February 24, 2020 • 37 mins
It's The Best Of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob get into a heated debate about whether or not LeBron James really 'lives for those moments' in clutch situations, explain why Deontay Wilder could have a hard time bouncing back from his ugly knockout loss to Tyson Fury over the weekend, and discuss their favorite moments from the Kobe Bryant Memorial Ceremony.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the Odd
Cup Off with Chris Brush and Rod Parker. Rob Parker.
Yesterday was one of the better NBA games of the season,
obviously the rivalry of the Los Angeles Lakers Boston Celtic
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beat Xflow. We don't have the number shut I don't know,
but don't, don't, don't. It was a great game, all right,
It was a great game. Jason Jason Tatum forty one
points for the Celtics without Kimba Walker. They played them tough,
but in the end Lebron James sealed the deal. Thirty
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seconds left, backs down, Jalen Brown fakes left, kind of dreamshake, move,
spins to his right, fades away money from about sixteen
seventeen feet and what I liked about that Rod Parker,
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and I've said it in LA for the most part,
Lebron in those clutch moments, he's either taking a deep
three or gone all the way to the basket. I
like the fact he's going to need that go to move.
That's not one of those two things in the playoffs,
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particularly against the Clippers. And I liked that he went
into the post and then out to the mid range
and got that shot. That's a shot, that was a
shot Jordan perfected in the second three pet That's a
shot Lebron can use and in clutch moments against the
Clippers or anyone else. And I like that we talked
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about he doesn't really have that go to move. Perhaps
it could be the fade away spincause nobody's gonna block
that Ni Kauai, not Paul George. You know, Yannis blocked
it an All Star game. That's an All Star game.
I don't know if he could do that in a
real game. But that's a move I'd like to see
Lebron make. And I liked that he did it in
the in this game. But then after the game he
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went on Instagram and he posted this, rob G. I
absolutely live for those moments. I don't always come out
as I would like, but I'll be right there again
and again and again when it presents itself every single time,
succeed or fail. All right, Rob, this is what Lebron
is saying. He's heard the whispers, the screams, the yells,
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whatever it is. He's heard everybody calling him to wash.
That's why he's hashtag wash King. He's heard people say
that he can't close, that he doesn't want the ball
in the clutch. He's heard people say that for three
quarters on Christmas Day they outplayed the Clippers, but when
it came down to close in the game, he didn't
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do it. He's heard people say that ever since he's
been in Los Angeles, he hasn't been closing games. He's
heard it all and that's why he posted that message
on IG so y'all know his ears are wide open
and he's going to deliver when his time, Rob G.
Can you go back to that quoting what he wrote
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and this is the most telling thing on the whole
thing and why he knows he's not that clutch and
even had to mention it when he talks about I
know it doesn't always end. What was that part? I
don't always come out as I would like. All right,
stop there you go, you don't have to say that.
Why would you have to put that out there? That's
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because that's what people always think about Lebron and those
big moments. He even had to put it out there
because he knew he just couldn't gloat and put it
out there that that's what he's about, and he's always, oh, yeah,
you know clutch. You don't even have to put that
out there if you don't know, if you unless you
realize that, yes, the m O. The story about you
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is that you're not clutch, is that you'd rather give
up the basketball to some also ran some flunkey, some
some subpart player in a big the greatest three point shooters.
They were up, they were up by two. With the basketball.
They didn't have to pass the ball over to Kyle Corbn.
That was bad basketball. There was no reason Lebron Jordan.
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They had to lead. Lebron had the basketball, Chris, there
was no reason to go for a three pointed there.
And then if you remember how that game ended, they
got outscored a having nothing to lose the game, but
that had nothing to do. They were up, they were
up to, they were up to. You gotta take a shot, No,
but Lebron was right there. He didn't have to pass
it to get it. You don't need a three up
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two with the best player in the world, you don't
need as good as a two. I don't love that play.
And Lebron knows it. He knows he's not clutched. The
eye test tells everybody he's not clutching. I don't care
about your phony statue you're reciting. About to bring facts maybe,
but first I'm going to go here. This is see,
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this is the problem with being led by your feet.
Here we go. You know this is the problem to
poo facts. No, I'm not even asking him for a
mic job. This is the problem when you poo poo facts. Okay,
you get crossed up, you get tangled up, you're fun,
you're bewildered, and a guy like Bruce, Bruce hard shut
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you down down. Now you said, because Lebron said I failed,
I don't always succeed that he's that's a problem. Why
you Why you putting it out there, Lebron? That means
you know you're not clutch. Let me ask you a question,
Rob Parker, yes or no answer? Was Michael Jordan clutch?
Absolutely he was Okay, here's the Michael Jordan commercial. It's
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a classic hitted Alex. I missed more than nine thousand
shots in my career. I've lost almost three hundred games
twenty six times. I've been trusted to take the game
winning shot and missed. I failed over and over and
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over again in my life, and that is why I succeed.
Mike drop. That is so ridiculous. That's copy that was
written for some dumb commercial. Didn't Jordan didn't want to
read it? Did he read like Jordan? You know, Michael
Judy like like like Rob g wrote that from Michael Louis.
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That ain't no what's called Lebron on his own personal
ground I'm talking about but I'm talking about you know,
Jordan wouldn't have said that if he didn't believe it. No, No,
but umbers were true. Lebron had to put in there
because he knew. He just couldn't gloat. Why not just
talk about how clutch you are in the big moment.
And I got the stats, Chris Bouchard, that just that
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that tell me that I'm better than Michael Jordan. I
never said it better. No, I'm talking about it clutch moment,
you know, that nobody in and and and NBA America
would rather have Lebron James with the ball when the
games on the line than Michael Jordan. Nobody, nobody, that's
not the issue. That's nobody is both. You're right, and
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I'm included in that. I would take Jordan. But my
point is this, just because he's not Jordan in the
clutch doesn't mean he's not clutch. And here's the facts. Again,
Stop being led by your feelings. It just gets embarrassing.
I don't have feelings in this. What do white care.
I'm I'm a reporter. I'm not a fairy eye test.
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Here's the facts in the game for game time or
go ahead field goals with under ten seconds left in
the playoffs, okay, playoffs, Michael Jordan none. You start with
Kobe Kobe Bryant's field goal percentage. He's five for twenty
two in those moments on game time or go ahead
shots twenty three percent. Michael Jordan's seven for fifteen forty
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seven percent. Lebron James twelve for twenty three fifty two percent.
Rob And there's more. I mean, this is this is
a rob G where you didn't send it to me.
Where's it? Give me? Give me the other statues. Rob
G has to help out Christ for all you people,
he pulled the curtain back on a show. Here, this
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is Chris bus from producer rob G. Otherwise you wouldn't
know what he's talking about. Go ahead, rob Gi, feed me,
feed me rob G, feed me. Listen whether rob give
me whatever whatever stats he makes? It like, what did
Rob G did tell you in your ear? And now
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you're blatantly begging rob G to try to help your
feeble argument about feeble? Here it is, I got it,
rob You did it on the air with talk. At
least I do the talk when you can't hear you.
Listen Lebron James last yesterday that was his seventh go
ahead shot and the no that what that? Rob Gi?
