October 30, 2019 • 26 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob discuss the possibility that Anthony Davis might be LeBron James' greatest teammate ever, and the guys break down the great bat flip controversy in Game 6. Plus, Fox Sports MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi gives his thoughts on Game 7, and his pick for the World Series.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rob Harker Lakers and Lakers
and Clippers played. I want you to know that the
Clippers should be the favorites. They should because they have
fewer questions. The Lakers have a lot of questions, a
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lot of things. They're still got to get a lot
of stuff to get out, a lot of stuff to
work out. So but they look good last night, particularly
Anthony Davis. He did some historical stuff. First of all,
he gets forty points and twenty rebounds in a shorter
period of times than any player in NBA history. Anyone
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will el Jim Baylor. None of them got forty and
twenty in thirty one minutes like Anthony Davis did. That's
number one, Number two. You gotta give him this robe.
He made twenty six of twenty seven free throws. That's
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in president. That would be impressive for James Harden and
Steph Curry let alone a big man. Can you give
him that? Yeah, I'll give him not. I mean could
think about it. The third quarter he was eighteen for
eighteen from the line. The best shooters go up there.
I've hit seven straight. I'm due, I'm I'm you know
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you still talking about your no, just so, I'm like, really,
whatever game is where I hit like eleven straight free throws?
And then you start thinking to yourself. You played in divisions?
You play Indivision and four. Nobody's under stand. First of all,
I was Division three. You played Division what? No, I'm
just saying what they happened Southwest Connecticut Valley States? What what?
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What level did you play at? Their Southern Connecticut Division two? Yeah,
but you were how did you even score? No? I
was covering the game, Shane. I was covering the game.
It's the same thing playing Division or covering the game
at Division two and three, ny Night. Either way, you're
not playing really college basketball. Defn George played Division three.
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I have you, I'll have you know you remember Devin
George went to a relationship player a religious school, had
nothing to do with really basketball. They had twelve black
guys on campus. They said, we might as well have
a basketball team. That's how you get on the team.
You're trying to look, Oberlin College was the I have
you know, since you're trying to get all what black
on a brother. Oberlin College was the first college in
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America to allow freaking American students. You know that? Is
that right? Yes, that's very true. Oberlin was a stop
on the underground railroad. I'm dead serious. Wow, now he
feels bad. I'm not bad for making him feel bad.
I don't feel bad. I think that's sad. That's a
great thing. Okay, that's what I'm saying. They were the
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first to allow women too. Really yeah, time history. They
could do all that because they were in a cornfield
and nobody was going on. John Heisman went to Oberlin, right, yes,
I'm dropping bombs on you, buddy. George's Southwest Southern Connecticut, Connecticut.
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All right, Look, we had we had two NFL coaches
come out of Southern Connecticut. That's pretty impress division two
head coaches. Yeah, Kevin Gilbride who was a head coach,
who was a Giant's offensive coordinator, head coach with the
charge Coffee and a sweet roll as a head he
did one year with the Chargers. He did one. Buddy
Ryant swung on right, Kevin Gilbride, and Chris Palmer, who
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was the first coach of the Cleveland Browns when they
got the expansion team when they left to Baltimore. Chris
Palmer was their first head Ravens not at all if
the Browns when the Browns came back, came back when
they came back and they came back as an expansion team. Wow,
Chris Palmer sold Southern Connecticut at two NFL head coaches.
That's not bad for a Division two program. It's all right,
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all right. You know who else who taught it over
lins as were comparing, you know Tommy Smith, he taught it. Wow,
you can't compete like that. You got Columbia too. That's
what I'm not even bring up. I'm proud of Southern Connecticut,
all right. The fighting owls, the fighting owl, fighting fighting
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Craig mel when you need him, God, all right, Rob Letting,
you got me off. See you don't go ahead, Bob
Anthony Davis Pama got me off on the tangent. Hey,
he had a great night. The only reason that I'm
a little with all the free throws, I just wonder.
And I didn't get to watch the game, so I'm
not even gonna sit here and tell you because I
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was too busy watching baseball. I didn't I didn't watch.
I was going back, well, I actually had one on
my phone and then you were watching. Yeah, so I
don't know. I mean, it just seemed like a lot
of free throws. Eighteen free throws in a quarter is
like when Dwayne Wade won the championship, remember that, and
and and it just was it just skewed everything because
you said, really was it? Was? It really like seven
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for seventeen. That's what I'm saying. It's a weird game
to night. I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying he
got the forty points. But it was a weird game.
And it was against Memphis who held it close because
I did see the score until the third quarter and
then they fell apart or whatever. Let me ask you,
this is Anthony Davis, Lebron's best teammate. I'd say no
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right off the bat, only because I know what Dwayne
Wade did with Lebron, and even before Lebron, you know
what I mean. But he won a title and I
saw him up close. It was during those years when
they were battling the Pistons in the East. So I
saw Miami. I saw the Pistons go there and win
a Game seven in Miami to go back to the
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championship the second year against Anton. So I've seen that.
So I still would say Dwayne Wade. I get it.
Anthony's younger and what's going on, and a big man
and all the stuff that he can do. But it's
hard for me to look past what I know. I
don't know Anthony Davis and Lebron gonna win the title.
But I saw Dwayne Wade. You'd be surprised. Keep I wouldn't,
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but you would. I would if they were the time,
only because of the West, the other teams that are there.
