especially next year without k D and Clay stop it. No,
I mean they're gonna be hurt. Yeah start yeah, yeah,
yeah in the beginning of the season's till March, till
about March or April. Yeah, it's gonna be tough. It's
definitely gonna be tough. Man. And like I say, man,
it's uh, you're moving in the Silicon Valley, deeper in
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the Silicon Valley, So you're gonna have people that's gonna
buy it just because let's just say, it's gonna be tough.
It's gonna be very interesting. Um. And I just wish
that some of the people from San Francisco that are
true fans could afford the games in the Bay Area,
in the Greater Bay Area. Hopefully they have certain nights
where the lord to tickets work. The average fan can
just go watch a basketball game and enjoy your family night.
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Because of right now, it's it's it's impossible. Well, we
appreciate you so definitely, my man. Thanks for coming on
and we'll get you back on again next season when
the Warriors are rolling and then you can jump on. Rob.
Appreciate you, guys, Toronto man, Thank you guys. All right, man,
mister fib right there. Be sure to catch live editions
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of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker
weekdays at seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific. Rob Parker,
we just talked about Kawhi Leonard, MVP of the two
thousand nineteen NBA Finals, And here's the deal with Kawhi.
Let me just give view a few of his accolades
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that he did in uh in this series, or really
even in this postseason. First, for the Finals, he joined
Lebron James and Kareem Abdul Jabbar as the only players
in NBA history to win Finals MVPs with more than
one team. Lebron did it with Cleveland in Miami. Kareem
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did it with Milwaukee and lost in the Lakers. Kawai
also became the only player in NBA history to win
a Finals MVP in each conference. Now, Lebron's ever been done.
Lebron's two MVPs and the finals were both in the East.
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Kareem's in Milwaukee in LA now Milwaukee back when Kareem
one nineteen seventy two. They were in the West at
the time. Because a lot of people hit me on Twitter,
oh you made you saying something wrong on TV. People
don't me out. But people don't remember in the old days,
Chris like some letting many West Western teams and it
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wasn't that and and people don't even have any idea.
It's funny because same thing when I when I started
covering baseball, the Cincinnati Reds with the Dodgers and in
the West right for the NL West, so was the Dodgers,
Padres Uh Giants, Red and Atlanta that was the Western Atlantaions,
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but they were West Atlanta and it was weird. Say
that's amazing, but yeah, so Kawhi did that. He also
finished the postseason with seven hundred and thirty two points.
That's the third most by any player in a single postseason,
behind Michael Jordan and Lebron James. That's I mean, this
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guy had not only an amazing Finals in which he
averaged twenty eight and a half points, nine point eight rebounds,
four point two assists, two steals. He was He led
Toronto and scoring, reboundy and steals, and was second in assists.
He is at all time great you want to talk
about suitable for no question, He's an all time grade
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and I'm gonna contend Roy Parker that he is the
best he deserves. Let's put it this way. When we
had in the next season, obviously Kevin Durant is injured
and out, Kawhi Leonard has earned the right for us
to be stole on him that mythical title. It's mythical,
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but that mythical title of best player in the world. Now,
if Lebron or Hardened or someone else takes it from
him during the season or during the playoffs next year,
so be it. But he has earned the right, and
not just because he won the finals, but just because
of how great he was throughout the regular season and
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the postseason. He's earned the right, I believe, to walk
into next season viewed as the best player on the planet.
Hard to argue with that, especially when you consider some
of the other things. When you start to look deep
and you say, and we brought up a little while ago,
no lottery picks, like he took a team and he
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wasn't even Okay, no, he he wasn't either. But I'm
saying to have none of those kind of players on
a squad and still be able to deliver. This was
a team that was as disappointment a year ago that
got swept out of the playoffs. But last year, remember
they got swept and it cost Dwayne Casey's job and
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all kinds of stuff, and people question their hard and
whether you know what kind of four to two those
guys had because they seem to be spooked by Lebron
and to and to not complain or say anything and say,
you know, I'm not going to Toronto or this is
just I'm just here. They can rent me and I'm
gonna do what I gotta do and I'm out of here.
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He could have had a sticky attitude about the whole
question situation and just seven, I don't really want to
be here, but I guess I have to be here
for this year to play it. I'll play it out
and that that'll be the end of it. But that's
not what he did and and and he wasn't just
it ain't about being a cheerleader. It ain't about just
being in the right place at the right time. This
dude carried them over the top. I believe that, no question,
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no question. I'm gonna say a few things. Number one,
to your points, I don't I can't recall another player
to go to a team and in his first year
with that team lead them to a championship unless there
were other superstars. Now some will say, well, Kevin Garnett
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and Ray Allen in their first year in Boston they
won the championship two thousand and eight. Yes, they also
had Paul Pierce. That's three Hall of famers, three superstars.
Totally different. This is where people don't get it. It's
totally different. And then in nineteen eighty three, Moses Malone
went to the Philadelphia's seventy six ers led them to
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the championship the first season they had Doctor Jay and
and we're throwing Andrew Tony Maurice's cheeks, but also Rob.
That Philadelphia team without Moses had been to the NBA
Finals the year before and lost in six games to
the Lakers, So they were a great team. Who else
was on with so many other names? Bobby Jones, Steve
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Mix was he on that was on I think Mix
may have been before that. Bobby Jones was Bobby Jones,
remember him? A good team? Remember, I think that's arguably
arguably I mean I probably wouldn't pick them, but you
could argue that was the best team ever single one season.
That was a great NBA team, and they swept the
Lakers in that series. Now that's when Kareem was still
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towards the end, but in his prime. Magic of course
was smack dab in the middle of his prime. And
so that was a great Lakers team. Still Norm Nixon
and Jamal Wilkes on that team. I believe James Worthy too,
but he was hurt in those finals. And then the
second thing I've seen and you kind of alluded to it,
and I said this on Undisputed today, Kawhi Leonard showed
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us the beauty of playing the cards you're dealt, the
beauty of buying in. Like you said, Rob, he could
have went there with a with a snooty attitude and
I'm not even been so bad that, you know, not
playing wise, but just attitude wise. Try to get him.
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I don't want to trade me before the deadline to
where I really want to go and resign, you know,
But he didn't do any of that. He bought it.
He said Nick Nurse. Who knows who Nick Nurse is? Right,
freaking assistant coach last year. I don't know who he is.
I don't know if he can coach, But I'm buying in.
Kyle Lowry's upset his boy Demartin de Rose and best
friend got traded for me. But I'm buying in. Pascal
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Siakam didn't play much last year, Fred van Vleet wasn't drafted,
you know. I mean, who are these guys? But I'm
buying in. And I said this on Undisputed