Bron & The Brow are Ready to Wreck this League

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new champion and we got the champion for next year.
Ready already, that's right. You trade if you haven't heard,
if you've been living under a rock as Any Davis,
even Rob Parker is astonished. Any Davis traded to the
Los Angeles Lakers, and we are going to get into that.

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is the very plugged in, the ultra plugged then the
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so we will get to him. Keep it locked for
the next thirty minutes and also for the next three hours.
You will not be disappointed. Let me welcome in my partner,
mister Roy Parker. What's happening, brother? What's happening, mister Bissard?

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How was the weekend? The Father's Day? I hope you
will had a good one, had a great Father's Day. Actually,
I thought about you last night because we went my
my daughter and my wife and I'm with some friends.
We went to a comedy club, the laugh Actor. Are
you serious? Was it funny? Yeah? Because a friend of our,
well a childhood friend of mine, her husband is a comedian,

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David Arnold, and he performed. He's good. He was funny.
He's really good. Yeah. I mean he was one of many,
but he was one of the funniest. He did a
great job. Comedy clubs can be fun if you have
somebody who's like I've been at some someone I've been at, Well,
I'm embarrassed by the comedian, like they started doing some jokes.
You go really as far as not being funny, Yeah,

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but not being funny or just it was very vulgar. Yeah,
sometimes I think that he wasn't that bad, but just overall,
ye oh yeah, that's that's so. It was good. And
then it was a dude from Detroit, a comedian who
was good. He was good, and now you know, I
talked to him after that was good. Yeah, I pictured

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you up up there on the stage. Well, don't chicken
out on them. Of these days. I'll get it there.
We gotta do it soon. We've been saying one of
these days since the start. I just gotta can I
sign a new contract first, I'm just kidding. Just keep
it clean, you know. I just gotta go out there
and be the PG one and we'll make sure. But

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uh yeah, So also I do want to say, hey,
you know, Elijah is our social media Google. Yes, he
is the best. I gotta give you tremendous all the
stuff that goes up there. And uh he put the
uh my rendition of the of me singing the Canadian
national anthem up there and you don't even know the
responses and whatever. I know the response. I know he

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was like, don't do that to national anthem. But but yes,
so hats off to you. We appreciate you no doubt.
All right, let's welcome into the rest of the our
couple of cool. Wouldn't be able to do this fine
radio program without him on this Magic City Monday. Yes,
Rob G is our producer, Alex our engineer, Ralph Fervan
is Irving is our sports anchor. He'll keep us updated

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throughout the program for the next three hours. And of
course Ari and Jonah or our interns and Elijah on
social media Guru there all on the other side of
the glass. Chris Bussard, Let's kick some ass. Let's do
it now. You know I'm coming at you. Rob could
come at me all you gonna Let you know. I
got one thing to say to you. Pride go with

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before the fall hit it, Rob G, DJ TISCHERT time
to cool outside the metal. It's microwave take with the
anc Anthony Davis is gonna happen. You still don't believe.
I'll believe it when it happened. Where's he going? Boston? Boston?

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But what I said, when I see it, that's what
I say, said, he's going to ball. No, I did
not say, don't miss you the clip go ahead. We
don't heard the clip play again? Finished. Let me finish.
Let me finish last Friday. Oh, how the mighty half fallen?

(05:11):
That's not what I said. No, misrepresent the fighting you were,
brow I've been covering the league since nineteen eighty seven.
I know what I'm talking about. Oh you were mister
oh can Yes, you were, mister I won twenty wing beds.
You were mister all that. Oh, I mean you were

(05:34):
just you couldn't get you in the room because your
head was so big. Now look at you. I told
you pride goes before the fall? How was I in defeat?
Very humble? Congratulations Rob Parker? You had now for you?
You have no store, but you just ate it up.
You start off the show saying how you will kick

(05:55):
my took us? Well, who's to getting kicked? Now? Because
I told you were Ann'ty Davis? Who's gonna be a leader?
And you said no, No, I did not. Papa vine
Kai said, we play the clay the league. We play
the clip. I said, I believe it when I see it.
That's what I believe it. Now, Didn't I say that? Yes?

(06:17):
So now you also say did I say that? Asked?
Did I say that? Did you listen to clip? I said,
I believe it when I see it. That didn't you.
That's so little. You didn't stop. And then you said
for weekly going. I said, I think, boss. No, you
didn't say I think. But that wasn't my lord. You
asked me, were you the clip at Anthony Davis is
gonna happen? It ain't gonna happen. I still don't believe. No,

(06:38):
I'll believe it when it happened. Where is he going?
I believe it when it happened. No, no, no. I
didn't say no way, no how. If I would have
said no way, no how, you would have every right.
I'll stop. You'd have every right because there's no wiggle room.
Did I do? I have we wiggle room and it
ain't lapping wign happen. I'll believe it when I see it.
I didn't say it wasn't gonna happen. That was one

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of the four things you say. Oh but I it
ain't gonna happen. You said nope, and you said Boston.
I say, I think Bozzy. You said Boston. You asked
me where do I think? You said, well, where do
you think he's gonna say? Where? I said, I say,
where do I think he's yes, that's what you said.
You don't have the play. I just said it, Robbed,
you heard it. You heard it. Just eat your humble pie,

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I don't eat. Can you be Can you be humble?
I'm always humble. I'm the humble building. Can you admit
you a relics? Am I not mister Robbin covering? Am
I not ing the league SA nineteen eighty. I'm the
most humble guy in the building. You also walk up
and down singing O Canada. So that's all right, It's okay.
Oh come let me know that. I'm let me say

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you pound the death today and you know what they
end up in salute. I'll say this. I'll say this, Lakers,
I'm wrong because I didn't realize what collusion was involved here,
and not shame on me. I didn't realize that Rich
Paul and and Griffin, uh the former Gavid Griffin, the
former GM in Cleveland or whatever, they were all in

(08:05):
cahoots to do what's right for Lebron to help them out.
I didn't. I really did in cahoots. That's what it
reminds me. And I know Jerry West wasn't there. He
had just left Memphis when they got Pole Gasol for
for Kobe. It reminds me of that. And it's fine.
I'm traded, Danny. I'm just regarding there to Danny. I'm

(08:26):
just W McHale. H. Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah, there's
a little cahoots and I missed and I didn't understand
I shouldn't say. I really didn't think about that part
of it, okay, And so you know what, shame or
me for not looking at that all the way. So
let's get to the meat of the matter. The Los
Angeles Lakers are the favorites to win the championship right now?

(08:49):
Do you know what that means in Vegas? Though, when
they when they put those odds out that they're the favorite. No,
that not that they their favorite to win. That's not
what the odds are. It's the odds are that what
they want to do is they want to curtail you
piling up money the same way. Don't you remember two
weeks ago the Knicks were twelve to one because they
were afraid if they make the Knicks eighty to one

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or one hundred to one, where they should be, and
then they would have gotten Zion in the draft. And
then the rumors were about KD and them, So the
Knicks really weren't twelve to one, right, Yeah, but the
Lakers already have Anthony Day No, no, no, but no,
but I'm talking about it. This is how you play.
You're saying they're really not the favor No, they're not
the favorites. Well, I mean Vegas made them to face.

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Vegas just doesn't want people to pile up money. So
who else makes favorites? No, but sybody else they make.
That's not I'm trying to tell you that's asking because
I'm not a better No, it's Vegas. But but that,
but that's what it's based on. They just took they
just got so technically the favorite, they just got their
butts kicked because they made the Saint Louis Blues two
hundred and fifty to one and a guy put four

(09:52):
hundred dollars down and you know what that I went
from two hundred and fifty to one thinking that they
weren't gonna win down to like sixteen the one as
the season went on. But technically, but are the favorite? No,
not Vegas. I mean trying to get you the best.
If there's somebody else that makes favorites, like is there
somebody out there. No, that doesn't mean that they're gonna win.
The favorites doesn't mean that I mean what I'm just saying,

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it's for that's a favorite. No, it's for but la
I'm just asking. No, I'm trying to tell you they're
trying so then we should never use the term favorites.
Is that what we should? Just like they had, Just
like they had what's his name of the coach who
was supposed who's the favorite to get the Laker job
from Cleveland? Do you remember that? I'm just saying we

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just we stop using the term favorite, ty favorite? You
remember you remember that? Yeah, Tyler the favorite, Tyler get
the job. He doesn't mean that he's gonna get the job,
but everybody thought he was the favor No, but I'm
just trying to tell you, doesn't mean that that's what
that means that they're trying to hedge their bet. No,
that's what Baga's never used the term favorites anymore, because

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what you're saying, I'll get it. You could get a
guy from Vegas, get the guy from Vegas, Rob g
and they'll explain why they do what they do. It
doesn't mean that they go, what are they gonna so
what do you look? I don't know yet. They should
be the favorites right now. To use a Rod Parker
term and give you credit for this right now, because
we don't know who else. We don't know where Kawhi

(11:20):
Leonard is going. I don't know if he's staying in Toronto,
if he's going to the Clippers or somewhere else. Kevin
Durant and Klay Thompson are out next season. Klay Thompson
should be back for the final couple of months of
the season, so maybe he'll get, you know, back to
himself by playoff time. But you can't really pick the
Warriors right now. Houston Stars, and we're gonna get to this,

(11:41):
James Harden, Chris Paul or Bickering. Milwaukee's got several key
free agents, Chris Middleton, Malcolm Brogden, Brook Lopez, Nicola Merritage.
Some of them will be back, but you know, they're
an unknown. I think they still may need to take
one more season of lumps between before they're ready to
win the championship because yan Is still won't be a

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great shooter. So I'm just saying, who would I would
take at this point, we know the Lakers have two
of the top five six seven players in the league,
So right now, I'm fine with them being the favorites.
I don't believe they're the favorites. I would take Kawhi
and the Clippers over them tomorrow if but we don't know,

(12:22):
right okay, so why came to the Clippers. I would
take them right right now to be the favorites, Okay,
that's all. I would look at them, And then you
look at some of the other teams out west, the
younger guys and what they were able to do. I
don't know. Is Denver gonna be better because they had
a nice run with those young guys. Could they be
better built off of that? Maybe I'm just saying I don't.

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I don't know. I'm not I'm not ready to just
you got two things working against you with your Lakers.
Lebron James is an aging star, doesn't have the same
impact that he's had in the past. And Anthony Davis
has a history of being hurt. So I don't so
so if no more history than Kawhi Leonard, I'm just
what I'm just saying, that's just like, is that not
a fall? But why don't you hold that against next year?

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Miss twenty five games and they won a championship. Okay,
but I don't know if his injury history is actually worse.
But I don't know Anthony Davis. Yeah, but we saw Lebron.
I don't know how good Lebron is. If Anthony Davis
misses twenty five games, that's what I'm saying. I don't
know if that's Lebron was good enough to lead them
to the fourth seed before he got hurt. No, they
didn't make the playoffs, is what he led him to. Well,
he was hurt. No, that's not truly reason they wouldn't

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make the playof the only reason on your feet they
would know it's because you watched. Because you want I
follow everybody and everybody. I just go with different everybody
in this room, and we took him. If we had,
you might raise the favorite. See that you just redefined favorite.
We ask everybody to find everything these rooms to put
their hand up, whether or not I want them by

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everybody would say yes, you're the only one with your
hand on. It doesn't matter. Or somebody was going on
the street five, it doesn't matter. Because fan Dude has spoken,
Fan dude rolls with me. Fan dude rolls with Chris
Bruce hard. They're the professionals. No, they're not a professional.

