Dan Snyder Has Finally Seen The Light!

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So we got a great show for folks today, Rob
and I can't wait to get into it. How are you.
I'm doing great, Mazel. Talk to your daughter. You bought
a new car, a new car today. I saw on
Instamar a new car. Thank you put out the one thing.
You didn't want to make any bets for sneakers or
wings because all your money's going into a car. Going

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to take my money with all that bets. But now,
which daughter got the car? That was alexis? Uh, my
love and daughter is going to eventually be living in
New York, and you know she doesn't need a car.
She doesn't need a car, so she wanted a dog.
I mean, obviously the prices aren't comparable, but she wanted
a dog. So we got her dog. And that that's smart.

(02:40):
What would your daughter needed a car? Manhattan Market? They're
not just doing bets going to a parking parking and Chris,
you could get around the city on the subway and
the bus in New York. It's easy, I'm telling easy,
peasy so that's great. I do want to bring it
would be a hassle, actually have absolutely, I wouldn't. I

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wouldn't get a car in Manhattan. Can we put in
Isaac Ford minute? Chris real quick, Isaac Loewen Crown, how
you doing? Great? Helped me with the with the baseball
and now we had Bob Nightingale on this morning on
the Dan Patrick showed Jason Smith and I filling in

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and he said that they expected at least a hundred
players to test positive. And the number was what thirty one?
It was thirty one players and seven staff members. And
they came across nineteen different teams, So that means eleven
of the thirty teams didn't have anybody players or staff
positive at all. That is an unbelievable number because because

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given and how many, how many players were tested? What
was the number Major League Baseball was actually the Major
League Baseball was actually unclear about it because Major League
Baseball said this was one point two percent positive test
results out of nearly thirty two hundred samples not tests,
So that means that multiple individuals might have been tested

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more than once. Chris, are you shocked by that number?
The only because remember the NBA just did it and
they had sixteen out of three hundred and two or
something like that, right, but baseball has at least minimum
is eight hundred players, if you just you know what
I mean. Yeah, so that's a small had twice as
many positive tests and a little more than twice as

(04:29):
many players. So yeah, yeah, it's a little bit small,
but it's a good. My thing is this, I don't know,
because because you can make a case that it's better
for guys to have it now, you know what I'm saying,
and then you get over it in two weeks presumably,
and then you go ahead and play, whereas maybe more

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you know, I don't notice, but I wouldn't obviously it's
not the case, but maybe more guys will get it,
you know what I mean. I was just shocked. I
was just shocked by the number because you know what
Nightingale told us this morning, do you know what I mean? Right, So,
when I heard that number, I mean, that's he said,
over one hundred and we're talking about thirty somethings. Always. Well,
you saw Mike Trout saying that he's leary and and

(05:12):
a lot of guys he's talking to her Leary, and
I know in the NBA, Rob, a lot of guys
are Leary. Yeah, a lot of players are Leary. Man
Leary Like, don't want to do it, but they're they're
just going, you know, anybody, I'm not mad at all.
I think baseball you're not as close to people, which
is good, but it's still a chance. And well to

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your point, a friend of mine, they're doing Little League. Yeah,
they've been doing Little League. Yeah, because as you said,
they're not you know, you're not that close to each other,
so not on top of each other like football, which
is where we're gonna start today. That's already know, Chris.
Let's introduce the crew and then get into it. We
got DJ Alex Tyshon on the ones and the twos.

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This is, of course, is a funky flashback Friday, so
let's see if he can bring the noise we got.
Of course. I mean it seems like it's every few days.
Rob g is off, all right, That's just that's how
he is. He produced. Dan Patrick showed this morning with
me excuse, no excuse, I'm just saying I'm still you

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do Dan Patrick. Today Alex did the Herd. See, I
don't want to hear it. But I'm happy because we
got our man lead the lap and who does a
tremendous job in place and Rob g so we were
nonetheless never leave pinch it normally gets a hit. And
then you just heard our man Isaac Lowing Crown on

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the updates, so we're looking forward to that. So let's
get right into it. You mentioned it, Rob, NFL do
the honors I do. I mean, you know the story
of the Washington Post is already reporting, uh is it
the Washington Post or or Ian Rappaport that the name
change could could happen, Chris, before this season. We're in

(07:00):
July and you're telling me in September that Washington's NFL
team could change the name, the name that they have
fought for decades not to change. And you get a
couple of corporations and sponsors. Chris, we talked about this yesterday.
Whenever you start with the money right, whenever you say

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we're gonna take money back, you get people's attention and
things change overnight. But right after we left the show
last night, I got a text for my buddy, Darren Haynes,
who works in h Washington, d C. Sportscaster down there.
You know, Danren, I'm glad to see y'all buddies again.
I'm just gonna lead that alone. Yeah, that's my man.

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You're thinking of Darren Schneider. Oh, oh, you're right, Darren
used to work, Yes, yes, all right, but I'm just saying,
Darren Haynes, send me a thing about Nike dot com, Chris,
And they pulled all of Washington stuff off the website.
They're not gonna sell it, so right there. And then

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you had Pepsi, you had FedEx, you had all these
other companies, and you know, and you we tried to
tell but once you you know, once there's blood in
the water, and the other advertisers go, oh, they're not advertised.
We're pulling out miright too. You know what's gonna happen.
And then do we have Daniel Schneider as a comment, Chris,

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or a quote? Well no, but you said what was yeah, right,
it's quote a while ago. Would asked about it was
that he would never and he said put that in
capital letters. Uh, it would the name would never put
that in capital letters change under his watch. That was it.

(08:45):
He was defiant, no question about it. No, debate, no conversation.
That is how firm Daniel Snyder was, Chris. And here
we are now and we're talking about a name change
in the Normally it takes at least a year, right
with everything that would have to happen, and they're now

(09:08):
telling us that it can happen in three months. Here's
my thing. And look, obviously I agree with everything you said.
We're on the same page. You're guarding this and you
said you hit it on the head money. Dan Snyder
has not had an iota of a change of heart.

(09:28):
In fact, if anything robbed, he might be even angrier,
he might be even more adamant about not wanting to
change it. But you know what, he is going to
change it because of the bottom line, period the end.
And I am not Look, I don't know all the

(09:48):
ins and outs of what it takes to change your name,
but I gotta be honest. It shouldn't take that long.
It should not take that long. You can paint helmets
in two days, right, But if you can remember that
decal off. I know they always say it takes off.
Do you remember when Lebron wanted to change his number, Yeah, said,

(10:11):
but he had to wait I'm just saying normally that
this is social pressure. Oh, I guess this is Nike.
Was Nike was the company. I hear where you're coming from,
because Nike was the company telling Lebron we can't do
it yet, right, just a personal individual thing. This is
a whole racial movement. And look how long does it

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take to I don't even know if they have to
change the uniforms. You really just gotta change the helmet,
change the name and helmet that change the helmet and
change and the signage around the stadium and all that. Yeah, right,
but if all these look it's not gonna cost you
more money, then you're gonna lose if you don't, you know,

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And so you gonna money stuff? Are you? No question?
And here how about this? Rob uh? We didn't come
up with this, but it's out there as far as
the name changed, Like what what do people think is
a great name? And some have come up with red Tails,
and that, of course red Tails is the that was

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the nickname of the planes that were flown or were
those were the planes that were flown by the Tuskegee Airmen.
And if you're not hip to the Tuskegee Airmen, that
was an all black squadron of fighter and bomber pilots
who fought in World War Two and showed out, yes,
did tremendous work in World War Two. It would be

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appropriate to take a name that has been as a
racial slur and replace it with the name that honors
African Americans and people of color, and from the city
in the capital of the nation, right, and three of
the Tuskegee Airmen, three of the five actually we're from DC. Wow.

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So yeah, I mean, it just makes all the sense
in the world. I think it would be great. Washington
red tails everyone. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if it's not
that fine, but I think now knowing that this is
out there, knowing that that was the history with the
Tuskegee Airman, knowing the heck, let's let's keep it real.

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The NFL's history. They don't have a clean slate when
it comes to racism. Now I'm not just talking about now,
but even historically. Remember they banned African Americans. They had
black players in the twenties and then banned them for
like more than a decade. And so it would be
appropriate for a league that has made so much money

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and become so big off the backs of African Americans
to honor, you know, one of their teams with a
name that honors African Americans. So I think that'd be great. Now,
Chris and I, we are going to change it up today.
And we want Chris, and we don't want you to
be afraid with your opinion. Okay, we're not gonna attack you.

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We want your honest opinion. If you're not hit with
what's going on, you're upset mad that the name is
going to change. We want to hear from you, Chris, right,
but we want to hear from this and we're not
with the cancel culture. We're not doing that. We are
your views, we'll share ours. We'll let you speak. We
may disagree when you're done, but we're gonna give you

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a chance to speak. We want to hear from you. Please.
Those are the people we want to call up. If
you agree with this, we don't want to hear from
you today. Let's hear from the other side of people.
And I've heard of Chris. Oh, you're trying to erase history.
I grew up with that team. That's not right. Blah
blah blah, whatever your reason is. I want to hear
we want to hear from you, guys. That's what we

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Who out there disagrees with the y into the football

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team changing their nickname. Let's hear it. Rob, that's right,
and remember we're not here to judge you. You got
your opinion. We just want to hear and make a case.
So you can never say that the odd couple doesn't
want to hear everybody's opinion, because that's right, we really do.
All right, let's start with Robin California. You're on the
Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Rob, what you got, Rob, Chris?

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I don't agree with the name change. I grew up
on a reservation here in northern California, a small little
reservation near Mount Shasta, and so hearing these names being
kicked around that we need to change, you know, this name,
the redskins, and the logo and the way it looks,
I've always found that a little bit offensive. But are
you Native American? I am, indeed, my role numbers thirty

(15:45):
seven forty three, and I'm a Curuke tribal member. Okay,
so what do you say? Because look, Rob and I
aren't claiming to be experts on you know, Native American culture.
But what do you say to those Native Americans that
say it's a racial slurs it means dead skins, and
you know even in the dictionary, dictionary dot com it
says a racial you know, a derogatory name for Native Americans.

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So what do you say about that? And don't forget
the Patent Office, if you remember, canceled their patents on
it because if they said it was a racial slur,
in fact, that's true. And I'm not going to speak
for all the nation, but the Indigenous people. It's not
an acceptable term anymore. It's not an acceptable logo anymore.

