June 26, 2020 • 34 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! The guys say now is the time for the NFL and the players to take a stand and demand a change to the name of the Washington franchise. Longtime Comedian and Actor Sinbad jumps on for Celebrity Corner to talk about the Black Lives Matter movement, how the pandemic has affected the industry and much more! Plus, the guys debate over whether or not the Packers have have wasted Aaron Rodgers' career.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. The National Congress
of American Indians has called on players for the Washington
Redskins to speak out against the team name, and she
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is calling for them to get rid of it. Here
here's a little bit of the statement. I am calling
for members of the NFL franchise in Washington, d c.
To rise to the occasion and become heroes. All I
ask is that you state the unequivocal moral truth. Just
as you would never play for the Washington insert any
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other racial slur, you will no longer play for any
team branded with a racial slur against Native Americans as
long as that team name stands. Players of conscience should
conscience should sit at home rather than where the NFL
equivalent of the Confederate flag, that is NCAI President Fawn
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sharp and I say, Fawn, more power to you. Can
we get a fire for that? Throw it out, Alex,
that's fire from right. We don't have it. Look you
throw the fire, go ahead, all right? Straight fire there,
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We got fire. And what she said, Chris is right
on the money. Stop with all this. You know what's
going on in this country. And God bless Native Americans.
They see what's going on. They see that Uncle Benn
and Aunt Jemima out of work. They see that the
last Sambo's restaurant, Chris has been name has been changed. Right?
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Why why shouldn't they want to get it involved? They
stopped calling it? Put us at the Eskimo Pie no more?
Why not? It's time in NFL pastime. You're two hundred
and fifty million dollars. Is nice? You woke? Now you
really work and you get it. We all know that
that name. I don't even like saying it, Chris. I
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don't even like saying it anymore. And there are newspapers
and news organizations around this country that have banned the
use of it. When I wrote a column about a
week ago about this a dead spend, we wouldn't use it.
We wouldn't use the our skins. We wouldn't use it, Chris,
even in the copy, even in the headline. Enough already,
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and you know what, Chris, I'm gonna say this. This
thing can be done, done and over with in two seconds. Yep.
When the players say that they refuse to wear that
helmet and refuse to wear those uniforms, the NFL and
Daniel Schneider will have no choice, zero Because if the
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players revault and stand up for this and refuse to
wear that, there's no way you can have a team
in Washington, d C. They won't miss a game. And
the only way they'll miss a practice is because the
powers that people want to wait and see if they
mean business, and once they show they mean business, it'll
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be changed yesterday. And for those that are wondering, because
I brought this up last week, Robe when you were
on your staycation, that if this term is offensive to
Native Americans, then it must go. And if you're really
against racism, then it's not just racism against African Americans,
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it's racism against Native Americans as well, absolutely all people
of this land. We're gonna be inclusive, that's what this
country's all about. We're the only nation that has people
from everywhere. Chris, you go to Japan, it's ninety nine
percent Japanese go at most places where all people from
all over the world. Everybody should be welcome to the party.
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We need to get off of this. We all know
that that name ain't right. We all know it. Dictionary
dot com. Here's the definition of that term. A contemptuous
term used to refer to a North American Indian. There
it is, It's in the dictionary. What more evidence do
we need? And I am Look, here's the difference. This
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is the reason that Sambo's restaurant is out of business.
Route or change, change his name. This is the reason
you don't have some teams named after black racial slurs,
because African Americans have numbers in terms of the population
and enough political power power within popular culture to stand
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up and make a difference. Native Americans, because of the
way they've been annihilated in the past, don't necessarily have
the numbers or the political power. And that is why.
But that tells if you're only making the changes because
we have enough people or enough political power to force
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it or to make you uncomfortable, then your heart's not
in the right place. Then you still are racists even
if you make the changes. If you really are standing
against racism, you will stand against it for those that
don't have the power to make you change it, no doubt.
And always remember this, it's not about you. It's about
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the people that say they're offended. If somebody says, if
you don't, Chris, if I offend you and I didn't
mean it, and you say, Rob, you offended me, I apologize, right,
That's why I would do. And if I say, well,
I don't know why you're offended, No, No. If I
tell you I'm offended, that's all you need to know.
You don't have to agree with it or understand it.
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I'm telling you you offended me. So if you didn't
mean to offend me, you apologize if you don't. If
Native Americans have spoken, they've gone out Chris over the
years and brought in a couple of you know, there's
always somebody on a different you know, who says, oh,
I love it, I think it's good, and they go see,
there's a guy, there's a Native American. He's cool with it. No,
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that's not good enough. The National Congress of American Indians
represents five hundred tribes. Thank you. That's good enough, Chris.
That's a bit of feeling than some lone wolf who
they put on the air to act like that. He's
speaking for all Native Americans. And you see, look the
Radskins are they taking down? Well, they're getting rid of
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the former owner Sherman I think was his name. It
took the statue down. But the name has to go.
That's not enough. And I look, if the league won't
do it on its own ride, we're calling. We're joining
missus Fawn Sharp and calling on the players to take
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a stand. If you're really about your life, right, if
you're really about that life, you want Tom Brady and
Nick Bosa and you know, you know, all these other
white players to join in our fight, right, then, let's
join in the fight with the Native Americans. It can't
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be picking and choosing which one do you want? You
want everybody to be treated the same and equal or not,
because if you don't understand it, and the players, hello,
I want you guys, players, if you're listening or somebody
knows one, tell them to google what happened at Missouri
and how much power to players who make no money? Chris?
Have the coaches had their scholarship in their back pockets,
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and they stood up for what was right, and they
got the president of the university and the chancellor to
both resign within a week's time or whatever. It was
a couple of days. Yep. It's very emigant. Come on,
Like you said, it would be done within a week.
The change would be made within a week. And it
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however long it takes, which shouldn't be longed to get
rid of the uniforms or the helmets, whatever it is,
all that it could be done quickly. And all the
change your name is make a stand in Washington. Remember
when all the people were getting killed in Washington. So
they didn't want to name the team the Bullets anymore, Chris, yep,
and they just changed it to the Wizards, the older
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Poland was just like that, you know the connotation. Remember
they had a high murder rate and see, and he
was like, I just don't like that name, the Bullets
being associated with the team's name, and they changed it.
Everybody bought new jerseys and that was the end of it. Chris.
It was no big deal, right, It's not that complicated,
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It really isn't. And so I salute faun Sharp, the
president of NCAI, and I assume it's a woman. Maybe
I'm wrong. I don't know, but I salute this person.
