The Chiefs Will Become the NFL's Next Dynasty

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Remember that you have ownership in the eye couple. Speaking
of which, did you do your trash talking Tuesday to day?
On dance man. Of course I did. It was out
damn well I didn't Sammy Watkins, I trashed him for
y How how much you a topic? You don't. You
didn't know that we talked. I didn't know already. No,

(03:15):
we didn't. You see it. Put that on the rundown.
That's going somewhere on the run. You trash, you trash
Sammy Watkins. That's right. In fact, you know what, we
don't have to do a topic. It'll be it'll come
up in our first topic. Well, it'll come up in
our first topic because it is something to do with
the Kansas City Chiefs. But let me welcome in the

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of you came with that that raunchy stuff. Yesterday on
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That's right. I've got hope for Don. He's the old guy.

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He's got he wants to live his life. Ain't that young,
He's not that young. He ain't gonna live in a
box like you, Chris. You you threw the do you know,
bundant life? You threw the toil got better to the time.
You know, every time I went to the candy store

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between twenty one and thirty three when I got married. Hey,
that's fine, that's fine. The candy that too much candy
can give you give your diabetes and make your teeth
fall out, you know. And we got of course on
the updates. Hey it's Brian Finley. He's a second member

(05:04):
of the Big Three. The Big Three's all up in
here this week, so we are looking forward to hearing
from him. All right, Rob, as I said, I didn't know, man,
I did not know you had the audacity to trash
Sammy Watkins. And for those that don't know, here's what
Sammy Watkins did. He was going to make six correct

(05:25):
me if I'm wrong. Robbie was sixteen million or potentially
up to twe No, yeah, fourteen million could get up
to Basically, I don't know the exact numbers, but he
left about four million dollars on the table. So instead
of making like fourteen, he's gonna make nine. Is somewhere

(05:47):
around there for forty five million dollars on the table.
But he did it because he wanted to win. He said,
I played with bad teams throughout my career. I've been
in for Low where it was just a mess, and
I've been in Kansas City and we won a Super Bowl.
I've made my money. I got a fifty million dollars made.

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He's made like fifty two million dollars over the course
of his career and he's about to make another nine.
It's not like he's playing for chump change. So he said,
I want to stay here and win. I want to
be a part of something big, and so I got love.
I'm fine with that. I don't mind the guy going out.
And if that's what makes you happy, getting every last dime,

(06:32):
so be it. But I what dude that Will is happy,
Like he's happy where he's at and he's still getting
millions of dollars. So I'm cool with that. But but
the chiefs in general, Rob, they're they're doing some things
we all know about. Patrick mahons big deal half a
billy last year and guarantee that's half a billy, right,

(06:58):
It ain't oh yeah, cut three years close? Are they
gonna cut him in three years? I don't know, as
he heard. Did he get hurt, did he break his
leg arm? You don't know that, Chris. Stop stop you
don't know that, and stop stop putting that out there
in the universe too. I'm just telling you that that's
why they have outs. If if it wasn't about that

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they're not gonna cut them, they would have guaranteed the
whole billy. They would have guaranteed it. If they're not
gonna cut him billy, they would have guaranteed at the
half him billy, all right, So that's what they would
have done. But they didn't do that because they didn't
make a commitment to him that he did know. They
didn't note they can get out whatever they want. There's

(07:41):
a new language out there, Rob, It's called guaranteed mechanisms.
You didn't know about that. It ain't guaranteed. Get five
L three is not guaranteed. We stopped Joe five former
agent on yesterday who told us it's essentially guaranteed because
he said they have to guarantee it a year in advance,

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so if they can't just cut him in the offseason,
and hey, you know, they have to guarantee the next
year a year in advance. But that's not the issue.
They also signed their best defensive player to a long
term deal, Chris Jones. He just agreed to a four year,
eighty five million dollar deal, sixty million guarantee. Rob, that's

(08:25):
nice and here's what he said on Twitter about it.
Let's go the dynasty continues, and Rob Parker, Look, I
do think the Kansas City Chiefs are building something special. Special.
I tell you they got a quarterback who's you know,

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wants in a generation type talent and he's already won
an MVP and a Super Bowl in his first two
years as a starter. You've got one of the best
tight ends in the league locked up for a few years,
Travis Kelsey. You've got great receivers locked up for a
few years, Tyreek Hill, McCole Hardman. You just drafted a nice,

(09:10):
nice young running back out of LSU. You got Sammy Watkins.
As we talked about taking less dime to stay on board,
your defense is legit. I mean, man, they got Damian
Williams still there as a running back. They've got Tyron Matthew,
who I love the Honey Badger, love him. And Frank

(09:32):
Clark is still there. I mean for the foreseeable future, Rob,
the Kansas City Chiefs are in line to do something special.
I'm telling you all I'm gonna tell you is I'm
gonna point to the Seattle Seahawks when they won and

(09:52):
they had that great defense, the Legion of Boom, and
everybody thought, whoa wait until you see them with their
dynasty and them reel off these super Bowls because they
had everything in place. They had the quarterback who wasn't
making a lot of money, they were able to sign
all these defensive players. They had it all. And guess

(10:14):
how many Super Bowls they've gotten under the Legion of
Booming Russell Wilson. They got one. They never won again.
So this this don't know, be quiet, okay, don't yeah,
but we're really see I don't even talking about we're
talking about the NFL. We're talking about how teams don't repeat,

(10:36):
how hard it is to win. How Tom Brady went
ten years without winning. He asked sixty. They win ten
years in the row, another year, ten years in the rules,
every other year win ten years. They went ten years
without winning. Go look it up. I know you were
busy watching the NBA, but they went ten years without
winning because you were back watching baseball. They went ten years,

(10:58):
didout win a few watching And the same thing with football.
They didn't know the team don't win every year. It's
a fellas say that, a manicize with the Chiefs. It's
all noise. Oh they're gonna win every year, that's what
they say all the time. You did what every year

(11:20):
they won one? They won one Super Bowl. They got
because the forty Niners choked in the fourth quarter, they
gave up a ten point lead in the fourth quarter.
They choked, and the Chiefs won. And now you're gonna
give them a parade for the next four years. I'm
not on that bandwagon. Stop it. They got a good team.

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There were a lot of good teams in the NFL.
They're a lot of good young quarterbacks, and they don't
have the legion of which one which everybody thought which quarter.
Don't care, dude, I'm telling you, we're telling me the
same way we saw a package go from fifty touchdowns
to twenty six. He might be lucky to throw Super Bowl.
I don't care. I'm talking about his numbers that I'm

(12:04):
talking about. They're figuring him out good, No, they were.
They from fifty top down to twenty seven, twenty seven.
This will be your first record, rob seven or twenty eight.
Enough with the fan boy for Patrick boy, Yeah, that's
what you are. You are Patrick Homes family Efficially, I'll

(12:25):
stop it. The only is you only thing that's every
doll just can do. No, that's you know and pe
super Bowl year just you're just one of those old man,
you're the same people. You're the same guy. Dak Prescott
will be signed before the deadline, and I'm telling you
he's the lead. Which it deal? Chris Buzard, you were wrong?

(12:49):
Is it? Cowboys? The cowboys in wide Over. They're gonna
sign him tomorrow, Chris before they Yes, yes, you know
I'm say I'm talking about you. Yeah, said yes. Meeting
twelve when you saying Tom Brady stopping boy fan boy boy,

(13:13):
you're a fan boy, Aaron Rodgers. This Aaron Rodgers that
had baseball, this baseball that that's the fan boy. I
keeps an objective, that's what I do, and they objectively
looking at it. The Kansas City Chiefs are building something
special period the end. Don't bring up Seattle. But since

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you did, guess what. Yeah, he's going to the Hall
of Fame. But Russell Wilson's not as good as Pat Mahomes.
And yes he's probably going to the Hall of Fame.
But Pete Carroll's not as good as Andy Reid. And
they didn't have their team, the core of their team
locked up for the next several years, like the Chiefs do,

(13:57):
and and and miss reperugi. Cha pasties are trash talking callers.
Oh along, as you keep it, don't don't put words
in my mouth. And then two minutes later you put
words in my mouth. When did I say that? When
in four straight I've said this. At the end of
this contract, twelve years from now, Patrick Mahomes will have

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at least two more Super Bowls. That's it. I say.
He's about to go onto four peat. So you stop it.
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eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox, the lines are open, Chiefs,
are they building a dynasty something special or not? You'll
turn the way in with Chris and Rob. All right,
let's kick it off with Dan in Kansas City. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hi, Chris,
Hi Roberts. I'm going to find me coming in and

(15:46):
talk to you guys. I used to fire you guys
all the time. We were talking to skip on. Yes,
three first Chiefs are going to be a dynasty and
Chris Jones being signed today and also the big contact.
I think the chik win't fight super Bowls. What do
you think, Hey, I think they can. I mean, I'm
not gonna predict five, but look, I think they're building
something special. So good car Man. Hey, Dan, I don't

(16:08):
want to pour water on your parade in Kansas City.
But in the last twenty years, there's been three different
teams where people are saying that they were dynasties k
hold On, k Rogers and the Packers and Russell Wilson,
who was saying Aaron Rodgers each of them, each of
them only won one who said that all I'm telling

(16:29):
you it doesn't work out. It doesn't work out like that,
so remember why sometimes it does it doesn't In the
last twenty did with Troy Hey. Tom Brady went ten
years without winning, and he won six Super Bowls. He
went ten years without when he won six Super Bowls.
It doesn't matter, but he went Aaron Rodgers was gone
ten years without even getting there. You're not. You don't

(16:50):
yell that every show you because you're yelling over me
with your love and I'm a fan boy boy. You
get the calls. It's either Lebron really now, I really
do through doing Mary picking this year. God, his first

(17:13):
year in LA I said they wouldn't make the playoffs.
You jumped over the tap. I picked them make the playoffs.
The chan crazy. We ain't gotten hurt. He would have
made it. No, you wouldn't now when he would helking
into the cause. My goodness, we can. But you've been wrong.
I'll be wrong. Do please, Marty Kentucky, you're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio guys. I just hated

(17:35):
that you call each other fan boys because I think
you're both objective. That's why I love your show that
Fox Sports only they don't have room for any more
fan boys with Nick right there, I mean, come on,
no more, there's no room now on this subject. Um,
I see why I like Chris and and River likes
Rob so much because I'm totally with Chris Rob. Rob

(17:57):
can't stand it. When people take less money to win,
and I love it. I think it's an investment in yourself.
And and River's exact opposite. Yesterday I told him, I said, hey, Rob,
I asked you asked me about to Jordan's and what
size you were, which is a youth thirteen by the way,
And he says well, and and River immediately says, well,
did you tell Rob that I had three shots today?

