September 2, 2020 • 39 mins
It's The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain that while they sympathize with Lou Williams when he says it's overwhelming right now as an NBA player having to focus both on winning an NBA title and trying to fight systemic racism, it's the unfortunate reality for black athletes in 2020. As the old saying goes, 'To much is given, much is required'. Plus, NBA champion Eddie House swings by to share his thoughts on the biggest storylines in the NBA Playoffs. And, The Odd Couple Crew pays their respects to the late, great Chadwick Boseman in the latest installment of Shop Talk.
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college graduate, all that, joining us at the bottom of
the hour. And we're gonna stick with the NBA because
this just that time of year, folks. And and speaking
of the NBA, the Milwaukee Bucks are in a dog fight,
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and I'm not saying you can't come back from O two,
but I'm just saying if they go down O two,
I think they're done. I picked them in seven. You know,
I would try to stay with my pick, but the
Miami Heat might just have their numbers. Sometimes it's a
matchup problem. I saw it with Lebron when they won
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sixty six games in Orlando beat them in the playoffs.
They had their number with the matchups when Lebron was
in Cleveland first go round. And if Miami has beatn
Milwaukee three out of four times this year, this would
make five out of or four out of five if
they win this. And I'm not sure that the young
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Bucks and just Bucks that haven't won anything, none of
them had won any championships. I don't know where they'll
be at mentally if they lose this one, but we'll
give them a chance. I thought Denver was done too,
all right anyway, h let's go to the Clippers, robe
who are waiting. Well, no, they got Denver and that's
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gonna be a nice series. I think Clippers. I got
Clippers in six. What about you? Same thing? Yeah? I
think since games yeah two. Yeah, they be intriguing because
Yokis is so good and you know Jamal Murray and
you know it'll be it'll be fun. But I can't
there's no way I see them beating the Clippers. Um,
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but Lou Williams was talking about just how overwhelming this
period of time is uh for NBA players and UM
specifically the boycott, but just in general with COVID and
being in the bubble and all that here here he is.
What's a lot, man, It's everything that we're dealing with
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is overwhelming. We're inside of a controlled environment outside of yesterday,
without our families. You know, we're expected to and attain
you guys, save the world, speak up on issues that
are very personal that hits home for us. So we're overwhelmed.
And so I think a lot of our opinions and
a lot of our feelings reflected that last week, and
we had another opportunity to speak again as a group
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and decided to make a decision and continue to use
our platforms. Nothing that we're dealing with is easy. Let's
not play put, put your career in jeopardy, put your
futures on hold. On how you make a livelihood. You
know a lot of people are quick to say, why
don't you guys just stop playing and just don't play
and protest, and you know those same people are going
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to go to work the next day. Sometimes I just
think we get caught up in the entertainment aspect of
this business, and people kind of forget that this is
the way that we feed our families and this is
our livelihoods, and so it's just it was an overwhelming time.
It was an overwhelming few days. I'm glad that we
got some positive steps out of it to continue on
the fight for social injustices to people of color, people
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in general who have that with police brutality. I was
I was happy that out of everything outside of the pause,
that we were able to provoke some change. So I
was proud in that estate. I think that's very well
said by Lou Williams. And I know some people might say, overwhelmed.
You're making millions of dollars to play a game. Stop it.
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Stop complaining about being at Disney World, staying in What
What What rob before Star Hotel. Probably stop it, that's
what people are saying. But I say, you're off. I
understand where lewis coming from, and I understand what you're saying.
You know, yeah, athletes have it good. But he wasn't
comparing himself to the average Joe. He wasn't complaining. He
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was just stating the fact that it is. It was
an old it's overwhelming right now because these guys are
away from their families, they're they're worried, you know, to
the degree that everybody is about COVID. They're you know,
in a just a bubble. Can be tougher on than
anyone because you're it's the same thing every single day.
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One of the coaches, I don't know if it's Mike
D'Antoni had a great quote Rob he said, every day
is Wednesday here. You know, every day that you saw
that movie with Bill Murray got up every day and
it was the same thing. And that's that's what it
feels like. And then on the top of that, they
gotta you know, they're they're fighting for social justice. So
I get where Low's coming from. I usually would, you know,
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get with the fans like, yeah, I athlete shouldn't complain,
but no, this is a little different. But go ahead rout, Yeah,
this is totally different. And I'm with lou Williams. I
get it. Talk about overwhelming. Everybody acts like it's natural
to leave your wife and kids from for six weeks
or whatever it was. Chris, right, I mean that that
that's not I mean, I know you feel, oh, you
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could sleep in. You could do whatever you want. No,
you can't. You know he misses those chicken wings. That's right,
a magic city, Chris. You I'm I'm gonna take it.
You know you can get chicken wings, just the chicken wings.
You don't have a time there where nobody's naked, Yeah
do they? Actually we could go there and nobody's dancing
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and naked. We'll put I'll put a blindfold on you
and we'll go in and get some wings. Okay, you
don't have to see what's going on. You'll be all right.
You won't. You won't turn the stone if you see
somebody's booty. It's okay, you know it ain't about that.
I'm committed, you know that. Stand that. But no, man, God,
I think lou Williams uh made a great point, and
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he did, and he was well stated that it could
be overwhelming, and it was. And I get everything going on.
People looking towards the athletes for leadership and guidance, because
let's be frank, they are the people in this country
most taken seriously because people buy into the entertainment thing. People.
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As we know, Chris, you've been to a million games.
You go to a game, a playoff game or some
World series or whatever it is, NBA Finals, and the
camaraderie and closeness of fans at a game, and what
it means to them living and dying on every shot
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or home run or whatever it is. Do you know
what I mean? Like everybody drops all of these other
issues that you might have with people, and you're wearing
the same color and hat that I am, Do you
know what I mean? And that's our team down there,
and that's probably the greatest feeling in the world. And
that's why I think athletics is so important in this country.
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You know, they really are, because it's it's something that
people can can grasp together a common ground and let
down all those other things that keep us separate. Does
that make sense? Yes? Yes. But you know, we were
talking earlier with Rob g and he said he doesn't
think it should be on the athletes to speak out
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about social justice and all that. And I said this,
and we agree, Rob. African Americans long for the day
when our athletes don't have to speak out. Let's just
keep it real. This is all about race. Everything you
said about sports and Americas is all true. But the
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white athlete does not have this burden on you of
speaking for his race, fighting for equality for his race,
and justice and having to know about political issues. No,
Michael Jordan was killed because he didn't speak out on
social issues. No white athlete would go through that. I'll
give you know what. Here's another one. When a black
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athlete signs a big contract, because you know what they do,
You're gonna go back to the community and help your
community or build the center or donate money. White athletes
are never ad that right after they signed a big contract.
No one's asked Gordon Hayward, well, what are you gonna do?
Are you going back to your to your community and
you're gonna help the youth? And you know, but they
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don't have to. It's because the society, the system. Let's
just face it. When people say this country was set
up for white people, it was. It was created for
white people, and the system catches white people. There's a
safety net there. For the most part, African America is
not the case. So we have to do it ourselves.
