Tom Brady Made a Huge Mistake!

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to catch us live every weekday from seven pm to
ten pm Eastern four to seven pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live
every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R.

(00:26):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, it is the
I Couple. I'm Chris Bruce Hard alongside my partner Parker,

(00:47):
and we are coming to you live from the Geico
Fox Sports Radio Studio. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen
percent of more in your car insurance. Visit Geico dot
com for a free rate quote. And wow, what a day.
What a day. It started early early this morning. Tom
Brady goes on social media and says he will not

(01:12):
return to the New England Patriots. So, as you can imagine,
we got three hours of talk surrounding that and other
news going on in the NFL. A lot of stuff
happened in a lot of quarterbacks on the move, most
notably the goat, and we will get to that. So
stick with us for the next three hours here on

(01:32):
Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio App or Serious XM channel
eighty three. You won't be disappointed. We'll be joined at
the bottom of this hour by Patriots beat reporter for
the Boston Globe Jim McBride. No one better to talk
to right now than him, will find out all the
sentiments up there in New England and how they're handling

(01:55):
this news. But let me welcome in my partner, mister RYD. Parker.
What's up, man? How are you? I got one thing
to say. I was right. I was right. I told
you what I'm Brady and reporters out there with New England.

(02:17):
I think I'm moving to Mexico. I told you that's
all the night. Wow did you break that? No? All
the side? What's the big deal? All the signs I
kept telling you, all the signs, you kept telling me
all this you get That's good? You were right. I mean,
I just you know, that's fine. I'm just trying to

(02:37):
tell you that you were the only guy in America
saying that. I've been saying it for a long time. Chris.
You also saying he going to the charges. I told
you that later. Yeah, I admittes it have done. Did
he signed with Tempa today? Well, we're gonna get into that.
I know Colin has said that, but my point, here's
my point, and good afternoon. Well let's let's introduce the
I Couple Crew and then we'll get into it, all right,

(02:58):
can we do that? Today? We have mister Gavin Kinsell
in for Rob g the Mega Producer as he's out today.
We have the one and only DJ Alex tishert Aka
as Chris likes to say, Alex the Vegan on the
Ones and twos, David Gascon with the updates from around
the world through your radio today, and of course the
Couple Crew. Baby, let's get it. No, no interns. We

(03:20):
have officially sent the interns home. I have the right
thing to do. We care about the safety. Yes, right,
all right, now go ahead and gloat. I was right.
I was in right, alright. I told you you kept saying, oh, no,
he's gonna come back. This is the thing. It makes
sense gets you. No, I'm just saying, but I was

(03:43):
trying to tell you that nobody sends their girlfriend out
to go get a better offer and then come back
to me. That was my thing, Chris. If Robert Kraft
really wanted Tom Brady to stay in New England, he
could have made it happen. And when they offered him
a one air craft is saying that's no, it wasn't.

(04:04):
It was the pay. I'm just saying, that's what he says.
That's what they're saying. So they could just wash the
hands of it, and I get it. Instead, that's what
they did make make it so that Tom Brady, we
gave him an offer and he decided not to come back. No,
they didn't. They never wanted him back. Uh. Robert Kraft
was able to uh stave off Bill Belichick a couple

(04:26):
of years ago with the Jimmy Garoppolo. We know that
he wanted to get rid of him. Back then, Chris
and Robert Kraft said no, Brady stuck around. He happened
to win another Super Bowl and it still wasn't good enough.
Bill Belichick wanted to move on, and that's why they
gave him a low ball one year offer. And now

(04:47):
he has what thirty million dollar offers on the table
or whatever, okay on the table. But my point is
they never wanted Tom Brady to come back. And I
got that sense really early on because I didn't understand
why he moved his family out of New England why
I put his house off for sale, why he kept

(05:08):
talking about the Patriots. Go check around, go check what
your value is and all that. If they really wanted
him to wear a Patriots uniform for his entire career,
they could have made it happen. And it was just money.
And the other part is this is this shouldn't come
as a surprise, Chris, because we've talked about this. Look
at all the great quarterbacks who finished up elsewhere. This

(05:31):
is just what happens in the NFL. Tom Brady's not
the first and he won't be the last. Here's the
one thing though, that's different from all of those situations,
Because you're right, Joe Montana finished up in Kansas City.
You could just stop right there. It was four and oh,
right with the forty nine ers. You could just stop
there if that guy, because you obviously had other other no. No,

(05:53):
but I'm just saying it's not Montana. But I'm just
meaning if you're four and no and did what he
did and you could move on from that, God, then
anybody can be moved on. But here's the thing. They
had Steve Young. Wait, who's another Hall of Famer waiting
in the wings. Peyton Manning when he left, when Indianapolis
moved on from him, they had Andrew luck waiting in

(06:17):
the wings. You know, when Brett Farve, when Green Bay
moved on from him, they had Aaron Rodgers waiting in
the wings, another Hall of famer. New England's got Jared Stidham.
I mean, that's the thing. Like New England is not
going to win much this year, and I do think
Belichick wants to show that he can win without Tom Brady.

(06:41):
And that's fine. You know, everybody's competitive. He's as competitive
as they get, will see. But I do agree with
you with what we were talking about yesterday. They did
create the atmosphere one year offer at that, and I
don't think I get why he did it under those circumstances,

(07:05):
because they just they just made it too hard. They didn't.
I mean, you look at all these guys the fine
Digs traded. Were the Patriots in the running for him.
You know, all these guys that are out there that
DeAndre Hopkins were the Patriots in the running for him.
Bill O'Brien from Bill Belichick's coaching tree is the guy

(07:26):
that moved him. Were they ever in the running, were
they trying to give Brady the money, the weapons, the
things that he wanted. And I'm telling you right look,
I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I would
feel comfortable giving Tom Brady a two or three year
deal because he's forty three years old. I don't care

(07:46):
how good he's been. He's forty three and at some
point it's gonna fall off. He's going to fall off.
But a one year offer at a pay cut is
just crazy. It's in salted way to regret it. They're
going to regret it. And we'll get into this later.

(08:07):
But Bill Belichick, as great a coach as he is,
the record without Brady is not good, not even not great,
not good. I know recently all he won with Jacobe
bras said and Jimmy Garoppolo. Overall, it's not good. And
we'll see how good he is without mister Brady. But

(08:30):
I so I The question Rob, I want to get
to is was it a mistake? Was this the right
move for Brady? Because you know, obviously twenty years in
New England, you're going to a place with a new
You're gonna be in a new system. You know, we'll
see if you have as good of an offensive line

(08:51):
you know, it's just a whole new situation. You're forty
three years old. You don't move that well anymore. You
don't throw it down field that well anymore. Was this
the right move for him in your opinion? Well, even
though we don't know where he's going, the right move
because there's a degree of respect that people want and

(09:13):
pride and it gets in a way. It happens all
the time with people. People want to be treated a
certain way and if they're not treated that way, it
it can destroy a relationship. It just can. And I
think that's what happened with Brady, the whole notion that
he had to go out and and and go field
offers from other people. This just remind and then and

(09:36):
then the stuff you talked about with Digs and Hopkins
or whatever. This reminds me of when Michael Jordan left
the Bulls right right. It's exactly the same thing Michael
Jordan said, if you bring back Phil Jackson, I'll I'll
consider staying. That's exactly what he said, Chris right right
or up. And the first thing the Bulls did was

(09:58):
what Firefield ja him when not we signed It was
the first so they told Michael Jordans, we don't want you.
That's think about that. I think about what happened because
people are saying, how could you move on from Tom Brady.
Michael Jordan wasn't forty three. Yes, Michael Jordan was still
the best player in the world. He had just won

(10:20):
his third straight championship six overall, still was the best
player in the world. And they didn't want him. And
that's a lesson, Rob because that shows And what did
Jerry Crouse the GM want to do. He wanted to
prove I can win without Jordan's Yeah, I remember something too.

(10:40):
I found Scottie Pippen. I went out and got Dennis
Rodman shooters around right right. Tony Kukos, Yeah, I went
and discovered Tony Kukos. That's what he wanted to show.
How did that work out? It didn't ever want anything
since then, no, it did. But that was That's what

(11:01):
reminded me of the Brady thing, just that the organization
went against what the guy was looking for. And once
you do that, and it's so blatant and over the top,
and and and you know so so I to you
on that, then I agree that under the circumstances, I

(11:22):
mean it was just disrespectful. Brady was right. I think
though the Patriots made a mistake. I think they made
a mistake because again they don't unless Jared stood him
is much better than we think. Unless they're going out
who they're getting Teddy Bridgewater reportedly is going to be
in Carolina. I don't think they're bringing in cam Newton.

(11:45):
Who's left who's out there? So so they're going into
this season, I mean, do they get go back and
try to get Jacobe Brissette now that you know Philip
Rivers is going to Indianapolis. I think they made a mistake.
One more. You are twelve and four. Last year, you
beat Buffalo twice, you beat Philly, you beat Dallas, you

(12:06):
beat you played the Titans better than Baltimore did in
the playoffs. I know Brady wasn't great. They should have
went out and got one of those stud receivers that
were on the market and made one more run at it.
This was a mistake by the New England Patriots. They
were nothing before Brady went there. I know Parcels had

(12:27):
him relatively successful, never won anything. They were nothing without him,
and we'll see. I think they made a mistake and
they're gonna soon fade back to being a mediocre slightly
above average team. Enfranchise. They didn't make a mistake because
they didn't want to pay them. They didn't want to
pay the forty two. When you create a monster, Chris,

(12:49):
when you and that's what happened. They created a monster
because Bill Belichick at the time, when he wanted to
cut ties, they weren't. He didn't. He wasn't allowed to
do with the overruled him. So then Brady won another
Super Bowl, so he felt like, oh no, I can
play till forty five. I'm I'm different from anybody else

(13:10):
who's ever played in the National Football League, and I
want more money as I get older, and I want
a better contract as I get older. They created the
monster because they kept him right at right after because
they wanted to get rid of my thing after they
lost right in the Super Bowl before they won the
last one, right you know what I mean the year

(13:30):
before that one. But that shows that they were premature.
But I'm just saying he didn't need to get rid
of him. He could he won you another super Bowl.
But Brady was terrible in that Super Bowl. Wasn't terrible.
Championship I'm just telling you that's why they And he
wasn't he wasn't paid. It wasn't Peyton Manning when in
his last Super Bowl it wasn't that bad. And he

(13:53):
and he hasn't been that bad. I know he hadn't
been the old Tim Brady, but he hadn't been horrible. Yeah,
he had no weapon. So I think they made a mistake.
What do you guys think? Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine. Was this a mistake on Tom Brady's part?

(14:16):
Was he right to leave the Patriots or is he wrong?
And was it right for the Patriots to move on? Essentially,
they created a situation where Brady almost had no choice
but to move on. Will they regrett it? You're turning
away in we will continue this conversation with you. Next
is The Eye Couple Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to

(14:38):
catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussard
and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. It's
The Couple. Chris Brussard, Rob Parker on the DJ Alex
Tisha Tuesday, We're coming to you live from the Geico
Fox Sports Radio studios. It's easy to say fifteen percent

(15:01):
of more in your car insurance with Geico. Go to
Geico dot com or call eight hundred nine four seven
eight uto. The only hard part, let's figuring out which
way is easy? All right? Who's in the right, who's
in the wrong? And this split up, this divorce of
the greatest quarterback of all time in many people's opinions

(15:22):
and the greatest coach of all time in many people's opinions.
You'll turned away in eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Let's get to the calls, Rob, All right, let's start
with Vick and Tampa Bay. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Vic? Yeah, guys, Um,
I don't know. I'm I'm I'm I'm anna stare uh
nfl um obvious uh follower. And I know that if

(15:47):
even if Tom Brady, like you guys, were to expect
to leave the Patriots, I don't think that was really
something that was going to happen. I honestly think that
if he's gonna go somewhere that he feels comfortable with,
it's it's a choice he's gonna make, whether if it's

(16:07):
even anymore, if it's Bill Belichick's fault, but he made
that decision. I think that in the Tampa Bay area
as as as um relations and a native and just
an obvious, you know, follower and a supportive person with
the Buccaneers, if they were to make a serious, you know, transaction,

(16:28):
I mean, he's gonna be in that slot and and
for the first time and forever. I don't I don't
hate Jameis Winston. And I'm not obviously you know, you know,
gonna deny it. But you got the pig. Yeah, well no, no,
I'm just saying that that I didn't know this was happening.

