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It's The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob debate whether or not the floundering Philadelphia 76ers would be better off just breaking up the Joel Embiid-Ben Simmons pairing, and The Odd Couple Crew pays their respects to the late, great Kobe Bryant on Mamba Day. Plus, former NFL general manager and NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly swings by to discuss what's next for Earl Thomas, and much more.
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But before we get to that, we are going to
stick with the NBA. There's so many storylines to speak of,
and um gotta be Look, we understand Ben Simmons was hurt,
but still said that right, you know, because we do
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what we do. Acknowledge that, yes, they were hampered by
not having him, but it's been Chris right, swept. Now,
I would have picked Boston anyway, even with Ben Simmons there,
but still they got swept like a piece of dust
on the floor from the Boston Celtics. And that's gonna
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be a great second round series. Boston Toronto, both of
them swept their first round series. But now the question
is what to do in Philly. Of course, Joel Nb
Ben Simmons the two young stars there, and they fired
their coach Brett Brown today I think look no long
time coming. And I think Rob they made a big mistake.
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Who was the what was the the team the bubble
and the coach of the bubble was Monty Williams and
the Phoenix Suns. Monty Williams, if you remember, Rob was
an assistant on the seventy sixers staff and people thought
that the Sixers are actually gonna hire him, it was
like last year and and move on from Brett Brown. Instead,
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they decided to keep Brett. They let Monty go to
Phoenix and they were eight knowing the bubble and they
got a nice little thing going there. I think they
should have hired Monty Williams last year, but I think Brett.
I think it's hard to fire a coach. I know
they didn't get past the second round. You're losing the
game seven on the Kauhai bouncer, do you know what
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I mean? Chris like like, that's that's that's tough. No,
I hear you. But I'm saying, is you know it
had been taught like no, I know he was saying,
I've been achieving much with him in June, but I
hear you. Was they didn't go out in the they
didn't get swept, right, you know what I mean? They
bounce away right exactly. And I'm just saying that that's
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that probably is what saved his job. Would you probably
you know what I mean, the looks of it, because
it would be like, how do you get fired? They
just lost in seven game? People with a trip, But
you're right, I mean, it was like you could look
at it like, hey, they were a bounce away from
taking out the NBA champions, the eventual NBA champions, So
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we're close. So I get what you're saying. But but anyway,
they're looking for a new coach. And Ron Parker, you
wrote a column and on danspin dot com today. I'm
just gonna read the title and then I'm gonna let
you take it away. It's time to distrust the process.
That's a nice one and break up these loser sixers.
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There you go, being mean spirited. Well, I can't help it.
I mean it got your attention. You didn't do the headline.
I didn't write the head and my point in the
column was I get the injury. I'm not blind to it, Chris.
They've ate some blunders in the front office, right Butler left,
Tobias Harris got the big deal JJ Reddick, who they
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needed as a shooter. Remember the folks who was a
total bust, Right Horford didn't wake out. Here's the thing
with Fults though. Not only did they make the wrong
pick Rob, but they traded with Boston to get the
number one instead of number three, and they grabbed faults.
And who does Boston get with their pick, Jason Tatum exactly.
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You imagine him on this team exactly. So so the
front office hasn't helped either. But Chris, if I'm the
seventy sixers, I might have to look at it. And
we had just had Mike Breen on and of course
the voice of the NBA. And the problem I have
is those two. I'm not so sure they really go together,
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you know, like that's my biggest issue, and that's why
I would want to move on. It's not that they
can't play. And in this man's NBA, if you can't shoot,
I just don't know how valuable you are. I know,
people love Ben Simmons. Chris, he can't shoot, you know,
in transition he has to be or in the pain.
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You have a big guy who can score. Even yesterday
in being thirty points, ten rebounds, you know it, one
like he had six points or something. So I think
you could still build off of him if you could
get some other shooters or maybe trade for a draft pick.
You need shooting in this man's NBA. So I would
part with Ben Simmons, who has his own injury thing.
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I understand the MBAT thing. He's old Chris three years,
ninety five million dollars, but Ben Simmons signed last year
both five years for one hundred and seventy you know
what I mean, So that he's got a lot of
money tied in and as good as Ben Simmons is
and I recognize him as a talent, I would move
on from him and stick with him. Beat what I
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would do Rob is. I would not split them up
just yet. I would bring in a new coach that
I believe through what he tells me and shows me
in the interview and from his track record, a guy
that knows how to maximize or I believe can maximize
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these two together. And you you quoted a former NBA
coach in your story as saying something similar. What did
he say, He wouldn't do it? Yeah, he said I wouldn't.
I wouldn't break them up, honestly. Honestly, I wouldn't break
them up. I think they can coexist. Is up to
the coaches to be creative enough offensively to put them
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both in situations to be successful. They also need more
shooters on the floor. So that's my mentale I would
give it. These two are so good individually. Ben Simmons,
we all remember him in the draft and look for
all this lack of shooting, he's arguably the best defender
in the league. He's a great defender and he still
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gives you, you know, sixteen eight and eight on the
offensive end. So he's a very good player. Obviously inb
we know what he does. Individually, They're just too good
for me to break up. Now when I feel like
my coach just didn't get the best out of them.
So I would bring in that coach, whoever it may be,
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give him a season to try to put these two
together something different. And then if they go out prematurely
again and it's just not working, then I would split
him up and Rob. Here's what I would trade in
Bid right now. I mean, look, we'll see what happens
next year. Does is MB spectacular and Simmons struggles again,
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We'll see, Maybe that would change my mind, But right now,
I would trade Embid. And then and actually I think
the coach said this in your article, and I would
play Ben Simmons like Milwaukee plays Jannis, right, So I
would trade in Bed for like a perimeter star who
can shoot, and then a couple other shooters and put
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them around Simmons. And you know, he can bring the
ball up, he can you know, he's a great passer,
he can score in the post. And I would just
play off of him either pushing the ball or when
he's in the post with the ball getting double team
passing out to shooters and go from there. MB. I look,
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obviously he's a great player, but MB, to me, Rob,
and this is a good I like this discussion because
he's certainly not Shock. But people think, oh, you couldn't
have a Shock in today's game. You know, it's just
their space the floor, and you know you're trading two
for three and not. No, the problem with HIMBA, you
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could have a Shock in today's game, and Shock would
have the mentality where he would put forty on you.
He would punish you again and again and again, and
that whereas MB and I used to blame Simmons for it.
You know Simmons is in there. You put him down
low because he can't shoot. And now MBI's fade out
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to the three. No, because MB fades out to the
perimeter anyway, he's out by the three point line or
his post up. He's letting him push him out to
fifteen sixteen feet where it gets his entry passed and
then he faces up instead of being a big man
and playing down low. And so MB has to develop
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the mentality where in today's NBA, where there aren't really
any great big men other than me, I am going
to average thirty plus because down to give me the
ball every time, and I'm gonna keep doing it. And
exactly no, I agree with that, and I don't understand
why that wouldn't be the game plan considering see, that's
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why nobody get a cobody can guard him, right, nobody
can guard him. I I agree. I just help. I
just want you to sell me a little bit more
on Simmons, because how do you make it to this level, Chris?
