Is Aaron Rodgers Overrated?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Chris Bruce Are and I'm here with my
man Rob Parker, and we have another great show for
you today. It's our first day back together in two weeks,
so you know things are going to get heated. We're
debating it all. Should the Cowboys wait and see before
they pay? Ezekiel Elliot? Is Aaron Rodgers overrated? Do bonus wings?
Countless chicken wings? I'm getting fired up just thinking about it,

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or hear or feel the extra zeal in my voice?

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I did? Like you were well rusted and uh had
your beach and pull time and you know your speed
obeyed the suit you adjorge yourself. Was it good? No
speedos for me? You know you knew you You know
you lose your brother card. Have you wearing one of those? Right?
Got your gingerbread hanging out? All that? Right? But I

(01:58):
had a great time. Yes, I was every Rginia beach
family reunion. Uh, wonderful time seeing all my relatives and
all that hanging out. Yeah, we had a good time,
and and and something else because we haven't been together
on the air for like two weeks. Yeah, it's been
two weeks. We both I took a week off and
then you had a week off. I said, I have
to say something I never thought I would say, especially

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knowing that you go on Golden Girls cruise. Oh here,
I haven't been yet, but I am going. I missed you.
Oh my god, listen like the man that I missed you. Man,
we had some great replacements for you, but there's nothing
like my man Ry Parker. While back I couple so

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it's good to have you back, man, Good to be back.
Ye back the same to you together. And that's what
happens when you have a show. And you know, you know,
people were a little salty that we both were off,
you know for those two weeks of either one of us. Yeah,
and I sent to people on Twitter and Instagram, Dude,
we gotta get a break at some point. And if
we don't do it now, when but we're back. We're back.

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We're gonna do some more shows. We still have a
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keep the show rolling and then come September, you won't
miss us at all. We'll be right. We'll be on
every day, everyday, football, basketball, sea exactly, sure, exactly, So
while there we go. Good to have you back, Glad,
you and the family had a great time, Christel, And

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today we all gonna mention that today is National Wing Day,
so you know that's near and dear to both of us.
That's gotta be. I like wings, but you you absolutely
adore you know I do. I think this is probably
what your third biggest holiday, yes in life, behind Christmas

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and Free Lap Dance Day. I think those are the
other ones. I really think this is up there for you.
I mean you you like wings more than any right,
I know that's what I had for lunch today. Yeah,
for lunch, I have your back eating normal. No, I'm
still on. I got eight days, eight days left. But

(04:10):
I do have a couple. I've had a couple like
during vacation. You know what I mean, you have flash
slacked off. Yeah a little bit. I know that. And
you're still looking looking, You're still where you want to be,
suns or something like that. Well, i's gonna tell you
look fantastic round. Thank you. It's been hard to see
it in your cheeks though. Yeah you're a little puffy. What. No, No,

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I'm good, matter of fact. But I did. I did
win another bet today, uh and uh got paid off.
So it was great because of National Wing Day. So
my building manager, Eduardo, he owed me forty dollars worth
of wings, so thank you. Well, you know who also
owes his wings is Rob Yeah we got the wings

(04:53):
out of it. Yeah he knows. He mentioned it today.
He said I could have my wings whenever I wanted to.
But I think I'm gonna wait for you since I
got a all these other bets. But all right, hey, Chris,
let's welcome into our couple crew. Wouldn't be able to
do this fine radio program without them, Rob g of course,
as our producer USC Chris is in for Alex today,
he's our engineer. David Gascon's our sports anchor who'll keep

(05:16):
us updated throughout the program. And turn Ari and Khari
my personal intern So we're all in full effect, Chris,
They're all on the other side of the glass. Let's
kick some ass on this magic City Monday. That's right,
let's do it. The big news, of course, I mean
NFL season is upon us. Training camps have opened and

(05:41):
actually they can now start hitting one another, you know,
so that that's exciting. And the big story, of course
is the Dallas Cowboys. Their their lead guy, they're arguably
their best player, certainly their best offensive player, Ezekiel Elliott.
As his teammates are grinding and getting ready for the season.

(06:05):
He's headed to Cabo nice clean water and get drinks,
get out there, and that's what he's gonna be doing.
He's holding out because he wants a new contract. Now
he's got two years left on his deal. Amari Cooper
and Dak Prescott. Of course, they're playing in their last
year and Dak definitely wants to get his contract done,

(06:27):
but he's there. It looks like he'll play whether he
gets it done or not. Amari Cooper is not even
thinking about an extension. He's making thirteen million plus this year.
He's fine playing that out. So look, Rob, I get
what Ezekiel Elliot's doing. And I always want the players
to get paid, especially in football, where I think they

(06:48):
have the worst union and hints the worst collective bargaining
agreement they do among the three major sports. No if
fans or butts, it's so bad. And this is why,
especially actually, and it is different, Chris, depending on what
position you play in that league, whether or not, and
the running back position. As you know, the team gets

(07:10):
to have the control over you. During your best years
you're most productive, and it's terrible when you're starting to decline,
as most guys do, then you become available and then
they said, well, you're not averaging five yards of carrying anymore.
We can't pay you that right even though you kick
but for the first four or five years, So that

(07:30):
I'm telling you, you know me, I'm behind these guys. Yeah,
I'm with you, and I'm with Zeke, and it looks
and I also, I do understand what the analytics guys.
I don't agree with the analytics guys a lot, but
I do agree with them on the devaluing of the
running back position. Like we're gonna get to this later,

(07:50):
Melvin Gordon, I'm sorry, you better come back for what
we're offering or we'll be fine with Austin Eckler and
we'll be fine without you, Melvin Gordon without my brother. Look,
I have a problem with him getting paid, but he's
not irreplaceable, all right, But you gotta stand up for
yourself sometimes if he can stand up for himself, but

(08:11):
he may end up hurting himself because he doesn't. And
that's where I'm differentiating him from Ezekiel Elliott. Ezekiel Elliott
is the one running back I believe. I mean, Levion
Bell is great, but James Connerfield in admirably didn't make
the playoffs without because because they have some injuries. But
it wasn't. It wasn't because Jay didn't make whatever you

(08:33):
want to say, they didn't make the player they who
have they won? How many championships did they win with
Leon Bell. I'm asking you how many championships did they
win with leone the playoffs? I don't think yes, yes.
Would First, I'm not gonna say James Connor is as
good as Levion. Alright, numbers were better here, but I

(08:59):
can find again. Ezekiel Elliott is unique. I can't find
another Ezekiel Elliott. He is the best runner of the
football in the NFL. And he's good in the other
areas blocking, catching as well, So I he's the one
guy I want. I'm like he's worth the money. However,
I gotta look at it from both sides. I get

(09:21):
what Zeke is doing. I hope it works, and I
hope he gets paid. But if I'm the Dallas Cowboys
and I'm looking at my cap and I have to
pay Amari Cooper and and and Dak Prescott, and I
got other players coming up as well, I'm looking at
this and I might I might have to take the
same tack that I took with Emmett Smith. What was

(09:44):
it ninety three? Yeah, what happened was they went and two,
and god forbid, they go two and three to start
the season. Well, and here's the money. Would I would
let it go? Because look, they got a new offensive coordinator,
Kelly Moore. Everybody's talking about he's gonna let Dak throw
the deep ball. He's opening up the offense, there's more
motion before the snap. All this it's just gonna be

(10:06):
a whole new exotic Cowboys offense under Kellen Moore. I
would like to see. If I'm the Cowboys and I
got money issues, I want to see what we look
in the first two games without Zeke. They're not tough.
They got the Giants and they got the Redskins. I
know they're kind their division games, their rivalries, but those
are two games that you might be able to win

(10:28):
without You got Miami in week three, So the first
three weeks aren't treacherous. And if you lose any of
those against those teams that you think you should beat,
then it's a panic. That's why it's the other way around,
Crown from O and two. It's the other way around.
You want to make sure you beat those teams, and
you don't even give those teams a shot at beating
you because you're not at full strength. And here's the

(10:50):
other part where where me and you part ways. If
if if I'm the Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones, Dude, the
clock is chick and you have not won. You haven't
been to an NFC title game since nineteen ninety five.
You got a good team in place, and you're playing
what you're playing with the best running back in the

(11:11):
league you're gonna put. You set yourself up to have
this thing blow up in your face at your age,
what you're trying to win. I know he's already in
the Hall of Fame, but pet, they haven't won. Jackson,
Jimmy Johnson left. All I'm telling you is, if you're
the Cowboys, don't mess with what you have. You got
a young quarterback, you got a young running back, and

(11:33):
you got a start receiver that you made with a
good trade. You are in position to make that run.
Stop with the nickel and dime pay to people who
do well, they don't want to pay them. I mean, well,
look if they can, if they can use bonuses, incentives
and all this other stuff to pay all three of

(11:54):
those guys I'm talking about, Amari Cooper, Dak Prescott and
ezekiel I do it. I want my money. I'm with you,
I don't. Can't they do that? There's a salary cap
that fraudulent. Is it that? That's what I'm saying. If
they can get them under it. I don't want them

(12:14):
to nickel and dime them just because they don't they
want to be cheap. But if that cap is real
and Dak Prescott is like, I'm not giving up a dime,
then I don't know if I can pay all the guys.
I mean seriously, that's somebody being giving me a deal.
We have to make a choice. Then they have to

(12:34):
pick two or the three. Somebody gotta golden if you
can't pay. That's what happens. That happens as the Patriots
ask all these other teams they have to give up
some of these good players because they can't pay them off.
That's okay, That's where and I know the running look again,
is Egiel Elliott best running back in the league? But
I'm I might be willing to say, let me just

(12:54):
see we got the best offensive line in football. Let
me see what happens the first few weeks of the season.
You can remounting to you, you acting like that would
throw away the season? What happened when they went owing
to without Emmy Smith? No, they won a Super Bowl. Yeah,
but they came running back to him and when they
were owing to night and I would go running back

(13:15):
to Zeke if I had to. The only the only
their perspective, I don't. It's not like there's no cap
and they can just throw money around all day. Won
But the only difference is with that team was that
they had already won, okay, and this team hasn't won,
hasn't been to the NFC Title games. Is ninety five.
So I get what you're saying, which to wait and see.