(16:48):
But but from the god honest opinion from an organization
from New England to Tampa to whoever wants to sign him,
I think that if he's gonna make a decision to
play quarterback and to be successful, then then the choice
is going to be healthy and all right, all right,
big thanks, let's go to uh, let's go to Tony

(17:08):
and Maine. Tony and Maine. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. Gentlemen, first time caller, long time
listening for you, guys. But I got to take issue
with one statement that you made before the break record.
Thank you absolutely, the record of the Patriots without Tom Brady.
Let's just go back to the Matt Castle years without

(17:31):
a year eleven and five though, guys, eleven and five,
don't say, guys, that's Chris who doesn't without yeout Tony.
You challenge me, Belichicks has seven seasons without Brady? How
many has he made the playoffs? In him? Agreed? But
let's talk about the seasons one with Tom Brady with

(17:53):
the Patriots. That's all we're talking about here, with Tom
Brady with Patriots, and that's eleven and five, one season
when Matt Castle, then four they did not make the playoffs.
I will give you that. You guys mentioned overall records.
You challenged me, what do you do the year before
Brady became the starter? Second? What was Belichick in New

(18:17):
England his first year before Brady became the starter with
an all pro quarterback and Drew bledsoe, we're going We're
going all the way black, Yeah, we are, because you
brought it up. Five. Hey, let's let's do this five
and thirteen before Brady took over and led him to
the Super Bowl. Let's move forward. Brady's going, Tony, Is
this the right decision? Yes or no? For Tom Brady. Brady,

(18:40):
he put his time in New England. It's starting to
move on. He needs to get paid. He needs this contract.
Absolutely right decision. Okay, thank you, Tony, appreciate. What about
Max and Georgia. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up Max? Hey, gentlemen, always a pleasure.
This is no shock or surprise. I think we talked
about this several weeks ago, and we discussed that Tampa

(19:02):
was on the radar, but I think I think there
was some pooh pooh and going on. I know Robbie
were big on San Diego. He almost had me convinced,
having said that the Bucks just makes sense, the offense,
the way it's going. The big receivers. Now Tom has
no excuses, so you better show up, you better come out.
It was signs with Tampa, right. Tampa is to me,

(19:23):
he's got a big look and I'm not trying to
defend him. He's got a built in excuse. He's forty three.
If he goes there and stinks up to joint, the
only idiots will be like, Ah, I see, I told
you wasn't any good. He's forty three. Michael Jordan couldn't
lead the Wizards to the playoffs in Washington? Did that?

(19:44):
Did that take away from his legacy? No? And I'm
it just is what it is. He's forty three. Nobody's
gonna be like I told you he's term. He's forty three.
He got a use. Okay, how about let's go to
Mark and Sacramento. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's going on, gentlemen? Hey? Mark, you guys,

(20:06):
make sure you keep the calls to what we're talking about.
I'm not saying you right, we're gonna hit all the
other Yeah, let's let's it. Was this the right decision
for Tom Brady on the Patriots in my opinion? In
my opinion, it was the right for both. It was
the Patriots. You can tell this was contentious. They weren't
gonna pay him. They wanted to move on. I think
they made that decision at forty three. I think they

(20:28):
made a business decision. It was the right one. And Chris,
you always say this every time I bring it up.
He said he ain't got no weapon. He ain't got
no weapons when he show got a lot of them
down in Tampa Bay. There's a couple of big, giant tightens,
a really good offensive line, and two stud wide receivers.
He's got no more excuses. Now we'll find out, Hey, guys,
real quick. If I was the Patriots, I'd make I'd

(20:50):
make one call. I'd make a call to find out
what's this guy's rights is? And I see what the
heck Andrew Luck was feeling right about. Now I was them,
That's just me. I don't you might as well make
the call. That's a good you know, But I don't.
I don't think. But I don't think that it would
be that simple that his rights because he retired, and

(21:10):
you know what I mean, I'm not so sure. If
I'm in Indianapolis and I gave him the rest of
his contract, he couldn't do that, do you know what
I mean? Like, I don't see. Yeah, I don't know
how many yavin. Can you look up how many years
he had left left? Because you know, they might still
have his rights or something. I'm just guessing. All right,
let's go to uh did we get to yea Isaiah

(21:31):
in Baltimore? You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Isaiah, Hey you guys. So I'm gonna say
I think this was rights for both sides of deal
for the page reasons for Brady. I'm gonna say it
like this. Now Pro Football Focus had the Buccaneers offensive
line right number seven out. Are already two teams. They
have two top tens deceiasons with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.

(21:54):
I agree with Chris. I don't know if people are
gonna be able to say all those little seasons because
he is forty three. But I'm saying like this, if
Brady's as good as you still think he is, there
has to be at least a playoff. Because the Buccaneers,
they they tasted victory before, you know, earlier the century,
so the and they've been waiting for this moment as
they've been waiting for a chance to win again, and

(22:14):
now they have to go to try and hopefully, you know,
maybe if it's just like a Joe montcam in Kansas
City where he can get him too an NFC championship game,
I think they would be satisfied with that. You know,
um just taught the taste of victory again. And I
don't know, I don't know what tell you this? Go ahead? Oh,
I was gonna say, what about the Patriots? Was this

(22:36):
right for them? Now? The Patriots is interesting because, like
you guys said, we don't know who's on the who's
in the market form. I mean, are they gonna trade
for cam Meeton. Are they gonna trade for a top
five ten pick and maybe snacked two attack of Alwa
or Junkie Hurder from all Oregon. They can do that,
you know, So it's gonna be interesting. I think this

(22:58):
is all about Brady and Bella's check famally. Okay, we're
gonna see who needed to do do Yeah, even though it's
gonna it took a long time. We're gonna see who's
gonna be more successful off the other. A lot of
people feel like Brady's gonna win the short term because
of where he's going, He's gonna be in a better
situation and tech a day right now. But we're gonna
see if Bill Belizec has truly evolved from the coach
he was in Cleveland, or if it really was more

(23:20):
about Brady and Robert Craft and everything like that. I
appreciate the call let's talk to Craig in Maine. Let's
squeeze him in Chris. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Hey guys, thanks for the call. All right, First,
I want to address the mass Castle thing. And it
ain't about him winning eleven games. It's how the hell
did he lose five games with that lineup the pat

(23:42):
Pad that year when Brady got hurt? Okay, so you
with me, Yeah, you know how he even little five games?
You know what I mean? But anyways, as far as
the right decision, of course, is the right decision. I
mean your last call, you know, said the wide receivers
and the offensive line as plus O. J. Howard at
tight end. I mean, and then look at the defenses
he's gotten that. I mean, the Saints they're all right,

(24:04):
the Panthers they're in disarray. The Falcons they're the Falcons.
I mean, Brady's going into a really, really good position.
And what the Patriots did to him. I mean, I
don't care if he limped out there. The ship's sinking.
You don't bail, you know you don't, and you know
Belichick's the captain. He bailed. If this was this was
this was pure Belichick through and through. This is what

(24:27):
he does. We shouldn't look at it like I mean,
we we think a Tom Brady deserves better treatment, and
I think he does. But we shouldn't be surprised. This
is what Belichick's done with all their players, right, this
is what they do. That's not what they do. Yep,
all right. We'll be joined by Jim McBride, Patriots Beat
reporter for The Boston Globe, in moments. But first, Fox

(24:48):
Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot
com and within the iHeart Radio app search f SR
to listen live. We got Jim McBride coming up right
now on the Discover Cards Celebrity hotline. And you want
to hear something amazing. Discover matches all the cash back

(25:09):
you earn at the end of your first year automatically.
And it's even more amazing because discovers accepted it over
ninety five percent of the places in the United States
that take credit cards. Learn more at Discover dot com.
Slash Yes twenty nineteen Nielsen Report limitations do apply, Okay,
Jim McBride, the Patriots beat reporter for the Boston Globe

(25:31):
Joining the Eye couple now, Jim, welcome, Thanks for having me, guys,
busy day of course. Yeah, just this looks like it
was just Belichick was ready to move on, and that's
what this all boiled down to. It Is it fair
to say that I think both of both parties were

(25:53):
ready to move on. You know, I know there's been
a you know, a national narrative the last couple of
years that has been a hund lying rift between coach
Belichick and Tom but you know, those of us out
of the dear on a daily basis never really saw that.
So I think it was just a case where, you know,
it was time to move on for both of them.
We saw their interactions every day in the locker room

(26:13):
and on the practice field and it was never any different.
So um, I think it was just one of those
things that you know, both both both parties just said, look,
it's it's time for a breath of fresh year. But
I don't think there was any you know, uh, you know,
rift or or crack in the foundation or anything like that.
I just think it was, you know, it was time

(26:33):
to move on, and both parties wanted a fresh start.
There's certainly no um as far as I could tell
of the last by years, no animosity between the parties.
Here's the thing Tom Brady seemed like when the Patriots
offer him a one year contract at a paid cut,
that's not gonna go over well with a guy who's
been in your organization for twenty years and one you
six super bowls. To me, that was a signal. And

(26:56):
then the other part is that Brady wanted to be
paid like a big time quarterback, which he really never was,
always taken less. How much did money factor in, or
at least a pride of money factor into this, Maybe
a little bit, But you know, Tom's been the ultimate
team guy for twenty years, a guy that that you know,
never looked at other people's paychecks or their bank accounts,

(27:18):
just kind of took what he needed and what he's
all comfortable with to make this franchise go and to
make sure there were always weapons around him. So I
can't imagine that he woke up one morning and just said, hey,
I'm a superstar. I need to be paid more than
anyone else. So I think maybe a little bit, But
we first saw the you know, the kind of the

(27:38):
the indication that Tom might not be back This year
was last year when he signed the three year contract
that had two years voidable at the end of it
and also had the stipulation that he couldn't be franchised.
So that's that's when I think most people around the team,
covering the team thought, you know, this is a real
possibility that this is going to be Tom's last year
in New England. And you know, we kind of forgot
about that as the season went on because they had

(27:59):
a really successful season and you know, losing in the
playoffs of course, but you know, they won the FC
East again and then kind of shortly after that loss
of the Titans when people started to think, oh yeah,
you know, those those those last two years of that
contract avoidable and you know that we could have seen
Tom Brady's last game as a Patriot, and the longer
it went on without him agreeing to a new deal,
but more the reality, you know, kind of hit and

(28:21):
that kind of hit home today. But I don't think
it was as stunning as you know, waking up and
finding out out of the blue that Tom Brady wasn't there.
I think a lot of Patriots Nation was kind of
bracing themselves for this, Jim, I thought it seemed like
Brady definitely wanted more weapons. We kind of saw that
throughout the year. Obviously, you had guys like Stefane Diggs

(28:42):
and DeAndre Hopkins who got traded. Do you think New
England looked at maybe, hey, why don't we try to
go get one of these guys and keep Tom Brady.
Was that every even in consideration on the table or
were they just totally ready to move on no matter
what and they didn't look at upgrading to to satisfy Brady.