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That logo is just derogatory. The term is red skin
is derogatory. And many of us, and I know within
the communities that I function in, and I function within
many many of the Native American communities because of my
personal service work that everybody sees that name that I
talk with as as a name that has long passed
its time. This should have been done years ago. Guys,

(16:53):
this is this name, the way it's being used, it's
in many ways. I liken it to the N word.
You know, it's just what you're saying it. But I
thought you were saying they should they shouldn't change it.
What I'm saying is, Chris, is I don't agree with
changing it to the red tails and honoring the Tuskegee. Okay,
so what would you want to change it? You got

(17:14):
to change it, you do want to change So with
the Washington senators or generals or something like the Native
American name. Yeah, that's that's what I think, Chris is,
let's explore if there's a Native American name, you know,
perhaps there's a name that is suitable for the Native
people to be as well. Yeah, thank you so much.

(17:37):
Thank thank you for calling it. Thanks show, thank you.
We appreciate that. Now, See, Chris, we got some enlightenment.
There's a guy grew up on a reservation. He's talking
to Native Americans and he said it. It's almost equivalent
to the end word to them. Yeah. I mean, there
you go, Rocking, Robin DC, you're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Rocking? What's up? My man?

(18:00):
Rob Parker? Yo, eat eating roll Man? I got a
cup of coffee in the sweet roll Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Just listen to that last car. I kind of agree,
but I don't agree with Redtails. I just don't like
the idea of a black man being a mascot in anyway,
especially with the experiments that went on the Tuskegee Airman.

(18:21):
I like the idea, but not the time for that.
I would like to see war hogs w A R
H O G S where the hogs. Baby, we made
own lines important. You knows the Hogs, I mean, we
know that that was a big part of the Washington team.
All right, thank you, Rock and Rob. Hey, guys, we're

(18:41):
asking you to call and people are agreeing Chris were
changing it, but they don't like they don't. It's not
about the red tails. That's not really what we want.
We're hoping that people will call in who totally disagree
with just changing Washington's name. Let's try Jake and Nashville.
You're the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jake, Hey,

(19:03):
what's up with guys? I'm thank you for letting me,
let me come in a little bit. Uh. I want
to get a little a little preface. Um white man,
uh by racial wife. Uh. I have black family members
on both sides of my family. I've got black anton uncles,
black cousins, right, Okay, So I get a great point

(19:24):
of view, and I don't understand why. And also I'm
a Marine Corps officer and I owe my life to
all authenticities. I've got Native American blacks, white, uh, Hispanics
all that. So anyways, I'll yeah, I got you, we
got you, Okay, okay, but let me so why I

(19:47):
don't understand why this world is so sensitive nowadays? And
where does it stop? Like where where do we do
we do we tear it down? The Washington Monument? Did
we change the name of our capital? Like why is
everyone in this world nowadays so sensitive? Like and it's
back to your point, and I know, I don't want
to start ramming on time. Like the name Redskins, it's

(20:09):
not and I'm I'm modern the Native American, but it's
not offensive, like it's it's a it's a it's an
Indian name. It's a football team of the word. Well, so, okay, sir,
So the general who called before me, I think two
collars ago can he said he compared to the the

(20:31):
any words horrible? Right, the N word is horrible. And
that police officer he put his net his kneeds on
the guy's neck is a piece of crap. But I've
got Native American friends. They don't think it's the N word.
And by the way, when the rest kids were good,
no one gave a crap. Right, well, no, look, we
we let him go too far. It's like and Saturday,

(20:57):
we all lady Chris, but you didn't even think anything. Don't.
All right, so tell me, tell me why that like
it's I mean, I don't understand here. Here's what I'll say,
because I do agree. I agree with you that our country.

(21:18):
Thanks for the Paul, and I think even Rob agrees.
It's become we have become too sensitive. There's every little
thing can offend you. Now, however, racism is a whole
different situation. And also and also Chris, we want to
you want to be inclusive to people, and that's not

(21:42):
what it's always been, whether I and Rob. It's racism
has been a part of American culture to the point
where many of us grew up, including blacks, right, not
even really thinking of it that way until you you
start studying history and you see, wow, no doubt, let's go.

(22:03):
You know, I want to. I want to get to
see we can squeeze in Douglas and Cleveland. Chris, you're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Douglas.
How you're doing Parker mister? Sorry? Yeah, how you good?
To have you? All all right? I just wanted to say,
it's it's an American way. The Washington Riskin is the
oldest franchises in the NFL history that Doug Wims win

(22:24):
the Super Bowl MVP and he got Dwight Haskins. I
don't believe no one should take his, uh, his team,
his name. I think not why just because because they
had two black quarterbacks you can hee and won the
Super Bowl. It's his team, it's his business. This is

(22:45):
being down business. It's his all right, all right, Douglas,
thank you, Brian and Missouri. Real quick on the couple.
Fox Sports. Rade, we can squeez him and Brian, what
do you got? Real quick, hey, guys, thank you, appreciate it,
just real quick. I know. Back in two thousand and sixteen,
ESTN even did a study on the Native American UH
with Native Americans asking if they taught the term redskin

(23:07):
was offensive to try to get the name changed back then,
and I think it was like nine out of ten
Native Americans did not find the term offensive. So again
to hop on, some of these guys were saying, we
are too sensitive and we're in a cancel culture. You
can link anything back in history to call it racist
if you really want to get offended by it. But
if nine out of ten Native Americans aren't finding it offensive,

(23:29):
and ESTN did the studies and they're you know, predominantly
left side. Well why why would we why would we
change it? Who were we offending? I guess is, did
you did you see did you see the statement by
the Native American Council like that head tribes the Nazi statement. Yeah,
they came out weeks ago. Yep, yeah, and they say,

(23:51):
so you look, I don't know, I'm not. It's the
National Congress of American Indians, five hundred tribes they represent,
they need to change. We just had a Native American
on who said it's offensive. I look, obviously we can't.
We're trying to do a unique thing in this country,
which is change it on the fly. The most country, much,

(24:13):
most countries and cultures change because an enemy comes from without,
right from the outside, and takes over and everything. And
it's got to be a war, you know what I mean,
when somebody wins and somebody rises. So we're trying to
do it with a whole peaceful way, and so it
is gonna be uncomfortable, but it is necessary if we're

(24:35):
all gonna truly truly get along. Because we've been working
for whites. It's a massive black people. Robbie hadn't worked
for it. I can't wait to David and Native Americans too. Yeah,
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(24:57):
app What's Happening? Tell you guys doing and we're great
And people don't know he's one of the best guys
in the room. Man, We've known him for a hundred
years and happy for all his success and changes coming
in DC. Yes, the get what what do you think
of this whole turnaround? I mean, it's happening right now.

(25:18):
I don't think Dan Schneider has a choice, and it
could happen before this season. Some of the reports are Yeah,
I mean I don't see how you could walk this
one back and start the next season with the same name. Um,
it's gonna be very difficult, you know, if you think
about it. I mean, these changes are happening so fast
in the sports world and in society, um, that it's

(25:43):
going to be very difficult for the NFL or for
the team to kind of slow walk this over the
next two months and say we can't come to a
resolution when NASCAR literally in forty eight hours shack right here, right,
that's a great point point, you know. So, um, you know,
other leagues and other teams in the state of Mississippi,

(26:04):
Fads for another, you know, have made very quick decisions.
I can't see how you know this this particular private
business can drag its feet and not make these changes
before the start of season. And keep in mind, the
other thing, guys, is that you know, we have no
idea if there's even gonna be fans in the stands
next year for home games in the NFL. So if

(26:28):
you were ever going to kind of you know, open
off Broadway to lack of a better term, with a
change like this, what better time to do it than
in a season where you may not have that many
fans who are going to be upset and complaining about
it at the games. And then by the time the
next year rolls around, Hey, that's their name. Get used

(26:48):
to get on the train and get off, you know, right.
So I think I think that there's a there's an
advantage action to the team to getting this over with
this year. Now, d D You're you're a DC native
and the h what's the vibe down there, because you
we've heard we've been talking about this forever, but you
heard the mayor said that they can't build the stadium

(27:10):
uh in the DC area, you know, in the city's limits. Uh.
And then of course when the sponsors started talking about
taking money away and not U and then the other
part was Nike taking them off their website, off Nike
dot com. What was it was? It? Was it just
the financial pressure? Was it just the times that we're

(27:31):
in as well? Or a combination because Daniel Schneider was
the guy who said never under his watch, and you
remember he said in capital letters, right never right? Yeah.
I just think again, I think the times that we're
in right now, it just you just can't be on
the wrong side of history. It's just, you know, how

(27:51):
could you? And you know, Rob River, the head coach,
came out very strongly in support the Black Lives Matter.
The team, you know, was doing all these things, they
announced all these initiatives, and people were like, how can
you say that when you got the name that's offensive.
You can't, you know, it's not possible for you to
have this position. And so I just think that it

(28:15):
got very difficult to continue to kind of put your
head in the sand. And then when Rivera on Monday,
what went on our interview with the Chicago radio station.
I guess the guys he knew from when you play
with the Bears, and they asked them, you know, which
I thought was a very you know, I'll be this

(28:35):
question to ask what do you think about the name change?
And it literally said that's a discussion for another day.
And everybody just went what you know, you know? And
that's why I wrote the column yesterday in the Athletics saying,
wait a minute, you've been here for six months and
you that's the answer you have? You know, it's not

(28:59):
it's not. I'm like, it's not like the owner here
is Jerry Jones, and there was his own radio show
and talks after every practice, in every game. And even
though we haven't heard from him in about a month
or so, from Jerry, you know, the owner here is
is radio silence. We never hear from him. He never
gives interviews. That might have been the last interviewing game

(29:20):
was the one USA today when you're talking about the
name of the team in twenty fourteen. And also, I mean,
this guy does not talk and so there's no GM.
They fired the GM. They gave Ram Rivera all the juice,
all the keys. It's your show. You're running things around here, okay,
big boy, you running things that you have to have
an opinion on this? Well, I don't know, Come on,

(29:43):
you gotta have an opinion and anything. Guys, I might
not even like his opinion, but you gotta have one,
right right right da Now? Most people obviously associate you
with the NBA. UM, I'm hearing that there's a significant
number of players who really don't and that are owing
to Orlando that really their heart's not in this. They're hesitant,

(30:05):
they're worried. Um, they're kind of hoping. Maybe there's too
many COVID tests. I mean, are you hearing similar things?
And also how do you think? You know? Do you?
Are you? How convinced are you that they're actually going
to start playing? You know I've heard similar Now. The
problem is you don't know how many is it? Is it?
You know? You know what I mean? You don't know.