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What is this? Chris? You can read the before you
go on its qualified. Now those stats I sent you
word regards to playoff performance. Right, Lebron James has made
seven career go ahead shots in the final five seconds
in the fourth quarter over time in his playoff career.
So wait a minute and two against one, seven of
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fifteen in his career right forty seven percent. Michael Jordan
very good, five of eleven only forty five percent. Though
Michael Jordan has three buzzer beaters, Lebron has five, including
he had two in one postseason, saying, Alex, Alex, can
you tell me what? Can you tell me what you
think about this too? Since Rob g is on Chris's side,
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he needs another man to help him get his point
of fall. Now you're asking out is go ahead? Alex? Yeah, Alex,
just tell me this. All Alexeter told me is that
Michael Jordan is better than Lebron James and Clutch moments.
I don't care what the stats. I'm not saying Jordan
is not better or I'd rather not rather have him
take the shot. What I'm saying is Lebron is clutch.
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That's all I'm saying. His numbers double Kobe's who was clutch.
I mean, we gotta bring some facts to this fight. Rob,
you up here the eye tell your eyes are bad.
You got reading glasses on as we speak. You can't
even read your dark eyepad without pulling out your bi folk.
What are you talking about? You know I'm right. I mean,
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you can't deny that. Even Alex the Vegan knows I'm saying.
I'm gonna tell you, Rob, I wish we had the
stats for any time he's passed the ball and big
shots and all that stuff. That's what right, you know,
because he's always he's always giving the eye tell no,
because he's always looking for somebody else to be the goat.
And I'm talking about scared billy goat. Yes, he don't
want to make the yesterday, don't want to do that. Yeah,
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he scared yes regular season game in February. How has
he get five buzzer beaters in the playoffs if he's scared,
I don't know how than Michael Jordan. I don't know
how he's done it. But because Michael was never behind,
he didn't have to get stop. That's a big difference.
Stop it he's actually not behind, or he's taking more
clutch shots than than Jordan and Kobe right, because he
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had to bail himself out at the end because he
didn't do what he needed to do earlier in the game.
But when he does do it early, then you blame him.
You act like the game's only ten seconds long. When
he might play a Golden State game. One prime example,
Lebron scores fifty one point and gives up the best.
Would it matter? What is it? Rob? Is it the
clutchers in the first forty eight minutes? But why are
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you giving up the basketball when you're having your best
postseason game ever? Ide Jordan give it up, Dy Jordan,
give it up to Steve And didn't remember that game
went to overtime. He pouded like a baby. He pouded
like lost that game. Michael Jordan never passed the ball.
The only difference was his teammates hit the shots. Well,
m Lebron's teammates aren't making him and he's supposed to
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be the greatest player on the planet, So hold on
to the ball and do it yourself. I'd rather you lose,
uh with the ball with Lebron. No, that's the team sport.
It's not a team sport if it's about Lebron. And
the only reason that people, this is the thing that
killed me about all of all the Lebron supporters, is
that they only because when he loses, they always like
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make an excuse, Oh, it doesn't mat between the nation
and they gave the ball. Well, he made the right
basketball play. No, I don't want you to make the
right basketball play. I want you to take the control
of the ball at the end of the game, and
I want you to knock down. This is a bunch
of psychobabble from a guy that has never taken a
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psychology class never. How do you know they didn't even
offer him at Southern Western Christian Tech Connecticut north all right,
they didn't even have psychology, So stop it. How many
how many names of the school, I don't know, it's
it's I don't even think the building was big enough.
The Technical School of Agriculture in Connecticut North Side. That's
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what it's called, the best trade school around. That's why
Rob always says I went to Colombia. Yeah, after I
always Southwest. I recalled from Southern Connecticut Baptist Missionary Tech.
You're just mad because he went to some school in
the cornfield that nobody's ever heard in college. Really, Yeah,
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the iHeart Radio app. We've talked to Al Bernstein, the
Hall of Fame boxing analysts about the big fight Wilder
Fury too just last hour and we want to go
to that um. Rob and I were among them, many
many people who were wrong about this fight. I mean,
the great Teddy Atlas picked Wilder to win. We had
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Sean Portroy, he picked wild A lot of people skipping
Shannon picked Wader to win. You and I you had
Wilder and eight I had him in ten, go on
and on and on, and people just were wrong. We
were all wrong. Yeah, and I'm gonna say this, Rob,
here's my breakdown of the fight. I don't Tyson. When
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Tyson Fury said that he was going to attack and
knock out Deontay Wilder, he was saying that all up,
you know, until the fight. I thought he was just
either trying to two things, really trying to get into
Wilder's head about what my strategy gonna be in confusing
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and also trying to sell the fight, because I would
not have been surprised if Fury had won on points
in a twelve just out because he's obviously a much
better boxer. But the fact that he actually did go
on the attack and just destroyed Wilder, I mean, just
mauled him. That was what was surprising. And here's my thing,
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and I've said this is not new, this is not
old Chris reacting because Wilder got bet. I have said
this ever since Deontay Wilder became a big fixture in
the heavyweight division. He can't box, He cannot box. He
is he has one thing and that is that right hand,
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and it is one of the most powerful punches we've
ever seen in the heavyweight division or in boxing period.
But that is it. Louise Ortiz was beating him, pitching
basically a shutout recently, and Wilder caught him and knocked
him out. And that's usually how he gets it done.
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But a guy who's skillful and like furious, very skillful, right,
And I think that is what Chris. If he doesn't
get that, like in the first fight, he knocked him
down or twice, right, So if he doesn't get that
shot and keep the guy down, he can lose. And
we just saw it in this case. But I don't
think anybody signed up for this. I really I was
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surprised at how defensive you know, on the defensive he was,
and and uh, how much trouble he was in after
the right away, Like when when Fury went on the
attack and he actually sprinted out to the middle of
the ring in the first round. Wilder was backing up
the entire fight. And I remember in the first round
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saying this is not good like he but because that
right hand he throws, he steps forward with the left
foot and then almost lunges into you with the right hand.
And that's one reason he gets so much power on it.
But when you're backing up, you can't do that. And
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here's the thing, his lack of boxing skills. Remember Rob
Deontay Wilder is an athlete who picked up boxing at
about twenty years old, and so he is way behind
in terms of developing those boxing skills. Once Fury, because
he was on the attack, took away the right hand,
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then Wilder had nothing to go to. He doesn't throw
the jab as a weapon. He just throws it as
a measuring stick to set up the right He doesn't dance.
I thought when he was, you know, in trouble, I
was yelling run like, you know, get your get go,
stay away from him until you can get your wits
about it, and then you might you might have to
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do that for a round or so and just to
be able to get your footing. It's a tractic. People
wouldn't love it. But he did it against listening, listening,
when listening, put the stuff in his eye and tried
to blind Ally in the fifth round, I believe, and
because he was getting beat and he said, let me
do this so I can blind Ali. Ali ran. Ali
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wanted them to cut his gloves off and stop the fight.
