Jon Gruden: The Captain of a Sinking Ship

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It's Jonas Knox here with Jason McIntyre in for Rob
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Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox, Jason McIntyre in for Rob
and Chris here on FSR. And I feel like I
can't do the ah yeah that Chris Brusar does because
neither one of them is here. And I feel like
we'd be kind of mowing somebody else's lawn, you know
what I mean. I just I don't know. I don't
know how appropriate that would be if we use their catchphrase.

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It's like a professional wrestler stealing another wrestler's finishing move.
I just don't know. Parker. Yeah, he's not here, so
I don't know whether or not we should. We should
still do some of the same some of the same bits.
Do you have a Chris Bruce art impression? Because I've
got a good Rob Parker. Let's hear the Rob park Oh,
come on, Jasis Wipe is staying. Oh, he's the will Hote,
the worst host of all time? Did you just come

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up with that on the fly? Yeah? I think my
acronyms have gotten a lot better working with Rob Parker. Yeah, job,
I thought you were going to go after Steph Curry
or Tom Brady. Yeah, you know, Rob park tends to
go after he does superstars who you don't need to
go after Rob. But listen, that's probably listening while everybody
else is zigging. He's aggs. That's just the way he does.

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I taught him that, you know I did. That's that's
the move now, Jason McIntyre, I know you happen to
see Hard Knocks last night. Correct incorrect? I did not,
you didn't. I'm horrible. I am. I'm such a bad person.
I was on vacation last week. I know you guys
follow me on Instagram, so I was doing all the vacation.
I g garbage and I get back and I'm still

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a little in vacation mode. But I'm reading up on
the NFL and I played basketball yesterday and I missed it.
So because you gave it out, where can people follow
along your vaca? Oh? Just the normal, you know, Jason R. McIntyre. Sure,
you know I'm not a huge deal on Instagram. I
got late to the game, you know. Yeah. Uh, because
I had young kids, I'm like, I don't want to
put their faces on instag It makes sense. Um, So

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I've only been doing it for a couple of years,
but it's a lot of fun. I leave the personal
stuff off Twitter. You know, Twitter is a cesspot Oh,
It's discussed and and and just the rotten human beings
out there. So I don't need them seeing what I'm
doing in my free time. Yeah, I'm not Clay Travis
out here. Professing to be a millionaire with multiple houses
like my bud, my buddy, Clay Travis. Um, but yeah, no,

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I do a little vacation stuff. I do a lot
of sports stuff on there, playing basketball, I played some tennis, soccer,
trying to stay active. I do some stuff from here.
Um but yeah, so like a bad sports host. I
played basketball yesterday. I had a great run and I
missed hard Knocks. Now I do have it on the DVR.
I'll check it out, probably this evening after I watched

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nine two one oh. Oh, okay, Well that's listen. I
don't want to take us off. Why are you last? Look?
Why are we getting last? Nine O two one on?
One of the greatest shows in the history of television?
But that, I mean tonight is the debut of the
new rebate if you wait to Jonas time, Jonas, do

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you really think that the original nine or two on
oh was terrible? Awful? Oh, Perry Rip Brandon Walsh not
my thing. Yeah, I was never into it. Listen. I'm
more of a I'm more of a down to earth
I like real, real TV. Okay, I'm more like Jersey Shore.
I want real TV, real TV with real people and

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real emotions you guys can't see at home, but he
has the air quotes up for real because everything on
Jersey Shore is scripted, total trash. Uh. Now, I don't
know how much of Hard Knocks is scripted, but I
will say this, Um, I'm not a big John Gruden guy.
He's got a lot of sycophants in the media, people
who love him, and he could do no wrong and

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he shs though he doesn't. Yeah, I feel like he's
in he's in a spot to where no matter what
he does, it's gonna get some criticism. Anything that he
does is gonna get criticism based on who he is.
He's boisterous, there's a lot of noise around him, and
I feel like people were waiting to pounce on him
last year and they got They got a lot of grief.

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They weren't a good football terrible and they were not
good at all. But I feel like people am not
really wanting to give him any slack or give him credit,
even for the Super Bowl that he wont in Tampa Bay.
The easy go to as well, that was Tony Dungee players. Yeah,
and what did he do after the Super Bowls? Okay,
but why he melted down. He was awful. Why didn't
Why didn't Tony Dungee want to Super Bowl with those guys?

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It's the same That's fair. That's fair. It's the same
same thing people did with Chip Kelly because chip Kelly
went out of a different way. And when chip Kelly
got to Philadelphia, he went ten and six and the
Eagles won the division. That with Nick Foles, Yeah, with
Nick Foles the twenty seven two year and everyone said, yeah,
but he did that with Andy Reids players. Oh you
mean Andy Reids players or four and twelve the year before?

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Get out of here. Man, Like people pick and shoes
how they want to approach certain coaches and certain players.
And I feel like Gruden's one of those guys who's
going to get a lot of love. To your point,
a lot of people are gonna ball wash him and
then there's gonna be a lot of hate thrown at. Right.
I don't remember, But did Dungee's team the year before
Gruden took over? They were pretty good? Right? I think
they were. They were good for a while. It was

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just that they couldn't get over the hump. And sometimes
you need that. Similar to Mark Jackson with the Warriors, right, yeah,
very good coach. And then Kirk comes in, makes one
little change with the Draymond being very fortuitous, and they
go on to a dynasty. But I personally think Gruden's
gonna be a massive failure with the Raiders. I think
the only reason he's there is because the move to
Vegas coming up. Oh well, I think we can agree

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they need a splashy name to enter Las Vegas, and
here's Gruden. But I'm telling you, and we'll get to
Antonio Brown soon. This latest stuff from Antonio Brown is
a total clown shot. I mean, you pay him all
this money and now we don't know if he's gonna
be around for week one. Let me tell you something.
Some guy walking around with a ham sandwich on his
feet is a gift from the radio gods to us

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in early August. I can't get enough of it. And
I do want to remind folks the John Gruden fanboys
out there. You know, but both of you. After they
won the Super Bowl, John Gruden turned off like everybody
in Tampa. Him and Keishaw Johnson went at it. Him
and Joey Galloway. Chris Simms, I mean Chris Sims was
like Gruden tried to run me out of town at
the lowest point in my career after like a near

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career ending injury. Um. John Gruden is a bit of
a psychopath. Yeah, I don't know him personally. Uh, psychopath
a little bit, A little bit personally. I mean, listen,
at some point, Jonas, you know, like we all have
foundational values in life. Honesty, Yes, right, I want to
be honest with people. Um. And I try not to
get angry anymore. I'm not as young as I used

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to be. When I was in my twenties, I would
get angry quick you know, when I'm a young guy,
very it didn't really matter. Life was totally different. I
would get angry quickly. Why am I not moving ahead
of my career faster that? Why are you not driving fast?
It is the violent and I will say I mean,
I will say this. I've never been in a fight
in my life, but I get I used to get angry.

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I don't get angry anymore. I mean maybe it's having
the kids, but I've toned down my anger. And John
Gruden is what fifty, and he's still seething an anger
twenty four to seven. He feels though the TV stuff
did a weird thing to him because he feels it.
And you watch last night and we have a little
bit of John Gruden last night on Hard Knocks. He
feels like, yes, there's still that bite, that that P

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and V if you want to call it, but that
he has sort of taken more of a polished approach.
Here was Gruden last night on HBO. Everybody right now
has dreams, don't they, guys? I set it to the rookies,
all right, everybody in the NFL. I have a dream
of making it in the NFL. I got a dream
of winning a Super Bowl. I gotta dream of being
in a Pro Bowl. I'm really not into dreams anymore. Okay,

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I'm in nightmares. You guys with me on night. You
gotta end somebody's dream. You gotta take their job, you
gotta take their heart, are you guys? You guys clear
about this NFL Now, we're not trying to go to
the Peach Bowl. We're not trying to go to the
Gator Bowl or the Blue Bonnet Bowl. We're trying to
go to the Super Bowl. Okay, and to do that
you got to really try to end somebody's dreams. Are

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you clear on that, Ferrell? Okay, I mean that now,
so get into that. You know what got round of
applause for John Gruden? Thank oh, I'm not rod of applause?
Are you so? You like that? There he is, Ladies
and gentlemen. How long did it take him? Jonas? How
long did it take him to write that ape? Because
it's gonna be perfectly crafted for Hard Knocks and it'll
go viral. Listen, radio hosts will clap. Listen. Some people

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like nine O two one oh. Some people like hard knocks.
I'm more of a hard knocks guy. And it's got
nothing to do with my last name. All right, not
a play on words here, But John Gruden delivered the
speech of the season so far, and that's because the
season is one game. Man on Authentic? Was that though
it did feel so fake? I mean it's so it's like, dude,
get out of here with this garbage. Of course, you know,

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I mean you think Bill Belichick's making dumb ass speeches
like that for the Patriots, and I know that's the
greatest coach in NFL history, but um, I just don't
want to hear that nonsense. Well, I'm not running through
a wall for you, bro. Yeah, And here's the thing,
if you watch the other parts of the show, you'll
see that guys, a lot of them didn't really take
him all that serious. I don't know that players look

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at him as this. You know, that puts the fear
of God inside guys to where they've got to act
a certain way. Because he even had you know, one
of the one of the young players, the safety Abrams,
who was talking back to him a little bit when
he was trying to tell him, Hey, you know, uh,
we need you to lay off on the hitting and
you know, we want to keep our guys up. Don't
don't you know, crash into some of our own players

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and all that. And he was getting a little bit
of pushback there. So I have no idea how this
is going to play out. But to your point, and
you said it earlier, he was brought there because of Vegas.
I mean he's brought and because of Vegas and because
of the deal. John Gruden's gonna get a little bit
of there. It's going to buy him sometime. Mike McCoy
got an extra year with the Chargers because the Chargers
were in the middle of a move and they didn't

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want to just all of a sudden fire a coach
and figure it out. Jeff Fisher got an extra year
at the RAMS because it was after the move that
they finally decided, Okay, you know, let's let's make sure
we got everything together here and then if we want
to think long term, we think long term. I think
they're totally happy with Gruden. I think if if Gruden,
you know, is just slightly above five hundred and doesn't
deliver a Super Bowl, I think they're good with it.

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He's going to get him to Vegas. He's a Raider,
He's all about the past and the history of the Raiders,
and I think Davis is going to be all right
with that as well said very well said, I think
grudin Wal'll stick around. Obviously they're paying him ten million years,
but ultimately, like if he's not winning, and I don't
think there's a path to victory for them this year.
I know you're big on gambling, right you do the

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Gambling Show with RJ. I host a gambling podcast for
FS one called Coming Up Winners. And I'll tell you
this right now, what's the over underrang wins for the Raiders?
The six and a half six six and a half. Yeah,
there's no way I'm taking the over. Really. First of all,
the Chiefs and the Chargers in that division are very good.
I think the Broncos will be better than the Raiders.

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I don't see a path to six wins. I would
definitely pound the under. And I'm telling you this Antonio
Brown thing. If this coach continues to go sideways and
he's not there, or there's an extended absence, where's that offense?
Is it? You're gonna lean on Josh Jacobs, the rookie
running back who I love. I wanted the Jets to
get him, but I know that offensive line is a
bit of a mess. It's but all It's all about

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what do you consider a success. If you think John
Gruden winning a Super Bowl is the only the only
qualifier that would be considered a success in Oakland for
the Raiders slash Las Vegas, then I think that the
expectations are a bit much. I think him getting the
organization back to a place to where they're respected and
talked about more importantly than anything else. Buzz. Yeah, you

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create the buzz, much like you can say whatever you
want about the Dallas Cowboys. They've won three playoff games
in thirty years and all that stuff. But when Forbes
comes out with their with their most the richest organizations
out there, worth the most, the Dallas Cowboys are always
number one, and so Jerry Jones. Although he wants that
Super Bowl, he loves the idea of being able to
be the most valuable franchise in sports, and that comes

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with not a lot of wins, not a lot of
playoff wins, and zero Super bowls in a long time.
So I think if your level, if you measure success
by hey, are we getting talked about? Is there buzz
back in the organization? I think Gruden's the guy to
bring it. I'm trying to get the standings. The internet's
down here, so I'm looking at twenty eighteen. How many
wins did the Raiders have last? What they were the
four and twelve? Four and twelve? So about that? Okay,
So let's say they go five and eleven this year? Yeah,

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baby steps. At what point does buzz versus massive futility
and top five picks um At what point does that
outweigh the buzz that you're getting on John Well, he's
gonna They're gonna buy him some time because if he
goes to Vegas, they're gonna say, listen, brand new city,
just got here. Give it a couple of years and
next thing you know, we're looking at five six, seven

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wins and we're like five years into to the John
Gruden experience. And all it takes is one successful season.
You can stick around for a while. Look at Jeff Fisher.
Jeff Fisher stick around for one successful season when he
got to a Super Bowl. Yes, where's Jeff Fisher right now?
I just saw a car wash over here on the
breable work there. Yeah, really, that's amazing. This guy, Jeff Fisher,

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he's never working again in the NFL. Like it's done.
But that bad. I mean Jared Goff. Remember the first
six or seven start for Jared Goff was like whoa,
what a bust? And now Jared Goff is like about
to get paid big time. He's dating an Instagram model
like he's leading the rams of the Super Bowl. Jeff
Fisher can't really coach. He's just not built for right now.