(18:19):
And I didn't cry? And I'm like, well, what are
you negotiating for? Some holy grails? I mean, so you
know he takes Rob. That's why I liked you, Rob.
He's my man. Watch. He's gonna be down there in
Kentucky with a fresh pair of Jordan's a pretty soon watch.
That's good. That is a nice gesture. I will admit
I love Rivers on this one though. I love these

(18:41):
guys that want to wait. That's all right. It shows contentment,
you know, I don't have to be motivated by realized dying.
My good Tony and DC, you're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's happening, hey, fullis what's going on?
Always good to talk to you guys. Hope you staying
healthy out there in La thanks man, if you get
shut down, yeah, man, Yeah, But it's a it's an

(19:05):
interesting dynamic we have here with Kansas City. I think
that they have a good chance of representing the NFS,
I mean, the AFC quite a few times in the future.
The problem is gonna be who they play in the
NFC that could stop them. I really think an NFC
team that's young, up and coming, like my Cowboys, who are,

(19:26):
by the way, the last great and honest dynasty keyword
honest dynasty in the NFL. Um you have them. You
can't have some good programs if you're playing by the rules,
and that Cowboys great dynasty to play by the rules.

(19:47):
The Cowboys were a dynasty. Period that that they were dynasty.
You got a factor in, you got a factor in
injuries and stuff like that. And you know, but I
think Kansas City has a good chance, oh, for the
next three to four years, probably winning the AFC, probably
three out of four times, three out of five times.

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Something like here's Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes is locked up
for the next twelve years. How many Super Bowls will
they win in that time? Oh? Man, if we locked
back up for twelve probably not the Cowboys, the Patriots
hating you today? Man? You always ask you a question.

(20:29):
Next caller, I ask you a question, that's all. How's
that hate? Ask you a question? Let's go all right,
let's see who we got next here. I'll just let
you have your little fight. I'm just shacking Richmond, Virginia.
Question the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's that got
people rolled up? Rob? What's going on? Right? What's going on? Chris?

(20:51):
What's up are you? I'm doing all right, man, trying
to survive out here in COVID line, that's all, no doubt. Yeah, yeah,
but I don't I'm not sure if they're building the dynasty. Man.
To be honest, the Chiefs are one of those small market,
cheap teams, and they know tourists who don't pay, but
they've their core. I understand, but just understand, like if

(21:13):
I'm my homes, I'm still siding an ideal a little bit. Man,
you get all your money on the back end. I'm
not a proponent of taking less for a chance to
win because there's no guarantee, and I can have a
bad GM moves, could misspend the money, sign the wrong guys,
and you know what, the owner never takes less. The
GM never takes less andy. We doesn't take less. It's

(21:36):
a bogus. They'll build the goods that they that now
you can get rid of salary cake. I'm all with that.
I'll never buy it. Just giving up money, I'll never
I think it's I think it's ridiculous. Well, I mean,
if if if they weren't supposed to take with their work, while,
would you even have a market. But right there is
a market, and you know what they do. Let me

(21:57):
tell you that. I'm motivated by money. Let me. Let
me tell you and so especially when you got dude,
they're filthy rich either way, and shock shack. Let me
tell you this. Here's the other part that nobody ever
brings up. So what happens is you devalue all the
other receivers in the league. Take you take less money.
Do you hear me? You devalue other dude to value everybody? Yes,

(22:20):
it is as a union, you don't want to do that.
That's why that's why the union was scripture. Wouldn't not
let a rod take less money because it was gonna
revalue all the other plays. The praises of baseball against
it does devalue it. He hadn't worried about those guys
he trying to beat it? Does it devalue everybody else?

(22:41):
Did people's shock? You know what I'm saying, You can't
you can't get through the jack keep jack on jack?
Did people the quarterback stop? Did quarterback stop getting paid
when Tom Brady took less? Okay? But but to me,
tom Brady still could have took his market, and I
think they still would have won because okay, and then

(23:04):
they always said that they didn't have Tom Brady did
less more And you know what most people don't have
a wife at home was a supermodel making a zillion
dollars two hundred eighty million zillion dollars. Goodness, But that's
why Tom Brady had to take good check on. You
had to take me much money to go to Tampa Bay,
and he wouldn't go, and he wouldn't stay in New
England for less. That's how much money didn't matter to him.

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(23:50):
good man, we are good. What what? Let's let's get
right to it. Dak Prescott's got what a day left
if that to sign this? Dude? Do you think it's
going to happen or are we done with that? That
bolt is floating. I don't. Look, I don't think it's
going to happen. But I remember going through the process

(24:10):
with Zeke and literally it was, you know, the last
night of Zeke getting finished. The agents didn't sleep, you know,
the cap people didn't sleep. I mean, it was like
trying to figure out exactly what the structure was going
to be and a lot of work got done. In reality,
the Zeke contract got done in twenty four hours. So

(24:32):
could Das get done? Yes? Do I think it's going
to get done? No? I don't. I mean there's been
no indication from either side, you know, having spoken to
both sides yesterday, I didn't see any progress that's been made,
and you know, reaching out to some people today, bets
are definitely on him playing under the tag this year
and likely, frankly, probably trying to get himself the free

(24:56):
agency by the end of twenty twenty one. So I
personally think that with everything falling in his favor, now
unless the team um really just you know exactly everydings
going to the same things. We are all same thing
right now? Is it just the years? The four you know,

(25:18):
DAC wants four years, they want five. H It's well,
it's always been four versus five. But look the Pat
Mahomes deal coming in and being I know it was
ten years. I know the numbers were big, but really
it's a twelve year deal that it was friendly to
the Chiefs because it was not a cat percentage tide
deal like they didn't make that. They had all leveraged

(25:39):
in the world to basically, um put the nails to
the to the Chiefs. And that's what Dak is doing,
you know, at least that's what Dallas feels like. Dak
and Todd Franz are doing to Dallas. They're putting the
nails as much as they can um to squeeze everything out,
and and Dallas is like, look, just give us an
extra year of control. It's not asking you know too much,
and you know it's it is the year's versus the money,

(26:03):
nothing's really changed. And you know, I actually thought when
the Mahomes deal came in, I was like, this makes
the Dack deal less likely to me, because you know,
Dack should be you know, he's sitting there going, look, okay,
this is where the numbers are going. Deshaun Watson is
going to be forty million dollars quarterback. I should be
a forty million dollar quarterback. You know, Um, it's all
the leverages in my favor favor, and the Cowboys are

(26:26):
sitting there going, well, look, Pat Malomes is the best
football player on the planet right now. And he did
not strip outstrip every single thing he could get from
the Chiefs, and he gave them, you know, twelve years
of control over his career and he's a league in
Super Bowl MVP. So it's you have two sides that
are sort of seeing the football world fall the way
they want it, and they can't meet in the middle.

(26:48):
And I unless they are literally getting on the phone
right now and hammering out the finite details, I just
don't see this happening by three o'clock tomorrow. What what
about the idea that you know, Dad can bet on
himself but if you really look at his numbers, especially
after the first year, and then if you look at
last year when they were people picked him to go

(27:10):
to the super Bowl. They got off to a great start.
He beat up on some also ran teams, put up
some numbers, but he didn't play well against the better
teams and the playoff teams. If they have a repeat
of that, you know, and maybe don't make the playoffs.
And Dak's numbers aren't good against good teams. If you're
the Cowboys, you we think that, you know, the long

(27:30):
term deal. There was something in Washington that never made
them feel good about Kirk Cousins, despite drafting him, despite
watching every practice and every snap he ever had, they
never bought in that he even got them to the playoffs,
and they weren't satisfied. Is there a chance that Dad
could play himself out of Dallas? Yeah, well, yeah, absolutely.

(27:52):
I sat in Scott McClellan's office a few years ago
and sat there and Scott McClellan said to me, here's
the arrow and Kirk Cousins, and I remember it. It flat.
He was literally sitting at his desk and he was like,
it's flat, you know, And that's so, that's why we
were sitting where we're sitting, you know, with the money
on Kirk Cousins. The arrow is not up. And and
I sat there and I'm like, Okay, Scott, I'm like,

(28:13):
but if this guy hits free agency, you know, with
the numbers he's putting up, he's gonna be the highest
paid quarterback in the NFL. Gonna happen. He's gonna be
the highest paid player in the NFL when he signed,
and and and no, I mean Scott didn't care. No,
he didn't know. I mean, okay, here's here's the problem
that you have. Jerry has institutional memory. And in Jerry's mind,

(28:33):
he had Romo for that long sustained period of time,
loved Romo, had Aikman, was happy with Aikman. But then
he had that abyss of quarterbacks in between where he
was constantly like, man, I hope Quincy Carter's the guy, man,
it's you know, I hope it's John kitten a man.
It's like he just went through all these different quarterbacks
hoping that someone would surface. And I think for Jerry,

(28:54):
if you asked Jerry why he didn't win a super
Bowl for so long it was because he's like after Troy,
we did not have it flattened out exactly who we
need to identify with a marquee quarterback. And then once
we had Tony in the fold, you know, we just
never figured out how to maximize you know, the team
around him, and we kept failing. And it was coaches
and all these different things. Like I think they sit

(29:17):
there and they look at Dak and they believe in him,
they want to pay him. But the problem is on
the other side of that fence, Dak is sitting there
and going, I could be the highest paid player in
the NFL. Like, I know you guys are gonna laugh
at that, but I'm telling you right now, if Dak
plays through twenty twenty, takes another step. He took a
step last year, Like you can't deny that, takes through

(29:37):
twenty twenty, takes another step, play through twenty twenty one,
takes another step. He will go into free agency after
the twenty twenty one season, and he will be the
highest paid player in the NFL. Because that's what happens
with quarterbacks, That's what happens with the cap, that's what
happens with teams. There will be a desperate team. As
long as Dad keeps taking steps forward, if he is

(29:58):
considered a top eight quarterback, he'll be the highest paid
player in the NFL after the twenty twenty one season.
I guarantee it. Charles Robinson, Yahoo's Sports senior NFL writer,
joining the eye couple. Okay, speaking of big deals, Miles
Garrett of the Cleveland Browns, they're closing in on a
five year, one hundred and twenty five million dollars deal
is being reported highest deal ever for a defensive player.