How do you make it to this stardom where you
don't have a jump you know, like you don't have
a jump shot. I just I get it going to
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the basket, I get all the other stuff. You would
think you're just there taking a thousand shots every day,
or you got you know, Chris, you would develop a
baby hook whatever it is, something that you could just
toss or what did it call it? A tear joy
run the runner the tear drop yet right, flow that stuff. Right,
But I'm just saying, like something that could be consistent
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that you can do. I just I find it unbelievable.
Like and then you know, like he stays away from
the three. I think he made his first three last year.
Did he make his first three last year? Yeah, something
like it might have been his first, but he hit
one and it was like the world, It was like
a celebration. You know, look, I get how he can
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get to this level because he's so big, and he's
you know, he's just a great player that he could
dominate college and obviously high school without the jumper. But
the fact that he has not developed a jump shot, Rob,
that is a failure on his part. And on the
Philadelphia seventy six ers part, I agree, get somebody and
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this is look Josh Richardson said it on the record.
There was a story in Yahoo by Chris Haynes, friend
of the show FS one colleague, who said that players,
you know, just felt like Brett Brown wasn't holding him accountable.
This is an example. You have to have somebody in
the organization. Now, I get it, Rob. We've been around
the NBA and other pro sports long enough to know
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these guys make so much money. It's hard to do right.
But you got to have somebody in there. But to
get somebody shoot, you gotta learn how to shoot. Ben.
I'm saying, you gotta give somebody jumpers, But he's saying,
what are you talking about. You just gave me a
five year, one hundred and seventy million dollar contract without
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a jump shot, right, You know what? I mean, Chris,
not just because if you if you told me without
a jump shot, you're gonna make ninety and with a
jump shot one seventy, I might I might change that.
Do you know what I'm saying? Like? What is what
I do to get one seventies? Right? Right? I hear you?
And and I always say this, Rob, and this is
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true in every sport. But there are guys that love
the game. There are guys that like the game and
love what the game brings, the the money. That's actually
true in every field of endeavor. You know that you
talked to football players. There's a lot of guys who
don't like football, right, but they just but they can
make money. It's something that they can make a living. Yep.
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And and and I think the guys that love the
game are the guys that improve. And even when they
get the big money, even when they get the star status,
they still work on their game and improve. You can
see Lebron James loves the game. He's done everything you
could do and he's still working his butt off to
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try to win. And there are other guys that once
they get that money, you know, they have a great
contract year. Once they get the money they relax and
they don't improve or they get worse. And so I
gotta question how much Ben wants to be a superstar
because nobody's asking me to be Klay Thompson. But my goodness,
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shoot the ball. But here's why I would build around him,
Rob because even though he can't, like Yannis, isn't much
of a shooter. But you see the success that the
Bucks have because they put shooters around him. Now they
don't hurt them in the playoffs, you know they I
think these teams gonna box in the paint, keep those
straight line drives closed up for Yannis and for some
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body else to beat him, And I think that could
be the Bucks downfall. But they're obviously one of the
elite teams. And I think as good a passer and
playmaker as Yannis is, Ben Simmons is a better passer
and playmaker. And Ben can score in the post, so
without embating the post, it would all be long as Simmons.
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So I would build around him and have shooters around him.
Little Ben shouldn't. I'm interested to hear because what was
surprising was that column got good play Chris and the
people from Philadelphia. A lot of people actually agreed with me.
I was a little surprised. I thought I'd get some pushback,
but I got a lot of positive I know. Yeah,
you know, four people said that they agreed and two
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said they disagree. Is that all it was? It was
a good column. It was a good column. Yeah it was.
It was a talker. So definitely we want to hear
from you eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. All right,
if they decide to break them up, who shouldn't the
Sixers look to trade in Simmons or Joe l Embi.
We will continue the conversation with you. Next is Chris
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couple Chris and Rob on The Magic City Monday and
the Lakers and Blazers just got underway less than a
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minute ago, so we're gonna be keeping our eye on
that one. Of course, Game four, do the Blazers even
it up and make this thing interesting? Or do the
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we asked you to call in and tell us, would
your bill around Joel embiid or Ben Simmons if you're
gonna split the duo up in Philadelphia? All right, let's
kick it off with Buck and Birmingham. You're on the
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eye a couple of Fox Sports Radio. What you got Buck? Buck?
Go once? Okay, you had the lifelong Sixer fan. Let
me stay man Caves. I thought I wanted to get
rid of Ben Simmlons, but after his defensive problem is
what we need to do is take the ball out
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of his hand. Man, you can't play point god. After
watching Denver in Utah last night and they shoot out,
we need a point god that can shoot three points.
We don't have no cut from the opinios, I go
get rid of the coach in Game three, the Sixers
have missed so many shots. I just couldn't believe it.
That opportunity to win. They can't shoot. You got to
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shoot the rock Man. So you want to trade Simmons?
Is that what you're saying? No, I don't, don't even
one of them. Just take the burn out of simmers Man.
We need to keep it. I thought, I thought I
wanted to get rid of it. But he plays too
good at defense. What have you noticed when you watched
the sixties? When Shimmers play, he bringing the ball up
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point guard. You need he needs to be shot, period right.
He needs to shrieks Buck. We appreciate the call. Max
and Georgia. You're on the eye couple. Fox Sports Radio.
What's up Max, Hey, guys, Good good evening. I just
wanted to make a quick shout out to Reggie Miller.
Happy fifty fifth birthday. Eight points and nine seconds. Very
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impressive shout out. Yes you know what, Max. The only
thing that's more impressive. I was at that game and
he pushed down Greg Anthony. I was sitting courtside, no question,
I was sitting right on the baseline. Max. I could
see it clear as day. I'll never forget that moment yet,
shod Hey, let me run this by you guys. What
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do you think? So? I think you've got a West
Coast thing a team, and an East Coast team. The
Lakers got four guys coming up. You've got the Marcus,
you got Avery, you got Anthony Even and Raigeon. Now
you may not keep all that. Maybe you can move
some pieces, but I think I would. I would ship
and be first Rob. I think I would His health,
his lack of energy, his lack of enthusiasm, I just
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don't I don't like that. I think he's a great talent.
My biggest thing with guys his effort and energy. And
if you're not bringing both of those, I don't care
how much talent you got. You can't shoot in the
league where you gotta be a shot. I just we
five shooters, but you need at least three. If the
Raptors Kyle Lowry, Pascal Surge, Marcus, saw Fred ben Fleet,
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you know they're not going to be able to probably
keep all those guys. So I would try to make
a move. I like Pascal a lot. I would like
to get Pascal or Fred van Fleet even. I know
it's the East Coast rival, but I like to see
what you guys thought about that. I appreciate you guys,
all right, Max, appreciate the call. What about Mark and Sacramento.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Mark,
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what's going on? Welcome back, Chris? Thank you my man. Yeah, hey,
real quick, if if I was gonna trade either one
of them, it would be indeed, because I think Simmons
has magic Johnson type skills and you gotta get him
a shot. Somebody go get the boys shot. I remember Jay,
I remember Jason Kidd didn't have a much much of
a shot either, and he found one. Matt wasn't very
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much of a shoot shooter, but he hit it. Yeah, yeah,
but he could hit it. But it could be done.