(13:38):
But what if you disrupt this team by doing this?
Or Zekie only comes back and isn't the guy you
know what I mean, because he wasn't getting a reps at,
he's rusting. It takes him another two weeks before he's
back in the game shape. And now you're one and three.
That's all I'm saying. Why would you wreck a season?
The Giants already lost three wide receivers, they got an

(13:58):
old quarterback, the Eagles coming back beat the Giants without
I don't know, I'm saying. If you I mean, just
they should right, That's what I'm saying. And then I
might only go one game if we beat the Giants.
But our running game is horrible and it's a close
game or whatever. Then I might just say, you know what,
let's get Zeke back now. If I win both games

(14:18):
and we can't run the football, knowing that these two
teams Washington and New York aren't very good, then I
might say, you know what, we gotta get Zeke back.
If you got a real chance to win this thing,
and if you go owing to Zeke says the price
just went up. I need more, you need me, right,
you coming back together? Right, that's right. That's another risk
where he says, oh, the contract we talked about before

(14:40):
the city on. No, I don't want to I want more.
I want ten million more because here's the thing, right,
and I get and I'm with you in philosophy and theory,
you know, philosophically, I want the players to get paid.
I think the running backs are getting screwed. I hope
they get a new deal and the next bargaining agreement
where they are not locked up for the first five
years of their career. But look at Todd Gurley. The

(15:03):
Rams really messed this thing up. They didn't have to
pay Girly that contract when they did. Now they're talking
about he might not practice you know, he he he
won't play any of the preseason games, which isn't that big,
but he's not gonna practice a lot like they're treating
him like he's damaged goods. But the only problem I
have with the girl is that's easy to do after
the fact when he rushed over when they went early

(15:26):
on the contract. I'm sorry. I know he was so
early in this deal, what was it after his third year,
but he didn't have to do it when he went
when he ran over the Cowboys in that playoffs came in,
ain't nobody was talking about that. They didn't want to
pay Todd Girle, is what I'm saying, and that Noah,
but they just didn't have to. That's my thought. Like
and that, and I give the crunning backs credit. They
looked looking at that, they're looking at Levean Belle. You know,

(15:49):
Bell didn't get as much as he thought he would,
but he did get his guaranteed money and he got
he got his guaranteed money and he's fresh for anohing,
you know what I mean, without his body being right
broken up after last year by not playing right. So
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We threw it out to the callers, to the listeners
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Should the Cowboys
break the break the bank right now? To pay Zeke?
What do you think? All right? Sean and Sacramento, You're
on the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Sean? Man?

(18:22):
I must have been saying, Oh yeah, it's like Chris Man,
we got the odd couple back together. Man in the
full force. Man, I'm loving it back in full effect.
Good to be back, no doubt. Speaking of which, who
did y'all do the Oh yeah without me? Oh yeah,
everybody you're doing held it off for a whole minute. Man,
He's over there trying to lose all of his breath
doing that. Oh yeah, yeah, I gotta step my game up.

(18:44):
He did it for a minute, and his girlfriend texting
and said, yeah, that was long. That's part for the course. Yeah,
there you go. That wouldn't be Magic City. Monday robbed
it and dropped one. Killed touch a little bit. You're
the one for me, all right, Gay? What you got?

(19:06):
So my tech did? Man? Hey, Chris must have been
in that East Coast heatwave because he came back spitting fire. Man.
There's no reason for Dallas and spend that money right
now on the running back. Man, he has two years
until his contracts up. You don't win in this league
unless you pay your quarterback. And on top of that,
we all know that Dallas is the product of that
offensive line. So as long as they keep that offensive
line and tag zekas O kicking the Couples Ton Lucas

(19:26):
for another two years. Next, CEO beach outs out there
after the Patriots long as big round. They don't need that. Nah.
But Sean, here's what you're wrong. Look at their record
without Ezekiel Elliott and when you just have the offensive
line in dak and it ain't the same team that
told your just facts him all right, Chris. It hasn't
been there four and four without him there like twenty
eight and twelve with him. But Tyrone Smith, whn't he hurt?

(19:50):
I think he was hurt for a little bit of that.
Oh yeah, he was hurt for like six game last
year and then also the NFC weeks. Dack is not
the same when he doesn't never running back. I'm just
I'm I'm telling you they know when to test it,
That's all I'm saying. I'm with you, Rod, but I'd
be willing to test it, especially when we think we
got this hot new offense. You know, Hey, can we

(20:10):
get can we get Jerry Jones on line one? You
got time to wait, Jerry? Can you hang on? Can
you hang on for eight more years? Jerry to win
the Super Bowl. I'm just saying, how about e W
and DC. You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports
Radio is up? Hey, gentlemen, how y'all doing tonight? Doing great? Man?
How are you good? I got two points, and that

(20:31):
is I trying to agree with you Rod as relationship,
this being the time the stars are aligning for us
and this is probably our yet right here. But on
the second, on the second thought, Ezekiel, his condimnated hard
was his Austerfield antics and you know, I mean you're
making an investment in that counterbehavior. Hey, can I e W.

(20:51):
I'm gonna let you finish. Jerry Jones has done nothing
but sign uh felons people beat up man, I'm not
I'm being serious hard great glory run that all types
of problem, Michael Urvan. So all I'm saying in W
you can't use that as an excuse because Jerry Jones

(21:14):
has welcome all those guys into his organization. That's all
I'm a say. You think they all will have gotten
the kind of money that Zeke is going to be
demanding what you guys got paid some of them. I'm
just saying you can't use that now as as oh
you're not a choir boy, because that's not what he's about.
That's all I'm saying to you that. All right, here's
the other one. Let me just drop the bottom with you, guys. Um,

(21:35):
this could be the next Hersey Walker deal as well.
I mean, if things don't work out. I mean, we
got a guy named Tony Pollard coming out of college
making a lot of noise. I don't know if he's
gonna pan out, but if, in fact we decided to
put him on the block, put Zeki on the trading block,
that would bring the Cowboys some draft picks and some
good plans for the next stake three to five years,

(21:56):
which actually, like Mike Weber too state. You know again,
I'm not saying there Zeke. I'm just saying Rob, I'd
be willing to test it, that's all. Yeah, all I'm
saying is I'm not I wouldn't do it. Let's go
to Niemen in Montana. You're on the odd couple Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Niemen? What's up? Guys? How you been?
How you been? Great? Man? How are you? I'm good.

(22:19):
I'm glad I can start calling in again. I don't
know anything about basketball, So all right, that's coming from
the guy who U who picked up I don't know anything,
but I picked the Raptors in six. You remember that
I'm the one who I was also the one who

(22:40):
said Kawhi wasn't going to the Lakers. That's my that's
my ace in the hole for the rest of the
year ahead. So I totally agree with you guys that
they should pay the players, especially the running backs. They're
putting their bodies on the line. Every player could be
the potential of a car accident. But I guess where
I got where I got to think about it is

(23:01):
from Jerry Jones's standpoint. It is a quarterback league. So
if you got a quarterback that you trust and you
have faith in, who are you going to invest your
money in the future behind the center or the future
behind the quarterback. So I think that I would I
would pass on Zeke and invest my time in a
quarterback that I believe in, especially in this league nowadays,

(23:23):
rather than throwing out the money for Zeke. Yeah, you
kind of have to go with the QB over the
running back. And Zeke is a better running back than
Dak is. A quarterback like Dak's nowhere near the best
quarterback in the league. We say Zeke is the best
running back, but when that pole came out, he was
third tier guys won games and one two or three

(23:43):
two or to three last NFC's right, Yeah, it's just
an unfortunate situation that Zeke finds himself in. I think,
and I get what he's doing, but you know, if
I'm on the other side, I think I'm playing some hardball.
All right, What are the chances the Cowboys open the
season without Zekiel Elliott on their active roster? Will being
in a guy that knows as much about it as anyone.

(24:05):
Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports has the answer next, but
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currently at the Denver Broncos training camp. He's already been
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He is Yahoo Sports Senior NFL reporter and the host

(24:48):
of the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast, Mister Charles Robinson, Charles,
what's happening man? Welcome to the Eye Couple. Hey Charles, Hey, Chris,
I got up for disclosure. I've known Charles for a
gazillion years when he was first starting out back in
Detroit at working at the Oakland Press. You're not as

(25:09):
old as No, he's not. He was young. He was
a young guy, and now he's a big star. Yeah, Charles,
all right, that was back in the ninety Yeah, yeah, Robin.
I spilled some of the same blood and some of
the same mud in Detroit. You know it. You know it.
So you got some story. I have to call you offline,
all right, Charles. Let's start with, of course, uh you said, uh,

(25:33):
well we wanted to talk about the cow Cowboys, Let's
do that. Yeah, yeah, and just about the hold up
by Ezekiel Elliott, And uh, do you think that the Cowboys,
given what they have on the line and the chance
to really, uh maybe get to the Super Bowl or whatever.
Would would play around with this and let this let
him sit out the start of the season or is

(25:53):
this something they need to get settled. It's not critical
right now. And the reason why is because they did
a couple of offensive installs in the off season, you know,
through OTAs and through full squad mini camps, and Zeke
was there for both of us. So just from the
standpoint of, you know, the first couple of weeks of
training camp, it's practicing those installs, just getting the plays down,

(26:18):
getting the verbiage down, all that stuff. Well, you know,
Zeke's a VET, he's a smart guy. He's he picks
up things really fast, and he was already kind of
through this system as they start to change under the
new OC there, Kellen Moore, you know this offseason. So
I don't think, you know, they're not hitting the panic
button yet, but I mean they're playing hardball with them.
There's no doubt about it. They have sat there and

(26:40):
they've looked at their cap situation, They've looked at the
imbalance they're going to have between offense and defense once
they do extensions with Zeke, Amari Cooper Dak Prescott, they're
probably gonna lose Lyle Collins off the line. They're probably
gonna lose Byron Jones, who's a cornerback who's gonna make
a ton of money in free agency, and so, you know,

(27:01):
I think they're trying to get a win at the
negotiating table with all three of those guys. Frankly, I
think they would like somewhat team friendly deals. I just
don't know. If they're there, they're there to be had,
and I just I'd be stunned if Zeke's camp, at
this point, having gone through all this and built this
up over the last month of preparation, comes in for

(27:23):
anything less than than the Todd Gurley deal. And if
they do, it's a massive, really l on their part
because they planned on winning this. They've been putting this
in motion for a month, and anything less than getting
an extension that they want is a loss. Charles, I
don't know this the NFL salary cap instructure, like I
know the NBA's, but can they pay Dak is talking

(27:47):
like he's not taking any type of team friendly deal, right.
You know, Maury doesn't seem to be a problem. He's
fine with the contract playing out the last year. But
can they pay if Dad doesn't take a discount and
Zeke wants todd early or better money? Can they pay
all three of these guys? Like? Can they really do it?
Or is something has to give? They can? I mean,

(28:09):
they definitely can, but it's just like what do you
want to sacrifice down the line? And I think the
guy that they're really worried about is linebacker Jalen Smith.
I mean, I think they've they've identified and it's funny
because you know, so I think there are some people
out there are going they're identifying the wrong defensive guy.
Like there you talk to their pro personnel guys and
they're like, I don't know, man, I would rather have

(28:29):
you know. What I feel like is a top tier
corner nowadays than an elite level linebacker. But you know,
Jalen Smith is a special player. He's gotten to the
point where I think he's pretty much one hundred percent
back from the injury that he suffered at Notre Dame.
And you know, I think they feel like he gives
a linebacking core enough flexibility to do some different things.
He could be a pass rusher in certain packages, things

(28:51):
like that. So their biggest priority is just like, look,
let's get the deals right for these three offensive guys
and retain the ability to sign Jalen Smith. I think
what's hanging this up for Zeke's camp in particular is
that I think they believe deep down that the plan
for Zeke has always been maybe a six year plan.
Write him out through his four years, give him the

(29:13):
fifth year option on his rookie deal, franchise tag him
one year, and then let him walk, like basically use
up his best years, and then not commit to him
beyond that. And I think that's why you're seeing this
hold out now in year three, because after year three,
because they think if he's going to get money from
the Cowboys, this is the time to get it right
now this offseason. Otherwise we're going to play into their