(30:21):
Are you surprised that, you know, considering what Garrett went
through last year, that he's getting this deal and he's
he worth it. I'm not surprised because had he played
a full sixteen game season, you know, I think you
would have looked at him and he would have been
among the sack leaders in the NFL. And you know,
look what happened in Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh and I was

(30:43):
absolutely regrettable. Obviously not on a great situation. You know,
they've been through it with Miles on that whole thing.
That can ever happen again. But when you look at
the totality of the deal, it's gonna be five years
tacked on to two, so it's really seven years of control. Well,
guess what his apy over seven years is less than
twenty one million dollars. If you can get a Marquee

(31:04):
edge pass rusher a defensive end for less than twenty
one million dollars, who you think's the top five defensive end?
Guess what? That's going to be a cheap deal. It's
gonna be a cheap deal three years from now. And
the reason why I think you see this made Andrew
Berry left Cleveland, the GM of the Browns left Cleveland,
went to Philly and watched Howie Roseman talked to Howie
Roseman up getting ahead of the market. Howie Roseman always

(31:27):
signing guys to big deals, but early and all of
a sudden, how we will have these guys that two
or three years in their deal. People are like, Man,
that deal looks really good right now, Hey, Carson Wentz,
that deal at thirty one thirty two looks pretty good
for a quarterback right now, Fletcher Smith, I mean there's
been a lot of guys, so I think that's what

(31:47):
Andrew Berry is sitting there saying, look this guy, I
can pay him, you know, average it out and pay
twenty one starting you know, just average it out over
the seven years and pay him twenty one, or I
can wait a couple of years and have to start
at twenty five and do a you know, a seven
year deal at that point starting at twenty five. Yeah,
it is surprising. And that's why I'm I'm I mean

(32:09):
what you just said, that's why to me, it would
behoove the Cowboys to get Dak done now, right, because
because I mean, they would that statement, that's a twenty
eighteen statement. That's a that's a that's a statement. Honestly,
they had to get this deal done before last See,
they had to get it done, and the problem was

(32:30):
every single time you went to the table. I remember
there was a point where there was a discussion about
twenty three million, and it was like this is that's nuts,
that's bananas. Then it became twenty five No way, Dak's
a twenty five million dollar quarterback. That's crazy. Then what
happened with all the quarterback numbers? They all went north
like they always do, and he had the first three

(32:50):
games last year and then it was you know what,
you better signed him to the you know, get him
ahead of the Jared Goffield and get this thing done.
They didn't do it. Now, if they could have gone
back in time and gotten him at thirty three before
the season started, I think they're happy right now. But
they didn't. And that's why we're in the world we're
in today. And Pat Mahomes has put it where he
put it, and Deshaun Watson's gonna put it where he

(33:11):
puts it, and it's it's this is only going to
get worse. You're right, they should have signed him, but
they definitely should have gotten it done last off. All right,
that's my Charles Robinson appreciate sports. Thank you, brother, We
appreciate it. Hey, be safe, cross your fingers. We'll see
if this actually starts on time in two weeks. Right,
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All right, Rod. We left off with Charles talking about
this Charles Robinson from Yahoo talking about this Miles Garret
deal five years, one hundred and twenty five million, making
him the highest paid defensive player in the league. You know,

(34:39):
some people are looking at it kind of side eyed
because of obviously the problems he had last year, most
notably hitting Miles Garrett with the helmet. Where are you
add on this? You you cool with this deal or
do you feel like they should have? You know, there's
some red flags there. It's just business as usual in
the NFL. People have done some horrific things and it

(35:03):
doesn't seem to matter. If you can play. They make
a spot for you, Chris, and that to me, that's
where it is. I mean, I don't see them if
if that wasn't enough. Now, I don't know. Maybe if
it cost uh, it cost a player his eye, maybe
people would have looked at it differently, do you know
what I mean? Like if there's no doubt if my

(35:26):
if Rudolph Mason Rudolph had been his eye, yeah, or
if he couldn't play anymore yet, like he would do
you know what I mean, would be playing anymore? That's
what I'm saying, Like, that's how how close it is
to him being like out of the league because he
wasn't seriously hurt despite swinging a helmet, which is a weapon. Chris,

(35:48):
Me and you could have a fight when I go
to my car and get a bat and turn that
turns into a criminal, you know what I mean? You
got a deadly weapon. Now, that's what that helmet was.
He's very fortunate that it was worst damage. But as
long as you can play in the NFL, they seem
to turn the other way. And we've seen, like I said,
people do stuff, So this doesn't surprise me at all.

(36:10):
Nobody's really held accountable. The only time they usually aren't
interested in you, Chris, is when you can't play. No,
You're absolutely right, like I've said it all along, um
Ray Rice, if Ray Rice had done what he did
earlier in his career when he was still you know,
one of the top running the question, no question and

(36:31):
then everything Colin Kaepernick, if he were you know, Russell
Wilson level quarterback when he you know, started kneeling, they
went to the super Bowl. If he did it that year,
you know what I mean in the league, No no
if says or buts about it. You're right, look and
I'm talking. Look, I'm about you know, forgiveness, second chances.

(36:53):
And it's interesting because I think you you've seen the
same things. Rob Miles. Garrett seems like a solid guy,
you know. I mean, he's done a lot of things
and you've seen him and he seemed solid. I mean
that that act was obviously beyond the pale. And like
you said, he is so lucky. I mean, if he

(37:15):
had hit him in the wrong spot with the wrong
could have killed him in the temple Chris right up here,
like you could have killed or somebody would have blow
to the temple. Yeah, I mean, I still don't believe
that you would lose your mind that much to swing
a helmet at somebody. I find that's that's still hard
to believe what I saw. I've been watching football for

(37:35):
a long time. I don't remember seeing that. Yes, I'm
saying in practice. I don't know if anybody said watching
I know I had never seen that. Yeah, I've not
seen that, but I don't know. But yeah, some guy
said in practice, but which probably has happened. But I
don't know that was that was vicious, it was ugly,

(37:56):
and but look, he is a great player. And like
you said, Rob, this league it's all about what you
do on the field. And I thought Charles made a
great point, Rob, and this this is Myles Garrett or
anybody for that matter. He's right about getting out in
front of the market. I mean we talked about Dak
and you know, whatever happens tomorrow, I mean, they still

(38:18):
got to pay him thirty one almost thirty two million
this year, Chris and thirty eight. No commitment to your God,
that's that's my issue. That's fine. But what I'm saying
is I remember being on shows and talking about man.
I wouldn't I wouldn't give Dak high twenties, you know,

(38:41):
twenty seven, twenty eight million a year, and the market
just grows and grows and grows, and then so he's right.
If the Cowboys had gotten out in front of this
and signed Dak in the past for twenty seven million,
people would have thought it was crazy at the time.
But look at it now. You know reason well, but

(39:04):
there's some reason that they don't do it. And that's
that's the partner. The Cowboys never do it well, but
they always do it. We overpays everybody, all right, he's
over but he's overpaid everybody. So what all of a
sudden is this whole of not paying Dak. But you
know what, you don't get him. The report Rob they're
offering him five years. I don't. I don't believe it.

(39:25):
There's something that doesn't you know, but the reporters are
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(40:31):
let us get into college football. Not NFL. Interesting story
really uh maybe sad story on Yahoo Sports written by
people maybe reality, you know, right right right, just straight reality.
In fact, that's part of the title. It's called time
to Face Reality. No one is playing college football in

(40:53):
the fall. And they quote several coaches, Rob from the
Power five teams and conferences who are just pessimistic, um
to the tenth degree. But but they But I get why, Chris,
when you can't get the student body on campus, just

(41:15):
just think about that. Seriously, I teach at USC, Chris,
They've already I'm not teaching in a classroom come September,
I'm doing online. They've already just even if kids are
on campus, they're doing a lot of it or most
of it online. Well, because because the thing is this ROB,
it's not in any way, shape or form like the

(41:37):
professional sports, right because I mean, first of all, you
can't put we see it. Even with the NFL, you
can't put that many players in a bubble. It doesn't
seem and you certainly can't do it in college. And
and it's different because you're not separating Chris. The kids
on the team are college students. So if you're saying

(42:00):
that it's not safe for the kids to be on campus,
how could it be safe for the football players to
be on camp? I mean, that's just right elementary, right right, Nah,
you're right, just elementary. And some the coaches see through it.
Here here's one one coach said this, a Power five coach, anonymous.

(42:20):
I cringe when I hear administrators saying that the health
and safety of the student athletes is first and foremost. No,
it's not. If it was, you would have already punted
the season. And that's true. Now you see ROB the
IVY League and I believe it's the Patriot League because
of money. They they've already pulled out, right, No, why Chris,

(42:43):
They don't make money for their school's off of athletic Right,
that's easy to pull the plug. There's no big money.
They gotta return to NBC or ESPN. They don't have
to do that, it's right. I mean, let's just be honest.
They're there's no doubt that this is about money. And
I gotta admit, Rob, I'm very pessimistic. Like you said,

(43:06):
these kids live on campus. They're not they're the student
body that they're not going to be in, you know,
coming into contact with other students. And here's the other thing, right,
they're unpaid, so you you know, because look, let's look
at the NBA. Are the players taking a bit of
a risk by going and play. Yes, But here's the thing.

(43:28):
At least, right, they're getting paid. And the players are
willing to do it because they know if we don't play,
the salary cap is going to tumble next year and
our future earnings will be a lot less. So they're
willing to make that decision and take that risk, most
of them. But you can't ask a college kid who's
not being paid to take that kind of a risk.

(43:50):
You just can't know. And and and it's it's selfishness
on and you and I. Look, we've said it before.
We make our living in sports we want to see,
and college football is among the most exciting sports that
we have. There's no doubt about it. It's it's you know,
it draws as much tension attention as any other sport.

(44:14):
And yet I just don't know how you're gonna put
these kids in harms way like that. And here's the
thing too, is we've seen obviously and thankfully most of
the athletes who've gotten it, you know, they've gotten over
it and they seem fine in a few weeks. But
we don't know everything about this disease. And now you

(44:35):
got people talking about it's impacting the lungs right like,
it could impact the lungs long term. You're fatigue, your
stammina long term. So we gotta stop playing around. And
this goes for everybody, Rob, we gotta stop playing around.
It's now up to what seventy thousand cases? Remember a

(44:57):
week ago, was that like forty and you know nationally
forty thousand and Fouchi Anthony Fauci. The doctor said we
could get up to one hundred, and it seemed like, man,
that's a heck of a jump. It's already up to
seventy reportedly. So and I you know, like I said, man,
you just don't know. I was reading something today about

(45:18):
a forty six year old man who died from it.
So you you just can't. And like you said, these players,
you're talking about coaches as well, older coaches. You're talking
about professors on campus. You know, it's just this college
is a whole different ball game. It's it's a community
up to it, you know, to itself, Chris. And you

(45:39):
know there's a responsibility to buy by the by the college, Chris.
If you if you put kids in harm's way and
God forbids, something horrible happens. What's gonna happen? How come
you had classes? How come you brought kids back? Do
you know what I mean? Like, then it'll be and
you know what they would you know, they probably have

(46:00):
to do to get these kids to play rob sign
away And that's the only way before a college athlete.
That's a whole different ask. That's something that parents would
have to be Like, I don't know, if we really
could can make that happen, or if this is something
that we really want to do. Just given the uncertainty

(46:22):
of it, we all wish that everything is going to
start on time. Uh and and they'll be a season.
But the only thing that makes me like, I'm I
think the baseball is gonna start, Chris a week from Friday.
I believe that. I think the NBA is gonna start. Yeah,
I believe that two weeks from Friday. And the only

(46:44):
reason that college is different is because of the campus
setting and because you're not allowing the student body to
come back. That's the only reason why I question college football. No,
I hear you, And there's too many kids, like baseball
and any of the pro sports, is a limited finite

(47:06):
number of players or are you gonna say, well, the SEC,
the Big ten, you know, the Power five conferences can play,
but not the mid majors, you know how you you
and then we put them in a bubble or something.
You can't put these kids in a bubble. They're playing
for free, okay, scholarship. You can't put them in a bubble.