(30:28):
So that's what what all of us have been trying
to find out is exactly how many people are we
talking about here? Um? But there are certainly there's certainly
a number of players that are really not feeling this arrangement.
I mean, you just have to look at the daily
numbers coming out of Florida, and there was ten thousand
new cases yesterday, you know, and in Orange County, which

(30:49):
is or Orlando, is is one of the epicenters of
this thing in the state. Um So, you know, we
had Sup on my podcast yesterday and you know, he was,
you know, he was talking what we're all talking about,
which is that, you know, the bubble itself might be okay.
You might be okay in the bubble itself. The problem

(31:10):
is you're gonna have people coming and then out of
the bubble who have to go home to their to
their homes in the Orlando, which is where the which
is where the virus is spreading like wildfire. So even
their best intentions might wind up with them, you know,
testing positive, and you don't know necessarily that they're going
to test positive immediately, and you also have the possibility

(31:32):
of false negative and that sort of thing. So it's
just gonna be they're gonna what doctor group to said
to me was they're gonna have to be perfect for
us to work. And if and if and if they
are perfect. It could be very good, but they're gonna
have to be perfect. Wow, Wow, what did you if
Dwight Howard still has not committed if he if he

(31:55):
doesn't play, do you think the Lakers? I mean, that
would be two of their roleation guys. Now can they
overcome that? I mean, obviously anything can happen, but you know, realistically,
how how I don't know who you have favored? Do
you have them favorite? Or the Bucks or the Clippers?
Come kind I kind of have a Bucks Clippers vibe
to me just because I'm not you know, you just

(32:18):
wonder what there is. I mean, there's certainly the losing
losing day, you know, the rotation is diminished. But I
mean Ad could play center, you know, I mean it's
not what he wants to do, but he can play
center and he'll he'll be fine. And you're gonna play
those guys forty minutes in the playoffs anyway, So I
think they'll be okay in that regard without the why

(32:38):
he certainly has played well for him this year and
would help would help them. Um, but I think they'd
be okay. I think, you know, I'll be very surprised
if it's anybody other than you know, La La in
the in the conference final. Um, so you know, I
think that they'll they'll still be okay. But I have
always all seasons thought Clippers and Bucks, just because I

(33:02):
thought the Clippers would be really good defensively, and when
they're healthy they have been. And I thought Milwaukee was
just the best team and their defense has just been
unbelievable this year. So right, UM, I always go with
defense in the playoffs, guys, and they are to me
the two best defensive teams. That's David Aldridge, the Hall
of Famer, Great stuff, Da, We appreciate man, have a

(33:25):
good fourth of July. We can know it's different this
time around than joy. Yeah, please stay safe out there, fellers,
and furth to you guys too. All right, A man peace.
That's David Aldridge, editor in chief the Athletic in Washington,
d C. All right, we're gonna throw it out to
you again. We know some guys didn't get a chance
to win in rob on this this question with the

(33:46):
Washington football name. We want to hear from you. Do
you disagree? We want to hear why not with this
name name change? Right, But just the idea of a
name chance. Yeah, yeah, we want to hear from you.
Will give you a chance to give your view eight
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Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. How do you
feel about this name change just coming in Washington's NFL team?

(34:35):
Let's get to it right, All right, let's go to
Matt in DC. You're on the Odd Couple Fox Sports Radio.
Why you're against name change? Matt Gentleman Lover Show. Thanks
for having me on. Thank you. You know, language evolves, right,
you know, however, many years ago, torque was not in

(34:56):
the dictionary. For example, U in the case of Redskins,
I've been I'm fifty one years old, I've been a
Redskins fan all my life, and there I feel very
comfortable saying, even with everything that's going on, that it
never had anything to do with race. You know, in
a negative sense. All right, I always felt and I

(35:17):
can certainly he believe me. I certainly understand the just
the obviousness of the fact that it is a racial term.
It has negative connotations, you know from our you know,
from history and all that kind of thing. But in
terms of Redskins fans, we were never engaged in any
kind of negative feeling, you know, towards Native Americans in

(35:39):
regards to the use of that mascot and nickname. And
I sort of want to tie it into um, you know,
the bad word, the N word. Now, you know that word,
I think we can all agree is terrible. It's the worst. However,
you know what percentage of times that it is used

(36:02):
in current times is it in a negative fashion? I mean,
the N word is used extensively in many communities as
a as a as a positive term. Are a familiar,
friendly term, you know what I mean. But but the
difference is, and you know this, and a lot of
people don't like it to be used at all, Matt,

(36:22):
I get your point, But oftentimes it's used in a
derogatory way. When when used and if people who are
called that say that they're offended by it, just like
the Native Americans with the R word. If you want
to say Chris, then you've got to respect that. That's
really what it's about. If if I tell you I'm offended,

(36:45):
and you don't mean to offend me, then wouldn't you
just apologize? The people in position of power rarely are offended, right?
I mean when this goes all the way back to slavery,
when you had whites who said the blacks are fine,
they're happy, and slavery. They look at him, they're singing,
they're joyous. Here Ryan, I'm putting this on you, Matt,
but I just I don't think it's up to us,

(37:07):
including myself around it's not as non Native Americans. It's
not right. They say that they don't like it. I'm
with them. I get it. Thanks for the call. Let's
get to Miguel in Texas. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports rating. Miguel. What's up? How you doing, ma,
I'm not first time for Colors so well. I appreciate
thank you for calling in. Yeah, you guys make my

(37:30):
trips whenever I truble because I do work in the
in the entertainment industry, which I'm shut down right now,
but I don't like the name changes. I just don't
like it when when a small group of people say
that I don't like anything. You know, when is that
power are gonna stop? They're just gonna get started. Um.
You know, I just think that like this John Wayne

(37:53):
cot he said, I don't know what so many years
ago and whatever. You know, why do if I relate
John Wayne with the Cowboys? You know what can't here? Cowboy?
You know what if I start some movement, I said,
you know what, I don't like the Cowboards because I
related to John Wayne. You know, let's just start changing
their name of the Cowboys because they offense me. I
think that people need to learn how to how do
not get offended. And you know how many things out

(38:15):
there are there. It's all offensive to people of color, right,
you know, even even in the old days, Chris, let
them offensive things are there the white even in the
old days. Do you remember in the seventies with the
sitcom they would use the N word Chris, and then
use Honckey as an equivalent and and a honey. White

(38:36):
people didn't most people didn't even know what that was.
And you know what it was, Chris. When white guys
used to come into black neighborhoods for drugs and women.
They used to blow their horn honk, and they would
say honk their horns and they would say, the honckeys
are outside. It had no I'm serious. That's where that
term comes from. It in a derogatory term. But they

(39:00):
used it right, and it was I mean, look, if
you go back to the seventies, the in word was
used on Nashville. Muhammad Ali said it on in interviews
with white reporters. He said it, you know, so it was.
It was out there in the seventies. I Couple Keep
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So that's coming up shortly. But we're expecting a fun
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(40:22):
name for himself out there in the broadcasting world, now,
Kendrick Perkins. He says what he feels. He don't hold back,
and it has caused some controversy, but there's nothing wrong
with that. So we're waiting for him to join us.
And before we get KP, Rob, let's let's go to

(40:44):
the NBA. And now you're starting to hear a couple players.
I'm not gonna act like it's a trend, but first
it was Austin Rivers. Now it's Yannis ont Dakumpo, the
likely MVP of the NBA, saying that there should indeed
be an asterix by the title this year, but it

(41:05):
should be a good asterix, a positive asterix, because this
championship will be the hardest one to win of them all.
I know you don't agree with the asterix, and neither
do I. But where are you arrived on how difficult
this championship is going to be in comparison to a

(41:26):
typical year. I just think it's different for everybody, not
just one team or one situation. It's just it is
what it is. It's the world we live in, Chris.
Is how we work every day? Right. We could sit
around and go, oh, I don't want to do a
radio show for my house every day for four months.
I want to you know what I mean, Like you
can make an excuse. I think we've done some of

(41:47):
the best radio over the last four months with great
Great that's a great point, because you're right, I mean,
is it harder. It's harder the house every day and
there's no sports, right yeah. But we're not sitting here saying, hey,
we can't do it. Oh this is this is just
we're this is incredible what we're doing. Now. You go

(42:08):
to work, you push the clock and you do your best. Yes,
and that and that's why I'm just I've never been
with the asteris everybody has the same chance. You know,
unless you're telling me that, um, all the star players
for the sixteen playoff teams get the coronavirus Chris and

(42:29):
Lebron James doesn't and he wins the title. If that's
if that's a scenario on you and you want to
balk at the championship. I'm just saying then I could
I could see you would have a point to balk
at that if that's how it played out. But other
than that, I don't believe in that. I just when
when all this stuff Asterius and all that, No, this
is what we will go back and people will talk

(42:51):
about how the year twenty twenty and what went on Chris,
and there'll be a baseball champion. The Dodgers haven't won
a championship since nineteen eighty eight. You think the people
in LA aren't going to recognize a championship of the
just one right about that? They love the love it? Yeah,
I M look, I get where the players are coming

(43:12):
from and that whoever wins it presumably, I mean, maybe
it won't work out this way, but it's it would
seem that a guy that kept him or the team
I should say that really kept itself in shape during
the you know, during the shutdown, A team that was
really getting it in and and going outside and running

(43:35):
and hitting the weights wherever they could and getting up
shots wherever they could, it would seem like a team
like that would have an advantage. It would seem like
a team that can come through all of this, the pandemic,
the being in the bubble, not seeing your family, all

(43:57):
of that, you know, getting not getting two bulls down
there with nothing to do, or you're getting tired of
the same old stuff in the bubble. Yeah, you're gonna
have to be mentally tough to get through that. So
I get it, like it'll it will be a nice
achievement for whoever comes through this. But the thing is this,
rob everybody's under the same circumstances. Lebron doesn't have obstacles

(44:20):
that Yannis doesn't have, and Yannis doesn't have something in
his way that Kauai doesn't have. So I can't see
an asterisk because they're all playing under the same rules.
And so you know, and I could also argue this
maybe like obviously Lebron's I assume he's got a court

(44:43):
in his house and a nice weight room in his house.
You could some people could say, well, if he wins,
he had an advantage because some guys don't even have
a court, Some guys don't even have a hoop in
their driveway. And you know, the Lakers players had a gym,
you know that they could go work out that. So
I just think asterix talk rob positively or negatively, is

(45:07):
a slippery slope. And this championship will be legitimate. You're
you're you're right. I mean, if all the superstars get hurt, right,
then then you can make a right. Yeah, I mean
we even if we don't, we won't put an asterix
of right, but we'll look at it. Lebron won, but
all the stars were sick and Lebron had a cakewalk,

(45:27):
you know what I mean, or something like that. And
the thing is, and the reason I don't put asterix
on things is partially rob because if we really go
back and look at championships, there are a lot of
them where there would be an injury to a superstar.
You know, in the Pistons first championship over the Lakers,
Magic only played seventy five minutes in the whole series.

(45:49):
You know, remember that in the early seventies when Kareem
won his first ring in Milwaukee, that was Oscar's only ring.
When Wilt won his second ring Jerry West's only ring
in seventy two, the ABA had half of the best
players in the world. They weren't even in the NBA.
You know what I mean, So do we? I mean,
if we go back, we can really dissect every championship.