He was in the corner, his eyes are burning, and
Angelo Dundee pushed him out and said run, and he
ran for the round. Ali Obviously Ali was quick and
then eventually the stuff wore out and you know, start
fighting again. But so that's my number one thing. Rob
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Wilder is not a box. And here's my other take.
I don't think and I hope I'm wrong. I hope
I'm wrong. I'm not trying to wish anything evil or
negative on Deontay Wilder. I like him. I mean I
was pulling for him to win the fight, and I
picked him to win the fight. But I don't think
he'll bounce back from this. Rob, you think that this
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is it yes, because when you have been dominant for
so long, especially in the manner that he was, and
you get exposed, which is what happened to him, it
is hard to bounce back mentally and emotion You remember
when George Foreman, who was he was beyond Deontay Wilder. Oh, no, George,
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he was Mike Tyson. He was sunny listening of that.
I mean he demolished the great Joe Frasier Now to
get down six times in two rounds. No, no about adult.
But at that time you had three grade heavyweights, heavyweights
going at it, Ali, Foreman, and Frazier all at the
same time. Back then, you had to fight each other, right,
it was no, that's the only way you can make money.
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And wanted to fight, and they wanted to fight each other.
Was a totally different time. So you had these great
boxers fighting each other all the time. But but you're right,
but when when when Ali beat Foreman, Foreman was never
the same. It took a religious conversion, and then Foreman
started preaching for like ten fifteen years and then came
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back and we know he had a whole entire personality
change and went from being darn near this or disliked.
Let's put it that way. So the most lovable by
going And don't forget to George Foreman Grill. I mean
I was later, but you know what I'm saying. But
look how long it took him back back. Mike Tyson. Yeah,
he had some nice bouts with Razor Ruddick and he
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fought Lennox Lewis, but he was never the same. He
was never the same after Buster Douglas beat him and
took away that or of invincibility. Roy Jones Junior, he
wasn't a bully in knocking everybody out, but he was
by far the pound for pound greatest fighter in the
I remember that when he lost, and it just changed everything.
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He never was the same because I look, if this
had happened the Wilder early in his career, he would
have had no choice but to bounce back. If you're
gonna be a fighter, you gotta bounce back. But when
it happens this late and you you think you're invincible,
I just think mentally it is going to be a
long road to hold for him to bounce back. And
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here's what he said after the fight. He made an excuse.
He said he doesn't want to but he made an excuse.
And then the day he made a host of excuses.
Here's what he said after the fight. I had a
lot of things going on coming into this fight, but
it is what it is. My leg was all ready
to read coming in due to other things. But you know,
I made no excuses to night. I just wish that
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my corner would have let me went out on my seals.
I'm a warrior and that's what I do. You know
what I'm saying. What he did, what he did, there's
no excuses, and we come back and strum go ahead. Rap.
I was gonna say, that's an excuse, right that First
of all, he said, I don't want excuses, but you
just made excuse. And then the other thing is, you know,
Mark Brillan is a boxing legend from New York, Okay,
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and Mark Brian later in his career got you know,
beat off. Yes, yes, and he knows what it's exactly.
So my point is Brian has been there, he's got
the expertise in it, you know, and he knows what
it can do to you, Chris. So I'm not mad
at Mark Brelan. He was hurt. He was he was hurt.
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Everybody his luck was hanging a half off everybody's talking about.
I mean, well he still got that right, his legs
were gone and all. He wasn't gonna do nothing with it.
They want to see him knocked out of the ring.
I'm serious, right, like like I'm not mad. I am
not either. And I think he fired breathing today, right,
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Deontay Wider, I think that's ridiculous. Wilder was getting destroyed, destroyed.
You know, it wasn't close. It wasn't. It wasn't You
got caught with a shot. You was a slug fast
and he got the best you worked. He was getting demolished.
And today Rob I don't know if this supports my
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theory that he won't bounce back. But he fired Mark Breland,
as we said, he criticized the ref Kenney Bayless. We
already heard Bayless was fine. Bayless actually took a point
from furious. I don't even really know why. I didn't
see anything untoward rabbit punch, but and then he this,
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this is this is the granddaddy of all excuses. Deontay
Wilder told Yahoo dot Com that the costume he wore
into the ring stop it was that a playoff with Conda.
I mean that was some type of what Conda thing.
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It was a big time black history type thing. He
had photos of Harriet Tubman and other Black history heroes.
The song was what that black magic was the song
this dude was rapping. It was a whole with kinda
thing theme. But anyway, Wilder marched into the ring with
this costume on. And today he told Yahoo, the costume
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waged forty pounds and that took away my legs and
that is what happened. That is why wasn't the same
stop it. I'm gonna say, please, I mean it said,
and you don't have to go that route. You got beat.
It's okay, Chris, you got beat, And uh, you don't
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need to go all of and come up with these
cockamami ideas and excuses and try to sell it to people.
Just accepted and you got to move on. But I
don't know, does this support my theory? You think? I
don't know what how to read this. Does this make
you think he won't bounce back? I don't. I don't
know if it's all over, Like I know what you're saying.
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I'm not saying he won't be at the beat. Some
people I actually think because you know what you mean, Josh.
You know, I just don't think he can beat as
long as Fury still fighting, I don't think he can
be Fury. So so would you be interested in seeing
another Fury fight? That's what I asked al Bernstein, Chris,
if you don't think you're you're like a lot of
people watch the fight, and you've seen the first two fights, right,
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So why would I be? Why would I your fights?
But you want to see fights though, But I'm just
saying if you're telling me, like, deep down you don't
think he could beat him, well, what's the attraction of
that fight? Tip to you? And you remember when we
had showtime Sean Porter on Friday, Yes, we said, we
both myself and Sean said the big the best case
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for a rematch is not if Wilder beats Fury, because
we saw Wilder knocked him out, knock him down in
the first fight. If he would have knocked him out
in this fight, people would have been like, Okay, that's
what Deontay does. I don't think there would have been
a clamoring for a rematch. But what Sean and I
both said was that if Fury wins, there will be
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a interest in a rematch, yeah, but be interested because
but the only thing is he still has that punch.
But the only difference though Chris and I think I
remember exactly that, but not to get beat like this.
I think if Fury would have beaten them and it
was a fight or you know what I mean, closer
and then you go, man, I want to see the
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third one. You know it was you had a draw,
then you had a close decision. You know, Fury waned
and now I want to see the third one. But
he got his but kicks so bad. I'm just I'm
not saying that fight fans are always looking for. The
thing is I don't know if the first time we've
seen him getting demolished like that. And again, I think
Fury will beat him because one, he can outbox him
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if he wants. Two, he's not afraid of Wilder and
he knows he can march towards Wilder. Three. Wilder I
think mentally is going to have trouble against Fury more
than anybody because this dude's taking your best shot and
he's pummeled you himself. Like, but I would watch it.
I'm not gonna lie, but I would. I would watch
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the fight. I'm not so I'm just wonder like some
people are, like, Oh, I'm done with Wilder, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I don't. Look, I don't think
he's a great he's done, but but you're not done.
I think he's done this. He can't be Fury. I
would like to see him fight Anthony Joshua because Joshua
was timid in his rematch victory over Ruise and Wilder.
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I think that'd be a good fight. That's what I'd
like to see before and then the winner fight Fury.