(47:26):
And even the nature of the sport rob baseball, I
get it. They are a little. What's it surprising to me?
But it's hoppening you. You may have talked to people too.
I have friends whose sons are playing baseball right now,
my god's son playing. One is in Georgia and one

(47:47):
is in New York. They're playing ball. They're playing baseball.
So it's it's but that you know, you you can
to some degree, some degree socially distance in baseball, right
other than first base, Chris, and where you have to
put your catching the battle, catching the battle. Other than that,
you're not next to anybody right right, if you're one
of the bases, you're playing right field, you're playing third base,

(48:10):
you really don't have any interaction with people. Ye, So
then basketball is a smaller. We're talking about three hundred
and twenty some od players, you know, all a number
for the NBA. Yeah, and it's not even that many
because when you you've eliminated eight teams already, right, Well,
that's what that's what I mean. It would yeah. Yeah.
But but the other thing is, if you read the article,

(48:31):
it talks about one one age. I'm not sure if
it was an ad or coach, but he said that
everything's on the table. He said, what they might try
to keep pushing stuff back to see if you know,
something breaks and and there's some type of you know,
the surge goes down, whatever you want to call it.

(48:52):
But one this guy mentioned, They said some people might
want to try to play four games in the fall
and then like six in the spring to get their
ten games. And look what you're talking about. What you're
talking about, willis what? Right? It's that because here's the thing.
I know that in the NBA, we're essentially doing that, right,

(49:13):
they played you know what, sixty five games and now
they've had this four month break and we're gonna continue
the season. But there's a few differences. One, we didn't
start it off that being the plan. Right, this is
just trying to make, you know, make the best out
of a bad situation. To go into it thinking we're

(49:34):
gonna play four games in the fall and have what
a four month break, five month break, and then play
six games in the same season in the spring. That
does not sound appealing to me in the least bit. Rob,
I don't want to see that. I already think the
break between you know, the last regular season game and

(49:57):
the National Championship or the biggest ball games is too long.
You're talking about fifties my days. In some cases, I
don't want to go four months. Oh yeah, they were
three and one in the fall, so now they pick
up from there. I can't even fathom that. Yeah, that's
a lot, and it's not what we're used to. So
I just don't know how this is gonna play out.

(50:19):
I really don't. That story was a little, uh, what's
the right world? Sobering? Yeah, it was sobering to think
that that this is because of where we are in college,
not so much the NFL. We've already seen what they've
done in the Hall of Fame game is tossed to
the side, the right, A couple of the preseason games

(50:40):
have already been tossed to the side. We're already seeing
like if everything was full, don't forget. We're in July.
Trading camp. Crits is mult to start pretty soon, right right,
right now, trading camp. And normally you have the month
of August for the for the games, right yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

(51:00):
it could get the season starts in September, so ready
pushed back to but and and look, obviously some of
these athletic departments rob they're about to lose major money
because football only two sports essentially make the money, right,
football and basketball, and obviously football makes you know, the bulk.
I mean, you got March madness for basketball, but that

(51:24):
is going. That's something these athletic departments are looking at
as well. But it is what it is, man, And
you you know, I feel most bad for are the kids.
The kids, because you know, some of these kids are like,
you know, they got they got the pros on their mind.
And you know, even high school kids. I mean, what
happens with high school sports? You know, if you you

(51:46):
you had designs on getting the college scholarship, but look
they're already made different world. Parents paid Chris for high
school sports like you know some places. But money's right.
You got to pay to play, right, And if you
don't have the money, can't play for whatever uniforms and
and uh you know, and and uh to help pay
the coach or whatever it is. So imagine you're right,

(52:09):
the trickle down and how much is hurting? Well thing?
And speaking of pay to play, it was said in
this story because because Pete Thammel he talked to some
people in the NFL as well, and he mentioned that
in his article. He said there's even a growing pessimism
among NFL people. And here's here's uh, what is really yeah,

(52:31):
he said, And here's the interesting thing, he said, The
most interesting development in calls this weekend NFL casts was
the rampant uptick of pessimism in NFL circles about the
season as there are increasing obstacles for that league to
play football this fall. Now here's the interesting thing he says.

(52:51):
He says. One high ranking NFL team official pointed this
out to him. Players that have guaranteed money, ROB, if
they play one regular season game this year, they get
their entire salary. So if you, let's say you play
two games and they had to cancel the season, a

(53:13):
guy making thirty million a year still gets that thirty million.
Is that right? That's what this says. It says in
this story, And here's the quote. The NFL has held
been on plane. But I just know how it works
functionality wise, based on health risks and financial structure. It's
hard to see how it's going to it's all going
to happen. So I you know, I all I'm trying

(53:36):
to do, ROB is follow the doctors and the epidemiologist. No, right,
that's all you can do. We're just guessing. Anything else
coming out of our mouths, just a guess because we
don't know, Chris, We really don't. So I think people
have to be honest with it and and and leave
it in the hands of the people and the science

(53:58):
and the medical people. This is what they do, right.
They want to know about sports, they come to us, right, right.
If we want to know about science and medical, we
go to them. It's so insulting to act like they
don't know what they're talking, right, that's what they do that.
You got people on the radio like us saying, these
doctors don't know what they're talking about. Really, okay, where's

(54:22):
your degree, where's your medical degree? I think it's crazy
when people try that. That's like everybody who goes has
some ailment, they go on the internet and google it
and they can diagnose themselves. Chris, That's really what it is. Absolutely,
And look, right, what we've we have thumbed our nose.
Let's just keep it real, all of us as Americans,

(54:44):
we have thumbed our noses at COVID nineteen right, we've said, no,
you're not stopping the party, You're not stopping anything. And
what's happened a surge, and now a lot of those
states that thumb their noses at it, they're now having
it worse than anybody else. Rob, and so we got

(55:07):
to show a little bit of discipline and you know,
try to get through this thing. So we're gonna throw
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the fall? And do you think it's worth it to

(55:27):
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(56:11):
to the callers eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Man,
what's gonna happen with college football? It'll be a good one.
How about Mark and Sacramento will kick it off? There?
You're on the eye a couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up? Mark? What's going on? Gentlemen? What's up? Man?
First of all, I didn't food pooh this. I kind

(56:31):
of took it serious and I kept an eye on it,
but I always thought it was gonna be a problem.
And uh, I think they're going to cancel college football,
and I think that's gonna be the gage to what
happens from that point forward, including in the NBA. Hey, Chris,
but don't you think there? Don't you think Mark? And
keep Mark on. There are some obstacles though that college

(56:52):
football has that the other the pro sports don't have.
So I think that especially basketball and baseball, without a doubt.
And here's those things. Half these kids don't believe it.
That's how I got passed in the first place. Right,
the Joshi didn't believe it. So how what do you
do about the ones who don't believe it and and
want to not have a mask or want to you know,

(57:13):
I'm just saying, these kids don't believe it, that's half
the problem. They're the ones who's passing it. Now, it's
it's a mass. We saw it once they opened up.
Remember they dropped restrictions, and all these kids were partying
and all kinds of crate. Remember that in Florida the
video was outrageous. Well supposedly they're having COVID nineteen parties
trying to get it, trying to get out there. California too.

(57:36):
Out here in California tragedy, you know, because you know
these kids. I mean, it's not just kids, it's you know,
that's other places too. But thanks matt to take it seriously,
appreciate it. How about Matthew and Las Vegas. You're in
the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Matthew? Hey,
what's up? I love you guys show. I'm a professional

(57:59):
in Vegas and I just wanted to say that what
you said for people turning their noses up to COVID true, Um,
I can't see that. We thought the heat was gonna
kill the COVID like it the flu. But it is
not doing that, and so I think it's gonna be
here for a while. So um, unless people uh step

(58:23):
it up, you know, we're not gonna be able to
turn the curve. And I think it's gonna hurt colleges
and fours in general. Rob one difference between us and
some of the nations where it's you know, it's not
nearly as bad is they went in the real shutdowns. Yeah,
we we didn't really go. I mean even at our

(58:45):
New York shutdown, pretty good. Clomo was, he was in
pretty good charge, Andrew Clomo. And the same thing out
here in California. I mean they were I think did
they open to early out there because your governor did
a good job, Gavin Newson. But Gavin Newson did a
good job, I really yeah, early on, and California had
better numbers than some other places, and you know, for

(59:06):
a big state and so many people in northern California,
wasn't bad. Yeah, she did a good job too in
San Francisco, especially in Oakland, that whole area. Yeah, it's
it's crazy. Thanks for that call to Matthew, and thanks
for your service. Jamal in New York. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? How you
doing that, Robin christ Man? Um, this is crazy and um,

(59:30):
I can't believe that they actually want to have a
college football season when every governor, every mayor is shutting
down classes for the kids to go to school. Do
you want these kids to cod but the universities are
getting paid. That's a problem. You're right, it's good, but
you want to you want to get in today in life,

(59:51):
and then you want to like find them if if
if one of their family members send them money improperly
or something like that. When you want them to go
out there and risk their life, they can't get paid,
and you know, it's just like a bad situation when
it comes to guy, I think they should just shut
it down. They should have just been shut it down. Man.
You know, everybody got to take the walls. Everyone in
the world taking the wall, right people that, Yeah, I

(01:00:14):
appreciate it. I mean the hypocrisy is a front and
center right now, rob front and we always have talked
about these kids should be getting paid something. But now
now you're asking them, but you're asking them to work
when the rest of the student body can't come on campus,
but we want you to come to football exactly facility, Chris,

(01:00:35):
and work out and play in the game. And let
me ask, let's I want to throw this out. I mean,
we got some callers lined up, Yeah, we got because
fans want to see these guys play too. And I'm like,
are any of you fans like? Man, just put them
out there. I gotta see it. I need a distraction.
I need some entertainment because I don't like that. I mean,
as much as I want to see college football, I
don't think these guys should put their health on the

(01:00:56):
line like that just for our entertainment. Ham in New Jersey,
you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Ham?
What's happening? Guys? Uh? I think there will be college football.
I just don't think that every every state is going
to participate. I think there's some governors that are more
lenient than others, especially on the right, that they want

(01:01:20):
their football, especially the states that don't have pro teams. Now.
I also think that you saw what was it today
or yesterday? The VP Mike Pence. He said that they
shouldn't use the CDC as a guidance on whether or
not to reopen schools. So every step of it, it's look, look,

(01:01:43):
you're right, this has become so political. It's become political.
You know, you don't you don't know who. I gotta
be honest, I don't. You don't know who to believe.
I'm just trying to believe that when when did this
become a thing, Chris, where people who don't wear masks
over public aikin and people who wear masks or Democrats?