(46:12):
Not all of them would would have some strange circumstances.
We talked about it last year's with Toronto with KD
and Clay being injured, Golden State's first year with Kyrie
and Love being injured. I mean, if you start putting
Asterix on everything, you just drive yourself crazy. So I'm
with you in that every championship is legitimate and I

(46:32):
don't want to hear any Asteris talk. Yeah, I'm not
with that. I think that it's just to cop out.
I don't know why people get into that conversation. It
is what it is. We're in a pandemic. We gotta
make do and just go out there. Everybody who's gonna
go out there and play Chris and you gotta play

(46:54):
with whoever you have, right, that's your team. You could
have been an injury, it could be something else. It
mean teams that have had injuries having won, or somebody
who hasn't been around. It's not like it's automatically you're eliminated.
And what happens if you do win and maybe you're
down a player too, and we'll even save him more
about how great you are. So yeah, yeah, I think

(47:16):
we're gonna have to look at the virus like an injury. Unfortunately,
and you're right, if it gets to be too many stars,
it's gonna take away from it. But I think that's
the fair way to do it. If if Kauai comes
down with COVID during the series with the Lakers, which
would be tragic for all of us, I think you

(47:39):
just gotta look at it like an injury, like oh,
like he would have sprained his ankle or you know,
injured the knee where he couldn't play. I doubt people
will look at it like that. I think people will
use it to go against whoever wins. But I think
that's the fair way to do it. All Right, we
got our man, Kendrick Perkins on the line. Kendrick, what

(47:59):
is up? Brother? What's happening? That going? My two partners
right there, Rob and Seepee. What's happened? Great? Hey, we
are we are grateful to have you or and brother.
Keep up the great work. You're doing a tremendous job.
Even though you are you're at the other place, you
still do a great job. Man. You know, we all
support each other. Man. You know I support y'all. Man.

(48:21):
I take out y'all. I appreciate y'all. Man, y'all truly
inspiration man. The health of the job that y'all been
doing and continue to do. You know I took up
to it. Thank you, Kay Pete. Now let me ask
you this, where would you be if you were still
playing on this bubble? Because I've heard and you probably
I'm sure you talked to more players than I do,
but I still heard that there's a lot of players

(48:43):
that really aren't with this. They're going down. I'm talking
about ones that are going to Orlando that they're really
not feeling it. They're hesitant, they're concerned, but they're still
going What are you hearing? And where would you be
as a player? I mean, for me, everybody I'm talking to,
they're ready to who me personally. I'm listen, I'm not

(49:04):
I'm actually when it's the flight leading, I'm not hesitating
to go down to a billion dollar bubble. I mean that, listen,
that might be the safetest place in America. One of
the safest places. Might be safer than being in your
own home when you think about it, no one, no
where in America right now you're getting tested daily on
your own with twenty four hours super super surveillance, supervision

(49:26):
and stuff like that. Well, I mean, like the NBA
has a billion dollar business. The only concern I would
have was actually leaving my family to deal with the
outside world, you know. So I'm like, you know, I
don't see, I don't. I feel I could kind of
understand what guys are coming from, but I really don't.
I'm like this, and I'm pretty sure Adam Silver has

(49:46):
crossed the teas and dot the How is the best
way possible? Like, you know, this is a billion dollar business,
no doubt. How about speaking of Adam Silver, you're talking
about getting into the bubble and whatnot. Is it a
bad look for the commissioner that he's not gonna stay,
gonna dip in and dip out. Does the commissioner need

(50:08):
to be there with all the players are, you know,
putting their health and their situations on the line in
order to continue the NBA season. What do you make
of that? I mean, to me, with Adam Silver, I
wouldn't care if he was going in and out. He's
the best commissioner in sports and ever since he's stepped
footing into this role, since day one, he haven't steal

(50:30):
us wrong. So at the end of the day, you know,
you know what I think about it. We haven't in
my seventeen years of being around the NBA, right, I've
never seen the players Association in the NBA work hand
in hand the way that they did. And you know,
it wasn't like it was just the NBA and the
owners and Adam Silver saying, oh, we're going to play

(50:51):
and make the final call. No, they were in communications
with Chris Paul and Michelle Roberts and other players, and
you know, they gave them the option shouldn't to speak
only if they wanted to play, and it was a
unanimous vote. So he did a great job with communicating
it and and feeding off the players, and I think
that was great. So I wouldn't be mad at Adam

(51:13):
Silvil for going in and out the bubble, like he
don't have to stay in the bubble. You know, I'm
pretty sure you know if he tests positive, he won't
be around or whatever the case may be. But he
just did a great job with communicating with the Players Association,
and I've never witnessed that in my seventeen years of
being around the NBA. Kendrick, a lot of people they're
familiar with with the issues you had with your former

(51:36):
teammate and your friend Kevin durant Um recently. Obviously it
was emotional. Um, have you guys talked, if you guys
made up or or you know, had any communications since
this whole thing. No, we haven't, And you know, you
know what, you know, what TV is is not on me, man,
because I did my part. I've done my part. I've

(51:58):
apologized to ad on National TV, even though I felt like,
you know, I played a part, but I didn't really
do nothing wrong during the situation when I was giving
Russell Westbrook his praise for going back to old Casey,
and then the second time around when I went on
there and talked about Kyrie Irvin and said I wouldn't
follow his league, which I think a lot of us wouldn't.

(52:21):
Katie came out and called me a sellout, probably the
worst thing that you could call an African American man
in my opinion. And I still took the high road,
like you know, a part of me. And that's what
people don't understand. I was emotional. Yeah that's my brother,
But I was emotional because I had to put my
pride aside and go on ESDN first take and take

(52:43):
the high road. That wasn't eat for someone to call
you a sellout and you didn't do nothing. It took
them and you didn't turn your back to me, you know.
And sellout is turning your back on your community and
turning your back on the coaching, on your coaching. I
didn't do that. So you know, for me to take
the high road, I've done everything that I needed to
do and I'm not doing nothing more, nothing more, none less.

(53:06):
So I'm cool while I'm at it. You know, I
could go to sleep at night. My soul is cleansed,
you know, you know, And not to be long winded,
but you know, it's crazy because I had to reevaluate
myself and I sat down and I thought about it.
I said, you know what, out of all my NBA brothers,
former current, whether they're on coaching staffs or g or

(53:29):
whether they GMS or at front office jobs. I'm still
cool with every last one of them. I could pick
up the phone and talk to every last one of them.
I can go to dinner and I ain't out with
every last one of them. The only person that has
a problem with me is KAD. So if I get
into with ten people, so later it's not them ten

(53:49):
people that got a problem. I'm the one that got
a problem. So I'm looking at it. I had to.
I looked at it like it's not me, No, it's
Kevin the rent with the problem. He the one needs
to cleanse this soul? Is everybody else? Still love big person.
That's that's well said. Person. And let me let me
ask you when you got into this job because a
lot of players, you know, we talked to you when

(54:12):
you were really getting in there's it ain't as easy
because people don't want to hear anything about themselves or
excuse me, KP. You know, like the truth, a lot
of people just don't want to hear it, even if
it's coming from somebody like you. Let alone sportswriters who
never played on that level. But a guy like you

(54:32):
who were in the trenches and who played the game,
you know what I mean at a high level. And
you know, you know what's crazy is that even when
I was playing right CB Rob, y'all didn't say things
about me far as my game wise. But that's h'all job.
Y'all didn't criticize me, probably if I had a bad game,
and y'all also was the first to get me my flowers,

(54:54):
and I never personal when y'all see me around, it
was still the same mold. How y'all, what's up? How
are you doing? Because that's your job. Your job is
to talk about what's going on in the basketball world. Now,
when it goes down to, uh, you know, bringing up
anybody in their personal life, how I go about handling
it is I contact my brothers. So if I got

(55:15):
to address the situation the next day about something that's
happened to one of the NBA guys that on a
personal level, I contact them and have a conversation with them.
You know. But when it comes down to me having
to talk about whether or not Lebron played good or
he played bad, or did us you know, trigg off

(55:35):
the game or whatever the case may be. That's part
of it. But they also know that I'm gonna be
the first to stand on that front line and say, man,
Russell Westbrook is a problem. You know what I'm saying.
You gotta have thick skin. But I had that conversation
with everybody I know in the NBA family, and everybody
don't have a problem with how I go about it
because they know it's my job. They know I'm not

(55:57):
gonna go overboard and kill them, but I can't be
by right, that's Perk. That's great stuff. Could you be
doing a disservice to the fans and that's what you
worked for, right, You worked for the fans? My man
very well, said man. I wish we had longer, but
we gotta run. But thank you man, that was great stuff, Perk.
Anytime my brothers, I appreciating y'all. Keep it up, all right.

(56:20):
I'm always watching in a huge fan as a little
brother in his media world. Thank you, brother, you keep
work too, all right. That's our man, Kendrick Perkins. All right,
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all right, it is time for six minutes. We got
breaking news, all right, breaking news. First, breaking news from

(57:34):
Fox Sports. Ken Rosenthal has just reported that Major League
Baseball's Cleveland Indians are now considering the possibility changing their nickname.
The Indians said in a statement to The Athletic on
Friday evening, and I quote, We're committed to making a
positive impact in our community and embrace our responsibility to

(57:55):
advance social justice and equality. Our organization fully recognizes our
team name is among the most visible ways in which
we connect with the community. We have had ongoing discussions
on these issues. The recent unrest in our community and
our country has underscored the need for us to keep improving.
With that in mind, we are committed to engaging our

(58:15):
community to determine the best path forward with regard to
our team name unquote, I am Floyd. I am Floyd, Chris,
I really am. The charge has never been about the Indians,
you know what I mean, Like not never been Native Americans,
as you and I have said. I've been out there

(58:38):
and protested it. Yeah, but but a lot of it
had to do with the mascot, not as much as
as the Washington NFL team. And does that mean that
the Atlanta Braves have somebody made a call toward the
Atlanta Brave No, seriously, like ft, the Indians are thinking
of changing? All right? What do we want to do? Leave?