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I don't know if Jon Gruden is Jared Goff was.
It didn't even dress up. It didn't even dress for
the first game of his NFL career. Think about that
number one pick overall, and he didn't even suit up.
I did Jeff Fisher start that year case Keenum, Oh yeah,
you actually have people to listen to the show. So
there's that, all right. He's Jason McIntyre. I am Jonas

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Knox in for Rob Parker and Chris Brussar. This is
the odd couple here on Fox Sports Radio. Now. Jason
and I are very very much against calls, okay, but
we know Rob and Chris love to hear from you guys.
And it's not that we think that we're better than you,
star we are. We are better. We're definitely better than them,
and we're fearful that you guys are going to get
on the air and just vomit all over yourselves. But

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if you would like to prove us wrong, we're gonna
give one or two people shot eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six six
three six nine. This is a vomit free zone on
the interesting, right, that's the number one something, Yes, and
a compliment goes a long way. I just want to
let you know that as well too, so that'd be
so we will take your calls at some point if
they're not terrible. Up next, though, maybe the story of

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That'll be coming up here just a few minutes from
now here on Fox Sports Radio Now. M Jason McIntyre
said before we went to break that you are indeed
superior to anybody that calls into Fox Sports Time. I
wouldn't say superior, I'd say vastly superior. Okay, very good.

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And so with that being said, we do have some
people that want to chime in. Now. We said we're
going to get to two calls. If both of them
are bad, we're shutting down the phones. In fact, we've
got the guy to shut down the entire network. And
his name is Rob Garre. He did it once before
in the Place to be. Thus the name wrong Button
Bob was born here in Fox. Wrong Button Bob shut
down the whole network. You know, he used to be

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like a left tackle, and now he's slimmed down. He's
at tight ends. Well, you know he's at you know,
it's all the all the money, all the money, the
perks that come with the gig. Yeah, the perks. Got
a new car. You know, it's guys living very very fast.
Both my cars were over ten years old and paid
off by the way, Day six, Tacoma nine. Where it goes, Yeah,

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car paid baby oil, loyal guy. All right, So let's
go to Let's go to Mike, who is in New
York listening here on Fox Sports Trading. Mike, what's happening?
No pressure, Mike, If you're terrible, We're shutting down all
the phones. Hey, what's up, guys? Super cool show? Uh,
I gotta tell you you're wrong about Chucky and I'll
just give you some some facts. Been watching guys for

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a long time. First off, Chuckey comes in in ninety nine,
takes over Joe Bugle disaster ninety eight sorry four and
twelve teen a year before, beats the Chiefs in Arrowhead
on the last day of the season we's had done
in five years. Brings in rich Gannon, of all people,

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and even I said, are you not You're getting rid
of Jeff George, you got the best art of men. Fella,
you bringing in Jurity even rich Gannon and him and
help Davis built a monster and they turned that thing around.
He probably should have won two super Bowls. I mean,
the Devil should have won two super Bowls. And last
year's team, I mean I was out there, man, that
was a dumpster fire. That was a practice squad. I
think I could have played for him. I want him

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to come out of stay in the play for him
and Chuck. He's bringing it back, man, And you can
feel it in there, you guys can feel it. I
think you're just hate a little bit. I know you
want to take Mike, that's not bad. But Mike, that's
not bad. Yeah, not bad, literary bad. Hey, Mike, thanks
for the call. Listen, Mike, twenty years ago, like you
were just sighting with John Druden. I could go into

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a bar and walk out and maybe six numbers of girls.
Right now, I go into a bar, I could. I
don't know how to talk to women. I've been married,
I got kids. I'd been like showing the pictures of
my kids. I don't know what I'm doing right now.
John Druden does not know what he's doing. Next call
All right, there is you take that. I'll let you
slice up the sex and I'll look. I'll just say this, Um,
I would disagree slightly with Jason McIntyre, but we will

(18:55):
wait to see what girls are about. Marty Marty in
Kentucky has to say here on Fox Sports. Marty, what's
going on? Man, Marty in Kentucky, going on, Marty in Kentucky.
Let's go Marty in Kentucky. Yeah, I Army here he is. Hey,
I'm gonna get to the point quick. John Gruden is

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the biggest waste of money the NFL's ever seen. Oakland
should have never spent that money on him. He won
a championship with Tony Dungee's defense, and he's made money
with his mob ever since. I promise not to vomit
on the radio because FSR, it's a bag full of
vomit every weekend on the Jason Look Looking Day. Hey,

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that was good Marty all the way from Kentucky. He's
got those dolls and legs. If you're a street fighter fan,
because he just kicked you square in the nuts. On
national radio, Jason Wow drilled me with like was it
a fore arm off? That was amazing? Really and he
ripped into John Cruden. Here's what I would say, you
ever you collecting growing up? Was there anything that you card? Guy? Okay,

(20:03):
if somebody in like an avid baseball card Collop had
a pretty solid If you found out that there was
something and there was only thirty two made on the planet,
that would be a hot commodity, right, you'd want to
get your hands junior upper deck rookie card. If you
could get your hands on that, you would feel special,
right pretty much? Yeah, thirty two men walk in the
face of the Earth. Have been a head coach that's

(20:24):
won a Super Bowl. John Gruden's one of them. Have
a nice night. Everybody good. All right, here we go,
ladies and gentlemen. We need more on that. I'm trying
to think of a bad coach who's won a Super Bowl.
Thirty two men in the history of planet Earth have
won a Super Bowl's head coach John Gruden's one of them.
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What the air? What DF is on his feet? So
the story is cryotherapy. He didn't write wear the proper

(21:07):
foot protecting and he ended up getting frostbite on his feet.
Have you done cryotherapy? No, it's awesome, I've heard crazy,
I've heard it's creat it's effective. But he now, apparently
this happened in France. That's what I'm seeing from a
reporter that I know. He was in France. Maybe didn't
speak parlevous Francai mister Brown. Now he's like, oh whatever. Um.

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When you go into cryotherapy, you have to wear socks, yes,
not your own. They usually provide them for you. Ad mits, right,
and ad mits, And there are usually crocs that you wear. Now,
I'm not a croc guy. I don't own a pair
of crocs. But you put the socks and the crocs
together and you're gonna be fine. Also, they limit you
to either two or three minutes in the cryo therapy.
There's no way that should be happening. Is this total

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bs from Antonio Brown to get out of preseason? Let
me ask you that I don't know, and I don't
think that he would need to go that route to
get out of Priests season. I don't think anybody really
cares about preseason anymore, Antonio, Yeah, I don't. I think
if he wanted out a preseason, they'd be okay with it.
I think that would be something that the Raiders would
be fine with everything. Look, you can't you can't, no

(22:15):
pun intended. You can't fake the funk on the bottom
of his feet. I mean it is terrible. Like we
we talked about, you know, vomit on the air, Like
he looks like he's stepped in like bags of crap.
Oh it's terrible. Oh I have it's absolutely disgusting. Yeah,
you can. You can't fake that. That's that's a legitimate
injury and it's concerned and you can even watch on

(22:35):
hard knocks. He couldn't cut, he couldn't do certain things.
They kept saying, well, you know he wants to go
so fast all the time. Well, yeah, that he's not.
Like he's a big guy. He needs his speed, his
cutting ability, his agility. All that stuff plays into who
he is as a wide receiver, which is what makes
him an amazing wide receiver. The fact that the bottom
of his feet are melting is a problem. I do
want to remind weird. So wide receivers historically have been divas, right, Yes,

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John Gruden dealt with one. Keishawn Johnson and Tampa didn't
go out just to remind folks. So they win a
Super Bowl. Keishaw was arguably the best player on that team.
I forget who the quarterback was, John Brad Johnson. Yeah,
and Keshawn was like the star offensively of that team.
Warren Sap was a stunt on defense. The next year,
Gruden and Keishn Boom by midseason hated each other, and

(23:21):
Gruden refused to cut him because Keshawn was still at
the end of his prime, like thirty one years old,
so he just deactivated Keishan, kept him on the road.
He would rather pay Keyshawan than let him go somewhere else.
And I'm telling you, like that, DIVA wide receiver, DIVA coach.
I'm ready. I'm all here for the implosion. I can't wait.
Hey now, I want it to work because I like

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the Raiders as an organization. I think it's fun. I
think I think it's great that they're going to Vegas.
I love everything about the Raiders, that the mystique, the
bad boys of the NFL. People forget man. Al Davis
was Jerry Jones well before Jerry Jones, except he was
Mary Jones X rated. He was not fearful to take
on the league multiple times over. There were multiple issues

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with the league suing him, moving a team, moving him back.
Al Davis ran that the way that he wanted to
run it. And I want to see it work because
I think it's a fantastic setup in Vegas and they're
the perfect franchise and team to be there Jonas al
Davis died eight years ago. I don't understand the love
for the Raiders. Is this like a childhood No, No,
it's the historical mark Davis is trying to bring back

(24:27):
that luster, that lore of the Raiders, the Great Raiders,
the autumn wind, all that stuff. With the dumb and
dumber haircut. Look did you see who was in the
press box with him a year ago? I mean I
did not look. The guy's got doll hair and he
had an eleven out of eight in the press box
sitting right next to him. That's all I'm saying. Well,
I mean that's eight when you're a multi is a
billionaire or just a multip I don't think he's a billionaire.

(24:49):
He's the poor. He's the poorest owner in the NFL.
Which I remember the stories last year about the Raiders
going broke. Oh yeah, yeah that was yeah. So look
what we'll see. But if it isn't implosion, Hey, I'm
here for baby, it's great for us. Here on sports radio.
All right, he's Jason McIntyre. I'm Jonas Knox. This is
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(25:10):
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never been told in regards to HBO's Hard Knox that's
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(25:30):
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All right, here we go, Jason McIntyre Jonas Knox in
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We'll get to that here twelve minutes from now on

(25:52):
Fox Sports Radio. Right now, though he is the director
of Hard Knox, he is Tim Rump joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Tim, thanks so much for the time.
Appreciate it absolutely, Thank you for having me, and it's
great to have you. Especially seeing the first episode of
Hard Knocks with the Oakland Raiders last night and it debuted,
it feels like this is going to be a home

(26:13):
run with all the characters and everybody on that team,
the personalities and whatnot. Was the excitement the same for you?
Is it different than in year's past going into this
season knowing what you're capable of? Yeah, I mean absolutely,
there was definitely a lot of excitement when we decided
to choose the Raiders, and that was part of the reason.
I mean, from the top down, you've got John Gruden,
you know it was going to be a home run.

(26:34):
It has been one of NFL Film's best wires for years.
And then of course the personalities that they have between
Derek Carr and Antonio Brown and throughout the roster, and
obviously with all the first round pick, so it really
was a no brainer. Now, how much of these when
we're watching Hard Knocks and we obviously see the episode
play out and we see, look, you can only put
on an hour each and how many episodes are there?

(26:56):
Six if I'm not mistaken, five five episodes? Okay, so
we're really only getting five hours of content. But I
know you guys are there for quite some time. How
much do we not get to see that we would
be surprised by. It's pretty unbelievable. Actually, So for every
one hour that actually makes the air on Tuesday, night,

(27:17):
there is about four hundred hours or some footage that
does its Yeah, it's you know that gets put away
in the NFLF el Bault and sits in there for years.
Tim Ay, it's Jason McIntyre. I got a question when
you look back at last year's Hugh Jackson, the big
blow up that he permitted to go on air, A

(27:37):
lot was written about that before the Raiders took air.
Did Oakland come to you and say, hey, some of
that stuff from last year, we want to nip that
in the buds, so this stuff is off limits. Did they?
Did Oakland and John Gruden lay down the law on
what you can and can't air? I think they just
kind of wanted to get a grasp and then understanding
of what it takes and what it goes into the

(27:58):
show and the process of how stuff makes air where
we are, and that's kind of that's not different from
any other team. I don't think whenever we pick a
team going into that year, they only known what to expect.
You know, how many cameras we have, how many robotic cameras,
all that stuff. So it's really just about establishing that relationship,

(28:19):
getting to know each other and building its run. He
is Tim Brump, the director of Hard Knocks with us
here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas Knocks Jason McIntyre here
on FSR in for the Odd Couple. Jason McIntyre said,
John Gruden's opening speech talking about nightmares was scripted. How
many takes was that that? Please tell me that was
one take? Because I was defending grudon. That was one

(28:40):
of those moments. I think it was probably the first
or second day of rookie camps, So it's really early
on when we're out here. I'm kind of sitting around
and you know, we're filming some things around the building,
and I'm like, okay, waiting for something to happen, and
then that moment happens, and I'm like, okay, this is
the first thing that really looks like Hard Knocks. And
of course, you know, we put out there as a
teaser and people loved it, and it was a no

(29:01):
brainer to start the show with that and really give
people kind of a tease into what Gruden's capable of,
what kind of head coach is and I think what
you'll see in the next five episodes as well. Tim,
you know, it's still early. I know in the process
and in the preseason. But is your sense that this
Oakland team is going to be very good this year?
I know that as a TV guy that's kind of

(29:23):
a random question. But you're behind the scenes. You said
you got four hundred hours of footage you guys are
sifting through for one episode. I don't know. Do you
get a sense this is gonna be a very good
team this year, A five hundred team or is it
gonna be a back to the basement four wins? I
honestly have no idea. I mean, as a filmmaker, I
think I'm probably not qualified to say whether or not.