(29:35):
hands and they're just going to run out the clock
on him. And you know what this is the couple
of Fox Sports Radio I guests, of course, Charles Robinson
from Yahoo Sports. He's a senior NFL reporter and host
of the Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. And Charles, I think
Zeke is going to win this because the clock keeps
ticking on Jerry Jones. He desperately. I know he's already

(29:59):
in the Hall of Fame, but he wants to win again.
Hasn't won since Jimmy Johnson took his ball and went home.
I know they won the next year, but haven't done anything.
Haven't meant to the NFC Championship game since nineteen ninety five.
And at some point you can't play around. You know,
windows come open and close in the NFL. I just

(30:21):
can't see how they won't pay this guy, especially when
you look at the record and the team win, Ezekiel
plays and when he doesn't. Yeah, I mean, look the
desperation in terms of Jerry Jones at this point, I
mean it's peak. It's peaked desperation like it. And if
you've been around Jerry the last three, four or five years,
you know the ages you're seeing it. You know it's

(30:44):
starting either they're starting to see some of the age
with Jerry, and you're starting to see even in operations.
You know, when this thing started. You know, I was
talking to some of my people with the Cowboys and
they're like, yeah, you know Stephen Jones, his son's spearheading this.
You know, Steven has been doing most of the deals
he's really running point on a lot of things. I said,
where's Jerry, and they're like, yo, he's on a super

(31:04):
yacht in the Mediterranean right now. So I you know,
I think Jerry is taking a back seat up until
this point. You know. I know, he came out and
he did he did a television interview with a Dallas
area station and said, you know, hey, you don't need
a rushing champ, you know, to win a super Bowl.
That's some tough talk, you know. And I think he's

(31:25):
he's backing up Stephen to a point. But I also
think Jerry's no fool, and he knows this is the
last year Jason Garrett's contract. We've pushed all our chips
on this year to try and get done what we can. Yeah.
So I think at some point Jerry, if this lingers
on and we get into two weeks, three weeks, and
pretty soon we're halfway through the preseason, I think you
can see some motivation by Jerry to go, you know what,

(31:47):
let's figure this out. Let's pay him and get him
in here so you don't see them. I've said, maybe
they try to do what they did with em Miss Smith.
I know it was a long time ago. But see
how the last time you got a new offensive coordinate.
You know they I've read all these rave reviews about
you know, the pre snap motion and they're gonna let
Daks go deep and all that stuff. Is there any

(32:09):
chance you think they would say, look our first two
games or the Giants, the Redskins, we got Miami after that,
let's start the season without Zeke. See how it looks.
And then you know, if we have to go back
to him, we will, but you know, maybe he'll have
to come back to us if we look good without him. Well,
first off, let's not forget that that that holdout or
that that whole deal ended after Charles Hayley put a

(32:30):
helmet through the wall after two games and said, what
are we doing right? Get this done? You know? So
I look, I think the complication there for Dallas waiting
is that so much of this offense is geared through
as you said, you've seen the numbers. I mean, it
really is an offense streamline through Zeke. Now do you

(32:51):
have the time to try to go flexible and say,
all right, we're gonna actually tilt more of this on
the DAK and try to make this more of a
passing offense that it has been, or an rpo offense
than it has been, and you know, try to weather
this through the first couple of games. You could do that,
but I just don't see them saying, hey, let's retool

(33:12):
who we are so that we can play this game
of chicken in the regular season. I just I think, really,
when push comes to shove, Jerry's going to sit there
and go, look out of these three, you know, Dakamar
and Zeke, which guy has the argument to be sort
of a market center to be the guy that you know,
we want to pay. And I think Jerry can sit
there and go, let's pay them, but let's structure it

(33:34):
in a way that if we have to get out
of this, maybe we can get out after two years
and it'll be a little painful, but let's just pay
them and structure it in a way that gives us
some flexibility in twenty twenty two. All right, great stuff, man,
We appreciate the knowledge. That's Charles Robbins. It means everything

(33:55):
to be rob Man. Seriously, you have no idea. I'm serious, man,
I remember you were young, just getting started, and you've
done a really great job. And I've watched your career
and I'm very happy for you. It's been a long
time since the Marty Morning Wad days. That's right, you
know it. We're out there and I was causing havoc
back then, you know it. Yes, you were all right, Charles,

(34:17):
Thanks a lot, man. We appreciate it, all right, Take
care of guys. Always got pleasure, all right. A coach
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magic city in Virginia, Vas. Oh yeah, it was family time, man.

(35:04):
I'm sorry. Me and the missus had a little bit
of magic. The bad room is undefiled. It was good
to have a little vacation. Sack. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
but uh Rob the Baltimore Ravens, and I'm pulling for

(35:26):
the guy, all right, I'm pulling for Lamar jo had
he had a fantastic rookie year. He did. You and
I both thought, did we think? Did we say he
should have been UH Rookie of the Year? No, No,
didn't we know it wasn't it was no where you're
thinking of. No. We both went with Kwan right right,
right right, Okay, But anyway, he had a great win.

(35:48):
He led him to the playoffs. He was good. But
I look, I think that they are playing with fire
down in Baltimore. John Harbaugh, Who's John was really saved
by Lamar Jackson. Let's just keep it real. He was
asked on NFL Network on Sunday if Lamar Jackson would

(36:10):
run the ball more than Cam Newton did when Cam
rushed for a career high one hundred and thirty nine
attempts a few years ago, and Hardball said, I would
take the over. Now, last year he only started eight games,
and Lamar Jackson ran for one hundred and forty seven attempts,
and that's more than any other quarterback in NFL history.

(36:33):
But I don't think two things. One, I'd be shocked
if he remained upright, If he's gonna run the ball
that much in the NFL, no, Cam Newton gets broken
up and he doesn't run as much, and he's twice
as big, all right, Number two, I don't think you
can win big that way. I'm a lot of people

(36:54):
are high on the Ravens. I'm not this year. I mean,
I think they'll be good as they normally are, but
I like both the Steelers and the Browns better in
that division. I like the Ravens better than the Browns.
I don't think the Browns gonna make the playoffs, but
we'll go as time goes on. And but I look,
the one team that saw the Ravens twice last year
was saying it was the Chargers, the LA Chargers, and

(37:17):
they shut them down the second time. They had trouble
the first time with him. Second time they see him
in the playoff, absolutely shut him down. I don't want
to hear about how they scored in the second half.
They were right right. So I just think it's I don't.
I don't think he can they can play that way
and win big in the NFL. Yeah, I'm surprised that

(37:38):
they're gonna go to that route. Because it just hasn't worked.
I mean, you gotta get this guy a Lamar Jackson
to throw the football as well. You gotta make him unpredictable, Chris,
Otherwise he's gonna get hurt in this league. So I
don't like the game plan. Yeah, and I do have
questions or as to whether he can throw well enough.
I know, you know you hear come up with. Yeah. Yeah,

(38:00):
maybe you at the very least make it easy for
him with some passes out into the flats or something.
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(38:23):
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(38:46):
yourself a free rate quote. Rob, I read something that
just blew me away recently. All right, Chris, before we
get there real quick, you know we have that Twitter
poll out. I just want to mention it. Yes, all right,
we get there real quick. So we have a Twitter
poll out that's doing extremely well out there. I think
at last, look what we have fifteen what we have

(39:09):
fifty fifteen fifty one Chris responses and our Twitter poll one? Okay, yes,
I'm sorry, And and the poll is in honor of
you gotta go to Twitter, go to uh is it?
Is it the uh odd couple or either one of
our our Twitter okay, so either Chris Broussard, Chris Underscore

(39:32):
Broussard or at Rob Parker FS one. And here's the
part I just want to get out real quick in
honor of National Chicken Wing Day, the Odd Couple at
Chris Boussard at Rob Parker fast one. I want to
know do boneless wings count as chicken wings? Yes? Or no?
And it's just interesting do we have Rob g who's

(39:54):
leading in this? I don't see that on the poll.
I got it right here right with over fifteen hundred votes.
Like he said, fifty eight percent of our listeners say no,
they do not care. There we go, smart listeners. It's close, though,
I'm surprised it's that closet bigger. I'm not gonna give
my answer. We're gonna talk about that later on the show.
But yeah, it's only fifty eight percent. That's close. The

(40:17):
eight percent, all right, Chris, So I just want to
make sure we threw that out there. So if you
want to try, there's still time if you want to vote,
so go to either one of our twitters and definitely
Castro ballot. Yes, yes, all right. Like I was saying, Rob,
I read something that just blew me away. But the
more I read, the more I thought about it, it

(40:39):
actually made some sense. Bucky Brooks our good friend, friend
of the show. He was my confess one NFL analyst.
He wrote a column on NFL dot com. You remember
he's a former player and front office person. Doesn't mean
that you can't be wrong. I'm just saying he said
that Aaron Rodgers is overrated. In fact, he said he's

(41:05):
so overrated that he is not even in Bucky's top
five quarterbacks in the NFL. He had Patrick Mahomes, he
had Philip Rivers number two, Drew Brees number three, Tom Brady,

(41:26):
You're new Nemesis number four, and Russell Wilson number five.
Now I'm gonna let you respond before I weigh in
with the knowledge. But go ahead, I don't have knowledge
what you're trying to say. I think I think you've
got too much. I think you got too much sunshine
down in Virginia, beach Y. I love Aaron Rodgers. I'd

(41:48):
be shocked if anything critical came out of your mouth
about Aaron Rodgers. All I'm gonna say is, no, he's
not perfect. But Bucky Brooks could not be more wrong.
And this is one of those times. And Bucky Brooks, yes,
he played football. You all that. You could put out
your list and come up with whatever you want. You
could say that he's been down and he hasn't played well,

(42:09):
and he's been injured, and I'll give you all of
that stuff. But to say a guy who has several
career passing records in the history of the league, who
has the lowest single season and career interception raid, who
also has the best quarterback rating in the history of
the National Football League, not the last ten years. Anybody

(42:31):
who's ever played quarterback, he has. He has the highest
quarterback rating of anybody. To tell me that that guy's
overrated is the most ridiculous thing that Bucky Brooks could
have ever put out. It doesn't make any sense. The
guy won two MVPs, not one. He didn't fluke into one.
He has seven Pro Bowls, first time All Pro Team twice.

(42:55):
I can go on and on hear his records. Chris
three point one of three point one passer rating career
best one twenty two point five passer rating in a
season that's a record twenty eleven four point two three
touchdowns to every interception that's a career record one point
two five one point five. The lowest interception percentage career

(43:20):
one point zero zero point three. Lowest interception percentage in
a season that was twenty eighteen, four hundred and two
consecutive passes without an interception. Those are all of his records.
He has eight NFL records. How could he be overrated
if you want to say that he's slipping and he's
not as good as he once was. But to say

(43:43):
a guy was overrated when I just read you eight
records and the all time leading quarterback rating in the
history of the National Football League. Bucky Brooks, you're crazy,
You're misugarnaw. You don't know what you're talking about when
it comes to football. I'm talking about a quarterback. No,
you don't because something that makes sense to say, stop off.

