August 27, 2019 • 34 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob discuss the possibility that the early retirements of Andrew Luck and Rob Gronkowski could become the start of a trend in the NFL, explain why an expanded NFL season would be a bad idea for the players, and debate whether or not Carli Lloyd should be allowed to kick during an NFL preseason game.
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Coup of
with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Let's do it all right?
Last week, Rob, the NFL world went into a tizzy
when it was announced that Rob Gronkowski would make a
big announcement this week, right, you know, obviously a lot
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of people were expecting him to come back, you know,
to the Patriots and joint time Brady again for another
run to the Super Bowl. Instead, his announcement, his big
announcement today was that he is going to promote players
being able to use CBD. That's cannabis medicinal cannabis arcane relief.
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Wait a minute, A lot of X players are I
mean a lot of them. I know a lot of
NBA players getting into that business. Well, because because it's
it's a big market, a lot of people in this
country smoke. I have never smoked. Chris ever, Uh, it
doesn't appeal to me. But a lot of people smoke.
I guess I'm with you. I've never smoked a cigarette
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in college. I did try, did you have to join?
A few times? I try. I think I did it
wrong because all it did was burn my throat. So
you didn't do it right, right? You know I did? Yeah,
I mean I did get I guess a little bit
of a high, but it burnt my throat. I'm a
fifty five year old black man. I've never done I've
never even put weed to my mouth. I'm just so
black man, it makes it U No, I'm just saying
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that qualified. But if I'm wrong, people were assumed when
we were coming up, it was called pot right, and
it was more prevalent among at least where I remember
white guys. Oh no, don't smoking pot right. I wasn't
this huge. I went to a white college, So I'm saying, yeah,
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we both did. And I mean I even just high school,
junior high I remember kids, white kids smoking pot and
you know they're not that. There weren't black kids that
did what they called reefer back then, but it was
more prevalent among white you in my experience, I'm not
and actually Survey's dude show now it's pretty much even.
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But um yeah, but I never I never did it.
But it's not because I wanted to be a goodie
good I just didn't. It didn't appeal to me. Like
I've never smoked a cigarette. I was just never interested
in that. Never. Yeah, it's uh, it's getting pretty big
obviously now. And and that was what Gronk wanted to announce,
But of course people were interested in what he had
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to say about football. With Andrew Luck stepping down at
age twenty nine, as Gronk did, he was twenty when
he stepped down. Here's what Gronk had to say. I
want to be clear to my fans. I needed to recover.
I was not in a good place. Football was bringing
me down and I didn't like it. And I was
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losing that joy in life, like the joy. I'm sorry
right now, but Dan, let me, oh, I really was,
and I was fighting through it. Did you cause that
if did you see? I saw it? He was. He
was about to cry, was on verge of tears, and
it just tells you how painful it was. Let me
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just say this, I know where you're gonna go and
I'm just gonna say something real brief and then you
you go where you want to go, and I'll respond.
You know, I didn't play football at the highest level, obviously,
I didn't even play in college. I played through high school.
I loved football is my favorite sport, more so than basketball.
I didn't know that, oh yeah, And I thought about
even walking though I was recruited, you know, small school's
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Division three to play football, but I thought about walking
on Division one. That's how much I loved it, like
Syracuse or something like that. But the older I got,
the more painful it became. I'm just talking about high
school football. And I was a running back early in
my high school career, and by the last two three games,
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two games of the season, I was basically ready for
it to be over as much as I loved it,
because it was just painful. And then you know, I
became a receiver, and it was just like, if I
could I would have played football in college at Division three,
if I could have just played in the games, but
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I didn't want to practice. Is what ate you up?
And you're just you know, it's painful. And again that's
at high school level. So imagine these guys, they went
through big time Division one football, then they're in the NFL.
I get what Gronk was saying. I mean, it is painful.
These guys are straight up modern day gladiators. And somebody
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who really hasn't played at that level, or maybe never
played football at any level, it's hard to understand just
how tough and physically grinding that sport is, no doubt
about it. But just to hear a guy who had
so much success. This is not a guy who played
on some bad team. Chris got his butt kicks. You know,
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lost a lot of games. He played at a high level.
They won a lot of champions you know, they won championships.
And this guy said football brought me down. Did you
hear it? Rob G? Can we play that one more time?
He said that football brought him down. Here we go. Listen.
I want to be clear to my fans. I needed
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to recover. I was not in a good place. Football
was bringing me down and I didn't like it. And
I was losing that joy in life, like the joy.
I'm sorry right now, but Dan, let mean I really
was and I was fighting through it. He was losing
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the joy in life. But when you're in pain, wake
up in the morning and you're physically in pain. That's
not even the talking about just whatever head trauma you
might suffer, but just the physical your legs, your arms.
He talked about he pulled a quad I think in
the Super Bowl and he was crying at night in
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the bed after they win the Super Bowl because he's
in pain. So I get it. Well, go ahead, because
I'm gonna say this. Let me. Let me just go
because I know you. Look, I don't think this means
that there's going to be a trend of guys retiring.
There's just two guys and they're both injured. Now, guys,
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if they're physically banged up, and yeah, they could get
out there and play, but they're really banged up and
in pain, then guys are gonna step down. And that's fine.
It's actually probably what they should do. Especially the money
in football now is so big that you can make
you know, millions, and then you can you don't have
to play a full but that's ten fifty. But you're
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making the argument on why this trend is more Probably No,
I'm about to tell you the truth because for every
Rob Grindkowski there's a Jason Witten. Jason Witten's coming back.
Jason Witten played sixteen years, fifteen years, and now he's
coming back. Jason Wage thirty seven to play. What do
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you think jas played till he was forty two? Tom Brady,
it's forty two and going strong. Wants to play at
least three more years. It's different individual. I'm telling you
you're gonna have more twenty now. You never had a
twenty nine year really. Jim Brown, Well, but he wasn't
making any money. That's why he quick he stopped. But
that's why Barry Sanders is another Van Johnson. I mean,
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I'm just saying like this isn't This is a few guys,
and there's always been a few guys. I think I
think you're missing the boat. I think guys make more
money now. I don't think guys are going to allow
themselves to put up with the pain, have their bodies
beat up, not be able to play with their kids,
or have to suffer. And I'm telling you you'll see
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more of it when guys realize and this is what
normally happens when you see big guys. It's like the
lebron thing. I always say this. He didn't started Chris,
and I'm talking about when they started resting players. He
didn't start it. So I'm not blaming it on him
because that was Popovitch, Okay, But when they started seeing
a player of Lebron's caliber taking time off during the season,
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they said, if Lebron can do, you follow the leader.
