January 24, 2020 • 30 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain why LeBron James passing (or being about to pass) Kobe Bryant on the NBA's All-time scoring list proves once and for all that LeBron is a better player than Kobe, discuss whether or not Dallas Keuchel's apology for the Houston Astros cheating scandal is a sign of things to come, and explain why it's completely understandable that Pro Bowl-level players don't want to play for Bill Belichick.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Lebron James will
likely pass Kobe Bryant as the third leading scorer in
NBA history. Only needs eighteen points right to pass passing. Yeah,
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eighteen points and this is huge to me. The game's tomorrow,
I'm sorry. Yeah, they play Philadelphia tomorrow. They're on that
East coast trip, just finishing up a back to back
with the New York teams. But I think this is
huge because Kobe the debate and you talked about it
earlier this morning. I believe we were talking about it.
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Rob the commercials, remember they used to run the commercials
with the puppets right for Nike about Lebron and and
Kobe and they're gonna meet in the finals. They were
they were salivating over that. It looked like it was
a collision course and Orlando came out. And uh, I
always remember that one because I think Skipping I on
the old network were the only two picked Orlando, and
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that picked Orlando, so you know, so did Skipp of course,
but I did picked Orlando. I liked I just liked
their team and a bad matchup for clear right and
Cleon won sixty six games. Ye, but Turker Glue, Uh
who else did the skipped to Malu to lou with
sear Lewis. I mean they were they were a good
team put together, they worked well together, and the White
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and post absolutely Eveland had no answer. Yeah, that was
I covered that series for ESPN. I don't remember how
many games, how many games that six games? I mean
Lebron was ridiculous. His numbers were like thirty eight, nine
and eight or something like that. But he it was.
It was just a matchup. They had no answer for
dwighte But anyway, they never ended up meeting in the finals.
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Of course, Kobe and Lebron, but there's kind of that
debate about who was the better player. I think most pundits,
including both of us, think that Lebron was better. I don't.
I think Kobe is an all time great ten top
ten player of all time, but I don't think it's
particularly cult close between him and Lebron. And I think
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when Lebron passes him, if by some chance it's not tonight,
it'll certainly be or not tomorrow, it will certainly be
their next game. I think that kind of is just
one more reason that Lebron is clearly better because Kobe
was known primarily as a score. I only say primarily
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because he was also a great defender in his prime,
but offensively, he was a pure, pure blooded score period,
and Lebron, who's known as more of an all around player,
Gonna get you involved, gonna pass the ball, he will
give up the big shot to somebody else. No, he's yeah,
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he's done that. But he's about to pass Kobe in
Kobe's specialty. And Lebron's also eighth on the on the
all time list and assist and gonna probably get higher.
And so I think this is just one more example
of why a lot of people have Lebron ahead of Kobe.
But we always talked about this rob kind of off
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the air. It's interesting that most ex players I've talked
to and it's not you know, fifty of them, but
you know they would take Kobe in the hard They've
told me they why is it Kobe ever in the debate?
Why is it always Jordan Lebron? What about Kobe and
a lot of them. Yeah, they would take Kobe. And
what it typically boils down to is they just say
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Kobe was a flat out killer, right. But the reason
that Kobe isn't in that conversation. And I know he
has five championships more than Lebron, but you can't discount
the Shack factor, right, And Shack was the most dominant player.
And you could say, oh, oh, you know, because I
hear people saying, well, I'll go look at Kobe number
they were about equals. No, no, no, it Shack was
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the most dominant player in the league. And it doesn't
mean that Kobe was a bomb or a squab, right,
I mean he they were like one year Shack, they
both were around twenty nine point three one of those years.
But but he but he had a player of that
caliber as his, as his Robbin batman, whatever you want
to call those guys. And I think that's why when
people look it's just a little different. I don't think
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and Kobe even knew that. Like when when it came
pushed to shove and he could get shot out of town,
he knew he can never get like he if he
just won those three and they were with Shack, or
he won more and they were with Shaq, he never
get his personal Shane. He knew he had to win
without Shack. And that's why they went through that little
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process having some bad teams and then finally they had
to go get power Gasol because he needed somebody. And
you know, that's a great point. And I say that
about Jordan, who we both and most people, at least
most people of our generation certainly think Jordan is the
goat if he had had a shock. Because Jordan was
a team player. Even though he was you know, he
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liked his numbers and wanted to do his thing and
be the star at North Carolina, nobody knew he was
gonna be that good. He was a team player, nobody,
I'm sorry, as good as he was now here you
ever here when he got drafted, and this just told
you about where the NBA was in the difference when
he got drafted in Chicago, when he got off the
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plane to go to Chicago, nobody there from the Bulls
to meet him hopping a cab and go to Chicago
Stadium nineteen eighty four. Think about that, that that nobody's
there at the airport. That would never happen a private plane,
you know what I mean, dude, but nobody they like,
get in a cab and take it off. Get over here,
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rookie Chicago Stadium, get in a cab. That's true. That's
how much it's grown. And but had Jordan gone to
a team rob with a shock, he would not be
known as the goat. Now he might have maybe to
have more rings, but he wouldn't be known as the goat.
He got to do it on his own, and wow,
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did he do it on his own, you know, with
the six titles. But that helped him, you know, becoming
and so that's where Kobe is. But yeah, I just
think that Lebron Lebron now. And one reason I said
this last year even one reason Lebron and I don't
fault him for this. I actually like the fact that
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Lebron is respecting the regular season and really playing hard
like you should, Like Michael Jordan didn't know you should
what you should do. It's your job. My only my
only thing is and I agree with that. I'm not
gonna ever knock a guy for playing, but at year seventeen,
you just gotta like pace yourself somewhat well, and because
you don't want to be burnt out at the end.
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He's only he's averaging I believe a career low minutes,
but compared minutes are weighed down, right, you got superstars
averaging thirty thirty three minutes a game now. But I
think Lebron, we know he's concerned, whether he admits it
or not, he's concerned about the goat. If he's called
himself to goat. After they remember in this more than
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an athlete you know segment he said when they beat
Golden State, that made him the greatest ever um. And
then there was the story a year or two before
that when he was at a basketball camp where it's
illustrated reported and he said to the kids, I'm chasing
that ghost in Chicago, right, That's all that's left to do.
