April 21, 2020 • 37 mins
It's the Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob debate whether or not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers made a mistake when they traded for the recently-retired Rob Gronkowski and explain why Draymond Green is wrong for saying Kevin Durant should've told his Golden State Warriors teammates he was planning on leaving at the end of the 2019 season. Plus, the EVP of NFL Football Operations Troy Vincent stops by to discuss the COVID-19's impact on the football calendar and what contingency plans the League has in place in case the quarantine extends further than anticipated.
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Coup of
with Chris Brussa and Rod Harker. We're gonna come in,
Starron and come in. Correct. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have
traded this is a shocker with the New England Patriots.
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They traded a fourth round pick in this week's draft
for a seventh round pick and Rob grin Kowski, the
tight end for the New England page of the Hall
of Famer soon to be Hall of Fame tight end
uh for New England. Who's teamed up with Tom Brady
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so well over the course of their career. And let
me start by saying this, robbing in, I'm quickly gonna
give you the mic. We had a bet. We had
a wing bet that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will make
the playoffs. Nothing you know, I didn't. We didn't bet
super Bowl or anything like that. But I'm saying they'll
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make the playoffs. I'm a gentleman, and we've made the
bet before this news of getting drunk. So if you
want to get out of the bet, in the bet,
eliminate the bet, I'm gonna give you that opportunity. Absolutely, not,
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no way, no how. Actually I'll double the bet with you.
Why don't we have what we have? Ten? I thought
we had ten in a drink. Let's I don't have
any interest in doing more than that, but yeah, twenty,
I think we had ten and the drink. Let's do
twenty work. So obviously you're not You're not moved by this,
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not at all? Is this on? Because I hope they
can hear us in Tampa Bay again, another desperate moved
by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I know you haven't made
the playoffs in twelve years, but obviously your judgment has
been foggy, and now that you have Tom Brady in
the fold, everything has turned into old timer's day. What
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in the world is the Tampa Bay Bucks doing? You
know what? They've turned this franchise into a freak show,
into a circus, that's what this has turned into. Now
Come see the old quarterback who's ninety five years old,
and when he first started playing, they used the real pig.
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Come see the frat boy tight end who's better at
lifting beers to his mouth than catching footballs. And here
is ron Gronkowski. Gronk, He ain't the competitor he once was.
He walked away for the game and turned it too wrestling.
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He's not an athlete anymore. His competitive juices are gone.
And you shouldn't have to What in the world begged
somebody and talk to him into playing You can't talk
to somebody into playing football. You remember Jay Cutler's wife
talked him in the play coming back. It was a disaster.
Your heart has to be in it to play football.
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It is the most It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
You can't turn back the clock. Let's go back to
Gronk's numbers if you don't want to believe it. Since
two thousand and fifteen, Gronk has averaged forty seven catches,
seven hundred and sixty nine yards and only four touchdowns.
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Not to mention he didn't play last year. This is
not the guy you want. You had all these other
young guns and young things pieces that you claim you
already had to bring back a guy who had basically
written off football for pro wrestling. Yes, where there's a
script and where you're not gonna get hurt to come
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back and play football is a mistake and the last
thing I'm not hoping for this. I'm telling you there's
a great chance Gronk will be hurt early on, before
the halfway point of the season. That's what happens. This
is a mistake by Tampa Bay. They've turned into a
freak show. They've turned into a circus. Stop it, Rod Parker, Now,
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don't clap for that madness. I can't turn that corny
music off because I was gonna yell it at the
top of my lugs to turn that mess off. I'm
the poop pool kid. Only thing dumb was that take.
Come on, Rod Parker, that is crazy, That is ludicrous.
And I like the way that you again overstated everything
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to make it fit your narrative. You know, the last
time time Brady through when he get into the league,
they were using real pigs to throw the football, real
pigskin overstatement. A guy that's better at drinking beer than
he is at catching footballs, overstatement. Last time I saw Gronk,
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he was helping them win the AFC Championship, not to
mention the Super Bowl. The dude was coming through in
the clutch catching footballs from Tom Brady, not to mention
how much great of a blocker he was. And here's
the thing. This isn't Michael Jordan coming back to the
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Washington Wizards at thirty eight years old. This isn't some
old fogy who's done and just misses the game coming
back because he hadn't know what else to do. Grondkowski
is about to turn thirty one years old. He's still younger,
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and this time off will do him well because he's
always had a problem with staying healthy, always, always His
fourth year in the league, he missed half the season.
But this time off will gave his body time to recuperate,
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gave him time to get healthy. And I'm not predicting
a Pro Bowl season necessarily. What I'm predicting is it's
another weapon you are you are now in New England,
they could focus on Grindkowski the defense I'm talking about,
because you didn't have any other weapons with it, and
he still did damage. Now I have to worry about
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Mike Evans. I have to worry about Chris Godwin. I
may have to worry about Gronk and another tight end
if they want to go those sets, which they certainly
will on occasion. O. J. Howard, Cameron Bray, whoever it is,
Oh my goodness, Gronk hows he's gonna see less attention
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than he has throughout his career, and because of that
he will be effective. And that's what if he's not,
if he is old, if he does get hurt again,
what'd you lose nothing? You still got a very good team.
So this was a great move. Rod Parker. You can
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put on your little circus beat and music, you can
make your overstatements, you can do all of that to
poo poo it. But this was a strong move by
the Tampa baby Buccaneers that cannot hurt them in the
least bit. It will come back to bite them. And
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again it's another situation of them being I get it.
They haven't made the playoffs in twelve years. Tom Brady
shows up, so now they're gonna give the key to
the car. Let Tom Brady do what he needs to
do to feel good and forget the team and where
they were headed and how young they were. But it's fine,
let's bring in and Gronk is an old beat up
thirty one. There's a reason he wasn't playing. And again
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you watch and see all the injury problems you've had.
It doesn't make any sense. You don't need Gronk and
his numbers haven't been good for years since twenty fifteen,
so stop living in the past. No, it's not straight up.
In twenty seventeen he had sixty nine the average in
the last four years. First of all, I was hurt
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in twenty sixteen and four years when he missed, because
that's part of him being he's been good since twenty fifteen,
said average passes. He's telling you sixteen. He averaged six.
N Yowsky was not on anybody's team or not playing
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last year because his heart's not in it. His heart's
not in No, you know what wasn't in it his
body because his body was beat up. What don't you
understand about that? Football? As you said, he's the most
brutal sport outside of boxing, and he was beat up.
He's I can say he's always been injury prone. Keep
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living retired because he was beat down. Now he's had
a chance to rest for a couple of years, and again,
maybe he won't be great, But what is it hurt?