(29:03):
You know, from what from what I've been told from
my sources, they they peeked in on both those guys
on Hopkins and Diggs, and the compensation that was was
just prohibitive. But I don't know if if that would
have made changed Tom's mind. I think Tom's mind was
made up, you know before then. Uh, you know, Stefan
Diggs didn't get traded till last night, but Tom had

(29:23):
made his choice last night when he had a conversation
with with uh with Robert Kraft, the team owner, and
informed him with a decision. So, you know, I think
a one of the popular narratives was, yeah, he wanted
more weapons, and what quarterback doesn't. But I think his
mind had already been made up shortly, you know, certainly
certainly after the Hopkins trade and definitely before the the

(29:45):
Stefon Diggs trade. So go ahead, did he So you're
saying Brady wanted out? And we know, uh, Robert Craft
told that this esp and Stephen A. Smith this morning
as well. I did him this morning as well too.
And and that's you know, he may ask what he said,
but did he did? He? Did he one out? Because

(30:07):
they weren't willing to you know, they reportedly they wanted
him to take a pay cut, They only wanted to
give him a one year deal. He didn't, you know,
they didn't upgrade. Did he one out? Because it felt
like they just weren't doing the things? He won it?
Or did he did? He just won out? Maybe to
prove he can win without Bill or you know what
I mean? Like, why why did he one out? Yeah, Chris,

(30:27):
that's the question I'd like to, you know, ask Tom myself.
And I'm not sure we're gonna find the answer out
until he actually signs with another team, whether that's that's
Tampa Bay tomorrow or not. And he has that introductory
prescompsin and someone actually gets to ask him that question.
But um, you know, as far as whether he felt
like he wanted to win without Bill, I've been asked
that question a lot, whether Bill felt like he wanted

(30:48):
to win without Tom or vice versa. And you know,
I've never gotten those vibes from either one of those guys.
The winning has always been so important to them that
if they thought the best way to win was to
stay together, they were going to stay together. And if
they thought the best way to win was to separate,
the nail separate. So I never really got that feeling that, hey,
I need to prove that I can do without Bill,
or I can need to prove I can do it

(31:08):
without Tom. I think they just they just want to
win it, however it takes. That's what they're gonna do.
And apparently all the indications, at least the ESPN dot
com is saying, and Colin Cowherd earlier was the first
one to say that it's a done deal in Tampa
Bay and that's where he's gonna announce his signing tomorrow.
Where are you on that? Just on him going to

(31:29):
Tampa Bay the fit and are you shocked that he
would go from the Patriots uniform to Tampa Bay's uniform
or no, this is just par for the course. He's
going to get what he wants. Yeah, it's still it's
still kind of shocking to think that he's going to
be in any other uniform. I know, you know, Boston
certainly in shock. Here is Saint Patrick's Day and people
can't even go out to the bars and drown their

(31:50):
sorrows over Tom Brady sous It's pretty it's pretty amazing
to think he's going to be in another uniform. Uh,
you know, certainly they're ire advantages in Tampa Bay. He's
got some some really good weapons down there. They have
a good offensive line, Bruce arians loves to throw the ball,
so you know, there's a lot of advantages to go
in there. And you know, if the reports are true
that he's getting sixty million for two years, good luck.

(32:14):
That's sixty million for two years and all the hoos
that he could eat. I think down a tample, right, Jim,
thanks a lot, man. We appreciate the time. Okay, guys,
thank you more. I Couple coming up Fox Sports Radio.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

(32:35):
with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. You tuned into the I Couple Chris and
Rob on this Tuesday, and of course Rob, in the
third hour, you know what time it is, trash talking
to Tuesday. That's right, in the third hour, you will

(32:58):
get to call in and trash any one or anything
in the world of sports. Could be me, could be
the Eye Couple, whoever you want to trash, It's your turn.
Third hour of the show. But Rob, let's take a
short short break because obviously the news of the day
is Tom Brady leaving the Patriots and all the reports

(33:19):
are indicating he's going to sign with Tampa Bay tomorrow.
Colin got it right, Let's give him credit, right right, definitely.
Colin Cowhurt said that earlier today on his show The Herd.
And but let's let's pause for a moment on that
and talk about another quarterback, maybe two other quarterbacks who

(33:40):
on the move. Teddy Bridgewater going to Carolina three years,
sixty three million dollars. Of course, that means Cam Newton
is on the move. They'll certainly try to trade him.
But if they can't trade him, they'll just release him.
And how do you feel? I like it. I think
that Bridgewater obviously has proven himself to be a winning

(34:01):
type quarterback. I'm not saying he's spectacular individually, but he
is a leader. He does galvanize the players and get
their confidence. He's twenty two and twelve as a starter,
was five and oh in New Orleans last year as
a starter, and in his last three starts really through
the football well, wracked up a lot of yardage. And

(34:21):
remember Joe Brady, the OC for Carolina, worked with Bridgewater
and I granted Bridgewarter was the backup, but he was.
He was there in New Orleans two years before he
went to LSU and turned Joe Burrow into a superstar.
So Brady and Bridgewater will be reunited, So Bridgewater will
be comfortable with Brady's system is offense. They know each

(34:44):
other obviously. Brady put in a huge word for him
in Carolina that this guy has the goods we need
to get him. So I actually think this could be
a really good move for Carolina. Yeah, I mean just
because I think there's an owner who was lukewarm even
talking about Cam so I think the writing was on

(35:05):
the wall. He just wants to start with his own guy.
Even though Cam had that unbelievable season fifteen and one,
won the NFL MVP and looked like he was taking
that next step, and just had an awful game in
the Super Bowl, like one that you could not have
ever imagined. And and then you remember he didn't deal
with the media right, and it just it all went

(35:27):
downhill from there and then came the injury. So I'm
not surprised that they've just decided to try something different Teddy.
You know, Teddy's had a shot in Minnesota, they were
pretty good with him, has been injured but played well
with New Orleans. So why not give it a shot
and see if he can stay a stay healthy and

(35:48):
continue to play like he did in Minnesota, which was
not bad. I think they were five and old when
he started, so um yea, yeah, remember Minnesota. I mean
before he got hurt. Remember when he hurt his knee
in practice, His teammates were devastating because they like so much,
they loved him. Yeah, so, and he was being you know,

(36:09):
at that point, people were thinking he was really you know,
en route to kind of becoming a top quarterback, so
we'll see what he does. He'll get his chance. He's
got the great running back and Christian McCaffrey, so we'll
see what he can do there. Cam. That's gonna be
interesting to see where he ends up. Look, the Chargers
need a quarterback. If they're not getting Tim Brady, who
they getting? So could could Cam end up there? You

(36:34):
need somebody? Lisi's a name, right, Yeah, Well they need
something that the Brady stuff that they Brady's getting thirty
million a year, which Chris that again talks about the
money thing, and it did factor in and they got
a good team, but it factor in. We will get
back to the Tim Brady talk and we'll let you
weigh in as well. A couple keeper locked. Fox Sports

(36:56):
Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot
com and within the iHeart Radio app search f SR
to listen live. It is the I Couple. I am Chris,
he is Rob and we are coming to you live
from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios. Fifteen minutes could
save you fifteen percent or more on your car insurance.

(37:19):
Visit Geico dot com for free rate quote. You can
also follow a robbing me on social media. Rob is
at Rob Parker FS one on both Twitter and Instagram.
I am at Chris Underscore Bruce Art on Twitter. Chris
Brusar sixty eight on The Graham will be joined by
Jimmy Dikes, the ESPN basketball analyst. He will join us

(37:39):
at the bottom of this hour as we take a
break from the football to talk a little bit about
the obviously the march madness that wasn't and what this
means for college basketball. Jimmy Dikes at the bottom of
the hour. But of course, right now let's talk NFL
and more specifically Tom Brady and Rob. As you we

(38:00):
said last hour, all the reports are indicating that Tom
Brady is going to go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
for a two year deal sixty million dollars. Is it
sixty or is it a little more than sixty? I
saw sixty two years, sixty million dollars. And look, and

(38:22):
let's give Colin Cowherd credit, because you know, a lot
of times there's NFL insiders and all these people, you know,
and he was the first one on this morning who
put it out there, Chris, and you got it right. Yep, yep.
Shout out to Colin, one of our good friends and colleagues,
does a great job, and that's that's great for him.

(38:42):
That's a big story and he got it. Yep, yep um.
I talked yesterday, and you know, the reports coming out
yesterday were that it was down to New England and
Tampa Bay. Those were the only two teams that were
really in the running for Tom Brady. Obviously the Chargers
looks like they made a run, but he's not going there.

(39:04):
And I didn't really like the idea of him going
to Tampa yesterday. That's why I said, I think at
the end of the day, if he wants to play,
he might end up back in New England, or probably
will end up back in New England. But the more
I think about it, the more I actually do like him.
In Tampa Bay one we know they've got and we
knew this yesterday. Obviously they got great receivers, not good receivers.

(39:29):
They have a great receiving core, Mike Evans, Chris God.
When they got a couple of tight ends who were good.
They got a core, all right, He's going to have
somebody to throw too. They've got one of the better
offensive lines in the league, so he's gonna be protected.
I know Jameis Winston got hit a lot, but that

(39:50):
was a lot of that was on Winston's all right,
Tom Brady obviously gets rid of the ball quickly. I
don't think they'll have a problem with that in Tampa
Bay and the defense, which year look gave up a
lot of points, but over the last several weeks of
the season, about a month and a half, last month
and a half of the regular season, their defense was

(40:11):
actually very good. It's improving. They got a nice defensive backfield.
Obviously at your head coach, Bruce Arians, he knows what
he's doing. I know he likes to throw the ball
down field a lot, and that I wouldn't think, you know,
from what we saw last year, even the last couple
of years, that's not a strength of Brady's. Wait till

(40:32):
it's my turn, I can't win. But here's the thing.
Bruce Arians is smart enough, rob too. I think of
Jail here. I think it's not just gonna be okay.
I'm putting Tom Brady in my system and he'd better
be able to throw the long ball. I think Bruce
Arians is smart enough to adjust. He's a good coach,
but he's gotta win, you know, he gotta prove he

(40:53):
can win two And you got the great quarterback, as
older as he might be. And I think ariaszaj rob
this actually and I know you always bring this up,
and rightly so. Joe Montana going to Kansas City, this
actually reminds me a lot of Montana when he going

(41:14):
to Kansas City. That Kansas City team not you know,
since way back in what the sixties, fifties whatever it was,
they hadn't been much of a franchise since then since
Lynn Dorsa Dawson, right, he was their quarterback. That I mean,
they were winning before Super Bowl starting then they running
you know, one of the early Super Bowl, the NFL Championship,

(41:36):
and then they did win one of the early ones. Right.
But when when Montana went there, they had Marty Schottenheimer
as their coach and they were a perennial playoff team.
They made the playoffs to three years before Montana got there.
I know, Tampa Bay didn't make the playoffs. They actually
got the second longest streak in the league to Cleveland

(41:56):
with twelve straight years without making the playoffs. But my
point is that Kansas City had some weapons in place.
When Montana went there. It wasn't like he went to
a horrible team and had to turn them around. So
same thing for Brady. They've got some weapons in place,
and I think if he can just go there and

(42:18):
maybe turn around. I'm not predicting a Super Bowl, but
I do think the NFC, for all the good teams
they have, all the teams are the good teams are
all pretty close, and so I give them a shot.
I mean, I'm not gonna see here and write in
the Niners, because that's just not how the NFL has

(42:39):
worked recently. Is you know, oh they got there last year,
they're gonna get back again. That's just not how it's worked.
So I look, I think Tampa Bay, the goals gotta
be playoffs, and we'll see what they can do once
they get there, if they get there. But I actually,
the more I've thought about this, Rob I like this
move to Tampa Bay. I think Tom Brady has made

(43:00):
a huge mistake going to Tampa Bay and this will
end very badly. It will be Emmett Smith ending with
the Arizona Cardinals. It will be Michael Jordan ending with
the Washington Wizards. It's a bad situation. You just said it.
They haven't made the playoffs. They got all these players,

(43:22):
Tom Brady. The one thing Tom Brady can't do anymore
is throw the ball down field. That's nice to have
those receivers unless you're dinking and duncan. How frustrated will
they be? Will Tom Brady be able to be able
to overcome that he doesn't have the same arm strength
arians You brought it up, Chris. He likes to air
the ball out, That's what he does. And I just

(43:44):
don't think they have the right quarterback. I get the money,
grab Tom, sixty million dollars no state tax in Florida,
you know what I mean. Put it in the bank.
You're gonna be rich till the cows come home. But
Tampa Bay will wind up being a disaster and people
will look and go I'm not gonna change anybody's opinion

(44:04):
of Tom Brady, Chris, the same way it didn't when
it came to Michael Jordan in Washington. But I think
this is a bad decision on Tom Brady's part, and
I think it won't work out. And I'm gonna say
right here, right now that they do not an ot
the Wade stands makes the play make the playoffs. In

(44:24):
tom Brady's first year down there, I'll have to see
a lot more from those guys, a lot to see
how tom Brady fits in with those guys and where
he is as a player in arm strength. At the
end of the year, Tom Brady was not the same
guy who carved up all those bad teams and bad
defenses in the beginning of the season, Chris, he was
not that guy. And I will I give Tampa break credit.

