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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Good morning everyone. That's right. It's Chris, Bruce
Hard and Jason and McIntyre, my man, Jay Mack. We
are filling in for Dan Patrick here on the Dan
Patrick Show, and we can't wait. There is so much
to talk about, so much fun to be had over

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the next three hours, so keep it locked right here.
We got Vincent Goodwill, senior NBA writer for Yahoo Sports,
coming up at the bottom of the hour to fill
us in on all things NBA as teams arrive in
Orlando and that infamous bubble. Let me welcome in my partner,
Jay Mack. What's up, man? How are yo? Chris? Good

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to hear your voice, man, Good to chat again. It's
been a couple of weeks since we've done this together,
hesn't Yes, Yes, I had you on the Odd Couple
filling in for Rod Parker. That's always a lot of
fun with you. So I'm looking forward to these next
few hours. We got Patrick Mahomes stuff, We we got
On Jackson stuff, we got Cam Newton stuff, we got

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Lebron James stuff. We even have I don't know if
you remember that song. Yeah, are you familiar with the
Gap band? What is it something more of your seventies
music that I don't know anything? So you're you're absolutely
you're not familiar with the Gap band? Am not? I
mean maybe maybe don't say that to anybody else. The

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Gap people know that you've never heard of the Gap?
Is that something I should be embarrassed about? Chris? How
about this? What's more embarrassing the Gap band or the
prison platters that the NBA is serving up in the bubble.
I'm sure you saw the players putting their food on
Instagram last night. That's embarrassing, Chris, not me not knowing
the Gap. They're band. They're both embarrassing. They're both embarrassing.

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But one of the Gap Band's biggest hits was you
dropped the Bomb with Me? I know that song? Yes,
Kenny Smith, Kenny the Jet Smith from TNT fame and
all of that, two time NBA champion, he came on
The Eye Couple on Monday with me and Rob Parker
and dropped a bomb on us. He pulled a Gap band,

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So we will get into that later as well. So
a lot of good stuff for you here, and let's
start with the story of the week. The biggest contract,
the richest contract in American sports history, five hundred and
three million dollars Patrick Mahomes. And look, I don't know

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if I was the first one to say it, but
I was the first one I ever heard say it,
and I said it a long time ago that Patrick
Mahomes has Jordanesque potential, that Patrick Mahomes could be the goat.
All right, he could every blue moon. I'm not saying

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he is the goat. He's obviously, that's ridiculous. He only
got one ring, he's only played two years as a starter.
That's foolishness. But every generation or so, a player or
two comes along that has goat potential. Whether they reach
it or not, we'll see, but they have the potential,
and you see it right away. With Lebron James, we

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saw it said in high school he could one day
be the goat. And with Patrick Mahomes, I'm telling you,
I'm saying this guy's got gold potential. And that's just
repeating what I've said for over a year now. And
so this is my point, j Mack. He just signed
this huge deal, and I know people have been picking

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it apart, and maybe it's not quite as lucrative as
it seems, and maybe it's even team friendly, and it
appears that it is, which is not a bad thing.
But whatever the case, let's assume he's in Kansas City
the next twelve years. If Patrick Mahomes is not firmly,

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firmly in the goat conversation at the end of this deal,
then it was a disappointment. And that what I mean
by that is to get into gold conversation, I think
he has to win at least three Super Bowls. He's
got one, so he's got to win at least two more,
huh three? How many? How many Bradies got six? But

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here's the difference. He Mahomes his numbers. You know, presuming
he continues roughly on this path, doesn't have any serious
injuries that keep him out for a few years anything
like that, his numbers will dwarf Bradies, and not just
because they're throwing the football more, but because his his

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numbers relative to his competition will be far higher than
Bradies were relative. So it's not about rings in the NFL.
It's a combinations. Well, I know, you want to lead,
you want to try to use this to somehow get
into Lebron's better than Oh, I don't need to try.

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It's good sports, NBA and NFL. Here's what you need.
You need a combination of individual dominance statistically and winning,
winning at an incredibly high level. If Bill Russell had
anything close to Will Chamberlain's numbers, it be over. There

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would be no goat discussion. It would be Bill Russell.
But his individual numbers weren't all that eye popping outside
of rebounds, and unfortunately for him, they didn't keep block
shots at that time. So he's not the goat because
of his his individual numbers aren't that that. Jordan's got
the perfect combination. Mahomes can have the perfect combination where

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he won't necessarily need six to pass Brady. I think
that's a little premature to get this goat thing. Jan
I mean two years at okay, Well, I got a
better comparison. Three, it's it's early. I have a better.
The better comparison for Patrick Mahomes and this is undeniable.
This is the slam dunk comparison. Based on what we've

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seen so far, is that he the Steph Curry of
the NFL. Steph Curry just like Patrick Mahomes kind of
an unheralded college star, kind of an undervalued recruit in
high school. We knew in high school Jordan was gonna
be a star. Steph Curry in high school could not
get an offer. Hold on, you can't, I can't. This
is a fact. We knew Jordan was gonna be a star.

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North Carolina was recruiting that. No, we knew that high
school history. I know that he was crazy for going
to North Carolina. They did. North Carolina recruited him. Steph
Curry could not get an offer from Virginia Tech. They
asked him to walk on. Patrick Mahomes did not get
any looks from the big boys. Patrick Mahomes went to

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Texas Tech and one like a handful of games. His
one loss record was nothing special. Okay, Steph Curry. Steph
Curry missed. Then, hold on, Chris, I you had your turn.
Steph Curry missed the NCAA Tournament his third year at Davidson,
didn't even get to the postseason. Okay, Steph Curry comes
and is drafted behind Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio who

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Johnny Flynn was out of the league in three years.
He had a hip injury. Ricky Rubio's never met his
lofty comparisons coming out of Europe. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes goes
after Mitch Trubisky. The Bears traded up for Trubisky. Obviously,
people are are saying quietly, Oh yeah, McIntire's right. And
the light skin factor of course Steph Curry, you know,

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and Patrick Mahomes, and they both had parents who played
professional athletes. Curry and Mahomes is the perfect comparison. Both
of these guys hit the NFL like their respective sports
like comets. Remember as Steph Curry, he actually did, he
won two MVP awards in Lebron's prime. What did Patrick

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Mahomes do? Patrick Mahomes just interrupted the end of the
Tom Brady coronation. Okay, remember Tom Brady has dominated the
NFL Chris for two decades, and here is comes Patrick
Mahomes who sits out here year, which is unheard of
him to sit out a year, then be the MVP,
then win the Super Bowl MVP. It's like, hey Brady,

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people are forgotten about Tom Brady because Patrick Mahomes just
got the richest contract in American sports history. I think
it's a slam dunk. Steph Curry and Patrick Mahomes will
be forever linked as what they are in the NBA
in NFL. All right, here, look, obviously there's some similarities.
You're right about the college career. What I was saying
is Jordan. Anybody that knows Jordan's history knows that in

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high school he was not viewed as this surefire star
coming out of high school, and that people were shocked
that he went to North Carolina, shocked that he started
all that. Now once he got into college, he took off.
That's all I was saying. But you're right. The comparison
as far as college to the end, the pros is
obviously more in line with Steph Curry and Pat Mahomes.

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Obviously you got the light skinned factor as well. Here's
where you're wrong, though, Steph Curry did not hit the
NBA like a comet. He averaged seventeen points. Is a
rookie very good, but not not Patrick mahomes numbers. He
average eighteen points the next year, fifteen points less than
fifteen points his third year. It wasn't until his sixth
year that he was a star by then. But he

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didn't become a superstar when the MVP and the NBA
Finals until his sixth year. So Mahomes is off to
a much better start than Pat Mahomes than Steph Curry is.
Jordan came into the league like a comment. And that's
where Mahomes we knew right away as soon as Jordan

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lays him up. In fact, Bobby Knight said it before
he put on an NBA uniform. This is the best
player and I've ever seen play basketball. So we knew
right away that Jordan had a chance to be the
greatest we've ever seen. And we know that with Mahomes
as well. And here's where your comparison really falls flat.
As great as Steph Curry is and I love him,

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he is, he will never be in the goat conversation.
Never never, He's he's he's kind of in it to
some people, not most, but kinda in it at his
position with Magic Johnson, but it's clearly magic right now.

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But he will never be in the goat conversation, and
Patrick Mahomes will be. I mean, Chris, it's been two years.
He doesn't have thirty starts under his belt. He's not.
His goat stuff is a little silly. Let's two years
in the league. I mean yeah, okay, fifteen years Hey, Chris, Chris,
we as a mayor, as humans have, they do a

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very poor job of predicting the future. Okay, ten years ago,
ten years ago, FS one, Fox Sports Trading, you had
no clue you would be here. Ten years ago. I
had no clue I would be here. Ten years ago,
five years ago, you had no idea what the future
would hold. How why would we predict who's going to
be the goat twelve years from now? What will hold on? Silly?

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People were doing it. You're saying this silly because you
got no answer for it. People, I mean, there is
You can't be right or wrong. People were not saying
It's like people were saying when Lebron James entered the league,
he could be the goal. I'm not saying my hole,
but it's the goal. Nobody credible said that he could
be a great basketball player. He could be phenomenal, a

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great basketball player. Please. He was the first player to
come out of high school and average twenty points a game.
That's awesome. He was the first. You don't get putting
a goat discussion. You can't just climb in the ring
with Muhammad Ali. Chris, stop you can't put Mohomes in
Brady's goat category. It doesn't work like that. I agree
with you that he's not there yet. Could he? Could

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Trevor Lawrence to be the goat? I want you to
listen to me. Mezion be the goat I knows done
getting In twenty five games, he shattered every record in
the league. After twenty five games? Could he be to
go I want you to listen to me. I want
you to listen to me. I said, at the end
of this twelve years, listen closely. Don't don't pull out

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something I'm not saying. I'm saying if he is not
in the goat conversation by the end of this twelve years,
That's what I said. I didn't say he's there now,
stop it. Who's in there? Let's okay, let's back up,
let's go, let's hit on that. Who else currently has
goat potential? Let me ask you. Trevor Lawrence, the Clemson
quarterback not even in the NFL yet, but people are

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talking about him potentially being the greatest quarterback to enter
the league since Andrew Luck maybe since Peyton Manning. Can
we put Trevor Lawrence in the goat category. Yet I'm
not putting Mahomes in the goat category. I'm saying he's
got goat potential, and I don't. I Trevor Lawrence has
great potential. I wouldn't go there. Yet. Who else has

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goat potential? Okay, let's go there. I haven't seen a
quarterback yet with goat potential. Aaron Rodgers. No, it's too late,
it's too late. It's never too he had it, he
had it, well, you gotta win. Well, it's not his
fault that the Packers camp with Jack squat around him.
You gotta have the rings. Well, So now it goes
back to rings us both. Why what I don't under

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I'm kidding. I'll get y'all twisted. Chris, he could get
it with three, but he doesn't have the numbers that
Adam Mahomes will have. See, it's a combination, a very
delicate thing. It's a mixture of the individual dominance in
the rings. And now, if if Rogers gets three more rings,

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which I think is unrealistic, yeah, we could throw him
in there because he's certainly got the ability, but it's
getting late in the game. I think it's okay, here's
a more realistic question, in the next ten years, will
the Chiefs go to three Super Bowls? Yes, unequivocally yes, Okay,

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I would agree with that. I think with Brady leaving, Okay,
with Breeze leaving, with Ben ro Felisberger leaving, we're seeing
like a changing of the guard at quarterback. And I
like Lamar Jackson, Chris, I know you do as well.
He's an fun, dynamic player. He hasn't won a playoff
game yet, so I don't know if his what he's done,
what he did last year, which was phenomenal, I don't

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know if that translates five years, six years from down
plus the style of him running a lot. So when
you look at now he can throw. We know that.
I'm not saying Lamar Jackson can't throw great. Other than
the Chiefs and Mahomes, what is there? Like, who else
is the competition over the next five years. You're look

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at you, I mean you look up and down the landscape.
I gotta say, like the door is wide open for
them to do some major damage. There's just not a
lot of good teams right now. Say you raised up
your voice, you started yelling, you were interrupting me. You
purposely came up with a different comparison just to combat me.

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But at the end of the day, you're agreeing with me.
You went all the way around the Marberry Bush to
just come to this conclusion. Chris, you're right. Well I
said next five years, no, no, no, I okay, let
no say over the next five I think definitely the
Chiefs and the next five they could go to three.

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We saw the Cowboys go to three and four years.
We saw us Russell Wilson go back to back. Didn't
hasn't gotten back. We saw Montana. I think he did
four in eight years. So yeah, next five years, I
think the Chiefs for sure. Beyond that, I think it's
a predict that I'm not. I'm saying they'll be at
least they'll they'll definitely be the three super Bowls. He

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will have three super Bowl wins. Remember, let's just go
back this. Dan Marino in year two was incredible, went
to the Super Bowl with the Dolphins, and everybody was predicting, oh,
hes gonna win many, he could be the goat. And
he never got back to the Super Bowl. So things happened.
The NFL's crazy. NFL stands for not for long ready

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to pick predict three Super Bowl appearances in five years.
I think it's very possible. But you say it's a
sure thing. I can't go there. I will. That's I
feel confident. I feel more confident and well dead. I'm
just giving you history. History is a guy that we use, Chris.
Not everybody goes to one and goes to a ton.