Even if he's not, it doesn't hurt you. You still
stop you living in the pass. It's stop thinking the pass.
Were thinking about Tom Brady and and Gronk with the Patriots.
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You're ain't the same forward this is watching see this
is he will be heard at some point, won't play
well and everybody will say, well back brand or Cameron Bright, Okay,
well see it. And not to mention my two good receivers.
You got an old quarterbacked onto a broken down tight end.
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This is all wishful thinking. And we know you know
it because you're fudging the numbers. In twenty seventeen, he
was All Pro, first team, All Pro. He was a
pro bowler, average sixteen years, white, qui quick because he
was a pro bowler. He quit last year, right, he
was in twenty eighteen. That's part of his story. That
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story all people, you shouldn't say, you shouldn't mock somebody
quitting because he was a pro bowler. How about your
boy Barry Sanders in Detroit, it happens. How about Calvin
Johnson in Detroit? It happens. This was a fine move period.
One of them came down and was talked into it.
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Tom Brady Hot, that's what they said. Tom Brady had
to talk him into coming back to play. Why in
the world would you let somebody talk you into plan
because down this side you wanted to play. If you
wanted to play, he would have played. And even if
you don't, like I said, it's not gonna hurt the team.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. Everybody, it seems, is wayning in on the
Last Dance documentary about Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls
in ninety seven ninety eight season their last together. You
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and I talked about it all show long yesterday. We
had David Falk, we had who was Jordan's agent, We
had Shock Shaquille O'Neill. So we had some great conversations
about it, and he always outspoken. Draymond Green is another
person who weighed in with his thoughts about it. He
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was talking with uninterrupted, which of course is Lebron James
and Maverick Carter's company. They put out a lot of
great stuff. So here was Draymond talking about his thoughts
on the documentary, and in particular, he compared it like
the way that they knew this was our last year
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together together. He compared that to what they went through
last year with Kevin Durant in Golden State. That was
kind of the elephant in the room. And although Steve
would kind of hit on it up like let's just
enjoy this year for what it is because we don't
know what the next year holds, it didn't carry necessarily
carry the same way because what should have happened was
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Kevin come out and say, hey, man, like this is it,
Like so let's let's do this or this isn't it?
You know what I'm saying. But you can't just lead
an elephant in the room. Because what happened was the
question came to us every day, like every time we
spoke to the media, Clay and myself was asked about
our contract. And it was strictly due to Kevin, you know,
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because while that was going on, Clay was saying, I
want to be a warrior forever, like I want to
be here. We started this thing. This is where I
want to be. I'm saying, yo, I want to be
here for my career. We started this, we built this.
I want to finish my career here with the guys
I started it with. And then you kind of had
Kevin like, I don't know what I'm gonna do next year,
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like and it don't matter. But it does matter because
you're not the only person that has to answer that question. Rob,
I got a lot to say about this, but I'm
gonna let you go first because I'm sure you do
as well. So what are your thoughts on what Draymond said?
I just don't understand it. I really don't. People have
a right to be free agent and determined. Everybody doesn't
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know what they're doing when you know what you're doing.
You just said it. You guys were drafted there. He
came over from there right as a free agent. He
doesn't know if it was a done deal. He saw
the contract. He said he knew when you remember, he
was on the All the Smoke podcast, I don't know,
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a month or two ago, and he said he knew
inside like midway through the season, he said, like in January,
you know, but you still don't know if that could
have changed at some point. I'm just saying, And the
only part that I really have a problem with, seriously
is if it was all about him and he wasn't,
and he was selfish and really didn't give a damn
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about the Warriors and their team, why did he go
out there off and injury Chris and further to try
to play for that team when a lot of people
thought he was crazy to go back out there. Am
I right or wrong? We don't know. I mean, you're
right there, he made it. Did he do it for
his teammates? That's certainly one way to look at it.
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But he was want to get the regard. No, yeah,
they definitely wasn't for money. It wasn't for money. So
I'm just I'm just saying. Also, we know he's got
here what they call rabbit ears where he here's everything.
I get all that. That was the point of me
and him our whole brew haha. Was I said, Look,
if they win it without him, it's not gonna look
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good for him or k D? Did he look at
it like because I hear what you're saying, Rob, it's
possibly came back because hey man, I've been the war
with these guys for two and a half years. I
want us to go out together as champions. But time
I'm gonna put it all on the line. Or did
he do it? Because now I can look like the hero.
I can prove to everybody that I you know, they
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needed me, because that's been a narrative. Did they need him?
But but the only problem that came back that narrative
is he won two MVPs with that aiden won. Chris,
come on, man, I don't believe, but I don't believe
the county. No, they weren't great because they didn't win,
But they weren't great. They lost, They lost in the
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championsho they were that right. They went to get him.
That's why they got him. I'm willing the other stuff.
Don't tell me they weren't a great team without Kevin Durant.
They showed down the three one league deat choke two.
W they great team in that year? Three? What the three?
Were they great that year? They year or they didn't
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finish the job. They don't know. Weren't great. They weren't
a great team that year. They were choked down. No,
they weren't. They won seventy see the other team and
his regular season stopped with that, And you'ren't tired again
because you hold the three one choke against them, but
you don't hold it against Durant. They never happened in
the final, damn win. It's bad. Happened. It does matter
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near a shift team every now if never, never happened
the ever never ever. The Yankees lost the four three
old first time it ever happened in baseball. They got
knocked over the head for it. They should it had
never happened in the game of baseball. Up three all.
All I'm telling you is it's different from other series series,
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being up three to one for a team to win
seventy three games. It was the round, rob it was
the conference finals. You act like it was the first round.
I'm not fine. It's as bad as the finals. But
it's bad. It's bad. You got a chance to win
your first championship and you're up three one on the
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best regular season team in history. You don't play well
in the last three games. Don't poo poo that. But
it isn't the same as the finals. Nothing. Championship for
me bigger, But it's it's bigger because I'm looking at
a championship bigger up three to one, Act like you did?
You act like the rant it's some superman. I didn't
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say that, but I'm just telling you about the Warriors.
Don't act like they didn't need to ran. They win
and got to rant because they chose. They choked down
a championship. If they were that great, they wouldn't need
him Chris. They didn't sign him because they like them.
Jay knew that they need they needed. I think they
could have came back that next year, but they won
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the championship. They didn't, right, so we don't know they
They proved they could win the championship. They proved they
could run through the league and proved the championship they
did it could happen to anybody. And they're right. They lost.
They choked. I'm not holding I'm not trying to wipe
that away, but I'm just saying that act like they
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weren't a great team is ridiculous. They ran into Lebron
James one arguably the best teat player ever, Kyrie Irving,
another Hall of Famer. Why they weren't playing chop Liver.