And so the National Congress of American Indians has called
on players to make the Redskins change their name. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
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iHeart Radio app. We've got our man, sin Bad. That's right, Sindbad,
the great comedian and actor, coming up right now on
the Discover Car Celebrity Hotline. You can follow him on
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Twitter at Sindbad Bad, sind Bad Bad, so two bads
in there. He also has a podcast he does with
his son called Blurred b l e r D, which
is like a combination of black nerves. I gotta hear
this from him. But you know him from all the
great movies. He was in First Kid, Jingle, All the Way,
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et cetera, et cetera. We remember him, of course. We're
big sitcom fans here, so different, a different world he
was in that just goes way back and a great
guy and great comedian, Sinbad. Welcome to the eye couple. Man,
what's up? Man, what's up? My guys, what's up? It's
great to have you on. So so first tell us
about this pie cast blurred like black nerds, black black nerves,
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but you need to have because he's a black nerd.
But see but see man, now it's hip. Remember now
it's hip. When I was coming up, you got you
gotta beat down. You have to hide that. That was
closet in this brother, being a nerd was in the closet.
Being a black nerve was in the closet. Now, man,
you meet women, now you get jobs now right, they
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love it that around. You get to a start age
and you don't comb your hair and all that they
love right. Yeah, man, we just hit the nerves like
we're curious about everything. And remember black nerves a little
different because we still got a little hit. We got
the little hip side to us. We just don't know
how much we can tell you. We don't how much
check we could deal with. We don't know how many
comic books we can talk about you with. We don't
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know how much animal we can hit you with. Oh
our our our dj our engineers very much into anime.
He actually asked me to ask you this question. So
there's there is this myth, this legend that you were
start in the movie as a genie in a movie
called Shazam. But it actually never that's not true. But
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do you get that a lot? Do people always come
up to you because so many people claim they have
seen that movie? Do people come up to you and
say that a lot? Well, this is the deal. That
movie was done in the fourth dimension, and I was
living in the fourth dimension. So now that I'm back
here with regular people, it doesn't my man. I used
to listen to the music the fourth Oh, that's the
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fifth dimension. I'm sorry that people don't come back, don't
make it back? Well, say bad? What do you getting
serious for a moment? What do you think about all
that you see going on? Obviously you've been, you know,
in this country and seen a lot racially different, you know,
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generate every generation we seem to deal with this. But
does this one seem a little bit different? This one
is like this one is like the sixties when he
got fired, when they just we said done. Remember the sixties,
we said done was done and it did what there
was a knee jerk reaction. It has some laws fake integration,
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fake fake that, and then we realized things were almost
right back to what they were. It was more covert,
not over. They hid, they did the minimum literally or
this one that went on when you know what I
think about it, a so called twenty dollars kind of fit.
Bill struck a revolution the building. We still haven't seen
to this day that no one seen this in twenty
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It was so blatant. This man knew he was on camera.
He put his hand in his pocket and told the
other two cops are going can we do this? He
was trading them saying, yes, this is exactly what we do.
And it was kind of closet because now that we
know that the George worked with him and he got
him fired because of the way he was treating brothers
in the club. This was some payback for him. This
was some payback for him. So I hope you go
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to prison, and I hope we never see you again,
and I hope somebody puts hands on you. And that's
why I'm at that point now, No more compliance, no more.
Hey man, the where the good apples? If you're not
speaking up? They said, when when evil things happen and
good men say nothing? Evil wins. So I'm always now, yeah,
no's in bad. I've always said the only people worse
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than the people doing the bad stuff, or when good
people don't do anything or or jump in and and
and I think you're right. Most people just can't do it,
can't deal with it anymore, and have decided that it's
just not We're done with that. Absolutely. We were just
talking before you came on. Native Americans have issued a
statement they want the Washington to change its name in
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the NFL that they've had enough as well. They see
all the statues coming down and all the you know,
uh aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben and all Confederate flag
and they want, uh, they want to Skins to change
their name. What do you think? You know, it's funny,
you know it's funny. I think now they've been asked
for this for a while. I think for the first
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time they might get right now the world is so
in fire a lot of people who've been speaking and speaking,
and they should get it. Native Americans should have almost
anything they asked for. If you go to reservation and
share how they're treaty. They were eliminated, this country eliminated.
It's indigenous people. It's indigenous people. So yes, I think
they're gonna get that name eliminated. Finally, finally, it took.
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I said, when things catch on fire, whenever it talk
about the protests, and people saw about protesting, and they
went right to the riots and looting. I said, well,
the first looting was the Boston tea party. That's just straight.
Let's get this straight, y'all. Out of that, y'all that
we just learned from your playbooks. Absolutely right. Now, you
are a big Lebron fan, and you know the sport
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because you played in college basketball. So are you very
confident that the Lakers are gonna win this, uh, this championship.
Here's two things. I think Lebron and the Lakers and
and the NBA got cheated and watching them man having
a crazy season at his age, crazy sea, I mean,
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in same and in same season that we got cheated.
We got cheated to see how far Lebron could take us.
He was putting up stupid and bawling. Brother. Now this
time has come off. Even if my boys win it,
it's not the same, you know what I'm saying, It
just won't be the same. It just won't be the same.
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They think this will be I've heard some say this
will be bigger because of the layoff and COVID and
and you had to you know, keep yourself and all that.
But nay, I mean we know. Lebron stays and say,
we know if there's gonna get a few, some couldn't
get to court. So we're trying to figure it out.
Everybody's not gonna play remembers like you got avery. You
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gotta take care of us fun So you know which
I'm love at. Jr. Might be here. I'm loving that
because I've been waiting for my boy to come back.
I love him since twenty sixteen, though I mean I
haven't hit he't seen him hit the three since twenty sixteen.
He'd been but he's been working out since twenty sixteen.
Remember him and Lebron got that symbogy. They're probably be
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working out together. They got a thing the boys that
played in Cleveland with him. But when he remember, he
told New York they said they got when they got
rid of j R. And Lebron said, will take him?
Remember he said, will right take right until it was
Game one against in the finals when uh Jr. Didn't
remember the play at the end of the game, and
Lebron remember back, he didn't remember, he didn't realized he'd
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be ran out the clock when they had a chance
to win the game. I've never seen anything like that.
But remember that was a year. A lot was going
on with his life with his family, but his daughter.
There was a lot of that. There was a lot
going on that brother's life at that time, you know.
And he just he looked scattered. Even Lebron is like,
he just looked scattered. They don't. Yeah, yeah, I just
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I look at it. I have no worset work because
I can't get out. I have no words for it.