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SR to listen live. Today they held Kobe's memorial at
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the Staples Center and it was great. I mean, you know, Rob,
since this happened and I was the next day, I
was on all our shows. I co hosted First Things
First that Monday after it happened, and that was three hours,
and then I did Undisputed with skipping Shannon and the
Herd with Colin and Yeah and doing all those shows. Honestly,
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it was a bit therapeutic and being able to just
talk it out and talk out all your feelings about
Kobe and his great career and just the loss and everything,
and I you know, it's it's hard to think about it,
and so I've kind of tried not to think about
it much because when you start thinking about it, you know,
it's just hard to believe that he isn't here. But today,
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obviously you're thinking about it when you're watching the memorial,
and they did a great job. It was classy. I
thought it was something befitting Kobe Bryant and his greatness.
I agree with the people that they had, you know,
star studded people who were close to him, and you
know what I mean. It wasn't like, well why are
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they up there? Or you know what I mean? It
was right. It was done right. But I also think, Chris,
the bigger message that came out of this is I
think people it really like shook a lot of people
life wise, because you see a guy like Kobe Bryant
who has the world, has everything, every reason to live.
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He's famous, he's rich, do you know what I mean,
He's had all of these great things happened in his life,
and to lose your life at forty one years old,
with so much life to live, so many other things
to go, you know, to do, and your daughters there
as well, and you leave your other three daughters and
your wife. I just think a lot of people were
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jolted and like because the one thing I still remember
from that day, what's people were saying, No, not Kobe,
do you know, like because like he was gonna overcome that, right,
do you know what I mean? No, not Kobe, because
it's so shocking, and I think in in uh, the
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millennials and younger people, they just haven't experienced something like that,
not like we've had other situations were a little older,
but but of that magnitude, that kind of star who's
done so much to be that young, had a second
act was going in his life after successful, right you
know what I mean, Like when he had started to
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turn the page and people looked at Kobe was a
little more out there sitting you know, sitting watching his
daughter's play, uh, chiming in on women's basketball, right, a
lot of stuff. So I think it was a joke
that wow, you know what I mean, that we lost
Kobe Bryant. So yeah, it was a reminder that life
can be very, very cruel and abrupt, right, no doubt
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about it. The finality of it, um as you said,
the abruptness. But it was some great highlights. And his wife,
Vanessa did a tremendous job, you know. I mean she's
not a public speaker, going up there in front of
what twenty thousand people whatever it was, and know and
you know all the other people watching. Oh yeah, she
did a terrific job. Here's an excerpt of what she said.
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Kobe was the MVP of Girl Dads or MVD. He
never left the toilet seat up. He always told the
girls how beautiful and smart they are. He taught them
how to be brave and how to keep pushing forward
when things get tough. Yeah, she did a great She
let you in, you know, obviously every she knew Kobe
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Brownt better than anybody, and she let you in and
talked about what he was like as a husband, what
he was like as a dad, with you know, specific
because stories I would hope it would be about that
and not basketball. She knew about a totally different love
and hardly talk about That's not for her to talk about.
Plenty of other people could talk about how grad he
was so right, And people didn't even talk about his
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greatness as a player. I mean it was touched on obviously, right, right,
but more people talked about, you know, him as a person.
And there was a story she told where she said that,
you know, she used to pick the girls up from school,
um when you know, obviously when Kobe was playing, but
then when she had started, you know, had the younger kids.
She would stay home with him, and Kobe would pick
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him up and she had told him, look, I was
never late, so don't don't be late. And one time
he was late, and of course, you know, they all
ribbed him about it and talked to talk to him
about that. She said, from that point on, every day
he not only was he on time, he would show
up an hour and twenty minutes early every day, twenty
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minutes to make sure he wasn't late. So that was amazing.
That was an amazing story. Michael Jordan's. It was very emotional. Yes,
he cried just about the whole way through, right, And
you know, I knew he had. He and Kobe had
a good relationship, but Kobe, knowing how many people knew
the depth of the relationships, Kobe wanted to be you
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you know, you remember I want to be like I did.
Was times early on Chris when I would listen to
Kobe sound, and God, does sound like Michael Jordan's even
down to that, even the way he walked, even the
wrist band on the yell boll, I mean, it was,
it was. It was incredible what Kobe tried to do
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to be like he wanted to be Michael Jordan, like
developing the post game. Yes, he is the closest thing. Now.
I don't think he's the second greatest player to Jordan,
but he is the closest thing we've ever seen to
Michael Jordan. I mean his game, as you say it
is walk was this very much like Jordan's, very much
like you like. I mean, clearly he mimicked a lot
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of what Michael Jordan did. Um, but Jordan had a
nice joke about you know, we all seen the crime meme.
You know they've worn that out on the internet, but
they about to wear out another one. Here's Mike. Now
he's got me. I don't have to look at another
crime meme for the NIX. I just like, Um, I
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like that he didn't botch me, you know, like right pressed,
but I was he didn't. He didn't, I probably would
have fumbled the world about the same age. Yeah, I
think he might be one year older than me, is he.
I think he's going on the Golden Girls cruise. He
might be on the cool Way. No, how, Michael Jordan
is too cool to go in the Golden Girls. I'm
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gonna be even cooler once I get back and everybody
sees the pictures and the babes and the cheesecake and
the four o'clock dinners. Watch is right about that? Four
and then um Shock And I thought it was great
that they had Shock speak because we all know about
the you know, relationship issues and even admitted that he
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had but that he hadn't talked to him in four years, right, right,
But I don't think it was that. No, I'm just saying,
know they obviously that they disliked each other, Um No,
But I'm just saying that was what Shack said that
you know, that's last time he talked to him, was
what his last game was? That what he was, right,
That's what I'm said. But the point to that is,
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you know sometimes people like, uh, you know, you don't
talk to somebody or you hold a girl, you just
don't know that you may never talk to him again.
And that's really the message in that. But I thought
having Shocks speak, uh what and you know you could
haved Derek Fisher, who he was close with as a teammate,
but having Shock I thought that was a nice you know,
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that showed that they were cool. They had let bygones
be bygones. And you know that even Vanessa him, you know,
it was like Shock's a part of our quote unquote family,
so to speak. So here here's Shaq told a funny
story about how he first game respect for Kobe to
day Kobe game I respect was the guys were complaining,
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said Shaq, Kobe's not passing the ball. I said, I'll
talk to him. I said, Kobe, there's no and Kobe said,
I know, but there's an and there it is. I
was good some levity, right, Oh, we had everything emotion levity.
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It was great. It was well done. And you know,
from now and we'll just celebrate Kobe and the great memories.
And the NBA did a nice thing by naming that
All Star MVP Trophy after him. I think that was
the right touch. We had talked about a couple of ideas. Chris,
and I think that that that means you forever right
that I thought they should have retired numbers eight and
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twenty four League, but um, you know it's fine. I
mean I never thought they were going to change the logo.
I mean I thought that was no. Most people think
if they do, if they do, it should be Michael
would be Michael, right, Yeah, which I would tend to
agree with.