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Fan dude was playing by the rules. Fan dude said, hey, Chris,
Kevin Durans out and we're not holding you. You're gonna
misrepresent fan dude. They did prop bets that included him,
didn't do bet. No, a prop bet has to do
with something that has to deal with a certain particular
situation or person. So that's why they gave people money

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back that wasn't Vegas didn't give a gun back. Everything
to do with a certain person named Lebron James. Take
him out of the equation, and you know, I'm not bad.
They're gonna make the playoffs. I want I want you
to go look at that clip, you and Katino Mobley
and who else was that Greg Jenny's That clip is

(14:55):
embarrassing when you go back and look at it. I
don't even know what when we filled it for gepping
shouting and you guys shouted me down that How dare
I think that the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs? I mean,
go look at that cliff. Of course I must get
that after cold take Lebron played when they didn't make
the playoffs. There were two games out he Rob said,
did you even playoff? Mold you remember that? To hear

(15:17):
the physical therapists Rob, she said he should have been
out six man. Yeah, pain, pain, pain. That's not Chris,
Bruce Hardy, that's not Greg Jenny's, that's not continue. Can't
count this physical therapist, a profession, can't count on her.
She gets she's a professional. Gets blah blah blah, pain pain.

(15:38):
You need to stop. No one what got get up?
It starts to loop. Can do Hey once you admit
you you you did, admit you wrong, and I'll give
you that, all right. You're turning away. In eight seven
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and Anthony Davis Wow be the favorites to win the
title next season? We will continue the conversation with you next.
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all right. It's the Eye couple on a Magic City Monday,
Chris Brussar and Rob Parker and we threw it out
to you. Vegas has spoken. Rob Parker doesn't like it,
but Vegas is Vegas. And they say the Lakers are
the favorites because they've got Lebron James and Anthony Davis.
Now it's time to find out what you think. Eight seven,

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seven ninety nine on Fox. Let's start with Enis in
New York. Enis or Ennis? I'm sorry? Am I pronouncing
it right? I'm sorry? In Nis? Yeah, he's all from
New York. What's up, buddy? Hey, what's up guys? Hey?
Just real quick, guy. I had my daughter two weeks ago.
She was just bar the gratulations, Happy Father's Day, thank you,

(18:35):
thank you, and saying to you, Chris, and you know Rob,
you know Rob, you'll appreciate this. You know. I told
her that I'm gonna do everything I could, you know,
in life, to put her through college but if I
couldn't the guy named Rob Parker, we'll put her through school.
Oh oh wow, okay, make him mail the check, not
the normal way he does it. Yeah, that's the big Daddy,

(18:56):
that's right. But anyway, no, you know what, I really
don't think they should be the favorites because it's Anthony
Davis has one like four playoff games in his whole career.
He stinks he can't lead a team to the playoffs.
He's never healthy. Lebron just got hurt. And you know,
but Lebron always needs everything stacked in his favor forming
super teams because he can't win by himself. When you

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look at up North Kawhi did it all by himself.
He's the only superstar on that team, not a single
lottery pick there. But Lebron needs everything to fall into
place in order for him to win a championship. I
couldn't say it any better man. You right on the money,
You nailed it. Just it is what it is. Appreciate.

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Let's go to Max in Daytona. BEA's day, right, that's nice.
What's going on, guys, Happy father's Days. That's why Max
was happening. Thank you, appreciate that all right, Chris Brussard.
I guess you're by yourself down there, so you're gonna
have to listen clearly, Rob, all right, So be Boston
Celtics team in two thousand and eight, this Lakers team

(20:01):
right now. And here's why. So the Lakers go from
not making the playoffs to being the favorites, and they
are the favorites to win the title. The last team
to do that in modern era was the Boston Celtics
in two thousand and eight. Miami Heat didn't do it
because they didn't win the title. The Cavaliers didn't do
it when Lebron came back. Even this Warriors dynasty made
the playoffs the year they before they broke through to

(20:23):
the Clippers. They lost to. That is the Los Angeles Lakers,
and even the roster is similar, and of course they
need to sign some role players. But Kevin Garnett went
from being an MVP in the power forward position to
want to go to a major market and win titles.
That's Anthony Davis, Lebron James better than Paul Pierce. Then
you look at ray Allen seventeen points per game that year.

(20:44):
That's Kyle Kuzma and then Rondo can actually be on
this roster as well, who we all know was on
the Boston Celtics and two thousand and eight. The Lakers
are winning this year, Rob all right, all right, Ray
in Florida, you're on with Christen Rous two thousand and
eight Celtics. Okay, guys, D having me on, I would say, definitely,

(21:06):
I agree with the Lakers being the favorite. I think
there's a lot of question marks in the West, and
even Skai went to the Clippers him and like Patrick
Beverley or Williams, so I don't think that would be
enough to stop Lebron and a D. I feel like,
right now you have to go with them. Well right,
we may get to this, but I think the Lakers
one of the guys they should go after strongly is
Patrick Beverley. Well, well, Ray, I'd say this though. I

(21:28):
think I'd say, don't pooh poo the Clippers. They made
a nice run after they gave up their best player
last year. I've traded them to Philadelphia and they made
a nice run to the playoffs, and they won two
road games in Golden State when KD was healthy. So
I'm just saying, if you add Kawhi to that team

(21:49):
with Doc Rivers and the other stuff that they have.
They have a nice little nucleus. I'm not saying that
they would definitely championship, but they would be. I think
they would be to Ronto West. They would they would be.
They wouldn't be very absolutely all right, t J and Maryland,
you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
T J? Are you guys doing the night man? Great man?
How are you man? It's been a while since I call. Yeah,

(22:12):
I know where you've been. J when you got a
job in the family. Na, No, no, no, you know,
just listen to you know, some old school R and V,
you know, and trying to get back to my rooms.
I'm twenty years old, so you're twenty. You sound like
a mature man. Sound older than twenty. Dude could be
because after what I said about Anita Baker, you know,
how to you know, we think, you know, talk old

(22:34):
school's old school R and B to U Usher. I'm
just having you twenty. I need, I need, I need
a bakery stuff. Okay, what's your point? So my take is, uh,
I hate to say arrived the Lakers. They're looking pretty good.
When these are being champions just come season because uh,

(22:58):
because you know Golden States are coming, you know, with
injuries Houston, I don't know what they're gonna do with
the roster in Portland. Can they be the same? You
can either, you know, say that about the Nugets, because
the Nuggets were impressive until yorkis choked in the fourth
quarter of not MISSI those free tools and so now
look there's a lot of question marks. Rob would you

(23:21):
admit this right now? It looks like the league is
gonna be more wide open than we've seen it in
more than a decade. Well, yeah, till you got a
team that you had one team before this past year
had gone what eight years in a row essentially Lebron
right in Miami in Cleveland, right, and then you had

(23:42):
Golden States to stay with five years in a row.
So yeah, I mean, I don't think we can look
at anything and we just don't know yet, you know
what I mean, even even with Toronto where they wind
up what they do. I can't look at Toro. I
don't say they're gonna win again. I mean, they had
a very miracle run. Everything worked out, they just played well.
I don't know, if that marriage. Yeah, that's my point
is that with what we know at this moment, which

(24:04):
is we don't know where the Kawhi Leander's going. Yeah,
I think the Lakers should be the favorite. All right.
The Lakers just landed Anthony Davis, of course, but it
is a third star on the way as well. Brad
Turner from the La Times has the inside scoop next.
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(24:50):
what's happened? What's happening? Man? Look, the I couple is
awake after that long weekend that Rob Parker had shot.
Even though it's folly thirty five, I'm shot. Rod Parkers
is alive and doing well. I'm all right, I'm hanging in.
Must have slept about noon that they I bet he
probably did. I did sleep a little longer than normal,

(25:10):
no doubt about it. Will BTU break this down for us? Now,
there's all the cap room. You know, we know the
deal they got Anthony Davis to go with Lebron. Do
you think they're more likely to use that remaining cap
room on a third superstar or to split it up
and you know, get two or three guys that they

(25:34):
can put around A d and Lebron. Well Man, that's
an interesting question in a lot of different ways. Number One, First,
will they have the full thirty two point seven million
to spin? That's the biggest question, Kenning. And that's a lot.
There's a lot that has to happen for that too. Yeah, right, yes,

(25:55):
And if they do, say, let's just say for this EXERCISEE,
they do have that to spend. Okay, does that mean
for sure Kylerie is coming here, Kawhi is coming here?
And we don't know who would come here? I mean
Clay is gonna be his hurt, KD is hurt? So

(26:16):
will someone take that money? Number One that we wouldn't know.
Most likely scenario becomes that they don't have that money
to spend that the most they can have would be
by twenty seven million dollars. The lower money wave that
four million. It's easy for me to play with his money.

(26:38):
But yo, yo yo, that's his money right now. For podcast,
I ain't giving my time up. But if they want it,
you know, they need to add some more players. Man, Look,
don't get them. Do your job, Rod Pelinka. Get me
my money in my pocket, because once that money goes away,
it does not come back. That's the way a lot
of these guys think. Honest, You're right, they think that way.

(27:01):
So let's just go with the low end of twenty
three million dollars, said Rich Paul. I'm sorry, which one
did you say? Well, Rich Paul, of course, make sure,
all right, Pope getting that whole twenty three million, right.
I think if you have that millions, I'm going to

(27:22):
cover the boy scout. No, But I say the prudent
thing to through it is to split it up that
you said, Chris, to go out and try and get
two really good sided players to clear with two of
the best players in the NBA. All right, Rob alluded
to it is there concern within the organization, or maybe

(27:44):
even just a willing handoff to Rich Paul. I mean,
we look, they got Lebron. You know, Rich is his agent.
I'm not gonna say it was because of Rich because
that that was just Lebron's decision. But now Rich Paul
clearly helped you get answer any dates, right, Rob Perlinkol
gets zero credit? Is there concerned that Rich is gonna

(28:05):
have an inordinate amount of power in the organization? Are
already done? He already does? To me, it looks like it.
What about a It looks like he already does. But
I would say that the reason why he didn't add
to his powers because the number fourth pick in the
grad has assumed its going to be Darius Garden from Vanderbilt,

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and that is rich Paru's client. Rich Paul was pushing
for the Lakers not to create the pick, so therefore
they would then grabbed his client. So if all those
factors are true, then they sort of pull back from
him getting everything he wants. He's got enough, I mean,
it's beyond he has two of the best players in

(28:50):
the league that his clients, right, and so at some
point the Lakers decided we would do what's best for
the franchise for our team, and we would keep called
Kuzma and we're willing to give up the fourth pick.
Not saying that the audience once Darius Garden from vandybuild,
but we know he's being the most talked about guy

(29:10):
and he is his agent is Rich Paul. To your
point again, bt uh Rich also wanted ty Lewis the coach.
So while he obviously has some power, will but the shower.
But the difference there is that the Lakers didn't want
to pay five didn't want to give him five years,
and all the other coaches was running it. Yeah, but
that I mean, that's a money thing. I could see

(29:31):
where they're not going to do that. But I'm thinking
that he has a little more power. But it's all good. Um.
Also with the where are you bteacher? The Lakers basically
just gonna play out the season because they're gonna win
the championship? Right is that what we are? Well, right now,
they only got five players on the roster. They don't
need they don't need anybody else. Everybody's telling me they're

(29:51):
gonna win. I mean, you know how it is, bt,
I'll put it this way. Do they have a chance
to win once they put a team together. Yes, but
so do the them with Nuggets, who are young, hungry
and very good and deep and talented. So I'm not
going to rule out the Portland Trail. That's a good team.