Here I'm watching him fix uh, young bad boy. His
shot looks better. Go get that coach, because this shot
now looks better. You can get this boys shot. He
needs to shoot the ball. You guys are right, but
he's got magic Johnson skills and without being be there,
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that opens up the fourth for him to get some
more shooters. I think you see a more explosive Ben
Simmons without embed there. You ask me, look ye and
then look if Jason Kidd and you remember Rob when
he entered the league, he couldn't shoot a lick. To me,
his shot was more brough. I mean, we really don't
see Ben shots, so it's hard to say who's who
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you're talking about. All you're talking about Tony Braxon or
making baskets look at you. But kids shot was terrible,
and he became a really good three point shooter. So
it can be done. You're not gonna become Klay Thompson
or Steph Curry, but you can become a pretty good shoot,
an adequate shooter if you work on it. And so
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it shows you. Ben just hasn't worked on his jay.
Either that or he has a mental block that when
he gets in the game he's afraid to take the shot.
But I do agree with these guys. I would build
around Simmons. But you heard Max. He brought up robbed up,
so he brought up the Lakers. I don't think that's
pot that's even makes feasible. Like if could you imagine
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a d Lebron and mbid. If I'm the Lakers and
I can get it, I do that and not go school, right,
I'm trying to just kill people inside. But I don't
think that's possible. I think of Miami's a good trade
that's been brought up. Try to try to trade trade
because Butler and Joe LMB were great friends in Philly.
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You bring you send MB down there and get some
of those shooters out of Miami. You got Tyler, hero
Duncan Robinson. I mean, and I'll tell you and and
the problem though is you you won't get past Miami.
Well Philadelphia, Yeah, I mean, let's see what MB would do.
Would he would he still be the guy floating out
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to the perimeter or you know, I think pat Riley.
You know, we know he knows how to coach big men.
So and I know he's not the coach, but you
know he's got the ear of supposter obviously, so and
be interesting. That would be interesting. But I need to
get a haul for either one of them. I tell
you that. Oh yeah, no doubt. All right, let's do
Andrew in Massachusetts. You're on they couple Fox Sports Radio.
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What's up with Andrew? Andre? Yeah? Andre? Why do they
put Andrew? I'm just gonna say that's rob g He
admitted it was his bad. Okay, sorry for a couple
of year, you know, to to the business. So, Chris,
I think you're on the right track. In terms of
the Miami angle, I again would build around Simmons and
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to guard oriented game and a lot of great points
made also for me the clutch connection. You know, Ben Simmons,
the clutch sports guy, you know, so trying to leverage
that to get other stars in. But to your point
about Miami, I don't believe they're going to extend Bam
right now. I think they've made that public, you know,
and be being friends with Jimmy Butler. That could be
an opportunity where and you mentioned Duncan Robinson, Tyler hero.
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You get a post player, you get a guard, you know,
kind of a win win and that would be a
rivalry going forward in the Eastern Conference. So, uh, the
thing is Bam doesn't shoot either. I don't I don't
hate it because obviously BAM's a great player and defensively
you'd be ferocious with Bam and Simmons, But he doesn't
shoot it either. I think he's I don't even know
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if he's taken any threes this year, maybe three or
four of them. But that's the question. Can you have
two guys like that that don't shoot the three very well.
But good call, good call. All right. We got our man,
Charlie Castlely coming up, former NFL GM to fill us
in on all things NFL. But first, be sure to
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hundred nine for seven auto. The only hard part is
figuring out which way is easier. He's a former NFL
GM now an analyst for the NFL Network. Friend of
the show, Charlie Castlely, Charlie, welcome, how are you? What's up? Hey?
It's great to be with you. And I love the
historical reference to Ted Williams. And I was waiting. I
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was waiting. I was gonna say something you want at
all the points, all the point I wanted you know,
I was gonna say that number that's one of those numbers,
Charlie that sticks in my head. Four or six. I
remember that as the last guy about four leagues, no doubt.
All right, Charlie, let's get to it. It's obviously the
question on everybody's mind. Are the Cowboys going to sign Earl? Well,
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let me ask you this, Should they sign Earl Thomas?
In your opinion? You know, I really can't can't tell
you that, to be honest with you. It's disturbing what
happened in Baltimore. But the interesting thing was, um, he
was reported he came in great shape and looked better. Um.
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I think what's disturbing is if you've got a guy
that's late, is not going to meetings, and you're trying
to develop a culture with a football team, Um, you
don't need that. And and now that's what if you're
looking at and they've changed the system. Okay, it's to
be a more complex system. Uh, more coverages. Okay. This
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is what he struggled with when he went to Baltimore
last year. Eventually, I guess found some way to get around.
And I saw these stats about how well he played,
they're not that accurate. Okay, he couldn't call he made
it on kind of on utation. Yeah, I think you
know there's some of that in there. So, um, I
don't know. I a little bit of buyer beware. Um
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if you buy him, uh, just you know, realize you
may want to fire him too. So I think, yeah,
he'd be cheap. That's the good thing. I guess what's
that now, he'd come on the cheap, I would think so, yeah,
because you know, it appears there'll be some kind of
salary disputer grievance. At least that's what the story is
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right now. It's not confirmed to me, but it seems that,
you know, Baltimore Fields, they must have some kind of
reason that they can go after his money and challenge it.
And uh and and if you have that, you go
after it. So Charlie, uh, what do you make of
the reports coming out of Patriots camp about Cam Newton
and Stidham not really playing well and it looks like
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Cam is winning the job? Are you hearing the same stuff? Well?
I think that you know with the with the thing
with Cam now stick, Hey, first of all, you got
a short camp and if Stidham is mist some time,
that's going to hurt him. Um what I what I like?
What I hear out of? There is there adapting the
system to what he could do. And uh, Carolina, when
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when you ask them what could he do well? He
could throw the deep ball, he could throw the deep out. Uh,
he could throw the run past option game the keepers
and call it from the line of scrimmage. In other words,
the hurry up type semi offense, all quick greed type
things and then making part of a running attack. I'm
not a big stack guy because status can make you lazy.
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But eight runs a game, this guy seventy wins under eight,
He's under fifty percent. He's not a high percentage passer though,
and that's been you know, the weakness in his game.
Keep in the pocket mad him beat you from there.
That's the game plan against him. New England has always
thrived on you know, a guy that Brady, who had
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great ability to read the defense and accurate. But Bet
Belichick and and H McDaniels, they have adjusted. They won.
They went ten and five with Matt Castle. I think
it was three and one with Garoppolo or four, and
I don't remember exactly. And Brissette they won with him,
so they can adjust so right now, I don't know
which way they're going to go. I think they came
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in with the idea Stid it would be the startup
because I had to find out about him and knew
the system played well in camp a year ago, got
better in the offseason, So I mean they felt the
guy had he had first round throwman talent um. He
wasn't as consistent as you liked in college, but I
mean he could throw the ball, so you know it
might be cam. They might play him both before it's over.
But Charlie Um Joe Judge has gotten some some publicity
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for he kind of exactly like Judge Judy. Yeah. I
mean you know he took the names off the jerseys,
and I mean you know he's saying, yeah, no, we're
not gonna sing Kumbaya. This is football. I gotta be honest.
I'm an old school guy. I kind of like that.
But is that going that style? Will that fly in today?
You don't have the modern players. No, I get it,
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I get it, But you know, where are you out
on this, Charlie. I'd say here's how I would say it.