(58:59):
What do we to do here? We're gonna do We're
gonna get enough time for six minutes. We have enough team.
We'll get to that either in the next hour or yeah,
we gotta stick with this. Let's stick because we don't
have enough time because we got a guess coming up too.
We got the professor coming up in three minutes. All right,
but how are we gonna do six minutes. If you
got a guess, we can do it in the next hour.
Next we're gonna do six minutes in the next hour. Yeah, okay,

(59:22):
So where are you on this, Chris? How shocked are
you come in? Um, I'm not shocked. I'm I'm I
think it's good. I didn't think of it. I didn't
think of it, even with what was going on in Washington.
I did not think of this the shot. I thought
of all of them. I thought of the Braves, I
thought of the Indians, obviously the team in Washington. So look,
I again, I'm not claiming to be the expert on

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Native American history and what is offensive to them and
what isn't. But I think they should speak. And obviously
even they're gonna sum of them will disagree, but I
think they should have. You know, as I mentioned the
one group it came out before and uh talked about
the Redskins. I mean, I'd like to hear their opinion

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on the Indians. Look, we all know, now what do
we call We're saying Native Americans rob because the Indians.
I mean, that was a misnomer. You know, Chris Rick
Columbus thought he was in India. He called him Indians.
So uh, the National Congress of American Indians. That's the group,
the National Congress of American Indians that represents the five

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hundred tribes that called for the team in Washington to
change It's think about that. Christ. They didn't send it
out and say the Braves and you know what I mean,
and the Indians, and it was it was about Washington,
and that's not as offensive to them. You know, let's
hear from them. Um. But like I said, I you know,

(01:00:49):
I would like to hear from some Native Americans on
this too, because again, they were not even it's just
a whole the name isn't even represent them, and so
I would love to hear from them. But I'm look,
I'm fine with it. I mean, even if it's potentially offensive,
you know what's wrong with changing it? There? And you

(01:01:10):
know nick names out there that you can choose, There's
no doubt about it. I've said this before. We talked
about it with the Wizards and the Bullets, Chris, they
changed it. We talked about it with Saint John's UH
University in New York. They would have they would have
red men and and and the Native Americans pushed back
and you know what they said, it's the Red Storm,
new new apparel, new name, takedown the old name. And

(01:01:35):
that was the end of it. Nobody, it was the
end of it. Yep. So you're you know you lived
in Cleveland, Chris. Yeah, I did the Indians ever bother you.
I'm not saying that it's your your call, but I'm
just yeah, no, I mean, it didn't. And to be honest,
growing up, the Radskins didn't bother me. You know, um,
you know, I never thought about like most of us.

(01:01:57):
But once you know, I mean, you're a kid, and
then you become an adult, and you bet you learn
more and then you recognize names that could be offensive.
And I do remember vividly. I was with the Indians
through their playoff running nineteen ninety five to the World Series,
and there were Native Americans out there protesting Chief Wahu.

(01:02:19):
I'm not sure how they felt about the name of
the team, but they were definitely out there protesting. And
so you know, and I told you when this series
in ninety two with the Braves, you know that they
were protesting and they wanted that tomahawk chop to stop.
If you remember that were there were Native Americans outside

(01:02:40):
of the Turner field back then. Yeah, I think it's
a Look, I think it's a good chance because unfortunately,
we rarely hear from Native Americans on issues like this
because their population. It's smart, they're really not a part
of mainstream society the way African Americans are. You hear
our voice out and clear on things like this, uh

(01:03:02):
latinos um. You don't hear much from Native Americans. So
I'm glad that this attention is being drawn to this,
and I want to hear their voice. I want to
hear from them and see where they stand on it,
and to me, that should be defined the word rob
where they stand on it. All right. I give Cleveland

(01:03:22):
Indians organizations some credit that they weren't even called out
Chris and that and that letter, and for them to
take an inside look at their organization on you know
what I mean, without being called You know, you were
just talking about before about a change of heart and
being forced to do it. They're not being forced to
do it, and they're thinking about it, right, not that

(01:03:44):
we know of. I don't know if they got private stuff,
but yeah, we don't. We don't know, all right. Look,
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way is easier. We are proud to welcome in our
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Grayson the Professor Bouche Grayson, what's up? Brother? What's happening? Hey?
What's happening? Fellas? Thank you guys so much for having
me on. Man, I'm a big supporter of both of
you guys. I've seen you guys hundreds of times on

(01:04:47):
Skipping Shannon and as well as you guys own platforms.
So humble to be on. Thank you. But it's great
to have you on it, And I know I was
a big fan watching you and all those mixtapes and stuff.
Take us back, because that's a why I'll ago now
when at the height of the mixtape fame, in your fame,
what was that like? Did you did you kind of

(01:05:08):
feel like a superstar who was in the NBA? Yeah,
I mean it was incredible time. Um, you know, I
got on there when I was eighteen years old. This
was two thousand and three. And prior to that, just
a year or two prior, I just discovered the N
one Mixtape tour and I was a huge fan and
these guys were like my idols, So almost overnight, seemingly
right like a summer long contest. I had signed a

(01:05:30):
contract the next thing I know, I'm teammates with my idols.
So so yeah, it was It was very like surreal
for me at that time. And I didn't meet a
lot of NBA stars, got to play the NBA players
on our tour, and yeah, it's a great time. What
would have happened if social media was as big as
it is now, do you know what I mean? During

(01:05:51):
that time, probably would have been even bigger. Went through
the roof. Yeah, that that top has come up a
few times in interviews, and I always say, man, I wish,
I wish it was you know, I actually got on
social about two thousand and four, two thousand and five
or something like that, But yeah, I didn't. It didn't
start to bloss until after, but you know, would have
helped a lot, Professor, did you now, I know a

(01:06:13):
lot of the guys on the tour felt like they
could play in the NBAUM. Did you feel that way?
And did you ever really go against NBA players when
y'all were really going at it? And and how do
you feel you did or you know, how'd you do? Yes,
a lot of my teammates did you know? I was
eighteen years old. I was just happy to you know,

(01:06:35):
get accepted into a world where I could play basketball
for a living. So I was coming for more of
a young boy approach. But a lot of those guys
were ten years old and me at that time in
mid to late twenties, and they felt like they could
play in the NBA and then to be honest, like
with a few of them that that wasn't too far fetched,
you know, like they probably weren't gonna get that opportunity
because of resume, and just because street ball at that
time wasn't as respected. You know, nowadays, you know people

(01:07:01):
kind of like pray street ball because you know a
lot of the guards have sort of that street ball
player to their game. So it looked that way differently. Um,
but it was looking as a bad thing. So from
the politics standpoint, trying to make the NBA as the
street ball player, it's really difficult back then. But no, personally,
I was just glad to be able to play for
a living and and I feel like I got better

(01:07:22):
in my mid twenties, mid to late twenties, and I
worked out with NBA players in the summer, and I
definitely could hold my own I feel like at a
certain point I probably could have held a roster spot
or something like that. But I never was. I never
was a street ball player to say I should be here,
should be there. I was. I was just happy to
have a platform. Did you ever come close to getting
invited like to a summer camp or summer league, you know,

(01:07:43):
league roster or anything like that. Um, not quite that close.
The highest I ever got I played the CBA, which
is kind of like the equivalent of the old G League,
right in that league, though you had to pay to play,
right now, I'm just kind of comedians, No, I mean
for me at the time, you know, I was young.

(01:08:05):
I was only twenty two at the time. Now, mind you,
my ballers up in there. So how'd you do? Yeah? No,
I did decent. Like I mean, I came in on
a team I was. I was on there with Steffan
Marbury's brother was on the team. There was a couple
other guys that were in and out of the NBA,
and there was a stretch where I got to start

(01:08:25):
for like six or seven games. I had like eighteen,
twenty five, twenty three, and then when the starting point
guard was healthy after he had been injured for a
little bit, and I went back to the bench and
I just played like limited minutes, you know, ten to
fifteen minutes. But I only did that one year, and
it really showed me that, you know, to make the NBA,
I was gonna take the long route and go overseas
and try to fight through the politics, and it would

(01:08:46):
have been really tough. So I just decided to stick
with street ball. You know. I feel I had built
an unique lane at that time and just try to
embark on that, so no regrets. Where are you on
the NBA and the resumption of the season and the
bubble and the Mickey Mouse Championship in Orlando? Are you
just cool with it because you want to see uh
a NBA basketball and see it finished up? Or or

(01:09:09):
some players have some reservations. Where are you one restarting
the league at the end of the month. Um, I
think it's worth a shot. I think it's worth a
shot just because I feel like a lot of the
NBA players are very healthy and you know, granted, you know,
worst comes to worst and some guys get MOVID nineteen.
I feel like they'll recover. So I don't I don't

(01:09:30):
know that standpoint. If things go bad and there appears
to be an outbreak in the bubble, worst case, I don't.
I don't know that that's the worst thing of all time,
you know what I mean? And I think that I
think it'd be great. I mean, I'm excited from a
fan standpoint, um that they're getting back acclimated playing and
it'll be interesting. Professor, You've mentioned that you're you're you're

(01:09:53):
doing the street ball thing, So where is street ball
at at this point? You know, obviously there's nothing the
equivalent that I know of to the and One mixtape.
You would think from the outside looking in, that is
really falling off. Where is it? Am I wrong? Is
there this burgeoning you know, street ball scene going on

(01:10:14):
or or what do you do how you make a
living from it? Now? No, So I would say I'd
say ten or twelve years ago, it definitely fell off
the genre itself. And I think that was from another
thing the first off, and when mixtape Tour got bought
out by some people out here in California that weren't
as familiar with the urban basketball team. Number two, I

(01:10:36):
think that corporate got really involved with street ball courts
on the East Coast, like in New York and DC,
and it kind of like watered it down so it
didn't feel as much of a hangout. And then you know,
when you go to like like I say, you go
to the Rutger last summer, I mean that this looks
like a pro am run. There's really no excitement, there's
no guy they're going to see it really well, only
get hyped as an NBA player goes and plays there.

(01:10:58):
So I think a combination of all those things and
it's just that people stopped playing outside as much, you know,
with and aau and things of that nature. It really
just kind of like took the air out of it
for me. I don't even brand street ball. I mean
people say I was like street ball legend, street ball player,
but I actually don't brand street ball. You know, when

(01:11:18):
when my digital started taking off around twenty two eleven,
I to me, it's just basketball, you know what I mean,
Like they had put street ball in a separate category.
I felt like because at that time period when I
first got on there, illegal moves were popular, and so
it's almost like it needed its own genre, its own name.
But for the most part, when I play, I try

(01:11:38):
to keep it game legal, you know what I mean.
So I feel like it's just basketball, and obviously I'm
playing with a lot of player to entertain people in
my videos. But um, yeah, I don't actually even brand
street ball, if you will. But right now, it's about
being an influencer Hooper, and that's actually a decent sized community.
Who's good, right? Who's the best street ball player? Uh?