(29:44):
I mean, I know that they're a young team that
I have to imagine they're improved just based on all
the roster moves that they've made. But I think, like
I would say, I'm probably not qualified to make that determination.
And a a little behind the curtain here, Tim Jason's got
money on the Raider season win totals a little bit.
I'm on the under that's all. It just totally selfish question.
I wish I could help you listen inside NFL Tim,

(30:06):
last one for me here we're talking to Tim Rompi
as a director of Hard Knocks, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. I'm a sucker for football documentaries, and
you do a football life as well too on NFL Network. Correct, correct, Okay,
I've done three of that, all right. I love those.
I watch every single one. I've seen every single one.
So I love hard Knocks, I love Last Chance You,

(30:27):
I love football. I have all that stuff. But how
much resentment do you get from certain coaches who It
feels like coaches don't really want to do hard knocks
a lot of time, but they're almost mandated. Is that
just them speaking and trying to give the front that
they're not all that into it, or is there real
resentment on set there when you're filming. No, I think

(30:47):
it's really from misunderstanding what the process is. Honestly, you know,
any coach that doesn't understand what it is would probably
think it's an intrusion. And coaches are private people. You know,
they don't want anybody that they view that's not part
of their team around camp. But you know, that first
couple of days that we're here the first week, and
now we've been there two weeks, I think they start

(31:09):
to get comfortable with us, understand who we are, know
us on a personal level, and it's all about building
that trust, and I think that's where we are now
with the Raiders. He is Tim Rumpt, director of Hard
Knocks Catching and it's every Tuesday night. There's gonna be
five episodes nine pm Eastern time on HBO. Correct Okay,
my bad? Ten pm Eastern time on HBO, all every

(31:32):
Tuesday throughout the rest of the season. Tim, thanks so
much for the time, man. We really appreciate it absolutely.
Thank you for having me. Thanks Tim, Jason McIntyre, Jonas
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(31:53):
is easier. I just want to ask, you know, Hard
Knocks interesting stuff from Tim. He's not going to pull
back the curtain too much. Do you think we're gonna
get a Vontes berfect or a Richie Incognito episode? Because
I'm being serious, those are two of the craziest players
in the NFL. I mean, or did the Raiders say, uh,
his hands off? We don't want those guys. They spotlighted

(32:16):
Richie Incognito on the first episode briefly, but not in
a manner that's normal. Yeah, he almost just sort of
him shaking hands with Antonio Brown. They showed Vontes berfect
where there was no issue there. I mean Richie Incognito
went to a funeral home and got in a fight
with the guy at the funeral home because he wanted
to remove his dead father's head. Okay, that was that was.

(32:37):
I think In the same offseason, he threw a dumbell
at a guy because he thought he was CIA at
the gym. Okay, this is we just have that guy's
own shows, for the love of God. Okay. So Richie
and I've actually dealt with him a little bit. Um.
I don't know if you guys remember that Jonathan Martin
Richie and Cognito stuff. So I know somebody who's friends
with Incognito and he was getting crushed in the press
when the stories came out. So we ended up talking

(33:00):
a lot, and he gave me a bunch of text
messages between It was a big story we broke on
the Big League, like I don't know, six seven years
ago and in Gunto's interesting. I'll say that he you know,
he seems normal and then the stuff you see out
there in the pressure like this ain't the guy I know.
And when you hear him talk, he's really bright, friends

(33:21):
him at once, smart guy um AND's going on and
a damn good football player. Yeah, one hundred percent. And
that's what I've always said. Look, we can talk all
we want. He's already suspended two games about Richie Incognito.
He shouldn't be in the league. And how's that guy
in the league? You know what I mean. First of all,
he's in the league because he can still play and
he's good. And secondly, when you hear some of those stories,
that's deeper than that guy's just a jerk. That guy

(33:43):
might have some issues upstairs, I think, And so I
think you have to look at a little bit helping
if he's not playing football. Yeah, it probably is pretty Yep.
He's Jason Mcatar. I'm Jonas Knox in for the couple
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Girls Cruise? Is that this weekend? Wait? Is that a

(34:46):
real thing? Yeah? Let's go live to our Rob Parker
Golden Girls Cruise insider, Rob Geara for the latest Rob
Classic theme that's actually coming up in the spring, and
we will have live lookins from the Golden Girls Cruise.
Rob promises the all mid dinner at around four pm
Pacific with a elderly woman sitting on his left. Okay,

(35:06):
so hold on, hold on, I've not heard anything about this.
I got it rob Gi. What do you mean he's
going on a Golden Girls cruise? Is it the TV
show Golden Girls or just old women? No Golden Girls?
The TV show themed cruise. Rob Parker will be the
only African American male in attendance. Oh my gosh, it's
just a stick or is he just a mid He

(35:27):
actually was on the waiting list for one cruise, got
booked up, so he able to get onto second cruise.
So is he going with any friends or so he's going?
So what? I would rather have Edward scissor hands give
me a physical than go on a Golden Girls cruise.
That seems like a horrible, horrible That's very short sighted, Jonas,
because you know these people got pensions and this is

(35:48):
a money chase. He's chasing some paper scam right now.
If you look at the of TV show theme songs,
Golden Girls has to be top fifteen, has to like
it's undeniable. I don't care what you think about the show.
I watched it with my mom growing up. I was
like ten, and it was a catchy, little, you know,

(36:10):
eighties TV theme song. I see somebody laughing at me
here in the studio. That's fine. I like to keep
it one hundred jonas not at any rate. I wish
Rob Parker luck with the grannies on the Golden Girls cruise.
And the live looking was hot. Yeah, the live looking
I will not be looking in. I couldn't pay me
to look at it. Pass. All right, So let's get it,

(36:33):
don't we? All? After that, they have all these Rob
He's just say insane stuff. He's out of his mind.
He's out of his when he's not posting pictures of
his abs on on Instagram? What as like a does
he bag like one of the biggest d bag moves
of all time? Rob Parker showing off his abs? This happen? Guy? Yeah?
Can you believe that? Guy? Wow? All right, So Jason McIntyre,

(36:57):
Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Lafloor, they have not yet played
a game, and yet they got the preseason coming up.
Who the hell knows of Rogers is going to play?
Probably not, who cares? But they are having joint practices
and it's weird. So they both had kind of differing
opinions on the joint practices with the Houston Texans. First
was Aaron Rodgers and right after him was Matt Lafloor.

(37:18):
I wouldn't mind if they didn't do it for another
fourteen years. Absolutely, I want to do this again. I'd
like to do it multiple times if we could. Yeah.
So Aaron Rodgers has already been had questions about being
able to audible. He's also now not liking the joint
practices that the packers would put together. Now he does

(37:39):
have some what of a point because apparently things got
a little bit out of hand. A Texans player went
a little bit over the top. You know, live kickoff drills. Yeah, yeah,
special team's drills is a bit odd to me. He
pointed out that, you know, the Players Association, I'll probably
take a look at that, and they probably will. Everything
that I've heard is that Aaron Rodgers had no say

(38:02):
in the hiring of Matt Laflour. Yes, none. And if
you're a guy who's done what he's done in the
league for that organization, if they don't even come to
you and say, hey, who do you? I mean, even
Jay Cutler was ultimately the decision maker that got Mark
Trestman the job over Bruce Arians because he sat with
him and he felt like he had a better rapport

(38:23):
with trestsman than he did with arians Jay Cutler. Aaron
Rodgers got no say so in the new head coach.
What do you make of that situation? Rodgers is thirty five,
I believe, so you know, it's not like he's got
ten years left. He maybe has a three four five.
But he's also the three years he sat when Brett
Farve was there, so he's not the same thirty five

(38:43):
as other players. That being said, he has been banged
double a lot, and last year he was hurt. I
mean from Week one against the Bears he hurt his knee. Yeah,
he basically was playing on one good knee. He was
never good. I gotta say he is an angry bloke.
There is no doubt about it. Aaron Rodgers has a
chip on his shoulder. I think dating back to the
draft where he felt he was like projected to go

(39:05):
one and then he falls to like twenty three. And
you know, Tom Brady has channeled it into positive energy.
I'm the one hundred ninety nine thick in the sixth round.
Aaron Rodgers is like, bleep, you you passed on me.
I'm getting payback. And he's still angry about it. And
you know, I'll give the Packer front office some credit
because a lot of organizations in a small town like that,
where they feel like they need to hold onto their

(39:26):
stars because they could lose them in free agency. They
basically put their foot down and said, listen, man, this
isn't your show. This is our show. We're gonna hire
the guy we want to hire, and we're not going
to let you chase him out of town like you
might have done with with Mike McCarthy, a guy who
had a lot of success here in Green Bay, and
SOS hated him. Yeah, and towards the enda got really nasty.
So I just it is going to be fascinated to

(39:48):
see how that plays out because they are so far
some back and forth through the media. He's Jason McIntyre.
I'm Jonas Knox in for Rob Parker and Chris Brussard
here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next. Do not
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(40:09):
Sports Radio. It is the odd couple here on Fox
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We take you all the way up until ten pm
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(40:29):
You hear him every Saturday morning seven a and Pacific
time on Saturday mornings. Correct, yes, right and early. Yeah,
So so people wake up early on the West Coast,
cure the hangover and hang out with jamac for three No,
I haven't had a drink Jonas on a Friday night
and so long unless I was not doing the show
the next day. Oh yeah, well, because yeah, you got
to do the show the next Yeah. I mean it's

(40:49):
you know, my wife is not thrilled that I've been
doing a Saturday morning radio show for three years. But
it comes with the territory, right. I like getting it
out of the way early, as opposed to like a
mid day's show makes it a little tougher to like
hang with the family, go to the beach, all that
fun stuff out here. Do you still have it? Because
I know you were the founder of the Big League
I was. Do you still have any poll over there?

(41:11):
Do you still talk to anybody? I mean I have
some poll? I know the guy's over you wanna get
hooked up with something. No, no, I just look for
a seventh And what I'd like to do is for
somebody over there to get off their lazy ass. And
if they're going to put together a list of best
shows in sports radio, why don't you include the weekend guys. Brody,
we got everybody does a list now, top forty, under forty,

(41:34):
top twenty five, under twenty five. Everybody's got a list now,
but the weekend guys can't get did Lee squat it's crack.
And you're a weekend guy, you should be sticking up
for us two bs man. And that's one of the
things that I probably don't do enough of it. And
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but like self promotion,
I never even would think, Hey, I gotta get on
a list. I want to be on a list. Yeah, okay,

(41:54):
let me tell you the right. There's probably what weekend shows,
national shows. There's probably fifty I would say best, and
that's probably at work our rival network. Yeah, like those
other networks. Let's call it fifty. I'm at least fifty two,
at least fifty two, at least honorable mention. Man, It
just okay, You're onto a great topic, because I gotta

(42:16):
ask you, like, Okay, week day shows, what do you
consider a good radio show? Might be different from Rob
g me, the guy who's making the list, Like, what
goes into what you think is a good radio show? Okay,
Well that's I mean, everybody's got their own opinion on
how that goes, So you should make a list. Okay,
But here's the problem. I can't make a list and

(42:38):
put myself anywhere on the list because then it just
feels like I'm being an a hole and I only
want to talk about myself. I want somebody to put
me on a list, preferably towards the bottom, so I
can smash them for four hours in the middle of
the night. That's all I want. I'm looking for a
reason to break someone's head on the air. That's all
I want. That's all I want to do. And I
think somebody needs to get together and put together a

(42:59):
list of the top shows on weekend sports radio and
stop being lazy, all right, don't hang out with the
wife and the kids one weekend. Just spend some time,
listen to the shows, and then tell us what you
think out here. Okay. A couple things. First of all,
that's too much work for these lazy internet writers. As
a guy who's internet writer for a long time, nobody
wants to do that stuff. Man, there's no you. All