If Lebron can do it, then it must not be
the worst thing in the world. And I'm a good
player as well a star player. Other guys followed his lead.
They're now gonna look at something different. What I'm saying that,
I'm telling you they're gonna look a job. They're gonna
look and say, a twenty nine year old guy with
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sixty million dollars on the table on Andrew Luck. But
he still could have worked through with Chris. No, he
still could. I'm not saying you might not see where
if you were pointing to a Patrick Willis or somebody
like that who was healthy, then I give it to you.
But guys who are healthy aren't. And Groc he could
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say he feels fine. Now, Groc was always banged up.
He missed twenty nine games over his last seven years.
And I can point to a Larry Fitzgerald. Why is
Larry Fitzgerald still playing? He's a horrible team. No, he's
very smart. You know his dad, his dad as a sportswriter.
Larry Fitzgerald's very intelligent. He's got a lot of other interests.
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But he loves football, you know it, Robert. Every field
of endeavor, those including sports writing, there are people that
love it and wouldn't do it for free. And they're
also and they like it. They're also because they get
the money, they're gonna step away. It's the same thing
in pros. But they're also those people who just don't
identify with anything else, and that's why they hang around
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the press box till let's seventy five, even though they
don't work for anybody. All I'm saying is I think
that these things, when you start to hear this, people
will reevaluate and wonder. We've already seen a drop in
kids playing football people with the CTE, You're going to
start to see where people are gonna say, you know what,
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I made enough money, I'm good. I don't want to
put and they might not be in a condition. And
I'll give you that, Chris, that Andrew luck is in
which is more diet or even but they might say
to themselves, I don't want to get to that place.
This is not I don't feel it the same way
that I used to, and I don't want to be
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I don't want to. I'd rather get out early than
too late. And I think you'll see more of it.
That's that's all we'll see. I mean, like I said,
I think Andrew Luck is a different and and and
so it's grunk. They're different to me because their bodies
were banged up and some people and this look those
two Rewarriors, we know it. Two of the best you
know in the league at their position, and big and
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strong guys, but different people's bodies. Some of its genetic.
You know, you can some people's body. Everybody's body can't
go through an eighty two game NBA season. Everybody's body
can't go through multiple years of sixteen game NFL seasons.
And somebody, some guys can a Chris Carter, a Jerry Rice,
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a Tim Brown. We for every guy like Gronk or
Andrew Luck, we can get a guy who's either playing
now or retired to come on and say I love it.
I think the more Damien Woody today our former colleague.
He was like, I'll play eighteen games. I love it.
I mean there are guys that you love it more
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than others, and guys that whose bodies, whose physical makeup
up can take it whereas other guys can. I think
that there will be because of all that people see
and all the more the more knowledge we have and
all the other things. I just think that there's a
better chance that you're gonna start seeing more players bow
out earlier. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeart Radio app. Big story in the NFL
has been the owners insistence on any time the collective
bargaining agreement comes up, and we know they're gonna they're
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they're in talks now. They're trying to, you know, avoid
work stoppage in a couple of years. Anytime it comes up,
the owners seem to bring up that they want an
eighteen games season. Now the players do want a bigger chunk,
a bigger piece of the pie. NFL players get about
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forty seven percent of the league's revenue. Which I think
is too low, and I think you need to understand too,
there are certain things that the players don't get and
I think that's where when you look at that number, said,
well that sounds fair forty seven percent, don't you think
they should get at least fifty at least? But also
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the luxury sweets, Chris, the highest seats aren't included in
that package. Concession and parking, not including that definite because
I know they're always well I just know from the
NBA covering their lockouts that is always a battle and
that what is going to be, you know, and why
almost working with different books, That's what I'm saying, you know,
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like the players don't saying this is all basketball related income.
The owners are saying no, and it's almost like they're
hiding jump right, That's what I'm saying, Like that, why
are the sweets the highest priced tickets on the world
right that you can't get a piece of I mean
that the every everything that's revenue should be included, every question.
But here's the deal. So the owners are like, look,
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we're not even really trying to now this is cording
the sources. Uh Dan Graziano of ESPN wrote this. They're like,
we're not even trying to hear about giving you, you know,
a bigger piece of the pie unless you're ready to
discuss eighteen games. And my point is this, In fact,
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I'm gonna read this quote by Arthur Blank, the owner
of the Atlanta Falcons before I to you, Skips were
what does he say? Unleash, unleash? All right, here's Arthur Blank.
He told this to Von McClure. You probably know Von
good writer. Now, of course, here is what Arthur Blank
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said in terms of expanding the length of the season,
whether it be with additional playoff games or regular season games,
and whether it would be to seventeen or eighteen. I
certainly would be in favor of expansion, probably initially the
seventeen games to see how that works. Then have eighteen.
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But and the butt is the biggest caveat here. Blank says,
if we do that, we have to make sure that
our first priority, which is players safety in health, is
being kept in the forefront of that discussion. How Chris,
I mean, well, stop it. They don't go together. Eighteen games,
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adding two regular season games or one playoff game does
not mesh with player safety in no way shape or form.
They talked about, well, you could add players, you could
add guys on the practice squad. That defeats the purpose
for the players because if you're add players, they're taking
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some of my money, right, so don't. It's like saying, yeah,
I'm I'm having an affair with it. I want to
have an affair with a guy's wife, but I really
want to make sure his feelings aren't hurt. Ye, what
they're mutually exclusive. You're not talking about my marriage, are you? No? No,
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But you know what I'm saying, Like, eighteen games is
putting the players in greater danger. And you just saw
one of the best players in the NFL, was one
of the best quarterback prospects we've ever seen, retire because
his body is beat up at the greatest at twenty nine,
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one of the greatest tight ends we've ever seen, retire
because his body is banged up. And now you want
to play two more games. Your first priority is not
the player's health and safety. Your first priority is money. Period.
I can't say it any better than you just said it.
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I'm with you here. We're gonna be in lockstep because
they don't go together. They have no Chris the only
the only reason they want eighteen games is they can
charge the network more money. You know, preseason games a
local TV, right, there's no money there. People don't even
want to go to a preseason game. Chris, When when
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when I when the barbershop in Detroit that season tickets
we couldn't give away to the preseason games. Seriously, they're horrible.