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And that's what people when they say systemic change, systemic
change will really come when our athletes don't have to
speak out. When that safety net is there for us too,
when all the advantages and things that whites get, Blacks
and other races are getting as well. And I look,
I feel it myself, every successful African American rob you
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know this, what do we do we? I mean, there
are something that might just totally turn their back on
our people, but most of us we want to help.
We reach back, We mentor we bring others into the business,
whatever it is, we reach back because we know we've
got that responsibility. And I think, look, I've said it before,
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I said again, African American athletes have power that your
average even successful African American doesn't have. They are the
most beloved African Americans on the earth. They're the most
well connected to the corporate dollars because they Everybody wants
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to endorse them. Everybody wants to play golf with them,
Everybody wants to be in their presence, go out to
dinner with them. They're the most uh, they're the wealthiest
buy in large. If you look at the top ten
African wealthiest African Americans, virtually all of them, eight or
nine of the ten will have made it from entertainment
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or sports. Oprah. Bob Johnson, who owned created BT Tiger Woods,
Jay Z Didty, uh, George Michael Jordan's and then they're
the most irreplaceable. That's it. Your average person of every
race is somewhat replaceable, your average guy of every race.
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But these guys, these athletes, you can't find anybody walking
on the street who could throw a ball or hit
a home run, right, or you can't. Right. They're white
ones in like baseball and some other sports that are irreplaceable.
So I'm not just saying the black ones. The black
ones are irreplaceable, and so that gives them leverage that
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can you imagine? Rob And we talked about this a
few days ago. If the NFL players boycotted, people were like, oh,
I don't need them a they can boycott forever fall
I care. They can go see what kind of job
they get after that. Oh, they won't say that about
football because people are too tied into it. Sunday is
all about football. Uh Now, Monday and some Saturdays and
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Thursdays are also about football. Everybody's got their fantasy leagues.
Some people got as minis what twenty twenty two dozen
fantasy teams while they're making money off of it. There's
an right, there's no way America could do without the
black football player in particular or the black athlete in general.
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And so that gives us a power that unfortunately we're
in a position where we need them to use it.
We do. And and Rob, I think I'll speak for
you when I say this, We can't wait for the
day when they don't have to, when they can just
be a baseball player and about it exactly and they
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could just go ahead when they sign a big contract.
Bay asking what they're gonna do with them money, you
know what I mean, and all the other stuff that
goes on, feeling like you have to look at the
black athletes, even Chris, we talk about it, feel like
they got to donate money back to their universities, these
rich universities. Right, that's the question that's put on them,
Like really, yep, you're asking me from you got an
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endowment of two billion dollars and you want money from me?
All yeah, I'll hear you on that one, all right,
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we threw it out to you. Do you guys think
that the black athletes have the responsibility to speak out
on these social issues and use their great platform. I do.
I think rober Greece right, because as much as I
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love Michael Jordan, just you know, his ability, that was
his shortcoming. I think he could have changed some things
and he was powerful enough to do it right. And
without he wouldn't have even lost fans. He wouldn't have
lost any fans and anything. And uh he just it
just wasn't in his DNA. But but you know, it's
not for everybody. But I wish he would have in
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a couple of instances. I don't want somebody on a
soapbox quis every week talking about everything that's not okay.
If Tiger Woods almost if you remember Tiger Woods, his
first commercial with Nike, Chris was about golf clubs wouldn't
wouldn't let me play on the course? You remember that
was commercials. Those were the original commercials with Tiger Woods,
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and somebody got to him, and I remember when that
the Masters. He could have spoke out and said, I'm
not playing at the Masters until ay allowed women and
black people to join the club. How quickly would that
have changed? It thinks Chris that would have been in
his wheelhouse right immediate. But that's because that's his golf,
that's his game, right. We're not talking about him talking
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about the academic standards at Michigan or something else that
he's not familiar with. That right, there is something he
could have changed if he wanted to, and he didn't know.
All right, let's go to Troy and Columbus, Georgia. You're
on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What you got?
He go, Chris, you know what it says yesterday, but
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the day I didn't want to say. I don't think
you really have to speak on ingesting uh, United States.
I just think it's just in our human nature from
the generation generation of poverty, insted. I think we're just
built for it. Well, like Rob said, everybody doesn't do
it and he couldn't handle it. But even I mean
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Michael Jordan was as mentally tough as they come. And
that wasn't his lane. And as Rob said, it's fine
if it's not his lane. But the position African Americans
are in, we need to do it because we need
all hands on deck. I mean, I'll go back. Look
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when African Americans were in slavery, rob the free. Those
who got free, A lot of them came back and
fought for the slaves, and some chill, some just lived
their own nice life in freedom. But we needed those
to come back and fight for it and fight for abolition.
And I know we're not in slavery, but we still
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have it fully arrived in this country. So we need
guys to talk about it and push for it. Mike
in DC, you're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Mike? Treat my call? You know, Um, yeah,
I think it's I think it's a responsibility. But I
think that you know, these are profound questions that journalists
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posed to an athlete as far as social issues, and
I think that they can do their research and come back,
you know, as a group, they can collect the inte
their research and their strengthen numbers. So I think that
you know, that really helps a lot, and hey, Rob,
you're a baseball aficionado, right, yes, well a baseball I got.
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I got the perfect solutions for these guys that are
throwing at batter's heads. And this is where analytics can
really play a part. You don't suspend the guy for
five games. You suspend a starting picture for five starts,
which would probably encompass twenty games. Oh no, wow. You
could do the same thing with a relief picture based
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on appearances in the past, and you would that stop.
You would see that stop immediately. Mike, I don't Mike,
I don't disagree. If you if a guy, if a
starter missed five starts, it would be huge to a team.
And the same thing with a reliever because Walter's Chapman
from the Yankees got suspended Christophers. You know, right, Thanks Mike, Thanks,
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we appreciate. Let's go to Sean in Sacramento. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Uncle's from another mother.
Men too long, y'are how y'all doing? I know where
you saying? Man, you know you know y'all the highest
show on a network. Man, It's hard to get in
on these lines, man, So I feel blessing even that
made it through. How blessed Rob for putting me through
too for the take? Are you? Are you one of
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those million people downloading the podcast or you get to
listen to the show. Oh? Now, only about one of
the million people down on the podcast. I listened to
the show, and I advertised, y'all to anybody that gotta
give me the year I got about four of my
boys got does switch from the other network radio shows
to y'all. So y'all know Fox Sports Radio number one
on all of our hearts. Baby, my man, we appreciate that, brother,
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appreciate that. Yeah, But real quick, man, my take is,
I don't feel like it is a black athlete's responsibility
to go out there and try to make some kind
of political state and all the time. But once they do,
I'm talking about you, Lebron, I'm talking about ju Colin Kaepernick.
You gotta continue to raise your voice and continue to
keep that going. God bless you, because there's nothing worse
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and getting out there and speaking one day and then
all of a sudden being silent to where we don't
even know what's going on in your head. Or once
we challenge you with something like Hong kong Lebron all
of a sudden doesn't want to speak about it anymore
and take Nike sight on everything. You gotta be consistent
and even bigger than that, it's every one of our
responsibilities to get out there and vote. It's great to
have a voice, but if you're not getting out there
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and impacting the way our political environment is actually shaping
up to be, then you're doing absolutely nothing. So I
appreciate y'all continue to do with what y'all doing on
the radio and hopefully influences all our brothers and assistants
in November to get out there and make the right choice.