Because we know it's a small ballplayer. We know he's
the way he's played. I'm like this, it came out
of nowhere. Now you nowhere. You are from Jordan's generation.
Do you think Jordan or Lebron is the goal or
somebody else? This is it? Man. We always said, we've
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been talking for erection. If we look at numbers. No,
I was no Georgians, the boy, I said you no, man,
after we walked. No, there's nobody as intense as Mike.
Let's get this, Nobody as intense as Mike. Nobody mental
like but some of that would necessary Michael got. There's
some isms Michael. Michael got from isms, but it served
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him well. But Lebron dominating. Let's look at it again
from his rookiyear on. It takes five years. It didn't
take five years. It didn't take a Scottie. This brother
was putting teams on his back from day one. This
brother came back from Miami to a Cleveland team. And
I was like, I cried, but I'm with you man
when he went to when he went to Cleveland, I'll
go with you. I'm going with you. This might be
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the end. And I said, this brother always knew, he
looked at what he had because remember to think the
first time. This ain't the first time, because I had
guys like this before. I've had guys like this before.
But what I mean, you're telling me you think he's
better than Michael went. Now now people talk about that.
Are you saying that? Are you saying that? I'm saying this.
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I'm saying this for a man that loves both of them.
You can't go wrong with When you pick pick one,
pick one, sim sim bad pick you pick Can you
pick a favorite author? Sometimes? No great writers? So guy,
I love this. I love this writer. Can I pick
a favorite car? This one does this, but this one
does this. That's why he has two of them. I
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want you to pick, but no, I say this. But
here's the problem. Here's the problem. You want to be two.
He ain't got the whole group. You ain't got doctors.
They remember, I'm a probably got the abab. Watching doctor
Jane Commins, we came about Magic Johns, Hayfel, Magic Johns
out there, Hayes for cream Jaba. I hate Bill Russell.
Were all talking about who's the greatest, and then you
talk about rings. So I'm not gonna talk about Bill.
And Bill was a freaking niche only being six nine
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two when he did. I saw Will Chan. I said, guys,
and you're gonna talk about the greatest of all time, Well,
you gotta look at a big list. You gotta look
at a bigger list. You can't just look at two people.
Not for me. I'm shocked that people will sit there
and forget about and almost just respect magic and what
this young brother did in the game. You know. So
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I looked at doctor Jay betray guy. He was an
older man when he got here. But if you see
doctor Jay and then goes for different and he came.
I screamed like a little girl the first time I
sawn and I was even trying to feel in my
boys from the Bronx. Juty loud Wilson said, Joe, you
got to see him. I said, man, he in the Aba.
Man a ball was another bounce. He caught up with
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one hand, shunned around and threw down on Bobby Jones
and I jumped out my seat and screamed like a
little girl. From that day, I grew up my outfoot
like him. I pomed it in the back like him.
I tried to walk like him. To me, Man, dude,
I'm just saying, those who didn't see him in the
Aba have no clue. Now if you ask Jordan about them,
and as you ask the Bromo a bottom and you
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ask the magic a bottom to take, that's the one
I'm based on. No, that's based on that is that
is the truth. And that's not many bad dropping some knowledge.
We appreciate it, man, sir, Thanks about the man yea.
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f SR to listen live. Brandon Marshall was on the
her today saying something very interesting about your man Aaron Rodgers.
Here he is. They should have won two super Bowls
in the last five years. You to me, Aaron Rodgers
is my favorite quarterback in the NFL, But you wasted
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this guy's career. You got one super Bowl out of
Aaron Rodgers. Are you kidding me? It's too late. It's
too late, all right, Rob, go ahead. I mean, I
don't think Brendan Marshall's crazy um with his take on
what the Packers were doing and how they did their business. Chris,
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they also won with the way I remember they never
go after They never went after free agents, and they
always drafted at one point, which was unbelievable. Chris and
I thought it was because they were always in the mix.
But at one point their entire roster, they had only
one player on the team that Chris wasn't drafted by them.
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Who who does that? Right? Like every player was was
drafted by them. They had no outsiders. It was ancestralists.
Is that the right word? You know what I mean?
Like ancestralists. I don't think that's a word. You know
what I mean, ancestralss like I'm not but I know,
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but you know what I do. You know what I'm saying,
Like they they did go out and do that, and
they and and and especially when you talk about maybe
spending money and bringing in defensive players, especially because obviously
during his prime and his numbers Chris and MVPs and
his seasons that he's had, he was able to get
that franchise on the CUSP. There was the Seattle the
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onside kick, and obviously if they secured that, they probably
would have gone to the second Super Bowl. And of
course that the tight end mishandled it and Seattle got
the ball back and they wound up losing that game.
And then the other problem we talk about the defense
is uh, Aaron and five of Aaron's playoff losses um
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the defense is given up thirty eight or more points.
I mean, I don't know who can win in a
postseason when your defense is given up that amount of points.
I mean Tom Brady could do that. No, tom Brady
can't because he lost when they did that. Right, that's
the Philly game. So don't give me that he lost.
Now he can win, he won't He won't. No, I'm
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talking about the eight or more than any other quarterback.
I'll get somebody to look it up. How many teams
of one game when their defense gave up thirty eight
points and in the playoffs, and I guarantee you the
numbers low. But anyway, when you start to look at
all those things, his point is legit that they could
have been other things done. They were, they were close,
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they made the playoffs a lot, they won the division,
they were in NFC championship games. There were all kinds
of situations there. So it's not like that's why they
kept doing what they were doing because it seemed like, well,
it's working. We know we won the division again, we
made the playoffs ten out of eleven or twelve years
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in a row, and we've done this and we've done that.
But they couldn't finish the deal in those big playoff
games against better teams. And I think that's what really
when you take a look at his career as a whole,
that's what sunk him. Often times, I can't remember what
the number is chrism, but there's three games where he
tied the score and never got the ball back because
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the defense gave it up and those games where they lost,
so and it's not to make any excuses. His record
is what it is. But the bottom line is, could
they have done more for Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay? Absolutely? Look,
any objective observer would have to agree with Brandon Marshall,
and I think I believe from twenty ten to twenty
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sixteen they signed two free agents, two free agents and
six years. That's ridiculous and that was their modus operende
Rob And I think I don't know if you were
saying everything you wanted to say, but the way you
said it to me gives them a pass because I
think they were just happy being good. You know, they
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got the great fan base, they know the fans are
gonna be there, the fans are engaged because they're so good,
and I think they were happy with that. Hey, and
if we get a Super Bowl, great, I'm sure everybody
of course once won, but they were too content with
just being the playoff team, a contender every year, having
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arguably the best quarterback in the league, and they didn't
go out and expand on it and make the team better.