Can watch that? It really just as a waste. And
I get it. They want to make more money and
they should understand that you're only putting people at risk.
Remember the NFL used to be twelve games. It used
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to be twelve, and then it went to fourteen, fourteen
and then sixteen. It used to be twelve. That's all
it were. It is, It is utterly ridiculous. And if
you said it, this is greed in the high sad
and for all the listeners out there, remember this, remember this.
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We are talking about billionaires. Billionaires. They don't need a
dime from the NFL. Right, That's why they always win
the work stoppages because they're wealthy and the players are
written and the play right, there's a big difference between
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the two. They made their money elsewhere and the owning
in the NFL team is a hobby. It's about pride,
it's about bragging, bragging rights. They don't need the money,
So why in the world are they pushing for eighteen games?
I get it. They want to cut the preseason by
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two games, then cut it, then cut just cut it in,
play two preseason and then play sixteen games, and you
know what, do it that way. I'm with you. I
just think this is ridiculous. And the Players Union better
not give in. They're better not for the veteran of
They're just they're watching their own players wrote down and
retiring and and saying that that their bodies and where
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they are in life. I mean, what you should stop
to say, maybe the bodies. Not we're pushing it at
sixteen games, Chris. We're putting them with now now the preseason.
They don't even want to play them. They don't want
to play, and only scrubs play. I shouldn't call them scrubs,
but you know what I mean. Yeah, the relatively speaking
stars aren't playing, and they don't want them to waste
their time and energy in a game that doesn't matter
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but potentially getting hurt. Not letting you practice hard, right,
you hardly can hit in practice. The starters don't play
in the preseason games for the most part, and now
you want to add two more regular season games. Adding
two more regular season games will take away the benefit
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of not hitting in practice. It'll take away the benefit
of not playing in the preseason because you're adding two
more games of where and tear and beat down in
your body. Here's the other thing, Rob, One of the
worst things in professional sports is when star players or
critical players are injured in the playoffs or for the playoffs, right,
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I mean, we hated that Kevin Durant wasn't in the
playoffs last year. We would rather than be a full
straight right when Clay Thompson went down, it was like,
come on, and this is this is terrible. That's terrible
for sports leagues and you are risking further injury. There's
a greater chance of an Aaron Rodgers, of a Tom Brady,
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of a Cam Newton or whoever it is, missing playoff
games if you extend the regular season to eighteen This
is this is unbelievable. I mean, you never want to
excuse greed, but if these guys weren't already filthy rich,
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filthy wealthy, you know, what I mean, Like, if they
weren't just swimming in money, maybe you could excuse it.
But that's that's all this is. It's a straight up
money grab. There's no reason the league makes eleven billion.
Is that not enough? And Chris, the only reason that
they want more games is to be able to charge
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their networks for two more games. That's all. That's what
it is. It's nothing else. Fans are on clamor. I
haven't heard one fan said they wish they were more games,
and and and you know what, everybody, Oh, they can't
get enough football. Didn't we just see that football league
just go out? You know, I don't even remember the
name of it now, the Alliance of Football or American
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Football or whatever. But no, people don't know you stop.
They want their RNFL. They want it the way it is.
They want to take a break when the season's over, Chris,
and then be able to yearn for it. They don't
want It's like it's like I always say, you love
ice cream until you start working at the ice cream factory,
right then all of a sudden, you don't want it.
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I'm even with you, And look, it wouldn't be the
worst thing in the world. To me, But I like
it the way it is. I do. You don't need
even another playoff game. I'm you know what they're talking
about adding an extra team to the playoffs have been great.
I'm good with the playoffs. I mean, like I said,
it wouldn't kill me if they had added a team
in each conference. But you don't need to. You don't
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need to, Like you said, it's been great. You already
have seasons when the wild card, a team that win
ten and six wins the super Bowl. Do you want
the seventh seed maybe winning the super Bowl? You know so,
I don't. It's fine the way it is. This is
greed on the part of the owners, and I'm with you.
But the players they want money and they may. I
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wouldn't be surprised if they gave in, but I hope,
like you, that they can show some fortitude and hold
out because this is not good for them. Well you
know already that league, that union I can't trust, and
I think they're the worst union it is for any
I mean, they're just the worst. They there's no denying it.
They've been bent over so many times over the barrel
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and taking advantage off they just have been They have power, Chris, together,
they do it. They're not prepared, they're not ready for
a battle. The only reason why the Baseball Union is
the strongest. They have award chest filled with money. That's
what you need, Chris, in order to take on the billionaires. Yeah,
I agree with you, and I hope they're ready to fight.
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I doubt they're ready to fight. And I look, I
get it. The average guy plays three four and a
half years, right, and you're not making that guy who's
playing three or four years not making a ton of money.
So I get it. So he didn't want to give
up any of it. But still, but this, don't go
to eighteen games. Do not. It is not good for you.
We're gonna see more injuries, We're gonna see more big
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names out of the playoffs, and the fans, unless they disagree,
we're gonna as always give them a chance to weigh in.
Rob But I'm telling you you fans need to make
your voices hurt. You don't want eighteen Maybe they want eighteen.
People do love football. We all love football. I'm just
saying my thing is you're gonna have some playoffs where
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you don't have your stars available because more guys are
gonna get hurt in the regular season, and I don't.
I would rather not. I'd rather have stars and less
games with you. I'd rather have and I don't. I'm
not advocating this, but I'd rather have fourteen games if
the stars were gonna be healthy, then sixteen when they're
not healthy. And we know there's always a chance of
getting hurt in game one compared to game eighteen. I
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get it. But the more times you're out there, the
more chances you open yourself up that you could get injured.
That's just five, no doubt about it. Where do you
guys stand? Eight seven, seven? Curious on this one where
I think some people may want more games. And we
had Mike Freeman on from Bleacher Report and I said
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it before him, but he said it. He reiterated it.
People don't understand the brutality of this game. Rob. I
know you've been on sidelines obviously. I've covered mainly NBA.
A couple of years ago, when I was still at
the other network, they took us to a football game
and we got to stand on the sidelines. It was
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the Jets and the Bears. It was a Monday night game,
and that was my first time on an NFL sideline
during the game, and again I played football in high school.
Loved it. I was about that, the speed, and it
was scary. Television television destroyer, no question. It sanitizes it
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even in the warm ups watching the defensive backs, how
big and fast the players were, how cut up. The
defensive backs were obviously not huge, but the speed at
which they were moving in their drills, and then to
see the big guys and the kickoffs the hincoff looked
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like war. And you hear the hits. I mean it,
like Mike Freeman said, it's like a bunch of car crashes.