Thanks Sean. All right, ma man, appreciate that eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox is the number, and yeah,
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we got we can squeeze one more. Chris, let's do
Andre in Massachusetts. You're in the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Andre? How are you guys doing?
Thanks for taking my call. Got to agree with Sean.
I don't think it's African American athletes responsibility to take
the lead on political issues. I feel the responsibility to
partner with the existing African American professional and progressive community.
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What do I mean there's more African American cardiologists two
times than in our basketball players. There's more brain surgeons. Okay,
there's ten times more. Excuse me, it's one hundred percent
times more African American lawyers and physicians than there are athletes.
So this idea that we have to put all the
eggs in the basket of the professional athlete to push
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our causes that have been we've been advocating for for
hundreds of years, I think is misplaced. I think that
to Chris's point about these being the most notable, the
most popular, and defect their celebrity, that they have that influence,
but they need to partner with the already existing community
for that for their influence to have lasting change, you know,
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instead of them doing the entire programming and messaging on
their own. I think that's at frankly misplaced. That's a
good call, Andre, because I agree. I do think our
athletes should partner with educators, with entrepreneurs, with lawyers, with economists,
because yeah, a few athletes are really well versed on
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this stuff, but most of them are, and that's fine.
Most American citizens aren't well versed on this type of stuff,
but they're speaking on powerful issues, and so I would
like them to partner with people that are experts in
some of these situations. And I get that, but still ability,
it's about a platform and being able to and unfortunately
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the people they listen to. Chris, you could have a
group of cardiologists band together, and I doubt they get
the stage. Do you know what I mean? Right, They're
not gonna They can do work in their field and
in their office, you know, and in their town. But yeah,
they don't have the national or international platform. But that's
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why they have. They may have the expertise and they
can partner with those that do have the platform. I say,
athletes sound the alarm and then you bring in the
experts to really show you how to turn it into
real change. All Right, the Bucks are making a rally
seventy eight. All now, Rob left when everybody was ready
to bury them in the first quarter or whatever. I
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just I'll tell you I'm not back. You can't do that.
It's a long game. The Bucks haven't gotten here by accident,
That's all I'm gonna say. All Right, let's hear from
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the Odd Couple. NBA Champion Eddie House, what's up man?
What's going on? Andy? What that mean is I'm y'all Pottinger,
That's what that means. That's right, that's right. And Eddie,
we were just having a discussion based on what Lou.
I don't know if you saw Lou Williams comments when
he talked about how overwhelming it's been for the athletes
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to you know, be in the bubble, dealing with COVID,
playing you know, in front of no fans all the
way from their family, and then dealing with the social issues.
He caught it overwhelming, and we're talking about it's unfortunate
We long for the day when when African American athletes,
particularly the superstars, don't have to speak out on these issues,
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because that'll mean we've arrived. Then those issues aren't you know,
specific to us anymore. But do you feel like you
know that our athletes, we do need them to speak
out because of the plight of African American people. I
think so. I think because it's not for us, the
old heads, the ogs, it's really for the youngsters, for
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the younger, younger ones, the younger generation coming up to
hear what because they're athletes, musicians, actors, people, entertainment are
most of the time the people that youngsters look up to,
you know, and admire and want to us try to
be like you know, we be like Mike. So when
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a guy comes out and it's a great opportunity in
the stage for them to set the president and also
bring awareness to things that are going on, for these
junctions to understand what's really going on and what they're
up against. So I think it's it's a great I
think it's it's definitely a responsibility that some of us
have as athletes to make sure that the message that
we're sending is the right message, and for Lou Williams
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to say what he says, I mean, you know, if
people want to really listen to what he's saying, we
have to take a step back and look at what's
really going on and what we've asked them to do
to go into this bubble to put on entertainment for us,
you know. And I think that's the respect that you
know a lot of times that gets lost. You think that,
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hey man, they just athletes. They just go out there
and play. No, people have families, people have other things
going on. People are actually have you know, issues beyond
you know, not only the social issues that's going on,
but they also have you know, personal issues are going
We talk about what Paul George was going through, you know,
with depression and things like that, and even Kevin loved
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the same thing. So I think what Lou Williams did
was just highlighted exactly what a lot of athletes have
been saying that hey man, and especially with Lebron said,
we're more than the athletes, man, you know, you know,
take a look at us what we really are, and
we're just human beings. We're out here, we are entertaining
at the same time, you know, respect what's going on
and how we're doing it. For you guys, what do
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you make of Utah up three to one in that
series and they wound up choking it down and not
being able to beat Denver. I agree with Chris Denver's
probably the better is the better team on paper, but
they should have won that series. What happened there, Yeah,
I wouldn't say they choked down. Um. I think that
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that was one of those series that we figured it
should go seven games. Both of them was evenly matched.
I think Mike Conley didn't didn't didn't show up. You
hate to say that. As good as he's he's been
in the past, and he's been in big games and
solid of a point guard is I think at times,
and even yesterday, you could see it. He got the
ball in a certain situations. It looked like he wanted
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to get the ball out of his hands, and those
are I think when you have a point guard that
can make play not only for himself before others, you
need to have a guy that wants to be in
that situation and not looking for somebody else and defer
and at that particular time also, I think uh uh,
Bob Donovich I think not having him was a big
h you know, a piece of what they what they
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could do. The Yeah, so I think, you know, missing
him was huge for them, but you know, no excuses
and and at the end of the day, you got
to give all praises to UH Denver and what they did,
and Jamal Murray out there the way he played, um
yokis the way he played, and Gary Harris on Donovan
Mitchell late in the game, his defensive effort, his being
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a pest and making everything hard for Donovan Mitchell. You
got to give credit to the Denver Denver Nuggets, Eddie
whose legacy is most on the line tonight, James Harden,
Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul who Foo foo Chris and I
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h that go ahead. I was just gonna say, I
don't want to say who we said, but we we
we each had somebody different. So I'm just curious to
where you fit in with those three guys. I think
at this point, I really I would think that I
don't think neither none of those three guys. I think
they can come back. You know, whose legacy I think
is more on the line, as is Mike D'Antoni. Um.
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I think his coaching ability, the way he coaches. Um,
you gotta look at the last couple of possessions of
that game with Houston. You gotta Russell Westbrook, who has
he played defense, you know, but not to up to
his level. Hasn't played you know what I mean, He's
been on the sideline. You do not put the ball
in a guy like that hand, as much as you
would want to for those possessions, especially when a guy
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you have, somebody like James Harden, who can make plays,
who can score, who is probably the best one on
one player in the league right now, Why would you
not have the ball in his hands every possession going
down the stretch, especially like under a minute. You know,
if you get an opportunity to get the ball should
be in his hands. And I think that's whose legacy
is on the line more than those players, because those
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players still have an opportunity to write the rest of
their legacy. They could either one of the either one
of those players that you name could lose, right and
they can still have an opportunity next year to come back.