(30:12):
You gotta get by them despite what's going on down there,
and he used to and a lot is going on.
They had one of the best back horses in the league.
You can't say there, don't they won't have a chance, right,
you can't pop h I agree with you that it's
all over, you know, and you can't give up an
Oklahoma city. So their teams out there, they have to
get by. And even Old Golden State has Katie hurt

(30:37):
and he may leave, and Claire's hurt, he may not play.
They will be formidable if you think there will be
an easy walkover. So a walk to the compass to
the NBA Finals by the Lakers is far up from dumb.
The couple were on with Lakers beat writer Brad Turner
for the Los Angeles Times. Brad last thing I was

(30:58):
sold late last week that if Anthony Davis goes to
the Lakers, Kawhi Leonard will seriously, like seriously consider the
Lakers like he very much would want to come here. Now,
let's assume they have the max copspace. Damon Jones plugged
in player, good friend of Lebron James was coaching, you know, Damon,

(31:22):
he said it today on ESPN that Kawai's in the mix.
Have you heard again, assuming they have the Max, I
don't think he's coming anyway. But I don't certainly don't
think he's coming if it would be less than the max,
if they could get max cop space. What are you
hearing if anything in terms of Kauai wanting to play
with the Lakers. Well, I haven't heard anything about him

(31:48):
wanting to come here except to play for the Clippers.
That's the team I keep hearing about. The Lakers have
been on the peripheral. They had a full chance at
getting him there when Magic was still there. Now, having
said that, Magic is still involved in this on the outside,
so he's still trying to help him get you guys.

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But I was looking at this quiet quote from the
parade we talked about it was a good experience experiencing
Mother's nature all four seasons in Toronto. To me, that
said a little bit about the guy. Maybe Toronto has
a chance to keep him there because he didn't mind
the snowiest right, it wasn't as bad as he thought,

(32:31):
you know what I mean. Sure he didn't go anywhere.
I mean the guy that we played when't played basketball,
when made video games like they all do. And that
was it. So that was a telling comment to me
to hear him say that. So we don't know where
he's going. He may stay up there, maybe lacks it
up there. Maybe he's now like he's a king of Canada.

(32:51):
No do you mean prime minister right? Oh no, I'm
just well Prime Minister, King, President, I got whatever he
wanted to be whatever, who are no doubt about it.
It's the great Brad Turner man. We appreciate the knowledge
that brother. Thank you. The couple a rod Stila man,
I'm all right, I'm good. Come on, I got two
and a half hours ago. All right, thank you, buddy.

(33:16):
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the Toronto Raptors had their parade today to celebrate their
first ever NBA championship and one and a half million
fans packed into downtown to Ronto. And in many ways

(34:04):
it was fantastic. In other ways it was horrible. And
what happened is four people were shot. Four people shot
and wounded. None of them are believed to be life
threatening injuries, thank god, thank god. But still the fact
that four people got shot there is just it's just

(34:26):
ridiculous and so um. Like we said, some people just
don't know how to handle success. Why, Rob, do you
think we see this at times? Whether I know in
Detroit they've burnt cars. Well back then they were just
trying to stay warm. You know, it was chilly there.
But you know the Lakers when the Kobe Shocks era,

(34:49):
when they first won the championship, robed you what happened.
They were burning cars, they were flipping over you know,
news stands, breaking glasses, people got st that. The Eagles,
to my goodness, I think what it is is that
and my daughter went to that Eagles celebration in Philadelphia. Yeah,
not that she's Eagles, but you know, it was just

(35:10):
right right, everybody's going right, I got it. But I
think what it is is, you you know, in society,
you have some people who are just rabble rousers and
any excuse they can get to do some harm and
cause some mischief they're going to do and they look

(35:31):
at this as a great opportunity to right, That's exactly
what it is, Chris, I totally agree. It's one of
those things where you can get to cause some mayhem
in a big crowd. You know, it's like the like
people are talking about the mob mentality. Normal people wouldn't
do what they do, but then all of a sudden,
there's a group of people and you go like, oh yeah,

(35:52):
let's flip the Hey, come on, let's flip this call over.
You wouldn't do it by yourself, It wouldn't do it
with your buddy. But if there's twenty of fifty people
there and you're drinking and carrying on. Uh yeah. But
you know what I'm gonna say this, there's something. There
was one thing that bothered me when I watched a
parade and I don't want to sound like an old man.

(36:14):
I don't what you are, so what you sound like?
What you are right where it with pride, But but
I gotta admit you're old. Seeing Kawai smokers cigar bothered
me a little bit, and not because I'm some prude
or people don't have a right to celebrate or do
what they want. He's a grown man. He's not doing
anything illegal. But a lot of kids are watching and

(36:37):
they emulate these athletes, whether you want to believe it
or not, whether you think you're a role model or not.
And I just saw that and thought, I bet you
there's some kids today. He's like, Kawhi is my favorite player.
He's cool. Did you see him smoking a cigar? He
didn't take one paw from a glass of champagne. I
mean he's sitting there like knocking it off. Well, here's

(36:59):
the only thing. I don't smoke. But here's the only thing.
Michael Jordan. I'm looking at all these pictures of Jordan
in the locker room at the parades smoking cigars after
they win Lebron a cigar and I don't know if
he's smoking it, but there's a picture of cigar in
his mouth after they won their championship. So Kauhi certainly

(37:19):
not the first. No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm just saying that that's what I looked. That's what
bothered me when I saw it. And I think you
talked about off the air. We were just talking too,
is when Lebron wanted to use some foul language and
there were kids there. Yeah, and a friend of mine
left to Yeah. I mean, and do you understand you

(37:42):
understand that as a parent, right, there's certain things you
it's okay, and I think you gotta you gotta look
at it. You like to have some type of decorum
in certain positions, certain situations. Uh. And the cigar, again,
I didn't see it. I don't know how much he
was smoking. It was really fun standing on him. It
wasn't like just a shot of everybody. It was like

(38:04):
straight on him and he's just like really puffing, and like, oh,
he's really enjoying it, you know what I mean. I
was on the top. That's one of those things that
people kind of expect. So I don't know if kids
look at it like, oh, wow, he's smoking, I want
to do that. They may just look at that as
kind of part of the celebration. I don't think you
need to curse him. That's something where why you don't

(38:26):
have to Right, it's a PG event. There's time comedy show,
the Shop or what I am? Yeah, I agree with
you on Remember the shop is HBO. You gotta pay
for it. It comes on last night. There's a lot
of things that kids won't see it, right, right, all right,
all right, maybe I am an old man. I couldn't

(38:46):
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with the NBA. But moved to a team that a
good number of people thought would win the championship this year.

(39:31):
And it wasn't the Golden State Warriors or people thought
after last year, Remember they lost in seven, so they
figured they'd come back this year. Chris Paul was hurt
for that game. Houston Rockets. Yeah, with Houston, right, and
I think people did think that that maybe, okay, this
will be the next they'll take that next step. It
didn't happen. I thought they got worse, especially losing to

(39:51):
Golden State. Once kd got hurt, I was a shot.
And you know what, Okay, they lost that game in
Golden State, but then they went home right for game
six to force the game seven, and they just couldn't win. Yeah,
and now there's a story today. You know. Look, let's
just backtrack a bit. Everything looked great for the Rockets.

(40:14):
As you said. They took the Golden State Warriors with
the healthy Kevin Durant to seven games, had them down
three two, Chris Paul gets hurt, they can't close the deal.
So this year, with Chris Paul healthy, the thinking was
that the Rockets really have a great shot at beating
Golden State. So they're playing Golden State in the second round.

(40:36):
We thought this was most people thought this was the finals.
Ye okay, and Kevin Durant goes down in game five.
Series is tied to two, and the Golden State Warriors
go on without Kevin Durant to not only win Game five,
but also obviously win games. And don't forget this, Charles

(40:58):
Barkley after that, right, I didn't he go and say
that they they Golden State can't win without Kevin Durant.
Remember that? And then they went to Houston in one
game six pretty easily. I don't, I ain't They won
that pretty easily. Steph Kirby put on the show thirty
three points in the second half and the rest is history.

(41:18):
So now after that, Chris Paul and James Harden there
two superstars were seen having exchanging harsh words as they
walked off the court. Now, in fairness, that's not a
big deal. You know, we've exchanged harsh words, you and I.
You know, it doesn't mean you don't like each other,

(41:39):
that you can't work with each other. It's the heat
of the moment, right in a sport, you can't buy
into all of that. Some of the greatest teams that
have ever been around. You don't think Wade and Lebron
everyone at it. You know, of course, saw the Reggie
Jackson Yankees have fights. Ye in the dugout during the
game and they won championship. Player player player manager right, right,

(42:03):
so that you can't always assume that that means guys
don't get along, and so on and so forth. However,
there's a story today in on ESPN dot com by
Tim McMahon, great story, very in depth. Here's one quote
by a high ranking Rocket source. Since there's too much

(42:23):
damn turmoil, there's some hard feelings right now everywhere speaking
of the organization, and the bulk of the issue seems
to be between James Harden, according to this story, and
Chris Paul, and they are. Chris Paul apparently, again, according

(42:46):
to this story, is upset because there's not enough ball
movement and player movement. James Harden apparently is like, whatever, dude,
you you're not as good as me. Just just chill.
Let me do my thing. Rob, Do you have the quotes, Rob,

(43:08):
G I got a couple of. What one of that
stood out to me was a source told Tim ac
Man of ESPN in the article Chris wants to coach James.
I mean, Chris Paul wants to coach James Harden. That's
one of the knocks on him is that he thinks
he's the coach in general. But then right, and then
the quote continues, but James looks at him like, you
can't even be your man, just shut up and watch me. Yeah,

(43:33):
and that sums it up. Now. I like James Harden
even more if we want to ask whose side are
you on? Not did you have to pick a side?
But I do have a side. And look, James Harden
is phenomenal. James Harden is one of the best players ever. Okay,
he is a tremendous player, and he's better than Chris
Paul at this point right now, no question, right now,

(43:56):
all right. However, I am with Chris Paul in this regard,
in this situation. When I watched the Houston Rockets the
last two years, particularly this past season, I sat there
and I said, I said to myself, Chris Paul has
willingly made himself a role player for the sake of

(44:19):
trying to win a championship. Because Chris Paul isn't being
utilized to his best abilities. He's a role player. Everybody is,
and it's James Harden show. And Chris Paul seemed to
be going along with that. I gave him props for that. However,
if you don't win, I understand why a guy who's

(44:41):
gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer, one of
the best point guards ever to play, says, Okay, we
tried it this way. I tried it this way. It
doesn't work. It's not going to get us the ring.
So now, why don't we incorporate more ball and player
movement and not just be the James Harden show. Of course,

(45:03):
James still gonna be the star, gonna be the leading scorer,
but we've got to get more guys involved if we
hope to win a championship. So I am fully behind
Chris Paul in that regard. Rob, I totally disagree with
Chris Paul from this stampoint. You're not gonna teach an
old dog new tricks. This is James Harden, this is
who he is, and you might you might as well

(45:24):
say Trey James Harden and do something different, because it
ain't gonna happen. Chris. You can see it in all
that ball movement and whatnot. Let's not rewrite history from
this stampoint. Two years ago there were Game seven with
a chance to get the matter. Well, but you could
say it doesn't matter. It doesn't. I'm not it doesn't.
I'm not gonna go there. And and Chris have taken.