(44:06):
I look, I'm with you in that. Aaron Rodgers. I
don't know how in the world you leave him out
of your top five quarterbacks in the league. He's better
than Russell Wilson period. That's not even debatable. All right, now,
other ones if you want to debate, but I you know,
he's definitely a top five quarterback. But here's where I
think Bucky makes a good point. We talk about Aaron

(44:29):
Rodgers in these historic ways. He's become this mythical figure
time and time again. You hear people say the best
I've ever seen throw the football, the best I've ever
seen play the position. Nobody calls him to go because
we we factor in super Bowls with that and we
say it's Tom Brady or Joe mcanna. But people talk

(44:53):
about him religiously as the best they've ever seen do it.
And Bucky makes a good point Rob that here's the fact,
since midway through the twenty fifteen season, Aaron Rodgers is
a five hundred quarterback. But Chris that is two four,
twenty four and one. But that's completion. Hold on, let

(45:15):
me finish. I'll let you throw out all your numbers.
Most of them were from years ago and maybe from
twenty eighteen. To hear the reception rate is because he
throws the ball away so much. No, that's because he
throws it out of bound so much. So you should
throw it in the coverage when somebody's double covered. Is
that what you should? In other quarters? No, small hairs

(45:35):
used to run out at the time. And Frank o'hiris
two hutches marbles and he can walk. Don't tell me
Frank o'hiris was dumb. He look, here's the thing. He
is a sixty two point seven percent completion rate the
last since that midway through the twenty fifteen season, and
a ninety six point four passer ray and you talked
about his all time career high passer rating three. In

(45:57):
the last four years, he's been under ninety eight percent
as far as a passer rating or under ninety eight,
So he is slipping like I'm not ready to go
as far as Bucky, but he needs to have a
big time year. You and I both I believe you
were with me, but I certainly picked him to be
the MVP last season and he didn't get it done.

(46:19):
And I think there are some similarities to a Lebron James,
although obviously Lebron's won more, but airing like I've always
talked about how Lebron becomes the system for his team,
which can hurt them sometimes. Yeah, but if Aaron Rodgers
scrambles and add libs and doesn't want to make the

(46:39):
easy little throw and he needs to let like, now
you got Matt Lafleur, who's got a system that will
be easier for you. But we've seen little hints that
maybe Rogers is pushing back. He wants to continue to
add lib he wants to do it his way, he
wants to make the hard pass rather than the just
the easy pass to the running back. And I'm just

(47:01):
saying those things. When you talk about Rogers in historic terms,
the best we've ever seen, maybe that is a little
bit overrated. Why hasn't he won moreph he's the best
we've ever seen, because you can't as a quarterback there's
other things that good that are involved in it, like defense.
And you know this, Chris, And this is what Bucky

(47:24):
Brooks knows. That defense has given up forty or more
points in three years in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers could
put up forty points and lose because the defense has
been that better. I'm not making an excuse, but you
can't just ignore it. And the years that he's been
there in a Green Bay, they've won the division that
they're in like eight times. I mean, it's not what

(47:46):
it's all about. You know what, you will be the
first know. But matter, Chris, you gotta be fair from
the standpoint to say that that the reason that they've
lost is because Aaron Rodgers improvises. I'm saying, I'm just
that can be that. I agree with you on the defense,
but I'm saying the fact is, we talk about this

(48:09):
guy is essentially the goat dude. You don't put that
title on him because he hadn't won more Super Bowls,
but we essentially say he's the greatest we've ever seen
to do it. And so we're nitpicking, and I'm saying,
I think sometimes he needs to let the offense work
for him rather than always trying to make the hardest play.
I just think Bucky Brooks a very nice job to

(48:30):
get your name out there and get people talking. And
I hey, I respect his last two respect knowledge, but
is not the rightless starter. What it's not like we
just say air rider. They just have quarterback today. They
just want to say he's the best we've ever seen.
They just had a poll of all the executives. Did
you read it in the Athletic You're on vacation, and

(48:52):
he was ranked number one. This was just him. It
prompted Buck that I know. So you mean to tell
me that people who in the year in the league,
they don't think they're they're misguided from what they're seeing
the last two years. He's ten twelve and one is
a start. It's not just about the records, but cham
what about the records? He onlything you have. No. I

(49:16):
got to Tom Brady. As much as you hate on
Tom Brady, statistically at forty one years old, had a
better season last year than Aaron Rodd. You just said, oh,
you name records, they were all old. He just set
the record in twenty eighteen. Yeah for Lawrence interceptions. I
told you he's throwing the ball out of bounds rather
than showing it in the coverage. Oh, he should throw

(49:38):
it in the coverage? Is come on, stop, what I'm
even make sense? What I'm saying is this. We don't
call him the best quarterback in the league. We call
him the best we've ever seen. Is the best guy
I've ever seen? You down to see more. It's up
for the bad name. Just tell me the guy you've seen,
hut who can do everything that he can do? Chris,
I want to hear who he's the best? If the

(49:59):
master and you go quarter the go factors in a
lot of stuff. Tom Brady is not quarterback We've got.
Tom Brady is not the best quarterback you've ever seen.
That's why that's why he was drafted six because even
when he was at Michigan six rounds, that's oh, I'm there,
and he went ten years without winning six Chris, go,
let's go look at this goal. Let's go look at

(50:21):
the ten years we was there. When did they win
the twenty two? I want you to go back and
tell me you went talking Tom Brady the greatest ever saw.
He went ten years without winning Did you remember that?
Ten years? As Rogers gone. If you want eight it's
been eight years. But I'm telling you Brady went. But
Brady went ten years without winning. Yeah, but he's made up,

(50:42):
thank you. That's my point. And now all he's doing
great receiver. He is dinking and duncan He dinks and
dunks sole the ball as Sony Michelle. He wants just
with dincon dunk. You don't have a you know, I'm
a Sony Michelle. That's the problem. Rogers doesn't. No, I've
never had a running game. I'd argue that for the

(51:04):
most part, his receivers have been better than Brady's outside
of Randy Mossy, Wes Welker. We's Welker's a good points
oh Ud, He's what come on, man, you know this
Bucky Brooks, ma'am just wait time. But I am saying

(51:30):
Rob that we call him the greatest of all time.
I want to see him deliver. This year we've taught,
We've blamed Mike McCarthy, We've blamed the stagnant offense. We
blame there's not enough motion and all that stuff. This year,
you gotta coach you once and incorporate all of that.
Let it be, Let it happen. If Rogers has a
break great season, I'll be the first to say, you

(51:53):
know what, he is the greatest we've ever seen. But
it's been a few years now of not the greatest
play we've ever seen in that position. That's all I'm saying.
You gotta admit that. Rob. I could not disagree more.
I'm telling you, I just think, if you're honest with it,
take a look at what this guy's done, what he's
been able to do at all. I'm saying stuff you

(52:15):
said other than I just gave. You know it ain't
to have the greatest quarter our break greatest and then
go look it up. You want to look it up.
He went ten years what I went, Rogers, I'm talking
and he's got one the great I'm talking about. You
can do what you can tell all you want. Ain't nobody,
and you heard me, ain't nobody with the greatest quarterback

(52:36):
rating in the history of the league is overrated. That
don't even make sense. So Bucky Brook to look at
his completed he's rated as the best we've ever known.
What I'm talking about, he has the best quarterback ratio
of all time. That doesn't mean you're the best, but
you can't be overrated? Is it that simple? But you
can't be overrated? It is what I'm trying to tell
you can No, you can't. If everybody sets them the best,

(53:00):
he played a position and and he measures up. If
I say he's the best, and then you go, he
has the best quarterback Rady that measures up, It matches.
It's more than you know that. It's more than that
one thing. The intangible overrated. It's a ridiculous quarterback. It's
not just strongest arm. It's not just who can make

(53:20):
all the throws. It's the intangibles. And that's where I'm
not gonna say he's lacking all of them. I hope
he doesn't stack up with Montana, I hope and Brady
and those guys when it comes to the intangible. I
hope Bucky Books doesn't want to be a GM because
he officially lost any chance of that job. Where he's ready,
he'll be hearing about can't teen minutes, can't wait. Let's

(53:41):
let the listeners weigh in. At this stage, is the
in his career? Is Aaron Rodgers overrated eight seven seven
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(54:25):
all right, it was heated a minute ago. Rob Parker's
panties in a bunch they are Bucky Brooks had the
nerve to criticize Aaron Rodgers. I felt like, when I
say something about baseball, you're jumping all over me. Hey
hey you could? You could? You know what? There's a
lot of stuff he could say and rightfully sold to criticize.

(54:47):
I just think it overrated is not the right term.
That's all right, that's my biggest complaint. Let's see what
the listeners think. A seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Let's hear him Rob All right, Let's start with Craig
and Mayne. You're on the eye couple, Fox Sports Radio.
What's up Craig, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call, Yes, sir, yeah,
all right. The reason he's overrated is because he doesn't win.

(55:08):
He does not have any comeback signature wins all the time,
wins in his whole career, maybe one or two. He
doesn't care about winning. And Tom Brady ten years, he
only had over one hundred and twenty wins and all
including playoffs, So winning does matter, thank you? Yeah, but
what do you what do you mean? He doesn't kill,
don't have nothing to do with whether or not you

(55:29):
a good quarterback. Overrated is not the right word. And
my boy, but Rob we rat him is number one.
He is not. He is. Why didn't win more? Even even?
And Tom Brady's coming off with Super Bowl and all
and the executives in the league, Victor Aaron Rodgers, Oh no,

(55:52):
because he's not as good. He just won a super
Bowl with no touchdowns? Did you watch it? Did you
watch the Super Bowl? He don't like a forty one
year old super Bowl with no touchdown? Course, Sony Michelle
get the Tony Michelle absolutely stop it, Brian, Brian and
San Diego. You're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

(56:12):
What's up, Brian, what's going on? Guys? Love the show.
Welcome back from your hiatus. That Chris, thank you, my man. Hey,
I gotta put this on rib I know you got
knowledge here. Hey. I love you to death, Chris, but
I'm about to disagree with he is not overrated in
the last ten years. Who was his leading rusher in

(56:33):
the last man? Okay, and what and what time? They
have a top ten defense? They haven't exactly what was
Give me the name of his best wide receiver. I
can throw a bunch of we are guy. No, no, no,

(56:54):
I said his best wide receiver. I didn't say, give
me a list of who's played with him. I said,
give me his best wide receiver. He's best receiver. Who's
braking receiver? I'm not I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers. I'm
just I don't know who who would you call his
best that's my play. He hasn't had all the twols
around him. Brandy maw stopping yeah, and he didn't win.

(57:20):
I'm Super Bowl. No, I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers, who
was his best wide receiver? That's weak, that's the that's
the best. Say. Look, I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers isn't
an all time great. I'm just saying I want to
see something this year for us to keep calling him
the best. Brian, it's the most ridiculous thing to say,

(57:41):
the guy with the best quarterback rating in the history
to leave. That's all point and quarterback exactly. And you
can't even that. Nobody can even name those plays. It
all boils that same thing and the same thing. No,
it's not only that, but that's a big Keep going
to brill you're in Atlanta, you're on the d couple

(58:02):
of Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, Chris rob got you today,
no doubt. Good tell him he got he got you today.
Even even Tom Brady said about his own mouth that
he think Aaron Rodgers is better than him. Nice. No,
I didn't. No, you won't be nice in the NFL
is a better individual? I give you that, he said.