And so it's on his mind, which just makes sense.
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I mean, every athlete wants to be the best, but
I think he recognizes there's no way I can. Even
if he were to win six which you know, he's unrealistic.
To be honest, if he were to win six, he
still lost six. Right. I just he can't top Jordan
in terms of the championships, but what he can do
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is the numbers. Right, But even is the Hank Aaron.
Now I'm not both of them are all time superstars,
but Hank Aaron was longevity. He never hit did he
ever hit fifty ever hit fifty home runs? And that
was the incredible thing. But again, he played twenty four years.
I always say that when you look at his numbers,
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because they really are impressive. You take away to seven
hundred and fifty five home runs, he still has three
thousand hit right, he batted over three hundred. He batted
three h five for twenty four years and average one
hundred RBIs through a twenty four years season. So you know,
normally when you first start out, you're rookie, you don't
do that well. At the end of the last four years,
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you fade, so those numbers get skewed, you know what
I'm saying. For him to average one hundred RBIs for
twenty four years, no, it's incredible. I don't think it'll
ever be done. And I actually think that's a that's
a fairly good comparison with Lebron because you look at
Lebron's numbers, they're crazy, right, and he's gonna have this
incredible longevity, And I think that he's looking at that
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as that's my argument, the longevity, and I'm gonna be
first or second on the all time scoring list, maybe
in the top five, but certainly the top six or
seven and assist. Nobody's ever been in the top ten
in both. So I think he's, you know, out there
playing seriously every night and they only enough numbers, and
I got no problem with it. The only thing is
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I think that really derails him is that Jordan was perfect.
We know what I'm saying, Like seriously, like that can
you point to you can't? You can't. And then when
whenever they bring up that and they talk about Jordan
whatever the other problem that we talk about it, it's
not like that's all Jordan never did was win six,
you know, the ten scoring championships in a row, you know,
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and and all that kind of state the league and
steals I think three times, yes, and defensive player and
like it wasn't just six championships. I mean, he has
all the other things that you would want to have
absolutely absolutely, and every other player, even every other all
time great, there's something we nitpick and we're something we
can pick and say, well, he didn't do this. There's
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really nothing with Jordan. Nothing that's the difference. Be sure
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Oh and that no, let's move over to MLB. And
we've been talking about the cheating scandal that just won't
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go away, and there's been a lot of debate. Should
you know the astros Josel two Day's got bold about it. Hey,
MLB did their invest the game, nothing happened right it,
we're you know, we're we're clean. But then the owner said,
Jim Crane, that the players should apologize. And then and
then what did Scott Barrows say that they shouldn't right right?
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That it was an organizational when it came from the
front office, And and that's something players can hide behind.
It is because they didn't stop it right right after
they knew what was going on. But the first player
the first Houston Astros player. Now now he's with the
different team with the White Sox now, right, But Dallas Kikeel,
who played seven years or so first first, he was
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a big time picture for them. He was there in
twenty seventeen with the Astros. He came out and sort
of apologize here he is Dallas Ki gonna go into
specific detail, but during the course of the playoffs in seventeen,
everybody was using multiple signs for factual purposes when there's
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nobody on on base. When in the history of Major
League Baseball has there have been multiple signs. You can
go back and watch film of every team in the playoffs.
There was probably six out of eight teams. He's a
multiple science. So it's it's just what the state of
baseball was at that point in time. Was it against
the rules, Yes, it was. I personally am sorry for
what's come about the whole situation, but it is what
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it is, and we got to move past that. You
know what, even though he didn't get really specific, I
give him some credit for that. Now he didn't have
to say that, right, I give him that. And the
other thing is you could talk about what other people
were doing. He acknowledges that wasn't against the rules. He
knows that what they did was wrong. And for these
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other players and Chris when spring training starts, there's nowherey
gonna get around it. You know, if every national writers,
everybody will be at Houston's free training and get to
the bottom of it. What did you know? Hey, justin Verland?
What did you know? Were you involved? How could you
accept this? You know, you better get ready for those
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questions because you know, didn't you at one time think
and then did you participate? You want to know whether
you people gonna ask if people participated. It's going to
be something. You know, jerseys were you know, the home?
How come he's driving his jersey? Did you knew what
was going on? Why would he do that? There's all
kinds of stuff, But I do give Kaiko, I'm with
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you some credit to at least acknowledge and apologize and
say was it right? No? It wasn't you know? It
was it against the rules? Yes? It was. Here's the
interesting thing, he said, six of six, six out of
eight playoff teams were using multiple signs. They knew, they
knew what the Astros were doing. Now they may not
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have known the extent and how technologically advanced it was.
But they knew something was going on in that ballpark,
the one hundred percent, because we talked about it. The Dodgers,
Rich Hill changes signs every inning, Chris, every inning went
out there was something different because he just didn't believe
in what was going on there. The Yankees complained to
the high heavens. You remember that Yankees couldn't win the
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game and Houston right right. So So here's the thing, Rob,
how could baseball not have gotten any whiff of what's
going on? They had to hear this should have been
this should have been an investigation before. Mike. Yes, but
it's only again we talked about it. If the media
doesn't put it out there and break the story, we
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wouldn't know a thing about. This is for the people
who always are ripping on the media. And I get
we're flawed, Chris. We're not perfect. We make mistakes. There's
some bad medium reporters amongst us, like any other business.
They're bad doctors, bad bankers, right, and the bad bus drivers.
We know that. But you would be afraid to live
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in this world without reporters and without because that's one
of the benefits of America. It really is the free
press that we're able to dig and get at stories
and get information and break these stories. Some of the
biggest things that have ever been broke, you know, changed
the country and change what's going on and looking out
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for the little man have come from the media, free press,
no question. Stop bashing the media, my man. I'm telling you.