(45:46):
Chris gonna lead, Chris, Paul's gonna lead the way, and
they want to They wants the third guy to get
more touches. And James Harden should score eighteen points a
night and pass the ball, and it's not gonna happen, Mike,
and Tony's not gonna all of a sudden also, and
still a defensive scheme because he's never done it, so

(46:06):
that's not gonna happen. Pretty decent defense still, but it
still ain't good enough. And all I'm saying is he's
never done it, and I don't expect it to change.
So that sounds good. I get it. You went out
earlier than you did or expect it because it was
wound up being you played in the second round instead
of the Western Conference finals. So everybody goes, oh, this
thing is broken. They're gonna be get those players back

(46:29):
and add maybe another player or so they'll be right
back in the mix of those guys play up their potential.
They're not done, but they gotta they're not done. Here's
the thing, Rob, I disagree with you. On this point.
Number one, This is not just James Harden. James Harden
has not played this way for the bulk of his career.

(46:49):
James Harden is a very skilled, smart, versatile basketball player.
When he was in Oklahoma City, he came off the bitch.
Now obviously he's not He's not gonna do that now
he's a young yeah, but still so was Westbrook and Durant,
and he accepted his role. He was more of a playmaker,
only average less than seventeen points a game. And then

(47:10):
when he went to Houston, he had Dwight Howard and
he shared the basketball. He averaged like twenty six points
a game, and he got, you know, go to the
Western Conference Finals. They went as far as they're going now.
They get to the Western Conference Final. They got beat
down by Golden State, but they did get to the
Western Conference Final. So my point is he doesn't have

(47:34):
to play to this extreme. That's all Paul saying. Nobody
expects him to average eighteen points a game. You want
Harden to do his thing because he's one of the
best ever to do it. But his usage rate has skyrocketed,
particularly the last two seasons. He led the league in
usage rate the last two seasons. This year it was
an astronomical forty point five percent usage rate. What happens

(47:59):
in the playoffs, You're too predictable. Everybody knows what you're
going to do. And a one man show, this is
my main contention. A one man show, no matter how
great that one man is, is not going to win
consistent championship chain. He've been disappointing. If you want to

(48:23):
be little Chamberlain was the best one man show ever.
Can you give one two championships? Lebron James one of
the best one man shows every I think that's why
Lebron hasn't won more because you it's he's the system.
We talked about it all the time. He's the system.
I think you're better off fitting in Kawhi Leonard fit
into the Raptors system. So there were moments where Siakam

(48:46):
took over, Van Fleet took over. You know several Sergeant
Baka took over, and say it seemed at times you
didn't even know Kawuhi was out there. Let me say
this's about the Chris Paul. The last year he shot
forty one percent from the field, not good, and he
had the second most turnovers in his career, so he
didn't play up to par so a lot of it.
I can get that. Well, I'll give you that, which

(49:08):
is fine. I understand what you're saying the main thing.
But I mean, if I'm Chris Paul, I have to
play better. I have to play better, whatever that means.
But he thinks he can, and I think he's right.
You're not allowing him to do what Chris Paul does.
But turning two guard turning the ball over nothing to
do with James Harden shooting too much or well, if

(49:28):
his role is different, Chris is playing like they got.
He has a two guard all right, but he's still
turning the ball over too much. But not a ton,
not nearly a second. The second motion is yeah, but
that's because he's never turned the ball over a lot.
That's one of his claims the fame that he's very
much careful with the basketball is that second turnovers did
he average this year? But a lot because he never

(49:50):
turns it over. No, but there's not a lot of
turn but he had. But that's the second motion because
he's in a different role. Now, I'm not choosing Chris
Paul over James Harden. I know if it comes down
to one or the other, I'm riding with Harden. But
I think they should tweak the offense and get more
movement among the players and the ball. That's all I'm saying.

(50:14):
I mean, it's gonna be to a large degree James
Harden based, but you you're not going to win it
if it's all on his shoulders. You're just not Yeah,
I'm not, I hear you. But I just think that
the Washington Houston, I should say, needs to just basically

(50:36):
they have to play better. It's more about playing better.
I do believe they were a close Chris, I got it.
They did this year. They went on the second round
because they met Golden State in the second round. But
I'm not. I'm not here to say, oh, it doesn't work.
How many games did they win this year? Was a
sixty or fifty five or I mean they had a

(50:56):
regular season game. No, I'm just saying, but it wasn't
like what they washed out. That's all I'm saying. It
wasn't like they totally washed out. You are always mister
championship you, but I'm not. They won fifty three games.
I was close between but you're you're always bottom line,
you're always getting a short menu. A short menu is sport. Okay,

(51:19):
what's their menu? Saying oh no, but I'm not buying
into that. You're gonna do this overhaul with Kevin Duran,
But shouldn't Nate? Shouldn't Nate a jest tweak the style
of play. No, I think that, I know, I think
them anywhere. I think they need to get better. They
need to do some more stuff. They lost some some

(51:41):
really good defensive players who they lose last year. Well,
you know what, the Golden State Warriors lost Kevin Durant
a reason and they lose the Kevin Durant. No, but
the reason was the reason. I'm bringing up Kevin Durant.
You're bringing up Trevor a reason. But he was a
good defensive player for that team. Would you disagree he
as good as Kevin Duran. I'm just saying they fit.
They replaced it with can He Jake told they should
have beaten you know, they should have been Golden State.

(52:03):
They let steps they should have No, he did this though,
he rolled in chest out because it was funny. Go
all of a sudden, taking over all of a sudden.
Toronto played a little defense on him and he couldn't
make a defense. Great deed to make shots when nobody's
on you and you're getting guarded by the Washington generals.

(52:23):
So then let let them. So now the Rockets who
don't need to change the thing are the Washington didn't
say that. I didn't just called the Washington They played
like the Washington generals and change anything. Yeah, but I'm
not saying. What I'm saying is this drastic like they
need to reinvent the wheel. I'm not asking James Harden
to be somebody else. I'm not buying that. Rob When

(52:45):
is this style everyone? I don't know, but that's the
only way that they're gonna be able to win. They're
not gonna wheel all right, then you need to get
rid of it. If you say that, then get rid
of hard. No make a train. He rid hard enough
basketball players where he but at this point, not the
way he's had six Is he gonna go and somebody
gonna let him have a forty percent us somebody else

(53:07):
might let him do it. I'm just telling you he's
not gonna change what he's been doing. He had the
highest scoring average. Differently at the highest scoring average since
Michael Jordan. Uh, this past year, all of a sudden,
you're gonna say, you know what, thirty six is too much,
get twenty six and we'll play it like that. Jackson
said to Michael Jordan, I'm just saying. And it worked

(53:27):
because when Michael Jordan average thirty seven points, they didn't
win nothing. And then he went down the water, he
went down to thirty two. Okay, he really took a bite.
He's Michael Jordan. But that is the difference. He did
share the basketball. He Phil Jackson showed him, how if
we keep being Michael Jordan left, Michael Jordan, right, Michael

(53:48):
Jordan all the time, we're not gonna win championship. In
this Fichael started sharing the ball, playing within the system,
and they won six. But in this whole five year
can do that by the Warrior's the only team that
that really had a chance to beat them. Well, Houston
doesn't matter, change saying nobody else. So other clues, horseshoes
and hand grenames and pregnancies, those three don't forget that.

(54:11):
That is true. Nah, that's true. Those three all right
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nine six sixty three sixty nine do the Rockets need
to change. I say tweak, don't change totally. What tweak
their style of play in order to win a championship.

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(55:39):
Rockets need to tweak their style? Or in other words,
whose side are you on? Chris Paul? I want more
ball movement, more player movement. I would need to be
more involved, or James Harden shut up and watch me work,
or Chris Paul I needed to cut down on the
turnovers and shoot better for seven point six saying let's

(56:02):
start with Jesse and that's not good. You're on with
the eye cover. Hey guys, first off, I want to
say that you guys make my right home to work awesome.
So I appreciate it. Thank you, man, You appreciate you
really do. That's nice. Thank you. Secondly, uh, I think
Chris Paul needs to get a time machine and go
back to Los Angeles and wait for Lebron to get

(56:23):
there because him and Harden just aren't a good match.
They both need the ball in their hands to do
their best work. I don't think there's any tweaking or
anything you can do within the within with those two
two guys to make it work. Uh, that's all I
got to say, guys. No, that's a good point point
got together. People questioned whether or not they were a
good match. Am I right? Queer? Yeah? I questioned that

(56:45):
was right out there. A lot of NBA people are like,
is it I understand you want to add Chris Paul,
but is that really the right guy? No question, it
wound up. Maybe it's not. It looked all right at
first when they, you know, went to game seven or
three two with Paul healthy. But he's on this too.
He's definitely Quincy in Indiana, You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Quincy? Hey? What's up? Guys?

(57:07):
Y'all doing a lot of show. Thank you, buddy. I'm
actually at late Charles Louisiana. Oh wow, I got family
down there. Oh really, that's what's up? Man? Well, I
do want to make a quick point. If you remember
a time ago, Kobe Bryant did say that the Staller
plays of the Rocket Room will and I win. That's right,
he did, and even Kobe had to change in start

(57:30):
to win a championship. So I'm on the side of
Chris Paul. Yeah. It's Look, James Harden is clearly the
better player. We just have never seen a one man
show win a championship. I mean, you need to involve
your teammates. The closest thing would be Rick Berry in
nineteen seventy five with the Golden State Warriors. He averaged

(57:52):
thirty points a game. His closest teammate was about fourteen
points a game, so he was amazing. But that all
so was when the leagues were broken up. You had
the ABA and the NBA, so you didn't have all
the best players in the world playing as well. Right,
it was totally It was a totally different era of basketball.
Good car Quins. Lets you in Australia. We love the

(58:14):
folks down under. Jared, what's happening jentlemen? Always? Today? Man? Great?
What time? What time is it? Where? Where exactly do
you live in Australia? I live in Melbourne. It is
ten thirty I am on Tuesday morning. Wow. I was
unbelievable at Melbourne. Great city. My trip there. I have

(58:35):
to come again because I didn't go to the West Coast,
I didn't go to Perth and whatnot. I just did
uh Sydney, Melbourne Camera. But it was a great trip
and I ate so much. Lamb man, I love it
all right, that's good I uh uh, Look, you can't
expect Chris Paul to be good when you take away
the two best things that he was good at, pick

(58:58):
and roll at mid range. The system that Dan Tony
runs doesn't suit Chris Paul. So I think that they
need I don't know what they're gonna do because they
can't them lost into Chris Paul. Now that's the problem. No,
that's a good point. It's a great point. And Rob
I didn't agree with this. Dan Tony doesn't want mid
range shots. He doesn't. He wants all threes or all