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with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific. Carly Lloyd, the soccer player, great
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soccer player female. Did you see the video of her
kicking a fifty five yard field goal? Yes? Well, apparently
a few NFL teams have reached out to her about
kicking for them in a preseason game. I could see it,
and she may actually do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, Rob, Gi,
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She's not gonna do it. Rob. I thought she thought
there was talk she might do it. This so she
has a conflict. Yeah, she says she was reportedly considering it,
but the fact that it uh is at the same
time as an international friendly she has for soccer, she
kid would probably be the reason why she wouldn't do it.
I would love to see that. Let me just say, Chris,
here we go. Let me just say something. And I'm
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a man with two daughters. Here we go the house
with three women. So I'm not chouving this thick or anything. Oh,
here we go. Would you say, Chris barefoot Pregnanta. Look,
this has nothing to do with Carly Lloyd being a female.
You ust to see Chris, get that dump on am
telling you I'm a woman. This is a gimmick. Teams
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asking her to kick in a preseason game is a gimmick.
Want ratings, They want buzz. Here's why it's a gimmick
because anybody that watched that video of her kicking a
fifty five yard field goal, it was nice. Fine, I mean,
I'm not gonna take that away from her, but if
you really look at it, anybody that sits here, and
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I know these football executives know this, the ones that
called her and all that and come come kick for us.
They know this. She was five yards back when she
started moving toward kicking that ball. And if you watch
NFL kickers, they are three yards back all right, because
she kept making adjustment of two yards you can't. It's
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a big difference. Watch the NFL kickers when they kick off.
They could get field goals from seventy five eighty yards
when they kick off. Let me finish, finish, because I'm serious,
I'm not I'm not just not sexist or anything. I'm
just saying the fact that she had a five yard
running start or five yards start kick the field goal
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without padding on equipment, on without a pass rush or
a rush does not Nobody would think that's going to
correlate to being able to kick a field goal in
a game with rushers any equipment with a three yard start.
Like I said, if you watch kickers on kickoffs, they
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can put it through the uprights from the thirty five
to other thirty five yard line when they have several
yards back and they have that type of start, and
that's what she had, and you can't make the adjustment
because the reason they only go from three yards is
because the rushers are coming too quickly. But so that's
my point, like you can't and if you want to
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give a female a shot, a real shot. There's a
female kicker in Division two, Adams state. I forgot her name,
but give her a shot. If you really want to
give a female and be fair about it. It's like
the kind of Leza rights thing. What was she gonna
become a head coach? Are we talking about that? I mean,
that's what I'm saying. Give a female who really is
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in the football, not just a fan, but works in
the game. If you want to give somebody a chance,
do it that way. Don't take make it a gimmick.
I'm actually standing up for women. Don't take college soccer football.
I mean, so what's the difference clicks no clickers between
soccer and football? And we just say. Here's my point, though,
is what are you against giving her a shot if
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she can't make it. I'm just saying, gimmick if she
gets a block? What if she's good? You know how
many bad NFL kickers there are who the Bears just
lost the playoffs. Ain't the playoffs because the guy couldn't
kick a chip shot? Would it matter most? I'm saying
she shouldn't go along with the gimmick. Why if she's not,
why don't be used as a as a gimmick as
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a tool. But what if she's good enough and she
can make it, Chris, then let's see her kick from
a three yard start, then a five yard starts right
Russian before we throw her in there. But what it's
like saying somebody went out there and hit a three pointer. Oh,
let's put him in the NBA. No, but but no,
but that could happen. No, once she gets on the
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team and she practiced, you make the team. You don't
be giving a spot. Yes you do. They No, you
have to earn it. They're giving her a trialt. They
give people tryouts all the time. Because you don't give
her a try out. You saying, once she's on the team, yeah,
give her a try out. What you can try out.
But we didn't see a try We saw an exhibition
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that has nothing to do with a football game. I'm
trying to protect her. Don't be used as a gimmick
as a pride. Now you only have to create buzz.
Do you only match on carly side? The only thing
I'll say, throw her out there to the wolves. Put
her out there. But the only thing is that she
can't have. If she can't have the placeholder using a
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oven bit, you know what I mean to hold a
football that will not be allowed. Look at you and
you got the nerve that called me talk about me,
brought them barefoot and pregnant and all that. No, I'm
I'm all in. I'm all in on giving people opportunities.
If she's no good, you cut her, let her get
a shot at it, Chris, What if she can't make
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the field goal or you get a blot, so we
should just put her on the team. No, I mean
to try out first, and then if she can make
a couple and try out, give her a chance to
kick in a real game under pressure with the rush. Chris,
Let's put her this first. Let's practice. So you're not
against her going to practice in the trial. I was
not not she could earn it, but I don't. I don't,
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I don't. I think there are other people that would
deserve it before her. But if she could earn it,
then yeah, I'd be all for it. Okay, that's different thing.
Listen to what keenan Allen. I wasn't. It wasn't about
her being a woman. It was about looking at that
video and saying, that's got nothing to do with real football,
even just kicking the football, because she was he had
a giant start that normal kickers don't get, and they
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don't get it because there's a pass rush. Here's what
Keenan Allen, the wide receiver said, sounds sweet, you know,
and about her kicking for a team until somebody blocks
the kick and all of a sudden she's on defense.
It would be like the stampede scene in the Lion
King movie. I think that that you got a boot though.
But but you know what, I'll say this, we how
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many of the other kicks when they have in that situation, Chris,
they get run old frown, they poured out And no,
I saw a kicker who was that kicker? Was he
for the Browns? He drilled somebody on the kim with
the but the other was that? But most of the
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kickers of a week and stop and then no, these
guys are studs. These guys were athletes at a certain level,
athletes at the pro level, but in high school a
lot of them were actually pretty decent athletes. I don't
have a woman doesn't need to be out there when
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it gets rough. I mean there's a reason. You know,
there's a there's a difference. Nah, she don't need to
be out there when he gets rough. You sound like
when Billy gen King wanted to play tennis. That's tennis
and there's a difference. Nah, you know that. What was
his name, Bobby Riggs? Bobby he was old, right, Bobby
Riggs and Billy jen King. Didn't she beat she beat it.