The other thing that's interesting about Kaiko. He didn't say, hey,
there are several teams doing this. I mean, look, we
got caught, we were wrong, right, But believe me, he
could have tried, he could have dropped on right, and
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he didn't at all. And I think that if if,
if that's the cases we've heard recent reports and we've
heard people talk about how this is more widespread. Hopefully
it isn't. Well, the big thing is because and this
is what we'll find out when the Boston Hammers dropped.
But the but the Alex Cora connection, right, you know
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what I mean, That's why if I'm baseball and I
find out that Alice Cora, you know, started this thing
in Houston and it worked, got his own gig in
Boston and it worked. Because we told you the numbers
in Boston career high. I mean, franchise record, right for wins,
one hundred and eight, all those numbers, Mookie bets right,
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all incredible, j D. Martinez, they all had unbelievable years.
And remember off the year after, right, and if you
should go back to what you called, think about this
that year when they won Red Sox, they beat Houston,
the Yankees and the Dodgers all three very easily. Very
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they went through the best team. They ran through the
best teams in the league. No, that's true. And you
know what, and I hope this Look, if it's true,
then it needs to be exposed. But they can easily
use Alex Core as a scapegoat. They can and be like, look,
this was one guy who put together this system and
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these two teams, right, and it marred the game. That's
why I think if they really find him guilty in
this as well, I think he could face a life
time band And you could always against that. All right, Yeah,
it's hard to I mean, you you impacted the World Series.
You you you you you put a stain on the sport.
You absolutely did, whether they vacate them or not, Chris.
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People don't look at the Astros the same way. I don't.
I don't see how you can. That's what you brought
it up earlier. Spring training is gonna be so interesting,
so interesting to see how they handle it. And we
talked about, you know, earlier this morning on the Dan
Patrick Show. Should the players apologize? And uh, I think
they certainly should. Yeah, Dallas, Kiko's done it. Um. But
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here's the thing. If you get more like, what if
six players come out here and basically the whole team
everybody has asked about it just corroborates to yeah, we
we did it. Maybe a few give a few more
specifics or whatever. Well they'll be looking for. That's what
they're trying to get it. Just how like, how did this?
Where did this come from? Why didn't other players who
maybe Chris they'll probably Christian value or or or or
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integrity did went along with it. I'm saying it because
the clubhouse was filled with all kinds of different people,
and I'm sure that some people are like, dude, I'm not.
I don't feel comfortable with this at all. Everybody ain't
always on board with everything. So we we talked about
that yesterday. How would you feel about and it's a
look players in a tough situation because you're part of
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a team. Feel about the guy because you always say,
you know, if you don't blow the whistle, then you're
just as bad as bad. How you How would you
feel about the guy who was like, look, man, y'all,
I don't agree with this. I'm turning a blind eye
to it. Don't don't do it for me. I don't
want to know who's doing it. I don't want to
know anything about it. I'm not gonna rat on you guys,
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but I'm not participating. I'm not participating. How would you
feel about that? Yeah, I understand you're in the team situation.
It's put it's pretty tough. But I would I always say,
and I the one that always gets me. And we
talked about before the Blue Wall with the police, right,
and if I was a cop, I'm just saying, and
I I saw somebody do something bad, like like do
something to somebody that just the guy didn't do anything,
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or they tried to plant something. I could. I know
I wouldn't be a I wouldn't be a cop because
I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm telling you,
I would not be able to like my I got
a bad a badass partner and he's roughing up people,
or he's doing stuff, or you know, like putting this
young kid in the system and he ain't doing anything.
I just couldn't turn my head to that. I totally agree.
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And and look, I think for us as African Americans,
and we know the history of police and African Americans,
that's a big There's no way I could do that.
But it goes on. Even if it was nine black, right,
you gonna go for it either. I in that situation,
I'm definitely breaking the cold. I'm breaking the code, the
code because it's just not fair. You ruin in people's
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lives and and take care of the bad people, right,
That's what I'm saying. I'm not take care of bad people.
But but to do that to somebody and wreck their life, basically,
it's not I couldn't sleep with myself. Now. What something
what a player might argue is that's life for death.
This is a game, and I it's But if you
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have a moral fiber, as if there's something about you, Chris,
and you're not into uh, you know, there's people who
have values or whatnot, and they don't want to do
it that way. They don't. They don't want to cheat,
and they don't believe in that. You know, they do
it all the time. They do uh stings. I'm going
back to the police because you know, I have a
lot of cops in my family. My brothers an FBI agent.
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This where you come into a they set up a
scene in like an apartment, right, you come in or whatever,
and supposedly you're arresting these guys who are drug dealers
or whatever. And there's all this money on the table
and they and they got it all set up with camera.
You don't even know it's a sting. You think it's
a real arrest. And there's money there, Yeah, and they
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want to see they know it's three hundred and thirty
nine thousand dollars on the table. How much you and
your partner you're ops. If you take each take fifty
thousand and returning two forty nine, how do they die? Right?
That's what they do, right? And then and then you
gotta come in Chris with well, here's what we took
his evidence. He's two hundred and four. They know you
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you stole a hundred. Well look at look at a
lot of the ankran Bolden. You know who started the
Players Coalition in NFL. He had his cousin, well it
was either cousin or nephew, was shot buying under an
undercover policeman. Totally unfair. His brother was stopped on the
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side of or his cousins side of the road and
waiting for it. He was on the right, right, right,
and and undercover policeman pulled up in an unmarked car,
gets out of the car and shoots him. And the
only way that he got He was the first policeman
convicted of a situation like that in thirty years in Florida.
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All the reason it was was because he was on
roadside assistant, so the cop didn't know the phone was
on right and they heard everything that went down, and
that's why he was convicted. Right, But think it's almost
would have written up. You know, the guy pulled a
gun on me or I was in fear for my life, right,
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and that's what it goes off. Be sure to catch
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the deal. They're at the Pro Bowl. There was a
story in the Athletic, Uh, it's in the Orlando this year,
and anonymous Pro bowlers apparently kind of don't want to
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play for Bill Belichick. So twenty three players, well a
lot of players were questioned, uh, presumably by the Athletic
with several questions about which coach they most like to
play for. Twenty three answered four or said Andy Reid
for said Pete Carroll. And one person only one out
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of twenty three Pro Bowlers, twenty three of the best
players in the world, said Bill Belichick. And that was
the same as Cliff Cliff Kingsbury, Cha McVay, Bill O'Brien,
Sean Payton, Frank Reich and Joe Judge. My goodness, Joe Judge. Wow.