(59:19):
pain shots. And Chris Paul his bread and butter throughout
his career off as far as scoring, has been to
mid range jump shot. And think about this is the
tame team that missed twenty seven three points in a row. Yeah,
you know what I mean when they lost. So I
agree with I'm just saying the tweet. I mean, you know,
you're only gonna be able to change it so much,
but they need that was that was my point. Is

(59:41):
that not gonna be like, oh wow, this is a
different team to a whole system. No way. All I
appreciate it, Jared, thank you. Let's go to Marty in
Kentucky Marty one with christ and Rob. What's up Chris
and the Pope? Rob Parker Happy Magic City Monday. That's right, man,
thank you. I'm the educating women ten dollars at a time. Well,

(01:00:03):
I'm gonna stuck. I'm gonna say that I believe the
Houston rook it's need um. Hello, can we lose you Marty? Okay,
go ahead, Marty. Yeah you hear me. Now we got you.
You guys hear me? Yes, all right. I'm not a
fan of the coach. I think we get a new

(01:00:27):
count I think Houston gets a new coach and gets
a leader. It doesn't make excuses and sets a better
example for the team. I think Harden needs to keep
committing to getting better on defense, and they need to
pick up some guys to keep let them guys sit
on the bench a little bit more and get some
minutes because they look really tired late in the fourth
quarter of playoff games. Yeah, they it's hard to argue

(01:00:50):
with any of that. You know, their defense actually picked
up over the second half of the season. It'll be
interesting now that they have almost a whole new assistant
coaching staff. Yeah, they got rid of everybody let's go
to Steve and two signs. Steve, you're on with Chris
and Rob. Hey, guys originally from bed Stop Brooklyn's or
a big Nick famble. When it comes to CP three,
he knew what he was stepping into. This is his

(01:01:13):
last big contract. This is the same offensive ran in
Phoenix where Nash dribbled the ball for twenty one seconds
and either shot it or past it. Chris is too old,
He's had a lot of injuries. He's got a huge contract.
Houston ain't got no draft picks to throw in with
that contract. He's just gonna have to deal with it.
And I'd love to hear what you guys got to

(01:01:34):
say about my Knicks, because I'm thinking about Julius Randall
for the past couple of weeks at the power forward spot.
And just keep rebuilding and do not sign KD unless
you can put him on the shelf for a good price.
I'll tell you one thing, the Knicks are gonna wind
up being ass out. That was its look. Chris is

(01:01:54):
looking that way. I don't know what's going on, but
I don't know they went from two weeks should go
with where did he get zion? With the first pink
and uh right, So now on the outside looking in, No,
and look, Julius Randall had a nice little season. But
if that's your prize, that ain't enough. That ain't enough.

(01:02:17):
All right, there's one clear loser to Anthony Davis trade.
Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer Chris Mannix will explain next,
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the National Basketball Association. He is Sports Illustrated senior NBA
writer Chris man Is Chris, what's happening? What's going on? Guys?
Are you glad Man? Now? You you are, obviously you
cover the whole league, but you're very close of the

(01:03:00):
Celtics organization. So let's talk about this Anthony Davis trade
to the Lakers from Boston's perspective. You think this has
been a rough week for the Celtics, kind of explained
that to us. I mean, look, they have spent the
better part of the last two years collecting assets in
the pursuit of Anthony Davis. They fully believed that he

(01:03:23):
would be a Celtic at some point, and if he
flashback as recently as mid season, they still were believing that.
But the deterioration of the relationship between Boston and Kyrie
Irving and the fact that they would have had to
dig all the way into their war chest of assets
to get Anthony Davis, who's who had made it clear

(01:03:44):
through Rich Paul that he was only going to be
a rental with the Celtics. It forced their hand and
forced them to sit out these Anthony Davis talks. And now,
without Anthony Davis and you know, Kyrie Irving I believe
will be gone shut after July first, they're now kind
of in this strange state. Not a terrible position to

(01:04:06):
be in because they still have the young talents that's
on the roster, but certainly not the position that they
had hoped to be in. Do you think they should
have gone in and tried to call Anthony Davis's bluff
if indeed it was a bluff, And you know, done
what Messiah Jerry in Toronto did and saying Presty and
Oklahoma and just tried to convince him over a year
to stay. No, too risky to me, Chris, because you

(01:04:29):
look at the position the teams that you mentioned were
in at the time. Oklahoma City needed to make that
deal as a karrot to Russell Westbrook to show Westbrook
that they were serious and get his name on a
contract extension, and he signed on for a multi year extension.
Shortly after that Paul George trade in Toronto, they were
pretty much done. Messiah Jerry was done being a middle

(01:04:52):
of that pack playoff team. They didn't have any room
for improvement organically with that group, at least not to
a championship level. And if you know Massi, he's been
kind of itching to rebuild anyway. I mean, Dwayne Casey
just kind of stopped them for rebuilding by winning a
year after year. They've been kind of itching to do
a rebuild there regardless. So if they have to, I

(01:05:14):
don't think it's the worst thing in the world for
the Celtics. Though they've got a marquee young player in
Jason Tatum, they've got a very good one in Jaylen Brown,
They've got Gordon Hayward, They've got Al Horford, they might
get Tera Rose year back. They still have the pieces
I think to be a top four team in the
Eastern Conference, with room to grow depending on what happens

(01:05:35):
to the other teams that are around them. So for Boston,
it was just too big a risk to take, given
Davids a circumstance, what happened in Boston with kywe and
just you know about things when a ry not that,
not that I ever believed or he never committed to
the Celtics even before the season. He was smart. He

(01:05:55):
didn't want people ask him questions the whole year about
all you resigned, So he said, hey, I'm staying. I'll
be here if they want me, I plan on being here.
He never said I'm gonna be here no matter what
he said, I plan on being here if they want
me back. But what went wrong, Well, I mean you
could write a whole book on what went wrong, because
the season was a disaster from basically start to finish.

(01:06:17):
But I think it boils down to a couple of things. One,
his relationship with the young players on the roster was awful.
Whether it was I think Jaylen Brown, who was probably
the worst with I don't think it was great with
Jason Tatum. Terry Rogier, certainly it was. It was awful
because you know, Terry was being supplanted at a position

(01:06:39):
he felt that he had done enough to win in
that past year, So that created a pretty nasty atmosphere.
His leadership skill were lacking. I think that's fair to
say given everything that happened all season long. He wanted
to be in a position to lead. He was placed
in a position to lead, and he failed at it.
He tried a bunch of different things. He tried tough love,

(01:07:00):
he tried saying, you know, remain calm all is well.
None of it seemed to work. And I think the
other part of it was he was the first player
to be coached by Brad Stevens that didn't really enjoy
being coached by Brad Stevens. That relationship wasn't solid for
most of the season, didn't finish solid at the end
of the season. I mean I wrote this earlier in

(01:07:22):
the year and it still stands true now. Brad Stevens
is a coach that believes in the process, that likes
every regular season game to mean something and to build
towards the postseason. Kyrie Irving his formative years were spending
Cleveland where the regular season was little more than an
annoyance to that team. They just wanted to be done
with so they could get to the playoffs and play

(01:07:44):
for them for a champaid that last year, didn't he
here do? Was one point he was, I just want
the playoffs to get here. Say that repeatedly. He said
it repeatedly during the year. But that's not how Brad
Stevens operates. Which makes it interesting to spend it us
for Ford a bit. But it makes interesting if it
is Brooklyn and I think there I was talking to somebody,
you know that's familiar with the Nets organization today. They

(01:08:06):
believe that it's happening. If it is Brooklyn is basically
Boston life right. Got a bunch of young team players
out there. And Kenny Atkinson, who is a reasonable fac
simile to Brad Stephens. He is a coach that believes
in the process, in development. If it's Kyrie and like Durant,
even without Durant playing next year, I get it. If
it's just Kyrie, I don't. Yeah, I'm with you and

(01:08:28):
we're joined by Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer Chris Mannix.
I'm with you, Chris. Going to Boston Brooklyn by himself
from a basketball standpoint, to me, makes absolutely no sense.
You might as well stay in Boston. I'm gonna throw
out something to you. And this isn't something I've heard anywhere.
It's just kind of my own idea, and I want

(01:08:49):
you to tell me is this realistic or anyway something
like this? And what it is is I've learned to
ignore Robber. But anyway, so we know that Kyrie and
Kevin Durant are very close. They've been talking about trying
to play together, whether it's with the Knicks, whether it's
with Brooklyn whatever. What about the based on the premise

(01:09:13):
that it makes no sense to go to Brooklyn by yourself,
what about if Kyrie spoke to Durant about, look, would
you play in Boston? And if Durant's willing to play
in Boston presented like a sign in trade where you
all those young players that Kyrie had issues with, they

(01:09:34):
could be traded to Golden State for Kevin Durant. And
I think the Warriors, if they're gonna lose KD they do,
it would add to their depth. It'd be good for them.
And Danny Ain't seems to be the type that, yeah,
you wouldn't have him for a year, but when Durant's back,
you might have Kyrie Durant, Al Horford and Gordon Hayward
or at least one of those two veterans to go

(01:09:56):
with k D and Kyrie. Could you see that at
least a possibility or within the realm of reality if
those guys wanted to make it happen, I think you could,
you know, theoretically interest Golden State in something like that,
especially if they know they're losing Durant anyway, and if
they could prize say Jaylen Brown out of it. I

(01:10:18):
don't know that Boston would want to give up Tatum
for for a guy there, you know it really have
no idea what he's gonna look like when he eventually
is able to play again. The problem is, I think
it was back in twenty eleven the sign and trade
rules changed significantly, like they just I can't remember. The
last sign in trade was going to Cleveland. Yeah, yeah,

(01:10:39):
back then, like even the Chris Paul deal. Chris Paul
opted into his contract and then was traded. That wasn't
a traditional sign and trade. They they just don't happen anymore.
Maybe I guess if Durant opts in and could do
a deal that way through the Celtics, using Marcus Smart
as as as the biggest salary piece in that equation.
But even then, Durant wants multi years on his deal. Like,

(01:11:01):
Durant's not going to trust Boston to give him five
year deal after the fat I think he if Golden
State offers him the five to twenty one, you think
he'll take it. I don't, But I don't have a
ton of confidence in saying that. I just I we
still know the Knicks. At least I know the Knicks
are going to offer that four year deal, and I

(01:11:23):
just think Kevin's fixated on now. Maybe the injuries change things,
you know, maybe when you see your basketball mortality in
front of you and you look at what John Wall
has become in the last couple of years, and you
see the bird in the hand with that money, maybe
that changed your mindset. But everything I was told and
everything I was was led to believe leading up to
this point was that the Knicks were the strong favorite,

(01:11:45):
And I just don't think that's changed. I was gonna
say so of you if I said to you, U,
Kevin k D will wind up with the Knicks, Yes
or no? What's your what's your gut? My gut says yes,
unless Kyrie can sell him on being a Net. I mean,
we saw what the Nets just did today with Roddey
Hollis Jefferson. They're right around forty six million dollars now

(01:12:06):
in cap space, so they're going they're going big here
with with trying to create as much room as possible
to make a deal. So unless unless there's some kind
of package deal there, I think he'll be in next Okay, quickly, Chris,
because you're a boxing expert as well. Tyson Fury, Now,
I know Schwartz isn't the greatest opponent in the world,
but man Fury looked great and in that fight Saturday night.