But they a little credit too. They didn't lose two
games all year. To lose three in a row to
end the season, and two at home, it's unforgivable. All right, fine,
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that's Are you done talking about Draymond and his thoughts
because I got my thoughts on it. Go ahead. I
get what he's saying in that. Sure, it'd be nice
if KD you know at Let me put it this way.
I'm a direct type of person. I think Draymond is too.
I would rather somebody if you got a problem with me,
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come tell me directly. You know you don't have to
do it in front of the whole team, but less
you and I sit down and go to dinner or
whatever and talk it out like men and then settle
it and move on. I don't need you to tweet something.
I gotta try to figure out what the heck you
mean Instagram. I gotta decipher some coding or you're just
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sulking over there when we gotta work together. Let's deal
with it like men, face to face. So I get
that's what Draymond saying. That's what happened with the bulls.
I wish that would have happened with him. So I
understand that perspective, But I think what Dreymond is overlooking?
Is that rob the end of me? Like Phil Jackson,
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Scottie Pippen, Rodman and Jordan had a common enemy, the
end of me. The guy that was gonna break them
up was Jerry Krause and Jerry Reinsdorf, the owner and
the general manager. It wasn't Jackson, Jordan or Pipping. If
it had been if Phil Jackson had come to them
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and said, look, I'm leaving after this year. I know
we got something good going, but I'm out of here.
This is my last year. Maybe it would have been different.
If if Pipping would have been like, Man, I'm sick.
You know, I'm sick of this here, I'm out of here,
and Jordan would have felt like he's abandoned in him
or Jordan would have been like that. Maybe it's different
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and they don't have that common enemy that they can
all focus on beating, which was their front office and ownership.
This would have been a player in your locker room
in the foxhole with you saying I'm out y'all, and
that might I don't think it. I don't know that
it would have been as smooth as Draymond saying like
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if Kad came to them in January, when, according to
him on the All the Smoke podcast, he realized he
was leaving. I don't know that Draymond and then would
have been like, Okay, cool, let's go out and win
one last one. Right, Maybe they would have been resentful.
And you make a good point, Rob. He could always
change his mind, even though he's feeling like in January
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mount out of here. He could have you know, at
some point he had time to change his mind. So
I think that's something that Draymond is not considering. Here's
the one place I'll put fault on kd is. He
sucked and he admitted it again on that All the
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Smoke podcast with Matt Barnes and even Jackson. He said, Yo,
he said, you know, when I determined in January that
I was out of there, you know, I just went
about my business. I ain't really talk to nobody. I
didn't really get down with nobody. I just can't play basketball,
and I was out. No, you can't do that, And
that shows immaturity on Duran's but he's always saying that
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to the media. Just ask me about basketball. I just
want to play basketball. No, it's deeper than that. It
can't just be I just want to play basketball. You
have to have a relationship with these players, these guys
who are your teammates. For two and a half years,
you were cool with them. You're laughing, you're joking, you're
going out with them, You're part of the crew. And
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now of a sudden, you ain't rapping with nobody. You
ain't cool with nobody. We're not hanging out anymore, and
we're supposed to just overlook that and go play basketball.
Some of the greatest teams in sports, they didn't all
get along. It ain't you don't. I'm not saying now,
you're absolutely right. I don't leaving that. I don't. I
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agree with you, Rob. I'm not saying you gotta be boys.
But it's at least if I know me and you
don't get along, at least I know and I know
why we don't get along. This is a situation. Durant
and said, we don't need you. We won without you.
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Durant should have said should the God should have said
something to him no, But that's the guy has he
saying everybody else, I'm just asking. I'm just saying, I'm
not asking about Raymond. Ask me what Draymond, He's the
guy who's got a problem with it. He's the one
to cold Kevin Durant. We don't need you the B word,
we want without you, And now you're asking he's supposed
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to tell you what he's doing. I don't get it, Chris,
I don't get well. Why is durand he feigned fiend
like they were cool. You We saw pictures and videos
of then walking in the shooter rounds together laughing. He
just did what he had to do to get through
the world. And that's where I that's my only like again,
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it's the difference personalities, But Kevin dured holds things in
to himself. He does it his way. You know. Here's
the other thing with that, Rob, I'll agree with you
on this with Draymond. Draymond to your point, it was
wanting KD to tell him right, but yet the way
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you got KD you think him Jetty on y'all was hard.
How about what he did to Okay see and you
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We've got a special guest. He is the executive vice
president of NFL Football Operations. Played the game as well.
I'm sure you remember he was a five time pro bowler. Oh,
Troy Vincent a hard hitter too back then. Troy, what's
up man? Welcome to the eye couple. How you all
doing this evening? I hear you to think Michael Jackson
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and print all right, so what's your what's your answer?
What's your man? That glove and that moonwalk man? Not
Michael Jackson, no question, ran down right, And that's not
the this Prince. It's just that Michael Jackson was all
around entertainer, dancer, singer, he wrote his music, he did
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everything everything, and the longevity, yes, different, I thought it was.
It was a different audience now when you can move
the guys on the block. Man, Mike had everybody going crazy,
right right, no question? I mean, and Prince, like you said,
Rob great, tremendous, but right, Michael Jackson was just in
the league by himself, period and so uh so that's great.
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So we off to a good start, Troy. But you
you did something well. The players coalition, which we know
as the group that's that's been led by players like
Malcolm Jenkins and others and Inspire Change, which is the NFL.
They came together and they donated basically like three million
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dollars to aid people in various cities during this pandemic
the coronavirus. And that's tremendous in and of itself, but
one thing you guys did is you made sure the
money was geared toward helping communities of color specifically because
they are being hit the hardest. African Americans and Latinos
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are being hit the hardest by this virus. Can you
kind of talk about how this came together and why
you guys focused it the way you did. Yeah, So,
you know, we watched, like everyone else, as science came out,
as the medical field was talking about how the pandemic
the virus was, you know, basically it was in every city,
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and as weeks progressed, more science and more studies came out.
You saw that there was a and it was brought
to to, you know, to our attention as we were
studying it from a few of our colleagues internally. And
Malcolm was he did a PSA and what the science
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was saying, it just was alarming. One day you wake up,
you see it hitting all the different cities. And then
one way, one morning we wake up and doctor Fashi
was talking about the disproportion of African Americans and Latinos
that was dying. And then after the second and third day,
it was like whoa, like this is this is this
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is real. And then the players, the commissioner, they got
together and they just said, you know, they just start studying,
like literally studying which of these cities are these people
of color, blacks and Latinos are dying. And they got together,
both owners and players, and went into Baltimore, identified like
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seven different states Atlanta, Georgia, Baltimore, Maryland, Chicago, Illinois, Detroit, Florida,
down in Miami, Day, Louisiana, and DC and specifically geared
the money a little over three million dollars towards hospitals
and grassroot organizations that were carrying in the front line,
the caretakers and those first responders that we're dealing with
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black and brown people, which was not that others not important.