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He was old. Better get out there with Arthur ashe
Jimmy Ks or something and get better and then you
would say that you made a better tennis way. Serena
said it. Serena said she couldn't beat any in the
top ranked man. She goes and she could beat you.
She could stop me.
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Coup of
with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Let's do it all right?
Last week, Rob, the NFL world went into a tizzy
when it was announced that Rob Gronkowski would make a
big announcement this week, right, you know, obviously a lot
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of people were expecting him to come back, you know,
to the Patriots and joint time Brady again for another
run to the Super Bowl. Instead, his announcement, his big
announcement today was that he is going to promote players
being able to use CBD. That's cannabis medicinal cannabis arcane relief.
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Wait a minute, A lot of X players are I
mean a lot of them. I know a lot of
NBA players getting into that business. Well, because because it's
it's a big market, a lot of people in this
country smoke. I have never smoked. Chris ever, Uh, it
doesn't appeal to me. But a lot of people smoke.
I guess I'm with you. I've never smoked a cigarette
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in college. I did try, did you have to join?
A few times? I try. I think I did it
wrong because all it did was burn my throat. So
you didn't do it right, right? You know I did? Yeah,
I mean I did get I guess a little bit
of a high, but it burnt my throat. I'm a
fifty five year old black man. I've never done I've
never even put weed to my mouth. I'm just so
black man, it makes it U No, I'm just saying
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that qualified. But if I'm wrong, people were assumed when
we were coming up, it was called pot right, and
it was more prevalent among at least where I remember
white guys. Oh no, don't smoking pot right. I wasn't
this huge. I went to a white college, So I'm saying, yeah,
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we both did. And I mean I even just high school,
junior high I remember kids, white kids smoking pot and
you know they're not that. There weren't black kids that
did what they called reefer back then, but it was
more prevalent among white you in my experience, I'm not
and actually Survey's dude show now it's pretty much even.
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But um yeah, but I never I never did it.
But it's not because I wanted to be a goodie
good I just didn't. It didn't appeal to me. Like
I've never smoked a cigarette. I was just never interested
in that. Never. Yeah, it's uh, it's getting pretty big
obviously now. And and that was what Gronk wanted to announce,
But of course people were interested in what he had
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to say about football. With Andrew Luck stepping down at
age twenty nine, as Gronk did, he was twenty when
he stepped down. Here's what Gronk had to say. I
want to be clear to my fans. I needed to recover.
I was not in a good place. Football was bringing
me down and I didn't like it. And I was
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losing that joy in life, like the joy. I'm sorry
right now, but Dan, let me, oh, I really was,
and I was fighting through it. Did you cause that
if did you see? I saw it? He was. He
was about to cry, was on verge of tears, and
it just tells you how painful it was. Let me
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just say this, I know where you're gonna go and
I'm just gonna say something real brief and then you
you go where you want to go, and I'll respond.
You know, I didn't play football at the highest level, obviously,
I didn't even play in college. I played through high school.
I loved football is my favorite sport, more so than basketball.
I didn't know that, oh yeah, And I thought about
even walking though I was recruited, you know, small school's
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Division three to play football, but I thought about walking
on Division one. That's how much I loved it, like
Syracuse or something like that. But the older I got,
the more painful it became. I'm just talking about high
school football. And I was a running back early in
my high school career, and by the last two three games,
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two games of the season, I was basically ready for
it to be over as much as I loved it,
because it was just painful. And then you know, I
became a receiver, and it was just like, if I
could I would have played football in college at Division three,
if I could have just played in the games, but
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I didn't want to practice. Is what ate you up?
And you're just you know, it's painful. And again that's
at high school level. So imagine these guys, they went
through big time Division one football, then they're in the NFL.
I get what Gronk was saying. I mean, it is painful.
These guys are straight up modern day gladiators. And somebody
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who really hasn't played at that level, or maybe never
played football at any level, it's hard to understand just
how tough and physically grinding that sport is, no doubt
about it. But just to hear a guy who had
so much success. This is not a guy who played
on some bad team. Chris got his butt kicks. You know,
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lost a lot of games. He played at a high level.
They won a lot of champions you know, they won championships.
And this guy said football brought me down. Did you
hear it? Rob G? Can we play that one more time?
He said that football brought him down. Here we go. Listen.
I want to be clear to my fans. I needed
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to recover. I was not in a good place. Football
was bringing me down and I didn't like it. And
I was losing that joy in life, like the joy.
I'm sorry right now, but Dan, let mean I really
was and I was fighting through it. He was losing
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the joy in life. But when you're in pain, wake
up in the morning and you're physically in pain. That's
not even the talking about just whatever head trauma you
might suffer, but just the physical your legs, your arms.
He talked about he pulled a quad I think in
the Super Bowl and he was crying at night in
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the bed after they win the Super Bowl because he's
in pain. So I get it. Well, go ahead, because
I'm gonna say this. Let me. Let me just go
because I know you. Look, I don't think this means
that there's going to be a trend of guys retiring.
There's just two guys and they're both injured. Now, guys,
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if they're physically banged up, and yeah, they could get
out there and play, but they're really banged up and
in pain, then guys are gonna step down. And that's fine.
It's actually probably what they should do. Especially the money
in football now is so big that you can make
you know, millions, and then you can you don't have
to play a full but that's ten fifty. But you're
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making the argument on why this trend is more Probably No,
I'm about to tell you the truth because for every
Rob Grindkowski there's a Jason Witten. Jason Witten's coming back.
Jason Witten played sixteen years, fifteen years, and now he's
coming back. Jason Wage thirty seven to play. What do
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you think jas played till he was forty two? Tom Brady,
it's forty two and going strong. Wants to play at
least three more years. It's different individual. I'm telling you
you're gonna have more twenty now. You never had a
twenty nine year really. Jim Brown, Well, but he wasn't
making any money. That's why he quick he stopped. But
that's why Barry Sanders is another Van Johnson. I mean,
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I'm just saying like this isn't This is a few guys,
and there's always been a few guys. I think I
think you're missing the boat. I think guys make more
money now. I don't think guys are going to allow
themselves to put up with the pain, have their bodies
beat up, not be able to play with their kids,
or have to suffer. And I'm telling you you'll see
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more of it when guys realize and this is what
normally happens when you see big guys. It's like the
lebron thing. I always say this. He didn't started Chris,
and I'm talking about when they started resting players. He
didn't start it. So I'm not blaming it on him
because that was Popovitch, Okay, But when they started seeing
a player of Lebron's caliber taking time off during the season,
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they said, if Lebron can do, you follow the leader.