They're not going anywhere. Lebron's only getting older, you know,
and all those other things. They if they have a
good year, they don't make it this year. I don't know,
Year eighteen or year nineteen won't be their best shot,
probably their best chance to win it. That's all. As
Lebron gets older, that's all, he's still playing well. But
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we always talk about it as about impact, not as
much just putting up number. Yeah, I'm with you. You
can't override the fact that, as you said, Lebron and
Wade won two titles together, but more than that, Wade
one before Lebron. Now, yeah, shock, but it wasn't vintage Shack.
It was a good shock. It was a twenty and
nine shock, but it wasn't you know, and it was right.
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Wade clearly took over the finals. So historically, I put
it this way, rob Historically, right now, if you ranked players,
Wade would be ranked ahead of Anthony Davis. However, potentially,
talent wise, I think Anthony Davis has more than Wade.
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What Anthony Davis doesn't have or the rings. He doesn't
have the accomplishments that Wade have, So you'd have to
give Wade the edge historically, But talent wise, Dwayne Wade
wasn't a rate jump shooter. Anthony Davis is a decent
shooter like Wade, but he's six ten, sixty eleven. He's
one of the best defenders in the league. And again
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he's bigger than Wade. He's one of the best rebounderies
in the league. He's gonna average twenty seven points or
somehow his peer historically is off the charts. But what
he doesn't have, and you will agree, even though you
hate this word, Wade had more intangibles because Wade helped
Lebron learn how to win, right, and Lebron is gonna
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help a D. At least the plan is for him
to help a D learn how to win. A D
did nothing. At least Lebron could teach him how to
get to the finals and lose. That might be Look
at you, I knew you. I knew there was a
shot at Lebron somewhere. But do you agree with me?
Potentially a D like talent wise, he is the most
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talented teammate Lebron's had. But I would I give you
Wade is the best only because we know you know
what I mean, right If it was like they both
played and they were playing and he had a chance
to play with either one, and you could gauge it
that way. But knowing what I know, it's hard for
me to pick a D if if they won the
championship this year and say a D is the MVP,
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or even if he isn't you would you would you
go with a d No? If he won the MVP, yeah,
it would be that it would be much closer. Yeah,
so he has to win a few only because you
just said. But Dwayne Wade had already won. He won
three and he won without lebron ad. He didn't do anything.
You You ain't a big a d fan's okay, wow,
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I'm just you're a tough job. I am, But I'm
tough across the board to everybody. That's all I am.
Not guys that wear stirrups it comes to baseball. You know, Rob,
I don't have any soft spots. No, no, you got
I'm the ten man. You don't have sauce spots when
it comes to baseball. You just won big gooey do
nut or something, but gooey piece of dough. You know that.
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Love to get it? You love it, I get it.
Everybody has their favorites. I love to get, but you
just get I used to. I was a kid, wusy.
I was a kid walking around the streets of Jamaica
Queens at nine years old. I wore a baseball cap
every day. And you know what I did. I walked
around the street like this walked around people to watch
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on YouTube. I used to walk around like I used
to pitch in the wind up. I used to do that,
just keep walking around, going like this good. I used
to just pitch. You got beat up a lot too
that I was too tall. I was six foot two
and I weighed one hundred and thirty pounds. You know, Jay,
you were you were kid Dyno mine. No, I wasn't
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Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Rob I loved it. You,
being a baseball purist, probably hated it. I don't. Just
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the conservative Alex Bregman emotional. He hits a homer. He
it's a home run in the Game six of the
World Series that looks like it could win the World
Series for your team, and he gets caught up and
carries the bat to first base, gives it to the
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first you know, first base coach who didn't even grab
redropped it yet he wasn't with it. And then Wan
Soto for the Nationals does the same thing. But it
was cool. But Soto thought it was cool. But Soto
did it to stick it in the face of him. Yes,
said he thought it was cool. There was a quote,
but he said, hey, I loved it. If I get
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an opportunity, I figured I'd do it. But it was
the emotion of if now I feel was just an
emotional thing. If that, but if he would to do that,
like in a regular season game or whatever, he would
be thrown at the next time he would It's wrong
to carry the bat the first It's right to being
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the guy the next inning. Yes, how is that? How
is that next time you come up? Don't be carrying?
What's wrong with about the first because that's not what
we do because you've been what we do. We we
didn't use to shift. You're fifty years old. You ever
see a guy bring your back the first name. There's
a fight going on. I want to hit you over
the head with the bat. I never saw a guy
wearing arms leaving the NBA for a while, didn't they
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started doing that. Ain't the same as carrying the bat.
That's that's what you ever saw. There was a point
when it's a total call in the room, like if
he were that Lebron stares out into the crowd after
a great favor. I mean, what's wrong with that? If
he flavor a little soul, if he ran around the
whole base with the bat, why not, what's the difference?
The difference is you're in the base pass with a bat,
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but if you're if you're running the first bake? Mean,
why why your baseball players so sensitive? Seriously, I'm not
saying that. I just told you, Like, come on, I
thought that they're gonna get thrown at because I mean
most I thought it was dancing the end zone. Do
I get dude? They hit me with a dirty player
cheap shot the next time I get on the field.
It just depends. Is it a bad uh? Cabbage patron?