But you know, we have the draft of down where
we are, you know, we're partner in and we're raising
money throughout the draft for national organizations. But the players said,
the players coalition and the leader in the leadership group
from the owner side and the commissioner said, Okay, we
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got to focus in on these cities because these numbers
are alarming. You can't ignore them. So just tremendous leadership
on their behalf. That's great. Yeah, definitely awesome to understand
what's happening and putting money where it needs to go,
you know what I mean, Not that it doesn't go everywhere,
but but you know, zeroing in on area's hardest hit Troy.
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You know, there's a lot of talk the NFL seasons
ways away. We don't know what's going on. Some states
are starting to reopen. We don't know how long it'll
be before sports has started up again. But when you
hear the scenarios and circumstances where people are talking about
bringing players to a place quarantining them for three or
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four months where they can't see their family or wives
or kids and or anything to play sports, I don't
know if that would work if I was a player,
if I would be gamed with at considering what's happened
in the country, Can you help me to explain why
someone would be willing to do that be a way
not make love to their wife or hug their children
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for months just to play ball, or I would I'm
in my position, that's not something that that would be
something I would recommend to membership in order the commissioner,
there has to be other options. But to me, when
I hear that, that's not reasonable when you start talking
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about family and displacing the sport is one thing, but
the sport is a byproduct of everything else that we do.
That's that's the truth, and that would not be in
my current role as I do reasonable planning, contingency planning,
responsible planning. I would I would sit and across from
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the commissioner membership. That is as much as we want
to play here, we're in a position where we can
learn from other sports and because we're not in our season,
so we have an opportunity to sit back and learn,
but rob to displace family members and this is all
about family, right and that the game would be gone
and it's it's about family, the people who truly love
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you in your character. That's not to me. I don't
know if that would be to me, that's not reasonable planning.
And I don't know of our if the players, frankly
the coaches, I'm not sure if that's the place that
we want to be in because I hear people ahead,
Troy Vincent, executive vice president NFL Operations, joining the eye couple,
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go ahead, rap, Because I just hear people throw this
stuff out, and I just say to them, do you
realize that these players are people and have families and
god forbid, you're away at a time where people are
dying and you know what I mean, and you're not
there because you're I just when I hear people talk,
I don't think that they look at players as people
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who are part of this and who have family members
who are living this, children allowing this very callous, very callous.
So yeah, I just again, as we playing, as as
the team and I are together, that is something we look,
we're listening, we're watching. But to displace families, husbands from
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their their families, their mothers, their sisters, their daughters, I'm
not sure if that's the place we want to be,
And that's not that's not being the model that I
would say that we want to be. Troy, are there
because we've seen a lot of scenarios thrown out and
some maybe media members are just throwing them out. But
most of us watching this assume that these are leaks,
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you know, coming from the league, coming from executives, and
and a lot of times it's executives just on league
teams talking about this scenario, that scenario. Are there a
lot of scenarios you're seeing out there on the television
on the radio that really aren't based in fact, that
that the league's not really considering, But people are talking
about them like their real possibilities. That those things are
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just that's gossip, that's news, that's clickbait. We're getting our
direction clearly from the medical community. We're not even moving,
We're not thinking we're planning to have a full season
until the medical community tells us differently. Today, the stay
home orders tell us there is no draft in this
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current state, so there's a virtual draft. The current stay
home orders are telling us that there is no all
season today. You have to do those things virtually, So
our planning will be will be predicated upon what the
medical community tells us. When that time is, we could
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potentially just return back to work. So I just say, Chris,
that's along, that's just media talk. I don't know who
Bill's executive the arm from different, but we haven't even
gone that far. Our focus is on with the federal, state,
and local governments are telling us what we can and
can't do. Try let me ask you. The big news
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of the day was obviously Rob Grindcowsey coming out of
retirement getting traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to reunite
with Tom Brady. Now we know when he's young, he's
only you know, gonna be thirty one in May. We
know when he retired his body was beat up. You
haven't played the game a full career. Is it possible
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because I'm thinking the year off, you know, he's still young,
it probably did his body good and he should be
able to you know, he may be able to come
back and be fine physically. After you've played the game
for ten years or so. Does a year off do
that for you? Or is that kind of wishful thinking? No? Absolutely,
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I think you have to stay active and the more
you ate each you want to be you want to
stay as active as possible. Now, at the end of
the day, he at least he's been. He shredded some
pounds with what you're seeing, so he'll come back at
at least lean, but a year away from football, he'll connect.
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I mean he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll get his body. Will
he be the same? Hey, that was a machine up
there in New England, right, I mean that was a
complete machine. They were connecting. To try to transfer all
of that down. To understand the Brady and his connection
to transfer that down to Tampa, only God knows. But
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it is tough to take the year off and come
back and play at that same well, unless you him, Jay, well,
all right, I'm glad you went. He no doubt about it.
I'm trying to tell Chris it's a circus going on
down to Tampa, That's what it is. I'm wanting to
see the bearded lady next to the dinosaur quarterback and
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the frat boy tight end. That's what I want to
see see. He's taking Oh yeah, the division, the playoffs.
They're not making the playoffs. Chris and I have a
wings bet. We got wings on it. I got them
knock the playoffs, don't you got? You got New Orleans down,
You got breeze. New Orleans can make it too. But
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remember it's an extra team too. Now there's seven in
each conference. If you think Atlanta is gonna be down,
another down, another year crazy with sugar up. Thank you
tell them, Troy, you gave us between m J and Prince.
You gave us m J, Michael Jackson, m J, Lebron. Um.
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I grew up man. All I knew was was Michael Jordans.
I love Lebron, but I want to be everything that
Michael Jordan represented. When I was watching The Deal the
on the other night, I wish I went down serious,
I shared with my wife. I wanted to talk like
this man. I tried to walk, I was, I was
already pigeoned. Told I wanted to be more because I
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wanted to be just like Mike, But I wanted to
be just like I love Lebron every in this generation,
I mean fabulous. But Mike transcended the game right right,
He transcended the game Troy, and say I need to
get you on the show to fill in with me
one day. You know you got it right and Lebron too. No,
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I know that, But I mean we eye to eye
on everything that's not Roy that is good and good
it is you eye with dark Man anytime. Come back
to the show. Thank you ding these times
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Coup of
with Chris Brussa and Rod Harker. We're gonna come in,
Starron and come in. Correct. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have
traded this is a shocker with the New England Patriots.