(58:25):
Player who's telling tell him what he says? He wont
Brady won the most, But look at the system he
is and every time he won't pea build a decent
every time. What about the intangent and what he's saying
where if Aaron Rodgers would played with the Patriots, they
would have won ten super But it's the system. Look

(58:46):
how quick, look how quick? They said, the players Tom
Brady to get it out. What about the players he's got? Huh?
What about that? The receivers that Brady throws too. Julian
and Brandy Master were undefeated that Randy Moll he said, yeah,
that was the first time. That's when I first started
thinking he was to go because I was like, Wow,

(59:07):
give him a receiver, a great receiver, and it's here.
He ain't even to go. He's yeah, there you go,
Thank you, thank you very much. That ain't my cousin
Texan Martian Kentucky. You're the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What you got, Marty? What's up? Sal's welcome back, Chris.
We had sun like you Gars, kind of like the

(59:28):
teacher was away. That's right. They thank you, brother, thank you.
I just because I do agree with Rob about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,
I don't do his Rob when his opinions are grady,
but I do think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback
in the game right now. I know the last two
years have been a little slow, but he has been
banged up, and it hasn't been his faults. These injuries

(59:52):
he's gotten has been failure at the line. It hasn't
been because he's been holding artist the ball too long.
They just got offensive life issues there and he's been
banking up last a couple of years. But I've never
seen him with grader and in football, I just don't
measure everything on wins when every when it when it
takes so much a system in so many different positions.
I don't know Dan Marino is better than Eli Manning.

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Dan Marino is not, and he never won. Absolutely, That's
a great point, Marty. Dan Marino was better and he
couldn't and he didn't win better than Eli man No
wan two super Bowls or Eli won two super Bowls.
Who's it ain't just about winning? You used that, You
used the six super Bowls for Tom Brady. And he's saying,
even though two, Eli doesn't have the individual But Eli

(01:00:39):
won twice one two MVPs. But he's not better than
mediocre at best, But he ain't better. I'm just saying, No,
of course he's not. But I'm not just using it.
I'm saying. What I'm saying is this, I think La Fleur. Now,
maybe La Fleur is isn't all that we'll see, but
he wants to put in a system to make things
easier for Rogers, and I want to see a big
year from it because I like him. I'm not going

(01:01:01):
as far as Bucky, but I'm just saying, maybe we
might need to reconsider this greatest we've ever seen do
it at the position. That's all the brothers saying, all right,
we usually save this kind of stuff for the hot seat,
but I think it's about to get crazy up in here.
The man that called Bucky Brooks overrated, or I'm sorry,

(01:01:21):
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Bucky Brooks, NFL Network and FS one NFL analysts, author
of the story that's said Aaron Rodgers is overrated and

(01:02:04):
not a top five quarterback in the NFL. Bucky, I'm
warning you, rob has got a lot of heat coming
your way. But I want to ask you first and foremost,
explain to the people why you say Aaron Rodgers is overrated. Oh. Well,
like Chris, whenever you do the evaluation, you have to
do it based on where people are at the moment

(01:02:27):
and based on how Aaron Rodgers has played of late.
He hasn't been one of the best quarterbacks in football interns.
Is the number one quarterback? Like he was raped in
Mike Sando's article. You go back to twenty fifteen Week eight.
Since that point, he's twenty four twenty four and one
as a starting quarterback. He's only completing sixty two of

(01:02:47):
his passes. Yeah, the passer rating of ninety six, and
he's coming off a season where he had twenty five
ft time passage, which was tied for twelve is. Completion
percentage was in the middle of the pack. He didn't
he play like the number one players position. So I'm
not wanting to just give away grade. So I'm not
going to just say, hey, he's the number one overall

(01:03:10):
player of the position when he hasn't played like that.
So it's funny is that the Athletic came out with
a poll from fifty five executives who placed him number one,
even though he's coming off, as you said, like a
year where maybe they weren't as good, and I know
he's been injured the last couple of years. You don't

(01:03:31):
factor any of that stuff in when you think about
a guy. I just this is the only problem I have.
When you say he's overrated, you're saying he's overrated for
this year or in general. I'm saying right now this year,
he's not quarterback, hitting into the year into the year.
So I don't think you can rank him ahead of
pad Mahomes. I don't think he had a better year.

(01:03:52):
I don't think he's a number. So it's just based
off of one year. So so when RG three had
his one year, say his base till fifteen. But I'm
just saying, when you look at the last couple of years,
So how can a guy who has the best quarterback
rating and the history and the history of the league.
I just when when when you just to term if

(01:04:12):
you want to tell me he's on the downside, or
you never think he might be back to where he was,
or the injuries of taking a Tollbucky, I could buy
all that. I respect your football knowledge, but to use
the term overrating with a guy who has the best
quarterback rating in the history of the National Football League,
a guys won two MVPs, a guy who has the

(01:04:34):
best touchdown the interception ratio, a guy who holds eight
all those things, he is gonna be in the Hall
of Fame, and who's won the Super Bowl two time MVP.
We can go all over overrated is not a correct
word to use in your analysis. I totally disagree. You
could say slipping getting older, he's got a lot to prove,

(01:04:57):
but overrated no way you. I think we rate him
as most people say, he's the best they've ever seen doing.
You know, they don't call him to go because he
hasn't won as much, but the best he's ever doing.
And I'm saying I'm with you on that. I don't
go quite as far as you, but I'm with you
on Look, I gotta see more if we're gonna keep
saying he's the best we've ever seen played the position,

(01:05:19):
and I'm not even talking about the best year. If
you look, I can say, look, he's the most challenged.
He might be the most talented quarterback that we have,
But in terms of playing the best, he's not playing
his best football. He's not playing the best of anybody
at the position. How can we sit here and say
that based on what he did last year he's playing
better than some of the quarterbacks that were listed. Drew

(01:05:41):
Brees led the league with an NFL record. But you
watch Drew Brees in the playoff game? Did you watch him?
Like Lebron wasn't in the playoffs? Sei the right, So
Lebron shouldn't be considered a great player, Chris, according to you,
you know no, Christians, No, he's not the best. But

(01:06:03):
Christians set because you know he's not. Bucky went back
to twenty fifteen. Point you want to go back there? Press,
My point is period you just used as argument. But
he be my errand didn't play in the playoffs, And
back to I wasn't in the playoffs. That's all I'm
trying to you. Can't ever both, Bucky. Let me ask
you this, how much because Rob and I were debating this.

(01:06:26):
You know he's winning. He's under five hundred in the
last two years, as you said, he's at five hundred
to last what two three and a half years. How
much of that though we know their defense has been
shaky at best. How much of that should you you
not put on Rogers? You know because of the defense. See,
I can't. I can't give him the path like everybody

(01:06:46):
wants to give the path. Oh he doesn't have the coaching.
Oh he doesn't have Oh his defense isn't well. At
some point, why we're playing him thirty million dollars? Were
playing him thirty million dollars to make all that stuff correct? Right?
I see Tom Brady do it? They have anybody, They
have me, you and Rock out there playing wide receiver
and it still win games. At some point, if you're

(01:07:06):
what you say you are, don't you have to elevate it?
So what I'm saying right now, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Westbrook.
So he's talented, but you, Bucky Bucket, stop, Bucky. I
can't even let you say that because that's no, no, no, no, no,
Bucky Bucky, Bucky records. D you know what he doesn't have.

(01:07:27):
He didn't win. He didn't win a damn championship. So
fucking you sound crazy? You sound sound You sound crazy.
You can't mention a guy up who never won a championship.
You're crazy with that. Bucky. You're not trying to be
a general manager of the NFL team, are you? Is
that in your is that in your future? Because your

(01:07:49):
evaluation of telling is terrible. I wouldn't hire you. Hire you.
We're gonna keep eating off his off His one super Bowl,
the super Bowl was ten years? Hey, Bucky Brooks, Bucky Brooks,
how many years did Tom Brady go between winning championships?
I want you to give me the number. No. I

(01:08:10):
want your no, I would Bucky Brooks answer? My dad
Ques be quiet, he's got turn on christ. I want
to talk to Bucky Brooks. Bucky Brooks, I want you
to answer me. How many years did Tom Brady go
between winning Super Bowl? That's all I want you to
give me. So when they won three out of four early,

(01:08:33):
it was probably like a eight or nine year it
was ten years, all right, it was a decade. He's
gonna win five. It was Bacade, Bucky Lucky Stuck. Let
me ask you this, Bucky, I and I love. I
like Aaron Rodgers, I really do. But I'm just starting

(01:08:54):
the one. Let's start. I'm starting to think that his
ad living, his refusal to kind of make the easy pass,
all of that, plus the intangibles, that's what's lacking from him.
Is that a fair assessment? That is a fair assessment.
See like Rob is emotionally and in his feelings right

(01:09:17):
now when I'm talking about Ruth to Westbrook, That's what
I'm talking about. Great does all the things that you
love to see. He's never won anything. At some point,
he has to be able to play within the combat.
He didn't like the coach, so you saw those stories

(01:09:38):
where he talked about waving off the plays from the coach,
doing his own thing. Wants the audible. Like we talk about,
oh maybe he didn't have the best coach, maybe he's
not coachable. In that Vank, I'm just saying, like we
all we're giving him a pass and just saying, hey,
he's the best at the position without critically thinking, you

(01:09:58):
know what, Envy really the best. Let's go back and
look through the numbers. Let's look at the performance, and
the performance is right there for you. The sample size
is not short, twenty four twenty four and one five hundred.
I mean, at some point, don't you have to win games?
You're the quarterback. We judge quarterbacks on wins and ring.
He has one ring and he hasn't won a ton

(01:10:21):
of game. I just don't know how you can say
he's number one overall and not challenge it. I think
that's a mic drop. I ain't a mic drop. I
think that's the worst analysis I've ever heard. Excellent stuff. Stuff,
Thank you, and that GM job when you get that
GM want to be the first show that you appear to.