Mike D'Antoni might not have that opportunity with his contract
being up. Somebody might take the risk or not say
take the risk, but somebody else might go on and
hire him, but he will not have those superstars that
(30:38):
he has in Houston and the opportunity to do something
special like he does right now. A lot about quickly.
So who the guys you got? I want to know
who you got? Said Harden. I said Paul, only from
the standpoint that he was dumbed. And we've seen this
movie before where he has these great game sixes and
then uh, you know, is h m I in this
(31:01):
Game seven? And if he would able to win this
and he would just have something to gain, people would
have to look at him a little different because he
was the one that was dumped and they thought they
didn't need him anymore. That's why I thought it would see.
I think CB three's legacy is set all time great
point guard, right, but we know he's not leading the
team to a championship. I mean he's just not at
(31:23):
this stage of his career. He had some great teammates
and with the Clippers and it just not gonna happen.
And I don't think just getting to the second round
is gonna change that. Now, it'll Rob's right, I mean,
people would be like, Wow, it's a great story, you know,
but we'll forget about this overall. And you know, his
legacy has said. I think Russ is set too. I
(31:44):
just Eddie, and I love Russ. I think he's gonna
be iconic in history for those three straight triple double seasons.
But I don't think you he's can lead the team
to a championship the way he plays. So I think
the only I don't really think Harden can either. I
think he's gonna have to. He can be the number
one guy. But when one guy does so much, I
(32:05):
just think it's hard to win the championship. And but
he's still got more time than the other two, I think,
And so you know, we've seen him struggle a little
bit at times in the playoffs. So that's why I
went with Harden. But uh, Dan Tony, you're right, Dan
Tony's you know, he gotta put up a shut up two,
that's for sure. So all right, Eddie, great stuff is
(32:27):
always Mannie. Did you real real quick? We got fifteen seconds.
Tom sever just passed seventy five years old. Did you
like Tom Sever as a pitch you when you're a kid. Yeah,
I wasn't a kid man. What do you. But I
wasn't a I was so young. I'm not your age. Rob.
I'm sorry you're a little older than me. You know
what I'm saying. I was still having still had mickey
(32:47):
in my mouth at that time. I always you're so
much sure. I always think of time. I always think
of you as older than you are. How old are you?
Forty two? Oh? You're young? Yeah, I mean you not
in the same He knows the leg I know he does.
He knows baseball bad. Yeah, don't feel bad. I'm not
(33:09):
in Rob's generation whatever. I mean whatever, that's a whole
generation man. All Right, Daddy will appreciate brother. All y'all
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is shop talk. The Akapa Fox Sports Raider the segment
where we discussed something that happen outside of the world
of sports, and this week's topic is not a fun one,
(34:13):
but it is when we got to do rest in
peace to the late great Chadwick Bowsman who passed away
over the weekend at the very young age. I believe
it was forty three, and so prayers out to his
friends and family. He passed away of colon cancer. But
it got us thinking, guys, he's a tremendous talent, and
(34:33):
we wanted to know what was your favorite either role
or movie from Chadwick Boseman during his brief career. It
was forty two, and I know he's done other other
roles and everybody critically acclaimed and money as far as
The Black Panther and I saw that and I loved
that movie. And he's done so many different things. He's
(34:56):
such a great actor. He was but he was Jackie Robins.
He became Jackie rob I loved that story. It was
hard to watch some of the scenes, but I loved it.
I absolutely loved it. Um, he's a tremendous He was
a tremendous actor. He was. I just he played, like
(35:17):
you said, Jackie Robinson, The Panther, he played third Good Marshall.
Another one, James James Brown. So look, the most iconic
movies he was in were forty two and Black Panther
and probably the most I would say, the most important
ones he was in as well, and I loved all
of them, but I feel like my favorite one of
(35:39):
those movies was Get On Up. And I think maybe
I just wanted to see the James Brown story, you know.
I mean I know about James Brown and the guy
father soul and my parents, my father, my parents were
such big fans. He's the guyfather hip hop too, because
they say him put the heck out of him. They
(36:01):
just took his whole, his whole. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
But I really was into that story. So for me
right now, I feel like just that was the story
that comes to my mind. But obviously Black Panther, I
mean that inspired so many people. In forty two, he
(36:23):
was great, though it was really sad. What about you, Robi, Well,
like you said, he was incredible talent, gone way too
soon as I think this gets three years oldless this
gets lost in the story is that he was diagnosed
in twenty sixteen and still filmed movies while doing surgeries
and chemo. I mean, that guy was a real life
superhero for real and at the end you saw them
(36:47):
at the end. Then he was gone and he never
even still then didn't say it. No, no, it's the
same thing that took my friend in Detroit, my uh
former colleague at w DF and Detroit, Jamie Samuelson. He
had colon cancer forty eight years old. He died. So
it's it's what's what kind of cancer did Stewart Scott?
(37:08):
Have you remember? I don't think it was colon cancer,
it was it was some form of cancer. But he
had killed though he didn't make it, he kept Stewart
was doing Mma and I mean he really went all
out to enjoy, you know, I asked, I was saying
life did yeah the movie? Did you like? Well? Chris
(37:30):
stole my thunder a little bit. I am a huge
James Brown fan, and Get On Up was awesome. I
loved seeing um Chadwick Boseman play James Brown. I mean,
it's just devastating. Guys, I mean he was just getting started.
I know he was already the star, but his start
could have right, No, he start could have been brighter though.
He could have been like he probably would have been
the Denzel Washington. Right, So did you say just shut out?
(37:52):
He was gonna be the kind of tree and already
had those big movies already. I mean he had many
years to make movies. Yeah. Right, And one thing I
did want to say, guys, now we all agree he's
an incredible talent and a great dramatic actor. He has
a lot of Christmas on screen. We saw that in
Black Panther. I don't know if you guys have ever
seen this, but his Saturday Night Live performance that he
(38:14):
did when he hosted that one night, it brought out
a different side of him he don't really see in
a lot of his movies, and how funny he was.
And so to me, that was something that was always
my favorite. I'd love to see people get out of
the zone. Right. I didn't see that, right, did you
see it? Rob? No? But I love saying you got
to watch it. I mean, because he was really funny.
(38:35):
Check out the Jeopardy segment, the one that they did.
It was one of the funniest was it black Jeopardy?
Is that No, it was a regular Jeopardy, but he
was he was playing a king to Challa on Jeopardy,
and so it was. It was hilarious. Right, did I
see that? You gotta watch it? Okay, I'm gonna have
to definitely check that out. Yeah, we lost a great one.
There's no if Sam's butts about it, and that's that's it.
(38:59):
We were saying that too much in twenty twenty. Do
you know what I just tweeted? Lost another legend? Damn you.
Twenty twenty, we have lost so many people. This is
young and my my right mind, Booby Chad, we've both
been young. Just ye, mind boggling. Yep. All right, we
got two hours left the I couple, you know what
to do. I'm sorry, one hour left, keep it locked.