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I'm just glad we agree that the best comparison for
Patrick Mahomes is Steph Curry off the court, light skinned
professional athlete. Uh, you're right, late Bloomer. I'll give you
all that, but dynamic career arc Come on, you know
it's jordanst that's what he's shooting for. But here's the thing.

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Jordan never won anything until Scotti Pippen showed up. Didn't
win a damn thing. Patrick Mahomes don't need any He
doesn't until he got the way Wade and then Kyrie Irving.
So well I did. I didn't bring up Lebron, you
just did. I'm saying Steph Curry led the Warriors to
their first title. That does that? Wait, wait, are you
trying to say he's the goat? No, okay, I'm saying

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the better comparison for mahomes Is Curry period. All right, yeah,
we only have whatever. Let's get an extra hour because
we got too much good stuff. Ever helps you sleep
at night? Man, facts, that's what helps me. Just a fact. Baby.
Will past president predict prevent the Eagles from cutting this
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Mercedes AMG Driving Performance. All right, let's stay in the NFL,
J Mack, but go to uh certainly a story that
is not as as fun and enjoyable to talk about
as Patrick mahone. Yes, Deshaun Jackson on for those that
I can't believe, though there's many out there that don't know.

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But yesterday he put out an instagram of it was
a quote and apparently a fake quote, yes, that that
was attributed to Adolf Hitler about Jews taking over the
world and so on and so forth. And obviously he
rightly got a lot of pushback on that, and he

(18:58):
came out in apologized and here's the here he is
with his some of his apology. Y'all just want to
first off, extend the apology on the behalf of me
and what I stand for, because I never want to
put any race down or any people down. My post
was definitely not intended for any anybody of any race

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to feel any type of way, especially the George community.
All Right, and the Eagles released a strong, stern statement
obviously disagreeing in condemning what Jackson did. The question people
are asking now, Jay Mack is what repercussions will there
be for him? Will he get cut, will he get suspended,

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will he get fine? Here's what I say. Now we
know the Eagles had a situation like this with Riley
Cooper a few years ago. White ride receiver for them,
who used the N word and was at a Country
Western conference and said he fight all all these in
words out there and he was not cut. He was

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fined heavily and ended up playing a few more years
with the team. The locker room Michael Vick led the
way they forgave him, and they moved on from there.
I think with that precedent being set, that that is
what will happen with DeShawn Jackson. He'll get fined, but
he'll he will remain with the Philadelphia Eagles because that

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precedent was set. I would agree that's a smart move.
And Chris, I'm not going to speak to the Cooper
as much as I am. Just this whole idea that
anytime somebody says something out of pocket or stupid or
wrong or factually incorrect, we just want to cancel him
and get him out of here. Fire this person, get
rid of that person, buy audio. See Chris, like, at

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some point we have to educate people and say, yo, Deshaun,
I know you're kind of a young guy. What is
he thirty thirty one years old? You shouldn't be sharing
fake stuff on the internet. Maybe do some research, but
we've got to help. He apparently thought it was you
shouldn't be sharing stuff from him, Like, first of all,
that's just dumpy. But this is a guy who we

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know his history. Okay, remember chip Kelly got him the
heck out of town when he got chip Kelly got
to the Eagles because there were some gang rumors of
DeShawn Jackie. He's like, I gotta get this guy out
of here. He's toxic in our locker room. Can the
locker room overcome this? I think certainly it can. You know,
as long as de John Jackson appears contrite and he
already called the owner called the GM. But this idea

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that like we should just dump everybody for something they say,
there's something wrong with that if we're not gonna help
each other out there because people say a lot of
stupid stuff. You do, I do, Rob Parker does, everybody
at Fox Sports Radio, everybody, our rival networks, everybody has
or will say something stupid. Everybody does. It just happens.

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I am in total agreement with you. This cancel. You
know what we need to cancel. We need to cancel
cancel culture. I'm serious, and we need to stop letting.
I don't know if you can happen today because the
nature of our lives now. But these people on Twitter,
these random people on Twitter who get stuff trending and

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want to cancel everybody for every little thing people have said. Now,
there's obviously a line, and there's obviously a degree of remorse,
and there your actions need to show that you've changed
or whatever. But still, for the most part, this canceled
culture needs to be canceled. Even look, people are getting

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canceled for stuff they said five, ten years ago and
even longer. That's ridiculous. I guarantee you every one of
these people on Twitter who are trying to cancel every team,
and some of them may be well known, some of
them may be TV people. Every person on who's trying
to cancel somebody has said or done something that they

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regret made. They've made mistakes, they've said the wrong thing,
and if people were digging into their pass they would
find things they could be canceled about. But that's the things.
These people are nobody's and they want to go and
attack people who are moderately famous or moderately well known
and say, oh, you said this fifteen years ago, Chris.
This goes back to remember NBA Draft night a few

(23:14):
years ago, Donde Defencenzo from Villanova. Yeah, he was like
the MVP of the Final four. Guy was awesome. So
he gets drafted in the first round and all all
these people pull up, you know, tweets that he fired
off when he was like thirteen. Oh look what he said.
Oh my gosh, we can't have this guy in the NBA. Like,
what are you talking about. He's a thirteen year old
kid exactly. Like, come on, Chris, how lucky are we

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that social media did not exist when we were young teenagers.
Oh my gosh. I mean, you're absolutely right. And again
we're not We're not saying you know, you can just
say everything and keep keep it moving, but we do
have to extend grace to people because we all need it.

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Jackson said, no mistake, idiot, I mean, that's really bad. Yeah,
he's got a lot more than just remorse. This is
no I mean he already called a rabbi, a prominent
rabbi and Philadelphia and started he knows like dude, what
I said was really really First of all, it's flat
out wrong, and it's a like you said, a fake
Hitler quote. Why are you sharing anything ever from Adolf Hitler? Why? Right? Right?

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And he should get fined and he should, you know,
suffer his punishment. But we're just saying you don't have
to cancel everybody. Like I said, there's a line, there's
certain things you can't you can't cross. But this, this
cancel culture needs to be canceled. All right, Do we
have my man Vinny Goodwill? Then are we ready for him?

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Senior writer from Yahoo Sports, Rob Parker's f X nephew.
I wonder if then he's going to the bubble? Well
we can ask. I mean, I gotta Chris, let me
ask you. How is he there? Vinny Vinny Goodwill, senior
NBA rid y'all? Who sports? What's up? Brother? What's going on? Y'all?

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How y'all doing? Man? We are good? J Mack just
threw this out. Are you going to the bubble um?
In case you guys don't really know, the bubble is
really limited. They were only allowing with the exception of
one notable media organization. They're only allowing one person per

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media organization. So just and Chris, thanks already there, Yes,
right right, I get that. Now. Now are you happy
about that or you sad? Uh? Neither. I think it's
one of those things, Chris, you know this where you
want to be part of the action. You kind of

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you know saying you want to be able to see
some of these things, uh, firsthand. To some degree, it
depends on you, like your level of like I don't
say your level of like risk management. Like I don't
have any mitigating health issues or anything that I would
have to worry about, but if I did, I would
probably take a second thought out of it. Yeah, I
feel you on that. What how Look, Adam Silver is

(26:09):
left it open that they may not be able to
finish this season. I mean, and Vinny, I gotta think
that some dudes down there are going to test positive
and this bubble's gonna, to use his word, put have
a hole in it. How confident are you that they're
gonna be able to get through this? We saw what
happened with the MLS team just the other day in
their bubble. Chris, I think this is like uncharted territory,

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So I don't think there's any way that anybody can
have a certain level of supreme confidence that this thing
is going to go the way that they expect or
they hope. Like the hope is that nobody of significance
test positive. There's no outbreaks or anything like that. But
when you think about it, you're letting people into Walt
Disney World, into a different segment of the park, so

(26:57):
to speak, or the compound, but there's still going to
be those risks involved. And then you got the employees
who aren't necessarily going to be tested. And add to
the fact that there's not going to be like a
police presence. This isn't an occupied state that's going to
prevent people where they want to go. You're kind of
going off of an honor system here. And even when

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you talk to players, when you hear Joel and be
talking some of these other guys, they're saying, look, I
don't do anything, but I don't know if I trust
these other guys to suck it up and do what
they have to do. Vinny, when you see what's happening
with the Wizards and the Nets, Bradley Beale's not going
the nets after team is out at one point, do

(27:41):
you think we will actually see Adam Silver say you
know what, Hey, some of these teams don't even want
to play, and we're just going to remove them from
the bubble. Do you think there's any chance that that happens.
The TV contracts and the TV schedules have long determined
that this show will gone as proceeded. Okay, if they

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gotta call you, Jason, they got risk, they gotta call me.
They will be calling us and putting us in Brooklyn uniforms,
and we will be taking those ten days and getting
those checks and taking the embarrassment because the show will
go on. I don't I am of the mind that
they should have gone with the six team playoff teams

(28:24):
just to mitigate the disaster, the potential disaster and everything else.
And when you get the more teams, you have the
more risk and everything else. But we know that the
biggest reason that they're doing this is for the TV money.
You're not doing this for the player's salary, because the
player's salary has already been paid. You're doing this for

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the TV money, and the players buying large are doing
this so the owners will not open up the collective
bargaining agreement by using that forest masure and knowing that
they will take the players to the cleaners for now
and the few farest rolling back salaries and recalculating basketball
related incoming everything else. Like, I won't say the players
are doing this against their will, but they're not necessarily

(29:07):
doing this for themselves. Yeah, so it sounded like doesn't
really want to go there. Uh And as Chris said
and some other players, they don't seem introverted. Vinnie, are
you hearing the same thing. It seems like a lot
of dudes really are aren't really feeling this even though
they're going. I mean, you think about it like this,

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This is the first time for a lot of guys
that outside of when they're were on when they were
on their journey where life impacted them in a way
that they could not be insulated from it, Like their
their athletic privilege did not allow them to be insulated
from things that were going on in this world, not

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necessarily just them getting sick, but people around them getting
sick and then not being able to them, not being
able to positively affect that. You're you know what I'm saying.
When you have people up in the fifties and the
sixties in your family. And I don't know about you, guys,
but I've had family members, you know what I'm saying,
come down with this and it hit home for me.

(30:10):
And even though you can see it on TV and
everything else, I think there's a certain level of eye
opening situations that guys are just experiencing now. And you're
looking at it like, Okay, so we're going into this bubble.
It's an unfamiliar situation. It's in Florida of all places,
and you're asking us to trust you as far as

(30:31):
this environment. All these mechanisms can be well and good. Chris, Like,
I think a lot of the safety measures that they're
taking it's pretty smart. I think we've seen doctor Fucci say,
it's really ambitious and everything else. And if there's one
person that I would say, out of a certain community
of folks that I would trust it with him because
he's been relatively sober and honest about all of this stuff.

(30:53):
But you got to understand, Yeah, there's a certain amount
of reditance here that the players will take. We'll have
because here's the other part about the guy that no
one's talking about. It's not what the virus does to you.
It's not like Oh, if you don't, if you don't die,
you're okay. It does a certain amount of damage to
you that, even if you get it and recover from it,
you're more vulnerable to something else coming out here and

(31:15):
knocking you out. Yes, it's it's no joke, man. Let
me ask you this, Vinnie. You obviously you've seen the number.
I was like twenty twenty two phrases they could put
on their jerseys, the social justice phrases on the back
of their jersey. Number one, what do you think of
the options they were given or even the fact that

(31:36):
they were kind of given options? And two what would
you put if you were an NBA player, what would
you put on the back of your jersey? I would
probably put something that's not an option, because I'm a
little bit more radical. We'll put And I think that's
where you see the NBA. I want to say, you know,

(31:57):
towing the line, but this is where you see that
this is a corporate entity with sponsors, and there are
still a vocal minority or vocal there's a silent minority
of people that the NBA is still factoring in that
they don't want to turn off, especially in the moment
where you want to get ratings and everything else. There's

(32:18):
still I think a fear of upsetting the police, right
because nothing on there says anything about you know, police
reform or funding the police. You know, they're very yah
justice equality, you know, very innocuous things like now. I

(32:39):
was told Anny that the Players Association sent this list
to the league and that the league basically approved everything
they sent. So this was the players, and then you
hear from certain players that said that they didn't have
to say anything. Clearly, there's a impeculative committee. It was
the group. It was similar to what Kyrie was dealing with, right.