(01:12:28):
Um look, I contend if he were black, he would
be getting more like he would be viewed as maybe
the next great thing in the sport. Do you see.
I think he's charismatic. I know he doesn't have a
ton of power, but he's charismatic. He's got great skills,
um am, I off Basin saying something like that, like,

(01:12:49):
why can't he captivate people more than he has? Well,
I mean first saying that Schwartz wasn't good was saying
it's mild in Toronto in the winter. He would talk game.
He did, but he was terrible and every knew it
kind of going in. I think theory can. I don't

(01:13:09):
know about that the racial part of it, but I
think he can. He can capture the attention of the
public by being active and being fighting in America. This
was just his third fight in the US. He had
a two and a half year layoff after beating Vladimir Klittsko.
All these things worked against him. If he had stayed
active after beating Klittzko and becoming that lineal champion ESPN

(01:13:30):
so loved to talk about, he would have. I think
he would have gone on to become a massive star.
But because of the mental health issues, those created setbacks
for him and prevented him. But he's got the personality,
the style. If he beats Jontay Wild early next year,
he is going to be a huge, huge star. Great stuff, man,
We appreciate it. Keep up the great work. Ye taking

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(01:15:07):
the big Jay journalists to the test. Its sources say yes.
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Before we get started, I want to say him upset
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we got to smack that. Oh, because you really wanted
to get into this game. I didn't like that. You're
a married man with a baby on the way dead.

(01:15:27):
If your wife is listening, you think she's happy with
that comment. Everyone loves a con all right, come on,
look at you, now you, now you I'm thinking about
I see him over there and blushing like the center
of text. Right now, I'm apologize. You don't want to,
You don't want to have a bad Night's gonna be like, oh,
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(01:15:48):
you know this game worked all these stories on a
little bit really outside, a little bit fake. It's up
to you to decide which sources are good. So let's
get started. Story number one. My sources say that a
guy bid seventy five grand had a fundraiser last week
in hopes of becoming Tiger Woods is caddy for a
day and upcoming Hero World Challenge event. Chris, you want
last week? All my source is good. I'm gonna say true.

(01:16:15):
I'm gonna say falls. Oh one nothing, Chris Broussard. It's
always so you can come up with these things. Just
why would Tiger allow somebody to be as caddy for you?
Do you know what I mean? You just want you
just want to major go ahead. Story number two. My
sources say that the Mariners placed outfielder Mitch Hanneger on
the ten day injured list last week after a rogue

(01:16:36):
foul ball ended up rupturting his testicle. Chris, you got
the lead. My source is good. I think that is true,
painfully true. Oh did you know that? Yeah? Sources say
the couple of Fox Sports Rade Brussard up two to one.

(01:16:56):
My sources say that the brother of former NBA player
Tyris tom Miss lost part of his pinky finger in
a swamp fishing incident after an alligator bit it off. Chris,
and my source is good. I'm gonna say that is false. Yeah,
that sounds false. I can't believe he just bit a
pinky off. What about the rest of the hand. You

(01:17:17):
sit on a throne of lies, a stute observation. Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like, he just put off
a pinky right right? Where's the arm? The whole arm?
Should I always ask you that? What you know? What
do you hit a ship? You're in the water with
a shot, finger, nail? What do you hit? What do
you hit the shark with? You haven't people say that's over?
You know what you do? I think this is over.

(01:17:38):
How much time will you hit him with? You hit
him with your stump. That's what you hit him with?
All right, go ahead, I think it's over. We only
got twenty. Say you don't have some funny or say
we got one more on my theme? No, go ahead,
I Wanda, you don't do that Twitter and he says
he has some folks he needs to quote get even
with Chris. I say that false. Come on. I want

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news of the weekend was that the Los Angeles Lakers
were able to pull off the trade at long last
for Anthony Davis and team him with Lebron James Collusion.

(01:18:46):
Now there is pressure to win the championship number one
whenever you play with Lebron, there's pressure to win the title,
but more so with him being in the seventeenth year.
It'll be a seventeen coming up, right, So it is
win now. And that's why I think even though the
Lakers gave up a lot. They give up Linzo Ball,
Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, the number four pick in this draft,

(01:19:11):
and two other future first rounds. I mean they look.
I actually think Rob this was that rare trade and
it's not a cop out. I think it was good
for both teams because the Lakers you had to weather.
It was just to keep Lebrin engaged. You know, I
hope not that he's got three years left. I mean,
he's got to win it. You can't wait well, I
mean him waiting for God to develop. That's why it

(01:19:33):
was a bad idea from Jump Street that that a
guy of that age and ilk hoping. He was certainly hoping,
you know himself, maybe a Paul George or whatever. But yeah,
so you're you're on board with that. And obviously New
Orleans they got they got a great haul. I still
think it's it's questionable for health reasons and I have

(01:19:54):
to wait to see. Well, yeah, let's see jo Linzo. No,
I feel Linzo has not lit the world on No,
if you want to redo that draft, he's not the
second pick in the draft. No, not even Claron Fox much. Rather,
now here's what I'll say about that. Alvin Gentry, who
just got an extension, the coach of the New Orleans

(01:20:15):
Pelicans and David Griffin. They really like the three players
they got from the Laggers, particularly Linzo Ball and Brandon Ingram,
and they think Linzo Ball can be great. Look, if
you think about it in theory, on one hand, at
least he's a past first point guard. He pushes the
ball up court, and he's not gonna be that guy that's,

(01:20:39):
you know, trying to get his own. He's gonna be
looking for Zion all right and Brandon Ingram and Drew Holliday.
And they got some scores on that team. If they
bring back Julius Randall, if they can so in theory,
I get that. Here's my issue. Alvin Gentry is very
much like Mike D'Antoni. Coaches the same offensive system right,

(01:21:03):
and those systems have thrived with ball dominant point guards
who are downhill point guards and who are great at
seeing the floor, which Linzo is. But think about it,
Steve Nash, James Harden, even Jeremy Lynn with the two
months of success he had in D'Antoni says like they're
just they handle the ball a lot, whereas and they

(01:21:23):
run high, pick and roll. Whereas Linzo is not a
point guard that dribbles a lot. He likes to move
the ball with the pass, which there's a strength in that.
But I'm not sure that's a great fit with Alvin Gentry.
You know, look, Gentry's an offensive, very good mind, offensively
around for a long time from Detroit when he was

(01:21:45):
doing he's had nine lives considering as long as he's
been around, he never wanted anything right, I mean, and
he's been You're right. I think he's had five head coaches,
not won anything other than the one year in Phoenix
running dan Toni's stuff. But the play, right, that's so
that's their feeling on it. So, but I hear you,

(01:22:06):
because Lions, the ball has yet to prove anything. He's
been injury prone. Brandon Ingram has the blood clots. Hopefully
it doesn't reapplire, and it might not a reoccur and
everything will be far because he was playing real what
it really was. But you know, and then they got
the draft picks and whoever they get with number four,
whether they trade that or not. But we want to

(01:22:26):
focus on in this segment. Rob Anthony Davis is he
built for the pressure. And andre Iguadala spoke recently during
the NBA Finals about playing constantly which very few NBA
players experienced this, but constantly playing with the pressure and
the expectation to win an NBA title. Rob g take

(01:22:49):
us there, that's right. He spoke to our friend Rick
Bucker is gonna be co hosting the NBA Draft Show
this week with you. Chris on Thursday said quote, playing
for the Warriors is just like playing for Team USA.
When you playing the Olympics, you don't even enjoy it.
There's an anxiety of we have to win, we can't lose,
we can't go back home. So we talk about an
Olympics team. We said, we can't go back home without
the gold medal. Fellas got to lock in. Let's lock in.

(01:23:12):
And then when you win, it's more like, yeah, we
got it, we can go back home. We won, but
we were supposed to win. Yeah, And you could also
put that onto being a teammate of Lebron James. And
I'll say this as you were reading that, Rob, this
thought came online Lebron probably since what year four, that's

(01:23:35):
when they got to the finals in two thousand and
seven or seven. Since then, every single year for him
has been the expectation that you have to win a championship.
He looks like he's been able to enjoy it, nonetheless,
But think about that this year, Rob, And I know,

(01:23:55):
obviously you might disagree, and obviously Lebron won to win,
make the playoffs and go as far as they could,
but this year very well may have been a nice
little reprieve for him of you know, he went there,
most people didn't put any pressure on him to win.
Didn't expect them You you say yourself, you didn't expect

(01:24:16):
much from them. No, but I expect him to make
the playoffs. You. But but even that he didn't get
to the conference finals or the finals, it wasn't gonna
be into the world No, first time for him in
twelve years or something. So yeah, but do you think
Anthony Davis is built for the pressure cooker that he

(01:24:37):
just stepped into. That's a good question, because he has
had no pressure played in New Orleans, you know what
I mean, one newspaper towel, nobody's hounding on you know
that what New Orleans is they don't have anybody biting
on you if you're not doing well. I don't have
any ride Parker. I'm park Nobody locally doing that. But anyway,

(01:24:58):
um so, so yeah, there's it will be interested. And
this has been always the thing with Lebron. And we
know kd had said, you know, the atmosphere around him
can be toxic. And it doesn't mean that Lebron himselfish toxic,
but what goes on when you have those kind of
expectations and Anthony Davis, who knows, uh, he's never dealt

(01:25:20):
with this right now, and here's the other part we say.
I've said it before. Some people think Lebron's to go
and if Lebron, if they if they do pull it
off and win a championship, it'll be about Lebron. And
if they don't, they'll be looking at Anthony Davis saying
he's because we saw Dwight Howard come here with Kobe,
he's soft. Blah blah blah blah. You know what I mean.

(01:25:42):
I mean Dwight Howard hated it so bad with Kobe
he left thirty million dollars on the table to leave LA.
He was a classic, big chiseled, good looking god, could
do commercials in Hollywood. He was at the table. Was
a super duperstar. Yeah, I mean he had to dunk
contest great performances and the history of great setters who

(01:26:06):
played in Los Angeles. He was supposed to fit in.
It didn't work out. He hated it. He couldn't wait
to get out of here. Here's where I disagree with you.
I don't think that like I think this is the
best time to join Lebron, because, as you've pointed out

(01:26:27):
time and time again, he didn't make the playoffs last year. Now,
whether we want to blame the injury, whether we want
to blame his age, he just doesn't have anymore. Whatever
the case, it's you can't say that without Anthony Davis
or whoever they were to get or may get going forward.
Lebron could do it by himself. And now you know

(01:26:49):
what I'm saying, Like, no, you're coming in there like
you need me. Yeah, I haven't won anything myself. It's
your team, Lebron. You're the best player. But you need
me too, right, I get that, But I'm just saying,
just let's just play it out. They played, they make
the playoffs, and they get knocked out in the first round.

(01:27:10):
There's no way Anthony David's gonna be unscathed. Well if
it appends on how he plays. Now, where I would
disagree with you is that I don't think Kyrie and
Dwayne Wade, with the years they didn't win, they didn't
get blamed. No, No, Now maybe that third Star, maybe
that Chris By, even Bosh didn't really nobody Lebron Heck,

(01:27:33):
they lost that first finals because of Lebron the Dallas
No he gets so he got blamed. They won the
next two and then the last year. Now, in fairness,
you you remember that Wade and Bosh were breaking down.
So that last time is where they got ran off
the floor. By saying, Antonio and those two they still
didn't get killed, but everybody could see the end was near.