From the outside end. Brian Flores maybe got some kick
back early on from from people. But by the end
of the year they were playing damn good football. The
language and people were buying into a system. And I
and I look for them to really have a good
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team may help it off season. See um. And so
here's the thing. You gotta do. The names off the jersey. Hey,
that's fine. Parcels took the star off the helmet in Dallas. Okay. Um,
you can run a tough all right. But but here's
the thing. You have to convince the players that everything
that you're doing is a reason you're doing it. They'll
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buy in eventually. The other thing from Parcels, And you
can't be Belichick. You know, Belichick wins. He's a brilliant coach,
but you know his personality is such. You know, people
endure it because they know they're gonna win there, right,
They don't know they're gonna win with you. Okay. So
Parcells used to have feel that, you know, if he
kicked him in a butt, he always patted him on
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the back before the end of the day. And I
think that's how you have to coach him. Coach him hard,
give him the reason to do it, but you know,
make sure you're giving him some love and you understand
him and make sure you can make it a one
on one with them that they know that what you're
doing is the best entrance in them. Hey, Charlie, I
saw today the Ravens announced that they weren't going to
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have fans at least through the first half of the season.
It's all over the play. Some teams want to do it.
I know in New Jersey. To stay in New Jersey,
one allow the Jets and Giants to have fans period.
California the same thing the governor here. Shouldn't it be
uniform with the league or no? Or should it be
up to each individual team? Seems weird to me, you know, yeah,
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I get it. You know last week somebody asked me
that question as well. It's an individual situation. But because
I don't know how much the fans will make a difference,
it will make some difference. I mean, you put twelve
thousand people in the seventy thousand and see stadium, it
depends on where you put them. Well, you'll probably put
them in the lower bowls, spread them around and it'll work,
and you know, there will be some crowd noise in
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the game. So I think there is a little bit
of advantage of it. But I get the fact that
you know each team as individual. But you can make
the argument, and I'd have to agree with you now
that I don't know that it's fair right that it
should be the same for everybody. Just see you know,
the NBA, no fans, Major League Baseball, the NHL. I
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think that it seems weird like the Cowboys got forty
thousand and maybe not what they got one hundred thousand
seed stadium, so maybe they have twenty five or thirty thousand,
and then the Jets and Giants are playing in front
of nobody. To me, that seems like it wouldn't be right. Yeah,
it does. There is an advantage, and it's not like
everybody has the same rule. Somebody could say, well, you know,
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sometimes you could go to a game and have seventy thousand.
When that team comes to you, you got forty thousand.
Well yeah, but the point is you could sell the tickets.
You just can't sell them here. You're not allowed to
sell them, all right, Charlie lasting And we only got
about thirty seconds. But a lot of people expecting a
huge season from Kyler Murray. Is that what you see
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on the Horizon as well. Yeah, I like Kyler Murray.
I think Kyler Murray will take another step this year.
Got to protect the ball a little bit better on
the interceptions. Don't be careless. Some of it could be
his height, but no, I think he's he's he's a
star on a rise. All right, Bunk Castley, great stuff, man,
We appreciate it. Hey, Charlie, I bet at four six
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in that interview. Hey, I didn't. I didn't. I played
the double EDR. All right, thanks buddy, see you yea
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Chris and Rob wrapping up another show. Has been a
great three hours. We appreciate you staying tuned with us,
but we're gonna wrap it up. And this is an
appropriate way to wrap it up. You know, Rob, it
is Mamba Day, Mamba Day, and and that for those
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that don't know, Yesterday, August twenty three would have been
Kobe Bryant's forty second birthday, and today is eight twenty four.
That's the date. Of course, Kobe wore both numbers eight
and twenty four during his NBA career. And I also
understand that Lakers fans were going crazy on social media
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ribbed during this game with Portland because at one point
the Lakers were up twenty four to eight, So they're
all talking about Kobe looking down on them and all
that stuff. But the Lakers look great, I'll tell you that,
thirty four to fourteen with two minutes left in the
first quarter, and they're not the offense. Obviously, they got
thirty four points. They're on pace for about forty points
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this quarter. It's great. But the defense, I mean, they're
defense in the bubble have been really poor, especially on
the perimeter. But they're locking in and they're really making
it tough on Lillard and CJ. They're kind of running
them off the three point line and then when they
go to the hole they have to finish over the
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Laker bigs, which has been tough. So so far, so
good for the Lakers on this one. But we're gonna
celebrate Kobe Day or Mamba Day by celebrating let's say,
rob what are our greatest Everybody, what's your greatest moment
you feel for Kobe Bryant in your career? Maybe most memorable.
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I've got one that I don't think most people would
think of. Like when I look at some of there's
list of the top five Kobe Bryant moments or finishes
or whatever, and this one rarely makes it. But I
go back to two thousand when he was a young player,
twenty one years old, I believe, and Shack was their
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first championship and they're playing Indiana. Kobe hurt sprains his
ankles badly in game two, only plays eight minutes, sits
out the entire game three, and then plays in game
four on the ankle. That was he, in his words, robbing,
and you can see first half didn't do much. I
think he had six points, but didn't really do much.
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Second half he gets it going, plays better. They enter
overtime with the Pacers Game four, Shack fouls out with
about two and a half minutes left, and people think, Okay,
Indiana's gonna go ahead and take this, and Kobe hits
two straight jumpers and then tips in the miss from one.
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I think Brian Shaw, one of his teammates before, because
because to me, it was like that kind of solidified
Kobe as you know, his reputation, right, no matter how
many clutch jumpers he missed, his reputation is always he's
that killer and he's the guy you want with the
ball in the clutch. And I think it started right there,
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you know, because that was our first impression. Well we
saw the air boss, but this was like, Okay, he's
overcome that, you know what I mean. And so that's
why that's that's the moment that stands out for me
With Kobe. My moment is different and people might not
understand it, but maybe you will. It's his rookie year
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when he missed the two shots at the end of
the playoff game. One one was an airball, all right,
I don't think it was both. One was an airball,
but he missed both of him. Shock is on this team,
he's a rookie, and I thought, I'll never I'll never
forget it because I just thought, who is this dude? Seriously,
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I knew all the high school legends of Kobe and
all that Chris, but I was like, wait minute, Shock
is on the team and this kid has the audacity
not to not to miss two one shot Chris right,
but the miss two shots at the end of a game,
playoff game and Shack is on his team, and one
of the shots is an air ball. That that stuck
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with me, you know what I mean? I think it's
stuck with you because and obviously we have the hindsight
of what he went on to do, but it showed
his mentality, showed what he was a different kid. Right,
most kids missing the first shot would have been scared
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to death because we got shot right. So I had
a similar moment for Jordan. Remember when he hit now
he made it, but remember his shot to win the
national championship when he was a freshman. And I remember
watching that game, I mean eighth grade, and I remember
saying as soon as he took the shot, I was like, why,
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this guy's gonna be awesome because just that he took it,
because you had James Worthy, Sam Perkins, other great players
who were older than him, and he had the guts
to take the shot. So all right, it's the eye couple.