(44:48):
They want to change their fortune. Hey, they're gonna sell tickets.
They've been go Look they've their games have been blacked
out at home for years, Chris, for years. People don't
go to that place. And their games were blacked out
for a long time before they they lifted the band
the NFL. So this will be interesting to see how
this works out. Tom Brady has made a mistake in

(45:12):
going to Tampa Bay. Here's the thing. It's a weak division. Now.
I know you got New Orleans, but you and yourself
has said, Drew Brees getting old. He's lasted about twelve
games the last few years, and then after that he
falls off. I'm not saying they're gonna fall off. They're
still gonna be good. But outside of New Orleans, you

(45:34):
got Atlanta, which is scaring nobody. You got Carolina, which
is starting over, new coach, new quarterback. I tell you
what I'm giving Tampa, but I'm not gonna make a
pick today. We'll make our picks when it's time for
the NFL. But I like it. I think it was
a good move. I think they got weapons. I think

(45:54):
he'll go there and play well. He'll obviously get immediate respect.
And look, he doesn't have I know he's not throwing
it like he used to when he had Randy Moss.
But let's not act like he can't throw the ball
thirty yards. I mean he will. He made the most
out of it. Rob Again, they were twelve and four

(46:15):
last year. He's not coming off this horrendous season. Statistically,
he was about the same as Aaron Rodgers. He couldn't
you He could have been in the Pro Bowl and
nobody would have been like, that's ridiculous. So I now again,
he will be forty three. And you always gotta leave

(46:35):
room for just father time to kick in at the
most inopportune moment. You may be the first game of
the season, you just see automatically he don't have it.
Maybe it's the seventh game, fourth game, TIFH game, whatever,
Maybe it doesn't kick in for another year. We'll see.
But what we saw last year that Tom Brady with weapons,

(46:58):
I think he's gonna be able to do fairly well
down there. I would hesitate to give him two years,
but hey, I guess that's what you gotta do when
your Tampa Bay haven't made That's the bad team Tex,
that's the bad team Tex. Chris, That's what I want
you to answer me this, Rob, Because you were big
on him going to the Chargers, do you think it

(47:21):
would have been any different? And I know it was
business reasons, and you're right about every one of them.
They gotta fill this new stadium, they need some buzz.
Nobody cares about him in LA. They needed Brady for
business purposes, But put that aside, and football wise, do
you think it would have been any better? Yeah, they
got weapons, but again, Tampa's got weapons, But why would

(47:42):
it have been better the Chargers or if you think
it would have two years ago the Charges with thirteen
and three or four NFL teams, we come a few
years ago. Now they're trading giving everybody away, Kevin, can
you jump in yeah, good years? Yeah, No, they would,
they would, they would. I just want to get the

(48:02):
record right. There were twelve and four they had won.
They were rolling and and and they were really Yes,
but I'm saying a lot of those pieces are still
there and all you're replacing. And I thought number one
was business and I told you that Chris is business
number two, giving rid of Philip Rivers and putting inserting

(48:23):
Tom Brady there where you're not starting all the way over.
Tom Brady's going to a franchise. Despite what you're talking about,
what's on paper, and those guys, how good they are.
They have made the playoffs in almost a Baker Baker's
dozen years, Chris twelve years in a in the NFL
where parody is supreme, that unbelievable. Arians wasn't there for

(48:47):
all those years He's basically brand Yeah, for two years,
these receivers weren't on there. I mean hack, if Jameis
Winston didn't throw so many interceptions, they might have been
decent last year. I mean that's who their quarterback has been,
Jamis Winston. I'm just wondering why the Chargers would have

(49:08):
been so much of a better fit because of where
they were two years ago. They had it. Last year
was bad things just in it was bad. But I'm
telling you just two years ago when they went to
New England, I fully expected them to beat the Patriots.
That year. They never got off the plane and it
didn't work out. But I think I think the way

(49:28):
ahead of I think they're way ahead of Tampa Bay. No.
I actually liked this move for the for the Buccaneers,
um more so for Brady because if he had to go,
he's got a legit chance. And if that defense can
continue to improve, it's possible that it was a flute

(49:49):
last few games. They really aren't that good. I do
want to say I was just gonna jump in and say,
I think you do have to look a little bit
at the division. Going to a team like the Chargers
where there's Patrick Mahomes staring you down is a pretty
tough task, you know, right, And it wouldn't have been
I haven't. He's supposed to be the goal and you're
supposed to be the gold. And no matter where you go,

(50:11):
no matter where you gopa, no, but ultimately, no matter
where you go. You're gonna still have to play the
best of the best to win. But he's going down
there is Jon doesn't matter where where Patrick Mahomes is.
You still got to be able to win at some point.
My only point is this is gonna end badly. Remember
this one out. But it wouldn't have ended badly with

(50:32):
the Chargers. Is that what you're just telling you? When
Tampa is gonna end badly? What's badly? Not making the playoffs? Yep,
no playoffs for a couple of years. He looks old.
He can't get the ball downfield, and people say, while Tampa,
what a what a waste of sixty million dollars. What's
the tallest building in Tampa? In Tampa, they might as
well go up there with sixty million dollars and throw

(50:54):
it out the window, because that's just what they did.
Tom Brady is a winner. He's a winner. Chris, you
keep saying the same thing. That's what you said, That's
why you know, But that's why you said the pictures
was gonna keep them. The Pictures didn't even want them.
If he was, they didn't want to. Fine, Fine, he

(51:15):
is a winner. He was twelve and four for those
pages I bet you it ain't twelve and four this year.
I want to put some wings on that they won't
be twelve and four this year. How can I bet
you that? I don't even know who the quarterback is yet?
Can I wait to see what the team? Maybe they
bring in somebody great and maybe they get to h
they still won't be twelve and four. You wanna put

(51:35):
some wings on that. I'll wait till I see who
the quarterback? Who they get they aren't going twelve and four.
I'm putting my money where my mouth is, and I
want my mouth to be tasting some lemon pepper wings.
Courtesy of Rob Parker. That's what I'm saying. I have
to win two hundred dollars worth the wings to get

(51:56):
even winning seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It's your
turn the way in What do you think? Is this
a good move for Time Brady to forget the money?
We obviously is a good move to take sixty million
dollars over two years, But football wise, are you with Rob?

(52:20):
Will it in ugly? Or are you with me? I'm
not predicting a Super Bowl, but I think it's a
good fit for him and he made a good football decision.
What say you? A seven seven ninety nine? On Fox
we will continue this conversation with you. Next, it's The
Eye Couple Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussar then Rob

(52:42):
Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Do you hate
your job? Maybe it's time for career change. You can
start your new life as an IT pro and as
little as four months go to my Computer Career dot
edu and take the free career evaluation. It's not rocket science, folks,

(53:05):
is my computer career? All right? You are listening to
the Eye Couple Chris bruss A, Rod Parker, and we
are definitely at odds. Over this time, Brady moved to
Tampa Bay. I like it, Rob, doesn't? What say you?
Eight seven seven ninety nine? Fix? You're turned away in
all right? Let's start Chris with Lisa in Michigan. You're

(53:27):
on the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Lisa? Now?
This is fel Felicia. How are you doing? I want
to say, Rob Stairway from the pole go to tur Well.
Let me say, hey, Felicia, you know I got another

(53:47):
text from Magic City that said, yes, finally they've closed
all the strip clubs and yes, yeah you need to
get tested though. But you know why though. But I
don't think. I ain't up on me. I think I

(54:10):
think I think Tom Brady people need to look at
he's a package deal. At the March sur he tweeted
out to Antonio Brown stay healthy and and and mentally
and physically because he's a package deal. People were rumored
to say that he's gonna go to the laf Vahicles
Law Figures Raiders. That's the debunked because he used a
package deal. So what would have been great if he
would have went to the Chargers, But of course they

(54:30):
chilled somebody today. We'd have been great they get rid
of the team liability liability or demote the second stream
called Baker Mayfield O b J. I think he's out
of there. So it's been great for Antonio Brown call
and then I saw if he would have been a
sunny upset for them to have Dallas Cowboys. Let's face it,
Brady has three asterisks out of his three out of

(54:50):
six super Bowl. That's right, let's wha he had? Okay,
he has three actions. Okay, this year, I'm gonna be
conspiracy theory. I think they want to head through the
season because that because Spigate came back up. Good day.
I'll probably made a phone call Felicia calling up with

(55:11):
these crazy conspiracy Thank you Felicia for the call. We
appreciate that you're listening through the season this year. Come on,
how about how about AJ and Los Angeles. You're on
they couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up AJ? Hey, Hey,
Christie crazy, I'll get out. I mean, I'm I live
in Seattle, I'm from Florida. It's a horrible movie. Last

(55:36):
time they want where's the last time? The last time
they had Time Brady? They haven't made the playoffs in
twelve years? When the last time they had Tom Brady?
Exlightly this you got the Florida coop. Go ahead, explain, Chris,
that's what you got time. That's it, Chris, is what
I got. This is what I got, Chris. The Patriots

(55:58):
didn't want they didn't want them. They didn't million they
know that he's done. If you still could get you
to the super Bowl, Chris You said they were twelve
and four last year with Brady, So what if they
were mad about thirty million? I'm not the only one
saying that. That's a fact. I'm asked, how were they
twelve and four? You said they were twelve and four
last year? Right, you told me that? So why not

(56:20):
signed Brady again? Because Belichick wants like you said it, Rob,
he gets rid of players too early, earlier rather than late. Right,
all right, so we'll see Coop. You got to bring
more than that, Bro. All right, let's try aj uh
in Los Angeles. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's happening, guys? What's up? Rob? You're wrong? Man,

(56:45):
You're wrong. Get the head out. I mean, are you
kidding me? Tom Brady is the goat he got Let's
let's let's back up to this last color. So what
was doing on before Tom Brady got there? Stop talking
about the past. He's a forty three year old quarterback.
If I'm going to a terrible franchise that hasn't made
the playoffs in twelve years, he can't throw the ball

(57:07):
down the field. Stop living in the PA. Why can't
you be realistic? Tom Brady? For what he did for
in New England, New England, you know, let him go.
That's that's first of all, slap any player that's gonna
sign with New England because you know what, this is
not the first time, but it's Tom Brady. Tom Brady

(57:28):
nine super Bowls? What are the players? Tom Brady is old?
Stop talking about the past. Are you listen? He was
all years serowy on that team's gonna wink Brady on
any offense. That team is gonna make the playoffs. I
want you to call back when Tampa doesn't make the playoffs.