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Stop it? Rob? You know I love I love the
cabbage past. Basketball players can celebrate, Football players can celebrate.
Why not baseball players you can celebrate. But I don't
think that's a part of it. The bad thing was
weird because I've never seen that. Why are you carrying
the back to first base? It is a way of
showing up the picture like uh, And I think that
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nobody got thrown that quz so they let it go
out in the world serious. It didn't because nobody can.
Even though even though Dave Martinez got thrown out of
the game, which you don't normally, you know, you don't
see because two big games, but he was hot about
the thrown We'll talk about the playoff first base. Gonna
talk about the base want to play later on on
in the show too, because that was a little pretty
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rob here's my thing out of bounds. The next generation
likes that attitude, swagger, flavor. Come on, man, I know
for you old timer, no gray Beard, I get it
for you. That's how it wasn't like that great beard.
Mine is natural whatever. It's great, all right, I mean,
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But for the youngsters, they liked that. They want some
hip hop. I know you wanted to be folk music
in Country West. Nobody generation was hip hop. Well, Alex
Bregman did was hip hop. Do you remember when the
Yankees won the World Series in two thousand and I
know it's been a decade. Do you remember what song
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was prevalent and what was played? Blasting replacing Frank Sinatra's
New York New York jay Z jay Z. So don't
act like they ain't got a little flavor there that
was that was, But that was ten years ago. Admit
you never thought that they would replaced Sinatras New York,
New York. They replaced it with jay z Song because
it's more relevant and they were the vibe of what
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was going on at that time. World Series sense look
at you but out or Curson Frank Sinatra and Curson
Jay z u Right. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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to be joined by Fox MLB insider John Morosi. John,
Welcome to the I Chris Robert eight Game seven and
my friends. This is a very unique occurrence. Of course
we had a couple of years ago in MLB as well,
but this is special anytime it comes around World Series
Game seven, cannot wait and we and we saw that
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great game that was the Cleveland Clubs when the Cup
won their first World Series in one hundred and eight years.
So hopefully we have an epic battle tonight. Uh. I
was gonna ask John, I understand how good his scherzer is.
Do you want a short lease? Do they feel like
he can he can really give them five, six, seven innings,
or this is about go out and gut it out
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and do as much as you can and then we'll
get the reserves to come in. Rob I would say,
if Scherzer gives them five innings and gives up one run,
that is more than enough in terms of what his
expectations should be here. If he was one hundred percent
un then he would have pitched a couple of days
ago and we never would have heard anything about this
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issue with his neck and his back. I think that
it's it's apparent to me that he is compromised on
some level. Uh. And to go from not being able
to pitch in the World Series games of being fully
healthy and in forty eight hours, I think would be
would be a little little difficult to imagine her. So
I think he's probably four or five innings and and
really if for the Nationals to win this game, Rob
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and Chris I believe they've got to have a comfortable
lead by the fifth inning or so, because the Astros
probably have a little bit more in terms of their
their bullpen options at the moment, at least going into it,
I think, than what the Nationals do. And one thing
about the way that Game six ended last night, is
Dave Martinez or of course at the time acting manager
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Chip Hale, they felt as though they had to go
to the bullpen late, even with a comfortable lead, And
that's one more look against Doolittle that certainly could help
Alvarez in a game like tonight. So I think a
lot of really interesting elements of managing tonight guys that
even go back to what we saw in Game six
as well. John, you mentioned that Scherzer's compromised. How much
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of a risk is this starting him? And how close
was it to them just going ahead with Anna bos Sanchez.
I mean, that's not a bad option to go with
Sanchez instead of Scherzer tonight. Well, I think from my standpoint, Chris,
that in a game seven like this, I recall I
covered it back in twenty fourteen as well with Kansas
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City in San Francisco, like Tim Hudson pitched an inning
in a third, I think Dave Martinez has probably already
concluded he is not going to let a tired Max
Scherzer lose this game, right at least unless it's one nothing,
Because once you once you've given up a run, once
you wobble a little bit, you're out of the game.
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There's there is no need, especially there was, of course
a day off before Game six. There is no need
to let a struggling starting pitcher stand them mount any
longer than he has to, because from the national standpoint,
to me, what reduces the risk of this strategy a
little from from their perspective is they have Annie ball
Sanchez there in long relief potentially, They've got Patrick Corbyn
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in long relief potentially. And even then there was the
note to Dan Shulman adds here earlier tonight, the possibility
that even Strasberg pitch for a short look, which of
course we saw it happen with Jake Arietta as I
recall it back in twenty sixteen. So this is the
really unique test, guys, of just how much you've got left,
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how you could conceive of charting the last twenty seven
outs of the season knowing that, of course you've got
all these months to rest after this. And I really
think that from Strasberg's perspective, guys, I want to make
a pretty strong statement on his part because he had
someone whose toughness was questioned a lot, and certainly I
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am someone who criticized the way the Nationals handled him
seven years ago, wondering where the plan was and thinking
you've got to take every chance you've got to win
a World Series. But there is some measure of vindication
now for the Nationals and for Strasburg himself. You think
about what he has done now, including last night's outing.
He ranks second second all time and era as a
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starter among pitchers who have started at least eight postseason games.
The only guy ahead of him Hall of Famer Christy
Mathewson at point nine seventy right, ridiculous, point five six.