So that point, I think that's indisputable. My thing is this, though,
Aaron Rodgers is not blameless. So, yes, they should have
made the defense better. Yes they could have gotten even
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you know, more weapons at times, but he's still in
many cases did not deliver. And typically in the NFC
title games, he just He's won in three NNC in
NFC Championship games, and the game he won he didn't
play well. Do when they beat Chicago in twenty ten,
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he threw two interceptions and no touchdowns. And here's the thing.
He got the scores on the three losses in the
in the NFC Championship game. Yeah, one they lost. They
beat Chicago twenty eight twenty one, fourteen. Okay, they lost
the Seattle twenty eight twenty two in overtime, and so
you know that's twenty eight points. You gotta be able
to come now, Atlanta, that's the game. In twenty sixteen,
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they were just smashed forty four twenty one. But here's
so and I'll give you the Obviously the defense didn't
do anything, but Rogers didn't do anything either. In the
first half. They were down twenty four oh at halftime.
It was similar to what happened this year against San Francisco.
You look at the numbers at the end of the game.
You look at the final score thirty seven twenty, you
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can say, look at many points the defense gave up.
He did nothing in the when the game was in
the balance, he did nothing. Then in the second half,
same thing. It would happen against Atlanta. Second half, he
starts racking up the numbers, pad in the stats as
you you would say, and it makes the score look better,
it makes his stats look a little better, and then
you can blame it on the defense. But when you you,
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I know you watch those games. He didn't deliver in
the first half, and it's neither did the defense. But
Aaron didn't either. And here a thing, Rob this you
also played when when you fall behind in your defense
can't stop anybody just put you in a tougher spot.
That's not from the get go. All I'm saying is
he is not blameless, and we can blame, but he's
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also to blame. But if you were to look at
the two in the room, Chris, there's no way you
can look at the defense. It's given up thirty eight
or more points in five playoff losses and act as
if it has nothing that Aaron Rodgers has. More than
just said that. No, I'm saying the defense is not
an all time great defense. He is an all time
great quarterback. He has not looked robbed. This is a
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guy that has a more than a four to one
touchdown the interception ratio in his regular season career. In
in in four NFC title games, he is one in three.
He's thrown six touchdowns and seven picks. I mean, that
is totally against what Aaron Rodgers does. He's got a
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career passer rating of one h two point four. In
the four NFC title games, it's seventy eight. So again,
you're right, the defense has been whacked. The front office
didn't build around him the way they should have, but
he also did not deliver in those huge games on
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the defense. I think most of it is on the defense.
I don't think if if when you look at the
difference between what kind of defense tom Brady's had and
I'm just gonna use the comparison that tom Brady's always
been in the situation Chris where it's easy to play.
If you go look at some of those comebacks you're
always talking about tom Brady, the defense pitched to shut
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out in the second half. That's the difference Atlanta, wh
Tom Brady played terrible with twenty eight to three. He
was able to come back because the defense was was stinky.
In the second half. They didn't give up anything. Still
have to score the noo rob No, they didn't give
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up anything in it and the second half. I'm admitting
that Rogers's defense wasn't up to snuff. But you're gonna
sit here and exonerate what I just told you about
rogers performance. That's not objective. I'm telling you that if
if I have to pick one thing on why they
didn't win, I'm telling you pick one thing, Chris, is it?
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Is it Aaron Rodgers? What is it the defense? Well,
I'm asking you you hold on. I'm asking you if
it's Aaron Rodgers, because at the end of the day,
you have to stand up for your record and and
here's why, and you you do the same thing. If
it's not Aaron Rodgers, then why isn't he in the
goat conversation? Because you gotta win more than that, Chris
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are maybe no defense? Clint him in And wait a minute.
They were in Seattle and they and the tight end
buffs an onside kick to go to the super Bowl.
You're gonna blame that on Aaron Rodgers if Chris, you're
not even put him in the conversation. Put him in
the gold conversation and win more to be in the goal.
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All right, that's all I'm saying. But that, But you're
trying you about that game man and a mishandle of
an onside kick. That's one game, Rober, what you're talking
about at one Atlanta when the defense couldn't stop my
Matt Way, he couldn't score, but he couldn't rut the
socles around him ten steps that gazy he did won.
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Rodgers did nothing when the game was in the balance,
and then it was over. The Atlanta's playing prefit and
he racks up numbers, same thing, the same zac things
that what he did is that what he did when
he beat Pittsburgh to win the Super Bowl. You watch back,
you watch that. That's how how many did ask Dan Marie?
You know, ask Dan Marino for all the numbers he has?
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What about his Super Bowl? I'm asking you easing on MVPs, Chris.
He has the greatest quarterback rating in the history of
U see title games. I'm telling you what in the
NFL history he does, and his biggest achilles heel is
that he never had the defense. If he had a
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he would have woman afford super Bowl. Then put him
in the gold conversation. Back up your words, put your
money where your mouth is. You keep me ranting and
raving about how he's blameless. Put him in the goat.
I didn't say say it, but you're trying to make that.
I'm you're making this. So what I'm saying is about
started to overlook the defense and act like when you're
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in the whole. When you're in a hole and they
know you have to throw on every down, it's a
totally different football game. That's why you can't afford to
fall behind. It changes the way they play you defensively.
Come on, man, you know football better than that. Rob.
I started out my rant by saying any objective observer
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would agree with Brandon Marshall. I never said the defense
wasn't an issue. All I said is Rogers is not blameless,
and you act like those holes. He didn't have anything
to do with it. This game a few months ago
against San Francisco, same exact thing. He was to blame
largely for that hole. He turned the ball over and
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all that. Then in the second half, You're right, the
defense play differently. They backed up, they went prevent and
he racks up numbers. He is an all time great quarterback.
I'm not saying that. You act like I'm trying to
say he's a scrub. All I'm saying is he is
not blameless. That's it. And you want to argue that
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all day, I'm gonna argue because that he's not blameless.