(57:49):
All right, call back. Don't forget AJ and Los Angeles,
you better call back. Listening to you? And oh hey
he is clip and Idaho, dam Cliff and Idaho. Yeah,
so look what what how are you doing your shows?

(58:11):
Great guys? Uh man? Tom Brady? Yes, the greatest of
all time and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it.
But you know what last year, what was the rough
on him? He doesn't want to go to rookie training camp.
The guy hasn't been a rookie training camp and what
three years? Then he says, woman's offensive lines are look good.
Then they fixed that farm he had all day. Then

(58:31):
they said he done that wide receivers. Well, how are
you gonna get to go and be good with all
receivers when you won't go to rookie training camp. He
needs to go there and white noses and kiss butts
and what. He doesn't want to do that, So let
him go to Tampa Bay and he's gonna fall flat
on his face. Plus you get all these other guys
in the NFL. We're not going to respect him, and
you're gonna go, oh man, you're a chump. You that

(58:52):
you're not gonna respect Exactly. I don't even think Rob
Parker would say that that. I'm players in the NFL
aren't gonna respect Tom Brady respect him. I'm just saying
you won't get the same respects. Sorry, let me let
me preface it with that. All right, appreciate Clinton, Cliff
and Idaho coming coming Hard's own private Idaho. You know

(59:15):
what I'm saying. Up next, we'll speak with college basketball
analyst Jimmy Dikes about the ramifications of canceling the NC
Double A Tournament. But first, Fox Sports Radio has the
best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of
our shows at Fox sports radio dot com and within
the iHeart Radio app search f SR to listen live.

(59:38):
It is the Ey Couple. Chris Arab coming to you
live from the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios. It is
easy to say fifteen percent or more in your car
insurance with Geico. Go to Geico dot com or call
eight hundred nine four seven Auto. The only hard part
is figuring out which way is easier. Our next guest
is a friend of mine. We have hosted a breakfast

(59:59):
together the last few years at the NCAA Final Four
Great analysts, great guy. He's analyzes for ESPN now College Basketball.
Also an author. His book is The Film Doesn't Lie.
Evaluating your life one play at a time. None other
than Jimmy dikes Jimmy, what's happening? How are you doing, Briss,

(01:00:21):
how are you man? It's good to hear from you.
It's good to be on with you. And Rob thanks
for having me. Oh, you're welcome. Great to have you on.
And let's get right to it. Obviously, the NCAA tournament canceled,
and this was a year where you had teams that
you know, weren't traditional powers at the top of the rankings. Dayton,
San Diego State, teams like that how good of a

(01:00:43):
tournament was this going to be? I think it was
gonna be exceptional. You know. I feel so bad for
all those teams that didn't get a chance to make
a run through that bracket. But if you would asked
me last week at this time, get me four team
sume me that you think will get there, I would
have gone with Kansas. I'm not sure they would have

(01:01:04):
won it, but I think they would have gotten to
Atlanta because I could have made a very strong case
for Gonzaga, Dayton, Florida State, BYU San Diego State. So
three or four of those teams I just mentioned are
outside the Power Conference, and that's when the I mean,
that's when the tournament gets so much fun. When we
see those teams that we don't normally see on Big

(01:01:26):
Monday or Super Twos, they always on our air on ESPN.
They get their big platform and they make they take
advantage of it. Because I think Dayton was a real deal.
Obi Toppin is going to be a tremendous long term pro.
The country still didn't know enough about that kid. How
good that team is. Gonzaga just as good offensively as
any team I've seen in a long time, Chris. So

(01:01:49):
we're missing a lot and and you know, as a fan,
we'll get to see we'll get to see more tournaments
coming down the road. But for some of those kids,
this was their only shot, and you feel really bad
for them. But at the end of the day, as
you guys know, it was absolutely the right decision to make. Yeah, Jimmy,
the only thing is, yes, it was the right decision
to make. But I thought the NCAA handled it terribly.

(01:02:12):
Um it seemed like they were trying against anything to
make sure they got the games. I want to understand,
this is a business and there's money there for the
networks and trying to figure out a way to do it.
We even saw the Big East play a game after
the NBA had shut down its season, played a game
and at halftime then they called everything and said it

(01:02:33):
was all off. And I don't I don't even know that. Like,
if it wasn't for Chris, what were the two schools
or Kansas and Kentucky who both said that they wouldn't
Duke and Kentucky. Duke and Kansas who both said, you
could have an NCAA tournament, but we won't be there.
And then all of a sudden, the NCAA was was
ready to pull the plug. Do you feel the same

(01:02:54):
way that the NCAA wasn't Like, Uh, they didn't. They
didn't lead well, and they didn't come up with a plan,
one idea to stop playing basketball when this thing hit
the country. Yeah, there was I'll tell you what that
that was happening at such a rapid pace. I had
a great conversation with Greg sank you, the commissioner of
the SEC, on that Thursday, when the Power conferences all

(01:03:19):
canceled their conference tournament, and shortly thereafter the NC DOUBLEA
within about three or four hours, I believe, canceled the
NC Double A tournament. And you know, I think we
have to all understand all the information that those people
in those positions of leadership, we're getting from the World
Health Organization to our own medical field here in the

(01:03:41):
United States, all the information that was flying up those guys,
and they're trying to consume it, digest it, you know,
trying all they could, I think, to save the tournament
in some form or fashion. But then ultimately, you know,
that decision was an easy decision, actually it had to
be made. But when the NBA on Wednesday night, we
saw what happened on that floor and teams were removed

(01:04:03):
from the floor, and you know, the first known case
of an NBA player. We all knew what was going
to happen, and you know, it took probably right at
twenty four hours for everybody to fall in line. But
at the end of the day, you know, I think
the most important thing is they got it right. They
didn't try to postpone it, delay it, which we've been

(01:04:23):
a nightmare in terms of trying to practice. And now
we you know, we all have the direction to know
more than send people in a crowd. At the time,
it just wasn't going to work. So yeah, that fortunately
it worked out the best case scenario for all the
student athletes. I was gonna say, and I'll take my
hats off and the plaud the leadership of the IVY League.

(01:04:44):
That just wasn't happened, and they were way ahead of
everybody else when they pulled the plug and said we're
not going to go forward. I just want to stay.
ESPN basketball analyst Jimmy Dikes joining the Eye couple. Jimmy,
you had mentioned some of the team teams that are
in the top ten now Dayton, San Diego State, Creighton's
number nine. Even some of the teams from the bigger

(01:05:07):
conferences Baylor, Florida State aren't traditional powers. Why do you
think we've gotten to a point where a lot of
these schools, you know, that haven't always been great in
basketball are at least this year. And then the North
Carolina is not what we've always expected, and some of
these other blue bloods. You know, it's kind of been

(01:05:28):
a reverse at least for this year. Yeah, Chris, it has.
You know, I think those teams you mentioned that they
are older, Like, those are older teams, and some of
them have some grad transfers, some of them have some
red shirt kids, but you know, old as good, and
you can look at the last three or four national
champions are those were all older teams that started pretty

(01:05:49):
much in nucleus of juniors and seniors. And I think
that's going to continue. You just that that experience, the maturity,
the mental and the physical toughness, the durabile of those
older kids. It's just hard to beat over a three
week tournament. And I think that's why you saw those
teams have such spectacular years. And you know, even a

(01:06:09):
team like Seaton Hall. I had them in the Bahamas,
and I thought they were as good as anybody that
I saw this year. They would not have surprised me
at all if they had they had the tournament, had
they not won it. But that was an older team
with a with a with a real toughness and a
grit about him that's really hard to define. And a
Miles pal kid who's just a fantastic college player. I
don't know how his game will translate to the NBA.

(01:06:31):
I just know the dude can score as well as
anyone I've seen in a long time. But I think
the answer your question those even a team like Baylor
like that was an old team that with old kids,
and that's why you're seeing I think the separation of
North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas not as much space, not

(01:06:52):
as much gap in in recent years, particularly this year,
because there's just the age factor that's involved. How about
the one thing that was disturbing during what was happening
in the country and the coronavirus or whatever, and just
just you know, everybody going through all this stuff, was

(01:07:13):
iona on the weekend announced very quietly that Rick Patino
had been hired as coach, and I just you know,
everybody's should get a second chance and whatnot in life.
But Rick's character when it comes to college basketball and
recruiting and the stuff that's happened, the prostitutes at Louisville

(01:07:34):
and all the other stuff. How in the world's he
get another opportunity to be around young men in college students,
college athletes. I was stunned at IONA hired. Yeah, I
think I think there's a lot of stunned reactions to
that one. I'm like you, I know Chris agrees that,
And I'm all for people having to change heart, having

(01:07:56):
to change life, having to change path. Yea. And I'm
hopeful that coach Pettino has learned from his mistakes. I
know he is very open and transparent for what I
gather from his press conference when he got the opportunity
at IONA again. And the question that is still to
be answered is will possible NCUBA sanctions on Louisville follow

(01:08:19):
Rick Patino to IONA. And we don't know that the
answer yet, but you know, that's a that's a hard
call to make by the IONA administration. I'm sure I'm
hopeful that they had some strong conversations with him and
they felt comfortable about to hire, which is you know,
that's all you can ask for and leadership or your team.
If you're an Iona fan or I own a grad,

(01:08:40):
you have a lot of trust in the person that
made that call. And certainly the eyes of college basketball
will be on Iona greater than they ever have been.
And coach says that's where he wants to finish his
college career. And you know, I hope he has success.
But to your point, it's done a lot of people.
It didn't set well with a lot of people. But
flip side, a lot of folks have said, man, I

(01:09:02):
think that how great is that that coach Pettino gets
another gets one more shot to go out on a
different note. So if it was pros, if it was
the pros is different. But these are impressionable young kids.
And that's my biggest issue is that we've seen this
in college. I can't believe that. You know, when you
go out to recruit people and you go into someone's

(01:09:22):
home and you talk to him mom and dad and
talk about taking care of him and doing the right
thing and setting them on a right path. How how
can you go in there and do that? I just
I find I find it shocking. I know I understand
and if I am, if I'm a parent of a
recruit of Rip Partino right now, then I'm gonna ask

(01:09:44):
hard questions. I'm gonna ask questions that I want to
be feel very comfortable, you know before I ask my
my son along to him. And I'm sure Coach is
ready to answer those questions, you know, the best that
he can. But um, it's you know, we we we
live in a society right now that man, there's just
so much pulling of people and so many voices and

(01:10:06):
so many things that just are confusing and hard times
and tough times right now. And you know, I'm gonna
I'm gonna err on this side, on this one with
I hope and pray that Coach Patino's heart and his
thoughts have been realigned and maybe reset and revalued and
he finishes off his coaching career now in a whole

(01:10:30):
different way than how it ends right right. Jimmy Dike's
strong words, good words. We appreciate it. Thanks for joining
us again. His book is available on Amazon. It's the
film Doesn't Lie, Evaluating your Life one play at a time, Jimmy,
great stuff, thanks a lot for joining us. All right, guys,

(01:10:50):
thanks for having me. Have a good night, Yeah you too.
Can Philip Rivers revive his career in Indie or should
he have hung it up? That's next on the Eye
Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussar then Rob
Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. You tuned into

(01:11:14):
The I Couple Chris and Rob, and in about fifty minutes,
it'll be your turn to take the limelight. It is
a trash talk in Tuesday. You could call it trash
anyone or anything in the world of sports. Like I said,
in about forty five fifty minutes, you'll be able to