No one can ever say that Strasbourg is not a
big game pitcher, no doubt about it. But what on
the other side, Zach Grenky, I just don't feel as confident.
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Should ask Joe fans really feel confident? He had some
uneven starts, Uh, I don't. I don't know what to
expect from him tonight. What do you expect? I share
that concern. I think he is someone who on his
best days can still pitch like the cy young winner
that he was, and certainly, in in Game three of
this series, a game that the Astros had to have,
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they were down o two and going on the road,
he'd did give them four and two thirds innings, He
gave up just the one earned run, didn't give up
a home run. Yeah, he walked three, but he also
struck out six, so overall a pretty good outing for him.
He was he was on the ropes often but never
gave in. And and if if it sort of to
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borrow from when I said about Scherzer, if Grenky gives
the Astros again what he gave them in Game three,
if it's four and two thords innings and one er
and run, they will also be ecstatic because that gets
you then multiple times through the lineup with all of
your best bullpen guys still available to cover the remaining innings,
potentially even a Garret Cole there. So I think, to me, guys,
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it's fascinating because you've got a lot of really principal
key guys. Yet the Astros of course won the World
Series two years ago, but Grenky did not, Garrett Cole
did not, Michael Brandley did not. You got some some
major veteran guys that have not yet won the World Series,
and of course on the Washington side, most of them haven't.
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And so you've got Anthony Rendon and Garret Cole. Someone
here is going to win a World Series in what
could be his last game with that team before free agency,
and someone else is gonna lose it. You can even
put Strasberg in that category. Of course, he hasn't opt
out in his contract as well, so you've got a
lot of different legacy questions at stake. And then I
would say the Astros as an organization really fit that
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category because if they win it, then okay, you've won
two and three years and you've got this this this
really firm footprint on the end of the decade as
being the team of the latter years of this decade.
But if you don't win, then what do you have
to show for the twenty tents. You've got the nineteenth
best record, only nineteenth out of thirty teams in the
regular season over the decade because of how bad those
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first years were, and one championship, two championships sounds a
lot different than one. It's certainly much more than you
would think, and I really believe a lot is at
stake tonight for the Houston Astro John John Morossi, Fox
MLB Insider, joining the Eye Couple, John you mentioned free agency.
I don't want to, you know, get ahead of the
game too far, but is it fair to argue that,
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you know, you talked about Strasburg. Obviously he's become this great,
big game pitcher. Could he be the bigger free agent
on the market, bigger than Cole this summer or this offseason? Yeah,
at an excellent question, Chris. I think that for some
they may view him that wedding. Cole has probably the advantage.
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Of course, he has not had the Tommy John surgery
that Strasbourg has h And I also think, Chris that
from just kind of talking to people around the situation,
Cole is someone who would go anywhere. Garrett Cole would
would sign with any team. I'm not saying it's necessarily
going to sign with the with the biggest contract, but
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he will be very open minded, I believe, and is
not going to be restricted to what's Ben said, Oh
he's going to sign with the West Coast. I'm not
buying that. So he could sign with the Montreal x Balls.
Why not go back to the future. Whereas with Strasburg, guys,
he really seems to like his comfort zone and there
are some that believe all well, Strasburg wants to go
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back he was from San Diego, wants to go back home.
I'm not convinced to that. I think that for someone
who is who is a noted introverts as Strasburg is
and is open talking about that, likes to kind of
keep to himself, I'm not sure that going back home
is the best place to go. Sometimes that is the
worst place to go. And well, we know all examples
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of different sports of guys who went home thinking it
was the right thing. And there's so many distractions that
got your third grade teacher asking for tickets. It's it's complicated,
and so I think Strasbourg, I think that all things
being equal, guys, the way that he's pitched this year,
the cover level he's got now in DC, I think Strasburg,
whether he opts out and resigns there, just doesn't op
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that at all. I think that he probably ends up
staying in DC, and as a result, maybe the money
won't quite be as exhorbited as it's going to be
for Garrett cole John. Last thing, we only got about
forty five seconds. The thing about the Nationals that that
I think would make fans feel confident about them. They're
four and known elimination games, so they win when the
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pruss is on. And they've trailed in all four of
those games and won all four. So they've been down,
you know, and and they don't give up. Is that
a trip? You don't see that that often, especially in
this situation where you're playing on the road. You're right,
And and Rob, I give a lot of credit for
for building a team concept very quickly. Of course, they
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lost Bryce Harper during the course of the wintertime and
they had to rEFInd their identity and they did that
and it almost cost Dave Martinez his job earlier in
the year, but they found it. They've clicked. Uh. And
you're absolutely right, dude. There was going to be adversity
for them tonight at some point in time. And what
they have proven to us this month is they are
not phased by that in the least. And if you
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want to pick the Nationals based on that, I think
it's a pretty good projection right now, Rob, based on
the way they've played here in this postseason. Are you
ject real quick? You got who you got real quick?
So I just said, so I gotta go with the Nationals.
You know, for a while I thought the Astros, We're
gonna win this series. But I'm going with a momentum
right now and in a bit of an underdog story there,
Nationals win the World Series tonight
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rob Harker Lakers and Lakers
and Clippers played. I want you to know that the
Clippers should be the favorites. They should because they have
fewer questions. The Lakers have a lot of questions, a
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lot of things. They're still got to get a lot
of stuff to get out, a lot of stuff to
work out. So but they look good last night, particularly
Anthony Davis. He did some historical stuff. First of all,
he gets forty points and twenty rebounds in a shorter
period of times than any player in NBA history. Anyone
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will el Jim Baylor. None of them got forty and
twenty in thirty one minutes like Anthony Davis did. That's
number one, Number two. You gotta give him this robe.