(01:12:00):
And where to skip to? Maloo fit in? Oh you're
saying the best of all time? Yeah? Do you have
like who would you you mean Rob you mean just
best player period or yeah, like like yeah street ball,
no street ball player, like you know, like a guy
who people who was like did that dude was just
would it have to be skipped? I mean as he

(01:12:21):
had that NBA career. Yeah, I mean, if we're talking,
if we're talking all time, it's tough because a lot
of guys were before my time, right Peewee, Kirkland to go,
Joe Hammond, I've seen I've seen highlights a little bit
here and there, but it really before my time. So
it's hard for me to say. But I know in
my generation, you know, with street balls, you know, nineties,
two thousands and all, that definitely skipped my Lou was

(01:12:42):
the best. That's um, but it's you know, he was
a street ball player, also was very He went to
conventional route though, so he wasn't just pure street ball obviously.
You know, he played he played college D one, you know,
D League, and then wouldn't want the championship if they
would have left the men When the Orlando che change
their lineup against Kobe, had something to say, No, I

(01:13:06):
think that had a chance. Man. I love what they
were doing. I totally agree with that. I remember watching
out every game of that series and I was, I was,
My mind was boggled that you know when uh, I
can't remember the guards name. Jam came back after four
months and they messed up the rotation, messed up the

(01:13:26):
whole team. I think that had to be political, right,
I mean the guy obviously his contract was worth right contract.
I think it was all politics, and I don't know
who was on what side, but that didn't appear to
make any sense because Skipp was playing really well. I
was playing well, Professor. I've said that Kyrie Irvy has
the best handle in NBA history. How you guys, obviously

(01:13:49):
that was a big part of the A one mixtape,
you know, just that everybody's handle, including yours. How would
you rate Kyrie's handle compared to you guys? Oh, I
think he's amazing. Man, I think he's amazing. I think,
um yeah, you know. I've had that conversation with a
few people, and some people will say, like, is it
Iver seen, Is that Kyrie? Is that Jay Will? I

(01:14:11):
don't think you can go wrong any of those ways,
but I think Kyrie Irving's a really a really valid
valid argument for the best handle of all time, just
because of the versatility. I feel like like he's got
spin moves, he's got step backs, he has side steps.
He's incredible finisher in the lane after the handle right
to finish um. He's crossover is decent. I would say

(01:14:33):
a difference between him and somebody like Iversen He didn't
have one dynamic move there was like like signature or
game changing, you know, like AI CROSSI probably the most
deadly move I've ever seen. But I think that Kyrie
was much more versatile with what he could do with
the basketball, like you know what I mean, like his
arsenal might be a little bit bigger. No, that that's true.

(01:14:55):
I agree with that. I actually agree with that totally.
But the professor, man, thank you so much. Man. Great
to catch up with you, and you know I'm gonna
be in touch with you, man. But keep up the
great work. Size eleven A case you give come through
some sneakers or whatever, I could always send them my way.
Hey I'm not super shaved. Hey, I'm humble. Man. Appreciate

(01:15:16):
you guys time, Thank you so much. Thank you to
have your man all right. That's the Professor from the
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(01:16:01):
nobody's you know that? Ain't nobody You're talking about? Whoever? Whatever,
whatever you want, it's shop talk, all right, Let's get
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far our favorite time of each and every day now
because we are outside the sports world, gentlemen of worldly things,

(01:16:22):
and we like to bring the people together and talk
about topical things as the world it is literally constantly
changing around us every single day. Let me let me
say this though quickly, and you guys all know what
we're gonna talk about. Do we have to what do
we have like two and a half minutes, Like I
solid three minutes here, I can really quick what do
you think I mean, this is a big topic. I
think we if you guys want, I can set it

(01:16:45):
up and you guys can cory it over to the
next talk about the Indians thing, all right, because I
think you know what I'm saying. I think that keep
talking about it. Yeah, okay, then we're gonna we're gonna twitch.
You know what I'm saying, Alex, because that's just not
enough time. It's so serious. Throw that out, yeah, and
not get to it. So so yeah, so Rob, like
I said, I'm I want to hear from the leaders

(01:17:07):
of the Native American community. That's what I want to
hear from. I'm good. I'm good with with the Cleveland
Indians organization, Chris. And if this is truly like they
weren't threatened by Nike or other organist you know what
I mean, sponsors or whatever. And they just looked at
it and said, wait a minute, you mean to tell

(01:17:29):
me that Washington in the NFL is about to change
its name, do you know what I mean? Like, like,
maybe that's what it was that just shook them up
to say maybe we need to sit down and think
about it. We've had protesters out here, Chris, You've covered it.
You've been there, yep. So it ain't like it ain't
like Native Americans have never been in Cleveland saying we

(01:17:51):
ain't happy with some of the stuff going on here. Absolutely,
and I'm look, you you can change the name, whether
whether they talk to Native Americans or not. There what's
wrong with changing the name period because it might be
offensive because it it probably is offensive to many, you know,
just change it. There's tons of nicknames you can choose,

(01:18:14):
and so I'd be cool with that. I'd totally be
cool with that. And um, I'd like to see it.
And and not that this should be have really anything
to do with it, rob, but let's face it, if
they picked a new name, it's going to sell. It's
gonna be a financial bonanza initially, I would think, you know,

(01:18:35):
and and it's not like look this again, this shouldn't
matter either. But the Cleveland Indians don't have this storied
history either, you know. I mean they've had their share,
you know, good teams and all that, yeah if by
Feller and yeah, all that, and you know obviously they've
been there, been to the World Series, ye true, same

(01:19:01):
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(01:20:05):
must here radio with just us too as well Rob
and Big News. We talked about some of the big
news of the day with the Washington Redskins, the Cleveland
Indians looking to change their name. But there was other
big news that we don't want to dismiss or ignore,

(01:20:26):
and that is that five star college basketball recruit mccore maker.
He's related to Finemaker who's in the NBA. He committed
to attend Howard University in Washington, DC, which is a
historically black college and university, one of the hand you know,

(01:20:48):
two or three most famous ones, and he chose rob
He's the sixteenth ranked player in US by ESPN in
his class. He's the seventy fifth ranked player in terms
of the NBA draft, So you know, if that stage true,
he would get drafted in the second round of the
NBA Draft. He's a seven footer. I've seen him play.

(01:21:09):
He's a seven footer with guard skills, legit guard skills,
candle the ball that well, he can handle it. He
can bring it up like a point. He can handle it,
similar to Yannis, except he's a shooter. He actually, you know,
can shoot it pretty well. Three point shooter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's he's legit man. Um. You know, we'll see

(01:21:31):
what he becomes. But he's here's the here's all you
need to know. I guess he chose Howard Robe over UCLA,
Kentucky and Memphis. That is incredible, that that is incredible
to be big man on campus at those three schools. Chris, right, right,
right right. I love it, Rob. You know, it was

(01:21:51):
almost about a year year ago to the day, almost
when I made a very you know, I made an
Instagram post challenging or calling for the top ranked high
school African American high school players in football and basketball.
Basketball is obviously much easier because you don't need as

(01:22:14):
much equipment, training, you know, coaches and all that as
you as you need in football. I called on them
to start attending HBCUs and hopefully you know, I've worked
with Isaiah Thomas. He's done a lot to try to
get players at HBCUs. He and I have done some
work together on it. We've you and I. We've had

(01:22:35):
people on the show. You know, Lindsey Hunter who coaches
at an HBCU, Kenny Anderson, former player, coaches at an HBCU.
George Lynch another former NBA player coaching at an HBCU.
He's at Clark in Atlanta. And we've had players come
on high school players and talk about going to HBCU.
So I love this. I would love to see this

(01:22:57):
become a trend. Drop. I would love to see it
become a trend. It feels like there's a little bit
of a movement going on as well. And I talked
to a former NBA and I shouldn't say that. A
former NBA player and a Hall of Famer who you know,

(01:23:18):
sent me a text basically saying wow, like you know,
like that's shocking, right, And what I said to him was,
scouts go where the talent is. They don't go to
the schools. They go where the talent is. And if
you're a talented player, Chris, scouts will will find you.

(01:23:40):
That's what they do. If they don't that the reason
they go to North Carolina and du Chris, it's because
the great players go to North Carolina, dude. And it
had nothing to do with the basketball A reader, No,
it doesn't, right, Yeah, no, I look, they're going to

(01:24:01):
Spain and and and Serbia and South Africa and other
parts of Africa Asia to find players. Yeah, we can
find you at Washington d C. John Muran played at
Murray State. But they're not a basketball power by any

(01:24:21):
stretch of the man. We talk about Virginia Union, Ben Wallace,
Virginia Union. Right. And now, of course, I mean LaMelo
Ball's gonna be a top draft pick. He didn't even
play college, right. You know a lot of guys aren't
even gonna play college. So I love this. And here's
why I love it because I do obviously look obviously,
African Americans UH have become dominant in sports, certainly football

(01:24:46):
and basketball, and I believe that if more of them,
and again, I would love to see I'd love to
see a few things. One I'd love to see more
blue chip high school at black high school players choose HBCUs.
I'm not saying all of them or anything like that.

(01:25:07):
That'd be great too, but consider love that they gotta
go there. I didn't go to an HBCU. I could
have went as just a regular student. You know, Um,
you same as you. So I'm not saying you got to.
But when you look at trying to help African the
African American community, then I think you, you, you as

(01:25:32):
an athlete, have something that could really help us. If
the top players went to Howard More House, Xavier and Louis,
Oh my gosh. And here's the thing, Rob, I'm looking
at this as more than just sports. But those teams
would be in the NCAA tournament. We don't have segregation anymore, thankfully,

(01:25:52):
so if they're top teams in the country, they would
be playing in March Madness, winning in March Madness until
television during the regular season or Saturday afternoons, and that
would help them get some TV money. They would It
would bring more money into the school, and I would
love to see a lot of that money go toward

(01:26:14):
the academics of the school and really built them up
to be some really. I mean, there are good institutions already,
but they could become even much better with that type
of money. What I would like to Chris, You're right,
and I'd also like to see and I've seen this.
I'm not knocking anybody. We talked about this before. NBA
players they give money to their alma matters, to some

(01:26:36):
of these big schools that have so much money, Chris,
and endowments and gazillion dollars, and I'm not knocking that.
But if you're gonna do that, also reach back. I
told you about me starting the Sportswriter Scholarship at Southern Connecticut.
My alma mata and then I was thinking about Norfolk
State where I have friends who have graduated from there

(01:26:59):
included you know what I mean, right, right, So to
be able to do both, Chris and I would love
to see some NBA players and people who have money
to donate. Remember that there's money to be donated. You
got taxes, you know what I mean, Then donate money.
They gonna donate money. And no matter what, you're right

(01:27:20):
when the money robbed and you know, players give two
million here to their alma mater in a lot of cases.
And again I'm not knocking that, but I would say,
maybe match it or split that two million, give a
million and then million to right, That's what I'm saying.
Or do the total thing however you want to do it.
But you know, a Syracuse, a Texas, a USC, that's

(01:27:43):
a drop in the bucket. To them, it's a drop.
They have these huge endowments. That is, HBCUs do not
have huge endowments. They could really use that money. It
could really be life altering for students at HBCUs if
athletes gave millions of dollars to them and we all,

(01:28:04):
even if we didn't go to HBCUs, all my parents
my ons and uncles, every single one of them went
to an HBCU. My brother went to Howard, My first
two of my first cousins went to Howard. You know
that my niece went to Howard. Like, HBCUs are are
incredibly valuable and if we to gain help gain equality

(01:28:25):
in the society, we need strong institutions, and our HBCUs
could become strong institutions in the black community. And they're
not just for blacks. They have white white students are
free to go there as well. And we talked about
it in baseball. Go look at the baseball programs. They
have white and Hispanic and black kids all on the team.