If Lebron can do it, then it must not be
the worst thing in the world. And I'm a good
player as well a star player. Other guys followed his lead.
They're now gonna look at something different. What I'm saying that,
I'm telling you they're gonna look a job. They're gonna
look and say, a twenty nine year old guy with
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sixty million dollars on the table on Andrew Luck. But
he still could have worked through with Chris. No, he
still could. I'm not saying you might not see where
if you were pointing to a Patrick Willis or somebody
like that who was healthy, then I give it to you.
But guys who are healthy aren't. And Groc he could
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say he feels fine. Now, Groc was always banged up.
He missed twenty nine games over his last seven years.
And I can point to a Larry Fitzgerald. Why is
Larry Fitzgerald still playing? He's a horrible team. No, he's
very smart. You know his dad, his dad as a sportswriter.
Larry Fitzgerald's very intelligent. He's got a lot of other interests.
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But he loves football, you know it, Robert. Every field
of endeavor, those including sports writing, there are people that
love it and wouldn't do it for free. And they're
also and they like it. They're also because they get
the money, they're gonna step away. It's the same thing
in pros. But they're also those people who just don't
identify with anything else, and that's why they hang around
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the press box till let's seventy five, even though they
don't work for anybody. All I'm saying is I think
that these things, when you start to hear this, people
will reevaluate and wonder. We've already seen a drop in
kids playing football people with the CTE, You're going to
start to see where people are gonna say, you know what,
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I made enough money, I'm good. I don't want to
put and they might not be in a condition. And
I'll give you that, Chris, that Andrew luck is in
which is more diet or even but they might say
to themselves, I don't want to get to that place.
This is not I don't feel it the same way
that I used to, and I don't want to be
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I don't want to. I'd rather get out early than
too late. And I think you'll see more of it.
That's that's all we'll see. I mean, like I said,
I think Andrew Luck is a different and and and
so it's grunk. They're different to me because their bodies
were banged up and some people and this look those
two Rewarriors, we know it. Two of the best you
know in the league at their position, and big and
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strong guys, but different people's bodies. Some of its genetic.
You know, you can some people's body. Everybody's body can't
go through an eighty two game NBA season. Everybody's body
can't go through multiple years of sixteen game NFL seasons.
And somebody, some guys can a Chris Carter, a Jerry Rice,
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a Tim Brown. We for every guy like Gronk or
Andrew Luck, we can get a guy who's either playing
now or retired to come on and say I love it.
I think the more Damien Woody today our former colleague.
He was like, I'll play eighteen games. I love it.
I mean there are guys that you love it more
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than others, and guys that whose bodies, whose physical makeup
up can take it whereas other guys can. I think
that there will be because of all that people see
and all the more the more knowledge we have and
all the other things. I just think that there's a
better chance that you're gonna start seeing more players bow
out earlier. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeart Radio app. Big story in the NFL
has been the owners insistence on any time the collective
bargaining agreement comes up, and we know they're gonna they're
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they're in talks now. They're trying to, you know, avoid
work stoppage in a couple of years. Anytime it comes up,
the owners seem to bring up that they want an
eighteen games season. Now the players do want a bigger chunk,
a bigger piece of the pie. NFL players get about
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forty seven percent of the league's revenue. Which I think
is too low, and I think you need to understand too,
there are certain things that the players don't get and
I think that's where when you look at that number, said,
well that sounds fair forty seven percent, don't you think
they should get at least fifty at least? But also
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the luxury sweets, Chris, the highest seats aren't included in
that package. Concession and parking, not including that definite because
I know they're always well I just know from the
NBA covering their lockouts that is always a battle and
that what is going to be, you know, and why
almost working with different books, That's what I'm saying, you know,
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like the players don't saying this is all basketball related income.
The owners are saying no, and it's almost like they're
hiding jump right, That's what I'm saying, Like that, why
are the sweets the highest priced tickets on the world
right that you can't get a piece of I mean
that the every everything that's revenue should be included, every question.
But here's the deal. So the owners are like, look,
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we're not even really trying to now this is cording
the sources. Uh Dan Graziano of ESPN wrote this. They're like,
we're not even trying to hear about giving you, you know,
a bigger piece of the pie unless you're ready to
discuss eighteen games. And my point is this, In fact,
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I'm gonna read this quote by Arthur Blank, the owner
of the Atlanta Falcons before I to you, Skips were
what does he say? Unleash, unleash? All right, here's Arthur Blank.
He told this to Von McClure. You probably know Von
good writer. Now, of course, here is what Arthur Blank
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said in terms of expanding the length of the season,
whether it be with additional playoff games or regular season games,
and whether it would be to seventeen or eighteen. I
certainly would be in favor of expansion, probably initially the
seventeen games to see how that works. Then have eighteen.
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But and the butt is the biggest caveat here. Blank says,
if we do that, we have to make sure that
our first priority, which is players safety in health, is
being kept in the forefront of that discussion. How Chris,
I mean, well, stop it. They don't go together. Eighteen games,
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adding two regular season games or one playoff game does
not mesh with player safety in no way shape or form.
They talked about, well, you could add players, you could
add guys on the practice squad. That defeats the purpose
for the players because if you're add players, they're taking
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some of my money, right, so don't. It's like saying, yeah,
I'm I'm having an affair with it. I want to
have an affair with a guy's wife, but I really
want to make sure his feelings aren't hurt. Ye, what
they're mutually exclusive. You're not talking about my marriage, are you? No? No,
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But you know what I'm saying, Like, eighteen games is
putting the players in greater danger. And you just saw
one of the best players in the NFL, was one
of the best quarterback prospects we've ever seen, retire because
his body is beat up at the greatest at twenty nine,
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one of the greatest tight ends we've ever seen, retire
because his body is banged up. And now you want
to play two more games. Your first priority is not
the player's health and safety. Your first priority is money. Period.
I can't say it any better than you just said it.
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I'm with you here. We're gonna be in lockstep because
they don't go together. They have no Chris the only
the only reason they want eighteen games is they can
charge the network more money. You know, preseason games a
local TV, right, there's no money there. People don't even
want to go to a preseason game. Chris, When when
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when I when the barbershop in Detroit that season tickets
we couldn't give away to the preseason games. Seriously, they're horrible.
Can watch that? It really just as a waste. And
I get it. They want to make more money and
they should understand that you're only putting people at risk.