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So this is maybe this is the gist of the matter.
Rob Remember last year, Lane Johnson, there's a the image
of the reputation around the league is that the Patriots
don't have fun. We talked about this on Undisputed last
year with Greg Jenny's when we co hosted, which we'll
be doing again a week aufter the shift of the
Super Bowl. Right, and here's what Lane Johnson has said
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about the Patriots I just think that the Patriot Way
is a fear based organization. Obviously, do they win, Hell, yes,
they win. They've won for a long time. Do I
think people enjoy and can say I have a lot
of fun playing there, No, I don't. That's just the guy.
That's honest. Truth. They're successful, but when they go to
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interviews they act like robots. Hey, stop being a expletive.
We can be cordial for a little bit. You only
get to do this job one time, so let's have
fun while we're doing it. Not to be reckless, but
we much rather have fun and win a super Bowl
than be miserable and win five super Bowls. But hey,
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it is what it is. You went lane, Yes, and
I'll give you another reason why I rather have one
super Bowl, mister, anybody can win one. No, But I
think I think it's point is that it's not like
nobody wants to be under like a fear based situation.
You want to be at a game, you want to
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have some fun, you want to enjoy it. Want it
to be that, not like I'm walking around on eggshells.
If I'm speak, I'm gonna be cut. If I don't
do this, it's gonna I'm like, uh, who does the
guy he benched because he had a right before the
Super Bowl? Malcolm Malcolm Jenkins wasn't it was Malcolm Not No, no,
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Malcolm Butler. But remember he got benched today and that
players don't even know why. Players are still saying that
to this day, like we don't know what he did
or why he didn't play in the Super Bowl. So
it's like a fear based thing. And here's the other part.
And I'm not saying that that this is totally it,
but the other thing about Bill Belichick is he doesn't
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take care of his players, like money wise. Don't you
think that that that factors. Here's Tom Brady twenty years later,
Chris six super bowls, even if some of them were lucky,
six super Bowl Blowls, and he's still asking to be
paid like he deserves. Like, think about that. So don't
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think they be a bigger factor than the fear, don't
you think? Yeah? So here's where I'm at. Their degrees
to everything. If it's run like a prison up in
New England, then no, I'm a grown man. I don't
want to be in that. But if there's there's degrees, okay,
they may not have as much fun as they have
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in Philadelphia. There may be certain rules you have to
adhere to, but it's not like it's horrific, like I
can't enjoy myself at all. I've talked to former Patriot
players and off the air, and they've said, look, we
have fun. Now. It's a little different, you know than
some other places. Maybe, but I can deal with a
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certain degree of discipline if we're going to win, and
that's where so I don't think it's that bad, right.
I think what you said about the money. How many
stars have they shipped out before they had to pay them? Plenty,
guys who helped them win Super Bowl? I think maybe.
But I played Look obviously I didn't play professional sports,
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but just playing high school, in basketball, in college. I
don't ever remember, even as a kid and a teenager,
going into any season thinking like with with fun on
my mind. I mean, sports is fun. I enjoyed playing,
but I wasn't consciously thinking am I having fun? Are
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we having fun? But do you remember the times when
you had a bad coach and you're like this, dude,
I can't you had bad but but the issue was
never fun? Is this fun? It was? I don't think
he's doing the right thing. I don't think we have
the right system. Um right, it wasn't I just and again,
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you you wanna have fun, but it's your job. I mean,
do you we have a fun job. We were very fortunate,
we're in a unique situation. But how many people really
go to work thinking, I want to have fun. It's
your job. It's how you pay the bills. No, I
get that. But there's a game though, and that's situation.
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I get it. If you work at the at the
gas company, you don't expect to goin and and expect
like a fun day. Or you're delivering mail right or
sorting packages, you're like like, oh wow. And I'm sure though,
Rob in the locker room and the Patriots dudes are
joking around, teasing each other, you know, cracking on each other. Now,
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I can't imagine it's just that bad where I wouldn't
want to win five Super Bowls bad? Well, well, but
but for for the Pro bowlers, the best of the best.
To say they don't want to play for him says
a lot. It does, because I'm not sure what it
doesn't say that they don't want to win. Now, look,
I'm gonna flip it a little because there's several sides. Obviously,
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if you're a player, like I said, it's your job
and I want my money and I want to be
enjoy it. Well maybe, but I want my money. But
maybe the money thing is like the reason that they
don't want to play here. It's gotta have some effect
because I do think rob the look and maybe we've
helped in this regard, helped or hurt whatever you want
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to say about it. But we in the media really
emphasized rings championships, right, we really do. But I believe
there's players players do too. They but I think there's
something that are like, man, look if I get a ring,
I want to ring. When you watch it's not gonna
kill me if I don't get when I was a
great player, but when you watch millions, when you watch
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Inside the NBA and ever, and that's Shacks trump card
to Barkley all the time. Barkley is that was a
great player, top fifty of all time. He's one of
the biggest sports analysts on television, bigger than Shock and
all the other stuff. And that's still a cryptonite, do
you know what I mean? So it just did see
Here's the interesting thing though, I think it matters more
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superstars because they get just yea, the average role player
not on a d I'm trying to get money right
and nobody right. But they don't say how many rings right.
They don't go like, oh yeah, I was on the
uh I was on the heat with Lebron and the
Big three and I got four three two rings? Oh yeah,
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right right, no one even remembered you even on the tail.
Look at KCP. He doesn't but he didn't have a ring.
Can take his call with him, but it does help.
When we announced Eddie House, what do we call him?