He made twenty six of twenty seven free throws. That's
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in president. That would be impressive for James Harden and
Steph Curry let alone a big man. Can you give
him that? Yeah, I'll give him not. I mean could
think about it. The third quarter he was eighteen for
eighteen from the line. The best shooters go up there.
I've hit seven straight. I'm due, I'm I'm you know
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you still talking about your no, just so, I'm like, really,
whatever game is where I hit like eleven straight free throws?
And then you start thinking to yourself. You played in divisions?
You play Indivision and four. Nobody's under stand. First of all,
I was Division three. You played Division what? No, I'm
just saying what they happened Southwest Connecticut Valley States? What what?
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What level did you play at? Their Southern Connecticut Division two? Yeah,
but you were how did you even score? No? I
was covering the game, Shane. I was covering the game.
It's the same thing playing Division or covering the game
at Division two and three, ny Night. Either way, you're
not playing really college basketball. Defn George played Division three.
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I have you, I'll have you know you remember Devin
George went to a relationship player a religious school, had
nothing to do with really basketball. They had twelve black
guys on campus. They said, we might as well have
a basketball team. That's how you get on the team.
You're trying to look, Oberlin College was the I have
you know, since you're trying to get all what black
on a brother. Oberlin College was the first college in
(02:57):
America to allow freaking American students. You know that? Is
that right? Yes, that's very true. Oberlin was a stop
on the underground railroad. I'm dead serious. Wow, now he
feels bad. I'm not bad for making him feel bad.
I don't feel bad. I think that's sad. That's a
great thing. Okay, that's what I'm saying. They were the
(03:17):
first to allow women too. Really yeah, time history. They
could do all that because they were in a cornfield
and nobody was going on. John Heisman went to Oberlin, right, yes,
I'm dropping bombs on you, buddy. George's Southwest Southern Connecticut, Connecticut.
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All right, Look, we had we had two NFL coaches
come out of Southern Connecticut. That's pretty impress division two
head coaches. Yeah, Kevin Gilbride who was a head coach,
who was a Giant's offensive coordinator, head coach with the
charge Coffee and a sweet roll as a head he
did one year with the Chargers. He did one. Buddy
Ryant swung on right, Kevin Gilbride, and Chris Palmer, who
(04:01):
was the first coach of the Cleveland Browns when they
got the expansion team when they left to Baltimore. Chris
Palmer was their first head Ravens not at all if
the Browns when the Browns came back, came back when
they came back and they came back as an expansion team. Wow,
Chris Palmer sold Southern Connecticut at two NFL head coaches.
That's not bad for a Division two program. It's all right,
(04:23):
all right. You know who else who taught it over
lins as were comparing, you know Tommy Smith, he taught it. Wow,
you can't compete like that. You got Columbia too. That's
what I'm not even bring up. I'm proud of Southern Connecticut,
all right. The fighting owls, the fighting owl, fighting fighting
(04:49):
Craig mel when you need him, God, all right, Rob Letting,
you got me off. See you don't go ahead, Bob
Anthony Davis Pama got me off on the tangent. Hey,
he had a great night. The only reason that I'm
a little with all the free throws, I just wonder.
And I didn't get to watch the game, so I'm
not even gonna sit here and tell you because I
(05:09):
was too busy watching baseball. I didn't I didn't watch.
I was going back, well, I actually had one on
my phone and then you were watching. Yeah, so I
don't know. I mean, it just seemed like a lot
of free throws. Eighteen free throws in a quarter is
like when Dwayne Wade won the championship, remember that, and
and and it just was it just skewed everything because
you said, really was it? Was? It really like seven
(05:31):
for seventeen. That's what I'm saying. It's a weird game
to night. I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying he
got the forty points. But it was a weird game.
And it was against Memphis who held it close because
I did see the score until the third quarter and
then they fell apart or whatever. Let me ask you,
this is Anthony Davis, Lebron's best teammate. I'd say no
(05:56):
right off the bat, only because I know what Dwayne
Wade did with Lebron, and even before Lebron, you know
what I mean. But he won a title and I
saw him up close. It was during those years when
they were battling the Pistons in the East. So I
saw Miami. I saw the Pistons go there and win
a Game seven in Miami to go back to the
(06:18):
championship the second year against Anton. So I've seen that.
So I still would say Dwayne Wade. I get it.
Anthony's younger and what's going on, and a big man
and all the stuff that he can do. But it's
hard for me to look past what I know. I
don't know Anthony Davis and Lebron gonna win the title.
But I saw Dwayne Wade. You'd be surprised. Keep I wouldn't,
(06:41):
but you would. I would if they were the time,
only because of the West, the other teams that are there.
They're not going anywhere. Lebron's only getting older, you know,
and all those other things. They if they have a
good year, they don't make it this year. I don't know,
Year eighteen or year nineteen won't be their best shot,
probably their best chance to win it. That's all. As
Lebron gets older, that's all, he's still playing well. But
(07:03):
we always talk about it as about impact, not as
much just putting up number. Yeah, I'm with you. You
can't override the fact that, as you said, Lebron and
Wade won two titles together, but more than that, Wade
one before Lebron. Now, yeah, shock, but it wasn't vintage Shack.