(33:01):
I think it was the leaders of the Players Association
or the you know, executive committee members came up with
these these twenty phrases or whatever, and they didn't consult
the whole all the players. But sometimes you do. You
do hire or or appoint guys to kind of speak
for you absolutely, And I think what what we're used

(33:24):
to is guys being being able to um, I don't
put this. They're they're used to working around the margins.
They're used to working around this paradigm of let's push
but lack of a better phrase, let's not piss white
people off here because though these are the people that
we have to worry about it. And I'm not saying
that in sort of like a racial way, but I'm

(33:45):
saying that in a sense that this is what black
people have to deal with when you are in positions
of power. Push but not so much push, but still
sort of try to keep it generic to some degree,
like they're looking at it. They're looking at like, Okay,
at least we have the ability to have a platform
and a message. At least will have in a postgame

(34:06):
press conference, the ability to say people's names and things
like this, and to be able to speak with more freedom.
We won't go but so far on the back of
the jerseys and everything else. And you can't have three
hundred and fifty people you know, on a zoom calls
in let's say this, let's do this. You have to
trust the officials that you've elected in certain places who

(34:27):
have communications with people in these positions of power, and
hope that they represent you. Well. Vinnie, let me ask
an actual basketball question real quick. I know actual basketball. Hey,
So everything I've heard is that if we need a
playoff for the eighth seed, we will probably have back
to backs in the first round. Kauai has not played

(34:49):
in a back to back since I believe it was
twenty seventeen when he was with the Spurs. Do you
anticipate now having four plus months off, do you Kawhi
Leonard can handle it back to back? At this point,
we got about a minute left, Vinnie, Kawhi Leonard just
here four months after He's better play, right, That's that's

(35:10):
that's a there's no travel, you know what I'm saying, Like,
there's a lot of different things. I'm serious, body is
going through a certain level of present preventative maintenance at
this point. Anyway, I'm sure I've heard that he's in
really good shape, you know, from the people Walt and
the Clippers. So unless he's going to be dealing with
some different type of nagging injury, I don't think there
will be any type of problem with Kawhi coming back.
And remember, guys, he was on the call for some

(35:31):
of the top players with Jannis and Lebron and Steph
Curry and all these other guys saying, hey, we need
to get back and play, no excuses, Kawhi. That's right,
all right there, it is Vinny good Will Senior NBA writer, y'all.
Who's sports y'all? We appreciate the knowledge. Brothers. Always come on,
what are you guys doing? You don't have me on
this morning talking about this. It'll be me and Ryan

(35:54):
Parker tomorrow. See you guys, man. That's been good Will
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(36:16):
SR to listen live. All right, it is Chris Brussard
and Jason McIntyre on the Dan Patrick Show, filling in
for Dan and Jay Mack. With all the talk about
Patrick Mahomes and his new contract, we'd be remiss not
to bring up our man, Dak Prescott, who's got one
week from today to come up with a long term

(36:40):
agreement with the Dallas Cowboys. Now the reports are we
know he signed the franchise tag to play for thirty
one point four million. I believe it is for this
upcoming season. The talk the reports are that the Cowboys
are offering him something along the lines of thirty five
million per year for five years, and that Dak is

(37:03):
fine with the money, but he only wants a four
year deal. What do you think about this whole situation.
I think it's sad that as soon as Pat Mahomes
get paid, we hear people say, hey, well, it's tough
for Dak to get his money, Okay. Patrick Mahomes won
an MVP Award in his first year as a starter.
In his second year, Chris he topped that by winning

(37:25):
a Super Bowl MVP Award. Two years. Two incredible seasons.
If not for some Patriots luck in that late in
the fourth quarter and overtime against the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes
starts his career with back to back Super Bowls. Dak's
name is not in the same stratosphere as Patrick Mahomes.
That being said, I would let Dak play on a

(37:47):
franchise tag. I would say, Dak, you know what you
were owing five with mediocre numbers against top ten defenses
last year, Prove it this year, and I would let
him play on the franchise tag. I totally agree with
you that at Dak Prescott, and I like Dak Prescott.
I do believe he's a franchise quarterback. I do believe
the Cowboys should lock him up long term. But you're right,

(38:10):
he is not in the same sentence as Pat Mahomes
period the end, all right, but really nobody right now, Yeah,
Dak is not there, so I'm with you on that.
But here's the thing. I think that the Cowboys will buckle.
Jerry Jones has been known to buckle. Right, He's buckled

(38:31):
every time Smith, Ezekiel, Elliott dez Bryant. He buckles. And
I think at the end of the day before July fifteenth,
he will say, you know what, We'll just sign you
up for four years. And because there's no doubt in
my mind they won him there offered him five years.
Why would they offer him five years at either what

(38:54):
you know before Mahomes is deal that's either the highest
paid for a quarterback outside of Patrick Homes or right there.
Why would they offer him that if they're not sure
about him and the franchise stuff. Look, next year goes
up there close to thirty eight million, which is gonna
mess around with your cap figures. And then the year
after that, I doubt they do it for a third
straight year, but it'd be in the fifty fifty three

(39:16):
million or something like that, which is ridiculous. So I
think they're better off going ahead signing him for four
years at that thirty five ish number, because if most
people think the cap will go up, and if that does,
then you know, as this deal mature, it's not gonna
be a killer deal. So I think they should And

(39:38):
here's the thing. You want to kill Dak. He's not
kill I did not kill him on insta, did you.
Out of four years, he's got more wins in the
regular season since he's been in the league than anybody
not named Tom Brady or Russell Wilson. And that remember
that's with six games without Ezekiel Elliott. And then he's

(39:59):
one of two orderbacks to throw for twenty or more
touchdowns or more than twenty touchdowns outside of the red
zone since twenty eighteen. He's got twenty four. Guess who.
It's just so funny, Patrick, It's so stop it with
the dat. It's just it's not hate. It's reality, Chris.

(40:19):
It's just so comical reality that you give me all
the numbers for offense, right, hey man, you get behind
the best offensive line, you get behind the best offensive
line in the league, a top three running back in
Zeke a great wide receiver corps when they got a
Mary Cooper. Yeah, a lot of people are gonna put
up stats, but guess what, you don't have the most
drops in the league. Last year they were up there.

(40:41):
I don't know, I don't know. Didn't they have a
mediocre head coach? They had a bad headcoa. Okay, he
got fight, so don't forget those elements as well. Dak
is a good quarterback. And I and I said this
on my Instagram and all these Cowboy fans came after me.
If Dak Prescott were in any other market outside of Dallas,

(41:01):
AKA America's team, if he were in Jacksonville, we would
not be hyping Dak Prescott the way we are. Okay,
if he were in you pick a Mark Denver. Nobody's
hyping Dak based on his accomplishment. Well, he's he's led him. Now,
I'm not saying this is you know, uh Joe montana ish,

(41:22):
but he's led Dallas, which is a team that had
been you know, mediocre for for a decade. Has he
been to a super Bowl like Jared Goff, but he's
been the two playoffs? Was he in the MVP discussion
like Carson Wentz, Russell Wilson Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz was
in the MVP discussion before did he win the MVP?

(41:43):
I got hurt. He toss part of his problem. I
need what the best availability? Jason, say it with me.
I know you've heard it is availability. The best ability
is say it with me, class it's availability. That doesn't
mean anything. Oh he's a lam Actually it does because
that's Carson Wentz's brob. My love wins. He's talented, but

(42:05):
he's hurt too much. Well, he got paid because he's
a better talent. He is a better than Dak Prescott's
and Jared Goscott paid because he got to a super Bowl. Yeah,
I would not have given him that much. He's not
a better leader. He doesn't have the intangibles Dak has.
Remember that word, intangibles. Keeping lock Dan Patrick Show, Chris

(42:26):
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Dan right here. On The Dan Patrick Show and Jay MC.

(42:46):
Let's move on to the NBA. We're all obviously excited
about the restart. I think it's gonna be tremendous. Obviously
we're hoping and praying that they can get through this
thing because they faced some real obstacles. Silver. Yeah, he
hasn't been shy, and I and I respect Adam for that.
The commissioner, h he hasn't been shy. And addressing him now, Chris, Chris,
can I jump in with something you just said, a

(43:07):
phrase that I haven't heard a lot of, Like we
all need the NBA, Chris, Like when you disconnect from
social media and you go out in public and talk
to other dads, other young guys, the number one thing
I hear, man, we need sports back. I mean, Chris,
it's getting really bleak. Listen. I get it's been four
months in the quarantine, but Chris, I mean, at the

(43:28):
end of the day, it's not good for everybody's mental
health if all they do is watch the news and
listen to that idiot leader we've got and then go
on social media. Chris, we need basketball badly. I'm rooting
for this bubble, maybe maybe more than any team I've
ever rooted for before in sports history. I'm not kidding,
and that includes my Jets in a couple of AFC

(43:49):
title games with Mark Sanchez. But I digressed. I'm root
to be healthy. I'm not desperate. I think this is
actually a good time. Look if we if for some reason,
I want sports, obviously, that's what I do for a living.
I love sports. Sports has been a huge part of
my entire life, all right. I'm excited about the NBA,

(44:10):
the Major League Baseball, and of course the NFL startups. Okay,
so I'm hyped, and I hope that these guys get
through it and we have a great restart, all right,
in a great season. But I'm not desperate. If they
don't have sports, this is the time for people to
look within and find other hobbies. Do other things, you know,

(44:31):
look at yourself, look in the mirror. There's other stuff
to do. I agree with that, but you know, at
the end of the days we grew up watching sports.
We grew up. At the end of the day, you
played sports all day outside with your buddies, you know,
you hung out with your parents, you had dinner, and
then maybe you flip on a game for a little
bit before going to bed. I don't know about you.

(44:51):
I'm not watching any TV lately. I mean maybe, like
you know, what was it Brittan not Braveheart, but um,
Gladiator was on and I started showing my little kids
Gladiator and my wife's like, are we sure we should
do this? You know, you know, and I'm like, well,
there's no sports. I can't turn it on and say,
let's watch Lebron dominate, you know, against some over overmatched
opponent like sports is a unifiers Like Chris, we could

(45:14):
just get together and watch a game, and it's just
it's depressing at the end of the day. I listen,
I like you, I'm getting religious. Uh, read books, you know,
talk with my family book. There's a lot of stuff
you could do. But Chris has been four months. Can
I get a basketball game from you? And speaking of that,

(45:36):
Lebron James just posted, uh recently a post on Instagram
and it's it's it is interesting to see these guys
working out with mask on. You know, have you run
with a masket or done any workout with a mask?
Not not with a mask. I've you know, I've I've
worked out and stuff, but it's not it's not that bad. Really. Yeah,

(45:59):
I've run it feels like it would be very uncomfortable,
but I guess I don't know what. You know. The
breathing obviously can be a little labored. But I run,
like I try to run almost four miles like every
other day, and I've done it with a mask a
couple of times. I've done it with a mask, and
it's not noticeably different on your time, at least for me. Necessary.

(46:20):
I mean, you're not. That's the other thing, right Again,
I wouldn't say, like when I'm out, I'm gonna keep
it real. I have my mask. Whenever I leave the house,
I bring a mask, And when I go into stores
or whatever, I have mask or yes, But when I'm outside,
if my family and I or myself is just going
for a walk or I'm sitting out, you know, at
an outdoor restaurant with a couple of people, I'm not

(46:43):
wearing a mask. That's understandable. And I'm with you on that. Um.
The CDC has really screwed up this whole mask narrative.
You know. Remember at the beginning they were like, oh,
people don't need masks, and they're like, everybody wear a mask,
like they really bungled this. But you're right, when you're
outside running you probably don't need one. I will just say,
you know, when you're running, you're breathing heavier and the

(47:04):
droplets come out of your mouth maybe a little further
because of the heavy breathing running. Uh, and if you
run by an old person, you don't want to infect them.
So let me ask you this. And I don't think
this is on the table, but do you think they
should play with masks? I've been invited to play pick
up basketball and my first question was are you guys
wearing masks? And they're like, nah, I were good, and
I'm like, I did well. My wife. My wife basically

(47:27):
put the kai bosh. It's just like, hold up, hold up,
you're not playing basketball with a bunch of guys who
haven't been tested. Are they doing temperature checks? And like myself, Yeah,
I got tested tested, I have not. Yeah, I got
tested and I was I didn't have it, thankfully. Was
it the nosed one? No, it was a blood test. Okay,
pricked me and got it the next day and uh

(47:49):
it was all good. So all right, but let's uh.
Lebron posted a picture of him at the Lakers facility
working out. He's just kind of stand in there. It
looks like near mid court, but he's got a mask
on and he's ready. And the caption that he tweeted
out or put out on Instagram is war ready. And
here's what I want to get to the hashtag revenge

(48:12):
season continues soon. Now let me start this and then
I know you're gonna weigh in. I as you know,
I think you know. I like Lebron a lot, big
fan of his game. Obviously what he does off the court,
it'd be great if he won a fourth ring. I
have picked the Clippers because I do it objectively. I don't.