(01:27:55):
They were banged up. They weren't the same. So, but
I don't think those two ever got crushed. Kevin Love
got crushed, but Kevin Love didn't play well. I just
think I just think, I just think that there's an
expectation and Anthony Davis hasn't been on the stage yet
and uh, and if he doesn't hold up his end
of the bargain, it will be about him the narrative

(01:28:18):
because but RONA, Well, it depends on where they where
they finished, and what they do in the playoffs. Obviously
it could end up looking Remember lebron Is in his
seventeenth year. What if they go to the second round
and Davis balls twenty eight and twelve and lebron Is
struggles a little bit, then then then it would be

(01:28:40):
a It would be a difference. But I just still
think that for right now, it's still Lebron's world and
everybody else is in it. Yeah, yeah, would you agree
with that? Yeah, no question. Anthony Davis's team, Well, when
you talk to people around the league, in New Orleans
and elsewhere, the majority opinion if not consistent. I haven't

(01:29:05):
talked to you know, everybody about it, so I'm not
gonna say it's definitely the consensus. But the feeling is
that Anthony Davis, for all his greatness as a player,
does not have the personality of a number one guy,
Like he's not you know, like I mean We've seen it.
He's been in New Orleans seven years, putting up monster

(01:29:27):
numbers and they've got one playoff series and they swept Portland.
What was that last last year? And then this year
you come back and we can't say, oh, he didn't
have any players with him, because he did at times.
They were bitten by the injury bug for some of
his career, but he's also had some good talent around him.
No doubt people thought they were gonna take the next step.

(01:29:47):
Last year was a breakthrough. That's why I think he
will fit nicely with Lebron because Davis, there won't be
that power struggle that there was between Lebron and Kyrie.
There won't be that resentment towards some of the things
Lebron does that there was with Kyrie. Anthony Davis, I

(01:30:08):
believe is happy to be the second guy. Now he's
gonna he may be their leading scorer, but he'll he'll
be fine being that second guy. And so that's where
I think that will work. But it's gonna be a
pressure cooker for him and as iguod dollars. Look, when
you play with Lebron, it is championships. It's just as

(01:30:30):
simple it's not like, well, let's play and play it
out and see what happens. Oh, we got a good team,
we'll play it out. Maybe we'll be in the mix
at the end of the year. That that's not it. Well,
like you said, for the seven years that he's been
in the NBA, Anthony Davis has had no expectations. Nobody cared.
He still hasn't been killed because they don't have any
playoff success, not at all. He's still viewed as a

(01:30:55):
top five player in the world numbers wise. There's no
doubt about it. So it's gonna be interesting. So let's
see what you guys think. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven, seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine. Will Anthony Davis be able to handle the
pressure of playing alongside Lebron James. We want your viewpoints

(01:31:17):
so we can continue the conversation. Next, it's The Eye
Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live
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(01:31:40):
Rob is at Rob Parker f S one. All right,
let's get to your calls. What you think is Anthony
Davis built for the pressure of playing alongside Lebron James.
Let's start with Joseph in Indiana. Joseph, you're on with
the Eye couple. How you guys doing to great? How
are you good? Well? You got I don't think Anthony

(01:32:06):
Davis is gonna be able to do the pressure because
if Lebron goes down with the injury, he won't be
able to lead that team. Because he mix to the
eighth seat or doesn't make the playoffs, everyone will everyone
want to throw garbage out because he didn't win them title. Well,
you you certainly right that if Lebron gets hurt, they're

(01:32:26):
in trouble because Anthony Davis, we've seen what he does
as the leader of the team. He's a great player,
there's no doubting that, but he hasn't shown that he
can lead a team deep in the playoffs. Even you
look at the Lebron James and some of these other
great younger players, and then even if they didn't win
a champions like before Lebron win a championship. You still

(01:32:48):
were like, well he can lead you deep. You know,
Dwight Howard never win the championship, but he could lead
you deep into the playoffs. They got into the finals
and they did not messed around with the lineup. I
still believe they had a better chance. I thought I
had a chance to win. That I do, and they missed.
Courtney was a courtney love, No, no, no, no, what courtney?

(01:33:11):
I really did think joke. I knew it wasn't no, no, no,
I knew it was all I just I did. I mean,
it was in. But he missed that lay up at
the end of the game, that kind of alley oop
I remember. But yeah, but the point is he missed.
Anthony Davis has not doesn't have a track record of
leading you anywhere, right, not to the conference finals, not

(01:33:34):
to the second round. Well once to the second round,
but you know that's one time in seven years. So yeah,
I get what Joseph is saying. Let's go to Rusty
in Iowa. Rusty what part of Iowa Eastern Iowa? Chris,
I know you got, I know you got some Iowa
basketball in your background. I went to lived in Des Moines,

(01:33:54):
went to Dowling High School. Yes, I know that. But
Dick nurses from Iowa, Yes, he calls it the Yeah. Hey,
Russy just admitted the last time you saw a black
guy in Iowa was eight years ago. Right, I could
tell you it might have been longer than that, right, right,

(01:34:15):
Actually Eastern Iowa, what you got Davenport and Rod Yeah, yeah,
but they got some blad there and Hall of Iowa, right,
had something there, yea Brona All right. So we talked
about Anthony going to the Lakers, and I don't think

(01:34:35):
that Anthony is on the same level as Kevin uh
Kevin Love. Wait wait, you don't think he's as good?
Anthony Davis is as good as Kevin Love. No, no,
no other way around, Kevin Love. Kevin Love isn't on
the same level as Anthony Davis. But if he goes,
if he goes to the Lakers and he fails because
Kay Love was putting up mad numbers in Minneapolis, right right,

(01:34:56):
and then he's just a a guy. Here's the thing, though, Rusty,
Kevin Love was that third guy and that third guy,
and it's not just with lebron but that third guy
in general. In a lot of big threes gets left
out Chris Bosh and Miami Kevin Love in Cleveland, right,

(01:35:19):
I mean, think about Shock and Kobe and Glenn Rice.
They won the championship. It was their first ring. Fifteen
points a game. I don't even mention he was a
prolific scorer. He'd be monster today because he was a
great shooter. It was, but he got left out in
the cold and demanded the trade even after they won

(01:35:39):
the championship. When you have a big three, you need
one of these things to make it work and make
everybody happy. In Golden State that Klay Thompson is just
a guy that can catch and shoot tremendously, so he
doesn't have to have the ball a lot of a
large amount of time to be effective and get his
twenty points. So that's one way it can work, where

(01:36:01):
Stephen kd can handle the ball most of the time.
Or you need a pass first point guard, Magic Johnson,
Kareem Abdul Jabbar, James Worthy. Magic was always he was
a third leading score among those guys, but he was
the leader of the Big three, if you will, but
he was a past first point guard. Or the other

(01:36:22):
way is in Boston with Ray Allen Kevin Garden at
Paul Pierce, where all of them were right at the
ends of their primes. They just wanted to win, and
they all took a drop down, right, all of their
numbers declined because they were really about working together as
a team. But when you bring young guys together, that

(01:36:43):
third guy in most cases, like say Kyrie was went
to the Lakers, okay, will but say he goes there,
don't you see? Probably like who's gonna be the third guy?
Who's the third guy? Be ad? Really, yes, there's no way,
because Kyrie's won a championship, He's played really well. Third,
he's not as good as a D. I don't think

(01:37:04):
he take a backseat to ADI, giving his history and like,
oh wait, man, I made that game winning three to
I'm just telling you, like his mental part would be
like even though a D you could say it's better,
I don't think what you're saying is exactly what I'm
talking about. Nobody's taking a back seat right right, So

(01:37:25):
it would be a chemistry experiment that could go awry.
Let's go to Daryl in Washington. Darrell, you're on with
the Eye Couple. Hey, what's going on? Guys? What's up? Hey, man,
I just wanted to tell you as a Lakers fan, Man,
it's gonna be kind of interesting because everybody is talking about,
oh game clothes. It's over now. But people have to realize.
I tried to tell these you know, you gotta give

(01:37:47):
these guys time to develop. You know when Brian went
to the Heat, he had all these all stars the
first week. The first year, it was a tough one.
The second year they had to regroup and they started
getting strong. Longer with La is kind of the same thing.
But what I feel like as the fan base has
just gotten too impatient and what's gonna happen is the

(01:38:07):
first year is not gonna It's gonna be a rebuild year.
And I feel like, what's gonna happen? Man, trying to
hear that. Though I know that problem, hold on that
regarrel that regular season. People can understand that they I
was gonna lock it in the day I said they'd
be under fifty four and a half. That's the over
under under fifty four and a half wins because they're
gonna have low management for Lebron and a D They're

(01:38:31):
going to it's gonna be getting the chemistry together. People
don't understanding the regular season. But if you're gonna tell
me people are gonna be have to be patient with
them getting bounced in the first or second round. Nah
that in a West that's wide open. Now go ahead, Daryl.
Is he still there? And the good thing is Lebron.
I mean he's a QB man, he's a facilitator on

(01:38:53):
the floor, so he can still lead with that. But
like you said, though, man uh ad Man, he's great too.
But I just the killer instinct, man, I just feel
like that's just one thing lacking. He's got the skill set,
but they need a monster out there that's mentally there, man.
And I just don't feel like between him and a
d I mean, we need one more guy just to

(01:39:16):
really put this in perspective, to get the ball rolling. Well,
that's to be interested. Do they go rob for that
third star to break all that money and get two
or three pieces? I tend to think unless that third
guys Kawhi Leonard, I tend to think you should go
get two or three pieces because you do need depth
and you need other guys who do other things. Everybody

(01:39:37):
can't be the star, you know that. Look at these
other teams, look at what we just saw with Toronto
with all those guys. Remember in some games that six
guys in double figures? Yeah, and they won. Yeah. Now,
if it was Kawhi, that's one thing. I wouldn't care
who the other twelve guys were. If I got Lebron,
Kawuhi and Anthony Davis. But outside of that, and that
means Kyrie, Kimball, any of them, you need to I think,

(01:40:01):
go for more pieces. The basketball conversation will continue with
former NBA General manager Stuart Jackson. He joins us next,
but first, he's worked in the NBA at high levels
in basically every position possible. It is Stut Jackson, former
NBA head coach, GM and front office executive for the
league itself. How are you doing, Stup? What's up? Stuart? Guys?

(01:40:25):
What a day? And God only knows. I was there
when Stuart was the coach with the Knicks. Man, those
were the good old days. What day? Yeah? They were.
Those were some of the glory days compared to what
the Knicks have gone through recent and now we look
right now, student Knicks might get shut out. I don't
even know what's gonna happen now after two weeks ago

(01:40:46):
there were twelve to one odds to with the NBA,
they might get Zion k D and Kyrie, And now
was why are you feeling the same way, like this
could be a cold summer for them? Rob, Chris, come on,
don't be negative. You're like you still got to live
in the New York I like, I don't want to
go to the Garden. Watch that. No, you don't understand.