It was a good shock. It was a twenty and
nine shock, but it wasn't you know, and it was right.
(07:26):
Wade clearly took over the finals. So historically, I put
it this way, rob Historically, right now, if you ranked players,
Wade would be ranked ahead of Anthony Davis. However, potentially,
talent wise, I think Anthony Davis has more than Wade.
(07:48):
What Anthony Davis doesn't have or the rings. He doesn't
have the accomplishments that Wade have, So you'd have to
give Wade the edge historically, But talent wise, Dwayne Wade
wasn't a rate jump shooter. Anthony Davis is a decent
shooter like Wade, but he's six ten, sixty eleven. He's
one of the best defenders in the league. And again
(08:09):
he's bigger than Wade. He's one of the best rebounderies
in the league. He's gonna average twenty seven points or
somehow his peer historically is off the charts. But what
he doesn't have, and you will agree, even though you
hate this word, Wade had more intangibles because Wade helped
Lebron learn how to win, right, and Lebron is gonna
(08:30):
help a D. At least the plan is for him
to help a D learn how to win. A D
did nothing. At least Lebron could teach him how to
get to the finals and lose. That might be Look
at you, I knew you. I knew there was a
shot at Lebron somewhere. But do you agree with me?
Potentially a D like talent wise, he is the most
(08:53):
talented teammate Lebron's had. But I would I give you
Wade is the best only because we know you know
what I mean, right If it was like they both
played and they were playing and he had a chance
to play with either one, and you could gauge it
that way. But knowing what I know, it's hard for
me to pick a D if if they won the
championship this year and say a D is the MVP,
(09:16):
or even if he isn't you would you would you
go with a d No? If he won the MVP, yeah,
it would be that it would be much closer. Yeah,
so he has to win a few only because you
just said. But Dwayne Wade had already won. He won
three and he won without lebron ad. He didn't do anything.
You You ain't a big a d fan's okay, wow,
(09:39):
I'm just you're a tough job. I am, But I'm
tough across the board to everybody. That's all I am.
Not guys that wear stirrups it comes to baseball. You know, Rob,
I don't have any soft spots. No, no, you got
I'm the ten man. You don't have sauce spots when
it comes to baseball. You just won big gooey do
nut or something, but gooey piece of dough. You know that.
(10:02):
Love to get it? You love it, I get it.
Everybody has their favorites. I love to get, but you
just get I used to. I was a kid, wusy.
I was a kid walking around the streets of Jamaica
Queens at nine years old. I wore a baseball cap
every day. And you know what I did. I walked
around the street like this walked around people to watch
(10:24):
on YouTube. I used to walk around like I used
to pitch in the wind up. I used to do that,
just keep walking around, going like this good. I used
to just pitch. You got beat up a lot too
that I was too tall. I was six foot two
and I weighed one hundred and thirty pounds. You know, Jay,
you were you were kid Dyno mine. No, I wasn't
(10:44):
that skitty. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Brussar and Rob Parker week days
at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Rob I loved it. You,
being a baseball purist, probably hated it. I don't. Just
(11:05):
the conservative Alex Bregman emotional. He hits a homer. He
it's a home run in the Game six of the
World Series that looks like it could win the World
Series for your team, and he gets caught up and
carries the bat to first base, gives it to the
(11:25):
first you know, first base coach who didn't even grab
redropped it yet he wasn't with it. And then Wan
Soto for the Nationals does the same thing. But it
was cool. But Soto thought it was cool. But Soto
did it to stick it in the face of him. Yes,
said he thought it was cool. There was a quote,
but he said, hey, I loved it. If I get
(11:46):
an opportunity, I figured I'd do it. But it was
the emotion of if now I feel was just an
emotional thing. If that, but if he would to do that,
like in a regular season game or whatever, he would
be thrown at the next time he would It's wrong
to carry the bat the first It's right to being
(12:06):
the guy the next inning. Yes, how is that? How
is that next time you come up? Don't be carrying?
What's wrong with about the first because that's not what
we do because you've been what we do. We we
didn't use to shift. You're fifty years old. You ever
see a guy bring your back the first name. There's
a fight going on. I want to hit you over
the head with the bat. I never saw a guy
wearing arms leaving the NBA for a while, didn't they
(12:28):
started doing that. Ain't the same as carrying the bat.
That's that's what you ever saw. There was a point
when it's a total call in the room, like if
he were that Lebron stares out into the crowd after
a great favor. I mean, what's wrong with that? If
he flavor a little soul, if he ran around the
whole base with the bat, why not, what's the difference?
The difference is you're in the base pass with a bat,
(12:50):
but if you're if you're running the first bake? Mean,
why why your baseball players so sensitive? Seriously, I'm not
saying that. I just told you, Like, come on, I
thought that they're gonna get thrown at because I mean
most I thought it was dancing the end zone. Do
I get dude? They hit me with a dirty player
cheap shot the next time I get on the field.
It just depends. Is it a bad uh? Cabbage patron?
(13:12):
Stop it? Rob? You know I love I love the
cabbage past. Basketball players can celebrate, Football players can celebrate.