I didn't say it wasn't blameless. But I just think
if you, if you really, if you're really honest, and
you take Aaron Rodgers and you give him that Patriots defense, Chris,
he would have won because he would have won. He
would have won more Super Bowls. To talk, fine, you
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want to live in fantasyland, go ahead, fantasy, I'm living
in reality. I'm debating what has happened. God Lee, if
Bill Russell was seven two, he might have had thirty
championship Come on, is that where we're going? And and
like I said, if this is how you feel, put
him in the gold conversation
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. The National Congress
of American Indians has called on players for the Washington
Redskins to speak out against the team name, and she
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is calling for them to get rid of it. Here
here's a little bit of the statement. I am calling
for members of the NFL franchise in Washington, d c.
To rise to the occasion and become heroes. All I
ask is that you state the unequivocal moral truth. Just
as you would never play for the Washington insert any
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other racial slur, you will no longer play for any
team branded with a racial slur against Native Americans as
long as that team name stands. Players of conscience should
conscience should sit at home rather than where the NFL
equivalent of the Confederate flag, that is NCAI President Fawn
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sharp and I say, Fawn, more power to you. Can
we get a fire for that? Throw it out, Alex,
that's fire from right. We don't have it. Look you
throw the fire, go ahead, all right? Straight fire there,
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We got fire. And what she said, Chris is right
on the money. Stop with all this. You know what's
going on in this country. And God bless Native Americans.
They see what's going on. They see that Uncle Benn
and Aunt Jemima out of work. They see that the
last Sambo's restaurant, Chris has been name has been changed. Right?
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Why why shouldn't they want to get it involved? They
stopped calling it? Put us at the Eskimo Pie no more?
Why not? It's time in NFL pastime. You're two hundred
and fifty million dollars. Is nice? You woke? Now you
really work and you get it. We all know that
that name. I don't even like saying it, Chris. I
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don't even like saying it anymore. And there are newspapers
and news organizations around this country that have banned the
use of it. When I wrote a column about a
week ago about this a dead spend, we wouldn't use it.
We wouldn't use the our skins. We wouldn't use it, Chris,
even in the copy, even in the headline. Enough already,
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and you know what, Chris, I'm gonna say this. This
thing can be done, done and over with in two seconds. Yep.
When the players say that they refuse to wear that
helmet and refuse to wear those uniforms, the NFL and
Daniel Schneider will have no choice, zero Because if the
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players revault and stand up for this and refuse to
wear that, there's no way you can have a team
in Washington, d C. They won't miss a game. And
the only way they'll miss a practice is because the
powers that people want to wait and see if they
mean business, and once they show they mean business, it'll
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be changed yesterday. And for those that are wondering, because
I brought this up last week, Robe when you were
on your staycation, that if this term is offensive to
Native Americans, then it must go. And if you're really
against racism, then it's not just racism against African Americans,
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it's racism against Native Americans as well, absolutely all people
of this land. We're gonna be inclusive, that's what this
country's all about. We're the only nation that has people
from everywhere. Chris, you go to Japan, it's ninety nine
percent Japanese go at most places where all people from
all over the world. Everybody should be welcome to the party.
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We need to get off of this. We all know
that that name ain't right. We all know it. Dictionary
dot com. Here's the definition of that term. A contemptuous
term used to refer to a North American Indian. There
it is, It's in the dictionary. What more evidence do
we need? And I am Look, here's the difference. This
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is the reason that Sambo's restaurant is out of business.
Route or change, change his name. This is the reason
you don't have some teams named after black racial slurs,
because African Americans have numbers in terms of the population
and enough political power power within popular culture to stand
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up and make a difference. Native Americans, because of the
way they've been annihilated in the past, don't necessarily have
the numbers or the political power. And that is why.
But that tells if you're only making the changes because
we have enough people or enough political power to force
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it or to make you uncomfortable, then your heart's not
in the right place. Then you still are racists even
if you make the changes. If you really are standing
against racism, you will stand against it for those that
don't have the power to make you change it, no doubt.
And always remember this, it's not about you. It's about
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the people that say they're offended. If somebody says, if
you don't, Chris, if I offend you and I didn't
mean it, and you say, Rob, you offended me, I apologize, right,
That's why I would do. And if I say, well,
I don't know why you're offended, No, No. If I
tell you I'm offended, that's all you need to know.
You don't have to agree with it or understand it.
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I'm telling you you offended me. So if you didn't
mean to offend me, you apologize if you don't. If
Native Americans have spoken, they've gone out Chris over the
years and brought in a couple of you know, there's
always somebody on a different you know, who says, oh,
I love it, I think it's good, and they go see,
there's a guy, there's a Native American. He's cool with it. No,
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that's not good enough. The National Congress of American Indians
represents five hundred tribes. Thank you. That's good enough, Chris.
That's a bit of feeling than some lone wolf who
they put on the air to act like that. He's
speaking for all Native Americans. And you see, look the
Radskins are they taking down? Well, they're getting rid of
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the former owner Sherman I think was his name. It
took the statue down. But the name has to go.
That's not enough. And I look, if the league won't
do it on its own ride, we're calling. We're joining
missus Fawn Sharp and calling on the players to take
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a stand. If you're really about your life, right, if
you're really about that life, you want Tom Brady and
Nick Bosa and you know, you know, all these other
white players to join in our fight, right, then, let's
join in the fight with the Native Americans. It can't
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be picking and choosing which one do you want? You
want everybody to be treated the same and equal or not,
because if you don't understand it, and the players, hello,
I want you guys, players, if you're listening or somebody
knows one, tell them to google what happened at Missouri
and how much power to players who make no money? Chris?
Have the coaches had their scholarship in their back pockets,
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and they stood up for what was right, and they
got the president of the university and the chancellor to
both resign within a week's time or whatever. It was
a couple of days. Yep. It's very emigant. Come on,
Like you said, it would be done within a week.
The change would be made within a week. And it
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however long it takes, which shouldn't be longed to get
rid of the uniforms or the helmets, whatever it is,
all that it could be done quickly. And all the
change your name is make a stand in Washington. Remember
when all the people were getting killed in Washington. So
they didn't want to name the team the Bullets anymore, Chris, yep,
and they just changed it to the Wizards, the older
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Poland was just like that, you know the connotation. Remember
they had a high murder rate and see, and he
was like, I just don't like that name, the Bullets
being associated with the team's name, and they changed it.
Everybody bought new jerseys and that was the end of it. Chris.
It was no big deal, right, It's not that complicated,
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It really isn't. And so I salute faun Sharp, the
president of NCAI, and I assume it's a woman. Maybe
I'm wrong. I don't know, but I salute this person.