(43:20):
you want to do is who's gonna click on my story?
That's who I need to include on the lists. So
if Joe Bob has a million Twitter followers, he's got
to make the list because I need the retweet. Okay.
So it's not really the quality of the shows Jonas.
And again, as a guy who was part of the lists,
I know that these guys out there will reach out
and say, hey, man, you should do a list. Can

(43:41):
I get on there? And they'll make the case. It's
kind of pathetic, and I think that's kind of how
it works. Yeah, it's an ugly business. Listen. Colin Cowherd
jokes with me about this all the time. He's like,
you know, when to get out of industries. I was
in newspapers when I met this girl who would end
up being my wife, and I was making like twenty

(44:01):
three thousand dollars your secrets. I look at my wife
the girl, and I'm like, all right, I gotta get
out of I can't make twenty three thousand dollars dating
this attractive woman who's going places. I had to get
out of newspapers, and of course newspapers cratered soon after,
and recently I I'm no longer with the big lead.
And what are you trying to say? Finished websites are

(44:21):
kind of trouble. Notice, I mean, you know, it's just
not a good time unless you're you know, doing these
lists all the time, or you have a good fire
hose from Google. And I don't know how much listeners
care about this, but it's just not a great time
worn right now. Social media apps, that's what's carrying the day,
not necessarily websites. Let me ask you, how many websites

(44:43):
do you go to daily? Oh? I don't. I mean
the ones that I can talk about on the air,
the ones that well we're not talking about poor do
Oh come, I forgot say normal, I guess cheese. Uh well, look,
just somebody out there just do do your damn job
and give us something to talk about it. Yeah, and

(45:04):
put me in jamac on there where weekend guys trying
to make it work in these uh, in the coal
mines of sports radio on the weekends. All right, Jason McIntyre,
Jonastocks in for Rob Parker and Chris Brussard here on
Fox Sports Radio. So Zeke still not at camp and
Oxnard in Cabbo. I still contend that he a bad
move by him to say he was going to Cabbo.

(45:25):
He should have said Mexico City, just because because listen,
if you if you say you go to Mexico City,
you can use the excuse of I'm training at altitude
like many fighters do. And I just think that Cabo
has sort of an air of vacation mode and Margarita's
and women and all that stuff that goes along with
I had a butt. Yeah. I was recently in Cabbo
about a month ago, and it is hot as hell there.

(45:48):
So he's losing weight training in CA. I mean it
was like ninety one every day in Cabbo a month ago. Yeah,
it's got to be like mid nineties to one hundred
every day now. And I know Zeke's not training indoors. Yeah.
I was in Cancoon in January. What a dump may
as well be downtown Sarajevo. What a what a turning
that I just was near there. But I'm dunis the

(46:09):
cartels and all that was taken over A yeah, but
we'll save that for hour four. All right. But here's
where we need to get into this because Steven Jones,
the son of Jerry Jones, spoke about the situation with
Zeke on one oh three five or excuse me, one
oh five three the fan in Dallas. Here was his
takeaway on the Zeke situation. I still think that's within realm.

(46:31):
At the same time, I think the market reset with Levion,
you know, I think you see what happens with Gurley,
how tenuous it is, and then you get a great
player to like Levion, who's every bit as well thought
of as as Gurley, and he had unfettered free agency,
had thirty two teams with no draft picks attached, and
the market was thirteen point five less than Girly. So

(46:51):
at the end of the day, business changes, and we
certainly pay attention to that as well. So that was
Stephen Jones talking about the Zeke situation and j Mack,
I know you in looking ahead see fool's gold with
the Dallas Cowboys, should they continue their hard stance and
not wanting to give them the deal little memory jug Jonas,

(47:12):
I believe it was ninety three, Emmett Smith holding out,
wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL,
and the Cowboys are like, well, holding firm, buddy, you
know we'll ride our backup. Whoever that was. At ninety three,
Cowboys open oz and two, Jerry Jones comes running begging,
you know the way that Toronto Raptors pathetic fans were
begging Kawhi Leonard to stay in, to run up to

(47:33):
take apart everybody. Yea, I mean, why do you got
to take apart Toronto? And Jerry Jones is like, whatever
you want, Emmett, please come back. Jerry opens a pocketbook,
Emmet comes to the team. They win the Super Bowl. Okay,
this year. If you look at the schedule, and again too,
I know you're a gambling guy, and I talk gambling
a lot on FS one. When you look at that

(47:54):
first three games, the Cowboys are going to be considerable
favorites against the Giants, the Dead Skins, and the Amy Dolphins.
We're looking at three and oh Dallas. If it's not
if Ezekiel Elliot, it's not there, and it's gonna be
like who needs Zeke. I'm telling you you're gonna write
the headlines now, and it's all gonna fall apart because
they are playing a difficult schedule. It will not be

(48:17):
easy for them. I think it's a first place schedule.
Do they beat out the Eagles for first place? Yes? Yes,
And they are gonna fall apart without Zeke it will
be a disaster Jonas I went deep on this on
my weekend show two weeks in a row. Dak Prescott
is an average to below average quarterback in the NFL. Okay,
I would rather pay Andy Dalton twenty mill than Dak thirty.

(48:37):
There's no way I'm not paying Ezekiel Elliott a three
down back. He's gonna run catch passes in block. They
need him or they're not going to the playoffs. And
he's got a different kind of leverage. And I've said this,
Melvin Gordon's got no leverage, right, He's a whatsoever. And
Melvin Gordon and Leabyon Bell or we're kind of in
different situations because Melvin Gordon's got his quarterback. His franchise

(49:00):
uarterback is Philip Rivers. They're set in stone. They were
four and oh without Melvin Gordon Leveyon Bell. It's like
the Steelers were gonna budge. They've got Ben Roethlisberger. James
Connor did a good enough job. He wasn't as good
as lebyon Bell, and they had a ton of talent
on that team. Didn't miss the playoffs. They did miss
the playoffs. But I think that Zeke has got a
different kind of power and a different kind of leverage

(49:20):
here because he doesn't have one of those quarterbacks in
Dak Prescott that's there. Week ten is the mark to
pay attention to, because this really he could hold out
to weekday. I think wow, I think I think he
would consider it, because if he shows up week ten,
he's going to get credited for a year. If he
doesn't show up at all this season, it's not like
leveyon Bell who was in the second franchise tag, he's

(49:42):
gonna lose a year. So he's gonna find himself in
the same spot if he sits out the whole year
two years from now, it's just going to roll the
contract over and it's going to be in a similar situation.
It feels though, like the Cowboys are getting more and
more annoyed, and I think Jerry Jones thought that him
to fending Zeke all the Times that he did publicly
ripping Roger Goodell going to bad form, so to speak.

(50:05):
I think Jerry Jones thought that that would carry a
little bit of weight during the negotiations and it hasn't,
and I think they're pissed off about it, which is
why this is interesting to watch. And the worst part
is a Marie Cooper's in line to get paid too.
So they were bad last year. Cooper shows up and
they go on this tear. But I mean, I'm not
paying a Marie Cooper before Ezekiel Elliott. And I don't
think Dak Prescott's very good. If you look at the

(50:27):
advanced stats. According to the Football Outsiders, Dak Prescott's like
the twenty four twenty fourth best quarterback in the league. Yeah,
and here's here's you're gonna give him thirty million. And
they've talked about that there's offers on the table. I
know Jane Slater from NFL Network has said there's offers
on the table that puts each of those guys and
the top five paid at their position. Okay, well, Zeke,

(50:47):
that's fine, okay, But and here's here's where this gets
even more tricky for the Cowboys. Everybody thinks, look, when
the Dallas Cowboys have got that much young talent, oh man,
they're in a great spot. None, they're actually not. And
here's why you can make an argument against paying all
three of these guys. You can make an argument against
paying Zeke based on what he's done off the field.

(51:08):
You can say, listen and the position he plays, Okay,
well done. A girl's top at a St. Patrick's day,
peris well now, but he's there was the issue press charge, Yeah,
there was the issue coming from college. Um, he had
a reputation in college. Joey Bosa reportedly moved out of
the house he was staying in with Zeke because it
got two wild hearty girls. But I'm saying if Dallas,

(51:30):
you know, they're bringing this stuff up to the negotiations,
and it's the running back position which always breaks down
early before everybody else. So I'm not saying they should,
but they could use that. You can also make the
argument if you were to list the top wide receivers
in the NFL, you might get to like fifteen before
m Are even Yeah I don't think he's top ten
for sure, Yeah, you like, you might get to fifteen,

(51:51):
And then if you were to list the top quarterbacks
in the NFL and somebody said they've got Dak Prescott
around number twenty. You can't really argue it. Even you could.
Even some people would argue maybe twenty two to twenty three.
So Dallas, although it seems like they're in this great
spot because they've got a quarterback that they took in
the fourth round and he's won a bunch of games
and he's durable. And then they got a running back

(52:14):
who's one of the top one running backs in the league.
And then they've also got a wide receiver who was
a number one pick and their pot committed to and
they traded a number one pick to get You can
look at that and say, man, Dallas is in a
great spot. I actually think they're in a really, really
difficult spot. I mean, listen, a really difficult spot to
Miami Dolphins. So they're not in a bad spot, but
they're in a very challenging how is that a better

(52:35):
word challenging? It is? You're right, you got to make
decisions on who to pay and listen, this is a
defense that's supposed to be awesome. And then let's see
j Anderson run for a buck fifty and then Gurley
had like a buck twenty five in that playoff lost.
They couldn't stop a nosebleed in that game. And I
just don't This is gonna sound radical, and I know
some people are gonna get angry. I firmly believe forty

(52:57):
nine Ers fan at all. Jonas not a fan, but
I watched Nick Mullins fill in last year for Jimmy Garoppolo,
and Nick Mullins had nobody. He was thrown at George
Kittle and a bunch of guys who were probably in
whatever the G league is of the NFL. Yeah, ay,
there you go, not the one the tank. They couldn't
pay their bills. Yeah, yeah, Nick Mullins. When when, by

(53:20):
the way, when when the when the founder of the
league calls you up and says, hey, man, uh, would
you mind not cash in that check till after six
thirty on Thursday? Then you know you got a problem
in your league. So Nick Mullins is thrown to that
type of player, and he was pretty good. Look at
the numbers, it's a small sample size. He was a
good quarterback last year. He's probably gonna be a top
three or four backup this year. If I'm Jerry and

(53:41):
I don't want to pay Dak, I would try to
make some kind of end run at Nick Mullins. Now,
I know people are gonna you're an idiot, Nick Mullins.
I'm telling you you need that quarterback on the rookie deal,
of the cheap deal. Look what the Jets did, Sam Darnold.
They got him on the rookie deal. Let's load up
Levy on Bell, bring in Crowder, give me CJ. Moseley
on defense, and all the smart teams are doing that,
and then you got to pay the guy one hundred

(54:02):
million and it kind of falls apart. Go ask the
giants about that. I promise. I promised myself. I was
going to give a standing ovation once an hour filling
in for Rob and Chris here on a Wednesday Last
Hour was John Gruden in his impactful speech to start
off Hard Knocks This hour, the hot take of the century.
Nick Mullins is the new starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboy.