(48:35):
I don't. I go with what I believe over my
I go with my hand over my heart. I think
the Clippers are the better team. We can get into
that later. But this one thing I don't agree. I
don't think Lebron needed to put out this hashtag revenge
season continues soon. And here's why, because when Lebron has
done that in the past, it's backfired on right. I

(49:00):
could name two times off the top of my head.
Last year when he came back from the groin injury
and he said, you know, playoff mode activating, right, and
then they lose to Memphis. The way he was good,
he was good, he was fine, but well, but but
they couldn't even beat these weak sisters. No, it wasn't

(49:20):
on hire, But I'm just saying, like still, usually by himself,
he can beat teams like Atlanta and stuff like that,
so that backfired on him. They didn't even make the playoffs.
And then of course when he first went to Miami,
not one, not two, not three, not four, not five,
not six, not seven, and of course they get two
in four years, so that backfired on him. So I

(49:43):
just think Lebron needs to just go out there and
play and do it on the court without all the
hashtags and the Braggados ship. How about that. I don't
mind that. Chris uh I kind of like it. Um.
You know, he's he's firing back at the whole Washed
King narrative. This is his way of talking to the

(50:04):
media without talking to the media, right, This is him saying, oh,
y'all said I was washed last year when I was
thirty four, we missed the playoffs after I had gone
to eighth straight finals. You thought I was washed? Huh?
Because remember he was doing Washed King that kid from
Akron or whatever whatever the hashtags were, and now he's
on revenge. Mold Chris, I love this. Even when he
lost on Opening Night to the Clippers, and then on

(50:26):
Christmas Day to the Clippers, a lot of people say, oh,
lebron knt takedown kawhiet it's over. He's not getting any
more rings. And then that huge win in March, Chris,
oh that that was one of the best games of
the NBA season, where I will forget season. But does
it override the two losses? I mean I think it does. Yeah,
I think what happened late matters more than what happened,

(50:47):
especially when one of the guys that helped you win,
who had six threes and scored twenty four point very Bradley,
won't even be there. Speaking of whom there too, I'm
just worrying. Can I ask you, is Lou Williams going
to the bubble? There is still chatter since you you
mentioned it. I think, like two weeks ago, I have
been digging around in LA and Lou Williams is not

(51:07):
a lot to go to the bubble from what I've heard. Well, look,
we like you said, we don't know, and Lou would
be a loss. There's no doubt about it. He is
big for them in the clutch. He's efficient for them
in the clutch. Here's the thing with Lou. Though the
Lakers hunted as Lebron, they hunted for Lou and we

(51:30):
were wondering, why, what does Doc River get him out?
You got enough talent. Okay, as good as Lou is,
they have enough talent where he doesn't have to be
in there at the end of the game. True. But Chris,
and this is where I wonder about chemistry. That's the
big word for the Clippers. Okay. Lou Williams has been
a model citizen on that team. He was there several

(51:50):
years now, last year when they took the Warriors and
pushed them and won a couple of games. He's a veteran.
You telling me you're gonna push him aside in crunch
time and play I don't know Marcus Morris or whatever
Morris twin they have, or Reggie Jackson over the guy
who's been there. Lou Williams is really the veteran voice
in that locker room. Nobody listening to Paul George. He

(52:11):
doesn't want to playoff round in six years Kawhi has
been there for five minutes. Lou Williams, He's like, what
are their leaders in the locker room. I'm not automatically
taking him out in crunch time, but if it becomes
a problem and they're hunting him and he's not he's
getting abused, yeah I'm taking him out. I'm saying this
isn't about winning, baby, and I would think Lou wants

(52:34):
to win as much as anybody else. Because I still
got Kawhi Leonard, who is good in the clutch. I
still got Paul George who was pretty good in the clutch.
I got Pat Beverley, who we know is the defender.
I got Montress. They got enough guys Landry Shamman who
can hit threes. No, I mean all please, they got
more depth than the Lakers, and none of those I

(52:57):
can't NAIs not Lebron in the clutch. They're gonna do
the same thing they did last time, match up, hunt
the weakness, whether it's Shammut, whether it's Lou. They're gonna
be attacking one of them. No. But but my point
is they're going to look. I think it's gonna be
a wonderful series, and I definitely think it's gonna be
Clippers and Lakers. I think the Lakers have a shot,

(53:19):
have a shot. They have a shot. They're not the favorite.
Most people pick wait a second, wait time out. According
to Vegas, the guys who set the line, the Lakers
are the favorites over the Clippers. Shots. You're not worried
about Vegas. No Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas. I mean serious,
Come on, so okay, I mean I I know I'm

(53:40):
not worried about Vegas. I'm worried about what my eyes see,
all right, and my eyes see that the Clippers are better.
And here's the thing, Jay Mack, you gotta answer me this.
There's two reasons I picked the Clippers over the Lakers.
And there's two d's depth and oh the dog thing

(54:02):
got more depths, especially with Avery Bradley leading leaving. And
they have more dog, especially with Avery Bradley leaving. He
was one of the Lakers dogs. I need that dog
and the key factor for the Lakers that Jared Dudley.
Dudley alluded to it. He said, look, obviously he didn't
say this, but clearly Lebron's their best player and their

(54:22):
most important player. But we know Lebron's gonna deliver, right,
we know what he's gonna give us. Anthony Davis in
fourth quarters, Jay Mack, Anthony Davis is will be critical
against the Clippers. The Clippers have guys that can match
up against Lebron Kawhi, Leonard Paul, George, Marcus Morris, not

(54:44):
shut him down, but keep it so he won't just
dominate and abuse him and totally take over the game
the series. But they don't have a guy that will
match up with Anthony Davis. And so in the fourth quarters,
Lebron will play well, but you're not gonna just own it.
Anthony Davis is the guy that has to take over.

(55:07):
And here's the problem, Jay Mack. While he's average twenty
six points against the Clippers this season three games, he
scored eight points total in the three fourth quarters, twenty
one total minutes in the fourth quarter. Eight points. I
need more from a d and you do too. If

(55:27):
you think the Lakers are gonna win, you're feeling me
on that just to yes, I'll get to that in
a second. But this whole narrative that like Lebron and
the Clippers. Lebron has dominated the Clippers this year okay.
In three match one two. Here's his lines. Twenty eight points,
nine assists, eight rebounds on Christmas Day twenty three, ten
and nine okay, and on opening nine three, ten and

(55:49):
nine are not great numbers for a thirty five year
old on near triple double. Come on, that was on
even his league averages. What are you talking about? On
opening night? Did struggle a bit shooting first game with
basically a new team eighteen ten eight, Lebron has been
He's been dominated. He didn't even hit his scoring average.
What are you talking about? He doesn't need to hit

(56:11):
his scoring average because he wants to get whether it's Kuzma,
whether it's Avery Bradley, whether it's Anthony Davis. He needs
to get everybody. Lebron's thirty five. Chris, you can't do
what he did in Cleveland or Miami. He just can't
physically at thirty five do that anymore. He has become
the leader. The one game they beat the Clippers, he

(56:31):
topped his scoring average. The two games where he didn't
where you said he didn't need to hit his score
and average they lost. It's not all about score and
Chris twenty eight for twenty three is it's about how
many points you got on the board or how many
points you can create for your team to assist this. No,
well you can if you're assisting Avery Bradley on six threes,
you certainly can. Chris, he's not gonna be in the bubble.

(56:55):
But when you mentioned dogs and the Clippers got these dogs?
What j R. Smith? They know dog? Dion Way, we
know he got dog in him and a lot of
other stuff too. Those But Alex Carusoe's got some dog
in him. Listen, man, you keep talking about dogs. You
go watch dog as the Clippers. Okay, I will answer that.
Go back and watch that March game on YouTube. Lakers Clippers,

(57:17):
show me who had more dog in him other than
Patrick Beverley. I don't see a lot of dog in
Kauhi and Paul George and maybe you can say, hey,
it's just a regular sea. I don't see the dog
in Kawai. What kind of dog got Montress? Harold Montres,
Harold's got dog, He's a dog, and Patrick Beverley also.

(57:39):
But Patrick Beverly is so much more bark than his bite,
and he's trying to get people injured out here. I'm
out on Patrick He's got plenty of dudes hurt. I
still take the Lakers. Speaking of bite, Jay MacCAM Newton
is biting. He's barking. Actually he's barking. The question is
will he be able to bite because he's done with something?

(58:01):
Done with what? That's the question. You'll find out next
on The Dan Patrick Show Chris and j Mack. Be
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Who is that the Goat Band? Baby? Is it again?

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M Yeah, I'm educating you. This is when Chris was
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I'll take it. I'll take your word for it. You know, yes,
them and the Mamas and the Papas. Is that your
your speed? I like that one song by the Mamas

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Jay MC, let's go back to the NFL, and we
talked about Lebron's braggadosha. Right, Revenge season continues soon, and
Lebron's got three rings and four MVPs to back up

(59:33):
that braggadosha. Even though I really didn't want him go
in there, I say, just do it on the court
because it's backfired on even before. But at least he
does have the hardware to back it up. Cam Newton
not so much, all right, But Cam put out in
Instagram a couple instagrams, and I'm gonna read it to you,
J Mack, and I want your viewpoints, all right. Here's

(59:54):
what Cam said he was working out at the time too.
I'm tired of all this humble explative because when you're humble,
they start taking advantage of you. When you don't say nothing,
they start taking advantage of you. The hyena can do
can be doing all that he can do. The elephant

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can be doing all did he do. The giraffe, the antelope,
the chimpanzee, the gorilla can be doing all that they do.
But there's one explative lion in the jungle, and when
he roar, everything stops. And I'm about to explative roar.

(01:00:38):
What do you think, Jay Mack? I mean, let's be realistic.
Cam Newton's feelings were hurt when the franchise he played
for his entire career basically kicked him to the curb
and then nobody wanted him. I mean, teams are jumping
and grab Jamis and Andy Dalton and nobody touched camp.
And this is where you know. I took a lot

(01:00:59):
of heat when one on Cowherd Show and I mentioned
Baker Mayfield so obsessed with his phone in social media.
And now I've been proven right two years later when
Baker Mayfield said, Hey man, I'm dialing back my phone
usage in social media. Okay. Cam Newton needs to take
that lesson and apply it. He's listening too much to
social media. He's reading his Instagram comments, he's reading Twitter,

(01:01:22):
and he's watching the YouTube, all these takes, and it
just you could tell that this is impacting him. It's
getting to him. That's why he's putting out this nonsense. Cam.
This is about one thing. You're throwing shoulder. You had
surgery in twenty seventeen. You had surgery in twenty nineteen,
and you haven't been the same. That's it. If you
can get the shoulder right, you will be fine. Whether

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that means releasing the ball half a second quicker, not
taking as many hits, changing your style. Forget about the
social media nonsense. Cam, this is about playing quarterback. I
still think Cam can have a resurgence. We know the
talent is there. You don't win VP, you don't go
number one overall, do what he did at Auburn, immensely talented.

(01:02:05):
Forget about the social media nonsense. Chris, that's his z.
I think that's step one, step two, focus on your
shoulder and your game, and he's back. I see I do.
I was saying j Mac months ago when everybody, when
all the reporters were saying, no, they're not they're not interested,
they're not going there. And I didn't. I wasn't predicting

(01:02:25):
it was gonna happen. I was just saying I would
like to see it happen. I was saying it should happen.
I was saying, why not, why not Cam Newton and
Bill Belichick in New England together. So I'm glad this happened.
And I do think that if Cam is healthy, he
will have a resurgent year. He will lead them to
the playoffs. If he's healthy, I firmly believe that. I

(01:02:48):
don't think it's about oh, can he play like time?
Are you sure he's gonna be the starting quarterback in
Week one? Yes? Why healthy? He's hell, he will be.
Okay this see, here's what people are forgetting. And you
you kind of mentioned this a little to yourself, Cam
new people are forgetting. You glossed over it, I should

(01:03:11):
say yourself, people are forgetting in twenty eighteen. You remember
this as twenty eighteen, Cam Newton in the first half
of the season was a monster MVP candidate. Yes, that's
fifteen TVs. Four picks, sixty seven percent completion with North
Turner and they were six and two of the Panthers.

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And then he got injured. Now, he played through it,
which is a credit to him. But he obviously wasn't
able to be very effective, and then he got hurt
after in the second game last year and the rest
is history. So it's not like you have to go
back to twenty fifteen to say the last time Cam
Newton was good. No, you're one hundred percent right, Chris.
Let me add that when they were six and two,

(01:03:54):
there was a Thursday night game Carolina at Pittsburgh, and
I'll never forget it because I bet it. I'm like,
you know, doing all this gambling stuff for Fox, and
I was like, listen, Steelers, you gotta take them here.
There's a no brainer. And they murdered, destroyed, absolutely eviscerated
Cam and the Panthers. And there was a hit by
t J. Watt and you can see it on YouTube.