And so the National Congress of American Indians has called
on players to make the Redskins change their name. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
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the great comedian and actor, coming up right now on
the Discover Car Celebrity Hotline. You can follow him on
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Twitter at Sindbad Bad, sind Bad Bad, so two bads
in there. He also has a podcast he does with
his son called Blurred b l e r D, which
is like a combination of black nerves. I gotta hear
this from him. But you know him from all the
great movies. He was in First Kid, Jingle, All the Way,
(10:39):
et cetera, et cetera. We remember him, of course. We're
big sitcom fans here, so different, a different world he
was in that just goes way back and a great
guy and great comedian, Sinbad. Welcome to the eye couple. Man,
what's up? Man, what's up? My guys, what's up? It's
great to have you on. So so first tell us
about this pie cast blurred like black nerds, black black nerves,
(11:04):
but you need to have because he's a black nerd.
But see but see man, now it's hip. Remember now
it's hip. When I was coming up, you got you
gotta beat down. You have to hide that. That was
closet in this brother, being a nerd was in the closet.
Being a black nerve was in the closet. Now, man,
you meet women, now you get jobs now right, they
(11:26):
love it that around. You get to a start age
and you don't comb your hair and all that they
love right. Yeah, man, we just hit the nerves like
we're curious about everything. And remember black nerves a little
different because we still got a little hit. We got
the little hip side to us. We just don't know
how much we can tell you. We don't how much
check we could deal with. We don't know how many
comic books we can talk about you with. We don't
(11:47):
know how much animal we can hit you with. Oh
our our our dj our engineers very much into anime.
He actually asked me to ask you this question. So
there's there is this myth, this legend that you were
start in the movie as a genie in a movie
called Shazam. But it actually never that's not true. But
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do you get that a lot? Do people always come
up to you because so many people claim they have
seen that movie? Do people come up to you and
say that a lot? Well, this is the deal. That
movie was done in the fourth dimension, and I was
living in the fourth dimension. So now that I'm back
here with regular people, it doesn't my man. I used
to listen to the music the fourth Oh, that's the
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fifth dimension. I'm sorry that people don't come back, don't
make it back? Well, say bad? What do you getting
serious for a moment? What do you think about all
that you see going on? Obviously you've been, you know,
in this country and seen a lot racially different, you know,
(12:53):
generate every generation we seem to deal with this. But
does this one seem a little bit different? This one
is like this one is like the sixties when he
got fired, when they just we said done. Remember the sixties,
we said done was done and it did what there
was a knee jerk reaction. It has some laws fake integration,
(13:15):
fake fake that, and then we realized things were almost
right back to what they were. It was more covert,
not over. They hid, they did the minimum literally or
this one that went on when you know what I
think about it, a so called twenty dollars kind of fit.
Bill struck a revolution the building. We still haven't seen
to this day that no one seen this in twenty
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It was so blatant. This man knew he was on camera.
He put his hand in his pocket and told the
other two cops are going can we do this? He
was trading them saying, yes, this is exactly what we do.
And it was kind of closet because now that we
know that the George worked with him and he got
him fired because of the way he was treating brothers
in the club. This was some payback for him. This
was some payback for him. So I hope you go
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to prison, and I hope we never see you again,
and I hope somebody puts hands on you. And that's
why I'm at that point now, No more compliance, no more.
Hey man, the where the good apples? If you're not
speaking up? They said, when when evil things happen and
good men say nothing? Evil wins. So I'm always now, yeah,
no's in bad. I've always said the only people worse
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than the people doing the bad stuff, or when good
people don't do anything or or jump in and and
and I think you're right. Most people just can't do it,
can't deal with it anymore, and have decided that it's
just not We're done with that. Absolutely. We were just
talking before you came on. Native Americans have issued a
statement they want the Washington to change its name in
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the NFL that they've had enough as well. They see
all the statues coming down and all the you know,
uh aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben and all Confederate flag
and they want, uh, they want to Skins to change
their name. What do you think? You know, it's funny,
you know it's funny. I think now they've been asked
for this for a while. I think for the first
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time they might get right now the world is so
in fire a lot of people who've been speaking and speaking,
and they should get it. Native Americans should have almost
anything they asked for. If you go to reservation and
share how they're treaty. They were eliminated, this country eliminated.
It's indigenous people. It's indigenous people. So yes, I think
they're gonna get that name eliminated. Finally, finally, it took.
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I said, when things catch on fire, whenever it talk
about the protests, and people saw about protesting, and they
went right to the riots and looting. I said, well,
the first looting was the Boston tea party. That's just straight.
Let's get this straight, y'all. Out of that, y'all that
we just learned from your playbooks. Absolutely right. Now, you
are a big Lebron fan, and you know the sport
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because you played in college basketball. So are you very
confident that the Lakers are gonna win this, uh, this championship.
Here's two things. I think Lebron and the Lakers and
and the NBA got cheated and watching them man having
a crazy season at his age, crazy sea, I mean,
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in same and in same season that we got cheated.
We got cheated to see how far Lebron could take us.
He was putting up stupid and bawling. Brother. Now this
time has come off. Even if my boys win it,
it's not the same, you know what I'm saying, It
just won't be the same. It just won't be the same.
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They think this will be I've heard some say this
will be bigger because of the layoff and COVID and
and you had to you know, keep yourself and all that.
But nay, I mean we know. Lebron stays and say,
we know if there's gonna get a few, some couldn't
get to court. So we're trying to figure it out.
Everybody's not gonna play remembers like you got avery. You
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gotta take care of us fun So you know which
I'm love at. Jr. Might be here. I'm loving that
because I've been waiting for my boy to come back.
I love him since twenty sixteen, though I mean I
haven't hit he't seen him hit the three since twenty sixteen.
He'd been but he's been working out since twenty sixteen.
Remember him and Lebron got that symbogy. They're probably be
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working out together. They got a thing the boys that
played in Cleveland with him. But when he remember, he
told New York they said they got when they got
rid of j R. And Lebron said, will take him?
Remember he said, will right take right until it was
Game one against in the finals when uh Jr. Didn't
remember the play at the end of the game, and
Lebron remember back, he didn't remember, he didn't realized he'd
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be ran out the clock when they had a chance
to win the game. I've never seen anything like that.
But remember that was a year. A lot was going
on with his life with his family, but his daughter.
There was a lot of that. There was a lot
going on that brother's life at that time, you know.
And he just he looked scattered. Even Lebron is like,
he just looked scattered. They don't. Yeah, yeah, I just
(17:57):
I look at it. I have no worset work because
I can't get out. I have no words for it.
Because we know it's a small ballplayer. We know he's
the way he's played. I'm like this, it came out
of nowhere. Now you nowhere. You are from Jordan's generation.