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college graduate, all that, joining us at the bottom of
the hour. And we're gonna stick with the NBA because
this just that time of year, folks. And and speaking
of the NBA, the Milwaukee Bucks are in a dog fight,
(01:09):
and I'm not saying you can't come back from O two,
but I'm just saying if they go down O two,
I think they're done. I picked them in seven. You know,
I would try to stay with my pick, but the
Miami Heat might just have their numbers. Sometimes it's a
matchup problem. I saw it with Lebron when they won
(01:30):
sixty six games in Orlando beat them in the playoffs.
They had their number with the matchups when Lebron was
in Cleveland first go round. And if Miami has beatn
Milwaukee three out of four times this year, this would
make five out of or four out of five if
they win this. And I'm not sure that the young
(01:50):
Bucks and just Bucks that haven't won anything, none of
them had won any championships. I don't know where they'll
be at mentally if they lose this one, but we'll
give them a chance. I thought Denver was done too,
all right anyway, h let's go to the Clippers, robe
who are waiting. Well, no, they got Denver and that's
(02:11):
gonna be a nice series. I think Clippers. I got
Clippers in six. What about you? Same thing? Yeah? I
think since games yeah two. Yeah, they be intriguing because
Yokis is so good and you know Jamal Murray and
you know it'll be it'll be fun. But I can't
there's no way I see them beating the Clippers. Um,
(02:32):
but Lou Williams was talking about just how overwhelming this
period of time is uh for NBA players and UM
specifically the boycott, but just in general with COVID and
being in the bubble and all that here here he is.
What's a lot, man, It's everything that we're dealing with
(02:52):
is overwhelming. We're inside of a controlled environment outside of yesterday,
without our families. You know, we're expected to and attain
you guys, save the world, speak up on issues that
are very personal that hits home for us. So we're overwhelmed.
And so I think a lot of our opinions and
a lot of our feelings reflected that last week, and
we had another opportunity to speak again as a group
(03:14):
and decided to make a decision and continue to use
our platforms. Nothing that we're dealing with is easy. Let's
not play put, put your career in jeopardy, put your
futures on hold. On how you make a livelihood. You
know a lot of people are quick to say, why
don't you guys just stop playing and just don't play
and protest, and you know those same people are going
(03:35):
to go to work the next day. Sometimes I just
think we get caught up in the entertainment aspect of
this business, and people kind of forget that this is
the way that we feed our families and this is
our livelihoods, and so it's just it was an overwhelming time.
It was an overwhelming few days. I'm glad that we
got some positive steps out of it to continue on
the fight for social injustices to people of color, people
(03:58):
in general who have that with police brutality. I was
I was happy that out of everything outside of the pause,
that we were able to provoke some change. So I
was proud in that estate. I think that's very well
said by Lou Williams. And I know some people might say, overwhelmed.
You're making millions of dollars to play a game. Stop it.
(04:22):
Stop complaining about being at Disney World, staying in What
What What rob before Star Hotel. Probably stop it, that's
what people are saying. But I say, you're off. I
understand where lewis coming from, and I understand what you're saying.
You know, yeah, athletes have it good. But he wasn't
comparing himself to the average Joe. He wasn't complaining. He
(04:46):
was just stating the fact that it is. It was
an old it's overwhelming right now because these guys are
away from their families, they're they're worried, you know, to
the degree that everybody is about COVID. They're you know,
in a just a bubble. Can be tougher on than
anyone because you're it's the same thing every single day.
(05:07):
One of the coaches, I don't know if it's Mike
D'Antoni had a great quote Rob he said, every day
is Wednesday here. You know, every day that you saw
that movie with Bill Murray got up every day and
it was the same thing. And that's that's what it
feels like. And then on the top of that, they
gotta you know, they're they're fighting for social justice. So
I get where Low's coming from. I usually would, you know,
(05:28):
get with the fans like, yeah, I athlete shouldn't complain,
but no, this is a little different. But go ahead rout, Yeah,
this is totally different. And I'm with lou Williams. I
get it. Talk about overwhelming. Everybody acts like it's natural
to leave your wife and kids from for six weeks
or whatever it was. Chris, right, I mean that that
that's not I mean, I know you feel, oh, you
(05:50):
could sleep in. You could do whatever you want. No,
you can't. You know he misses those chicken wings. That's right,
a magic city, Chris. You I'm I'm gonna take it.
You know you can get chicken wings, just the chicken wings.
You don't have a time there where nobody's naked, Yeah
do they? Actually we could go there and nobody's dancing
(06:12):
and naked. We'll put I'll put a blindfold on you
and we'll go in and get some wings. Okay, you
don't have to see what's going on. You'll be all right.
You won't. You won't turn the stone if you see
somebody's booty. It's okay, you know it ain't about that.
I'm committed, you know that. Stand that. But no, man, God,
I think lou Williams uh made a great point, and
(06:34):
he did, and he was well stated that it could
be overwhelming, and it was. And I get everything going on.
People looking towards the athletes for leadership and guidance, because
let's be frank, they are the people in this country
most taken seriously because people buy into the entertainment thing. People.
(06:57):
As we know, Chris, you've been to a million games.
You go to a game, a playoff game or some
World series or whatever it is, NBA Finals, and the
camaraderie and closeness of fans at a game, and what
it means to them living and dying on every shot
(07:20):
or home run or whatever it is. Do you know
what I mean? Like everybody drops all of these other
issues that you might have with people, and you're wearing
the same color and hat that I am, Do you
know what I mean? And that's our team down there,
and that's probably the greatest feeling in the world. And
that's why I think athletics is so important in this country.
(07:43):
You know, they really are, because it's it's something that
people can can grasp together a common ground and let
down all those other things that keep us separate. Does
that make sense? Yes? Yes. But you know, we were
talking earlier with Rob g and he said he doesn't
think it should be on the athletes to speak out
(08:04):
about social justice and all that. And I said this,
and we agree, Rob. African Americans long for the day
when our athletes don't have to speak out. Let's just
keep it real. This is all about race. Everything you
said about sports and Americas is all true. But the
(08:26):
white athlete does not have this burden on you of
speaking for his race, fighting for equality for his race,
and justice and having to know about political issues. No,
Michael Jordan was killed because he didn't speak out on
social issues. No white athlete would go through that. I'll
give you know what. Here's another one. When a black
(08:49):
athlete signs a big contract, because you know what they do,
You're gonna go back to the community and help your
community or build the center or donate money. White athletes
are never ad that right after they signed a big contract.
No one's asked Gordon Hayward, well, what are you gonna do?
Are you going back to your to your community and
you're gonna help the youth? And you know, but they
(09:12):
don't have to. It's because the society, the system. Let's
just face it. When people say this country was set
up for white people, it was. It was created for
white people, and the system catches white people. There's a
safety net there. For the most part, African America is
not the case. So we have to do it ourselves.
(09:34):
And that's what people when they say systemic change, systemic
change will really come when our athletes don't have to
speak out. When that safety net is there for us too,
when all the advantages and things that whites get, Blacks
and other races are getting as well. And I look,
I feel it myself, every successful African American rob you
(09:57):
know this, what do we do we? I mean, there
are something that might just totally turn their back on
our people, but most of us we want to help.