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Yesterday was one of the better NBA games of the season,
obviously the rivalry of the Los Angeles Lakers Boston Celtic
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beat Xflow. We don't have the number shut I don't know,
but don't, don't, don't. It was a great game, all right,
It was a great game. Jason Jason Tatum forty one
points for the Celtics without Kimba Walker. They played them tough,
but in the end Lebron James sealed the deal. Thirty
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seconds left, backs down, Jalen Brown fakes left, kind of dreamshake, move,
spins to his right, fades away money from about sixteen
seventeen feet and what I liked about that Rod Parker,
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and I've said it in LA for the most part,
Lebron in those clutch moments, he's either taking a deep
three or gone all the way to the basket. I
like the fact he's going to need that go to move.
That's not one of those two things in the playoffs,
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particularly against the Clippers. And I liked that he went
into the post and then out to the mid range
and got that shot. That's a shot, that was a
shot Jordan perfected in the second three pet That's a
shot Lebron can use and in clutch moments against the
Clippers or anyone else. And I like that we talked
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about he doesn't really have that go to move. Perhaps
it could be the fade away spincause nobody's gonna block
that Ni Kauai, not Paul George. You know, Yannis blocked
it an All Star game. That's an All Star game.
I don't know if he could do that in a
real game. But that's a move I'd like to see
Lebron make. And I liked that he did it in
the in this game. But then after the game he
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went on Instagram and he posted this, rob G. I
absolutely live for those moments. I don't always come out
as I would like, but I'll be right there again
and again and again when it presents itself every single time,
succeed or fail. All right, Rob, this is what Lebron
is saying. He's heard the whispers, the screams, the yells,
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whatever it is. He's heard everybody calling him to wash.
That's why he's hashtag wash King. He's heard people say
that he can't close, that he doesn't want the ball
in the clutch. He's heard people say that for three
quarters on Christmas Day they outplayed the Clippers, but when
it came down to close in the game, he didn't
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do it. He's heard people say that ever since he's
been in Los Angeles, he hasn't been closing games. He's
heard it all and that's why he posted that message
on IG so y'all know his ears are wide open
and he's going to deliver when his time, Rob G.
Can you go back to that quoting what he wrote
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and this is the most telling thing on the whole
thing and why he knows he's not that clutch and
even had to mention it when he talks about I
know it doesn't always end. What was that part? I
don't always come out as I would like. All right,
stop there you go, you don't have to say that.
Why would you have to put that out there? That's
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because that's what people always think about Lebron and those
big moments. He even had to put it out there
because he knew he just couldn't gloat and put it
out there that that's what he's about, and he's always, oh, yeah,
you know clutch. You don't even have to put that
out there if you don't know, if you unless you
realize that, yes, the m O. The story about you
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is that you're not clutch, is that you'd rather give
up the basketball to some also ran some flunkey, some
some subpart player in a big the greatest three point shooters.
They were up, they were up by two. With the basketball.
They didn't have to pass the ball over to Kyle Corbn.
That was bad basketball. There was no reason Lebron Jordan.
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They had to lead. Lebron had the basketball, Chris, there
was no reason to go for a three pointed there.
And then if you remember how that game ended, they
got outscored a having nothing to lose the game, but
that had nothing to do. They were up, they were
up to, they were up to. You gotta take a shot, No,
but Lebron was right there. He didn't have to pass
it to get it. You don't need a three up
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two with the best player in the world, you don't
need as good as a two. I don't love that play.
And Lebron knows it. He knows he's not clutched. The
eye test tells everybody he's not clutching. I don't care
about your phony statue you're reciting. About to bring facts maybe,
but first I'm going to go here. This is see,
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this is the problem with being led by your feet.
Here we go. You know this is the problem to
poo facts. No, I'm not even asking him for a
mic job. This is the problem when you poo poo facts. Okay,
you get crossed up, you get tangled up, you're fun,
you're bewildered, and a guy like Bruce, Bruce hard shut
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you down down. Now you said, because Lebron said I failed,
I don't always succeed that he's that's a problem. Why
you Why you putting it out there, Lebron? That means
you know you're not clutch. Let me ask you a question,
Rob Parker, yes or no answer? Was Michael Jordan clutch?
Absolutely he was Okay, here's the Michael Jordan commercial. It's
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a classic hitted Alex. I missed more than nine thousand
shots in my career. I've lost almost three hundred games
twenty six times. I've been trusted to take the game
winning shot and missed. I failed over and over and
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over again in my life, and that is why I succeed.
Mike drop. That is so ridiculous. That's copy that was
written for some dumb commercial. Didn't Jordan didn't want to
read it? Did he read like Jordan? You know, Michael
Judy like like like Rob g wrote that from Michael Louis.
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That ain't no what's called Lebron on his own personal
ground I'm talking about but I'm talking about you know,
Jordan wouldn't have said that if he didn't believe it. No, No,
but umbers were true. Lebron had to put in there
because he knew. He just couldn't gloat. Why not just
talk about how clutch you are in the big moment.
And I got the stats, Chris Bouchard, that just that
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that tell me that I'm better than Michael Jordan. I
never said it better. No, I'm talking about it clutch moment,
you know, that nobody in and and and NBA America
would rather have Lebron James with the ball when the
games on the line than Michael Jordan. Nobody, nobody, that's
not the issue. That's nobody is both. You're right, and
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I'm included in that. I would take Jordan. But my
point is this, just because he's not Jordan in the
clutch doesn't mean he's not clutch. And here's the facts. Again,
Stop being led by your feelings. It just gets embarrassing.
I don't have feelings in this. What do white care.
I'm I'm a reporter. I'm not a fairy eye test.
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Here's the facts in the game for game time or
go ahead field goals with under ten seconds left in
the playoffs, okay, playoffs, Michael Jordan none. You start with
Kobe Kobe Bryant's field goal percentage. He's five for twenty
two in those moments on game time or go ahead
shots twenty three percent. Michael Jordan's seven for fifteen forty
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seven percent. Lebron James twelve for twenty three fifty two percent.
Rob And there's more. I mean, this is this is
a rob G where you didn't send it to me.
Where's it? Give me? Give me the other statues. Rob
G has to help out Christ for all you people,
he pulled the curtain back on a show. Here, this
(09:00):
is Chris bus from producer rob G. Otherwise you wouldn't
know what he's talking about. Go ahead, rob Gi, feed me,
feed me rob G, feed me. Listen whether rob give
me whatever whatever stats he makes? It like, what did
Rob G did tell you in your ear? And now
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you're blatantly begging rob G to try to help your
feeble argument about feeble? Here it is, I got it,
rob You did it on the air with talk. At
least I do the talk when you can't hear you.
Listen Lebron James last yesterday that was his seventh go
ahead shot and the no that what that? Rob Gi?
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What is this? Chris? You can read the before you
go on its qualified. Now those stats I sent you
word regards to playoff performance. Right, Lebron James has made
seven career go ahead shots in the final five seconds
in the fourth quarter over time in his playoff career.