Why not baseball players you can celebrate. But I don't
think that's a part of it. The bad thing was
weird because I've never seen that. Why are you carrying
the back to first base? It is a way of
showing up the picture like uh, And I think that
(13:35):
nobody got thrown that quz so they let it go
out in the world serious. It didn't because nobody can.
Even though even though Dave Martinez got thrown out of
the game, which you don't normally, you know, you don't
see because two big games, but he was hot about
the thrown We'll talk about the playoff first base. Gonna
talk about the base want to play later on on
in the show too, because that was a little pretty
(13:58):
rob here's my thing out of bounds. The next generation
likes that attitude, swagger, flavor. Come on, man, I know
for you old timer, no gray Beard, I get it
for you. That's how it wasn't like that great beard.
Mine is natural whatever. It's great, all right, I mean,
(14:23):
But for the youngsters, they liked that. They want some
hip hop. I know you wanted to be folk music
in Country West. Nobody generation was hip hop. Well, Alex
Bregman did was hip hop. Do you remember when the
Yankees won the World Series in two thousand and I
know it's been a decade. Do you remember what song
(14:43):
was prevalent and what was played? Blasting replacing Frank Sinatra's
New York New York jay Z jay Z. So don't
act like they ain't got a little flavor there that
was that was, But that was ten years ago. Admit
you never thought that they would replaced Sinatras New York,
New York. They replaced it with jay z Song because
it's more relevant and they were the vibe of what
(15:05):
was going on at that time. World Series sense look
at you but out or Curson Frank Sinatra and Curson
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(15:29):
to be joined by Fox MLB insider John Morosi. John,
Welcome to the I Chris Robert eight Game seven and
my friends. This is a very unique occurrence. Of course
we had a couple of years ago in MLB as well,
but this is special anytime it comes around World Series
Game seven, cannot wait and we and we saw that
(15:50):
great game that was the Cleveland Clubs when the Cup
won their first World Series in one hundred and eight years.
So hopefully we have an epic battle tonight. Uh. I
was gonna ask John, I understand how good his scherzer is.
Do you want a short lease? Do they feel like
he can he can really give them five, six, seven innings,
or this is about go out and gut it out
(16:12):
and do as much as you can and then we'll
get the reserves to come in. Rob I would say,
if Scherzer gives them five innings and gives up one run,
that is more than enough in terms of what his
expectations should be here. If he was one hundred percent
un then he would have pitched a couple of days
ago and we never would have heard anything about this
(16:34):
issue with his neck and his back. I think that
it's it's apparent to me that he is compromised on
some level. Uh. And to go from not being able
to pitch in the World Series games of being fully
healthy and in forty eight hours, I think would be
would be a little little difficult to imagine her. So
I think he's probably four or five innings and and
really if for the Nationals to win this game, Rob
(16:57):
and Chris I believe they've got to have a comfortable
lead by the fifth inning or so, because the Astros
probably have a little bit more in terms of their
their bullpen options at the moment, at least going into it,
I think, than what the Nationals do. And one thing
about the way that Game six ended last night, is
Dave Martinez or of course at the time acting manager
(17:18):
Chip Hale, they felt as though they had to go
to the bullpen late, even with a comfortable lead, And
that's one more look against Doolittle that certainly could help
Alvarez in a game like tonight. So I think a
lot of really interesting elements of managing tonight guys that
even go back to what we saw in Game six
as well. John, you mentioned that Scherzer's compromised. How much
(17:39):
of a risk is this starting him? And how close
was it to them just going ahead with Anna bos Sanchez.
I mean, that's not a bad option to go with
Sanchez instead of Scherzer tonight. Well, I think from my standpoint, Chris,
that in a game seven like this, I recall I
covered it back in twenty fourteen as well with Kansas
(18:00):
City in San Francisco, like Tim Hudson pitched an inning
in a third, I think Dave Martinez has probably already
concluded he is not going to let a tired Max
Scherzer lose this game, right at least unless it's one nothing,
Because once you once you've given up a run, once
you wobble a little bit, you're out of the game.
(18:22):
There's there is no need, especially there was, of course
a day off before Game six. There is no need
to let a struggling starting pitcher stand them mount any
longer than he has to, because from the national standpoint,
to me, what reduces the risk of this strategy a
little from from their perspective is they have Annie ball
Sanchez there in long relief potentially, They've got Patrick Corbyn
(18:46):
in long relief potentially. And even then there was the
note to Dan Shulman adds here earlier tonight, the possibility
that even Strasberg pitch for a short look, which of
course we saw it happen with Jake Arietta as I
recall it back in twenty sixteen. So this is the
really unique test, guys, of just how much you've got left,
(19:07):
how you could conceive of charting the last twenty seven
outs of the season knowing that, of course you've got
all these months to rest after this. And I really
think that from Strasberg's perspective, guys, I want to make
a pretty strong statement on his part because he had
someone whose toughness was questioned a lot, and certainly I
(19:29):
am someone who criticized the way the Nationals handled him
seven years ago, wondering where the plan was and thinking
you've got to take every chance you've got to win
a World Series. But there is some measure of vindication
now for the Nationals and for Strasburg himself. You think
about what he has done now, including last night's outing.
He ranks second second all time and era as a
(19:51):
starter among pitchers who have started at least eight postseason games.
The only guy ahead of him Hall of Famer Christy
Mathewson at point nine seventy right, ridiculous, point five six.