We reach back, We mentor we bring others into the business,
whatever it is, we reach back because we know we've
got that responsibility. And I think, look, I've said it before,
(10:20):
I said again, African American athletes have power that your
average even successful African American doesn't have. They are the
most beloved African Americans on the earth. They're the most
well connected to the corporate dollars because they Everybody wants
(10:42):
to endorse them. Everybody wants to play golf with them,
Everybody wants to be in their presence, go out to
dinner with them. They're the most uh, they're the wealthiest
buy in large. If you look at the top ten
African wealthiest African Americans, virtually all of them, eight or
nine of the ten will have made it from entertainment
(11:03):
or sports. Oprah. Bob Johnson, who owned created BT Tiger Woods,
Jay Z Didty, uh, George Michael Jordan's and then they're
the most irreplaceable. That's it. Your average person of every
race is somewhat replaceable, your average guy of every race.
(11:27):
But these guys, these athletes, you can't find anybody walking
on the street who could throw a ball or hit
a home run, right, or you can't. Right. They're white
ones in like baseball and some other sports that are irreplaceable.
So I'm not just saying the black ones. The black
ones are irreplaceable, and so that gives them leverage that
(11:51):
can you imagine? Rob And we talked about this a
few days ago. If the NFL players boycotted, people were like, oh,
I don't need them a they can boycott forever fall
I care. They can go see what kind of job
they get after that. Oh, they won't say that about
football because people are too tied into it. Sunday is
all about football. Uh Now, Monday and some Saturdays and
(12:14):
Thursdays are also about football. Everybody's got their fantasy leagues.
Some people got as minis what twenty twenty two dozen
fantasy teams while they're making money off of it. There's
an right, there's no way America could do without the
black football player in particular or the black athlete in general.
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And so that gives us a power that unfortunately we're
in a position where we need them to use it.
We do. And and Rob, I think I'll speak for
you when I say this, We can't wait for the
day when they don't have to, when they can just
be a baseball player and about it exactly and they
(12:56):
could just go ahead when they sign a big contract.
Bay asking what they're gonna do with them money, you
know what I mean, and all the other stuff that
goes on, feeling like you have to look at the
black athletes, even Chris, we talk about it, feel like
they got to donate money back to their universities, these
rich universities. Right, that's the question that's put on them,
Like really, yep, you're asking me from you got an
(13:19):
endowment of two billion dollars and you want money from me?
All yeah, I'll hear you on that one, all right,
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messing up the words. Gloria, Holly Louis, Rob Parker, you
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Look at you. You make me sing the Jeffersons and
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we threw it out to you. Do you guys think
that the black athletes have the responsibility to speak out
on these social issues and use their great platform. I do.
I think rober Greece right, because as much as I
(15:30):
love Michael Jordan, just you know, his ability, that was
his shortcoming. I think he could have changed some things
and he was powerful enough to do it right. And
without he wouldn't have even lost fans. He wouldn't have
lost any fans and anything. And uh he just it
just wasn't in his DNA. But but you know, it's
not for everybody. But I wish he would have in
(15:52):
a couple of instances. I don't want somebody on a
soapbox quis every week talking about everything that's not okay.
If Tiger Woods almost if you remember Tiger Woods, his
first commercial with Nike, Chris was about golf clubs wouldn't
wouldn't let me play on the course? You remember that
was commercials. Those were the original commercials with Tiger Woods,
(16:13):
and somebody got to him, and I remember when that
the Masters. He could have spoke out and said, I'm
not playing at the Masters until ay allowed women and
black people to join the club. How quickly would that
have changed? It thinks Chris that would have been in
his wheelhouse right immediate. But that's because that's his golf,
that's his game, right. We're not talking about him talking
(16:34):
about the academic standards at Michigan or something else that
he's not familiar with. That right, there is something he
could have changed if he wanted to, and he didn't know.
All right, let's go to Troy and Columbus, Georgia. You're
on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What you got?
He go, Chris, you know what it says yesterday, but
(16:54):
the day I didn't want to say. I don't think
you really have to speak on ingesting uh, United States.
I just think it's just in our human nature from
the generation generation of poverty, insted. I think we're just
built for it. Well, like Rob said, everybody doesn't do
it and he couldn't handle it. But even I mean
(17:19):
Michael Jordan was as mentally tough as they come. And
that wasn't his lane. And as Rob said, it's fine
if it's not his lane. But the position African Americans
are in, we need to do it because we need
all hands on deck. I mean, I'll go back. Look
(17:40):
when African Americans were in slavery, rob the free. Those
who got free, A lot of them came back and
fought for the slaves, and some chill, some just lived
their own nice life in freedom. But we needed those
to come back and fight for it and fight for abolition.
And I know we're not in slavery, but we still
(18:02):
have it fully arrived in this country. So we need
guys to talk about it and push for it. Mike
in DC, you're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Mike? Treat my call? You know, Um, yeah,
I think it's I think it's a responsibility. But I
think that you know, these are profound questions that journalists
(18:23):
posed to an athlete as far as social issues, and
I think that they can do their research and come back,
you know, as a group, they can collect the inte
their research and their strengthen numbers. So I think that
you know, that really helps a lot, and hey, Rob,
you're a baseball aficionado, right, yes, well a baseball I got.
(18:43):
I got the perfect solutions for these guys that are
throwing at batter's heads. And this is where analytics can
really play a part. You don't suspend the guy for
five games. You suspend a starting picture for five starts,
which would probably encompass twenty games. Oh no, wow. You
could do the same thing with a relief picture based
(19:03):
on appearances in the past, and you would that stop.
You would see that stop immediately. Mike, I don't Mike,
I don't disagree. If you if a guy, if a
starter missed five starts, it would be huge to a team.
And the same thing with a reliever because Walter's Chapman
from the Yankees got suspended Christophers. You know, right, Thanks Mike, Thanks,
(19:26):
we appreciate. Let's go to Sean in Sacramento. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Uncle's from another mother.
Men too long, y'are how y'all doing? I know where
you saying? Man, you know you know y'all the highest
show on a network. Man, It's hard to get in
on these lines, man, So I feel blessing even that
made it through. How blessed Rob for putting me through
too for the take? Are you? Are you one of
(19:47):
those million people downloading the podcast or you get to
listen to the show. Oh? Now, only about one of
the million people down on the podcast. I listened to
the show, and I advertised, y'all to anybody that gotta
give me the year I got about four of my
boys got does switch from the other network radio shows
to y'all. So y'all know Fox Sports Radio number one
on all of our hearts. Baby, my man, we appreciate that, brother,
(20:09):
appreciate that. Yeah, But real quick, man, my take is,
I don't feel like it is a black athlete's responsibility
to go out there and try to make some kind
of political state and all the time. But once they do,
I'm talking about you, Lebron, I'm talking about ju Colin Kaepernick.
You gotta continue to raise your voice and continue to
keep that going. God bless you, because there's nothing worse
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and getting out there and speaking one day and then
all of a sudden being silent to where we don't
even know what's going on in your head. Or once
we challenge you with something like Hong kong Lebron all
of a sudden doesn't want to speak about it anymore
and take Nike sight on everything. You gotta be consistent
and even bigger than that, it's every one of our
responsibilities to get out there and vote. It's great to
have a voice, but if you're not getting out there
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and impacting the way our political environment is actually shaping
up to be, then you're doing absolutely nothing. So I
appreciate y'all continue to do with what y'all doing on
the radio and hopefully influences all our brothers and assistants
in November to get out there and make the right choice.