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They traded a fourth round pick in this week's draft
for a seventh round pick and Rob grin Kowski, the
tight end for the New England page of the Hall
of Famer soon to be Hall of Fame tight end
uh for New England. Who's teamed up with Tom Brady
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so well over the course of their career. And let
me start by saying this, robbing in, I'm quickly gonna
give you the mic. We had a bet. We had
a wing bet that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will make
the playoffs. Nothing you know, I didn't. We didn't bet
super Bowl or anything like that. But I'm saying they'll
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make the playoffs. I'm a gentleman, and we've made the
bet before this news of getting drunk. So if you
want to get out of the bet, in the bet,
eliminate the bet, I'm gonna give you that opportunity. Absolutely, not,
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no way, no how. Actually I'll double the bet with you.
Why don't we have what we have? Ten? I thought
we had ten in a drink. Let's I don't have
any interest in doing more than that, but yeah, twenty,
I think we had ten and the drink. Let's do
twenty work. So obviously you're not You're not moved by this,
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not at all? Is this on? Because I hope they
can hear us in Tampa Bay again, another desperate moved
by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I know you haven't made
the playoffs in twelve years, but obviously your judgment has
been foggy, and now that you have Tom Brady in
the fold, everything has turned into old timer's day. What
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in the world is the Tampa Bay Bucks doing? You
know what? They've turned this franchise into a freak show,
into a circus, that's what this has turned into. Now
Come see the old quarterback who's ninety five years old,
and when he first started playing, they used the real pig.
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Come see the frat boy tight end who's better at
lifting beers to his mouth than catching footballs. And here
is ron Gronkowski. Gronk, He ain't the competitor he once was.
He walked away for the game and turned it too wrestling.
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He's not an athlete anymore. His competitive juices are gone.
And you shouldn't have to What in the world begged
somebody and talk to him into playing You can't talk
to somebody into playing football. You remember Jay Cutler's wife
talked him in the play coming back. It was a disaster.
Your heart has to be in it to play football.
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It is the most It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
You can't turn back the clock. Let's go back to
Gronk's numbers if you don't want to believe it. Since
two thousand and fifteen, Gronk has averaged forty seven catches,
seven hundred and sixty nine yards and only four touchdowns.
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Not to mention he didn't play last year. This is
not the guy you want. You had all these other
young guns and young things pieces that you claim you
already had to bring back a guy who had basically
written off football for pro wrestling. Yes, where there's a
script and where you're not gonna get hurt to come
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back and play football is a mistake and the last
thing I'm not hoping for this. I'm telling you there's
a great chance Gronk will be hurt early on, before
the halfway point of the season. That's what happens. This
is a mistake by Tampa Bay. They've turned into a
freak show. They've turned into a circus. Stop it, Rod Parker, Now,
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don't clap for that madness. I can't turn that corny
music off because I was gonna yell it at the
top of my lugs to turn that mess off. I'm
the poop pool kid. Only thing dumb was that take.
Come on, Rod Parker, that is crazy, That is ludicrous.
And I like the way that you again overstated everything
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to make it fit your narrative. You know, the last
time time Brady through when he get into the league,
they were using real pigs to throw the football, real
pigskin overstatement. A guy that's better at drinking beer than
he is at catching footballs, overstatement. Last time I saw Gronk,
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he was helping them win the AFC Championship, not to
mention the Super Bowl. The dude was coming through in
the clutch catching footballs from Tom Brady, not to mention
how much great of a blocker he was. And here's
the thing. This isn't Michael Jordan coming back to the
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Washington Wizards at thirty eight years old. This isn't some
old fogy who's done and just misses the game coming
back because he hadn't know what else to do. Grondkowski
is about to turn thirty one years old. He's still younger,
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and this time off will do him well because he's
always had a problem with staying healthy, always, always His
fourth year in the league, he missed half the season.
But this time off will gave his body time to recuperate,
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gave him time to get healthy. And I'm not predicting
a Pro Bowl season necessarily. What I'm predicting is it's
another weapon you are you are now in New England,
they could focus on Grindkowski the defense I'm talking about,
because you didn't have any other weapons with it, and
he still did damage. Now I have to worry about
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Mike Evans. I have to worry about Chris Godwin. I
may have to worry about Gronk and another tight end
if they want to go those sets, which they certainly
will on occasion. O. J. Howard, Cameron Bray, whoever it is,
Oh my goodness, Gronk hows he's gonna see less attention
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than he has throughout his career, and because of that
he will be effective. And that's what if he's not,
if he is old, if he does get hurt again,
what'd you lose nothing? You still got a very good team.
So this was a great move. Rod Parker. You can
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put on your little circus beat and music, you can
make your overstatements, you can do all of that to
poo poo it. But this was a strong move by
the Tampa baby Buccaneers that cannot hurt them in the
least bit. It will come back to bite them. And
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again it's another situation of them being I get it.
They haven't made the playoffs in twelve years. Tom Brady
shows up, so now they're gonna give the key to
the car. Let Tom Brady do what he needs to
do to feel good and forget the team and where
they were headed and how young they were. But it's fine,
let's bring in and Gronk is an old beat up
thirty one. There's a reason he wasn't playing. And again
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you watch and see all the injury problems you've had.
It doesn't make any sense. You don't need Gronk and
his numbers haven't been good for years since twenty fifteen,
so stop living in the past. No, it's not straight up.
In twenty seventeen he had sixty nine the average in
the last four years. First of all, I was hurt
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in twenty sixteen and four years when he missed, because
that's part of him being he's been good since twenty fifteen,
said average passes. He's telling you sixteen. He averaged six.
N Yowsky was not on anybody's team or not playing
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last year because his heart's not in it. His heart's
not in No, you know what wasn't in it his
body because his body was beat up. What don't you
understand about that? Football? As you said, he's the most
brutal sport outside of boxing, and he was beat up.
He's I can say he's always been injury prone. Keep
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living retired because he was beat down. Now he's had
a chance to rest for a couple of years, and again,
maybe he won't be great, But what is it hurt?
Even if he's not, it doesn't hurt you. You still
stop you living in the pass. It's stop thinking the pass.
Were thinking about Tom Brady and and Gronk with the Patriots.
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You're ain't the same forward this is watching see this
is he will be heard at some point, won't play
well and everybody will say, well back brand or Cameron Bright, Okay,
well see it. And not to mention my two good receivers.