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But before we get to that, we are going to
stick with the NBA. There's so many storylines to speak of,
and um gotta be Look, we understand Ben Simmons was hurt,
but still said that right, you know, because we do
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what we do. Acknowledge that, yes, they were hampered by
not having him, but it's been Chris right, swept. Now,
I would have picked Boston anyway, even with Ben Simmons there,
but still they got swept like a piece of dust
on the floor from the Boston Celtics. And that's gonna
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be a great second round series. Boston Toronto, both of
them swept their first round series. But now the question
is what to do in Philly. Of course, Joel Nb
Ben Simmons the two young stars there, and they fired
their coach Brett Brown today I think look no long
time coming. And I think Rob they made a big mistake.
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Who was the what was the the team the bubble
and the coach of the bubble was Monty Williams and
the Phoenix Suns. Monty Williams, if you remember, Rob was
an assistant on the seventy sixers staff and people thought
that the Sixers are actually gonna hire him, it was
like last year and and move on from Brett Brown. Instead,
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they decided to keep Brett. They let Monty go to
Phoenix and they were eight knowing the bubble and they
got a nice little thing going there. I think they
should have hired Monty Williams last year, but I think Brett.
I think it's hard to fire a coach. I know
they didn't get past the second round. You're losing the
game seven on the Kauhai bouncer, do you know what
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I mean? Chris like like, that's that's that's tough. No,
I hear you. But I'm saying, is you know it
had been taught like no, I know he was saying,
I've been achieving much with him in June, but I
hear you. Was they didn't go out in the they
didn't get swept, right, you know what I mean? They
bounce away right exactly. And I'm just saying that that's
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that probably is what saved his job. Would you probably
you know what I mean, the looks of it, because
it would be like, how do you get fired? They
just lost in seven game? People with a trip, But
you're right, I mean, it was like you could look
at it like, hey, they were a bounce away from
taking out the NBA champions, the eventual NBA champions, So
(03:24):
we're close. So I get what you're saying. But but anyway,
they're looking for a new coach. And Ron Parker, you
wrote a column and on danspin dot com today. I'm
just gonna read the title and then I'm gonna let
you take it away. It's time to distrust the process.
That's a nice one and break up these loser sixers.
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There you go, being mean spirited. Well, I can't help it.
I mean it got your attention. You didn't do the headline.
I didn't write the head and my point in the
column was I get the injury. I'm not blind to it, Chris.
They've ate some blunders in the front office, right Butler left,
Tobias Harris got the big deal JJ Reddick, who they
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needed as a shooter. Remember the folks who was a
total bust, Right Horford didn't wake out. Here's the thing
with Fults though. Not only did they make the wrong
pick Rob, but they traded with Boston to get the
number one instead of number three, and they grabbed faults.
And who does Boston get with their pick, Jason Tatum exactly.
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You imagine him on this team exactly. So so the
front office hasn't helped either. But Chris, if I'm the
seventy sixers, I might have to look at it. And
we had just had Mike Breen on and of course
the voice of the NBA. And the problem I have
is those two. I'm not so sure they really go together,
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you know, like that's my biggest issue, and that's why
I would want to move on. It's not that they
can't play. And in this man's NBA, if you can't shoot,
I just don't know how valuable you are. I know,
people love Ben Simmons. Chris, he can't shoot, you know,
in transition he has to be or in the pain.
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You have a big guy who can score. Even yesterday
in being thirty points, ten rebounds, you know it, one
like he had six points or something. So I think
you could still build off of him if you could
get some other shooters or maybe trade for a draft pick.
You need shooting in this man's NBA. So I would
part with Ben Simmons, who has his own injury thing.
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I understand the MBAT thing. He's old Chris three years,
ninety five million dollars, but Ben Simmons signed last year
both five years for one hundred and seventy you know
what I mean, So that he's got a lot of
money tied in and as good as Ben Simmons is
and I recognize him as a talent, I would move
on from him and stick with him. Beat what I
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would do Rob is. I would not split them up
just yet. I would bring in a new coach that
I believe through what he tells me and shows me
in the interview and from his track record, a guy
that knows how to maximize or I believe can maximize
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these two together. And you you quoted a former NBA
coach in your story as saying something similar. What did
he say, He wouldn't do it? Yeah, he said I wouldn't.
I wouldn't break them up, honestly. Honestly, I wouldn't break
them up. I think they can coexist. Is up to
the coaches to be creative enough offensively to put them
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both in situations to be successful. They also need more
shooters on the floor. So that's my mentale I would
give it. These two are so good individually. Ben Simmons,
we all remember him in the draft and look for
all this lack of shooting, he's arguably the best defender
in the league. He's a great defender and he still
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gives you, you know, sixteen eight and eight on the
offensive end. So he's a very good player. Obviously inb
we know what he does. Individually, They're just too good
for me to break up. Now when I feel like
my coach just didn't get the best out of them.
So I would bring in that coach, whoever it may be,
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give him a season to try to put these two
together something different. And then if they go out prematurely
again and it's just not working, then I would split
him up and Rob. Here's what I would trade in
Bid right now. I mean, look, we'll see what happens
next year. Does is MB spectacular and Simmons struggles again,
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We'll see, Maybe that would change my mind, But right now,
I would trade Embid. And then and actually I think
the coach said this in your article, and I would
play Ben Simmons like Milwaukee plays Jannis, right, So I
would trade in Bed for like a perimeter star who
can shoot, and then a couple other shooters and put
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them around Simmons. And you know, he can bring the
ball up, he can you know, he's a great passer,
he can score in the post. And I would just
play off of him either pushing the ball or when
he's in the post with the ball getting double team
passing out to shooters and go from there. MB. I look,
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obviously he's a great player, but MB, to me, Rob,
and this is a good I like this discussion because
he's certainly not Shock. But people think, oh, you couldn't
have a Shock in today's game. You know, it's just
their space the floor, and you know you're trading two
for three and not. No, the problem with HIMBA, you
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could have a Shock in today's game, and Shock would
have the mentality where he would put forty on you.
He would punish you again and again and again, and
that whereas MB and I used to blame Simmons for it.
You know Simmons is in there. You put him down
low because he can't shoot. And now MBI's fade out
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to the three. No, because MB fades out to the
perimeter anyway, he's out by the three point line or
his post up. He's letting him push him out to
fifteen sixteen feet where it gets his entry passed and
then he faces up instead of being a big man
and playing down low. And so MB has to develop
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the mentality where in today's NBA, where there aren't really
any great big men other than me, I am going
to average thirty plus because down to give me the
ball every time, and I'm gonna keep doing it. And
exactly no, I agree with that, and I don't understand
why that wouldn't be the game plan considering see, that's
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why nobody get a cobody can guard him, right, nobody
can guard him. I I agree. I just help. I
just want you to sell me a little bit more
on Simmons, because how do you make it to this level, Chris?
How do you make it to this stardom where you
don't have a jump you know, like you don't have
a jump shot. I just I get it going to
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the basket, I get all the other stuff. You would
think you're just there taking a thousand shots every day,
or you got you know, Chris, you would develop a
baby hook whatever it is, something that you could just
toss or what did it call it? A tear joy
run the runner the tear drop yet right, flow that stuff. Right,
But I'm just saying, like something that could be consistent
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that you can do. I just I find it unbelievable.
Like and then you know, like he stays away from
the three. I think he made his first three last year.