Thanks Sean. All right, ma man, appreciate that eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox is the number, and yeah,
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we got we can squeeze one more. Chris, let's do
Andre in Massachusetts. You're in the eye couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Andre? How are you guys doing?
Thanks for taking my call. Got to agree with Sean.
I don't think it's African American athletes responsibility to take
the lead on political issues. I feel the responsibility to
partner with the existing African American professional and progressive community.
(21:34):
What do I mean there's more African American cardiologists two
times than in our basketball players. There's more brain surgeons. Okay,
there's ten times more. Excuse me, it's one hundred percent
times more African American lawyers and physicians than there are athletes.
So this idea that we have to put all the
eggs in the basket of the professional athlete to push
(21:54):
our causes that have been we've been advocating for for
hundreds of years, I think is misplaced. I think that
to Chris's point about these being the most notable, the
most popular, and defect their celebrity, that they have that influence,
but they need to partner with the already existing community
for that for their influence to have lasting change, you know,
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instead of them doing the entire programming and messaging on
their own. I think that's at frankly misplaced. That's a
good call, Andre, because I agree. I do think our
athletes should partner with educators, with entrepreneurs, with lawyers, with economists,
because yeah, a few athletes are really well versed on
(22:37):
this stuff, but most of them are, and that's fine.
Most American citizens aren't well versed on this type of stuff,
but they're speaking on powerful issues, and so I would
like them to partner with people that are experts in
some of these situations. And I get that, but still ability,
it's about a platform and being able to and unfortunately
(23:02):
the people they listen to. Chris, you could have a
group of cardiologists band together, and I doubt they get
the stage. Do you know what I mean? Right, They're
not gonna They can do work in their field and
in their office, you know, and in their town. But yeah,
they don't have the national or international platform. But that's
(23:25):
why they have. They may have the expertise and they
can partner with those that do have the platform. I say,
athletes sound the alarm and then you bring in the
experts to really show you how to turn it into
real change. All Right, the Bucks are making a rally
seventy eight. All now, Rob left when everybody was ready
to bury them in the first quarter or whatever. I
(23:47):
just I'll tell you I'm not back. You can't do that.
It's a long game. The Bucks haven't gotten here by accident,
That's all I'm gonna say. All Right, let's hear from
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the Odd Couple. NBA Champion Eddie House, what's up man?
What's going on? Andy? What that mean is I'm y'all Pottinger,
That's what that means. That's right, that's right. And Eddie,
we were just having a discussion based on what Lou.
I don't know if you saw Lou Williams comments when
he talked about how overwhelming it's been for the athletes
(24:53):
to you know, be in the bubble, dealing with COVID,
playing you know, in front of no fans all the
way from their family, and then dealing with the social issues.
He caught it overwhelming, and we're talking about it's unfortunate
We long for the day when when African American athletes,
particularly the superstars, don't have to speak out on these issues,
(25:15):
because that'll mean we've arrived. Then those issues aren't you know,
specific to us anymore. But do you feel like you
know that our athletes, we do need them to speak
out because of the plight of African American people. I
think so. I think because it's not for us, the
old heads, the ogs, it's really for the youngsters, for
(25:39):
the younger, younger ones, the younger generation coming up to
hear what because they're athletes, musicians, actors, people, entertainment are
most of the time the people that youngsters look up to,
you know, and admire and want to us try to
be like you know, we be like Mike. So when
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a guy comes out and it's a great opportunity in
the stage for them to set the president and also
bring awareness to things that are going on, for these
junctions to understand what's really going on and what they're
up against. So I think it's it's a great I
think it's it's definitely a responsibility that some of us
have as athletes to make sure that the message that
we're sending is the right message, and for Lou Williams
(26:22):
to say what he says, I mean, you know, if
people want to really listen to what he's saying, we
have to take a step back and look at what's
really going on and what we've asked them to do
to go into this bubble to put on entertainment for us,
you know. And I think that's the respect that you
know a lot of times that gets lost. You think that,
(26:43):
hey man, they just athletes. They just go out there
and play. No, people have families, people have other things
going on. People are actually have you know, issues beyond
you know, not only the social issues that's going on,
but they also have you know, personal issues are going
We talk about what Paul George was going through, you know,
with depression and things like that, and even Kevin loved
(27:03):
the same thing. So I think what Lou Williams did
was just highlighted exactly what a lot of athletes have
been saying that hey man, and especially with Lebron said,
we're more than the athletes, man, you know, you know,
take a look at us what we really are, and
we're just human beings. We're out here, we are entertaining
at the same time, you know, respect what's going on
and how we're doing it. For you guys, what do
(27:25):
you make of Utah up three to one in that
series and they wound up choking it down and not
being able to beat Denver. I agree with Chris Denver's
probably the better is the better team on paper, but
they should have won that series. What happened there, Yeah,
I wouldn't say they choked down. Um. I think that
(27:45):
that was one of those series that we figured it
should go seven games. Both of them was evenly matched.
I think Mike Conley didn't didn't didn't show up. You
hate to say that. As good as he's he's been
in the past, and he's been in big games and
solid of a point guard is I think at times,
and even yesterday, you could see it. He got the
ball in a certain situations. It looked like he wanted
(28:05):
to get the ball out of his hands, and those
are I think when you have a point guard that
can make play not only for himself before others, you
need to have a guy that wants to be in
that situation and not looking for somebody else and defer
and at that particular time also, I think uh uh,
Bob Donovich I think not having him was a big
h you know, a piece of what they what they
(28:26):
could do. The Yeah, so I think, you know, missing
him was huge for them, but you know, no excuses
and and at the end of the day, you got
to give all praises to UH Denver and what they did,
and Jamal Murray out there the way he played, um
yokis the way he played, and Gary Harris on Donovan
Mitchell late in the game, his defensive effort, his being
(28:49):
a pest and making everything hard for Donovan Mitchell. You
got to give credit to the Denver Denver Nuggets, Eddie
whose legacy is most on the line tonight, James Harden,
Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul who Foo foo Chris and I
(29:09):
h that go ahead. I was just gonna say, I
don't want to say who we said, but we we
we each had somebody different. So I'm just curious to
where you fit in with those three guys. I think
at this point, I really I would think that I
don't think neither none of those three guys. I think
they can come back. You know, whose legacy I think
is more on the line, as is Mike D'Antoni. Um.
(29:32):
I think his coaching ability, the way he coaches. Um,
you gotta look at the last couple of possessions of
that game with Houston. You gotta Russell Westbrook, who has
he played defense, you know, but not to up to
his level. Hasn't played you know what I mean, He's
been on the sideline. You do not put the ball
in a guy like that hand, as much as you
would want to for those possessions, especially when a guy
(29:54):
you have, somebody like James Harden, who can make plays,
who can score, who is probably the best one on
one player in the league right now, Why would you
not have the ball in his hands every possession going
down the stretch, especially like under a minute. You know,
if you get an opportunity to get the ball should
be in his hands. And I think that's whose legacy
is on the line more than those players, because those
(30:16):
players still have an opportunity to write the rest of
their legacy. They could either one of the either one
of those players that you name could lose, right and
they can still have an opportunity next year to come back.