(01:10:42):
What ain't Bucky? Bucky? When you get your GM job
at the XFL, call us because that's where you belong
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(01:11:23):
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(01:11:45):
journalism experience to the test. Chris, when you were going
on your three week vacation, I was just slaughtering everybody
in here. Oh maybe you weren't going. I'm glad you
got some WS in because that little streak is about
the end what I was reading you before you left.
Don't get don't get it, jest going all right, guys,

(01:12:08):
you know it worked. All these stories not a little
bit real. They all sound a little bit fake. It's
up to you to decide which sources are good, which
sources are bad. Let's get right to it. Story number one.
My sources say that a Nebraska woman wrote a letter
to her city's mayor's office asking them to remove a
sculpture of former Huster's quarterback Eric Crouch because she thought
it looked like a devil worship symbol. Robin source is good, Uh,

(01:12:33):
that is correct. You know, I do think that's true.
You sit on a throne of lies. Do you just
make that whole thing up? You know it was a
spider Man statue. Oh okay, these these are really tough today.
I am I gonna lie. Story number two, My sources

(01:12:54):
say that Jimmy Johnson, the former NFL coach, is being
sued by a Miami local because as the menu in
his restaurant did not explicitly list the drink prices and
the customer felt like he was being overcharged. Chris and
my sources good, he didn't list the drink prices. That's
hard to believe, but I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say

(01:13:20):
that's true. I'm gonna say, uh, false, you sit on
a because I don't think you have to post drink prices.
You have to post food prices though, don't you. I
don't know the law works, but it was the TGI
Fridays they got sued, not Jimmy Johnson's RASSA. I remember

(01:13:40):
being at A. It's been a a restaurant. We're they
don't list to drink prices. But okay, one another thing,
Rob Parker sources say. My sources say story number three
that former NBA swing man Matt Barnes was ejected from
his son's youth basketball game over the weekend and he
had to coach the rest of the game from the hallway.
Rob park My source is good. That's true. You know

(01:14:01):
how Matt gets down. He said that with a lot
of confidence. Uh let me text, man, right, well, you
look at you. You we ain't got time for all that.
I'm gonna say. True. Oh why are you gonna follow me?
Did you see him? Rob? He deliberately he goes like,
Rob said that we stop stalling. He stalling? First day, Chris,

(01:14:25):
He's got Chris? How much time we gotta? Story number
four two to one, Rob Parking up on Christmas. Sorry.
My sources say that during PACTROV media day, a Utah
defensive and was asked what it was like to pay
b Yu in provo, he answered, quote, there's nothing worse
than playing in front of sixty thousand sober white people. Robing.
My source is good. That is so true. I I

(01:14:48):
got man, I think that's true. That is a great
lard lute. That's that's stop stalling. Go ahead, that's you
to all you got how much time you got the door? Say?
How about Mike Tyson sold one of his prize raising
pigeons at a charity auction last week for nine thousand dollars.
Rob Parker, all, my source is good. Let me think

(01:15:11):
about this real quick. False. That's false. Come on, man,
hurry up. You know after ten seconds we get to
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(01:15:57):
Look it's football time, Rob INFL season underway college football
just around the corner, and we are talking all NFL today.
We got a little baseball, don't forget coming up at
the bottom of the hour as well. Well, we'll have
Bob Nightingale with us from USA Today to Major League

(01:16:17):
Baseball columnists, so he will definitely keep us up to
speed on what's going on in the MLB. Like you said,
a lot of trade. Trade deadline is Wednesday is Wednesday,
and this is the only one, Chris, Like, unlike the
past years where you can still get players at the end,
this is it. If you don't get somebody on Wednesday, yep,
you're done. Yep, yep. So we'll look forward to talking

(01:16:37):
to Nightingale, so keep it locked for that. Of course,
that'll be in about thirty minutes. But right now we
are going to continue with the NFL and Philip Rivers,
who is by all accounts an upstanding guy, did something
that I know just greats on Rob Parker of course

(01:16:58):
is running back. Mel Gordon is holding out and he's
not there for training camp, and Rivers of course was
asked about it. This was last this was on Thursday.
Here's what he said. Yeah, they're gonna get a lot
more working, you know. Obviously obviously a handful been here
a little bit longer than than than justin. But you
saw what he did last year in games. He obviously

(01:17:19):
had a heck of an offseason. He made some huge
place for us last year in games. Detrous Knews him
stepped in there and make some big plays for us
and filled in last year in some games. So it
certainly certainly is a deep position for us, and those
guys all love to play and work hard. So, like
I said, we love Melvin, but we're gonna go with
what we got, you know, and it's pretty pretty dan
good group. I mean, I'm sorry if I don't see

(01:17:41):
a problem with anything he said anything he said. He
didn't shoot down Melvin Gordon. He didn't say, you know,
he needs to be more with the team, and he's
still under contract and we're here working. You know, we
get we got guys here ready to work. If he's
not one of them, so be He said none of that.
He said, we love Melvin, but remember Rob Philip Rivers

(01:18:06):
has to ignite his team for all he knows, Melvin
Gordon may not be with him this season. He's got
to breathe the confidence and the other players, the other
running backs, and the fact is he's also telling the truth.
I mean, Austin Eckler and Justin Jackson are good running backs.
And he said nothing against Gordon, but he kept his

(01:18:29):
team upbeat, confident that, look, we want Melvin back. Of
course we're better with him, but if he doesn't come back,
we still believe we still can win. And anybody, any
leader worth is sought. That's what he said. I don't
see what the problem is with that. I just don't.
I just think that when people come to you talking

(01:18:49):
about other people and hold out to money, Melvin Gordon's
a big part of this team. That's a personal thing.
He's trying to get resolved with the franchise. I already
get it's obvious that whoever else is here, if he's
not here, is gonna practice. But there are other guys
who have had support for their teammates, and that's what
that's what he could also do. I'm not nobody's gonna

(01:19:11):
bash him if he would have said, hey, Melvin Gordon
has been a big part of his franchise. We were
really good. We we went and played the Patriots and
the uh what was it the AFC Championship game? No,
was it the the semifinals? Semifinals? Right, because then they
played the Chiefs. But but but uh, talking about other guys.
You could you could also no, no, no. All I'm

(01:19:34):
saying is you could also just give the guys support
and like when they ask people about Ezekiel Elliott, go
read some of the coach from the Cowboy players. That's
our guy, man. Let's keep it real. We Ezekiel Elliott
as good as Melvin Gordon is. Ezekiel Elliott is better. No,
but everybody's not a star the Chargers have. That's fine.

(01:19:58):
My only point is and and I had a problem
with the Pittsburgh players who they're talking about it a
lot harder than than I agree with that. I just
I just don't that's a personal thing. Someone's trying to
take care of their family. I'll never get in that.
I'll never be able to say, Chris, when you hold
out from Fox Sports Radio, I'm gonna be here saying

(01:20:18):
I can't wait for our partner to get back. This
radio show is about the two of us. I hope
it gets worked out. And I don't care who they
bring in. I still want Chris Bouchard next to me.
That would be my comment, not ripping anybody else, not
talking up anybody else. The odd couple is gonna go
without whether Chris is here or not. I would never
say that and never mention anybody else, but this is

(01:20:41):
a little bit. I'm just saying sports. We both played
sports at some level, and whenever guy's injured, whenever guys
just out for whatever reason, you have to be like, look,
next man up. It's not that you don't want the
other guy back, but it's next man up. We have

(01:21:02):
to still believe we can win. And that's all. It's
all Rivers was saying. He didn't. He said, we love Melvin,
and I don't even know and you know this being
a reporter too, how he was even asked the question.
He may have been asked, look without Melvin, I mean,
do you think these other guys, you know, you guys
are gonna be able to run the football like you

(01:21:24):
have in the past with you know, So maybe he
was even asked it in a way that prompted him
to really prop up the backups. But I just have
no problem and look, you're not alone to Ron. Matthew
tweeted out, damn yeah, you know to that report, and
then Gordon replied wild right like like like he they're

(01:21:45):
taking your side. So I'm not saying you coming out
of the left field. I'm just saying I think all
of it's an overreaction. We just listened to the quote, well,
but but said nothing negative about Melvin. He boosted up
the guys that as far as he knows, we'll be
playing and that's where his defense, his offensive line, and
his running backs need to hear. You know what, we

(01:22:06):
are going to be just as good no matter who's here.
You could say that in private, you could say that
in the locker room, you could say. You could always
say that. All I'm saying is in that situation. And
I don't know what the question was, Chris saw I'm
at a disadvantage. I don't know what the question was,
but the question, but the answer could have been, you know,
I understand where Melvin is and what's going on the league.

(01:22:27):
For whatever reason, I'll SEEBA hurts running backs, and I
understand that. Do you know what I mean? If he said,
I understand, man, you know, I've been fortunate. I played
in this league a long time as a quarterback. Whatever.
Guys don't get to play fifteen years as a running back,
not anymore, and those days are over. So I do

(01:22:47):
get where he is. We would love to have him
back and we'll just move forward until he gets back.
Now I would I don't have any now if you
want to ask me something different about those other guys.
But to make like he that's a good you make
a good point what I'm saying. But our guests my guess,
and I'm guessing you agree with me. He probably wasn't

(01:23:08):
asked it that way. It sounds like he was asked
something specifically about these other guys kind of having to
carry the load with Gordon out, you know what I'm saying,
because the way he responded. But I and I'm gonna
throw this out as I possible. I think that's why
the other players around the legal reacted to he like
what It's just it's like that, right, you know what

(01:23:30):
I mean? Like, Wow, I'm gonna throw something else out though.
And this again, I don't know if this played a
factor in it or not, but it's possible. Philip Rivers
is playing on the last year of his deal and
he has said, look, I'm fine playing out the contract.
He's at a base salary of eleven million dollars. Yeah,

(01:23:51):
the only problem is Christians. But still I'm just saying
he is woefully underpaid who fully. Now, he's got the
bonuses and it might be I don't know, between sixteen
and twenty million or something like that, if you know,
all money told. But his base salary eleven million this year.

(01:24:13):
And so he may be a guy. Again, I haven't
talked to him about this. I don't even know him personally,
but he may be a guy that's like and something.
It's like a Mark Cooper said, different strokes with different folks.
I'm fine playing out my last year. I don't need
to get an extension. It's just different guys do different things.
But he may be one of those guys. Like, look,

(01:24:33):
I signed the contract. I know I'm underpaid eleven million dollars.
Jimmy Garoppolo's making almost three times as much as I'm making. Yeah,
but the only different playing it out. But the only
difference is he Jimmy Garoppolo's a young player with star potential.
He stills not better than Philip Rivers. But Philip Rivers
is an old man. Rob g it's this year, thirty

(01:24:56):
or seventeen, got plenty of time left, fifteen years or
sixteen years in the NFL, and he he hasn't shown
any drop off. I'm just telling you he's an old
guy steals lucky. He's lucky to have the eleven million
dollars to stop it. I'm sorry, take that back. He's
going to have that, yeah, because he Brooks said he's
the second best quarterback in the league and can go
that far. But he's top five. Okay, But my point is,

(01:25:18):
after all these years that he got to fulfill the
whole contract, when a lot of guys don't always get
all their money, he gets it. And if he has
another year like he had last year, then he'll get
a new deal. But if I'm the charges, I'm not resigning.
A thirty seven year old quarterback gonna resign. I'm talking
about before his contracts a year before his contracts up.
At be smart because he might get more money, and

(01:25:41):
he might he might fall off the cliff, but he'll
get a bigger contract next year. And if he falls
off the cliff, what would you do? You canna sign
him to a big year. Yeah, if he falls off
the cliff, he falls off the cliff. You know, that's
a whole other thing. But here's the other thing, Rob
And as I said with Ezekiel Elliott, I get it
with the running backs. You're right, the CBA for the
running backs, it's the worst. They get it worse than anybody,

(01:26:04):
and partially because their position is, I would argue, the
most physically demanding in the league. Every play they got
a block or they're getting hit, right, they're they're gotta
protect a quarterback, right they are? They get it. They
get licks, all right. So I get that, and I

(01:26:24):
will hope Gordon and Ezekiel Elliot get their money. But
I'm looking at it from both sides, and I look,
Ezekiel Elliott is one thing. He is a once in
a generation or you know, you might get two three
guys like that in a generation type player. Melvin Gordon isn't.
I'm sorry, and I do think Austin Eckler is this good.