(01:02:03):
Is that really where we are? Well seriously, I'm not
saying yeah, that's the way. It seems like it's shaken down.
Like people who on the Republican side door and then
Trump the time, you don't see that. Yeah, yeah, but
you're right, Rob, If you're on the right, you you
don't believe, you know, they think it's a hoax, they

(01:02:25):
think it's not real, it's a conspiracy. If you're on
the left, you think it's the worst thing in the world.
And I'm not either left or right, but I'm just like,
it's hard to know who to believe. So I'm just
trying to say, Look, this dude is a doctor, this
dude is an expert. We have that you gotta believe somebody, right, exactly,

(01:02:46):
everything we do. We have to believe somebody. We have
to believe Chris won't be food met me at the
at the supermarket that has been taken care of. Right,
it's fresh. You're not gonna make me right, you believe
they didn't drive on the floor. Yeah, I mean we
if we're getting to a point where there is just

(01:03:07):
no standard, where you don't you can't believe anything. It
is all based on your politics. Right, We're in deep trouble.
We're in trouble. Yeah, it's uh, all right, that's uh,
it's it's gonna be interesting political moment for a and
I think people know we're right. It's you know, we
ain't trying to get political. I don't care, that's what whatever,

(01:03:29):
But yes, that's what it truly is. If I watch
CNN or MSNBC, I got one I've got one thought, right,
If I watch Fox, I got a whole another thought.
It's just hard to know what in the world to believe,
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(01:03:51):
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and The iHeart radio app. Rob. This is what trash
talking in Tuesday. That's right, it is a trash talking Tuesday.
You be able to call in about an hour. We

(01:04:12):
say that because it's you gotta line up because people,
the trash talk is getting better and better, Rob, and
it's already to get in it. Yep, it's hard to
get in. We always get guys that are left on
the line, unfortunately. But call in in about an hour
you'll be able to trash anyone or anything in the
world of sports. So come correct, because some guys are

(01:04:33):
putting a lot of work into this. And uh so
come correct and you'll have your your moment in the sun.
But uh we we're waiting on Randy Mueller, former NFL
Executive Executive of the Year CEO of mueller football dot Com.
But uh Rob Odell Beckham has some interesting comments. Why

(01:04:55):
while we wait on Mueller, here's some interesting comments about
how he's done being humble and all right, we'll get
to that later because Randy is on the line. Let's
welcome in former NFL Executive of the Year, Randy Mueller. Randy,
welcome to what's happening? Hey, key, how how you holding up?

(01:05:17):
We're doing well. We're doing well, and I know the
NFL is your forte obviously, but we were just talking
about how the their reports that college football is in
major jeopardy of not playing. What are your thoughts on that,
and do you think you know that we could not
have a college season but still have an NFL season.

(01:05:39):
It's an interesting topic, obviously, it has everybody's head spending
a little bit. I have in the back of my
mind thought that there's a chance, and again I don't
have any insight information thought there was a chance that
college ball could get moved to the spring. So I've
been kind of brainstorm He's trying to figure out why
can't that happen? And I think Lincoln Riley said at first,
if there's a will, there's a way. I don't really

(01:06:00):
think it affects the pro end at all. I do
know colleges have to fill stadiums to make their business
model work, not quite the same for the NFL. So
it's two different you know, tapples and oranges. I think
they could both exist. Again, I think if there's a will,
TV partners and everybody involved, there's probably a way to
figure it all out. But Mandy, the only problem with

(01:06:21):
college football is it's hard to justify college football. If
the kids want to let the student the general student
bodies not allowed on campus. You're saying it's too dangerous
for them. How can you allow the football players on?
Do you know what I mean? Well, I understand that,
and I agree with it, And I'm saying, if the
college has moved to the spring, I think the hope

(01:06:43):
is that they would be able to have students back
in next Okay, So yeah, once kids are allowed on campus,
I'm with you, then then you could have college football.
But to try to force them on campus and tell
the other kids to stay home. If I'm a parent,
I would I would. I wouldn't like that that That
doesn't sound right. Yeah, I agree with you. I think
that's gonna that will be met with resistance, without a doubt,

(01:07:07):
because these kids are trying to get an education first
and foremost, and that still, even though it's a business,
still has to have to be at the forefront of
all these decisions. Randy, let's get to the NFL. And
and before you came on, I brought it up Odell
Beckham Junior. You know he's talked about how He just
said recently that being humble, you know people, she's done

(01:07:30):
with that. That's why he got the blind hair coming back,
and he's talking about he's gonna kill it this year.
Should the Cleveland Browns like this and feel like, Okay,
we got our man. He's gonna be He's gonna be
on fire this year, or should they be a little
bit scared with what Odell with the talking he's doing now,
hasn't this tactic played Chris already? Didn't we go through

(01:07:51):
this last year? Well, I was gonna say where. I
don't remember that humble phase that went through, but I
remember talking a big game last year and they didn't
make the playoffs and he had a terrible year. Yeah,
I don't think there's going to be fear throughout the
league because he has the yellow hair. You know. I
don't think that's gonna do it. I do think that again,

(01:08:13):
and everybody does things their own way. I think the
best thing the Browns can do is just hush up
and play. You know, they don't need they don't need
the targets on their back. They played that game last
year and it didn't work out too good. There's a
lot of guys in Cleveland that are playing for their
jobs and playing for their livelihoods, including his quarterback and
everybody else. They're trying to play for status of their own,

(01:08:34):
so they don't need to go out and brag about
what they're going to do. I think their actions are
going to speak louder than any words at this point, Randy,
what what what happened in Dallas? I mean, obviously in
the NFL, if you can get a franchise quarterback and
it's your guy and you believe in him, you want
to make him happy. All the other quarterbacks and Dax
draft class have all been paid Wins and Jared Golf

(01:08:59):
and they all got they're big contracts. And is it
Something just doesn't seem right that the Cowboys of hell
bent that he has to take a five year deal
instead of a four year deal. The longer day way
if they do sign him, is going to cost him
more money. What's going on here? Because it doesn't look
like there's going to be a deal by by three
o'clock tomorrow where the Cowboys and Dak Prescott signed on

(01:09:23):
a dotted line. I'll be honest with you, I think
it all started last year because I think they screwed
it up a year ago. I remember saying at the
time they should sign Dak first, before they sign the
running back, before they signed the receiver, before they do anything.
Get him locked up, much like Kansas City did with Mahomes.
Get Dak locked up. If you love him, he's your guy.
What do they say, love the one you're with. Maybe

(01:09:44):
he's not perfect, but sign him up. And I thought
they should have done that first and foremost. Now all
we've got his hurdles and reasons to not make a
deal really from both sides. But I understand from Dak
side he's got some ammunition. Now. I just I think
the whole thing has been handled orly, and I think
at some point it probably does carry into the locker
room because the message that sense is Dak's our guy,

(01:10:07):
but no, we're gonna date some more. We're not going
to you know. I just I don't like that message
at all, not if he's your guy. If he's your guy,
they should have signed him. I just don't get it,
don't doubt about it. And they're gonna have to pay
a premium now to probably make it happen. It's gonna
end up costing them way more than it would have
if they have signed him a year ago. Randy the Chief,
speaking of signing guys, they just we all know about

(01:10:28):
the Mahomes deal. We know Sammy Watkins took less money
to stay there. Chris Jones now has a four year,
eighty five million dollar deal. They feel like, I mean,
Jones said it, let's go, the dynasty continues? Is it?
What he tweeted after signing his contract. Do you think
they're on the verge of something special and being a
group that can win multiple maybe not multi two or

(01:10:52):
you know, one or two more Super Bowls without a doubt.
They have all the ingredients and it's proved doubt. I mean,
they've got a coach that is inventive in his offensive scheme.
They've got what I consider the best player in the
league now signed up in Pat Mahomes, and at a
cap number that they can plan the rest of their
team around. That's the key is that the cap number
now on Mahomes's deal is low these first three years,

(01:11:14):
and long term in the NFL nowadays is three years.
Let's face it. So yes, I believe they do. They'll
be the favorites this year. They're going to be the
favorites in the next four or five years early. But
from a cap standpoint, they can now secure some talent
and build some people around around Mahomes, around Chris Jones.
There's always going to be moving parts, and that's why
the decision makers get paid. But they get paid too.

(01:11:36):
You're never gonna be able to lock everybody in. But
I think they've made a great business decision in getting
Chris Jones locked up. Defensive lineman hard to find. You
don't want to let them out the door. Last thing
for me, did Mahomes make a mistake not getting all
I'm not sin it had to be ten years or
twelve years, but to not he was in position to
get a fully guaranteed contract. The chiefs had no choice.

(01:12:00):
He had all the leverage. I was shocked at at
what Lee Steinberg and those guys did with that contract,
which really left a lot of guaranteed money on the table.
His first three years, he's making the same money that
Teddy Bridgewater and Ryan Tannehild is making. Yeah, I think
there's probably a little meat on the bone left, There's

(01:12:21):
no doubt about it. But to his credit, he's and
he said it, hat said it early on he said,
I want to build a dynasty. I want other players,
and he understands that. I think where it gets interesting
is after the COVID passes by, and let's hope that
happens soon, the cap is probably going to go down
unless they can come up with some type of formula
that borrows against future years. So Randy, I'm glad you.

(01:12:43):
I'm glad you said that because everybody's talking about how, oh,
the cap is definitely going up, going up, and I
get it maybe in the future that you know what,
years from now, but I'm with you that because of COVID,
it's probably going down. Just like all the leagues, it
has to go down. In this sense, the salary cap
for the NFL players, it's all determined by the prior

(01:13:05):
year's revenues. Where do you think they're going to be.
They're going to be reduced by thirty forty percent for sure.
So they've got to find some mechanisms, the players in
the league to come together to create a model that
doesn't have it drop thirty to forty percent. Otherwise we're
gonna have four or five good players on each team
and everybody else is gonna be minimum salary for next
year and the year after. That's not good for business.

(01:13:25):
It's not good for the teams, it's not good for
the players, it's not good for the public and the fans.
So they've got to come to agreement on some kind
of deal that curbs the losses in the form of
a salary cap going down. That's just not good. All right.
There you have it, the voice of Randy Mueller, former
NFL Executive of the Year and the CEO of mueller

(01:13:45):
Football dot Com. Randy, thanks for your times, buddy, appreciate
you always. Guys. Yep. See if shop Talk is coming up,
keep it locked. Odd Couple, Chris and Rob. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris
Bruce Sorry then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart

(01:14:07):
Radio app. I'll tell you what, Rob. Don Brown has
a wide variety of albums. Stones right here, Yeah, yeah,
Don Brown, What do you know about the Stones? I
like the man. He's too young. Yeah, he don't know
nothing about the Stone but that's all right. They're classic, man.