(01:28:46):
And the baseball teams even at the HBCU. Yep, so
um it, I would I think. Look, shout out to
mccore maker. I know him. I spoke to his AU
team last years of Yeah, I guess I was last
year last summer, and he told me because I made
a comment about Janis and I a couple of years ago,

(01:29:07):
I said, look, I just wondered, I may have even
said it on this show. Can he be the face
of the NBA? I said, I don't know if he's
got that swag that American swag that we like right
to be the face of the NBA. And it's not
insult or anything. It's just mccore maker said to me.
He said, because he's from Africa, I think ken y'all.

(01:29:31):
I look at it. I want to say Kenya, but
he's from He's an African who now lives in Americans
lived in Australia as well. But he said, I'm gonna
I'm gonna show you that an international player can be
got got enough swag to be the face of the NBA.
So that's what he said. He said, I'm gonna show
you we got swag. You know he's joking, but he's

(01:29:54):
a he's a good kid, he's got personality, he's got
a nice game. And here's the thing, right, if I
know I'm a one and done, like let's say when Lebron,
If if when Lebron came out, and let's say, you
couldn't have gone straight to the NBA at that point, right,
he could have gone, Right, he knows he's going straight
to the NBA after one year, you could go to

(01:30:16):
Howard get them into the tournament. You know, I mean
the money you would have been able to money to
help them. Yeah, it's a bigger picture. That's that's the
way I think people should look at it. I think
you're right, yeah, so something and they are. You know,
the NBA has a program where they they incentivized players
to coach at HBCUs, some of their former players. So

(01:30:39):
I think this would be great. Football is a little
bit of a different story because as you know, Rob,
I mean and so mccour was born in Kenya, just
just to put a bowl on that, he's born in Kenya,
uh and lived in Australia for a while and now
in California. But football is a little different. That would
take some time, as we say it, Rob, more don't nations,

(01:31:01):
you know, from professional athletes could build up their sports
programs the facilities, But it I get, I'll admit it.
Look going playing at Howard, which is still Division one,
their facilities aren't quite as good as say a Texas
or a Kentucky, but they're still you know good and
you know, basketball, you just don't need quite as much football.

(01:31:25):
The difference between what Grambling has facilities wise, you know,
weight room wise, A lot of guys years ago, right
but when everybody was more a par But I'm saying,
but people too, it wasn't as as big of a
gap as it is now. With the gap, Oh yeah,
you mean with it, I don't even think it was

(01:31:47):
a game. Like I know, I'm saying now HBCU teams
would have beat beating the big schools. But I'm saying
now with just the facilities, and it's a huge gay.
I mean, you look at what heck LSU stuff is
better than some NFL team. That's what I'm saying, right,
you know, Yeah, there's a huge gas. So I think
it would take a little time. I mean, look, if
a player wants to go there, great, but that's a

(01:32:08):
that's a heck of a sacrifice for kid trying to
get to the NFL. But again, donations made to those
schools and then they can build their stuff up and
then maybe they you know, like you said, they'll the
gap won't be as large and you might be able
to get some of these football players as well. But
it'll be interesting to see, Rob if this will become
a trend. So let's throw it out to the listeners

(01:32:29):
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. What do you
think should five star basketball recruits following the footsteps of
mccore maker and go to HBCUs you're you're turning away.
In eight seven, seven ninety nine on foxes Chris and

(01:32:50):
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(01:33:13):
I couple of Christ and Rob on the Funky Flashback
Friday and Rob, let's not forget this. I know, I
know you'd like to pick on him, but Steph Curry
stepped up and decided he was You remember this announcement
he made recently within the last year. He is going
to fund the Howard University golf team, men's and women's

(01:33:36):
for the next six years. That's awesome. Yeah, he could
just knock down a big shot with the game one.
He's never done that. He's only a two time MVP,
three time champion. But but sorry, all right, let's get
to the phones. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
do you think this should or will become a trend. Well, yeah,
let's go with Harry and Columbus. You're on the odd couple.

(01:33:59):
Fox Sports Radio. What's up Parry? Hey, how's it going, Robin? Chris?
How your brother doing? Hopefully you got to stay and safe? Yes,
all right? Good. So I would say for basketball, I
do see it it becoming a trend um, just because
people are now I think with the Internet age, um,
people are you know, young young black males are becoming

(01:34:20):
more aware and you know they're they're understanding more of
their history. Like you know, I didn't know about the
Black National anthem until I went to college and I
had an African American studies. Now football is a difference.
I don't see it happening. Um. Like I said, I
went to Ohio State. I was a walk on the
facilities of And again I hate to say it like that.

(01:34:41):
The only way that would happen to it would happen.
It would happen to be like a class you know,
it would be a top rated offensive lineman, a top
rated quarterback, a top rated running back, top radar receiver,
and like a d n you know what I mean,
Like six seven strong positions and it could happen, but
you know I used for that. It would be it's
a ways always away because like you need to get

(01:35:03):
the facilities up. It seems you're in basketball, there's no
doubt about it. Yeah, thank you many, appreciate it. Keith
in New Orlean joining the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
What's up? Keith? Hey fellas the first. So I'm calling man,
thank you, man to get all but I'm gonna appreciate,

(01:35:24):
appreciate that, appreciate youall. Man. I'm you know, my my
grandparents went there and my father, my grandfather is the
reason they started night school, um where you could get
a business sure in night school. Yeah, because he tried
to go to LSU for night school and they wouldn't
accept him because he was black, and so they forced

(01:35:46):
Southern to start a night school program for business. Yeah. Yeah.
My grandfather looks white like he's dead now, but he
looked white like you. If you saw him, he probably
think he was white, but they wouldn't let him in. Look, man,
but Ron may know guy by name of Ricket weeks
Man and uh went to Southern and UH cam on

(01:36:06):
two thousand and three, one of the national player year
in Baseball number two overall pick to Milwaukee. Man, So
it can definitely happen that there's a lot of talent
um at HBCU. Man, I just hope that uh, you know,
in this climbing that you know, a lot of these
big time college athletes was decided to, you know, give
us a second look because at one point time we

(01:36:28):
used to put out was you know crazy. Yeah, I
mean even Southern you know you had Avery Johnson and
Bobby Fields in the NBA Johnson, Phield, Bobby Fields. Uh,
you know, I mean I can go on and on
with you know what, just when did you graduates whole?
You know, look at Shannon Sharp, you know mel Bron Listen, right,

(01:36:50):
I mean right, beg part, Jerry Rice, Jerry Rice Walter.
I mean listen, we can because we can have all
all in the Hall of Fame, Fame, no question, no question.
All right, good calling, man, Thank you, thank you, appreciate it.
How about Andre and Massachusetts you're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Andre? See how you're doing?

(01:37:12):
Thanks for taking my call to the question about can
this become a movement beyond maker Shakur. I think it can.
First of all, I gotta tip my hat to him
specifically for kind of leading the charge and these young
student athletes, kind of HARKing back to the Bill Russells
the Korean Abdul Jabbar still one and fourth, but back
to Cannon's become a movement maker. Shakor plays for dream Vision,
top program in California. Mikey Williams plays for the Compton Magic,

(01:37:36):
also a top program in California. He's seriously considering going
to an HBCU. And the point is, to your point, Chris,
these basketball and football, they generate the revenue to power
these other sports. So these these top athletes, these want
and guns lending their brand to these universities for that
one year and the revenue that it could generate, it
could equal Steph Curry's commitment and really power these other sports.

(01:37:59):
But then also the message in the history of HBCUs
no doubt step On and Dayton, you're on the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Hey? I love
the show I called in where we talked about Scottie
or Michael Jordan being a hater. But I'm gonna say
this at the bottom line, at the end of the day,

(01:38:22):
like with Jordan's is about the money. Yes, you can
find some gems in HBCUs and they're gonna find that.
But just like all the other be one schools, you
have to pay to play, and so so long as
they pay to play, they're gonna find some talent. And

(01:38:45):
now the time to strike because the iron is hot
and you can get some talent and you you can
apply what has been going on in the country. Are
you so? Are you saying in that player that the
HBCUs won't get these players without paying them. They just
got somebody without Bryan and Mikey Williams is considering Howard

(01:39:09):
Andre just said, So, I think dudes are like, especially
if they're guys that it looks like they're really going
to make the NBA in a year or two. I
think they're looking at it like, man, why else would
mccour maker be going there? Exactly? He wants to do
something for the black community. Chris, it's time to start
playing paying because if you don't pay, Oh, you're talking

(01:39:31):
about at the Okay, you're not talking about the tapable money.
They're gonna go over to them because they're not to
be able to do that. They're gonna go over to
the Developmental League and get paid. Mc maker couldn't have
done that. Some will some will will. He didn't want
to do that. He wanted to do something for the nation.

(01:39:53):
I love what he did. Gotta pay, You gotta pay
to get the talent. If you don't pay, you're not
gonna get the talent. Well, we just we just saw
a situation where it wasn't any money. So thank you
for the call. Appreciate it. What about Joseph in Virginia,
which we're talking about a situation where they did bakers right, now,
come on, Joseph in Virginia. Good even fell Us, how

(01:40:17):
are you? What's up? I have to say, fell Us,
I gotta agree with you. Not only what Micher did
was smart, but what he did that was genius to
me was put the spot on Mikey. He's supposed to
be the number one recruit in America and he put
the spotlight on him. I was also the tweet by
dropping his name. I also have to say that if
we really want to see this change in African American

(01:40:40):
community in America, we have to start teaching it at home.
We as parents have to start teaching our kids or
things that we don't feel they're being teached, and we
have to get them in the right door. So if
that means that it's us pushing our kids to go
to Howard Norfolk States and the Virginia Unions of the world,
that's what we should do to help us to get better.