You got an old quarterbacked onto a broken down tight end.
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This is all wishful thinking. And we know you know
it because you're fudging the numbers. In twenty seventeen, he
was All Pro, first team, All Pro. He was a
pro bowler, average sixteen years, white, qui quick because he
was a pro bowler. He quit last year, right, he
was in twenty eighteen. That's part of his story. That
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story all people, you shouldn't say, you shouldn't mock somebody
quitting because he was a pro bowler. How about your
boy Barry Sanders in Detroit, it happens. How about Calvin
Johnson in Detroit? It happens. This was a fine move period.
One of them came down and was talked into it.
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Tom Brady Hot, that's what they said. Tom Brady had
to talk him into coming back to play. Why in
the world would you let somebody talk you into plan
because down this side you wanted to play. If you
wanted to play, he would have played. And even if
you don't, like I said, it's not gonna hurt the team.
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with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. Everybody, it seems, is wayning in on the
Last Dance documentary about Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls
in ninety seven ninety eight season their last together. You
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and I talked about it all show long yesterday. We
had David Falk, we had who was Jordan's agent, We
had Shock Shaquille O'Neill. So we had some great conversations
about it, and he always outspoken. Draymond Green is another
person who weighed in with his thoughts about it. He
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was talking with uninterrupted, which of course is Lebron James
and Maverick Carter's company. They put out a lot of
great stuff. So here was Draymond talking about his thoughts
on the documentary, and in particular, he compared it like
the way that they knew this was our last year
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together together. He compared that to what they went through
last year with Kevin Durant in Golden State. That was
kind of the elephant in the room. And although Steve
would kind of hit on it up like let's just
enjoy this year for what it is because we don't
know what the next year holds, it didn't carry necessarily
carry the same way because what should have happened was
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Kevin come out and say, hey, man, like this is it,
Like so let's let's do this or this isn't it?
You know what I'm saying. But you can't just lead
an elephant in the room. Because what happened was the
question came to us every day, like every time we
spoke to the media, Clay and myself was asked about
our contract. And it was strictly due to Kevin, you know,
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because while that was going on, Clay was saying, I
want to be a warrior forever, like I want to
be here. We started this thing. This is where I
want to be. I'm saying, yo, I want to be
here for my career. We started this, we built this.
I want to finish my career here with the guys
I started it with. And then you kind of had
Kevin like, I don't know what I'm gonna do next year,
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like and it don't matter. But it does matter because
you're not the only person that has to answer that question. Rob,
I got a lot to say about this, but I'm
gonna let you go first because I'm sure you do
as well. So what are your thoughts on what Draymond said?
I just don't understand it. I really don't. People have
a right to be free agent and determined. Everybody doesn't
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know what they're doing when you know what you're doing.
You just said it. You guys were drafted there. He
came over from there right as a free agent. He
doesn't know if it was a done deal. He saw
the contract. He said he knew when you remember, he
was on the All the Smoke podcast, I don't know,
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a month or two ago, and he said he knew
inside like midway through the season, he said, like in January,
you know, but you still don't know if that could
have changed at some point. I'm just saying, And the
only part that I really have a problem with, seriously
is if it was all about him and he wasn't,
and he was selfish and really didn't give a damn
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about the Warriors and their team, why did he go
out there off and injury Chris and further to try
to play for that team when a lot of people
thought he was crazy to go back out there. Am
I right or wrong? We don't know. I mean, you're
right there, he made it. Did he do it for
his teammates? That's certainly one way to look at it.
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But he was want to get the regard. No, yeah,
they definitely wasn't for money. It wasn't for money. So
I'm just I'm just saying. Also, we know he's got
here what they call rabbit ears where he here's everything.
I get all that. That was the point of me
and him our whole brew haha. Was I said, Look,
if they win it without him, it's not gonna look
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good for him or k D? Did he look at
it like because I hear what you're saying, Rob, it's
possibly came back because hey man, I've been the war
with these guys for two and a half years. I
want us to go out together as champions. But time
I'm gonna put it all on the line. Or did
he do it? Because now I can look like the hero.
I can prove to everybody that I you know, they
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needed me, because that's been a narrative. Did they need him?
But but the only problem that came back that narrative
is he won two MVPs with that aiden won. Chris,
come on, man, I don't believe, but I don't believe
the county. No, they weren't great because they didn't win,
But they weren't great. They lost, They lost in the
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championsho they were that right. They went to get him.
That's why they got him. I'm willing the other stuff.
Don't tell me they weren't a great team without Kevin Durant.
They showed down the three one league deat choke two.
W they great team in that year? Three? What the three?
Were they great that year? They year or they didn't
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finish the job. They don't know. Weren't great. They weren't
a great team that year. They were choked down. No,
they weren't. They won seventy see the other team and
his regular season stopped with that, And you'ren't tired again
because you hold the three one choke against them, but
you don't hold it against Durant. They never happened in
the final, damn win. It's bad. Happened. It does matter
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near a shift team every now if never, never happened
the ever never ever. The Yankees lost the four three
old first time it ever happened in baseball. They got
knocked over the head for it. They should it had
never happened in the game of baseball. Up three all.
All I'm telling you is it's different from other series series,
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being up three to one for a team to win
seventy three games. It was the round, rob it was
the conference finals. You act like it was the first round.
I'm not fine. It's as bad as the finals. But
it's bad. It's bad. You got a chance to win
your first championship and you're up three one on the
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best regular season team in history. You don't play well
in the last three games. Don't poo poo that. But
it isn't the same as the finals. Nothing. Championship for
me bigger, But it's it's bigger because I'm looking at
a championship bigger up three to one, Act like you did?
You act like the rant it's some superman. I didn't
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say that, but I'm just telling you about the Warriors.
Don't act like they didn't need to ran. They win
and got to rant because they chose. They choked down
a championship. If they were that great, they wouldn't need
him Chris. They didn't sign him because they like them.
Jay knew that they need they needed. I think they
could have came back that next year, but they won
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the championship. They didn't, right, so we don't know they
They proved they could win the championship. They proved they
could run through the league and proved the championship they
did it could happen to anybody. And they're right. They lost.
They choked. I'm not holding I'm not trying to wipe
that away, but I'm just saying that act like they
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weren't a great team is ridiculous. They ran into Lebron
James one arguably the best teat player ever, Kyrie Irving,
another Hall of Famer. Why they weren't playing chop Liver.
But they a little credit too. They didn't lose two
games all year. To lose three in a row to
end the season, and two at home, it's unforgivable. All right, fine,
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that's Are you done talking about Draymond and his thoughts
because I got my thoughts on it. Go ahead. I
get what he's saying in that. Sure, it'd be nice
if KD you know at Let me put it this way.