(01:26:49):
I'm just gonna keep it, I think Melvin. If I'm
the Chargers, I'm better with Gordon. I want him back
at a certain number. But I am definitely not breaking
the bank for Melvin Gordon when I've got two, but
particularly one guy and Eckler, who I know can't fill
his shoes. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not as convinced as

(01:27:11):
you are. Eckler. Those guys, I mean that sounds nice, uh,
charge of the number. Pittsburgh said the same thing. Didn't
even make the play was great, they didn't even they
didn't even make the playoffs. You make Aaron Rodgers a pass,
Why don't you get the stealers a path. I'm just
telling you they didn't make the playoff. Aaron Rodgers didn't
make the playoffs either. You telling me there, telling me
if if Levy on Bell played all, ye, they wasn't.

(01:27:33):
I'm not buying James Connors better than you know they were.
You could talk to anybody, anybody in the NFL. Everybody
tell you to take Levy on Bell ten times out
of ten times better ten times annor was Connor did work?
They can make the playoffs. You keep me did work,
and stop it with the playoffs because Air Rodgers didn't

(01:27:56):
make the playoffs and you still raided to Crown. Okay,
can I give you this his then? But since twenty sixteen,
Melvin Gordon ranks second? Are you ready? I know the numbers? Head?
That's all you got? Yeah? What you mean is that
all I got? You want me to give you some
numbers too? Furry up and give me a little meaningless number.
I'm gonna give you the numbers. They're not meaningless. Second

(01:28:17):
in the NFL in touches one thousand and seventy eight,
third and scrimmage yards, and third in touchdowns. He should
be paid. He's making, as Mary Cooper said, peanuts for
an elephant. He's not getting his money. This is about
like he's not tent. He's not the middle of the road.
He's in the top three on all three of those.
How about this? How about three point five yards per

(01:28:39):
carry as a rookie? Three point nine he's three years ago.
Three point nine yards that carried two years ago. Last
year was the first time he ever went over four yards?
And shouldn't it be based on the last year? Is
he trending yards per carry? Is he trending upper down?
I gotta break the bank for the he Is he
trending upper down? Eckler? Now I give you this because

(01:29:01):
I'm fair Eckler if he Seckler did not run the
ball as much, so Chris if better, but why you
will run it a lot? But why he would average
five and a half yards of carry as a rookie
and five point two yards of carry last year, So
Chris average is more more yards per reception than Gordon.
So tell me, why why are you giving me touches

(01:29:24):
the second motion in the NFLF. He's no good? Why
are you giving him something? I'm saying he's no good.
You are good, You're going with I'm just saying, I
gotta god, running back is other than an Ezekiel elliott A,
Leavian bell A, Tie Gurley before he got hurt everybody else. Man,
I can find him somewhere. I can find him with
the seventh round pick. I can find him undrafted rookies.

(01:29:46):
I mean, look at the top rushers last year. That's
what you got. I can get him in the third round.
I hate to say it, I love running back. I
wish it was what it used to be, but it's not.
And these a lot of these dudes, even of Melvin Gordon,
are replaceable, and he's gonna find out the hard way.
I hate to say it, but that's the fact. Oh really, Okay,

(01:30:07):
So now you're a predictor of fact. You know, I'm
just saying's gonna happen the charges. You know what they're
gonna do. You gonna be like they're gonna be like
the dumb franchises always has been. They got a window,
open opportunity. They got any quarterback he got. Put it
at a quarterback, and here's your chance. And what you're
gonna do is play around over a couple of shekels
and then you'll see what happens. What were they without

(01:30:30):
Gordon last year? I don't care. You can't see. You
cared to the count four and four without Ei You
need four and you wanted numbers the four and over
with it, he's the second most touches in the league.
That's all you need to know. All right, Let's see
what the listeners think. Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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(01:31:34):
All right, we threw it out to you. Was Philip
Rivers really unsupportive of Melvin Gordon the other day? Rob?
Before we get to the callers. The question was apparently
that Rivers was asked, was with Melvin not being here,
those guys, meaning the backups, Eckler and Jackson are gonna

(01:31:56):
get more, you know, touches like you know. So he
was asked directly about them. So maybe that's why he,
you know, spoke more and so glorwily about those guys. Right,
we'll see from the what the listeners think. Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. Let's get to it all right,
Eric and DC, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up? Eric? Hell? Hey, what's up? Fells? How are

(01:32:17):
you siding? All right? What's up? Chris? I think you're
concentrating on the wrong time. You're concentrating on whether he
deserved it or not. That's not the issue. That's between
him and and the king by shote whether deserved it
or not, Rivers got his money. And when you're in
the union, he stayed out of study, out of the
contract business. I don't like them. He could have staid
to the fact that we'll be how do you mog

(01:32:38):
and you see him, I'm not specul in that main contract.
We're gonna do what we gotta do with the players
to here. And even at that, he had no business,
in my opinions, contract did What did he say about
the other guy's contract? What do he say about his guns?
He said essentially the same thing you just said. He said,
we got we gonna concentrate on the guys we got here.

(01:33:00):
When Melvin is here, will be fine. That's when he said,
he said, we love Melvin. Chris about it, I never
thought to heard you. I think you're cloudy by the
fact you think he deserved more money. I think that's
why you cloudy about the fact that you don't play
with what he said, because you think it's about he's

(01:33:21):
asking for more than he deserved. The fact definitely between
him and the team and that and the only reason
that Eric, I get your point is that because other
players responded to it. They heard what you heard, Chris,
they heard what I heard. One we all heard yeah.
One player responds, Yeah, I'm just saying, of course, it
doesn't mean that a lot of people, you know what

(01:33:42):
I mean. Everybody doesn't always respond, but at least somebody did.
All right, what about Jason and North Carolina. Jason, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio here you guys,
thanks for taking my call too quick, quick, guy, I
want to go back to your Aaron Rodgers argument real
quick and ask Rob the question because I think off points.
So Rob, if you if you could do a fantasy

(01:34:02):
draft and you got the first pick in the draft,
every player is available, do you pick Aaron Rodgers number one? Absolutely?
Without question. I wouldn't even man, I wouldn't even flinch.
My homes had one year and I've seen plenty of
one year quarterback wings. No, he won't because he won't. No,
so Jason, So so you wouldn't pick who who? I'm
just curious for. I think right now i'd probably pick

(01:34:24):
my homes right now. First awful one year and you
don't even know. Damn. It was ridiculous. I mean, it
was unbelievable, we saw that r G three was ridiculous,
and so was not like this kid, not like this kid.
They were all ridiculous their first Oh, go ahead, Jason.
I appreciate you answering that. I'm glad they're not my GM,
but but whatever, you know. Uh, And another thing is,

(01:34:46):
you know, I hate what these running backs are doing
with these holdouts. Now, I'm a police officer and barely
make enough money to support a family and they're complaining
about millions. So it's kind of aggravating. But the bottom
wine is the Cowboys need to Zekiel Elliott. The Chargers
don't need Melvin Gordon. They can do us. Yeah. But
the only problem, Jason, and no disrespect. Come on, man,
you can't. You can't take real life like you and

(01:35:06):
and guys to NFL life. I just it's all relative.
We know in a in a different world. I mean,
let's face it, school teachers all them should be making
police officers should be maybe more. I mean, it is
what it is. But the athletes are just getting essentially
rob right, fifty percent of what their sports generating, and
you just kind of if we weren't his into the sports,

(01:35:27):
they wouldn't make it much achieving networks weren't paying the money.
They wouldn't make it. So it's that they deserve it
from based off of which is generating. Right, let's generating,
all right? Ali? In Nashville, you're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports rating. What's up? Ali? But what's up? Guys?
All right? So the only two cars like the two points.

(01:35:50):
The only way I would pay running back is if
I had an out after two seasons, like for example,
what Tennessee did with Chris Johnson and DeMarco Murray. They
paid him a new contract, paid him, and after two
seasons they had it out. For if Derek Henry this
next season blows up and has a fifteen hundred yard year,

(01:36:10):
I honestly would let him walk. But that, but but that,
but hold on, hold on. This is the problem that
you just said it. You're saying that even when a
guy plays well, you don't want to pay him. So
how is that fair? Do you understand what you're saying
that if he blows up and does well, I don't
I wouldn't pay him. That's ridiculous. It's not fair to him.

(01:36:32):
You're asking him to do an important job, and then
you're penalizing them because Chris said it earlier. Those guys
have to work hard. They don't just run the football.
They have to block. They have a lot of other response.
They catch balls out of the backfield. Let me get
let me say, you can get a decent running back
undrafted or later later run in the rounds a lot

(01:36:55):
of cheaper. Look at James Conner, look at Philip fifty
like those are those are good running backs? They are
playing key roles on their teams. Like You're why would
I pay running back tumble and hours a year when
I can get an undrafted or find any Rob? I
think because I'm with you philosophically, Rob, I think the

(01:37:17):
battle is with the union and the league, you know,
the collective bargaining agreement, because that's where the running backs
are really getting host right. Well, because what people are
looking at, Chris are they're not looking at the first
couple of years when these guys are grinding it out
right and then they go out and bam, I have
to it's somewhat ball. You know how baseball's got you

(01:37:39):
locked up for for seven six years. The difference is
you're not gonna get beat up in baseball and be
you know, essentially done. You're really just entering your prime.
And when you get paid, you get paid. I mean
like there's a paid there's a payday for you. Yeah.
So it's it's tough for running backs, but if you're
running the team, I get where they're coming from. And

(01:38:00):
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(01:38:43):
Bob Nightingale, Bob, Welcome to the Eye Cup. What's up? Bob?
Let's all right? You are man and of course, up, Bob.
I wanted to say, that's the best in the business stuff.
So let's just we're gonna get it from the best
guy in the business. Yes, yes, Bob, we know the
trade deadlines wins, and the Mets have been active. They

(01:39:06):
just acquired you know, Marcus Stroman, the All Star pitcher,
but they're still talk that they're gonna get rid of
synder Guard. Now I love a rotation of Stroman and
synder Guard and the grim and well, I mean, what
are the Mets exactly trying to do? Well? I think
it's signed opportunity here, Like, you know, hey, we can

(01:39:26):
get Marcus Stroman, who's pitching lights out in the Al East.
You know he's doing that, what's you get in the
NORS League at a at a bargain price? And it
was just our fourth and sixth best prospects. It's a
pun system that's one of the worst in baseball. So
I think that's you know, what is schooling the marketing here.
But Willing says, hey, they want to do on the Synderguard,

(01:39:47):
teams have to cut you in. You can deal them now,
can do them this winner or next summer, or hang
on to him. Let do my Synderguard for whatever reason,
I think he's rubbed them the wrong way. Something's going
on me seeing him in the front office that that's
not going well. And I think they've been frustrated by
sender Guard. So we'll see if it's enough to move
them now or if they wait for the price and