(01:04:15):
He puts his helmet right into Cam's shoulder. Cam was
never the same. There's a crazy picture of it and
you're like, oh my gosh, just helmet right to the shoulder.
Cam never recovered. He hasn't won a game since that one.
Since that defeat on Pittsburgh, he hasn't won one NFL
football game, right, And like you said, the key is
him being healthy. But here's what I say. I like

(01:04:37):
the fact that Cam has not let the haters, or
even the fact that teams didn't, you know, weren't lining
up to sign him. I'm glad that he hasn't let
that take away his confidence. I like that. So you
need confidence. We know that you need an ego. We
know that. But as in the words of a guy

(01:04:58):
that we've both talked with, I don't know that we're
talking with him now, Kevin Durant, in the immortal words
of Kevin Durant. Too soon, Broo, it's too soon, bro
Like you didn't sign for twenty five million, you didn't
sign for thirty million. You just signed a Vets minimum deal.

(01:05:18):
You are you've not even been you haven't been given
the starter's job yet. Just go out there and let
your play do the talking. If you do, like I said,
lead the Patriots to the playoffs, if you do have
a resurgent year, then talk about Rory. But now it's
too soon, Brot. Let me ask you. Since we don't

(01:05:40):
know about his health and Chris because twenty eight, we'll
say twenty eight teams, Basically we're like, ah, we don't
know about his health. We're not interested. What makes you
confident he's going to be the starter in week one. Look,
and I never like to just, you know, fly off
the handle off of Instagram videos. When Ben Simmons is

(01:06:02):
hitting nineteen twenty three footers against guys at the y
m c A and putting it on Instagram, I'm not
saying that's gonna translate. So let me let me put
that out there first. However, we know the shoulder, as
you said, and the foot, those are the problems, right
the Liz Frank fracture in his foot. When you look
at the workouts he was doing J Mack, you see,

(01:06:25):
I mean he's balancing on a ball on his foot,
he's lifting with his should like the things he's doing.
And I know it's just a small sample size, and
he puts out what he wants, right, He's putting out
what makes him look good. But what he's put out
does make it look like he's healthy in those two

(01:06:45):
places that we were concerned about. Now he's taking a
lot of hits. And if maybe I'm not worried though
about the wear and tear on his body, just because
I don't expect him to run as much. He doesn't
need to run as much, but I think he can
still be a good quarterback, especially in that SYSM Because
here's the thing. People are like, well, can he be Brady?

(01:07:06):
Can he do what that offense does? What does that
offense do? They adjust that Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels adjust.
They do. Sometimes they're twelve personnel with two tight ends.
Sometimes they're spread off, and sometimes they're run first. They
adjust sometimes week to week, sometimes season the season, era

(01:07:27):
the era, but they adjust. They will come up with
the offense. For Cam Newton. Here's my only thing. Stid him.
Jared stid him. The kid from Auburn has been was
with them last year. He knows the playbooks. They believe
Jay Mack and Jared's did him like that, then they
would have never signed Cam Newton. Seriously, if you thought

(01:07:48):
Jared was gonna be the next Tom Brady or Tom
Brady light even then you wouldn't go out before you
signing controversy all of a sudden because he's a bargain
basement deal. When you get a former MVP who, like
you said, was good in twenty eighteen for the first half,
why not take them? Well, speaking of quarterbacks, let's get
to our man in Dallas, Clarence Hill, who we know.

(01:08:11):
Is all on top of the Dak Prescott story, on
top of everything Cowboys related. He's the Cowboys reported for
the fort worst Star Telegram does a great job. What's up? Brother?
Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. Hey, what's up, guys?
How are you doing? Man? Appreciate you guys having me
this morning. Great to have you on. Man, you're the
man with the answer. So we're gonna get right to it. Okay,

(01:08:33):
I'm gonna hit you with this first, because the reports
I've seen are that essentially the Cowboys and Dak have
kind of agreed on money, something around thirty five million
per year. The hold up is just that the Cowboys
want five years, Dak wants four. Is that correct? You know?

(01:08:54):
The biggest ticket point again, let's say this, before Patrick
million got a half Billy, okay, a half of Billy,
before he got a half of Billy. Yes, the biggest
sticking point was years, Not necessarily money. The biggest sticking
point was years. They had offered Dak a little more

(01:09:15):
than thirty four million, right under thirty five million, but
they could have easily got thirty five million. But the
sticking point was years. The Cowboys wanted to do a
five year deal to help out with stary. Cow Dak
wanted to a four year deal. Once a four year
deal because that's what was all the new money deals.
Look at all the quarterbacks and the deals they've gotten
of the last couple years and been four year deals.
So he wanted to be aligned with everybody else. There

(01:09:36):
were four year deals before year extensions. Again, that was
before Patrick mahon was signed for ten years and a half.
A billy, Well, it's that that. I mean, look, I
like that. I think he's a franchise quarterback. But he
is not in the same sentence or zip code as
Patrick mahons. But is he gonna make this, you know,

(01:09:58):
take him up to those are the forty million or
I mean, you know, it's no one's ever expected him
to get more than Patrick Mahomes. Even if he would
have got thirty five million and became the highest paid quarterback.
We all knew that Patrick Homes are gonna surpass him. Okay,
we already knew that as soon as he signed the contract,
he's gonna surpass him. Probably to Shaun Watson too. That's

(01:10:20):
just how it goes. The next guy gets the most money,
you know, And so now that Patrick Mahomes has already
surpassed him in just a month of negotiations. No one
expects him to get Patrick Mahomes money. I'm Deck's not
expected to get Patrick Homes money. But what it does
is it does raise the floor. I mean, you go
from an ideal that you know, Russell Wilson was the

(01:10:41):
top paid quarterback at thirty five million a year. Now
you got uh, Patrick Mahomes, you know, average new money
four pot quarterback that has raised the floor. So no
one but but now with him getting a thirty four
point one million dollars this year or the fat o
tag and next to the franchise tag being thirty seven

(01:11:03):
million for him, if they don't get a deal done, Uh,
why would I set up with thirty five right now? Well,
let me ask you this, Clarence. Every quarterback who you've
mentioned here and has been mentioned in that thirty five
to forty rains, whether it's Russ Uh, you know, Patrick Mahomes,
Jared Goffe, all these guys, they've been to a Super
Bowl or been in the MVP discussion. Dak is in

(01:11:27):
ninither Clarence shutting down. I like how you, I like you?
You changed that to been in the MVP discussion to
fit Carson Wentz, and I like that. I mean, and
they traded up for Carson Wentz. But yeah, first it
was a super Bowl, didn't you get. I mean, they
traded up for the guy. They're not gonna bail on

(01:11:49):
him to your game. So so really, so really, what
you're saying that they were all first round pick well
except that Russell, but they're all first round picks. Uh.
The bottom line is this, if you look any to light,
you put dak Under against Carson Winston, Jared Golf outside

(01:12:15):
of that quote unquote, he's been to the super Bowl,
even though Golf looked awful of this has not if
you just look at his numbers and what he's done,
he's been, you know. And then Carson Wentz certainly how
many playoff games the Carson Wentz one zero? Okay, I
just want to make sure we were all that same page.

(01:12:37):
But but but but then the difference is is that
you know, this's the problem I was talking about my
radio show last night. You know, when you come in
as a fourth round pick, you always have to prove yourself.
You hoping in the first round picked. He will always
give me the benefit of that one. He was picking
numb one overall, and so he continues to have to
prove himself. Are there their doubters about you know, what

(01:12:58):
he can do? It is ceiling because he wasn't the
first round pick up, because he wasn't UH and because
he came in at the fourth round pick up. You
look at the numbers, you watched the game. He's certainly
Ferris come very well to those quarterbacks like Carson Wentz
and and Jared Golf and and and you know, it's
funny to me because if you go back to UH
a few years ago, the San Francisco quarterback then five

(01:13:21):
starts became the high paid player in the league, you know,
and no one questioned that. They just were believing our guy,
and we gave him this money, and we made the
highes paid player the league. Yes, he's been to the
Super Bowl, but he had done nothing much time he
got the countrack. Okay, and so let's not change how
this team works. If you believe in your guy and
these are what it is for the quarterback position and

(01:13:44):
what you have to pay for a quarterback, then you
commit to your guy. Well, it's pretty clear Clarence it's
pretty clear the forty nine ers were desperate, they had
to overpay. They were a dumpster fight. But is Dallas
you did say, we're just I'm just dealing with the facts,
so you get dealing with all this other stuff. I'm
just dealing with the fact of how these things that
have worked. And really what has happened over the last

(01:14:06):
few years is the next guy gets paid. The next
quarterback up gets paid. He gets paid quarterback money. You know,
all these guys was as Kirk Cousins, Jared Golf, Carson
Wentzon was table him get paid. They get paid to
the current market value quarterback one. It's now it's next
term and it's not his fault that you know, going

(01:14:26):
back to if we went from twenty nine to thirty five,
you know, he's the next quarterback up. The Cowboys say
he's our freshchase quarterbacks, and so they're gonna pay him.
That in that vein in the bottom line is the
Cowboys or the ones who have identified him with their
fratjise quarterback. They're the ones who have offered him Russell
Wilson like money already. So that's not a question about

(01:14:47):
what money shoul getting worships. They've already offered him that
type of money. Now it's about can we agree on
that number? And again that number, because this is how
the market works. Has now risen just a little bit
because of Patrick Mahomes signed for and if the Cowboys fall,
they didn't get Dak done before his rookie deal was up.
The thing that the Chiefs were able to do, and

(01:15:09):
Jared and the Rams were able to do, and the
Hels were able to do, was able to able to
sign their quarterback to an extensive with two years left
on his deal, and so they can maniplate the tap
and do things like that. The Cowboys should have gotten
this done two years ago. You know that. You know
Jerry's history better than anyone. He's tended to buckle on
these contracts, you know, right before a deadline approaches. Yeah,

(01:15:32):
do you think that will be the case. I felt
like all along that they were gonna go ahead and say,
all right, Dak, we'll just give you the four years.
Do you think that is what is going to happen
before the deadline? Do you think Dak plays on the
franchise tag? Well, I think two things at work. I
think that number one that Patrick Mahomes has shown Dak
and the Cowboys that you can sign a longer deal.

(01:15:54):
Part of the four year reason was that's what everybody
else is signing for. Now. You want to sign for
four years and you get back out there because the
new money is coming, the new contracts coming, I mean
with the TV network contracts are coming, and as a
possible to chance that they're gonna um legalize gambling, which
um this salary camp and all the other stuff, and

(01:16:15):
you don't want to miss on those opportunities. Well, they've
shown you. Petrick's hone has shown you that if you
money with me, I'll take a longer deal. You know,
do give me, I'll take a longer deal. You know.
So I think some parameters them has been said. You know,
if you want me to take a longer deal, then
you need to make it worth my wich sort deal

(01:16:39):
didn't do that. But I do think a deal will
get done. Let me just say that I do think
the deal with a big dumb. I did report yesterday
they have not talked, They have not renewed talk. There
have been no talks with the Cowboys this March. If
not talked to March. Okay, but then lines get deals done,
so it won't take long for them to get it

(01:17:00):
dug if they get in the same room. But they
have not talked to them. Why did they sign Andy
Dalton Clarence if they're if they're gonna make it, if
they're gonna back it up and give him the breaks,
why go out and sign Andy Dalton because they want
a minute left? They wanted to back up. He wanted
to come home. You know he's from Texas. You want
to teach you. He wanted to find a situation. His

(01:17:20):
family lives in Off Stevens because of COVID. He really
couldn't get out there on the Fraser Marketing search for
a starting gig like he wants to. So it was
just the best situation for both parties. Andy Dalton is
no threat to Dak Prescott. There. It is Clarence Hill,
Cowboys reporter for the four Worst Star Telegram and Clarence,

(01:17:41):
I love the way you shot down Jay Max. Little
Clarence is my favorite Cowboys guy. That's good. I love him.
It's a queue, but I still here. Everybody makes a
mistake here there I still nineteen level love. But you
know he's all about the room. That's our very Clarence
Hill from four worst starteller Rim, great job, brother, Thanks

(01:18:03):
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This is the Dan Patrick Show. And Jay Mack we
brought this up. I ribbed you about this about Kenney
Smith going gap band because he dropped a bomb on
myself and Rod Parker on the I Couple on Monday.

(01:18:47):
Here's what he had to say about the NBA restart.
For some reason, I just feel like young teams are
gonna play better. I don't know why. The fact that
they're they're gonna be signally focused, you know every day,
the fact that the young, fact that they work out
a different way than you know, oldest veterans. Due I
just think that they're going to be They're gonna flourish.

(01:19:07):
The Denver is the Bostons in Milwaukee's and I even
think the Dallas is of the world. He said also
in our interview with him, when I asked him who
he think's going to win, he said one of the D's,
Denver or Dallas. And and to quote him earlier in

(01:19:28):
his his spield that we we just played. I don't
know why because I don't agree. I mean, this is
Chris cool Listen. I don't know Kenny Smith personally. Is
this him trying to get attention? I'm just curious, is
this him trying to This is nonsense. I think Dallas
or Denver. First of all, Yokich, have you seen the reports?
He he lost forty five pounds or whatever it is.