NBA champion and he can help you in this business,
can't help you get jobs and uh CP, KCP has
more names than championships, right, because three times his medal
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was still a bad job. Sorry about that,
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Lebron James will
likely pass Kobe Bryant as the third leading scorer in
NBA history. Only needs eighteen points right to pass passing. Yeah,
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eighteen points and this is huge to me. The game's tomorrow,
I'm sorry. Yeah, they play Philadelphia tomorrow. They're on that
East coast trip, just finishing up a back to back
with the New York teams. But I think this is
huge because Kobe the debate and you talked about it
earlier this morning. I believe we were talking about it.
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Rob the commercials, remember they used to run the commercials
with the puppets right for Nike about Lebron and and
Kobe and they're gonna meet in the finals. They were
they were salivating over that. It looked like it was
a collision course and Orlando came out. And uh, I
always remember that one because I think Skipping I on
the old network were the only two picked Orlando, and
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that picked Orlando, so you know, so did Skipp of course,
but I did picked Orlando. I liked I just liked
their team and a bad matchup for clear right and
Cleon won sixty six games. Ye, but Turker Glue, Uh
who else did the skipped to Malu to lou with
sear Lewis. I mean they were they were a good
team put together, they worked well together, and the White
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and post absolutely Eveland had no answer. Yeah, that was
I covered that series for ESPN. I don't remember how
many games, how many games that six games? I mean
Lebron was ridiculous. His numbers were like thirty eight, nine
and eight or something like that. But he it was.
It was just a matchup. They had no answer for
dwighte But anyway, they never ended up meeting in the finals.
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Of course, Kobe and Lebron, but there's kind of that
debate about who was the better player. I think most pundits,
including both of us, think that Lebron was better. I don't.
I think Kobe is an all time great ten top
ten player of all time, but I don't think it's
particularly cult close between him and Lebron. And I think
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when Lebron passes him, if by some chance it's not tonight,
it'll certainly be or not tomorrow, it will certainly be
their next game. I think that kind of is just
one more reason that Lebron is clearly better because Kobe
was known primarily as a score. I only say primarily
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because he was also a great defender in his prime,
but offensively, he was a pure, pure blooded score period,
and Lebron, who's known as more of an all around player,
Gonna get you involved, gonna pass the ball, he will
give up the big shot to somebody else. No, he's yeah,
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he's done that. But he's about to pass Kobe in
Kobe's specialty. And Lebron's also eighth on the on the
all time list and assist and gonna probably get higher.
And so I think this is just one more example
of why a lot of people have Lebron ahead of Kobe.
But we always talked about this rob kind of off
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the air. It's interesting that most ex players I've talked
to and it's not you know, fifty of them, but
you know they would take Kobe in the hard They've
told me they why is it Kobe ever in the debate?
Why is it always Jordan Lebron? What about Kobe and
a lot of them. Yeah, they would take Kobe. And
what it typically boils down to is they just say
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Kobe was a flat out killer, right. But the reason
that Kobe isn't in that conversation. And I know he
has five championships more than Lebron, but you can't discount
the Shack factor, right, And Shack was the most dominant player.
And you could say, oh, oh, you know, because I
hear people saying, well, I'll go look at Kobe number
they were about equals. No, no, no, it Shack was
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the most dominant player in the league. And it doesn't
mean that Kobe was a bomb or a squab, right,
I mean he they were like one year Shack, they
both were around twenty nine point three one of those years.
But but he but he had a player of that
caliber as his, as his Robbin batman, whatever you want
to call those guys. And I think that's why when
people look it's just a little different. I don't think
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and Kobe even knew that. Like when when it came
pushed to shove and he could get shot out of town,
he knew he can never get like he if he
just won those three and they were with Shack, or
he won more and they were with Shaq, he never
get his personal Shane. He knew he had to win
without Shack. And that's why they went through that little
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process having some bad teams and then finally they had
to go get power Gasol because he needed somebody. And
you know, that's a great point. And I say that
about Jordan, who we both and most people, at least
most people of our generation certainly think Jordan is the
goat if he had had a shock. Because Jordan was
a team player. Even though he was you know, he
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liked his numbers and wanted to do his thing and
be the star at North Carolina, nobody knew he was
gonna be that good. He was a team player, nobody,
I'm sorry, as good as he was now here you
ever here when he got drafted, and this just told
you about where the NBA was in the difference when
he got drafted in Chicago, when he got off the
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plane to go to Chicago, nobody there from the Bulls
to meet him hopping a cab and go to Chicago
Stadium nineteen eighty four. Think about that, that that nobody's
there at the airport. That would never happen a private plane,
you know what I mean, dude, but nobody they like,
get in a cab and take it off. Get over here,
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rookie Chicago Stadium, get in a cab. That's true. That's
how much it's grown. And but had Jordan gone to
a team rob with a shock, he would not be
known as the goat. Now he might have maybe to
have more rings, but he wouldn't be known as the goat.
He got to do it on his own, and wow,
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did he do it on his own, you know, with
the six titles. But that helped him, you know, becoming
and so that's where Kobe is. But yeah, I just
think that Lebron Lebron now. And one reason I said
this last year even one reason Lebron and I don't
fault him for this. I actually like the fact that
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Lebron is respecting the regular season and really playing hard
like you should, Like Michael Jordan didn't know you should
what you should do. It's your job. My only my
only thing is and I agree with that. I'm not
gonna ever knock a guy for playing, but at year seventeen,
you just gotta like pace yourself somewhat well, and because
you don't want to be burnt out at the end.
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He's only he's averaging I believe a career low minutes,
but compared minutes are weighed down, right, you got superstars
averaging thirty thirty three minutes a game now. But I
think Lebron, we know he's concerned, whether he admits it
or not, he's concerned about the goat. If he's called
himself to goat. After they remember in this more than
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an athlete you know segment he said when they beat
Golden State, that made him the greatest ever um. And
then there was the story a year or two before
that when he was at a basketball camp where it's
illustrated reported and he said to the kids, I'm chasing
that ghost in Chicago, right, That's all that's left to do.
And so it's on his mind, which just makes sense.