So wait a minute and two against one, seven of
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fifteen in his career right forty seven percent. Michael Jordan
very good, five of eleven only forty five percent. Though
Michael Jordan has three buzzer beaters, Lebron has five, including
he had two in one postseason, saying, Alex, Alex, can
you tell me what? Can you tell me what you
think about this too? Since Rob g is on Chris's side,
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he needs another man to help him get his point
of fall. Now you're asking out is go ahead? Alex? Yeah, Alex,
just tell me this. All Alexeter told me is that
Michael Jordan is better than Lebron James and Clutch moments.
I don't care what the stats. I'm not saying Jordan
is not better or I'd rather not rather have him
take the shot. What I'm saying is Lebron is clutch.
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That's all I'm saying. His numbers double Kobe's who was clutch.
I mean, we gotta bring some facts to this fight. Rob,
you up here the eye tell your eyes are bad.
You got reading glasses on as we speak. You can't
even read your dark eyepad without pulling out your bi folk.
What are you talking about? You know I'm right. I mean,
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you can't deny that. Even Alex the Vegan knows I'm saying.
I'm gonna tell you, Rob, I wish we had the
stats for any time he's passed the ball and big
shots and all that stuff. That's what right, you know,
because he's always he's always giving the eye tell no,
because he's always looking for somebody else to be the goat.
And I'm talking about scared billy goat. Yes, he don't
want to make the yesterday, don't want to do that. Yeah,
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he scared yes regular season game in February. How has
he get five buzzer beaters in the playoffs if he's scared,
I don't know how than Michael Jordan. I don't know
how he's done it. But because Michael was never behind,
he didn't have to get stop. That's a big difference.
Stop it he's actually not behind, or he's taking more
clutch shots than than Jordan and Kobe right, because he
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had to bail himself out at the end because he
didn't do what he needed to do earlier in the game.
But when he does do it early, then you blame him.
You act like the game's only ten seconds long. When
he might play a Golden State game. One prime example,
Lebron scores fifty one point and gives up the best.
Would it matter? What is it? Rob? Is it the
clutchers in the first forty eight minutes? But why are
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you giving up the basketball when you're having your best
postseason game ever? Ide Jordan give it up, Dy Jordan,
give it up to Steve And didn't remember that game
went to overtime. He pouded like a baby. He pouded
like lost that game. Michael Jordan never passed the ball.
The only difference was his teammates hit the shots. Well,
m Lebron's teammates aren't making him and he's supposed to
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be the greatest player on the planet, So hold on
to the ball and do it yourself. I'd rather you lose,
uh with the ball with Lebron. No, that's the team sport.
It's not a team sport if it's about Lebron. And
the only reason that people, this is the thing that
killed me about all of all the Lebron supporters, is
that they only because when he loses, they always like
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make an excuse, Oh, it doesn't mat between the nation
and they gave the ball. Well, he made the right
basketball play. No, I don't want you to make the
right basketball play. I want you to take the control
of the ball at the end of the game, and
I want you to knock down. This is a bunch
of psychobabble from a guy that has never taken a
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psychology class never. How do you know they didn't even
offer him at Southern Western Christian Tech Connecticut north all right,
they didn't even have psychology, So stop it. How many
how many names of the school, I don't know, it's
it's I don't even think the building was big enough.
The Technical School of Agriculture in Connecticut North Side. That's
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what it's called, the best trade school around. That's why
Rob always says I went to Colombia. Yeah, after I
always Southwest. I recalled from Southern Connecticut Baptist Missionary Tech.
You're just mad because he went to some school in
the cornfield that nobody's ever heard in college. Really, Yeah,
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(14:05):
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the iHeart Radio app. We've talked to Al Bernstein, the
Hall of Fame boxing analysts about the big fight Wilder
Fury too just last hour and we want to go
to that um. Rob and I were among them, many
many people who were wrong about this fight. I mean,
the great Teddy Atlas picked Wilder to win. We had
(14:47):
Sean Portroy, he picked wild A lot of people skipping
Shannon picked Wader to win. You and I you had
Wilder and eight I had him in ten, go on
and on and on, and people just were wrong. We
were all wrong. Yeah, and I'm gonna say this, Rob,
here's my breakdown of the fight. I don't Tyson. When
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Tyson Fury said that he was going to attack and
knock out Deontay Wilder, he was saying that all up,
you know, until the fight. I thought he was just
either trying to two things, really trying to get into
Wilder's head about what my strategy gonna be in confusing
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and also trying to sell the fight, because I would
not have been surprised if Fury had won on points
in a twelve just out because he's obviously a much
better boxer. But the fact that he actually did go
on the attack and just destroyed Wilder, I mean, just
mauled him. That was what was surprising. And here's my thing,
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and I've said this is not new, this is not
old Chris reacting because Wilder got bet. I have said
this ever since Deontay Wilder became a big fixture in
the heavyweight division. He can't box, He cannot box. He
is he has one thing and that is that right hand,
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and it is one of the most powerful punches we've
ever seen in the heavyweight division or in boxing period.
But that is it. Louise Ortiz was beating him, pitching
basically a shutout recently, and Wilder caught him and knocked
him out. And that's usually how he gets it done.
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But a guy who's skillful and like furious, very skillful, right,
And I think that is what Chris. If he doesn't
get that, like in the first fight, he knocked him
down or twice, right, So if he doesn't get that
shot and keep the guy down, he can lose. And
we just saw it in this case. But I don't
think anybody signed up for this. I really I was
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surprised at how defensive you know, on the defensive he was,
and and uh, how much trouble he was in after
the right away, Like when when Fury went on the
attack and he actually sprinted out to the middle of
the ring in the first round. Wilder was backing up
the entire fight. And I remember in the first round
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saying this is not good like he but because that
right hand he throws, he steps forward with the left
foot and then almost lunges into you with the right hand.
And that's one reason he gets so much power on it.
But when you're backing up, you can't do that. And
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here's the thing, his lack of boxing skills. Remember Rob
Deontay Wilder is an athlete who picked up boxing at
about twenty years old, and so he is way behind
in terms of developing those boxing skills. Once Fury, because
he was on the attack, took away the right hand,
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then Wilder had nothing to go to. He doesn't throw
the jab as a weapon. He just throws it as
a measuring stick to set up the right He doesn't dance.
I thought when he was, you know, in trouble, I
was yelling run like, you know, get your get go,
stay away from him until you can get your wits
about it, and then you might you might have to
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do that for a round or so and just to
be able to get your footing. It's a tractic. People
wouldn't love it. But he did it against listening, listening,
when listening, put the stuff in his eye and tried
to blind Ally in the fifth round, I believe, and
because he was getting beat and he said, let me
do this so I can blind Ali. Ali ran. Ali
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wanted them to cut his gloves off and stop the fight.
He was in the corner, his eyes are burning, and
Angelo Dundee pushed him out and said run, and he
ran for the round. Ali Obviously Ali was quick and
then eventually the stuff wore out and you know, start
fighting again. But so that's my number one thing. Rob
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Wilder is not a box. And here's my other take.
I don't think and I hope I'm wrong. I hope
I'm wrong. I'm not trying to wish anything evil or
negative on Deontay Wilder. I like him. I mean I
was pulling for him to win the fight, and I
picked him to win the fight. But I don't think
he'll bounce back from this. Rob, you think that this
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is it yes, because when you have been dominant for
so long, especially in the manner that he was, and
you get exposed, which is what happened to him, it
is hard to bounce back mentally and emotion You remember
when George Foreman, who was he was beyond Deontay Wilder. Oh, no, George,
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he was Mike Tyson. He was sunny listening of that.