(01:19:48):
Can't even get into the country right now. I mean,
obviously he's gonna play, but we don't know if he's
been playing basketball. By the way, Denver looked terrible in
the second half of the Sea since like January one,
there analytics are bad. They're like a below average team.
Denver has no chance in the bubble. None, uh Dallas.

(01:20:08):
I I you know, I like Luca don Chich. I'm
glad Porzingis will be healthy. I don't know about the
rest of their supporting cast. Do you trust uh, anyone
other than Luca on that team? I mean, assuming Porzingis
is health, nobody else is proven, and obviously Luca is young.
I look, I agree with you. I think it's crazy.
I would be shell shocked. I would be floored. I

(01:20:33):
would be flabbergasted. I would be uh, I don't I'm
looking for another word. But if Denver or Dallas wins it,
if they even get to the finals, if they win
the West, one of those teams, I think it would
be I think if anybody completely shocked, I can see

(01:20:54):
Dallas pulling an upset of the Clippers. Say um, but
I can't see them taking down the Lakers. I can't
see Denver taking down either team. Let me go here
because because I think clearly we both agreed it. There's
only three teams, right, There's only three teams that are
gonna win the title. We agree with that, right, Bucks, Lakers, Clippers.

(01:21:14):
I think, yeah, yeah, the most part, I mean I
do think, like, yeah, win the title. Yes, I would
say that. I think of Boston. I wouldn't be shocked
if somebody upset Milwaukee in there I have Boston upsetting Milwaukee. Yeah,
I was gonna like, I think Milwaukee will win these
but I think there I wouldn't be shocked if Boston Toronto,

(01:21:36):
I don't know if, but they're tough. I mean, Toronto
plays as hard as anybody in the league. They're well coached,
they've got something to prove. They got a better record
this year without Kawhi. Yeah, by the way, did last
year if you noticed, Toronto got down to Florida early
and they've been together, but they had too though, yeah
the whole time, because you wonder if maybe that'll give

(01:21:57):
them a slight edge, A slight edge. I don't know
how much, um, but they I was way wrong about
the Raptors this year. They've been there. They're legit, So
I look, I could see somebody upset him and walk
in the East, but I wouldn't see that team beating
the Lakers or the Clippers. So I think it's one
of those three teams. I agree with you. Here's who
I want to throw at you though, based off what

(01:22:17):
Kenny Smith said, if let's just let's go along with
his game, let's go along with his folly, all right?
As as the Great Walk Clyde Fraser would say, uh,
and say Dallas does win it, what would that do
for Luca donches. We already know he's gonna be a

(01:22:37):
future MVP candidate, probably an MVP winner at some point.
He has a I would say Lebron is the best
what twenty year old twenty year old we've ever seen
in the league, But Luca's accomplished more than Lebron at
this young age. What would it do for Luca's legacy

(01:22:59):
or Luca's stature if somehow they were to win it?
J Matt, I mean that would you know if they
pulled it off this year? Like I already liked Luca
a lot, and right, you know the listen it was
the Larry Bird stuff followed around Dirk Nevitski for a while,
right yeah, and the white if he was black. I
got admit, I wouldn't compare with Larry Bird, but he's not,

(01:23:20):
so I do. Thank you for keeping it real. By
the way, yeah, um, and like, listen, the Larry Bird
stuff's gonna follow Luca. I just want to say to
the to the young guys out there, Uh, Larry Bird
won three straight MVP Awards. He was the best player
in the league eighty four, eighty five, eighty six, three
straight MVPs. We've never seen that done since then. Now,
Lebron had two, and then Derrick Crow stole one, and

(01:23:43):
then Lebron got two more. But I'm telling you, uh,
Luka Donche just coming. He has the chance, I would say,
to be a top twenty player all time. I would
say that's a ceiling for Luka Dontche. Yeah, Look, the
dude is fantastic. And like I said, I think Lebron
was a better twenty year old and Lebron. You know,
people would say, well, Lebron was a better defender, no doubt,

(01:24:04):
but not at twenty. I mean he still was probably
better than Luca as a defender. He got by as
an athlete. Yeah, he wasn't a great defender early in
his career and he became that. Luca will never be
a great defender. But if he were somehow to win
this championship, and again I'm just playing along with Kenny Smith,
um what you'd have to I mean, the thing about Luca,

(01:24:27):
it would be incredible because he doesn't have a great
supporting cast either. So he came to Staples for Lakers
MAVs and uh. I was there early on the court
watching Luca. He makes everything looks so easy. He's not
super fast, he's just quick, efficient and just it's like, dang,
how does this guy get every shot off? He's really
fun to watch. I'm a huge fan of Luca Dunn.

(01:24:48):
He's sneaky's strong, steaky, athletic, he's got a little bit
of quickness. Obviously doesn't leap, but um, he knows how
to use his body and he's crafty man and he's great.
I think ny Kenny Smith's off on this one, but
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All right, it's Chris and j Mack filling in for
Dan on the Dan Patrick's Show, and we're gonna get
back to the NFL. That is the story of the week.
The richest contract ever in American sports history. What do
we let's call it? Ten years, five hundred and three million.
J Mack's half a bill, Yeah, half a billy is

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a Clarence Hill of the Fort Worth Star Telegram was
telling us, and he also agreed with me that they
will get Dak Prescott done. To your dismay, it's not
dismay man. I hope everybody gets paid. I do not.
I mean, listen, I dislike a lot of people, some
people in our industry, but I don't hate nobody that

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does not know what. As a Christian, you know, we
do not hate people. There's no value in hating everyone
a right. That is right. But that said in today's parlance,
I'm saying this to sat vocabulary words. You're a hater
when it comes to Dak Prescott. Would you agree to that?
But you know, I'm just how about this. I'm not

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a believer in him as a franchise quarterback yet. Okay?
Is that fair? Yes, he's had a couple of really
good seasons. It's fair to categorize you like that. It's
not fair to say because he's clearly proven he's a
franchise Yeah, that's proven. He's all a favor to find proven.
He's a leader of men. He's got the intangibles. He's one.

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He's been the two playoffs in four years. He's beaten
Russell Wilson in the playoffs. He's got more victories in
the regular season anybody not named Tom Brady or Russell Wilson.
Again with his main man Ezekiel Elliott missing six games,
and he's one of only two quarterbacks to throw for
more than twenty touchdowns outside of the red zone since

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twenty eighteen. Andy, I go on and I Dalton went
to the playoffs in Cincinnati. Now multiple win. He didn't
win anyone. He didn't want any backs already won one.
That's already one? What playoff game? What the damn dude?
Who else you want to throw in my face? I mean,
I'm just saying. Andy Dalton proved he was a franchise quarterback.
And since Smith's dad, no, Matt Stafford has been a

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franchise quarterbacks. As Stafford hasn't won any he's been SMI too.
So exactly that the barometer, Well, Carson Wentz is not
one playoff games? Baby, When quarterback wins is a stat?
What is this? Nineteen eighty seven? I want Carson to
stay healthy, That's what I want. But let's look we

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we we've gotten into dock before. Uh, it's my duty
to educate you, and so let's let's move on to
something else. Pat Trick mahomes one thing I love about
his approach. He spoke yesterday about the contract he signed
and here's one of the things he said, J Mack,
Pat Mahomes, not only does it give me the security

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that I've always wanted, but also it allows an opportunity
for the team to be great around me the entire
duration of my career. I have full trust things will
be handled the right way as we go throughout this
career and that we will be in a position to
win a lot of football games and hopefully win a
lot more championships as my career goes on. Here's what

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I love about that, J Matt. It's the Tom Brady approach.
It's a winner's approach. Pat Mahomes is about winning rings.
That's what he's about. He wants to win championships because
he knows that at the end of the day, his
legacy will be based on how many Super Bowls he

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was able to lead the Kansas City Chiefs too. That's it.
He can put up all the numbers in the world.
If he doesn't have the trophy, then it's not going
to sing as loud, ring as loud as it would
with rings. He can't be in the goat conversation without

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those rings. So I and this is the mentality of
the winners. The greatest winners in modern history have this mentality. Yes,
I'm gonna get paid, Yes I'm gonna have generational wealth.
I'm gonna be wealthy beyond my wildest dreams, and my
children's children's children will be set. But I'm willing to

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leave a little bit on the table to help my
team be in position to add players around me so
we can win. And I said it. Who else had
that mentality? Tom brad have it because his wife was
a world renowned supermodel. Stop five hundred million dollars her,
Tom Brady. Tom Brady is going to make nearly three

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hundred million dollars in his career. Buddy, I don't care
if his wife worked at McDonald's. Stopped, he still with.
Tom Brady was never the highest paid quarterback in the league. Ever,
at any point, three hundred million dollars isn't enough to
live off. Three hundred million dollars is funny money, Chris.
You know taxes take half of that, and I'm not

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denying that to Okay, That's all I'm saying now. Tom Brady,
Tim Duncan five rings. Tim left money on the table
so they could he could stay in San Antonio, they
could keep Tony Parker, Minu Genobi and others around him.
Five rings. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was never the highest

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paid player in the league until his last two years
in Chicago when he got these huge payments because there
was no cap. But before that he wasn't worried. He
was like, you know, I'm getting a little I got
my contract, I signed it, I'm gonna play it out.
And even Lebron when he went to Miami, Lebron was
initially willing to take a little bit less money. He

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didn't have to because they ended up doing a sign
in trade, but he was willing to take a little
less money. And so my point to you is that's
the winner's mentality. And again this that's what I love
about Pat. This is good, Chris. You just helped me
so much in my argument here. Okay, it's um and
I didn't think you were gonna bring this up. This
is good. You finally set something to It took two

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hours for you to help me out with something. Um.
You mentioned Popovitch and the Spurs uh and Tim Duncan
taking less and I've been thinking this whole time, Like
Pat Mahomes said something that you don't see in the
NFL of the NBA. I want to play my whole
career in Kansas City. You don't see that in the NBA.
We I mean, we hear that all the time in football.

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I'm here, I'm gonna put down routes, make me the
highest paid. I'm not going anywhere. We don't see that
in the NBA. We see team players wanting to jump
to big cities and team up with their buddies and
win titles. But why is that? And Tim Duncan, you
mentioned it early success. Patrick Mahomes won a Super Bowl
in his third year in Kansas City. He sees Andy

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Reid as a great coach and a front office who
built a winner. Tim Duncan won an early title in
San Antonio. I think it was ninety nine when they
beat the Knicks. Early in his career. He said, Man,
they got Tony Parker. They're putting pieces around me. I
like this, I will stay here. Ah. But when you
go to lebron and you go to we even started

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to Zion Williamson talk, well, he ain't gonna stay in
New Orleans. Why's that? Because you can't build a winner
around him if the front office doesn't do its job
and the head coach doesn't do its job, You're never
gonna get these guys to buy in and stay. And
that's why I've never bashed Lebron for leaving Cleveland. Okay,
I'm not gonna bash Zion if he ends up leaving

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New Orleans. I'm not gonna bash Kay. I'm not gonna
bash Luca if he ends up leaving Dallas. If the
front office and the coaches don't build a winner around
the superstar, they're gonna want to leave. That's and this
is great. I mean, like, I think it's great that
Pat Mahomes has already said, whoa, I got an MVP,

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I got a Super Bowl MVP. I don't need to
go anywhere. Why am I leaving Tom Brady as a
young guy, Remember he was a sixth round pick. Nobody
thought greatness from Tom Brady. He was good at Michigan,
won a couple of Bowl games, put up some good stats.
You know Michigan, Well, one of your daughters went there.
Brady was never supposed to be an amazing NFL quarterback.

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Nobody had him peg for greatness. Nobody had Patrick Mahomes
peg for greatness when he went tenth overall and he
didn't even start in his rookie year, played one game
I think a week sixteen. You know, like, I love
this everything about this Pat Mahomes story. I love everything
about the Curry story, these underdogs, And I know you're
gonna laugh and say, how's Mahomes an underdog when his parent,

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his dad was a professional athlete, And the same with Curry.
Nobody pad them peg for greatness. And I just think
they're awesome stories. And I think if front officers can
build around their stars like the Chiefs have with Mahomes,
you're gonna get them for the long haul. Well, look,
Jannis has talked about wanting to stay in Milwaukee. We'll
see if that happens. But what happens is this That's

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a great topic, by the way, because the Bucks are
gonna be able to offer him a Supermax after this year.
What if the bubble doesn't go well, does Yannis hold
it against the Bucks or does he say, well, this
is unique, I'm sticking around. Well, this is gonna be
a great test case for as you said, Jannis in
Milwaukee small town or does he want to leave for Chicago,
New York whatever. We just discussed this yesterday too. On

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the eye couple, Trey Young, his dad came out and said,
because their speculation, he wants to go to the Lakers,
because he's signed with Clutch Sports. Rich Paul Lebron James
and his dad came out and said, he wants to
stay in Atlanta and have a statue next to Dominique.
And so I do think that some players are like that,
But here's what happens. I think Lebron may have even

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felt that way earlier in his career. I know because
early in Lebron's career he told me in an interview
in twenty two thousand and six he wasn't gonna chase rings.
He was very confident that he was going to win
championships no matter who was around him. And I think
in your youth you do feel like like initially when

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players come into a league, first thing you want to
do is establish yourself as a star. You can talk
about winning all you want. The first thing you want
to do, especially in the NBA, is establish yourself as
a superstar. I'm one of the best players in the league.
Then you know you're not worried about money or winning,
and people aren't worried about winning for you either like

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there's a honeymoon period where you don't win early in
your career, necessarily nobody holds it against you because they
understand you're young. And then the second thing is I
want to get that Supermax contract in the NBA. Then
once you get that, then you start feeling I gotta win.
As certain players Jay Mack are just so good individually

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that if they don't win rings, there is a pressure
on them where they absolutely have to win, inside or
outside pressure, because I think the outside pressure got to Lebron.
Remember Lebron with Titan social media, the twenty four hour
news cycle. That didn't get to Michael Jordan in nineteen
eighty nine when he kept failing with the Bulls and
he ended up signing a long term deal with them,

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Like you know, he was ascending. They hadn't won anything.
But there was no outside pressure. Oh can Michael Jordan?
Is he gonna win a title? Well, actually there was
not much, not like it is today watching basketball until
too stop it stop, Chris, there is no way you
could compare the pressure on Jordan. But but no, no,
nobody in their right mind would say there's a much pressure.