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I mean, every athlete wants to be the best, but
I think he recognizes there's no way I can. Even
if he were to win six which you know, he's unrealistic.
To be honest, if he were to win six, he
still lost six. Right. I just he can't top Jordan
in terms of the championships, but what he can do
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is the numbers. Right, But even is the Hank Aaron.
Now I'm not both of them are all time superstars,
but Hank Aaron was longevity. He never hit did he
ever hit fifty ever hit fifty home runs? And that
was the incredible thing. But again, he played twenty four years.
I always say that when you look at his numbers,
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because they really are impressive. You take away to seven
hundred and fifty five home runs, he still has three
thousand hit right, he batted over three hundred. He batted
three h five for twenty four years and average one
hundred RBIs through a twenty four years season. So you know,
normally when you first start out, you're rookie, you don't
do that well. At the end of the last four years,
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you fade, so those numbers get skewed, you know what
I'm saying. For him to average one hundred RBIs for
twenty four years, no, it's incredible. I don't think it'll
ever be done. And I actually think that's a that's
a fairly good comparison with Lebron because you look at
Lebron's numbers, they're crazy, right, and he's gonna have this
incredible longevity, And I think that he's looking at that
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as that's my argument, the longevity, and I'm gonna be
first or second on the all time scoring list, maybe
in the top five, but certainly the top six or
seven and assist. Nobody's ever been in the top ten
in both. So I think he's, you know, out there
playing seriously every night and they only enough numbers, and
I got no problem with it. The only thing is
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I think that really derails him is that Jordan was perfect.
We know what I'm saying, Like seriously, like that can
you point to you can't? You can't. And then when
whenever they bring up that and they talk about Jordan
whatever the other problem that we talk about it, it's
not like that's all Jordan never did was win six,
you know, the ten scoring championships in a row, you know,
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and and all that kind of state the league and
steals I think three times, yes, and defensive player and
like it wasn't just six championships. I mean, he has
all the other things that you would want to have
absolutely absolutely, and every other player, even every other all
time great, there's something we nitpick and we're something we
can pick and say, well, he didn't do this. There's
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really nothing with Jordan. Nothing that's the difference. Be sure
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Oh and that no, let's move over to MLB. And
we've been talking about the cheating scandal that just won't
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go away, and there's been a lot of debate. Should
you know the astros Josel two Day's got bold about it. Hey,
MLB did their invest the game, nothing happened right it,
we're you know, we're we're clean. But then the owner said,
Jim Crane, that the players should apologize. And then and
then what did Scott Barrows say that they shouldn't right right?
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That it was an organizational when it came from the
front office, And and that's something players can hide behind.
It is because they didn't stop it right right after
they knew what was going on. But the first player
the first Houston Astros player. Now now he's with the
different team with the White Sox now, right, But Dallas Kikeel,
who played seven years or so first first, he was
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a big time picture for them. He was there in
twenty seventeen with the Astros. He came out and sort
of apologize here he is Dallas Ki gonna go into
specific detail, but during the course of the playoffs in seventeen,
everybody was using multiple signs for factual purposes when there's
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nobody on on base. When in the history of Major
League Baseball has there have been multiple signs. You can
go back and watch film of every team in the playoffs.
There was probably six out of eight teams. He's a
multiple science. So it's it's just what the state of
baseball was at that point in time. Was it against
the rules, Yes, it was. I personally am sorry for
what's come about the whole situation, but it is what
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it is, and we got to move past that. You
know what, even though he didn't get really specific, I
give him some credit for that. Now he didn't have
to say that, right, I give him that. And the
other thing is you could talk about what other people
were doing. He acknowledges that wasn't against the rules. He
knows that what they did was wrong. And for these
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other players and Chris when spring training starts, there's nowherey
gonna get around it. You know, if every national writers,
everybody will be at Houston's free training and get to
the bottom of it. What did you know? Hey, justin Verland?
What did you know? Were you involved? How could you
accept this? You know, you better get ready for those
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questions because you know, didn't you at one time think
and then did you participate? You want to know whether
you people gonna ask if people participated. It's going to
be something. You know, jerseys were you know, the home?
How come he's driving his jersey? Did you knew what
was going on? Why would he do that? There's all
kinds of stuff, But I do give Kaiko, I'm with
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you some credit to at least acknowledge and apologize and
say was it right? No? It wasn't you know? It
was it against the rules? Yes? It was. Here's the
interesting thing, he said, six of six, six out of
eight playoff teams were using multiple signs. They knew, they
knew what the Astros were doing. Now they may not
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have known the extent and how technologically advanced it was.
But they knew something was going on in that ballpark,
the one hundred percent, because we talked about it. The Dodgers,
Rich Hill changes signs every inning, Chris, every inning went
out there was something different because he just didn't believe
in what was going on there. The Yankees complained to
the high heavens. You remember that Yankees couldn't win the
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game and Houston right right. So So here's the thing, Rob,
how could baseball not have gotten any whiff of what's
going on? They had to hear this should have been
this should have been an investigation before. Mike. Yes, but
it's only again we talked about it. If the media
doesn't put it out there and break the story, we
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wouldn't know a thing about. This is for the people
who always are ripping on the media. And I get
we're flawed, Chris. We're not perfect. We make mistakes. There's
some bad medium reporters amongst us, like any other business.
They're bad doctors, bad bankers, right, and the bad bus drivers.
We know that. But you would be afraid to live
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in this world without reporters and without because that's one
of the benefits of America. It really is the free
press that we're able to dig and get at stories
and get information and break these stories. Some of the
biggest things that have ever been broke, you know, changed
the country and change what's going on and looking out
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for the little man have come from the media, free press,
no question. Stop bashing the media, my man. I'm telling you.
The other thing that's interesting about Kaiko. He didn't say, hey,
there are several teams doing this. I mean, look, we
got caught, we were wrong, right, But believe me, he
could have tried, he could have dropped on right, and
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he didn't at all. And I think that if if,
if that's the cases we've heard recent reports and we've
heard people talk about how this is more widespread. Hopefully
it isn't. Well, the big thing is because and this
is what we'll find out when the Boston Hammers dropped.