Do you think Jordan or Lebron is the goal or
somebody else? This is it? Man. We always said, we've
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been talking for erection. If we look at numbers. No,
I was no Georgians, the boy, I said you no, man,
after we walked. No, there's nobody as intense as Mike.
Let's get this, Nobody as intense as Mike. Nobody mental
like but some of that would necessary Michael got. There's
some isms Michael. Michael got from isms, but it served
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him well. But Lebron dominating. Let's look at it again
from his rookiyear on. It takes five years. It didn't
take five years. It didn't take a Scottie. This brother
was putting teams on his back from day one. This
brother came back from Miami to a Cleveland team. And
I was like, I cried, but I'm with you man
when he went to when he went to Cleveland, I'll
go with you. I'm going with you. This might be
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the end. And I said, this brother always knew, he
looked at what he had because remember to think the
first time. This ain't the first time, because I had
guys like this before. I've had guys like this before.
But what I mean, you're telling me you think he's
better than Michael went. Now now people talk about that.
Are you saying that? Are you saying that? I'm saying this.
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I'm saying this for a man that loves both of them.
You can't go wrong with When you pick pick one,
pick one, sim sim bad pick you pick Can you
pick a favorite author? Sometimes? No great writers? So guy,
I love this. I love this writer. Can I pick
a favorite car? This one does this, but this one
does this. That's why he has two of them. I
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want you to pick, but no, I say this. But
here's the problem. Here's the problem. You want to be two.
He ain't got the whole group. You ain't got doctors.
They remember, I'm a probably got the abab. Watching doctor
Jane Commins, we came about Magic Johns, Hayfel, Magic Johns
out there, Hayes for cream Jaba. I hate Bill Russell.
Were all talking about who's the greatest, and then you
talk about rings. So I'm not gonna talk about Bill.
And Bill was a freaking niche only being six nine
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two when he did. I saw Will Chan. I said, guys,
and you're gonna talk about the greatest of all time, Well,
you gotta look at a big list. You gotta look
at a bigger list. You can't just look at two people.
Not for me. I'm shocked that people will sit there
and forget about and almost just respect magic and what
this young brother did in the game. You know. So
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I looked at doctor Jay betray guy. He was an
older man when he got here. But if you see
doctor Jay and then goes for different and he came.
I screamed like a little girl the first time I
sawn and I was even trying to feel in my
boys from the Bronx. Juty loud Wilson said, Joe, you
got to see him. I said, man, he in the Aba.
Man a ball was another bounce. He caught up with
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one hand, shunned around and threw down on Bobby Jones
and I jumped out my seat and screamed like a
little girl. From that day, I grew up my outfoot
like him. I pomed it in the back like him.
I tried to walk like him. To me, Man, dude,
I'm just saying, those who didn't see him in the
Aba have no clue. Now if you ask Jordan about them,
and as you ask the Bromo a bottom and you
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ask the magic a bottom to take, that's the one
I'm based on. No, that's based on that is that
is the truth. And that's not many bad dropping some knowledge.
We appreciate it, man, sir, Thanks about the man yea.
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f SR to listen live. Brandon Marshall was on the
her today saying something very interesting about your man Aaron Rodgers.
Here he is. They should have won two super Bowls
in the last five years. You to me, Aaron Rodgers
is my favorite quarterback in the NFL, But you wasted
(21:52):
this guy's career. You got one super Bowl out of
Aaron Rodgers. Are you kidding me? It's too late. It's
too late, all right, Rob, go ahead. I mean, I
don't think Brendan Marshall's crazy um with his take on
what the Packers were doing and how they did their business. Chris,
(22:13):
they also won with the way I remember they never
go after They never went after free agents, and they
always drafted at one point, which was unbelievable. Chris and
I thought it was because they were always in the mix.
But at one point their entire roster, they had only
one player on the team that Chris wasn't drafted by them.
(22:35):
Who who does that? Right? Like every player was was
drafted by them. They had no outsiders. It was ancestralists.
Is that the right word? You know what I mean?
Like ancestralists. I don't think that's a word. You know
what I mean, ancestralss like I'm not but I know,
(22:57):
but you know what I do. You know what I'm saying,
Like they they did go out and do that, and
they and and and especially when you talk about maybe
spending money and bringing in defensive players, especially because obviously
during his prime and his numbers Chris and MVPs and
his seasons that he's had, he was able to get
that franchise on the CUSP. There was the Seattle the
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onside kick, and obviously if they secured that, they probably
would have gone to the second Super Bowl. And of
course that the tight end mishandled it and Seattle got
the ball back and they wound up losing that game.
And then the other problem we talk about the defense
is uh, Aaron and five of Aaron's playoff losses um
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the defense is given up thirty eight or more points.
I mean, I don't know who can win in a
postseason when your defense is given up that amount of points.
I mean Tom Brady could do that. No, tom Brady
can't because he lost when they did that. Right, that's
the Philly game. So don't give me that he lost.
Now he can win, he won't He won't. No, I'm
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talking about the eight or more than any other quarterback.
I'll get somebody to look it up. How many teams
of one game when their defense gave up thirty eight
points and in the playoffs, and I guarantee you the
numbers low. But anyway, when you start to look at
all those things, his point is legit that they could
have been other things done. They were, they were close,
(24:21):
they made the playoffs a lot, they won the division,
they were in NFC championship games. There were all kinds
of situations there. So it's not like that's why they
kept doing what they were doing because it seemed like, well,
it's working. We know we won the division again, we
made the playoffs ten out of eleven or twelve years
(24:42):
in a row, and we've done this and we've done that.
But they couldn't finish the deal in those big playoff
games against better teams. And I think that's what really
when you take a look at his career as a whole,
that's what sunk him. Often times, I can't remember what
the number is chrism, but there's three games where he
tied the score and never got the ball back because
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the defense gave it up and those games where they lost,
so and it's not to make any excuses. His record
is what it is. But the bottom line is, could
they have done more for Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay? Absolutely? Look,
any objective observer would have to agree with Brandon Marshall,
and I think I believe from twenty ten to twenty
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sixteen they signed two free agents, two free agents and
six years. That's ridiculous and that was their modus operende
Rob And I think I don't know if you were
saying everything you wanted to say, but the way you
said it to me gives them a pass because I
think they were just happy being good. You know, they
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got the great fan base, they know the fans are
gonna be there, the fans are engaged because they're so good,
and I think they were happy with that. Hey, and
if we get a Super Bowl, great, I'm sure everybody
of course once won, but they were too content with
just being the playoff team, a contender every year, having
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arguably the best quarterback in the league, and they didn't
go out and expand on it and make the team better.