(54:23):
They get app to Jason McIntyre. I love it. Swing
that act, baby, We're going hardy guy. If you're Jerry
and you call up an offer a second form, Mullins,
I don't even think the Niners do that. You don't
think the Niners would take a second round pick for
Nick Mullins. Jimmy Garoppolo has never played seven straight NFL

(54:43):
games in his career. He got hurt in New England,
hurt last year. Forty nine they got to deliver for
Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. You're scoffing at Mullins. I'm
telling you Mullins, Hey, rub Ge, we may need an
entire segment on Nick Mullins. He is a he is
a good looking young quarterback. Man. Wow, all right, Rob
d is just laughing. Hey, can you want to open

(55:04):
the phone lines? Let me get the Jabrones to call
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of Fox Sports Radio joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
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(55:25):
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(56:28):
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So there's this thing going out there, this a hashtag
called the Rich Paul Rule. Have you been seeing about
this Rich Paul Rule? You know, what. I gotta be honest, Jonaes,
I'm trying to do less Twitter outside of games and

(56:48):
like relevant stuff. Just I don't need my brain being
clouded by a lot of this nonsense. Did these people
are putting out there? Yeah. See, people are calling it
the Rich Paul rule because Lebron James and others are
under the assump and that the new criteria the NCAA
is outlined for agents to where they've got to have
a bachelor's degree, and they've got to have a certification
for at least three consecutive years, and they've got to

(57:09):
have liability insurance and all these other you know hoops
they've got to jump through. He doesn't have those, and
so therefore he would not be able to represent players
coming out of the draft. Now, somebody that works for
him or part of his group who does have those,
they can still represent them with him, you know, still
being involved behind the scenes. But some people have looked

(57:32):
at this and said, well, this is clearly them trying
to get after Rich Paul. They're not happy about the
control Lebron James has, so on and so forth. So
there's your dose of Lebron James being shoehorned into the conversation. Here,
the NBA is like the annoying little brother who wants
to keep hanging out with you and your friends, and

(57:53):
you're like, no, man, scram get out of here. It's
NFL time, everybody, NBA listen, you had a couple of
weeks go away, yeah with you? This is total nonsense.
First of all, um, Second of all, why do people
just want to go after Lebron. He's cheering on his
son at an AU game and it's a federal case
because it was late Juan. Then it's Taco Tuesday and

(58:14):
people are like, oh, he's what do they call that
cultural appropriation because he had his kid were a Mexican
had a dinner? Like, get the hell out of here
with the Lebron attacks. Yeah, it's just idiot. My biggest
issue with the Taco Tuesday is the fact that he
drinks wine with his tacos as somebody whose fiance is Mexican.
Oh you're amaze. You guys said a date yet Uh no,
now come on please? Uh yeah, you know, hey, look

(58:36):
you gotta listening. We got to land the plane. Hell though,
she's not listening, kid, Yeah, that's why. That's why I
can get away with the stuff I say. They tell her,
I'm at the wrong time. It's funny. Why do you
sound like Ben Maller. I'm like, oh, oh, I thought
it was on Maybe you don't get you don't get
that an affiliate. Um the rich Pole rules. So I
asked the producer, our esteemed producer before the show, who

(58:57):
are the five most powerful guys in the NBA right now?
Give me? Give me names? Most powerful people? Five? Lebron,
Adam Silver number four? Two? Um, Kevin Durant number three.
I don't know about that. Um. Who else power most?

(59:18):
Who's the president of the Players Union? I think he's
probably top five? Oh Chris Paul annoying little Yeah, yeah, listen,
you're not a big Chris Paul. I'm not a guy. Yeah. Here,
here's here's wait. I think you're missing one guy, okay,
Rich Paul. Oh yeah, presents Lebron. He's got Clutch sports

(59:39):
with just snagged Anthony Davis. Um, he's essentially remember David
Falk how he represented Jordan and Patrick Ewing and all
those starts. We're on the air, can you not say
that I'm sorry about that? Guys, and we're trying to
do a professional broadcast, Jason letting out the weekend vulgar
language talking about at any rate. Uh David falk f
a l k okay. He was the most powerful agent

(01:00:03):
in the eighties and nineties and he was controlling the NBA.
And now Rich Paul's doing it because he's Lebron's guy.
And you know, he's not a white guy. He's not
a polished businessman. People are going after Rich Paul here.
I this is just idiots. I don't know that it
has anything to do with race. Oh really, you don't
think race plays apart at all. I don't. I don't

(01:00:24):
know that that whole we're going that takes us down
a path that is just gonna go being nowhere, Like
we're just gonna Yeah, it's just gonna end up having
a conversation that I don't think needs to be had.
I would agree with you, but you know, Jonas, you
now this this cycle work, somebody's gonna make it about racing.
Freak out. I do believe there is a racial component here,
no doubt about it. Rich Paul was on the cover

(01:00:45):
of Sports Illustrated a couple of weeks ago. Remember, yeah,
right before free agency. It was obviously planted. You know, hey,
I'm Lebron, I'll give you access to my guy. We'll
hook you up whatever. And I actually think that did
more harm than good. When you have rich Paul, Lebron's
high school buddy on the cover of SI as you know,
power figure in the NBA. I think that angered a

(01:01:06):
lot of people, including media and college basketball. They're now
freaking out that if Lebron's guy wants to represent you
with high school soon to be straight to the pros again,
that's within the next two years. Yeah, you're looking at
it a dangerous time. Or college basketball is now worried
about the rich Poles of the world, not these little runners.

(01:01:26):
I know they're gonna say it's about these street agents.
They're worried about Rich Pole. Who do we ask you this?
Who do you think? Do you think I love my
fiance more or Lebron loves Lebron more? Like? Which one
do you think it is? Because that guy sure loves
him some Lebron. In fact, if you were to attribute
a Terrell Owens quote to Lebron, I love Why should
he do? I would hope he loves himself. I love

(01:01:47):
me some me, man, he is don't you love yourself? Jonas?
Not really what you're gonna be honest with yourself? I
don't really. You gotta work out themself, dare. But yeah,
it's not love yourself first. Not my man. But he
is over the time, love the fiance. He has entered
blowhard status. Really, Rob, gee, I know it's August, but

(01:02:08):
how is lebron a blowhard? Oh? It's everything's about him.
Oh this is affecting me every Come on, man, like,
I don't need to hear about Taco Tuesday, especially from
some guy who's a fraud because he's drinking red wine
with his Follow him on Instagram. You find me, You
find me one person from Mexico who drinks red wine
two buck chuck with their tacos. Nobody does it. They're

(01:02:29):
having a beer or yaritos. Right, Robert Gera, am I
wronger wine? Crappy tito? Racist? That is not racist? Set
the fact, man, Rob, I don't know. I gotta be honest, Jos.
I'm stunned that you're just going in on Lebron. I
just I just he's so into himself and I just
get tired of it. Man, if Michael had social media

(01:02:49):
in the eighties and nineties. I get it, be doing
the exact same I get it. That's fine, that's fine,
and you don't have to like it, that's fair. But
it just feels like misplaced. And if I didn't have
an Adams Apple, my name would be Jane. But you know,
things happen a lot of it, and we'll never know
how that would have turned out. All right. He is
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(01:03:53):
college football history on the network here, Okay, are you
a scorching hot? Not that incive'? In fact, I think
that's actually the cause of Antonio Brown's feet being the
way that they are. I think I didn't know that much.
I do love it, Okay, and it is a juicy one.
It is a juice twelve minutes from now here on
Fox Sports Radio right now, Amy Dash, who is our

(01:04:15):
Fox Sports Radio legal analyst, joins us here on FSR, Amy,
thanks so much for the time. We appreciate it. Thank you.
How was I teased something better than scorching hot? I hope? So?
Of course. I mean that. Listen, we we we know
how to alley oop our guests and build them up
in certain places. Jason's got a hot take, and then
we promoted you by saying a potential lawsuit in the

(01:04:39):
NFL before we get to so we can pay off
that tease and thank you for that. Yeah, before we
get to the to the rich Paul rule as it's
being called on social media. Trent Williams and the Redskins.
That is a situation. I think Zeke and Melvin Gordon
and some of those other holdouts are being talked about
and discussed. This one, though, could take a nasty turn.
Oh yeah. I mean, clearly, this guy is incredibly angry,

(01:05:02):
and it sounds like for good reason, there was some
sort of growth on his head and he believes that
he was misled by the medical team. Now, whether he
thinks that the actual team was behind it, we don't
know yet, but there could be some rumblings. I mean,
if he wants to leave the team, I think he
thinks that he was intentionally put back in the game,
that this wasn't just an innocent oversight. Maybe he doesn't,

(01:05:23):
but I don't know why he's demanding a trade. So
the only thing I can think of is that there's
a lawsuit on the horizon, and he can very easily
launch a medical malpractice lawsuit against these team doctors and
also against the club because they're the employers of the
medical staff, right, so he can rope them into it
and say that they had knowledge that they were violating
a standard of care to him, that they were putting

(01:05:45):
him at risk by not having him properly evaluate this
growth on his head, potentially downplaying it. So what kind
of proof would they need in order for him to
win a lawsuit like that? Would they need text messages, emails,
exchanges between doctors and coaches? Like what would they need
from him in order to win a lawsuit like that?

(01:06:05):
It could be all of that, but as you know,
that could be really difficult to get. It could be
something as simple as just other doctor's opinions. They bring
in medical experts, and the medical experts say, listen, I
mean this. He should have been sent let's say for
a cat skin or an MRI, and he wasn't. So
it could be also the omission thinks that the doctors
didn't do that normally would be done in the medical industry.

(01:06:27):
And then he can of course like assert his own
motives to that as to why it wasn't done and
whether the team is involved. But yes, of course to
open the team he does meet a little bit more
approved because he has to show intent. So, Amy, do
you think that this is a possible ploy to get
him out of town? Like, Hey, I might sue you guys,
or do you think he would actually do it? Because
I guess you run the risk of the rest of

(01:06:49):
the league seeing that, and then you're like, ooh, do
I is this a risky guy to take on given
what just went down in Washington. My opinion, and it's
purely an opinion, I don't think he cares. I think
he's demanding. If you really, I think he's demand. He's
got the leverage of the lawsuit, He's got the leverage
of the hold out. He's like, I'm not playing, get
me out of here. There's a lot of tension in animosity,

(01:07:12):
and I think once he's traded or once he goes elsewhere,
he's going to stew anyway. But that's just my opinion.
She is Amy Dash Fox Sports Radio legal analysts joining
us here on FSR, Jonas Knox Jason McIntyre in for
Robin Chris. This is the odd couple here on Fox
Sports Radio. So to the what is being called the
rich Paul rule on social media, obviously the new NCAA

(01:07:34):
agent eligibility rules, does Rich Paul is there enough here
to where they could also take some sort of illegal
action against the NCAA by putting this out there, thus
eliminating him from being able to rep some of these
players that are coming out of the draft. Okay, so technically, yes,
technically he can bring an antitrust lawsuit, right, and he

(01:07:54):
can say that they're limiting the competition in the marketplace.
I don't think it would necessarily win because if you
look at how many people have bachelor's degrees or can
obtain bachelor's degrees, I mean, there's obviously enough of a
competitive market. So he'd have to show that, really that
the benefits of this rule you outweighed. Well, they'd have
to show that the benefits of the rule outweighed any

(01:08:15):
damage to competition. And I think that they can show
it because obviously it's advantageous to have somebody who's professionally
educated advising some of these kids in college. But I
just think that this is the biggest pr move by
Lebron James. I mean, calling it the Rich Paul rule.
Now he's made Rich Paul into like this massive celebrity.
It's all about Rich Paul. I don't think it has
anything to do with Rich Paul. Nothing to do with

(01:08:38):
Rich Paul. I think that this came from the recommendations
from Condoleeza Rice in her commission. If you look at
the structure of that commission. You have all highly educated
people on there, I mean even the NBA people. You
had Grant Hill, you had David Robinson. I spoke to
Admiral David Robinson a while back about this, and half
of the conversation all he was talking about was how

(01:09:00):
advantageous it was for him to get his degree, how
much he believes that the kids that are in college
should stay in college and get their degree. Now, the
commission even said, listen, we want the one and done
rule out. Okay, if people don't want their college degree
is then we don't want them wasting that spot. We
want someone else to get it. So I think, really,
this is just a rule that's been put in place

(01:09:21):
by people from a highly educated commission to protect the
athletes from exploitation. And you have all these people out
there saying, oh, the NCAA is just trying to make
money off of it. I just don't follow that rational
because you have an Asian with a bachelor's degree versus
one without a bachelor's degree, and you're saying that the
one with a bachelor's degree isn't going to want to
make the same amount of money off of an elite

(01:09:42):
NBA prospect as the one with that. So only if
you don't have a bachelor's degree you want to make
money off of this guy. But if you've got a
bachelor's degree, then you're going to risk him getting injured
and going and playing in college and you're going to
lose the millions of dollars you could make. I mean,
it's a ridiculous argument. And the last thing I'll say, oh,
that is it. If you look at the NFL, and
you even look at the NBPA, the NBA Players Association,

(01:10:05):
they require their agents to have graduate degree undergraduate degrees,
and they make exceptions and limited circumstances of people who've
negotiated a lot, but that's one of their basic requirements.
And if you look at the NFL, do you know
that agents in the NFL not only have to have
an under graduate degree, but they have to have a
master's or a law degree to be an agent. Yeah,

(01:10:26):
but amy you know, and I agree with someone which
you said, even in the NBA, some of these agents,
despite all their pedigree and all their degrees, they're still
steering these athletes toward financial ruin because some of these
financial advisors take advantage of them. So you know two
or three degrees. I don't think it really matters. And
I do think though you're onto something with the exploitation.

(01:10:48):
We know the college athletes are getting screwed. Okay, they're
the ones generating the revenue. And at Condoleeza Rice, I
have zero faith in her to do anything at all
in college sports. I mean, do you really thinks she's
going to form some massive turnaround someone who you know,
presidential cabinets, that's her level, and she's coming down to
college sports to tinker. Well, I see what you're saying.