But the but the Alex Cora connection, right, you know
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what I mean, That's why if I'm baseball and I
find out that Alice Cora, you know, started this thing
in Houston and it worked, got his own gig in
Boston and it worked. Because we told you the numbers
in Boston career high. I mean, franchise record, right for wins,
one hundred and eight, all those numbers, Mookie bets right,
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all incredible, j D. Martinez, they all had unbelievable years.
And remember off the year after, right, and if you
should go back to what you called, think about this
that year when they won Red Sox, they beat Houston,
the Yankees and the Dodgers all three very easily. Very
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they went through the best team. They ran through the
best teams in the league. No, that's true. And you
know what, and I hope this Look, if it's true,
then it needs to be exposed. But they can easily
use Alex Core as a scapegoat. They can and be like, look,
this was one guy who put together this system and
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these two teams, right, and it marred the game. That's
why I think if they really find him guilty in
this as well, I think he could face a life
time band And you could always against that. All right, Yeah,
it's hard to I mean, you you impacted the World Series.
You you you you you put a stain on the sport.
You absolutely did, whether they vacate them or not, Chris.
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People don't look at the Astros the same way. I don't.
I don't see how you can. That's what you brought
it up earlier. Spring training is gonna be so interesting,
so interesting to see how they handle it. And we
talked about, you know, earlier this morning on the Dan
Patrick Show. Should the players apologize? And uh, I think
they certainly should. Yeah, Dallas, Kiko's done it. Um. But
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here's the thing. If you get more like, what if
six players come out here and basically the whole team
everybody has asked about it just corroborates to yeah, we
we did it. Maybe a few give a few more
specifics or whatever. Well they'll be looking for. That's what
they're trying to get it. Just how like, how did this?
Where did this come from? Why didn't other players who
maybe Chris they'll probably Christian value or or or or
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integrity did went along with it. I'm saying it because
the clubhouse was filled with all kinds of different people,
and I'm sure that some people are like, dude, I'm not.
I don't feel comfortable with this at all. Everybody ain't
always on board with everything. So we we talked about
that yesterday. How would you feel about and it's a
look players in a tough situation because you're part of
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a team. Feel about the guy because you always say,
you know, if you don't blow the whistle, then you're
just as bad as bad. How you How would you
feel about the guy who was like, look, man, y'all,
I don't agree with this. I'm turning a blind eye
to it. Don't don't do it for me. I don't
want to know who's doing it. I don't want to
know anything about it. I'm not gonna rat on you guys,
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but I'm not participating. I'm not participating. How would you
feel about that? Yeah, I understand you're in the team situation.
It's put it's pretty tough. But I would I always say,
and I the one that always gets me. And we
talked about before the Blue Wall with the police, right,
and if I was a cop, I'm just saying, and
I I saw somebody do something bad, like like do
something to somebody that just the guy didn't do anything,
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or they tried to plant something. I could. I know
I wouldn't be a I wouldn't be a cop because
I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm telling you,
I would not be able to like my I got
a bad a badass partner and he's roughing up people,
or he's doing stuff, or you know, like putting this
young kid in the system and he ain't doing anything.
I just couldn't turn my head to that. I totally agree.
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And and look, I think for us as African Americans,
and we know the history of police and African Americans,
that's a big There's no way I could do that.
But it goes on. Even if it was nine black, right,
you gonna go for it either. I in that situation,
I'm definitely breaking the cold. I'm breaking the code, the
code because it's just not fair. You ruin in people's
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lives and and take care of the bad people, right,
That's what I'm saying. I'm not take care of bad people.
But but to do that to somebody and wreck their life, basically,
it's not I couldn't sleep with myself. Now. What something
what a player might argue is that's life for death.
This is a game, and I it's But if you
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have a moral fiber, as if there's something about you, Chris,
and you're not into uh, you know, there's people who
have values or whatnot, and they don't want to do
it that way. They don't. They don't want to cheat,
and they don't believe in that. You know, they do
it all the time. They do uh stings. I'm going
back to the police because you know, I have a
lot of cops in my family. My brothers an FBI agent.
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This where you come into a they set up a
scene in like an apartment, right, you come in or whatever,
and supposedly you're arresting these guys who are drug dealers
or whatever. And there's all this money on the table
and they and they got it all set up with camera.
You don't even know it's a sting. You think it's
a real arrest. And there's money there, Yeah, and they
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want to see they know it's three hundred and thirty
nine thousand dollars on the table. How much you and
your partner you're ops. If you take each take fifty
thousand and returning two forty nine, how do they die? Right?
That's what they do, right? And then and then you
gotta come in Chris with well, here's what we took
his evidence. He's two hundred and four. They know you
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you stole a hundred. Well look at look at a
lot of the ankran Bolden. You know who started the
Players Coalition in NFL. He had his cousin, well it
was either cousin or nephew, was shot buying under an
undercover policeman. Totally unfair. His brother was stopped on the
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side of or his cousins side of the road and
waiting for it. He was on the right, right, right,
and and undercover policeman pulled up in an unmarked car,
gets out of the car and shoots him. And the
only way that he got He was the first policeman
convicted of a situation like that in thirty years in Florida.
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All the reason it was was because he was on
roadside assistant, so the cop didn't know the phone was
on right and they heard everything that went down, and
that's why he was convicted. Right, But think it's almost
would have written up. You know, the guy pulled a
gun on me or I was in fear for my life, right,
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and that's what it goes off. Be sure to catch
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. So here's
the deal. They're at the Pro Bowl. There was a
story in the Athletic, Uh, it's in the Orlando this year,
and anonymous Pro bowlers apparently kind of don't want to
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play for Bill Belichick. So twenty three players, well a
lot of players were questioned, uh, presumably by the Athletic
with several questions about which coach they most like to
play for. Twenty three answered four or said Andy Reid
for said Pete Carroll. And one person only one out
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of twenty three Pro Bowlers, twenty three of the best
players in the world, said Bill Belichick. And that was
the same as Cliff Cliff Kingsbury, Cha McVay, Bill O'Brien,
Sean Payton, Frank Reich and Joe Judge. My goodness, Joe Judge. Wow.