(01:14:29):
You can come on, Jagger. It's a great singer. Mick
Jack giving him sing without the studio Chris on Live
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works fast and you will not smell, stink or any
of that. All right, rob um, speaking of stinking, I
look I like a Crispy cream donut as much as
the next guy. Wait minute, what a B is a
shop talk? Time? Yes, it's shop talk, Jump right into it.

(01:15:33):
I know. I'm sorry, it's shop talking. I got a
lot going on here, man. I yes, because you're watching television.
I could see you. Can you turn that off? Y?
You are look at me? The TVs are always on,
you know, look at me when we're in the our
studio I got a little studio, so I got attention

(01:15:55):
to what's going on up in here. But anyway, we
are going to talk about for shop talk. Uh. They
gave away krispy Kreme donuts. You you might be explained
it better than me. I'm gonna give the headline and
you explain it right because you this was your idea.
The headline is We're doomed. Large crowd spotted queuing for

(01:16:18):
free donuts at Krispy Kream. This was in Australia and
for some it was celebrating the companies eighty third birthday Chris,
And this is in Sydney, Australia. I've been down under.
I've been in a beautiful place Sydney. Have you ever been, well,
I haven't. But the eye couple is large down Under.

(01:16:40):
That's right, right. But for some reason, Chris, during a pandemic,
is this the time to be giving out free donuts
and having people on top of each other trying to
get their free chrispy Kreme? You remember when chrispy Kreme
first started, Chris, and it became national because I think
it's from down south, somewhere right North Carolina or somewhere else.

(01:17:01):
It's you when when it became national, people were lined up.
You remember how crazy people are going for for these
donuts that are hot right off the grease and the
and the glaze and all that. Trust me, they're like,
they're like melting your mouth. I was eating them. Everybody's
putting on Chris. You still have that pesky ten pounds

(01:17:22):
you can't get rid of from those days. Certainly not
with Krispy Kreme donuts. That's sure. I mean it's delicious,
you're right, but it's just the right time. Seriously, that
for a donut giveaway. I get it, it's the birthday
of the company, Chris, but maybe this isn't the time
to do it. You're putting people at jeopardy. I'm gonna
ask you this, though, Rob, and I get it. I

(01:17:44):
agree with you. If let's say you had not had wings,
chicken wings of any sort, okay, and there's a buffalo
wild wings down the street from you, and they do
they're giving away free wings during in COVID nineteen, would
you line up to go get wings? Truth? Truth? As

(01:18:07):
much as I love wings, Chris, I would not get
into a big line for wings. Would that? How much
of that has to do with your age, Like if you,
let's say you were twenty, would you do if twenty,
I'd be dumb and probably would be in line for
free wings. But obviously my maturity not just isn't the
maturity or just the health. And I'm seriously, you know

(01:18:28):
we're the maturity. I'm just vulnerable. I'm just not standing
in line for wings with a million people. All right,
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(01:18:50):
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(01:19:13):
and Girl podcast on iHeartRadio. And she's really on top
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this Cowboys situation with Dak Prescott. So great time. To
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the bottom of the hour, and then of course after Jane.
It is what trash talking two day. You can call

(01:19:40):
eight seven seven ninety nine or Fox eight seven seven
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or including one of the Eye Couple, if you so choose.
So get your takes ready, come correct, and it's your

(01:20:01):
time to shine. And speaking of shine, Rob, they we heard.
I know you disagree, but we heard Randy Mueller. You've
heard me. I think the Kansas City Chiefs are set
up for something special and they think it too. Now
they we know. They signed Patrick Mahomes. He blessed them

(01:20:24):
with a team friendly deal that allowed them to keep
a lot of their players and have room to sign
guys in the future. Sammy Watkins is taking less money
to stay around and try to win more rings. And
Chris Jones just got done four years, eighty five million dollars.
He's one of the top defensive tackles in all of football.

(01:20:46):
And here's what he tweeted Rob when after he signed
this deal. He said, let's go the dynasty continues. Every
one of these guys Mahomes talked about, I want to
try to win at least six rings. Like Tom Brady
talking about what dynasty, the dynasty continues. They're not even
in a dynasty. Well it's what he believes. No, but

(01:21:07):
it's it's incorrect. There's no such thing. The Chiefs don't
have a dynasty. They won one super Bowl. There's no
dynasty going. The dynasty continues. If he would have won
three super Bowls in a row, then he could have tweeted, Yeah,
the dynasty continues. We still got this thing together. We're
gonna win four. We're gonna win four out of five.
Whatever it is, there's no dynasty in Kansas City is ridiculous.

(01:21:31):
There's there's yet, there is no no dynasty. It's not
about yet. There's no dynasts yet. They this is a
team that is lined up to do something special. There's
no dynasty in Knast give you right now. Of course,
the one championship, there's not a dynasty. Make you will
get no argument from me there. But I am saying

(01:21:52):
that this team is lined up to do something special.
They're gonna win multiple I'm putting it out there. I've
said it before. They're gonna win multiple super Bowls, Bowls.
They're going to win multiple super Bowls. Now, you can
sit here and and not predict anything until it happens
if you want. But I've seen enough. I've seen enough,

(01:22:15):
and don't give me this all. You're an NBA writer.
You don't watch football. First of all, you don't know
what I watched. Secondly, I watched pretty much a ton
of football, and football is my favorite sport. More because
it's your favorite sport doesn't mean you know about it. No,
but I do know about it because I'm just saying
that's that line. I love talking about that logic, that logic.

(01:22:36):
That's your favorite spot. If you want to try every
time you get jammed up in the corner, you want
to say what you just know? NBA. No, you don't
know what. I didn't say that. I'm a sports writer.
I was a sports writer and now i'm a sports broadcaster.
How many football games have you covered for? How many
football games have you covered covered? Probably about five? Okay,

(01:22:58):
I covered the Lions for twenty years on the road
and home. No, that's I'm just saying. But I'm just
saying that don't mean because I'm only covered five games.
I'm saying my main thing has been covering the NBA.
I covered more Baseball's baseball. I covered second. I was
with the Cleveland Indians in ninety five when they went
to the World Series. I've done some Yankee, some Mets,

(01:23:20):
you know, And like I said, I've done a little
bit of football. But I follow it. I read about it,
I study it. There's some people I talk to about
it in the league. So i feel very confident in
talking about football. And I'm going off what I see,
and I see a team that is capable of doing
something special. That's what I see, and so I don't

(01:23:43):
I don't mind. I'm not afraid to go out there
and make a prediction. No, because you said the Cowboys
are going to the Super Bowl. Well you said really,
I don't want to be really. You said the Chargers
are gonna make the Super Nice, But the two big
picks you made last can we gonna I'm I'm not

(01:24:05):
being childish. We're talking about the Kansas City Chiefs and
you've made wrong predictions. I've made wrong predictions. You know
you're gonna go tit for tat with that? Fine? But
I'm talking about the Kansas City Chiefs, and I think
they can do something special. That's all I'm saying. If
you don't think they can do something special, say it.
But saying this premature, so don't make any predictions. I'm

(01:24:26):
just gonna buy the history of the of the NFL,
and I'm going by the history of the NFL. The
last twenty years are gone. Tom Brady went ten years.
Tom Brady went ten years without winning a super Bowl.
He's supposed to ly the gold. Chris explained to me
how he's the gold. He took less money, they built
their team up, they had money to sign other people. Yeah,

(01:24:48):
they didn't win a super Bowl for a decade. Tell
me how. Okay, you're gonna let me tell me. All right,
let me talk. He's the goat because he won six
chance upon ships. Okay, so he had a ten years stretch,
he didn't win it. Aaron Rodgers has had a ten
years stretch. Why he didn't even get to the super
Bowl and Aaron Rodgers didn't that's your answer everything, Prisiness.

(01:25:12):
Answer the question about the Patriots and Tom Brady. I
know what he's told about Aaron Rodgers. Just answer the question,
if you are you gonna be quiet while I talk
Aaron Rodgers ten years, doesn't even get to a super Bowl,
no bookends. Yeah, Tom Brady went ten years without winning

(01:25:33):
a Super Bowl, got to two during that stretch, and
now has bookended each of it. That was that ten
years with three super Bowls on the bookends, He's one
more super Bowls than any other quarterback. He's won more
Super Bowls or as many Super Bowls as any other
franchise in history. That's why everybody on planet Earth except

(01:25:58):
Rob Parker says he's a goal. Is that enough for you?
And his numbers are good? Question? I didn't answer my question.
Didn't answer my question. What was your question? My question
me if that was a go that's not I asked you.
Tell me that the Patriots were set up, they won
three out of four, then they went ten years without

(01:26:21):
winning with the go that's and then to go to
the quarterback in no, with the go to the grounterback,
with Tom Brady taking less money to help the Patriots
signed players. Tell me why in the world they win
a decade without winning. That's what I'm asked being because
it ain't automatic, of course, it's not automatic. Nobody said
it was automatic. I'm just telling you, I'm not afraid

(01:26:42):
to look at the team, to look at some players
and say they're going to win more Super Bowls. Apparently
you are because everything's premature. It's premature. It's premature. Stand
up with your chest out, rob my chest out. A prediction.
I told you that Prescott wasn't a lead. I told
you that the Cowboys wouldn't sign hip to a new deal.