Remember the NFL used to be twelve games. It used
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to be twelve, and then it went to fourteen, fourteen
and then sixteen. It used to be twelve. That's all
it were. It is, It is utterly ridiculous. And if
you said it, this is greed in the high sad
and for all the listeners out there, remember this, remember this.
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We are talking about billionaires. Billionaires. They don't need a
dime from the NFL. Right, That's why they always win
the work stoppages because they're wealthy and the players are
written and the play right, there's a big difference between
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the two. They made their money elsewhere and the owning
in the NFL team is a hobby. It's about pride,
it's about bragging, bragging rights. They don't need the money,
So why in the world are they pushing for eighteen games?
I get it. They want to cut the preseason by
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two games, then cut it, then cut just cut it in,
play two preseason and then play sixteen games, and you
know what, do it that way. I'm with you. I
just think this is ridiculous. And the Players Union better
not give in. They're better not for the veteran of
They're just they're watching their own players wrote down and
retiring and and saying that that their bodies and where
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they are in life. I mean, what you should stop
to say, maybe the bodies. Not we're pushing it at
sixteen games, Chris. We're putting them with now now the preseason.
They don't even want to play them. They don't want
to play, and only scrubs play. I shouldn't call them scrubs,
but you know what I mean. Yeah, the relatively speaking
stars aren't playing, and they don't want them to waste
their time and energy in a game that doesn't matter
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but potentially getting hurt. Not letting you practice hard, right,
you hardly can hit in practice. The starters don't play
in the preseason games for the most part, and now
you want to add two more regular season games. Adding
two more regular season games will take away the benefit
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of not hitting in practice. It'll take away the benefit
of not playing in the preseason because you're adding two
more games of where and tear and beat down in
your body. Here's the other thing, Rob, One of the
worst things in professional sports is when star players or
critical players are injured in the playoffs or for the playoffs, right,
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I mean, we hated that Kevin Durant wasn't in the
playoffs last year. We would rather than be a full
straight right when Clay Thompson went down, it was like,
come on, and this is this is terrible. That's terrible
for sports leagues and you are risking further injury. There's
a greater chance of an Aaron Rodgers, of a Tom Brady,
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of a Cam Newton or whoever it is, missing playoff
games if you extend the regular season to eighteen This
is this is unbelievable. I mean, you never want to
excuse greed, but if these guys weren't already filthy rich,
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filthy wealthy, you know, what I mean, Like, if they
weren't just swimming in money, maybe you could excuse it.
But that's that's all this is. It's a straight up
money grab. There's no reason the league makes eleven billion.
Is that not enough? And Chris, the only reason that
they want more games is to be able to charge
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their networks for two more games. That's all. That's what
it is. It's nothing else. Fans are on clamor. I
haven't heard one fan said they wish they were more games,
and and and you know what, everybody, Oh, they can't
get enough football. Didn't we just see that football league
just go out? You know, I don't even remember the
name of it now, the Alliance of Football or American
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Football or whatever. But no, people don't know you stop.
They want their RNFL. They want it the way it is.
They want to take a break when the season's over, Chris,
and then be able to yearn for it. They don't
want It's like it's like I always say, you love
ice cream until you start working at the ice cream factory,
right then all of a sudden, you don't want it.
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I'm even with you, And look, it wouldn't be the
worst thing in the world. To me, But I like
it the way it is. I do. You don't need
even another playoff game. I'm you know what they're talking
about adding an extra team to the playoffs have been great.
I'm good with the playoffs. I mean, like I said,
it wouldn't kill me if they had added a team
in each conference. But you don't need to. You don't
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need to, Like you said, it's been great. You already
have seasons when the wild card, a team that win
ten and six wins the super Bowl. Do you want
the seventh seed maybe winning the super Bowl? You know so,
I don't. It's fine the way it is. This is
greed on the part of the owners, and I'm with you.
But the players they want money and they may. I
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wouldn't be surprised if they gave in, but I hope,
like you, that they can show some fortitude and hold
out because this is not good for them. Well you
know already that league, that union I can't trust, and
I think they're the worst union it is for any
I mean, they're just the worst. They there's no denying it.
They've been bent over so many times over the barrel
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and taking advantage off they just have been They have power, Chris, together,
they do it. They're not prepared, they're not ready for
a battle. The only reason why the Baseball Union is
the strongest. They have award chest filled with money. That's
what you need, Chris, in order to take on the billionaires. Yeah,
I agree with you, and I hope they're ready to fight.
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I doubt they're ready to fight. And I look, I
get it. The average guy plays three four and a
half years, right, and you're not making that guy who's
playing three or four years not making a ton of money.
So I get it. So he didn't want to give
up any of it. But still, but this, don't go
to eighteen games. Do not. It is not good for you.
We're gonna see more injuries, We're gonna see more big
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names out of the playoffs, and the fans, unless they disagree,
we're gonna as always give them a chance to weigh in.
Rob But I'm telling you you fans need to make
your voices hurt. You don't want eighteen Maybe they want eighteen.
People do love football. We all love football. I'm just
saying my thing is you're gonna have some playoffs where
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you don't have your stars available because more guys are
gonna get hurt in the regular season, and I don't.
I would rather not. I'd rather have stars and less
games with you. I'd rather have and I don't. I'm
not advocating this, but I'd rather have fourteen games if
the stars were gonna be healthy, then sixteen when they're
not healthy. And we know there's always a chance of
getting hurt in game one compared to game eighteen. I
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get it. But the more times you're out there, the
more chances you open yourself up that you could get injured.
That's just five, no doubt about it. Where do you
guys stand? Eight seven, seven? Curious on this one where
I think some people may want more games. And we
had Mike Freeman on from Bleacher Report and I said
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it before him, but he said it. He reiterated it.
People don't understand the brutality of this game. Rob. I
know you've been on sidelines obviously. I've covered mainly NBA.
A couple of years ago, when I was still at
the other network, they took us to a football game
and we got to stand on the sidelines. It was
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the Jets and the Bears. It was a Monday night game,
and that was my first time on an NFL sideline
during the game, and again I played football in high school.