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So this is maybe this is the gist of the matter.
Rob Remember last year, Lane Johnson, there's a the image
of the reputation around the league is that the Patriots
don't have fun. We talked about this on Undisputed last
year with Greg Jenny's when we co hosted, which we'll
be doing again a week aufter the shift of the
Super Bowl. Right, and here's what Lane Johnson has said
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about the Patriots I just think that the Patriot Way
is a fear based organization. Obviously, do they win, Hell, yes,
they win. They've won for a long time. Do I
think people enjoy and can say I have a lot
of fun playing there, No, I don't. That's just the guy.
That's honest. Truth. They're successful, but when they go to
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interviews they act like robots. Hey, stop being a expletive.
We can be cordial for a little bit. You only
get to do this job one time, so let's have
fun while we're doing it. Not to be reckless, but
we much rather have fun and win a super Bowl
than be miserable and win five super Bowls. But hey,
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it is what it is. You went lane, Yes, and
I'll give you another reason why I rather have one
super Bowl, mister, anybody can win one. No, But I
think I think it's point is that it's not like
nobody wants to be under like a fear based situation.
You want to be at a game, you want to
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have some fun, you want to enjoy it. Want it
to be that, not like I'm walking around on eggshells.
If I'm speak, I'm gonna be cut. If I don't
do this, it's gonna I'm like, uh, who does the
guy he benched because he had a right before the
Super Bowl? Malcolm Malcolm Jenkins wasn't it was Malcolm Not No, no,
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Malcolm Butler. But remember he got benched today and that
players don't even know why. Players are still saying that
to this day, like we don't know what he did
or why he didn't play in the Super Bowl. So
it's like a fear based thing. And here's the other part.
And I'm not saying that that this is totally it,
but the other thing about Bill Belichick is he doesn't
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take care of his players, like money wise. Don't you
think that that that factors. Here's Tom Brady twenty years later,
Chris six super bowls, even if some of them were lucky,
six super Bowl Blowls, and he's still asking to be
paid like he deserves. Like, think about that. So don't
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think they be a bigger factor than the fear, don't
you think? Yeah? So here's where I'm at. Their degrees
to everything. If it's run like a prison up in
New England, then no, I'm a grown man. I don't
want to be in that. But if there's there's degrees, okay,
they may not have as much fun as they have
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in Philadelphia. There may be certain rules you have to
adhere to, but it's not like it's horrific, like I
can't enjoy myself at all. I've talked to former Patriot
players and off the air, and they've said, look, we
have fun. Now. It's a little different, you know than
some other places. Maybe, but I can deal with a
(26:38):
certain degree of discipline if we're going to win, and
that's where so I don't think it's that bad, right.
I think what you said about the money. How many
stars have they shipped out before they had to pay them? Plenty,
guys who helped them win Super Bowl? I think maybe.
But I played Look obviously I didn't play professional sports,
(27:00):
but just playing high school, in basketball, in college. I
don't ever remember, even as a kid and a teenager,
going into any season thinking like with with fun on
my mind. I mean, sports is fun. I enjoyed playing,
but I wasn't consciously thinking am I having fun? Are
(27:20):
we having fun? But do you remember the times when
you had a bad coach and you're like this, dude,
I can't you had bad but but the issue was
never fun? Is this fun? It was? I don't think
he's doing the right thing. I don't think we have
the right system. Um right, it wasn't I just and again,
(27:41):
you you wanna have fun, but it's your job. I mean,
do you we have a fun job. We were very fortunate,
we're in a unique situation. But how many people really
go to work thinking, I want to have fun. It's
your job. It's how you pay the bills. No, I
get that. But there's a game though, and that's situation.
(28:01):
I get it. If you work at the at the
gas company, you don't expect to goin and and expect
like a fun day. Or you're delivering mail right or
sorting packages, you're like like, oh wow. And I'm sure though,
Rob in the locker room and the Patriots dudes are
joking around, teasing each other, you know, cracking on each other. Now,
(28:22):
I can't imagine it's just that bad where I wouldn't
want to win five Super Bowls bad? Well, well, but
but for for the Pro bowlers, the best of the best.
To say they don't want to play for him says
a lot. It does, because I'm not sure what it
doesn't say that they don't want to win. Now, look,
I'm gonna flip it a little because there's several sides. Obviously,
(28:43):
if you're a player, like I said, it's your job
and I want my money and I want to be
enjoy it. Well maybe, but I want my money. But
maybe the money thing is like the reason that they
don't want to play here. It's gotta have some effect
because I do think rob the look and maybe we've
helped in this regard, helped or hurt whatever you want
(29:03):
to say about it. But we in the media really
emphasized rings championships, right, we really do. But I believe
there's players players do too. They but I think there's
something that are like, man, look if I get a ring,
I want to ring. When you watch it's not gonna
kill me if I don't get when I was a
great player, but when you watch millions, when you watch
(29:23):
Inside the NBA and ever, and that's Shacks trump card
to Barkley all the time. Barkley is that was a
great player, top fifty of all time. He's one of
the biggest sports analysts on television, bigger than Shock and
all the other stuff. And that's still a cryptonite, do
you know what I mean? So it just did see
Here's the interesting thing though, I think it matters more
(29:45):
superstars because they get just yea, the average role player
not on a d I'm trying to get money right
and nobody right. But they don't say how many rings right.
They don't go like, oh yeah, I was on the
uh I was on the heat with Lebron and the
Big three and I got four three two rings? Oh yeah,
(30:07):
right right, no one even remembered you even on the tail.
Look at KCP. He doesn't but he didn't have a ring.
Can take his call with him, but it does help.
When we announced Eddie House, what do we call him?
NBA champion and he can help you in this business,
can't help you get jobs and uh CP, KCP has
more names than championships, right, because three times his medal
(30:30):
was still a bad job. Sorry about that,
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