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In yes, years, there is the day because technology, social media,
so on and so forth. Agreed. But for that time period,
Michael Jordan had the sneakers, he had to come fly
with me video, He had the ridiculous numbers. But everybody
was criticizing him, or not everybody, but a lot of
people were criticizing him, saying he can't win. He was

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in the shadow all these numbers. But he Magic and
Bird are the real winners. And the Pistons were even
better than he couldn't get by the Pistons. You know,
this is we're a great team Pistons. There's an argument
to be made that they could have made the finals
four straight years. Yeah, very true because they had the
Celtics beat uh in Game five all that day they

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had him beat. Then the next year they got to
the finals and lost to the Lakers when they may
have had you know, had them be the fantom foul
call for Korean so that we could go on and
knowing about that. But uh yeah, there is what happens
a Lebron James Kevin Durant. They're so great that like

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there's pressure on them to win championships. Jay Mack, there's not.
I mean, Trey Young is great, if Trey Young doesn't
win a title, is anybody gonna say thing you wouldn't
let me talk about and you bring it up Tray Young? Come?
That's my point. My point is that there are certain
players who were like Damian Lillard is great. I think

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Damian Lillard is gonna be a Hall of Famer, But
if he didn't win a ring, nobody's gonna be like, oh,
he didn't win a ring. Though he didn't, you know,
Like there Lebron was of that stratosphere where it was like,
he's got to win a ring. He's being compared to
Michael Jordan. He's got to win a ring, and that's
the difference. Some guys have absolutely got to do it.

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Kevin Durant felt pressure. You're right, it starts externally, but
eventually it gets internal. It becomes internal. Sent I think
it was eight years in Okac and one in Seattle. Like, listen, man,
just because you guys drafted me, I don't have to
stay here in perpetuity forever. I don't have. Pat Mahomes
has made it clear I already got a title. I'm not.

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I don't need to go anywhere, but like you know,
let's be honest. You started your career at one place,
you don't have to stay there forever. You know, like
everybody out there listening started a job, they can move
wherever they want. You don't have to stay there. And
for whatever reason, in sports, we think, oh, they drafted
this guy, he's gonna be with us forever. No, he

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doesn't have to. We got freedom to rome. I don't
hold it against players for doing whatever they want. They're
free to go wherever they want. But I think the
difference is and I think this is why people feel
that way. It's because there's an entire there's a whole
team loyalty aspect, not to mention, fan base in sports
that does not exist elsewhere. That's the difference. If we don't,

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you would. I mean, the average person, the average accountant
or doctor or journalist doesn't have people in that town
cheering for him, right, spending money on him. Okay, that's
the difference, and that's why we expect more of that
in sports and there are. It just depends on the individual.
Alan Iverson always saying, look, I want to stay in Philly.

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If I don't win a ring, I'm gonna get my
heart and soul to win a ring. But if I
don't win one and I stay here, fine. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show
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Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. All Right, Chris
Brussard and Jason McIntyre filling in for Dan Patrick. This

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is the Dan Patrick Show. We've been talking about the
NFL and the NBA, But Jay Mac, there's another sport
about the return, and I'm excited. It's Major League Baseball.
And Major League Baseball. People may find this hard to believe.
It it used to be wildly popular among African Americans.

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It really and obviously the country. It was america sport.
And he a, yeah, it was definitely America sport up
through to the eighties. You're right, because it long it
was obviously America's pastime. But it is falling off on
the national scene. It's still very strong regionally. A lot
of people say, now it's a regional sport, but it

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doesn't have it doesn't capture the imagination of the nation
like it used to, and particularly in the African American community.
And like I said, baseball used to be wildly popular
among blacks. That might be hard for some people to believe. Now,
young people, you know, because you see so few major
League Baseball Jason is down to seven percent black, seven

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point seven percent African American players. That's actually up from
a couple of years ago when it was six point
seven percent. But that's very low that the high mark
was close to nineteen percent in the eighties. But here's
Mookie Bets. He talked about feeling their responsibility to grow
the game in the black community. Mookie Bets. Many people

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would say this is the second best player in Major
League Baseball behind Mount Mike Trout. Mookie is African American.
Here's what he said about it. Obviously MLB can help,
but I think it's on us, the black players, to
bring it to the black communities and make baseball cool.
I think that's where the disconnect is. Us as black

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people don't think it's that much fun. So we have
to find a way to make it fun for the
black community and get more guys. Here your thoughts. Yeah,
it's a very difficult discussion, Chris, because there is no
easy solution when you look at what's happened to society
with cell phones and video games. We are an impatient

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group of human beings right now, and we want everything
right now. We want to joy the excitement, the fun,
and that happens to basketball, and that happens in football,
and you turn on a baseball game and it's like
three hours. He's just kind of monotonous nothing. I mean, baseball.
Look at what happened with the analytics and baseball. That's

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made the sport either either a strikeout or a home
run and very little in between, and that the sport
just isn't that exciting now. It's weird. Chris. You know,
I got two young kids, seven and nine, and I
coached them in soccer. They love soccer, and then you know,
one of them made a travel soccer. Soccer is more
exciting base Oh, soccer is undeniably more exciting two kids

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than baseball two kids. Certainly, soccer is constant moving when
you're in element well, I mean in elementary school. There's
a lot of scoring. Now MLS is, you know, premier
leagues different, But when the kids are playing basketball, constant
moving uh footbase and I did it. But here's the thing,

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my kids, I haven't signed them up for baseball or
softball yet. It's just not that exciting now. Listen. If
you're playing in the backyard and you're playing pitch to hit,
and you know that's it, that it's exciting. But when
you're sitting in a dugout, okay, and you're waiting for
the entire lineup to bat, it's just not that fun
for kids. I know a lot of kids in my
son's grade who don't even play baseball. Now, if you're

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talking about playing pitching and hitting in the yard, that's fine.
But signing up and signing up for parents to sit
in the sun for two hours on a Saturday in
the fall, when you can go to the beach and
you can do a ton of other stuff, it's a
tough sell. You are so wrong. What do you mean wrong?
So wrong? I played baseball through the time up till
I was sixteen years old. Baseball was just as fun

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as any other sport to play. Now, obviously, individuals have
their preferences. It was never my favorite sport. Was football,
then basketball, then baseball. But baseball is fun to play.
I'll give it to you to sit there and watch
one game in June on a Tuesday night on television
when there's one hundred and sixty two of them and

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it doesn't really matter who wins or that can be
tough of watching the playoffs. I watched some regular season,
but I really tune in for the playoffs because something
is at stake. I wish Major League Baseball would cut
their number of games to about eighty, yeah, eighty to
one hundred. I know they won't because of the money.
I wish basketball would cut into about sixty five, but

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they won't because of the money as well. But here
here's what I think are the issues that of why
African Americans aren't playing baseball as much anymore. And let
me say this first, Jay Mac, this is only a
problem if African Americans aren't getting the opportunity to play it.
Look if the if Major League Baseball is overwhelmingly white

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and other races, and there are very few Blacks playing
because Blacks either aren't good enough or don't want to play,
then that's not a problem. We're not talking about having
a quota in Major League Baseball. We gotta have a
certain number of Black players. If if we don't want
to play or aren't good enough, fine, but I don't
think that's the case. We've shown in the past we're

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clearly good enough. Yeah, and so it's it's it's either
are we just don't want to play anymore or what.
So here here are my reasons. Number one. I think
the first thing is that it's easier now you see
the Hispanic population than the in Major League Baseball has
risen dramatically as the African American population has dropped, because

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it's cheaper for these teams to go down to South America,
to the Caribbean and set up academies down there and
get kids and you can you know, sign them for
less money and all that. That's a way out of there.
That's a lot, right and it's a lot cheaper for
Major League Baseball to do that than to develop kids
in America. That that is, but that doesn't affect just

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black kids. That's all American kids. But that's a factor.
That's one. I think. The second one is that baseball
has become a very expensive sport on the lower levels.
We always talked about you don't see a lot of
blacks and tennis and golf and things like that because
they're more expensive. Same thing with baseball now to us,
these kids in high school are going to these showcases

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and where the college coaches are at and watch you.
You usually need to go to about four or five
in a year, and they cost like five hundred to
one thousand dollars a pop. And then to play on
these travel teams is very expensive. So are those are
more factors The game is being priced out, poor people
are kind of being priced out of It's becoming very
much a middle class or upper class sport. Then I

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think that I also think that the lack, the fatherless
crisis that really is hitting all of America now, but
certainly it's devastated the black community. I think that's a
big factor because playing baseball is a lot of its
father's son, a lot of its fathers and introducing their
sons to the game, teaching them the skills. You're not

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baseball basketball. I can just go out and shoot on
the hoop or play on the playground and become pretty
good baseball. You need somebody to help you know how
to swing, how to judge a flyball, how to feel
the grounder, all that stuff that skills development. And when
I played baseball as a kid, I played in leagues
that were half or predominantly African American, and it was

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fathers coaching us Black fathers coaching us in those games.
So I think that's become a factor as well. And
then I think I'm gonna throw this last thing at you, Jason.
I think the lack of African American players has led
is one factor in why baseball does not capture the
national imagination anymore. Yeah, because let's let's aase it right.

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Black players bring a lot of color and no pun
intended to the sports scene. They some of the most
probably most of the most outspoken, colorful, charismatic players and
personalities have been African American players. And so in baseball
used to have that too, when you had people like

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Dennis Oil Camboyd and Willie Stargeling, Mickey Rivers and Ricky
Henderson and guys like that that you know, they're not
all African Americans obviously are like that, but some have
brought a lot of that to the game that pizzas
Dean Sanders even brought it when he played a little
bit of baseball. And so that is what what what
has made the NBA so popular, Jason, storyline. Storyline. Social

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media has helped Chris, you know that, and I think
that that has hurt baseball as well in the black community.
So hopefully look, it's you're right, it's no easy fix.
You know, the NBA, MLB's got its RBI program reviving
baseball and the inner cities and they're trying, but uh,
you know a lot of those don't have the infrastructures

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to to really support them, and um so it's a
tough fix. But I do think there's a little bit
of a cool factor. But I don't think that that's
far from the biggest thing. That's that's a small I
really do think. And again I'm not a huge social
media proponent for young people. I think you should stay
off that your brains aren't fully formed, you're not ready
for this. But I mean, Chris, a lot of young

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uh you know, African Americans look on social media. Who
do you look? Who do you want to follow? Look
at the followers that Lebron and Curry and Mahomes and
these NFL players and NBA players have, And then you
look at baseball, it's like, geez, they're just they're they're
just not as prominent mookie bets. You might have more
followers and mookie bets on them. I think that is

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where like the NBA embraced the hip hop culture. You know,
they embraced the connection between basketball and hip hop and
they really played into it, and that drew a lot
of young fans. Football is just king, you know, fantasy
football has helped the popularity of sport, and they just

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king Baseball never really they don't. They haven't allowed their
players to let their personalities show forth. Bryce Harper's talked
about it. Who's white. He said, Hey, we gotta have fun.
We gotta show people this is fun, and you know,
and baseball was slow to that, and I think that
is a factor. And um, it's you know, it's interesting,

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but I would love for baseball to kind of get
back to where it used to be, both in the
nation's conscious and in the in the black community. But
we'll see if that happens. All Right, we got Seth
Joiner joining us in the moment. In a moment it
is uh is Seth Ready? Guys, I'm I'm talking to
my board. Seth is Ready, super Bowl champion, NFL analyst

(01:52:31):
our man, Seth Seth Joiner, what's up? Brother? Hey, what's
happening to guys? I've been listening to it's been conversation. Well,
what do you have any opinion on that? Seth I
don't know if you have boys or anything, but you
know you're you're not You're close to my age. You
remember when we were coming up, I mean baseball, Black
people played baseball. Oh yeah, I played baseball growing up.