No one can ever say that Strasbourg is not a
big game pitcher, no doubt about it. But what on
the other side, Zach Grenky, I just don't feel as confident.
(20:13):
Should ask Joe fans really feel confident? He had some
uneven starts, Uh, I don't. I don't know what to
expect from him tonight. What do you expect? I share
that concern. I think he is someone who on his
best days can still pitch like the cy young winner
that he was, and certainly, in in Game three of
this series, a game that the Astros had to have,
(20:35):
they were down o two and going on the road,
he'd did give them four and two thirds innings, He
gave up just the one earned run, didn't give up
a home run. Yeah, he walked three, but he also
struck out six, so overall a pretty good outing for him.
He was he was on the ropes often but never
gave in. And and if if it sort of to
(20:55):
borrow from when I said about Scherzer, if Grenky gives
the Astros again what he gave them in Game three,
if it's four and two thords innings and one er
and run, they will also be ecstatic because that gets
you then multiple times through the lineup with all of
your best bullpen guys still available to cover the remaining innings,
potentially even a Garret Cole there. So I think, to me, guys,
(21:19):
it's fascinating because you've got a lot of really principal
key guys. Yet the Astros of course won the World
Series two years ago, but Grenky did not, Garrett Cole
did not, Michael Brandley did not. You got some some
major veteran guys that have not yet won the World Series,
and of course on the Washington side, most of them haven't.
(21:42):
And so you've got Anthony Rendon and Garret Cole. Someone
here is going to win a World Series in what
could be his last game with that team before free agency,
and someone else is gonna lose it. You can even
put Strasberg in that category. Of course, he hasn't opt
out in his contract as well, so you've got a
lot of different legacy questions at stake. And then I
would say the Astros as an organization really fit that
(22:05):
category because if they win it, then okay, you've won
two and three years and you've got this this this
really firm footprint on the end of the decade as
being the team of the latter years of this decade.
But if you don't win, then what do you have
to show for the twenty tents. You've got the nineteenth
best record, only nineteenth out of thirty teams in the
regular season over the decade because of how bad those
(22:27):
first years were, and one championship, two championships sounds a
lot different than one. It's certainly much more than you
would think, and I really believe a lot is at
stake tonight for the Houston Astro John John Morossi, Fox
MLB Insider, joining the Eye Couple, John you mentioned free agency.
I don't want to, you know, get ahead of the
game too far, but is it fair to argue that,
(22:50):
you know, you talked about Strasburg. Obviously he's become this great,
big game pitcher. Could he be the bigger free agent
on the market, bigger than Cole this summer or this offseason? Yeah,
at an excellent question, Chris. I think that for some
they may view him that wedding. Cole has probably the advantage.
(23:11):
Of course, he has not had the Tommy John surgery
that Strasbourg has h And I also think, Chris that
from just kind of talking to people around the situation,
Cole is someone who would go anywhere. Garrett Cole would
would sign with any team. I'm not saying it's necessarily
going to sign with the with the biggest contract, but
(23:31):
he will be very open minded, I believe, and is
not going to be restricted to what's Ben said, Oh
he's going to sign with the West Coast. I'm not
buying that. So he could sign with the Montreal x Balls.
Why not go back to the future. Whereas with Strasburg, guys,
he really seems to like his comfort zone and there
are some that believe all well, Strasburg wants to go
(23:53):
back he was from San Diego, wants to go back home.
I'm not convinced to that. I think that for someone
who is who is a noted introverts as Strasburg is
and is open talking about that, likes to kind of
keep to himself, I'm not sure that going back home
is the best place to go. Sometimes that is the
worst place to go. And well, we know all examples
(24:15):
of different sports of guys who went home thinking it
was the right thing. And there's so many distractions that
got your third grade teacher asking for tickets. It's it's complicated,
and so I think Strasbourg, I think that all things
being equal, guys, the way that he's pitched this year,
the cover level he's got now in DC, I think Strasburg,
whether he opts out and resigns there, just doesn't op
(24:36):
that at all. I think that he probably ends up
staying in DC, and as a result, maybe the money
won't quite be as exhorbited as it's going to be
for Garrett cole John. Last thing, we only got about
forty five seconds. The thing about the Nationals that that
I think would make fans feel confident about them. They're
four and known elimination games, so they win when the
(24:59):
pruss is on. And they've trailed in all four of
those games and won all four. So they've been down,
you know, and and they don't give up. Is that
a trip? You don't see that that often, especially in
this situation where you're playing on the road. You're right,
And and Rob, I give a lot of credit for
for building a team concept very quickly. Of course, they
(25:19):
lost Bryce Harper during the course of the wintertime and
they had to rEFInd their identity and they did that
and it almost cost Dave Martinez his job earlier in
the year, but they found it. They've clicked. Uh. And
you're absolutely right, dude. There was going to be adversity
for them tonight at some point in time. And what
they have proven to us this month is they are
not phased by that in the least. And if you
(25:39):
want to pick the Nationals based on that, I think
it's a pretty good projection right now, Rob, based on
the way they've played here in this postseason. Are you
ject real quick? You got who you got real quick?
So I just said, so I gotta go with the Nationals.
You know, for a while I thought the Astros, We're
gonna win this series. But I'm going with a momentum
right now and in a bit of an underdog story there,
Nationals win the World Series tonight
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