I mean he demolished the great Joe Frasier Now to
get down six times in two rounds. No, no about adult.
But at that time you had three grade heavyweights, heavyweights
going at it, Ali, Foreman, and Frazier all at the
same time. Back then, you had to fight each other, right,
it was no, that's the only way you can make money.
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And wanted to fight, and they wanted to fight each other.
Was a totally different time. So you had these great
boxers fighting each other all the time. But but you're right,
but when when when Ali beat Foreman, Foreman was never
the same. It took a religious conversion, and then Foreman
started preaching for like ten fifteen years and then came
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back and we know he had a whole entire personality
change and went from being darn near this or disliked.
Let's put it that way. So the most lovable by
going And don't forget to George Foreman Grill. I mean
I was later, but you know what I'm saying. But
look how long it took him back back. Mike Tyson. Yeah,
he had some nice bouts with Razor Ruddick and he
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fought Lennox Lewis, but he was never the same. He
was never the same after Buster Douglas beat him and
took away that or of invincibility. Roy Jones Junior, he
wasn't a bully in knocking everybody out, but he was
by far the pound for pound greatest fighter in the
I remember that when he lost, and it just changed everything.
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He never was the same because I look, if this
had happened the Wilder early in his career, he would
have had no choice but to bounce back. If you're
gonna be a fighter, you gotta bounce back. But when
it happens this late and you you think you're invincible,
I just think mentally it is going to be a
long road to hold for him to bounce back. And
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here's what he said after the fight. He made an excuse.
He said he doesn't want to but he made an excuse.
And then the day he made a host of excuses.
Here's what he said after the fight. I had a
lot of things going on coming into this fight, but
it is what it is. My leg was all ready
to read coming in due to other things. But you know,
I made no excuses to night. I just wish that
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my corner would have let me went out on my seals.
I'm a warrior and that's what I do. You know
what I'm saying. What he did, what he did, there's
no excuses, and we come back and strum go ahead. Rap.
I was gonna say, that's an excuse, right that First
of all, he said, I don't want excuses, but you
just made excuse. And then the other thing is, you know,
Mark Brillan is a boxing legend from New York, Okay,
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and Mark Brian later in his career got you know,
beat off. Yes, yes, and he knows what it's exactly.
So my point is Brian has been there, he's got
the expertise in it, you know, and he knows what
it can do to you, Chris. So I'm not mad
at Mark Brelan. He was hurt. He was he was hurt.
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Everybody his luck was hanging a half off everybody's talking about.
I mean, well he still got that right, his legs
were gone and all. He wasn't gonna do nothing with it.
They want to see him knocked out of the ring.
I'm serious, right, like like I'm not mad. I am
not either. And I think he fired breathing today, right,
(23:04):
Deontay Wider, I think that's ridiculous. Wilder was getting destroyed, destroyed.
You know, it wasn't close. It wasn't. It wasn't You
got caught with a shot. You was a slug fast
and he got the best you worked. He was getting demolished.
And today Rob I don't know if this supports my
(23:26):
theory that he won't bounce back. But he fired Mark Breland,
as we said, he criticized the ref Kenney Bayless. We
already heard Bayless was fine. Bayless actually took a point
from furious. I don't even really know why. I didn't
see anything untoward rabbit punch, but and then he this,
(23:46):
this is this is the granddaddy of all excuses. Deontay
Wilder told Yahoo dot Com that the costume he wore
into the ring stop it was that a playoff with Conda.
I mean that was some type of what Conda thing.
(24:07):
It was a big time black history type thing. He
had photos of Harriet Tubman and other Black history heroes.
The song was what that black magic was the song
this dude was rapping. It was a whole with kinda
thing theme. But anyway, Wilder marched into the ring with
this costume on. And today he told Yahoo, the costume
(24:30):
waged forty pounds and that took away my legs and
that is what happened. That is why wasn't the same
stop it. I'm gonna say, please, I mean it said,
and you don't have to go that route. You got beat.
It's okay, Chris, you got beat, And uh, you don't
(24:51):
need to go all of and come up with these
cockamami ideas and excuses and try to sell it to people.
Just accepted and you got to move on. But I
don't know, does this support my theory? You think? I
don't know what how to read this. Does this make
you think he won't bounce back? I don't. I don't
know if it's all over, Like I know what you're saying.
(25:15):
I'm not saying he won't be at the beat. Some
people I actually think because you know what you mean, Josh.
You know, I just don't think he can beat as
long as Fury still fighting, I don't think he can
be Fury. So so would you be interested in seeing
another Fury fight? That's what I asked al Bernstein, Chris,
if you don't think you're you're like a lot of
people watch the fight, and you've seen the first two fights, right,
(25:36):
So why would I be? Why would I your fights?
But you want to see fights though, But I'm just
saying if you're telling me, like, deep down you don't
think he could beat him, well, what's the attraction of
that fight? Tip to you? And you remember when we
had showtime Sean Porter on Friday, Yes, we said, we
both myself and Sean said the big the best case
(25:58):
for a rematch is not if Wilder beats Fury, because
we saw Wilder knocked him out, knock him down in
the first fight. If he would have knocked him out
in this fight, people would have been like, Okay, that's
what Deontay does. I don't think there would have been
a clamoring for a rematch. But what Sean and I
both said was that if Fury wins, there will be
(26:21):
a interest in a rematch, yeah, but be interested because
but the only thing is he still has that punch.
But the only difference though Chris and I think I
remember exactly that, but not to get beat like this.
I think if Fury would have beaten them and it
was a fight or you know what I mean, closer
and then you go, man, I want to see the
(26:42):
third one. You know it was you had a draw,
then you had a close decision. You know, Fury waned
and now I want to see the third one. But
he got his but kicks so bad. I'm just I'm
not saying that fight fans are always looking for. The
thing is I don't know if the first time we've
seen him getting demolished like that. And again, I think
Fury will beat him because one, he can outbox him
(27:03):
if he wants. Two, he's not afraid of Wilder and
he knows he can march towards Wilder. Three. Wilder I
think mentally is going to have trouble against Fury more
than anybody because this dude's taking your best shot and
he's pummeled you himself. Like, but I would watch it.
I'm not gonna lie, but I would. I would watch
(27:25):
the fight. I'm not so I'm just wonder like some
people are, like, Oh, I'm done with Wilder, you know
what I mean? Yeah, I don't. Look, I don't think
he's a great he's done, but but you're not done.
I think he's done this. He can't be Fury. I
would like to see him fight Anthony Joshua because Joshua
was timid in his rematch victory over Ruise and Wilder.
(27:47):
I think that'd be a good fight. That's what I'd
like to see before and then the winner fight Fury.