Did he make his first three last year? Yeah, something
like it might have been his first, but he hit
one and it was like the world, It was like
a celebration. You know, look, I get how he can
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get to this level because he's so big, and he's
you know, he's just a great player that he could
dominate college and obviously high school without the jumper. But
the fact that he has not developed a jump shot, Rob,
that is a failure on his part. And on the
Philadelphia seventy six ers part, I agree, get somebody and
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this is look Josh Richardson said it on the record.
There was a story in Yahoo by Chris Haynes, friend
of the show FS one colleague, who said that players,
you know, just felt like Brett Brown wasn't holding him accountable.
This is an example. You have to have somebody in
the organization. Now, I get it, Rob. We've been around
the NBA and other pro sports long enough to know
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these guys make so much money. It's hard to do right.
But you got to have somebody in there. But to
get somebody shoot, you gotta learn how to shoot. Ben.
I'm saying, you gotta give somebody jumpers, But he's saying,
what are you talking about. You just gave me a
five year, one hundred and seventy million dollar contract without
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a jump shot, right, You know what? I mean, Chris,
not just because if you if you told me without
a jump shot, you're gonna make ninety and with a
jump shot one seventy, I might I might change that.
Do you know what I'm saying? Like? What is what
I do to get one seventies? Right? Right? I hear you?
And and I always say this, Rob, and this is
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true in every sport. But there are guys that love
the game. There are guys that like the game and
love what the game brings, the the money. That's actually
true in every field of endeavor. You know that you
talked to football players. There's a lot of guys who
don't like football, right, but they just but they can
make money. It's something that they can make a living. Yep.
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And and and I think the guys that love the
game are the guys that improve. And even when they
get the big money, even when they get the star status,
they still work on their game and improve. You can
see Lebron James loves the game. He's done everything you
could do and he's still working his butt off to
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try to win. And there are other guys that once
they get that money, you know, they have a great
contract year. Once they get the money they relax and
they don't improve or they get worse. And so I
gotta question how much Ben wants to be a superstar
because nobody's asking me to be Klay Thompson. But my goodness,
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shoot the ball. But here's why I would build around him,
Rob because even though he can't, like Yannis, isn't much
of a shooter. But you see the success that the
Bucks have because they put shooters around him. Now they
don't hurt them in the playoffs, you know they I
think these teams gonna box in the paint, keep those
straight line drives closed up for Yannis and for some
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body else to beat him, And I think that could
be the Bucks downfall. But they're obviously one of the
elite teams. And I think as good a passer and
playmaker as Yannis is, Ben Simmons is a better passer
and playmaker. And Ben can score in the post, so
without embating the post, it would all be long as Simmons.
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So I would build around him and have shooters around him.
Little Ben shouldn't. I'm interested to hear because what was
surprising was that column got good play Chris and the
people from Philadelphia. A lot of people actually agreed with me.
I was a little surprised. I thought I'd get some pushback,
but I got a lot of positive I know. Yeah,
you know, four people said that they agreed and two
(14:43):
said they disagree. Is that all it was? It was
a good column. It was a good column. Yeah it was.
It was a talker. So definitely we want to hear
from you eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. All right,
if they decide to break them up, who shouldn't the
Sixers look to trade in Simmons or Joe l Embi.
We will continue the conversation with you. Next is Chris
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couple Chris and Rob on The Magic City Monday and
the Lakers and Blazers just got underway less than a
(15:24):
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we asked you to call in and tell us, would
your bill around Joel embiid or Ben Simmons if you're
gonna split the duo up in Philadelphia? All right, let's
kick it off with Buck and Birmingham. You're on the
(16:10):
eye a couple of Fox Sports Radio. What you got Buck? Buck?
Go once? Okay, you had the lifelong Sixer fan. Let
me stay man Caves. I thought I wanted to get
rid of Ben Simmlons, but after his defensive problem is
what we need to do is take the ball out
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of his hand. Man, you can't play point god. After
watching Denver in Utah last night and they shoot out,
we need a point god that can shoot three points.
We don't have no cut from the opinios, I go
get rid of the coach in Game three, the Sixers
have missed so many shots. I just couldn't believe it.
That opportunity to win. They can't shoot. You got to
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shoot the rock Man. So you want to trade Simmons?
Is that what you're saying? No, I don't, don't even
one of them. Just take the burn out of simmers Man.
We need to keep it. I thought, I thought I
wanted to get rid of it. But he plays too
good at defense. What have you noticed when you watched
the sixties? When Shimmers play, he bringing the ball up
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point guard. You need he needs to be shot, period right.
He needs to shrieks Buck. We appreciate the call. Max
and Georgia. You're on the eye couple. Fox Sports Radio.
What's up Max, Hey, guys, Good good evening. I just
wanted to make a quick shout out to Reggie Miller.
Happy fifty fifth birthday. Eight points and nine seconds. Very
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impressive shout out. Yes you know what, Max. The only
thing that's more impressive. I was at that game and
he pushed down Greg Anthony. I was sitting courtside, no question,
I was sitting right on the baseline. Max. I could
see it clear as day. I'll never forget that moment yet,
shod Hey, let me run this by you guys. What
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do you think? So? I think you've got a West
Coast thing a team, and an East Coast team. The
Lakers got four guys coming up. You've got the Marcus,
you got Avery, you got Anthony Even and Raigeon. Now
you may not keep all that. Maybe you can move
some pieces, but I think I would. I would ship
and be first Rob. I think I would His health,
his lack of energy, his lack of enthusiasm, I just
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don't I don't like that. I think he's a great talent.
My biggest thing with guys his effort and energy. And
if you're not bringing both of those, I don't care
how much talent you got. You can't shoot in the
league where you gotta be a shot. I just we
five shooters, but you need at least three. If the
Raptors Kyle Lowry, Pascal Surge, Marcus, saw Fred ben Fleet,
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you know they're not going to be able to probably
keep all those guys. So I would try to make
a move. I like Pascal a lot. I would like
to get Pascal or Fred van Fleet even. I know
it's the East Coast rival, but I like to see
what you guys thought about that. I appreciate you guys,
all right, Max, appreciate the call. What about Mark and Sacramento.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Mark,
(19:02):
what's going on? Welcome back, Chris? Thank you my man. Yeah, hey,
real quick, if if I was gonna trade either one
of them, it would be indeed, because I think Simmons
has magic Johnson type skills and you gotta get him
a shot. Somebody go get the boys shot. I remember Jay,
I remember Jason Kidd didn't have a much much of
a shot either, and he found one. Matt wasn't very
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much of a shoot shooter, but he hit it. Yeah, yeah,
but he could hit it. But it could be done.
Here I'm watching him fix uh, young bad boy. His
shot looks better. Go get that coach, because this shot
now looks better. You can get this boys shot. He
needs to shoot the ball. You guys are right, but
he's got magic Johnson skills and without being be there,
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that opens up the fourth for him to get some
more shooters. I think you see a more explosive Ben
Simmons without embed there. You ask me, look ye and
then look if Jason Kidd and you remember Rob when
he entered the league, he couldn't shoot a lick. To me,
his shot was more brough. I mean, we really don't
see Ben shots, so it's hard to say who's who
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you're talking about. All you're talking about Tony Braxon or
making baskets look at you. But kids shot was terrible,
and he became a really good three point shooter. So
it can be done. You're not gonna become Klay Thompson
or Steph Curry, but you can become a pretty good shoot,
an adequate shooter if you work on it. And so
(20:30):
it shows you. Ben just hasn't worked on his jay.