I'm a direct type of person. I think Draymond is too.
I would rather somebody if you got a problem with me,
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come tell me directly. You know you don't have to
do it in front of the whole team, but less
you and I sit down and go to dinner or
whatever and talk it out like men and then settle
it and move on. I don't need you to tweet something.
I gotta try to figure out what the heck you
mean Instagram. I gotta decipher some coding or you're just
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sulking over there when we gotta work together. Let's deal
with it like men, face to face. So I get
that's what Draymond saying. That's what happened with the bulls.
I wish that would have happened with him. So I
understand that perspective, But I think what Dreymond is overlooking?
Is that rob the end of me? Like Phil Jackson,
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Scottie Pippen, Rodman and Jordan had a common enemy, the
end of me. The guy that was gonna break them
up was Jerry Krause and Jerry Reinsdorf, the owner and
the general manager. It wasn't Jackson, Jordan or Pipping. If
it had been if Phil Jackson had come to them
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and said, look, I'm leaving after this year. I know
we got something good going, but I'm out of here.
This is my last year. Maybe it would have been different.
If if Pipping would have been like, Man, I'm sick.
You know, I'm sick of this here, I'm out of here,
and Jordan would have felt like he's abandoned in him
or Jordan would have been like that. Maybe it's different
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and they don't have that common enemy that they can
all focus on beating, which was their front office and ownership.
This would have been a player in your locker room
in the foxhole with you saying I'm out y'all, and
that might I don't think it. I don't know that
it would have been as smooth as Draymond saying like
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if Kad came to them in January, when, according to
him on the All the Smoke podcast, he realized he
was leaving. I don't know that Draymond and then would
have been like, Okay, cool, let's go out and win
one last one. Right, Maybe they would have been resentful.
And you make a good point, Rob. He could always
change his mind, even though he's feeling like in January
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mount out of here. He could have you know, at
some point he had time to change his mind. So
I think that's something that Draymond is not considering. Here's
the one place I'll put fault on kd is. He
sucked and he admitted it again on that All the
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Smoke podcast with Matt Barnes and even Jackson. He said, Yo,
he said, you know, when I determined in January that
I was out of there, you know, I just went
about my business. I ain't really talk to nobody. I
didn't really get down with nobody. I just can't play basketball,
and I was out. No, you can't do that, And
that shows immaturity on Duran's but he's always saying that
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to the media. Just ask me about basketball. I just
want to play basketball. No, it's deeper than that. It
can't just be I just want to play basketball. You
have to have a relationship with these players, these guys
who are your teammates. For two and a half years,
you were cool with them. You're laughing, you're joking, you're
going out with them, You're part of the crew. And
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now of a sudden, you ain't rapping with nobody. You
ain't cool with nobody. We're not hanging out anymore, and
we're supposed to just overlook that and go play basketball.
Some of the greatest teams in sports, they didn't all
get along. It ain't you don't. I'm not saying now,
you're absolutely right. I don't leaving that. I don't. I
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agree with you, Rob. I'm not saying you gotta be boys.
But it's at least if I know me and you
don't get along, at least I know and I know
why we don't get along. This is a situation. Durant
and said, we don't need you. We won without you.
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Durant should have said should the God should have said
something to him no, But that's the guy has he
saying everybody else, I'm just asking. I'm just saying, I'm
not asking about Raymond. Ask me what Draymond, He's the
guy who's got a problem with it. He's the one
to cold Kevin Durant. We don't need you the B word,
we want without you, And now you're asking he's supposed
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to tell you what he's doing. I don't get it, Chris,
I don't get well. Why is durand he feigned fiend
like they were cool. You We saw pictures and videos
of then walking in the shooter rounds together laughing. He
just did what he had to do to get through
the world. And that's where I that's my only like again,
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it's the difference personalities, But Kevin dured holds things in
to himself. He does it his way. You know. Here's
the other thing with that, Rob, I'll agree with you
on this with Draymond. Draymond to your point, it was
wanting KD to tell him right, but yet the way
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you got KD you think him Jetty on y'all was hard.
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We've got a special guest. He is the executive vice
president of NFL Football Operations. Played the game as well.
I'm sure you remember he was a five time pro bowler. Oh,
Troy Vincent a hard hitter too back then. Troy, what's
up man? Welcome to the eye couple. How you all
doing this evening? I hear you to think Michael Jackson
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and print all right, so what's your what's your answer?
What's your man? That glove and that moonwalk man? Not
Michael Jackson, no question, ran down right, And that's not
the this Prince. It's just that Michael Jackson was all
around entertainer, dancer, singer, he wrote his music, he did
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everything everything, and the longevity, yes, different, I thought it was.
It was a different audience now when you can move
the guys on the block. Man, Mike had everybody going crazy,
right right, no question? I mean, and Prince, like you said,
Rob great, tremendous, but right, Michael Jackson was just in
the league by himself, period and so uh so that's great.
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So we off to a good start, Troy. But you
you did something well. The players coalition, which we know
as the group that's that's been led by players like
Malcolm Jenkins and others and Inspire Change, which is the NFL.
They came together and they donated basically like three million
(26:19):
dollars to aid people in various cities during this pandemic
the coronavirus. And that's tremendous in and of itself, but
one thing you guys did is you made sure the
money was geared toward helping communities of color specifically because
they are being hit the hardest. African Americans and Latinos
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are being hit the hardest by this virus. Can you
kind of talk about how this came together and why
you guys focused it the way you did. Yeah, So,
you know, we watched, like everyone else, as science came out,
as the medical field was talking about how the pandemic
the virus was, you know, basically it was in every city,
(27:05):
and as weeks progressed, more science and more studies came out.
You saw that there was a and it was brought
to to, you know, to our attention as we were
studying it from a few of our colleagues internally. And
Malcolm was he did a PSA and what the science
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was saying, it just was alarming. One day you wake up,
you see it hitting all the different cities. And then
one way, one morning we wake up and doctor Fashi
was talking about the disproportion of African Americans and Latinos
that was dying. And then after the second and third day,
it was like whoa, like this is this is this
(27:49):
is real. And then the players, the commissioner, they got
together and they just said, you know, they just start studying,
like literally studying which of these cities are these people
of color, blacks and Latinos are dying. And they got together,
both owners and players, and went into Baltimore, identified like
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seven different states Atlanta, Georgia, Baltimore, Maryland, Chicago, Illinois, Detroit, Florida,
down in Miami, Day, Louisiana, and DC and specifically geared
the money a little over three million dollars towards hospitals
and grassroot organizations that were carrying in the front line,
the caretakers and those first responders that we're dealing with
(28:37):
black and brown people, which was not that others not important.