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You know. Um, I just think the way that baseball
is format it. Um, if you if you're not a
superstar baseball player by the time you get in high school,
you just gravitate away from it. You know, there's many
more scholarship opportunities for kids to go out, you know
and play football and basketball scholarships, then they are off

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for baseball because of the way that baseball is formatting
right right now, It's it's true, man, and it's um.
I hope that that brothers can start playing it again.
But you're right, it's it's an uphill climb at this point.
But let's I would ask you you go into the
inner cities. When I was growing up, you know where

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I grew up, and you know, almost Upstate New York.
I grew up twenty minutes outside the city. There were
baseball fields everywhere. You know, you don't you can't go
into inner city anywhere and find a baseball field. So
it's about access. Football and basketball is easy. You need
a hoop roll out of basketball. Football. Shoot man, we

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used to play on the concrete. You can play football
anywhere anywhere, but where are you gonna go. Where are
you gonna go on in the city and have access
to a baseball field, baseball diamond. You know, when we
used to go to All Star games and whatnot, we
were thrown away because we went outside, even outside of
our element. Outside of element, they had these stadiums. That

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was like, wow, man, man, you need to end. You
needed an ending or two to get over the shop
factor about how nice these stadiums. You know, these these
baseball fields were because you know, we just had a
little bit of dirty some bases. Man, they're in They're
pricing out a lot of the inner city kids too,
because it's so expensive now to play on the travel
squads and these showcases and things like that costs much

(01:54:40):
a little bit. Absolutely, yeah, it's it's a big factor.
But let's get to the NFL and what you know,
your former teams kind of embroider in some controversy or
one of your former teams, the Philadelphia Eagles with Deshaun Jackson.
What is your take on this situation and how do
you think this ends. You know, it's for me, I

(01:55:05):
understand why guys do what they do. But you know,
first of all, you got to educate yourself on all
the information before you step out and say something. No
matter what your views are and what you think about
certain people, you got to you gotta do your research
and find out what they stand for, what they believe,

(01:55:25):
who they oppose, and who they support before you put
your livelihood on the line. You know, there was a
lot of people that listen to what wu Astaracon had
to say over the Fourth of July weekend and got
sucked into, you know, a lot of that nonsense. And
I say nonsense because you know, there's enough hate in

(01:55:47):
the world where you know, you don't have to certain
people who have a voice don't have to put it
out there like that, and people can say what they
want to because I know I probably take some heat,
you know, for my opinions on you know, as far
as what what I just said. But for d Jack,
to me, it's a teaching moment. I keep hearing people

(01:56:08):
even in Philadelphia are saying, oh, you know, Jeffrey Lourie
and Howard Roseman, the need to cut him. He always
stepped the bounds. And but it's a teaching moment. And
I've heard people talk about the contrition peace. You know,
how do you judge somebody else's contrition? You know, I
mean that should he had been on his knees, boogoing

(01:56:30):
and crying. And I get it. You know, there's a
segment of our population has been you know, has been offended.
I get it. But at the end of the day,
it's a teaching moment. You know, you don't you don't
throw away people who make mistakes. And you know, the
Eagles instead of precedent with situations like this, because when

(01:56:50):
Robley Cooper came out and said what he said, you know,
the other players came out and stood behind him. Michael
Vick and some of the other players came out and
stood behind him. And a year later the team extended
him and gave him an extended contract. You know, so
I don't understand why all of us are now. You know,

(01:57:11):
there are people out there to one to throw you know,
DeShawn Jackson totally away, get him off the team, get
him out of the city. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Come on, he said, you know the Eagles, well played
for them, done a lot of stuff in Philly's what
happened with DeShawn Jackson last year? He had that injury
in Week two, and then I heard chatter. You know,
I spent like seven years living outside Philadelphia, and I

(01:57:35):
had heard chatter that, you know, he wasn't really keyed
on coming back. He got that big fat contract and
he caught like five passes after week one, he'd like,
you know, he had these injuries. You know, when you
couple what recently happened with him on social media and
then last year's kind of messy year, we drawed, can
we draw any conclusions that maybe Deshaun Jackson doesn't want

(01:57:57):
to play football? I don't know. No, I'm not I'm
not getting into that whole you know Colin Kaepernick theory that,
you know, just he he's got the large contract, he's
got some money, he doesn't want to play. I'm not
going there. I mean, what happened right yere was he
had the explosive game Week one, and then he got

(01:58:17):
a hernie and injury, and they get the team gave
him the option to either light let it heal on
his own, or get the surgery right away. If he
had gotten the surgery right away, he probably would have
came back in week eight, week nine, you know, and
play the rest of the season. But really what wind
up happening was he opted to allow it to heal.

(01:58:39):
He got his second opinion, the doctor said, hey, and
may heal on his own. Or when he tried to
come back, he played three plays and realized that, you
know that that wasn't enough and he had to get
the surgery. So he opted for the surgery later on
the year. That effectively wiped out his his his entire
the entire rest of the years. So he really only
played you know, one game and may be a series

(01:59:01):
and his and his his his season was over. So um,
you know, let's listen. I mean, I've been watching this
guy work out on social media, um all off season.
You know, he's got something to prove, you know, not
only to himself, but you know to the organization that
reached back out and brought him back in after Chick

(01:59:22):
Kelly ran him out of Philadelphia. Seth, what do you
expect from Cam this year? We said, we saw he
said he's about to roar. Well do you expect from
him in New England. Well, I listen, I expect for
him to have a hell of a year. I expect
for him under you know, one of the top coaches
in the history of the game, one of the top

(01:59:44):
offensive coordinators, you know, in the history of the game.
I don't think anybody can um can can deny Josh
that because you know, he's a big part of Tom
Brady and what was going on with that offense. I
think that they would devise something that would give cam
an opportunity into the showcase, you know, his abilities again.
And I think for the first time, um, you know,

(02:00:06):
in his career, since the beginning of his career, since
since his MVP season, that he's one hundred percent healthy.
I don't think the Carolina Panthers did him any favors
by you know, bandaging up you know, his injuries over
the year and pushing him back out there. He had
the shoulder surgery, wasn't ready came back, was very erratic,

(02:00:27):
you know, then he you know, it was just a
series of things. And some of his teammates, guys like
Greg Olsen and and and employers of that statue, have
said that the Carolina passers did him no justice by
not allowing him to completely heal up so that he
could be the player that he needed to be. Um.

(02:00:48):
Change of scenery, and I think that, you know, listen
to the disrespect for a guy who's only played eight
nine years in the league and I think has a
lot left in the tank. Has been palpable, you know,
from from teams and the media talking about what he
can't do. You know, how in effective he's been. I've
never seen an MV former MVP candidate, and Super Bowl

(02:01:12):
quarterback get beat up in the media like he has,
you know, So I get that, Hey, you know what,
I'm tired of being humble. I'm gonna go back to
being me and covering my nose to people and getting
letting y'all know you know who I am. Um. And
from a confident standpoint, I think that's important for camp
I don't think he needs to walk into this season

(02:01:33):
with this humble, but this humble, little church and mouse approach.
You know, he's got to go out and be the
guy that he's always been, you know, and everybody people
that don't like it be damn. That's Seth Joiner joining
the Dan Patrick Show. Seth great stuff. Man. We appreciate it.
You gotta guys, ain't all right? All right? Lebron James

(02:01:53):
is no longer the key to the Lakers' offense. Yeah,
you heard that correctly. Will debate that next on the
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(02:02:15):
it is the Dann Patrick Saw. You got Chris Brusard
and Jason mackintie. You gotta wait so long? Well, it's
at that pause forget my name. No. I wanted to
give you your you know, proper introduction, like like get
the people you know anticipating here. Yeah, brus do you

(02:02:36):
know what's crazy? So I just looked at the clock.
I'm like, dude, we got ten minutes left? Are you
kidding me? Fast? But that means it's been fun. I
mean I'm no fun for the listeners. I had a
lot of fun with you. Yeah, listen, Brusarry, it's it's
so weird like you. I still remember when you got
to FS one. I was like, Wow, Chris Brussard's up
in here. And then we became friends, you know, and

(02:02:58):
the banter on your basket ball podcast. Gosh, all those
all those Gibronis who comment on YouTube. Yeah, you don't
need to apologize. I mean, listen, I dealt you els
on a weekly basis on your own podcast. Yeah. I mean,
it's so funny the planet that feels that way. Go
if you go back and look at some of those discussions,

(02:03:18):
how right I was about Lebron should leave for La
and Ben Simmons's greatness. I was spot on Warriors being
like the greatest dynasty better than Jordan's Bulls, Like I
nailed so much. I think that's a game better dynasty
than they were so much. They would slaughter the Bulls

(02:03:38):
in a like the twenty seventeen Warriors, you know the
one that went sixteen and one in the playoffs and
only lost a game one. The twenty sixteen Warriors. H
those were seventeen. I forget whichever one went sixteen were great. Yep,
they were great. The look, they're a great team. I'm
not gonna take anything away the greatest. I mean, they
would annihilate Jordan's It's so comical, like trying to watch

(02:04:02):
like any of those Jordan Bulls teams trying to stick
with the Splash Brothers and KD what they could do.
I mean, I just I it makes me a little
sad that that team no longer exists. Uh, it makes
me want to fire off an angry Instagram DM to
my guy Duran be like, why'd you leave Kevin? Why? Well,
he knew he wanted to go somewhere and show he

(02:04:22):
could win somewhere else. Good luck with Kyrie Irving. By
the way, how's your guy Kyrie doing? He he'll be
back next year. Yeah, we'll see. Has he hand picked
the coach yet for your Brooklyn un It's gonna be interesting. Yeah,
good luck? You know. I look, they'll be good, they'll
be contenders. I don't think they'll win a ring. Are
they getting Bradley Beale? That's gonna be tough. Well, Beal

(02:04:47):
bailing on the bubble it has people even more speculating
that he don't want to risk an injury because he
could get traded. I don't blame me because obviously the
Wizards weren't gonna do anything. Yeah yeah, so yeah, I
but now it's gonna be tough to get him. Though.
If I'm the Wizards, I'm not nets have some assets
I mean they got let it seems like Kyrie Irving's

(02:05:11):
demanding that they listen. He wanted a new coach, they
got rid of Kenny Atkinson. He wants a third star,
which he made clear. Bye bye Joe Harris, you know,
bye bye Harris Lavert. I just be wary of riding
with Kyrie Irving. That would be my only thing. You
even said it last time we did a show together.
This is a guy who we don't know if he's
long for the NBA. Kyrie might just say I don't

(02:05:32):
know what he's gonna do. I'm just saying that people
have talked. There's guys have said it around the league
that they think he could just walk away one day. Now.
Whether that's true or not, I don't know. I was
just reporting what people have said so that that's a
little scuttle but that's going around the league. But who
knows if it's true or not. I'm not that's not
a report. That's just no. Certainly you don't want anybody

(02:05:53):
aggregating this nonsense. Yeah here here. The bottom line though,
is Kyrie, don't ever disrespect his game because I'm a huge,
arguably the best shot in NBA history. So you can't.
You gotta give him that the best or the biggest,
the greatest shot in NBA history, Like the biggest shot.

(02:06:15):
I need to an the biggest. I think it's between
Kyrie's game winner, uh in our series winner over the
seventy three win team in Golden State. I would say
ray Allen shot. Ray Allen shot was big, but that
didn't be they were yeah right and they were gonna,

(02:06:36):
but they were down in that game. What about the
magic Johnson hook? I think it was eighty five against
the baby the junior junior Skoy hook. But that was
like the game four, Ok, wasn't series clinching. Yeah, so
four or five, But I think it's Ray. I probably go,
you're Damian Lillard extinguishing in the first round. Oh no, George, Hey,

(02:06:58):
by the way, that shot is, I'm a big game.
You know. He works out on my job game. So
I I talked to him last summer. M MJ gets
the jazz. Here's here's the thing that was off. That's
a good point. It was one of the well, it
wasn't really if you watch it, it wasn't much of
a pushhot. It was definitely hand was on there. It
was I think it was a good no call. Yeah, no, no,

(02:07:20):
I'm not saying it was everything. Yeah, but here's the
one thing. The Bulls weren't in danger of losing. Even
if they had. The game was tied, I believe, and
even if they had lost, they were not gonna you know,
the game. It would have won the game. It wasn't
Warriors calvs. Tied. It was tied, but it was game seven.

(02:07:42):
It was games It was game seven. That that is why,
Because that's why I kind of put the Ray Allen
shot as number one, because if he misses that shot,
it's over. Yeah. I think Gamers had to champaigne court side, right.
I was at that game. They the NBA security was
bringing the yellow rope around the court so they the

(02:08:03):
fans wouldn't storm the court during the celebration with the Spurs.
So yeah, that's that's why I put that shot up there.
It's number one. J Matt has been a lot of fun. Brother,
always healthy out there. Yep. Take care of your family
and be safe brother Pace

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