(01:11:11):
First of all, I agree with you. I don't think
that you can say because someone has a bachelor's degree
that they're quality person and their ethical I mean, obviously
you can't. And what it does is when you have
all these requirements in place, Well, now people are subject
to these union agreements, right because they have to be certified.
And within these certified union agreements, there is arbitration, there's
a complaint process, there's a disciplinary process. So now there's

(01:11:33):
recourse if there are violations for these athletes. And what
I'll say, I got the commission and the changes they're making. Yes,
a lot of people don't have faith in it. But
listen the fact that NCWA players cannot even work with
agents during the drafting process. That's a landmark change for athletes. Okay,
so they are getting things done. I mean now you're
seeing stricter guidelines for agents getting certified and the nc

(01:11:57):
stutulay that gain no recommendation. So I think a lot
of things will slowly start to change. It's any people
are criticizing how the NCAA is doing it because they
don't feel that they're awarding it properly. She is Amy Dash,
Fox Sports Radio Legal analysts. You can get her on
Twitter at Amy Dash TV. Amy great stuff. We really
appreciate it. Welcome to the FSUR family. Great to have you.

(01:12:18):
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me out here. I don't know Falcon, Thank you, Rob

(01:16:02):
g Yes, Papa Doc. Great actor, very good actor at
any rate. One of the lines from minem is because
free World's got you gassed up, I can wrap the
whole thing. Because I'm a loser, I will. I am
gassing up Trevor Lawrence. So I went to the NFL
combine a few years back to back for the big

(01:16:22):
lead way back, and I got to know some people,
got on a text relationship with them friends. And then
I get to FS one and oh, this guy's on TV.
Maybe I can float up some stuff. So I talked
to some of these NFL guys and they are gaga
over Trevor Lawrence the way you're in love with your
fiance right now. That'll fade, by the way they these
NFL people are enamored with Trevor Lawrence. Big Clemson kids,

(01:16:44):
looks like Sunshine from Remember the Titans. And he is
two years of college left. And I said on my
weekend show, I guess two saturdays he go that right
now for a game, for a month, maybe for a season.
I would take Trevor Lawrence over five or six NFL quarterbacks. Yeah,

(01:17:06):
I named case Keenum, who was just lucky the one
year in Minnesota. Otherwise he's not very good. Right now,
I would take Trevor Lawrence as the Giants quarterback over
Eli Manning. I would take Trevor Lawrence over Joe Flacco
in Denver. I would take him over Jeez, Josh Allen
and Buffalo. I know some people. There's Josh Allen, Truther's
out there, and without question, Miami has the worst quarterback

(01:17:30):
combo in the league and fits magic or fits Tragic
if you will, and Josh Rosen. I would take Trevor
Lawrence over all those guys right now at nineteen years old,
to be my star. And I believe you said Lamar
Jackson as well too, which I did. Lamar was kind
of on the fence. I like Lamar Jackson more than
a lot of people. So you think Trevor Lawrence right
now is a better NFL Yeah, now that's a different question, Okay,

(01:17:50):
who would I take? I think Trevor Lawrence has all
the tools to be a mass potential. If you said,
right now we week one, who do I want facing
the Cowboys? Lie Manning or Trevor Lawrence. I would take
Trevor Lawrence, Okay, you're insane. That that is that's insane.
Je Waiting, you let me go three minutes because year
out of your damn because because I am not like

(01:18:11):
call Waiting. I don't want to just interject in the
middle of a conversation. I want you. I wanted you
to finish your point. But you can't say we've got
one year on Trevor Lawrence. I love the measurables. I
love the guy's release. Skill wise, he's as impressive of
a quarterback as we've seen in a long time. But
we've got one year a sample size, and majority of
those games were against the diaper fire. That is the

(01:18:32):
acc I gotta see a little bit more before I'm
talking about this guy as a starting quarterback. Judge is
ruling with a gavel. We need more time on this
because we're going up against the break. I'll just counter
with this. Notre Dame in Alabama, we're both top ten defense.
I got it, he shredded them in the book. Great,
but Notre Dame in Alabama defenses come on. I mean,
the NFL is another level. They probably got eight guys

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in your DVR, Piled in your DVR after taking a
well earned vacation, you will find Hard Knocks from HBO.
I can't wait to see Hard Knocks after nine or
two one oh tonight. Yeah, and I will be watching

(01:20:00):
nine two one. Oh um, if nothing else existed and
it would save my life. That is when I would
be watching. Hey, by the way, were you a Kelly
or Brenda fan? I didn't even know who they are.
Everybody know they were cultural icons. Bro Kelly, Kelly, what
is it you guys got? Is this a joke? K

(01:20:21):
Kelly Kapowski ended up on the show as Valerie. By
the way, Kelly Coopowski got us. Yeah, I agree, Yeah,
oh yeah, definitely, yeah. I mean, I mean Jenny Garth, Yeah,
you can't talk about girls, dad. Kelly was Jenny Garth
the blonde, and then Brenda was shann and Doherty the brunette.
I have an affinity for brunettes. I mean, I've dated blonde,

(01:20:43):
but my wife is a brunette. Brenda was a brunette
and I leaned slightly. Brenda. I feel like you're reading
your bumble profile, like describing you that last year. I've
been married for twelve years. Yeah, you know, hey, listen, man,
it uh bumble like like fishing with an oozy very
not not difficult at all, but no. So hard Knox

(01:21:07):
is going to be on your DVR. People are excited
about it. You've got tons of personality. You've got tons
of characters. Yeah, Vonte's perfect, Ritchie incognito, Antonio Brown feet
or no feet? Uh, John Gruden, I mean there is
a list of characters there. When it comes to Hard Knocks. Now,
John Gruden introduced the world to what this year's Oakland

(01:21:29):
Raiders are gonna be like. This was courtesy of the
debut of Hard Knocks on HBO. Everybody right now has dreams,
don't they, guys. I set it to the rookies, all right,
everybody in the NFL. I have a dream of making
it in the NFL. I got a dream of winning
a Super Bowl. I gotta dream of being in a
Pro Bowl. I'm really not into dreams anymore. Okay, I'm

(01:21:49):
in the nightmares. You guys with me on night. You
gotta end somebody's dream. You gotta take their job, you
gotta take their heart, are you guys? You guys clear
about this NFL Now, we're not trying to go to
the Peach Bowl. We're not trying to go to the
Gator Bowl or the Blue Bonnet Bowl. We're trying to
go to the Super Bowl, Okay, And to do that
you got to really try to end somebody's dreams. Are
you clear on that? Ferrell? Okay, I mean that now,

(01:22:12):
so get into that. Yeah, it makes you what to do.
Preach your curls with big plates. You know you don't
preach your curls? Are I mean you're I don't even lift?
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh
me so jacking? You know what I feel like? Can
I use the word fraud for John Grude? Isn't too
early in his tenure. No, that's fine, hasn't had a preseason.
He just feels like a big phony to me. Okay,

(01:22:32):
I mean, look, I like to get reckless too, just
to see if anybody's listening. I don't think that's that reckless.
I mean the guy, what has he done? I get
Jonas twenty years ago? You know you were what elementary school?
Twenty years ago? The middle I was four, So you
were a young guy at four. Care free. That's on
the last time John Gruden was good? Okay as an
NFL coach, Go look up post super Bowl with this guy.

(01:22:55):
Got it? Listen, I got it. But he also does
have a track record of success with NFL quarterbacks. I
mean he's gotten by Jeff Garcia went to a Pro
Bowl underneath John Gruden. Rich Gannon turned around. Rich Gannon's
career underneath John. You know, I actually went to a
Pro Bowl as well as a cornerback. He did everywhere

(01:23:15):
he look. I'm just saying, it's not like he's driven
quarterbacks careers into the ground. And that's why I want
to have this conversation with you, because John Gruden. You're
critical of John Gruden. I am not. I still think
he's a good coach. Is he overrated? I'm sure he's
a little bit overrated. Did being on ESPN all those
years help his resume even more? Of course it did.

(01:23:35):
He was on a spotlight. He was making the most
more money than anybody at ESPN, So of course his
his resume and his aura and reputation got better and
better as time went on, and people forgot about the
losing seasons and they just remember the successes. Here's what
I'll say, the best parts of Hard Knocks the past
couple of years have been about the coach quarterback relationship.

(01:23:58):
And you can tell a lot about the coach quarterback relationship.
You want to go back a couple of years ago,
when it was dirt Cutter and Jamis Winston. Oh yeah,
it felt awkward. It felt like that wasn't going to work.
And as it turns out, that didn't work. Hugh Jackson
Baker Mayfield a year ago. That felt uncomfortable. It felt
like that wasn't going to work. And lo and behold,
that one didn't work. I'm watching John Gruden and I'm

(01:24:20):
watching Derek Carr, and I'm fascinated to see how it
plays out, because I'm not one hundred percent sold on
John Gruden being sold on Derek Carr. And the Raiders
can get out of that contract for about five million
dollars at the end of the season if they can't
find a trade partner. And all I'm saying is this,
you're moving to Las Vegas. There's potentially going to be

(01:24:42):
a quarterback on the market available who just so happens
to be the biggest star in the sport. Tell me
right now, hold on, let me just let me finish.
Tell me right now, if available and things play out
the way some people think they might play out, that
John Gruden wouldn't welcome the opportunity. Need to work with
Tom Brady in Vegas's hot. That's too hot. I shouldn't

(01:25:05):
on my phone to stop. That is Jonas, that's insane.
We're off the rails here an hour number three. Tom
Brady leaving the Patriots to play for John Gruden in
the dumpster fire that is the Raiders. I'm not gonna
go there, but use that Gruden knows quarterbacks. Here we
go football outsiders. Last year, Derek's cars stats were his
worst since his rookie season. I thought the guy new quarterbacks. Yeah,

(01:25:27):
that's football outsiders. You're talking to football insiders here, and
I'm telling you right now that Tom Brady is gonna
be a Las Vegas Raider a year from now. Tom,
don't let it end like that, go out on top
like John Elway riding off into the sunset. Brady, you
can't go from three super Bowls to sweltering in that
desert heat playing for the maniacal crazy person. Here's okay

(01:25:47):
the way I actually no, there's no chance of that, Jonas.
You know why the Raiders are gonna stink and they're
gonna get tah Or they're gonna get Trevor Lawrence in
the next year. Trevil Lawrence isn't gonna be available on
this track two years, okay, But you tell me that
if Tom look he the Patriots didn't offer an extension
pass this year. He's there's the franchise tag is out
the window on Tom Brady. There's an agreement there to

(01:26:08):
where they can't sign to the franchise tag. Tom Brady's
annoyed that they didn't give him a longer term deal.
He wants to keep paying what time not time out?
Is he annoyed that he didn't get to and he
spoke about it. You could tell by the tone in
his voice, the way Tom Brady spoke about it. It
is what it is that audio I need to hear
because I must have missed that. And he put his
house on the market. I don't think everything is hunky

(01:26:30):
dory in New England for Tom Brady and the Patriots.
Otherwise they would have given him the long term deal
that he was seeking. He didn't get it. They put
his house on the market so he could be available
at the end of the season. All I'm saying is this,
John Gruden, and you made this point during the break.
So he gets rid of Khalil Mack and what does
he do. He pays Antonio Brown and all these other
big yeah, and they'll welcome in players based on just

(01:26:54):
who they are, Richie Incognito, Antonio Brown, Vontes Burfett, all
these hast of characters. If you think for one second
that the Raiders wouldn't be open to the idea of
having Tom Brady open up their brand new stadium in
Las Vegas, they would. That's all I'm saying, Man, I think,
I think, I think it's a legit possibility. I need

(01:27:16):
to rob g You know, can you get on that
audio of Tom Brady so allegedly being unhappy he's forty
two Jonas forty two? Maybe Brady says, I got one more.
Let me see if I can win one another one
without ground yeah? Or Belichick, Well, Belichick's not go. I
mean no, if anything that will crush Brady to leave
the Patriots at forty three, go to Oakland for play

(01:27:40):
for Gruden and then stink. I agree, And I would
not leave the Patriots if I were Tom Brady. But
I think that he's bothered by what went down with
this contract he just signed, and I think the Patriots
are looking around, going we've got to move off this
sooner rather than layer. How much more time does he
actually have to play? I think you see is about

(01:28:00):
wanting to play till he's forty five. And if John
Gruden had the opportunity to work with a Tom Brady,
he would welcome it. Because Derek Carr wasn't his guy.
That was a Reggie Mackenzie draft pick. Derek Carr was
That's not his guy. He was there. And so when
a coach takes over a quarterback who was already there,
he has no loyalties. Damn. It's like Mike Vrabel and Tennessee.