Either that or he has a mental block that when
he gets in the game he's afraid to take the shot.
But I do agree with these guys. I would build
around Simmons. But you heard Max. He brought up robbed up,
so he brought up the Lakers. I don't think that's
pot that's even makes feasible. Like if could you imagine
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a d Lebron and mbid. If I'm the Lakers and
I can get it, I do that and not go school, right,
I'm trying to just kill people inside. But I don't
think that's possible. I think of Miami's a good trade
that's been brought up. Try to try to trade trade
because Butler and Joe LMB were great friends in Philly.
(21:14):
You bring you send MB down there and get some
of those shooters out of Miami. You got Tyler, hero
Duncan Robinson. I mean, and I'll tell you and and
the problem though is you you won't get past Miami.
Well Philadelphia, Yeah, I mean, let's see what MB would do.
Would he would he still be the guy floating out
(21:35):
to the perimeter or you know, I think pat Riley.
You know, we know he knows how to coach big men.
So and I know he's not the coach, but you
know he's got the ear of supposter obviously, so and
be interesting. That would be interesting. But I need to
get a haul for either one of them. I tell
you that. Oh yeah, no doubt. All right, let's do
Andrew in Massachusetts. You're on they couple Fox Sports Radio.
(21:56):
What's up with Andrew? Andre? Yeah? Andre? Why do they
put Andrew? I'm just gonna say that's rob g He
admitted it was his bad. Okay, sorry for a couple
of year, you know, to to the business. So, Chris,
I think you're on the right track. In terms of
the Miami angle, I again would build around Simmons and
(22:16):
to guard oriented game and a lot of great points
made also for me the clutch connection. You know, Ben Simmons,
the clutch sports guy, you know, so trying to leverage
that to get other stars in. But to your point
about Miami, I don't believe they're going to extend Bam
right now. I think they've made that public, you know,
and be being friends with Jimmy Butler. That could be
an opportunity where and you mentioned Duncan Robinson, Tyler hero.
(22:37):
You get a post player, you get a guard, you know,
kind of a win win and that would be a
rivalry going forward in the Eastern Conference. So, uh, the
thing is Bam doesn't shoot either. I don't I don't
hate it because obviously BAM's a great player and defensively
you'd be ferocious with Bam and Simmons, But he doesn't
shoot it either. I think he's I don't even know
(22:57):
if he's taken any threes this year, maybe three or
four of them. But that's the question. Can you have
two guys like that that don't shoot the three very well.
But good call, good call. All right. We got our man,
Charlie Castlely coming up, former NFL GM to fill us
in on all things NFL. But first, be sure to
(23:17):
catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard
and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern, four pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. All right,
thank you, Steve, it's the I Couple coming to you
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hundred nine for seven auto. The only hard part is
figuring out which way is easier. He's a former NFL
GM now an analyst for the NFL Network. Friend of
the show, Charlie Castlely, Charlie, welcome, how are you? What's up? Hey?
It's great to be with you. And I love the
historical reference to Ted Williams. And I was waiting. I
(23:58):
was waiting. I was gonna say something you want at
all the points, all the point I wanted you know,
I was gonna say that number that's one of those numbers,
Charlie that sticks in my head. Four or six. I
remember that as the last guy about four leagues, no doubt.
All right, Charlie, let's get to it. It's obviously the
question on everybody's mind. Are the Cowboys going to sign Earl? Well,
(24:23):
let me ask you this, Should they sign Earl Thomas?
In your opinion? You know, I really can't can't tell
you that, to be honest with you. It's disturbing what
happened in Baltimore. But the interesting thing was, um, he
was reported he came in great shape and looked better. Um.
(24:43):
I think what's disturbing is if you've got a guy
that's late, is not going to meetings, and you're trying
to develop a culture with a football team, Um, you
don't need that. And and now that's what if you're
looking at and they've changed the system. Okay, it's to
be a more complex system. Uh, more coverages. Okay. This
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is what he struggled with when he went to Baltimore
last year. Eventually, I guess found some way to get around.
And I saw these stats about how well he played,
they're not that accurate. Okay, he couldn't call he made
it on kind of on utation. Yeah, I think you
know there's some of that in there. So, um, I
don't know. I a little bit of buyer beware. Um
(25:27):
if you buy him, uh, just you know, realize you
may want to fire him too. So I think, yeah,
he'd be cheap. That's the good thing. I guess what's
that now, he'd come on the cheap, I would think so, yeah,
because you know, it appears there'll be some kind of
salary disputer grievance. At least that's what the story is
(25:48):
right now. It's not confirmed to me, but it seems that,
you know, Baltimore Fields, they must have some kind of
reason that they can go after his money and challenge it.
And uh and and if you have that, you go
after it. So Charlie, uh, what do you make of
the reports coming out of Patriots camp about Cam Newton
and Stidham not really playing well and it looks like
(26:12):
Cam is winning the job? Are you hearing the same stuff? Well?
I think that you know with the with the thing
with Cam now stick, Hey, first of all, you got
a short camp and if Stidham is mist some time,
that's going to hurt him. Um what I what I like?
What I hear out of? There is there adapting the
system to what he could do. And uh, Carolina, when
(26:32):
when you ask them what could he do well? He
could throw the deep ball, he could throw the deep out. Uh,
he could throw the run past option game the keepers
and call it from the line of scrimmage. In other words,
the hurry up type semi offense, all quick greed type
things and then making part of a running attack. I'm
not a big stack guy because status can make you lazy.
(26:55):
But eight runs a game, this guy seventy wins under eight,
He's under fifty percent. He's not a high percentage passer though,
and that's been you know, the weakness in his game.
Keep in the pocket mad him beat you from there.
That's the game plan against him. New England has always
thrived on you know, a guy that Brady, who had
(27:17):
great ability to read the defense and accurate. But Bet
Belichick and and H McDaniels, they have adjusted. They won.
They went ten and five with Matt Castle. I think
it was three and one with Garoppolo or four, and
I don't remember exactly. And Brissette they won with him,
so they can adjust so right now, I don't know
which way they're going to go. I think they came
(27:38):
in with the idea Stid it would be the startup
because I had to find out about him and knew
the system played well in camp a year ago, got
better in the offseason, So I mean they felt the
guy had he had first round throwman talent um. He
wasn't as consistent as you liked in college, but I
mean he could throw the ball, so you know it
might be cam. They might play him both before it's over.
But Charlie Um Joe Judge has gotten some some publicity
(28:03):
for he kind of exactly like Judge Judy. Yeah. I
mean you know he took the names off the jerseys,
and I mean you know he's saying, yeah, no, we're
not gonna sing Kumbaya. This is football. I gotta be honest.
I'm an old school guy. I kind of like that.
But is that going that style? Will that fly in today?
You don't have the modern players. No, I get it,
(28:25):
I get it, But you know, where are you out
on this, Charlie. I'd say here's how I would say it.