(01:27:05):
I told you doing the one. Oh he didn't lead.
He's doing it. I can't live if he's he'll have
a deal. Got you see, he'll have a deal by
the fifteen and he'll have a deal. Where's the deal? Quiz?
He's about to miss the three million? Will where the deal?
I'll tell you where the deal live? You will wrong

(01:27:25):
the deal? That the deal is this. He's gonna make
thirty two million dollars this year. That's a heck of
a deal. I'll take it. And then next year, if
they don't wise up and sign him a long term,
he'll make thirty eight million. That's the deal. And then
the next year, if they don't wise up and sign
him long term, he might get fifty How you like that,

(01:27:48):
Rob Parker, how you like that, How you like zim
Apples dynasty? I give you that, Chris Jones. The dynasty continues.
It's that's premature. I never said they already are a dynasty,
but they're in route. And I don't think you know
what the dynasty is. I do because you think, go

(01:28:10):
give us your definition. You have to win, you have
to dominate. You have to win at least three championships
in a row or three out of four to be
considered a dynasty. If you win a championship and then
go two years or a year without winning and you
don't have any back to backs, the Spurs were never
a dynasty. Were talking about football. I'm just talking about

(01:28:31):
in general, the dynasts talking about they weren't. The Coboys
were a dynasty. Where definition written, Huh, that's in your book.
If I'm in the in the world, according to Rob
Parker sports, you gotta win at last the world. I
don't want to live three in a row or three

(01:28:51):
out of four and you're a dynasty thing less than that.
And so here's where this is just ultimate proof that
your logic is whack. The Pittsburgh's Steelers of the seventies,
weren't a dynasty. The Pittsburgh Steelers of Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann,
Frank o'harris, Rocky Blier, John Starworth, Me and Joe Green

(01:29:13):
ELC Greenwood, Jack hamm Jack Lambert, Lynney, Shelton melt Blunt.
That wasn't a dynasty. Rob Parker, what are you talking about?
Four super Bowls in six years they didn't win. That
ain't done this duo. They didn't win three in a row.
That's a two years without went to see a dynastball

(01:29:36):
It's one of the greatest dynasties in football. That ain't
a dynasty. That was a great organization and that was
like dynasts that were not a dynasts in six years
two years and they didn't wins. Yeah, but my other
two years they need to win three. It's just like
when Lebron and them in Miami couldn't win three in
a row. This, guys, John, that's what it's hard anybody

(01:30:00):
wall nobody can win. Say, why are you crossing sports?
Sop crossing sports season, sports dynasties period, No matter what,
that's not true. That is not true. It's different in
basketball and football, Baseball we don't even I mean, one player,
great player may never win a ring. It's different in

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different sports. You know this. The Pittsburgh Steelers of the
seventies were a dynasty, point blank period, the end case closed.
There's no question about it, no doubt about it, no
ifs ans or butts. My goodness. All right, eight seven

(01:30:43):
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(01:31:06):
all right, all right, really I think they should trash you.
Anybody that says the Steelers wearing a dynasty is went
three I know, I know. But two years when somebody
else that's the dynasty sad you never won back. The

(01:31:26):
Detroit Pistons have never been a dynasty, that's all. You're
just mad about and a fan boy like you. I
don't know that. I don't know that because every time
we talk baseball, every time we talk Aaron Rodgers, every
time we talk Detroit Pittstons fan boy all right, Cam Newton,

(01:31:46):
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(01:32:55):
have been disrespecting Cam Newton. We know this right then.
They know he was playing injured and they're holding those
numbers against him. What he put up in the last
few years, really the last not even the last few years,
his last really yet ten games. Two games to start
last season before he got hurt. He didn't play well.

(01:33:17):
He had twenty five off target throws according to the
analytics and things like that read a bash shoulder. And
then the second half of the twenty eighteen seasons was
great in the first half when he was healthy, poor
in the second half. No question about he's lost his
last eight starts. But I said it robed months ago.

(01:33:41):
The Patriots is the place for him, and a lot
of people were saying it wouldn't have happened, and it
didn't look like it was going to happen, but it did.
And now he's there, and I think he's gonna have
a big year. I think he's gonna lead them to
the playoffs. I can't wait to see him and Belichick together.
But Cama, he you know, he was kind of quiet

(01:34:02):
when he didn't have a deal, when all these teams were,
you know, passing over him, and obviously quarterbacks who couldn't
hold a candle to him. We're getting signed. But now
that he signed, it's not a huge deal, not a
great deal. It's basically the league minimum. Could be worth
up to seven and a half million if he plays well.

(01:34:23):
But now that he signed, he is talking and here's
what he said lately. He talked about you know who
he's got to replace, and that of course is Tom Brady.
He called it the elephant in the room, and he said,
you know who you're coming after. I'm like, yeah, great,

(01:34:44):
what he was, what he is is great. Needs know
even talking about it. But one thing about it, though,
coach Josh McDaniels, you're able to call some stuff that
you ain't never been able to call. Now you're getting
a dog. You're getting one of those ticked off dogs too.

(01:35:05):
And I'm looking at the schedule and I'm like, who
we're playing. That team passed on me. Okay, that team
passed on me. They could have came and got me.
So cam Rob is saying, he's about to come out
and do some damage. What do you think about this?
I like it. I understand. You know, he has a

(01:35:28):
lot of pride, a lot of a lot of bravado.
He anybody who runs around and rips open his shirt
to show this superman ass. And you know the way
that he handled himself. This is him. For him to
play some other role and be domicile and passive and

(01:35:50):
go like, well, I don't want to have anything to say.
I'll just wait and let my play speak for itself.
That's just not who he is. Do you remember did
he don't have any I don't remember him talking like
this and not lie to prove because of the way
people of dogged him. I think, right, But I just
hurt you. Just give you a former MVP. I'm just saying,

(01:36:12):
I just think that I don't remember him talking this much.
I remember him being colorful. I remember him obviously wearing
different types of clothing and his hair, and obviously he
was very confident, and like you said, he did the
Superman stuff. I didn't hear talking like this, and all
I'll say, I don't mind it, but you you got
to back it up. That's all there is to it.

(01:36:35):
When you talk like this, you're better back it up.
Muhammad Ali talked like this, so he had to back
it up. Connor McGregor talked like this, so he had
to back it up. And when you talk like this,
you better back it up. Or the sling shots, the darts,
the bullets will be coming your way. And and and

(01:36:57):
I'll say this too, because again I've already I just
said it. I make him to have a big year
and the team to do well. But the one thing
is if he were a linebacker, maybe even a running
back or a defensive end or something, because like you said,
he's hurt and he's angry. Yeah, but I don't think

(01:37:20):
that helps you at quarterback. I just think that, you know,
like you want to push back a little bit people
talking about him and dogging him, and you know, as
people saying he won't even make the team, he'll be
cut before the season starts, you know what I mean. Well,
but that's the talk out there, and there are people
saying that about him and all that, like you know,

(01:37:41):
Patriots on on the hook so that they could easily
get rid of him and it only costs him a
million dollars so they could cut him before the season
starts if he doesn't have anything. So there's all that
talk and and I'm sure he hears it, and he's
a proud man. Has had some big time success in
the National Football League, so he wants to push back
a little bit. I don't have an issue with it.

(01:38:01):
But what I'm saying is, I don't think that helps
you at quarterback. If you're a defensive end, a linebacker,
and I mean even maybe even a cornerback. You can
go out there angry and it can really drive you.
It can actually maybe make you even better at quarterback.
You gotta be calm and collected. That being angry is

(01:38:23):
not going to help you complete that pass. It's not
gonna make you more accurate. So that's all I'm saying.
I like the confidence. I get You're absolutely right. I
get him being hurt, him being upset, But I'm just saying,
beat play your game. Don't let me get you out
of your game. No. But but the bottom line, quarterback

(01:38:46):
is a precision job. So if you're running back and
I gotta run somebody over, then yeah, the anger can
fuel me, but it's the anger is not gonna make
you throw that pass more accurate. That's all I'm saying.
You gotta still be calm and accurate and all that.
So you gotta keep your wits about you. So that's

(01:39:07):
all I'm saying, is all that. It's to me, that's
for a different position. But I think he's gonna go
out and play well. I can't wait to see I
Rob cam Newton to me is one of the biggest
storylines of the season. That's one of the things I'm
most excited about seeing. Yeah, no, I mean just the
whole Belichick thing. How well they'll do without Brady if

(01:39:31):
he bounces back, Say they win ten games, wins the division,
wins the playoff game, and Tom Brady gets knocked out
or don't make the playoffs. It'll be it'll be a
huge story. They'll say, how how Bill Belichick up changed
Cam Newton's career, you know what I mean. And it'll
be another his cap. Oh, yeah, it'll be. It'll be.

(01:39:51):
It'll be huge. It'll be Yeah, And I get it,
and I actually, well, Cam might be talking no matter what.
But I'm sure part of it is that he feels like, look,
I got the best coach in the league. I've got
a good offensive coordinator you know that that's versatile and
can play there. I'm sure that's something they've already talked about, right,

(01:40:13):
he even said it. I mean, I'm sure this isn't
the last, the first time that Josh McDaniels has heard this,
that he can call stuff he's not gonna be you know,
he never could call with Tom Brady. I'm sure that
Cam's probably said it to him, and so I think
Cam is bolstered by the thought that, hey, this offense,

(01:40:34):
They're gonna build this offense around me, specific to my
skill set, and I'm gonna shine. And yeah, I can't
wait to see it. But we have. As I said,
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Jane Slater, who's joining us shortly. Rob. This was the
last tweet that she sent out. I'm told the final
offer on the table for Dak Prescott is between thirty

(01:42:02):
three to thirty five million annually with over one hundred
million guaranteed. While there's still whether they have still been
no discussions between the two, that's the deal the Cowboys
have presented ahead of tomorrow's deadline, per an informed source. Now.
She also said something about the years and why the

(01:42:25):
Cowboys don't you know they're insistent on doing a five
year deal deal. Here's what she says. Why is the
extra year a sticking point question mark? I'm told they
just don't do four year extensions. The Cowboys consider the
offer top money, so they want the extra year. If
he doesn't reach a deal Wednesday, he plays for thirty

(01:42:47):
one point four million in twenty twenty on the franchise tag.
What you think, Rob? I think you're gonna play on
a franchise tag? I never thought they were gonna get
good a deal done. If they really wanted to get
a deal done, it would have done off already, and
the longer the Cowboys wait, the more it's gonna cost.
So so there's obviously uh something there because they could

(01:43:11):
have done this already before they signed uh uh the
running back um Ezekiel I was gonna say before they
signed him, Chris, they should have. They could have done Dak,
and and people were wondering about because the money a
lot of money, Yep, they they That's why even now,

(01:43:34):
the longer they wait, if they if they're gonna keep Dak,
the money's just gonna get higher and higher. And to
be honest, it's gonna be that way unless they drafted,
like say Dak left, unless they draft a young, hot shot,
superstar quarterback to get that big name quarterback, it's gonna cost.
It's just the way it works. Dak. As much as

(01:43:56):
I like him, and I've said he's in the route
to be an elite, I've never said he's a top
five quarterback, but he's gonna get paid like he's a
top I mean, at this point, a top two quarterback,
because whatever he signs is, if he signs something, it's
gonna be second only to Pat Mahomes. So we will

(01:44:17):
see what happens. But as we wait on Jane Slater.
Hopefully we'll be able to get Jane. She might be uh,
she's probably on the phone talking to people around the league.
But we'll see Rob. And so what do you if
he if he doesn't sign and if he plays on

(01:44:38):
the franchise tag, how do you think that's gonna affect
the team? I don't know, Just dude, not having your
quarterback sign and question mark he could wind up They'll
start looking at him thinking what could wind up like
Kirk Cousins and wind up not being there, Like there's
a chance that there's a major difference between him and
kirk Cousins. Though I'm just saying that. I mean Kirk Cousins.