(01:41:02):
You fellas have a great one, all right, appreciate it.
How about Mark and Sacramento. You're in the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Mark, how you guys
doing to day? Doing good? Man? How are you pretty good?
I think it's great. I think it's gonna happen more
based on a lot of the uh, the racial biases
that are now coming out through the Twitter feeds from

(01:41:22):
some of these coaches and players and some of these
teammates are starting to feel like maybe I should start
you to look at these these black schools. And I
think what Steph Curry did was great, and I think
that's key. I think some of these professional athletes are
gonna start to funnel some of the some of their
money into some of these schools to help them. That's
where they need to help right there. Start sending them
some of the money there to help fund some of

(01:41:44):
those schools. And those kids will stay there. I think
that's key, no question. And if they started, if the
pro player pro athletes started really publicized pubbling these HBCUs
like pushing them. Man, shoot, these dudes would be going
there money, go ahead, Rob, Yeah, yeah, I think just

(01:42:05):
a question for you, Uh what what what do you
make of You're an older guy, You've seen a lot,
and I respect your wisdom. Uh when you see what's
happening in Washington with the NFL, in Cleveland, even the
idea and conversation what the name changes? Yeah? What what
do you? What do you make of that? Are you

(01:42:27):
surprised at where we are and what's happening? So fast?
Do we lose? Think what has happened? I think what
has happened is the damn broke and the water came
out so quickly. I'm using that analogy, and I think
at some point we're gonna have to pull back and
get a pace on this change. I think we're going
too fast. I think at some point we're gonna we're
gonna go too fast and change something, maybe before we

(01:42:47):
think about it. But it's going so fast we're not thinking.
I think the emotion of what happened we're just going
that's next. Let's go after that. Let's go after that.
And I think we do need to start to take
a look at some of these some of the names,
and look behind how it got there and how people
feel about it, and not just attack everything. You see,
go after that, change that change, I do. I do
think we need to slow it down. But this needed

(01:43:09):
to happen right right, and well, I think there needs
to you need to. There needs to be some thought now.
And shout out to ice Cube who put out a
contract with Black America which was dealt with a lot
of things he'd like to see happen, and it was
well done. Um happened you know in the country as
far as African Americans. But there needs to be some stuff,

(01:43:32):
you know. It can't just be symbolism. No, No, that's
just kind of what we said. That's just the star Chris.
A lot of stuff that you're talking about can't happen overnight,
you know what I mean. Like, there's a lot of
things that can get done. And I think where where
where the movement has happened and where it's moving, it's
just continuing. It hasn't slowed down at all. Every week

(01:43:53):
and as you know, a lot of these people pulling
down these statues are white. Yes, maybe even most of
the people. Honestly, when you see the pictures and videos
and stuff pulling them down, Yep, yep. It's The I
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(01:44:16):
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(01:44:37):
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(01:44:58):
six minutes. Right this next out. You can check him
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Sports Radio is Bucky Brooks and Jonas Knox and they'll
be on tomorrow four to eight pm Eastern Time. Welcoming man,
NFL Network, Fox Sports Radio our man, Bucky Brooks. What's up, brother?

(01:45:18):
What's up? Bucket? What's going on? My two favorite guys?
Are you doing good? Great to have you on many Bucky.
I want to jump in Chris right away and just
talk about what's going on in Washington, DC with the
potential name change of that franchise, what the sponsors did,
what Nike did. What's your reaction to all of this?

(01:45:39):
And it looks like it's a done deal like this
could happen even as soon as this coming season. Yeah,
I think what we're learning and everything is money talks,
and this situation since the George Floy thing, since we've
seen like the protest and everything, we have seen like

(01:46:00):
the power that people have athletes. We've seen how corporations
have the power to win that change, and so the
Western Riskins were really forced to make a change. Like
this was something that's been a long time coming. It
has been something that has been banded about and talked
about for years and years on end. But when Nike
and fed X and PEPSI and people who are contributing

(01:46:22):
millions and millions of dollars to the organization. When they
when they begin to chime in and they began to
side on the side of bright, then that's when you
begin to see change. And so it would be interesting.
And I think the thing that is, I mean, I
don't know. I think it's so m remarkable of the
Watchman deal. Is anyone who knows I'm from North Carolina,

(01:46:44):
a lot of family in Southeast DC. Man they ride
or die their squad. I mean, you're talking about Chocolate
City fully embracing a franchise unlike any other franchise that
I've ever been around, the love and adoration that they
have for this franchise. It would just be interesting to
see how it plays out with the name change or whatever,

(01:47:07):
because it didn't work out well in my opinion, for
the Wizards when they change from being the Bullets. This though,
is a little different because of the racial implications and
things to go along with it. But no, it's just
it will just take a while for us to get
used to a new new name. But it's something that
was long over you. But one thing, a lot of
people want to see as well. With all these changes

(01:47:29):
that are occurring, is Kylin Kaepernick back in the league? Now?
Are you hearing anything that leads you to think he
will be? You know, besides all that's out there in
the public, are you hearing anything from talking to people
that leads you to think he will or won't be
in the league this season? No, I think it's over
for Kylin Kaepernick as a player. I think a four

(01:47:50):
year gap in between playing with all the other stuff
that has kind of come along with it, Like, I
just don't think he is going to ever play in
the National Football League. In that said, I think he
will go down with legendary status because what he did
at the time. You don't see many people's shacrifice what
he shacrifice to take a stand, And I think he

(01:48:12):
will be recognized and appreciated in the history of animals
much more than he would be in football, just because
for whatever reason, people couldn't get past what he was
attempting to shed light on and it was misconstrued and
unfortunately he found his way out of the league because
of it. But I just don't see how he would

(01:48:32):
be able to come back. And I mean I'm not
saying that he does or he doesn't want to come back,
but four years there's a long time to be away
from the game. I just don't know how at thirty
two he comes back when he's been away from the
game for so long. Just listen to how they talk
about Cam Newton and Cam Newton has been playing consistently
for the last four years. But what about some of

(01:48:52):
the backup quarterbacks they've gotten out of retirement? Who was he?
Chris Nathan Peterman? I mean, Nathan Peterman had a job,
But who's the other guy that they got high school
coach McCown, Josh they they got they begged Jay Cutler
out of retirement. I don't think there's no job like that. Bucky,

(01:49:15):
are you do you think it's actually Colin after this
long away is not good enough? No, I don't think so.
I felt like he was good enough years ago. I think, um,
you know, it's funny like we kind of use staffs,
however we want to use them to shape our narrative.
Like Colin Kaepernick slash in the league. Yeah, sixteen touchdowns
and only four interceptions. People are talking about the completion rate,

(01:49:38):
but look, he completed that rate even when it was
going well and he led them to the super Bowl.
What we saw, what we've seen happen when Colin Kaepernick
is unprecedented. We've never seen a young quarterback take a
team to the Super Bowl, get released from a team
in his prime, and never get another opportunity to play.
It is uncommon, it is unheard of. So obviously there's

(01:50:01):
something else that was at play, but four years removed
from it, the constant controversy and the polarization that is
associated with him, I just don't believe he would get
an opportunity to play in this league, even though he
is still a better player than a lot of the
backups that are in the league. I just think it's
a lot easier for people to just move past him

(01:50:25):
and try and find somebody else. How about Cam Newton
and New England? What do you make of that? And
will he not be the starter? I don't see how
if he's healthy he wouldn't be the starter. Are we
off base? No? No, No. I absolutely love the move.
I love him going to New England. I love what
Bill Belichick was able to do because obviously he got
him on the chief right, he waited him out, he

(01:50:46):
was bargain shopping and he got him. And so now
what you have are two highly motivated people. You have
Bill Belichick with motivated to prove to the football world
that he built the Patriots and he would have had
success with it out Tom Brady. And then you have
Cam Newton who had to sit and watch Chase Daniel
and Marcus Mariota and Blaine Gabbard and countless others get

(01:51:10):
paid more than him, a former MVP who also made
his team to the Super Bowl. I think you can
get the best version of Cam Newton. And also I
would say that Cam Newton had been humbled to the
point that I think he will embrace the Patriot WAYE
and the Patriot way despite all the stuff that people
think about it. He is going cheating, is Patriot WAYE cheating?
He's gonna take on cheating? Is that he's doing to.

(01:51:32):
I mean, but some people will say, if you ain't cheating,
you ain't trying. I mean, I mean some would say that.
But I would say this from a preparation standpoint, Cam
Newton will be doubt in more than he ever has.
From a coaching standpoint, this is the best coaching staff
that he's ever had around him. No disrespect to Robert

(01:51:54):
bry and those guys. The Patriots will coach circles around
the Panther's offensive staff that has been around him. They
will elevate Cam Newton by putting them in a situation
to succeed at a higher level. I think we will
see Cam Newton play probably the best that we've seen
in place since his MVP campaign, especially since they have
the defensive signals of the teams they're playing. So I

(01:52:14):
think you're right. I mean, but you know, there are
a lot of things that are secure. Those things, I
mean just Patriots. The Patriots are Look, they get punished
for they're wrong doing the shortcomings, but I think at
the end of the day, I think those things had
little to do. But the way they've been able to
win UH six titles, they're always at the line or
maybe a little bit above the line. But you know,

(01:52:37):
I mean, it is what it is. I'm with you, Bucky,
Like I was saying this a couple of months before
they made them running out, I think Cam is perfect
in uh in New England. I mean, so what let
me don't you think I hear people saying, well, Kenny
fit in you know, with what Brady did and he
cont that he's not going to even make them opening

(01:52:58):
day roster. That's what people are thrown out there. I mean,
I think Belichick and johnsh McDaniels are gonna come up
with an offense because that's versatility is one of their strengths. Right,
They're gonna come up with the offense for Cam Newton. Yeah,
and then he signed. All the other stuff doesn't matter,
like where people say, oh, they got him on a
cheap winter, but now he's a patriot. So now what
they do and what they've traditionally done, is they find

(01:53:19):
a way to take what you do really well and
put you in a position where they only ask you
to do that. So we go and think that we're
going to see the version of the patients that we've
seen for the last twenty years with Tom Brady. It's
not gonna happen. Well, we're more likely to see it's
kind of a blended offense and offense that we saw
them run with the ji Koby Brissette and Jimmy Garoppolo.
An offense that's a little more run heavy, probably a

(01:53:40):
little more fifty fifty run pass ratio. We'll see Cam
Newton used on bootlegs and play action. We'll see him
used as a runner from his own read and things.
Remember Josh McDaniels was the one that went out on
a limb and drafted Tim Tebow in the first round.
Never really had a chance to do what he envisioned
with Tim Tebow. When he gets to do it with

(01:54:01):
the MVP caliber player. And so I think this is
gonna be fascinated. And I know there are a lot
of people that are worried, like, oh, Cam has been
beating up, he's been hurt, he can't continue to play
like he played. I think the beautiful thing about him
going into England on a one year deal from the
patient standpoint, they're gonna use them the best way that
they see fit. They're not gonna worry about longevity and

(01:54:21):
all those other things. They're gonna play Cam the best
way that they need to play him to get the
maximum production out of him. And I think we're gonna
see Cam Newton play at a high level. And whenever
he's been counted out, he's always responded. At Blynn Junior College, Auburn,
when he first got to Carolina, he has always played
at a high level. When he's motivated, this will be

(01:54:42):
the best version at cam Newton that we've ever seen.
That's our man, Bookie Brooks Man. We appreciate the knowledge,
but Bank you have a good fourth. I mean you
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