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SR to listen live. Today they held Kobe's memorial at
(28:08):
the Staples Center and it was great. I mean, you know, Rob,
since this happened and I was the next day, I
was on all our shows. I co hosted First Things
First that Monday after it happened, and that was three hours,
and then I did Undisputed with skipping Shannon and the
Herd with Colin and Yeah and doing all those shows. Honestly,
(28:32):
it was a bit therapeutic and being able to just
talk it out and talk out all your feelings about
Kobe and his great career and just the loss and everything,
and I you know, it's it's hard to think about it,
and so I've kind of tried not to think about
it much because when you start thinking about it, you know,
it's just hard to believe that he isn't here. But today,
(28:52):
obviously you're thinking about it when you're watching the memorial,
and they did a great job. It was classy. I
thought it was something befitting Kobe Bryant and his greatness.
I agree with the people that they had, you know,
star studded people who were close to him, and you
know what I mean. It wasn't like, well why are
(29:12):
they up there? Or you know what I mean? It
was right. It was done right. But I also think, Chris,
the bigger message that came out of this is I
think people it really like shook a lot of people
life wise, because you see a guy like Kobe Bryant
who has the world, has everything, every reason to live.
(29:34):
He's famous, he's rich, do you know what I mean,
He's had all of these great things happened in his life,
and to lose your life at forty one years old,
with so much life to live, so many other things
to go, you know, to do, and your daughters there
as well, and you leave your other three daughters and
your wife. I just think a lot of people were
(29:55):
jolted and like because the one thing I still remember
from that day, what's people were saying, No, not Kobe,
do you know, like because like he was gonna overcome that, right,
do you know what I mean? No, not Kobe, because
it's so shocking, and I think in in uh, the
(30:16):
millennials and younger people, they just haven't experienced something like that,
not like we've had other situations were a little older,
but but of that magnitude, that kind of star who's
done so much to be that young, had a second
act was going in his life after successful, right you
know what I mean, Like when he had started to
(30:38):
turn the page and people looked at Kobe was a
little more out there sitting you know, sitting watching his
daughter's play, uh, chiming in on women's basketball, right, a
lot of stuff. So I think it was a joke
that wow, you know what I mean, that we lost
Kobe Bryant. So yeah, it was a reminder that life
can be very, very cruel and abrupt, right, no doubt
(31:00):
about it. The finality of it, um as you said,
the abruptness. But it was some great highlights. And his wife,
Vanessa did a tremendous job, you know. I mean she's
not a public speaker, going up there in front of
what twenty thousand people whatever it was, and know and
you know all the other people watching. Oh yeah, she
did a terrific job. Here's an excerpt of what she said.
(31:21):
Kobe was the MVP of Girl Dads or MVD. He
never left the toilet seat up. He always told the
girls how beautiful and smart they are. He taught them
how to be brave and how to keep pushing forward
when things get tough. Yeah, she did a great She
let you in, you know, obviously every she knew Kobe
(31:45):
Brownt better than anybody, and she let you in and
talked about what he was like as a husband, what
he was like as a dad, with you know, specific
because stories I would hope it would be about that
and not basketball. She knew about a totally different love
and hardly talk about That's not for her to talk about.
Plenty of other people could talk about how grad he
was so right, And people didn't even talk about his
(32:09):
greatness as a player. I mean it was touched on obviously, right, right,
but more people talked about, you know, him as a person.
And there was a story she told where she said that,
you know, she used to pick the girls up from school,
um when you know, obviously when Kobe was playing, but
then when she had started, you know, had the younger kids.
She would stay home with him, and Kobe would pick
(32:30):
him up and she had told him, look, I was
never late, so don't don't be late. And one time
he was late, and of course, you know, they all
ribbed him about it and talked to talk to him
about that. She said, from that point on, every day
he not only was he on time, he would show
up an hour and twenty minutes early every day, twenty
(32:53):
minutes to make sure he wasn't late. So that was amazing.
That was an amazing story. Michael Jordan's. It was very emotional. Yes,
he cried just about the whole way through, right, And
you know, I knew he had. He and Kobe had
a good relationship, but Kobe, knowing how many people knew
the depth of the relationships, Kobe wanted to be you
(33:15):
you know, you remember I want to be like I did.
Was times early on Chris when I would listen to
Kobe sound, and God, does sound like Michael Jordan's even
down to that, even the way he walked, even the
wrist band on the yell boll, I mean, it was,
it was. It was incredible what Kobe tried to do
(33:37):
to be like he wanted to be Michael Jordan, like
developing the post game. Yes, he is the closest thing. Now.
I don't think he's the second greatest player to Jordan,
but he is the closest thing we've ever seen to
Michael Jordan. I mean his game, as you say it
is walk was this very much like Jordan's, very much
like you like. I mean, clearly he mimicked a lot
(33:59):
of what Michael Jordan did. Um, but Jordan had a
nice joke about you know, we all seen the crime meme.
You know they've worn that out on the internet, but
they about to wear out another one. Here's Mike. Now
he's got me. I don't have to look at another
crime meme for the NIX. I just like, Um, I
(34:28):
like that he didn't botch me, you know, like right pressed,
but I was he didn't. He didn't, I probably would
have fumbled the world about the same age. Yeah, I
think he might be one year older than me, is he.
I think he's going on the Golden Girls cruise. He
might be on the cool Way. No, how, Michael Jordan
is too cool to go in the Golden Girls. I'm
(34:49):
gonna be even cooler once I get back and everybody
sees the pictures and the babes and the cheesecake and
the four o'clock dinners. Watch is right about that? Four
and then um Shock And I thought it was great
that they had Shock speak because we all know about
the you know, relationship issues and even admitted that he
(35:13):
had but that he hadn't talked to him in four years, right, right,
But I don't think it was that. No, I'm just saying,
know they obviously that they disliked each other, Um No,
But I'm just saying that was what Shack said that
you know, that's last time he talked to him, was
what his last game was? That what he was, right,
That's what I'm said. But the point to that is,
(35:35):
you know sometimes people like, uh, you know, you don't
talk to somebody or you hold a girl, you just
don't know that you may never talk to him again.
And that's really the message in that. But I thought
having Shocks speak, uh what and you know you could
haved Derek Fisher, who he was close with as a teammate,
but having Shock I thought that was a nice you know,
(35:57):
that showed that they were cool. They had let bygones
be bygones. And you know that even Vanessa him, you know,
it was like Shock's a part of our quote unquote family,
so to speak. So here here's Shaq told a funny
story about how he first game respect for Kobe to
day Kobe game I respect was the guys were complaining,
(36:19):
said Shaq, Kobe's not passing the ball. I said, I'll
talk to him. I said, Kobe, there's no and Kobe said,
I know, but there's an and there it is. I
was good some levity, right, Oh, we had everything emotion levity.
(36:40):
It was great. It was well done. And you know,
from now and we'll just celebrate Kobe and the great memories.
And the NBA did a nice thing by naming that
All Star MVP Trophy after him. I think that was
the right touch. We had talked about a couple of ideas. Chris,
and I think that that that means you forever right
that I thought they should have retired numbers eight and
(37:02):
twenty four League, but um, you know it's fine. I
mean I never thought they were going to change the logo.
I mean I thought that was no. Most people think
if they do, if they do, it should be Michael
would be Michael, right, Yeah, which I would tend to
agree with.
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