(01:28:21):
You think Mike Vrabel and Tennessee has any loyalties to
Marcus Mariota. There's no loyalty. Yeah, if Mariota stinks this year,
he's out the door. I think that if Derek Carr
has a subpar year and they go six and whatever,
they go again and they realize they're gonna have to
pay him the twenty something whatever a million dollar hit
next year, they're gonna look at this and go, is

(01:28:42):
that the best way to spend our money? And if
we're going to a new place, why not have somebody
on a short term deal that we know is going
to draw and gonna be the biggest story in the NFL.
And it would be Tom Brady and the Raiders. I
don't think what's your percentage chance of that happening? Oh
Jesus two point seven. I'll put a twenty one next

(01:29:05):
to it. Yeah, so one in five times the greatest
quarterback in NFL history at forty three. We'll try to
keep it going with John Gruden and the Las Vegas Raiders.
Oh my god, that would be such a stain on
Brady's legacy to go there and go like, you know,
six and ten. Let's go through the quick quarterback history.
Can I make a wager with you if it loved him?

(01:29:25):
All right? If it happens, you have to climb up
the side of the lux Or naked with my Twitter
handle running down your spine. Um, we'll work on work
on the ac wager. The lux Or out random. It's
a crappy hotel. You talking about the Cosmo, you know?
At any rate, Let's go through the quarterbacks who have

(01:29:49):
ended their career in futility playing for a crappy franchise. Um,
I got nobody. I mean Peyton Manning went to Denver
and was incredible and then he sucked the last year
and then he retired. Look, I'm not saying he's going
to be an All World quarterback. I'm just saying I'm
not one hundred percent sold on John Gruden and Derek Carr.
You know, no, I agree a thousand percent. That is

(01:30:11):
a I mean, Derek Carr is very religious. He doesn't
say bad words. He's like a He's the guy who
picks up somebody on the side of the road. He's like, oh,
you need a ride. You know, Derek Car's a good
human being. John Gruden is the captain fbomb. He's talking
about dirty jokes. I mean, the guy's a savage. He's
a locker rooms guy, and I would agree with you.

(01:30:31):
I don't think they worked things out. But at the
same time, man, I can't fathom a scenario Tom Brady
is playing for the Las Vegas Locomotives. Yeah. Yeah, but listen,
although you you being one of the guys who likes
to throw out the hts on the weekend, I mean,
what's what human being in the sports media doesn't throw
out hot takes? Give me one, Well, that was my

(01:30:53):
first that I've ever thrown out. I mean, I keep
I'm as straight as an arrow here on Fox Sports Radio. Listen,
I'm all about just giving you the facts. I'm a
fact spitter here on FSR, but I'm just telling you, man,
if it happens, I would full credit for You're all
starting to the same guy who said, over a year
in advance, Jay Cutler is going to finish his career
in Miami. I said that here on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:31:15):
Now I've said a bunch of things that were wrong,
but we don't need to talk about all that because
you guys are negative and I'm not. So this is
simply to ball wash ourselves here on FSR. Second reference
to ball washing, Yeah, I personally was not aware we
could use that on the air. Yeah. I will be
using that from now. Listen. It's a great term, absolutely
great type. I think we could use it all right.
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(01:32:39):
Seat and our guest inside the Hot Seat, no doubt
about it is on peeds, not even a question in
my mind. He is on the gas. If they tested
in Sports stock radio for peeds, I mean this guy
would light up. I mean multiple time offender eighty games
if you were in Major League Baseball, eighty games right

(01:33:00):
off the bat, right before even stepped up to the plate.
So that'll be coming up ten minutes from now. He
is the Jew said, man, it's true. Listen, We'll just
set him up for it. I think he just graduated
from Swool Universe and he did. Yeah, he is. He
is on the gas all right, So that'll be coming
up ten minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:33:21):
I love, and, by the way, the hot take that
I just had where I said Tom Brady starting quarterback
for the Las Vegas Raiders next year break the internet. Yeah,
Guy writes in, this is how this is how hot
of a take that was, and how much positive feedback
I've gotten. Guy writes in and says that has to
be by far one of the worst takes ever. Whatever
you're drinking, I want some. So I think we're onto

(01:33:42):
something here. Yes, I think we're onto something so so
far positive feedback on that one. Adam Gaze. I love
Adam Gase. I love him. I love everything about him.
I love his personality. I love the fact that he's
good friends with Jay Cutler, which tells you everything you

(01:34:02):
need to know. I love Adam Gaze. You found something
on Adam Gaze that goes to show you very loyal friend,
very loyal coach. Yeah, it's the family stuff he might
have to work on. So you know, what's the movie
Tom Cruise and Jerry McGuire where he wakes up from
the night with whatever her name, Vanilla Sky. No, that's

(01:34:23):
a great movie. That's that's a really a great movie.
But Jerry McGuire, you were just like, I love Adam Gates,
I love love. That was like where she was in
the kitchen saying like how she loves Jerry McGuire and
she's like, oh, dang, he's right behind me now, one
of them. Anyways, I wish Adam Gays is here. His
nickname is Goose. By the way, Oh, that's a cool nickname, Goose.
So there's an article on the internet. I think it's

(01:34:44):
the Athletic Adam Gaze has his eyes locked on a
bright future for the Jets, and it talks about how
Adam Gaye's wife went into labor a few years back
and they had they had a plan C section actually,
which Adam Gaye said, please schedule it for ten Am.

(01:35:07):
I have a meeting it too, with Peyton Manning I
can't miss because he's the Broncos offensive coordinator. And so
you know, the baby comes out, Adam Gays, Oh, it's great. Great.
Do you want to cut the umbilical cord? Nope, I'm good.
I'll see you later. He pieces out, like, your wife
just get murched. So he shows up at the practice

(01:35:28):
and Peyton Manning goes, didn't your wife just give birth
a couple hours ago? And Adam Gaze is like, yeah,
I can't miss this though, and he's getting murdered on
the internet by these losers who are like, what I
a awful human being. Meanwhile, there's other parts of this
story about Adam Gays, coach of the Jets, that say,
like one of his assistant coaches got hit by a

(01:35:48):
bike and they were going to amputate his leg, and
he stayed like the whole night in the hospital and
or got the family there, and he's there for everybody
in his football family, Jonas, you know, yeah, and for
his family, you know, not really there a lot. He's
at home to sleep for a couple of hours during
the season, then he's back in the office. And I

(01:36:09):
gotta say, people are crushing Gaze And my thought is, listen,
we're all wired a little differently, and like, that's not
how I would operate. Although I will note my wife
got on my case for watching March Madness while she
was like in an eight hour labor But I'm just
sitting there what are you gonna do? Exactly say it
tourn him and it was on I was on the

(01:36:30):
TV in the room, so I didn't think it was
bad at any rate. Um, Adam Gays is just like
wired differently. I can't kill him for it. I mean,
I got nothing wrong with that. I don't think it's
awesome to not be there when your wife gives birth.
It was unclear if it was his first kid, second
or third. You know, maybe they've been through this droob before.
Not a huge deal. Um, but I did love this

(01:36:52):
stat uh, this nugget, and I'll turn it over to you.
Adam Gays does not have a window in his office,
so he doesn't know what time it is, kind of
like Las Vegas, so he doesn't want to know, Oh,
son's going down. I got ahead home. He's just like,
I'm in the office, I'm not coming home. Kind of cool. Hey,
look he's committed to it. It's like, and you can

(01:37:14):
be critical all you want everyone. Leabyon Bell ironically on
the New York Jets as well. Leveyon Bell called in
because like those women were in his bed and they
stole like a bunch of jewelry after he left, And
I said, Look, everybody can crush lebon Bell for Oh
my god, this guy's an idiot. How could he trust
those women there? You're bearing the lead. Lebon Bell left

(01:37:35):
nude women in his bed to go work out. All right.
That's dedication, that's commitment that got him that guaranteed money
with the Jets. I would have given him more based
on that story alone. All right, So so we can
we can look one direction, but I choose to look
in the other. If he doesn't want to be there
for the C section, or if he wants to get
out of there right after it happens, that's his business. Again.
I wouldn't operate that way. But that's also coming from

(01:37:57):
a guy who lied to his girlfriend one time, years
and years ago, told her he had to work and
couldn't make her birthday, And the truth was he just
wanted to watch the dal La Joya may Weather fight
wo her birthday. And yeah, how long had you guys
have been dating? Quite a while? Yeah? What's I mean?
Four months? Like? No, no, no, it was well over

(01:38:18):
a year. Oh yeah yeah, but listen, that was a
prior party. In my mind, I would rather do that
than go horseback riding in in Guadalajara or wherever the
hell they were got sweat. I used to work at
US Weekly, and I was the guy who would get
all the plumb Super Bowl assignments. And he wants to
go to the Maxim party, the Playboy party, Oh right
over here. And I had a buddy who was married

(01:38:40):
at the time. There's no way they're listening, so it's
all good. And um, he would tell his wife, I
got a work trip. Um, I'm gonna leave a day
early to prepare it. And he would fly to hang
with me at the super Bowl. We could go to
the Playboy party, Maxim Party. This is for like two
or three straight years. And then he would just like
fly home from his work trip. Um, and like, listen,
some guys lie a little bit. At least Adam Gays

(01:39:02):
is up front. There's no fake in the funk here.
He's not scurrying around with women all hours of the night.
He's upfront, like, I'm not coming home. I'm working because
we're facing Tom Brady this week and I need to
beat Bill Belichick. So I got a scheme scheme this
week up. Do you know how many how many kin
Signetta's I've gotten out of because I tell them, hey, listen,
I work in sports. I gotta I got you know,

(01:39:23):
I gotta watch that game. What's the Kinetta Kinciannetta. It's
a fifteen years old right, let's go live to our
kincinera requirement insider Robert Giera for the latest Robert, it's
a coming of age party for a young woman fifteen
years old. Fifteen years old, you shouldn't be dressed up
in It's a huge deal, right, It is a very big,
huge deal. Watching Narcos Mexico, you'll figure I've seen the

(01:39:45):
new one. I haven't seen that yet. Wait, way, I
hold on, hold on. It's a similar to what's the
Jewish event at sixteen? Very similar? Okay, Gotti? Similar? I
didn't boat Pintzvah. Yeah, I didn't some one of those. Yeah,
because I'm not Jewish or Mexico. I'm might, but listen,
and I have been to a bunch, But when I
don't want to go to one, that's when I pick
and choose and say, hey, listen, look, I gotta I
gotta work. You know, this game's on and I gotta

(01:40:07):
watch because we're doing a big thing for it on
the show. How many great excuses. I mean, it's like,
it's it's not it's remember but here's the thing, the
damage you were doing here, it's not it's not really four.
It's for the fifteen year old. And then it's for
all the adults that they can drink. That's really what

(01:40:28):
it is. It's an excuse for adults to drink. You know,
It's just that's not the worst thing in the world. Yeah,
up with a mom on a kin scenario. Yeah, but yeah,
I mean, and uh and you know, again, we don't
want to get rob in trouble, but I'm sure that
has happened from Diner's time. But point being, Rotimes looks
a little older. Sometimes you've got to use the excuse
of work to get out of certain things that maybe

(01:40:48):
you don't want to be a part of. Ourn't is
into Adam Gase. I love Adam Gaze and the fact
that you know he wanted to bail out on the
C section so he could meet up with Peyton Manning.
You gotta do what you gotta do. He's passionate history.
By the way. For people out there that take the
approach of oh my god, Adam Gase, I mean, what
did he do in Miami. First of all, here's a fact.

(01:41:11):
When you leave a situation where you didn't really win
much and you get a job right away that same
offseason in the NFL, it's because the league knows you're
really good at what you do. Adam Gaze has been
highly thought of for years and years and years. Adam
Gates actually had the forty nine ers job lined up

(01:41:31):
years ago when they got rid of Jim Harbaugh. They
wanted to hire Adam Gaze. They told him the job
is yours, but you've got to keep Jim. Tom Sula
is your defensive coordinator, and Adam gay said, no, I
want to retain Vic Fangio. They said no, no, That's
why Tom Seula got the job. Adam Gaye said, screw you.
Went to the Bears. Jay Cutler had his best season

(01:41:52):
of his career and then got another head coaching job.
Your Jets have themselves a head coach. I'm aware they
might have themselves a quarterback, and they definitely have themselves
a running back. Quick note on the Dolphins. So first
year he goes there, Ryan Tannehill has the best season
of his career and they get to the playoffs. Like
Gaye is good Man mad positive and Matt Moore was

(01:42:13):
the starter of the playoff game against the Steelers. Yeah.
So no, he's he's a very good coach. He can't
situations dictate reputation sometimes and sometimes that's not fair. And
I think Adam Gaze has looked at as a guy who,
oh my god, he what did he do in Miami
the Jets, I mean completely over went over the head. Yeah,

(01:42:33):
and hired some guy who's not qualified for this. Adam
gaves a good coach. I think he's going to do
good things in New York with the Jets. All Right,
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(01:43:15):
weekdays at seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific. All right,
coming up fifteen minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio,
there is a major sporting event that is dead to me,
dead regular Now, come on, we don't have to pile
on it. But this is Rob Parker's show. I mean,
nobody defends Major League Baseball like Rob Parkers rock them. Yeah,

(01:43:36):
that life is too short to watch baseball in August looks.
You know. I'm not gonna say that I agree or disagree.
It just depends on who's listening from time to time.
All right, so we will have that for you. There
is a major sporting event that is dead to me.
The Big reveal fifteen minutes from now here on Fox
Sports Radio. Jonas knocks Jason McIntyre here on FSR every
single Wednesday. Here on the show, it's called the Hot Seat.