Loved it. I was about that, the speed, and it
was scary. Television television destroyer, no question. It sanitizes it
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even in the warm ups watching the defensive backs, how
big and fast the players were, how cut up. The
defensive backs were obviously not huge, but the speed at
which they were moving in their drills, and then to
see the big guys and the kickoffs the hincoff looked
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like war. And you hear the hits. I mean it,
like Mike Freeman said, it's like a bunch of car crashes.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific. Carly Lloyd, the soccer player, great
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soccer player female. Did you see the video of her
kicking a fifty five yard field goal? Yes? Well, apparently
a few NFL teams have reached out to her about
kicking for them in a preseason game. I could see it,
and she may actually do it. Correct me if I'm wrong, Rob, Gi,
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She's not gonna do it. Rob. I thought she thought
there was talk she might do it. This so she
has a conflict. Yeah, she says she was reportedly considering it,
but the fact that it uh is at the same
time as an international friendly she has for soccer, she
kid would probably be the reason why she wouldn't do it.
I would love to see that. Let me just say, Chris,
here we go. Let me just say something. And I'm
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a man with two daughters. Here we go the house
with three women. So I'm not chouving this thick or anything. Oh,
here we go. Would you say, Chris barefoot Pregnanta. Look,
this has nothing to do with Carly Lloyd being a female.
You ust to see Chris, get that dump on am
telling you I'm a woman. This is a gimmick. Teams
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asking her to kick in a preseason game is a gimmick.
Want ratings, They want buzz. Here's why it's a gimmick
because anybody that watched that video of her kicking a
fifty five yard field goal, it was nice. Fine, I mean,
I'm not gonna take that away from her, but if
you really look at it, anybody that sits here, and
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I know these football executives know this, the ones that
called her and all that and come come kick for us.
They know this. She was five yards back when she
started moving toward kicking that ball. And if you watch
NFL kickers, they are three yards back all right, because
she kept making adjustment of two yards you can't. It's
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a big difference. Watch the NFL kickers when they kick off.
They could get field goals from seventy five eighty yards
when they kick off. Let me finish, finish, because I'm serious,
I'm not I'm not just not sexist or anything. I'm
just saying the fact that she had a five yard
running start or five yards start kick the field goal
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without padding on equipment, on without a pass rush or
a rush does not Nobody would think that's going to
correlate to being able to kick a field goal in
a game with rushers any equipment with a three yard start.
Like I said, if you watch kickers on kickoffs, they
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can put it through the uprights from the thirty five
to other thirty five yard line when they have several
yards back and they have that type of start, and
that's what she had, and you can't make the adjustment
because the reason they only go from three yards is
because the rushers are coming too quickly. But so that's
my point, like you can't and if you want to
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give a female a shot, a real shot. There's a
female kicker in Division two, Adams state. I forgot her name,
but give her a shot. If you really want to
give a female and be fair about it. It's like
the kind of Leza rights thing. What was she gonna
become a head coach? Are we talking about that? I mean,
that's what I'm saying. Give a female who really is
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in the football, not just a fan, but works in
the game. If you want to give somebody a chance,
do it that way. Don't take make it a gimmick.
I'm actually standing up for women. Don't take college soccer football.
I mean, so what's the difference clicks no clickers between
soccer and football? And we just say. Here's my point, though,
is what are you against giving her a shot if
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she can't make it. I'm just saying, gimmick if she
gets a block? What if she's good? You know how
many bad NFL kickers there are who the Bears just
lost the playoffs. Ain't the playoffs because the guy couldn't
kick a chip shot? Would it matter most? I'm saying
she shouldn't go along with the gimmick. Why if she's not,
why don't be used as a as a gimmick as
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a tool. But what if she's good enough and she
can make it, Chris, then let's see her kick from
a three yard start, then a five yard starts right
Russian before we throw her in there. But what it's
like saying somebody went out there and hit a three pointer. Oh,
let's put him in the NBA. No, but but no,
but that could happen. No, once she gets on the
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team and she practiced, you make the team. You don't
be giving a spot. Yes you do. They No, you
have to earn it. They're giving her a trialt. They
give people tryouts all the time. Because you don't give
her a try out. You saying, once she's on the team, yeah,
give her a try out. What you can try out.
But we didn't see a try We saw an exhibition
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that has nothing to do with a football game. I'm
trying to protect her. Don't be used as a gimmick
as a pride. Now you only have to create buzz.
Do you only match on carly side? The only thing
I'll say, throw her out there to the wolves. Put
her out there. But the only thing is that she
can't have. If she can't have the placeholder using a
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oven bit, you know what I mean to hold a
football that will not be allowed. Look at you and
you got the nerve that called me talk about me,
brought them barefoot and pregnant and all that. No, I'm
I'm all in. I'm all in on giving people opportunities.
If she's no good, you cut her, let her get
a shot at it, Chris, What if she can't make
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the field goal or you get a blot, so we
should just put her on the team. No, I mean
to try out first, and then if she can make
a couple and try out, give her a chance to
kick in a real game under pressure with the rush. Chris,
Let's put her this first. Let's practice. So you're not
against her going to practice in the trial. I was
not not she could earn it, but I don't. I don't,
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I don't. I think there are other people that would
deserve it before her. But if she could earn it,
then yeah, I'd be all for it. Okay, that's different thing.
Listen to what keenan Allen. I wasn't. It wasn't about
her being a woman. It was about looking at that
video and saying, that's got nothing to do with real football,
even just kicking the football, because she was he had
a giant start that normal kickers don't get, and they
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don't get it because there's a pass rush. Here's what
Keenan Allen, the wide receiver said, sounds sweet, you know,
and about her kicking for a team until somebody blocks
the kick and all of a sudden she's on defense.
It would be like the stampede scene in the Lion
King movie. I think that that you got a boot though.
But but you know what, I'll say this, we how
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many of the other kicks when they have in that situation, Chris,
they get run old frown, they poured out And no,
I saw a kicker who was that kicker? Was he
for the Browns? He drilled somebody on the kim with
the but the other was that? But most of the
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kickers of a week and stop and then no, these
guys are studs. These guys were athletes at a certain level,
athletes at the pro level, but in high school a
lot of them were actually pretty decent athletes. I don't
have a woman doesn't need to be out there when
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it gets rough. I mean there's a reason. You know,
there's a there's a difference. Nah, she don't need to
be out there when he gets rough. You sound like
when Billy gen King wanted to play tennis. That's tennis
and there's a difference. Nah, you know that. What was
his name, Bobby Riggs? Bobby he was old, right, Bobby
Riggs and Billy jen King. Didn't she beat she beat it.
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He was old. Better get out there with Arthur ashe
Jimmy Ks or something and get better and then you
would say that you made a better tennis way. Serena
said it. Serena said she couldn't beat any in the
top ranked man. She goes and she could beat you.
She could stop me.
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