But you know, we have the draft of down where
we are, you know, we're partner in and we're raising
money throughout the draft for national organizations. But the players said,
the players coalition and the leader in the leadership group
from the owner side and the commissioner said, Okay, we
(28:57):
got to focus in on these cities because these numbers
are alarming. You can't ignore them. So just tremendous leadership
on their behalf. That's great. Yeah, definitely awesome to understand
what's happening and putting money where it needs to go,
you know what I mean, Not that it doesn't go everywhere,
but but you know, zeroing in on area's hardest hit Troy.
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You know, there's a lot of talk the NFL seasons
ways away. We don't know what's going on. Some states
are starting to reopen. We don't know how long it'll
be before sports has started up again. But when you
hear the scenarios and circumstances where people are talking about
bringing players to a place quarantining them for three or
(29:47):
four months where they can't see their family or wives
or kids and or anything to play sports, I don't
know if that would work if I was a player,
if I would be gamed with at considering what's happened
in the country, Can you help me to explain why
someone would be willing to do that be a way
not make love to their wife or hug their children
(30:09):
for months just to play ball, or I would I'm
in my position, that's not something that that would be
something I would recommend to membership in order the commissioner,
there has to be other options. But to me, when
I hear that, that's not reasonable when you start talking
(30:32):
about family and displacing the sport is one thing, but
the sport is a byproduct of everything else that we do.
That's that's the truth, and that would not be in
my current role as I do reasonable planning, contingency planning,
responsible planning. I would I would sit and across from
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the commissioner membership. That is as much as we want
to play here, we're in a position where we can
learn from other sports and because we're not in our season,
so we have an opportunity to sit back and learn,
but rob to displace family members and this is all
about family, right and that the game would be gone
and it's it's about family, the people who truly love
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you in your character. That's not to me. I don't
know if that would be to me, that's not reasonable planning.
And I don't know of our if the players, frankly
the coaches, I'm not sure if that's the place that
we want to be in because I hear people ahead,
Troy Vincent, executive vice president NFL Operations, joining the eye couple,
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go ahead, rap, Because I just hear people throw this
stuff out, and I just say to them, do you
realize that these players are people and have families and
god forbid, you're away at a time where people are
dying and you know what I mean, and you're not
there because you're I just when I hear people talk,
I don't think that they look at players as people
(31:55):
who are part of this and who have family members
who are living this, children allowing this very callous, very callous.
So yeah, I just again, as we playing, as as
the team and I are together, that is something we look,
we're listening, we're watching. But to displace families, husbands from
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their their families, their mothers, their sisters, their daughters, I'm
not sure if that's the place we want to be,
And that's not that's not being the model that I
would say that we want to be. Troy, are there
because we've seen a lot of scenarios thrown out and
some maybe media members are just throwing them out. But
most of us watching this assume that these are leaks,
(32:41):
you know, coming from the league, coming from executives, and
and a lot of times it's executives just on league
teams talking about this scenario, that scenario. Are there a
lot of scenarios you're seeing out there on the television
on the radio that really aren't based in fact, that
that the league's not really considering, But people are talking
about them like their real possibilities. That those things are
(33:04):
just that's gossip, that's news, that's clickbait. We're getting our
direction clearly from the medical community. We're not even moving,
We're not thinking we're planning to have a full season
until the medical community tells us differently. Today, the stay
home orders tell us there is no draft in this
(33:28):
current state, so there's a virtual draft. The current stay
home orders are telling us that there is no all
season today. You have to do those things virtually, So
our planning will be will be predicated upon what the
medical community tells us. When that time is, we could
(33:49):
potentially just return back to work. So I just say, Chris,
that's along, that's just media talk. I don't know who
Bill's executive the arm from different, but we haven't even
gone that far. Our focus is on with the federal, state,
and local governments are telling us what we can and
can't do. Try let me ask you. The big news
(34:13):
of the day was obviously Rob Grindcowsey coming out of
retirement getting traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to reunite
with Tom Brady. Now we know when he's young, he's
only you know, gonna be thirty one in May. We
know when he retired his body was beat up. You
haven't played the game a full career. Is it possible
(34:36):
because I'm thinking the year off, you know, he's still young,
it probably did his body good and he should be
able to you know, he may be able to come
back and be fine physically. After you've played the game
for ten years or so. Does a year off do
that for you? Or is that kind of wishful thinking? No? Absolutely,
(34:56):
I think you have to stay active and the more
you ate each you want to be you want to
stay as active as possible. Now, at the end of
the day, he at least he's been. He shredded some
pounds with what you're seeing, so he'll come back at
at least lean, but a year away from football, he'll connect.
(35:19):
I mean he'll, he'll, he'll, he'll get his body. Will
he be the same? Hey, that was a machine up
there in New England, right, I mean that was a
complete machine. They were connecting. To try to transfer all
of that down. To understand the Brady and his connection
to transfer that down to Tampa, only God knows. But
(35:42):
it is tough to take the year off and come
back and play at that same well, unless you him, Jay, well,
all right, I'm glad you went. He no doubt about it.
I'm trying to tell Chris it's a circus going on
down to Tampa, That's what it is. I'm wanting to
see the bearded lady next to the dinosaur quarterback and
(36:02):
the frat boy tight end. That's what I want to
see see. He's taking Oh yeah, the division, the playoffs.
They're not making the playoffs. Chris and I have a
wings bet. We got wings on it. I got them
knock the playoffs, don't you got? You got New Orleans down,
You got breeze. New Orleans can make it too. But
(36:25):
remember it's an extra team too. Now there's seven in
each conference. If you think Atlanta is gonna be down,
another down, another year crazy with sugar up. Thank you
tell them, Troy, you gave us between m J and Prince.
You gave us m J, Michael Jackson, m J, Lebron. Um.
(36:46):
I grew up man. All I knew was was Michael Jordans.
I love Lebron, but I want to be everything that
Michael Jordan represented. When I was watching The Deal the
on the other night, I wish I went down serious,
I shared with my wife. I wanted to talk like
this man. I tried to walk, I was, I was
already pigeoned. Told I wanted to be more because I
(37:07):
wanted to be just like Mike, But I wanted to
be just like I love Lebron every in this generation,
I mean fabulous. But Mike transcended the game right right,
He transcended the game Troy, and say I need to
get you on the show to fill in with me
one day. You know you got it right and Lebron too. No,
(37:31):
I know that, But I mean we eye to eye
on everything that's not Roy that is good and good
it is you eye with dark Man anytime. Come back
to the show. Thank you ding these times
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