(01:44:58):
They didn't offer him a long time term deal. No,
but but but there's still no deal signed. There's no way.
All the other quarterbacks in his draft class all signed
deals and he's franchise tag. That's all I'm saying is
but they're only he's only not signed because he doesn't
want a five year deal still not signed. He could
have signed it, but he doesn't want He only wants

(01:45:19):
four years. So I'm saying it's a difference in like,
it's not like the Cowboys haven't offered him anything, like
they're saying, look play on this franchise tag or not.
They've offered him a deal. They would make him among
the richest quarterbacks in the league, and he doesn't want
to sign it. He wants four years, but he doesn't
want to sign the first. If you want somebody and

(01:45:39):
he's your guy, you make them happy. They could, they
could do whatever they do, whatever they want. Well that's
what I would do. So I disagree that that that
the Cowboys are so hell bent, like they haven't broken
any rules or changed anything before, done something special. I
remember when Emmett Smith held out, let's get to that.
Let's get to Jane Slater, Jane NFL network reporter. Thank

(01:46:01):
you for joining us. No worry, Sorry, guys, I was
actually on the phone working through some of this stuff.
So everything ye like I was talking to somebody else,
So I apologize. No, we thought you might be. We
noticed the night you might be on the phone all night,
So we appreciate you joining us for a few minutes. So, wa,
way do you think things stand? I mean, does it
look we see the reports that it looks like it's

(01:46:22):
not gonna get done. Where do you think from what
you're hearing, he's here's what I've been told, and here's
sort of just Having covered this team and a couple
of some of the high profile extensions over the last
couple of years, there's so many talking points on this,
and honestly, I could argue both sides on it, but
what it feels like right now is a game of chicken,

(01:46:45):
so to speak. Um, they've been in an impast really
since Combine when the talk sort of broke down and
when they essentially stopped the franchise tag on the exclusive
franchise tag on Dak Prescott. Now he said to make
thirty one point four million dollars this year, and I'm
told that the contract that's been on the table, and
again I'm told that they have not had any meaningful conversations,

(01:47:07):
any conversation quite frankly, since that franchise tax. The ballpark
figure is thirty three between thirty three and thirty five
million annually, and we're looking at over one hundred million
dollars guaranteed. And so that would put him right in
about the area of where Russell Wilson's deal was, where
he was making thirty five a p y and that

(01:47:28):
was one hundred and seven total guaranteed, and the Cowboys
have typically sort of front loaded deep contracts, so you've
got to think a lot of the money is on
the front end. Now, my big question is why I
want the Cowboys just do a four year deal. If
he wants a four year deal, give them the four
year deal. The argument is that because they're game top
money here, they want that X year. In other words,

(01:47:49):
it gives them leverage because in year three they could
keep da Prests don't wants the leverage because if they
do the four year deal in year three they can
come back to the table, they can rick the deal
up and then do another extension then and then again.
As I was talking about, you know, you frontload the money.
But this would essentially with a five year deal allow

(01:48:11):
them to come to the table in year four to
redo the contract, so delaying him that extra year where
he could make some extra money. So a lot of
people feel like this is potato potato. Well, the problem
is the Cowboys slap that franchise tag on him, so
he's looking at thirty one point four next year. If
they come to him next year and decide that they

(01:48:31):
want to in twenty twenty one, slap the franchise tag
on it again. He's looking at about thirty seven million
for that franchise tag, and then he can come back
to the table, And it would be sort of remarkable
if the Cowboys out for second franchise tag didn't bring
him back, because again, everyone I've talked to within that
building they believe Dac is the guy. This isn't a

(01:48:53):
situation like with the Redskins where they were still doing
this talent evaluation with Kirk Cousins, but this could be
a situation and where if the Cowboys decided to put
a franchise tag on him two years in a row,
like thirty one point four this year, roughly thirty seven
million next year, assuming the captains where we expected to be,
and then if the Cowboys don't want to pay him,

(01:49:14):
there's gonna be someone that's gonna pay him, sort of
like what we saw with Kirk Cousins. The Vikings paid
him and paid them well. I wonder, though, Jay know,
if he has another they don't make the playoffs. He
doesn't have his numbers aren't good against good teams or
playoff teams. If he has another year, I know his
total numbers were good because he beat up a lot

(01:49:34):
of bad teams. But if you look at those numbers
and they don't make the playoffs again and they don't
be good teams, don't you think his stock is going
to drop somewhat and people will start to wonder about him.
So Darren wise where I could make the argument on
the other side. So I just presented why Jack is
approaching that. This is his idea of here's how I

(01:49:57):
can make good money. Here's my smart approach to this deal.
On the flip side, the Cowboys give themselves another year
to evaluate this quarterback. They get to evaluate him in
a system with a new head coach. He wasn't there
necessarily to learn this playbook with Mike McCarthy. Andy Dalton was.

(01:50:17):
And I'm not saying Andy Dalton is necessarily a viable replacement,
but he is certainly a lot better than what Cooper
Rush was. And if the Cowboys decide next year is
if they want to cut bait, they want to go
to the draft, fine, But then my next question for
you is, well, what does college football look like next year?
When does the draft take place? There's so much uncertainty

(01:50:37):
even in that respect, so I think a lot of
people are making these arguments. Will you know, Dak, what
if what if you don't get a full season? What
if you know? To your point, what if it's it's
a bad season? Well, on the flip side to the
Cowboys could be also in a situation depending with the COVID.
What I will say is to what's unfortunate for Dak
Cresscott is I feel like if there wasn't a pandemic,

(01:51:00):
we didn't see the massive unemployment numbers. We didn't see
you know, people sort of struggling to make ends meet
right now. This talk of thirty three thirty five million
a year, one hundred ten million guarantee is so bloviated
and inflated to the average person who's just set up
with everything in the world right now and they want
something to be upset about. It's easy to say you're greedy, Dak.

(01:51:24):
It's easy to say, you know, you don't deserve this money.
People forget that he paid for what two points He
was a little over two million last year. He's playing
well below that as a fourth round pick. This is
a guy who was always bet on himself. He bet
on himself in high school. He bet on himself in
college and everyone says, well, are you going to be
distracted the fact that the Cowboys disrespected you in some

(01:51:45):
sense by not giving you the deal that you thought
you deserved. Well, he didn't get the deal last year,
and he played admirably. I mean, he had gaudy passing
numbers last year, worked on all the foot mechanics. The
one thing that I've seen that's been so impressive about him,
and we can even go back to his rookie season.
He was able to play through Tony Romo. I mean

(01:52:06):
the Tony Robo beat hive is unlike anything I've ever seen.
And in Dallas, when you know Tony was hurt and
when he was getting ready to come back, he didn't
even get to compete for his job. I mean, Dad
played that admirably given all that stress to the fourth
round guy who was fourth on the depth chart. I
would remind people Jamil Showers was ahead of them, a
guy that twitched a defense. So this is a guy

(01:52:26):
that you know, when he played in college when his
mother was going through cancer and they're winning lost her.
I mean, the guy is remarkable at compartmentalizing business personal
and getting stuff done. So I actually am and not
overly concerned about whether this is going to be a distraction,
because he hasn't seemed to let anything be a distraction

(01:52:48):
for him, quite frankly, and he's always so even killed.
But I think this is interesting, and I think there
are going to be two sides on this. I think,
you know, people have I seen it on my Twitter timeline.
The Cowboys nation is so divide on this, and a
lot of people think he'd being greedy. But I also
want to remind them how admirably he's played over the
last couple of years for so little. I don't think
these numbers would be such a big deal if we

(01:53:09):
weren't in a pandemic. Great stuff, Jane, We appreciate it.
We know you'll be on top of it. Thanks a
lot for joining us. No worries started being late, guys.
That's all right later, All right, disgruntled sports fans, This
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(01:53:30):
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We're talking about it trash talking Tuesday. Listen teeth, Reggie,
I don't know whether to smile. Let's you kick a field?

(01:53:52):
Go there, all right, let's make it happen. Chris, Tony
in La, you're on the eye couple of Fox Sports
Radio who you try Sellers is so good to be on.
I appreciate y'all. This is a teachable moment. You know
what I'm saying. I'm trashing Chris bruth sord Nick Wright
and all of those lazy TV sports radio analysts who

(01:54:17):
went out there and bought them Brazilian cut speetos with
Patrick mahomes name on the back role Parker, Where's River
when you need him? Christie, you must be crazy? Y'all
got six minutes on the show. I got six facts
that Patrick Mahomes ain't Jordans and he doesn't have gold potential.

(01:54:38):
Hol At your boy number one. Then this is brought
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At your Boy. Patrick Mahomes didn't lead the league in
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he didn't need any leaf intercessors. He didn't need any completions.
He didn't need it in yards for attempt keep yard

(01:55:00):
or quarterback raidings. My goodness. Number two who threw more
touchdowns at practical Mahomes last year, Lamar Jackson, he laid
the league. Jameis Winston, who's a backup, Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott,
those two dudes that came throw Carson Wentz, who plays
with a LifeLock around his legs, Jimmy g and Drew Brees.
I hear you crying, Christmas Sort. I know you are new,

(01:55:21):
but I hear you crying. If if he didn't get injured,
if he can't injured, if Holley Bay didn't running to
damn justice, really real sluggers, shoe him, Miss America, stop
playing Christmas sort passer. Mahomes played fourteen games last year.
Guess what. Drew Brees played eleven patch Rons through twenty six,
Drew Bride through twenty seven. Number four than listen to

(01:55:43):
this list, Russell Wilson, Jimmy G, Drew Brees, Matt Ryan,
Deshaun Watson, Kirk Cousin, Philip old Man Rivers. We're in
Tannehill and there old Man used car all complete car
percentage of that passes and Patrick Mahomes. Thanks Tony, Thanks Tony,

(01:56:06):
you already made my point. Hey, Hey, Randy, Randy in
New York, you're on the couple of Fox Sportuatey who
you trashing? Well, that last caller, Tony stole a little
of my thunder, But I'd also like the trash mister
Chris Bruceard. You hit the nail on the head Rob Parker.
I think he's got a poster of Pat Mahomes up
in his bedroom. And you know, hey, Kansas City won

(01:56:29):
last year and that's great now, but it's tough to
repeat in the NFL. And I think there might be
a team in Baltimore that has something to say about
your little dynasty. That's all I'm saying. There you go,
Thanks Randy. What about Byron in South Carolina? Real quick? Byron?
Who you're trashing? I'm trashing you, Rob Parker? You know what,

(01:56:50):
I'm just so tired of everything, Lebron. Do you got
something to see? Oh? Guess what? You should have put
pot on the back of his dirt fit? Yeah, for
you just always trash alone. What do you want to
put in the back of the Jersey already throwing things
for social justice. Appreciate y'all, man, love y'all, thank you,

(01:57:11):
all right, all right, that's it, Chris. We don't have
timebody else. Wow, they all trashed us. I think we
put it out there too much. We can show many times.
You can trash the Eye Couple. Believe it if you want. Yeah,
but that's the kind of show. I mean, Tony was
his own show. Then when Tony is well researched and Tony,
you know, when I write that column say it's not sure?

(01:57:33):
Yeah right, you should? You should? You should? Uh, Rob,
I need Tony. Don't don't claim that column. Don't do that, Rob,
You'll end up regretting it. What I'm Tony bringing up? Man,
come on, who want the super Bowl? That's all I have?
I know, I couple pas. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussar then Rob

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