(01:11:34):
hit the hit the horn and trash anyone or anything
in the sports world. Rob, let's get back to the NFL.
But instead of going to Tim Brady right now, let's
go to yet another quarterback. I mean, man, a lot
of QB news today. Philip Rivers to Indianapolis. Not a surprise.
It seemed like everybody kind of knew this was what

(01:11:56):
was going to happen. He gets a one year deal
worth twenty five million. And I was saying for a
while that if they're going after Philip Rivers, heck, why
not go after time Brady. But I think perhaps the
years is what did it, rob Um. Maybe they could
get Rivers right for a year and Brady wanted to

(01:12:17):
to leave New England. Brady wanted to break the bank
sixty million dollars, which is what he got in Tampa Bay.
What you what he will get in Tampa Bay? And
I get it, and you know, logic would tell you
at forty three years old, and the way he finished
up the season, maybe let's, you know, like do it
year by year. But that's not what Brady wanted. What

(01:12:37):
Brady wanted which was to play till forty five, Chris right,
and he needs to to u two years at least
to do that. So that's why New England was out
and most of the other teams are out. Only really
two teams, I guess we're really in when you think
about it. And they both offered them to charge us
reportedly have offered them offered them the same deal sixty

(01:12:57):
million dollars. Yeah, and I think we talked about it
off the air. A big part of it for him too,
may have been his family. I mean, I'm sure, obviously
a family is a big part of a deal, but
they're in Connecticut, right, and Connecticut, yeah you still, I mean,
it's still a light, nice little plane ride, but it's
not going, you know, all the way from California. So

(01:13:20):
maybe that was a factor as well, which might have
helped Indie had they wanted to give him two years.
But with Philip Rivers, look, it's hard to believe this thing.
Rob He's four years younger than Brady, four years younger
than Tom Brady, you know, and we think of Philip
Rivers as old. That shows you the unchartered waters that

(01:13:41):
Brady is in. But Indies got t Y Hilton, they
got Marlon Mack in the backfield, they got a you know,
okay defensive, got a great offensive line. You got Frank
Wright the quarterback, whisper on that as the coach. So
it'll be interesting. They obviously are looking at what Rivers

(01:14:02):
did last year, and even though he you know, it
wasn't a great year for him. They only won five games,
he threw for forty six hundred yards, and he had
no offensive line to speak of. So I think that's
what Indianapolis is thinking. Look, we can get the best
of him, and if we get the best out of him,
then they think it can be successful. It's worth a try.

(01:14:25):
I got new Obviously they're not gonna be a favorite,
but you know, one year they didn't have a quarterback.
I'm not gonna kill him for that. I got news
for the cultures this on Hello, what a waste of money?
Did you watch Philip Rivers last year? He was god awful?
The Colts? What are they doing? Christ mistake? Absolute mistake.

(01:14:49):
You talk about being he can't move. He's terrible, Pip Rivers.
It's one year, keeper love. Fox Sports Radio has the
best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of
our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within

(01:15:09):
the iHeart Radio app. Search f SR to listen live.
It is the y Couple. I'm Chris, He's Robber, coming
you live from the Geico Fox Sports Radio Studios. Fifteen
minutes could save you fifteen percent more on your car insurance.
Visit Geico dot com for a free rate quote. You
can also follow us on social media. I am at

(01:15:29):
Chris Underscore Bruce Ard on Twitter Chris Bruce Art sixty
eight on Instagram, robbers at Rob Parker f S one
and both Twitter and The Graham. We'll be joined at
the bottom of this hour by Kron Phillips, senior writer
for Dad Spinning My goodness. I mean, look, I'm not

(01:15:50):
a Tom Brady lover. I just sound that way compared
to Rob Parker, but I just think like that he's
a historically great quarter back and I like seeing history
in the making. So I like Tom Brady. But this dude,
Rob kran Phillips, is all the way, all the way

(01:16:12):
smitten by even you got a tooth teach reading that piece,
So my right, no question about it. So he'll join
us at the bottom of the hour and that'll be
a lot of fun. And then, of course, as we said,
it is a trash talking Tuesday, you'll turn away in

(01:16:37):
trash anyone or anything in the world of sports. You'll
be able to do that in about forty minutes, so
get your takes ready. And of course, uh, the big
news of the day tom Brady leaving the New England Patriots,
and all the reports are saying that he is going
to sign with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And this is

(01:17:00):
there couldn't be bigger news in the world of sports,
and Tom Brady moving on Rob I like him in
Tampa Bay. I think it's I understand why he did it.
He was straight up disrespected by the Patriots Bill Belichick.
It seems I know we had on Jim McBride from

(01:17:20):
the Boston Globe earlier. He's saying he never recognized, never
saw any bad blood between those two, and I'm sure
there wasn't. I mean, I don't think you saw, you know,
I don't think it was anything where they were at
each other's throats. But and I don't think personally that
Brady feels like or felt like I need to show

(01:17:42):
I can win without Bill. I don't think he felt
that way. I never saw any indication of that. I
do kind of think Belichick felt that way. In fact,
Ian O'Connor, you and I both know Ian well, great
reporter and writer. He said years ago Belichick had told
someone that that he he can't wait till you know
he can have a different quarterback to show he can

(01:18:04):
win without Tom Brady, something to that effect. And so
I do think that Belichick. You know, we could say, yeah,
Brady wanted to leave, but he wanted to leave because
they wanted him to take a pay cut, They only
wanted to give him one year, and they didn't see
him intent on getting them any more weapons at the

(01:18:25):
receiver position. So yeah, I guess he wanted to leave
after all that. But I think this is about Belichick
rob finally wanting to move on, kind of like we
brought up Michael Jordan and Jerry Krouse. The gym and
Jerry Cross is not even in the same shouldn't be
in the same sentence as Bill Belichick as far as accomplishments.

(01:18:46):
But we've seen this before where a front office guy
or coach wanted to show they could do it without
the superstar. Maybe they felt like they weren't getting enough credit,
and I think there was at least some of that
in and play here. And I think the Patriots should
have brought Brady back, not at break the Bank money,

(01:19:07):
not at Tampa Bay money, And maybe that wouldn't have
been enough to bring him back, but I think they're
going to be hurting in the short term without Tom Brady.
I still think that it came down to I never
believed he was coming back, Chris when they basically he
avoided out the last two years of his contract and
they were told him, hey, go check your value around

(01:19:30):
the league. Yeah, go do that, and then you could
come back to us and we'll figure something out. If
they really wanted Tom Brady, I believe a deal would
have been done. I just don't believe that they ever
wanted to. We know Bill Belichick a couple of years
ago was ready to move on from Tom Brady and
he was overruled by the owner. And then I'm sure

(01:19:51):
he got a little more cloud Chris just a little bit.
When Jimmy Garoppolo made it to the Super Bowl. Yes
he for three as he played well, fourth quarter he didn't.
They lost, But but that was Bill Belichick's probably trump
card to say, this is you know what I mean,
like they had the perfect I'll give him this, They
had the perfect playing in place, Am I right? Like

(01:20:12):
this is the guy? This is what I was trying
to tell you. Look, he's in the Super Bowl. This
is what And then he gotta go, you know what, Yeah,
we had our guy for the future, and we didn't
believe in what you were telling us, and blah blah
blah blah blah. And I get it, And I think
you know that was what changed the balance of power.
And Tom Brady at forty three and Chris you gotta remember,

(01:20:37):
you know, he just when you looked at him at
the end of the year, just wasn't the same. And
he put up numbers earlier in the year, and they
beat up on a lot of bad They were putting
up forty points a game, remember I unbelievably right. But
we're like, are they gonna go sixteen? If you remember that?
And we were like, no, that team is not that good.
People laughed at me. You remember I said they're the

(01:20:58):
worst eight no team I ever saw. Yeah, and that
was because because Chris they were waiting. But they hadn't
beaten anybody. I agree on that. I mean, we disagree
on how good they were. I thought they were still
a pretty good team. But no, SI, that talk was crazy,
and so I'm not surprised. I feel like I was.

(01:21:20):
I was on this from the very beginning. I knew
this was the end of Tom Brady in New England.
And it was a combination when you when you the
same thing. He moved his family and closed down the
suite at the stadium, and all just all the signs
were there that Tom was on his way, and he
was gonna leave because he knew what was coming. And

(01:21:41):
then we talked about it even yesterday, Chris, just the
ultimate slap in the face. It's one thing to say, hey,
we'll give you a one year and an option or something,
do you know what I mean? But I asked him
one year and at a pay cut, not even you know,
even Philip Rivers went and got more money than even

(01:22:03):
the Patriots were willing to pay for Tom Brady. I mean,
think about that, yep. So so if you're corner, yeah,
you have pride, and then they could spit it as well.
We wanted them back. We offered them a contract. He
didn't want it. That's what that right, That's what they say. No,
I'm in agreement with you on that, all right. So

(01:22:24):
now there's all this talk who's going to win first,
Who's going to you know, be more successful without the other?
Who was more important? Was it Bill or was it Tom?
We're gonna hear a lot of that talk, and honestly, Rob,
I don't We're not going to get the answer because
as much as I think Brady made a good move

(01:22:44):
to go to Tampa Bay, as much as I think
he'll go there and have a pretty good season next year.
And and you know, like I said, I'm not making
my pick today, but I think they're gonna you know,
I think they're gonna be have a pretty good team
and certainly be in that playoff hunt. I'll say that
much as much as all of that's true. In my mind,

(01:23:05):
he's forty he's gonna be forty three. And if he
goes into Tampa next year and stinks up the joint,
you still won't be able to say, see it was Bill,
See he wasn't that good, he was a system QB.
You won't be able to say that in fairness or
with a straight face, because he's forty three, and we've

(01:23:28):
never seen a player, as much as you may think
he was down last year, We've never seen a forty
two year old throw the football that well, be that good,
that productive. And so at some point it's gonna he's
gonna fall off. Maybe it'll be next year, maybe it'll
be the year after. But we're not just like Michael Jordan. No,

(01:23:48):
nobody holds those Wizards years against them. We don't even think.
We act like those didn't even exist. I totally agree,
you know, like nobody even thinks about those years. They're
not included in the Lebron debate, right, So that's how
it's gonna be. But Rob, I'm gonna say this right here,
right now, and I want your opinion. I think the

(01:24:13):
dynasty and I've said it Belichick. You know, we can
discuss the cheating and all that, but I think he's
been the greatest coach we've ever seen in the NFL,
greatest quarterback. I'm just yeah, I get it because of
the cheating and all that, and that's fair. But my
point is I'm just trying to say I think both
guys have been done great stuff and they both deserve

(01:24:37):
tons of credit. But if you force me to pick
one who is more responsible for the dynasty, then I'm
saying Tom Brady. First of all, I almost always think
it's the player over the coach. Secondly, Bill Belichick has
coach and I've said it before, but I'm gonna say

(01:24:58):
it again because people don't seem to hear me. He's
coached seven years in the NFL without Tom Brady as
his starting quarterback. He made the playoffs once once. He's
had two years in New England without Tom Brady as
his starting quarterback. He made the playoffs zero times in

(01:25:23):
those two years, and he had Drew bled Soul, a
Pro Bowl quarterback. His first year in New England Belichick,
they were five and eleven with bled Soul. The next
year they start owing two. Bled so gets hurt, Brady's
forced into the starting lineup and the rest is history.