(01:40:10):
gilm as winner. But Bob, this isn't the thing. I
mean the Mets. I know, there are only five or
six games out of the wild Card as we speak,
so it's not like the season is officially over anything.
But a lot of people thought that they were going
to be sellers because they made a lot of moves
in the off season with their new GM. Things really
haven't worked out. I noticed, like I said, they were

(01:40:31):
in the mix. But it's been a disappointing season, I
would say for the most part with the Mets. How
surprised are you that they wind up being buyers instead
of like trying to get rid of people. Yeah, I
was surprised. I mean I like it. I did aggress
from this, you know. Uh, you know, even though they
canoe and everyone das trade didn't work work out, at

(01:40:52):
least say at least they went for it. You know
another main trade Das again, and uh, you know, if
they get the right price for him. But I'd rather
have a gem like broader band wagon and trying to
be aggressive and make moves rather than all these guys
for their prospects and hide behind it. You're trying to
win a World Cherries, you know. I remember Chefsisco Giants

(01:41:14):
people were ripping brand sign portraying way the prospect. Well,
they've got three World Series in five years out of it.
You know, it's about winning, about parade, not being the
cover of baseball. Durgau, the Whos keeping with the Mets.
They send Jason Vargas to the Phillies. Do you think
Vargas is, you know, gonna help the Phillies kind of
get over that hump and get to the postseason. I

(01:41:36):
think it was all I'm not sure they'll give him
the postseason, but yeah, I think he's still got enough left.
And that rotation is pretty beat up. I mean J. J.
Radan has got bone chips his elbow. You know, he
could go any day. Uh, just you know, that's been disappointing.
By the most disappointing part of the Phillis is that
rotation and you're gonna you know, they weren't going to
keep him next year as well for just eight million dollars.

(01:41:58):
So yeah, I though it's a nice movements. See a
couple of Fox Sports Radio I guests Bob Nightingale, of
course USA Today, MLB columnists, and of course MLB Network
insider Bob. Two teams that look like there's a chance
that they can make it to the World Series. Both
need pitching help. I think the Yankees need a starter.

(01:42:19):
I think there's slim pickings out there. But and the
Dodgers need some bullpen help. Ay, do you see those
two teams maybe getting there to the World Series? And
b do you think they're going to get what they
need come Wednesday? Well, I think the Yankees million of
just giving up on the starter and say no, us,
let's just go to the bullpen route. You have to
do bullpen up a million or some crazy stuff in

(01:42:41):
the postseason. Let's try that because at least you get
off days, you know, every every third day. So, uh,
you know, slim pickings for starters. So, but they got
to get some pitching help. If they don't, just give
me a short and swee. In October, they got no
chance to get pass into Mike Houston and the Dodgers,
I think the best team they've had them over thirty years,

(01:43:03):
just so deep and powerful. But yeah, you're right, Rob,
they need some helping up bullpen. Kenny Jansen's had his
sick ups this year. So if they can get their
hands on Amaron Diaz or Bass Chests from Pittsburgh, just
somebody that can pets the eighth and ninthen and you know,
they got a great chance and win at all and
Bob real quick. The Giants looked like they were going

(01:43:24):
to be sellers and then they got a hot streak
and they were in the mix with that organization in
all the championships that they've won, they look like they
want to give their fan base and their team a
chance to go for it. Yeah, two loyal fan base.
We spokes is last year as manager up there. Yeah,
I was there for the CUB Series and the Giants

(01:43:46):
just last week and they haven't had a buzz like
that in the stadium in a couple of years. TV
ratings were down thirty five percent the person half a
tennis and way down only ten dollars in a game.
All of a sudden, people are excited so they can
take that a lant from them. And they had the
money at the gate too, so they made straight the
reliever because they have so many of them, just to

(01:44:07):
try to build a little bit for the future. But
I'd be shocking the tray bub Gurner, Bob. Of the
teams in playoff contention, who do you think most needs
to make a move and what do they need to
get well? I think the Yankees hops absolutely have to do,
I guess and pitching help. And you know, let we
talk about the Dodgers. They can't stay pad. They can't

(01:44:27):
take a chance of not win a World Series when
that windows is wide open for the taking. I think
Houston Astros they've got to get another starter. Yeah, they
got Rolander and Garrett Cole get away in Mileague, but
they didn't our peace there. And the clubs are always aggressive.
You know, they got to do something to kind of
break away from the back in the l Central. But

(01:44:48):
in the Nationals, you know what, if anyone's going to
upset the Dodgers, the Nationals maybe the only team in
the National League when you've got Scherzer and Strasbourg and
Patrick Horbyn going one, two three. If they can just
get a you know, a bullpen piece or two, they
can be real dangerous. But I'm glad you brought that
up because I don't think the Dodgers as good as

(01:45:09):
they are, and I don't think they're gonna make the
World Series. I think it's so hard to make it
three years in a row. I don't like the bullpen.
They got a great line up, they hit, they got
starting pitching. That's just am I crazy to think that
they're not gonna make it again. We'll be an upset
if they don't. I mean I didn't. I mean they
have a heavy favorites. Uh, they're bullion dynasties. It's like

(01:45:33):
you know, on the Bravest back in the day, of course,
the Braves, you know what do with five pennats? But
just the one World Series? Right? And uh, but you're right,
robb Ian, the Dodgers have to get in our bullpen piece.
You can't just count these young guys in triple as
like D's in May and those guys in Goslin pitching
the bullpen in October expecting the pitch lights out. They
got to get a veteran, you know, a veteran down there.

(01:45:54):
But The only problem with the Dodgers. Last thing for me, Bob,
is that we saw a couple of years ago when
they had a chance to get Verlander and they just
wouldn't spend the money to take the two extra years.
You know that he came with. I think they would
have won the World Series had they done that. Are
they still on that watching purse purse strings and not
willing to go get somebody who's maybe making a little

(01:46:16):
coin but could put them over the top. Well, I
think they'll take on the money now. It's just a
prospect that they want. But you're about it, right, Robin.
But they had got Verlander and let the Harvards go
to use them somewhere else. World Series Champions, no doubt
about it. There's so many teams, and you knows did
so many teams blew it on Verlander? You know, when

(01:46:36):
people forget it, this guy should carry waivers in August.
Anybody could have had them right. And when the trailers,
when the trailers made the Tigers even part of the
several people, which is just crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was
a big blunder by a whole lot of teams, Bob.
If the Dodgers don't win it this year, and they
look clearly like the best team in baseball. But we

(01:46:57):
know how you know, how baseball works in the playoffs.
What do you think would be the ramifications? I mean,
as Roberts, would he be in trouble if they don't
win it this year? No, you say you'll you sign
that extension and in the front office and you know,
cleverating with Dave Roberts every day on stuff. So I
don't think there'll any you know, repercussions. They really don't, uh,

(01:47:19):
you know, they're so deep and talented everything else. I
can't see them blaming one person if they if they
falls short. It's just one of those things. But I'd
be shocked if anybody took the ball. All right, hey, Bob,
thank you so much. And I can't wait for Wednesday.
I think is gonna be a lot of action. Yeah,
hopefully right now, it's when the dolls cred remember hopefully something.

(01:47:44):
All right, Bob, great stuff, man. As always, we appreciate
the time. All right, says good says yea. Yeah, it's
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(01:48:04):
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in honor of National Chicken Wing Day. Tweet that our

(01:48:27):
bowless chicken wings really chicken wings and let Rob you
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and getting the zone auto Zone. So, guys, in honor
of National Chicken Wing Day, the Odd Couple, you guys
have both posted it like twenty five hundred votes so far,
Yes has forty two percent and No fifty eight percent.
And do Bonleus wings count as chicken wings? The majority
going towards no. No, They're like nuggets or chicken strips.

(01:49:13):
They don't have any bones. You need the bones, you
need the structure, you need that port to count as
a wing. I disagree what in fact, most I actually
have the bones. I do like chicken wings with bones
in them, of course, but I think I like some
good chicken strips even better. But you just said it, Chris.

(01:49:33):
You call them stripped. You don't call them wings. No,
not if you can't fly with the bondless chicken wings.
It's like texting and dmon. You know what I mean?
It's not right. Is there a difference to No, there's
no difference. That's what I'm saying. Where is a different thing?
What means you don't have his number? Yes, it's the
same thing, and I don't want dudes? I how about that?

(01:49:56):
How about those out dogs? Is he reaching out to
me on the deal? In my DM? Wow? All right?
But anyway? Uh No, I think I think I think
the wings, Uh, they are wings. It's just I get
if I get a boneless chicken breast, is it still
a chicken breast? Yeah, it's still a chicken breast even

(01:50:20):
though they took the bones out. No, but the bones
don't have the structure. But it's still a chicken breast,
but you need the bones. Yes, I'm not a chicken
breast with a boneless chicken breasts not a wing because
you know what, it's breast. It's not a it's a strip,
it's a it's a nugget. It's not a wing, Chris,
why are they calling it boneless wings? They're not wings.

(01:50:43):
They're made from all the different parts of the chicken.
They're not a wing. If they can use breast meat,
a lot of time they use dark meat legs and
thighs to make nuggets and stripped. You know that strips
are usually what white meat, and then nuggets are usually
dark meat. I'm sorry, okay, So then if if nuggets

(01:51:05):
are dark meat and strips are white meat, didn't that
means strips aren't nuggets. That means they're wings white meat. No,
but they come if they're making the nuggets from the
from the breast, you know that that's where it comes.
Rob Ge, what do you think? Ask me again, Chris,
our our chicken wing? Bowless wings? Real wings? No way, No,

(01:51:30):
how sir, thank you. Rob. It's not it's not it's not.
And as a matter of fact, I feel like because
didn't you order bowless wings. No, he never orders bones.
At a matter of fact, because Chris Brussard wants me
to pay off a chicken wing bet with chicken tenders.
I feel like that void to the bet and it's

(01:51:50):
entirely I don't pay him anymore. Oh no way, no,
how it was. I thought it was a wing bet.
It wasn't a strip bet. I mean, I'll take the wings,
but I prefer extra crispy lemon pepper strips and hey,
rob ge stripped cross morning wings, don't they they do.
I was kind of disappointed and Chris bus sorry when

(01:52:12):
I said out with him twenty wings and then he
sends to me a text, I'll take an order of
eighteen crispy chicken tenders with fries and a drink. He
was very specific with what he wanted. I was like,
you get what you get, dude, Relax, And I still
owe him that anyway. So, yes, you do. What about usc, Chris?
Is it a total shutout of me on this one? Absolutely? No. Yeah,

(01:52:35):
you can't have anarchy rain here in the chicken world.
They have to have as Robert say, they got to
the structure. That's like, it's a definition. It is a
wing if we just suddenly throw together all this mystery
me together, Like what are rules anymore? What? Just what?
What is shape? So? What about the non flats, the
little drumsticks are those wings? Just so? Anything with a

(01:52:58):
bone is a wing? Just to smop it, stop it odd.
Couple of Fox Sports Radio went back peace,

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