Mike D'Antoni might not have that opportunity with his contract
being up. Somebody might take the risk or not say
take the risk, but somebody else might go on and
hire him, but he will not have those superstars that
(30:38):
he has in Houston and the opportunity to do something
special like he does right now. A lot about quickly.
So who the guys you got? I want to know
who you got? Said Harden. I said Paul, only from
the standpoint that he was dumbed. And we've seen this
movie before where he has these great game sixes and
then uh, you know, is h m I in this
(31:01):
Game seven? And if he would able to win this
and he would just have something to gain, people would
have to look at him a little different because he
was the one that was dumped and they thought they
didn't need him anymore. That's why I thought it would see.
I think CB three's legacy is set all time great
point guard, right, but we know he's not leading the
team to a championship. I mean he's just not at
(31:23):
this stage of his career. He had some great teammates
and with the Clippers and it just not gonna happen.
And I don't think just getting to the second round
is gonna change that. Now, it'll Rob's right, I mean,
people would be like, Wow, it's a great story, you know,
but we'll forget about this overall. And you know, his
legacy has said. I think Russ is set too. I
(31:44):
just Eddie, and I love Russ. I think he's gonna
be iconic in history for those three straight triple double seasons.
But I don't think you he's can lead the team
to a championship the way he plays. So I think
the only I don't really think Harden can either. I
think he's gonna have to. He can be the number
one guy. But when one guy does so much, I
(32:05):
just think it's hard to win the championship. And but
he's still got more time than the other two, I think,
And so you know, we've seen him struggle a little
bit at times in the playoffs. So that's why I
went with Harden. But uh, Dan Tony, you're right, Dan
Tony's you know, he gotta put up a shut up two,
that's for sure. So all right, Eddie, great stuff is
(32:27):
always Mannie. Did you real real quick? We got fifteen seconds.
Tom sever just passed seventy five years old. Did you
like Tom Sever as a pitch you when you're a kid. Yeah,
I wasn't a kid man. What do you. But I
wasn't a I was so young. I'm not your age. Rob.
I'm sorry you're a little older than me. You know
what I'm saying. I was still having still had mickey
(32:47):
in my mouth at that time. I always you're so
much sure. I always think of time. I always think
of you as older than you are. How old are you?
Forty two? Oh? You're young? Yeah, I mean you not
in the same He knows the leg I know he does.
He knows baseball bad. Yeah, don't feel bad. I'm not
(33:09):
in Rob's generation whatever. I mean whatever, that's a whole
generation man. All Right, Daddy will appreciate brother. All y'all
be cool. All right, Shop Talk is next. Keep it
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(33:30):
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is shop talk. The Akapa Fox Sports Raider the segment
where we discussed something that happen outside of the world
of sports, and this week's topic is not a fun one,
(34:13):
but it is when we got to do rest in
peace to the late great Chadwick Bowsman who passed away
over the weekend at the very young age. I believe
it was forty three, and so prayers out to his
friends and family. He passed away of colon cancer. But
it got us thinking, guys, he's a tremendous talent, and
(34:33):
we wanted to know what was your favorite either role
or movie from Chadwick Boseman during his brief career. It
was forty two, and I know he's done other other
roles and everybody critically acclaimed and money as far as
The Black Panther and I saw that and I loved
that movie. And he's done so many different things. He's
(34:56):
such a great actor. He was but he was Jackie Robins.
He became Jackie rob I loved that story. It was
hard to watch some of the scenes, but I loved it.
I absolutely loved it. Um, he's a tremendous He was
a tremendous actor. He was. I just he played, like
(35:17):
you said, Jackie Robinson, The Panther, he played third Good Marshall.
Another one, James James Brown. So look, the most iconic
movies he was in were forty two and Black Panther
and probably the most I would say, the most important
ones he was in as well, and I loved all
of them, but I feel like my favorite one of
(35:39):
those movies was Get On Up. And I think maybe
I just wanted to see the James Brown story, you know.
I mean I know about James Brown and the guy
father soul and my parents, my father, my parents were
such big fans. He's the guyfather hip hop too, because
they say him put the heck out of him. They
(36:01):
just took his whole, his whole. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
But I really was into that story. So for me
right now, I feel like just that was the story
that comes to my mind. But obviously Black Panther, I
mean that inspired so many people. In forty two, he
(36:23):
was great, though it was really sad. What about you, Robi, Well,
like you said, he was incredible talent, gone way too
soon as I think this gets three years oldless this
gets lost in the story is that he was diagnosed
in twenty sixteen and still filmed movies while doing surgeries
and chemo. I mean, that guy was a real life
superhero for real and at the end you saw them
(36:47):
at the end. Then he was gone and he never
even still then didn't say it. No, no, it's the
same thing that took my friend in Detroit, my uh
former colleague at w DF and Detroit, Jamie Samuelson. He
had colon cancer forty eight years old. He died. So
it's it's what's what kind of cancer did Stewart Scott?
(37:08):
Have you remember? I don't think it was colon cancer,
it was it was some form of cancer. But he
had killed though he didn't make it, he kept Stewart
was doing Mma and I mean he really went all
out to enjoy, you know, I asked, I was saying
life did yeah the movie? Did you like? Well? Chris
(37:30):
stole my thunder a little bit. I am a huge
James Brown fan, and Get On Up was awesome. I
loved seeing um Chadwick Boseman play James Brown. I mean,
it's just devastating. Guys, I mean he was just getting started.
I know he was already the star, but his start
could have right, No, he start could have been brighter though.
He could have been like he probably would have been
the Denzel Washington. Right, So did you say just shut out?
(37:52):
He was gonna be the kind of tree and already
had those big movies already. I mean he had many
years to make movies. Yeah. Right, And one thing I
did want to say, guys, now we all agree he's
an incredible talent and a great dramatic actor. He has
a lot of Christmas on screen. We saw that in
Black Panther. I don't know if you guys have ever
seen this, but his Saturday Night Live performance that he
(38:14):
did when he hosted that one night, it brought out
a different side of him he don't really see in
a lot of his movies, and how funny he was.
And so to me, that was something that was always
my favorite. I'd love to see people get out of
the zone. Right. I didn't see that, right, did you
see it? Rob? No? But I love saying you got
to watch it. I mean, because he was really funny.
(38:35):
Check out the Jeopardy segment, the one that they did.
It was one of the funniest was it black Jeopardy?
Is that No, it was a regular Jeopardy, but he
was he was playing a king to Challa on Jeopardy,
and so it was. It was hilarious. Right, did I
see that? You gotta watch it? Okay, I'm gonna have
to definitely check that out. Yeah, we lost a great one.
There's no if Sam's butts about it, and that's that's it.
(38:59):
We were saying that too much in twenty twenty. Do
you know what I just tweeted? Lost another legend? Damn you.
Twenty twenty, we have lost so many people. This is
young and my my right mind, Booby Chad, we've both
been young. Just ye, mind boggling. Yep. All right, we
got two hours left the I couple, you know what
to do. I'm sorry, one hour left, keep it locked.
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