So that point, I think that's indisputable. My thing is this, though,
Aaron Rodgers is not blameless. So, yes, they should have
made the defense better. Yes they could have gotten even
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you know, more weapons at times, but he's still in
many cases did not deliver. And typically in the NFC
title games, he just He's won in three NNC in
NFC Championship games, and the game he won he didn't
play well. Do when they beat Chicago in twenty ten,
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he threw two interceptions and no touchdowns. And here's the thing.
He got the scores on the three losses in the
in the NFC Championship game. Yeah, one they lost. They
beat Chicago twenty eight twenty one, fourteen. Okay, they lost
the Seattle twenty eight twenty two in overtime, and so
you know that's twenty eight points. You gotta be able
to come now, Atlanta, that's the game. In twenty sixteen,
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they were just smashed forty four twenty one. But here's
so and I'll give you the Obviously the defense didn't
do anything, but Rogers didn't do anything either. In the
first half. They were down twenty four oh at halftime.
It was similar to what happened this year against San Francisco.
You look at the numbers at the end of the game.
You look at the final score thirty seven twenty, you
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can say, look at many points the defense gave up.
He did nothing in the when the game was in
the balance, he did nothing. Then in the second half,
same thing. It would happen against Atlanta. Second half, he
starts racking up the numbers, pad in the stats as
you you would say, and it makes the score look better,
it makes his stats look a little better, and then
you can blame it on the defense. But when you you,
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I know you watch those games. He didn't deliver in
the first half, and it's neither did the defense. But
Aaron didn't either. And here a thing, Rob this you
also played when when you fall behind in your defense
can't stop anybody just put you in a tougher spot.
That's not from the get go. All I'm saying is
he is not blameless, and we can blame, but he's
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also to blame. But if you were to look at
the two in the room, Chris, there's no way you
can look at the defense. It's given up thirty eight
or more points in five playoff losses and act as
if it has nothing that Aaron Rodgers has. More than
just said that. No, I'm saying the defense is not
an all time great defense. He is an all time
great quarterback. He has not looked robbed. This is a
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guy that has a more than a four to one
touchdown the interception ratio in his regular season career. In
in in four NFC title games, he is one in three.
He's thrown six touchdowns and seven picks. I mean, that
is totally against what Aaron Rodgers does. He's got a
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career passer rating of one h two point four. In
the four NFC title games, it's seventy eight. So again,
you're right, the defense has been whacked. The front office
didn't build around him the way they should have, but
he also did not deliver in those huge games on
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the defense. I think most of it is on the defense.
I don't think if if when you look at the
difference between what kind of defense tom Brady's had and
I'm just gonna use the comparison that tom Brady's always
been in the situation Chris where it's easy to play.
If you go look at some of those comebacks you're
always talking about tom Brady, the defense pitched to shut
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out in the second half. That's the difference Atlanta, wh
Tom Brady played terrible with twenty eight to three. He
was able to come back because the defense was was stinky.
In the second half. They didn't give up anything. Still
have to score the noo rob No, they didn't give
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up anything in it and the second half. I'm admitting
that Rogers's defense wasn't up to snuff. But you're gonna
sit here and exonerate what I just told you about
rogers performance. That's not objective. I'm telling you that if
if I have to pick one thing on why they
didn't win, I'm telling you pick one thing, Chris, is it?
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Is it Aaron Rodgers? What is it the defense? Well,
I'm asking you you hold on. I'm asking you if
it's Aaron Rodgers, because at the end of the day,
you have to stand up for your record and and
here's why, and you you do the same thing. If
it's not Aaron Rodgers, then why isn't he in the
goat conversation? Because you gotta win more than that, Chris
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are maybe no defense? Clint him in And wait a minute.
They were in Seattle and they and the tight end
buffs an onside kick to go to the super Bowl.
You're gonna blame that on Aaron Rodgers if Chris, you're
not even put him in the conversation. Put him in
the gold conversation and win more to be in the goal.
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All right, that's all I'm saying. But that, But you're
trying you about that game man and a mishandle of
an onside kick. That's one game, Rober, what you're talking
about at one Atlanta when the defense couldn't stop my
Matt Way, he couldn't score, but he couldn't rut the
socles around him ten steps that gazy he did won.
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Rodgers did nothing when the game was in the balance,
and then it was over. The Atlanta's playing prefit and
he racks up numbers, same thing, the same zac things
that what he did is that what he did when
he beat Pittsburgh to win the Super Bowl. You watch back,
you watch that. That's how how many did ask Dan Marie?
You know, ask Dan Marino for all the numbers he has?
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What about his Super Bowl? I'm asking you easing on MVPs, Chris.
He has the greatest quarterback rating in the history of
U see title games. I'm telling you what in the
NFL history he does, and his biggest achilles heel is
that he never had the defense. If he had a
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he would have woman afford super Bowl. Then put him
in the gold conversation. Back up your words, put your
money where your mouth is. You keep me ranting and
raving about how he's blameless. Put him in the goat.
I didn't say say it, but you're trying to make that.
I'm you're making this. So what I'm saying is about
started to overlook the defense and act like when you're
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in the whole. When you're in a hole and they
know you have to throw on every down, it's a
totally different football game. That's why you can't afford to
fall behind. It changes the way they play you defensively.
Come on, man, you know football better than that. Rob.
I started out my rant by saying any objective observer
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would agree with Brandon Marshall. I never said the defense
wasn't an issue. All I said is Rogers is not blameless,
and you act like those holes. He didn't have anything
to do with it. This game a few months ago
against San Francisco, same exact thing. He was to blame
largely for that hole. He turned the ball over and
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all that. Then in the second half, You're right, the
defense play differently. They backed up, they went prevent and
he racks up numbers. He is an all time great quarterback.
I'm not saying that. You act like I'm trying to
say he's a scrub. All I'm saying is he is
not blameless. That's it. And you want to argue that
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all day, I'm gonna argue because that he's not blameless.
I didn't say it wasn't blameless. But I just think
if you, if you really, if you're really honest, and
you take Aaron Rodgers and you give him that Patriots defense, Chris,
he would have won because he would have won. He
would have won more Super Bowls. To talk, fine, you
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want to live in fantasyland, go ahead, fantasy, I'm living
in reality. I'm debating what has happened. God Lee, if
Bill Russell was seven two, he might have had thirty
championship Come on, is that where we're going? And and
like I said, if this is how you feel, put
him in the gold conversation
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