From the outside end. Brian Flores maybe got some kick
back early on from from people. But by the end
of the year they were playing damn good football. The
language and people were buying into a system. And I
and I look for them to really have a good
(28:46):
team may help it off season. See um. And so
here's the thing. You gotta do. The names off the jersey. Hey,
that's fine. Parcels took the star off the helmet in Dallas. Okay. Um,
you can run a tough all right. But but here's
the thing. You have to convince the players that everything
that you're doing is a reason you're doing it. They'll
(29:07):
buy in eventually. The other thing from Parcels, And you
can't be Belichick. You know, Belichick wins. He's a brilliant coach,
but you know his personality is such. You know, people
endure it because they know they're gonna win there, right,
They don't know they're gonna win with you. Okay. So
Parcells used to have feel that, you know, if he
kicked him in a butt, he always patted him on
(29:29):
the back before the end of the day. And I
think that's how you have to coach him. Coach him hard,
give him the reason to do it, but you know,
make sure you're giving him some love and you understand
him and make sure you can make it a one
on one with them that they know that what you're
doing is the best entrance in them. Hey, Charlie, I
saw today the Ravens announced that they weren't going to
(29:51):
have fans at least through the first half of the season.
It's all over the play. Some teams want to do it.
I know in New Jersey. To stay in New Jersey,
one allow the Jets and Giants to have fans period.
California the same thing the governor here. Shouldn't it be
uniform with the league or no? Or should it be
up to each individual team? Seems weird to me, you know, yeah,
(30:18):
I get it. You know last week somebody asked me
that question as well. It's an individual situation. But because
I don't know how much the fans will make a difference,
it will make some difference. I mean, you put twelve
thousand people in the seventy thousand and see stadium, it
depends on where you put them. Well, you'll probably put
them in the lower bowls, spread them around and it'll work,
and you know, there will be some crowd noise in
(30:40):
the game. So I think there is a little bit
of advantage of it. But I get the fact that
you know each team as individual. But you can make
the argument, and I'd have to agree with you now
that I don't know that it's fair right that it
should be the same for everybody. Just see you know,
the NBA, no fans, Major League Baseball, the NHL. I
(31:03):
think that it seems weird like the Cowboys got forty
thousand and maybe not what they got one hundred thousand
seed stadium, so maybe they have twenty five or thirty thousand,
and then the Jets and Giants are playing in front
of nobody. To me, that seems like it wouldn't be right. Yeah,
it does. There is an advantage, and it's not like
everybody has the same rule. Somebody could say, well, you know,
(31:25):
sometimes you could go to a game and have seventy thousand.
When that team comes to you, you got forty thousand.
Well yeah, but the point is you could sell the tickets.
You just can't sell them here. You're not allowed to
sell them, all right, Charlie lasting And we only got
about thirty seconds. But a lot of people expecting a
huge season from Kyler Murray. Is that what you see
(31:47):
on the Horizon as well. Yeah, I like Kyler Murray.
I think Kyler Murray will take another step this year.
Got to protect the ball a little bit better on
the interceptions. Don't be careless. Some of it could be
his height, but no, I think he's he's he's a
star on a rise. All right, Bunk Castley, great stuff, man,
We appreciate it. Hey, Charlie, I bet at four six
(32:09):
in that interview. Hey, I didn't. I didn't. I played
the double EDR. All right, thanks buddy, see you yea
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(32:32):
and the iHeart Radio app. Alright, it's the Eye Couple,
Chris and Rob wrapping up another show. Has been a
great three hours. We appreciate you staying tuned with us,
but we're gonna wrap it up. And this is an
appropriate way to wrap it up. You know, Rob, it
is Mamba Day, Mamba Day, and and that for those
(32:53):
that don't know, Yesterday, August twenty three would have been
Kobe Bryant's forty second birthday, and today is eight twenty four.
That's the date. Of course, Kobe wore both numbers eight
and twenty four during his NBA career. And I also
understand that Lakers fans were going crazy on social media
(33:15):
ribbed during this game with Portland because at one point
the Lakers were up twenty four to eight, So they're
all talking about Kobe looking down on them and all
that stuff. But the Lakers look great, I'll tell you that,
thirty four to fourteen with two minutes left in the
first quarter, and they're not the offense. Obviously, they got
thirty four points. They're on pace for about forty points
(33:36):
this quarter. It's great. But the defense, I mean, they're
defense in the bubble have been really poor, especially on
the perimeter. But they're locking in and they're really making
it tough on Lillard and CJ. They're kind of running
them off the three point line and then when they
go to the hole they have to finish over the
(33:58):
Laker bigs, which has been tough. So so far, so
good for the Lakers on this one. But we're gonna
celebrate Kobe Day or Mamba Day by celebrating let's say,
rob what are our greatest Everybody, what's your greatest moment
you feel for Kobe Bryant in your career? Maybe most memorable.
(34:20):
I've got one that I don't think most people would
think of. Like when I look at some of there's
list of the top five Kobe Bryant moments or finishes
or whatever, and this one rarely makes it. But I
go back to two thousand when he was a young player,
twenty one years old, I believe, and Shack was their
(34:43):
first championship and they're playing Indiana. Kobe hurt sprains his
ankles badly in game two, only plays eight minutes, sits
out the entire game three, and then plays in game
four on the ankle. That was he, in his words, robbing,
and you can see first half didn't do much. I
think he had six points, but didn't really do much.
(35:05):
Second half he gets it going, plays better. They enter
overtime with the Pacers Game four, Shack fouls out with
about two and a half minutes left, and people think, Okay,
Indiana's gonna go ahead and take this, and Kobe hits
two straight jumpers and then tips in the miss from one.
(35:25):
I think Brian Shaw, one of his teammates before, because
because to me, it was like that kind of solidified
Kobe as you know, his reputation, right, no matter how
many clutch jumpers he missed, his reputation is always he's
that killer and he's the guy you want with the
ball in the clutch. And I think it started right there,
(35:48):
you know, because that was our first impression. Well we
saw the air boss, but this was like, Okay, he's
overcome that, you know what I mean. And so that's
why that's that's the moment that stands out for me
With Kobe. My moment is different and people might not
understand it, but maybe you will. It's his rookie year
(36:09):
when he missed the two shots at the end of
the playoff game. One one was an airball, all right,
I don't think it was both. One was an airball,
but he missed both of him. Shock is on this team,
he's a rookie, and I thought, I'll never I'll never
forget it because I just thought, who is this dude? Seriously,
(36:31):
I knew all the high school legends of Kobe and
all that Chris, but I was like, wait minute, Shock
is on the team and this kid has the audacity
not to not to miss two one shot Chris right,
but the miss two shots at the end of a game,
playoff game and Shack is on his team, and one
of the shots is an air ball. That that stuck
(36:54):
with me, you know what I mean? I think it's
stuck with you because and obviously we have the hindsight
of what he went on to do, but it showed
his mentality, showed what he was a different kid. Right,
most kids missing the first shot would have been scared
(37:14):
to death because we got shot right. So I had
a similar moment for Jordan. Remember when he hit now
he made it, but remember his shot to win the
national championship when he was a freshman. And I remember
watching that game, I mean eighth grade, and I remember
saying as soon as he took the shot, I was like, why,
(37:37):
this guy's gonna be awesome because just that he took it,
because you had James Worthy, Sam Perkins, other great players
who were older than him, and he had the guts
to take the shot. So all right, it's the eye couple.
Will see you guys tomorrow. Per
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