(01:43:59):
Where somebody, a Fox Sports Radio alum, a legend, gets
on the seat, things get hot, things get controversial. I
already know where this conversation is gonna go, and it's
gonna get nasty. Damn son. The current temperature beyond couple
are making it hot in here. Damn hot time to
sit your butt down in the hot seat. That's right,

(01:44:24):
it is the hot seat, the cup of Fox Sports Radio.
We do it every single Wednesday at nine thirty pm Easter.
We invite one of these Fox Sports teammates and tonight's victim,
the gas man, David Gascon, David ga juice head, tough gas.
Good evening, gentlemen. I guess I'm happy to be here.

(01:44:45):
I don't know if I can piggyback off that Kurt
stopping of an update, but I hope I'll get done
like Bran family has Gascon. In case you missed it, Um,
Jason McIntire claims that you're on PDS. I never said that, dude,
What is that pizza enchiladas Indico? I don't know. He
just equally claims your claims your on the juice man.

(01:45:07):
I just said he's Jack. I didn't say he was juice,
not me. I think it's all match your own. Listen,
I'm telling you this much. I hope Johnash your proclamation
is accurate because I want to see Jason Button naked
on the corner and on the side of Lectural Hotel
with your Twitter hand. Come on, gas, you never want
to see another man naked Ston plays for everything. Jake,

(01:45:27):
here we go. Alright, alright, guys, Now, normally you know
this segment where it's gas God's gonna have three very
hot takes to defend. But because we have a very
special edition of the Odd Couple, each one of you
guys is getting to turn in the hot seat. This
is the first Devil ever three way match, all right,
triple threat match in the hot seat. So let's get started.

(01:45:49):
David gask On, the man of the Hour, has a
very hot sports taker. He says that if Aaron Rodgers
does not win another Super Bowl in his career, he
cannot possibly be better then Brett Farve, Dave, you got
thirty seconds today your case, Roberts, thank you very much,
and I'll start this thing off, which is the numbers
you look at. Brett Fabre's played twenty seasons in the
National Football League. Aaron Rodgers is hot on his heels,

(01:46:12):
but he has one Super Bowl appearance in his back
pocket that he won, and that's it. Brett Farr has
actually been a two Super Bowls. He won one, one
lost one of the Denver Broncos. So for all that
being said, in this game, day and age in a
quarterback driven league, wins count, especially the postseason. If Aaron
Rodgers does not even get to another Super Bowl, no
way you could put him above Brett Farve. No chance

(01:46:34):
in hell. Brett Farber's as good as he is. Aaron
Rodgers right there with him. But that's it. Yeah. Definitely
on the roys is David Gascunt, and it's affecting his
thinking in his logic here, Dave, it's all about how
high highs and low lows. The highs are equal. They've
both won one Super Bowl, all right, so they are
equal there, but who's had lower lows? Brett Farve was
bad certain times in Green Bay, really bad. Aaron Rodgers

(01:46:57):
didn't make the playoffs a year ago and still had
twenty five touchdowns in two interceptions, all right, and that
was on a team that was folding, that fired their
head coach, and the replacement head coach, Joe Effing Philbin
used two challenges in ninety seconds to start out a game.
So if we want to talk about resumes, we can
look at the Super bowls and I agree with you,
but the lows were much lower with Brett Farr might

(01:47:20):
take his perfet for Gali Jason McIntyre because he walks
around with like a maglight in his pocket, talking about
Trevor Lawrence, which Aaron Rodgers has a nine and seven
playoff record, Bret Farr thirteen eleven, but Bret Farr three
time pro bowler. He has also been in the Super
Bowl two different times. Aaron Rodgers, with all that town,
has always secured homeful advance one time in his courage

(01:47:40):
in the postseason Tom brand in the end Esis route
for him is through the AFC East. He has done it.
He's accomplished that. Playing two games you get to the
big dance. Aaron Rodgers has always done that once and
because that he doesn't have the easier row hold up,
What does the maglike mean? I don't even know what
that is. That a flash light? I means you're gifted? Okay, um, yeah,

(01:48:02):
it means it looks like you're you're sitting on snuffle
off against his shoulders to them. Now we're all good here.
How many how many MVPs for Brett Farve, I honestly
don't know. Three times? Okay, how many for Aaron Rodgers?
Three times? Okay, So just because they're equal there but
not equal in the super Bowl rings. That matters because

(01:48:24):
I would say the MVP is more important than super Bowl.
Super Bowl is a team effort. MVP's an individual. I
gotta go with Rogers, all right. Round one is in
the books a couple of Haymakers being thrown in that one.
David Gascoont obviously scripted his entire answer book credit credit

(01:48:44):
for doing research. Round one goes to day typical Robert Here,
a scumbag official here the family just for that joys.
You're going to the hot seat. Next round number I do.
Jonas knocks, for whatever reason, thinks it is acceptable for

(01:49:05):
a grown man to go out in the streets wearing
a button down with no undershirt. Absolutely, Jonas, you got
thirty seconds tell us why? Well, it's really easy if
you don't have to wear extra clothing. Why do you
wear extra clothing? Look, I want things painted on my body,
all right. If I'm wearing a V neck, I want
to step through the collar to put it on. You
want to know what I'm working with, I'll give you

(01:49:26):
just a taste, just a little bit of a tease.
You ever see Willie walk in the Chocolate Factory. The
best part of the movie was when they pulled back
the wrapper and you saw the golden ticket. You can
see my golden ticket anytime you want. Just look down
the front of my shirt. There's nothing on underneath except
for bear skin. Read them and then weep. You're the
same guy that prey goes to the beach with socks on,

(01:49:47):
wearing sandals. To right, Joe, just one. That's just one sock.
Dave hell to give me an exclamation our explanation on
how to dress himself plessy. You need an undershirt because
anytime during the day you're going to perspire like natural
men do. No one wants to see your sweatlogs or
with your armpits. No one wants to smell you at all. Plus,
anybody here that you do shave off women don't want

(01:50:09):
to see that. Cover your ass up. Do the appropriate thing,
be a gentleman, lock yourself up, open the package. If
your fiance wants to do so once, maybe every sixty days.
My back is drenched in sweat. I kill for sixty days.
Oh my gosh, I gotta agree with the fart man here,
no doubt about it. The undershirt is mandatory. I mean

(01:50:29):
you have to wear the undershirt. The sweat issue we've
covered Jonas, Do you really wear a pinky ring? That
is danger? It's a thumb ring. Oh my god, that's
a thumber. I sat next to this man for two
and a half hours. I did not know he had
a thumb ring on thumb ring. Jesus, that's what they
call me. Wow. Okay, all right, go ahead, Bob, don't worry.
Ten eight. That's a ten eight. Okay, Well, let me

(01:50:50):
just say that Jonas knocks might be the first guy
in the Hot Seat to not use his second round
that he normally gets for his rebuttal, and because of
that it was hard to win and score punches. Round
number two goes to gas on him back. This is
such a ps man, I didn't need a second round.
That was a ten eight. You know it might have
been a ten seven. He's fixing you for a golden
Sabrera because you're engaged with last year, just carrying carrying

(01:51:13):
jacint I hate Robert Kiera. He's a dirt bag. It
is the first ever triple threat match of the Hot
Seat the couple Fox Sports Radio. Last but not least,
Jason thought he could get away from this one, but no,
he's sliding into the hot seat fresh off vacation. A
lot of topless photos were taken there, but more importantly,

(01:51:33):
a lot of video has been taking of Jason McIntyre
a lot in the gym, working out, getting swollen by himself. So, Jason,
you got thirty seconds tell us why it's okay for
a grown man to post videos of himself? Okay at
the gym? Um? Well, So I was at FS one
one day talking to Charissa Thompson, who is not a

(01:51:54):
grown man. She's obviously one of a woman and very
good at her job. And she was telling me like,
uh yeah, my Instagram following. We were talking about it
and her posting videos of working out. She told me
increase her following, started to get her some free stuff
because you know, you've become an influencer. And I started
posting some gym stuff and what happens right out of
the gate booms some people start giving me new follows.

(01:52:16):
You start getting some free stuff. That's the only reason
I posted Jim stuff. I do. I think it's losery,
kind of nerdy. I'm a guy. I'm you know, over
twenty one, which is kind of lame, but why not,
I'm not gonna look this good forever gas man. Listen,
You're in the job to do one thing, and one
thing only that to get to work. And obviously you
disqualify yourself by mentioned Chris at Thompson. You know exactly

(01:52:38):
why guys follow Chris atops. But it's not because of
her personality or because of her intelligence. When you're talking
about social media, I bring two people to come to mind,
Miles Garrett with his workouts. You've seen them, and also
Jen Selter. If you want to go on Instagram and
take a look at anybody on a female side of things,
go look at that. If you want to be an influencer,

(01:52:58):
bring something unique to the team in a gym, not
just someone else looking at you are doing preach your
curt five. Yeah, let me let me tell you something here.
You can't bring a phone into the gym and use
it to take pictures. You want to listen to music,
that's fine. You want to let her rip whatever and
do cardio and pass the time, that's fine as well too.
But the second you start taking pictures, you turn into

(01:53:21):
one of those tools who pretends like there's some fitness model.
They've got the quote underneath saying anything worth having is
worth earning dot dot dot dot dot. You're a douchebag
if you bring the camera into the gym and you
start taking videos, cut the crap, go sweat, and then
look at yourself later on. Nobody wants to see your Harry.
I'm a total body of work, baby, body and mind.

(01:53:43):
I got the sports takes, I got vacation. I'm a
I'm well dressed, I work out. I am a renaissance man.
I still want to convey that on Instagram? Do you
really get free stuff? Yeah? All right, I'm I'm doing that. Then,
all right, come on, Okay, I had a way I
was going to score this one at that very last point.
Apparently the only one went smart enough to profit off
of this. Jason McIntyre's the winning victory. I'm undefeated in

(01:54:06):
the hot seat, baby, which means it's two to two.
The only loser though, Jonas Knox, Yeah, did not win one.
David gas Man, let's bringing some fun, mean saying real fire.
Hey what does this mean? Robert, Yeah, you know what
that means. Tell the tell the familiar. I said that
right here. Baby. All right, I don't know what's going on,
I'll tell I'll tell you. Durt Of the break, can't

(01:54:27):
say it on the air, all right, it is, thanks Dave,
we appreciate it. I'm sure he's got to go juice
up now. All right, it is the odd Couple here
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Up next here Jason McIntyre Jonas Knox on FSR. A
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(01:55:28):
on Fox Sports Radio. Well kind of he is Jason McIntyre.
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(01:55:50):
that I would hear to? Kinconara? Can I get a mohito?
This song is the equivalent to, um, what's the what's that? Dumb?
Saw him? Everybody sings a karaoke like that? No in
in Boston. It's like a Sweet Caroline. This is the
Latin version of Sweet Caroline? Am I wrong? Let's go

(01:56:12):
live to our Is it the Latin version of Sweet Caroline?
Inside of Robert? Here for the latest Robert. It might
actually be a journey. Don't stop believing. Okay, this is
a go to man, get you moving a little bit.
I don't know why are you watching this? So we
got TVs here in the studio Jonas, and they're showing
Vince Carter shredding some dunk contest. Yeah, Um, I gotta

(01:56:33):
be honest, man, I think Zach Levine, his compilation of
dunks that one year he wanted was better than anything
Vince Carter did. And another project, I'm sorry that Zach
Levine's space jamp. It was good. I was floored by
how nastal. I mean, it was unbelievab. I followed him
on Instagram just because of that dunk on and he

(01:56:55):
follows you because but here's okay, here is uh? Speaking
of the Slam Dunk contest, there's a sporting event that's
dead to me. And that sporting event is the Pro Bowl,
all right, And people might say, oh, well, it's because
they've got all the alternates, and well, first of all,
there's two reasons. One play it after the NFL season,
so the teams that were in the Super Bowl, if
they want to go, they can go. And two, go
to Orlando. Get the hell out of Orlando, Go back

(01:57:17):
to Honolulu, go back to our people. Fox Sports nine
ninety listening on the Great Island of Oahu. I was
at that stadium last year. Yeah, it's a little run down,
a little bit rusty, but you know what they serve
big way. If the second you walk in there, it's
a great place to go see a game, bring it
back to Hawaii. Enough with the Orlando crap. Save the
Pro Bowl for God's sakes. Otherwise it's dead to me.

(01:57:39):
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