(01:25:45):
They won the Super Bowl that very year. Three of
the next four day won. So to me, it's not
Brady doesn't have to. It's not even a question who
was more a part of it. As good as Belichick is,
as good as scheming as he is and changing up,
you know, the emphasis of their attack based on the

(01:26:06):
opponents and all of that, it's Brady, baby, and it
ain't even close. Once again, Chris Brussard is not looking
at the entire picture. What Chris Brussard did not tell
you when you talk about that is Bill Belichick is
a defensive coach, the guy who helped the Giants win

(01:26:28):
two Super Bowls with Bill Parcels. I don't have all
the numbers in front of me, Chris, but the defense
is what helped fuel most of those Super Bowls, starting
with the very first one against the Rams. The greatest
show on turf when they shut that team down. They
were double digit underdogs in that Super Bowl because they

(01:26:53):
didn't think anybody would be able to stop that offense.
Bill Belichick and was able to get his defense to
stop it. Also when they came back against Atlanta from
twenty eight to three, it was the defense. I can
go or yes, I it was the defense. Atlanta didn't
score again in that game wouldn't matter, but the offense

(01:27:16):
they didn't little something to know, but they didn't score again.
And you can look at it and look at these
Super Bowls and whatnot. When the defense clamped down, it
is just as much, even more of Bill Belichick than
it is Tom Brady. Tom Brady won two Super Bowls
with with a total of one touchdown thrown. Two of

(01:27:36):
those six Super Bowls, the defense was as big of
a part and Bill Belichick was was the engineer, the
designer of the defense. And that's why Tom Brady was
to win, was able to win as much as he
was able to win. Where was that he He was
a defensive coach his first year in New England too,
and he had Drew Blanso and they went five and eleven.

(01:28:00):
He was and everybody wants all two thousand and eight,
Matt Castle, I mean eleven and five. That team was
sixteen and old the year before that was the team
that lost to ELI in the in the Super Bowl.
That was the team that it had they won that game,
would have been viewed as the greatest team ever. So

(01:28:23):
let's stop acting like eleven and five was something so special.
They didn't make the playoffs that year, didn't make the playoffs.
So what do you think? Eight seven, seven ninety nine
On Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine, Rob says this Bill, I say it's Tom.

(01:28:45):
Who do you say is most We give them both credit,
no doubt, but who's most responsible for the Patriots dynasty?
Belichick or Brady? You're turning away, it will continue the converse.
Stay with you. Next, it's the Eye Couple. Fox Sports Radio.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

(01:29:07):
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports
Radio dot com and within the iHeart Radio app. Search
f SR to listen live. It's the Eye Couple. Chris Brussar,
Rob Parker, it is your turn away in who do
you think is more responsible for the dynasty that just ended?

(01:29:28):
The New England Patriots six Super Bowls, nine Super Bowl appearances?
Was it more Belichick or more Brady? I say Brady,
Rob says Belichick. No surprises there. What do you say?
Eight seven, seven ninety nine? On Fox, Let's get to
it right. All right, let's kick it off with Dave
and San Francisco. You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.

(01:29:50):
What's up Dave? Dave boy again? All right on? Hey,
first time listener. Do you guys gotta love the show?
It's the question. I gotta say, Brady, I think, but
it's close, if anything is, you know, it's like a
forty eight fifty two forty nine fifty one split. Some
years I had say Brady was lacking where Belichick made

(01:30:12):
it up. There's definitely other ears where you can see
Belichick's defense was lacking and Brady had that offensive just
cunning that definitely put him over the top. So it's
at that's fair though, because you know they both deserved
tons of credit. All right, let's do Kevin and culbra
City on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. I

(01:30:32):
cannot believe I got on Chris and a lot of
what is going on? What's up? Man? Uh? It is
a pleasure speaking to you gentlemen. You know, Um, I'm not.
I don't. I don't want to say too much because
every time, you know, I start loving a show like y'alls,
you know, they take it off that air style. Don't
say that we're not going anywhere. Go ahead, you know

(01:30:53):
what I mean. You know what I've been going nowhere
the pool pool That's why. Don't put that in the
ass feeling. Okay, I won't. You know, It's just it's
just been my history with Fox. I love them because
you know, you're the result, you know, the last go around.
So you know, I hope you know they feel like
they got it right in y'all state forever. Moving on. Um,

(01:31:16):
you know I'm gonna I'm gonna put a different spin
on it, you know. I mean, I loved you guys
this subject matter. Um, I don't. I don't want to
deviate because you know, as you guys are brilliant that way.
But I'm a Dolphins fan and to that, I just say,
you know what, I don't care. You know what I'm saying.
You know, it's time for the AFC used to go
back where it belongs, where it was before all of

(01:31:37):
this debacle started long live the Dolphins. Stop it just hating? Hey,
hate hate? Oh many? This year? Are you kidding? Bills? Doitans?
I gonna be competitive? It will be up. Jets would

(01:32:00):
be pretty gay. All right, let's do the Patrick and Orlando.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Patrick?
Hey guys? Oh man, I can I can tell your
short staff there was no intern to warn me. But yeah,
I cannot wait for you guys show, specifically tonight. I'm
a huge fan normally, but tonight's debate. Oh man, I
could not wait for that. Yeah, you guys are the best.

(01:32:23):
I can't wait for it tonight. But to get to
the point, uh, you guys kind of change the subject
as to why I called in, but I would say
it's the color that broke up. It was. It was
almost an even split, but I give Brady a slight
advantage because he you know, he played. But anyway, my
favorite players are all all time are Derek Brooks, Ronde Barber,

(01:32:44):
and then Tom Brady. And as a Bucks fan, I
cannot wait for this. This is the most insane thing
that's happened. As Rob. I know you might disagree, but
I'm not expecting the Super Bowl or anything. If it
gets us relevant again and we are on nighttime TV,
and if we oh man, if we make it to
the playoffs or if we we need playoff game, holy caw,

(01:33:05):
like that would just be awesome, and you will be
on national games. Trust relevant. I'm not gonna say that
you're gonna be as gonna be musty TV to Tom
Brady in that uniform. I'm not even kid myself. You
might have what ten games on national TV, A lot
of them. I'm telling whatever the limit is, yeah, I

(01:33:26):
don't know if it could be ten, Chris, but whatever
the limit is, it'll be there. All right, let's do um,
Cody and Louisville. Is that Cody, Cody, you are a
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Oh? Yes, sir,
How are y'all doing to that? We are great, man?
How are you? I'm doing well? Um? With all this
bus going on in the world, man, it's really nice

(01:33:48):
to hear some positivity over the radio. Y'all are doing
a fantastic job. And then just just keep at it.
Seriously all we all need you guys right now. We
this an important time. We've been there too during different
You know you haven't seen this, but nine to eleven
things like that. You know, these these shows like this
get you through, no question, especially look at where we are.

(01:34:08):
FS one MC canceled all our studio shows. So people
who turn for certain things, man, then not there, right,
I'm not there right, yes, yes there, yeah, I'm I'm
a lolival fan and like the local sports radio stations
have been kind of getting me through all the BOARDOM
and especially now that my gyms are shut down, like
I'm gonna have to probably sit around and listen to

(01:34:29):
that all day and listen to you guys. UM, But
the first caller kind of took my point. I think
it's split. I mean, you know, Brady's ability to elevate
his players with how good he is, that's one thing.
But Belichick and the ownership created the culture. So it's
it's fifty fifty. UM. I want to throw this question
out there and feel free for y'all to you guys
can get into it later on. I just want to

(01:34:49):
throw it out there. But with um, with Bridgewater signing
with the Karen Panthers and Cam Newton want to he's
gonna be traded? Do you think that the Patriots are
gonna have enough packets to trade for Cam Newton because
the quarterback pool and free agency is is not that
good to my knowledge. And uh, yeah, I'm gonna hang out.
I gotta go run some errand hopefully I can find
some toilet paper at the store. Um, but yeah, you

(01:35:14):
you better go out tomorrow morning or something. I don't
know about Tonight's absolutely, Bob, I don't. I don't see
Cam in New England? Do you? Does that seem like
a fit to you? Him in Belichick? It could work.
I just don't see it in as far as do
they have enough, probably because I mean, it's not gonna
take a ton to get him. They aren't a ton

(01:35:37):
of teams out there that you know, are gonna want
or need, and you know, and if they don't trade him,
they're gonna just cut him. Because yeah, so they might
be able to get him. I wouldn't be shocked if
they go after try to bring back Jacoby Brissette, yeah,
because he was already there. All right, let's do Jean

(01:35:58):
in Richmond. You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Man. You guys
are hilarious and informative. Man, appreciate you, you know what,
that's all that's our goal, man, We appreciate that. That's
exactly what we're hope to inform you and hope to
entertain you. So we're absolutely I'm a huge Skins fan,

(01:36:19):
glad to get Kim full of back. Um. But to
your question, I think it's I think it's Brady. I mean,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I think it's Belichick. And the
reason I say that, and I have been saying it
for a long time, is that Belichick is a defensive genius,
if you will. And it's safe to say that I'm

(01:36:42):
sure that Belichick has uh coach Brady from a defensive standpoint.
If he's creating all of these defenses, um and presented
them to to Brady. Um, it's safe to say that
he's got an inst track one defenses that he sees
and he's able to do the things he does on

(01:37:06):
the steel. I'll be quiet and let you guys UM
make a point of Look, Belichick is tremendous, but like
I said, the years he hasn't had Brady, he hadn't
won forget super Bowl. He don't general generally get to
the playoffs. So to me, it's clearly Brady not taking

(01:37:28):
anything from Bill because he's great. But if I had
to pick who's more responsible, that's why I say Brady. Yeah,
I just can't agree with that. I just think the
defense and what he was able to do with him
in New York with the Giants. He is a defensive genius.
That's that's his stamp on the game, and not about offenses.
About defense. We got Edward in Texas. You're Everard in Texas.

(01:37:52):
I'm sorry you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports
radio effort. What's up? How's it going? Very good? How
are you? What's up? Man? Pretty good? Pretty good. I'm
just gonna make this really quick. I'm obviously gonna lean
towards Brady with the dynasty, I think that Chris made
all the exact points. But rock really quick. I want
to go to one game in particular, one game that

(01:38:14):
ironically that they did lose, and everybody wants to talk
about Belichick's defense, Belichick's defense, but you we ignored the
fact and almost glossed over that Tom Brady through for
a record five hundred and five yards. The Patriots never
punted the football in a game. If I had told
you the Patriots would played a Super Bowl where they
would never punt the game, you'd be like, they win

(01:38:36):
by five touchdowns and yeah, but the only problem that
it's not about it's not about yards, it's about points.
Go back, and we watched that game. Tom Brady left
points on the field. That's why they didn't win that game.
Great point from that caller. Excellent point. I'm not even
gonna say anything else. All right, man, y'all think I

(01:38:58):
like Tom Brady, This next guest takes it to a
hole don level even I think it's it's just way, way,
way over the top. And remember Rob, it is a
trash Talk Tuesday line up. Now, we always we're never
able to get to enough of the callers. We get

(01:39:21):
so many, so start calling in now eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine. You could trash anyone or anything
in the world of sports. Do you want to trash
Belichick for getting rid of Brady? You want to trash
the Chargers for not getting him. You want to trash
Bruce Arians for going after whatever it is. You could

(01:39:42):
trash anyone anything in the world of Sports. But first
we're gonna have our man, Corn Phillips. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussar
then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app.
We are coming you live from the Geico Fox Sports
Radio studios. It's easy to say fifteen percent of more

(01:40:05):
on your car insurance with Geico. Go to Geico dot
com or call eight hundred nine four seven Auto. The
only hard part is figuring out which way is easier.
And we are joined by senior writer for Dan spend
car On Phillips and Carn. I mean, you know you
are a guy, but my goodness, that article you wrote
about Tom Brady, I had to go to the dentist.