(01:41:09):
It's not the garden. Rob. If the Knicks don't pick
up guys in free agency improve this basketball team, it's
everywhere you go to bodega, your dorman, like you know,
the Uber driver. Everybody's gonna have a story. And I
can't go through another year like that. Well, do you
think they are reports that they are, And I've talked
to some people too, and they're gonna offer Katie the Max?

(01:41:31):
Do you think that's a wise thing? I do. Listen,
I mean a couple of things, at least to me,
are evident about Katie's a surgery. You all know that
this is a very dangerous thing when you have an
achilles tear and trying to come back from that. History
just doesn't It hasn't been kind to the players who
come back but I'll say this, I would take ninety

(01:41:55):
percent of Katie over one hundred percent of almost everyone else.
I think is gaming predicated not necessarily on pure explosion.
He's a very good stand still shooter, he's a very
good post player, he's a very good defender, you know,
and he's good off the dribble, and it's not like
he needs to be a jet off the dribble. So

(01:42:16):
I would take my chances. You know, you sit for
a year with the hope and the prospect of this
team is going to be great, and then you have
one of the best players in the world. I think
it's a fair bet the only thing here I have.
And I get it. The Nick's God know what, Evern't
won the championships in nineteen seventy three. I get it.
It's not often at a player of that caliber becomes available.
I get all that. But it would be just nick

(01:42:39):
like that it doesn't work out or it comes back,
and you know what I mean, like seriously, like you
you sign a guy who's injured, damage goods and then
it doesn't pan out. I mean that, That's what I
would be afraid of. Yeah, But at the same time,
and I think that's a very good point. I keep
asking myself though, how bad could Katie fail coming off

(01:43:01):
an Achilles injury? I mean, is he going to be done?
I don't think so. Is he going to be what
he was or the players he was not necessarily? Is
he still going to be a very good, high level
player and one of the most competitive people in basketball? Well,
sure he is, so I think the chances of him
falling flat on his face are pretty slim. And again

(01:43:22):
I think if you're the Knicks, and just giving her history,
the fact that you probably bring another player, if you
do sign Kde with the prospect you're going to be
great in the future, I still think it's a good bet.
The Eye couple were joined by former NBA head coach
in general manager Stu Jackson. Stu, there was a big
trade obviously, Anthony Davis going from the Pelusions. Do you

(01:43:45):
think that they are the favorites right now Cordon to
Vegas to win the title next year? Do you think
they should be the favorites at this point? I do not, Guys.
Why you know, if you look at the history of
teams that are assembled and put together even in their
first year, it's very difficult when you're getting a new

(01:44:08):
collection of elite players that have to mail themselves under
a new coach, with new support players that haven't played together,
we all know that at the beginning of next year
it's going to take some time for them as a
group to really mail. Now, Listen, I'm talking out of
both sides of my mouth here, so I'll qualify it

(01:44:29):
and say that when you have great players, they figure
it out. Listen, Ad and Lebron will figure out how
to play with one another, and whether it's Kemba or
Jimmy Butler or someone else, it's going to happen. But
my point is it does take some time, and I
don't think necessarily not having gone through that championship adversity

(01:44:50):
right off the bat turns into a championship, tell me
year two that they're together. Yeah, I think the Vegas odds,
they're probably good ones, but in that first year there'll
be some growing pains, and I don't know if it
all comes together by way of a championship in year one.
Stud you mentioned Jimmy Butler, Kimball Walker. My feeling is

(01:45:12):
and I think this is not likely to happen. But
I feel like unless they could get say Kawhi Leonard
as that third star. I think they may be better
off breaking up that money and going after two or
three guys than one other star. What is your thought
on that, Well, you know, I would be weary of

(01:45:36):
Kyrie for this reason. Not that he's not a great player,
because we all know he's a tremendous, tremendous player. But
I think when you have a d and Lebron in
the fold, perhaps a different type of player that may
shoot them best is a guy that's a little bit
more of a of a facilitator, you know, like a
Jimmy Butler or like you know who has who's like

(01:45:58):
a high level sort of glue guy and great as
a two way player on the other side of the ball.
You know, that to me may have a little bit
more appeal to me. As great a player as Kyrie is,
I don't know if it's necessarily a fit on the
court and from a personality standpoint. Still, the last couple

(01:46:19):
of years, we've seen teams take roll the dice on
players we saw okay, see, you know it was all
talked about that Paul George was going to the Lakers.
They said, we don't care we'll make a trade film,
we'll give up Oladipo, and it worked out and he
decided to stay. We saw this year in Toronto where
the same thing kind of happened, where they said, well,

(01:46:40):
you know, everybody says Kauhai's not staying, but we're gonna
take a chance and make a move. With the success
of that and depending on what he does, I mean,
they won a championship. Whether he leaves or not, it
still was a success. But given that those with players
like that, would that give teams a little more confidence
and like rolling the dice once in a while if

(01:47:01):
it's just a rental or saying we're gonna go for
it and and make a move even though we're not
sure guy's going to stick around us. Personal opinion, I
think against because your phone went out. No, I said,
I don't necessarily subscribe to that notion that going, you know,

(01:47:22):
for broke is the best way to go in Toronto's case.
You know again, back then I thought it was a
bad move, But in retrospect and Monday morning quarterbacking Toronto,
it became a good move. Rob because they were that
close before they had while Leonard, they had the mar
de Rosen and the deepest bench in the NBA, I

(01:47:45):
think the second most productive bench in the NBA. So
they were poised and on the cuff of truly being
a championship level team, and you know what, he pulls
the trigger and it worked out. It worked out for
one year. Now we can debate all day what's on
the other side of the Toronto Raptors if Kawhi Leonard
leaves and have they really hurt the sustainability of the

(01:48:09):
franchise at a championship level for a long time. You
might argue that it's going to hurt them. But for
any other team that's not on the Cup the way
that the Toronto Raptors were this time last year, going
for broke is a tough way to go. I think
a team student that's been going for broke is the
Houston Rockets. And now they're reports that Chris Paul and

(01:48:31):
James Hardener at odds and look, I'm picking Harden as
a player over Chris all day, every day at this
stage of their careers. But I do think in this battle,
according to reports, I think Chris is right in that
they need to get more ball movement and player movement.
If they're going to be able to win the championship.
I don't think you can just be so James Harden centric,

(01:48:54):
because I don't think any player, no matter how good
he is, as a one man show, can carry a
team like that. Do you agree or you think they
should just stick with what they have and see if
you know they can win playing the way they have been. Well,
you know, Chris, not only do I not? I mean
not only do I agree. This is not a new revelation.

(01:49:16):
I mean I've always felt that, you know, people that
really know the game of basketball, and you know, not myself,
I mean other people believe that when you get to
the playoffs and you have one and two days preparation,
particularly at the championship level, in between games, and the

(01:49:37):
technology that exists today, the intelligence of the assistant coaches
and head coaches in the NBA, and having those two
days to prepare, you're darn right that a one man
show is not going to win games for you, particularly
in key possessions in a game. That's not a big revelation,

(01:49:58):
that's just a fact. And you know, we can talk
to the analytics and how valuable and expicient you know,
the three is and getting a layup and all of that,
But at the end of the day, in key possessions
of a game, you need ball movement and player movement
to sustain throughout the basketball game. That makes you a

(01:50:20):
little bit less guardable. But when you had when you
can load up on you know, a guy like James
Harden and quite frankly, I was a little worried about
the Raptors or the Championship series because they had reverted
to that. But you know, in the Championship Series against
the Warriors, you saw them go back to you know,
the way that they play, which is bought more movement,

(01:50:41):
playing off of Kauai. And to me, that's how offensively
you win championship. Great stuff, stud man. We appreciate the
knowledge as always, Yes, sir, yeah, always always great man,
always great. All right, than a good night? Yeah got YouTube?
All right, guys, the end is near for one of
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(01:51:05):
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(01:51:26):
It's the eye couple of Chris Brusar Rob Parker wrapping
up a Magic City. Monday. We need to bid farewell
to a guy that I like. I don't agree with
him a lot. I have no ill will. I like him.
LaVar Ball like what he's been in the news ever

(01:51:48):
since Linzo Ball stepped on the college basketball scene, no doubt,
and he's been entertaining at times informative. And now with
Linzo being traded to the New Orleans Pelicans, he's going
to probably start dying a slow death, I would imagine,
but he's trying to go out with a bang, and

(01:52:09):
today on first Take on ESPN, he's trying to convince
us that this is what he wanted. He wanted Linzo
traded to New Orleans. They suckers. I'm playing chess, y'all
playing checkers. The best way to get Linzo out of
LA is I said, you know what, I don't like

(01:52:30):
New Orleans. I don't like New Orleans. Lonzo ain't going
nowhere in the best in the world. Lakers ain't gonna
never let him go. First thing. They do exactly what
I want to do. Let him go because it's raggedy
over there. Even the writings on the new shirt that
he's gonna wear it said no LA on it. Here's
here's that should be his last statement. Or anybody putting
a microphone in front of him. Take the L all right,

(01:52:55):
just take the L. Do not try to spin it,
because this is the no spin own. This is a
spin job where you're trying to convince us that your
real thought was that you wanted him to go to
New Orleans. This is an LA kid. He grew up
in LA, in the LA Area. Ain't no way Lonzo
Ball wanted to go to New Orleans. It's a dream

(01:53:16):
come true. You know how many kids grow up in
Los Angeles and want to play for the Lakers and
most people don't get to do that. And you play
college ball at u c l A. You got you
had it all. Who was this hero growing up? Right,
Magic Lebron, I'm sorry, right Lebron? And he got to
play with him at Magic? What did Magic say? We're

(01:53:37):
gonna hang up your your jersey and the rafts and
stay balls. Right, think about all that, and now you're
gonna sit here and just say uh, instead of just saying, hey,
my son is gonna move on and figure it out
and I want him to stay healthy and have a
great NBA. Just say that to sit here and try

(01:53:58):
to sell us that you manipulated it by saying that
they better not trade and saw that the biggest mistake
ever was you trying to get him traded to New Orleans.
You don't believe that for one second. Christ No, no,
come on. Look, I looked at him saying this and
heard it and all that, and I know it's just
some b s all right. Like I know he's clearly

(01:54:24):
and there's a part of him that's trying to be
funny and played to itself. But the problem is news
Outlets take it and run with it and take it
seriously like he might say that at a party, a
private party and everybody, but no, people take this seriously.
And what he said before that, the day before, Rob

(01:54:45):
g play, what he said about the Lakers before that,
I think it was a day or two before. Like
I said, I guarantee, like I said again, it'd be
the worst move the Lakers ever did in their life.
And now I never win another championship. Guarantee they're gonna
regret it. I'm gonna have fun because I told y'all
it was crashing down. So obviously he's contradicting himself. That

(01:55:06):
was before the trade was made. He clearly didn't want
him leaving. Oh that was after the trade, all right, Yeah,
that was that was right. So he's talking in the
future tense July six. But look, we'll see if the
Lakers ever win another championship. But but if that, even
if they don't go on the curse of Lines, I mean,

(01:55:27):
because the lines are not producing. That's the biggest thing.
Even though it wouldn't even be right if he was bawling,
he's not all right. I'm tired of hearing about how
good his defense was. All right, Yeah it was all right,
But let's not He's not a key Elijahan in a
guard's body, all right. I a couple of Fox Sports Radio.

(01:55:50):
Great three hours. We hope you enjoyed it. We will
be back tomorrow. Peace.

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