(01:40:27):
I had too many cavities after reading that sweet piece.
My goodness, all that sugar with you look, look look
as sour as you want to Rob. You need with
your life, all right, So tell us about this. And
you went to Michigan, shout out to you for that.
My daughter's about to graduate in a couple of months
from now. I didn't I didn't go to Michigan. I'm

(01:40:49):
just I'm from Michigan, liked and raised. When you're Michigan,
you can only cheer for amazing blue and green and white.
Like my choice was amazing Blue. I was supposed to
go to Michigan and then poured out at the last minute,
like a couple of weeks as far as to show
up the campus and decided to go to Morrows for
undergrad But like Michigan, like that has been my college

(01:41:11):
football program since birth. So like this thing with Brady,
like I tell people all the time, like this has
been going on to college like that's my quarterback, Like
that's my guy, this is this is We've been doing
this since ninety seven, ninety eight, so like this isn't
nothing new for me. And now like Tampa Bay, like
he left the Patriots, Like this is how all day?

(01:41:35):
How salty are you that he's no longer a Patriot,
Like he's just sole a region. I'm a Patriots man,
like like I said to my piece, like I'm not
gonna fail on them. I'm still gonna cheer from him.
I just wanted something better than Tampa to Bay. But
when you think about it, he's in a division with
Matt Ryan, Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Brees. It's not like

(01:41:59):
it's it's gonna be really hard to get to the playoffs,
but it's just Tampa Bay, Like really it's gonna be
that easy because they haven't made the playoffs in twelve years.
It's the NFC South though, like it does, the South
is the most dysfunctional division in football. The Falcon r Joe,
nobody believes in Matt Ryan, like Teddy Bridgewater. I like Teddy,

(01:42:22):
but Teddy the back and then yeah and then like
look look look who he has to go against. Those
It's kind of similar to the AFC East when you
think about it too, where it's not really that much competition. Now,
the thing that I'm worried about is the culture in
Tampa Bay. Like it's the Buccaneers. We think about this
transition from from you know, Jamie's the thirty thirty man

(01:42:45):
to Tom Brady. But the thing about the Patriot way,
the way, you know, listen, we cheat. I know, guys,
I know what I'm on it. We cheat, We do
horrible things. I get yeah, but like some of those
champions ships are ill gotten games. We're not listening. Okay, right,

(01:43:07):
this this is what you do every time, right, there's
a line. He always cross it every time, every time,
come on back. But regardless of what you think about
the Patriots and us and you know our fan base,
like that team, there is a culture of playing together,
of excelling, of you know, making sure that the details matter.
That's why they win. I'm not sure, Amy, I mean,

(01:43:30):
we know other teams them operate like that. And now
I'm just not necessarily sure he's gonna find many guys,
let alone a whole locker room that has that same
intelling that he has expect, especially a guy who just
told us last time we saw him in public, I'm
not trying to wear another blazer to the super Bowl
next year. Here's my thing about Brady. To me, this

(01:43:52):
just weeks of a money grab. Do you feel the Patriots? Uh?
What was Tom smart his career, almost his entire career,
taking less being a team player to help the organization,
and then when he turns forty, gonna be forty three
this coming season, all of a sudden, it's about being
one of the top paid quarterbacks and he wants to

(01:44:14):
get paid. Did he make a mistake by doing what
he did his entire career and never being he was
never the highest paid quarterback despite winning six Super Bowls,
Like as a Michigan negative, when I would look at
how much money Matt Stafford was making compared to Tom Brady,
like he just never made sense. But like, this is

(01:44:35):
a guy who's always cared about winning, and he did
what he had to do and took less money to
win and it worked. Like I don't see anybody else
walking around six rings, So what do you think he
needs it? Now? Then what is the thing about the
money thing? Now? The Patriots offered him a contract, he
could have gone back to New England, because when you
look at last season, like last season was one of

(01:44:57):
the most frustrating seasons I've ever had as like a
Patron fan, just for the simple fact it wasn't just
the lack of weapons and the lack of year after
year after year, Like we never gave him ate enough
or a lot to work with on offense, but this
was the year where we did and then it all
went away. Like people like Robb who liked to call

(01:45:20):
Brady to gloating on that and say he lost it,
doesn't have anymore fine, But nobody was sitting that in
week two when we had Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon
and Julian Edelman and the first four plays of the
game went straight to Antonio Brown and he's stilling back
shoulders and Tom Brady looked like he was about to
win the MVP that year when he actually got some
toys and some talent to play with, he didn't look

(01:45:41):
forward him too at all. And then those two pieces
went away and you could double team and triple team
Julian Edelman, who was three feet tall, and I love Edelman,
but it was like, what else were we supposed to do?
Nikkil Harry was hurt. He was a rookie, and it
was just like we got exposed and as good as
that defense was, at some point we needed offense and

(01:46:01):
he had nobody to throw the ball too. So does
Tampa Bay make the playoffs next year? Oh yes? In
a South like nobody know how they're gonna choke the Saint.
Something disheartening is going to happen to them like it
does every year. And no one's worried about Carolina. So

(01:46:22):
they're they're gonna get there by far. They're not going
to get there. They're gonna wind up being Michael Jordan
going to the Wizards, mark my words, this will be
a disaster. It's just a money grab for Tom Brady
and a chance to get Hooters wings down in Tampa.
That's why he went. So you're saying that he's getting paid,
he's getting wings in Tampa. That's a bad thing. That

(01:46:45):
sounds like a good career decision to me. You know,
that's his stick, Karen. So he had to say that.
All right, a man, great job, CP, congratulations on your
new job with appreciate Thank you, fellas, Thank you, fellas.
I appreciate it. We'll get you on another time, brother,
thank you. All right, Rob, it is a trash talking Tuesday.

(01:47:09):
You're turned away in trash anyone anything in the world
of sports eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine,
ninety six, sixty three sixty nine, Call in and trash
some folks a couple. I'm the poop poo king. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern

(01:47:33):
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
All right, it's the Eye Couple wrapping up another three
hour the fun and information and we do it every
every Tuesday. It's a trash talking Tuesday. Talk about trash

(01:47:55):
talking Tuesdays. I don't know whether to smile at you
kick a field. Go all right, Rob, let's get right
to it. Who's right? The folks trash and make your
point and we're not gonna comment. You got the four,
you got thirty or forty seconds and just go through it,
all right, we're not charming in Let's start with Patrick

(01:48:18):
in North Carolina. Patrick, who you trashing? It's the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up brothers tonight? I
like to trash talk. Bill O'Brien. I would like to
award you the Dumbest Trade of the Year award. How
can you trade DeAndre Hawkins, that three time first first
team All Pro for David Johnson who will not produce
like Hopkins did. You had a team that could compete

(01:48:40):
for a possible Super Bowl. Now you have turned the
Texans into a mediocre team that will not make the playoffs.
And enjoy your award, O'Brien, you absolutely earned it. You go.
That's strong. Scott and Maine. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. Who you trash? And Scott Chris
and Rob loves the show the most. The most obvious statement.

(01:49:02):
I want to trash the coronavirus for messing up all
of our sports lives, but mostly want to trash anyone
who thinks the Patriots are better off without Tom Brady.
That goes for coaches, GM's player personnel College. I know
what I'm talking about. I'm from Maine. The guy who's
been turning five ten white guys in the All Pros
his whole career, Dick Super Bowls is unmatched. The guy's

(01:49:24):
gonna go somewhere else. He's gonna make it all right showing,
I think. But anyone that thinks that Jared Stidham of
whoerever else ends up on that roster you're gonna do
the same thing Brady did, is out of their minds. Again,
love the show, guys. Thanks, anybody could throw up tick six.
So don't you remember that was Brady's last pass as
a page. We're strolling ten years by Tom Brady. Yes, sir,

(01:49:47):
RC in Michigan. You're in the old couple of Fox Sports.
Rady RC. Who you trashing? Man? I'm gonna trash talk Crystal. Sorry,
man on Earth, and you keep calling yourself light skin man,
You ain't light skin you red man? Your hair is
bro Jason Tatum is light skin, light skin with jet

(01:50:08):
black hair. Man, Come on, Christ, do you know what
you is? Man? You're not light skin? Brother? You red?
Come on with We've read Curry, He's read. I'm Redney
back he read. Ain't you read? Man? You're red? You're
not light skin you red? Brother? Claude my man, I
love Wow? Is that your cousins? That somebody from Sport?

(01:50:30):
He cuts you something? Oh the barbershop man, that's right,
Chris Crazy RC brought it though. How about Joseph and Indiana.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Joseph,
where you trashing? Sam Punk? Sim Pom Punk? Wow? Okay?

(01:50:51):
Sam's if I stayed last when I trash talked to him,
he should have. Son was a w because he could
have had the whole rushing world as his hands and
the tist and he just got rid of it all,
all right, short and sweet. I guess wrestling for people
who are there at home and didn't know who that is,

(01:51:13):
that's a runa okay. Just want to make sure. How
about writer in Vegas, you're on the odd couple. Of
Fox Sports Radio. Hey, writer, who you're trashing? What's going on?
Fellas and make it quick? Pretty much? The Patriots? What
the hell are they thinking and getting rid of Tom Brady?
I know he's older, but man, come on, that's still

(01:51:34):
your best chance at winning. He's falled out for you
for twenty years and you just can't give him weapons.
You can't give him money. Now you're looking at potential
QB candidate. You got Andy Dalton in the mix, you
got Cam Newton? Are you getting me? Come on? Come on,
he has won six rings for you. All he wanted
was just a few weapons. Come on, you know, a
little bit more money, and you guys can't do that

(01:51:55):
for him. And now you looking injury prone Cam Newton
and all that. No, that's farfish man, I said, all right,
appreciate it man, nothing but good stuff. Herb and Denver,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Herb,
who are you trashing? Man? I'm trashing everybody who got
some negative slamber. Let's say about Tom Brady going to Tampa.
And I'm telling you why right now. I don't want

(01:52:17):
to hear nobody trying to downgrade six titles. I don't
want to hear nobody's talking about an age when he
just wanted Super Bowl when he was in his forties.
I don't want to hear nothing about, oh he looked
this last year, Oh the ball did he can't do this.
But he didn't have Mike Evans, he didn't have God
when he didn't have O. J. Howard, he didn't have
the offense that he's gonna have in Tampa and the

(01:52:40):
defense while everybody were paying attention to the quarterback, the
defense in Tampa getting real good. I don't know if
there anybody's paying attention, but we signed the guys who
make a difference. So anybody who trashing the Bucks with
Tom Braid, that's where I'm trashing. All right, Man, they're
excited he's calling from Denver. He gotta be from Tampa, though,
must be. How Let's go to Sean in Miami. You're

(01:53:01):
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Sean, who
you're trashing? Sean? All right? All right? Yeah, let's do
Jabraun like lebron Ja Braun and Las Vegas. You're on
the odd couple Fox. Hey, I want to trash Chris
Brussarry post posthumously Kobe Bryant is now one of the
greatest basketball players to ever live. But I listened to

(01:53:23):
the show the week before Kobe Bryant died and Chris
had a hard time finding the spot and all time
greats in the top ten for Kobe Bryant. That's it,
all right, I'm gonna let it go. But there's more
all time grace than ten, whether you're in the top
ten or not. He's all time great. Do we got time?
How much time do we have to be honest? Seriously,

(01:53:46):
Mace Kent do it in a minute? Mace gotta cut
his short he can't. Ye, Yeah, next week, baby, Yeah,
It's just it's not he has more than a minute,
and then we gotta wrap up the show and everything.
So it's not gonna work out. Yeah. Yeah. It was
a good one though, good good trash talk today. Yeah,
a lot of good stuff at me, what's up with that?

(01:54:06):
I know that my cousin did a good job. I
have to text them. I'm sorry, Golden Golden right, I
know you already been texting you. That's why he called in.
Go to Apple Podcast, SoundCloud, iTunes, Fox Sports Radio dot com,

(01:54:27):
download the podcast, subscribe, leave us five stars in a comment,
will check you guys out tomorrow. It's the Eye couple
Chris and Rod Peace

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Hosts And Creators

kelvin washington

Rob Parker

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce

24/7 News: The Latest

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Tom Brady Made a Huge Mistake!